From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Thu Jul 16 23:56:05 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A593712BC; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 23:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-f172.google.com (mail-oi1-f172.google.com [209.85.167.172]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B7B3S6d2nz4Gcb; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 23:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-f172.google.com with SMTP id j11so6540705oiw.12; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 16:56:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KRBjTTjrAx0FmhFK/BgUMrQDrGtGxt2J3gZgJQufGE8=; b=QjEd19PHiZoLV5/TR6Jj+zaCBIW+JhGul+zP+SerHcJo5HjqKaQoyE4g+Rg9uLE3/m lA1KAsxXRjkS0w86U6YHcCbAyelj9eHQggQG61TF4nX+wB1wn0GpMcvRGjq3Y7UG2Pf5 qNxrVKdiafUQLMuVSFOvfzXB39BWG/ydNRHPp4AVl+q1pxMoiXyNIOaVoY/TPaLGot0R zK/reuBP0B+E6bkGsq8W2MITOROiDxkf0YGiFmCULFM4atRg5TRWngQOAQKU7vv69DYD KubqiALTFQYO4J8H6AshR6pjF0OEW1/8VCR+o07pvUZ9m1FYHuLZWs6gMExJCWnXqfag UhhA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5314ogs/N3ZPfg/E8JoJOkFoIZY20u9VBJjVGYIQeK1GOc+sqx8x fRhgNv9r3M4uKhxLJIqr/OE3t9m3MHaRBvORa+k= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzTudxEiGiSSfaDfZdBj8lepMMVqOCyZKwUzGSZ6QcdE7svj40O2yaKjK9jVnURZclkWMucw59MylAmACG9xUc= X-Received: by 2002:aca:59d7:: with SMTP id n206mr5663419oib.73.1594943763600; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 16:56:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <140a6398-f8ad-ecd6-2a6f-5ca28f570a64@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Alan Somers Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:55:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: URGENT: Microsoft overwrites boot loader! To: Don Wilde Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , FreeBSD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B7B3S6d2nz4Gcb X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of asomers@gmail.com designates 209.85.167.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=asomers@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.58)[-0.584]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.61)[-0.609]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.24)[-0.237]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.167.172:from]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.167.172:from]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 23:56:05 -0000 On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:47 PM Don Wilde wrote: > > On 7/16/20 1:28 PM, Alan Somers wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:20 PM Don Wilde wrote: > >> The [deleted] ones in Redmond have done it again. My multi-OS GRUB2 boot >> loader is gone, and in its place is a 500M partition called 'Windows >> boot loader'. >> >> The purpose is to force us to look at MS' new version of Edge. All my >> old boot files are gone. >> >> It's taken me much of the morning to get underneath this, since on this >> unit my only OS (other than Doze 10) with a WM and GUI is Ubuntu. >> >> That's the last time I will allow this, and I'm calling those [deleted]s >> tomorrow to give them a piece of my mind. After that I will erase every >> vestige of that obscene OS from my disk. >> >> -- >> Don Wilde >> **************************************************** >> * What is the Internet of Things but a system * >> * of systems including humans? * >> **************************************************** >> > > Edge? I thought that was a browser. What does it have to do with boot > loaders? > -Alan > > It is. They over-wrote my boot loader with a special package touting their > upgrade and its features. > > AUTOEXEC.bat is no longer sufficient for them! > > The only way to get out of it was to reboot to a different disk. By > installing a new copy of Ubuntu from DVD on a portion of that drive, I was > able to get to the rest of my disk through its GRUB2 (which had been > trashed by MS). > > I sent a really pointed message to MS "Senior Technical Advisors" but > nobody (of more than a dozen who were on-line and saw it) responded. I hope > nobody commits seppuku, but I'll bet there will be some resignations. > > MS Windows is the toxic RoundUp of the software world, and 10 is the most > egregious one yet. > Are you saying that they overwrite the bootloader in order to display some kind of popup add before the main OS loads? That makes no sense whatsoever. It is the crazy ravings of a madman. Except, I know Don to be reliable. There's definitely a madman involved with this story somehow, but I don't think it's Don. -Alan