Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:01:05 +1100 From: alex <alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 Message-ID: <4B6F4631.6050501@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> In-Reply-To: <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk>
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Frank Shute wrote: > On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:41:29AM +1100, alex wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop >> for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 >> setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. >> > > So you had a machine that had run non-stop for 3 years yet you replace > the OS. Clever. > > Yes I replaced the OS. Because the box was to also be a PBX (running asterisk, instead of just being a file server/web server for running local web apps). I was continually getting coredumps with asterisk. After filing numerous bug reports and hitting dead ends with the asterisk devs, I had enough, because none of them knew how to debug the problem under freebsd, I got fed up and moved the box over to linux, and to my surprise, no more core dumps. > >> I see a number of factors putting freebsd behind: >> >> * The teams stubbornness with compiler/base tools (wont move away from >> gcc 4.2.1 because they just cant accept the GPL2) >> > > They don't like the license, that's not stubbornness. > > Wow thats a good reason to use ancient compilers and assemblers. >> * The teams stubbornness with the base system binutils (which cause >> mplayer and other multimedia applications not to build, unless a newer >> version is installed) >> > > Nonsense. > > You dont see having a set of binutils thats not SSE3 or SSE4 capable as a problem? It's nonsense? >> Using such an old compiler must have a performance impact on the OS. I >> say this because compilers improve over time, they generate better, >> tighter, more optimized code. The binutils shipped with freebsd is more >> than 5 years old now. >> > > A codes age has nothing to do with it's performance. > > Clearly you know nothing about how compilers generate and optimize code. If this isnt a problem, why would new versions of gcc and binutils continue to surface. Well I can see three obvious reasons, improved code generation, bug fixes, new features. >> It's not just my personal test that has shown that linux is ahead in >> numerous areas (performance wise), but the recent phoronix benchmarks >> that were released when FreeBSD 8 came out, were pretty damning. >> > > Link please. > > Sure, no problem, enjoy: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_benchmarks&num=1 Go on, I am waiting for you to poke holes and attempt to totally invalidate those benchmarks too. >> I'd like to see what the FreeBSD team has to say on this. >> >> Alex >> > > Despite your FreeBSD T-shirt ownage, your post is a troll. > > Nobody's interested in your bogus benchmarks & opinions on matters > that you are not knowledgeable of. > > > Regards, > > I guess you cant see the difference between a troll and a complaint. I have been using freebsd since the 4.x days. It seems you have quite a chip on your shoulder, frank. Alex.
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