From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 00:18:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDBA16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC6613C471 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from c-68-49-149-185.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([68.49.149.185] helo=schnarff.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HQBlP-0001cr-6v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:18:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 28948 invoked by uid 67); 11 Mar 2007 00:18:14 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.68 ([192.168.2.68]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:18:14 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 68.49.149.185 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: schnarff Message-ID: <20070310191814.l15cskkoqsgsosks@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:18:14 -0500 From: alex@schnarff.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> In-Reply-To: <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:18:16 -0000 Quoting Beech Rintoul : > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Disposition: inline > > On Saturday 10 March 2007 12:52, Wojciech Puchar said: >> can it be set to make possible to login root to machine through >> telnet and without telneting to some user and then su - >> ? >> >> with sshd and rshd it can be set, with telnetd - no success. > > That is a REALLY BAD idea. Why don't you just publish your address and > set the root password to nothing. It's only going to take a cracker a > couple of minutes or less to own your server once they find you (and > they will). In fact, it's such a bad idea that there's a Snort rule for it (and a really old one at that): alert tcp $TELNET_SERVERS 23 -> $EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:"TELNET root login"; flow :from_server,established; content:"login|3A| root"; classtype:suspicious-login; sid:719; rev:7;) Of course, if you really want to do this, I agree with everyone else -- just put your IP on this list, and we'll help you right on out. :-) Alex Kirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 00:18:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5048816A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED9213C471 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [216.218.220.25] (216-218-220-25.argonblue.net [216.218.220.25] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l2B0IRjK077732 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:18:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45F34AD0.5040904@enabled.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:18:24 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Ragona References: <45F3422D.4030005@enabled.com> <45F34336.1040400@enabled.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20070310175332.0254ecc8@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20070310175332.0254ecc8@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: installing 6.2 from external USB DVD-ROM drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:18:30 -0000 how do I identify the filesystem and/or device that the cdrom is considered? Cheers, Noah Derek Ragona wrote: > If you boot then exit sysinstall to a prompt, try to mount the external > drive. If you can mount it, then rerun sysinstall and choose to install > from a mounted file system instead. > > -Derek > > At 05:45 PM 3/10/2007, Noah wrote: >> More details: >> >> I am able to boot and get to the installation utility but when I go to >> "choose installation media" and choose "CD/DVD" the response is "No >> CD/DVD devices found!" >> >> what can I do about this? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Noah >> >> >> Noah wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> is there a way to install FreeBSD from an external USB DVD-ROM drive? >>> I am at a loss of how to do it. >>> Cheers, >>> Noah >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. >> > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for > their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 00:19:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC00916A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9409713C4A3 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from [216.218.220.25] (216-218-220-25.argonblue.net [216.218.220.25] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l2B0JNX1077751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:19:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <45F34B08.9040406@enabled.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:19:20 -0800 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Ragona References: <45F3422D.4030005@enabled.com> <45F34336.1040400@enabled.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20070310175332.0254ecc8@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20070310175332.0254ecc8@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: installing 6.2 from external USB DVD-ROM drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:19:25 -0000 if I attempt to exit sysinstall then it says the only other option is to reboot. Derek Ragona wrote: > If you boot then exit sysinstall to a prompt, try to mount the external > drive. If you can mount it, then rerun sysinstall and choose to install > from a mounted file system instead. > > -Derek > > At 05:45 PM 3/10/2007, Noah wrote: >> More details: >> >> I am able to boot and get to the installation utility but when I go to >> "choose installation media" and choose "CD/DVD" the response is "No >> CD/DVD devices found!" >> >> what can I do about this? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Noah >> >> >> Noah wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> is there a way to install FreeBSD from an external USB DVD-ROM drive? >>> I am at a loss of how to do it. >>> Cheers, >>> Noah >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. >> > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for > their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 01:12:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FBD16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon-bsd@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39C113C442 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon-bsd@comcast.net) Received: from [24.3.82.205] (c-24-3-82-205.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.82.205]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20070311011206m1400fqc07e>; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:12:06 +0000 Message-ID: <45F35767.7040905@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:12:07 -0500 From: Jon Wolfgang User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6660f1280703101251w1fac7df7xc1d0eb23b22dafc9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6660f1280703101251w1fac7df7xc1d0eb23b22dafc9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: searching archives broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:12:06 -0000 Ed Zwart wrote: > Hi there, I'm new to the list, and have been trying to search the > archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/. No > matter what I search for, I get no results (even one-word searches > that should definitely have hits; eg, 'mail', 'hostname', etc). > > I want to search the archives before asking the group, but the archive > is way too large to make browsing feasible. Is search broken, or am I > missing something? > > e. I have noticed this too. The "fix" I found is changing the search field from "all" to "recent". For example, if I search for "mount", and search all, nothing is displayed. However, searching for "mount" with recent selected, returns results. I think it has to do with how many results it finds. Hope this helps, Jon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 01:39:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A179A16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDD013C494 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2B1a4dq042186; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:36:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2B1a45G042185; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:36:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:36:04 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Roofscum614@aol.com Message-ID: <20070311013604.GA42165@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:39:10 -0000 On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 09:36:14PM -0500, Roofscum614@aol.com wrote: > hi i am doing a project for school: > > find an alternative operating system - one that will run my computer > without Windows being installed. The cheaper the better (Hint start your > search with the word "free"). Find out what the software does, what > applications it supports (e.g., will it run Microsoft Office), how much it > costs. You have found a good one. You need to go to the FreeBSD web site www.freebsd.org and do a lot of reading, both the handbook and the FAQ as well as other sites that are pointed to. FreeBSD is indeen free to download and use. You would need to burn your own installation CD (disk1). Optionally, there are a couple of companies who make up a package of pre-burned CDs and a printed handbook and sell them for a nominal price - and most donate a small part of that to the FreeBSD foundation.. FreeBSD has more than 10,000 software utilities that have been ported to run on it. Check our ports on the FreeBSD web site. It does not run Microsoft software directly, but many of those ports are worthy substitutes for the MSU software. For example, there is a package called 'Openoffice' that does most of the stuff MS Office can do. It's word processor is called swriter and can read and/or create files in MS-Word format as well as some others. It has a spread sheet, and presentation (power point) utility, etc. There are even desktop oriented window managers such as KDe if you must have all the pointy-clicky stuff (prefer a command line interface for most thing so don't bother with KDE). But, you must know that even though you can get a lot of questions answered here, you must do the work yourself. FreeBSD is not oriented toward preventing you from learning things and managing your own machine like some Northwest USA companies seem to want to do. That takes some effort, but results in a more powerful environment once you get things under control. So, download the ISO, burn it and install it and start esperimenting and learning and doing some actual computer work. ////jerry > > > does your OS relate to this project? any help would be appreciated. > > thank you > tom gunderman >


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Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 01:51:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1EA16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF8B13C49D for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2B1m6RK042261; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:48:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2B1m6IR042260; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:48:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:48:06 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Dima Sorkin Message-ID: <20070311014806.GA42241@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh login as root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:51:11 -0000 On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 05:55:54PM +0200, Dima Sorkin wrote: > Hi. > It _seems_ that FreeBSD does not allow root to login remotely via ssh. > I can miss something, but if I right, how > do I allow it ? You can change the config file to allow it, but that is considered poor security. The thing to do is to create a non-root account to log in to and add that id to the wheel group in /etc/group file. Then log in as that user and su to root only for those things that need root. ////jerry > > Thanks and regards, > Dima. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 01:54:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C159B16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A3613C49D for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2B1p01Q042282; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:51:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2B1p0GR042281; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:51:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:51:00 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Dima Sorkin Message-ID: <20070311015100.GB42241@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <3FCB18F9-CBF6-4D14-AD0F-92658914454E@rottnic.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh login as root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:54:05 -0000 On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 06:43:43PM +0200, Dima Sorkin wrote: > Hi. > Actually I would prefer to do it via "su". > Here a really newbie question: > 1) How do I join regular user to 'wheel' group ? > 2) How do I join a user to some group 'some_group' ?. > Which manpage to read ? Just edit the /etc/group file - using vi probably or any other text editor. On the line that establishes the wheel group, just add the user id on the end separated with a comma. eg. add ',otherid' to the end of the line. Save (write) and quit. It is now there. ////jerry > > Thanks, > Dima. > > On 3/10/07, Guido Demmenie wrote: > > >Default setting is that root can not login via ssh (and that's how > >you want it). > >You can use su(1) to gain root privileges when loged in on your box > >with a normal > >user if needed (if you are in the group wheel). > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 02:15:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C85116A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 02:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BE413C461 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 02:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2B2Ef7F048871; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:14:41 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070310201143.0251d000@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:14:28 -0600 To: Noah From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <45F34B08.9040406@enabled.com> References: <45F3422D.4030005@enabled.com> <45F34336.1040400@enabled.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20070310175332.0254ecc8@mail.computinginnovations.com> <45F34B08.9040406@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: installing 6.2 from external USB DVD-ROM drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 02:15:16 -0000 Usually it is: /dev/cd0 /dev/cd1 etc, depends on how many optical drives you have. In sysinstall, you can go to the index of functions and from there execute the start an emergency shell. That will start the emergency shell so you can do the manual mount on the other virtual terminal without leaving sysinstall. -Derek At 06:19 PM 3/10/2007, Noah wrote: >if I attempt to exit sysinstall then it says the only other option is to >reboot. > > >Derek Ragona wrote: >>If you boot then exit sysinstall to a prompt, try to mount the external >>drive. If you can mount it, then rerun sysinstall and choose to install >>from a mounted file system instead. >> -Derek >>At 05:45 PM 3/10/2007, Noah wrote: >>>More details: >>> >>>I am able to boot and get to the installation utility but when I go to >>>"choose installation media" and choose "CD/DVD" the response is "No >>>CD/DVD devices found!" >>> >>>what can I do about this? >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>>Noah >>> >>> >>>Noah wrote: >>>>Hi there, >>>>is there a way to install FreeBSD from an external USB DVD-ROM drive? >>>>I am at a loss of how to do it. >>>>Cheers, >>>>Noah >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>>-- >>>This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>believed to be clean. >>>MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. >>-- This message has been scanned for viruses and >>dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is >>believed to be clean. >>MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for >>their support. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 02:21:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0168716A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 02:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed.zwart@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4C313C442 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 02:21:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed.zwart@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1450275nfc for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:21:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EvpPY4+pEYHjgtZ8A7PP+FZKw0GRC219VoMr7ivi0dZHjEocvnPmAMCrx6SExI+Vyx+T/9llnVRuw36+lAjCjidmMnui9WTgFQ2Fy4aEyWrVEmZXBB8fhhi2Da5X5nbNbiBRiI4hgRjZNsFvKLyWyjVsbtRnzsrSP+Uq/MVtArk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QbLG0M73edYMXj30wh5/cByOH9heomkA+Zp676Ptt+kQ8VmBl23mPwufOsNYrFI5m4fZpSgqaR2m+TFNcVeyamIzFi0WBCvHbPswOt/Zd/njqbkTybVQdOYyfpRbBdjLHy/b8SK2fIMC9UCSi/1eNdK2GhGdIlzHZI5eXgS1+e8= Received: by 10.82.163.13 with SMTP id l13mr5803058bue.1173579692387; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.185.13 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:21:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6660f1280703101821s4390d297ga416edb9d6a03fa4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:21:32 -0800 From: "Ed Zwart" To: "Jon Wolfgang" In-Reply-To: <45F35767.7040905@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6660f1280703101251w1fac7df7xc1d0eb23b22dafc9@mail.gmail.com> <45F35767.7040905@comcast.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: searching archives broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 02:21:34 -0000 Jon, where are you searching from? The link I gave in my initial question does not have the 'recent' limiter you mentioned. thanks e. On 3/10/07, Jon Wolfgang wrote: > Ed Zwart wrote: > > Hi there, I'm new to the list, and have been trying to search the > > archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/. No > > matter what I search for, I get no results (even one-word searches > > that should definitely have hits; eg, 'mail', 'hostname', etc). > > > > I want to search the archives before asking the group, but the archive > > is way too large to make browsing feasible. Is search broken, or am I > > missing something? > > > > e. > I have noticed this too. The "fix" I found is changing the search field > from "all" to "recent". For example, if I search for "mount", and > search all, nothing is displayed. However, searching for "mount" with > recent selected, returns results. I think it has to do with how many > results it finds. Hope this helps, > Jon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 04:33:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060E016A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from susanthoffline@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B949913C428 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from susanthoffline@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so1806378wri for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:33:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=oF+riK3TlVwT1hJxTQBQyUNMJkUJbrtIyYsoNKhUxiMMDUzzbAfBPeDGtH9l9GsUq1B6B+Zw8g+lh4YyA64z+kiy5vRoHX5ODFfirWmAD1MvQOBqXYe/ToOdInEoxBwuQlhzIMc65EjJ1Va4TCEBaqVZU+TqCBPBFGtMxqrXE1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=GKI4eyDJiHxb0ZjnHWU68W+xoxSlcYyoG6+aBM//JRCOcX/ZI+FIQaJcWSnP4mrHxN4f5dQ7cUwnp7iaTed8K968tTeQlPFNhj6dYidl+hRkPsG4Aq3duOf9W+ovVtAmkDQT2P3LyJfrvYKN4VoylM7+PC92npauAxVIav6s4os= Received: by 10.90.100.2 with SMTP id x2mr1844575agb.1173587619010; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.97.17 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:33:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:03:38 +0530 From: "Susanth K" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: The Best OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:33:40 -0000 Dear Friends, Am a beginner to *BSD OS. Am interested in setting up intel / AMD based Free and Open Source Server ( No GUI required ) Prime area is Webserver With PHP/MySQL Support and Ruby On Rails. + PostgreSQL Which os Will be the BEST ? A) Debian Linux B) OpenBSD C) FreeBSD Which project has good Support and Active Development ? Please help me to choose THANKS IN ADVANCE SUSANTH K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 04:37:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0231A16A404 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr7.networksolutionsemail.com (omr7.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E5013C48E for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr7.mgt.hosting.dc2.netsol.com [10.49.6.70]) by omr7.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l2B4bkom029271 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:37:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 1203 invoked by uid 78); 11 Mar 2007 04:37:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.15.200?) (racerx@makeworld.com@71.113.184.254) by ns-omr7.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2007 04:37:46 -0000 Message-ID: <45F38795.1020001@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:37:41 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Susanth K References: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 OpenPGP: id=C01BC363 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Best OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:37:50 -0000 Susanth K wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Am a beginner to *BSD OS. > > Am interested in setting up intel / AMD based Free and Open Source Server ( > No GUI required ) > > Prime area is Webserver With PHP/MySQL Support and Ruby On Rails. + > PostgreSQL > > Which os Will be the BEST ? > > A) Debian Linux > B) OpenBSD > C) FreeBSD D) The one you prefer... Let's not have this war... Ok? The best OS is the one that works for YOU.... -- Best regards, Chris Subject to change without notice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 04:58:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C83D16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F0B13C471 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from [192.168.1.29] (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FBB5C1F; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:58:48 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <45F38C87.80901@hdk5.net> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:58:47 -1000 From: NetOps Center User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Susanth K References: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Best OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:58:49 -0000 Susanth K wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Am a beginner to *BSD OS. > > Am interested in setting up intel / AMD based Free and Open Source Server ( > No GUI required ) > > Prime area is Webserver With PHP/MySQL Support and Ruby On Rails. + > PostgreSQL > > Which os Will be the BEST ? > > A) Debian Linux > B) OpenBSD > C) FreeBSD > > Which project has good Support and Active Development ? > > Please help me to choose > > THANKS IN ADVANCE > > > SUSANTH K > _______________________________________________ I have used FreeBSD since version 3.* in the 1990's. I have used Linux but I still use FreeBSD (version 6* and 7*) on servers and some desktops. It is rock solid. If you learn it, and like it use it by all means. The support from the world wide mailing list of users is the best. > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii > 808-284-2740 > + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + > + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 05:07:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59F016A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE1E13C48D for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so1728561ugh for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:07:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jwAZQOoG5OlXqwfO3M0os6nx3g6NsBNYxH6LVkiIh9dtCwCfJXm8BZBiQB5oHU/QXFqtboTyBNF5raseFdTAGDaSH+a/DeOB8eYB5HGOvMDjEG4dzm5NsmTDBVt7401sxpOFv8ofHDz9VwoaujtR2gZ4G+ZOezSbdH51Jf6g76w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=M4yV2yyZQhkNPr/vcwfYo4GhZk5ox+e71iE7JKtr7fhFDT9BDZAKfZVwlHTGiR4OAFrsieJ91DHAxVEi0jg6IFO0ihSoy+UuqPgKB7dTzF6FsrWc3WlAl21+CzK+GJwjB9eG09cMAhYqmDqWqK3Kf6ITw8kzduoYS7tMA6IiQho= Received: by 10.114.137.2 with SMTP id k2mr695026wad.1173589667879; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.148.18 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:07:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <499c70c0703102107v23120c3fu1584a8c7ea43fb2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:07:47 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: "Susanth K" In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703101006k78f29333s168cf93d9451d465@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6faf55220703101006k78f29333s168cf93d9451d465@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The MySQL Low Performance in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:07:50 -0000 On 3/10/07, Susanth K wrote: > Hai Every One, > > Do The Low Performance of MySQL on FreeBSD Still Exists ? ( in FreeBSD6.2 ) > > Please HELP > > SUSANTH K since FreeBSD 6.0 and using libthr instead of linuxthread, there is no low performance issues. Make sure you'll use MySQL 5.0.x from the ports instead of MySQL 4.x -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 05:10:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D03316A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC9213C47E for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 31A02508E0; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:10:03 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070311051003.31A02508E0@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:10:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2007-02-18 - 2007-03-10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:10:04 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 8-Mar : Jails under FreeBSD 6 Jails are great. Here's my recipie http://freebsddiary.org/jail-6.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 05:53:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004FE16A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD5313C471 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HQGzL-0008Q7-DT; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:52:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:52:57 -0700 To: Susanth K X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Best OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:53:00 -0000 On Mar 10, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Susanth K wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Am a beginner to *BSD OS. > > Am interested in setting up intel / AMD based Free and Open Source > Server ( > No GUI required ) > > Prime area is Webserver With PHP/MySQL Support and Ruby On Rails. + > PostgreSQL > > Which os Will be the BEST ? > > A) Debian Linux > B) OpenBSD > C) FreeBSD For what you are doing, any of them would work. All are well supported and have active development. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 06:48:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BDE16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DD113C474 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from [218.16.58.208] (helo=munin.tcaportal.com) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML31I-1HQHqi3Ijj-0005G8; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:48:10 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.101] (unknown [125.93.192.159]) by munin.tcaportal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A44A6C60 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:45:19 +0800 (HKT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <7C9498EE-32A1-4F4A-B70C-B7AB6EA4731E@tca-cable-connector.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Questions From: David Schulz Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:47:49 +0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:1405312fe15d228f5bad0d2fcbb6dc17 X-Provags-ID2: V01U2FsdGVkX19tX69B67oILwR4Py/GSx9Uq+MFcn+CRmp6IPm oA6PsYGXRlPAp3JkdgAmFnAuMO/CaqbNzYUCecaqeOqEDfGVe2 N25W0mEBu1UoM+Q4cjtYw== Cc: Subject: some advice on sysctl tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:48:12 -0000 Hello all, i have a Server which does mail, and web+mysql+php. I have about 15 vhosts in Apache. Are there some neat sysctl Knobs i can turn to avoid potential Problems? Thanks a lot, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:02:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE00A16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8912D13C467 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l2B72qJ7002399 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:02:52 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.42] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l2B72oiT003728 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:02:51 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:02:48 -0800 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.10.225433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: "AMD64 -current iso laying around?" or "How to make a LiveCD from scratch?" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:02:52 -0000 Just bought and built a new PC, comes with an Conroe-based Core 2 Duo, Realtek 8169 Gigabit chipset, JbMicron PATA / SATA RAID controller, and the like. Now, I can boot up the FreeBSD livecd perfectly fine, but when it comes to adding the interface the driver isn't present (although it is available if one compiles the kernel with the proper driver), and if I do install the system it fails to properly detect the root devices at boot (something to do with the RAID setup or numbering drives I believe). So, in an effort to get my system up and running I was wondering if someone could provide me with either a link to a v7 ISO available somewhere, or directions on how to make a FreeBSD LiveCD (I have 2 other IA32 systems kicking around I can use for building stuff :)..). As a wonderful sidenote, for kicks I tried to install Vista and I must say that it sucks.. blue screens / locks up every time I have a session open. This year is a year for Unix to come back because I sense a lot of bad problems for Windows / MS on the horizon.. Cheers and thanks! -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:10:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED3016A404 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C683713C441 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1486165nfc for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:10:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hJ7AnHnniOw8QK8foHe92V2KQNchRAHWOel0egx+9B9yMAf13WwPgVLjRmB5XwuSGQ8P+iiYl9YsZ3ZkviVCw9MNYsbjpKnOCy/uiNA360v0VzRDi27C91set6Ekteoz03u+TMHKSrvJ0tZo91mqZgFKiI6wJpJlhv9iHIyaySo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CCuANxTqrl02iX5/GHusktwJ98cRYuAv1QucV4awpAVn0HjO8FZrzM9t7zRwjAkmPB9P6WthIE6hlqfFzyYgSG2vUU+ZJFkWze530AQpxmCvqRJFI36XIiIK8hQ/53r/bLEnqHHq/LsB/dRytndeH5iy1EXQKM7dFJnPz7eHAyg= Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr5882687buc.1173597035867; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.163.14 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:10:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0703102310ydac5ea1u95a24dd66b650a13@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:10:35 -0800 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "Garrett Cooper" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: "AMD64 -current iso laying around?" or "How to make a LiveCD from scratch?" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@psualum.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:10:37 -0000 > So, in an effort to get my system up and running I was wondering if > someone could provide me with either a link to a v7 ISO available > somewhere, or directions on how to make a FreeBSD LiveCD (I have 2 > other IA32 systems kicking around I can use for building stuff :)..). There are 7.0-CURRENT snapshots available on ftp.freebsd.org, for example: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/200703/7.0-CURRENT-200703-amd64-disc1.iso Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:11:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C969916A405 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BEC13C491 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2B7Ba0T066499; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:11:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2B7BZxO066488; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:11:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:11:35 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20070310225536.GA47985@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20070311081118.C66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <6faf55220703100845u62eab431y3a16ae0d8cb3bba7@mail.gmail.com> <55D533EB-26F9-40B7-838B-8BCB9D0A9463@tca-cable-connector.com> <20070310223906.E8914@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070310225536.GA47985@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: David Schulz , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Howmany CPU Does FreeBSD Support ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:11:38 -0000 >> to be clear. >> >> kernel task (disk I/O, network etc.) is always on first processor, >> everything else on any CPU. > > This is incorrect for approximately the last 7 years (it is only true > for FreeBSD 4.x and below). > > Kris > hmm.. nice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:11:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1343B16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23CE13C461 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2B7BCFZ027549 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:11:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id l2B7BCAD027548; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:11:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:11:12 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20070311071112.GS86959@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: "AMD64 -current iso laying around?" or "How to make a LiveCD from scratch?" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:11:41 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 10), Garrett Cooper said: > Just bought and built a new PC, comes with an Conroe-based Core 2 > Duo, Realtek 8169 Gigabit chipset, JbMicron PATA / SATA RAID > controller, and the like. Now, I can boot up the FreeBSD livecd > perfectly fine, but when it comes to adding the interface the driver > isn't present (although it is available if one compiles the kernel > with the proper driver), and if I do install the system it fails to > properly detect the root devices at boot (something to do with the > RAID setup or numbering drives I believe). > > So, in an effort to get my system up and running I was wondering if > someone could provide me with either a link to a v7 ISO available > somewhere, or directions on how to make a FreeBSD LiveCD (I have 2 > other IA32 systems kicking around I can use for building stuff :)..). CDs for current are available at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ ; pick the latest dated subdirectory. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:13:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D5416A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D50213C481 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2B7DIJx066662; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:13:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2B7DH8q066659; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:13:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:13:17 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Kevin Kinsey In-Reply-To: <45F32BA7.1000704@daleco.biz> Message-ID: <20070311081232.I66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F32BA7.1000704@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:13:22 -0000 > > Err, sure; and for completeness, be sure and send the IP back to this list, > and publish it on the front page of your website/blog/whatnot. and what if i will? do you know my root password? > > OK, cynicism aside, why on earth would you want to do this? That's a fool's > errand in today's world. Or, are you on a 2-machine network via crossover if you can't answer the question, just shut up. EOT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:16:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC8C16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7293213C4A7 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2B7Gigj067054 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:16:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2B7GihF067051 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:16:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:16:44 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> Message-ID: <20070311081618.F66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:16:46 -0000 > can it be set to make possible to login root to machine through telnet and > without telneting to some user and then su - > ? > > with sshd and rshd it can be set, with telnetd - no success. > once again - can someone answer my question instead of giving very "intelligent" comments? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:22:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BBA16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F46513C471 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l2B7MChh027877 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:22:12 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.42] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l2B7MCwt026719 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:22:12 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070311071112.GS86959@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20070311071112.GS86959@dan.emsphone.com> X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:22:10 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.10.230933 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: "AMD64 -current iso laying around?" or "How to make a LiveCD from scratch?" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:22:13 -0000 On Mar 10, 2007, at 11:11 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 10), Garrett Cooper said: >> Just bought and built a new PC, comes with an Conroe-based Core 2 >> Duo, Realtek 8169 Gigabit chipset, JbMicron PATA / SATA RAID >> controller, and the like. Now, I can boot up the FreeBSD livecd >> perfectly fine, but when it comes to adding the interface the driver >> isn't present (although it is available if one compiles the kernel >> with the proper driver), and if I do install the system it fails to >> properly detect the root devices at boot (something to do with the >> RAID setup or numbering drives I believe). >> >> So, in an effort to get my system up and running I was wondering if >> someone could provide me with either a link to a v7 ISO available >> somewhere, or directions on how to make a FreeBSD LiveCD (I have 2 >> other IA32 systems kicking around I can use for building stuff :)..). > > CDs for current are available at > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ ; pick the latest dated > subdirectory. > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com Oh nice! Thanks (both of you) guys! -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:25:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3814416A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E186B13C474 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:25:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2B7PBVE057648 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:25:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id l2B7PABw057647; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:25:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:25:10 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Kelly Jones Message-ID: <20070311072510.GT86959@dan.emsphone.com> References: <26face530703101126td84a6foa8d6bea2d5a13fd2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26face530703101126td84a6foa8d6bea2d5a13fd2@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD equivalents of hwclock and adjtimex? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:25:27 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 10), Kelly Jones said: > What are the FreeBSD equivalents of hwclock (view/set the BIOS > hardware clock) and adjtimex (adjust clock speed)? I couldn't find > these two well-known Linux commands in ports? FreeBSD sets the hardware clock whenever settimeofday() is called (unless the sysctl machdep.disable_rtc_set is set). I don't think there's a way to retrieve the current hardware clock settings from userland. Linux's adjtimex(2) is called ntp_adjtime(2) in FreeBSD. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:31:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB5216A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from susanthoffline@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF1E13C4B6 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from susanthoffline@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so1823785wri for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:31:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=CihCxRyU8tU55oj/m/+X2NfWxPdwKq0tTKR9X13V1xW2qtrOKTKPzKS+TdDOGZPfaAyvwWvbqcQnfci/9DQnccTXIr7OgKAN2IPhGI37x1vzUx6cDSewDvFOF6Syr4vKZDavF56tXf686BcYPJPjcl5gfB3soEf51tGlmC5o02E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=D4c5ppN4fiNC0rO3rkso38Pg9nphBlPOlGEA0QlQHPGHmH9VwC7QwsRz1kzlCx5I+r78scNtQFtA2AEvpHmp0s876bkhvV0pWGuoRd9dYFdVP/yShYrqwplIfAixuv7YVfG4tlDGdaIBb47ohTLsHUGZZ4enGsQdO4019tD8iVY= Received: by 10.90.78.9 with SMTP id a9mr1982551agb.1173598291423; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.97.17 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:31:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6faf55220703102331k48e2dfadmba73df423c1e05fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:01:31 +0530 From: "Susanth K" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Max CPUs in SMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:31:32 -0000 Which UNIX flavour supports the MAX CPS in SMP ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:31:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C607816A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07A013C481 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l2B7VYUp026139 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:31:34 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.42] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l2B7VXSo032539 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:31:33 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070311081618.F66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311081618.F66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:31:32 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.10.231934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:31:34 -0000 On Mar 10, 2007, at 11:16 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> can it be set to make possible to login root to machine through >> telnet and without telneting to some user and then su - >> ? >> >> with sshd and rshd it can be set, with telnetd - no success. >> > once again - can someone answer my question instead of giving very > "intelligent" comments? Not sure. If I'm reading ttys(5) correctly though this is the section of interest: ``secure'' (if ``on'' is also specified) allows users with a uid of 0 to login on this line. The flag ``dialin'' indicates that a tty entry describes a dialin line, and ``network'' indicates that a tty entry pro- vides a network connection. Either of these strings may also be speci- fied in the terminal type field. The string ``window='' may be followed by a quoted command string which init(8) will execute before starting the command specified by the second field. So I think that the following would be valid (but possibly dangerous if you use other login daemons like rshd, sshd for logging in remotely); that may be fixable with a firewall though and specific rules to each daemon though. In ttys (near bottom), instead of: ttyp0 none network try: ttyp0 none network on secure and repeat for the rest of the ttys you wish to enable the option for. Why not use root login with telnet or standard getty through serial though :\? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:41:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365F516A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B23513C48E for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2B7EYO1066800; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:14:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2B7EXAc066797; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:14:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:14:33 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Beech Rintoul In-Reply-To: <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Message-ID: <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:41:27 -0000 >> >> with sshd and rshd it can be set, with telnetd - no success. > > That is a REALLY BAD idea. Why don't you just publish your address and > set the root password to nothing. It's only going to take a cracker a > couple of minutes or less to own your server once they find you (and > they will). another stupid one not answering the question. could you describe how you get my password in a couple of minutes if you are so intelligent? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:41:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FE916A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC71413C49D for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2B7Fdls066926; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:15:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2B7FZ61066913; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:15:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:15:35 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: alex@schnarff.com In-Reply-To: <20070310191814.l15cskkoqsgsosks@mail.schnarff.com> Message-ID: <20070311081449.V66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070310191814.l15cskkoqsgsosks@mail.schnarff.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:41:28 -0000 > alert tcp $TELNET_SERVERS 23 -> $EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:"TELNET root login"; > flow > :from_server,established; content:"login|3A| root"; > classtype:suspicious-login; > sid:719; rev:7;) > could you please tell me who will be snorting it on MY network? > Of course, if you really want to do this, I agree with everyone else -- just > put your IP on this list, and we'll help you right on out. :-) > just answer my question, you VIM (very intelligent man). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:41:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA8116A405 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:41:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD69213C4A3 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2B7G4IK066968; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:16:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2B7G4Pa066965; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:16:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:16:04 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20070311014806.GA42241@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20070311081548.K66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070311014806.GA42241@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Dima Sorkin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh login as root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:41:41 -0000 On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 05:55:54PM +0200, Dima Sorkin wrote: > >> Hi. >> It _seems_ that FreeBSD does not allow root to login remotely via ssh. see /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change permitroot to yes From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 07:42:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A88616A407 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87F113C467 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:42:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99051A3C1C; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:42:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B68F512B3; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 03:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 03:42:37 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Susanth K Message-ID: <20070311074237.GA58823@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <6faf55220703102331k48e2dfadmba73df423c1e05fc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703102331k48e2dfadmba73df423c1e05fc@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Max CPUs in SMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:42:39 -0000 --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 01:01:31PM +0530, Susanth K wrote: > Which UNIX flavour supports the MAX CPS in SMP ? This isn't really a meaningful question. Do you really have a system with e.g. 1024 CPUs that you need to run an OS on? If not, what hardware are you really asking about? Kris --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF87LtWry0BWjoQKURAmgTAJ41WVTn/Vvt+dgf/UPtZcjumKfNCACgifOb CFwBxdQyw1a9spVcR7I1btk= =qU0q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 08:37:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC04E16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from susanthoffline@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3B713C478 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from susanthoffline@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so1830324wri for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:37:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=REtuoloqCFKJM6aqpZvhDgB5vvhnXXaQHh5ZIaaKWRH5jRES9kloj9HHrY0ypsmaHCpRiZtqwy5sNAIsgei6iQFVc5XM6Udsfd39WkfLEkZwf/XHhyc5BnZCUS7+4VvlNZ7aMlu+ohxLxVxyuzE4MVWSebOB9yNKknIQTTu+dQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=rmeEYEMmBoSp4HVYoRt5bruyRzfxgwTdWCqeqANdkw5lSXfKboN30GEH+6eC7a5VnMlVTvqT/Kco6hfdfKuNBEjU8fgpVfD8yaV1CLdd7+ZaxbK5ewPfk3YVLkLjGc/1X2SSA3sC2z3uvdrqu63KbtzRGm9KVsDTBpsHLS0qj8I= Received: by 10.90.69.8 with SMTP id r8mr1933111aga.1173602224100; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.97.17 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:37:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6faf55220703110037r1bda3b9y16b451ed220d1c78@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:07:04 +0530 From: "Susanth K" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: The FreeBSD7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:37:05 -0000 Wikipedia says, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebsd FreeBSD 7.0 is on >> Improved scheduler and locking scalability for 32+ CPU systems (prototyping) Does Any One know How Many CPU Does FreeBSD 6.2 Supports ? THANKS IN ADVANCE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 09:03:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DFB16A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (7-137-58-66.gci.net [66.58.137.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2F713C491 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8B47DB2; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:03:35 -0900 (AKST) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: FreeBSD Port Maintainer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:03:30 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703110003.32974.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beech@alaskaparadise.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:03:37 -0000 On Saturday 10 March 2007 22:14, Wojciech Puchar said: > >> with sshd and rshd it can be set, with telnetd - no success. > > > > That is a REALLY BAD idea. Why don't you just publish your > > address and set the root password to nothing. It's only going to > > take a cracker a couple of minutes or less to own your server > > once they find you (and they will). > > another stupid one not answering the question. > > could you describe how you get my password in a couple of minutes > if you are so intelligent? There are and have been many known exploits through telnet. The most recent one a couple of weeks ago affects SunOS where you can, using telnet, get root privileges without even logging in as root. Telnet does everything in clear text including passwords. All that's needed is to get in and install some network sniffing and the first time root logs in they would have the password. For a valid normal user on the LAN, it would be even easier. If you're looking for ease of login look into ssh and keys, that way you don't even need a password. Details are in the handbook. Even works from windows. I don't know anyone that still uses telnet except for testing on a totally closed network. An ISP I worked for disabled it and firewalled the port more than five years ago. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - beech@alaskaparadise.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 09:43:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4ABC16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5583113C461 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1256483wxc for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:43:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m10177Q5DAfOTVn2IAaQp9N/lj5cryjCHy9bsvi9mHORZZXtuIm4m74HNtT53xo1NDhCrklufvUsSRMXM5ZG+K7Z6nVZsV9F/odZwJ+X6s2VMMSBavu/q2IUOD8yn0kziiLpDcFLAy0+hEK9bz3TASEP4ROImJqClNYZGx6PttQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oDsAmmTzQYKiFJqmKQcaPcCkkLriHPsc/Foq2MSpR3nAJnVTM9diiOaPC2gEckrB4QZNKnZxlKV8iFRMGh3t3oH8TfmJev4lxs2c4qP3/O4jzk+vdOfPYSwuO9aa3w9dSc2UZU/vSpSpfxRrwRn3kMZ6NiVwEucgJ5sbtF9QD3Q= Received: by 10.70.74.1 with SMTP id w1mr7605782wxa.1173606221729; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.14.15 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:43:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:43:41 +0000 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:43:42 -0000 On 11/03/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> > >> with sshd and rshd it can be set, with telnetd - no success. > > > > That is a REALLY BAD idea. Why don't you just publish your address and > > set the root password to nothing. It's only going to take a cracker a > > couple of minutes or less to own your server once they find you (and > > they will). > > another stupid one not answering the question. > > could you describe how you get my password in a couple of minutes if you > are so intelligent? Oh, it's really simple: *If* the machine you're trying to configure root access via telnet is connected to the internet - in other terms the telnet port on the machine is accessible from the internet - one can actually brute force his/her way in. And in days of broadband connection several hundred different passwords can be guessed in a matter of seconds. There are tools like "john" that can do a bruteforce or dictionary attacks against password files, but there are similar tools that can do this over the network. To answer the question who should be able to snort you: Some script kiddies who don't understand what's actually going on, but who want to have some fun. This is why you've been told that configuring root access via telnet is a bad idea, just as any other here on this list is being told that it is a bad to configure root login via ssh - for the very same reason. And people asked you for your IP so that they could take care of your host. Since we can't know the IP adress of your host we had to ask. ;) But people who want to crack other machines don't need specific IP adress, they just scan entire networks. As most list members can tell you there are constant attacks against open ssh ports are going on. So this isn't stupidity really. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 09:52:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584CA16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E413313C491 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from [218.16.58.208] (helo=munin.tcaportal.com) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwh2-1HQKir22ji-0005ov; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:52:14 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.101] (unknown [125.93.192.159]) by munin.tcaportal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DFEA6C60 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:49:27 +0800 (HKT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703110037r1bda3b9y16b451ed220d1c78@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faf55220703110037r1bda3b9y16b451ed220d1c78@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Schulz Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:52:03 +0800 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+n63VS4vKdcmsr5W1DiPfw8Qab4jEEYxOxoka k2U4TmbsLgWuYsTrpGad8hJkOhMyVY5/d2S5IGxYEv+VfuNB2P DcJrXAbP0ACpQTFTxBkYw== Cc: Subject: Re: The FreeBSD7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:52:15 -0000 did we not have this question yet? On Mar 11, 2007, at 4:37 PM, Susanth K wrote: > Wikipedia says, > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebsd > > FreeBSD 7.0 is on >> Improved scheduler and locking scalability > for 32+ CPU > systems (prototyping) > > Does Any One know How Many CPU Does FreeBSD 6.2 Supports ? > > THANKS IN ADVANCE > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 10:08:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD7016A406 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CE213C491 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BA7wAJ084539; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:07:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BA7wL2084536; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:07:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:07:57 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Beech Rintoul In-Reply-To: <200703110003.32974.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Message-ID: <20070311110735.B84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703110003.32974.beech@alaskaparadise.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:08:01 -0000 >> if you are so intelligent? > > There are and have been many known exploits through telnet. The most > recent one a couple of weeks ago affects SunOS where you can, using > telnet, get root privileges without even logging in as root. Telnet does it affect FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 10:09:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B4116A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF0E13C4AA for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BA99IV084689; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:09:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BA98CZ084686; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:09:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:09:08 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Christian Walther In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:09:09 -0000 > > Oh, it's really simple: *If* the machine you're trying to configure > root access via telnet is connected to the internet - in other terms > the telnet port on the machine is accessible from the internet - one > can actually brute force his/her way in. so please crack me 83.18.148.142 or 2001:4070:101:1::2 through telnetd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 10:52:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A90E16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howie@thingy.com) Received: from mail.thingy.com (wotsit.thingy.com [212.21.100.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00F813C441 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howie@thingy.com) Received: (qmail 22409 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2007 10:52:47 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.12?) (howie@thingy.com@212.21.124.49) by wotsit3.thingy.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Mar 2007 10:52:47 +0000 Message-ID: <45F3DF87.1090503@thingy.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:52:55 +0000 From: Howard Jones User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311081618.F66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070311081618.F66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:52:51 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> can it be set to make possible to login root to machine through >> telnet and without telneting to some user and then su - >> ? >> >> with sshd and rshd it can be set, with telnetd - no success. >> > once again - can someone answer my question instead of giving very > "intelligent" comments? > _______________________________________________ If I remember correctly, you edit /etc/ttys and set some of your ttyp* (i.e. network ptys) to be 'SECURE'. It really isn't a good idea though. The reason I don't remember is that I haven't done it in about 10 years. If it's a remote program that needs root access, you can probably do something with ssh - you can allow ssh RootLogin, but not with passwords only public key auth, and you can *also* limit the key to be allowed to only connect from certain addresses and only run specific commands (e.g. some backup software works this way). You can have multiple keys with different restrictions even - Host A can run rsync only, and host B can run rdiff-backup only. Howie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 11:13:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67E916A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187C813C441 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BBD8tM091356; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:13:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BBD8Fx091353; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:13:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:13:07 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Howard Jones In-Reply-To: <45F3DF87.1090503@thingy.com> Message-ID: <20070311120541.Y90539@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311081618.F66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F3DF87.1090503@thingy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:13:13 -0000 >> once again - can someone answer my question instead of giving very >> "intelligent" comments? >> _______________________________________________ > If I remember correctly, you edit /etc/ttys and set some of your ttyp* (i.e. > network ptys) to be 'SECURE'. It really isn't a good idea though. The reason it works. but it is strange solution, as rshd and sshd can be set up this way. why telnetd can't? i tried allow_root in /etc/pam.d/telnetd every place (like with /etc/pam/rsh) and it doesn't work. > something with ssh - you can allow ssh RootLogin, but not with passwords only yes i already use PermitRootLogin in sshd_config and ssh root login works. same with rshd by changing /etc/pam.d/rsh but with telnet it does not. very funny is reading other people's replies about security, showing that they simply don't understand how things works. i don't ask if telnetd can be sniffed, because i know it can. as well as telnet when logging to non-root user, as well as rsh. and if there were exploits for telnetd for SunOS or FreeBSD, they exploited bugs in telnetd, and not guessing root password. so allowing root login or not doesn't make any difference. so generalizing that "telnet and rsh is bad" is as stupid as telling that oxygen is bad as it makes fires. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 10 23:44:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDEE16A408 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prandal@herefordshire.gov.uk) Received: from gateway.herefordshire.gov.uk (gateway.herefordshire.gov.uk [81.171.138.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D1613C4B2 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prandal@herefordshire.gov.uk) Received: from hc-exfe02.herefordshire.gov.uk ([10.1.251.245]) by gateway.herefordshire.gov.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2ANNamY006580; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:23:36 GMT Received: from HC-MBX02.herefordshire.gov.uk ([10.1.250.54]) by hc-exfe02.herefordshire.gov.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:23:36 +0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:23:35 -0000 Message-ID: <7EF0EE5CB3B263488C8C18823239BEBA03CEA0@HC-MBX02.herefordshire.gov.uk> In-reply-to: <26face530703101127l558d2db7y54ddb6674d663383@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? Thread-Index: AcdjSknO27CbNRFjSry+oMP8MVOQ8gAINRWw References: <26face530703101127l558d2db7y54ddb6674d663383@mail.gmail.com> From: "Randal, Phil" To: "Kelly Jones" , , , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2007 23:23:36.0651 (UTC) FILETIME=[20D021B0:01C7636B] X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (gateway.herefordshire.gov.uk [172.27.0.2]); Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:23:37 +0000 (GMT) X-herefordshire-gov-uk-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-herefordshire-gov-uk-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: prandal@herefordshire.gov.uk X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:18:46 +0000 Cc: Subject: RE: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:44:09 -0000 smf-sav is one sendmail milter which does this: http://smfs.sourceforge.net/smf-sav.html SAV v1.3.0 - console utility for e-Mail Sender Address Verification (also at http://smfs.sf.net/ ) Cheers, Phil -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Jones [mailto:kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com]=20 Sent: 10 March 2007 19:28 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; users@spamassassin.apache.org; linuxusersgroup@googlegroups.com; nmlug@nmlug.org; nmosug-l@mailman.swcp.com Subject: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? To fight spam, I want to validate the address (not necessarily in real-time) of the a given email sender. Is there a Unix tool that does this? The basics are simple: to validate "kmnyqi@wnonline.net", I connect to the MX record of wnonline.net and go as far as "RCPT TO" as follows: > host -t mx wnonline.net wnonline.net mail is handled by 5 wnspf.bayou.com. > telnet wnspf.bayou.com. 25 Trying 209.209.192.75... Connected to wnspf.bayou.com.. Escape character is '^]'. 220 Welcome to Bayou mxfilter HELO domaintester.com 250 mxfilter.bayou.com MAIL FROM: 250 Ok RCPT TO: 550 : Recipient address rejected: 5.1.1 ... User unknown QUIT 221 Bye Connection closed by foreign host. This tells me kmnyqi@wnonline.net is an invalid address and that mail from that address is probably bogus. A more sophisticated tool would cache results, handle temporary failures (eg, inability to connect to the MX server), handle multiple MX records, perhaps even publish results [carefully, to avoid giving spammers a source of legit email addresses!], etc. Plus, I'd prefer to use a tested tool vs hacking something up myself. I realize this technique is far from perfect: Spammers spoof legit addresses Bounces/Mailing lists/etc legitimately use "do not reply" addresses It could be considered unfriendly to the target MX servers Some mail servers incorrectly say "user unknown" when they see spam, figuring it's more of a deterrent than saying "you're a spammer" Some mail servers inefficiently accept mail for "foo@xxx.com" (where xxx.com is one of their domains), figure out if foo exists later, and send a bounce back to the envelope sender, instead of rejecting email at the SMTP level (a really good tool would create throwaway addresses to catch these cases too) ... but I still think it might help. --=20 We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 11:28:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386C816A407 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:28:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howie@thingy.com) Received: from mail.thingy.com (wotsit.thingy.com [212.21.100.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8087F13C442 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:28:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howie@thingy.com) Received: (qmail 23361 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2007 11:28:31 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.12?) (howie@thingy.com@212.21.124.49) by wotsit3.thingy.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Mar 2007 11:28:31 +0000 Message-ID: <45F3E7E6.6060908@thingy.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:28:38 +0000 From: Howard Jones User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311081618.F66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F3DF87.1090503@thingy.com> <20070311120541.Y90539@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070311120541.Y90539@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] [freebsd-questions] root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:28:33 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > so generalizing that "telnet and rsh is bad" is as stupid as telling > that oxygen is bad as it makes fires. Well, that's true, but if you have the choice, there are better choices. You *can* hammer in nails with the butt of a gun, but there's a chance you'll somehow shoot yourself in the arm. A hammer doesn't have that risk. There have been *many* problems over the years with rsh and telnet. rsh's security model comes from a time when people thought computers would never lie to each other. SSH does allow you to give only enough access, with the side-benefits (in your case) of compression and encryption. Even if you used ssh without those, the key-based authentication is still safer, and the code more modern and securely designed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 12:41:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED3616A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171D713C48A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BCNjwj098581; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:23:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BCNiF1098578; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:23:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:23:44 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Howard Jones In-Reply-To: <45F3E7E6.6060908@thingy.com> Message-ID: <20070311132239.W98425@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311081618.F66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F3DF87.1090503@thingy.com> <20070311120541.Y90539@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F3E7E6.6060908@thingy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] [freebsd-questions] root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:41:26 -0000 > There have been *many* problems over the years with rsh and telnet. rsh's > security model comes from a time when people thought computers would never exactly true. so i use rsh between MY machines and rsh and telnet when sniffing is not a problem. wasn't easier just to answer the question? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 13:09:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9082216A407 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C74A13C468 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so1797037ugh for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:09:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=f6Hb8h7s5HHVbalgvLANLeq2jViLTtcTyMnong/SCKdtsteHuy0tKRaT99UfDZwuChLsaUZMNWwa2MPVj7Rme1XQ2rRrlSoZSVp4LzlXjnEUFp9GafE3O/yVAYisE5kH8qpYNN0SWkiv2cHFyrbuieyrBR1wLh2+OxxleFoZJqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Ai3cR90J9687RI/fKmevor9FL23TLk8ZrIUm8X7H1l9i2//8U7rGgcoD0uy0HB7JYno/yUsYBgZnXHXCS4X1FPFTy/uS6YqjcOskscR27D9yBKNfkvJ3MSp6uX4gr8y7YDIQyQYugqVLMgI7cSWWiBb2RcEYeEoN5AAEptRzMmg= Received: by 10.70.91.11 with SMTP id o11mr7925286wxb.1173617078381; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.47.2 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:44:38 +0000 From: "Luiz A B de Campos" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: installing i386.rpm files on FBSD-6.1 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:09:47 -0000 Is it possible to do this? I've already installed linux_base-8 and rpm ports but when I try to install a "i386.rpm" file the system claims for some libs (libpopt, libtiff, glibc.so.6 , libxml, bash) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 13:14:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D68E16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from susanthoffline@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C584113C468 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from susanthoffline@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so1865349wri for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:14:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YHgFdPx4BIIDq5panFtTXbEmt7updygobh6y6lPmK1UTmlLCsQKOkcFSHph8XkMbwXSlOwu95L+qf5aZG3El/Bl1vcGNRE1paVAV+wEPgnommAurmS1OHn6kU2mBoaaHps2So+6qC/XW19koHNW3QNED3a8fk1OV1GlmvLIIFBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bu016smFdI4hqaHdETEHHb6y1/CGx3/x0yP6KSE8Kmn6Xn2lZhf8v/UHa7SrfVELL2Yf8hh9k7HB0iREwm0qaLGbJtTCiyMsz7nblplgNyOwzToxIr/M+srciZR8SKuYirvQlc1BxInBtkM3KwttopbR1fPkrnBxRAhtcaa+W2o= Received: by 10.90.92.7 with SMTP id p7mr2235409agb.1173618859283; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.97.17 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6faf55220703110614u5acc79a5k3b9d21f48089a782@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:44:19 +0530 From: "Susanth K" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: When Will The FreeBSD 7.0 be released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:14:20 -0000 Dear Friends, When Will The FreeBSD 7.0 be released ? SUSANTH K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 13:02:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1278A16A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jm@jmason.org) Received: from dogma.boxhost.net (dogma.boxhost.net [80.169.141.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A483313C489 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jm@jmason.org) Received: from radish.jmason.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogma.boxhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE2131007A; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:32:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jmason.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by radish.jmason.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A326032CD9; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:31:42 +0100 (CET) To: "Kelly Jones" In-Reply-To: <26face530703101127l558d2db7y54ddb6674d663383@mail.gmail.com> From: jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: 1368 71CE 3627 9CD3 FA1B 0B63 3091 7972 298B C7D0 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:31:42 +0000 Sender: jm@jmason.org Message-Id: <20070311123142.A326032CD9@radish.jmason.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:14:37 +0000 Cc: nmosug-l@mailman.swcp.com, linuxusersgroup@googlegroups.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nmlug@nmlug.org, users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:02:37 -0000 for what it's worth, I would suggest *not* adopting this as an anti-spam technique. Sender-address verification is _bad_ as an anti-spam technique, in my opinion. Basically, there's one obvious response for spammers looking to evade it -- use "real" sender addresses. Where's an easy place to find real addresses? On the list of target addresses they're spamming! Hence, the spam recipients now get twice as much mail from each spam run -- spam aimed at them, *and* bounce blowback from hundreds of spams aimed at others, forged to appear to be from them. It's the obvious response to SAV, which is one reason why we never implemented something like that in SpamAssassin. --j. Kelly Jones writes: > To fight spam, I want to validate the address (not necessarily in > real-time) of the a given email sender. Is there a Unix tool that does > this? > > The basics are simple: to validate "kmnyqi@wnonline.net", I connect to > the MX record of wnonline.net and go as far as "RCPT TO" as follows: > > > host -t mx wnonline.net > wnonline.net mail is handled by 5 wnspf.bayou.com. > > > telnet wnspf.bayou.com. 25 > Trying 209.209.192.75... > Connected to wnspf.bayou.com.. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 Welcome to Bayou mxfilter > HELO domaintester.com > 250 mxfilter.bayou.com > MAIL FROM: > 250 Ok > RCPT TO: > 550 : Recipient address rejected: 5.1.1 > ... User unknown > QUIT > 221 Bye > Connection closed by foreign host. > > This tells me kmnyqi@wnonline.net is an invalid address and that mail > from that address is probably bogus. > > A more sophisticated tool would cache results, handle temporary > failures (eg, inability to connect to the MX server), handle multiple > MX records, perhaps even publish results [carefully, to avoid giving > spammers a source of legit email addresses!], etc. Plus, I'd prefer to > use a tested tool vs hacking something up myself. > > I realize this technique is far from perfect: > > Spammers spoof legit addresses > > Bounces/Mailing lists/etc legitimately use "do not reply" addresses > > It could be considered unfriendly to the target MX servers > > Some mail servers incorrectly say "user unknown" when they see spam, > figuring it's more of a deterrent than saying "you're a spammer" > > Some mail servers inefficiently accept mail for "foo@xxx.com" (where > xxx.com is one of their domains), figure out if foo exists later, and > send a bounce back to the envelope sender, instead of rejecting email > at the SMTP level (a really good tool would create throwaway addresses > to catch these cases too) > > ... but I still think it might help. > > -- > We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying > to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to > new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 13:49:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51C716A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62208.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62208.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B9C013C43E for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 23288 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Mar 2007 13:49:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=uuS0Y8rv5/tP6L/+0qVpF3oeuh0aCtvrtOv/4RRXxCZkjOMZbSbck/DnnlaxpbrlwMiRP4z4pe7euNPQmdF1Q6mRLM/Zc64t1JNVtS534XaynXgewc1G+rmtI9nQC2/1utG4qk2Nuyj2374Vc+AzemxBJqnfAMjuZ19ShO6xCEM=; X-YMail-OSG: oISgpM4VM1nBggdh5..J8w9zOzyD6GuxsEF_8_7sIg.GcvTZpJ0FGXU_hFtAQREGfuwm0HNsmc8oqMVoonsWcM6VpQrPbl0.oASLjIcf.TbIoIdHmOUaRynOBIJhYFry Received: from [69.19.14.32] by web62208.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:49:23 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:49:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <751051.21217.qm@web62208.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: clean-hoststat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:49:24 -0000 Hi; Just built a new server and got this error: Removing stale entries from sendmail host status cache: /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat: purgestat: Permission denied # ls -al /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 588 Jan 12 07:42 /etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat Please advise. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 14:09:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C9D16A40F for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from sipserver.k1.com.br (customer-200195195217.idc.onda.com.br [200.195.195.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5010E13C44C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from k1.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sipserver.k1.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2BCR9N3026729 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:09:54 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (k1.com.br) Received: from [201.21.172.89] (authenticated as lenzi) by k1.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 11 Mar 2007 14:09:53 -0000 From: Sergio Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:09:52 -0300 Message-Id: <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:09:57 -0000 Hello... I see you issues about telenet... I use the inetd+telnet for more than 20 years and using BSD with RSA, and obviiously with a good password. I have never been cracked down... and I have 10 of my /etc/ttys entries setted to "secure" ttyp0 none network off secure ttyp1 none network off secure ttyp2 none network off secure ttyp3 none network off secure ttyp4 none network off secure ttyp5 none network off secure ttyp6 none network off secure ttyp7 none network off secure ttyp8 none network off secure ttyp9 none network off secure ttypa none network off secure ttypb none network off secure ttypc none network off secure in my /etc/master.passwd..... root:*:0:0::0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh a "kill -1 1" would allow root do dial in I block the root account in /etc/master.passwd by put a "*" as md5hash and setted up an "supper" account..... pw adduser xxxxxxxxx -d /root -s /usr/local/bin/bash -u 0 -g 0 -h 0 Than is done... All the cracking I have seen is from someone that is INSIDE the machine (http using php,pop,imap, ssh,...) that is you have yet allowed him to come in, you gave them the password (in the case of ssh), or in http... A "normal" FreeBSD 6.2 or an OpenBSD, is incredible solid... You must know the "superuser" login AND the password.... choose a password with letters and numbers, or something in portuguese (only 7 countries speak that): biruta22, pezinho12, 45pinheiiros, tovazioagora, batatinha744, 45canastra96..... I tested in an security system and it says is have good security... (pgp)... Besides.. using brute force in a word like "itacolomi" using a 1 second delay would result ,,,, "forever" Besides, BSD have the ability to force a new password once it is too old... a new password every 3 months is a good choice.... and you must stilll pass through RSA . Thanks for sharing the experience... now I know I am not the one that uses "telenet" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 14:14:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1EF16A403 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386C213C480 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [10.35.4.65] (65.4-35-10-static.chueca.wifi [10.35.4.65]) by strange.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD7E2E024; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:14:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F40EC7.9070603@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:14:31 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Susanth K References: <6faf55220703110614u5acc79a5k3b9d21f48089a782@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703110614u5acc79a5k3b9d21f48089a782@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010906080200080402040407" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When Will The FreeBSD 7.0 be released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:14:34 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010906080200080402040407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Susanth K wrote: > Dear Friends, > > When Will The FreeBSD 7.0 be released ? Check: http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html Appears the release process is set to start in june. What is not yet clear is if RELENG_7 has been branched off yet so we should all update our supfile? I suppose this will happen before the the release process sets off. 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X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (k1.com.br) Received: from [201.21.172.89] (authenticated as k1) by k1.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 11 Mar 2007 14:22:43 -0000 From: Sergio Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:22:42 -0300 Message-Id: <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: root login with telnetd The FINAL SOLUTION X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:22:45 -0000 So..... resuming: 1) change some lines in /etc/ttys to: ttyp0 none network off secure ttyp1 none network off secure ttyp2 none network off secure ttyp3 none network off secure ttyp4 none network off secure ttyp5 none network off secure ttyp6 none network off secure ttyp7 none network off secure ttyp8 none network off secure ttyp9 none network off secure ttypa none network off secure ttypb none network off secure ttypc none network off secure > 2) signal init to read it : kill -1 1 3) make sure inetd is running see the /etc/rc.conf must have inetd_enable="YES" 4) remove the "#" at the line telnet in inetd.conf 5) make inetd run /etc/rc.d/inetd restart 6) change root password echo "mysecretpassword" | pw usermod root -h 0 7) telnet to your server should now allow root login Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 14:35:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B81D16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7F113C459 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup149.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.149]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l2BEYWKU025043 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:34:41 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2BEYNP2003599; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:34:24 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2BEYLIH003598; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:34:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:34:20 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Erik Norgaard Message-ID: <20070311143420.GA3523@kobe.laptop> References: <6faf55220703110614u5acc79a5k3b9d21f48089a782@mail.gmail.com> <45F40EC7.9070603@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F40EC7.9070603@locolomo.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.065, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.33, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Susanth K , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When Will The FreeBSD 7.0 be released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:35:03 -0000 On 2007-03-11 15:14, Erik Norgaard wrote: >Susanth K wrote: >> Dear Friends, >> >> When Will The FreeBSD 7.0 be released ? > > Check: > > http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html > > Appears the release process is set to start in june. > > What is not yet clear is if RELENG_7 has been branched off yet so we > should all update our supfile? I suppose this will happen before the > the release process sets off. For what it's worth, no RELENG_7 has not been branched yet. To answer Susanth's question, the scheduler published by the release engineering team is the one which should be the authoritative answer. The HEAD of CVS is now 7.0-CURRENT. Until a release is announced by the RE team, you should assume that the officially supported releases are the ones listed on our web site. Regards, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:21:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824DC16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-242.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C6E13C468 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2BFLtK4008269 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:21:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:21:54 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703111021.55086.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: portupgrade bombing out for java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:21:58 -0000 portupgrade is bombing due to the file tzupdater-1.1.0-2007c.zip not being found in /usr/ports/distfiles. however, when i visit http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml, there appears to be no link or no information about such a file. does anyone know what the story is, and where this file is available from? thanks, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:25:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27E316A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruggeri@uchicago.edu) Received: from relay03.uchicago.edu (relay03.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E50C13C43E for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruggeri@uchicago.edu) Received: from james-rfz25yf2.hsd1.il.comcast.net (boardwalk-flyer.cs.uchicago.edu [128.135.24.243]) by relay03.uchicago.edu (8.13.6.20060614/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l2BFPGG4009616 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:25:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:25:16 -0500 To: free-bsd-questions From: "Edward Ruggeri" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070307205726.AKZ27933@m4500-02.uchicago.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (Win32) Subject: Re: Problem Launching Applications in Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:25:17 -0000 On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:04:48 -0600, Edward Ruggeri wrote: > On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:54:55 -0600, Chuck Swiger wrote: > >> On Mar 7, 2007, at 6:57 PM, ruggeri@uchicago.edu wrote: >>> The main application I run is Vim, which I run through Gnome- >>> Terminal. I frequently have several copies running >>> simultaneously. In general response to Gnome-Terminal >>> commands is very fast, but sometimes when I try to open a >>> file with Vim it takes up to 20-30 seconds to load. The >>> files are not particularly large (max 300 lines). >>> >>> During this time, if I try to launch another application in >>> Gnome (e.g., Opera or another Gnome-Terminal), it will not >>> come up. It is as if everything is frozen until finally Vi >>> loads and opens the file, at which point anything else I have >>> tried to open works fine. >> >> Is it possible that you're low on RAM, and the system has to swap in a >> bunch of stuff to let you task-switch to Opera or GT? Is it only the >> combination of GT & Vim, or do you sometimes encounter this long delay >> when switching between applications doing other things? >> >>> I have of course looked at top when this problem occurs. CPU >>> usage is about 2%, and there is no significant memory usage >>> either. >> >> It would be helpful to know what state the GT & vim processes were in, >> too. > > RAM usage remains very low throughout. In addition, I have 2GB of RAM > on this system, so while that was also my first suspicion, I don't think > that's it. > > When vim exhibits this behavior (which it doesn't always do), it will > sit in sbwait and will finally load as it comes out of sbwait. If I try > to open another GT during vim's stalling, it will also be stuck in > sbwait, generally coming out of it at the same time as vim. > > Thanks very much for your thoughts! > > -- Ned Ruggeri Sorry to post again in response to my own email, but I have some new information. In addition to the processes being stuck in sbwait, it also appears that when loading they start on the second core but switch to the first when getting out of the sbwait state. Also, this problem definitely seems to be exhibited in other applications. Sometimes I have to wait 15 seconds for Gnome-Terminal to load even with no applications running. I'm suspicious this might be related to Gnome's Screensaver, since GT opens slowly generally after coming out of screensaver. Any thoughts? It's a real drag, because freeBSD is so fast for me outside this problem, but it's making it impossible to use... Thanks guys! Sincerely, -- Ned Ruggeri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:30:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF8116A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idmc_vivr@intgdev.com) Received: from omr6.networksolutionsemail.com (omr6.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835CD13C459 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idmc_vivr@intgdev.com) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr6.mgt.netsol.com [10.49.6.69]) by omr6.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l2BFGWxA021004 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:16:32 -0400 Received: (qmail 15086 invoked by uid 78); 11 Mar 2007 15:16:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail13) (205.178.146.50) by ns-omr6.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2007 15:16:31 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (idmc_vivr@intgdev.com [127.0.0.1]) by webmail13 (EdgeDesk 4.04) with WEBMAIL id 6890; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:16:31 +0000 From: "V.I.Victor" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mintersoft EdgeDesk, Build 4.03.0105 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:16:31 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Daylight Savings Time -- /etc/localtime and what else? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:30:03 -0000 A month ago I downloaded tzdata2007b.tar.gz, compiled it and installed a = new /etc/localtime. All seemed OK. Now, after the time change, I've had to restart both 'fetchmail' and 'sen= dmail' to get '/var/log/maillog' in-sync with the new time. Not a proble= m; apparently these processes use time-data based on their original start= up. But what else needs to be restarted? 'top' (edited) for root shows: PID STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 242 select 4:37 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 386 nanslp 3:28 0.00% 0.00% cron 418 select 0:32 0.00% 0.00% inetd 18001 select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% sshd 6985 RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top 6844 pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% csh 423 ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty (x8 Lines) 167 pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% adjkerntz 224 select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% devd Maybe 'cron' -- daily & security email is an hour off. Should I just restart the whole system? (FreeBSD 5.4, i386) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:40:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A593B16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D370913C455 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BFefuI020402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:40:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BFef0J020399 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:40:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:40:41 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070311163851.O20344@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: jails and crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:40:46 -0000 is there any fix for crashing when using jails i have few jails on one machine, almost nothing running outside jails, and it crashes. as far as i found - crash is always when allocating pty - when logging with ssh telnet etc. to one of jails. any fixes? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:44:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2596416A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B8C13C459 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by pukruppa.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2BFnJwv003531; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:49:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:49:18 +0100 (CET) From: "P.U.Kruppa" To: Jonathan Horne In-Reply-To: <200703111021.55086.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Message-ID: <20070311164606.P2869@pukruppa.net> References: <200703111021.55086.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade bombing out for java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:44:44 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2007, Jonathan Horne wrote: > portupgrade is bombing due to the file tzupdater-1.1.0-2007c.zip not being > found in /usr/ports/distfiles. however, when i visit > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml, there appears to be no > link or no information about such a file. Type # make install manually into your java port's directory. It will tell you where to find this file. Regards, Uli. > > does anyone know what the story is, and where this file is available from? > > thanks, > jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Peter Ulrich Kruppa Wuppertal Germany From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:45:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0775F16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed.zwart@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B47813C46E for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed.zwart@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1575335nfc for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:45:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=aoliQpFB4jkPDyeWk7WKSCRoo/UZxf1x8RZTG+fcCenLKwhtSEDzvSsoPmliaLuKtbygQ41mwomBMhkmt3MW8duzfOkWuR1QMwIRWXQes1h7hBs9iQH7BiXicSwo3Wx+6ZUhrclxJe9fIZwh+KUvgDdp1zF90kWoch7LAWbPSxY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=j7vUAobnzPGsq02J7Fv2KarVWSckH+sPfmJwZZj+FjwJ+0+ypz08pLToNEXIrMv7ZFOOmmgal3Ywz04IwM9OXqKb6JCELuvb6W/IYaNZVxSsBBhIiTM2WsF7Dqvwie9Z4DC0CITVD3Z7MjmY3g2GjCC6fGDuoXy0n8Iktfdeqm0= Received: by 10.82.136.4 with SMTP id j4mr6548865bud.1173627947282; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.185.13 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:45:47 -0800 From: "Ed Zwart" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:45:49 -0000 I use freebsd on an older computer in my home network to run a webserver, a few web apps (bugzilla, tikiwiki), and samba. I just installed postfix via the ports collection so I can use the mail functionality of bugzilla. Bugzilla does its part correctly; I can see the message in the mailq, but all messages time out. From the postfix site, I learned about the MTU black hole issue (http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#timeouts). After spending some time messing both with my bsd machine's hostname and my home network gateway's settings (domain name and mtu size), I got nowhere. But then I read somewhere (sorry, I don't have the reference) that the handshake that goes on between my MTA and the destination machine includes a check that I'm not spoofing a domain that I don't control. Makes sense! So, I figured that I don't have an MTU problem at all, but a hostname/domain name problem. What I'm a little weak on is understanding is this... I own my_domain.com. I've paid a hoster for the last couple years, but that's ending in a week or so. Meanwhile, I've used dyndns to point foo.homedns.org to my IP. Originally, I had left the gateway's domain as the default (something based on my isp's domain), and set the bsd machine's hostname to foo.my_domain.com. But that's why mail was failing (I think) because dns was reporting that my_domain.com was not the same as my IP. Is this correct? Also, what are valid entries then for hostname then? Anything I want, as long as it's not some domain already known in the dns? Does it matter if I change my "domain" name on my LAN router? Finally, what I'd really like to do is just manage all this myself. I'm not providing any services to anyone but myself. (I don't have users, and don't need to receive mail.) My plan had been to pay dyndns to handle pointing to my_domain.com for me, but now I'm wondering if I can't just do that too. So, last question: does setting up dns on my bsd box mean I can propogate my IP for my_domain.com myself? Thanks in advance for help! e. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:56:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FC716A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680EA13C44C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BFuHkb021404; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:56:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BFuFpB021392; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:56:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:56:15 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Sergio Lenzi In-Reply-To: <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070311165538.U21155@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root login with telnetd The FINAL SOLUTION X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:56:17 -0000 works fine. thank you very much (point 6 wasn't needed) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 15:59:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC16C16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DA213C44C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BFxBkX021748; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:59:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BFxAek021742; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:59:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:59:10 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Susanth K In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703110614u5acc79a5k3b9d21f48089a782@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070311165900.F21155@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <6faf55220703110614u5acc79a5k3b9d21f48089a782@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When Will The FreeBSD 7.0 be released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:59:11 -0000 > Dear Friends, > > When Will The FreeBSD 7.0 be released ? when it will be ready. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 16:12:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D1716A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC50413C62C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (c-71-60-174-60.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.174.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2E9EBC62; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:02:26 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Ed Zwart" Message-Id: <20070311120226.9c90dd7f.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.10 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:12:28 -0000 "Ed Zwart" wrote: > > I use freebsd on an older computer in my home network to run a > webserver, a few web apps (bugzilla, tikiwiki), and samba. I just > installed postfix via the ports collection so I can use the mail > functionality of bugzilla. > > Bugzilla does its part correctly; I can see the message in the mailq, > but all messages time out. From the postfix site, I learned about the > MTU black hole issue (http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#timeouts). > After spending some time messing both with my bsd machine's hostname > and my home network gateway's settings (domain name and mtu size), I > got nowhere. > > But then I read somewhere (sorry, I don't have the reference) that the > handshake that goes on between my MTA and the destination machine > includes a check that I'm not spoofing a domain that I don't control. > Makes sense! So, I figured that I don't have an MTU problem at all, > but a hostname/domain name problem. > > What I'm a little weak on is understanding is this... > > I own my_domain.com. I've paid a hoster for the last couple years, > but that's ending in a week or so. Meanwhile, I've used dyndns to > point foo.homedns.org to my IP. > > Originally, I had left the gateway's domain as the default (something > based on my isp's domain), and set the bsd machine's hostname to > foo.my_domain.com. But that's why mail was failing (I think) because > dns was reporting that my_domain.com was not the same as my IP. Is > this correct? > > Also, what are valid entries then for hostname then? Anything I want, > as long as it's not some domain already known in the dns? Does it > matter if I change my "domain" name on my LAN router? > > Finally, what I'd really like to do is just manage all this myself. > I'm not providing any services to anyone but myself. (I don't have > users, and don't need to receive mail.) My plan had been to pay > dyndns to handle pointing to my_domain.com for me, but now I'm > wondering if I can't just do that too. So, last question: does setting > up dns on my bsd box mean I can propogate my IP for my_domain.com > myself? First, you need to figure out what the problem is. You're making a lot of guesses right now. However, I would suspect that your best bet would be to specify that all outgoing mail routes through your ISP. Their MTA should be configured to allow all mail from their customers to be sent. In postfix, define the relayhost parameter to be your ISP's outgoing server. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 16:16:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E58C16A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81BF13C4AE for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([217.147.20.50] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HQQiZ-000DxL-Nh; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:16:19 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HQQn8-0007Oj-FA; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:21:02 +0300 To: "Luiz A B de Campos" References: From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:21:02 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Luiz A. B. de Campos's message of "Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:44:38 +0000") Message-ID: <90511297@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing i386.rpm files on FBSD-6.1 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:16:22 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:44:38 +0000 Luiz A B de Campos wrote: > Is it possible to do this? I've already installed linux_base-8 and rpm ports It is recommended to use linux_base-fc4 nowadays. > but when I try to install a "i386.rpm" file the system claims for some libs > (libpopt, libtiff, glibc.so.6 , libxml, bash) All those apps are already at the ports tree. Which app do you need to run? If it presents at the ports tree one should use ports/packages to install. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 16:20:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1AE16A40A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from mail.applied-epistemics.com (mail.applied-epistemics.com [65.39.221.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AFF13C484 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from homebase (c-67-190-235-215.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [67.190.235.215]) by mail.applied-epistemics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09021633007; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:53:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:53:23 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703111053.23850.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: Ed Zwart Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:20:05 -0000 On Sunday 11 March 2007 10:45, Ed Zwart wrote: > I use freebsd on an older computer in my home network to run a > webserver, a few web apps (bugzilla, tikiwiki), and samba. I just > installed postfix via the ports collection so I can use the mail > functionality of bugzilla. > > Bugzilla does its part correctly; I can see the message in the > mailq, but all messages time out. From the postfix site, I learned > about the MTU black hole issue > (http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#timeouts). After spending some > time messing both with my bsd machine's hostname and my home > network gateway's settings (domain name and mtu size), I got > nowhere. > > But then I read somewhere (sorry, I don't have the reference) that > the handshake that goes on between my MTA and the destination > machine includes a check that I'm not spoofing a domain that I > don't control. Makes sense! So, I figured that I don't have an MTU > problem at all, but a hostname/domain name problem. > > What I'm a little weak on is understanding is this... > > I own my_domain.com. I've paid a hoster for the last couple years, > but that's ending in a week or so. Meanwhile, I've used dyndns to > point foo.homedns.org to my IP. > > Originally, I had left the gateway's domain as the default > (something based on my isp's domain), and set the bsd machine's > hostname to foo.my_domain.com. But that's why mail was failing (I > think) because dns was reporting that my_domain.com was not the > same as my IP. Is this correct? > > Also, what are valid entries then for hostname then? Anything I > want, as long as it's not some domain already known in the dns? > Does it matter if I change my "domain" name on my LAN router? > > Finally, what I'd really like to do is just manage all this myself. > I'm not providing any services to anyone but myself. (I don't have > users, and don't need to receive mail.) My plan had been to pay > dyndns to handle pointing to my_domain.com for me, but now I'm > wondering if I can't just do that too. So, last question: does > setting up dns on my bsd box mean I can propogate my IP for > my_domain.com myself? > > Thanks in advance for help! > > e. Your ISP is probably just blocking outgoing connections to port 25...set postfix to use their smtp servers as a relayhost. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 16:20:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A8016A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from mail.barafranca.com (mail.barafranca.com [67.19.101.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2670313C44C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8B8C5798 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.barafranca.com ([67.19.101.164]) by localhost (mail.barafranca.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25576-09 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (a213-22-26-111.cpe.netcabo.pt [213.22.26.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA814C578C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <45F42C33.7000402@barafranca.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:20:03 +0000 From: Hugo Silva User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061007) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F32BA7.1000704@daleco.biz> <20070311081232.I66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070311081232.I66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at barafranca.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-1 required=4 tests=[none] X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:20:12 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> Err, sure; and for completeness, be sure and send the IP back to this >> list, and publish it on the front page of your website/blog/whatnot. > > and what if i will? do you know my root password? >> OK, cynicism aside, why on earth would you want to do this? That's a >> fool's errand in today's world. Or, are you on a 2-machine network >> via crossover > > if you can't answer the question, just shut up. > EOT I am.. amazed by your aggressive attitute towards everyone else and being ironic and calling everyone VIM's. What you fail to realize is the dumbness of what you're trying to do, there are no nice words I can use to explain it. We were being ironic with you so that you could understand just how bad what you're trying to achieve is. You are being ironic with us because you think there's nothing wrong with logging in as root with telnet. There are a thousand ways I could go about explaining how bad it is and why it is bad, but in the end you'd just say I'm a VIM, so I won't even bother. Oh well, your server, your password. Just don't say you were not warned. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 16:31:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304A316A403 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from mail.barafranca.com (mail.barafranca.com [67.19.101.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9D813C4B7 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF54C4956; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.barafranca.com ([67.19.101.164]) by localhost (mail.barafranca.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29697-07; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (a213-22-26-111.cpe.netcabo.pt [213.22.26.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46621C4A54; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <45F42EEF.9070002@barafranca.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:31:43 +0000 From: Hugo Silva User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061007) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at barafranca.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-1 required=4 tests=[none] X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Sergio Lenzi Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:31:54 -0000 Sergio Lenzi wrote: > Hello... > > I see you issues about telenet... > > I use the inetd+telnet for more than 20 years and using BSD > with RSA, and obviiously with a good password. > > I have never been cracked down... > and I have 10 of my /etc/ttys entries setted to "secure" > > ttyp0 none network off secure > ttyp1 none network off secure > ttyp2 none network off secure > ttyp3 none network off secure > ttyp4 none network off secure > ttyp5 none network off secure > ttyp6 none network off secure > ttyp7 none network off secure > ttyp8 none network off secure > ttyp9 none network off secure > ttypa none network off secure > ttypb none network off secure > ttypc none network off secure > > in my /etc/master.passwd..... > root:*:0:0::0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh > > > a "kill -1 1" would allow root do dial in > > I block the root account in /etc/master.passwd by put a "*" as md5hash > and setted up an "supper" account..... > You could have just changed it's name, and the end result is exactly the same. If you have other services running in this server, there are various ways to figure out who has uid 0. Changing root's account or adding another uid 0 won't make it any harder. > pw adduser xxxxxxxxx -d /root -s /usr/local/bin/bash -u 0 -g 0 -h 0 > > Than is done... > > All the cracking I have seen is from someone that is INSIDE the machine > (http using php,pop,imap, ssh,...) that is you have yet allowed him to > come in, > you gave them the password (in the case of ssh), or in http... > > A "normal" FreeBSD 6.2 or an OpenBSD, is incredible solid... Indeed, that's exactly why it comes with sshd instead of telnetd and they both DO NOT allow root logins by default. > You must know the "superuser" login AND the password.... > With sshd and root logins off, you need to know your username's password/passphrase for DSA/RSA, you need to be in the right group so you can even attempt to become root, and you need the root password too. Ontop of all that, everything's encrypted. Please do not even TRY to compare. > choose a password with letters and numbers, or something in > portuguese (only 7 countries speak that): biruta22, pezinho12, > 45pinheiiros, > tovazioagora, batatinha744, 45canastra96..... > Spoken in: Angola, Brazil, Mozambique, Portugal, and several other CPLP countries Total speakers: Native: 210 million Total: 230 million Brilliant. > I tested in an security system and it says is have good security... > (pgp)... > I won't comment this. > Besides.. using brute force in a word like "itacolomi" using a 1 second > delay > would result ,,,, "forever" > Besides, BSD have the ability to force a new password once it is too > old... > a new password every 3 months is a good choice.... and you must stilll > pass through RSA . > > > Thanks for sharing the experience... now I know I am not the one that > uses "telenet" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 16:51:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08AE16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from susanthoffline@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B335F13C44B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from susanthoffline@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so1897744wri for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:51:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=W4ACbzEyfC85nszKDXJFz0n9y4brg+Zo/c7FEykO1E7Lx1ySjAupTE+QaQuykNLNE5SJR5gi2DtxkZ59QOVn1QVWW6U16aDVtHVNSDUTw9qHOvc8A6cTzAyoXbD9pmG9DdLQn9pTzOYp35g7XTRQyMIHzVTDMhRksL2AbkhmV/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=QmKZXHGpgXe2X6qGzdvptzK+ql6KmF9jHtaKnO/F0izq0rdG4QGxuFnMIp6k6rhmbkdP4dJwcMg0AuZEBGnrdc7v8SvBNkLDszgymg7E/KJ3QwSgSXR8vepaw3QAcgkVx4E9669Tyxmme1xcl8UKfiwYd1lwjCnwUHRy7RhvzdA= Received: by 10.90.65.11 with SMTP id n11mr2629789aga.1173631867156; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.97.17 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6faf55220703110951g63c92218p1b3865be3999047e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:21:07 +0530 From: "Susanth K" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: The FreeBSD's Implementation Language X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:51:07 -0000 Dear Friends, Is FreeBSD Completely Written in C ? Is there any part of OS written in C++ ? And I Guess GCC Compiler is used for compilation; ( Is it so ? ) Please correct me; if am not. Am new to FreeBSD; ( Sorry; if Any of u find this as a silly Question ) SUSANTH K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 17:12:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4405116A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B6413C44C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (adsl-65-69-141-175.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [65.69.141.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD992114313 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:14:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:12:11 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.7b1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========D47CEE76846768256DC8==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: root login with telnetd The FINAL SOLUTION X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:12:15 -0000 --==========D47CEE76846768256DC8========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On March 11, 2007 11:22:42 AM -0300 Sergio Lenzi =20 wrote: > > 7) telnet to your server > should now allow root login > What do you gain by allowing telnet access to your hosts that you don't=20 get with ssh? Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========D47CEE76846768256DC8==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 17:18:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C54416A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@cshw.net) Received: from gothmog.akp-net.com (gothmog.akp-net.com [194.126.172.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE55B13C44B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@cshw.net) Received: from p579a89dd.dip.t-dialin.net ([87.154.137.221] helo=ANGBAND) by gothmog.akp-net.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HQRI8-00016P-G3 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:53:06 +0100 From: "Alexander Schlichting" To: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:52:25 +0100 Message-ID: <035c01c763fd$b7341cf0$259c56d0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acdj/aUGrc7Od5RsQWGDp/QmhA/4hg== Content-Language: de Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: OpenSSH Problem with disconnects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:18:51 -0000 Hi, I am having a big problem with the OpenSSH Daemon on my server. Whenever I am connected to the server and the connection is idle for a few seconds it gets disconnected. It's almost impossible to work from remote on the server when the connection is always getting dropped. The server is running FreeBSD angmar.domain.com 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 and the SSHD installed by sysinstall OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110, OpenSSL 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004 . I tried a complete FreeBSD reinstall but it did not help, I tried various settings like KeepAlive TCPKeepAlive but they did not help either. I upgraded OpenSSL to 0.9.8e and I installed OpenSSH 4.6p1 but it did not solve the problem. When I run SSH with loglevel debug I see this in the auth.log when I am getting disconnected: Read error from remote host 192.168.2.100: Connection reset by peer . When I use strace to monitor the process I see this on disconnect 643 wait4(-1, [WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0], WNOHANG, NULL) = 4975 643 wait4(-1, 0xbfbfdc9c, WNOHANG, NULL) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes) 643 syscall_416(0x14, 0, 0xbfbfdc20) = 0 643 syscall_417(0xbfbfdcd0) = -1 (errno 4) 643 select(7, [3 4], NULL, NULL, NULL I tried to find information's about syscall_417 but had no luck with that. I am stuck here and have no idea what to do. When I am connected to the server by FTP I don't get disconnected when the connection is idle ( no nohup or so being sent ) and when I connect by Telnet I also don't get disconnected when the connection is idle. I am not sure if I should add the dmesg output here for sys specs or not. I don't do it now but can give it if needed. I installed Debian on another HDD of the server today and I am not having any problems there. No SSH disconnects all the time. Thanks for any help. -Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 17:53:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4411D16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9F113C457 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA8A1F7E6E for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:53:10 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: cqAk+dv3rpENeQo40NtOAC9AK3KdrR5QhdNdK7h0EpPi 1173635590 Received: from [10.51.77.87] (unknown [204.110.228.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246AD905 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45F433D1.40802@fastmail.fm> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:52:33 -0500 From: Patrick Bowen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Assemblers for FreBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:53:12 -0000 If one wanted to learn Assembly Language Programming, would he be better served starting with as(1) or nasm(1)? Also, are either of those applicable to AMD64, or just i386? TIA, Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:01:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832FB16A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-242.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0A013C448 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2BI1t4W013092 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:01:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:01:54 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:01:57 -0000 ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id like to try some of the lesser known, but still just as functional desktops. can i get some recommendations, as well as what graphical mail reader and web browser works best with your recommendation? thanks, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:09:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA1D16A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544CD13C458 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BI9q8Q036521; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:09:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BI9q1h036518; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:09:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:09:52 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Susanth K In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703110951g63c92218p1b3865be3999047e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070311190925.L36389@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <6faf55220703110951g63c92218p1b3865be3999047e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD's Implementation Language X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:09:52 -0000 > Dear Friends, > > Is FreeBSD Completely Written in C ? > > Is there any part of OS written in C++ ? see the sources. > > And I Guess GCC Compiler is used for compilation; ( Is it so ? ) > > Please correct me; if am not. > > Am new to FreeBSD; ( Sorry; if Any of u find this as a silly Question ) > you need answers to some kind of quiz or test... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:14:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584D716A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5606D13C459 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DC71F7465 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:14:37 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 6OR5RQz2M5CX/Lz3NGKGug0f6v6H4RtiEdeF1ecol967 1173636877 Received: from [10.51.77.87] (unknown [204.110.228.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAFB2A466 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45F438DC.8050508@fastmail.fm> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:14:04 -0500 From: Patrick Bowen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:14:38 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from > work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so > far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. > > id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id like to try > some of the lesser known, but still just as functional desktops. > > can i get some recommendations, as well as what graphical mail reader and web > browser works best with your recommendation? > > thanks, > jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Jonathan; Take a look at WindowMaker, or BlackBox if you want to get real minimal. Both are excellent window managers (not desktops) and can be found in ports. Firefox, Thunderbird, and all the rest work just fine. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:14:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19DF16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:14:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB30913C465 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:14:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (c-71-60-174-60.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.174.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D61EBC62; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:14:56 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Jonathan Horne Message-Id: <20070311141456.55c02ded.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.10 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:14:58 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > > ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from > work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so > far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. > > id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id like to try > some of the lesser known, but still just as functional desktops. > > can i get some recommendations, as well as what graphical mail reader and web > browser works best with your recommendation? I've been using xfce4 for quite a while. I like it because it's got everything I need, and not a lot of extra junk to get in my way (I find KDE and GNOME bloated) I use Sylpheed for mail and Firefox for web. HTH -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:28:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E15216A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:28:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from spunkymail-a18.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-177.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C0C13C4B9 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:28:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (68-184-120-224.dhcp.smyr.ga.charter.com [68.184.120.224]) by spunkymail-a18.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D66F5B52D; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:28:46 -0400 From: Sean Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:28:54 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from > work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so > far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. > > id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id like to try > some of the lesser known, but still just as functional desktops. > > can i get some recommendations, as well as what graphical mail reader and web > browser works best with your recommendation? > > thanks, > jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Check out http://www.enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/DR17/ It's in ports and its probably what you're looking for, fast, function and a fair bit of eyecandy. I honestly opt for Opera because its fast, functional and it has all the functionality I want built right in. As for mail, it seems Opera dropped the ball on IMAP support. It's utterly horrid in Opera 9. Because of this I go for thunderbird because it just works the way I want. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:33:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F9216A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426B613C46E for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HQSr1-0007MC-D8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:33:11 +0100 Received: from 89-172-241-50.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.241.50]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:33:11 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-241-50.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:33:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:33:02 +0100 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <6faf55220703110951g63c92218p1b3865be3999047e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA6865D61E80A33FDFF482D2C" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-241-50.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703110951g63c92218p1b3865be3999047e@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: The FreeBSD's Implementation Language X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:33:27 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA6865D61E80A33FDFF482D2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Susanth K wrote: > Dear Friends, >=20 > Is FreeBSD Completely Written in C ? Almost. The kernel and most parts are. > Is there any part of OS written in C++ ? There are some but there are not many of them. It's not a matter of policy but of the individual choice of a developer. > And I Guess GCC Compiler is used for compilation; ( Is it so ? ) Yes. --------------enigA6865D61E80A33FDFF482D2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF9EteldnAQVacBcgRAjatAJ9+S31biPw8OftUjqGMd6pZth7AfACg30U2 EzJrnlY6NPECSoMCtBE7L3s= =shVf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA6865D61E80A33FDFF482D2C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 18:41:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4457116A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DBC13C459 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HQSzO-000ASo-No; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:41:50 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20070311123142.A326032CD9@radish.jmason.org> References: <20070311123142.A326032CD9@radish.jmason.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2B018128-F951-41DF-8EFD-123119E9987C@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:41:48 -0600 To: Justin Mason X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:41:51 -0000 On Mar 11, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Justin Mason wrote: > > for what it's worth, I would suggest *not* adopting this > as an anti-spam technique. > > Sender-address verification is _bad_ as an anti-spam technique, in my > opinion. Basically, there's one obvious response for spammers > looking to > evade it -- use "real" sender addresses. Where's an easy place to find > real addresses? On the list of target addresses they're spamming! This is a red-herring. They already do that. They have been doing that for a long time. And it has nothing to do with sender verification. Sender verification works and works well. > > Hence, the spam recipients now get twice as much mail from each > spam run > -- spam aimed at them, *and* bounce blowback from hundreds of spams > aimed > at others, forged to appear to be from them. It's the obvious > response to > SAV, which is one reason why we never implemented something like > that in > SpamAssassin. Sorry, but you conclusion does not follow. Sender verification has been around for a while and this has not happened in my experience. Ie, there is no greater use of real FROM addresses than there was before. Most MTAs have in-built routines to do this, with exim having a particularly good facility for this. Technically, with exim's, you are actually validating the sending server's adherence to the RFCs about accept DSN replies back. Chad > > --j. > > Kelly Jones writes: >> To fight spam, I want to validate the address (not necessarily in >> real-time) of the a given email sender. Is there a Unix tool that >> does >> this? >> >> The basics are simple: to validate "kmnyqi@wnonline.net", I >> connect to >> the MX record of wnonline.net and go as far as "RCPT TO" as follows: >> >>> host -t mx wnonline.net >> wnonline.net mail is handled by 5 wnspf.bayou.com. >> >>> telnet wnspf.bayou.com. 25 >> Trying 209.209.192.75... >> Connected to wnspf.bayou.com.. >> Escape character is '^]'. >> 220 Welcome to Bayou mxfilter >> HELO domaintester.com >> 250 mxfilter.bayou.com >> MAIL FROM: >> 250 Ok >> RCPT TO: >> 550 : Recipient address rejected: 5.1.1 >> ... User unknown >> QUIT >> 221 Bye >> Connection closed by foreign host. >> >> This tells me kmnyqi@wnonline.net is an invalid address and that mail >> from that address is probably bogus. >> >> A more sophisticated tool would cache results, handle temporary >> failures (eg, inability to connect to the MX server), handle multiple >> MX records, perhaps even publish results [carefully, to avoid giving >> spammers a source of legit email addresses!], etc. Plus, I'd >> prefer to >> use a tested tool vs hacking something up myself. >> >> I realize this technique is far from perfect: >> >> Spammers spoof legit addresses >> >> Bounces/Mailing lists/etc legitimately use "do not reply" addresses >> >> It could be considered unfriendly to the target MX servers >> >> Some mail servers incorrectly say "user unknown" when they see spam, >> figuring it's more of a deterrent than saying "you're a spammer" >> >> Some mail servers inefficiently accept mail for "foo@xxx.com" (where >> xxx.com is one of their domains), figure out if foo exists later, and >> send a bounce back to the envelope sender, instead of rejecting email >> at the SMTP level (a really good tool would create throwaway >> addresses >> to catch these cases too) >> >> ... but I still think it might help. >> >> -- >> We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying >> to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to >> new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 19:24:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EC916A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: from web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6CC013C44C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92229 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Mar 2007 19:02:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=oN3USxxc8olwNEzbQ0QfRdmXU7gLUks5XvQGNRYY9rwIANICG7W5+0D/2xvNOsI4Mv7yGk7ZG5Ti6fwNJ2OASyK7nWhmLpCKYci2IS+NQwKM1An8j0Tl+2PyfG+Enyt8p5q0AOli60wISzAeuqmEHm6d0MYD29G7BI1IyPtluR0=; X-YMail-OSG: TmKMOIgVM1md2TV9lKSIeN3EfRlaMktXfDPfZtUIxUPpIuXQfnM1kCqe.Ycw5xdu1wUaFGLKaWhatfoMKp3TyLIHX.Jz4cakywyZMM2ZMWIxvRJ0.HZKjA-- Received: from [68.164.15.239] by web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:02:11 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Paulette McGee To: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <58343.88959.qm@web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:24:50 -0000 --- Jonathan Horne wrote: > ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. > this week, im off from > work, and want to spend some time trying something > new with my laptop. so > far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up > to the minimal desktop. > > id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or > basically id like to try > some of the lesser known, but still just as > functional desktops. > > can i get some recommendations, as well as what > graphical mail reader and web > browser works best with your recommendation? > > thanks, > jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello Jonathan, Here are a few questions: 1) Are you looking for a Desktop Environment (DE)? 2) Are you looking for a Window Manager (WM)? Here is a little blurb that describes the differences: http://xwinman.org/intro.php The above site also has a very comprehensive list of both DE's and WM's. Basically; decide if you want a very integrated environment or something less integrated . Personally; I prefer WM's over DE's. From that point; I select the applications that I want on my system. WM are basically very streamlined with few utilities (if any). Contrast that with Gnome or KDE; which come with an array of support tools (IE: browsers, file managers, printer configuration tools, system utilities, et al). In essence; it is a matter of choice. My vote is for Fluxbox (WM). PS: Keep in mind that some lines blur with DE and WMs. In my humble opinion some WM have a DE feel to them. explore the above link and see what strikes a chord. Regards, Paulette McGee ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 19:36:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F49B16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7FC13C4BE for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B411A4D83; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7DD7C51415; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:36:09 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Message-ID: <20070311193608.GA92584@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070311123142.A326032CD9@radish.jmason.org> <2B018128-F951-41DF-8EFD-123119E9987C@shire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2B018128-F951-41DF-8EFD-123119E9987C@shire.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Justin Mason , User Questions Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:36:10 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:41:48PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Mar 11, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Justin Mason wrote: > > > > >for what it's worth, I would suggest *not* adopting this > >as an anti-spam technique. > > > >Sender-address verification is _bad_ as an anti-spam technique, in my > >opinion. Basically, there's one obvious response for spammers > >looking to > >evade it -- use "real" sender addresses. Where's an easy place to find > >real addresses? On the list of target addresses they're spamming! > > This is a red-herring. They already do that. They have been doing > that for a long time. And it has nothing to do with sender > verification. > > Sender verification works and works well. I hate sender verification because it forces me (the sender) to jump through hoops just for the privilege of sending email to you. I send a lot of "courtesy" emails to e.g. port maintainers who have problems with their ports, and when I encounter someone with such a system I usually don't bother following up (their port just gets marked broken in the usual way, and they can follow up on it on their own if they want to). Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 19:43:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3201516A403 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249AC13C44B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HQTwy-000D7t-Ee; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:43:24 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20070311193608.GA92584@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070311123142.A326032CD9@radish.jmason.org> <2B018128-F951-41DF-8EFD-123119E9987C@shire.net> <20070311193608.GA92584@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:43:22 -0600 To: Kris Kennaway X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Justin Mason , User Questions Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:43:25 -0000 On Mar 11, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:41:48PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net > LLC wrote: >> >> On Mar 11, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Justin Mason wrote: >> >>> >>> for what it's worth, I would suggest *not* adopting this >>> as an anti-spam technique. >>> >>> Sender-address verification is _bad_ as an anti-spam technique, >>> in my >>> opinion. Basically, there's one obvious response for spammers >>> looking to >>> evade it -- use "real" sender addresses. Where's an easy place to >>> find >>> real addresses? On the list of target addresses they're spamming! >> >> This is a red-herring. They already do that. They have been doing >> that for a long time. And it has nothing to do with sender >> verification. >> >> Sender verification works and works well. > > I hate sender verification because it forces me (the sender) to jump > through hoops just for the privilege of sending email to you. No, it forces you to set up a correct RFC abiding system > I send > a lot of "courtesy" emails to e.g. port maintainers who have problems > with their ports, and when I encounter someone with such a system I > usually don't bother following up (their port just gets marked broken > in the usual way, and they can follow up on it on their own if they > want to). If your system is following the RFCs then you should have no problems. YOU should fix your broken system. Sending emails without a valid from address is disconsiderate. Why should I accept a mail from an account that violates the RFCs about accepting DSN back? Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 19:46:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CADC16A404 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B15E13C448 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:46:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773BF1A4D9A; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A2EF51375; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:46:50 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Message-ID: <20070311194650.GA92854@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070311123142.A326032CD9@radish.jmason.org> <2B018128-F951-41DF-8EFD-123119E9987C@shire.net> <20070311193608.GA92584@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Justin Mason , User Questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:46:52 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 01:43:22PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Mar 11, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:41:48PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net > >LLC wrote: > >> > >>On Mar 11, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Justin Mason wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>for what it's worth, I would suggest *not* adopting this > >>>as an anti-spam technique. > >>> > >>>Sender-address verification is _bad_ as an anti-spam technique, > >>>in my > >>>opinion. Basically, there's one obvious response for spammers > >>>looking to > >>>evade it -- use "real" sender addresses. Where's an easy place to > >>>find > >>>real addresses? On the list of target addresses they're spamming! > >> > >>This is a red-herring. They already do that. They have been doing > >>that for a long time. And it has nothing to do with sender > >>verification. > >> > >>Sender verification works and works well. > > > >I hate sender verification because it forces me (the sender) to jump > >through hoops just for the privilege of sending email to you. > > No, it forces you to set up a correct RFC abiding system > > >I send > >a lot of "courtesy" emails to e.g. port maintainers who have problems > >with their ports, and when I encounter someone with such a system I > >usually don't bother following up (their port just gets marked broken > >in the usual way, and they can follow up on it on their own if they > >want to). > > If your system is following the RFCs then you should have no > problems. YOU should fix your broken system. Sending emails without > a valid from address is disconsiderate. Why should I accept a mail > from an account that violates the RFCs about accepting DSN back? Perhaps we are talking about different things, I am talking about systems which send me an email back requiring me to do steps a, b or c in order to complete delivery of the email. kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 19:48:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ADC16A405; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4769C13C457; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E6568600E47; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kW1p2EThNzRh; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id C534C68600419; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:48:49 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20070311194849.GB881@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@FreeBSD.org References: <035c01c763fd$b7341cf0$259c56d0$@net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <035c01c763fd$b7341cf0$259c56d0$@net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Cc: Subject: Re: OpenSSH Problem with disconnects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:48:00 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007, Alexander Schlichting wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I am having a big problem with the OpenSSH Daemon on my server. Whenever I >am connected to the server and the connection is idle for a few seconds it >gets disconnected. It's almost impossible to work from remote on the server. It's been my experience that this has been related to NAT (Network Address Translation), IP masquerading or possibly other firewall settings, and may well not be FreeBSD specific. One of my customers had a problem like this in the last week or so and tracked it down to settings on their LinkSys BEFVP41 VPN router which had some firewall setting that caused ssh connections to drop (it wasn't NAT on this as I've not had this problem with other BEFVP41s). We ran all internal traffic through a Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 system, with a 2.4 Linux kernel with ipchains IP masquerading, and it would drop ssh connections after several minuted of inactivity (I would often run top on the remote system just to keep the connection alive when I wasn't doing something that would create activity). When we switched our border machine to a SLES9 machine with a 2.6 Linux kernel and iptables NAT the problem went away. There are also ssh_config and sshd_config parameters that relate to tcp timeouts and keep alive actions. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software, LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 ``I presume you all know who I am. I am humble Abraham Lincoln. I have been solicited by many friends to become a candidate for the legistlature. My politics are short and sweet, like the old woman's dance. I am in favor of a national bank ... in favor of the internal improvements system, and a high protective tariff.'' -- Abraham Lincoln, 1832 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 19:48:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ADC16A405; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4769C13C457; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E6568600E47; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kW1p2EThNzRh; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id C534C68600419; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:48:49 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20070311194849.GB881@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@FreeBSD.org References: <035c01c763fd$b7341cf0$259c56d0$@net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <035c01c763fd$b7341cf0$259c56d0$@net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Cc: Subject: Re: OpenSSH Problem with disconnects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:48:00 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007, Alexander Schlichting wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I am having a big problem with the OpenSSH Daemon on my server. Whenever I >am connected to the server and the connection is idle for a few seconds it >gets disconnected. It's almost impossible to work from remote on the server. It's been my experience that this has been related to NAT (Network Address Translation), IP masquerading or possibly other firewall settings, and may well not be FreeBSD specific. One of my customers had a problem like this in the last week or so and tracked it down to settings on their LinkSys BEFVP41 VPN router which had some firewall setting that caused ssh connections to drop (it wasn't NAT on this as I've not had this problem with other BEFVP41s). We ran all internal traffic through a Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 system, with a 2.4 Linux kernel with ipchains IP masquerading, and it would drop ssh connections after several minuted of inactivity (I would often run top on the remote system just to keep the connection alive when I wasn't doing something that would create activity). When we switched our border machine to a SLES9 machine with a 2.6 Linux kernel and iptables NAT the problem went away. There are also ssh_config and sshd_config parameters that relate to tcp timeouts and keep alive actions. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software, LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 ``I presume you all know who I am. I am humble Abraham Lincoln. I have been solicited by many friends to become a candidate for the legistlature. My politics are short and sweet, like the old woman's dance. I am in favor of a national bank ... in favor of the internal improvements system, and a high protective tariff.'' -- Abraham Lincoln, 1832 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 19:52:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2537A16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B3113C44C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so1877695ugh for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:52:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iew2GgX/3mCpFKeObKlJCm2TL+oB+NDdUVga8DU/V71+fmaRL6ojYIfYtOVTtG/PFohVTwawT+eLOmQgjv07vsauEvOiUlP277ZOp6IwyKqnGDEhHS6FKzUA+D8VvzYV8dJ7TJypdf5mXsIV/B+otdf5+snfVOVnjkOkGqqvJXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hRodg6kdKeA6EQUSEdmouxkneepB58t4J8z9De6f3nQPmnEyJXsW6q8EEo8qd9HAbtOWrsWlWppx6/mM82uKI0bHv862IEXqhlaxQnJqgZKTuOxLw3057twJ1+5xIq7bjg47FHbnu4qMDuYsGTUbg9cTBhNiqYkLdNq3Em7qcZ4= Received: by 10.70.122.11 with SMTP id u11mr8676726wxc.1173642758470; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.14.15 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14989d6e0703111252o4ad438ddw5bde5916e0e6b396@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:52:38 +0000 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20070311132239.W98425@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311081618.F66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F3DF87.1090503@thingy.com> <20070311120541.Y90539@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F3E7E6.6060908@thingy.com> <20070311132239.W98425@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] [freebsd-questions] root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:52:41 -0000 On 11/03/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > There have been *many* problems over the years with rsh and telnet. rsh's > > security model comes from a time when people thought computers would never > > exactly true. so i use rsh between MY machines and rsh and telnet when > sniffing is not a problem. > > wasn't easier just to answer the question? Well, no offense ment, but there are many people posting questions to this list, and some of them aren't aware of potential security problems of actions they want to perform. So generally if a question with a potential harmfull consequence is asked people are told of these fact, because noone here on this list can guess if it is known, or not. Wouldn't it have been easier for you to tell people on this list that you are aware of the problems? I mean, instead of getting rude? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 19:56:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C535516A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9BA13C45A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id D6037471836 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:56:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BD0313867C3 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:56:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Sun Mar 11 20:56:30 2007 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF0C38678A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:56:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from TX2.Go2France.com [66.90.247.9] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AAE41A5200C4; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:39:16 +0100 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:56:19 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <20070311194650.GA92854@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070311123142.A326032CD9@radish.jmason.org> <2B018128-F951-41DF-8EFD-123119E9987C@shire.net> <20070311193608.GA92584@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070311194650.GA92854@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20070311203962.SM03288@TX2.Go2France.com> Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:56:23 -0000 >Perhaps we are talking about different things, I am talking about >systems which send me an email back requiring me to do steps a, b or c >in order to complete delivery of the email. that's challenge/response, which has been widely discredited for years. SAV is a receiving MX probing the MX of sender@domain.tld for verification of sender as known recipient. Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 19:58:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A1916A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17ADF13C44C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HQUBp-000Dlk-L9; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:58:45 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20070311194443.26033.qmail@simone.iecc.com> References: <20070311194443.26033.qmail@simone.iecc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:58:44 -0600 To: John Levine X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:58:46 -0000 On Mar 11, 2007, at 1:44 PM, John Levine wrote: >> Sender verification works and works well. > > I suppose that if you define "works" to include mailbombing innocent > third parties, then that might be true. > > I have some fairly heavily forged domains, and on a bad day I see > upwards of 300,000 connections from bounces, "validation", and the > like attacking the little BSD box under my desk where the MTA is. > Gee, thanks a lot. Verification has nothing to do with bounces and mail bombs. You may get some traffic from verification but you would need to separate that out from the rest which is unrelated before you have a meaningful statistic. > >> Sorry, but you conclusion does not follow. Sender verification has >> been around for a while and this has not happened in my experience. >> Ie, there is no greater use of real FROM addresses than there was >> before. > > What planet have you been on? A few years back spam return addresses > were typically complete fakes in nonexistent domains. Now they're > picked out of the same victim lists as the targets. They have been doing that for ages. I run a hosting service and have had that problem way before sender verification became in vogue. > > I've had to locally blacklist a few places specifically because of > all of their abusive verification. If that's what you want, well ... That is up to you. If you claim to handle mail services for a certain domain, that includes verifying that mail is from you or not. YOU are responsible for the mail sent with your domain on it. > > Oh, and the way my MTA is set up, a verification callback doesn't > work. But that doesn't keep the clueless from trying. That is your business. But you are in violation of the RFCs Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:00:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4703916A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323CC13C468 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HQUDC-000Dx6-Fc; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:00:10 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20070311194650.GA92854@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070311123142.A326032CD9@radish.jmason.org> <2B018128-F951-41DF-8EFD-123119E9987C@shire.net> <20070311193608.GA92584@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070311194650.GA92854@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <63F5EA49-DF46-4795-AB00-D81C2E26762E@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:00:04 -0600 To: Kris Kennaway X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:00:13 -0000 On Mar 11, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 01:43:22PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net > LLC wrote: >> >> On Mar 11, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:41:48PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net >>> LLC wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mar 11, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Justin Mason wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> for what it's worth, I would suggest *not* adopting this >>>>> as an anti-spam technique. >>>>> >>>>> Sender-address verification is _bad_ as an anti-spam technique, >>>>> in my >>>>> opinion. Basically, there's one obvious response for spammers >>>>> looking to >>>>> evade it -- use "real" sender addresses. Where's an easy place to >>>>> find >>>>> real addresses? On the list of target addresses they're spamming! >>>> >>>> This is a red-herring. They already do that. They have been doing >>>> that for a long time. And it has nothing to do with sender >>>> verification. >>>> >>>> Sender verification works and works well. >>> >>> I hate sender verification because it forces me (the sender) to jump >>> through hoops just for the privilege of sending email to you. >> >> No, it forces you to set up a correct RFC abiding system >> >>> I send >>> a lot of "courtesy" emails to e.g. port maintainers who have >>> problems >>> with their ports, and when I encounter someone with such a system I >>> usually don't bother following up (their port just gets marked >>> broken >>> in the usual way, and they can follow up on it on their own if they >>> want to). >> >> If your system is following the RFCs then you should have no >> problems. YOU should fix your broken system. Sending emails without >> a valid from address is disconsiderate. Why should I accept a mail >> from an account that violates the RFCs about accepting DSN back? > > Perhaps we are talking about different things, I am talking about > systems which send me an email back requiring me to do steps a, b or c > in order to complete delivery of the email. No, we are talking about the MTA verifying that the sender address is a real address that can accept either mail back or at least a properly formatted DSN back. The things you talk about ARE a PITA and I usually ignore them unless the person is wanting to give me money... (Ie a customer who placed an order with another business I run for example). Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:08:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A456B16A403 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=0583ff2bdd@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [208.31.42.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0356613C458 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=0583ff2bdd@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 49672 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2007 20:08:29 -0000 Received: from simone.iecc.com (208.31.42.47) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 11 Mar 2007 20:08:29 -0000 Date: 11 Mar 2007 20:08:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> From: John Levine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Organization: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: chad@shire.net Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:08:36 -0000 >> I have some fairly heavily forged domains, and on a bad day I see >> upwards of 300,000 connections from bounces, "validation", and the >> like attacking the little BSD box under my desk where the MTA is. >> Gee, thanks a lot. > >Verification has nothing to do with bounces and mail bombs. You may >get some traffic from verification but you would need to separate >that out from the rest which is unrelated before you have a >meaningful statistic. I have, it's meaningful. Verizon is the worst offender, but at least they put their attack hosts in a separate easy to block IP range. >> What planet have you been on? A few years back spam return addresses >> were typically complete fakes in nonexistent domains. Now they're >> picked out of the same victim lists as the targets. > >They have been doing that for ages. I run a hosting service and have >had that problem way before sender verification became in vogue. Definitely different planets. Bye. R's, John PS: >> YOU are responsible for the mail sent with your domain on it. Oh, OK. So when someone sends out mail with your forged return address saying "buy this worthless stock, then get your kiddy porn here", you will report directly to jail without complaining, right? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:10:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77B716A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A149313C46A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so1927459wri for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.52.18 with SMTP id z18mr2933116agz.1173643817896; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 34sm6937078wra.2007.03.11.13.10.17; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:10:05 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070311161005.58928e7f@localhost> In-Reply-To: <45F42C33.7000402@barafranca.com> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F32BA7.1000704@daleco.biz> <20070311081232.I66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F42C33.7000402@barafranca.com> Organization: Seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_2_UtmETdIWrfwNBFRp+KPo8; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:10:18 -0000 --Sig_2_UtmETdIWrfwNBFRp+KPo8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:20:03 +0000 Hugo Silva wrote: [...] > Oh well, your server, your password. Just don't say you were not > warned. I believe the following sums up my feeling on the matter. It is not the OS's job to stop you from shooting yourself in the foot. Rather, if you so choose to do so, then it is the OS's job to deliver Mr. Bullet to Mr. Foot in the most efficient manner possible. --=20 Gerard "The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location ... and I'm not even too sure about that one" Dennis Huges, F.B.I. --Sig_2_UtmETdIWrfwNBFRp+KPo8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF9GInFCqdq4D1ybYRAskzAKDahyaxAnE3d5F3PgX0zo4VHdvPIgCgnjcx nhDkZVW/7C6pbXitdLGMB5Y= =3dI5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_2_UtmETdIWrfwNBFRp+KPo8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:11:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EEA16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=0583ff2bdd@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [208.31.42.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A376013C489 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=0583ff2bdd@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 19065 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2007 19:44:43 -0000 Received: from simone.iecc.com (208.31.42.47) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 11 Mar 2007 19:44:43 -0000 Date: 11 Mar 2007 19:44:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20070311194443.26033.qmail@simone.iecc.com> From: John Levine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2B018128-F951-41DF-8EFD-123119E9987C@shire.net> Organization: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: chad@shire.net Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:11:26 -0000 >Sender verification works and works well. I suppose that if you define "works" to include mailbombing innocent third parties, then that might be true. I have some fairly heavily forged domains, and on a bad day I see upwards of 300,000 connections from bounces, "validation", and the like attacking the little BSD box under my desk where the MTA is. Gee, thanks a lot. >Sorry, but you conclusion does not follow. Sender verification has >been around for a while and this has not happened in my experience. >Ie, there is no greater use of real FROM addresses than there was >before. What planet have you been on? A few years back spam return addresses were typically complete fakes in nonexistent domains. Now they're picked out of the same victim lists as the targets. I've had to locally blacklist a few places specifically because of all of their abusive verification. If that's what you want, well ... Oh, and the way my MTA is set up, a verification callback doesn't work. But that doesn't keep the clueless from trying. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:12:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F111116A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@kendallnet.co.uk) Received: from smtp3.freeserve.com (smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk [193.252.22.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E7413C4AD for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@kendallnet.co.uk) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3213.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8DBADB00008A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:12:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from andypc2 (user-54471877.wfd83a.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.71.24.119]) by mwinf3213.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3DA3EB000084 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:12:54 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070311201254252.3DA3EB000084@mwinf3213.me.freeserve.com From: "Andy Kendall" To: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:12:54 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c76419$a7bfe6c0$4a074c0a@andypc2> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdkGadZfi80EWr5QBOJhlg058YMPA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Manual updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:12:56 -0000 As a newb to FreeBSD I find that the manual/handbook is not great in detail, (understatement), and I seem to be relying on this questions list for a lot of help. In my opinion it relies on far too high a plateau of knowledge by it's readers to be of initial use. Am I really that thick or does anyone else feel this way? Do the email list respondents find themselves answering the same questions over and over? Is there some way I can help to upgrade the manual entries with the detail I find necessary to get things working and understand how they work, thereby hopefully benefiting following newbs? Is there a FreeBSD for dummies? Thanks Andy (very frustrated) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:29:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1168616A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FFD13C448 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HQUfj-000F5R-9r; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:29:39 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> References: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:29:38 -0600 To: John Levine X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:29:40 -0000 On Mar 11, 2007, at 2:08 PM, John Levine wrote: >>> I have some fairly heavily forged domains, and on a bad day I see >>> upwards of 300,000 connections from bounces, "validation", and the >>> like attacking the little BSD box under my desk where the MTA is. >>> Gee, thanks a lot. >> >> Verification has nothing to do with bounces and mail bombs. You may >> get some traffic from verification but you would need to separate >> that out from the rest which is unrelated before you have a >> meaningful statistic. > > I have, it's meaningful. Verizon is the worst offender, but at least > they put their attack hosts in a separate easy to block IP range. Amazing, as I run mail for lots of domains, and replying to sender verification is almost a nonexistent load compared to the mail bombs and bounces etc. Show me your numbers. > >>> What planet have you been on? A few years back spam return >>> addresses >>> were typically complete fakes in nonexistent domains. Now they're >>> picked out of the same victim lists as the targets. >> >> They have been doing that for ages. I run a hosting service and have >> had that problem way before sender verification became in vogue. > > Definitely different planets. Bye. When you come back to earth, let us know :-) > > R's, > John > > PS: > >>> YOU are responsible for the mail sent with your domain on it. > > Oh, OK. So when someone sends out mail with your forged return > address saying "buy this worthless stock, then get your kiddy porn > here", you will report directly to jail without complaining, right? I phrased it wrong. You are not responsible for the content, but you are responsible for the mail domain and that includes verifying that mail is validly from your domain you are responsible for. email is a cooperative service where all people promise to expend resources to make it work, and to follow the RFCs. If you block valid verification, you are abrogating your responsibility to the rest of the net to cooperate in the exchange of email and you are breaking the RFCs. (valid verification includes checking that the sender can accept a proper DSN back, which is required of the sender to do). Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:36:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C31816A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djdexter@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2819513C458 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djdexter@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so1781147muf for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:36:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kRlG5WTdUFRK8ggPU3r78DDz2VNjUiJK52eFbsP6e55nCb7i15Sg5PJyLXJMhEx/2SdhsrYUdYFqjSVFKpvcoXnHdNvJMIxkDM99Ec7UTRecZpmSJ6H6BiDsiRYMHiiMEUWCnIAUCeJCec8DQoUIHQTzqCNFCwa/UT+uTaHehxo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NVNE1MAikJoEXmOInXnbQPn/q95R/bcL25QpnrEaw/KkoPxkp/1gErkJD8fD2zM03wpC1Rmr6o/QqNhR1Qc3ydLwFjLJNzaUOwIrbvmm3cPJz2A9NYqOJVABnvSXVgGvzm+3XIFi4G7dkHN2v0L52atdlJd4Q5vRJ70NnLc6HY4= Received: by 10.82.152.16 with SMTP id z16mr7073320bud.1173645375896; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.108.4 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:36:15 -0400 From: dex To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <000001c76419$a7bfe6c0$4a074c0a@andypc2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000001c76419$a7bfe6c0$4a074c0a@andypc2> Subject: Re: Manual updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:36:17 -0000 On 3/11/07, Andy Kendall wrote: > As a newb to FreeBSD I find that the manual/handbook is not great in detail, > (understatement), and I seem to be relying on this questions list for a lot > of help. > In my opinion it relies on far too high a plateau of knowledge by it's > readers to be of initial use. > Am I really that thick or does anyone else feel this way? > Do the email list respondents find themselves answering the same questions > over and over? > Is there some way I can help to upgrade the manual entries with the detail I > find necessary to get things working and understand how they work, thereby > hopefully benefiting following newbs? > Is there a FreeBSD for dummies? I agree. I've been using FreeBSD for more than 7 years. I love it, but it has taken me a while to get to this point. Others I know also have trouble with it initially. A lot of that is due to the installer and what they find on www.freebsd.org. I think the reason for that is most of the core people spend most of their time in the core of the system, since most users are people who have been using unix for a long time and so already know a lot about it. With that said (typed), I think it has steadily improved. If you have some time to spare, you can join the documentation project - http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/who.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:45:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDC716A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B2613C45B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from [66.180.132.238] (unknown [66.180.132.238]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317785C1F; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:45:30 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <45F46A6A.7070400@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:45:30 -1000 From: NetOpsCenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060417 FreeBSD/i386 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Bowen References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F438DC.8050508@fastmail.fm> In-Reply-To: <45F438DC.8050508@fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:45:31 -0000 Patrick Bowen wrote: > Jonathan Horne wrote: > >> ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off >> from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my >> laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to >> the minimal desktop. >> >> id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id like >> to try some of the lesser known, but still just as functional desktops. >> >> can i get some recommendations, as well as what graphical mail reader >> and web browser works best with your recommendation? >> >> thanks, >> jonathan >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > Jonathan; > > Take a look at WindowMaker, or BlackBox if you want to get real > minimal. Both are excellent window managers (not desktops) and can be > found in ports. Firefox, Thunderbird, and all the rest work just fine. > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Jonathan, I have used XFCE 3.* on all my free BSD boxes for years. It is a Simple GUI which I use on any Desktops I build. The video is clear and is simple. ( XFCE4* I did not like the concept.) Emails etc all work and install easily from ports. Aloha, ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:45:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BB116A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A38F13C457 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BKjeQR052266; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:45:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BKjc7B052263; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:45:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:45:38 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Jonathan Horne In-Reply-To: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Message-ID: <20070311214419.F52046@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:45:52 -0000 > ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from > work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so > far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. you should first define what "desktop" is. i use xorg+fvwm2 with much modified (cut down) configuration, having most of things attached to keys. > can i get some recommendations, as well as what graphical mail reader and web > browser works best with your recommendation? i use opera and links. for mail i use text-mode pine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:46:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CFC16A405 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E2213C487 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BKkogT052396; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:46:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BKkoUf052393; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:46:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:46:50 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Gerard Seibert In-Reply-To: <20070311161005.58928e7f@localhost> Message-ID: <20070311214626.H52046@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F32BA7.1000704@daleco.biz> <20070311081232.I66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F42C33.7000402@barafranca.com> <20070311161005.58928e7f@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:46:50 -0000 > I believe the following sums up my feeling on the matter. > > It is not the OS's job to stop you from shooting yourself in the foot. boom... i'm dead.. at least for 4 years :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:47:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1248A16A403 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FE413C487 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BKlafX052507; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:47:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BKlai8052504; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:47:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:47:36 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Andy Kendall In-Reply-To: <000001c76419$a7bfe6c0$4a074c0a@andypc2> Message-ID: <20070311214721.O52046@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <000001c76419$a7bfe6c0$4a074c0a@andypc2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Manual updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:47:36 -0000 > As a newb to FreeBSD I find that the manual/handbook is not great in detail, > (understatement), and I seem to be relying on this questions list for a lot > of help. what's missing? i think it's quite detailed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:53:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B3416A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:53:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D9813C459 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:53:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 5633F37E46; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:53:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3235380FF; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:52:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81-231-90-251-no41.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.90.251]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D19337E47; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:52:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F46BAD.6030307@passagen.se> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:50:53 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:53:01 -0000 Hello Jonathan, I had great help from this mailing list setting up wdm+fluxbox recently. They're minimalistic and slick to use. If you should need to connect with a windows box there's Xming. Look in the archives! Good luck! Jonathan Horne skrev: > ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from > work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so > far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. > > id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id like to try > some of the lesser known, but still just as functional desktops. > > can i get some recommendations, as well as what graphical mail reader and web > browser works best with your recommendation? > > thanks, > jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:55:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C417916A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=0583ff2bdd@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [208.31.42.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4299B13C45A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=0583ff2bdd@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 6422 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2007 20:55:22 -0000 Received: from simone.iecc.com (208.31.42.47) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 11 Mar 2007 20:55:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Mar 2007 20:55:22 -0000 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:55:21 -0400 (EDT) From: John L To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> Message-ID: <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> References: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:55:23 -0000 > I phrased it wrong. You are not responsible for the content, but you are > responsible for the mail domain and that includes verifying that mail is > validly from your domain you are responsible for. Oh, OK. So if someone sends pump and dump with a chad@shire.net return address, and I do a callback and your MTA says "yup! that's a 100% valid address!" then I turn you in to the SEC, rignt? You have now confirmed that the mail is from you, after all. Or if you haven't, what purpose did the callback serve? There is some reasonable validation technology coming along, most notably DKIM which which I presume you are familiar. But callbacks are not it. > and you are breaking the RFCs. (valid verification includes checking that > the sender can accept a proper DSN back, which is required of the sender to > do). Uh huh. Which RFC is this that says I have to permit a fake partial DSN transaction? If you have a DSN, send it. If you don't, don't. Don't forget that the From: line address need not be the same as the bounce address; in my mail it never is. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 20:59:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A5316A403 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from sipserver.k1.com.br (customer-200195195217.idc.onda.com.br [200.195.195.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D557613C458 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from k1.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sipserver.k1.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2BI61nP032489 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:59:40 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (k1.com.br) Received: from [201.21.172.89] (authenticated as lenzi) by k1.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 11 Mar 2007 20:59:39 -0000 From: Sergio Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:59:38 -0300 Message-Id: <1173646778.3731.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:59:42 -0000 > What do you gain by allowing telnet access to your hosts that you don't > get with ssh? > > Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) > Senior Information Security Analyst > The University of Texas at Dallas > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ > > --=========7CEE76846768256DC8==========-- > !DSPAM:3,45f438e7216243993713574! May be I am an incurable romantic from the old times that likes "telnet", sendmail, finger... daytime... bsd lpr.... and never give up from BSD, I use it since 1.0 release... I agree that ssh is better, etc... etc... but I still use sendmail and telnet... Once I setted up a mailserver with more that 2000 users with a single freebsd sendmail in a small machine (1Ghz,512Mb memory, Freebsd 4.X) one internet connection.. with virtual users, mailertable... and it worked for years... by the way... it had telnetd avaiable... Welll.... Have anyone yet "cracked" the telnet enable machine whose IP was published in the list? I remember some time ago a machine named "Coen....." who challenged anynone crack it... she published the address, the login and the password... and in addition, she said there were a "bug" in the system... Well.... if I remember, the machine stayed alive for several months with all the hackers, crackers, and xxxckers.... hitting it... It was FreeBSD 5.X series.... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 21:03:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47F516A46D for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548A313C46E for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so1892419ugh for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.67.10 with SMTP id p10mr8764719wxa.1173647024718; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i13sm5046573wxd.2007.03.11.14.03.43; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:03:41 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070311170341.3f3c5ae9@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070311214626.H52046@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F32BA7.1000704@daleco.biz> <20070311081232.I66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F42C33.7000402@barafranca.com> <20070311161005.58928e7f@localhost> <20070311214626.H52046@chylonia.3miasto.net> Organization: Seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_D5pK6g1NbR7XLjJ2rQixHik; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:03:46 -0000 --Sig_D5pK6g1NbR7XLjJ2rQixHik Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:46:50 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > I believe the following sums up my feeling on the matter. > > > > It is not the OS's job to stop you from shooting yourself in the > > foot. =20 >=20 > boom... i'm dead.. > at least for 4 years :) Sorry to hear that! ... ;::::; ;::::; :; ;:::::' :; ;:::::; ;. ,:::::' ; OOO\ ::::::; ; OOOOO\ ;:::::; ; OOOOOOOO ,;::::::; ;' / OOOOOOO ;:::::::::`. ,,,;. / / DOOOOOO .';:::::::::::::::::;, / / DOOOO ,::::::;::::::;;;;::::;, / / DOOO ;`::::::`'::::::;;;::::: ,#/ / DOOO :`:::::::`;::::::;;::: ;::# / DOOO ::`:::::::`;:::::::: ;::::# / DOO `:`:::::::`;:::::: ;::::::#/ DOO :::`:::::::`;; ;:::::::::## OO ::::`:::::::`;::::::::;:::# OO `:::::`::::::::::::;'`:;::# O `:::::`::::::::;' / / `:# ::::::`:::::;' / / `# --=20 Gerard Don't crush that dwarf, hand me the pliers! Firesign Theatre --Sig_D5pK6g1NbR7XLjJ2rQixHik Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF9G6tFCqdq4D1ybYRAl29AJ9+MRoQ/JqxQ6KH0iI2ldT8IIyvygCfbcHk jgXaFXfPa1eBMgInZEkGJhI= =AOYV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_D5pK6g1NbR7XLjJ2rQixHik-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 21:12:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9920316A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C7513C487 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HQVLa-000Gsd-UU; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:12:55 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> References: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3A34E823-ECE3-4CE9-AD0B-84580699CF41@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:12:53 -0600 To: John L X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:12:55 -0000 On Mar 11, 2007, at 2:55 PM, John L wrote: >> I phrased it wrong. You are not responsible for the content, but >> you are responsible for the mail domain and that includes >> verifying that mail is validly from your domain you are >> responsible for. > > Oh, OK. So if someone sends pump and dump with a chad@shire.net > return address, and I do a callback and your MTA says "yup! that's > a 100% valid address!" then I turn you in to the SEC, rignt? You do know what the SEC is, right? > You have now confirmed that the mail is from you, after all. No, it only confirms that the sender address is an actual address. > Or if you haven't, what purpose did the callback serve? > It served to identify that it is possible a valid email. A failure is almost definitely a non valid email. It is a test which helps determine whether to accept it. We have a policy of not accepting mail from people who cannot accept DSNs back. That does not mean we give a blanket pass to those who pass address verification. > There is some reasonable validation technology coming along, most > notably DKIM which which I presume you are familiar. But callbacks > are not it. Callbacks are one tool in the toolbox. Maybe someday there will be better tools and we can retire address verification. Callbacks, at this point in time, work very well for differentiating a large amount of non valid mail from a smaller pool of possibly valid mail. DKIM is interesting and I am watching it. I am in the process of adding some support for it btw, both for our authorized senders, as well as in our receive phase. For example, we are considering not doing address verification on incoming mail that has a valid DKIM signature. > > >> and you are breaking the RFCs. (valid verification includes >> checking that the sender can accept a proper DSN back, which is >> required of the sender to do). > > Uh huh. Which RFC is this that says I have to permit a fake > partial DSN transaction? If you have a DSN, send it. If you > don't, don't. The RFCs require you to accept back DSNs. Testing that you do is a valid test to see if I am talking with a valid sender -- one who implements the RFCs and is not a rogue internet user who does not cooperate in the exchange of emails according to the agreed standards. Show me some real verifiable numbers that show that verification traffic to your box is a significant portion of the otherwise bad traffic of mail bombs, bounces, etc. On my system, and we support a lot of mail domains, some of which (now or in recent past) we "big name" domains that had a lot of exposure. Address verification traffic has always been small compared to our overall load. You are complaining about a non issue. I can say that address verification helps us reject the lion's share of spam we receive without having to process it further. Chad > > Don't forget that the From: line address need not be the same as > the bounce address; in my mail it never is. > > R's, > John --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 21:13:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F029116A404 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE1313C468 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 3197B471882 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:13:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 22EF238681E for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:13:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Sun Mar 11 22:13:58 2007 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B1338681B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:13:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from TX2.Go2France.com [66.90.247.9] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AD0B1D9D00C4; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:56:43 +0100 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:13:47 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20070311215693.SM03288@TX2.Go2France.com> Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:13:51 -0000 >onfirmed that the mail is from you, after all No. His MX has only verified his email address, which does not say he sent the msg. Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 21:18:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC7016A405 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.alexander@msn.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s32.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s32.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2657413C465 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.alexander@msn.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.224.20]) by bay0-omc2-s32.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:06:11 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:06:11 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.224.200 by by105fd.bay105.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:06:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [71.38.89.244] X-Originating-Email: [dan.alexander@msn.com] X-Sender: dan.alexander@msn.com From: "DANNY ALEXANDER" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:06:07 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2007 21:06:11.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[18CF36C0:01C76421] Cc: Subject: Sound Driver for REALTEK ALC660 ON BOARD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:18:12 -0000 I'm looking for the driver files for the Realtek ALC660 onboard sound card. I'm using an ASUS M2V and it works great. Except the sound. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 21:21:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3434D16A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1301513C4B9 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from pd4mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr6so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.69]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JER009C19V6LX90@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:21:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.148]) by pd4mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JER00LYM9V6RZX0@pd4mr6so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:21:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from proven. 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(8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2BKL4G4061273 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:21:04 -0700 (PDT envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:21:03 -0700 From: Norbert Papke In-reply-to: <035c01c763fd$b7341cf0$259c56d0$@net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200703111321.04229.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> Organization: Archaeological Filing MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <035c01c763fd$b7341cf0$259c56d0$@net> X-Authentication-warning: proven.: npapke set sender to fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca using -f User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Subject: Re: OpenSSH Problem with disconnects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:21:59 -0000 On Sunday 11 March 2007 09:52, Alexander Schlichting wrote: > I am having a big problem with the OpenSSH Daemon on my server. Whenever I > am connected to the server and the connection is idle for a few seconds it > gets disconnected. It's almost impossible to work from remote on the server > when the connection is always getting dropped. It is likely related to something in your network path dropping the connection when it is idle. Try the following in your server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config file. ClientAliveInterval 30 ClientAliveCountMax 10 Note that TCP keep-alives usually don't help in this situation because their interval is too large. Cheers. -- Norbert. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 21:35:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DA916A404 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: from web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E37813C468 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 2249 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Mar 2007 21:35:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=nXX7afOYTq1fpYzTxH17KEs5UpZRK9axsGJ1bWxqGbJtonm/HYu9TrK/sx7RxM/GMCmPz9RUOGgz08rzDk1kDtLCOj3u1rBNSgmMUuJiWwAoMzNtp27CDYOjCu+A7dowsVs9uxa7aOKglzfmZq/uHRkABGw0OUNwhTsvNDkhQQ0=; X-YMail-OSG: anhSVrgVM1kqRcJXTnkQ32Cm.qtphxnh699f3ouCXQ.71Cu.hGsO0cc8QjF0G0R.oG5Lk2MuXy2fIeT5lLuLuRWOhIE0GFr40bgP2HWRiZclpujEB83TXDeirnQVzv7h Received: from [68.164.15.239] by web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:35:42 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:35:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Paulette McGee To: Wojciech Puchar , Andy Kendall In-Reply-To: <20070311214721.O52046@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <765930.99936.qm@web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Manual updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:35:43 -0000 --- Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > As a newb to FreeBSD I find that the > manual/handbook is not great in detail, > > (understatement), and I seem to be relying on this > questions list for a lot > > of help. > > what's missing? i think it's quite detailed > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello Wojciech, Yes, the handbook is quite detailed; however there are somethings missing. Not to start a flame war; these are just a few thoughts and they are in my humble opinion. 1) Upgrading Ports: There is a general overview of how ports should be upgraded. Now the part that is lacking is the index. Looking at section 4.5 in the handbook there is no mention of the INDEX files. Some update tools like portupgrade require the use of the INDEX file. You don't see the mention of the INDEX until you get to section A.6. Section A.6 is dedicated to portsnap. Now if the user doesn't use port snap but cvs; then they miss that point that you need the INDEX. Now getting or building the INDEX can be done if various ways via make or portsdb. But it my humble opinion; the explanation or the process can be explained better. Please correct me if I am wrong (anyone) but a simple out line that goes into the process (IE): 1) Update ports 1a) CVS 2b) portsnap 2) Build INDEX (depends on the tool; identify tools). Also what are the pro's and con's of obtaining the index from the methods listed below. 2a) "make index" 2b) "make fetchindex" 2c) portsdb -Uu 3) Use Tool 'X' to update / upgrade your ports The above is just a brief illustration about how the process can be improved. Please understand that this is my humble opinion; I am not looking to start a flame war. Now, one other issue; off the top of my head: pkgtools.conf. How does pkgtools.conf interact with the makefile in their respective ports directory? 1) Does it completely override it? 2) Does if it take a diff between the two and build the app? Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread. All I wanted to do was answer the question as well as point out what I think could be improved. PS: I wish the old section of the handbook "the anatomy of a port" was put back in the handbook. Just my .02 cents worth. Regards, Paulette McGee ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. 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TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 21:58:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA5316A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA4713C455 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1125993ana for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:58:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b1POJ8gAr8D7P+22BoMltGZZED45blNVfcxZ7Hu2K5tggWMYTrWg4bCduNiifnklAOU/budojxwWFAO/OaxUIZzgyaGCZ2WRVs781oThp9K+3eXo3Boy9ZG4di2P6z1gFMVJvsZoNS+DzsxVG9bMY6w9k8qED8FZenmqRaF70uI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tnWnUBkJfCA1fZd1v52NzxRc6hTv8CP3rj1Go764LsGfyZRYOSoF2IeNEnpVB/Luu2LjEBV+KuiUZB2/+bIY4Z0nSVkhEUEyfOxIL6zsqX/DZQOjxtoGsSDPQA1PwhNu0MpJW4z06CYanDnz2cdPwNYk1i61wk9pVCwvAzIUJqA= Received: by 10.114.13.1 with SMTP id 1mr1039643wam.1173650324785; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.56.10 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260703111458w11f31b71se2a3134d18e624a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:58:44 +0000 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Sergio Lenzi" In-Reply-To: <1173646778.3731.2.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> <1173646778.3731.2.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:58:46 -0000 On 11/03/07, Sergio Lenzi wrote: > > > > > What do you gain by allowing telnet access to your hosts that you don't > > get with ssh? > > > > Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) > > Senior Information Security Analyst > > The University of Texas at Dallas > > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ > > > > --=========7CEE76846768256DC8==========-- > > !DSPAM:3,45f438e7216243993713574! > > > May be I am an incurable romantic from the old times > that likes "telnet", sendmail, finger... daytime... bsd lpr.... > and never give up from BSD, I use it since 1.0 release... Maybe you are, but even so, do you still use V7 on a PDP/11 or 32V on a VAX, make dumps to DECtape, or use a VT100? There's something to be said for modern PC hardware, xterms/gnome-terminal/konsole/screen, and yes, ssh. (Namely speed, convenience, and security, respectively). I went through a stage of using Linux with xman, xeyes, xterm, twm, etc., until I realised I was much more productive using KDE help and konsole/screen and kwin/WindowMaker. Jeff -- Q: What will happen in the Aftermath? A: Impossible to tell, since we're still in the Beforemath. http://latedeveloper.org.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 22:04:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E070A16A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anrays@gmail.com) Received: from mail.matrix.odessa.ua (mail.matrix.farlep.net [217.146.241.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4E813C44B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anrays@gmail.com) Received: from santinel.home.ua (senser.ppp.matrix.private [10.64.37.183]) by mail.matrix.odessa.ua with ESMTP id 1HQVZX-00074I-75 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:27:19 +0200 Received: from anray by santinel.home.ua with local (Exim 4.66; FreeBSD) id 1HQVai-0008Zd-Rw for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:28:32 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Andrey Slusar Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:28:32 +0200 Message-ID: <86abyjpj0f.fsf@santinel.home.ua> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.5-b27 (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 5.4 (+++++) X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (5.4 points, 5.0 required, autolearn: no) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 5.4 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100% [score: 0.9906] X-Spam-Status: YES Subject: sound card ESI MAYA44MK2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:04:18 -0000 Hello! FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT is supported sound card ESI MAYA44MK2? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 22:13:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CF316A403 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from smtpauth03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F97E13C489 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: (qmail 19351 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2007 21:47:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.133.124) by smtpauth03-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.183) with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2007 21:47:11 -0000 Message-ID: <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:47:10 -0500 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Bryant References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> In-Reply-To: <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:13:53 -0000 On 03/11/2007 13:28, Sean Bryant wrote: > Jonathan Horne wrote: >> ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off >> from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my >> laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to >> the minimal desktop. >> >> id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id like >> to try some of the lesser known, but still just as functional desktops. >> >> can i get some recommendations, as well as what graphical mail reader >> and web browser works best with your recommendation? >> >> thanks, >> jonathan >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Check out http://www.enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/DR17/ > It's in ports and its probably what you're looking for, fast, function > and a fair bit of eyecandy. I'll second the E17! > > I honestly opt for Opera because its fast, functional and it has all the > functionality I want built right in. > > As for mail, it seems Opera dropped the ball on IMAP support. It's > utterly horrid in Opera 9. Because of this I go for thunderbird because > it just works the way I want. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 22:26:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F50016A407 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1241A13C465 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id B6AAE471836 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:26:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B1DB138678A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:26:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Sun Mar 11 23:26:58 2007 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE2738671B for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:26:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from TX2.Go2France.com [66.90.247.9] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AE26211700C4; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:09:42 +0100 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:26:45 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <20070311173757.F53087@simone.iecc.com> References: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> <200703112151359.SM03288@TX2.Go2France.com> <20070311173757.F53087@simone.iecc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <200703112309140.SM03288@TX2.Go2France.com> Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:26:51 -0000 >>>onfirmed that the mail is from you, after all >> >>No. His MX has only verified his email address, which does not say >>he sent the msg. > >Then what was the point? "His MX has only verified his email address" Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 22:28:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7404E16A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5BF13C48C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394121F77FD; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:28:27 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: XW2w3K/kvnGvPRzme5kUZU2N09x0HtpDT/L8byl68k1g 1173652106 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9E013FD1; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:28:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:28:23 -0500 To: Ed Zwart X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:28:27 -0000 [mailed and posted] On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Ed Zwart wrote: > I own my_domain.com. I've paid a hoster for the last couple years, > but that's ending in a week or so. Meanwhile, I've used dyndns to > point foo.homedns.org to my IP. I am going to add my voice to those suggesting that you use your ISP's mail server for outgoing mail. There are a number of reasons. First of all, if you are on a dynamic IP, it is very likely that your ISP blocks outgoing STMP traffic that doesn't go via their own mail server. That is, they won't allow "direct to MX" mailing from dynamic addresses. Another reason is that it just isn't a good idea to run your own direct to MX mail system, unless you have some real expertise in how mail transport works. Professionally, I set up mail servers for small and medium sized businesses, and in more and more cases, I actually suggest that they use outside mail servers for their out going mail. (Generally, I think that ISPs tend to do really poor jobs with email and that it is best to avoid being locked into your ISP for much, so I recommend services like fastmail.fm.) Let me also add, that while I do set up and manage mail servers for others, I don't do direct to MX from home myself. (Well, I do for a mailing list server I run, but not for my normal everyday mailing.) So even with the expertise needed, I don't really recommend running your own MX (incoming) or own Direct to MX (outgoing) servers unless you have a specific need to fill. Anyway With postfix you just need to specify relayhost=YOUR-ISPS-OUTGOING-SMTP-SERVER-HERE in /usr/local/etc/postfix/main.cf and then run # postfix reload Then just send a test, eg $ mail -s test your@external-email-addres < /dev/null to see what happens. If your ISP wants authentication for handling your outgoing mail, look at http://macosx.com/tech-support/smtp-relay-host-authentication/938.html which describes how to configure postfix for that on Mac OS X. For FreeBSD just replace /private/etc/postfix/ in all of the paths mentioned with /usr/local/etc/postfix/ -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 22:32:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CC216A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B414813C44C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:32:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BMWF9E064725; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:32:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BMWEFV064722; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:32:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:32:14 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Jeff Rollin In-Reply-To: <8a0028260703111458w11f31b71se2a3134d18e624a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070311232739.D64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> <1173646778.3731.2.camel@localhost> <8a0028260703111458w11f31b71se2a3134d18e624a8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Sergio Lenzi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:32:15 -0000 > > Maybe you are, but even so, do you still use V7 on a PDP/11 or 32V on a VAX, > make dumps to DECtape, or use a VT100? There's something to be said for i still have (in many places) Wyse 120 terminals i've got for free, including one at home :) works at vt220 at 38400 baud, very well From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 22:32:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF4416A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14EF13C45D for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BMWsWW064805; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:32:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BMWsbV064802; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:32:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:32:54 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Gerard Seibert In-Reply-To: <20070311170341.3f3c5ae9@localhost> Message-ID: <20070311233229.J64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F32BA7.1000704@daleco.biz> <20070311081232.I66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F42C33.7000402@barafranca.com> <20070311161005.58928e7f@localhost> <20070311214626.H52046@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311170341.3f3c5ae9@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:32:53 -0000 > > ... > ;::::; > ;::::; :; > ;:::::' :; > ;:::::; ;. > ,:::::' ; OOO\ > ::::::; ; OOOOO\ > ;:::::; ; OOOOOOOO > ,;::::::; ;' / OOOOOOO > ;:::::::::`. ,,,;. / / DOOOOOO > .';:::::::::::::::::;, / / DOOOO > ,::::::;::::::;;;;::::;, / / DOOO > ;`::::::`'::::::;;;::::: ,#/ / DOOO > :`:::::::`;::::::;;::: ;::# / DOOO > ::`:::::::`;:::::::: ;::::# / DOO > `:`:::::::`;:::::: ;::::::#/ DOO > :::`:::::::`;; ;:::::::::## OO > ::::`:::::::`;::::::::;:::# OO > `:::::`::::::::::::;'`:;::# O > `:::::`::::::::;' / / `:# > ::::::`:::::;' / / `# > nice to meet you :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 22:33:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A7716A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410B513C4B7 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BMXnue064931; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:33:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BMXn2r064928; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:33:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:33:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Paulette McGee In-Reply-To: <765930.99936.qm@web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070311233302.O64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <765930.99936.qm@web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Andy Kendall Subject: Re: Manual updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:33:48 -0000 >> > Hello Wojciech, > Yes, the handbook is quite detailed; however there are > somethings missing. Not to start a flame war; these > are just a few thoughts and they are in my humble > opinion. > why you don't write such part and fixes? i am sure it will be included in new releases if you only post them From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 22:34:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF5716A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACAA13C458 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B535C1F78CC; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:34:19 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: K7LtODioeHeoacuNzRh9xYgoqDc3zrSRBPkDi2HUXxEu 1173652459 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC9515A3A; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:34:19 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703110951g63c92218p1b3865be3999047e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faf55220703110951g63c92218p1b3865be3999047e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0AC8A2B3-E550-48E9-AC12-31CE361C9D7D@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:34:16 -0500 To: Susanth K X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD's Implementation Language X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:34:19 -0000 [mailed and posted] On Mar 11, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Susanth K wrote: > Am new to FreeBSD; ( Sorry; if Any of u find this as a silly > Question ) Have you been given a course assignment which involves describing things about FreeBSD (and possibly other systems)? It certainly seems that way to me. So from this point on, for any question that you ask which can be answered with a little bit of your own digging around through what is already made public on the 'net, I am going to recommend that you do that digging yourself. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 22:39:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AE916A406 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E951B13C46A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BMdMZ7065580; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:39:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BMdM5R065577; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:39:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:39:22 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Sergio Lenzi In-Reply-To: <1173646778.3731.2.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070311233420.O64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> <1173646778.3731.2.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:39:21 -0000 > > Once I setted up a mailserver with more that 2000 users > with a single freebsd sendmail in a small machine (1Ghz,512Mb memory, > Freebsd 4.X) one internet connection.. with virtual users, > mailertable... and it > worked for years... by the way... it had telnetd avaiable... exactly like me. i do prefer sendmail for mail (+procmail), always provide both telnet, ssh and rsh/rlogin for shell users (and me), always use rsh/rcp when scrambling is not needed, etc. etc. > Have anyone yet "cracked" the telnet enable machine whose > IP was published in the list? i published mine. > months > with all the hackers, crackers, and xxxckers.... hitting it... > if there will be security hole in one of your (or mine) services we use, someone will be able to crack. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 22:45:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3714B16A402 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EE613C48A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BMijae066211; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:44:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BMijdD066208; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:44:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:44:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Eric Schuele In-Reply-To: <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> Message-ID: <20070311233953.C64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Sean Bryant Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:45:03 -0000 >> a fair bit of eyecandy. > > I'll second the E17! > i like to get all icons, menus, frames and windows to minimum, as it doesn't improve productivity, while taking space of the screen. as i found (at least with fvwm2) that minimum=ZERO i did this and use that config for over 3 years (with netbsd before switching to freebsd) completely black desktop, 24 virtual "consoles" (keys Windows-F1 to F12, CTRL-F1 to F12 and Windows-arrows), x terminal with Windows-X, other programs with menu key and menu, all programs started full screen by default, window frames and titles removed, all screen available for ACTUAL USE. sometimes when i have to use windows machine, after few minutes of use i automatically press Windows-right arrow trying to switch console from that game and do something useful. unfortunately it doesn't work there ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 22:48:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAF216A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@cshw.net) Received: from gothmog.akp-net.com (gothmog.akp-net.com [194.126.172.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3827213C4B8 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@cshw.net) Received: from p579a89dd.dip.t-dialin.net ([87.154.137.221] helo=ANGBAND) by gothmog.akp-net.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HQWTE-0004j9-Ps for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:24:52 +0100 From: "Alexander Schlichting" To: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:24:13 +0100 Message-ID: <03aa01c7642c$11878060$34968120$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcdkK/9oGflpFtbZSn+EqZB/GR9UTw== Content-Language: de Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problems with SSHD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:48:52 -0000 Hi, I am having a big problem with the OpenSSH Daemon on my server. Whenever I am connected to the server and the connection is idle for a few seconds it gets disconnected. It's almost impossible to work from remote on the server when the connection is always getting dropped. The server is running FreeBSD angmar.domain.com 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 and the SSHD installed by sysinstall OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110, OpenSSL 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004 . I tried a complete FreeBSD reinstall but it did not help, I tried various settings like KeepAlive TCPKeepAlive but they did not help either. I upgraded OpenSSL to 0.9.8e and I installed OpenSSH 4.6p1 but it did not solve the problem. When I run SSH with loglevel debug I see this in the auth.log when I am getting disconnected: Read error from remote host 192.168.2.100: Connection reset by peer . When I use strace to monitor the process I see this on disconnect 643 wait4(-1, [WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0], WNOHANG, NULL) = 4975 643 wait4(-1, 0xbfbfdc9c, WNOHANG, NULL) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes) 643 syscall_416(0x14, 0, 0xbfbfdc20) = 0 643 syscall_417(0xbfbfdcd0) = -1 (errno 4) 643 select(7, [3 4], NULL, NULL, NULL I tried to find information's about syscall_417 but had no luck with that. I am stuck here and have no idea what to do. When I am connected to the server by FTP I don't get disconnected when the connection is idle ( no nohup or so being sent ) and when I connect by Telnet I also don't get disconnected when the connection is idle. I am not sure if I should add the dmesg output here for sys specs or not. I don't do it now but can give it if needed. I installed Debian on another HDD of the server today and I am not having any problems there. No SSH disconnects all the time. Thanks for any help. -Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 23:44:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F252016A400 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7093313C457 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2BNiRh8073057; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:44:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2BNiQKF073052; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:44:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:44:26 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: <0AC8A2B3-E550-48E9-AC12-31CE361C9D7D@goldmark.org> Message-ID: <20070312003957.L72143@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <6faf55220703110951g63c92218p1b3865be3999047e@mail.gmail.com> <0AC8A2B3-E550-48E9-AC12-31CE361C9D7D@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Susanth K , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD's Implementation Language X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:44:31 -0000 > about FreeBSD (and possibly other systems)? > > It certainly seems that way to me. So from this point on, for any question for me it looks like writing well scored essay for computer lessons at school. it's very common on polish USENET on all computer groups, and it's clearly evident most cases that people don't really understand the question they ask. i don't state that it's Susanth case but it certainly looks this way. If not - why she don't ask about some available X CPU machines where X is amount of CPU she need. Of course assuming some type of CPU having known computing power. If so - she should specify what kind of task she would like to perform on that machine. With such question there will be possible answers like "this should be OK for that job" or not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 23:56:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A01316A401 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB28713C44C for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup224.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.224]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l2BNppSU024804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:55:29 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2BNphNp060655; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:51:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2BNn1l1060625; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:49:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:49:00 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Susanth K Message-ID: <20070311234900.GB60396@kobe.laptop> References: <6faf55220703110951g63c92218p1b3865be3999047e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703110951g63c92218p1b3865be3999047e@mail.gmail.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.774, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.62, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD's Implementation Language X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:56:53 -0000 On 2007-03-11 22:21, Susanth K wrote: > Dear Friends, > Is FreeBSD Completely Written in C ? Sort of. Great parts of FreeBSD, in fact the vast majority of the source code, is written in C. But it is not *completely* written in C. > Is there any part of OS written in C++ ? Yes. The source code is freely available online. You can check for yourself :) > And I Guess GCC Compiler is used for compilation; ( Is it so ? ) Yes, the officially supported compiler is the GCC version that comes with the base system. But this does not mean that only the particular GCC compiler suite works for developing software on FreeBSD. You can find a wealth of compilers for a huge collection of languages in the Ports Collection. Compilers exist for FORTRAN, Haskell, Pascal, Modula 3, etc. Interpreters and interactive environments for Perl, Python, Ruby, Lisp and Scheme are easy to install too. You name it, and the Ports probably has a compiler or interpreter for it already. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 11 23:11:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D0F16A403 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992C413C448 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77E31F7209; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:11:59 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 6vLR8UUyAW9gl1GWNP0U8mM1IU/os1JSB5nDkxtlUG71 1173654719 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3010B956B; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:11:58 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <26face530703101127l558d2db7y54ddb6674d663383@mail.gmail.com> References: <26face530703101127l558d2db7y54ddb6674d663383@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:11:54 -0500 To: Kelly Jones X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:12:55 +0000 Cc: nmosug-l@mailman.swcp.com, linuxusersgroup@googlegroups.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nmlug@nmlug.org, users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:12:00 -0000 [mailed and posted] On Mar 10, 2007, at 1:27 PM, Kelly Jones wrote: > To fight spam, I want to validate the address (not necessarily in > real-time) of the a given email sender. Is there a Unix tool that does > this? > > The basics are simple: to validate "kmnyqi@wnonline.net", I connect to > the MX record of wnonline.net and go as far as "RCPT TO" as follows: > [...] > RCPT TO: > 550 : Recipient address rejected: 5.1.1 > ... User unknown > > > This tells me kmnyqi@wnonline.net is an invalid address and that mail > from that address is probably bogus. > > A more sophisticated tool would cache results, handle temporary > failures [...] In some anti-spam discussions what you are proposing is referred to as "call-backs". > I realize this technique is far from perfect: > > Spammers spoof legit addresses Indeed they do. As someone who has at times received more than 100 bounces per minute over the span of a week because some spammer decided that my address would be a good one to forge, I am well aware of that. In general, we have a question of how well any spamming counter measure scales. If most SMTP servers did the kind of verification you wish to do, than most spam would be sent with forged genuine addresses. So when considering using such a system, consider the overall cost to legitimate users vs the counter counter measures spammers will take. In this case the counter counter measures available to spammers is so much easier and cheaper than the verification system itself, that it's not really a good idea to try such verification. > Bounces/Mailing lists/etc legitimately use "do not reply" addresses > > It could be considered unfriendly to the target MX servers As you've already seen, some managers of MXes complain, others find the added load negligible. > Some mail servers incorrectly say "user unknown" when they see spam, > figuring it's more of a deterrent than saying "you're a spammer" Yes. An unknown user response is more likely to get the address removed from a list than a policy bounce. > Some mail servers inefficiently accept mail for "foo@xxx.com" (where > xxx.com is one of their domains), figure out if foo exists later, and > send a bounce back to the envelope sender, instead of rejecting email > at the SMTP level Yes. While I'm a believer in "reject early, reject often" lots of sites don't or can't say that an address is bad at SMTP RCPT TO: time. Often these are situations where an MS-Exchange server is the "real" mailhub for an organization, but it is being protected from direct access from the Internet by having a Unix box stand between it and the network. Other MTAs just accept and then bounce (instead of rejected at SMTP time) as a matter of (mis)design. Some very deliberately don't provide verification at STMP time as a means to make it harder for spammers to collect email addresses. Indeed, this is why the VRFY command is almost never implemented by STMP servers these days. Anyway, others have pointed you to tools for doing what you want. The newsgroups or mailing lists (and FAQs) for the particular MTA you use will point you to how to plug in such tools into their MTA. As I've suggested, I'm not a particular fan of this particular counter measure, but you will have seen that opinions differ. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 00:27:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22D016A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8844F13C483 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 74033 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 00:27:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=yXcA+wEcjbxv91ELzHSukkzWBFlkpvtMcLCj8Vwo6+OafJwasvdq6nNFGImRMhX19vXRovxC6UMx8TNsvLO9JjM0wxC4WZmHdBd9v3cejmC2HgtF9xVUdhi9kDaSnlNOcmoLRc0BKNPlAVMV1VYR06skk8D2xyj3axu7QYdF/5c= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 00:27:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qvPOgjMVM1lATStp9KlIdHsfRNq7ToEC7.VrYAH8JywB1ose9rjX5ykk0abjxGs5zKcaSlEWUpleu42Cncd_yB0VVrMMnv4azryokC5NaFhMpYC3ZTvusxO78Mkmgckwv8zIaoqtgWiVeYkDD2zMQwMCtZ4UGoeyg0XtGnJ1 In-Reply-To: <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jekillen Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:27:52 -0800 To: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:27:58 -0000 On Mar 11, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > [mailed and posted] > > On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Ed Zwart wrote: > >> I own my_domain.com. I've paid a hoster for the last couple years, >> but that's ending in a week or so. Meanwhile, I've used dyndns to >> point foo.homedns.org to my IP. If you will allow me to break in on this exchange; Does this advise apply if you have static ip service and are running web servers from these addresses, with the ISP's blessing? (meaning you also have at least two name servers running for the registered sites) This is important info for me, as I have that and am considering doing just that, run my own mail servers. I expect to have 5 machines doing various jobs, DNS web server(four registered web sites), mail server. I already have three of the four sites up and available from static ip addresses over ADSL. Thanks so much Jeff K. > > I am going to add my voice to those suggesting that you use your ISP's > mail server for outgoing mail. > > There are a number of reasons. First of all, if you are on a dynamic > IP, it is very likely that your ISP blocks outgoing STMP traffic that > doesn't go via their own mail server. That is, they won't allow > "direct to MX" mailing from dynamic addresses. > > Another reason is that it just isn't a good idea to run your own > direct to MX mail system, unless you have some real expertise in how > mail transport works. Professionally, I set up mail servers for small > and medium sized businesses, and in more and more cases, I actually > suggest that they use outside mail servers for their out going mail. > (Generally, I think that ISPs tend to do really poor jobs with email > and that it is best to avoid being locked into your ISP for much, so I > recommend services like fastmail.fm.) > > Let me also add, that while I do set up and manage mail servers for > others, I don't do direct to MX from home myself. (Well, I do for a > mailing list server I run, but not for my normal everyday mailing.) > So even with the expertise needed, I don't really recommend running > your own MX (incoming) or own Direct to MX (outgoing) servers unless > you have a specific need to fill. > > Anyway > > With postfix you just need to specify > > relayhost=YOUR-ISPS-OUTGOING-SMTP-SERVER-HERE > > in > > /usr/local/etc/postfix/main.cf > > and then run > > # postfix reload > > Then just send a test, eg > > $ mail -s test your@external-email-addres < /dev/null > > to see what happens. > > If your ISP wants authentication for handling your outgoing mail, look > at > > http://macosx.com/tech-support/smtp-relay-host-authentication/938.html > > which describes how to configure postfix for that on Mac OS X. For > FreeBSD just replace > > /private/etc/postfix/ > > in all of the paths mentioned with > > /usr/local/etc/postfix/ > > > -j > -- > Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 00:54:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6044416A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulh@bdug.org.au) Received: from mail.bdug.org.au (mail.bdug.org.au [202.72.170.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8397713C459 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:54:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulh@bdug.org.au) Received: from w2k2 (w2k2.bdug.org.au [192.168.0.102]) by mail.bdug.org.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CED9B83E; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:24:34 +0900 (WST) From: "Paul Hamilton" To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?'Nejc_=A9koberne'?= , "'User Questions'" Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:25:22 +0900 Message-ID: <074301c7643c$ec68e060$6600a8c0@w2k2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Thread-Index: AcdihwntsQUJw6aVTGG0+Rs5oIaDAABtIkcw In-Reply-To: <45F1BF10.7040109@skoberne.net> Importance: Normal X-bdug-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-bdug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-bdug-MailScanner-From: paulh@bdug.org.au X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD on IDE Flash disk drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:54:17 -0000 Hi, I have played around with using an EPIA 600-PD (Fanless Dual NICS), with 256MB RAM. Works well, however, a buildworld takes around 4 hours ;-) I am booting from a 512MB CF card, and run /var and /tmp from a RAM drive. Upon startup, the CF card /var and /tmp dir. are copied into the ram drives, the rest is Read Only. When it shuts down (not very often), the ram drive contents are copied back to the CF card. You could backup the ram drive to CF more frequently if required. I run off of 12V battery, so power failures don't affect me all that much. You could monitor the Battery/UPS for power failure conditions if needed etc. Running FreeBSD 6.0. Cheers, Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Nejc =A9koberne > Sent: Saturday, 10 March 2007 5:10 AM > To: User Questions > Subject: FreeBSD on IDE Flash disk drive >=20 >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I plan to install a FreeBSD 6.2 router/gateway/DHCP server on=20 > a EPIA box with 1GB Transcend IDE Flash drive. Since=20 > Transcend says that this device is capable of "10,000=20 > insertion/removal cycles" I assume that I must minimize the=20 > number of writes to the drive. It is okay with me if I have=20 > to configure syslog to log to another machine. >=20 > Any suggestions/instructions how to achieve this? Any=20 > experienced users regarding this matter? >=20 > Thanks for ideas and help. > Nejc > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > --=20 > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 00:59:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24B716A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=bcxfYO=IQ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AADB13C44C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=bcxfYO=IQ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailscan34.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.34] helo=mailscan34.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1HQYdd-0008M5-GO for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:43:45 -0400 Received: from authsmtp11.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.11] ident=exim) by mailscan34.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1HQYdc-0004SG-9v for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:43:44 -0400 Received: from authsmtp11.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.11] helo=authsmtp11.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan34.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1HQYdZ-0004RO-L6; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:43:41 -0400 Received: from cpe-71-72-98-197.columbus.res.rr.com ([71.72.98.197] helo=vixen42) by authsmtp11.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1HQYdX-0007Fm-8d; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:43:39 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:43:26 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20070311194326.4da9e341@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <20070310223906.E8914@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <6faf55220703100845u62eab431y3a16ae0d8cb3bba7@mail.gmail.com> <55D533EB-26F9-40B7-838B-8BCB9D0A9463@tca-cable-connector.com> <20070310223906.E8914@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 0d1ca1697cdb7a831d4877828571b7ab:1570f0de6936c69fef9e164fffc541bc X-EN-AuthUser: vvelox2 Sender: Vulpes Velox X-EN-OrigIP: 71.72.98.197 X-EN-OrigHost: cpe-71-72-98-197.columbus.res.rr.com Cc: David Schulz , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Howmany CPU Does FreeBSD Support ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:59:10 -0000 On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:40:47 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > I have heard it does not scale well above 4 > > to be clear. > > kernel task (disk I/O, network etc.) is always on first processor, > everything else on any CPU. > > so as long as disk I/O network and other kernel tasks are able to > fit on one processor that's OK. > > for machines doing mostly pure computing 8-16 CPU may work fine, > for machines doing mostly fileserving and routing even 2 CPUs may > be not well utilized That is only true if the process is giant locked. When look at dmesg, look for things that say GIANT-LOCKED and those will be ones confined to one processor. There has been a massive push since 5 to get ride of those. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 01:22:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5B416A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: from web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AD4413C480 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 94541 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Mar 2007 01:22:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=rzIt6TigrmWBRRvEsz0cFbQxj+jwha8VcHWtEVCWzDv3zxddYwghT91ed1hM/ZAsAPZcW2fY0MX7C7kYxXaLaZR5/f2lp8K4gbmW51zo+Me+wyZH6wQ7n9pnbuZTdRXcn1vx6trkwYVPpeiNJsm/3A1VdxcbpYBAFVr29wBlgRs=; X-YMail-OSG: Iwt7GRgVM1k80mmcPHuRfpUof8WX81vC45bACove.pLNbse2_Gq7kXgV9_PryHHznQehEE9nW6tIOx71aIH8l8wtP9wZ6_mP0RUHYHFlAGQBTmPRw0dxdg-- Received: from [68.164.15.239] by web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:22:38 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:22:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Paulette McGee To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20070311233302.O64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <522280.93942.qm@web62315.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Andy Kendall Subject: Re: Manual updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:22:39 -0000 --- Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> > > Hello Wojciech, > > Yes, the handbook is quite detailed; however there > are > > somethings missing. Not to start a flame war; > these > > are just a few thoughts and they are in my humble > > opinion. > > > > why you don't write such part and fixes? > > i am sure it will be included in new releases if you > only post them > Actually that was written and submitted to the doc project under an email address. Never heard a word back. Here is a link to an archived email that points to the email as well as the respective changes. Email was submitted for review on: Tue Aug 15 00:31:14 UTC 2006 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/010934.html Regards Paulette McGee ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 01:53:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6335916A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2786113C458 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107D81F7537; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:53:54 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: r6Epgs1cSX/6BzQbcwh1iYLDjgg4eEPcU8Yt2aTtWyaD 1173664433 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A288719DC9; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:53:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:53:28 -0500 To: jekillen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:53:54 -0000 On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:27 PM, jekillen wrote: > If you will allow me to break in on this exchange; > Does this advise [don't run your own direct to MX mail server] > apply if you have static ip service and are running web servers > from these addresses, with the ISP's blessing? (meaning you also > have at least two name servers running for the registered sites) First let's separate questions. One is dealing with your own incoming mail. The other is with sending mail out direct to MX. These two can (and often should) be separated. For the question of hosting your own MX there are positives and negatives. Here is a list off of the top of my head. It is far from complete. Positive: (1) You get to fully control your rejection/acceptance policy from the beginning. (2) You get the learn about running such a system. (3) You dramatically reduce your lock-in with an ISP (who can change their email policy or practice at any time. (4) You don't have to pay for some outside service (I use fastmail.fm) for hosting your incoming mail if you want something better than the "free" email service your ISP provides. Negatives: (a) You have to maintain what is really a surprisingly complex system for such a simple protocol. (b) You have to defend your system against attacks it otherwise wouldn't receive, including DoS attacks. (c) Damage of being overwhelmed (either by deliberate attack or spam blowback) may be harder to contain. (d) Your system needs to fail appropriately. For example, if you use something like LDAP to maintain username or email address information, you need to make sure that if your LDAP service fails your mail server fails in an appropriate way (say a complete shutdown) or issuing temporary (4xx) rejections instead of in an inappropriately issuing 5xx for mail that would be accepted normally. If (1) (or (2)) is really important to you, then go ahead. But probably the best way to see whether (1) really matters is to ask yourself what things you would like to do that you couldn't do unless you ran your own MX. For example, if you have strong feelings about whether DNSbls should be used prior to content filtering or as part of it. Or whether you want spam and virus rejections to occur at SMTP time or later. Whether you want SPF failures to generate immediate rejections. Whether you want to make use of sophisticated IMAP features that ISPs can't provide. If you don't have strong feelings about these sorts of questions, then I doubt that (1) applies to you. Now there is the second question about doing direct to MX for mail sending instead of going through your ISP or some third party service. Positives (i) You control queing and retry rates. (ii) For bulk mailing (mailing lists) there is an advantage of how out-going STMP session are organized. (iii) You are not as dependent on your ISP or a third party for getting your mail out, if they are slow or unreliable with mail (iv) If your ISP's mail server provide crappy bounce information and you need better information. (v) If your ISP adds junk to your mail or sends out mail in unfriendly so as to get itself on blacklists or leads to other forms of needless rejections. (vi) You get to learn about running such systems Negatives: (A) Even with a static IP address, your assigned address may look dynamic to other servers who may then reject mail coming directly from you. (B) Your ISP blocks/disallows this sort of thing (not a problem in your case) (C) The reverse DNS records for your IP need to correspond reasonably well to your domain name, otherwise lots of servers will reject mail from you. (D) You need to follow the RFCs and conventions strictly so that you don't get yourself added to blacklists (E) It is probably a little less network efficient for you to talk directly to servers all over the planet when you could just talk to your ISPs server which will be much closer to you. Here again, if (vi) is your primary reason for wanting to run your own direct to MX system, then use it just for one of your minor domains. That way, if you mess up, you won't get your major domains blacklisted. If (i) and (ii) really matter for you, then go ahead, but I think that you should have a real reason beyond "I can, therefore I ought" if it is going to be your primary way of getting mail out. In the end it is a matter of individual taste and need. With good DSL or FiOS lines, along with a proper backup regime and Uninterruptible Power Supply hosting your own website makes plenty of sense. But mail is a tricker thing to maintain than apache, so my view remains that unless you have some specific need for the kind of control you can get by running your own, let someone else handle your mail transport to the rest of the world. I hope this helps. And keep in mind that different people will offer different advise. I certainly believe my advise is good advise (otherwise I wouldn't have offered it), but I'm also aware that I could well be wrong. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 02:00:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA1016A406 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from sipserver.k1.com.br (customer-200195195217.idc.onda.com.br [200.195.195.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6281C13C468 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from k1.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sipserver.k1.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2C132YV038460 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:00:37 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (k1.com.br) Received: from [201.21.172.89] (authenticated as lenzi) by k1.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 02:00:37 -0000 From: Sergio Lenzi To: freebsd questions In-Reply-To: <8a0028260703111458w11f31b71se2a3134d18e624a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> <1173646778.3731.2.camel@localhost> <8a0028260703111458w11f31b71se2a3134d18e624a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:00:36 -0300 Message-Id: <1173664836.3731.26.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Vt102 at home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:00:39 -0000 > > Maybe you are, but even so, do you still use V7 on a PDP/11 or 32V on a VAX, > make dumps to DECtape, or use a VT100? There's something to be said for > modern PC hardware, xterms/gnome-terminal/konsole/screen, and yes, ssh. > (Namely speed, convenience, and security, respectively). > > I went through a stage of using Linux with xman, xeyes, xterm, twm, etc., > until I realised I was much more productive using KDE help and > konsole/screen and kwin/WindowMaker. > > Jeff > > Like Mr Wojciech Puchar, I have a VT100 clone here at home... that I use for kernel debug on a 9600 com1 port... and it works soo good.. May be when you are 55 (or 64 as the beatles song)... you will use konsole and the "boys" will use some kind of "brain cortex" wired interface.... I started to take BSD serious when 2 years ago I was in a "meeting" of linux users... they all showed those wonderful interfaces, light speed programs, and a zillion things they could do with linux... I became very impressed... than I asked... who else is using all this stuff?? I mean which company, how many users?? how many systems installed and running for how long??? well... no answers... got.... Than I asked them why don't they code an commercial application with all that power??? again... none.... Than I said that I coded applications for hundred users on DEC, and VAX... They laugh on me... than I sit in my home and coded a 200K lines of an complete ERP for fuel stations... and in 3 years I am back to the hackers show... Now they have kde 3.5.5 and gnome 2.18.... and NO ONE application program... still... May be my method is not productive, "I still use GDB and CSCOPE" but for sure produces good result at last. Now I admin more than 200 BSD computers. in the old fashion way... with an mtbf of 15 years.. The next invention here is BSD for notebooks... an special "blended" BSD that will be installed in more than 5000 notebooks a year here... the project will begin to roll in some months.... Sergio. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 02:14:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10C416A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FF413C44C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HQa3P-0004xJ-5W; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:14:27 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: <26face530703101127l558d2db7y54ddb6674d663383@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:14:26 -0600 To: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:14:27 -0000 On Mar 11, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > > In this case the counter counter measures available to spammers is > so much easier and cheaper than the verification system itself, > that it's not really a good idea to try such verification. that is always true, at least with existing technology. The counter measures always cost more than the sending of the spam Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 02:15:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA03D16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bconway@clue4all.net) Received: from alnrmhc16.comcast.net (alnrmhc16.comcast.net [204.127.225.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A263513C45B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bconway@clue4all.net) Received: from ladyluck.clue4all.net (c-24-63-37-229.hsd1.nh.comcast.net[24.63.37.229]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc16) with ESMTP id <20070312021556b16008jpqje>; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:15:56 +0000 Received: from ladyluck.clue4all.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ladyluck.clue4all.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 217212D4118 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:15:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:15:56 -0400 From: "Brian J. Conway" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070311221556.2d41802a.bconway@clue4all.net> In-Reply-To: <20070310105759.6980f90e.bconway@clue4all.net> References: <20070310105759.6980f90e.bconway@clue4all.net> Organization: Clue 4 All, Inc. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:15:57 -0000 On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:57:59 -0500 "Brian J. Conway" wrote: > > I had exactly the same problem in my acpi-blacklisted motherboard. I > > disabled acpi and the errors vanished. In my case, this error was not > > related with NICs, but exclusively with the motherboard. > > Interesting. I hadn't thought of that, but I am using ACPI now where I > was not on 4.x. I'll give that a try next time it happens. I would > have hoped the motherboard would be up to par (Intel D845GVSR with the > latest BIOS - > http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D845GVSR/index.htm), but maybe > not. Thanks. > > (Sorry for the bad threading, I'm off list and copying off the web > archive.) > > Brian J. Conway No luck, got the first timeout shortly (25 min) after boot without ACPI, again while mostly idle and I'm not able to repeat it more than once a day or so: Mar 12 01:49:19 imogen kernel: xl0: watchdog timeout Mar 12 01:49:19 imogen kernel: xl0: link state changed to DOWN Mar 12 01:49:21 imogen kernel: xl0: link state changed to UP Any other ideas? Original post, for reference: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-March/144227.html -b From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 03:17:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F9E16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-242.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFE613C44B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from rigel.dfwlp.com (rigel.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2C3Gw6e015088 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:16:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:16:57 -0500 From: Jonathan horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070311221657.531106c6.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <03aa01c7642c$11878060$34968120$@net> References: <03aa01c7642c$11878060$34968120$@net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: Problems with SSHD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:17:01 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:24:13 +0100 "Alexander Schlichting" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am having a big problem with the OpenSSH Daemon on my server. Whenever I > am connected to the server and the connection is idle for a few seconds it > gets disconnected. It's almost impossible to work from remote on the server > when the connection is always getting dropped. The server is running FreeBSD > angmar.domain.com 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 > UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 and > the SSHD installed by sysinstall OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110, OpenSSL > 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004 . I tried a complete FreeBSD reinstall but it did not > help, I tried various settings like KeepAlive TCPKeepAlive but they did not > help either. I upgraded OpenSSL to 0.9.8e and I installed OpenSSH 4.6p1 but > it did not solve the problem. When I run SSH with loglevel debug I see this > in the auth.log when I am getting disconnected: Read error from remote host > 192.168.2.100: Connection reset by peer . When I use strace to monitor the > process I see this on disconnect > > > > 643 wait4(-1, [WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0], WNOHANG, NULL) = 4975 > > 643 wait4(-1, 0xbfbfdc9c, WNOHANG, NULL) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes) > > 643 syscall_416(0x14, 0, 0xbfbfdc20) = 0 > > 643 syscall_417(0xbfbfdcd0) = -1 (errno 4) > > 643 select(7, [3 4], NULL, NULL, NULL > > > > I tried to find information's about syscall_417 but had no luck with that. I > am stuck here and have no idea what to do. When I am connected to the server > by FTP I don't get disconnected when the connection is idle ( no nohup or so > being sent ) and when I connect by Telnet I also don't get disconnected when > the connection is idle. I am not sure if I should add the dmesg output here > for sys specs or not. I don't do it now but can give it if needed. > > > > I installed Debian on another HDD of the server today and I am not having > any problems there. No SSH disconnects all the time. Thanks for any help. > > > > -Alex > out of curiosity, what kind of nic is in the machine, and did you try swapping it with another? cheers, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 03:36:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FC616A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed.zwart@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A16213C465 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:36:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed.zwart@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1733817nfc for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:36:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iYULlKQs20K+UtrwxXSGnez3xVL65dcM8D+6Y9zk76Ou3+bH0jbOejmFW6GZSzHY0E6v1RbXZtkaCZZELKec5moXQ7YyL9vCJwRp6y8MxQE327uViLelzmrKuXO0MOaOFnk/FRR4hZw33l2Aha9Sf0Ee9BrxmwDBEkyX9XJIZT4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Y+SLCr9gqFNtWsLcSLzGXhWKMvln/ID0gB34OsO5l5wR0nR34eiUsJQ3htVebJYUSjNUfmfONwDq2gDARwm7J4FOBh9YafIcalqMILYMjDrP++JI/RzdlHgtHMyTSqFglnLUo4Nwd+t4+3MZK89bCNsiRNoaABbJwu1/NrNLHjE= Received: by 10.82.136.4 with SMTP id j4mr7435586bud.1173670617115; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.185.13 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6660f1280703112036y747c92a2w674ea46625830044@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:36:56 -0800 From: "Ed Zwart" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:36:59 -0000 Thanks Bill, Josh and Jeffrey for answering my question. It was my ISP. (So easy, I wish I had thought of that. I somehow managed to figure out they were blocking 80 a month or so ago.) I'm still a little fuzzy on legal entries for hostname and domain. I set them to be mine, and it worked, and then for kicks, set it to google.com, and that worked too. I looked at the headers, and can see that the source can be traced back to my machine, but that still seems kind of easy to spoof. Anyway, it's not something I'm overly worried about; I'm just not clear on what I SHOULD be using for hostname and domain. Any words of wisdom appreciated. Otherwise, thanks again for the already super help! e. On 3/11/07, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:27 PM, jekillen wrote: > > > If you will allow me to break in on this exchange; > > Does this advise [don't run your own direct to MX mail server] > > apply if you have static ip service and are running web servers > > from these addresses, with the ISP's blessing? (meaning you also > > have at least two name servers running for the registered sites) > > First let's separate questions. One is dealing with your own > incoming mail. The other is with sending mail out direct to MX. > These two can (and often should) be separated. > > For the question of hosting your own MX there are positives and > negatives. Here is a list off of the top of my head. It is far from > complete. > > Positive: > > (1) You get to fully control your rejection/acceptance policy from the > beginning. > > (2) You get the learn about running such a system. > > (3) You dramatically reduce your lock-in with an ISP (who can > change their > email policy or practice at any time. > > (4) You don't have to pay for some outside service (I use > fastmail.fm) for > hosting your incoming mail if you want something better than > the "free" > email service your ISP provides. > > Negatives: > > (a) You have to maintain what is really a surprisingly complex system > for such a simple protocol. > > (b) You have to defend your system against attacks it otherwise > wouldn't > receive, including DoS attacks. > > (c) Damage of being overwhelmed (either by deliberate attack or > spam blowback) > may be harder to contain. > > (d) Your system needs to fail appropriately. For example, if you use > something like LDAP to maintain username or email address > information, you > need to make sure that if your LDAP service fails your mail > server fails > in an appropriate way (say a complete shutdown) or issuing > temporary (4xx) > rejections instead of in an inappropriately issuing 5xx for > mail that > would be accepted normally. > > If (1) (or (2)) is really important to you, then go ahead. But > probably the best way to see whether (1) really matters is to ask > yourself what things you would like to do that you couldn't do unless > you ran your own MX. For example, if you have strong feelings about > whether DNSbls should be used prior to content filtering or as part > of it. Or whether you want spam and virus rejections to occur at > SMTP time or later. Whether you want SPF failures to generate > immediate rejections. Whether you want to make use of sophisticated > IMAP features that ISPs can't provide. If you don't have strong > feelings about these sorts of questions, then I doubt that (1) > applies to you. > > Now there is the second question about doing direct to MX for mail > sending instead of going through your ISP or some third party service. > > Positives > > (i) You control queing and retry rates. > > (ii) For bulk mailing (mailing lists) there is an advantage of how > out-going > STMP session are organized. > > (iii) You are not as dependent on your ISP or a third party for > getting your > mail out, if they are slow or unreliable with mail > > (iv) If your ISP's mail server provide crappy bounce information > and you > need better information. > > (v) If your ISP adds junk to your mail or sends out mail in > unfriendly so as > to get itself on blacklists or leads to other forms of needless > rejections. > > (vi) You get to learn about running such systems > > Negatives: > > (A) Even with a static IP address, your assigned address may look > dynamic > to other servers who may then reject mail coming directly from > you. > > (B) Your ISP blocks/disallows this sort of thing (not a problem in > your case) > > (C) The reverse DNS records for your IP need to correspond > reasonably well > to your domain name, otherwise lots of servers will reject > mail from you. > > (D) You need to follow the RFCs and conventions strictly so that > you don't > get yourself added to blacklists > > (E) It is probably a little less network efficient for you to talk > directly > to servers all over the planet when you could just talk to > your ISPs > server which will be much closer to you. > > Here again, if (vi) is your primary reason for wanting to run your > own direct to MX system, then use it just for one of your minor > domains. That way, if you mess up, you won't get your major domains > blacklisted. If (i) and (ii) really matter for you, then go ahead, > but I think that you should have a real reason beyond "I can, > therefore I ought" if it is going to be your primary way > of getting mail out. > > In the end it is a matter of individual taste and need. With good > DSL or FiOS lines, along with a proper backup regime and > Uninterruptible Power Supply hosting your own website makes plenty of > sense. But mail is a tricker thing to maintain than apache, so my > view remains that unless you have some specific need for the kind of > control you can get by running your own, let someone else handle your > mail transport to the rest of the world. > > I hope this helps. And keep in mind that different people will offer > different advise. I certainly believe my advise is good advise > (otherwise I wouldn't have offered it), but I'm also aware that I > could well be wrong. > > Cheers, > > -j > > -- > Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 03:54:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2572216A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:54:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from smtpauth02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E159713C45A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: (qmail 19921 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 03:54:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.133.124) by smtpauth02-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.182) with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2007 03:54:15 -0000 Message-ID: <45F4CEE5.7040005@computer.org> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:54:13 -0500 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> <20070311233953.C64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070311233953.C64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Sean Bryant Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:54:16 -0000 On 03/11/2007 17:44, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> a fair bit of eyecandy. >> >> I'll second the E17! >> > > i like to get all icons, menus, frames and windows to minimum, as it > doesn't improve productivity, while taking space of the screen. > > as i found (at least with fvwm2) that minimum=ZERO i did this and use > that config for over 3 years (with netbsd before switching to freebsd) > > completely black desktop, 24 virtual "consoles" (keys Windows-F1 to F12, > CTRL-F1 to F12 and Windows-arrows), x terminal with Windows-X, other > programs with menu key and menu, all programs started full screen by > default, window frames and titles removed, > > all screen available for ACTUAL USE. > All easily attainable in E17. :) > > > sometimes when i have to use windows machine, after few minutes of use i > automatically press Windows-right arrow trying to switch console from > that game and do something useful. unfortunately it doesn't work there ;) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 04:00:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2972A16A404 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp1.tls.net (smtp1.tls.net [65.196.224.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9F6C13C455 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 21564 invoked by uid 89); 12 Mar 2007 04:01:16 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 21549, pid: 21561, t: 0.1432s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.88.5/m:42/d:2702 Received: from 64-184-10-26.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.105?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.26) by auth-smtp1.tls.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 04:01:15 -0000 Message-ID: <45F4DE37.2030206@pixelhammer.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:59:35 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001c76419$a7bfe6c0$4a074c0a@andypc2> <20070311214721.O52046@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070311214721.O52046@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Manual updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:00:23 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> As a newb to FreeBSD I find that the manual/handbook is not great in >> detail, >> (understatement), and I seem to be relying on this questions list for >> a lot >> of help. > > what's missing? i think it's quite detailed I started with Linux years ago. I tried several versions and only Slackware was useable, and only because the lists were such great help. There was of course the RH books, not any better than Slackware Unleashed or the FreeBSD Handbook. In frustration I tried FreeBSD and got it up and running all by myself using the book, I was impressed. Once I found SeaFug I really got rolling. Overall I think the FreeBSD Handbook is one of the best. It doesn't have as much detail as it could, but it takes time and people to create such things. If FreeBSD is lacking in documentation it is not the book, it is because Linux has the enormous "How To" library available to new users. Funny thing though, I used most of the Linux How To docs when first learning FreeBSD. As far as applications and services go like Samba, NIS, NFS, etc. Most of the Linux How To docs work with FreeBSD. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 04:16:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9636D16A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCA813C448 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCBF1F7127 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:16:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:16:21 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 9uOuCuwhIxJmqmuDT7Wp6CdrbNEUa2J0syFaGPp8Mp3L 1173672981 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEA91CCFF for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: questions@freebsd.org From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:16:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Subject: gcc internal error on buildkernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:16:21 -0000 Hello, After changing my make.conf to list my CPUTYPE as c3 on my VIA C3 Nehemiah (999.52-MHz 686-class CPU) system. I did a cvsup for /usr/src tag=RELENG_6_2 and successfully did a make buildworld and make installworld I then thought that with my newly compiled tools tuned for the processor in my box, I should rebuild my kernel. I made no changes to my kernel configuration file since my previous successful build a week and a half ago. However, now when I recompile the kernel, I get an internal compiler error from gcc. I rebooted the system and tried to build the kernel again, but got the same error. The last bit of the make output is -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2.3: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DOBBY; MAKESRCPATH=/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/ aicasm make -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -f /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/Makefile Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/obj/usr/src/ sys/DOBBY cc -O -pipe -nostdinc -I/usr/include -I. -I/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/ aicasm -c /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm.c /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm.c: In function `main': /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm.c:308: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction: 4 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DOBBY. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. The full script of the make is at http://ntp0.goldmark.org/temp/kernelbuild.log the output of dmesg is at http://ntp0.goldmark.org/temp/dmesg A copy of my make.conf is at http://ntp0.goldmark.org/temp/make.conf And a copy of my kernel configuration file is at http://ntp0.goldmark.org/temp/DOBBY Any clues or suggestions would be most welcome. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 04:36:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF86E16A405 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:36:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B2F13C455 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:36:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEDD1F7910; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:36:55 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: G8b11vEkgkWTLVxloKlHO5Lgv+kY8n/klIbODigx/C95 1173674215 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FD732447; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:36:55 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <6660f1280703112036y747c92a2w674ea46625830044@mail.gmail.com> References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> <6660f1280703112036y747c92a2w674ea46625830044@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8685CC04-17C7-4A25-AD0A-565311EE3001@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:36:52 -0500 To: Ed Zwart X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:36:55 -0000 [mailed and posted] On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Ed Zwart wrote: > I'm still a little fuzzy on legal entries for hostname and domain. I > set them to be mine, and it worked, and then for kicks, set it to > google.com, and that worked too. I looked at the headers, and can see > that the source can be traced back to my machine, but that still seems > kind of easy to spoof. It is extremely easy to spoof, but google has taken steps to make it easy for mail servers to detect if mail is spoofed. So if you send mail from "google.com" without it coming from your network, than any server making use of SPF (Sender Policy Framewokr) would immediately identify it as a spoof, and will be blocked. To learn more about this system, see http://www.openspf.org/ > Anyway, it's not something I'm overly worried > about; I'm just not clear on what I SHOULD be using for hostname and > domain. Well, what is a hostname for the machine that is sending the mail. Since you are now going through your ISPs mailserver, it doesn't need to be a hostname that can be looked up. So something like mailout.my.dom.ain should do fine. Use your real domain for the my.dom.ain part. The more correct information you provide, the less mail from your system will look like spam. But even "localhost.local" would be OK (though a useful domain name would be better). Using "google.com" would make it look like you are up to no good. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 04:47:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A959316A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed.zwart@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDE613C459 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed.zwart@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1747708nfc for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:47:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s8YbFoX9fjrCpM7fCqyZ0AyWTSUjNny28tbQXUMPXRW8r7TzsjDBi3t+9NRRls8mhd0x6mmTe8jNzZfB76N1q2eokwvOiq1redzOmoHrVXrYN4Gb536cASVZuGce2bPwCkIYmrNmUX8oc38v/7dXqpnToXzIBjhUQotONeLlHv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f7Zz6SgnBxrSGximf4GV6REgn9BbaiDcQIA7JFNvXX5bB17mzIkykn8H5u9ot4puADSaBhGoayDg2adpMv0qdXggv0pTWDMLB3e+JmgkKqKnDzl27PGdrBUwxVe8gu/JT6jG37ze3Z/pKox9p2hovy5W2HPwh60C865zjXLRZ1g= Received: by 10.82.108.9 with SMTP id g9mr7480188buc.1173674843616; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.185.13 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6660f1280703112147p17ec0c6dq73f5167f58c96676@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:47:23 -0800 From: "Ed Zwart" To: "Jeffrey Goldberg" In-Reply-To: <8685CC04-17C7-4A25-AD0A-565311EE3001@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> <6660f1280703112036y747c92a2w674ea46625830044@mail.gmail.com> <8685CC04-17C7-4A25-AD0A-565311EE3001@goldmark.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:47:25 -0000 Jeffrey, what you've suggested is what I've done. Thanks for the explanation! e. On 3/11/07, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > [mailed and posted] > > On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Ed Zwart wrote: > > > I'm still a little fuzzy on legal entries for hostname and domain. I > > set them to be mine, and it worked, and then for kicks, set it to > > google.com, and that worked too. I looked at the headers, and can see > > that the source can be traced back to my machine, but that still seems > > kind of easy to spoof. > > It is extremely easy to spoof, but google has taken steps to make it > easy for mail servers to detect if mail is spoofed. So if you send > mail from "google.com" without it coming from your network, than any > server making use of SPF (Sender Policy Framewokr) would immediately > identify it as a spoof, and will be blocked. > > To learn more about this system, see > > http://www.openspf.org/ > > > > Anyway, it's not something I'm overly worried > > about; I'm just not clear on what I SHOULD be using for hostname and > > domain. > > Well, what is a hostname for the machine that is sending the mail. > Since you are now going through your ISPs mailserver, it doesn't need > to be a hostname that can be looked up. So something like > > mailout.my.dom.ain > > should do fine. Use your real domain for the my.dom.ain part. The > more correct information you provide, the less mail from your system > will look like spam. But even "localhost.local" would be OK (though a > useful domain name would be better). Using "google.com" would make it > look like you are up to no good. > > -j > > > > > -- > Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 04:55:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F8D16A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA32013C468 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so1895301muf for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:55:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ib0slN/cgAIg2+AdnaZ0KGEPsDjE20QzQO+jr0MGs0jKkv4yHlfZ/tKFWNdofGJC9tR1N5TgCyicBGo8d1KU1fT2YeUvizXx/sIy1g68F0p7O/b4XP2CRBhMXCBvERrEuRpidafKDJf7EfowX2oxBcPBYLIPCcXu1qDio+dvkc8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=n2fOz9RIQcTBNWWe9X8Uz0LdbPZ6R413N6mer8PZsmID1rCRSdSoN6yRmsTMojN3FBBdDSGhqH5uBnQ0q3cDKj4aIkvPKM4x8s2COaSs242CD7ooxNX7VVPk1kO9mpT9e+ZRljOo5t6zxmEnZcsdPzkKGiCABh82/M0toUMXM5Y= Received: by 10.82.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr7474676bud.1173675322665; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.176.4 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:55:22 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Susanth K" In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Best OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:55:25 -0000 On 10/03/07, Susanth K wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Am a beginner to *BSD OS. > > Am interested in setting up intel / AMD based Free and Open Source Server ( > No GUI required ) > > Prime area is Webserver With PHP/MySQL Support and Ruby On Rails. + > PostgreSQL > > Which os Will be the BEST ? > > A) Debian Linux > B) OpenBSD > C) FreeBSD > > Which project has good Support and Active Development ? > > Please help me to choose None of them are missing any vital feature to do as you wish. As this is on the FreeBSD list, and most of us being most familiar with FreeBSD, I am certain the conclusions flow rather easily from there. The same would apply should you ask on an OpenBSD list or a Debian list. As there are no particularly horrible underlying flaws in any of the above operating systems, the easiest solution may be to merely shrug the shoulders and blindly pick one. If someone you know already uses one of these systems, that may be the path of least resistance. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 05:16:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3217216A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD27813C458 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1754009nfc for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:16:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NflDfqsr6ZQ7VreKgAJQmNN4f5FB1M3qKRZXXojkS321ABybPaEeag0rc0Bya+RupZh9aA6wHVYj5hsW3zFjBYjWZIJJzF2DrzwNNl75Nirv/9sRFvwqE4Ovwclyg0BMaHNdLVgRg7Yb9w/foTBpnpWXBYp5NoengYNxVa3f/48= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lnxwS5shn7RgY6tRmKMRyO41AuYygxaHQ1DLQrCeoPh6aNafPiAT7tYoXH1cFgHEZNPsRyDb4+AL8mCoZXQeZDiSQOepElUUng3fpgQYd0CaTBj39XyLdR3zHmRV+nHfloF25T8U2s7Nh1Q2EOFouPr84TV6iF6U8n9CVbwB0Gg= Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr7471494buc.1173676582291; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.176.4 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:16:22 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Brian J. Conway" In-Reply-To: <20070311221556.2d41802a.bconway@clue4all.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070310105759.6980f90e.bconway@clue4all.net> <20070311221556.2d41802a.bconway@clue4all.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:16:24 -0000 On 11/03/07, Brian J. Conway wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:57:59 -0500 > "Brian J. Conway" wrote: > > > > I had exactly the same problem in my acpi-blacklisted motherboard. I > > > disabled acpi and the errors vanished. In my case, this error was not > > > related with NICs, but exclusively with the motherboard. > > > > Interesting. I hadn't thought of that, but I am using ACPI now where I > > was not on 4.x. I'll give that a try next time it happens. I would > > have hoped the motherboard would be up to par (Intel D845GVSR with the > > latest BIOS - > > http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D845GVSR/index.htm), but maybe > > not. Thanks. > > > > (Sorry for the bad threading, I'm off list and copying off the web > > archive.) > > > > Brian J. Conway > > No luck, got the first timeout shortly (25 min) after boot without ACPI, > again while mostly idle and I'm not able to repeat it more than once a day > or so: > > Mar 12 01:49:19 imogen kernel: xl0: watchdog timeout > Mar 12 01:49:19 imogen kernel: xl0: link state changed to DOWN > Mar 12 01:49:21 imogen kernel: xl0: link state changed to UP > > Any other ideas? Original post, for reference: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-March/144227.html My first suspicion was that your NIC is dying. I had those basic symptoms some years ago and within a few days was suffering unintended reboots from kernel panics. Replacing the NIC solved it. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 05:20:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFAB16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B894213C468 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1754824nfc for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:20:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Ix1qLsNbrZCaG9CWB2UrHIWXtmzUHDHqyiJd5X9KKrOxAQW3GE+zibyfhtSV7cqvu7040hvIDFlLUP/w6wGAF1RCTpTkLOBcXqnIPkFiQY6WeShYT0xrlNYjrZrShrcBZBrkEVi0Sgu7iaBWqMjkNGdwKPe18AYaszX7DD9BeNg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Lo0+WpXa3S/u38vHhCcahYJ+SjIaOr9uTA0a4GCC5S05vt9FesjdnglwDSoWs6TLbB5b7LiKFsEuJ/IKaIdvFlk/2MyPh/k/wymm3QAQ4NygXKt5HuH0LeNS7NN4AQO7rRRfPGjrMMTftwDZIcueXf1s10ThnLlqjm78zWAshlI= Received: by 10.115.74.1 with SMTP id b1mr1105831wal.1173676805788; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.148.18 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0703112220y6f6dba6fhb3784a54682dacc9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:20:05 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: "Joe Auty" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: FreeBSD Questions , ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP 5.2.1 and the hard time with vbulletin 3.6.4 (solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:20:08 -0000 On 2/27/07, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > On 2/26/07, Joe Auty wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Have you recompiled all PHP extensions too? > > > > I believe the php5-pcre extension might handle perl regular > > expressions (preg_replace) in PHP. > > > > Yes I did portupgrade -f "php*" > > There is a thread about it in vbulletin > > http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1312516#post1312516 > > -- > Regards, > > -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri > Arab Portal > http://www.WeArab.Net/ > This how I got it fixed. portupgrade -frR pcre-utf8-7.0 portupgrade -frR php5-pcre-5.2.1_3 Could someone tell me please why did I need to do this to get it fixed? -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 05:22:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CBF16A47B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bconway@clue4all.net) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.200.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF9513C455 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bconway@clue4all.net) Received: from ladyluck.clue4all.net (c-24-63-37-229.hsd1.nh.comcast.net[24.63.37.229]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2007031205221701400rs115e>; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:22:17 +0000 Received: from ladyluck.clue4all.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ladyluck.clue4all.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A50FA2D4118; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:22:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:22:17 -0400 From: "Brian J. Conway" To: "illoai@gmail.com" Message-Id: <20070312012217.0c325b4b.bconway@clue4all.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20070310105759.6980f90e.bconway@clue4all.net> <20070311221556.2d41802a.bconway@clue4all.net> Organization: Clue 4 All, Inc. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:22:22 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:16:22 -0600 "illoai@gmail.com" wrote: > > No luck, got the first timeout shortly (25 min) after boot without > > ACPI, again while mostly idle and I'm not able to repeat it more than > > once a day or so: > > > > Mar 12 01:49:19 imogen kernel: xl0: watchdog timeout > > Mar 12 01:49:19 imogen kernel: xl0: link state changed to DOWN > > Mar 12 01:49:21 imogen kernel: xl0: link state changed to UP > > > > Any other ideas? Original post, for reference: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-March/144227.html > > My first suspicion was that your NIC is dying. > I had those basic symptoms some years ago > and within a few days was suffering unintended > reboots from kernel panics. Replacing the NIC > solved it. It's possible, but I've tried 3 different 3c905C's between the two (top-most) slots I'm using for them, and they all have the same symptom, though never both at the same time. They also worked flawlessly before this latest install (though admittedly, the old install was 4.x, as mentioned). I suppose swapping in other card models and perhaps enabling the onboard EEPro 100 is next. Thanks. Brian J. Conway From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 05:28:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4205116A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from mail.geekdelivery.com (s205-206-56-226.ab.hsia.telus.net [205.206.56.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B7013C46A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([70.65.134.12]) by media32.ca (mail.geekdelivery.com) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50000026727.msg for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:27:10 -0700 From: Ray To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:27:45 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703112327.46159.ray@stilltech.net> X-MDRemoteIP: 70.65.134.12 X-Return-Path: ray@stilltech.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) X-Spam-Report: * -4.7 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.7 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Processed: mail.geekdelivery.com, Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:27:11 -0700 X-MDAV-Processed: mail.geekdelivery.com, Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:27:12 -0700 Subject: Re: The Best OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ray@stilltech.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:28:15 -0000 On Sunday 11 March 2007 10:55 pm, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 10/03/07, Susanth K wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > > > Am a beginner to *BSD OS. > > > > Am interested in setting up intel / AMD based Free and Open Source Server > > ( No GUI required ) > > > > Prime area is Webserver With PHP/MySQL Support and Ruby On Rails. + > > PostgreSQL > > > > Which os Will be the BEST ? > > > > A) Debian Linux > > B) OpenBSD > > C) FreeBSD > > > > Which project has good Support and Active Development ? > > > > Please help me to choose > > None of them are missing any vital feature to > do as you wish. > > As this is on the FreeBSD list, and most of us > being most familiar with FreeBSD, I am certain > the conclusions flow rather easily from there. > > The same would apply should you ask on an > OpenBSD list or a Debian list. > > As there are no particularly horrible underlying > flaws in any of the above operating systems, > the easiest solution may be to merely shrug > the shoulders and blindly pick one. If someone > you know already uses one of these systems, > that may be the path of least resistance. As a slightly experienced user, I've been watching this thread with interest. I must say that the answers, in light of the obvious bias, reflect well on the list members! Regards, Ray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 05:43:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AC616A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8A513C469 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1759521nfc for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:43:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z8i9HmKCUBZdDQ6OPSFm5C85lhynIPz7szTcfnjgm07l3bjIo+ibnM9+OK3IuRbsbnAoEbilt5lBXWyelhlK16Za/Xl52sjwC+xDMzgD9T3dg1Agmi/AqkuG7R5vRlf3ifGUEOS589BL8d4eb9BDzXXLf1eSr+Y9vzSzB0DRP/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lCxJmbSSg4jSL0rIqdZqQ8UJh7oxxyxqRrSIX1rOeGVpVvfa7Lhnm2Dm/Pj+Wm7vZVlfeiI90qOWy7fVn3NrIhg3hvsr4dLAdGK1N2STrZTQO8XVI5DPbXEg3x0jJ63r1zKDiYV0IS4hnA1dGdLDEFXPE80OnJn2XfyvuEQMZ9Y= Received: by 10.82.116.15 with SMTP id o15mr7474499buc.1173678234338; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.176.4 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:43:54 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Jonathan Horne" In-Reply-To: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:43:55 -0000 On 11/03/07, Jonathan Horne wrote: > ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from > work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so > far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. > > id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id like to try > some of the lesser known, but still just as functional desktops. > > can i get some recommendations, as well as what graphical mail reader and web > browser works best with your recommendation? evilwm on xorg with xfmail and opera and an .xinitrc of: evilwm & exec xsetroot -cursor_name ul_angle & exec xset m 19/5 12 b 90 880 12 & exec swisswatch -geometry -0+0 -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 06:02:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F9016A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD39B13C45E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so1909666muf for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:02:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=acIhRRdFaJgfkoBvbKPntJvLm6B/zBl0P9d6czxNK+utqdaQBxFFSH7PLu4cvaGC4gf50OHUbOChJBr6J8WZjv33u4hl+ovjKy8p02PASDtkfyBxDCJhvqqUMlO8a1JkyU6ZpB7UncPtzOYLmz8zphjjU8GRo3XRq/Kw1ZYM05Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L8BAgAb3Gkwl9fet0/7m+/Se/l4+u+H7GDkKshr58wrZ7UEBvmnuQhTLmOetQzIcWZj32NlOf2VqeWgenSLFqUP0VMJk1nGfdluaHYBHqvuEWyFPmTEZ6DL0ILWIk8AfoItcdPjpuCtPYIVvaWlEey5W2hB++SPu+/r0y6wLYfY= Received: by 10.82.108.9 with SMTP id g9mr7494941buc.1173679339408; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.176.4 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:02:19 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <765930.99936.qm@web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070311214721.O52046@chylonia.3miasto.net> <765930.99936.qm@web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cc: Paulette McGee , Wojciech Puchar , Andy Kendall Subject: Re: Manual updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:02:21 -0000 On 11/03/07, Paulette McGee wrote: > > --- Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > As a newb to FreeBSD I find that the > > manual/handbook is not great in detail, > > > (understatement), and I seem to be relying on this > > questions list for a lot > > > of help. > > > > what's missing? i think it's quite detailed . . . > Yes, the handbook is quite detailed; however there are > somethings missing. Not to start a flame war; these > are just a few thoughts and they are in my humble > opinion. . . . > 1) Update ports > 1a) CVS > 2b) portsnap > 2) Build INDEX (depends on the tool; identify tools). > Also what are the pro's and con's of obtaining the > index from the methods listed below. > 2a) "make index" > 2b) "make fetchindex" > 2c) portsdb -Uu > 3) Use Tool 'X' to update / upgrade your ports . . . > Now, one other issue; off the top of my head: > pkgtools.conf. How does pkgtools.conf interact with > the makefile in their respective ports directory? > 1) Does it completely override it? > 2) Does if it take a diff between the two and build > the app? portsdb is part of portupgrade, not at all part of the base system. Similarly, pkgtools.conf, being located in /usr/local/etc/ is used by portupgrade (and another ports management tool?) which is not at all part of the base system. portupgrade has quite a bit of documentation on its use, but I am not certain how this third party ruby script dovetails with a discussion of the (de)merits of FreeBSD's handbook. Obviously with enough time and effort a complete set of documents for 6.2 could be compiled and vetted for accuracy, although just like the current handbook and other documentation, it would fall out of date exactly as fast as new code would be added. Keeping up to date with third party applications (ruby scripts!) would exacerbate rather than ameliorate this effect. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 07:19:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4782C16A405 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@cshw.net) Received: from gothmog.akp-net.com (gothmog.akp-net.com [194.126.172.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC5E13C44B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@cshw.net) Received: from p579a8fc5.dip.t-dialin.net ([87.154.143.197] helo=ANGBAND) by gothmog.akp-net.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HQeoK-00022D-BO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:19:12 +0100 From: "Alexander Schlichting" To: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:18:25 +0100 Message-ID: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcdkdqAKWlHw1W0oTA+b71I/wWbKuQ== Content-Language: de Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Recover Make ARG's from a ports Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:19:14 -0000 On a server I have a package installed using ports and now I have to install the package with exactly the same make arguments on another server. I just don't find a way to see what arguments where used to install it the first time. With Linux I would look into config.status is there something similar with FreeBSD? Sorry for having to ask but I am using FreeBSD for the first days now after 5 years using Linux only :) -Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 07:29:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49ADF16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from illusion.skoberne.net (illusion.skoberne.net [84.255.205.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047C613C43E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by illusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6751B81C; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:29:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from illusion.skoberne.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (illusion.skoberne.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30884-03; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:29:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.12.4] (unknown [192.168.12.4]) by illusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348D0B819; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:29:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F5014E.8080908@skoberne.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:29:18 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Nejc_=A9koberne?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hamilton References: <074301c7643c$ec68e060$6600a8c0@w2k2> In-Reply-To: <074301c7643c$ec68e060$6600a8c0@w2k2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD on IDE Flash disk drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:29:42 -0000 Hi Paul, > I am booting from a 512MB CF card, and run /var and /tmp from a RAM drive. > Upon startup, the CF card /var and /tmp dir. are copied into the ram drives, > the rest is Read Only. When it shuts down (not very often), the ram drive > contents are copied back to the CF card. You could backup the ram drive to > CF more frequently if required. I run off of 12V battery, so power failures > don't affect me all that much. You could monitor the Battery/UPS for power > failure conditions if needed etc. Running FreeBSD 6.0. Cool! Is there a "proper" way of copying from/to /var and /tmp at boot and at shutdown or did you make the scripts on your own? So far, my boxie has be running flawlessly, I have also hard-rebooted it during a file copy and everything was OK with the filesystem. However, I put in two flash drives and made a gmirror out of them for redundancy. Today I am putting it to a remote location and I hope everything will run there too. Thanks to all, Nejc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 07:47:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DF816A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBB213C46A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2C7lMhi027892; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:47:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2C7lLYD027885; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:47:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:47:21 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Sergio Lenzi In-Reply-To: <1173664836.3731.26.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070312084603.C26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> <1173646778.3731.2.camel@localhost> <8a0028260703111458w11f31b71se2a3134d18e624a8@mail.gmail.com> <1173664836.3731.26.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: Vt102 at home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:47:25 -0000 > > Like Mr Wojciech Puchar, I have a VT100 clone here at home... that I > use for kernel > debug on a 9600 com1 port... and it works soo good.. > > May be when you are 55 (or 64 as the beatles song)... you will use > konsole and the "boys" will use > some kind of "brain cortex" wired interface.... and some will still use minimal interfaces because it's more functional. and i think my wyse will still work, because such old things works very long and doesn't fail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 08:01:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC5316A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078C913C455 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2C819lk029436; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:01:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2C817rE029431; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:01:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:01:07 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Eric Schuele In-Reply-To: <45F4CEE5.7040005@computer.org> Message-ID: <20070312084742.Q26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> <20070311233953.C64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F4CEE5.7040005@computer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Sean Bryant Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:01:33 -0000 >> default, window frames and titles removed, >> >> all screen available for ACTUAL USE. >> > > All easily attainable in E17. :) put a config for E17 for those interested. my .fvwm2rc, but it uses /etc/wm-menus/Fvwm-pl with program menu. you may write it yourself or use my "menugen" program. set with assumption that it's 1024x768 screen WindowFont -adobe-courier-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-2 MenuStyle white black white -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-2 fvwm OpaqueMoveSize 100 EdgeScroll 5 5 EdgeResistance 10000 10000 DeskTopSize 2x2 #ImagePath /usr/pkg/share/fvwm2/images/:/usr/pkg/include/X11/pixmaps/: Style "*" NoTitle, HintOverride, SmartPlacement, NoPPosition, BorderWidth 0, HandleWidth 0 Style "Fvwm*" Sticky, WindowListSkip Read /etc/wm-menus/Fvwm-pl DestroyMenu "StartMenu" AddToMenu "StartMenu" + "FreeBSD Apps" Popup FreeBSD + "Quit fvwm2" Quit + "Restart Fvwm2" Restart #AddToFunc "Move-or-Raise" "M" Move #+ "M" Raise #+ "C" Raise #+ "D" Maximize 100 100 Mouse 1 I A Iconify False Mouse 1 W C Maximize 100 100 Mouse 2 W C RaiseLower Mouse 3 WI C Close Mouse 1 W 4 Move Mouse 2 WI 4 Iconify Mouse 3 W 4 Resize Key Right A 4 Desk 1 Key Left A 4 Desk -1 Key F1 A 4 Desk 0 0 Key F2 A 4 Desk 0 1 Key F3 A 4 Desk 0 2 Key F4 A 4 Desk 0 3 Key F5 A 4 Desk 0 4 Key F6 A 4 Desk 0 5 Key F7 A 4 Desk 0 6 Key F8 A 4 Desk 0 7 Key F9 A 4 Desk 0 8 Key F10 A 4 Desk 0 9 Key F11 A 4 Desk 0 10 Key F12 A 4 Desk 0 11 Key F1 A C Desk 0 21 Key F2 A C Desk 0 22 Key F3 A C Desk 0 23 Key F4 A C Desk 0 24 Key F5 A C Desk 0 25 Key F6 A C Desk 0 26 Key F7 A C Desk 0 27 Key F8 A C Desk 0 28 Key F9 A C Desk 0 29 Key F10 A C Desk 0 30 Key F11 A C Desk 0 31 Key F12 A C Desk 0 32 Key M A 4 Menu "StartMenu" Key Menu A A Menu "StartMenu" Key X A 4 Exec exec xterm -geometry 102x38+0+0 -ls Key W A 4 WindowList From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 08:01:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FA216A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BE513C45B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2C81vut029538; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:01:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2C81uoY029535; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:01:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:01:56 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: <8685CC04-17C7-4A25-AD0A-565311EE3001@goldmark.org> Message-ID: <20070312090120.G26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> <6660f1280703112036y747c92a2w674ea46625830044@mail.gmail.com> <8685CC04-17C7-4A25-AD0A-565311EE3001@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Ed Zwart , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:01:59 -0000 > of SPF (Sender Policy Framewokr) would immediately identify it as a spoof, > and will be blocked. > > To learn more about this system, see > > http://www.openspf.org/ if the same machine is for sending and receiving mail simply putting IN TXT "v=spf1 mx -all" is OK and enough From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 08:03:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89A816A410 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5705913C483 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2C839Xs029707; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:03:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2C839Pj029704; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:03:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:03:09 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: "illoai@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070312090238.E26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:03:15 -0000 >> web >> browser works best with your recommendation? > > evilwm on xorg with xfmail and opera and an .xinitrc of: > > evilwm & > exec xsetroot -cursor_name ul_angle & > exec xset m 19/5 12 b 90 880 12 & > exec swisswatch -geometry -0+0 the best watch using least space on screen is the one hanging on the wall :) > > -- > -- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 08:28:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0581216A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2290B13C43E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-58-223.51-151.net24.it [151.51.223.58]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2BJI6SW043058 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:18:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2BJA8ZR073042 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:10:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <45F453E3.3070809@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:09:23 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 212.31.247.179 Subject: Box reboots when X.org goes fullscreen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:28:18 -0000 Hello. I'm running FreeBSD 6.2/i386 with X.org 6.9.0 on a box with an MGA G450 card. As soon as I launch any app that tries to go fullscreen (e.g. dosbox), this box will reboot without displaying any message or leaving a crash dump. Any hint on how to start diagnosing this? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 08:39:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF3E16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl (psmtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.247.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B888413C45A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JES002WG595EL@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:39:06 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:39:04 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <45F50398.3040703@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:39:08 -0000 I am trying for several days now to get 3d acceleration working on FreebSD for my XFX 7800 GS. But nothing what I've tried worked :-( . Below is a collection of useful information I've gathered thus far. Who can help me? * # sysctl hw.nvidia.agp.status* hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) *# glxinfo | fgrep direct* Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: unable to open display (null) *# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep nvidia* (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" *# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep NVIDIA* (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 1.0-9746 Tue Dec 19 13:23:45 PST 2006 (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs (--) Chipset NVIDIA GPU found (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "NvAGP" "1" (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration (**) NVIDIA(0): Use of NVIDIA internal AGP requested (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 7800 GS at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0) (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 262144 kBytes (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.71.22.21.0a (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 7800 GS at PCI:1:0:0: (--) NVIDIA(0): PHILIPS 109S4 (CRT-0) (--) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0) (--) NVIDIA(0): PHILIPS 109S4 (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock (--) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock (--) NVIDIA(0): TV encoder: NVIDIA (II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: CRT-0 (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: (II) NVIDIA(0): "1280x1024" (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 1024 (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (90, 96); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config (--) NVIDIA(0): option (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024" (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled (**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled *# dmesg | grep nvidia* nvidia0: mem 0xfb000000-0xfbffffff,0xe0000000-0xefffffff,0xfa000000-0xfaffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] *# tail /boot/device.hints* [code]hint.ie.0.maddr="0xd0000" hint.fe.0.at="isa" hint.fe.0.disabled="1" hint.fe.0.port="0x300" hint.lnc.0.at="isa" hint.lnc.0.disabled="1" hint.lnc.0.port="0x280" hint.lnc.0.irq="10" hint.lnc.0.drq="0" hint.agp.0.disabled="1" *# cat /boot/loader.conf* nvidia_load="YES" linux_load="YES" snd_emu10k1_load="YES" *Motherboard:* Asus A8V deluxe Chipset VIA K8T800 Pro North bridge VIA K8T800 Pro South bridge VIA VT8237 *# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf* Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" # Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 360 270 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "PHL" ModelName "PHILIPS 109S4" ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: HorizSync 30.0 - 92.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "HWcursor" # [] #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "Rotate" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "FlatPanel" # [] #Option "FPDither" # [] #Option "CrtcNumber" # #Option "FPScale" # [] #Option "FPTweak" # Option "NvAGP" "1" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "Unknown Board" BusID "AGP:01:00:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 08:58:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3014416A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from mx.inode.at (mx16.lb01.inode.at [62.99.145.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB5413C45B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.pirko@inode.at) Received: from [85.124.24.66] (port=13512 helo=[192.168.1.11]) by smartmx-16.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HQgMN-0004oy-Gt; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:58:27 +0100 Message-ID: <45F51632.3030205@inode.at> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:58:26 +0100 From: Armin Pirkovitsch User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070311) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hxc@planet.nl, FreeBSD Questions References: <45F50398.3040703@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F50398.3040703@planet.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.3.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:58:29 -0000 hxc@planet.nl wrote: > I am trying for several days now to get 3d acceleration working on > FreebSD for my XFX 7800 GS. But nothing what I've tried worked :-( . > Below is a collection of useful information I've gathered thus far. Who > can help me? > *# glxinfo | fgrep direct* > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified try glxinfo as the user which runs the xserver not as root (and only when the x server is running) (or run xhost + as the user who runs the xserver before you use glxinfo as root or any other user - however i wouldn't recommend this version) -- Armin Pirkovitsch a.pirko@inode.at From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 09:21:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6944116A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88AE13C459 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:21:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2C9LRpi038654 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:21:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2C9LRC6038651 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:21:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:21:26 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45F453E3.3070809@netfence.it> Message-ID: <20070312102105.F38557@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <45F453E3.3070809@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Box reboots when X.org goes fullscreen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:21:29 -0000 > As soon as I launch any app that tries to go fullscreen (e.g. dosbox), this > box will reboot without displaying any message or leaving a crash dump. > > Any hint on how to start diagnosing this? make debug kernel (makeoptions DEBUG="-g") and see in the crash From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 09:23:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5040D16A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C322513C43E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2C9NOdn038888; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:23:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2C9NNMF038885; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:23:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:23:23 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: "Brian J. Conway" In-Reply-To: <20070312012217.0c325b4b.bconway@clue4all.net> Message-ID: <20070312102259.K38557@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310105759.6980f90e.bconway@clue4all.net> <20070311221556.2d41802a.bconway@clue4all.net> <20070312012217.0c325b4b.bconway@clue4all.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "illoai@gmail.com" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:23:34 -0000 >> reboots from kernel panics. Replacing the NIC >> solved it. > > It's possible, but I've tried 3 different 3c905C's between the two > (top-most) slots I'm using for them, and they all have the same symptom, set up speed and half/full duplex manually and it should fix a problem. at least did for me From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 09:36:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EF816A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8D513C44C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52FD1C87FF; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:12:14 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:37:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45F433D1.40802@fastmail.fm> In-Reply-To: <45F433D1.40802@fastmail.fm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703121137.16910.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Patrick Bowen Subject: Re: Assemblers for FreBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:36:15 -0000 On Sunday 11 March 2007 18:52, Patrick Bowen wrote: > If one wanted to learn Assembly Language Programming, would he be better > served starting with as(1) or nasm(1)? as(1) is the assembler used in the building procedure, making it your logical choice for operating system programming. It uses the AT&T syntax of UNIX heritage. It understands Intel's syntax as well. Keep in mind that the code in the tree is in AT&T syntax. I guess that must be true for all Unix-like operating systems. Last time I checked, nasm was intel only. I think that nasm mainly served people coming from DOS, people that already knew the Intel syntax. If I was about to try assembly, I would learn AT&T. I think there is more code in Intel syntax though, mainly in the graphics area. It depends on what your purpose is. Operating system programming is dominated by as(1). > Also, are either of those > applicable to AMD64, or just i386? Since as(1) is the only assembler in the tree, and FreeBSD can build itself... as(1) supports many machines... HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 09:42:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2418E16A407 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:42:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB6813C44C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1814735nfc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:42:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uEf4lcQ1dfy43DYijZPoBWiZMsoajWjYUb9okt06bPQrkLA4TV6CGW8BUim3J16i1BJRzNKqDeKoXxfxV0EkMuInN7FtW6JIsxJmgK7TDMHsEGUumT28ZapFVWZIcNCOmTELcRuE+8YDuKcNedg7GD+hthEIhT2KjkcAt0bK8r0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IAfEdty5doHQ9vmAxLeNVCbCCg8M27WuJaHeClBK1nNBhqppOJURzUYkrpNszOgx9o4xulBWHzxnc7wGYSDCtxdUUVSnpxpxMrs5Q0/WNW+sgv2jrx/vr4KlXDxYb+5HVAgL2qe3C1TT7KyaT1u8SV83qCEQx5Rr8IxNuwmtVbk= Received: by 10.82.113.6 with SMTP id l6mr7678272buc.1173692532455; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.176.4 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:42:12 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20070312090238.E26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <20070312090238.E26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:42:14 -0000 On 12/03/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> web > >> browser works best with your recommendation? > > > > evilwm on xorg with xfmail and opera and an .xinitrc of: > > > > evilwm & > > exec xsetroot -cursor_name ul_angle & > > exec xset m 19/5 12 b 90 880 12 & > > exec swisswatch -geometry -0+0 > > the best watch using least space on screen is the one hanging on the wall > :) > Something needs to be the key process, evilwm does not care to handle shutting down X. alt-tab to swisswatch, ctl-alt-esc and X closes down rather more neatly than ctl-alt-bkspc. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 09:49:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AC416A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077D513C46A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBBB1EE884 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:24:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Score: 0.055 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.055 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=0.055] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uqvYv9MYdmQc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:24:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [172.17.0.160] (c-195-216-040-164.cust.thalamus.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE47E1EE822 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:24:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F51C35.7080600@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:24:05 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem with kdm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:49:57 -0000 Hi I have a little problem with kdm. When I try to sign on the screen reverts back to the login dialog after a few seconds. I can use xdm without any problems. The problem started when I switched my soundcard from an external soundblaster to the onboard Intel. I'm using the Intel HDA driver and it works! The KDE sound does not work but mplayer for example has sound. I've recompiled KDE but there's no change. I need suggestions on how to analyze this problem and to get kdm to work again. Thanks Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 10:05:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279EC16A40E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9935A13C465 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CA53vB043879; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:05:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CA521I043876; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:05:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:05:02 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Vulpes Velox In-Reply-To: <20070311194326.4da9e341@vixen42> Message-ID: <20070312110429.D43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <6faf55220703100845u62eab431y3a16ae0d8cb3bba7@mail.gmail.com> <55D533EB-26F9-40B7-838B-8BCB9D0A9463@tca-cable-connector.com> <20070310223906.E8914@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311194326.4da9e341@vixen42> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: David Schulz , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Howmany CPU Does FreeBSD Support ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:05:05 -0000 >> for machines doing mostly fileserving and routing even 2 CPUs may >> be not well utilized > > That is only true if the process is giant locked. When look at dmesg, > look for things that say GIANT-LOCKED and those will be ones confined > to one processor. There has been a massive push since 5 to get ride > of those. top shows giant-lock RARELY when i observe my machines. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 10:07:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C522A16A404 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF0013C4AE for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CA6csm044078; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:06:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CA6b7s044075; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:06:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:06:37 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20070311234900.GB60396@kobe.laptop> Message-ID: <20070312110522.O43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <6faf55220703110951g63c92218p1b3865be3999047e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311234900.GB60396@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Susanth K , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD's Implementation Language X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:07:01 -0000 > > Sort of. Great parts of FreeBSD, in fact the vast majority of > the source code, is written in C. But it is not *completely* > written in C. groff is in C++ AFAIK, lots of shell or perl code to support compiling, some assembly, adaptec microcode assembler etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 10:09:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CBA16A405 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF7413C455 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230241C8834; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:45:17 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: Modulok Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:10:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <64c038660703080349t3311fa22lf8e6ba736db330ed@mail.gmail.com> <200703091608.47529.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <64c038660703091352u7d8e498eq8049b78a34933555@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660703091352u7d8e498eq8049b78a34933555@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703121210.19301.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kill a hanged disk i/o process... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:09:17 -0000 On Friday 09 March 2007 23:52, Modulok wrote: > "How do I work-around a situation where cp, hangs forever?" You can try several things: 1) mount read-only and try to copy the data. dd(1) might be a better choice than cp(1), read more bellow. 2) unmount and dump(8) the filesystem. 3) use dd(1) to copy the filesystem to a file(use conv=noerror,sync to ignore I/O errors) I assume that: 1) your operating system lives in a healthy disk and 2) you have the needed space in this healthy disk to copy the data. Keep in mind the warning from the BUGS section in mount(8) manual page: It is possible for a corrupted file system to cause a crash. I would use method 3 first, which would give me the opportunity to try different things, without having to do them on the actual filesystem, but on the file- backed filesystem, for example fsck(8). HTH, Nikos > > -Modulok- > > On 3/9/07, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > > On Friday 09 March 2007 15:28, Modulok wrote: > > > Thank you for your reply, it was quite informative and very much > > > appreciated, but the underlying question remains un-answered: > > > > > > How do you kill a hanged process that (seemingly) cannot be killed because > > > of the two conditions below? > > > > > > -It's hanged, so it's not ever going to self terminate. > > > -It's a disk i/o process so not even root can kill it. > > > > > > > As I said before disk I/O is irrelevant. > > > > > The gentle shutdown solution doesn't work: Even during shutdown the > > process > > > cannot be killed: it's hanged, it's disk i/o. > > > > > > How do you kill an un-killable process? > > > > What makes you believe there is another official way > > to kill a process? > > > > Perhaps you should ask "How do I work-around a situation > > where my rm, cp, whatever hang forever?", if that's what > > you are looking for. > > > > > -Modulok- > > > > > > > > > On 3/9/07, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thursday 08 March 2007 13:49, Modulok wrote: > > > > > To the best of my knowledge, most processes can be killed explicitly > > > > > by "kill -s KILL;" There are a few which cannot, such as disk i/o > > > > > processes. The idea here is data integrity. > > > > > > > > A process might be in cannot-be-killed condition while > > > > in kernel e.g. during a system call. That has to do with > > > > the completion of the system call, not with data integrity. > > > > The kernel tries to complete what was asked for. > > > > > > > > Also, Killing a process with SIGKILL is far from safe. To put > > > > it in another way "data integrity" can be guaranteed only > > > > by the program itself. For example it could have a defined > > > > behavior when it is signaled by e.g. SIGTERM, for example > > > > clean up data and exit. Or not. It's up to the programmer. > > > > Sending a SIGKILL will not give that chance. SIGKILL can > > > > not be handled. It will be terminated as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > Also, separate the meanings "data integrity" and "filesystem > > > > data integrity". The filesystem will be in fine condition when > > > > a process gets killed by SIGKILL during file I/O, the data in > > > > the file most probably not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the rare occasion however, (when attempting to recover data from > > > > > corrupt disks for example), I've had a process invoked by the "cp" > > > > > command, hang. This poses a significant problem as these processes are > > > > > disk i/o processes, and as such cannot be terminated (even by root). > > > > > So, other than physically hitting the reset button on the case, is > > > > > there a more eloquent method of forcefully halting a hanged disk i/o > > > > > process? The idea of "you don't want to terminate a disk i/o process, > > > > > it could corrupt the data" isn't really a good argument, because if > > > > > the process hangs and I have to punch the reset button anyway what's > > > > > the difference? > > > > > > > > "Pressing the button" will leave your filesystem in a undefined state, > > > > you are risking filesystem integrity. Keep in mind that while in use > > > > (open files etc) a filesystem cannot be unmounted. Anyway, try to shut > > > > the computer down, it's far more gentle than pressing the button. At > > > > least the rest of the filesystems will be cleanly unmounted. > > > > > > > > Is there something in particular you want to achieve? > > > > > > > > Nikos > > > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 10:09:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422C116A40B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FD513C4AE for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:09:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CA9F2K044370; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:09:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CA9FA7044367; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:09:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:09:14 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Roger Olofsson In-Reply-To: <45F46BAD.6030307@passagen.se> Message-ID: <20070312110850.A43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F46BAD.6030307@passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:09:21 -0000 > They're minimalistic and slick to use. If you should need to connect with a > windows box there's Xming. Look in the archives! what is Xming? with grep -i xming /usr/ports/INDEX nothing found From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 10:10:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0CA16A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDB613C45A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CAAEj3044503; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:10:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CAABmd044500; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:10:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:10:11 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: NetOpsCenter In-Reply-To: <45F46A6A.7070400@hdk5.net> Message-ID: <20070312110943.E43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F438DC.8050508@fastmail.fm> <45F46A6A.7070400@hdk5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Patrick Bowen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:10:17 -0000 > I have used XFCE 3.* on all my free BSD boxes for years. It is a Simple GUI > which I use on any Desktops I build. The video is clear and is simple. ( > XFCE4* I did not like the concept.) Emails etc all work and install easily > from ports. one of the best choices for those who want "desktop". but is it needed at all? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 10:24:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954B816A40B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A30D13C489 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1534490wxc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.113.16 with SMTP id l16mr10133748wxc.1173695074748; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i38sm8726511wxd.2007.03.12.03.24.33; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:24:19 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070312062419.64896959@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070312110943.E43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F438DC.8050508@fastmail.fm> <45F46A6A.7070400@hdk5.net> <20070312110943.E43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> Organization: Seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_VY6=g5Qbb6Ob+NoP7XPp2rr"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:24:35 -0000 --Sig_VY6=g5Qbb6Ob+NoP7XPp2rr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:10:11 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > I have used XFCE 3.* on all my free BSD boxes for years. It is a > > Simple GUI which I use on any Desktops I build. The video is clear > > and is simple. ( XFCE4* I did not like the concept.) Emails etc > > all work and install easily from ports. > one of the best choices for those who want "desktop". but is it > needed at all? It is for someone who wants to work in that environment. --=20 Gerard When confronted by a difficult problem, you can often solve it quite easily by reducing it to the question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?" --Sig_VY6=g5Qbb6Ob+NoP7XPp2rr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF9SpfFCqdq4D1ybYRAh20AKC07zcSk5GXYZi6jpsFyjv6MwgwoQCbBZ83 mSGT/lSfxCDqY8aUYrdAZAM= =qnuG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_VY6=g5Qbb6Ob+NoP7XPp2rr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 10:29:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED9616A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from PETER.HARRISON@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) Received: from mail39.messagelabs.com (mail39.messagelabs.com [193.109.254.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2EBB13C46E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:29:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from PETER.HARRISON@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: PETER.HARRISON@dwp.gsi.gov.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-39.messagelabs.com!1173695340!20594235!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7.1; banners=dwp.gsi.gov.uk,-,- X-Originating-IP: [195.92.40.48] Received: (qmail 19061 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 10:29:00 -0000 Received: from gateway-201.energis.gsi.gov.uk (HELO mx.hosting-e.gsi.gov.uk) (195.92.40.48) by server-2.tower-39.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 10:29:00 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:27:40 -0000 Message-ID: <0740B9A6C3639441850D84E94767945C02EAAC29@DMM00038.link2.gpn.gov.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Help needed syncing Palm Treo 650 with FreeBSD Thread-Index: AcdimxPj7fB3D/EVS7+oW7pIcLsrcwB9XsTw From: "Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD" To: "Aniruddha" , "Vince" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2007 10:27:41.0227 (UTC) FILETIME=[1071AFB0:01C76491] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Help needed syncing Palm Treo 650 with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:29:03 -0000 -----Original=20Message----- From:=20Aniruddha=20[mailto:mailing_list@planet.nl] Sent:=2009=20March=202007=2022:36 To:=20Vince Cc:=20Harrison=20Peter=20CSA=20BIRKENHEAD;=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org= Subject:=20Re:=20Help=20needed=20syncing=20Palm=20Treo=20650=20with=20Free= BSD >Vince=20wrote:=20 >Aniruddha=20wrote: >=20=20 >Vince=20wrote: >=20=20=20=20 >for=20devfs.rules=20add=20something=20like >[system=3D10] >add=20path=20'ttyU*'=20mode=200666 > >to=20/etc/devfs.rules > >you=20also=20need=20to=20add >devfs_system_ruleset=3D"system" > >to=20rc.conf > > >Vince > >=20=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20 >Ok=20I=20will=20try=20that=20:-) >=20=20=20=20 >Oh=20i=20forgot=20to=20mention=20you=20will=20have=20to=20restart=20devfs= =20afterwards, >/etc/rc.d/devfs=20restart > >Vince > >=20=20 >Ehm=20I=20can't=20find=20=20/etc/devfs.rules: > > >ls=20/etc/=20|=20grep=20dev >devd.conf >devfs.conf You=20need=20to=20create=20/etc/devfs.rules=20if=20you've=20haven't=20used= =20it=20before.=20Vince=20has=20given=20you=20what=20you=20need=20to=20put= =20in=20the=20file,=20modifying=20rc.conf=20to=20pull=20your=20custom=20ru= leset=20in=20then=20restarting=20devfs. 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When I try to sign on the screen > reverts back to the login dialog after a few seconds. I can use xdm > without any problems. > > The problem started when I switched my soundcard from an external > soundblaster to the onboard Intel. I'm using the Intel HDA driver and it > works! The KDE sound does not work but mplayer for example has sound. > I don't think that these two are actually related. The Display Manager hasn't anything to do with the sound card, at least not after you entered username and password. So my guess is that you broke your KDM configuration somehow. The situation you describe usually means that the session you're trying to execute is invalid. This can have a variety of reasons. I can't help you here because I don't know what session you're trying to execute. Are you using KDE or Gnome, or do you have a ~/.xsession defined? If the latter is the case I doubt that kdm did work for you, because AFAIK KDM doesn't support Xsession. First check what session is execute upon login. There is a Session menu somewhere on the kdm login screen. Choose a session that you know does exist. > I've recompiled KDE but there's no change. > > I need suggestions on how to analyze this problem and to get kdm to work > again. HTH Christian > > Thanks > > Leslie > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 12:05:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF2F16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from psmtp03.wxs.nl (psmtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.247.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2D513C45A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by psmtp03.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JES00DUIHKJPJ@psmtp03.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:05:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:05:07 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:05:09 -0000 Running glxinfo as user works: $ glxinfo | fgrep direct direct rendering: Yes 3d acceleration still isn't working though :-( : $ sysctl hw.nvidia.agp.status hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 12:27:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBF416A404 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:27:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B469713C44B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:27:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id D1B2F380BA; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:27:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AD7380CC; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:27:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81-231-90-251-no41.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.90.251]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8B437E46; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:27:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F546BA.1060300@passagen.se> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:25:30 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Schlichting References: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> In-Reply-To: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recover Make ARG's from a ports Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:27:40 -0000 Hello Alexander, There's /var/db/ports/ for the result of make configure, if that is what you mean? Otherwise most ports should have their .conf and other settings in /usr/local/etc. Good luck! Alexander Schlichting skrev: > > > On a server I have a package installed using ports and now I have to install > the package with exactly the same make arguments on another server. I just > don't find a way to see what arguments where used to install it the first > time. With Linux I would look into config.status is there something similar > with FreeBSD? Sorry for having to ask but I am using FreeBSD for the first > days now after 5 years using Linux only :) > > > > -Alex > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 12:28:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2302D16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9811013C44B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CCSGDF060407; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:28:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CCSFEc060395; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:28:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:28:15 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Gerard Seibert In-Reply-To: <20070312062419.64896959@localhost> Message-ID: <20070312132401.T58112@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F438DC.8050508@fastmail.fm> <45F46A6A.7070400@hdk5.net> <20070312110943.E43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070312062419.64896959@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:28:22 -0000 > It is for someone who wants to work in that environment. > exactly, but it would be handy to define what "desktop" is. could someone provide me a definition? is X server alone a desktop? i think no. is KDE a desktop? i think yes from what i heard. is XFCE a desktop? i think too. so is my X server+fvwm2 having no visible icons, windows, frames etc. (but having a menu under keypress) a desktop or not? if yes - then we can define desktop as any software able to run graphics mode programs on graphics capable machine. like bash or csh for text mode. if no - what part of say KDE make it a desktop? i'm not trying to start any war, just want to hear a definition of so commonly used term today. Wojtek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 12:31:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A478A16A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7839E13C468 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2CCVNxc013774 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:31:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l2CCVN1d017433 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:31:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <200703121231.l2CCVN1d017433@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:33:36 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Post DST changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:31:24 -0000 I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST change this weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK # zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:59:59 2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:00:00 2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 And the command "date" gives the correct time. But until I restart some applications, I dont see the right times logged in syslog ?! e.g # date Mon Mar 12 08:17:06 EDT 2007 And looking at BIND's entries to syslog, I see the correct timestamps Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from [198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from [198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN Mar 12 07:17:43 granite /kernel: Connection attempt to TCP 199.212.xx.x:995 from 74.97.26.112:53911 flags:0x02 Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from [64.7.xx.90].2163 for "xxx.com" IN Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from [64.7.xx.90].2163 for "xxx.com" IN yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !? if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. Most applications seem this way. On my more recent boxes this didnt happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 boxes, the same odd behavior. /etc/localtime looks the same on all the boxes # md5 /etc/localtime MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da [smtp1]% md5 /etc/localtime MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da [smtp1]% yet different behaviour. Any idea whats up ? ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 12:34:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841D616A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:34:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sunnzy@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C8313C45E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sunnzy@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so1644454ika for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:34:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CDSbh6NMXqD1dmvOYsTt3mGr2+eOStQZ64k4EFeeyEsChbehBVJVsM59Z1nBuv082ESihLOEjU9GfzyjFHhc3KQStosxO4X1reADZ1Htl5uSeYG63rdqwNUJ7dwtcmWgT+Did0/0ulb2iKvyopjz0x0xNvFi2vmyNqRVGiCR4+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=UiU2R748UFjkpX7/JvD4a9whO55kRRFEMX1Coua1QI9yLUglAWmfAQgEcXXfAsURHEaLbtr9apEsVQ583gch8FCtNepx1nS8LosZljzbbYFAJkiv23zhFUECjErZ83av2n5UI8A2ikelDTlmF+CDHmQfF5PdbycwANpI4HzU3iM= Received: by 10.70.73.12 with SMTP id v12mr10376206wxa.1173701399151; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.166.13 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:09:53 +1100 From: Sunnz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: -stable kernel and release 6.2 base system. Do they need to be in sync? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:34:24 -0000 Hi, Just updated /usr/src to -stable (-rRELENG_6), and are now compiling the -stable kernel. Just wondering if I will need to rebuild the base system (world?) as well so they are in sync? Thanks. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 12:38:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78FD16A404 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7F613C46A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 304ED38A36; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:38:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FE538A72; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:38:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81-231-90-251-no41.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.90.251]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD6037E47; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:38:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F54936.3050200@passagen.se> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:36:06 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F46BAD.6030307@passagen.se> <20070312110850.A43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070312110850.A43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:38:19 -0000 Hello Wojciech, ..."If you should need to connect with a Windows box"...(to a FreeBSD machine running X). A part of Xming is a remote desktop client for Windows. You will find more information at -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming. Good luck! Wojciech Puchar skrev: >> They're minimalistic and slick to use. If you should need to connect >> with a windows box there's Xming. Look in the archives! > > what is Xming? > > with grep -i xming /usr/ports/INDEX > nothing found > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 12:43:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BD016A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590D513C483 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HQjsE-00088H-21 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:43:34 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:43:34 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:43:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:43:17 +0100 Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20060911) In-Reply-To: Sender: news Subject: Re: -stable kernel and release 6.2 base system. Do they need to be in sync? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:43:42 -0000 Sunnz wrote: > Hi, > > Just updated /usr/src to -stable (-rRELENG_6), and are now compiling > the -stable kernel. > > Just wondering if I will need to rebuild the base system (world?) as > well so they are in sync? Probably nothing bad will happen if you don't, but if you start getting weird errors this is the first thing you should do. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 12:46:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E1E16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A9E13C45D for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so2111253ugh for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.67.10 with SMTP id p10mr10472418wxa.1173703586369; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i40sm8991424wxd.2007.03.12.05.46.25; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:46:23 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: FreeBSD Question Message-ID: <20070312084623.34143e10@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070312132401.T58112@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F438DC.8050508@fastmail.fm> <45F46A6A.7070400@hdk5.net> <20070312110943.E43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070312062419.64896959@localhost> <20070312132401.T58112@chylonia.3miasto.net> Organization: Seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_nEDcVt=LuKubC=FieAnzSOW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:46:29 -0000 --Sig_nEDcVt=LuKubC=FieAnzSOW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:28:15 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > It is for someone who wants to work in that environment. > > >=20 > exactly, but it would be handy to define what "desktop" is. >=20 > could someone provide me a definition? >=20 > is X server alone a desktop? i think no. > is KDE a desktop? i think yes from what i heard. >=20 > is XFCE a desktop? i think too. >=20 > so is my X server+fvwm2 having no visible icons, windows, frames etc. > (but having a menu under keypress) a desktop or not? >=20 > if yes - then we can define desktop as any software able to run > graphics mode programs on graphics capable machine. like bash or csh > for text mode. >=20 > if no - what part of say KDE make it a desktop? >=20 >=20 >=20 > i'm not trying to start any war, just want to hear a definition of so=20 > commonly used term today. > Wojtek Before you ask so many questions, why don't you invest a little time in RTFM, or perhaps STFW. Check out this URL for starters: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html --=20 Gerard Fortune's current rates: Answers .10 Long answers .25 Answers requiring thought .50 Correct answers $1.00 Dumb looks are still free. --Sig_nEDcVt=LuKubC=FieAnzSOW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF9UufFCqdq4D1ybYRAq+yAKDnNzS6a9UpGJTo6glswQb8Unh87QCeIokt gVeo2fhMLKmsAZTAugiTjpg= =Kzkn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_nEDcVt=LuKubC=FieAnzSOW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 12:50:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090A516A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFBE013C448 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: (qmail 19213 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 12:50:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.133.124) by smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.238) with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2007 12:50:27 -0000 Message-ID: <45F54C91.4030309@computer.org> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:50:25 -0500 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> <20070311233953.C64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F4CEE5.7040005@computer.org> <20070312084742.Q26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070312084742.Q26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Sean Bryant Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:50:28 -0000 On 03/12/2007 03:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> default, window frames and titles removed, >>> >>> all screen available for ACTUAL USE. >>> >> >> All easily attainable in E17. :) > > put a config for E17 for those interested. Unfortunately the config files are now in a binary format. So to post them would be less than enlightening. :P However, it is certainly possible to have all windows borderless and full screen, each on their own desktop. You can navigate desktops with keybd or mouse strokes. You never have to touch a menu as you can launch apps via keybindings (do most other things as well.) You should give it a try. Its very fast and very lightweight. > > my .fvwm2rc, but it uses /etc/wm-menus/Fvwm-pl with program menu. you > may write it yourself or use my "menugen" program. > > set with assumption that it's 1024x768 screen > > > WindowFont -adobe-courier-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-2 > MenuStyle white black white > -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-2 fvwm > OpaqueMoveSize 100 > EdgeScroll 5 5 > EdgeResistance 10000 10000 > DeskTopSize 2x2 > #ImagePath /usr/pkg/share/fvwm2/images/:/usr/pkg/include/X11/pixmaps/: > Style "*" NoTitle, HintOverride, SmartPlacement, NoPPosition, > BorderWidth 0, HandleWidth 0 > Style "Fvwm*" Sticky, WindowListSkip > > Read /etc/wm-menus/Fvwm-pl > > DestroyMenu "StartMenu" > AddToMenu "StartMenu" > + "FreeBSD Apps" Popup FreeBSD > + "Quit fvwm2" Quit + "Restart Fvwm2" Restart > > > #AddToFunc "Move-or-Raise" "M" Move > #+ "M" Raise > #+ "C" Raise > #+ "D" Maximize 100 100 > > Mouse 1 I A Iconify False > Mouse 1 W C Maximize 100 100 > Mouse 2 W C RaiseLower > Mouse 3 WI C Close > Mouse 1 W 4 Move > Mouse 2 WI 4 Iconify > Mouse 3 W 4 Resize > Key Right A 4 Desk 1 > Key Left A 4 Desk -1 > Key F1 A 4 Desk 0 0 > Key F2 A 4 Desk 0 1 > Key F3 A 4 Desk 0 2 > Key F4 A 4 Desk 0 3 > Key F5 A 4 Desk 0 4 > Key F6 A 4 Desk 0 5 > Key F7 A 4 Desk 0 6 > Key F8 A 4 Desk 0 7 > Key F9 A 4 Desk 0 8 > Key F10 A 4 Desk 0 9 > Key F11 A 4 Desk 0 10 > Key F12 A 4 Desk 0 11 > Key F1 A C Desk 0 21 > Key F2 A C Desk 0 22 > Key F3 A C Desk 0 23 > Key F4 A C Desk 0 24 > Key F5 A C Desk 0 25 > Key F6 A C Desk 0 26 > Key F7 A C Desk 0 27 > Key F8 A C Desk 0 28 > Key F9 A C Desk 0 29 > Key F10 A C Desk 0 30 > Key F11 A C Desk 0 31 > Key F12 A C Desk 0 32 > Key M A 4 Menu "StartMenu" > Key Menu A A Menu "StartMenu" > Key X A 4 Exec exec xterm -geometry 102x38+0+0 -ls > Key W A 4 WindowList > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:05:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE3E16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075FB13C457 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1570526wxc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BRp6dGKixeR/esjObYKp3ee6f8b76Y+x6U3BRlNd+aEC90Xt4+kyh4F7O4vK4VHjy0vFQ7zyadakjajA1o3iqs6JPzbxJTBqLbdP8tJ6sqXwIKW5iUpTCt4XxDeKXRwu+yV7WIvYRhOPIDkR3eWqiWRfqsgsLjbEDroakhvY8NE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JyxUnAsx8rc37OaCP2U+6hcZQ8X6/Ia8b2jr+Thsnx0LhNuJb9lY4y5GQZyvMA2WG2TFKQzyNEYi/JpUQlI2NCPPTP19xUP6frGvyBDyccx6AUz2TgqraLQLqIn1WpKWVc8Ld3aAQjReswRceoANWS1kIVhvYPLut1XKdnr7rCQ= Received: by 10.70.59.20 with SMTP id h20mr10538935wxa.1173704705972; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.14.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14989d6e0703120605o4a67b370v3e252865dfb76aaa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:05:05 +0100 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Eric Schuele" In-Reply-To: <45F54C91.4030309@computer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> <20070311233953.C64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F4CEE5.7040005@computer.org> <20070312084742.Q26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F54C91.4030309@computer.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:05:07 -0000 On 12/03/07, Eric Schuele wrote: > On 03/12/2007 03:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> default, window frames and titles removed, > >>> [...] > > However, it is certainly possible to have all windows borderless and > full screen, each on their own desktop. You can navigate desktops with > keybd or mouse strokes. You never have to touch a menu as you can > launch apps via keybindings (do most other things as well.) > > You should give it a try. Its very fast and very lightweight. > Hm, sounds like installing ion3 would be an easier task. ion3 is the WM of my choice, and it does exactly (or nearly) what you describe, and some more. You can additionally set up different layouts of your taste, for example with two columns or even more complex ones. (I've a special layout for gimp where most windows fit into their own frame.) Never touch a window title bar anymore. No resizing, no moving around... Simply brilliant. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:07:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2588D16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAD413C480 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CD7Trj064945; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:07:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CD7TZ5064942; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:07:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:07:29 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Sunnz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070312140656.T64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -stable kernel and release 6.2 base system. Do they need to be in sync? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:07:31 -0000 > > Just updated /usr/src to -stable (-rRELENG_6), and are now compiling > the -stable kernel. > > Just wondering if I will need to rebuild the base system (world?) as > well so they are in sync? > tell me what base system do you have now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:11:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E74016A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sunnzy@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDA113C458 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sunnzy@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so2119313ugh for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:11:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SX8+2juWKjmjSyBHlYC/l+4hnAEZAD42Y96J6jxy2IoWqpJDW/sZky1555TYuocADzkMxzIKKsSWLFRiC0R41QY/ZiKe9mQTkzibarTW7zjjXITk38UU1v8mbk7ezxwN9oKqrvx2U80wP4lSQNsSLnvLvKecKqn4/n9FASR6BH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FP+W7RhcVYEvMx5VucXmpYRrFmNubbVaDrrV1CFvgCqcS4UC/26n4Sk4Pkd5SQba6/DbcvYUzMMacFLf0zPdXLq59Usmz6Hun05z13FIlcGnCMsZ6STR60aYbrNXA9JpAiyx1ydiHSDGoUfJ2nBkmR32UOXsbzlj8WHHcz2qp/E= Received: by 10.70.113.15 with SMTP id l15mr10461203wxc.1173705067486; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.166.13 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:11:07 +1100 From: Sunnz To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20070312140656.T64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070312140656.T64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -stable kernel and release 6.2 base system. Do they need to be in sync? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:11:09 -0000 6.2-Release. I only have updated the kernel so far. Probably will upgrade the base system soon, but at the same time I wanted to know if it should be something need to be done as quickly as possible. Thanks 2007/3/13, Wojciech Puchar : > > > > Just updated /usr/src to -stable (-rRELENG_6), and are now compiling > > the -stable kernel. > > > > Just wondering if I will need to rebuild the base system (world?) as > > well so they are in sync? > > > tell me what base system do you have now. > > -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:11:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A697A16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5B113C46A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFDEEBC62; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:11:47 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Sunnz Message-Id: <20070312091147.7c84526f.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20070312140656.T64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070312140656.T64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -stable kernel and release 6.2 base system. Do they need to be in sync? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:11:50 -0000 In response to Wojciech Puchar : > > > > Just updated /usr/src to -stable (-rRELENG_6), and are now compiling > > the -stable kernel. > > > > Just wondering if I will need to rebuild the base system (world?) as > > well so they are in sync? 99% of the time, the answer is "yes". The real answer is that it depends on which version your going from and to and what sort of changes have been made to kernel interfaces between those versions. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:13:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6A116A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D5D13C4AE for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CDDFng065683; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:13:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CDDF2d065680; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:13:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:13:15 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Roger Olofsson In-Reply-To: <45F54936.3050200@passagen.se> Message-ID: <20070312140756.X64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F46BAD.6030307@passagen.se> <20070312110850.A43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F54936.3050200@passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:13:16 -0000 the one i was looking for very long! as i don't have windoze anywhere close now could you tell me if: 1) this X server can use font server or Xorg format fontsets (.pcf.gz or .pcf) 2) does it work with xdm on server (just for sure, as naturally it should) 3) what keybinding will be blocked because it's used by windows alone? can it be used "fullscreen" with just one or two key combinations reserved to minimizing/iconizing it's display in windows. i tried cygwin's X server (mostly doesn't work) some time ago. i tried others, and only vnc works but it's not X server/client but bitmap differentiation. and vnc X server wasn't able to accept -fp right. at least when i tried. no polish fonts etc... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:16:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CA716A404 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C36813C457 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2CDDnQd048327; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:13:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2CDDnW2048326; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:13:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:13:49 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Susanth K Message-ID: <20070312131349.GB48255@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703102033n10b90f92k7a71edddaa8b32a1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Best OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:16:59 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 10:03:38AM +0530, Susanth K wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Am a beginner to *BSD OS. > > Am interested in setting up intel / AMD based Free and Open Source Server ( > No GUI required ) > > Prime area is Webserver With PHP/MySQL Support and Ruby On Rails. + > PostgreSQL > > Which os Will be the BEST ? > > A) Debian Linux > B) OpenBSD > C) FreeBSD > > Which project has good Support and Active Development ? Well, gee, someone has to say - of course, the best one is FreeBSD. As others have said, any of them can work. FreeBSD is well supported and has all the extra software available that you might need for that but is still lean and not bloated up with junk you don't need. So, it makes a good choice. The fact that it just works is in its favor too. ////jerry > > Please help me to choose > > THANKS IN ADVANCE > > > SUSANTH K > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:17:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CCE16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7F613C4AD for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CDHcXo066170; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:17:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CDHcEo066167; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:17:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:17:38 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Gerard Seibert In-Reply-To: <20070312084623.34143e10@localhost> Message-ID: <20070312141359.L64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F438DC.8050508@fastmail.fm> <45F46A6A.7070400@hdk5.net> <20070312110943.E43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070312062419.64896959@localhost> <20070312132401.T58112@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070312084623.34143e10@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:17:39 -0000 > > Check out this URL for starters: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html A "desktop environment" can mean anything ranging from a simple window manager to a complete suite of desktop applications, such as KDE or GNOME. "can mean" is very far from definition. further reading shows that desktop is "where data and applications can be placed". i always though that data and application are on disk. still no definition of desktop, but looks like desktop=ability to display icon symbols of files and programs (which are files too) and ability to provide "panel" for starting programs and doing some other maintenance. do i say right? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:18:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5349016A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC79D13C43E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CDI38a066206; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:18:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CDI3Uc066203; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:18:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:18:03 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Eric Schuele In-Reply-To: <45F54C91.4030309@computer.org> Message-ID: <20070312141753.S64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> <20070311233953.C64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F4CEE5.7040005@computer.org> <20070312084742.Q26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F54C91.4030309@computer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Sean Bryant Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:18:16 -0000 > > You should give it a try. Its very fast and very lightweight. faster than fvwm2. so i will :) > >> >> my .fvwm2rc, but it uses /etc/wm-menus/Fvwm-pl with program menu. you may >> write it yourself or use my "menugen" program. >> >> set with assumption that it's 1024x768 screen >> >> >> WindowFont -adobe-courier-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-2 >> MenuStyle white black white >> -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-2 fvwm >> OpaqueMoveSize 100 >> EdgeScroll 5 5 >> EdgeResistance 10000 10000 >> DeskTopSize 2x2 >> #ImagePath /usr/pkg/share/fvwm2/images/:/usr/pkg/include/X11/pixmaps/: >> Style "*" NoTitle, HintOverride, SmartPlacement, NoPPosition, BorderWidth >> 0, HandleWidth 0 >> Style "Fvwm*" Sticky, WindowListSkip >> >> Read /etc/wm-menus/Fvwm-pl >> >> DestroyMenu "StartMenu" >> AddToMenu "StartMenu" >> + "FreeBSD Apps" Popup FreeBSD >> + "Quit fvwm2" Quit + "Restart Fvwm2" Restart >> >> >> #AddToFunc "Move-or-Raise" "M" Move >> #+ "M" Raise >> #+ "C" Raise >> #+ "D" Maximize 100 100 >> >> Mouse 1 I A Iconify False >> Mouse 1 W C Maximize 100 100 >> Mouse 2 W C RaiseLower >> Mouse 3 WI C Close >> Mouse 1 W 4 Move >> Mouse 2 WI 4 Iconify >> Mouse 3 W 4 Resize >> Key Right A 4 Desk 1 >> Key Left A 4 Desk -1 >> Key F1 A 4 Desk 0 0 >> Key F2 A 4 Desk 0 1 >> Key F3 A 4 Desk 0 2 >> Key F4 A 4 Desk 0 3 >> Key F5 A 4 Desk 0 4 >> Key F6 A 4 Desk 0 5 >> Key F7 A 4 Desk 0 6 >> Key F8 A 4 Desk 0 7 >> Key F9 A 4 Desk 0 8 >> Key F10 A 4 Desk 0 9 >> Key F11 A 4 Desk 0 10 >> Key F12 A 4 Desk 0 11 >> Key F1 A C Desk 0 21 >> Key F2 A C Desk 0 22 >> Key F3 A C Desk 0 23 >> Key F4 A C Desk 0 24 >> Key F5 A C Desk 0 25 >> Key F6 A C Desk 0 26 >> Key F7 A C Desk 0 27 >> Key F8 A C Desk 0 28 >> Key F9 A C Desk 0 29 >> Key F10 A C Desk 0 30 >> Key F11 A C Desk 0 31 >> Key F12 A C Desk 0 32 >> Key M A 4 Menu "StartMenu" >> Key Menu A A Menu "StartMenu" >> Key X A 4 Exec exec xterm -geometry 102x38+0+0 -ls >> Key W A 4 WindowList >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > Eric > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:22:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2470616A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D9C13C469 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CDMBsF066704; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:22:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CDMBhJ066701; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:22:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:22:11 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Christian Walther In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0703120605o4a67b370v3e252865dfb76aaa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070312141815.H64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> <20070311233953.C64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F4CEE5.7040005@computer.org> <20070312084742.Q26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F54C91.4030309@computer.org> <14989d6e0703120605o4a67b370v3e252865dfb76aaa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Eric Schuele Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:22:14 -0000 > Hm, sounds like installing ion3 would be an easier task. > ion3 is the WM of my choice, and it does exactly (or nearly) what you > describe, and some more. You can additionally set up different layouts i am always open for making my workplace more productive and easier to use. so i will have a try of E17 and ion3, while second looks like more designed to my needs. i tried ratpoison but i was unable to do single-key switching to other desktops and manage well subwindows in some apps like gimp, which always needs multiple windows on one desktop. PS. Because i don't get definition of desktop i used there and in other posts: desktop is one complete full screen workspace. be it text or graphics doesn't matter. PS2. still waiting for precise desktop definition, because i think that this term is regularly misused. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:23:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8FE16A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCBA13C48C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CDNWHl066879; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:23:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CDNWXC066876; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:23:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:23:32 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Sunnz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070312142222.X64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070312140656.T64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -stable kernel and release 6.2 base system. Do they need to be in sync? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:23:33 -0000 > 6.2-Release. I only have updated the kernel so far. my question was what version of base system you have in /bin, /sbin, /lib etc. now so i could answer if you HAVE to compile 6.2, should or don't need to, just put the kernel if your system binaries is 6.0 or later you don't need to update From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:33:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB3916A4E5 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2272F13C508 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1290653ana for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:33:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HZLDWcw1b9fwHksq4OSQmArIX4Pq1rgtlk34lfYiIjJLBpo1KQCSjn7rIOCm5A29K6WylQwIazSqsOZsRj7NuZHkbi8oM6UMAWtXT2u3Hzgi6zC52YkbtjoGyRNraJ1LNV3S1kBDKDNMr2rqyS4BV+NOZ7YLro824WnUbJGZImU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Bfp5WdJhkyfc8jT2pGa/9eQNPRhK580BxySqpRLc0/jtiU9dxBVOds3mXrpKwfqNOpBkyG58ZS+frmbb8wX9QSGWY+QO9dP4UdQ0lt+yAvFObx4Ef0Z1/kXZQ4SCDzeQaGImP2yVwrSLUKpyiMYAM4E0/LVowmFHGQSXIwEECIU= Received: by 10.115.33.1 with SMTP id l1mr1506748waj.1173706413431; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.56.10 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260703120633p5cb5a1r9687c2a83b293d53@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:33:33 +0000 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "User Questions" In-Reply-To: <8a0028260703120556y7785bb71jec8fa20287011c2a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> <20070311233953.C64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F4CEE5.7040005@computer.org> <20070312084742.Q26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F54C91.4030309@computer.org> <8a0028260703120556y7785bb71jec8fa20287011c2a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:33:36 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jeff Rollin Date: 12-Mar-2007 12:56 Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... To: Eric Schuele On 12/03/07, Eric Schuele wrote: > On 03/12/2007 03:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> default, window frames and titles removed, > >>> > >>> all screen available for ACTUAL USE. > >>> > >> > >> All easily attainable in E17. :) > > > > put a config for E17 for those interested. > > Unfortunately the config files are now in a binary format. So to post > them would be less than enlightening. :P > yuck, yuck, yuck Jeff -- Q: What will happen in the Aftermath? A: Impossible to tell, since we're still in the Beforemath. http://latedeveloper.org.uk -- Q: What will happen in the Aftermath? A: Impossible to tell, since we're still in the Beforemath. http://latedeveloper.org.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:36:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D2C16A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B567D13C457 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2CDXR0N048458; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:33:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2CDXQOh048457; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:33:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:33:26 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Susanth K Message-ID: <20070312133326.GA48412@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <6faf55220703110037r1bda3b9y16b451ed220d1c78@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6faf55220703110037r1bda3b9y16b451ed220d1c78@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:36:37 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 02:07:04PM +0530, Susanth K wrote: > Wikipedia says, > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebsd > > FreeBSD 7.0 is on >> Improved scheduler and locking scalability for 32+ CPU > systems (prototyping) > > Does Any One know How Many CPU Does FreeBSD 6.2 Supports ? People on the list just discussed this - not too meaningfully - but... I don't know if there is a coded in limit in either 6.xx or 7.xx. People were more talking about a practical limit, meaning how many could be efficiently handled. For 6.xx they seemed to think that something between 4 and 8 were practical limits. But, this is assuming all CPUs were being used on the same task. Having multiple tasks might increase this. Again, I don't know if somewwhere there is a coded in or configurable limit to how many CPUs it will talk to. Someone who knows the code should answer that. No one has attempted to respond in terms of V 7.xxx as far as I have noticed. ////jerry > > THANKS IN ADVANCE > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:37:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E51A16A40B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from sipserver.k1.com.br (customer-200195195217.idc.onda.com.br [200.195.195.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB7013C484 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from k1.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sipserver.k1.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2C931AD044936 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:37:20 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (k1.com.br) Received: from [201.21.172.89] (authenticated as lenzi) by k1.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 13:37:20 -0000 From: Sergio Lenzi To: freebsd questions In-Reply-To: <20070312084603.C26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> <1173646778.3731.2.camel@localhost> <8a0028260703111458w11f31b71se2a3134d18e624a8@mail.gmail.com> <1173664836.3731.26.camel@localhost> <20070312084603.C26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:37:18 -0300 Message-Id: <1173706638.1260.20.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Old things do work. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:37:22 -0000 As I said some emails ago.... I have a 200 machines all freebsd network that runs 24/7 with a mtbf of 15 years... how I got the numbers? well I have an "issue" every 3 or 4 weeks... (the machine hangs, stops, the power supply explodes....) the machines are aways on... if you count 200 machines and one machine crashes once every 200 days, I will have a 200 day running time on each machine... well I have almost once a month problem... that is 30 times 200 days -> 6000 days for each machine... the machines have now 3 to 5 years old... Now I am replacing the machines for AMD64 with mainboard ECS that proved the more reliable hardware... (asus k8v is also a good choice) (gateway is bad...) 98% of the machines are AMD, some are cyrix It continues to run even with the cpu cooler stopped by dust (yes!!! some machines are in rural areas, gas stations and have no way to offer maitenance) and I have not seen them for years... but sometimes the machines emails me.. (when they finally get dial up connection... and have some issue like: no space, no swap...) it is like sending them to mars... You can see some pictures of the running system on FreeBSD + gnome + windowmaker... at http://www.k1.com.br/images/sistemas these are old pictures, but you can have an idea. the new versions have more enhancements.... It is all coded in FreeBSD with python + gtk + postgres... and runs in windows too... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:38:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A6D16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from sipserver.k1.com.br (customer-200195195217.idc.onda.com.br [200.195.195.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EF413C457 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:38:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from k1.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sipserver.k1.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2CDbpvB049221 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:38:32 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (k1.com.br) Received: from [201.21.172.89] (authenticated as lenzi) by k1.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 13:38:32 -0000 From: Sergio Lenzi To: freebsd questions In-Reply-To: <20070312084603.C26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> <1173646778.3731.2.camel@localhost> <8a0028260703111458w11f31b71se2a3134d18e624a8@mail.gmail.com> <1173664836.3731.26.camel@localhost> <20070312084603.C26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:37:18 -0300 Message-Id: <1173706638.1260.20.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Old things do work. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:38:34 -0000 As I said some emails ago.... I have a 200 machines all freebsd network that runs 24/7 with a mtbf of 15 years... how I got the numbers? well I have an "issue" every 3 or 4 weeks... (the machine hangs, stops, the power supply explodes....) the machines are aways on... if you count 200 machines and one machine crashes once every 200 days, I will have a 200 day running time on each machine... well I have almost once a month problem... that is 30 times 200 days -> 6000 days for each machine... the machines have now 3 to 5 years old... Now I am replacing the machines for AMD64 with mainboard ECS that proved the more reliable hardware... (asus k8v is also a good choice) (gateway is bad...) 98% of the machines are AMD, some are cyrix It continues to run even with the cpu cooler stopped by dust (yes!!! some machines are in rural areas, gas stations and have no way to offer maitenance) and I have not seen them for years... but sometimes the machines emails me.. (when they finally get dial up connection... and have some issue like: no space, no swap...) it is like sending them to mars... You can see some pictures of the running system on FreeBSD + gnome + windowmaker... at http://www.k1.com.br/images/sistemas these are old pictures, but you can have an idea. the new versions have more enhancements.... It is all coded in FreeBSD with python + gtk + postgres... and runs in windows too... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:38:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0412B16A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E76413C4B8 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1884939nfc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:38:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=awaXoEQ1Xa2Lrn/3j/aC46fdPLH7iSSCgv8+m8t6BzjkSGXLa8j/fZMfo367I2Yjq7qFL0d6ya+4yzTUrOKu4NBVhuaV/15iBZmi0RZa8M+LiORpVOh+JRs3NQTyxYm6IZDib+ksqkfFJurYTGJOXgSgxJkBmno0rHju3cAwU20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=AGudG3EAe7A46aau2ckIsBkvoS3SP6HET5o0lmMY6BHgU1jEU9JG7LA/kOuq8INZLz18lG8rm57SBzv1tqB1iiOBb4UIiqqG+b/fEdc4QpLaV6zKqJu/iunGkaw8ux3e064yE9CpWbBNglsKpdgHxYHVug7R12TTvVRyukEy0hw= Received: by 10.82.186.5 with SMTP id j5mr8151688buf.1173706734052; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from persephone.orchid.homeunix.org ( [84.10.174.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e8sm21949259muf.2007.03.12.06.38.53; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45F557E4.1040708@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:38:44 +0100 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20070312140656.T64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070312142222.X64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070312142222.X64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.3.0 OpenPGP: id=06E09309; url=http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7DB305EDB2D6657037E0D5D1" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -stable kernel and release 6.2 base system. Do they need to be in sync? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: karol.kwiat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:38:57 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7DB305EDB2D6657037E0D5D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: >=20 >> 6.2-Release. I only have updated the kernel so far. >=20 > my question was what version of base system you have in /bin, /sbin, > /lib etc. Check the Subject line :) Cheers, Karol --=20 Karol Kwiatkowski OpenPGP 0x06E09309 --------------enig7DB305EDB2D6657037E0D5D1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF9VfsezeoPAwGIYsRCGhYAKCG17pru7JfJhESOS87fa71xHheJgCgiukV 6p6l9GsqrYECckGopWqz5lI= =m6z5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7DB305EDB2D6657037E0D5D1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:39:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0D716A408 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A5813C487 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so895807wrq for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.106.7 with SMTP id i7mr1518673wam.1173706775631; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25sm7821663wra.2007.03.12.06.39.34; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:39:33 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: FreeBSD Question Message-ID: <20070312093933.44447351@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070312141359.L64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F438DC.8050508@fastmail.fm> <45F46A6A.7070400@hdk5.net> <20070312110943.E43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070312062419.64896959@localhost> <20070312132401.T58112@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070312084623.34143e10@localhost> <20070312141359.L64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> Organization: Seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:39:37 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:17:38 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > Check out this URL for starters: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html > > A "desktop environment" can mean anything ranging from a simple > window manager to a complete suite of desktop applications, such as > KDE or GNOME. > > > "can mean" is very far from definition. > > further reading shows that desktop is "where data and applications > can be placed". > > i always though that data and application are on disk. > > still no definition of desktop, but looks like desktop=ability to > display icon symbols of files and programs (which are files too) and > ability to provide "panel" for starting programs and doing some other > maintenance. > > > do i say right? Every time I reply to one of your posts, you reply directly back to me. That is incorrect. You should be directing your reply back to the FreeBSD mail forum. Others might be in a position to assist you if they viewed your post. -- Gerard /) ,-^ ^-. // / \ .-------| |--------------/ __ __ \-------------------.__ |WMWMWMW| |>>>>>>>>>>>>> | />>\ />>\ |>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:> `-------| |--------------| \__/ \__/ |-------------------'^^ \\ \ /|\ / \) \ \_/ / | | |+H+H+H+| \ / ^-----^ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:39:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4745F16A46B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from sipserver.k1.com.br (customer-200195195217.idc.onda.com.br [200.195.195.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C116E13C455 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from k1.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sipserver.k1.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2CDd3e1049253 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:39:44 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (k1.com.br) Received: from [201.21.172.89] (authenticated as lenzi) by k1.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 13:39:44 -0000 From: Sergio Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070312084603.C26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> <200703101338.22384.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <20070311081332.G66000@chylonia.3miasto.net> <14989d6e0703110143i53b3d0bfh65d0e4092993e82e@mail.gmail.com> <20070311110809.O84473@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1173622192.1208.21.camel@localhost> <1173622962.1208.29.camel@localhost> <1173646778.3731.2.camel@localhost> <8a0028260703111458w11f31b71se2a3134d18e624a8@mail.gmail.com> <1173664836.3731.26.camel@localhost> <20070312084603.C26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:39:43 -0300 Message-Id: <1173706783.1260.22.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Old things do work. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:39:46 -0000 As I said some emails ago.... I have a 200 machines all freebsd network that runs 24/7 with a mtbf of 15 years... how I got the numbers? well I have an "issue" every 3 or 4 weeks... (the machine hangs, stops, the power supply explodes....) the machines are aways on... if you count 200 machines and one machine crashes once every 200 days, I will have a 200 day running time on each machine... well I have almost once a month problem... that is 30 times 200 days -> 6000 days for each machine... the machines have now 3 to 5 years old... Now I am replacing the machines for AMD64 with mainboard ECS that proved the more reliable hardware... (asus k8v is also a good choice) (gateway is bad...) 98% of the machines are AMD, some are cyrix It continues to run even with the cpu cooler stopped by dust (yes!!! some machines are in rural areas, gas stations and have no way to offer maitenance) and I have not seen them for years... but sometimes the machines emails me.. (when they finally get dial up connection... and have some issue like: no space, no swap...) it is like sending them to mars... You can see some pictures of the running system on FreeBSD + gnome + windowmaker... at http://www.k1.com.br/images/sistemas these are old pictures, but you can have an idea. the new versions have more enhancements.... It is all coded in FreeBSD with python + gtk + postgres... and runs in windows too... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:40:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D898C16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABDE13C469 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id BA039381DB; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:40:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E05038245; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:40:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81-231-90-251-no41.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.90.251]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5E437E55; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:40:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F557DE.2080704@passagen.se> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:38:38 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F46BAD.6030307@passagen.se> <20070312110850.A43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F54936.3050200@passagen.se> <20070312140756.X64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070312140756.X64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:40:55 -0000 Hello Wojciech, May I suggest that you redirect these questions to the Xming forum? The link to the forum is at -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming. Wojciech Puchar skrev: > the one i was looking for very long! > > as i don't have windoze anywhere close now could you tell me if: > > 1) this X server can use font server or Xorg format fontsets (.pcf.gz or > .pcf) > > 2) does it work with xdm on server (just for sure, as naturally it should) > > 3) what keybinding will be blocked because it's used by windows alone? > can it be used "fullscreen" with just one or two key combinations > reserved to minimizing/iconizing it's display in windows. > > > i tried cygwin's X server (mostly doesn't work) some time ago. i tried > others, and only vnc works but it's not X server/client but bitmap > differentiation. and vnc X server wasn't able to accept -fp right. at > least when i tried. no polish fonts etc... > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:47:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735D816A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idmc_vivr@intgdev.com) Received: from omr1.networksolutionsemail.com (omr1.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A19313C457 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idmc_vivr@intgdev.com) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr1.mgt.netsol.com [10.49.6.64]) by omr1.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l2CDlSeb013659 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:47:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 27736 invoked by uid 78); 12 Mar 2007 13:47:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail7) (205.178.146.50) by ns-omr1.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 13:47:28 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (idmc_vivr@intgdev.com [127.0.0.1]) by webmail7 (EdgeDesk 4.04) with WEBMAIL id 17184; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:47:27 +0000 From: "V.I.Victor" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mintersoft EdgeDesk, Build 4.03.0105 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:47:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Post DST changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:47:29 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, Mike Tancsa wrote: > I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST change this > weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK > ... > yet different behaviour. Any idea whats up ? This is the same thing I asked about yesterday (Daylight Savings Time -- /etc/localtime and what else?) w/o responses >From what I could tell, virtually every process needed a restart. sshd, cron, sendmail, et al were running an hour off. I guess they have a "time ref" based on their original start-up. After I restarted them all, I ended up doing a reboot anyway -- I wasn't sure if everything had been "caught" and I didn't want a Monday morning surprise. Today -- all seems OK. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:50:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D9516A404 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B2513C45E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2CDkwCJ048563; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:46:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2CDkw7n048562; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:46:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:46:58 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Andy Kendall Message-ID: <20070312134658.GB48412@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <000001c76419$a7bfe6c0$4a074c0a@andypc2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c76419$a7bfe6c0$4a074c0a@andypc2> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Manual updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:50:08 -0000 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 08:12:54PM -0000, Andy Kendall wrote: > As a newb to FreeBSD I find that the manual/handbook is not great in detail, > (understatement), and I seem to be relying on this questions list for a lot > of help. > > In my opinion it relies on far too high a plateau of knowledge by it's > readers to be of initial use. > > Am I really that thick or does anyone else feel this way? > > Do the email list respondents find themselves answering the same questions > over and over? > > Is there some way I can help to upgrade the manual entries with the detail I > find necessary to get things working and understand how they work, thereby > hopefully benefiting following newbs? You are welcome to submit improvements to the handbook or man pages. The procedure is well documented on the web page. > > Is there a FreeBSD for dummies? Probably a combination of the FAQ and numerous web pages with howto lists that are out there in web-land make up the FreeBSd for dummies. I don't know of any specific publshed book of that nature, but there are several good ones that might be called FreeBSD for smart people. ////jerry > > > > Thanks > > > > Andy (very frustrated) > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 13:55:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A0816A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668AF13C45E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so1667115ika for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:55:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=seeb7zlAsEp5yjBQ0n6F0PtoZibocJvdjomtu9iyypVrVruW9XX5NCvc044dU/uQkhUXpJ9bmOb3KdhqmZPd6jVN//JzBHRxAOcOyi7P+QoCkqCfFQXsTYFUlT45/1Ge6ZO4fWfsGG4YYbTLT9nitdJiw+qfJz6xvBtMmJLmymM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kRFZkMfRvJUv+ZnAh6qbjjWMxnGe3Be8VARvpKieMJT/7T1oX4xEU9vhxuNjRcCmFGa35Er+oWsZAknFhQ3WysIbPFKkMKOt99b3MrU6CxGjckqM5HIwuS0GAScpfPMSLPeXbCguMkgNaUdXoR0B3KnAZYBCJ85Jdv6BBIXgB6I= Received: by 10.70.100.14 with SMTP id x14mr10588748wxb.1173707745278; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.14.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14989d6e0703120655w3bf8257bvd266938a6e9b866@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:55:45 +0100 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20070312141815.H64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> <20070311233953.C64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F4CEE5.7040005@computer.org> <20070312084742.Q26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F54C91.4030309@computer.org> <14989d6e0703120605o4a67b370v3e252865dfb76aaa@mail.gmail.com> <20070312141815.H64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:55:47 -0000 On 12/03/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Hm, sounds like installing ion3 would be an easier task. > > ion3 is the WM of my choice, and it does exactly (or nearly) what you > > describe, and some more. You can additionally set up different layouts > > i am always open for making my workplace more productive and easier to > use. so i will have a try of E17 and ion3, while second looks like more > designed to my needs. > > i tried ratpoison but i was unable to do single-key switching to other > desktops and manage well subwindows in some apps like gimp, which always > needs multiple windows on one desktop. > ion3 defaults configuration is a very basic one, so it might not look that promising on the first glimpse. But since everything is configurable, you can have your own shortcuts. IMO defining the right short cuts is the hardest part, because chances are high that the WMs shortcuts conflict with an application. I finally split Ctrl_R and Meta_R from their original keys, binding them to Mod3 and Mod4 (both where available on my machine). I can send you my config if you like. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 14:01:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED6616A406 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loganalysis-bounces+freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@lists.shmoo.com) Received: from mail.iocaine.com (mail.iocaine.com [207.115.69.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C9613C459 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loganalysis-bounces+freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@lists.shmoo.com) Received: from threebit.vilos.com (threebit.vilos.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.iocaine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8B3BC4B2 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:38:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: loganalysis-bounces@lists.shmoo.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:38:41 -0700 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: loganalysis@lists.shmoo.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6b1 X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: loganalysis-bounces+freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@lists.shmoo.com Errors-To: loganalysis-bounces+freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@lists.shmoo.com Subject: Your message to LogAnalysis awaits moderator approval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:01:34 -0000 Your mail to 'LogAnalysis' with the subject Fwd: image.jpg Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. 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If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://lists.shmoo.com/mailman/confirm/loganalysis/28c0892d25b6bb852cfafce9432c58e9a5c17354 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 14:19:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BB116A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAA313C43E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs2.xs4all.nl (xs2.xs4all.nl [194.109.21.3]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2CEJBFs011287; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:19:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs2.xs4all.nl (tournoij@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xs2.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2CEJB5Q030135; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:19:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: (from tournoij@localhost) by xs2.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2CEJAml030131; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:19:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tournoij) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:19:10 +0100 From: Martin Tournoij To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: hxc@planet.nl Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:19:13 -0000 hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled means that the nvidia AGP driver isn't working, not that 3d acceleration isn't working. If you want to use the nvidia agp driver, then you should compile a kernel without device agp. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html On Mon 12 Mar 2007 13:03, hxc@planet.nl wrote: > Running glxinfo as user works: > > $ glxinfo | fgrep direct > direct rendering: Yes > > 3d acceleration still isn't working though :-( : > $ sysctl hw.nvidia.agp.status > hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) > hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) > hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) > hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Travel important today; Internal Revenue men arrive tomorrow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 14:29:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0687316A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from titan.ze.tum.de (titan.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E13A13C45B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.96]) by titan.ze.tum.de (8.13.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l2CEJFiR064253; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:19:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2CEJFRH002251; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:19:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: (from estartu@localhost) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l2CEJFdM002250; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:19:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:19:15 +0100 From: Gerhard Schmidt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:29:23 -0000 --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 I have a small problem. On my central server we run an openldap server that= =20 contains the userdata for some systems. An the server uses this ldap=20 server for authentication and nss. The problem is that when the server is= =20 booting slapd takes a very long time to start up. I think it's trying to get an answer from ldap for the user ldap. But user ldap is in /etc/passwd= =20 and in /etc/groups My nsswitch.conf looks like this.=20 group: files ldap hosts: files dns networks: files passwd: files ldap shells: files The system comes up but takes very long to do so (i think it's somekind of timeout)=20 Mar 12 14:58:23 phobos slapd[584]: nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server -= Server is unavailable As I see it, nss asks all sources even if the frist one allready knows the answer. Is there a way to change this.=20 Bye Estartu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | Nick : estartu IRC : Estartu | Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key 86856 Hiltenfingen | EMail: estartu@augusta.de | on request=20 Germany | | =20 --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBRfVhYwzx22nOTJQRAQI9BgP+OdZFMYH8Aa+FfqyKhPSndSCHg1zQfaM9 9a2q0WiyXcJwQpsPDN27g63zw6MVITw+BKfZI0l6cVsMwQXmnFq9M1nvA616VFxn CG0mkbkLw0jSG0esEqpaEM0GSEzHzGfKKDkm63U82DacEGeQhrBUeGFJVJnDJhyS 7xtPQ7wSv4E= =vbWk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 14:40:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0C416A410 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl (psmtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.247.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1358013C4BD for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JES00F36ORQSD@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:40:38 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:40:37 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> To: Martin Tournoij Message-id: <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:40:40 -0000 Martin Tournoij wrote: > hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled means that the nvidia AGP > driver isn't working, not that 3d acceleration isn't working. > > If you want to use the nvidia agp driver, then you should compile a > kernel without device agp. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > > > Is this really true? Who can confirm this? I also wonder why glxgears in FreeBSD gives me 5000 fps, while in Linux gives me 13000. To get 5000 fps in Linux I need to disable 3d support :-\ . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 14:43:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC54016A40D for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6889313C480 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1316508ana for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:43:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=Qm6fD5LBFYMOZRL8QjlJn1eC6xXm9eHMoXjj4jBfcrIQ8KLoWFO9uv2x7oqTBrKIbvoXmTNgCcJ0HmeJT/vY1iMzGK8nA4Tr1+clmcantOcak/pTgJs45B71JYcfP0/mMMI4wiKROFE+CyDPxDb6aDBbI6Vhwy0W6VV7obwAVSw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=njoLq0fzLPLpFSlb2P7umTqENUQg/TEpsm2ANkNHDxyd5fP90tE80JgBL53901NSzMg+m8NoRvIQabZDayzjwgJGHYk0IYNRHxGXHr1Wm4gRE5ndiHluc68zj/zNE3orrBzbdsIN1ZGBIaX1wbH9g8lBTglhMnF25Jx5BoXJSHo= Received: by 10.114.12.9 with SMTP id 9mr1590787wal.1173708887745; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.32.17 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:14:47 -0500 From: "Michael P. Soulier" Sender: msoulier@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 80efcd270e394150 Subject: rebuilding world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:43:30 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html This document says that after the "make installkernel", you reboot in single user mode, and then run "mergemaster -p". This gives me errors about a read-only filesystem. Can't create /var/tmp/temproot. Do the instructions need updating? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... 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A Mercury Interactive Partner Company Email 1 : solanki@issinc-usa.com Email 2 : myvendor@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 14:56:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FDA16A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sunnzy@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BD713C4B7 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sunnzy@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1601739wxc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:56:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KpktfVQV8Viw02N8V2ocVAEa1MjLuyHGBNE0re/fA+SZoi8Enb4aQJ4llodjUylYZCSA9Txj29VQM7dDK4kUgjs7L4lIJglcg7vrS5INvKBdtBxgTw+5zXhZWDRwC8peSmAeYnVn33t5CE0/G89DjSvgfq+Vzf9ZXiZTKv3CFAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qCGxHEc/6YlhBYMeT2BizvWiPLVnzNhZHU8pXTYP1EpxXc9D6+H2qFXHrDwTj2uRpdzS51gK3kKJyBksFPaU8IOqEB9FkvsxDfdyvV0SV01avuvq+SnxxIOyrqAU9gILgKDj6yTsUSm+r8KyBQsZNbjKnUDK+gyS4LbRDtdRgY0= Received: by 10.70.65.8 with SMTP id n8mr10768149wxa.1173711382788; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.166.13 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:56:22 +1100 From: Sunnz To: karol.kwiat@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <45F557E4.1040708@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070312140656.T64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070312142222.X64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F557E4.1040708@gmail.com> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -stable kernel and release 6.2 base system. Do they need to be in sync? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:56:23 -0000 Lol. Yes, all I have done is installing FBSD6.2-Release from a CD, then rebuilt the kernel using 6-stable sources. 2007/3/13, Karol Kwiatkowski : > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >> 6.2-Release. I only have updated the kernel so far. > > > > my question was what version of base system you have in /bin, /sbin, > > /lib etc. > > Check the Subject line :) > > Cheers, > > Karol > > -- > Karol Kwiatkowski > OpenPGP 0x06E09309 > > > -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 14:58:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B74B16A410 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1CB13C4AD for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1322056ana for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:58:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IPwbuw8ST7vcjabpf8cumXxA1K07Au3JblOh7t5cKCJ0s2IKXEnHxYsqcZVHcA19TL8KWveKhIRk9HwL1aSFokzKCtOCzYD2SZeXvV85oD30mmYlkCjgn4OM5zOMRaieQ7Y8rjxNNfznsBIWKwbiG0RiOnrXp9MIdbacpTqZ5qc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=S4aTHCqzkm9aj0p/sQd1hWLIlpGNvgzqS8epAqPgyWfCbMUzR1CHLdVYsmrmXRTbP51Gyu7XVPuftV+bFDJsqiARFJBiLjfUAM08bKskbw9vgNzxtBm7YjmnfGLzcz3RpjeCKCMbhDYscRza36oHRCJDwW98el6UTP74cBRG7PQ= Received: by 10.114.79.1 with SMTP id c1mr1633213wab.1173711503282; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.190.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:58:22 +0200 From: "Dima Sorkin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: diskonkey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:58:24 -0000 Hi. By what device name should I mount the flash memory disk ("disk-on-key"). On linux it was /dev/sdb0, what is it's name on FreeBSD ? Thanks, Dima. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 14:58:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724B916A40F for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14BA13C468 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:58:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CEwXOg077979; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:58:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CEwWTO077976; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:58:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:58:32 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Roger Olofsson In-Reply-To: <45F557DE.2080704@passagen.se> Message-ID: <20070312155807.X77391@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F46BAD.6030307@passagen.se> <20070312110850.A43617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F54936.3050200@passagen.se> <20070312140756.X64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F557DE.2080704@passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:58:34 -0000 sorry for accidentally posting this publicly not just privately and polluting list > Hello Wojciech, > > May I suggest that you redirect these questions to the Xming forum? The link > to the forum is at -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming. > . . . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 15:17:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C8616A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F3E13C45B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so2165772ugh for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:17:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GnTA1dnLcqDPx9kD7ZnVpYTZrlMxq0F7Ry2HojCy9ydqjBkDwMMIwaCkupVrzTH5olDLCL+sl44F/8fgZ6e1mEF6K8g/xAhz/yHGUBCCh2fGy2teX129fDDlY+VHfrcsEF/y9vxOFhYpWVpHFQf3sJbylNIz3SV+i23aABQBZ0w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LKnqL1oaU0Kc8Pl4AurterU8UEUGAB4cT+91IuD+dIxCP+OFpLDI9cEjupckC+PrDCsxksz6b8OckyPrNHEcHlg8sAFsN3KPXYGRtWt3sD23aiv7ndLw2Pap+NznLSb0JyZvOs3p3Kyc3ZrZLpKfTw+odoH8M1NFjdIMHjxNNnM= Received: by 10.70.90.12 with SMTP id n12mr10774734wxb.1173712624341; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.142.13 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <87f7f4170703120817y5bf532cwe067efbf9c831ff5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:17:04 -0400 From: "Jeremy Gransden" To: "Dima Sorkin" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskonkey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:17:10 -0000 On 3/12/07, Dima Sorkin wrote: > > Hi. > By what device name should I mount > the flash memory disk ("disk-on-key"). > > On linux it was /dev/sdb0, what is it's name on FreeBSD ? > > Thanks, > Dima. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > What does dmesg call it after you insert it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 15:20:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A447016A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7600313C45B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900CFEBC62; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:20:28 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Michael P. Soulier" Message-Id: <20070312112028.37baa9d3.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: rebuilding world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:20:31 -0000 In response to "Michael P. Soulier" : > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html > > This document says that after the "make installkernel", you reboot in > single user mode, and then run "mergemaster -p". > > This gives me errors about a read-only filesystem. Can't create > /var/tmp/temproot. fsck; mount -a > Do the instructions need updating? Might not hurt to add that information to the docs. You could file a PR or submit an update to the doc projects. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 15:21:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B0E16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail48.e.nsc.no (mail48.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA61413C469 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [84.202.103.126] (084202103126.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.103.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail48.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l2CFLH0f005710 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:21:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:17:36 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:21:23 -0000 hxc@planet.nl wrote: > Martin Tournoij wrote: >> hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled means that the nvidia AGP >> driver isn't working, not that 3d acceleration isn't working. >> >> If you want to use the nvidia agp driver, then you should compile a >> kernel without device agp. >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html I believe it's enough to put this line into /boot/device.hints: hint.agp.0.disabled="1" > Is this really true? Who can confirm this? I also wonder why glxgears in > FreeBSD gives me 5000 fps, while in Linux gives me 13000. To get 5000 > fps in Linux I need to disable 3d support :-\ . Have you installed the port or package "nvidia-driver" (or one of its siblings)? The documentation that comes with it will probably tell you what you need to know. On my own machine I have NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-9631, and I get this: %sysctl hw.nvidia.agp.status hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 4x hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: disabled -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 15:24:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADC816A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:24:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B183813C4C5 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:24:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 91983 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 15:24:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.192?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.68 with plain) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 15:24:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: DlPQMIEVM1myxyN.3K3mg4YHjXovKnbLGMBhWA0qhT.BgbafEI68_4AovScF9LPNew-- Message-ID: <45F570A4.10903@hier7.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:24:20 -0400 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <200703121231.l2CCVN1d017433@lava.sentex.ca> In-Reply-To: <200703121231.l2CCVN1d017433@lava.sentex.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Post DST changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:24:21 -0000 Hi Mike, It appears that certain daemons don't read tzdata except at startup. I'm not using bind or sendmail in production but I did notice this on a few development servers... Probably related to the way time zone info is read by libc. Because really, how often does it change? :) - Chris Mike Tancsa wrote: > I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST change > this weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK > > # zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 > /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 > EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 > /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 > EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 > /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:59:59 2007 > EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 > /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:00:00 2007 > EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 > > And the command "date" gives the correct time. > > But until I restart some applications, I dont see the right times logged > in syslog ?! > > e.g > # date > Mon Mar 12 08:17:06 EDT 2007 > > And looking at BIND's entries to syslog, I see the correct timestamps > > Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from > [198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN > Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from > [198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN > Mar 12 07:17:43 granite /kernel: Connection attempt to TCP > 199.212.xx.x:995 from 74.97.26.112:53911 flags:0x02 > Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from > [64.7.xx.90].2163 for "xxx.com" IN > Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from > [64.7.xx.90].2163 for "xxx.com" IN > > yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !? > > if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not for > other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. Most > applications seem this way. On my more recent boxes this didnt happen, > but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 boxes, the > same odd behavior. > > /etc/localtime looks the same on all the boxes > > # md5 /etc/localtime > MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da > > [smtp1]% md5 /etc/localtime > MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da > [smtp1]% > > yet different behaviour. Any idea whats up ? > > ---Mike > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 > Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 15:26:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E717816A408 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56CC13C484 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1333063ana for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:26:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=E/Awq+NZ+WRDQvmVR+Hmjjpw+cNsxxjpPPWlPeaCA/UJcXar8WIUiY8vpFBdZQtqsBmyVcb59qntwGOREtIBKg5dQjaoe8TC3uPxIIBA28HRjJyN9SNPCGEyMynkcKZ9JK8sT2Sk4ZZrXgdVKS0TwQsRKHx8WJajkRQR6qBcbCw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AehA1wISkL17n3FTAcy4dq5ruMXn8sLAWskBfqMMlXro9qZkc7nOM9RRfoyk5RWPFFRRzT6eJphFD37UnL503Q7glXk+vH61X4A1nb7hFIUr25wpfzdCBXeI5AFQWnnpCCAPu9zDuANXDSkb4FgnKcbTIuUY7xQA5bi2z4bK4qg= Received: by 10.114.167.2 with SMTP id p2mr1681495wae.1173713214692; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.190.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:26:54 +0200 From: "Dima Sorkin" To: "Jeremy Gransden" In-Reply-To: <87f7f4170703120817y5bf532cwe067efbf9c831ff5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <87f7f4170703120817y5bf532cwe067efbf9c831ff5@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskonkey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:26:56 -0000 Hi. I see there ... umass0: SanDisk Corporation Cruzer Mini, rev 2.00/1.25, addr 3 ... which means that I should > mount -o rw -t vfat /dev/umass0 MNT_POINT as root ? Thanks and regards, Dima. On 3/12/07, Jeremy Gransden wrote: > > > > On 3/12/07, Dima Sorkin wrote: > > > > Hi. > > By what device name should I mount > > the flash memory disk ("disk-on-key"). > > > > On linux it was /dev/sdb0, what is it's name on FreeBSD ? > > > > Thanks, > > Dima. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > > > > > What does dmesg call it after you insert it? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 15:31:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D79416A408 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from breath@unix.net) Received: from mtsnet.ru (mts3.mtsnet.ru [213.87.0.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2B813C44B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from breath@unix.net) Received: from [84.17.224.22] (HELO breathpoint.home) by mtsnet.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.1) with SMTP id 304491 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:31:16 +0300 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:23:59 +0300 From: Yuri Grebenkin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070312182359.38bea755.breath@unix.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: diskonkey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:31:21 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:58:22 +0200 "Dima Sorkin" wrote: > Hi. > By what device name should I mount > the flash memory disk ("disk-on-key"). > > On linux it was /dev/sdb0, what is it's name on FreeBSD ? > > Thanks, > Dima. Try this (just a hint): % mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /path/where From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 15:37:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABB816A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D3113C483 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CFbnP5082820; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:37:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2CFbmH4082817; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:37:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:37:48 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Dima Sorkin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070312163658.P82696@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <87f7f4170703120817y5bf532cwe067efbf9c831ff5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jeremy Gransden , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskonkey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:37:56 -0000 > ... > umass0: SanDisk Corporation Cruzer Mini, rev 2.00/1.25, addr 3 > ... > > which means that I should >> mount -o rw -t vfat /dev/umass0 MNT_POINT > as root > ? > see farther so da0 (or 1,2,3) will show in logs if it doesn't you may have not compiled da and scbus then /dev/da0 will be the device and /dev/da0s1 - dos partition > Thanks and regards, > Dima. > > On 3/12/07, Jeremy Gransden wrote: >> >> >> >> On 3/12/07, Dima Sorkin wrote: >> > >> > Hi. >> > By what device name should I mount >> > the flash memory disk ("disk-on-key"). >> > >> > On linux it was /dev/sdb0, what is it's name on FreeBSD ? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Dima. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> > >> >> >> >> What does dmesg call it after you insert it? >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 15:41:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E234916A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: from web62314.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62314.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AADFD13C465 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulette_mcgee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 89175 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Mar 2007 15:41:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=P+iPdioehI06Gj4jHCgTJqzDFxgBsGNAapUSdTT3nWMLGNBjWkjtYIcrq5F5k21xuc3zaqjln17L7F3NVCeMXjiijL0Mmf06yze23MVs17I0Nur6UlURx3F/xDG1FtoYSveNzCj2hx0wbi9bE0KF7iyzAUNEzDwCmcqvV6MwsRM=; X-YMail-OSG: nPVGTWoVM1ljnkHlTSigKElEw2pyC.Oi61o5xAvEdr9xjhC9sPp57BFvcRtjCdNtEQ-- Received: from [68.164.15.239] by web62314.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:41:39 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:41:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Paulette McGee To: "illoai@gmail.com" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <998894.76617.qm@web62314.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cc: Paulette McGee , Wojciech Puchar , Andy Kendall Subject: Re: Manual updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:41:41 -0000 --- "illoai@gmail.com" wrote: > On 11/03/07, Paulette McGee > wrote: > > > > --- Wojciech Puchar > wrote: > > > > > > As a newb to FreeBSD I find that the > > > manual/handbook is not great in detail, > > > > (understatement), and I seem to be relying on > this > > > questions list for a lot > > > > of help. > > > > > > what's missing? i think it's quite detailed > . . . > > Yes, the handbook is quite detailed; however there > are > > somethings missing. Not to start a flame war; > these > > are just a few thoughts and they are in my humble > > opinion. > . . . > > 1) Update ports > > 1a) CVS > > 2b) portsnap > > 2) Build INDEX (depends on the tool; identify > tools). > > Also what are the pro's and con's of obtaining the > > index from the methods listed below. > > 2a) "make index" > > 2b) "make fetchindex" > > 2c) portsdb -Uu > > 3) Use Tool 'X' to update / upgrade your ports > . . . > > Now, one other issue; off the top of my head: > > pkgtools.conf. How does pkgtools.conf interact > with > > the makefile in their respective ports directory? > > 1) Does it completely override it? > > 2) Does if it take a diff between the two and > build > > the app? > > portsdb is part of portupgrade, not at all part of > the base system. Similarly, pkgtools.conf, being > located in /usr/local/etc/ is used by portupgrade > (and another ports management tool?) which is > not at all part of the base system. portupgrade > has quite a bit of documentation on its use, but > I am not certain how this third party ruby script > dovetails with a discussion of the (de)merits of > FreeBSD's handbook. Obviously with enough > time and effort a complete set of documents for > 6.2 could be compiled and vetted for accuracy, > although just like the current handbook and > other documentation, it would fall out of date > exactly as fast as new code would be added. > Keeping up to date with third party applications > (ruby scripts!) would exacerbate rather than > ameliorate this effect. > > -- > -- Hello illoai, With respect to you statement: My reply was how the handbook could be improved for new users. Nothing in the world is perfect; and if the FreeBSD experience can be improved for users, I am all for it. I did a little writing and was hoping for feed back so eventually I could submit that information back to the doc project. "portupgrade has quite a bit of documentation on its use, but I am not certain how this third party ruby script dovetails with a discussion of the (de)merits" The topic at hand was improving documentation and I put in my .02 cents worth when a question was posed. Perhaps this discussion should take place on another mailing list. But this discussion may add some interest of the skilled users on this list to potentially contribute. So, there may be a positive to this dovetail. :-) As it stands the FreeBSD Handbook is a great piece of documentation. In my humble opinion it can be better; and I am more than willing to spend the time. "although just like the current handbook and other documentation, it would fall out of date exactly as fast as new code would be added." Portupgrade has been part of the upgrade (system admin) process for quite some time and the process of upgrading ports has been somewhat consistent over time. All I would like to see is the process identified for updating software. The topic of installing software and updating software is important; and should be expounded upon. Just my humble opinion. As I stated: This topic should be carried out on another list. Regards, Paulette McGee ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 15:53:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A105716A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCCB13C45D for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1343466ana for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:53:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qwt6jYHrVfqn5ptsy6/nt4IMJ/ztxnrlGvXhTHCDApCVEYwLa7SxH/lrm9PwQYfPkjLQLQZOOcUO7Ki8HKhtrtM48vNkgAStunb/yJVIJh4cS5UmXLP4dl4H4y+PmLVwLyz42Pe7qcWJYNj7RIqmxUbQOxOb3OVT1X2e0FTiRQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OHEFUWFw5wc3xyhKz9PMbpReT/9TMekoEs1zDmDcKgZ0z1Ees+59CjWcVSTOVTcqHhh5siwyfScY777bFopt3YvhBBRuvQmfAZm9ZHV4lu88sDktWm9I+D6ELWcAodoWdEwovn1q+6i0CczWGvZNKsoPDwTvyDnwCaRmOauNqb0= Received: by 10.114.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr1748771wae.1173714805004; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.190.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:53:24 +0200 From: "Dima Sorkin" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20070312163658.P82696@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <87f7f4170703120817y5bf532cwe067efbf9c831ff5@mail.gmail.com> <20070312163658.P82696@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: Jeremy Gransden , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskonkey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:53:27 -0000 Hi. Yes ! I see da0. Thanks for everybody meanwhile. (I should relogin as root, put myself in 'wheel' group, then I will check whether it works) Dima. On 3/12/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > ... > > umass0: SanDisk Corporation Cruzer Mini, rev 2.00/1.25, addr 3 > > ... > > > > which means that I should > >> mount -o rw -t vfat /dev/umass0 MNT_POINT > > as root > > ? > > > > see farther so da0 (or 1,2,3) will show in logs > > if it doesn't you may have not compiled da and scbus > > then /dev/da0 will be the device and /dev/da0s1 - dos partition > > > Thanks and regards, > > Dima. > > > > On 3/12/07, Jeremy Gransden wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 3/12/07, Dima Sorkin wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi. > >> > By what device name should I mount > >> > the flash memory disk ("disk-on-key"). > >> > > >> > On linux it was /dev/sdb0, what is it's name on FreeBSD ? > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Dima. > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> > > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> What does dmesg call it after you insert it? > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 15:55:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C49516A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sunnzy@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6006413C45D for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sunnzy@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1619265wxc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:55:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=B/UvkNq/QDKKIhoVgRz4naNnzmMsZA3Ysr/PAeelbOtmET/SPH36xw/ODSX7195PhElI66DnGWQulDtChQV6DwIs2W0peMDJ178g9qn3FFyhoRZ2mQzFjXCKUfasXWTgzVvSOEiWaTMl4SsWJgtFODKwYaoldwmR4fQQyLdq5yo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=pNxDItZSqR4g0Bl3s9ZcbWqgwgcFqsMO08dGTyM3tHdRoytLl7OMl4H9fWX47Emnw8xUxB0Kjuu1M0N+7ov1dsm0u54QQsDT6vOVQyuMTCrbl9sIswWfc9QnosWsBSsmXT47g6dsEBpDNuJ4pad//dO+vl77AFqxqi/lj5oob2w= Received: by 10.90.63.16 with SMTP id l16mr4621535aga.1173714937312; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.166.13 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:55:36 +1100 From: Sunnz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Anyone use KSH? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:55:38 -0000 Just installed Release 6.2 on my workstation, and the first thing I did was installing (pd)ksh since I have been using it before... I found that a few things doesn't work, tab-completion, up/down arrow keys, ctrl-A ctrl-E to go to the beginning/end of a line. Does anyone uses ksh here who knows if this is normal behaviour? -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 16:11:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D67316A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcelo.maraboli@usm.cl) Received: from sith.usm.cl (sith.usm.cl [200.1.21.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B75913C455 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:11:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcelo.maraboli@usm.cl) Received: from jedi.usm.cl (jedi.usm.cl [200.1.21.110]) by sith.usm.cl (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l2CG12Ih030643; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:01:02 -0400 (CLT) (envelope-from marcelo.maraboli@usm.cl) Received: from [200.1.21.50] (pucon.dcsc.utfsm.cl [200.1.21.50]) (user=marcelo.maraboli mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jedi.usm.cl (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CG0xU9069241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:01:01 -0400 (CLT) (envelope-from marcelo.maraboli@usm.cl) Message-ID: <45F57936.3030601@usm.cl> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:00:54 -0400 From: Marcelo Maraboli User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John L References: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> In-Reply-To: <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.25.321 (sith.usm.cl. [200.1.21.112]); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:01:08 -0400 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-4.50 required=3.00 X-Spam-Level: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.2/2823/Mon Mar 12 05:55:20 2007 on sith.usm.cl X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:11:41 -0000 John L wrote: >> I phrased it wrong. You are not responsible for the content, but you >> are responsible for the mail domain and that includes verifying that >> mail is validly from your domain you are responsible for. > > Oh, OK. So if someone sends pump and dump with a chad@shire.net return > address, and I do a callback and your MTA says "yup! that's a 100% valid > address!" then I turn you in to the SEC, rignt? You have now confirmed > that the mail is from you, after all. Or if you haven't, what purpose > did the callback serve? > > There is some reasonable validation technology coming along, most > notably DKIM which which I presume you are familiar. But callbacks are > not it. > I agree..... callbacks are not enough, you can reach a false conclusion, that´s why I use SPF along with callbacks... on the same message, my MX concludes: "you are sending email "from chad@shire.net", but shire.net says YOUR IP address is not allowed to send email on behalf of that domain, therefore YOU ARE FAKE/FORGED" ..---> reject regards, -- MSc. Marcelo Maraboli Rosselott Jefe Area de Redes y Comunicaciones (Network & UNIX Systems Engineer) Ingeniero Civil Electronico, CISSP (Electronic Engineer, CISSP, MSc.) Direccion Central de Servicios Computacionales (DCSC) Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria phone: +56 32 2654071 Chile. http://www.usm.cl http://elqui.dcsc.utfsm.cl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 16:23:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAABF16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B94F13C45D for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1948117nfc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:23:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=DGPT3+6Z2F3DaVVM5G+rJC4Netiuita7WfqoXsLPTyi60pjzxAK7RhVkPbY3DoWobqjeV5Z6jQSj1njNPPWv6CfGRIpiVRd8M7f1+QAK1tU1o+qeRldvI42HohPhPofnQr+LoIiiHIoFcPQfOa7omPb43QmVtVIuMxa60f87t6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=NxyaycCiWqZiVWFIoVHdNw+dVTqcsIBjUeLvUDkn734nK3yR3SC8HQhOexA6CEBXuo8BKXuGrRPdQ4e6KrQT37J8tlm6CIMnuWD2aca6M3vHqevIcETgB91ajnHX59QBayhDqzg4inm8/zs7DnETNF/kuRLeUac+R/kTcAbQPjY= Received: by 10.82.178.11 with SMTP id a11mr8529155buf.1173716614919; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90703120923r33bd0b94h497832f964e1350f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:23:34 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "=?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Nejc_=8Akoberne?=" In-Reply-To: <45F1BF10.7040109@skoberne.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <45F1BF10.7040109@skoberne.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: efe8ec5a99d041d9 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD on IDE Flash disk drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:23:38 -0000 I noticed a project called "NanoBSD" in the freebsd handbook that is intended for exactly this purpose. I compiled & installed it just fine on 6.1 release, but my hardware wouldn't boot a CF card, so I was unable to verify that it worked. Sounds like NanoBSD is to FreeBSD what m0n0wall is to Linux? Steve On 3/9/07, Nejc =8Akoberne wrote: > Hello, > > I plan to install a FreeBSD 6.2 router/gateway/DHCP server on a EPIA > box with 1GB Transcend IDE Flash drive. Since Transcend says that > this device is capable of "10,000 insertion/removal cycles" I assume > that I must minimize the number of writes to the drive. It is okay > with me if I have to configure syslog to log to another machine. > > Any suggestions/instructions how to achieve this? Any experienced > users regarding this matter? > > Thanks for ideas and help. > Nejc > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 16:24:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6FC16A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD52713C455 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1948422nfc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:24:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Ls7JoecbBu+BFy2U2W5iMHBqtyXNyOUQYaZ6PhxcL1Xuoz+EqOrGqi4TvUe/ZuZGrBSObPLsNvO5S7wmELvqeDYyBuXjqfQyYq2hEKQ0/1YJfuGbYFjyeQWeudh8AGiQICYp/EypCqb4X27HZqmVBA07cMIgYhil2fA2h88rgFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Bib9IK/pHyYgNH/NlPyBq4eoYtjkjqN1xCU48b0YoQSKuKNjyKayQ08RGpFLN9H87s5EvCwYwbeNV4Z+4RdUWNTD1zFz6eeHi/KGYuC7/w1yBteQHLKFGMZKkRjbBmWNrzbQMEX33k7Q+Y+gc4HB+wGWxuytDryn8G+DPCBRYew= Received: by 10.82.188.15 with SMTP id l15mr8554805buf.1173716664676; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90703120924w118c5132g4b82a2861ea88653@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:24:24 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "=?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Nejc_=8Akoberne?=" In-Reply-To: <45F1BF10.7040109@skoberne.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <45F1BF10.7040109@skoberne.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f05c5387b82dc931 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD on IDE Flash disk drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:24:27 -0000 My bad. Says right on the m0n0wall homepage that it is based on FreeBSD, not Linux....yea for us! Steve On 3/9/07, Nejc =8Akoberne wrote: > Hello, > > I plan to install a FreeBSD 6.2 router/gateway/DHCP server on a EPIA > box with 1GB Transcend IDE Flash drive. Since Transcend says that > this device is capable of "10,000 insertion/removal cycles" I assume > that I must minimize the number of writes to the drive. It is okay > with me if I have to configure syslog to log to another machine. > > Any suggestions/instructions how to achieve this? Any experienced > users regarding this matter? > > Thanks for ideas and help. > Nejc > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 16:38:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD2B16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01FC13C489 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F38B68604395; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DuFos1VeO63H; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 33EBD68604392; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:39:03 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070312163903.GB13871@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Subject: Re: Anyone use KSH? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:38:09 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007, Sunnz wrote: >Just installed Release 6.2 on my workstation, and the first thing I >did was installing (pd)ksh since I have been using it before... > >I found that a few things doesn't work, tab-completion, up/down arrow >keys, ctrl-A ctrl-E to go to the beginning/end of a line. My guess is that you're in vi mode by default (set -o vi), and would prefer it to be in emacs mode. Try ``set -o emacs'' to see if it does what you want. Personally I much prefer the vi mode as I've never been able to get my fingers to learn emacs. After using ksh for almost twenty years, I finally switched to bash from ksh several months ago when I found that tab completion works in vi mode on bash, and a simple alias "r='fc -s'" allows me to use the ksh style ``r'' commands to repeat previous commands. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that ``freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;'' and they will define and define freedom out of existence. - Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 16:43:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5253D16A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chobbs@siloamsprings.com) Received: from [24.248.215.40] (cityhall.siloamsprings.com [24.248.215.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1723213C448 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chobbs@siloamsprings.com) Received: from athome.siloamsprings.com by [24.248.215.40] via smtpd (for mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:42:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athome.siloamsprings.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D3F694066 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:10:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.5.1.254] (unknown [10.5.1.254]) by athome.siloamsprings.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64DD694060 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:10:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from no.name.available by [10.5.1.254] via smtpd (for athome.siloamsprings.com [10.5.1.3]) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:09:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:10:19 -0500 From: "Christopher M. Hobbs" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070312161019.GB771@siloamsprings.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NMuMz9nt05w80d4+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-PGP-Key: http://altbit.org/pseudorandom/keys/officekey.gpg X-PGP-Key-FingerPrint: 75E4 B0C1 EFCB 13E1 ED5B A8B8 E43E AFFD A376 48AF Subject: problem building php5-pcre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:43:11 -0000 --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone else have this particular error? I can't seem to get php5-pcre to build. /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/php_pcre.o /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:102: warning: parameter has incomplete type /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c: In function `PHP_GINIT_FUNCTION': /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:101: error: parameter name omitted /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:103: error: invalid type argument of `->' /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:104: error: invalid type argument of `->' /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:105: error: invalid type argument of `->' /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:106: error: invalid type argument of `->' /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c: At top level: /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:110: warning: parameter has incomplete type /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c: In function `PHP_GSHUTDOWN_FUNCTION': /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:109: error: parameter name omitted /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:111: error: invalid type argument of `->' /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c: At top level: /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1776: error: syntax error before "pcre" /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1777: error: syntax error before "pcre" /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1778: error: syntax error before "pcre" *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre. --=20 Christopher M. Hobbs IS Technician, City of Siloam Springs chobbs@siloamsprings.com, (479).524.5136 --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF9Xtr5D6v/aN2SK8RAnGoAKDNDtn5aBIGVcySrAv0ojvYW5p0rwCdHVFG A0igxfcbAWT9HqaAhMYyL80= =qn3W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 16:55:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9D716A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hooobs@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A213413C46C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hooobs@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1960640nfc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:55:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=KhxM1L1PAayrmb34FMweOk7DtSn8qUv/XPeygNsBVAzHZvNxiQyriHMg/b0j2yDSsFkH1PVw+e1sAaf60FYRMgv5kWLv8vN+I/IPibHvC8Qt6B/cvaLMFVGC/aMqC5a7sZ4UVpG7oowWjY3slA2l3ca7XW49QA45/L//69GWxE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=mp9DkuWk2m3emJDwAKSStKLiIj/a/EQBrYDBwqXRd2d9U/hCeBNhtfRSvOrWoqxJSPc+v24+9gjT6hWSCsW+VrU5X+fnb5mdYLp2oQNDSzgHn0b1mTkgNdifGOQlBlOHqI6aK/b0JlGYs07rVl9rglMAvB/hsoEGifCn1GxQQic= Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr672462hue.1173716559319; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.51.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8153bba90703120922o207622d9o3ffaee18effb03ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:22:39 -0500 From: "Christopher Hobbs" Sender: hooobs@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0b616842be479047 Subject: problem building php5-pcre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:55:36 -0000 Anyone else have this particular error? I can't seem to get php5-pcre to build. /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/php_pcre.o /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:102: warning: parameter has incomplete type /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c: In function `PHP_GINIT_FUNCTION': /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:101: error: parameter name omitted /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:103: error: invalid type argument of `->' /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:104: error: invalid type argument of `->' /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:105: error: invalid type argument of `->' /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:106: error: invalid type argument of `->' /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c: At top level: /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:110: warning: parameter has incomplete type /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c: In function `PHP_GSHUTDOWN_FUNCTION': /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:109: error: parameter name omitted /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:111: error: invalid type argument of `->' /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c: At top level: /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1776: error: syntax error before "pcre" /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1777: error: syntax error before "pcre" /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre/php_pcre.c:1778: error: syntax error before "pcre" *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.2.1/ext/pcre. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre. -- C. M. Hobbs, KD5RYO http://altbit.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 17:02:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855C716A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:02:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6102E13C44C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:02:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B2F1F779A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:02:05 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: jmaiFYopdHuFLKnnZkQV9WFJvc5J3B05WU49HfqX8zMe 1173718925 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F6C70D5 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <719F520B-B7F4-4A01-B294-534393953AED@goldmark.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: questions@freebsd.org From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:02:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Subject: How to reinstall gcc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:02:05 -0000 I seem to have broken gcc on my 6.2-RELEASE p2 system. I apparently did this by adding CPUTYPE?=c3 to /etc/make.conf and then a make buildworld and make install world. Everything seems to be working fine (though I haven't tested throughly), but now gcc is definitely broken. Most compile attempts end with something like internal compiler error: Illegal instruction: 4 I have been able to successfully compile hello.c, but a buildworld fails as described above as does the things I've tested in ports (pcre, curl, ispell). My question is without a functioning gcc, how do a install a functioning gcc? -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 17:05:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91D816A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C59813C44B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA0F51947 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:05:30 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070312170530.65898c23@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:05:35 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:27:52 -0800 jekillen wrote: > If you will allow me to break in on this exchange; > Does this advise apply if you have static ip service The important thing is really your reverse DNS, if you have control of it and looks like a real server name, e.g. mail.example.com, you can stay off the dynamic lists. It doesn't help to have a static address if your reverse dns looks like 12-43-545-example.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 17:14:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C342F16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chriskot@quietwind.net) Received: from creto.quietwind.net (creto.quietwind.net [71.39.149.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D6313C45E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chriskot@quietwind.net) Received: from creto.quietwind.net (localhost.quietwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by creto.quietwind.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2CGfHiO028328 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:41:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chriskot@quietwind.net) Received: (from chrisk@localhost) by creto.quietwind.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l2CGfDAJ028327 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:41:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chriskot@quietwind.net) X-Authentication-Warning: creto.quietwind.net: chrisk set sender to chriskot@quietwind.net using -f From: Chris Kottaridis To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070310224946.K10353@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:41:12 -0700 Message-Id: <1173717672.792.62.camel@creto.quietwind.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: Subject: Re: root login with telnetd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: chriskot@quietwind.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:14:00 -0000 On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 22:52 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > can it be set to make possible to login root to machine through telnet and > without telneting to some user and then su - > ? > > with sshd and rshd it can be set, with telnetd - no success. > My reasons for this being a bad idea isn't so much from concerns about attack from outside, but it's more an issue of accountability. When I ran a computing facility at a University we had some paid student assistance, as well as faculty, that were reasonably entitled to have the root password on various machines. Inevitably, the root password would find it's way to some other student or some faculty member's assistant and they'd get on the machine and do something as root. In all cases they were trying to help, but in getting the features they were interested in getting to work, they unknowingly mucked something else up. We did not allow any "frontline" root logins so they had to sign in on one of the user's accounts and then su to root. Of course su logs this in the log files. So, we would take a look at the log files to see which users had su'd about the time the problem started occurring to ask them what they had done, or were trying to do. A couple of times that particular user was out of town and these machines weren't on the internet nor did they have a modem, so it was clear that user had given his account and root passwords to another person to work on their project when they were gone. By the way, faculty were the worst offenders at this. Some of them consider SysAdmin below them and would hand those tasks off to some student, but that's a whole different discussion. Anyway, there was never anything nefarious going on, but having root accesses logged in the log files was very helpful in allowing us to build a history of what might have been done on the machine, and who did it, to cause the failure. If you allow "front line" logins via telnet and friends you won't have that accountability, because you'll have no idea who it may have been that logged in so you can't ask them what they might have been up to. By the way once everyone involved realized that we weren't going to take them out back and have some thugs beat them up for giving out the root passwords everyone was very helpful and we got things fixed much faster then we would have if we had tried to blindly figure things out on our own. By the way, restricting su to wheel group is something I've always liked about the BSD's. Again, it helps with the accountability factor on a machine. I was flabbergasted when I first logged into a Linux box and created a user and then su'ed to root from that user without ever adding him to a "wheel" type group, I think Linux has a "root" group. This doesn't really apply to this topic that much, but it irks me so much, that Linux allows just any old user to su, I just wanted to vent a little bit about it. Maybe they do it in a different way that I just haven't needed to figure out yet. So, I would argue that you really don't want to allow "frontline" logins not so much for security reasons as for accountability reasons. Thanks Chris Kottaridis (chriskot@quietwind.net) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 17:17:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1693E16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F218F13C457 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay7.apple.com (a17-128-113-37.apple.com [17.128.113.37]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2CHHIv8013234; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay7.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay7.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 59FEA304FC; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:17:18 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807125-a347dbb0000007df-dd-45f58b1eafc1 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay7.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 3807030517; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:17:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20070308220342.GR86959@dan.emsphone.com> References: <45F081A0.4090000@enabled.com> <8A6FA495-EB92-4059-A972-0599669225D1@mac.com> <20070308220342.GR86959@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7D5C55E5-C525-471C-B12A-C47970EB8AF2@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:17:17 -0700 To: Dan Nelson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Noah , User Questions Subject: Re: Stopping named: rndc failed, trying killall: . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:17:39 -0000 On Mar 8, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: [ ... ] >> It would be nifty to make ndc/rndc smart enough to understand how to >> find the pidfile under the chroot location. > > rndc doesn't need to know where the pid is; it connects directly to > named over the control port (953) to do its magic. Try running "rndc > status" while named is running; if you get an error message > complaining > about midding rndc.conf or rndc.key files, you may need to configure > that before rndc will work. "rndc status" works fine for me, but I recall that trying to use it to kill/restart named always fails when named is configured with chroot().... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 17:21:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC9016A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:21:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7EB13C43E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2007 13:21:32 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id IJM18524; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-26-179.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.26.179]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2007 12:21:28 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17909.35863.845133.325899@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:21:27 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8153bba90703120922o207622d9o3ffaee18effb03ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <8153bba90703120922o207622d9o3ffaee18effb03ba@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: problem building php5-pcre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:21:33 -0000 Christopher Hobbs writes: > Anyone else have this particular error? I can't seem to get > php5-pcre to build. Built and installed just fine for me five minutes ago on FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Mon Jan 22 16:56:10 EST 2007 i386 Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 17:52:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F6716A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0F3E13C45E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 91945 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Mar 2007 17:52:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=flYMA83+AdVaLl9KF6YOlj2lioPgn5Dk77AYo6nlt3/WFHk8rX6EfZ0m99PW0ZeorCsYJMRz7WP0ytS6eK9B/UW7kZ4haAabXiunmdAqOm4IkPGE/iHqg2Xmkc2f48VZMQLQUaEjY/SST+97cL3NELyh9xu4XtoJkZ8Y8OkD98o=; X-YMail-OSG: FgIVDskVM1kAoqJmrS.wuseHEIi5V42rat8hk2m_VpivDUSTAF7DaK0FipTFmUYcqTwnLuQ1oeQCtnJDCYZWO0XdDEGa1jZgoOSRNVguoS5DQaqAcyRd.47iUQ_GmMpI Received: from [69.19.14.43] by web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:52:28 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:52:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <825484.90051.qm@web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How Do I Find Find? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:52:30 -0000 I built a home server to prepare to build a new production server. Well, the latter is built out, but when I went back to the former, it said there was a problem with my last shutdown (which I don't remember) and went into single user mode. I went to run a "find" and it complained it couldn't find the "find" command! I thought, what the heck, no great loss, I'll just rebuild this machine. But after re-installing FBSD, it *still* can't find the "find" command! Now I'm worried! It wasn't in /usr/bin/ What happened to this installation?? TIA, Drew3 --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 17:52:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA2016A409 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FAB513C483 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 62132 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 17:26:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@71.147.32.49 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 17:26:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: _C0n7.YVM1mYiWwQioLLWdDWg_aRcF7wMre_O.r8vyOVYY_LGNY6wWlHI3fll4LTt.QNxnzbGAs2xgcZBXO8ATrLlAK8t6u7Ectn5gB7fbswSZ8fv5cgNjfY0RfxfOh1uQpg8pAKz9fxE6I- Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A545F1146C; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:26:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dPYj+WRaZf+8; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:26:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF45211469; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:26:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <45F58D31.7090902@mikestammer.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:26:09 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (Windows/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <8153bba90703120922o207622d9o3ffaee18effb03ba@mail.gmail.com> <17909.35863.845133.325899@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <17909.35863.845133.325899@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem building php5-pcre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:52:59 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Christopher Hobbs writes: > >> Anyone else have this particular error? I can't seem to get >> php5-pcre to build. > > Built and installed just fine for me five minutes ago on > > FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Mon Jan 22 16:56:10 EST 2007 i386 > > > Robert Huff does anyone know why, even tho pcre7 is installed, that when i install php5-pcre port my phpinfo shows this: PCRE (Perl Compatible Regular Expressions) Support enabled PCRE Library Version 3.9 02-Jan-2002 this is on BSD 6.1 with apache 2. why the heck would it be doing this? i did notice that my ldconfig -r was empty (no idea how), but i readded all the paths via ldconfig -m Ive reinstalled apache, php, extensions, pcre, etc over and over (trying different things) to no avail. Any ideas? Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 17:57:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3AD16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197BB13C46A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 108425252-1860479 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:57:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Mailing Lists From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:57:31 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: firewall/proxy question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:57:39 -0000 I am trying to find a way to stop some people on our network from accessing certain websites. We have been using Squid with SquidGuard on an older FreeBSD system. The Squid that was installed from ports doesn't seem to see https: connections. From what I can find, this appears to be normal behavior since https: connections are encrypted. Is there some way to set up ipfw to block access to port 443 if the URL/IP matches a certain address? These users are bypassing our filter rules by accessing a proxy site that is using https. The current ruleset on the box is 00049 allow tcp from to any 00050 fwd ,3128 tcp from any to any 80 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any 65000 allow ip from any to any 65535 deny ip from any to any Can someone help with some suggestions? Does the Linux firewall system have a similar way to block access to a particular IP if it were doing forwarding? We were experimenting with a new proxy machine but it is running Ubuntu. -Bart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:01:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DBB16A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D30A13C45E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so1987625nfc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:01:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UFn646MsEqedLHSGM+Jwdg0R2LQqT0EjiiDLOc/g4Vh9Mz3/TEIL8uxOsIgBBA/+o+fR4CIwbxMdZp+kpp9dc7/O6VDtioH8PDLaqlYZx032mZIOJWSAa4bIsjrtQXZgOcEsnV7M+VGX+q7eBBW7FlzRoKTsAZlaYJsWbQ6K4N0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eCH7oC0G1bzYw9Hj4aRq4PE/a/7T8FFsCIL31DpfxD5ilxExZm28BMeBYQG3xIBhYVdH977zTpO9/26McI5n83bTk5GW4hMuUoPLGLhTJWUBOvQ6zZdAyRDoxY5Xx4wwOieRKOyTG2/Zolz2o56XH6YcaoBXcDrXAWXC9NRfIL4= Received: by 10.82.107.15 with SMTP id f15mr8751113buc.1173722460287; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.163.6 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990703121100k1be31052m19cad6acef12f6c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:00:59 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: "Mike Tancsa" In-Reply-To: <200703121231.l2CCVN1d017433@lava.sentex.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200703121231.l2CCVN1d017433@lava.sentex.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Post DST changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:01:02 -0000 On 3/12/07, Mike Tancsa wrote: > I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST > change this weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK [...] > yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !? > > if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not > for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. > Most applications seem this way. On my more recent boxes this didnt > happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 > boxes, the same odd behavior. Restart any programs that aren't picking up the time change. >From the tzsetup(8) man page: "BUGS Programs which are already running when tzsetup creates or updates /etc/localtime will not reflect the updated timezone." - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:01:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B7716A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhengyi@zhengyi.ath.cx) Received: from zhengyi.ath.cx (adsl-75-36-166-191.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [75.36.166.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9F013C4C1 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhengyi@zhengyi.ath.cx) Received: by zhengyi.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E43D25081A; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:44:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:44:24 -0800 From: Justin Meyer To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20070312184424.GC19212@oracle.local.lan> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <499c70c0703112220y6f6dba6fhb3784a54682dacc9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <499c70c0703112220y6f6dba6fhb3784a54682dacc9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: Absolutely None Subject: Re: PHP 5.2.1 and the hard time with vbulletin 3.6.4 (solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zhengyi@anarkismus.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:01:58 -0000 Hi Abdullah! On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > On 2/27/07, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > >On 2/26/07, Joe Auty wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Have you recompiled all PHP extensions too? > >> > >> I believe the php5-pcre extension might handle perl regular > >> expressions (preg_replace) in PHP. > >> > > > >Yes I did portupgrade -f "php*" > > > >There is a thread about it in vbulletin > > > >http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1312516#post1312516 > > > >-- > >Regards, > > > >-Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri > >Arab Portal > >http://www.WeArab.Net/ > > > > This how I got it fixed. > > portupgrade -frR pcre-utf8-7.0 > portupgrade -frR php5-pcre-5.2.1_3 > > Could someone tell me please why did I need to do this to get it fixed? No idea here, but I believe I encountered the same issue under Gallery2 (http://gallery.menalto.com), and a similar solution fixed it. I'm just replying here in case anybody does a search... Cheers, Justin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:12:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE2D16A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320FB13C448 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so2229073ugh for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:12:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=E5vzwz+OqYxZovlXJ5jurMUcsPR+Q0BSUbGYYNEFMxkJo60atIHo1yNZo8dKxVQqAmTQHi20gQRpkRLUNALPA71YSESvgn6QLcqDQ3dSo9HB6oSv/GifYJUWE/OD2Qms9MUgHOPVK52z3pvIXJyG7NYMjN7qan4EXGYGg55/HIM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qXgg8e4ZCYlwIS3Y0ta9jn6taeJlcjGbtXy1j7L8QiGwNQwUK6DDOCzUfxWsaPfcXBkJfvC72Ziu5ZOhkTFiPznpPFjrFLEJjOEeC9V208eHtCGBjlsS76GixmYgYDfwPh7Sd26uOZljlI3PzhxIr4w8IPAR1Cq6JgFSvRtlb0Y= Received: by 10.114.202.15 with SMTP id z15mr2001931waf.1173723153188; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.190.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:12:33 +0200 From: "Dima Sorkin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070312163658.P82696@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <87f7f4170703120817y5bf532cwe067efbf9c831ff5@mail.gmail.com> <20070312163658.P82696@chylonia.3miasto.net> Subject: Re: diskonkey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:12:38 -0000 Hi. Thanks for resolving the case. diskonkey works fine. Dima. On 3/12/07, Wojciech Pucha wrote: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:13:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90D816A405 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D8D13C487 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2CIDZXk033730; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:13:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2684CB845; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:13:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:13:35 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Alexander Schlichting Message-ID: <20070312181335.GA26863@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Alexander Schlichting , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recover Make ARG's from a ports Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:13:37 -0000 --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 08:18:25AM +0100, Alexander Schlichting wrote: > =20 >=20 > On a server I have a package installed using ports and now I have to inst= all > the package with exactly the same make arguments on another server. I just > don't find a way to see what arguments where used to install it the first > time. With Linux I would look into config.status is there something simil= ar > with FreeBSD? Sorry for having to ask but I am using FreeBSD for the first > days now after 5 years using Linux only :) If the arguments are given on the command line when invonkig make in the port directory, they are not saved. A mechanism (called OPTIONS) was later added to the ports infrastructure that does save the arguments. Not all ports have been completely converted to using options, and some arguments cannot be set with options. But if arguments are set with the OPTIONS mechanism, you can find them in the file /var/db/ports//options. Additionally, arguments can be set in /etc/make.conf. Those should look like this: =2Eif ${.CURDIR:M*/graphics/povray} WITH_OPTIMIZED_FLAGS=3Dyes =2Eendif This means that when make is invoked in a directory that ends in graphics/povray, the variable WITH_OPTIMIZED_FLAGS is set. HTH, Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQFF9ZhPEnfvsMMhpyURAjWkAJ4sdXP2yCL1JV7kVf9kxGKresVuGACXcN1M dGDeHtvJqJ0CRu5L/Nen5g== =rsO7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:16:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0796D16A406 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB80013C46A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2CIGHRH079239; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:16:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l2CIGFDb018814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:16:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <200703121816.l2CIGFDb018814@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:18:28 -0400 To: "Bob Johnson" From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <54db43990703121100k1be31052m19cad6acef12f6c1@mail.gmail.co m> References: <200703121231.l2CCVN1d017433@lava.sentex.ca> <54db43990703121100k1be31052m19cad6acef12f6c1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Post DST changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:16:18 -0000 At 02:00 PM 3/12/2007, Bob Johnson wrote: >On 3/12/07, Mike Tancsa wrote: >>I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST >>change this weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK >[...] >>yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !? >> >>if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not >>for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. >>Most applications seem this way. On my more recent boxes this didnt >>happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 >>boxes, the same odd behavior. > >Restart any programs that aren't picking up the time change. > > From the tzsetup(8) man page: >"BUGS > Programs which are already running when tzsetup creates or updates > /etc/localtime will not reflect the updated timezone." > >- Bob Note self, "Always read BUGS section from now on" :( Thanks for pointing that out. ---Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:20:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9760316A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F8F13C459 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1402389ana for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:20:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MLiX+1LaRP19nI+yrh84K76A17PupfrAm49jgLDPijr55v2G2KPpO4qptPw8yfosPZ/yWaNcpFmme1SZ77H21Jzu1O2pZKPjnKSr6Q+hzuYRNZ/ZPjoeT5bTjhi63peBHoGfVmSuioskkZT/lgs3my4am5osnnUo3wAIW6ZmYAM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aY2VKUwC2BKYfLVul1bjOVgldd9Dipyq/pdYRmeuMWj+raUEJtqEuHJdZaquXm8fQGYDMUpqfhDyuo/GlkoAI0pMJY4wdy2rewhdMbTIT5iInB72c0GSuKilE4XyYCvdY9iy4X9Uj9n3cys1U+dz4hnnvSVQ1D3KR7jIUydSDlw= Received: by 10.114.205.1 with SMTP id c1mr1985849wag.1173723654656; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.190.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:20:54 +0200 From: "Dima Sorkin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20070309133935.024b8fd0@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.0.0.22.2.20070309094909.024c9dd0@mail.computinginnovations.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20070309133935.024b8fd0@mail.computinginnovations.com> Subject: Re: limitiation on memory allocation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:20:57 -0000 Hi. I experimented with the values: 1) On my machine 'maxusers' doesn't influence the maximum memory allowable for allocation for single process. 2) 'maxdsiz' - Yes, as long as I keep 'maxdsiz + maxssiz' below physical memory size - everything is fine. Single process allocates successfully up to 'maxdsiz'. When tried to put 'maxdsiz' > phys mem size, indeed the system failed to boot, in all modes: multiuser, singleuser, safe. So I derive from here that there is no way to cause a _single process_ on FreeBSD to allocate more than physical memory size (?) Thank you and regards, Dima. On 3/9/07, Derek Ragona wrote: > Not all the settings there are tuneable. In 6.X the allowable memory is > somewhat automatic based on the max users. Your kernel is set to 384. You > can try changing that. > > You can also make some kernel settings in: > /boot/loader.conf > > You can see the possible variables to set in: > /boot/defaults/loader.conf > > I think the one variable you may want to change is: > kern.maxdsiz="to your actual real memory size" > Don't make this larger than the real memory, in my experience that will > cause the system to not boot properly into multi-user. > At 11:06 AM 3/9/2007, Dima Sorkin wrote: > On FreeBSD 6.2 i386 with 2GB of physical memory I can't allocate > more than 500Mb for my program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:20:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D7E16A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wayne@manor.msen.com) Received: from manor.msen.com (manor.msen.com [148.59.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C2913C45D for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wayne@manor.msen.com) Received: from manor.msen.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manor.msen.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2CHvD66072243 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:57:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wayne@manor.msen.com) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by manor.msen.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l2CHvDgZ072242 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:57:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wayne) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:57:13 -0500 From: "Michael R. Wayne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070312175713.GF16373@manor.msen.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: natd and jails for multipel IP addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:20:59 -0000 I'm trying to add a second IP address to an existing jail using natd and I must be missing something. Setup: HOST_IP The host, attached to fxp0 JAIL_IP The existing, working jail 2ND_IP The IP address I'm trying to natd to the jail I've got ipfw rules to catch traffic to/from the new IP and nothing blocking them: 00300 divert 8668 ip from any to 2ND_IP via fxp0 00310 divert 8668 ip from 2ND_IP to any via fxp0 natd is running with: /sbin/natd -log -verbose -redirect_address JAIL_IP 2ND_IP -alias_address JAIL_IP But, natd seems to be translating the source, not the dest IP: % ping 2ND_IP yields: Out {default}[ICMP] [ICMP] HOST_IP -> 2ND_IP 8(0) aliased to [ICMP] JAIL_IP -> 2ND_IP 8(0) Whereas, I would expect this to do: HOST_IP -> 2ND_IP translated to HOST_IP -> JAIL_IP and the reverse. WTH am I missing here? /\/\ \/\/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:28:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64ACC16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E951D13C448 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so2234862ugh for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:28:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XlU1gzc+XmtJ7/DaBPjyUODE98oPaUFkjg1zogwOUIXg/QpC54dOlVfYRFo+f8DgIsVOaqxy5xtOp4M91qspRELpZrJZo9R8uSuM0x0qCtL0Y/cEroZ6YbnxUXJe7O1uFHmPQ49KTupF/6EZSTuSbNoiGg4PT2Pfz1UfHPdnr/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GZ+wI3SXFY4VNjorqWlDczz9vJFoo9FomQTa3+WOvYu9gMVS+qleVaw6WJU6kZ51FpkwhU/AkRVoF+eMHAHigkHt5Ae5aD1by4IIJt7/WjGbcpiUu1NIVmGJJhy/ojWL63W7XBKIMjBXI0AYJEk9YDGf5silKUG4Ni3IQB+7dYw= Received: by 10.114.60.19 with SMTP id i19mr1991993waa.1173724100023; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.190.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:28:19 +0200 From: "Dima Sorkin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: choosing window manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:28:23 -0000 Hi. 1) How do I start KDE / FVWM2/ GNOME / TWM / Windowmaker ? ( I've choosed them during installation ) 2) Is there some nice "welcome" program, that allows to choose a session kind ? Dima. On FreeBSD 6.2 i386, > startx -- starts TWM root> gdm -- starts gnome desktop manager, which allows to start only GNOME (I was used that it allows to launch any WM, but in this case - only GNOME). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:48:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F2716A408 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE2A13C4C1 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay5.apple.com (a17-128-113-35.apple.com [17.128.113.35]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2CImxmK000229; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay5.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay5.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 50C0629C004; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:48:59 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807123-9d11bbb000004462-3d-45f5a09bc224 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay5.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 3BEEC30400B; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:48:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.0.22.2.20070309094909.024c9dd0@mail.computinginnovations.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20070309133935.024b8fd0@mail.computinginnovations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:48:58 -0700 To: Dima Sorkin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limitiation on memory allocation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:48:59 -0000 On Mar 12, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Dima Sorkin wrote: > 2) 'maxdsiz' - Yes, as long as I keep 'maxdsiz + maxssiz' below > physical > memory size - everything is fine. Single process allocates > successfully > up to 'maxdsiz'. > When tried to put 'maxdsiz' > phys mem size, > indeed the system failed to boot, in all modes: > multiuser, singleuser, safe. > > So I derive from here that there is no way to cause a _single process_ > on FreeBSD to allocate more than physical memory size (?) It is certainly possible to configure FreeBSD to allow a single process to access more memory than is phyiscally installed. For example, I have a machine with 512MB of RAM, and set: kern.dfldsiz="1G" ...in /boot/loader.conf, and this works just fine. Admittedly, when a process does exceed 512MB in dsize, the system starts swapping quite a bit, but that's how virtual memory works. However, you cannot set maxdsiz greater than 4GB [1] if you are running a 32-bit version of FreeBSD. Enabling PAE will let the kernel access more than 4GB of physical RAM, but nothing is going to let a 32-bit system give more than 4 GB [1] to a single process...if you want to do that, then you'll need to switch to running a 64-bit version of FreeBSD. -- -Chuck [1]: Well, 3.5GB or 3GB, actually...due to the top portion of address space being occupied by PCI device space and the kernel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 18:53:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC9516A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B494C13C459 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB838EBC62; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:53:06 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Drew Jenkins Message-Id: <20070312145306.e5f8491b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <825484.90051.qm@web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <825484.90051.qm@web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How Do I Find Find? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:53:09 -0000 In response to Drew Jenkins : > I built a home server to prepare to build a new production server. Well, > the latter is built out, but when I went back to the former, it said there > was a problem with my last shutdown (which I don't remember) and went into > single user mode. I went to run a "find" and it complained it couldn't find > the "find" command! I thought, what the heck, no great loss, I'll just > rebuild this machine. But after re-installing FBSD, it *still* can't find > the "find" command! Now I'm worried! It wasn't in /usr/bin/ What happened > to this installation?? My first guess would be that when you rebooted into single user mode, your /usr partition wasn't mounted so find wasn't accessable. Not sure how you managed to "rebuild" the machine and still have find missing, but I can't really guess that without knowing what you meant by "rebuilt". Is /usr mounted? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:02:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECB616A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC7813C46C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so1012916wrq for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:02:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DPaI1XNLl7jIgiN6Ac9YwFBUYCPztVAbXRO8hESClK9RmWgiP2u5MDvGmYSvdEBUeInkHLVYAGIclUTwOZz087Zu2ZhFMGxvg7oUERUjL/G3y+tpCtRm0cZhVcpaNX73kN++zhrFhcjOrnr0MOrdEOX1Iw6oZxNndTfhyYtAR3U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jkRhukmvx381aTJ2FvV204VUDbIGKPo36osDTR37EU95HkHssgYf4wckaKcHq9wN3umF6fGBlhb5CBHytjBC2cGPRCOKvY0hcfofZnO0nlvLuJ8evHJHIio0adO6LxMQgmsBrjz+TUuNb22YMcT/sV0nS9eFrzdMwCncH02pY8Q= Received: by 10.114.148.1 with SMTP id v1mr2017246wad.1173726167870; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.190.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:02:47 +0200 From: "Dima Sorkin" To: "Chuck Swiger" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.0.0.22.2.20070309094909.024c9dd0@mail.computinginnovations.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20070309133935.024b8fd0@mail.computinginnovations.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limitiation on memory allocation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:02:50 -0000 Hi. Something is probably wrong. kern.dfldsiz on my machine does not influence. I.e. after booting I run $ limits and it shows me the old 500M. Now, a point about 'maxdsiz'= 3.0-3.5G instead of 4G - this one I must check. I tried 3.9G :) Thanks, Dima. On 3/12/07, Chuck Swiger wrote: > It is certainly possible to configure FreeBSD to allow a single > process to access more memory than is phyiscally installed. For > example, I have a machine with 512MB of RAM, and set: > > kern.dfldsiz="1G" > > ...in /boot/loader.conf, and this works just fine. Admittedly, when > a process does exceed 512MB in dsize, the system starts swapping > quite a bit, but that's how virtual memory works. > > However, you cannot set maxdsiz greater than 4GB [1] if you are > running a 32-bit version of FreeBSD. Enabling PAE will let the > kernel access more than 4GB of physical RAM, but nothing is going to > let a 32-bit system give more than 4 GB [1] to a single process...if > you want to do that, then you'll need to switch to running a 64-bit > version of FreeBSD. > > -- > -Chuck > > [1]: Well, 3.5GB or 3GB, actually...due to the top portion of address > space being occupied by PCI device space and the kernel. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:06:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CB916A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crstn_fuchs@yahoo.de) Received: from smtp008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E44C13C457 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crstn_fuchs@yahoo.de) Received: (qmail 31078 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 19:06:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.de; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vP/m30aG9cqT9eFqwDGMN++y+TTVjUpdiGu7A86DewpKYrH1w+n6bixD5LtqK2mornd74YkMsLPNHYn/BZP0kXhf3qTRPR2TD/ri+94BVMVfx33qbN+yZjCPNrgdoqmLLcUz6OZvEdX5pLKFFXB5/hX+SjNRnL9NPHoBq4koTRs= ; Received: from unknown (HELO nostromo.homeunix.org) (crstn_fuchs@89.57.59.63 with plain) by smtp008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 19:06:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: irza1SIVM1k05r51uzaDFFlIDpQnxkNEb4iJR1fd.FLm5MS4nTP4rAyadfcnFuqN.ivgsy3hxNuSLnEUaJnc0xDAVz9mUM4aRQzNrkZh4O3pUCb6xKGFqNUbKNDz_xLitgUNBY5c08c- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:06:31 +0100 From: Carsten Fuchs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070312200631.b0f639ed.crstn_fuchs@yahoo.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: choosing window manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:06:34 -0000 > 1) How do I start KDE / FVWM2/ GNOME / TWM / Windowmaker ? > ( I've choosed them during installation ) $ startkde or put something like this in your ~/.xinitrc: exec gnome-session or exec wmaker etc. and start x $ startx > 2) Is there some nice "welcome" program, > that allows to choose a session kind ? You can use kdm (KDE) or gdm (GDM), they're display managers that allow you to log into different sessions/desktop environments. you may install /usr/ports/x11/gdm and put the following line in your /etc/rc.conf file: gdm_enable="YES" GDM will be started automatically when you boot next time. Bye. ___________________________________________________________ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:11:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD1F16A408 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crstn_fuchs@yahoo.de) Received: from smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7225B13C465 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crstn_fuchs@yahoo.de) Received: (qmail 97211 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 19:11:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.de; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=362TqYMk0BeGGhpKj2OW6XHyBO2uVuQjUh5QrX7T2BSOtQRXSClH1GaRbQe890/jmB0vbu4xFAQJ81pwbvnju9NANj+cNV7M3B2LPoe+PdaqR67/QlnZOI1T+Tx5g3vinsk2QW/0vYNdMyf1M50x+pwyDjh3CIsP/5akT0n0YrU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO nostromo.homeunix.org) (crstn_fuchs@89.57.59.63 with plain) by smtp010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 19:11:01 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: U4MFwGYVM1mRLkClnUG2n5EapTpUEVoOdWwEstDgXpgqDQcDl9yXIxuBeZpvN2pTL.eYJaT0AGwIKjuY.C2bmcloZZb6N0E5S.QQnCFFU_mpVNXXFkaGGGCL23jpRuRuSDgXZML6gK.zhSf9HQ0OqtE- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:11:00 +0100 From: Carsten Fuchs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070312201100.b3d666aa.crstn_fuchs@yahoo.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: choosing window manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:11:04 -0000 I didn't read to the end... > root> gdm -- starts gnome desktop manager, > which allows to start only GNOME > (I was used that it allows to launch any WM, > but in this case - only GNOME). How do I add new GDM sessions? http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q16 HTH, bye. ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:14:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F87716A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545E813C465 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay5.apple.com (relay5.apple.com [17.128.113.35]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2CJE3B8007594; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay5.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay5.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 0D01C29C005; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:14:03 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807123-9f920bb000004462-83-45f5a67b0bf7 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay5.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 021B330400C; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:14:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.0.22.2.20070309094909.024c9dd0@mail.computinginnovations.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20070309133935.024b8fd0@mail.computinginnovations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8E7D8006-9480-4CF7-B670-1328BB881FCE@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:14:02 -0700 To: Dima Sorkin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limitiation on memory allocation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:14:03 -0000 On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Dima Sorkin wrote: > Something is probably wrong. > kern.dfldsiz on my machine does not influence. I don't believe you can change that value after the system has booted-- you have to set it either in the kernel's config file, or in /boot/loader.conf, for this to actually take effect. > I.e. after booting I run > $ limits > and it shows me the old 500M. > > Now, a point about 'maxdsiz'= 3.0-3.5G instead of 4G - this one I > must check. > I tried 3.9G :) Try using 3GB, agreed. Also, please note that the dftdsiz keyword affects the "hard" limit, not the "soft" limit...your shell might well have 500MB "soft" dsize limit by default, but would permit you to change that upward to the maximum set by the "hard" limit once you've changed that value. See "man getrlimit": A resource limit is specified as a soft limit and a hard limit. When a soft limit is exceeded a process may receive a signal (for example, if the cpu time or file size is exceeded), but it will be allowed to con- tinue execution until it reaches the hard limit (or modifies its resource limit). The rlimit structure is used to specify the hard and soft limits on a resource, struct rlimit { rlim_t rlim_cur; /* current (soft) limit */ rlim_t rlim_max; /* maximum value for rlim_cur */ }; Only the super-user may raise the maximum limits. Other users may only alter rlim_cur within the range from 0 to rlim_max or (irreversibly) lower rlim_max. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:33:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC39516A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0F6613C448 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 79062 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Mar 2007 19:33:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=MPmu6g39dGZr4lQqdezVpsxsxiZkZap1gCodwYx0w5vGjapA/C2jjVCKf66yoRizmCy7nQW6PnXnPF+l3o5HDD+6xdQxZ2eStM6MyJn+RhX5rkUcGvBmxmu66w3gADIeBjUDAJd2Sbtnv+1dsNyu4kVcoyvPiemOviDPZlWeUZU=; X-YMail-OSG: 9q9bYMsVM1lk298DgubLSeW2gzKrDq7sorO0l6u1 Received: from [69.19.14.18] by web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:33:26 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:33:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070312145306.e5f8491b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <972812.65656.qm@web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: How Do I Find Find? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:33:28 -0000 Yes, /usr is mounted. When I say rebuild, I mean I stuck the FBSD 6.2 CD erased the old installation and reinstalled. Drew3 Bill Moran wrote: In response to Drew Jenkins : > I built a home server to prepare to build a new production server. Well, > the latter is built out, but when I went back to the former, it said there > was a problem with my last shutdown (which I don't remember) and went into > single user mode. I went to run a "find" and it complained it couldn't find > the "find" command! I thought, what the heck, no great loss, I'll just > rebuild this machine. But after re-installing FBSD, it *still* can't find > the "find" command! Now I'm worried! It wasn't in /usr/bin/ What happened > to this installation?? My first guess would be that when you rebooted into single user mode, your /usr partition wasn't mounted so find wasn't accessable. Not sure how you managed to "rebuild" the machine and still have find missing, but I can't really guess that without knowing what you meant by "rebuilt". Is /usr mounted? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:33:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6174316A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl (psmtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.247.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2882B13C484 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JET00FZK2CETI@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:33:50 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:33:50 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> To: Tore Lund Message-id: <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:33:51 -0000 Tore Lund wrote: > > I believe it's enough to put this line into /boot/device.hints: > > hint.agp.0.disabled="1" > > >> Is this really true? Who can confirm this? I also wonder why glxgears in >> FreeBSD gives me 5000 fps, while in Linux gives me 13000. To get 5000 >> fps in Linux I need to disable 3d support :-\ . >> > > Have you installed the port or package "nvidia-driver" (or one of its > siblings)? The documentation that comes with it will probably tell you > what you need to know. > > On my own machine I have NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-9631, and I get this: > > %sysctl hw.nvidia.agp.status > hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia > hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 4x > hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: disabled > I have installed the port nvidia-driver. I have followed all the step in the readme (including adding the line to /boot/device.hint see below). I wonder though is nvidia 3d acceleration supported under FreeBSD? From the readme: / The NVIDIA Accelerated FreeBSD Driver Set brings accelerated 2D functionality and high-performance OpenGL support to FreeBSD x86 with the use of NVIDIA graphics processing units (GPUs). These drivers provide optimized hardware acceleration for OpenGL and X applications and support nearly all recent NVIDIA graphics chips (please see Appendix A for a complete list of supported chips). TwinView, TV-Out and flat panel displays are also supported. / P.S. I also have ran ppracer. Results: *FreeBSD* *110 fps* *Gentoo Linux* *240 fps* Additional information: *# tail /boot/device.hints* /hint.ie.0.maddr="0xd0000" hint.fe.0.at="isa" hint.fe.0.disabled="1" hint.fe.0.port="0x300" hint.lnc.0.at="isa" hint.lnc.0.disabled="1" hint.lnc.0.port="0x280" hint.lnc.0.irq="10" hint.lnc.0.drq="0" hint.agp.0.disabled="1"/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:41:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD1716A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA5713C45A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2CJf0oc075563 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:41:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2CJf0Oe075562 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:41:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:41:00 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20070312194100.GA17033@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: what "port*" string can I crontab that will *work*? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:41:00 -0000 Guys, Anybody have an automatic (/etc/crontab) method of keeping ports current? I'm almost done upgrading my 5 systems to 6.2 (to be able to grab valid packages) and tried portupgrade with several variants of flags/switches. portuprade with -rpfP wound up recycling my packages most of the time. [?] I've starting to think that there may be no way of doing this automatically. portmanager -b -u -l may be better:: dunno. thanks for some insights here, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:44:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8BC16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF6C13C46A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FD068604393; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:45:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UTwNbkM-rbCy; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 8574168604392; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:45:25 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070312194525.GB4360@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200703121231.l2CCVN1d017433@lava.sentex.ca> <54db43990703121100k1be31052m19cad6acef12f6c1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54db43990703121100k1be31052m19cad6acef12f6c1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Subject: Re: Post DST changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:44:32 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2007, Bob Johnson wrote: >On 3/12/07, Mike Tancsa wrote: >>I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST >>change this weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK >[...] >>yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !? >> >>if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not >>for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. >>Most applications seem this way. On my more recent boxes this didnt >>happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 >>boxes, the same odd behavior. > >Restart any programs that aren't picking up the time change. Probably the most important of these is cron as the major effect with many other programs would be to have bogus entries in log files. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 Manual, n.: A unit of documentation. There are always three or more on a given item. One is on the shelf; someone has the others. The information you need is in the others. -- Ray Simard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:48:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE8816A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D53513C469 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dima.sorkin@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so2030944nfc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:48:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=N4sFT6s8AOsXutMn7bi6PhqW7IxD9Pyi5YrvAXJsekJqnXtnAsYkNLwWhB0TS6PoEr8q1lHuoMWdzR291EuYFMlgWvr/Rn8vk/Fp8/wKykoWcoKlQjvOH+87Hpbb2E4NpRxvAGcYyNReklytOnHc/PtOaxmdVdDQrOKGy/a0bX0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=l/nMPFM5bp/ugXu9b0isdN42Hlu/ZEEzDP5+1c449dUM4bWKTcgh9Zs7F1R2Ws+MJr5NrCfK9oFzhPRS/Mhn+4Y97nbhencyYxK3VxeaPeu/3qVSgdk5LSE46LKKxcQgiGCfi0AtFdc+vcz4SC7jIH4fYyYppUmzKEchSUgtC0Y= Received: by 10.114.157.1 with SMTP id f1mr2086626wae.1173728914542; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.190.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:48:33 +0200 From: "Dima Sorkin" To: "Chuck Swiger" In-Reply-To: <8E7D8006-9480-4CF7-B670-1328BB881FCE@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.0.0.22.2.20070309094909.024c9dd0@mail.computinginnovations.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20070309133935.024b8fd0@mail.computinginnovations.com> <8E7D8006-9480-4CF7-B670-1328BB881FCE@mac.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limitiation on memory allocation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:48:37 -0000 Hi. Great. After some tries 2.9GB was the maximum that it works with. Ok with me. --RESOLVED-- About 'dfldsiz' - I meant that I've set it in /boot/loader.conf via 'su -' , and rebooted the machine. It didn't influenced. (It was the first try today, may be I did something wrong, though.) But the 'maxdsiz' works fine, and 'limits' shows the value I've set (2.9G). Thank you. Dima. On 3/12/07, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Dima Sorkin wrote: > > Something is probably wrong. > > kern.dfldsiz on my machine does not influence. > > I don't believe you can change that value after the system has > booted-- you have to set it either in the kernel's config file, or > in /boot/loader.conf, for this to actually take effect. > > > I.e. after booting I run > > $ limits > > and it shows me the old 500M. > > > > Now, a point about 'maxdsiz'= 3.0-3.5G instead of 4G - this one I > > must check. > > I tried 3.9G :) > > Try using 3GB, agreed. > > Also, please note that the dftdsiz keyword affects the "hard" limit, > not the "soft" limit...your shell might well have 500MB "soft" dsize > limit by default, but would permit you to change that upward to the > maximum set by the "hard" limit once you've changed that value. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:49:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E17016A54C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F1313C480 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay7.apple.com (a17-128-113-37.apple.com [17.128.113.37]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2CJn0wg008895; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay7.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay7.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id ACA9430066; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:49:00 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807125-a2c7cbb0000007df-16-45f5aeacb734 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay7.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 964FA30048; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:49:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20070312194100.GA17033@thought.org> References: <20070312194100.GA17033@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:48:59 -0700 To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what "port*" string can I crontab that will *work*? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:49:01 -0000 On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:41 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > Anybody have an automatic (/etc/crontab) method of keeping > ports current? I'm almost done upgrading my 5 systems to > 6.2 (to be able to grab valid packages) and tried portupgrade > with several variants of flags/switches. portuprade with > -rpfP wound up recycling my packages most of the time. [?] > I've starting to think that there may be no way of doing this > automatically. portmanager -b -u -l may be better:: dunno. Trying to set up something to update ports automatically works only when the changes involved do not require human intervention to adjust config files, restart services after the update, and so forth. In other words, this will work OK for a short period of time in the face of minor version bumps, but as soon as a major change to one port occurs which requires one to adjust or change a config file, an automated update will break there. There is no free lunch with regard to managing servers...a human eventually needs to oversee the process. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 19:55:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B534416A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFBD13C484 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HQqbm-0001rI-3v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:55:02 +0100 Received: from 89-172-41-244.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.41.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:55:02 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-41-244.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:55:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:51:33 +0100 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <6faf55220703100845u62eab431y3a16ae0d8cb3bba7@mail.gmail.com> <55D533EB-26F9-40B7-838B-8BCB9D0A9463@tca-cable-connector.com> <20070310223906.E8914@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311194326.4da9e341@vixen42> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig91EE151B0DD58E625DB6BCA8" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-41-244.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) In-Reply-To: <20070311194326.4da9e341@vixen42> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: Howmany CPU Does FreeBSD Support ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:55:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig91EE151B0DD58E625DB6BCA8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vulpes Velox wrote: > That is only true if the process is giant locked. When look at dmesg, > look for things that say GIANT-LOCKED and those will be ones confined > to one processor.=20 Which happens to include all SCSI devices I've encountered... sigh. And it's NOT rare to see giant locked processes on a heavily loaded web server. --------------enig91EE151B0DD58E625DB6BCA8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF9a9FldnAQVacBcgRAuIHAKC09alq1FX69ZSUC8NFJySnnOhUlgCfVJQW 6gov8uw4r1a77OWDQXpaKuk= =3Jyp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig91EE151B0DD58E625DB6BCA8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:05:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D2F16A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9E813C465 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1691713wxc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.131.20 with SMTP id e20mr11342930wxd.1173729904366; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h16sm6057001wxd.2007.03.12.13.05.03; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:05:00 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070312160500.173fe5cf@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070312194100.GA17033@thought.org> References: <20070312194100.GA17033@thought.org> Organization: Seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_pXDiB3wrex8Lo=u0KI+KDZ8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: what "port*" string can I crontab that will *work*? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:05:05 -0000 --Sig_pXDiB3wrex8Lo=u0KI+KDZ8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:41:00 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > Anybody have an automatic (/etc/crontab) method of keeping=20 > ports current? I'm almost done upgrading my 5 systems to > 6.2 (to be able to grab valid packages) and tried portupgrade > with several variants of flags/switches. portuprade with=20 > -rpfP wound up recycling my packages most of the time. [?] > I've starting to think that there may be no way of doing this > automatically. portmanager -b -u -l may be better:: dunno. >=20 > thanks for some insights here, Actually, I use something like that. I created a script that runs both portsnap and portmanager. #!/bin/sh /usr/sbin/portsnap cron update /usr/local/bin/portmanager -u -l -p I call this script from CRON once a week. It seems to work quite well. If you have a MAILTO in CRON, it will even give you a print out of what transpired. You can just send output to /dev/null of course. Do make sure you have the latest version of 'portmanager' installed. It was recently updated. You cannot update it using itself. You must use the 'make install && make clean' method. If you are not familiar with 'portsnap', just read the manual. --=20 Gerard If you are afraid of loneliness, don't marry. Anton Chekov --Sig_pXDiB3wrex8Lo=u0KI+KDZ8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF9bJsFCqdq4D1ybYRAk1fAJ9UjmT1x7hW0beCcxpKOdCkSve8zgCg4b/w HBC/NEcYAXyUGOnfxPwJGm8= =rJ+g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_pXDiB3wrex8Lo=u0KI+KDZ8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:14:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A667316A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yoda@services.lhsystems.com) Received: from mail3.lhsystems.com (mail3.lhsystems.com [193.24.33.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634F313C457 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yoda@services.lhsystems.com) Received: from xw2k3-fracon-01.ads.dlh.de (unknown [57.20.111.190]) by mail3.lhsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410AC36A3A8 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:43:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from lnx-frasmtp-1.cns.fra.dlh.de ([57.20.111.93]) by xw2k3-fracon-01.ads.dlh.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:48:01 +0100 Received: from yoda.lsy.bud.dlh.de (unknown [57.56.133.122]) by lnx-frasmtp-1.cns.fra.dlh.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36651F8EBC for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:48:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from yoda.lsy.bud.dlh.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yoda.lsy.bud.dlh.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2CJm1i7005713 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:48:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from teflon@yoda.lsy.bud.dlh.de) Received: (from teflon@localhost) by yoda.lsy.bud.dlh.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2CJm16M005712 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:48:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from teflon) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:48:01 +0100 From: SITKEI Attila To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20070312194801.GP81061@yoda.lsy.bud.dlh.de> References: <20070312194100.GA17033@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070312194100.GA17033@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2007 19:48:01.0733 (UTC) FILETIME=[57D3C750:01C764DF] Subject: Re: what "port*" string can I crontab that will *work*? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:14:21 -0000 > Anybody have an automatic (/etc/crontab) method of keeping > ports current? I'm almost done upgrading my 5 systems to > 6.2 (to be able to grab valid packages) and tried portupgrade > with several variants of flags/switches. portuprade with > -rpfP wound up recycling my packages most of the time. [?] > I've starting to think that there may be no way of doing this > automatically. portmanager -b -u -l may be better:: dunno. Gary, You may give ctm(1) a shot. HTH --tef From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:16:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729FB16A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sct.denver@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CBF13C4B9 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sct.denver@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so1787500ika for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:16:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=oTZ0I265/2PJiXzfA2QGekX0EuwWsk5K2LW1j8qtBvG2TV2j1wOwFevwi/jk7Wl7aNABmCWHsxtG3En3tKVrIBwFMYCzVlNkTYHVWTsPGo+dWUSLNNoEDGs4ok6oX8N0/yhzGO7JNn1GCXDXLxzt9Ls4ysyjGtaunGMFVHKEZOQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JRu9K5Hca//y7Ej7tttSiG1EJiO44H5vGU6mIjrtH2Ox93t9FTRV7bYeBGQftzPTDH7sEuWeHE/LYlMpaVK+TBs29Va1iEZDiD1AxwyxclAjl7dnY5wp043/5GdtsLCaDUzdwNP62eOg24A7c0c4k9gF3o1CLQ60GlXBaZ06RKU= Received: by 10.114.94.1 with SMTP id r1mr2058948wab.1173728973222; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.73.6 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:49:32 -0400 From: Denver To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Trouble compiling module, sys/vnode_if.h does not exist. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:16:36 -0000 When I try to compile a module I have written which includes I get the following message. @/sys/vnode.h:544:22: vnode_if.h: No such file or directory This is on a 6.2 Release machine. I took a look at sys/sys and it seems as though sys/vnode_if.h is not a part of the sources, but a header which is generated at kernel compile time. If this is true, what could be the reason that it is not generated on my machine? Thank you, Denver Cox From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:23:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA5316A404 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F1813C512 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2CKNNZK071332; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:23:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070312152033.02541530@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:23:07 -0500 To: Sunnz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Anyone use KSH? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:23:52 -0000 Those work fine for me, just add: set -o emacs to your login file(s). I actually have added to my .profile: if [ "$SHELL" = "/usr/local/bin/ksh" ] ; then if [ -f $HOME/.kshrc ] ; then . $HOME/.kshrc fi fi and have the ksh customizations in: .kshrc -Derek At 10:55 AM 3/12/2007, Sunnz wrote: >Just installed Release 6.2 on my workstation, and the first thing I >did was installing (pd)ksh since I have been using it before... > >I found that a few things doesn't work, tab-completion, up/down arrow >keys, ctrl-A ctrl-E to go to the beginning/end of a line. > >Does anyone uses ksh here who knows if this is normal behaviour? > >-- >Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. >See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:31:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE9316A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giacomo@eclypse.it) Received: from eclypse.it (host16-160.pool8252.interbusiness.it [82.52.160.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9637A13C45B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giacomo@eclypse.it) Received: from eclypse.it (localhost.it [127.0.0.1]) by eclypse.it (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2CKD7gX005428 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:13:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from giacomo@eclypse.it) Received: (from giacomo@localhost) by eclypse.it (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id l2CKD6TY005426 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:13:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from giacomo) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:13:06 +0100 From: FreeBSD User Giacomo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070312201306.GA4231@eclypse.it> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Samsung DVD writer. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:31:12 -0000 Hello to all. I have bought recently an external USB DVD writer Samsung Super (model SE-S184M/EUBN) I do not succeed in to burn DVD (only CD). The system (FreeBSD 6,1) recognizes masterizzatore like: umass0: TSST corp USB Mass Storage Device, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 3 cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: device Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers cd0: Device Attempt to query size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray close If I use the comand: dvd+rw- format /dev/cd0 I obtain * DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by , version 6.0. :-( (unable to GET CONFIGURATION: Input/output error and on the consul: umass0: Unsupported ATAPI command 0x46. Some idea? Thanks. -- Isaia Luciano FreeBSD user From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 20:41:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F08016A404 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail46.e.nsc.no (mail46.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2712E13C455 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [84.202.103.126] (084202103126.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.103.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail46.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l2CKfP8Q009490 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:41:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F5BAEF.5050506@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:41:19 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:41:28 -0000 hxc@planet.nl wrote: > I have installed the port nvidia-driver. I have followed all the step in > the readme (including adding the line to /boot/device.hint see below). OK. The line "hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled" looks very odd, so I had to ask. If you have also modified your xorg.conf according to the docs (or used nvidia-xconfig), this is baffling. Sorry I am unable to help. > P.S. > I also have ran ppracer. 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Update your profile http://ui.constantcontact.com/roving/d.jsp?p=oo&t=1101576109180&m=1010977931430&ea=freebsd-questions%40freebsd.org Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe(TM) http://ui.constantcontact.com/roving/d.jsp?p=un&t=1101576109180&m=1010977931430&ea=freebsd-questions%40freebsd.org Privacy Policy: http://ui.constantcontact.com/roving/CCPrivacyPolicy.jsp Powered by Constant Contact(R) www.constantcontact.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 21:05:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE3E16A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.247.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FCE13C484 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JET00EJI6LS85@smtp19.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:05:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:05:52 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <45F5BAEF.5050506@netscape.net> To: Tore Lund Message-id: <45F5C0B0.3030406@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> <45F5BAEF.5050506@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:05:54 -0000 OK. The line "hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled" looks very odd, so > I had to ask. If you have also modified your xorg.conf according to the > docs (or used nvidia-xconfig), this is baffling. Sorry I am unable to help. > > >> P.S. >> I also have ran ppracer. Results: >> >> *FreeBSD* >> *110 fps* >> >> *Gentoo Linux* >> *240 fps* >> > > I did not get more than 35 fps, in 800x600 resolution... > Lol! I am a spoiled gamer used to run the latest games on the highest setting (i.e. Armed Assault :-P ). I have used nvidia-xconfig and also configured xorg.conf manually. Do you agree with my assessment that 3d acceleration isn't working? Thanks for trying to help! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 21:09:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBFE16A404 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20A413C455 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1465371ana for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:09:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bp8WoWBWxdAYlKqc0VR3zsRYy9xzIw+1o31wunaEF0UgpKyDalDKe1NofFe8cGvNodyseMIGuxA7kSruxNP9whOCJCz8/RVEmeGqw7YGTRNHlek+jYzR+oEej+PlFmDB9z7kHi7adMDpHf+aLnZKvdOBwAGyVOmgvSvkooiUFC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=r7/Qqa8XQGY7RU930LW2/Eje3sJGnnDiLJzK1xepGWmxf2UddD0Yii6GmuzOy+57OqxfE29OsoDFwhHye1AC8RBcO9Clq/EgpUrWVXXKF+1qUJXcHdK1hhOckf9RblKsi7/sKwBB48MScPqTmGqJvFRUoHyZbhm4v0Nrkm8uIcM= Received: by 10.100.124.5 with SMTP id w5mr118904anc.1173733756760; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.109.12 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:09:16 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Ivan Voras" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6faf55220703100845u62eab431y3a16ae0d8cb3bba7@mail.gmail.com> <55D533EB-26F9-40B7-838B-8BCB9D0A9463@tca-cable-connector.com> <20070310223906.E8914@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311194326.4da9e341@vixen42> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howmany CPU Does FreeBSD Support ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:09:18 -0000 On 3/12/07, Ivan Voras wrote: > Vulpes Velox wrote: > > > That is only true if the process is giant locked. When look at dmesg, > > look for things that say GIANT-LOCKED and those will be ones confined > > to one processor. > > Which happens to include all SCSI devices I've encountered... > sigh. > > And it's NOT rare to see giant locked processes on a heavily loaded web > server. > No Giants Here: arcmsr0: mem 0xc8400000-0xc8400fff,0xc8800000-0xc8bfffff irq 16 at device 14.0 on pci10 ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: Driver Version 1.20.00.13 2006-8-18 ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: FIRMWARE VERSION V1.41 2006-5-24 pass1 at arcmsr0 bus 0 target 16 lun 0 pass1: Fixed Processor SCSI-0 device da0 at arcmsr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 166.666MB/s transfers (83.333MHz, offset 32, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 1430511MB (2929687040 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182364C) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 21:19:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBC316A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B8C13C55A for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id BD3D3381E0; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:19:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av10-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37BD381DB; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:19:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81-231-90-251-no41.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.90.251]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BBB37E52; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:19:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F5C378.8030107@passagen.se> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:17:44 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Jenkins References: <825484.90051.qm@web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <825484.90051.qm@web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How Do I Find Find? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:19:58 -0000 Hello Drew, As an alternative may I suggest using locate? You update the database by issuing /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb from shell. Then just locate what you want. Good luck! Drew Jenkins skrev: > I built a home server to prepare to build a new production server. Well, the latter is built out, but when I went back to the former, it said there was a problem with my last shutdown (which I don't remember) and went into single user mode. I went to run a "find" and it complained it couldn't find the "find" command! I thought, what the heck, no great loss, I'll just rebuild this machine. But after re-installing FBSD, it *still* can't find the "find" command! Now I'm worried! It wasn't in /usr/bin/ What happened to this installation?? > TIA, > Drew3 > > --------------------------------- > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 21:25:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458A216A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB52D13C455 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2CLPZff015623; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:25:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2CLPYSd015620; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:25:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:25:34 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20070312212534.GB76034@thought.org> References: <20070312194100.GA17033@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what "port*" string can I crontab that will *work*? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:25:35 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 12:48:59PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:41 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Anybody have an automatic (/etc/crontab) method of keeping > > ports current? I'm almost done upgrading my 5 systems to > > 6.2 (to be able to grab valid packages) and tried portupgrade > > with several variants of flags/switches. portuprade with > > -rpfP wound up recycling my packages most of the time. [?] > > I've starting to think that there may be no way of doing this > > automatically. portmanager -b -u -l may be better:: dunno. > > Trying to set up something to update ports automatically works only > when the changes involved do not require human intervention to adjust > config files, restart services after the update, and so forth. > > In other words, this will work OK for a short period of time in the > face of minor version bumps, but as soon as a major change to one > port occurs which requires one to adjust or change a config file, an > automated update will break there. There is no free lunch with > regard to managing servers...a human eventually needs to oversee the > process. > Rats. :-)/2. I started saving current ports to /usr/ports/packages to be able to scp the tbz files around. But at least five pkg_add's would be required, depending. And five pkgdb -F's too. (*mumble*) thanks, gary > -- > -Chuck > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 21:34:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A535C16A404 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:34:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BDF13C44B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:34:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2CLYWQ7024044; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:34:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2CLYWeI024043; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:34:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:34:32 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Gerard Seibert Message-ID: <20070312213432.GC76034@thought.org> References: <20070312194100.GA17033@thought.org> <20070312160500.173fe5cf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070312160500.173fe5cf@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what "port*" string can I crontab that will *work*? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:34:32 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 04:05:00PM -0400, Gerard Seibert wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:41:00 -0800 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > Anybody have an automatic (/etc/crontab) method of keeping > > ports current? I'm almost done upgrading my 5 systems to > > 6.2 (to be able to grab valid packages) and tried portupgrade > > with several variants of flags/switches. portuprade with > > -rpfP wound up recycling my packages most of the time. [?] > > I've starting to think that there may be no way of doing this > > automatically. portmanager -b -u -l may be better:: dunno. > > > > thanks for some insights here, > > Actually, I use something like that. I created a script that runs both > portsnap and portmanager. > > > #!/bin/sh > /usr/sbin/portsnap cron update > /usr/local/bin/portmanager -u -l -p > > I call this script from CRON once a week. It seems to work quite well. > If you have a MAILTO in CRON, it will even give you a print out of what > transpired. You can just send output to /dev/null of course. > > Do make sure you have the latest version of 'portmanager' installed. It > was recently updated. You cannot update it using itself. You must use > the 'make install && make clean' method. If you are not familiar with > 'portsnap', just read the manual. Gotta check out portsnap. There's got to be some means of automating most of this. Some human intervention may always' be required (else: "Why am I here?" :). But hopefully a min. thanks, gary > > -- > Gerard > > If you are afraid of loneliness, don't marry. > > Anton Chekov -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 21:36:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FC916A407 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DA213C45D for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2CLZj9A085126; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:35:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070312162712.0254e098@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:35:30 -0500 To: "Alexander Schlichting" , From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> References: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Recover Make ARG's from a ports Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:36:23 -0000 If you look below the port directory, there is a work directory and in that a directory where the actual files are configured and Make files created named for the port and version. In that directory is a file called: config.log This file at the top has the actual configure line used. -Derek At 02:18 AM 3/12/2007, Alexander Schlichting wrote: > > >On a server I have a package installed using ports and now I have to install >the package with exactly the same make arguments on another server. I just >don't find a way to see what arguments where used to install it the first >time. With Linux I would look into config.status is there something similar >with FreeBSD? Sorry for having to ask but I am using FreeBSD for the first >days now after 5 years using Linux only :) > > > >-Alex > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:01:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BF416A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A468D13C458 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([24.126.17.68]) by mta16.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20070312215112.WFGC2765.mta16.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:51:12 -0400 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4E9ABB732; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:51:06 -0400 From: Parv To: Jonathan Horne Message-ID: <20070312215106.GA1362@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:01:23 -0000 in message <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com>, wrote Jonathan Horne thusly... > ... > so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the > minimal desktop. > > id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id > like to try some of the lesser known, but still just as functional > desktops. > > can i get some recommendations, as well as what graphical mail > reader and web browser works best with your recommendation? I have been using FVWM 2 (-devel version) for quite a while. Tvtwm is the "emergency" wm when/if fvwm upgrade goes berserk or has not been installed yet. The most interesting point is that windows are almost in the same place|state -- given same page layout -- whilst switching between the two. I think vtwm provides for more eye candy than tvtwm. I used Ion (pre-lua change) which did not disappoint; have not used current Ion version due to laziness about learning lua just to edit a configuration file. It seemed most helpful in managing gimp windows. Opera is the web browser I use (over Firefox) mainly due the ease of assiging|using key bindings similar to vi or mutt. Mutt (-devel version) is the mail reader in xterm (unless I am in hurry, then mutt works just fine on console too for fast reading). Some of my configuration files .. http://www103.pair.com/parv/comp/unix/cf/ http://www103.pair.com/parv/comp/unix/x/ - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:17:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B0216A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62214.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62214.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84CF513C44B for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 97899 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Mar 2007 22:17:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=EkqVN3vap9ZqOzRwBPRZfsL2J/vnwxlICZsMJSmhI3fRiEtQE6+6aaZfDoszswXHSQ77qZX31jy0vSHlKqsT1qnhwax16Wlp2sZHvSzi5nRh5O7I5G3Vw15C3pZqizNM0Hz4FevhDaDbFsQ1TSN7NHd7Ex5oiG8hs4fgr+tKjv8=; X-YMail-OSG: RDwOvCgVM1l0GLox2bVbkpt8a9xL6RsGYDhTIrSPpsfXljcuOZI4alfE8NbcgAGePIQidh2TS77QJEucSE3rfK6pXOVrdIO6omosFqmRxqpGD.ca3Fm0EMG44vdxCCk- Received: from [69.19.14.18] by web62214.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:17:19 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:17:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45F5C378.8030107@passagen.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <19023.82441.qm@web62214.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: How Do I Find Find? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:17:24 -0000 Well, I did that, then I decided to run a list of /usr/bin, and there was find, and now the find command works. Ah...computers! Thanks, Drew2 Roger Olofsson wrote: Hello Drew, As an alternative may I suggest using locate? You update the database by issuing /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb from shell. Then just locate what you want. Good luck! Drew Jenkins skrev: > I built a home server to prepare to build a new production server. Well, the latter is built out, but when I went back to the former, it said there was a problem with my last shutdown (which I don't remember) and went into single user mode. I went to run a "find" and it complained it couldn't find the "find" command! I thought, what the heck, no great loss, I'll just rebuild this machine. But after re-installing FBSD, it *still* can't find the "find" command! Now I'm worried! It wasn't in /usr/bin/ What happened to this installation?? > TIA, > Drew3 > > --------------------------------- > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:48:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541D916A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from ls405.t-com.hr (ls405.t-com.hr [195.29.150.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD51213C483 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from ls248.t-com.hr (ls248.t-com.hr [195.29.150.237]) by ls405.t-com.hr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D9A143FBF; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:21:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from ls248.t-com.hr (ls248.t-com.hr [127.0.0.1]) by ls248.t-com.hr (Qmlai) with ESMTP id 2FAB1D50047; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:21:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from ls248.t-com.hr (ls248.t-com.hr [127.0.0.1]) by ls248.t-com.hr (Qmlai) with ESMTP id 15B39D5004A; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:21:37 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-Sender-Info: g5URFa92gX9K/Rg9VFA/rDzSTceY1GBfpPksg/JnLOU6StkSH1j7CT0zJW9WjWDV X-Envelope-Sender: ivoras@fer.hr Received: from [10.0.0.100] (83-131-162-11.adsl.net.t-com.hr [83.131.162.11]) by ls248.t-com.hr (Qmali) with ESMTP id BA1FE5E010F; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:21:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F5D266.6080804@fer.hr> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:21:26 +0100 From: Ivan Voras User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <6faf55220703100845u62eab431y3a16ae0d8cb3bba7@mail.gmail.com> <55D533EB-26F9-40B7-838B-8BCB9D0A9463@tca-cable-connector.com> <20070310223906.E8914@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311194326.4da9e341@vixen42> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5B7544F14D03AFB43BCDD206" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howmany CPU Does FreeBSD Support ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:48:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5B7544F14D03AFB43BCDD206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 3/12/07, Ivan Voras wrote: >> Which happens to include all SCSI devices I've encountered... >> sigh. >> >> And it's NOT rare to see giant locked processes on a heavily loaded we= b >> server. >> >=20 > No Giants Here: > arcmsr0: > mem 0xc8400000-0xc8400fff,0xc8800000-0xc8bfffff irq 16 at device 14.0 I've never had an ARECA card :) ciss0: port 0x3400-0x34ff mem 0xc6fee000-0xc6feffff,0xc6f80000-0xc6fbffff irq 24 at device 5.0 on pci2 ciss0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ciss0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xfdf80000-0xfdffffff,0xfdf70000-0xfdf77fff irq 16 at device 8.0 on pci19= ciss0: [GIANT-LOCKED] (it's the same driver...) ahc0: port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xfea01000-0xfea01fff irq 29 at device 2.0 on pci1 ahc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] mpt0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xe8010000-0xe8013fff,0xe8000000-0xe800ffff irq 19 at device 4.0 on pci3 mpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] isp0: port 0x4100-0x41ff mem 0xe8014000-0xe8014fff irq 20 at device 5.0 on pci3 isp0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Hmm, LSILogic (amrd) seems not to require GIANT... --------------enig5B7544F14D03AFB43BCDD206 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF9dJsldnAQVacBcgRAm+AAJ9tVnVkksyabsQTAx/bkBkzFv2Y+QCg9sbn BxGFqprDSmqCcOQS9U2eTWQ= =G7WX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5B7544F14D03AFB43BCDD206-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 22:58:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883ED16A404 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahilliya@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FE713C469 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahilliya@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so1089589wrq for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:58:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EFtNgMi5d/kQjQt88hAueJOshIufGoQCzfgretDreIFhuA8wZmdaawFzy9i+hoNq4LafxEa5qRDEgps8ZeMc+u3PNdhytVnm6QjhLGxx04DggLLQggqjMHlVJ/XyUJ8Iq0o+A18mzNXHYuKiSelVt3uW2zXa0iv1yEFgFob+hoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VH9KIhc2Z0c8o81EKyYFR0JXqouPzIlTSSm4z2GySGJEPDLdyXHYe1wft4sfcagZbGyvcEX6Zbo29wnnFmABXuzftHnOlYUq9oF1GkaT73uMGnSmwvVagrLG3i5vQylvVgTXbyStEJ6bvxT4FwdPBH2Mem7bnTEPd00EYo7MKJI= Received: by 10.65.43.17 with SMTP id v17mr476771qbj.1173740285608; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.230.10 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:58:05 +0900 From: "Daniel Marsh" To: "Gerhard Schmidt" In-Reply-To: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:58:07 -0000 On 3/12/07, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a small problem. On my central server we run an openldap server > that > contains the userdata for some systems. An the server uses this ldap > server for authentication and nss. The problem is that when the server is > booting slapd takes a very long time to start up. I think it's trying to > get an answer from ldap for the user ldap. But user ldap is in /etc/passwd > and in /etc/groups > > My nsswitch.conf looks like this. > > group: files ldap > hosts: files dns > networks: files > passwd: files ldap > shells: files > > The system comes up but takes very long to do so (i think it's somekind of > timeout) > Mar 12 14:58:23 phobos slapd[584]: nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server > - Server is unavailable > > As I see it, nss asks all sources even if the frist one allready knows the > answer. Is there a way to change this. > I've run into this very same problem... but the way I got around it was putting OpenLDAP in a jail all by its lonesome and making sure that jail would start before anything on the host system would start that may need LDAP... (effectively meaning the LDAP server is a different "machine") From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:05:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102AD16A407 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon-bsd@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc15.comcast.net (sccrmhc15.comcast.net [63.240.77.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCF713C480 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon-bsd@comcast.net) Received: from [24.3.82.205] (c-24-3-82-205.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.82.205]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc15) with ESMTP id <20070312230537015006fbh2e>; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:05:37 +0000 Message-ID: <45F5DCB8.4070101@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:05:28 -0400 From: Jon Wolfgang User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Zwart References: <6660f1280703101251w1fac7df7xc1d0eb23b22dafc9@mail.gmail.com> <45F35767.7040905@comcast.net> <6660f1280703101821s4390d297ga416edb9d6a03fa4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6660f1280703101821s4390d297ga416edb9d6a03fa4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: searching archives broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:05:38 -0000 Ed Zwart wrote: > Jon, where are you searching from? The link I gave in my initial > question does not have the 'recent' limiter you mentioned. > > thanks > > e. > > On 3/10/07, Jon Wolfgang wrote: >> Ed Zwart wrote: >> > Hi there, I'm new to the list, and have been trying to search the >> > archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/. No >> > matter what I search for, I get no results (even one-word searches >> > that should definitely have hits; eg, 'mail', 'hostname', etc). >> > >> > I want to search the archives before asking the group, but the archive >> > is way too large to make browsing feasible. Is search broken, or am I >> > missing something? >> > >> > e. >> I have noticed this too. The "fix" I found is changing the search field >> from "all" to "recent". For example, if I search for "mount", and >> search all, nothing is displayed. However, searching for "mount" with >> recent selected, returns results. I think it has to do with how many >> results it finds. Hope this helps, >> Jon >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > I am searching from the page http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists I can't get to the page linked in your first message right now for some reason. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:07:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA49B16A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890C913C4BB for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1502193ana for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:07:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZuYHjFwlOYYvRCh86LPkHGmpCheDAoh1uZZmAtY6JlYptyHgiz7xRh6WDZhyPr4XPTVJdrnOtYFXZui1v6QgY4NLaelSPAAy5C0IwQOaobuGwCIYVgqgykvW9bnkbGosDnrJLKYh4b8Bt/GsKuXh29iyt9bmXF7mtvLfbi1LmKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ShmdTJVlLFB+W8CrGHxQ+ZLegCRVzX2rEUQsiR5ZHxmJJEaqFDMZy0wa+MdGbgu2+vDuqXND6Kf/8bKnZ+NVpQ5NUGLFFP/IqgDWWr3JrQD5n/aigaDWITXxEZPtgFwBGGDMT3gHklX2BAowNHu6sXmtgqSJkAxOV+0WRwFOI34= Received: by 10.100.144.11 with SMTP id r11mr252087and.1173740835734; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.111.5 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:07:15 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" To: "Gerhard Schmidt" In-Reply-To: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:07:16 -0000 On 3/12/07, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > Hi, Hello, > As I see it, nss asks all sources even if the frist one allready knows the > answer. Is there a way to change this. man nsswitch.conf(5) Look for Status codes and Actions > > Bye Bye > Estartu > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gerhard Schmidt | Nick : estartu IRC : Estartu | > Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key > 86856 Hiltenfingen | EMail: estartu@augusta.de | on request > Germany | | -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:09:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDEA16A401 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dominic@icsaccess.com) Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.109.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BB213C46C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dominic@icsaccess.com) Received: from computer (cpe-24-164-170-20.hvc.res.rr.com [24.164.170.20]) by ms-smtp-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l2CMH8id006467 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:17:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004101c764f4$2de4b6b0$14aaa418@computer> From: "Dominic Tampone" To: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:17:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD Version 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:09:07 -0000 The last Patch we can find for this Version is 2005. Are there subsequent Patches available to update and bring current? Thanks you Dominic Tampone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:28:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B05C16A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:28:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pablo.fernandez@rs.com.ar) Received: from mail.reliable.com.ar (mail.reliable.com.ar [200.55.63.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6BD13C45D for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pablo.fernandez@rs.com.ar) Received: (qmail 9503 invoked by uid 1007); 12 Mar 2007 20:28:29 -0300 Received: from customer123-183-91.iplannetworks.net (HELO plab.bsas.rs.com.ar) (pablo.fernandez@reliable.com.ar@200.123.183.91) by mail.reliable.com.ar with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 20:28:29 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jos=E9_Pablo_Fern=E1ndez?= Organization: RS To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:28:24 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703122028.25655.pablo.fernandez@rs.com.ar> Subject: PF questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:28:33 -0000 Hello, I have a couple of PF questions. First I am NATing a set of computers on th= e table, to allow them to go out I write ($lans is lans =3D "{" $la= n0 $lan1 "}" where $lan0 is re0 and $lan1 is $re1): pass in on $lans from to any flags S/SA keep state pass out on $lans from to any flags S/SA keep state or otherwise pass on $lans from to any flags S/SA keep state What puzzles me is why is the "pass out" rule needed. I never do a block ou= t all, only a block in all; basically I am never doing any block out and pr= actically never a pass out. The other exception is: pass out from $me4 flags S/SA keep state which is there mainly to keep state and flags. Here's the second thing that= puzzles me. Why don't I need a pass out from $me6 to reach IPv6 places. ($= me is the collection of IPv4 ips assigned to this host and $me6 the same fo= r IPv6). The other question is also regarding IPv6. To let hosts inside my network g= o out I needed to have this rule: pass out on $wan6 from to any flags S/SA keep state when I would have thought that since I am blocking everything in, and nothi= ng out, this one should have done the trick. pass in on $lans from to any flags S/SA keep state That is, who is letting those IPv6 packages in, and why do I need to let th= e out specifically? If you need context, my whole rules are below. Any answer and or hint is ap= preciated. =2D-=20 Jos=E9 Pablo Fern=E1ndez pablo.fernandez@example.org PS: IPs and names have changed. # My interfaces. lan0 =3D "re0" lan1 =3D "re1" wan =3D "fxp0" wan6 =3D "stf0" # My me, me and I. #me =3D "{(" $lan0 ") (" $lan1 ") (" $wan ") (" $wan6 ") }" me4 =3D "{" 192.168.0.102 192.168.1.102 210.223.83.1 127.0.0.1 "}" me6 =3D "{" 2002:87:15i:0::102 2002:87:15i:1::102 2002:87:15i::1 ::1 "}" # Globally accessable services. mi_tcp_services =3D "{domain ssh http xmpp-c2s xmpps-c2s xmpp-s2s}" mi_udp_services =3D "{domain ssh http xmpp-c2s xmpps-c2s xmpp-s2s}" # LAN-only accessable services. mi_internal_tcp_services =3D "{http-proxy}" mi_internal_udp_services =3D "{ntp}" # The network. lans =3D "{" $lan0 $lan1 "}" lans_network =3D "{" $lan0:network $lan1:network "}" # Hosts that are free to reach the outside world directly. table { black.example.org red.example.org blue.example.org brown.ex= ample.org green.example.org yellow.example.org 192.168.0.0/24 192.168.1.1/2= 4 } table { black.example.org red.example.org blue.example.org } # IPv6 reachable computers by service. table { red.example.org orange.example.org voip.example.org } table { red.example.org black.example.org } # Available for everybody from anywhere. tcp_for_everybody =3D "{smtp smtps pop3 pop3s imap imaps}" udp_for_everybody =3D "{smtp smtps pop3 pop3s imap imaps}" # Making a return of a no-go is better than droping a package because it hi= des the fact that there's a firewall. set block-policy return # No filteblue on lo0. set skip on lo # This will normalize and defragment all packages. Filteblue will work bett= er and extrange packets will be droped. scrub in # NAT. nat on $wan from to any -> ($wan) # Port forwarding. See below for the assosiatde passing rules. rdr on $wan proto tcp from any to any port 5901 -> brown.example.org port v= nc # Andres' VNC. Pupeno, 2007-02-12 14:50:02. # Temp port forwarding. # None so far. Pupeno, 2007-02-12 14:50:25. # Block everything in, latter allowing some stuff. A more paranoic setup wo= uld be to block everything, in and out. But that is much more complex. block in log # Block RFC1918 (private) from the external card, private addresses in the = public internet can't be good. PrivateAddresses =3D "{ 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.0/16, 172.16.0.0/12, 10.0.0.= 0/8 }" block in quick on {$wan, $wan6} from $PrivateAddresses to any block out quick on {$wan, $wan6} from any to $PrivateAddresses # When going out (which can be done anyway), keep state, so return packages= can come in. pass out from $me4 flags S/SA keep state # Let some people reach all the services. pass in on $lans from to any flags S/SA keep state pass out on $lans from to any flags S/SA keep state pass out on $wan6 from to any flags S/SA keep state # Possibly onl= y to keep the state. Pupeno, 2007-03-12 20:04:19. # Let all the people reach some services. pass in on $lans proto tcp to any port $tcp_for_everybody flags S/SA keep s= tate # in pass in on $lans proto udp to any port $udp_for_everybody keep state # in # Let some services be reachable by the world in some internal IPs. pass in on $wan6 proto icmp6 from any to keep state #= Allow anyone on the free6 chunk to be pinged. pass in on $wan6 proto tcp from any to port {ssh} flags S/SA k= eep state # Let forwarders pass and more importantly, be synproxied, whatever that is= =2E See above for the assosiated rdr (redirection) rules. pass in proto tcp from any to brown.example.org port vnc synproxy state # A= ndres' VNC. Pupeno, 2007-02-12 15:45:16. # Let anyone ping me. pass in proto icmp to $me4 = keep state pass in proto icmp6 to $me6 = keep state # Services that should be reached from anywhere (including the LAN). pass in proto tcp to $me4 port $mi_tcp_services= flags S/SA keep state pass in proto udp to $me4 port $mi_udp_services= keep state pass in proto tcp to $me6 port $mi_tcp_services= flags S/SA keep state pass in proto udp to $me6 port $mi_udp_services= keep state # Services that should be reached only from the LAN. pass in on $lans proto tcp from $lans_network to $me4 port $mi_internal_tcp= _services flags S/SA keep state pass in on $lans proto udp from $lans_network to $me4 port $mi_internal_udp= _services keep state pass in on $lans proto tcp from $lans_network to $me6 port $mi_internal_tcp= _services flags S/SA keep state pass in on $lans proto udp from $lans_network to $me6 port $mi_internal_udp= _services keep state # Particular services. pass in proto tcp from dir.backup.example.org to $me4 port bacula-dir flags= S/SA keep state # Allow comunication between the two networks. pass in on $lan0 from $lan0:network to $lan1:network flags S/SA keep state pass in on $lan1 from $lan1:network to $lan0:network flags S/SA keep state From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:36:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D510516A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F46313C465 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 96259 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 23:36:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=QoP/D8JZVAXUf0yu/9YOOhh9roDd9XhFvx/o5HYaw0c3YZEGOWD8ZywF826grWNWAciR3fWfdRDqPDsc4Mh1eH/SfT9isSaVYCup+5Cq1vLDYd+3dS27K0hSMcrcE0yOrAou1VW1RwSQp8+2iNCeI9Tkhy+gaYVHIjJMHl65n8Q= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 23:36:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: jz5ckScVM1m3v7g5fsk5e_me_AvYTgYWq.T5P9VK_DpgqXc8i4hly8c_Dn4cjvlENuxREzavCoFLUWYE5_hYHJc3YfNPgRfHmwMFjpEOYZFkVdH0sS4O8qxyRlIsahdrYCIkQn.UJgT9x26uED2GOk157g-- In-Reply-To: <20070312170530.65898c23@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> <20070312170530.65898c23@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9b8f6952375affce2f85577c9c2792b6@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jekillen Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:36:41 -0800 To: RW X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:36:46 -0000 On Mar 12, 2007, at 9:05 AM, RW wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:27:52 -0800 > jekillen wrote: > >> If you will allow me to break in on this exchange; >> Does this advise apply if you have static ip service > > The important thing is really your reverse DNS, if you have control of > it and looks like a real server name, e.g. mail.example.com, you can > stay off the dynamic lists. It doesn't help to have a static address if > your reverse dns looks like 12-43-545-example.net > Thank you for your reply; One of my machines (the one I use all the time and use to send and receive e-mai) does have an ISP assigned name. But the others are FQDN's that I have registered. One even has .net as the top level domain and that is one I am planning on using for the mail server. Thanks again Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:40:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D3016A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6BE813C459 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 86314 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 23:40:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=HM/6fQz//J/KQb0c7Jh84eiKDDXwpkGAmWfBuvmpo+A214cnGhKrRnq4Po2TEkAsCTjM8A91nelWiOXuTbrYBqmt3VMWCEXXYZrh/DwwbVIrOwNLd+o00l1yIoGX8wiMVgwORJ7vscQbB+DcUs6GYWXtFgu7VwAQSKKsNAMi1UQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 23:40:15 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: oUiXV7wVM1mbQWV8shT8ZgPvT58FNj0isQnp.3zbp.4hSXXsEhe3FnX7n.ezKra4DlbCpvWnEqIw1b9auNaLZYAxVY3pLdfn4JNn56e67yYHecZ3KI9njGGAtmZ4FSfQQ8utZ1JqTUF6EHg- In-Reply-To: <20070312090120.G26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> <6660f1280703112036y747c92a2w674ea46625830044@mail.gmail.com> <8685CC04-17C7-4A25-AD0A-565311EE3001@goldmark.org> <20070312090120.G26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <68cf31984412c852e2abefccb878b389@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jekillen Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:40:11 -0800 To: Wojciech Puchar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:40:17 -0000 On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:01 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> of SPF (Sender Policy Framewokr) would immediately identify it as a >> spoof, and will be blocked. >> >> To learn more about this system, see >> >> http://www.openspf.org/ > > if the same machine is for sending and receiving mail simply putting > > IN TXT "v=spf1 mx -all" > > is OK and enough Thanks for the info, I think I can use all the knowledgeable help I can get with this. I did set up my DNS servers successfully. But I have had more trouble trying to get Apache configured correctly. Mail servers look like a whole 'nother world to me but I still have a little hair left to tear. Jeffk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:41:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946C716A405 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBE013C43E for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2CNf2ou065985; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:41:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2CNf24r065984; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:41:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:41:02 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Dima Sorkin Message-ID: <20070312234101.GA65947@thought.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: choosing window manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:41:02 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 08:28:19PM +0200, Dima Sorkin wrote: > Hi. > 1) How do I start KDE / FVWM2/ GNOME / TWM / Windowmaker ? > ( I've choosed them during installation ) > > 2) Is there some nice "welcome" program, > that allows to choose a session kind ? > > Dima. > > On FreeBSD 6.2 i386, > >startx -- starts TWM > > root> gdm -- starts gnome desktop manager, > which allows to start only GNOME > (I was used that it allows to launch any WM, > but in this case - only GNOME). A few years ago I created a ctwm.desktop (somewhere, I forget where), and was able to use GNOME || CTWM with gdm. I cobbled together a kde.desktop and then was able to run KDE using gdm as well. So gdm can be flexible. gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:45:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64D616A402 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797F013C458 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so2119905nfc for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:45:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b2yyAzm/b058BvcygYTGBJo5WyCu8n2CIzy/+ncNRIQjGNvM2zDPvWs79LDdSZzl31etS+8CmS3FV/WC9gaK3164tBbA1u6ybMvVe6TYL3SWENEi4uBfw3AMmk/LAcIJIaZk1Pf4bwdQT5v+kdLfPARdInRrZDXOtoXfdcqzBl4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=THo4Ua5VMbsyAsxQJLuDt1356liu+8c5mxBdN6E5mRBTAxUpHqVSK/dJprGEMtoCsfni5EuS4OobZvKAn/QodAtZvbV/nVwggre3wXttG3ZwppU9XEykDTyjLb7gm9ZyPQUeaec+R2nmyLOxEmfpRTuE9Nl1Iu1KH+7MW+eXQEo= Received: by 10.82.154.2 with SMTP id b2mr360482bue.1173743118262; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.176.4 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:45:18 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070312141815.H64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45F44A5E.9050904@cyberwang.net> <45F478DE.1020702@computer.org> <20070311233953.C64103@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F4CEE5.7040005@computer.org> <20070312084742.Q26610@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45F54C91.4030309@computer.org> <14989d6e0703120605o4a67b370v3e252865dfb76aaa@mail.gmail.com> <20070312141815.H64603@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Christian Walther , Eric Schuele Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:45:22 -0000 On 12/03/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: . . . > PS. Because i don't get definition of desktop i used there and in other > posts: > > desktop is one complete full screen workspace. > > be it text or graphics doesn't matter. > > PS2. still waiting for precise desktop definition, because i think that > this term is regularly misused. It is easily as nephanous a concept as "Operating System" (which see: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3A%22operating+system%22 ) (noting carefully that at least one of those items is the canonical definition of a kernel) (And more to the point, that virtually any explicitly named item could be deleted, and probably has been in some operating system somewhere). A concise definition is not really possible for "desktop" since it is not a technical nor scientific term. Unless you wish to define it dogmatically, in which case: good luck. In the sense of common use, a desktop is not more than a presentation of user applications. http://www.gslis.utexas.edu/~vlibrary/glossary/#D -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:51:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C25D16A405 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B964D13C4AD for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal (svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal [10.0.0.3]) by bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2CNp4v9056415; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:51:04 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal2.bytecraft.internal with MailMarshal (v6, 1, 4, 441) id ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:51:03 +1100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:47:57 +1100 Message-ID: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F12DEC3A@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD on IDE Flash disk drive Thread-Index: Acdkwx/CCJ+E3/sFSCu/9Yw4Ajs5uAAPX83g From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Steve Franks" , =?iso-8859-2?Q?Nejc_=A9koberne?= Cc: User Questions Subject: RE: FreeBSD on IDE Flash disk drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:51:08 -0000 Akk hate top posting but following the mode of this email http://www.ultradesic.com/index.php?section=3D125 This is the site for making a mini flash disk-able version of FreeBSD 6.x mjt =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Steve Franks > Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 3:24 AM > To: Nejc =A9koberne > Cc: User Questions > Subject: Re: FreeBSD on IDE Flash disk drive >=20 > My bad. Says right on the m0n0wall homepage that it is based on > FreeBSD, not Linux....yea for us! >=20 > Steve >=20 > On 3/9/07, Nejc =A9koberne wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I plan to install a FreeBSD 6.2 router/gateway/DHCP server on a EPIA > > box with 1GB Transcend IDE Flash drive. Since Transcend says that > > this device is capable of "10,000 insertion/removal cycles" I assume > > that I must minimize the number of writes to the drive. It is okay > > with me if I have to configure syslog to log to another machine. > > > > Any suggestions/instructions how to achieve this? Any experienced > > users regarding this matter? > > > > Thanks for ideas and help. > > Nejc > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Steve Franks, KE7BTE > Staff Engineer > La Palma Devices, LLC > http://www.lapalmadevices.com > (520) 312-0089 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --------------------------------------------------------------- ### This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses by Bytecraft ### From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:52:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772F316A403 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6039513C4B7 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay5.apple.com (a17-128-113-35.apple.com [17.128.113.35]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2CNq4Fc020248; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay5.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay5.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 210B529C004; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:52:04 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807123-9d11bbb000004462-8d-45f5e7a46431 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay5.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 079E630400B; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:52:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <004101c764f4$2de4b6b0$14aaa418@computer> References: <004101c764f4$2de4b6b0$14aaa418@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <34E4630C-6B1D-4943-A455-7E3874B26199@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:52:03 -0700 To: Dominic Tampone X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Version 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:52:04 -0000 On Mar 12, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Dominic Tampone wrote: > The last Patch we can find for this Version is 2005. > > Are there subsequent Patches available to update and bring current? Security updates to FreeBSD 5.3 were published through the end of 2006, something along the lines of "5.3-RELEASE-p37", but I don't expect that patches are going to continue to be produced for 5.3 in 2007. (I may be wrong; perhaps you should ask the security team for the real scoop. :-) Update to FreeBSD 5.5, or possibly 6.2.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 12 23:55:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6268616A400 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3185F13C448 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 36033 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2007 23:55:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=WCc0UObEDpKRGD0hBDYuL04GyG2r8+c1vbRgyLi/DEV8qdGMa5CvfbWpzYF2lRJcDlk6Vjjuo57r3ddqC77Z9aM/jYZJrQkKD6HqORBDNAR/OlL40n+DB29ujLYwBJ3HC6CGSmRCGjWcB2hwazo0SH83bJcN8vtto5Ucvbu830A= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2007 23:55:39 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: PASzD6IVM1l0xbl2iswBFBAtZEgMhDUZ1ZDUhbnpq52gNsZBf.9Kqbi6PXjx0TAwr4B_2pNaxJXYfvr6azCAh0IYcp7lKs4u1T3B__I8fsqxhIqTIGZ4FhPEUg4KcugPi6jPwQgfRaXPylo- In-Reply-To: References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8145495a448d24e04a962bd7a3a43084@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jekillen Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:55:32 -0800 To: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:55:40 -0000 On Mar 11, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:27 PM, jekillen wrote: > >> If you will allow me to break in on this exchange; >> Does this advise [don't run your own direct to MX mail server] apply >> if you have static ip service and are running web servers from these >> addresses, with the ISP's blessing? (meaning you also have at least >> two name servers running for the registered sites) Wow, thanks, most or what you mention in the way of pluses and negatives I am either aware of or have had some experience with, E.G. I had someone attacking a machine I have one of my sites on and the secondary DNS server. The site has .net as the top level domain and I supposed that the attack was because some one assumed I was using it to run a mail server. Anyhow I was getting requests for "-" "-" so often that it was causing Apache to run out of memory and kill processes. I caught it in process and shut down and rebooted the machine. But to tell you the truth, I am not sure if that was causing Apache to run out of memory, it is just guilt by association. Since all this machine really does is serve as my secondary DNS server I shut down Apache, not really needing to have the site up at this time. I am itching to get mail service running as it will perform some important functions for my sites. But I have some serious learning to do. Every bit of knowledgeable input helps and this is a serious tutorial. Thanks again. Jeff K. > > First let's separate questions. One is dealing with your own incoming > mail. The other is with sending mail out direct to MX. These two can > (and often should) be separated. > > For the question of hosting your own MX there are positives and > negatives. Here is a list off of the top of my head. It is far from > complete. > > Positive: > > (1) You get to fully control your rejection/acceptance policy from the > beginning. > > (2) You get the learn about running such a system. > > (3) You dramatically reduce your lock-in with an ISP (who can change > their > email policy or practice at any time. > > (4) You don't have to pay for some outside service (I use > fastmail.fm) for > hosting your incoming mail if you want something better than the > "free" > email service your ISP provides. > > Negatives: > > (a) You have to maintain what is really a surprisingly complex system > for such a simple protocol. > > (b) You have to defend your system against attacks it otherwise > wouldn't > receive, including DoS attacks. > > (c) Damage of being overwhelmed (either by deliberate attack or spam > blowback) > may be harder to contain. > > (d) Your system needs to fail appropriately. For example, if you use > something like LDAP to maintain username or email address > information, you > need to make sure that if your LDAP service fails your mail > server fails > in an appropriate way (say a complete shutdown) or issuing > temporary (4xx) > rejections instead of in an inappropriately issuing 5xx for mail > that > would be accepted normally. > > If (1) (or (2)) is really important to you, then go ahead. But > probably the best way to see whether (1) really matters is to ask > yourself what things you would like to do that you couldn't do unless > you ran your own MX. For example, if you have strong feelings about > whether DNSbls should be used prior to content filtering or as part of > it. Or whether you want spam and virus rejections to occur at SMTP > time or later. Whether you want SPF failures to generate immediate > rejections. Whether you want to make use of sophisticated IMAP > features that ISPs can't provide. If you don't have strong feelings > about these sorts of questions, then I doubt that (1) applies to you. > > Now there is the second question about doing direct to MX for mail > sending instead of going through your ISP or some third party service. > > Positives > > (i) You control queing and retry rates. > > (ii) For bulk mailing (mailing lists) there is an advantage of how > out-going > STMP session are organized. > > (iii) You are not as dependent on your ISP or a third party for > getting your > mail out, if they are slow or unreliable with mail > > (iv) If your ISP's mail server provide crappy bounce information and > you > need better information. > > (v) If your ISP adds junk to your mail or sends out mail in > unfriendly so as > to get itself on blacklists or leads to other forms of needless > rejections. > > (vi) You get to learn about running such systems > > Negatives: > > (A) Even with a static IP address, your assigned address may look > dynamic > to other servers who may then reject mail coming directly from > you. > > (B) Your ISP blocks/disallows this sort of thing (not a problem in > your case) > > (C) The reverse DNS records for your IP need to correspond > reasonably well > to your domain name, otherwise lots of servers will reject mail > from you. > > (D) You need to follow the RFCs and conventions strictly so that you > don't > get yourself added to blacklists > > (E) It is probably a little less network efficient for you to talk > directly > to servers all over the planet when you could just talk to your > ISPs > server which will be much closer to you. > > Here again, if (vi) is your primary reason for wanting to run your own > direct to MX system, then use it just for one of your minor domains. > That way, if you mess up, you won't get your major domains > blacklisted. If (i) and (ii) really matter for you, then go ahead, > but I think that you should have a real reason beyond "I can, > therefore I ought" if it is going to be your primary way > of getting mail out. > > In the end it is a matter of individual taste and need. With good DSL > or FiOS lines, along with a proper backup regime and Uninterruptible > Power Supply hosting your own website makes plenty of sense. But mail > is a tricker thing to maintain than apache, so my view remains that > unless you have some specific need for the kind of control you can get > by running your own, let someone else handle your mail transport to > the rest of the world. > > I hope this helps. And keep in mind that different people will offer > different advise. I certainly believe my advise is good advise > (otherwise I wouldn't have offered it), but I'm also aware that I > could well be wrong. > > Cheers, > > -j > > -- > Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 00:05:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FA616A406 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A32B13C4AD for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2D05gJQ066182; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:05:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2D05gRI066181; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:05:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:05:42 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20070313000541.GB65947@thought.org> References: <20070312194100.GA17033@thought.org> <20070312160500.173fe5cf@localhost> <20070312213432.GC76034@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070312213432.GC76034@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: On /etc/portsnap.conf (was: Re: what "port*" string can I crontab that will *work*) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:05:42 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 01:34:32PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 04:05:00PM -0400, Gerard Seibert wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:41:00 -0800 > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > Anybody have an automatic (/etc/crontab) method of keeping > > > ports current? I'm almost done upgrading my 5 systems to > > > 6.2 (to be able to grab valid packages) and tried portupgrade > > > with several variants of flags/switches. portuprade with > > > -rpfP wound up recycling my packages most of the time. [?] > > > I've starting to think that there may be no way of doing this > > > automatically. portmanager -b -u -l may be better:: dunno. > > > > > > thanks for some insights here, > > > > Actually, I use something like that. I created a script that runs both > > portsnap and portmanager. > > > > > > #!/bin/sh > > /usr/sbin/portsnap cron update > > /usr/local/bin/portmanager -u -l -p > > > > I call this script from CRON once a week. It seems to work quite well. > > If you have a MAILTO in CRON, it will even give you a print out of what > > transpired. You can just send output to /dev/null of course. > > > > Do make sure you have the latest version of 'portmanager' installed. It > > was recently updated. You cannot update it using itself. You must use > > the 'make install && make clean' method. If you are not familiar with > > 'portsnap', just read the manual. > > Gotta check out portsnap. There's got to be some means of > automating most of this. Some human intervention may always' > be required (else: "Why am I here?" :). But hopefully a min. > Hmmm. Well, I've replied to several of my own posts, but haven't felt this clumy in a long time. portsnap will replace my cvsup'ing ports after umpteen years. It may only be with the 6.2 portsnap, bit it would gripe without /etc/portsnap.conf. My fumble was in typing /etc/portsnap (sic) and wondering WTF was going on. After an hour+ I cd'd to /etc and saw the problem. Looks like with the default version built from /usr/src/usr.sbin/portsnap, you must have the config file with ^SERVERNAME=ftpN.freebsd.org and ^KEYPRINT="random, 64-chars output by sha256". I still hunt and peck; usally not this careless. Hope this helps a few people. gary > thanks, > > gary > > > > > > -- > > Gerard > > > > If you are afraid of loneliness, don't marry. > > > > Anton Chekov > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 00:12:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C81B16A408 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1A013C46A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E0551947 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:11:55 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070313001155.157d2a89@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20070312234101.GA65947@thought.org> References: <20070312234101.GA65947@thought.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: choosing window manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:12:00 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:41:02 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > > A few years ago I created a ctwm.desktop (somewhere, I forget > where), and was able to use GNOME || CTWM with gdm. I cobbled > together a kde.desktop and then was able to run KDE using gdm > as well. So gdm can be flexible. OTOH KDM "just works" without any configuration at all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 00:15:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F71C16A407 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AB213C480 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:15:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([24.126.17.68]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20070313001522.UFUA2272.mta10.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:15:22 +0000 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EEF3FB732; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:15:20 -0400 From: Parv To: Alexander Schlichting Message-ID: <20070313001520.GA7158@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Alexander Schlichting , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recover Make ARG's from a ports Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:15:25 -0000 in message <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net>, wrote Alexander Schlichting thusly... > > On a server I have a package installed using ports and now I have > to install the package with exactly the same make arguments on > another server. I just don't find a way to see what arguments > where used to install it the first time. With Linux I would look > into config.status is there something similar with FreeBSD? There may be config.status present in $WRKSRC directory (in a port directory, run "make -V WRKSRC" to find the value) if that port's make process generates such a file AND you have not run "make clean" yet. (That also means you have to compile the port yourself.) To save make arguments for future use, you could write a wrapper which would save the arguments in a file|database before running appropriate make target. Use the same wrapper to retrieve the stored arguments. Below is my attempt at such a wrapper (feel free to change) ... http://www103.pair.com/parv/comp/src/sh/pmk ... to see available commands just run "pmk" without any arguments. Provide arguments to a make target as ... pmk [ arg_1 arg_2 arg_3 ... ] - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 00:20:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572F616A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F366013C4CC for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2D0KR7g083017; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:20:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2D0KRiI083016; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:20:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:20:27 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: RW Message-ID: <20070313002027.GA82982@thought.org> References: <20070312234101.GA65947@thought.org> <20070313001155.157d2a89@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070313001155.157d2a89@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: choosing window manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:20:27 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:11:55AM +0000, RW wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:41:02 -0800 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > A few years ago I created a ctwm.desktop (somewhere, I forget > > where), and was able to use GNOME || CTWM with gdm. I cobbled > > together a kde.desktop and then was able to run KDE using gdm > > as well. So gdm can be flexible. > > OTOH KDM "just works" without any configuration at all. Usually. It broke a couple weeks ago when I tried using it on the backup DNS server I'm building. Prior to that, yes, CTWM and GNOME were in the menu. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 00:38:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCE516A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E48513C45B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2D0YqG5053652; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:34:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2D0Yq2G053651; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:34:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:34:52 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Drew Jenkins Message-ID: <20070313003452.GA53612@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <825484.90051.qm@web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <825484.90051.qm@web62212.mail.re1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How Do I Find Find? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:38:04 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 10:52:28AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > I built a home server to prepare to build a new production server. Well, the latter is built out, but when I went back to the former, it said there was a problem with my last shutdown (which I don't remember) and went into single user mode. I went to run a "find" and it complained it couldn't find the "find" command! I thought, what the heck, no great loss, I'll just rebuild this machine. But after re-installing FBSD, it *still* can't find the "find" command! Now I'm worried! It wasn't in /usr/bin/ What happened to this installation?? That is because the file systems are not mounted in single user by default. You need to do it by hand. Here is a good sequence to use if you boot to single user. fsck -p does a preen on file systems mount -u / Gets root remounted to read/write mount -a mounts everything else normally mounted swapon -a starts using swap Then you should be able to do any local thing (no network is up yet). A couple of things might prevent this from going well if some thing got smutched or if some part of the system is failing - rare but happens. It is possible the fsck might fail and you have to repeat it a couple of times to get it to complete. Do it and say 'y' to anything it wants to do. If a file system is failing, you might no be able to mount it. Hopefully it won't be / or /usr or it will be hard to recover. ////jerry > TIA, > Drew3 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 01:15:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB4616A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5481B13C45D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28987519A8 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:14:58 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070313011458.0f3534fd@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <9b8f6952375affce2f85577c9c2792b6@prodigy.net> References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> <20070312170530.65898c23@gumby.homeunix.com> <9b8f6952375affce2f85577c9c2792b6@prodigy.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:15:02 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:36:41 -0800 jekillen wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2007, at 9:05 AM, RW wrote: > > > The important thing is really your reverse DNS, if you have control > > of it and looks like a real server name, e.g. mail.example.com, > > you can stay off the dynamic lists. It doesn't help to have a > > static address if your reverse dns looks like 12-43-545-example.net > > > > Thank you for your reply; > One of my machines (the one I use all the time and use to send and > receive > e-mai) does have an ISP assigned name. But the others are FQDN's that > I have registered. One even has .net as the top level domain and that > is one I am planning on using for the mail server. > Just as long as you understand the distinction between forward and reverse DNS. Based on the whois record for for your IP address, at the moment you appear to have the following reverse DNS for the address range 75.7.236.224 - 75.7.236.231: $ for i in `jot 8 224` ; do dig +short -x 75.7.236.$i ; done adsl-75-7-236-224.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. adsl-75-7-236-225.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. adsl-75-7-236-226.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. adsl-75-7-236-227.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. adsl-75-7-236-228.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. adsl-75-7-236-229.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. adsl-75-7-236-230.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. adsl-75-7-236-231.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 01:28:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6446216A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4104813C44C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F1C51947 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:28:25 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070313012825.226cefcc@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <765930.99936.qm@web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <20070311214721.O52046@chylonia.3miasto.net> <765930.99936.qm@web62309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Manual updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:28:29 -0000 On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Paulette McGee wrote: > 1) Update ports > 1a) CVS > 2b) portsnap > 2) Build INDEX (depends on the tool; identify tools). > Also what are the pro's and con's of obtaining the > index from the methods listed below. > 2a) "make index" > 2b) "make fetchindex" > 2c) portsdb -Uu portsnap automatically updates INDEX. And no build tool, other than portupgrade, needs it. > 3) Use Tool 'X' to update / upgrade your ports From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 01:44:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7756B16A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmatulis@sympatico.ca) Received: from bay0-omc3-s12.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s12.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D3B13C45E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmatulis@sympatico.ca) Received: from bayc1-pasmtp01.bayc1.hotmail.com ([65.54.191.161]) by bay0-omc3-s12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:42:31 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [70.53.153.205] X-Originating-Email: [pmatulis@sympatico.ca] Received: from tantra ([70.53.153.205]) by bayc1-pasmtp01.bayc1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:42:30 -0700 From: Peter To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:43:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703122143.27782.pmatulis@sympatico.ca> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2007 01:42:30.0818 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD309820:01C76510] Subject: DST issue (still one hour behind) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:44:22 -0000 I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup. My time is still one hour behind. What else do I need to do? Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 02:00:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69A016A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495D713C45D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1547913ana for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:00:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=O72prl0uT3CCR53PiVryI6qCm6Gk9ZoY0OShbP9Qeru0dqGPax2qgeEkkuwihGtO3P3OhCYb9EsQ0v/hbEAVVaWtZgqr/HoL9liQ8B92PSRgMxrEQq5UW8XnGLv6SbspUCzkPwpvErOwwH2D00u4MAtPY1RdLQYYzXs4+GYc/EI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jl+LL6oydzxddcpafUSk34EXwv5UuaLUHGGYlw+s7P+Ttx1S1UIgtLb1OJIVqYrYL7SF1fen64iiKcTG7m5f7Q9JdieJYuJXFafXuuWRKQ/2Q255bzdL41rCm2wyFa9PZeGbvoUXsZPBTmQnjoKpVdYGr2Ib8aNb04GnEPCt2Pk= Received: by 10.100.190.8 with SMTP id n8mr337387anf.1173751245813; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.109.12 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:00:45 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Ivan Voras" In-Reply-To: <45F5D266.6080804@fer.hr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6faf55220703100845u62eab431y3a16ae0d8cb3bba7@mail.gmail.com> <55D533EB-26F9-40B7-838B-8BCB9D0A9463@tca-cable-connector.com> <20070310223906.E8914@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070311194326.4da9e341@vixen42> <45F5D266.6080804@fer.hr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howmany CPU Does FreeBSD Support ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:00:48 -0000 On 3/12/07, Ivan Voras wrote: > Nikolas Britton wrote: > > On 3/12/07, Ivan Voras wrote: > > >> Which happens to include all SCSI devices I've encountered... > >> sigh. > >> > >> And it's NOT rare to see giant locked processes on a heavily loaded web > >> server. > >> > > > > No Giants Here: > > arcmsr0: >> mem 0xc8400000-0xc8400fff,0xc8800000-0xc8bfffff irq 16 at device 14.0 > > I've never had an ARECA card :) > They use Intel's XScale I/O Processors and they can do RAID6, with RAID6 you can have two simultaneous drive failures an still be ok. Very good / fast / expensive cards... a fully decked out ARC-1280ML will set you back 2 grand, worth every penny. http://www.intel.com/design/iio/index.htm US Distributor for Areca products: http://www.topmicrousa.com/areca-raid-cards.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 02:16:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0C716A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7878A13C469 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) Received: from max.local (jn@c-76-23-109-98.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [76.23.109.98]) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l2D1qVXl072540; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:52:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:52:38 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200703122143.27782.pmatulis@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <200703122143.27782.pmatulis@sympatico.ca> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703122152.38913.john@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Peter Subject: Re: DST issue (still one hour behind) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:16:16 -0000 On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote: > I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup. My time is still one > hour behind. What else do I need to do? If you run "date" with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's e.g. EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the time manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after the time change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe play with adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 02:23:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFD916A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmatulis@sympatico.ca) Received: from bay0-omc1-s38.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s38.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4A013C44B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmatulis@sympatico.ca) Received: from bayc1-pasmtp05.bayc1.hotmail.com ([65.54.191.165]) by bay0-omc1-s38.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:23:37 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [70.53.153.205] X-Originating-Email: [pmatulis@sympatico.ca] Received: from tantra ([70.53.153.205]) by bayc1-pasmtp05.bayc1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:23:36 -0700 From: Peter To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:24:34 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200703122143.27782.pmatulis@sympatico.ca> <200703122152.38913.john@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <200703122152.38913.john@jnielsen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703122224.34766.pmatulis@sympatico.ca> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2007 02:23:36.0863 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B1132F0:01C76516] Cc: John Nielsen Subject: Re: DST issue (still one hour behind) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:23:37 -0000 Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 21:52, John Nielsen a =E9crit=A0: > On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote: > > I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup. My time is still one > > hour behind. What else do I need to do? > > If you run "date" with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's e.= g. > EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the time > manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after the time > change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe play with > adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it. I did reboot after using tzsetup. Anyway... $ date Mon Mar 12 21:22:22 EDT 2007 Change time manually you say? Pedro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 02:36:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6E416A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BC813C45B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from max.local (jn@c-76-23-109-98.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [76.23.109.98]) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l2D2aWXl090763; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:36:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:36:39 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200703122143.27782.pmatulis@sympatico.ca> <200703122152.38913.john@jnielsen.net> <200703122224.34766.pmatulis@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <200703122224.34766.pmatulis@sympatico.ca> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?iso-8859-1?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703122236.40029.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Peter Subject: Re: DST issue (still one hour behind) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:36:32 -0000 On Monday 12 March 2007 22:24, Peter wrote: > Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 21:52, John Nielsen a =E9crit=A0: > > On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote: > > > I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup. My time is still > > > one hour behind. What else do I need to do? > > > > If you run "date" with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's > > e.g. EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the > > time manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after > > the time change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe play > > with adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it. > > I did reboot after using tzsetup. Anyway... > > $ date > Mon Mar 12 21:22:22 EDT 2007 > > Change time manually you say? Yep! Since you probably had an out-of-date /etc/localtime at the time of th= e=20 (new) change your system didn't know to change the clock automatically. Going forward you shouldn't need to worry about it (unless lawmakers decide= =20 to save even more energy in the future...). JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 02:39:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83C016A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9926813C44C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from fl-76-3-168-71.dhcp.embarqhsd.net ([76.3.168.71] helo=kt.weeeble.com) by pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1HQwv2-0005KP-00; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:39:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:39:20 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: Parv Message-Id: <20070312223920.1a7a4629.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <20070313001520.GA7158@holestein.holy.cow> References: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> <20070313001520.GA7158@holestein.holy.cow> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Alexander Schlichting Subject: Re: Recover Make ARG's from a ports Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 02:39:24 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:15:20 -0400 Parv wrote: > in message <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net>, > wrote Alexander Schlichting thusly... > > > > On a server I have a package installed using ports and now I have > > to install the package with exactly the same make arguments on > > another server. I just don't find a way to see what arguments > > where used to install it the first time. With Linux I would look > > into config.status is there something similar with FreeBSD? > > There may be config.status present in $WRKSRC directory (in a port > directory, run "make -V WRKSRC" to find the value) if that port's > make process generates such a file AND you have not run "make clean" > yet. (That also means you have to compile the port yourself.) > > To save make arguments for future use, you could write a wrapper > which would save the arguments in a file|database before running > appropriate make target. Use the same wrapper to retrieve the > stored arguments. > > Below is my attempt at such a wrapper (feel free to change) ... > > http://www103.pair.com/parv/comp/src/sh/pmk > > > ... to see available commands just run "pmk" without any arguments. > Provide arguments to a make target as ... > > pmk [ arg_1 arg_2 arg_3 ... ] There is already a mechanism in place for this: /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf See man 5 pkgtools.conf for a full description. It has the advantage that portupgrade will use the contents of that file when updating to new versions so that your settings are not lost. Make arguments as well as a variety of other options for installing and updating ports can reside there. Typically, I use this if there are no OPTIONS (ie, "make config") settings available and I need to use non-default options. The only difference is that you would use "portupgrade -N ..." or portinstall to install new ports rather than "make install". See the man pages for further information. HTH, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 03:08:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386D316A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C4413C458 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([24.126.17.68]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20070313030853.ECVG2272.mta10.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:08:53 +0000 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BB006B732; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:08:51 -0400 From: Parv To: Randy Pratt Message-ID: <20070313030851.GA10126@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Randy Pratt , Alexander Schlichting , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> <20070313001520.GA7158@holestein.holy.cow> <20070312223920.1a7a4629.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070312223920.1a7a4629.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Alexander Schlichting Subject: Re: Recover Make ARG's from a ports Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:08:59 -0000 in message <20070312223920.1a7a4629.bsd-unix@earthlink.net>, wrote Randy Pratt thusly... > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:15:20 -0400 > Parv wrote: > > > in message <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net>, > > wrote Alexander Schlichting thusly... > > > > > > On a server I have a package installed using ports and now I > > > have to install the package with exactly the same make > > > arguments on another server. I just don't find a way to see > > > what arguments where used to install it the first time. With > > > Linux I would look into config.status is there something > > > similar with FreeBSD? > > > > There may be config.status present in $WRKSRC directory (in a > > port directory, run "make -V WRKSRC" to find the value) if that > > port's make process generates such a file AND you have not run > > "make clean" yet. (That also means you have to compile the port > > yourself.) > > > > To save make arguments for future use, you could write a wrapper > > which would save the arguments in a file|database before running > > appropriate make target. Use the same wrapper to retrieve the > > stored arguments. (removed self promotion) > /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf > > See man 5 pkgtools.conf for a full description. I am personally aware of that but do not use it. Besides using /etc/make.conf & OPTIONS, I am just fine with specifying options on the command line mostly because this is the most flexible way of experimenting with options. > It has the advantage that portupgrade will use the contents of > that file when updating to new versions so that your settings are > not lost. > > Make arguments as well as a variety of other options for > installing and updating ports can reside there. That is similar as specifying in /etc/make.conf as listed by someone else (with the added benefit of not having to install anything outside of base system). In any case, neither of /etc/make.conf or portupgrade provide the facility to store the arguments given on command line if one happen to do that instead of updating either of the two files. Note that the command line recording that I am trying to describe is not a substitute[0] to but complementary to various port|package tools (if they are happened to be installed). - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 03:20:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DCB16A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmatulis@sympatico.ca) Received: from bay0-omc3-s9.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s9.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729E213C46E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmatulis@sympatico.ca) Received: from bayc1-pasmtp03.bayc1.hotmail.com ([65.54.191.163]) by bay0-omc3-s9.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:20:27 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [70.53.153.205] X-Originating-Email: [pmatulis@sympatico.ca] Received: from tantra ([70.53.153.205]) by bayc1-pasmtp03.bayc1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:20:26 -0700 From: Peter To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:21:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200703122143.27782.pmatulis@sympatico.ca> <200703122224.34766.pmatulis@sympatico.ca> <200703122236.40029.lists@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <200703122236.40029.lists@jnielsen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703122321.25092.pmatulis@sympatico.ca> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2007 03:20:27.0105 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BBAD510:01C7651E] Cc: John Nielsen Subject: Re: DST issue (still one hour behind) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:20:27 -0000 Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 22:36, John Nielsen a =E9crit=A0: > On Monday 12 March 2007 22:24, Peter wrote: > > Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 21:52, John Nielsen a =E9crit=A0: > > > On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote: > > > > I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup. My time is still > > > > one hour behind. What else do I need to do? > > > > > > If you run "date" with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's > > > e.g. EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the > > > time manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after > > > the time change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe pl= ay > > > with adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it. > > > > I did reboot after using tzsetup. Anyway... > > > > $ date > > Mon Mar 12 21:22:22 EDT 2007 > > > > Change time manually you say? > > Yep! Since you probably had an out-of-date /etc/localtime at the time of > the (new) change your system didn't know to change the clock automaticall= y. > > Going forward you shouldn't need to worry about it (unless lawmakers deci= de > to save even more energy in the future...). Ok. Done. Thanks for your support. Pedro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 03:29:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528B816A410 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4D013C45D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:29:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl) Received: from webmail.xs4all.nl (dovemail4.xs4all.nl [194.109.26.6]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2D3T68I015807; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:29:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl) Received: from 82.93.23.199 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tournoij) by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:29:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <9948.82.93.23.199.1173756547.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F5C0B0.3030406@planet.nl> References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> <45F5BAEF.5050506@netscape.net> <45F5C0B0.3030406@planet.nl> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:29:07 +0100 (CET) From: "Martin Tournoij" To: hxc@planet.nl User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:29:08 -0000 On Mon, March 12, 2007 22:05, hxc@planet.nl wrote: > OK. The line "hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled" looks very odd, so >> I had to ask. If you have also modified your xorg.conf according to the >> docs (or used nvidia-xconfig), this is baffling. Sorry I am unable to >> help. >> >> >>> P.S. >>> I also have ran ppracer. Results: >>> >>> *FreeBSD* >>> *110 fps* >>> >>> *Gentoo Linux* >>> *240 fps* >>> >> >> I did not get more than 35 fps, in 800x600 resolution... >> > Lol! I am a spoiled gamer used to run the latest games on the highest > setting (i.e. Armed Assault :-P ). I have used nvidia-xconfig and also > configured xorg.conf manually. Do you agree with my assessment that 3d > acceleration isn't working? Thanks for trying to help! Armed Assault..? Are you trying to run armed assault in wine? if so, then remember that wine support for FreeBSD is horrible at best... Anyway, I set hint.agp.0.disabled="1" and now hw.nvidia.agp.status.status is set to "enabled" (it was disabled before) glxgears results are the same, ~2300 FPS. In my experience, games on FreeBSD are always slow, my hardware isn't very fast (900MHz, 384MB RAM,Geforce FX5200) but on windows 2000 I'm able to play even fairly recent games (Such as the punisher, civ4). On FreeBSD, anything with more graphics than rogue will be anything from slow to unplayable, even though FreeBSD outperforms windows in almost every other way... Conclusion: Use windows for games, FreeBSD for serious stuff ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 03:34:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F017316A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9460913C468 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 4323 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2007 03:34:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.192?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.68 with plain) by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 03:34:51 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: pHEkvqkVM1m5RMkqNcn97Q8nEfdc_n93SfGewc1tBBMSfZwR7KXeinRHPyFe7GCU4Q-- Message-ID: <45F61BE0.8060502@hier7.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:34:56 -0400 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> <45F5BAEF.5050506@netscape.net> <45F5C0B0.3030406@planet.nl> <9948.82.93.23.199.1173756547.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <9948.82.93.23.199.1173756547.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:34:56 -0000 Martin Tournoij wrote: > Conclusion: > Use windows for games, FreeBSD for serious stuff ... Good assessment :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 03:58:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E1416A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com (smarty.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1330013C44B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from slaughter.dreamhost.com (www.balanced1.webmail.dreamhost.com [66.33.201.161]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C15EE290 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.cyberwang.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slaughter.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEC85B5B3 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 68.184.120.224 (SquirrelMail authenticated user sean@cyberwang.net) by webmail.cyberwang.net with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39547.68.184.120.224.1173758324.squirrel@webmail.cyberwang.net> In-Reply-To: <45F61BE0.8060502@hier7.com> References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> <45F5BAEF.5050506@netscape.net> <45F5C0B0.3030406@planet.nl> <9948.82.93.23.199.1173756547.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <45F61BE0.8060502@hier7.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:58:44 -0700 (PDT) From: sean@cyberwang.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:58:45 -0000 I'm actually having the same problem, but after I took out device agp out of my kernel. And I still cannot start x with nvidia driver. It complains that /dev/nvidiactl couldn't be opened. And then it says it failed to load the kernel module. Any idea. sysctl -a | grep nvidia hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 1.0-9746 Tue Dec 19 13:20:59 PST 2006 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.DevicesConnected: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.RmLogonRC: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.DetectPrimaryVga: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.dwords: So the driver is loaded but nothing is working. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 04:12:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD4716A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.cecil@nokia.com) Received: from mgw-ext11.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [131.228.20.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1224B13C455 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.cecil@nokia.com) Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-ext11.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l2D3r7Bu006089 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:53:21 +0200 Received: from siebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.30.195.27]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:52:24 +0200 Received: from syebe101.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.30.128.65]) by siebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:52:20 +0800 Received: from [172.30.10.60] ([172.30.10.60]) by syebe101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:52:18 +1100 Message-ID: <45F61FEE.1030800@nokia.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:52:14 +1000 From: David Cecil User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2007 03:52:18.0622 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF152DE0:01C76522] X-eXpurgate-Category: 1/0 X-eXpurgate-ID: 149371::070313055321-0CA6BBB0-02C9E704/0-0/0-1 X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: fsck, soft-updates, and snapshots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:12:46 -0000 Hi, I almost sent this to freebsd-hackers, so please direct me there is that list is more appropriate. I am seeing some problems with soft-updates and fsck (I believe) so I have a couple of questions. Can anyone tell me src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates and README.snapshots are up to date? The former is dated June 2000, so it's almost 7 years old. The snapshots readme is only 2 years younger and mentions the code being alpha-test. The problems I'm seeing in 6.1 are: 1. After writing a lot if data/files to a filesystem with soft-updates enabled, then unmounting or remounting it: update error: /: blocks files It appears others have seen this too. It appears that an attempt to flush the buffers to disk as part of the unmount failed. Is this a known issue? 2. I was planning to use soft-updates and then have fsck run in the background if necessary on reboot to reclaim any lost blocks (as suggested by Kirk's whitepaper(s)). Normally the filesystem in question would be mounted read-only, but will be mounted read-write at times and remounted read-only. Will a background fsck work on a filesystem mounted read-only? Will it operate on a snapshot and if so, can or how does it replace the existing filesystem when the snapshot is corrected? Any advice much appreciated. Thanks, Dave -- Software Engineer Secure and Mobile Connectivity Nokia Enterprise Solutions +61 7 5553 8307 (office) +61 412 728 222 (cell) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 05:24:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A794A16A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74A6513C45E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 64239 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2007 04:57:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=HP1+bhnjnxBzhBRMUdr5CytfRcsmmfvzT6Zwb4pmn7zn0oV9kMmx38mlxbje80vNYyQ/IBLHTW2u0U9fQRDLOHTlOPyoBejSRkSpLpWJX1SY7SOCckiCFvJrl0v1f9AzNtOWWii1mqRRIa/qgqMguhnRjxXQMRPsvn7quEs2F/0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net@70.132.201.225 with plain) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 04:57:21 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hVEnZ5gVM1nPGAxzevXZ5pnB0ftT2GQzP2.66pmKzrBquRPhCiUzr9aWUDWfIn3reHEFVbR6SeqdxoeSj5GbdJW260AIjkhS8lKo2.GyUB.2vcXmElBbKx31DPzsNFxFDQDrZ8U_SWhix__n8c_6kQYLwQ-- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:57:17 -0600 From: ajm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070313045716.GA729@powerfull.bsd> References: <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <20070312215106.GA1362@holestein.holy.cow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070312215106.GA1362@holestein.holy.cow> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Jonathan Horne Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:24:01 -0000 On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 05:51:06PM -0400, Parv wrote: > in message <200703111301.55172.freebsd@dfwlp.com>, > wrote Jonathan Horne thusly... > > > ... > > so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the > > minimal desktop. > > > > id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id > > like to try some of the lesser known, but still just as functional > > desktops. > > > > can i get some recommendations, as well as what graphical mail > > reader and web browser works best with your recommendation? > > I have been using FVWM 2 (-devel version) for quite a while. Tvtwm > is the "emergency" wm when/if fvwm upgrade goes berserk or has not > been installed yet. The most interesting point is that windows are > almost in the same place|state -- given same page layout -- whilst > switching between the two. I think vtwm provides for more eye candy > than tvtwm. > > I used Ion (pre-lua change) which did not disappoint; have not used > current Ion version due to laziness about learning lua just to > edit a configuration file. It seemed most helpful in managing gimp > windows. > > Opera is the web browser I use (over Firefox) mainly due the ease of > assiging|using key bindings similar to vi or mutt. > > Mutt (-devel version) is the mail reader in xterm (unless I am in > hurry, then mutt works just fine on console too for fast reading). > > Some of my configuration files .. > > http://www103.pair.com/parv/comp/unix/cf/ > http://www103.pair.com/parv/comp/unix/x/ > > > - Parv > I use Opera and sometimes links for browsing. My e-mails: mutt, procmail, getmail, msmtp. My environment is Fluxbox. It's all about taste...try several, then decide what is best for you. -- Alexander FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 07:16:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAB016A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from titan.ze.tum.de (titan.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B2D13C44B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.96]) by titan.ze.tum.de (8.13.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l2D7GfHi073029; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:16:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2D7Gf84019069; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:16:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: (from estartu@localhost) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l2D7Gfal019068; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:16:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:16:41 +0100 From: Gerhard Schmidt To: Pietro Cerutti Message-ID: <20070313071641.GA18856@augusta.de> References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:16:43 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:07:15AM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On 3/12/07, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > >Hi, > Hello, >=20 > >As I see it, nss asks all sources even if the frist one allready knows t= he > >answer. Is there a way to change this. >=20 > man nsswitch.conf(5) > Look for Status codes and Actions Doesn't work. Tried the follwing nsswitch.conf=20 group: files [success=3Dreturn] ldap hosts: files dns networks: files passwd: files [success=3Dreturn] ldap shells: files This doesn't change the delay. And the nss_ldap timeout is still reported.= =20 This is not supprising because the manpage states [success=3Dreturn] is=20 default.=20 Seams there is a bug somewhere.=20 Bye Estartu --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | Nick : estartu IRC : Estartu | Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key 86856 Hiltenfingen | EMail: estartu@augusta.de | on request=20 Germany | | =20 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBRfZP2Qzx22nOTJQRAQKNCwQAqIwhBv7CqAnfir3OjsnTYxzettZn2m37 PK8eKll4z77aPDUmgQH8Z9qIh1kfgLz0nT1dKvyQPfKeNU5esshhWG7WSSkpxVjZ lHHzgdcs4ieWmVO1tX3InKyTW/JZ+gCgIKDu0yLON2wC7APQsFmNaxaXbYNbe5te jRBEjSjCDSk= =D/wb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 07:23:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FE516A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from titan.ze.tum.de (titan.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8312913C44C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.96]) by titan.ze.tum.de (8.13.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l2D7NtEH073087; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:23:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2D7Nu7N019339; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:23:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: (from estartu@localhost) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l2D7NuWU019338; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:23:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:23:56 +0100 From: Gerhard Schmidt To: Daniel Marsh Message-ID: <20070313072356.GA19230@augusta.de> References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:23:57 -0000 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 07:58:05AM +0900, Daniel Marsh wrote: >=20 > I've run into this very same problem... but the way I got around it was > putting OpenLDAP in a jail all by its lonesome and making sure that jail > would start before anything on the host system would start that may need > LDAP... (effectively meaning the LDAP server is a different "machine") Hitting the Problem with a really big hammer. Thats cures only the symptoms not the Problem. As i see it the Problem is that the status/actions in=20 nsswitch.conf not working. Since man nsswitch.conf stats that success=3Dreturn is default an therefore ldap should never be asked for Use= rs that are in the /etc/passwd file.=20 I will file a Problemreport for this one.=20 Bye Estartu --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | Nick : estartu IRC : Estartu | Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key 86856 Hiltenfingen | EMail: estartu@augusta.de | on request=20 Germany | | =20 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBRfZRjAzx22nOTJQRAQKEjwP/XTNEpO19WWNPm0Chc6CyRgNMIBREFI21 3G+hYLzCeJ+RrGX934hPZh7e0Z5vIEaAh0rmmV2irN5BLRoMsIV/QnFco9UIPlf0 lorYTuemzDtYgA0Ut2rg4sG/K/8khXrvRyVuQ+Ld3VZideQ6NEyENZBciZ0Rrlj0 /XnrnLkOFNg= =nKsD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:00:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B3616A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za (sirian.hst.org.za [209.203.2.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AB613C459 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from localhost (localhost.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CAAF31D7BE; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:56:19 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sirian.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89372-07; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:56:19 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CCD31D7A8; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:56:17 +0200 (SAST) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:01:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> <20070313071641.GA18856@augusta.de> In-Reply-To: <20070313071641.GA18856@augusta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703131001.10355.jonathan@hst.org.za> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hst.org.za Cc: Gerhard Schmidt , Pietro Cerutti Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:00:08 -0000 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 09:16, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:07:15AM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > On 3/12/07, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > Hello, > > > > >As I see it, nss asks all sources even if the frist one allready knows > > > the answer. Is there a way to change this. > > > > man nsswitch.conf(5) > > Look for Status codes and Actions > > Doesn't work. Tried the follwing nsswitch.conf > group: files [success=return] ldap > hosts: files dns > networks: files > passwd: files [success=return] ldap > shells: files > > This doesn't change the delay. And the nss_ldap timeout is still reported. > This is not supprising because the manpage states [success=return] is > default. > > Seams there is a bug somewhere. It's a well-known problem rather than a bug, and it arises when looking up group information for a user. The system needs a list of all the groups the user is a member of. Since it's a list, not a single answer, you can't short-circuit the process with ``success'' after finding a single result: initgroups(3) must work through all possible sources of group information to build the list. The only ``workaround'' I've seen suggested is the parameter introduced recently in nss_ldap: nss_initgroups_ignoreusers It takes a comma-separated list of users for whom the nss_ldap initgroups routine should immediately return NSS_STATUS_NOTFOUND. If you keep group information for all the system users in /etc/group only, and add them all to this line in nss_ldap.conf, it should remove the problem. (Warning: I haven't tested this). Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:10:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462D216A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2B113C457 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1635346ana for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:10:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bbqhljmjMlPL3ufAKDCNKV6+0c7vd95nzKFsPpj1E2tGB4HgwJG/sQWjTc5hNUSFjNjm1pzpbVcBhyJ+MRhV8UTpdUUmPfAQ9wCxyPJuUE6zGp3zKBiDfrLKZ0pGyfAh78JLIKvOm1utWIj063slXgxLjLN7hmMJCJakB1oQqv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=M3S2pe1N/Nrow/GjE/r19HQAUBLPw9pdXSWn61lS/v35ZZQ/xgexxPLgkHmZtsLLk+tTG52bjxd1SM6GDtIrAs6npvVZR/S8waQoJ810LgY8/HVBei8g0AI8rqMwm7mI0sSuYYuHYK/gGImFfv7ZHX9aqDr7PSJjSMJY8EpDXNg= Received: by 10.100.144.11 with SMTP id r11mr484252and.1173773410382; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.111.5 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:10:10 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" To: "Jonathan McKeown" , "Gerhard Schmidt" , "FreeBSD Users Questions" In-Reply-To: <200703131001.10355.jonathan@hst.org.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> <20070313071641.GA18856@augusta.de> <200703131001.10355.jonathan@hst.org.za> Cc: Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:10:11 -0000 On 3/13/07, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > The only ``workaround'' I've seen suggested is the parameter introduced > recently in nss_ldap: > > nss_initgroups_ignoreusers Right, now I remember that once I had this problem too... Another workaround would be to have two different nsswitch.conf files, one with and another without the ldap database entry, and then switch between them as part of ldap start / stop routines. - your system has the nsswitch.conf w/out ldap by default - when ldap starts, it substitutes it with the nsswitch.ch file w/ ldap entries - when ldap stops, it restores the original file > Jonathan -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:23:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEE916A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:23:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Pulz@frm2.tum.de) Received: from mailhost.frm2.tum.de (mailhost.frm2.tum.de [129.187.179.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0676513C45B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Pulz@frm2.tum.de) Received: from localhost (mailhost.frm2.tum.de [129.187.179.12]) by mailhost.frm2.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2D88fBd050510; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:08:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Joerg.Pulz@frm2.tum.de) X-Virus-Scanned: at mailhost.frm2.tum.de Received: from hades.admin.frm2 (hades.admin.frm2 [172.25.1.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhost.frm2.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2D88bRi050504 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:08:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Joerg.Pulz@frm2.tum.de) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:08:34 +0100 (CET) From: Joerg Pulz To: Gerhard Schmidt In-Reply-To: <20070313071641.GA18856@augusta.de> Message-ID: <20070313084157.E17772@unqrf.nqzva.sez2> References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> <20070313071641.GA18856@augusta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mailhost.frm2.tum.de [129.187.179.12]); Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:08:37 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:23:29 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:07:15AM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >> On 3/12/07, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: >>> Hi, >> Hello, >> >>> As I see it, nss asks all sources even if the frist one allready knows the >>> answer. Is there a way to change this. >> >> man nsswitch.conf(5) >> Look for Status codes and Actions > > Doesn't work. Tried the follwing nsswitch.conf > group: files [success=return] ldap > hosts: files dns > networks: files > passwd: files [success=return] ldap > shells: files > > This doesn't change the delay. And the nss_ldap timeout is still reported. > This is not supprising because the manpage states [success=return] is > default. > > Seams there is a bug somewhere. AFAICT, there is no bug. The behavior is completely correct as a look into the openldap code turns out. When starting up slapd, it tries to switch the credentials to the user and group specified, normally ldap:ldap. Therefor it uses getpwuid(3), getpwnam(3), getgrgid(3) and getgrnam(3) functions. If lookup for the user and group specified is okay, it then calls getuid(3) and initgroups(3). Reading initgroups(3) turns out the following: The initgroups() function uses the getgrouplist(3) function to calculate the group access list for the user specified in name. Reading getgrouplist(3) turns out the following: The getgrouplist() function reads through the group file and calculates the group access list for the user specified in name. [...] The getgrouplist() function uses the routines based on getgrent(3). Reading getgrent(3) turns out the following: The getgrent() function sequentially reads the group database and is intended for programs that wish to step through the complete list of groups. [...] The getgrent() and getgrent_r() functions make no attempt to suppress duplicate information if multiple sources are specified in nsswitch.conf(5). So after following the way through all man pages, it turns out that the behavior is fully correct as a lookup is done to find out all groups to which the specified slapd user belongs to. This includes lookups using nss_ldap when ldap is configured as source for groups in nsswitch.conf. As a side note, a short look into the bind and cron source turns out that these, and probably others too, also use the initgroups(3) function. HTH, Joerg - -- The beginning is the most important part of the work. -Plato -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF9lwFSPOsGF+KA+MRAnI+AJ0Qu0Zr9IHHLrDL60boB3mauzMPkwCfQ3Lx Zq0odiQpNiLwC3CSDkXuepU= =S+3e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:26:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D8D16A406 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from titan.ze.tum.de (titan.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA54013C45D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:26:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.96]) by titan.ze.tum.de (8.13.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l2D8QDKk074075; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:26:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2D8QEDs020885; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:26:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: (from estartu@localhost) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l2D8QELE020884; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:26:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:26:13 +0100 From: Gerhard Schmidt To: Jonathan McKeown Message-ID: <20070313082613.GA20341@augusta.de> References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> <20070313071641.GA18856@augusta.de> <200703131001.10355.jonathan@hst.org.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703131001.10355.jonathan@hst.org.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Pietro Cerutti Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:26:15 -0000 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 10:01:09AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 09:16, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:07:15AM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > > On 3/12/07, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > >As I see it, nss asks all sources even if the frist one allready kno= ws > > > > the answer. Is there a way to change this. > > > > > > man nsswitch.conf(5) > > > Look for Status codes and Actions > > > > Doesn't work. Tried the follwing nsswitch.conf > > group: files [success=3Dreturn] ldap > > hosts: files dns > > networks: files > > passwd: files [success=3Dreturn] ldap > > shells: files > > > > This doesn't change the delay. And the nss_ldap timeout is still report= ed. > > This is not supprising because the manpage states [success=3Dreturn] is > > default. > > > > Seams there is a bug somewhere. >=20 > It's a well-known problem rather than a bug, and it arises when looking u= p=20 > group information for a user. The system needs a list of all the groups t= he=20 > user is a member of. Since it's a list, not a single answer, you can't=20 > short-circuit the process with ``success'' after finding a single result:= =20 > initgroups(3) must work through all possible sources of group information= to=20 > build the list. I think its still a bug. You are right that all groups should be found so= =20 the default for groups should be success=3Dcontinue to have this done. But= =20 when I explicily specify that on success the process should abort, it should be done exacly this way.=20 > The only ``workaround'' I've seen suggested is the parameter introduced= =20 > recently in nss_ldap: >=20 > nss_initgroups_ignoreusers >=20 > It takes a comma-separated list of users for whom the nss_ldap initgroups= =20 > routine should immediately return NSS_STATUS_NOTFOUND. If you keep group= =20 > information for all the system users in /etc/group only, and add them all= to=20 > this line in nss_ldap.conf, it should remove the problem. (Warning: I hav= en't=20 > tested this). This may fix the problem with nss_ldap but its still there with other modules.=20 Bye Estartu --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | Nick : estartu IRC : Estartu | Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key 86856 Hiltenfingen | EMail: estartu@augusta.de | on request=20 Germany | | =20 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBRfZgJQzx22nOTJQRAQKmxgQAouApGrkZteg6u70K5leVtfPwDJo9PL95 R40w7OuT0towCv+3xMGmFvAreHvoDBKx4BKfB46291NN3dr4y1uh3FyJDdqNHTQn JeUjr0uWnIwSTYZtiKAMYhQKUOg7ksoiT1m+JJX3w8CQQkcIwhpLSZKAjXBVCVLN 6hK7jSVrWco= =2rVV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:30:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE0716A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (ns.umpquanet.com [63.105.30.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC6613C480 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2D86C6P019834 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:06:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2D86Clx019833 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:06:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) X-Authentication-Warning: ns.umpquanet.com: james set sender to list@museum.rain.com using -f Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:06:12 -0700 From: James Long To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070313080612.GA19177@ns.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: dmesg and GIANT-LOCK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:30:19 -0000 With regard to the recent thread about looking for GIANT-LOCKs in dmesg, why would one system say: ns : 00:56:29 /home/james> uname -v ;dmesg | grep fxp FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Tue Feb 20 15:47:09 PST 2007 fxp0: port 0x2400-0x243f mem 0xc4fff000-0xc4ffffff,0xc4e00000-0xc4efffff irq 10 at device 2.0 on pci0 miibus0: on fxp0 fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:02:a5:0a:57:73 while a more recent build says: t30 : 00:56:19 /home/james> uname -v ;dmesg | grep fxp FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #2: Thu Mar 8 08:23:11 PST 2007 fxp0: port 0x7400-0x743f mem 0xd0200000-0xd0200fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci2 miibus0: on fxp0 fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:09:6b:86:82:a6 fxp0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Is it just the difference in chipset/controller type that requires the fxp driver to use GIANT on the second machine, but not the first? I also note that on the first machine, irq 10 is solely assigned to fxp0. On t30, irq 11 is shared with a number of other devices. Dunno if that matters. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:34:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF91016A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from titan.ze.tum.de (titan.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7010F13C4B7 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.96]) by titan.ze.tum.de (8.13.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l2D8YjRO074327; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:34:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2D8YjOx021101; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:34:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: (from estartu@localhost) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l2D8Yj2C021100; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:34:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:34:45 +0100 From: Gerhard Schmidt To: Joerg Pulz Message-ID: <20070313083445.GB20341@augusta.de> References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> <20070313071641.GA18856@augusta.de> <20070313084157.E17772@unqrf.nqzva.sez2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070313084157.E17772@unqrf.nqzva.sez2> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:34:46 -0000 --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 09:08:34AM +0100, Joerg Pulz wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: >=20 > >On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:07:15AM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > >>On 3/12/07, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > >>>Hi, > >>Hello, > >> > >>>As I see it, nss asks all sources even if the frist one allready knows= =20 > >>>the > >>>answer. Is there a way to change this. > >> > >>man nsswitch.conf(5) > >>Look for Status codes and Actions > > > >Doesn't work. Tried the follwing nsswitch.conf > >group: files [success=3Dreturn] ldap > >hosts: files dns > >networks: files > >passwd: files [success=3Dreturn] ldap > >shells: files > > > >This doesn't change the delay. And the nss_ldap timeout is still reporte= d. > >This is not supprising because the manpage states [success=3Dreturn] is > >default. > > > >Seams there is a bug somewhere. >=20 > AFAICT, there is no bug. > The behavior is completely correct as a look into the openldap code turns= =20 > out. > When starting up slapd, it tries to switch the credentials to the user an= d=20 > group specified, normally ldap:ldap. Therefor it uses getpwuid(3),=20 > getpwnam(3), getgrgid(3) and getgrnam(3) functions. If lookup for the use= r=20 > and group specified is okay, it then calls getuid(3) and initgroups(3). > Reading initgroups(3) turns out the following: >=20 > The initgroups() function uses the getgrouplist(3) function to calculate > the group access list for the user specified in name. >=20 > Reading getgrouplist(3) turns out the following: >=20 > The getgrouplist() function reads through the group file and calculates > the group access list for the user specified in name. > [...] > The getgrouplist() function uses the routines based on getgrent(3). >=20 > Reading getgrent(3) turns out the following: >=20 > The getgrent() function sequentially reads the group database and is > intended for programs that wish to step through the complete list of > groups. > [...] > The getgrent() and getgrent_r() functions make no attempt to suppress=20 > duplicate information if multiple sources are specified in=20 > nsswitch.conf(5). >=20 > So after following the way through all man pages, it turns out that the= =20 > behavior is fully correct as a lookup is done to find out all groups to= =20 > which the specified slapd user belongs to. This includes lookups using=20 > nss_ldap when ldap is configured as source for groups in nsswitch.conf. >=20 > As a side note, a short look into the bind and cron source turns out that= =20 > these, and probably others too, also use the initgroups(3) function. yes. But still there is something missing. The Admin should have controll over this behavior. The reasonable default action for groups should be=20 success=3Dcontinue to go though all group sources. But the admin should still have the posibility to stop the process on success which is not possible right now. =20 Bye Estartu --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | Nick : estartu IRC : Estartu | Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key 86856 Hiltenfingen | EMail: estartu@augusta.de | on request=20 Germany | | =20 --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBRfZiJQzx22nOTJQRAQI6pAQApBwe7Z3S2QBpuzqfaqF3hctorE9qD8v8 W3vSMe6HZATJZ32gbcKVSROg29LlUKTyqxsqF8KXAxRd6TpfA2HmJ4sV7hGq9aYe Gulyb4pyew3amZH/CR1tGcySVgm8DarLaE0LfljpexkLfm3tJFzxZl/1ZPbx3bQm raZ4XOAjp2M= =/zQR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 08:57:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C330516A403 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from smtp16.wxs.nl (smtp16.wxs.nl [195.121.247.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8B613C45A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by smtp16.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEU003663K8SU@smtp16.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:57:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:57:44 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <9948.82.93.23.199.1173756547.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> To: carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl Message-id: <45F66788.4070709@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> <45F5BAEF.5050506@netscape.net> <45F5C0B0.3030406@planet.nl> <9948.82.93.23.199.1173756547.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:57:45 -0000 Martin Tournoij wrote: > > Armed Assault..? > Are you trying to run armed assault in wine? if so, then remember that > wine support for FreeBSD is horrible at best... > > Anyway, I set hint.agp.0.disabled="1" and now hw.nvidia.agp.status.status > is set to "enabled" (it was disabled before) > glxgears results are the same, ~2300 FPS. > > In my experience, games on FreeBSD are always slow, my hardware isn't very > fast (900MHz, 384MB RAM,Geforce FX5200) but on windows 2000 I'm able to > play even fairly recent games (Such as the punisher, civ4). > > On FreeBSD, anything with more graphics than rogue will be anything from > slow to unplayable, even though FreeBSD outperforms windows in almost > every other way... > > Conclusion: > Use windows for games, FreeBSD for serious stuff ... > > I run Armed Assault in Windows it looks absolutely gorgeous. Btw the punisher is an excellent game, first one I played from start to finish since a long time. My gaming rig relatively fast: AMD 4000+ 1024 Ram Videocard XFX 7800 GS 16 6 256-bit GDDR3/256MB 440MHz 1300MHz Sound Audigy 2 The thing is I notice it also in normal usage. Dragging a window around the screen sometime makes the system stutter. That when I noticed in the first place that things were wrong. I can perfectly live without games in FreeBSD but not with an X server that feels slow and is lagging :-( . For example if I draw circles with a window in Gentoo nothing happens but in FreeBSD my desktop freezes for a moment. * * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 09:12:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6F516A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za (sirian.hst.org.za [209.203.2.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3183513C46E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from localhost (localhost.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB8B31D341 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:08:08 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sirian.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95214-03 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:08:08 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D66631CF37 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:08:08 +0200 (SAST) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:13:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> <200703131001.10355.jonathan@hst.org.za> <20070313082613.GA20341@augusta.de> In-Reply-To: <20070313082613.GA20341@augusta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703131113.00673.jonathan@hst.org.za> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hst.org.za Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:12:05 -0000 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 10:26, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > > It's a well-known problem rather than a bug, and it arises when looking > > up group information for a user. The system needs a list of all the > > groups the user is a member of. Since it's a list, not a single answer, > > you can't short-circuit the process with ``success'' after finding a > > single result: initgroups(3) must work through all possible sources of > > group information to build the list. > > I think its still a bug. You are right that all groups should be found so > the default for groups should be success=continue to have this done. But > when I explicily specify that on success the process should abort, it > should be done exacly this way. You've now had responses from me and Joerg Pulz, and given us essentially the same reply. I'm not sure success means what you think it means: group information is a complete list, not ``first item found'' like a user account. You have told the system to check for group information in files and ldap. You have, therefore, not succeeded in listing all groups until you have both searched the files *and* received a response from nss_ldap, either group information or NSS_STATUS_NOTFOUND. It looks as though you can instruct nss_ldap to unconditionally return NSS_STATUS_NOTFOUND for a user, by adding nss_initgroups_ignoreusers user in nss_ldap.conf. I'd be interested to hear whether it works, having not tested it myself, but at the moment you're banging your head against the wall and shouting about how much it hurts. It will hurt less if you stop. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 09:37:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A350A16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8F013C457 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HR3RU-0006yX-67 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:37:16 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:37:16 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:37:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:37:05 +0100 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <719F520B-B7F4-4A01-B294-534393953AED@goldmark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20060911) In-Reply-To: <719F520B-B7F4-4A01-B294-534393953AED@goldmark.org> Sender: news Subject: Re: How to reinstall gcc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:37:18 -0000 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > My question is without a functioning gcc, how do a install a functioning > gcc? It seems to me that the easiest way would be to do a binary install/upgrade from the distribution CD. You might even get away with copying the relevant files (don't know which... probably binaries and libraries) from the live CD part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 09:45:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DAF16A405 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas@bsdunix.ch) Received: from conversation.bsdunix.ch (ns1.bsdunix.ch [82.220.1.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D5913C455 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas@bsdunix.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost.bsdunix.ch [127.0.0.1]) by conversation.bsdunix.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979AC5D42; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:45:00 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.bsdunix.ch Received: from conversation.bsdunix.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (conversation.bsdunix.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id OsUsjeJnusCZ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:44:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [212.101.1.83] (bert.mlan.solnet.ch [212.101.1.83]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by conversation.bsdunix.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0795D3C; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:44:59 +0100 (CET) From: Thomas Vogt To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:44:58 +0100 Message-Id: <1173779098.31466.20.camel@bert.mlan.solnet.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: aaccli doesn't work with AOC-LPZCR2 (Supermicro) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:45:02 -0000 Hello I've a new Supermicro Raid controller AOC-LPZCR2 (http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-LPZCR2.cfm) It's a Adaptec 2020ZCR Controller Monitor 5.1-0[8454] Controller Kernel 5.1-0[8454] aac0@pci7:1:0: class=0x010400 card=0x028a9005 chip=0x02859005 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec Inc' device = 'AAC-RAID RAID Controller' class = mass storage subclass = RAID FreeBSD (6.2 and Current) boots and works perfectly. Only the storage control program from port/sysutils/aaccli doesn't work with this controller. aaccli open aac0: Command Error: Is there a way to check the status from the Raid without it? Perhaps with the linux aaccli? I doubt that adaptec is releasing a new aaccli for freebsd soon. Cheers, Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 10:11:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED7216A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arz@hebo.ru) Received: from hebo.ru (hebo.ru [195.189.108.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A9013C46A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arz@hebo.ru) Received: by hebo.ru (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 5.1.5) with PIPE id 2329223; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:13:19 +0500 X-MailScan: 5667937-0582016797 Received: from [10.10.0.109] (account arz HELO pserv) by hebo.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.5) with ESMTPA id 2329222 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:13:15 +0500 From: "Alexey Zakirov" To: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:13:15 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0 Thread-Index: AcdlT9Uc4xqrKC7ETv68I3QqlKSPYw== Message-ID: Cc: Subject: Problem with VPN and LinkSYS BEFSX41 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:11:45 -0000 Hello! Situation: FreeBSD 5.3-Release + pf + racoon at local end and LinkSys BEFSX41 v2.1 firmware 1.52.9 at remote. Lifetime of phase 1 and phase 2 is the same and equal 3600 sec. Tunnel is getting up. I use setkey -D to SAD entries. There are 2 entries - inbound and outbound. OK When lifetime ends, there become 3 SAD entries - 1 outbound and 2 inbound. Number of inbound SAD entries is growing until tunnel goes down. Please help me, what's the cause? Yours, Alexey Zakirov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 12:12:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B05E16A480 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5552913C45A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F5B1F8652; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:12:04 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 4BdHY81v/SzAyl62XJ9Az3QwqLhYI9gOQBBHrWaVqKpV 1173787924 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49F31DC92; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:12:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: References: <719F520B-B7F4-4A01-B294-534393953AED@goldmark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:11:59 -0500 To: Ivan Voras X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to reinstall gcc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:12:04 -0000 On Mar 13, 2007, at 4:37 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > >> My question is without a functioning gcc, how do a install a >> functioning >> gcc? > > It seems to me that the easiest way would be to do a binary > install/upgrade from the distribution CD. You might even get away with > copying the relevant files (don't know which... probably binaries and > libraries) from the live CD part. Thanks for that. For some reason (sorry I didn't record the error messages) I got into some weird menu loop in sysinstall when I tried to upgrade. So in the end, I just mounted the installation disk, found a directory RELEASE-6.2/base in which there was an install.sh that looked like it would do the right thing. It did the right thing. The only problem was that I forgot to restore my old /etc/passwd before rebooting. As a consequence I couldn't ssh in, and so I had to lug an old monitor across the room and clear desk space for it, so that I could log on to the console. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 12:21:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE3A16A406 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from titan.ze.tum.de (titan.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369A713C46C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.96]) by titan.ze.tum.de (8.13.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l2DCL0lJ080208; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:21:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2DCL1K9024960; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:21:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: (from estartu@localhost) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l2DCL1no024959; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:21:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from estartu) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:21:01 +0100 From: Gerhard Schmidt To: Jonathan McKeown Message-ID: <20070313122101.GC20341@augusta.de> References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> <200703131001.10355.jonathan@hst.org.za> <20070313082613.GA20341@augusta.de> <200703131113.00673.jonathan@hst.org.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+nBD6E3TurpgldQp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703131113.00673.jonathan@hst.org.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:21:05 -0000 --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:13:00AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 10:26, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: >=20 > > > It's a well-known problem rather than a bug, and it arises when looki= ng > > > up group information for a user. The system needs a list of all the > > > groups the user is a member of. Since it's a list, not a single answe= r, > > > you can't short-circuit the process with ``success'' after finding a > > > single result: initgroups(3) must work through all possible sources of > > > group information to build the list. > > > > I think its still a bug. You are right that all groups should be found = so > > the default for groups should be success=3Dcontinue to have this done. = But > > when I explicily specify that on success the process should abort, it > > should be done exacly this way. >=20 > You've now had responses from me and Joerg Pulz, and given us essentially= the=20 > same reply. I'm not sure success means what you think it means: group=20 > information is a complete list, not ``first item found'' like a user acco= unt. >=20 > You have told the system to check for group information in files and ldap= . You=20 > have, therefore, not succeeded in listing all groups until you have both= =20 > searched the files *and* received a response from nss_ldap, either group= =20 > information or NSS_STATUS_NOTFOUND. >=20 > It looks as though you can instruct nss_ldap to unconditionally return=20 > NSS_STATUS_NOTFOUND for a user, by adding >=20 > nss_initgroups_ignoreusers user >=20 > in nss_ldap.conf. I'd be interested to hear whether it works, having not= =20 > tested it myself, but at the moment you're banging your head against the = wall=20 > and shouting about how much it hurts. It will hurt less if you stop. It's not. added nss_initgroups_ignoreusers ldap but it still blockes for=20 2 Min. I have found a solution that work for me. The problem is not that=20 nsswitch asks nss_ldap but that nss_ldap take so long to realise the=20 ldap isn't running. I have changed the bind_policy setting of nss_ldap from hard to soft and nss_ldap fails without delay. So it's working for me=20 for now. But still there is a problem with that. Right now there is no way we could prevent any source from adding users to any group (e.g wheel). I think thats a security problem in envoriments where you don't have control over all=20 sources used for authentication und usermanagement. If there was a way you could tell the nss to stop wenn a group definition is found in a module we had a way to stop this. That shouldn't be the default way but it schould be possible.=20 Bye Estartu --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | Nick : estartu IRC : Estartu | Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key 86856 Hiltenfingen | EMail: estartu@augusta.de | on request=20 Germany | | =20 --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBRfaXLQzx22nOTJQRAQL6FwP9G46XtMY/0qSFJ7Vay55y7Bphw3zRFs2m tAIAIFwal7GTo45NXMi5HnMlOf43/vhu6i/J6WtAlZAvHG9+QijUYyuBx6o/tfcd aw/l71AZhM1RqqiCPT9fG+4BMooX+2Vwz62EKoXylO2AfrJ0qblxwhY2x2U4tJEc tamOTjbkR2s= =t8Cc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 12:32:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD1316A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B2513C484 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HR5xw-00020S-26 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:18:56 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:18:56 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:18:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:53:49 +0100 Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <20070313080612.GA19177@ns.umpquanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20060911) In-Reply-To: <20070313080612.GA19177@ns.umpquanet.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: dmesg and GIANT-LOCK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:32:38 -0000 James Long wrote: > Is it just the difference in chipset/controller type that requires > the fxp driver to use GIANT on the second machine, but not the first? > I also note that on the first machine, irq 10 is solely assigned to > fxp0. On t30, irq 11 is shared with a number of other devices. Dunno > if that matters. It's probably only the matter of output, this has changed with time to start visibly marking which devices need GIANT. Look for NEEDSGIANT flag in ifconfig output. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 12:59:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A25316A403 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trunasuci@mail.com) Received: from fallback.us4.outblaze.com (fallback.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB1E13C455 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trunasuci@mail.com) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by fallback.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697C71C141F6 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:30:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.8.90]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id E1D661800DF7 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:30:39 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.182) by wfilter2.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Mar 2007 12:30:39 -0000 Received: by ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 587E11CE303; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:30:39 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Ahmad Arafat Abdullah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:30:38 -0800 Received: from [60.48.60.155] by ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com with http for trunasuci@mail.com; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:30:38 -0800 X-Originating-Ip: 60.48.60.155 X-Originating-Server: ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20070313123039.587E11CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: The Best OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:59:05 -0000 to some people.. it'll be "religious OS flames".. erm for me, the best os is Os that make u feel most confortable and happy.. all of them is good.. give it a chance and decide.. p/s: I'm wondering why NetBSD is not listed :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry McAllister" To: "Susanth K" Subject: Re: The Best OS Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:13:49 -0400 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 10:03:38AM +0530, Susanth K wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Am a beginner to *BSD OS. > > Am interested in setting up intel / AMD based Free and Open Source Server ( > No GUI required ) > > Prime area is Webserver With PHP/MySQL Support and Ruby On Rails. + > PostgreSQL > > Which os Will be the BEST ? > > A) Debian Linux > B) OpenBSD > C) FreeBSD > > Which project has good Support and Active Development ? Well, gee, someone has to say - of course, the best one is FreeBSD. As others have said, any of them can work. FreeBSD is well supported and has all the extra software available that you might need for that but is still lean and not bloated up with junk you don't need. So, it makes a good choice. The fact that it just works is in its favor too. ////jerry > > Please help me to choose > > THANKS IN ADVANCE > > > SUSANTH K > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 12:59:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F0616A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: from web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0679713C45A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 36489 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2007 12:59:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=poLg7Bm1UWpB013fktW0qy/7ZklkviB3TyiSbHWEP8TVzw0+zk6xw1AqzTeqmuExrOcEjRJwMylkOk516oJPig4MADFhKlG0vufuZ10iewpEZZR+uKLeYZFVPvf1s4x8yQixuD6aNBjAwTydUBK1+OSe+/rg93I36O89PBQYpEU=; X-YMail-OSG: OkxZpCMVM1n1Ol1FckUUSd7kMX0Lq4Ne_m7QcAim9loQ3NQlzw5utHWAKzLZPA3ib0YntM1CakI0FAxR7sz4Q26BFEDWW8iEHYjXXfc9t.BispxZe.x8mS6PqmJ.7Wij Received: from [67.189.184.224] by web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:59:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/471 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:59:56 -0700 (PDT) From: White Hat To: FreeBSD Users Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <407042.36229.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 marjed FORBIDDEN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:59:57 -0000 I have noticed that port "/multimedia/win32-codecs " has been marked 'FORB= IDDEN' for quite sometime now. This is the win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 port. I = would really like to get this port installed. Is there any way to circumven= t this 'FORBIDDEN' problem? Perhaps someone knows when this port will be ma= de available again?=0A =0AThanks!=0A =0A-- =0AWhite Hat =0Apigskin_referee@= yahoo.com=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A__________________________________________________= __________________________________=0ANeed Mail bonding?=0AGo to the Yahoo! = Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.=0Ahttp://answers.yahoo.c= om/dir/?link=3Dlist&sid=3D396546091 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 13:03:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9768416A405 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (mail.dignus.com [209.42.196.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221D013C448 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.1.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2DCWIZ1003852 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:32:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id l2DCWn978167 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:32:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rivers) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:32:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <200703131232.l2DCWn978167@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on office.dignus.com Subject: 6.2 running 4.x binaries (missing libc.so.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:03:48 -0000 I've been trying to run 4.x binaries on FreeBSD 6.2; with the compat4x package (and/or port) installed. However, the 4.x binaries want to find libc.so.3, which doesn't seem to be anywhere around. Anyone know the trick to getting this to work? - Thanks - - Dave Rivers - From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 13:08:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF07916A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6842F13C4AE for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334D91B10EB5; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:35:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.125] (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA2F1B10EA4; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:35:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F69A73.6090401@sun-fish.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:34:59 +0200 From: Stefan Lambrev User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070307) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ajay gopalakrishnan References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on BLAH Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i am facing these issues after my FreeBSD 6.2 installation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:08:02 -0000 Hi, This mail have to be in questions not hackers, but anyway .. ajay gopalakrishnan wrote: > Hi, > > I've recently installed FreeBSD release 6.2 successfully except that the > following things that i need importantly dont work. How should i do > these? > > 1. I am using PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE). I am running FreeBSD on > Vmware and > i set the network connection as "Bridged" on Vmware. I configured my > Ethernet device with the correct IP, Gateway, Netmask, DNS but i dont > know > how to start my internet on FreeBSD. All i do to connect to the > internet on > Windows is give my username and password. I also read the PPPoE > chapter on > the FreeBSD manual but of no use. How should i start PPoE on FreeBSD? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/pppoe.html, but better look for "mpd" > > 2. I need Vim. I dont want to use Vi. I searched in my CD-1 and CD-2. > But i > could not find the package "vim" inside it. Since i am not able to > connect > to the internet is there any other way to install Vim ? well if you do not have the source or the packages .. you have to find a way to download it :) > > 3. How should i configure FreeBSD to start in X mode directly. > Currently i > have to do startx to start X on my machine. take a look at xdm, kdm and gdm :) > > 4. I want to make "bash" as the default shell instead of "csh". Where is > that configured? man vipw > > 5. Where are the kernel sources located? I need it because i want to do > kernel network programming? Is having kernel sources sufficient or > there are > other dependencies also? src/sys are kernel sources. Where depends on your installation (normally /usr/src/sys/) > > 6. How do developers usually keep their kernel sources in sync with > the main > Central Kernel source? Do we use CVS or Subversion for this? if you are using freebsd 6.2 - man csup But best place to start is reading http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ and once you are familiar with FreeBSD you can read "developers handbook". > > Thanks & Regards, > Ajay. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 13:08:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629AC16A405; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:08:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A7F13C448; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from [88.66.11.22] (helo=amd64.laiers.local) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1HR6Xd2r8w-000697; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:55:49 +0100 From: Max Laier Organization: FreeBSD To: "ajay gopalakrishnan" Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:55:41 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: ,,8R(x[kmU]tKN@>gtH1yQE4aslGdu+2]; R]*pL,U>^H?)gW@49@wdJ`H<=?utf-8?q?=25=7D*=5FBD=0A=09U=5For=3D=5CmOZf764=26nYj=3DJYbR1PW0ud?=>|!~,,CPC.1-D$FG@0h3#'5"k{V]a~.<=?utf-8?q?mZ=7D44=23Se=7Em=0A=09Fe=7E=5C=5DX5B=5D=5Fxj?=(ykz9QKMw_l0C2AQ]}Ym8)fU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart19896020.cqpAyk44Mp"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200703131355.48437.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18wIY1n2ZHjyw2lwMABODfo7MQhYI3eBYjwip9 RAjweNcZ1xb2vxglDfIRH75PD+8DMtPIc96k7AfkpVzHaSR9Vb Dv2hkyRldaGUqVRsytS5A== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i am facing these issues after my FreeBSD 6.2 installation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:08:32 -0000 --nextPart19896020.cqpAyk44Mp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello Ajay, On Tuesday 13 March 2007 13:23, ajay gopalakrishnan wrote: > I've recently installed FreeBSD release 6.2 successfully except that > the following things that i need importantly dont work. How should i do > these? this is the wrong list to ask such questions. I referred your email to=20 the more appropriate list "freebsd-questions". You might also find that=20 the handbook can be quite helpful. > 1. I am using PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE). I am running FreeBSD on Vmware > and i set the network connection as "Bridged" on Vmware. I configured > my Ethernet device with the correct IP, Gateway, Netmask, DNS but i > dont know how to start my internet on FreeBSD. All i do to connect to > the internet on Windows is give my username and password. I also read > the PPPoE chapter on the FreeBSD manual but of no use. How should i > start PPoE on FreeBSD? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoe.html > 2. I need Vim. I dont want to use Vi. I searched in my CD-1 and CD-2. > But i could not find the package "vim" inside it. Since i am not able > to connect to the internet is there any other way to install Vim ? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/editors.html > 3. How should i configure FreeBSD to start in X mode directly. > Currently i have to do startx to start X on my machine. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html > 4. I want to make "bash" as the default shell instead of "csh". Where > is that configured? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/shells.html > 5. Where are the kernel sources located? I need it because i want to do > kernel network programming? Is having kernel sources sufficient or > there are other dependencies also? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-choosing.= html > 6. How do developers usually keep their kernel sources in sync with the > main Central Kernel source? Do we use CVS or Subversion for this? Use a cvsup file along these lines: =2D-- *default host=3Dcvsup.XXX.FreeBSD.org *default base=3D/home/YYYY/.cvsupdb *default prefix=3D/home/YYYY/fcvs *default release=3Dcvs *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all ports-all doc-all www cvsroot-all =2D-- After that "cvs -d /home/YYYY/fcvs co src" will get you up and running. =20 Ready to do "cvs diff -u" to check for the local changes you made etc. As a side note: If you can't figure out simple questions like this by=20 your self, you will have a hard time to do actual development. We=20 provide a large amount of documentation, but you must use it yourself! =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart19896020.cqpAyk44Mp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBF9p9UXyyEoT62BG0RAh/NAJwN1J6wZeSeYHr4mUo8PlDk9vmOMACfSSl5 DV5jiEJpx6dPTU3x+tJwVp4= =zlJI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart19896020.cqpAyk44Mp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 13:10:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC98F16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buhnux@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCBF13C4AD for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buhnux@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so2535503muf for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:10:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=mcAAwW26fltx6TcFvfqq0GF253jbKB5lp23Ws4D+FxYqLPiNS0W8lnLb9q4E2pBEgWcTmltR+n6+Lb3tQPcxB10gkOfYBTYVbSQ7lidB2vXMCEWcPoYlSPjq26yatfek+Qvnlx9mTyJXv0b16iIB/52nHRBvCAG3Zv9rW725Tzc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Zij+9VtFSwli6/7puIuOwjAHMBDI1Awb2AOnpbksX/hb0TV0CZ7jvLWEhQhx0FWym+nv+/HYhLAgy3GlSeI7+l3XIBXwbu7rSPTj07L20dPSmz3Yv3c9/ApcnR6uKZzUSDbAIwi61qhOVITLNq+C1vJdTNyPMewFvCl7UbnDd+U= Received: by 10.82.186.5 with SMTP id j5mr1659410buf.1173791455884; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.115.7 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:10:55 -0400 From: "Michael Johnson" Sender: buhnux@gmail.com To: "White Hat" In-Reply-To: <407042.36229.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <407042.36229.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 05282098dee46fae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 marjed FORBIDDEN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:10:57 -0000 On 3/13/07, White Hat wrote: > > I have noticed that port "/multimedia/win32-codecs " has been marked > 'FORBIDDEN' for quite sometime now. This is the win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 > port. I would really like to get this port installed. Is there any way to > circumvent this 'FORBIDDEN' problem? Perhaps someone knows when this port > will be made available again? you have WITH_QUICKTIME defined somewhere. The quicktime support should probably just be disabled instead of marking it 'FORBIDDEN'. Michael Thanks! > > -- > White Hat > pigskin_referee@yahoo.com > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 13:13:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D1C16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd.mailinglisten@googlemail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2367913C44C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd.mailinglisten@googlemail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so2369050nfc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:13:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q7ehhhvUJd8lQWX12c4A4Zc3lyf3xpVkHMA5EkSGTJGlyI7u/+QanRZXzyCOfhypFmShOtltJ48dWFKSmDWcp9EqtgiwZANFAS1zppy8sxSY3t5mS8laT0eXZCVAIpl2Zj9xhhfPTzIBMbdzzOBM7dgHWJBWYmchXzLb+i1TcUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qTDjpW3+Qz0zyUk9QPf3ex4vqXCAw4an0o0xK76Zw0y/Y3QrRKr3YTvKEPQXX8O9uZKgmewAwfLG0pySUiIWRCog2FvGaIou+qwKpMW1nLlik6I768UOlaeliJyXLDjG9pucaDeF9DCl/RvcNDwq/XZsYX46q70b6nY6lPgBjbc= Received: by 10.78.20.13 with SMTP id 13mr295974hut.1173791606043; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.180? ( [87.123.70.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j9sm26239577mue.2007.03.13.06.13.23; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45F6A373.6010704@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:13:23 +0100 From: Marco Hafke User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: White Hat , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <407042.36229.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <407042.36229.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 marjed FORBIDDEN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:13:28 -0000 Hello, this port is marked a s FORBIDDEN as long as you try to build it with Quicktime support. Simply do a "make config" /usr/ports/multimedia/win32-codecs and make sure that Quicktime-support is NOT enabled. Greets Marco White Hat schrieb: > I have noticed that port "/multimedia/win32-codecs " has been marked 'FORBIDDEN' for quite sometime now. This is the win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 port. I would really like to get this port installed. Is there any way to circumvent this 'FORBIDDEN' problem? Perhaps someone knows when this port will be made available again? > > Thanks! > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 13:14:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9DA16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3BB13C469 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2007 09:14:40 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id NAN75055; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-26-179.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.26.179]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2007 08:14:14 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17910.41894.172481.518818@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:14:14 -0500 To: FreeBSD Users Questions In-Reply-To: <407042.36229.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <407042.36229.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 marjed FORBIDDEN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:14:41 -0000 White Hat writes: > I have noticed that port "/multimedia/win32-codecs " has been > marked 'FORBIDDEN' for quite sometime now. This is the > win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 port. I would really like to get this > port installed. Is there any way to circumvent this 'FORBIDDEN' > problem? Perhaps someone knows when this port will be made > available again? Check the archives, both for questions@ and ports@. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 13:26:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E5B16A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oregnier@steelbox.org) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.38.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5159613C455 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oregnier@steelbox.org) Received: (qmail 26007 invoked by uid 503); 13 Mar 2007 13:28:30 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail179.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 13:28:30 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 13:26:13 -0000 Received: from mac76-2-82-241-6-173.fbx.proxad.net (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (postmaster@steelbox.org@82.241.6.173) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 13:26:13 -0000 Message-ID: <45F6A6B3.7040908@steelbox.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:27:15 +0100 From: Olivier Regnier User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 82.241.6.173 (mac76-2-82-241-6-173.fbx.proxad.net) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N Subject: FreeBSD6.2/Fetchmail,Procmail and Mutt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:26:38 -0000 Hello, I have a imap account and i want use procmail for filtering electronic mail directly on the imap server. I have 2 configuration files. .fetchmailrc (chmod 600) poll imp.server.org with proto IMAP user 'me@server.org' there with password 'mypassword' is 'olivier' here keep; mda "/usr/local/bin/procmail -Y -d %T" .procmailrc # settings VERBOSE=yes LOGNAME=olivier SHELL=/usr/local/bin/zsh PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:$HOME/bin MAILDIR=imaps://imp.server.org/ DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/INBOX LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmail/procmail.log :0: * ^To:.*me@imapserver.org $DEFAULT/Stuff :0 $DEFAULT I don't know what happened but filtering don't work at all. It is possible to use procmail directly on the server ? Thank you :) Olivier Regnier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 13:39:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EC216A403 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from mail.barafranca.com (mail.barafranca.com [67.19.101.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2C913C457 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:39:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F95C4F2E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.barafranca.com ([67.19.101.164]) by localhost (mail.barafranca.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00619-02 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (a213-22-26-111.cpe.netcabo.pt [213.22.26.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA3DC5779 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <45F6A98A.9070706@barafranca.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:39:22 +0000 From: Hugo Silva User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061007) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> <45F5BAEF.5050506@netscape.net> <45F5C0B0.3030406@planet.nl> <9948.82.93.23.199.1173756547.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <9948.82.93.23.199.1173756547.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at barafranca.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-1 required=4 tests=[none] X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:39:33 -0000 In my experience, games on FreeBSD are always slow, my hardware isn't very > fast (900MHz, 384MB RAM,Geforce FX5200) but on windows 2000 I'm able to > play even fairly recent games (Such as the punisher, civ4). > > On FreeBSD, anything with more graphics than rogue will be anything from > slow to unplayable, even though FreeBSD outperforms windows in almost > every other way... > > Conclusion: > Use windows for games, FreeBSD for serious stuff ... > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I have to disagree. Been playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein[: Enemy Territory] and NeverWinter Nights 1 for years - I surely wouldn't say they're "anything from slow to unplayable": NWN runs fine at max resolution, and I have constant 142FPS (they're capped @ 142) on ET, at 1280x1024. Hugo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 13:56:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DC816A419 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from smtp17.wxs.nl (smtp17.wxs.nl [195.121.247.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C07D13C500 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by smtp17.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEU002M6HDH33@smtp17.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:56:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:56:05 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <45F6A98A.9070706@barafranca.com> To: Hugo Silva Message-id: <45F6AD75.4050404@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> <45F5BAEF.5050506@netscape.net> <45F5C0B0.3030406@planet.nl> <9948.82.93.23.199.1173756547.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <45F6A98A.9070706@barafranca.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:56:19 -0000 Hugo Silva wrote: > > I have to disagree. Been playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein[: Enemy > Territory] and NeverWinter Nights 1 for years - I surely wouldn't say > they're "anything from slow to unplayable": NWN runs fine at max > resolution, and I have constant 142FPS (they're capped @ 142) on ET, at > 1280x1024. > > Hugo > That is good news :D. I think the problem is not with 3d acceleration but with AGP. I now get this error message at boot: login: NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 14:03:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451FF16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za (sirian.hst.org.za [209.203.2.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5147A13C46E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from localhost (localhost.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD1F31D3E6; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:59:32 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sirian.hst.org.za ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sirian.hst.org.za [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20946-10; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:59:31 +0200 (SAST) Received: from sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) by sirian.hst.org.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4885831D3DF; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:59:31 +0200 (SAST) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:04:22 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20070312141915.GA1842@augusta.de> <200703131113.00673.jonathan@hst.org.za> <20070313122101.GC20341@augusta.de> In-Reply-To: <20070313122101.GC20341@augusta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703131604.22794.jonathan@hst.org.za> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hst.org.za Cc: Gerhard Schmidt Subject: Re: nss_ldap and openldap on the same server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:03:17 -0000 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 14:21, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:13:00AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 10:26, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: [setting group: files ldap in nsswitch.conf] > > It looks as though you can instruct nss_ldap to unconditionally return > > NSS_STATUS_NOTFOUND for a user, by adding > > > > nss_initgroups_ignoreusers user > > > > in nss_ldap.conf. > > It's not. added nss_initgroups_ignoreusers ldap but it still blockes for > 2 Min. I have found a solution that work for me. The problem is not that > nsswitch asks nss_ldap but that nss_ldap take so long to realise the > ldap isn't running. I have changed the bind_policy setting of nss_ldap from > hard to soft and nss_ldap fails without delay. So it's working for me > for now. > > But still there is a problem with that. Right now there is no way we could > prevent any source from adding users to any group (e.g wheel). I think > thats a security problem in envoriments where you don't have control over > all sources used for authentication und usermanagement. If there was a way > you could tell the nss to stop wenn a group definition is found in a module > we had a way to stop this. That shouldn't be the default way but it schould > be possible. Basically you're saying you want to take the first list of groups you find in the same way that you can take the first username you find: and with respect, you seem to be finding increasingly strident reasons why things should be the way you want them. You're still banging your head against the wall. It's easy to ``prevent any source from adding users to any group'': just don't give the whole world write access to your groups database - whether it's in the system files, NIS, LDAP, or on tablets of stone on a small hill in your server room. If you don't want to look up group information in LDAP, don't put ldap in the group line in nsswitch.conf. If you do, secure it properly and accept that it will always do an LDAP lookup, because group information is additive - unlike user information which has to be unique. Accept, too, that if you only have a single LDAP server, there will be a bootstrap problem reading the groups list for the ldap user to start up the LDAP server: but the only "cost" of this is an extra two minutes or so on each boot, which you seem to have solved in any case. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 14:09:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC1E16A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from larse@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (216-110-13-10.static.twtelecom.net [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5641A13C483 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from larse@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id C7BE616B566; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:09:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.82]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5260416B510; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:09:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1003 larse@larseighner.com; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:11:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:11:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: larse@goodwill.6dollardialup.com To: White Hat In-Reply-To: <407042.36229.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070313091101.J87145@tbbqjvyy.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <407042.36229.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=10.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,OACYS_SINGLE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,RM_sl_Comma,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 marjed FORBIDDEN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:09:05 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, White Hat wrote: > I have noticed that port "/multimedia/win32-codecs " has been marked > 'FORBIDDEN' for quite sometime now. This is the win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 > port. I would really like to get this port installed. Is there any way to > circumvent this 'FORBIDDEN' problem? Perhaps someone knows when this port > will be made available again? If you don't know enough to comment out the FORBIDDEN line in the Makefile, perhaps you shouldn't have this port. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 14:42:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E4916A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: from web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C32A13C448 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pigskin_referee@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 69944 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2007 14:42:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=6TGJgQgrt17ICtK2m82iAZ2Ofj/a2HObfyeA/R5HPIU/55w8EH37I8jMsmG/PIGMjU+wZY4XpjuRCRi31gbVEO5q29medJYBQCGKVSwvFB3KubIhwO204OBkNSF9i7uS/ho2Piqb50WzkTZUpvzI9v9N0KMhSsuW03SuWICHXd0=; X-YMail-OSG: Ztiy1igVM1mCjvb.jH_oQdoJ.KgUoYHxeDKcfTpFgBrxwjppOXVqix_8.9Lj1TN_aWY1ORCWLphV_.ZR3k_Aewj2UABp6DKS3nynIfpKABGUM4x2GOK3WOfTOwcPF04WfFgEHtUYTxwwj6OVQzZStnEThw-- Received: from [67.189.184.224] by web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:42:02 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/471 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:42:02 -0700 (PDT) From: White Hat To: FreeBSD Users Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <499899.69684.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 marked FORBIDDEN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:42:03 -0000 ----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Lars Eighner luvbeastie@larseighner.com= =0A=0A=0A> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, White Hat wrote:=0A=0A>> I have noticed tha= t port "/multimedia/win32-codecs " has been marked=0A>> 'FORBIDDEN' for qu= ite sometime now. This is the win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1=0A>> port. I would re= ally like to get this port installed. Is there any way to=0A>> circumvent t= his 'FORBIDDEN' problem? Perhaps someone knows when this port=0A>> will be = made available again?=0A=0A> If you don't know enough to comment out the FO= RBIDDEN line in the Makefile,=0A> perhaps you shouldn't have this port.=0A= =0AWell, that is an option. From what I have discovered, the problem is wit= h the QuickTime codec. It has been a problem for an extended period of time= . Perhaps the maintainer should just remove that option form the port, or i= ssue a warning that, that codec cannot be installed without specifically mo= difying the 'makefile' or perhaps using a specific directive on the command= line.=0A=0AThen again, why make things simple.=0A=0ABTW, I am subscribed t= o the list. There is no need to Cc: me. 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Answers users.=0Ahttp://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=3Dlist&sid=3D= 396546091 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 14:47:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D55016A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5575313C45B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2007 10:47:37 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id IJP53665; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-26-179.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.26.179]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2007 09:47:31 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17910.47489.986075.631967@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:47:29 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200703131232.l2DCWn978167@lakes.dignus.com> References: <200703131232.l2DCWn978167@lakes.dignus.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: 6.2 running 4.x binaries (missing libc.so.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:47:37 -0000 Thomas David Rivers writes: > > I've been trying to run 4.x binaries on FreeBSD 6.2; with > the compat4x package (and/or port) installed. > > However, the 4.x binaries want to find libc.so.3, which > doesn't seem to be anywhere around. > > Anyone know the trick to getting this to work? /usr/ports/misc/compat4x ? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:02:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1500C16A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org (CPE-75-87-219-217.new.res.rr.com [75.87.219.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6EC13C459 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:02:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2DF5D90091435 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:05:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 69.129.174.18 (proxying for 192.168.1.13) (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:58:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <64784.69.129.174.18.1173797935.squirrel@email.polands.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:58:55 -0500 (CDT) From: "Doug Poland" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2832/Tue Mar 13 06:05:08 2007 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:02:04 -0000 Hello, I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of snapshots allowed on UFS2. Could someone point me in the right direction please? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:05:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C1F16A403 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enigma@k1.com.br) Received: from sipserver.k1.com.br (customer-200195195217.idc.onda.com.br [200.195.195.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2368D13C45B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enigma@k1.com.br) Received: from k1.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sipserver.k1.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2DF31WM074538 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:05:01 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from enigma@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (k1.com.br) Received: from [201.21.172.89] (authenticated as k1) by k1.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 15:05:01 -0000 From: Sergio Lenzi To: questions In-Reply-To: <17910.47489.986075.631967@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <200703131232.l2DCWn978167@lakes.dignus.com> <17910.47489.986075.631967@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:04:59 -0300 Message-Id: <1173798299.26618.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: 6.2 running 4.x binaries (missing libc.so.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:05:03 -0000 Em Ter, 2007-03-13 às 09:47 -0500, Robert Huff escreveu: > Thomas David Rivers writes: > > > > I've been trying to run 4.x binaries on FreeBSD 6.2; with > > the compat4x package (and/or port) installed. > > > > However, the 4.x binaries want to find libc.so.3, which > > doesn't seem to be anywhere around. > > > > Anyone know the trick to getting this to work? > > /usr/ports/misc/compat4x ? or as a workaround add in the /etc/libmap.conf libc.so.3 libc.so libm.so.3 libm.so ...... that is every shared library it complains add it to the /etc/libmap.conf It worked for me for 5.x binaries and 4.x on a FreeBSD 6.1/6.2 Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:06:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EDC16A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from smtp18.wxs.nl (smtp18.wxs.nl [195.121.247.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3133413C46A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by smtp18.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEU00ALVKMN5U@smtp18.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:06:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:06:23 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <45F6AD75.4050404@planet.nl> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <45F6BDEF.1020503@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> <45F5BAEF.5050506@netscape.net> <45F5C0B0.3030406@planet.nl> <9948.82.93.23.199.1173756547.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <45F6A98A.9070706@barafranca.com> <45F6AD75.4050404@planet.nl> Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:06:24 -0000 In case you haven't noticed I am a total FreeBSD n00b ;). How can I solve this error message? Thanks in advance!: Error message login: NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:07:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBFD16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A9413C48A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l2DF7lox009041; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:07:48 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:07:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F6A98A.9070706@barafranca.com> <45F6AD75.4050404@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F6AD75.4050404@planet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703131607.47274.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: hxc@planet.nl, Hugo Silva Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:07:56 -0000 Op dinsdag 13 maart 2007 14:56, schreef hxc@planet.nl: > Hugo Silva wrote: > > I have to disagree. Been playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein[: Enemy > > Territory] and NeverWinter Nights 1 for years - I surely wouldn't say > > they're "anything from slow to unplayable": NWN runs fine at max > > resolution, and I have constant 142FPS (they're capped @ 142) on ET, at > > 1280x1024. > > > > Hugo My experience exactly; been playing Quake3 a while at framerates over 350 (1024x768). In fact, I have created a robot simulation / visualisation which runs faster on FreeBSD than on Windows. OpenGL is just as fast on FreeBSD as it is on Windows, when set up properly. > > That is good news :D. I think the problem is not with 3d acceleration > but with AGP. I now get this error message at boot: > > login: NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU > and OS kernel > NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. You really need to delete 'device AGP' from your kernel config and rebuild your kernel. When everything is working OK, the hw.nvidia sysctl will look like this: pyotr@nox:~> sysctl hw.nvidia hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 8x 4x hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0xff000e1b:0x1f000302 hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 8x hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: enabled [ ... ] hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce 7600 GT hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 05.73.22.25.70 hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP Regards, Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:10:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7184716A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0343513C45E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 33979 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2007 15:10:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To; b=UKl6Qr+bh4u3fsibnWbmNIZg7oaHo2PF1ypg7uM3r785y/a3O6mrVVX58oGbnEJTmKJ81u755TYbi6q31CQyGANZJNVRGtVt7Kcmm3cat7DWDRvsIC0ej+PE9+KlFYwhIkuVg2wWilRuoCxlu3Q/7Q3hMK337mKFYXNUW08PBjk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@74.104.205.212 with login) by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 15:10:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: VGPWyNwVM1l_b7YbTLLA6F_FEXLyP2SfW5OiP4HOshf_dIEV3Z7Prb0yZsa6GMw60w-- From: "Tamouh H." To: "'Thomas David Rivers'" , Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:10:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcdlcTIfqIeqR2ZwQRec7ql6KPv7oAAGJ8MQ In-Reply-To: <200703131232.l2DCWn978167@lakes.dignus.com> Message-Id: <20070313151006.0343513C45E@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: RE: 6.2 running 4.x binaries (missing libc.so.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:10:06 -0000 >=20 >=20 > I've been trying to run 4.x binaries on FreeBSD 6.2; with the=20 > compat4x package (and/or port) installed. >=20 > However, the 4.x binaries want to find libc.so.3, which=20 > doesn't seem to be anywhere around. >=20 >=20 > Anyone know the trick to getting this to work? >=20 > - Thanks - > - Dave Rivers - >=20 I usually had lots of trouble with these libraries. The best solution = I've found was to do a find ./ -name "libc.so*" on the /usr/* folder, = you might find libc.so.4 or libc.so.2 , cp to libc.so.3 usually fixes = it (you may need to do this for multiple files as the errors progress). Not the best way of doing it, but it does job! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:10:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9727316A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F59013C45E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB27EBC6A; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:10:29 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Doug Poland" Message-Id: <20070313111029.49bd1d14.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <64784.69.129.174.18.1173797935.squirrel@email.polands.org> References: <64784.69.129.174.18.1173797935.squirrel@email.polands.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:10:35 -0000 In response to "Doug Poland" : > Hello, > > I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of > snapshots allowed on UFS2. Could someone point me in the right > direction please? The handbook has it: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:20:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E0416A476 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:20:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl (psmtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.247.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1432613C45D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEU007WDL9YKF@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:20:22 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:20:22 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <200703131607.47274.pieter@degoeje.nl> To: Pieter de Goeje Message-id: <45F6C136.9050105@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F6A98A.9070706@barafranca.com> <45F6AD75.4050404@planet.nl> <200703131607.47274.pieter@degoeje.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:20:29 -0000 Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > You really need to delete 'device AGP' from your kernel config and rebuild > your kernel. > > When everything is working OK, the hw.nvidia sysctl will look like this: > pyotr@nox:~> sysctl hw.nvidia > hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 8x 4x > hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported > hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: supported > hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0xff000e1b:0x1f000302 > hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia > hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 8x > hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled > hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: enabled > [ ... ] > hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce 7600 GT > hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 05.73.22.25.70 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP > > Regards, > Pieter de Goeje > Do you have a link where I can more (newbie friendly) information on how to do this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:22:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FB116A415 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org (CPE-75-87-219-217.new.res.rr.com [75.87.219.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF07613C484 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2DFP6fh091527; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:25:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 69.129.174.18 (proxying for 192.168.1.13) (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:18:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53038.69.129.174.18.1173799128.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20070313111029.49bd1d14.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <64784.69.129.174.18.1173797935.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20070313111029.49bd1d14.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:18:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Doug Poland" To: "Bill Moran" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2832/Tue Mar 13 06:05:08 2007 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Doug Poland , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:22:00 -0000 On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to "Doug Poland" : > >> Hello, >> >> I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of >> snapshots allowed on UFS2. Could someone point me in the right >> direction please? > > The handbook has it: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html > Thank you very much. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:28:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE1316A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64AB13C489 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2007 11:28:12 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id IJP71111; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-26-179.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.26.179]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2007 10:27:28 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17910.49887.381333.73086@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:27:27 -0500 To: questions In-Reply-To: <1173798299.26618.6.camel@localhost> References: <200703131232.l2DCWn978167@lakes.dignus.com> <17910.47489.986075.631967@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1173798299.26618.6.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: 6.2 running 4.x binaries (missing libc.so.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:28:13 -0000 Sergio Lenzi writes: > > > However, the 4.x binaries want to find libc.so.3, which > > > doesn't seem to be anywhere around. > > > > > > Anyone know the trick to getting this to work? > > > > /usr/ports/misc/compat4x ? > > or as a workaround > add in the /etc/libmap.conf > > libc.so.3 libc.so > libm.so.3 libm.so > > ...... > that is every shared library it complains add it to > the /etc/libmap.conf That can work. On the other hand, there's no guarantee the ABI - never mind the internal operation - of any function will remain constant across a major version bump. (As far as I know.) The safe way is to update/rebuild against current libs; failing that, to install the compat?x package. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:34:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA38716A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:34:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236DE13C43E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l2DFYcox013878; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:34:39 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:34:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <200703131607.47274.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6C136.9050105@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F6C136.9050105@planet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703131634.38837.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: hxc@planet.nl Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:34:42 -0000 Op dinsdag 13 maart 2007 16:20, schreef hxc@planet.nl: > Do you have a link where I can more (newbie friendly) information on how > to do this? Look here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html or the dutch version: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/nl_NL.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html Basically it comes down to this: # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # cp GENERIC MYKERNEL edit MYKERNEL, delete 'device agp' or you could: grep -v agp GENERIC > MYKERNEL # cd /usr/src # make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL # reboot Regards, Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:35:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7227516A403 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B5913C480 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165751C81D3; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:11:35 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:39:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45F61FEE.1030800@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <45F61FEE.1030800@nokia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703131739.06657.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: David Cecil Subject: Re: fsck, soft-updates, and snapshots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:35:59 -0000 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 05:52, David Cecil wrote: > Can anyone tell me src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates and > README.snapshots are up to date? The former is dated June 2000, so it's > almost 7 years old. The snapshots readme is only 2 years younger and > mentions the code being alpha-test. > I can answer indirectly. sysinstall, the default FreeBSD installer, enables soft-updates by default on every filesystem, except the root filesystem. I think this is true since the 4.x days. This must make them pretty well tested. I do not the exact status of snapshots. Perhaps you should ask freebsd-fs. I know some problems regarding snapshots are now resolved. > The problems I'm seeing in 6.1 are: > 1. After writing a lot if data/files to a filesystem with soft-updates > enabled, then unmounting or remounting it: > update error: /: blocks files > It appears others have seen this too. It appears that an attempt to > flush the buffers to disk as part of the unmount failed. Is this a > known issue? > Could you describe how to reproduce the error? That would be really useful. HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 15:41:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7327716A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2946113C487 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HR97z-0001x1-BF; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:41:31 +0000 Received: from [62.31.10.181] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HR97y-0003jI-EO; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:41:30 +0000 Message-ID: <45F6C62A.1010102@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:41:30 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hxc@planet.nl References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <20070312141910.GA27605@xs2.xs4all.nl> <45F56665.7060006@planet.nl> <45F56F10.1090401@netscape.net> <45F5AB1E.9030807@planet.nl> <45F5BAEF.5050506@netscape.net> <45F5C0B0.3030406@planet.nl> <9948.82.93.23.199.1173756547.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <45F6A98A.9070706@barafranca.com> <45F6AD75.4050404@planet.nl> <45F6BDEF.1020503@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F6BDEF.1020503@planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:41:33 -0000 hxc@planet.nl wrote: > In case you haven't noticed I am a total FreeBSD n00b ;). How can I > solve this error message? Thanks in advance!: > > Error message > login: NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU > and OS kernel > NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. Unless I am misunderstanding, you can't. See http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=52388 messages #4 and #6. Changes are required to the FreeBSD kernel as well as to the NVidia driver. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2006-June/016995.html I have no idea what effect this has on 3D acceleration of any kind; I only use the driver because the nv driver available when I got the card locked up. Newer Nvidia drivers do as well (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=73644) For reference, with a GT6600 and an older nvidia driver I get ~4700fps. I neither know nor care whether that is good or not; I can run X which is all I care about. I use Windows for games. hth, --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 16:43:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634A316A406 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from pd4mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB3813C468 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from pd2mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.109]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JEU00BISP2TZE00@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:42:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml3so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.147]) by pd2mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEU0038FP2LSRE0@pd2mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:42:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from proven. 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(8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2DFWF66099489 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:32:15 -0700 (PDT envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:32:14 -0700 From: Norbert Papke In-reply-to: <39547.68.184.120.224.1173758324.squirrel@webmail.cyberwang.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200703130832.15210.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> Organization: Archaeological Filing MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F61BE0.8060502@hier7.com> <39547.68.184.120.224.1173758324.squirrel@webmail.cyberwang.net> X-Authentication-warning: proven.: npapke set sender to fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca using -f User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:43:49 -0000 On Monday 12 March 2007 20:58, sean@cyberwang.net wrote: > I'm actually having the same problem, but after I took out device agp out > of my kernel. And I still cannot start x with nvidia driver. > > It complains that /dev/nvidiactl couldn't be opened. And then it says it > failed to load the kernel module. It seems that the graphics card is not detected. Does 'pciconf -l | grep nvidia' show anything? What model is it? If it is an older card, you may need the older version of the NVIDIA driver. > > sysctl -a | grep nvidia > hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 1.0-9746 Tue Dec 19 > 13:20:59 PST 2006 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 > hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 > hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.DevicesConnected: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.RmLogonRC: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.DetectPrimaryVga: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.dwords: For comparison, here is my output. Note that there are card specific entries. # sysctl -a | grep nvidia nvidia 603 1293K - 38844 16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096 nvidia0: port 0xbc00-0xbc7f mem 0xfd000000-0xfdffffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xfc000000-0xfcffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 1.0-9746 Tue Dec 19 13:20:59 PST 2006 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.DevicesConnected: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.RmLogonRC: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.DetectPrimaryVga: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.dwords: hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce 7600 GS hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 05.73.22.16.02 hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: PCI-E dev.nvidia.0.%desc: GeForce 7600 GS dev.nvidia.0.%driver: nvidia dev.nvidia.0.%location: slot=0 function=0 dev.nvidia.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x10de device=0x0392 subvendor=0x3842 subdevice=0xc547 class=0x030000 dev.nvidia.0.%parent: pci3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 16:44:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055E016A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from psmtp13.wxs.nl (psmtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.247.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9606613C45E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by psmtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEU000WFP5HXD@psmtp13.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:44:06 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:44:05 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <200703131634.38837.pieter@degoeje.nl> To: Pieter de Goeje Message-id: <45F6D4D5.3010509@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_BmHxnr6U2sts7I1S421RQg)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <200703131607.47274.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6C136.9050105@planet.nl> <200703131634.38837.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:44:08 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_BmHxnr6U2sts7I1S421RQg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > Look here: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > or the dutch version: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/nl_NL.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > > Basically it comes down to this: > # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > # cp GENERIC MYKERNEL > edit MYKERNEL, delete 'device agp' > or you could: grep -v agp GENERIC > MYKERNEL > # cd /usr/src > # make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL > # reboot > > Regards, > Pieter de Goeje > > Thank you for your extensive answer. I tried both your method and the method described in the handbook*. I still get the same error message though**. I have attached MYKERNEL, maybe you can take a look at it to see if somethings wrong? **Building a Kernel* 1. Change to the /usr/src directory: # cd /usr/src 2. Compile the kernel: # make buildkernel KERNCONF=/MYKERNEL/ 3. Install the new kernel: # make installkernel KERNCONF=/MYKERNEL/ ** Error message login: NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. --Boundary_(ID_BmHxnr6U2sts7I1S421RQg) Content-type: text/plain; name=-usr-src-sys-i386-conf-MYKERNEL Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline; filename=-usr-src-sys-i386-conf-MYKERNEL # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files. # If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first # in NOTES. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.429.2.13 2006/10/09 18:41:36 simon Exp $ machine i386 cpu I486_CPU cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident GENERIC # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. device apic # I/O APIC # Bus support. device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) device isp # Qlogic family #device ispfw # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a module device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters device aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters device ncv # NCR 53C500 device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem device amr # AMI MegaRAID device arcmsr # Areca SATA II RAID device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x device rr232x # Highpoint RocketRAID 232x device iir # Intel Integrated RAID device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID # RAID controllers device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) device ida # Compaq Smart RAID device mfi # LSI MegaRAID SAS device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 device twe # 3ware ATA RAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc # Enable this for the pcvt (VT220 compatible) console driver #device vt #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is # supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following # line to enable it (connects to the sio and/or ppc drivers): #device puc # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card device ixgb # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device bce # Broadcom BCM5706/BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet device nve # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet Networking device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100(precedence over 'lnc') device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device stge # Sundance/Tamarack TC9021 gigabit Ethernet device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards device ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ device ep # Etherlink III based cards device fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards device ie # EtherExpress 8/16, 3C507, StarLAN 10 etc. device lnc # NE2100, NE32-VL Lance Ethernet cards device sn # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips device xe # Xircom pccard Ethernet # Wireless NIC cards device wlan # 802.11 support device wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath device awi # BayStack 660 and others device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs. device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. #device wl # Older non 802.11 Wavelan wireless NIC. # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device ural # Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires miibus device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet device cdce # Generic USB over Ethernet device cue # CATC USB Ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet # FireWire support device firewire # FireWire bus code device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) --Boundary_(ID_BmHxnr6U2sts7I1S421RQg)-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 17:05:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6991916A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asanjuan@bolsabilbao.es) Received: from correo-1.bolsabilbao.es (correo-1.bolsabilbao.es [212.8.77.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92C213C45A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asanjuan@bolsabilbao.es) Received: from correo_4.bolsabilbao.es ([10.33.5.204]) by correo-1.bolsabilbao.es with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:05:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:05:16 +0100 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 Message-ID: <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049EE7@bb04.bolsabilbao.local> In-Reply-To: <45F57936.3030601@usm.cl> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? Thread-Index: AcdkwT7+zsFb6VXTQ26afe/5pY6MlgAz8zpg From: "Aitor San Juan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2007 17:05:20.0559 (UTC) FILETIME=[C82093F0:01C76591] Importance: normal Priority: normal X-ExchangeSecure-AntiSpam: valid(0) Subject: Installing a second hard disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:05:22 -0000 Hi List, I am trying to install a secondary hard disk in a Intel-based PC with FreeBSD 5.4 This secondary disk's capacity is 250 Gb. When I enter sysintall to try to format it and create a slice, FreeBSD says that the geometry of disk is not correct. I, then, type in the values detected by the BIOS as suggested, but FreeBSD still complains that those are not valid. FreeBSD sees the new disk as a disk of approx. 131 GB. So my question is: where is the problem? 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Afterwards it could not fine the following: swapon: /dev/da0s1b: No such file or directory swapon: /dev/da2s1b: No such file or directory Automatic reboot in progress... Can't stat /dev/da0s1a: No such file or directory Can't stat /dev/da0s1a: No such file or directory /dev/da0s1a: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM. /dev/da0s1a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. it seems that the above devices disappeared in /dev (See fstab file below)and goes into maintenance mode. _How do I recover the devices from my fstab file?? Why would they suddenly disappear if there was no disk failure?? _There is no scsi errors and did a disklabel to check partitions and everything looks good (see below): # disklabel da0 # /dev/rda0c: type: SCSI disk: da0s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 2212 sectors/unit: 35551782 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 409600 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 0 - 25*) b: 1048576 409600 swap # (Cyl. 25*- 90*) c: 35551782 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 2212*) e: 1638400 1458176 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 90*- 192*) f: 614400 3096576 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 192*- 230*) g: 409600 3710976 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 230*- 256*) # disklabel da1 # /dev/rda1c: type: SCSI disk: da1s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 2212 sectors/unit: 35551782 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 35551782 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 2212*) e: 18432000 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 0 - 1147*) f: 8192000 18432000 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 1147*- 1657*) # disklabel da2 # /dev/rda2c: type: SCSI disk: da2s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 2212 sectors/unit: 35551782 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] b: 1048576 0 swap # (Cyl. 0 - 65*) c: 35551782 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 2212*) e: 8192000 1048576 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 65*- 575*) f: 26311206 9240576 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 575*- 2212*) DMESGS: Rebooting... Console: serial port BIOS drive A: is disk0 BIOS drive C: is disk1 BIOS drive D: is disk2 BIOS drive E: is disk3 FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 638/65532kB (jkh@cathair, Tue May 18 03:22:02 GMT 1999) Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf /kernel text=0x1d4631 data=0x1e380+0x22460 syms=[0x4+0x27610+0x4+0x27383] Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel]... BIOS basemem (638K) != RTC basemem (640K), setting to BIOS value BIOS extmem (65532K) != RTC extmem (65535K) Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 19 11:29:47 EDT 2000 root@fwnau110.usco.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/FWNAU110 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping=2 Features=0x183fbff> real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) avail memory = 518815744 (506656K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 0, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0366000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.4.1 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.3 chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0 fxp0: rev 0x02 int a irq 16 on pci0.8.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:ea:fe:f7 fxp1: rev 0x02 int a irq 17 on pci0.9.0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:e9:4e:6b ahc0: rev 0x01 int a irq 19 on pci0.10.0 ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs vga0: rev 0x45 on pci0.13.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 fe0 not found at 0x300 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A, console sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis acd0: drive speed 1723KB/sec, 256KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track acd0: Audio: play, 16 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked wdc1 not found at 0x170 wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0 not found at 0x300 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ie0: unknown board_id: f000 ie0 not found at 0x300 ep0 not found at 0x300 ex0 not found le0 not found at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 ze0 not found at 0x300 zp0 not found at 0x300 cs0 not found at 0x300 adv0 not found at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x334 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x230 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x234 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x130 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x134 bt0 not found at 0x134 aha0 not found at 0x134 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: Broken MP table detected: 8254 is not connected to IO APIC int pin 2 APIC_IO: routing 8254 via 8259 on pin 0 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle cda0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 17366C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 17366C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 17366C) hanging root device to da0s1a swapon: /dev/da0s1b: No such file or directory swapon: /dev/da2s1b: No such file or directory Automatic reboot in progress... Can't stat /dev/da0s1a: No such file or directory Can't stat /dev/da0s1a: No such file or directory /dev/da0s1a: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM. /dev/da0s1a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. Automatic file system check failed... help! Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: msgs: not found mesg: not found id: not found [: syntax error erase ^?, kill ^U, intr ^C [: syntax error /etc/fstab file: # cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/da2s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/da2s1f /archives ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da1s1e /isp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da2s1e /isp/DB1 ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da1s1f /isp/DB2 ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0s1g /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0s1e /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0s1f /var ufs rw 2 2 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 --------------070701080001020400080007-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 17:42:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B49916A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3092C13C448 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 85265 invoked by uid 1002); 13 Mar 2007 17:42:53 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. 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(steve@ibctech.ca@208.113.63.132) by pearl.ibctech.ca with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 17:42:47 -0000 Message-ID: <45F6E29E.3070502@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:42:54 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: david.glassman@kuehne-nagel.com References: <45F6DA59.6020308@kuehne-nagel.com> In-Reply-To: <45F6DA59.6020308@kuehne-nagel.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Sean Bi , Robert S Liotta , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Steve Sauve Subject: Re: system does not come up after reboot due to devices in /dev missing freebsd v3.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:42:54 -0000 David Glassman wrote: > We have a freebsd 3.2 system and had to reboot it. Afterwards it could > not fine the following: > swapon: /dev/da0s1b: No such file or directory > swapon: /dev/da2s1b: No such file or directory > Automatic reboot in progress... > Can't stat /dev/da0s1a: No such file or directory > Can't stat /dev/da0s1a: No such file or directory > /dev/da0s1a: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM. > /dev/da0s1a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. Have you tried running: # fsck -y ...manually as per the suggestion? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 17:50:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894C816A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A4E13C45D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC471A3C1C; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7048251339; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:50:34 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: James Long Message-ID: <20070313175033.GA9609@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070313080612.GA19177@ns.umpquanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070313080612.GA19177@ns.umpquanet.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dmesg and GIANT-LOCK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:50:35 -0000 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:06:12AM -0700, James Long wrote: > With regard to the recent thread about looking for GIANT-LOCKs in > dmesg, why would one system say: >=20 > ns : 00:56:29 /home/james> uname -v ;dmesg | grep fxp > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Tue Feb 20 15:47:09 PST 2007 > fxp0: port 0x2400-0x243f mem 0xc4fff000-0x= c4ffffff,0xc4e00000-0xc4efffff irq 10 at device 2.0 on pci0 > miibus0: on fxp0 > fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:02:a5:0a:57:73 >=20 >=20 > while a more recent build says: >=20 > t30 : 00:56:19 /home/james> uname -v ;dmesg | grep fxp > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #2: Thu Mar 8 08:23:11 PST 2007 > fxp0: port 0x7400-0x743f mem = 0xd0200000-0xd0200fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci2 > miibus0: on fxp0 > fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:09:6b:86:82:a6 > fxp0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fxp is not giant locked, you can check the source for the INTR_MPSAFE flag in sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c. I'm not sure how you are seeing this, please describe the configuration of this system further (kernel config, loader.conf). Kris --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF9uRpWry0BWjoQKURAtpuAKCn+kRaLAH+QzzIPCmGEQ9ISf7kegCg9rPq SFT2ExhAsalcWAPqMPWWd0k= =drIu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 17:51:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C72816A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F5A13C484 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496C61A3C1C; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6F2ED51339; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:51:46 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20070313175145.GB9609@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200703131232.l2DCWn978167@lakes.dignus.com> <17910.47489.986075.631967@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1173798299.26618.6.camel@localhost> <17910.49887.381333.73086@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17910.49887.381333.73086@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions Subject: Re: 6.2 running 4.x binaries (missing libc.so.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:51:47 -0000 --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 10:27:27AM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > Sergio Lenzi writes: >=20 > > > > However, the 4.x binaries want to find libc.so.3, which > > > > doesn't seem to be anywhere around. > > > > =20 > > > > Anyone know the trick to getting this to work? > > >=20 > > > /usr/ports/misc/compat4x ? > > =20 > > or as a workaround=20 > > add in the /etc/libmap.conf > > =20 > > libc.so.3 libc.so > > libm.so.3 libm.so > > =20 > > ...... > > that is every shared library it complains add it to=20 > > the /etc/libmap.conf >=20 > That can work. > On the other hand, there's no guarantee the ABI - never mind > the internal operation - of any function will remain constant across > a major version bump. (As far as I know.) In fact in FreeBSD a version bump is almost always a guarantee that they are incompatible and you will break some applications by doing this. Kris --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF9uSxWry0BWjoQKURAoASAKCFM6vtd2T+z4ZBhcTG19tkCgY0ogCeJPgD OQgsNQu2cMhFCGLzdxU+Ifg= =ZoF8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 17:53:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0802216A405 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4D913C44C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67DF1A3C1C; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B7C0515E6; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:53:04 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Thomas David Rivers Message-ID: <20070313175303.GC9609@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200703131232.l2DCWn978167@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703131232.l2DCWn978167@lakes.dignus.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.2 running 4.x binaries (missing libc.so.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:53:08 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 08:32:49AM -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > I've been trying to run 4.x binaries on FreeBSD 6.2; with > the compat4x package (and/or port) installed. > > However, the 4.x binaries want to find libc.so.3, which > doesn't seem to be anywhere around. > > > Anyone know the trick to getting this to work? libc.so.3 was FreeBSD 3.x, not 4.x. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 17:54:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE72716A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit.lizardhill.com (kermit.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFBF13C44C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from ip72-193-85-114.lv.lv.cox.net ([72.193.85.114] helo=mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1HRBBr-000OFc-6H for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:53:39 -0700 From: "Don O'Neil" To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:53:57 -0700 Message-ID: <019401c76598$92c4bdb0$0700020a@mickey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdlmJJzm8fXSdhdQC+Wq0klwnEslg== Subject: Freebsd-Update & Stable Dist's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:54:01 -0000 When I built my latest server I used a FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE-200608 ISO image that was produced on one of the serveral 'snapshot' sites.... However, I was going to run freebsd-update to check for any patches, etc.. That may need to be applied and it says it won't run on my machine: This system is running FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE-200608. FreeBSD Update is only designed to track FreeBSD Security and Errata branches and cannot update this system I was wondering if there is a way to force it to think my machine is really 6.1-RELEASE, or to safely use freebsd-update on my machine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 17:54:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C272B16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A385013C459 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892B51A3C1C; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D065B51339; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:54:44 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: David Glassman Message-ID: <20070313175444.GD9609@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <45F6DA59.6020308@kuehne-nagel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F6DA59.6020308@kuehne-nagel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Sean Bi , Robert S Liotta , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Steve Sauve Subject: Re: system does not come up after reboot due to devices in /dev missing freebsd v3.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:54:45 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:07:37PM -0400, David Glassman wrote: > We have a freebsd 3.2 system and had to reboot it. Afterwards it could > not fine the following: > swapon: /dev/da0s1b: No such file or directory > swapon: /dev/da2s1b: No such file or directory > Automatic reboot in progress... > Can't stat /dev/da0s1a: No such file or directory > Can't stat /dev/da0s1a: No such file or directory > /dev/da0s1a: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM. > /dev/da0s1a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. > > it seems that the above devices disappeared in /dev (See fstab file > below)and goes into maintenance mode. > > _How do I recover the devices from my fstab file?? Why would they > suddenly disappear if there was no disk failure?? Only due to disk corruption or explicit removal. In old versions of FreeBSD you create devices by hand using the /dev/MAKEDEV script. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:07:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F9316A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C82113C459 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay6.apple.com (relay6.apple.com [17.128.113.36]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2DI7lJQ017475; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay6.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay6.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 9351A10B63; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:07:47 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807124-9d420bb0000007df-de-45f6e873423f Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay6.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 849FE10042; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:07:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049EE7@bb04.bolsabilbao.local> References: <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049EE7@bb04.bolsabilbao.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <662DFCD2-E6D7-4924-8FCC-A5CD53142215@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:07:46 -0700 To: Aitor San Juan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing a second hard disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:07:50 -0000 Hi-- On Mar 13, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Aitor San Juan wrote: > I am trying to install a secondary hard disk in a Intel-based PC > with FreeBSD 5.4 > > This secondary disk's capacity is 250 Gb. When I enter sysintall > to try to format it and create a slice, FreeBSD says that the > geometry of disk is not correct. I, then, type in the values detected > by the BIOS as suggested, but FreeBSD still complains that those > are not valid. FreeBSD sees the new disk as a disk of approx. 131 GB. > > So my question is: where is the problem? Is it that FreeBSD is not > able to recognise such a big disk capacity? FreeBSD will recognize large disks, but your hardware itself needs to support what's known as LBA48 addressing to properly work with drives larger than 137.4 GB. Make sure that you've got the latest BIOS update for your MB installed, and try to make sure that the drive is configured to use LBA or "auto" access mode, rather than C/H/S. Also, you should ignore the warning about the geometry under these circumstances rather than entering a manual geometry...C/H/S mode is going to waste most of the available disk space, so you don't want to use it. First hit from google suggests a site here: http://www. 48bitlba.com/ with some tools...I haven't looked into them, but it looks like they have a utility to check your BIOS for LBA48 compatibility. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:14:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE98816A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8C713C45B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1824747ana for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:14:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=S6fEXDuG2Hfw3EKXMgzNnWx7bl0S+TTUdbbNj9USdzrcQqV4Dh4ChdoFIF6b8GKl9ax6pWnX7y6XjIPOcjQFrgu72KrFhlPUgqFaSaS1OvxCuuQm6AEzeT+LPlork8DbBtxTG91z0SvyjsF6BNDJDO+yRAHFJ6JvoQKaDD0MlUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aJtQzDtofrkemVwc6XX3xGlFYFM3m6dsOtvzv2ajY6agnxHYQg30gi591qY3BWiMiNEzaVC6Wfl+d+OiDo/rjkNi5p3uYgTU6ImP54zfyFGmjwJTnjELQPYat9WcJE+rCmAsh5a1InQyl08Ectyhn2ZEhNE+MBfNRwE5uIaIr/k= Received: by 10.100.47.6 with SMTP id u6mr1100527anu.1173809653633; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.111.5 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:14:13 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" To: "Doug Poland" In-Reply-To: <53038.69.129.174.18.1173799128.squirrel@email.polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <64784.69.129.174.18.1173797935.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20070313111029.49bd1d14.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <53038.69.129.174.18.1173799128.squirrel@email.polands.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Bill Moran Subject: Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:14:14 -0000 On 3/13/07, Doug Poland wrote: > > On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote: > > In response to "Doug Poland" : > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of > >> snapshots allowed on UFS2. Could someone point me in the right > >> direction please? > > > > The handbook has it: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html > > > Thank you very much. > Sorry for joining the thread, but it's raised my curiosity: what's the reason for this limit? > -- > Regards, > Doug > Thanx! -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:27:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2222A16A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:27:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam.gerety@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EA613C44B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam.gerety@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so2015083wxc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:27:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=YxsH/+M8IopKJR1ECOQIuoy9w1M3PlFgdfCAC7OX1ftZQbEZmtLz6t5IxIR57yECE5ittrnkh++MuzhtPhZjTofBwrI9THUUq6G7ZoFsbIIKZebfaXuIaAeEitNMhRY1MGUQnRuiYCFsz0EOIOxgcKPYBOgiQd2tXroC/bsMoWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=Wq/DBlC7QUjba+agQaFYGzQvojlmINVQzGJZ2yYHXNDInG750NaUC/1R+MTwYHswXJK9u5yUaswJc78Xy6rvAQG41z9h+5szglnd+rNN5IfoxiTfwUiRUsyFxV024+2SvblFCW/8svIguNYZHsX9wS7WBrQCnEmdx3pMeVhEQXE= Received: by 10.90.120.6 with SMTP id s6mr6240836agc.1173808710057; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.21? ( [64.216.7.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 7sm36646096nzn.2007.03.13.10.58.27; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Adam Gerety Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:58:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: Subject: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:27:22 -0000 What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make some stickers? I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker that is just the Devil to put on my computers. Not planning to sell them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution to the effort. Thank you for your time and reply, - Adam Gerety From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:32:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7E516A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F07713C45A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1831026ana for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:32:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VNTwRps8ArU1kgirI2iZxHR2uLYpqcHC17RtIvoPio6gkmeCkvCqjBh7cGCQwhgEUCemFbILbsl6FJ9eSWa1rdkiCMyGJ1V/cOvnv0TX55lSZUzrGQiZoDDlJ7pzlEVwA4PylMQRbWYbihYIxhWrTCEslY6RDclNjvbEYxINHYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I5NG0diwF5IJ42UHbMkMZFFihbz8/zt1TedpvwFFGsetLzKwixi2iQZLOCyb+vVVCRaEvwthRvRv6TpE19FryB4pVmWJ3HSjzrfxfpPQHip9RmLPHkdyZ+npoUmwE058d+sbGqran+CMWZS87YgNU4GE+3RRFkUsIrwTRqILFkc= Received: by 10.100.7.18 with SMTP id 18mr1115796ang.1173810719656; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.111.5 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:31:59 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" To: "FreeBSD Users Questions" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:32:01 -0000 On 3/13/07, Adam Gerety wrote: > What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make > some stickers? I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker > that is just the Devil to put on my computers. Not planning to sell > them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution > to the effort. Here's some information: http://www.beastie.com/ > Thank you for your time and reply, > - Adam Gerety Thank you for your interest in The Beast ;-) -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:34:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA62816A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from drone1.qsi.net.nz (drone1-svc-skyt.qsi.net.nz [202.89.128.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACDB13C4D0 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: (qmail 3046 invoked by uid 0); 13 Mar 2007 18:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chen.org.nz) ([202.89.146.5]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Mar 2007 18:34:37 -0000 Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 564637E83A; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:34:36 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:34:36 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Adam Gerety Message-ID: <20070313183436.GA12015@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:34:39 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:58:22PM -0500, Adam Gerety wrote: > What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make > some stickers? I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker > that is just the Devil to put on my computers. Not planning to sell > them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution > to the effort. http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:35:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B7116A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA6F13C4EA for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A926EBC6A; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:35:55 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Pietro Cerutti" Message-Id: <20070313143555.ee27a265.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <64784.69.129.174.18.1173797935.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20070313111029.49bd1d14.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <53038.69.129.174.18.1173799128.squirrel@email.polands.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:35:57 -0000 In response to "Pietro Cerutti" : > On 3/13/07, Doug Poland wrote: > > > > On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote: > > > In response to "Doug Poland" : > > > > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of > > >> snapshots allowed on UFS2. Could someone point me in the right > > >> direction please? > > > > > > The handbook has it: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > Sorry for joining the thread, but it's raised my curiosity: what's the > reason for this limit? I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it's because snapshot information is stored in the filesystem superblock, and that's all that can fit in the space available in the superblock. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:41:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F89316A406 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam.gerety@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A0713C4B8 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam.gerety@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so2019431wxc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:41:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=hHohaIXIwy+XYwCqM4vCUS+/hWBQjoYALVtdSGCQtRR985ueBMysAf0GtlNV70vstjUvcOSv4HzD3qPZZAbaS44DozkW5y+BRDKbt5bIYurr1LyXirU9L1UkkF0WqtcYPt9EFtSdCQPKucsLT8T19yiexZQLZK2E5E08MHzgfec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Jq4vdnimpOXNgMsdthwz3ScJDP/hYJBaGvvw++3qI32vLluISLIZEjseKAwv/MD3CzljSaGESvM8yPg6OyOYlr70MsnVuap2eEbRKOfJyHz6H23kfgM2NnXKQ+OLWwTBlaIVrx2xh+0qYVAARZVtfA0BrXbSNnZDpQe2aMS5g38= Received: by 10.90.89.5 with SMTP id m5mr6350445agb.1173811304822; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.21? ( [64.216.7.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 8sm36758915nzn.2007.03.13.11.41.43; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:41:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20070313183436.GA12015@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20070313183436.GA12015@osiris.chen.org.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Adam Gerety Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:41:39 -0500 To: Jonathan Chen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:41:46 -0000 Perfect, thank you very much. On Mar 13, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:58:22PM -0500, Adam Gerety wrote: >> What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make >> some stickers? I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker >> that is just the Devil to put on my computers. Not planning to sell >> them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution >> to the effort. > > http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html > -- > Jonathan Chen > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > necessarily > a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, > and it > could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC > 1925 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 18:48:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301D016A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D418F13C43E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1837342ana for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:48:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tUbo1BGt3EuQe/ocarXJFI1Tfw1usJI4/dlXaeLtuUf+yJkczBpgF19trKwTTqkJQn5iGUfvOFPdjBwYDcUFBEtWk0JHlhkC79kYbqadzEtfolGakdHJb1xpgk8/e8HF0HjFjchNqytDH0bUVYA94P3IharOU2imEHVyH+c+dRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AM33qW9ycT8Qjj3rNsU1XgBrrGDiCRQ2ZpRqXvuzNIsOL0l+NiHWZCJkv8Gau5zW7Mda7VvWGEZ6+rldajqbEa/BFPhv4wUU83LEA0yHOQ8wuedXV3FEtugVU5O88OBZPSe0Y2/SydHcaAWcLSgiJN4XEyHpwst8fehqP/U1fP4= Received: by 10.100.167.7 with SMTP id p7mr997940ane.1173811720855; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.111.5 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:48:40 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" To: "Bill Moran" In-Reply-To: <20070313143555.ee27a265.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <64784.69.129.174.18.1173797935.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20070313111029.49bd1d14.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <53038.69.129.174.18.1173799128.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20070313143555.ee27a265.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:48:42 -0000 On 3/13/07, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to "Pietro Cerutti" : > > > On 3/13/07, Doug Poland wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote: > > > > In response to "Doug Poland" : > > > > > > > >> Hello, > > > >> > > > >> I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of > > > >> snapshots allowed on UFS2. Could someone point me in the right > > > >> direction please? > > > > > > > > The handbook has it: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > Sorry for joining the thread, but it's raised my curiosity: what's the > > reason for this limit? > > I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it's because snapshot information is stored > in the filesystem superblock, and that's all that can fit in the space > available in the superblock. This is the same thing that came to my mind, but in the handbook page I found: "Active snapshots are recorded in the superblock so they are persistent across unmount and remount operations along with system reboots." 1) what an "active" snapshot is? 2) is that limit limited (...) to active snapshots? Tnx > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:03:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E31816A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4031513C459 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so1420346wrq for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:03:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=iTO8rhVxyVya3V/TiRY1C2XG2cunGpK23Jv9GtLteFCm4yniJIMfPrMwhAtTcusG7sTpNkIykCWxuy9rpUgHNkYdvMz8dCwEPRD94pwdl7bDbdQrwtcJbnabII6POkn2I1JlGd9KdaEVHcsHae7zYr3Nhcre/+d09x0DrpkbN40= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=rewuPIvQRJvLYKNWbUMNjzqba86ZSGpzmXW9Lx3Da0cHxJ3d0XhPr2fM4zCA1edV32Xe6KIc7oZmAsVuXUFwAd9VRcCSypWst14OpV580xiCmLb5okCvChBARbYyF/pItekFGiUEKbB40LjR7MRdNUvcpo2PuGzlTn8jluG8vLw= Received: by 10.114.202.15 with SMTP id z15mr2544230waf.1173812601319; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.201.2 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:03:20 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Adam Gerety" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 965fd8bfda71e4ba Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:03:23 -0000 On 3/13/07, Adam Gerety wrote: > What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make > some stickers? I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker > that is just the Devil to put on my computers. Not planning to sell > them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution > to the effort. Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their misconception is the last thing we want to do. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:04:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1C016A403 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eps@anna.ana.com) Received: from anna.ana.com (anna.ana.com [208.69.41.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A0413C483 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eps@anna.ana.com) Received: from anna.ana.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anna.ana.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2DIxL7g029936 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eps@localhost) by anna.ana.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2DIxLFL029935; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200703131859.l2DIxLFL029935@anna.ana.com> From: "Eric P. Scott" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070313175303.GC9609@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200703131232.l2DCWn978167@lakes.dignus.com> Subject: Re: 6.2 running 4.x binaries (missing libc.so.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:04:36 -0000 [Kris Kennaway ] >libc.so.3 was FreeBSD 3.x, not 4.x. And misc/compat3x is marked FORBIDDEN. -=EPS=- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:04:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B536C16A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eps@anna.ana.com) Received: from anna.ana.com (anna.ana.com [208.69.41.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F33613C4B9 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eps@anna.ana.com) Received: from anna.ana.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anna.ana.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2DIpr2s029503 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eps@localhost) by anna.ana.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2DIprh5029502; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200703131851.l2DIprh5029502@anna.ana.com> From: "Eric P. Scott" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200703131607.47274.pieter@degoeje.nl> Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:04:36 -0000 [Pieter de Goeje ] >You really need to delete 'device AGP' from your kernel config and rebuild >your kernel. Really? NVIDIA's README file says that shouldn't be necessary. |Note that current FreeBSD releases are shipped with agp.ko built into the |kernel; in order to allow NvAGP to work, the kernel can be rebuilt without |'device agp' or the following entry added to /boot/device.hints: | | hint.agp.0.disabled="1" -=EPS=- (using a different model NVIDIA card) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:05:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232BC16A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A896B13C483 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs3.xs4all.nl (xs3.xs4all.nl [194.109.21.4]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2DJ5k4s011405; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:05:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs3.xs4all.nl (tournoij@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xs3.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2DJ5jNs009134; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:05:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tournoij@xs4all.nl) Received: (from tournoij@localhost) by xs3.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2DJ5jtK009133; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:05:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tournoij) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:05:45 +0100 From: Martin Tournoij To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070313190545.GB7445@xs3.xs4all.nl> References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <200703131607.47274.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6C136.9050105@planet.nl> <200703131634.38837.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6D4D5.3010509@planet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F6D4D5.3010509@planet.nl> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: hxc@planet.nl Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:05:48 -0000 On Tue 13 Mar 2007 17:03, hxc@planet.nl wrote: > Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > > >Look here: > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > >or the dutch version: > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/nl_NL.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > > > >Basically it comes down to this: > ># cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > ># cp GENERIC MYKERNEL > >edit MYKERNEL, delete 'device agp' > >or you could: grep -v agp GENERIC > MYKERNEL > ># cd /usr/src > ># make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL > ># reboot > > > >Regards, > >Pieter de Goeje > > > > > Thank you for your extensive answer. I tried both your method and the method described in the handbook*. I still get the same error message > though**. I have attached MYKERNEL, maybe you can take a look at it to see if somethings wrong? Next time you build a kernel, you should change indent GENERIC to indent MYKERNEL This will avoid any confusion about which kernel you are using. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:12:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C23616A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (ns.umpquanet.com [63.105.30.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9FB13C44C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2DJCQtF068431; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:12:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2DJCQQb068430; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:12:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) X-Authentication-Warning: ns.umpquanet.com: james set sender to list@museum.rain.com using -f Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:12:26 -0700 From: James Long To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20070313191226.GA67913@ns.umpquanet.com> References: <20070313080612.GA19177@ns.umpquanet.com> <20070313175033.GA9609@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070313175033.GA9609@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dmesg and GIANT-LOCK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:12:27 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:50:34PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:06:12AM -0700, James Long wrote: > > With regard to the recent thread about looking for GIANT-LOCKs in > > dmesg, why would one system say: > > > > ns : 00:56:29 /home/james> uname -v ;dmesg | grep fxp > > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Tue Feb 20 15:47:09 PST 2007 > > fxp0: port 0x2400-0x243f mem 0xc4fff000-0xc4ffffff,0xc4e00000-0xc4efffff irq 10 at device 2.0 on pci0 > > miibus0: on fxp0 > > fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:02:a5:0a:57:73 > > > > > > while a more recent build says: > > > > t30 : 00:56:19 /home/james> uname -v ;dmesg | grep fxp > > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #2: Thu Mar 8 08:23:11 PST 2007 > > fxp0: port 0x7400-0x743f mem 0xd0200000-0xd0200fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci2 > > miibus0: on fxp0 > > fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:09:6b:86:82:a6 > > fxp0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > fxp is not giant locked, you can check the source for the INTR_MPSAFE > flag in sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c. I'm not sure how you are seeing this, > please describe the configuration of this system further (kernel > config, loader.conf). > > Kris It just dawned on me when you said "INTR_MPSAFE", would having options IPSEC in the kernel config cause fxp to use GIANT? dmesg says in part: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #2: Thu Mar 8 08:23:11 PST 2007 root@t30.museum.rain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/T30 WARNING: debug.mpsafenet forced to 0 as ipsec requires Giant WARNING: MPSAFE network stack disabled, expect reduced performance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:12:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AE516A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D83713C4BD for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so2525568nfc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:12:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=D9brQFq0Kt6m7rZlGY9B+5UXL+fUesQMb7/Yu3IX/Ysy9MgCvslfLCp4ngYpnxUAHxb+ER51B62KHtmynsOq7l3bvnJTADhOmWCt9hfhk5RKvl/3j7LB0F1fnqNQLRWTg5F8bWfdGd5Vyzm6iusSDR0I+/Z7eCb/1aLcb3AauOQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=laJo5d0q81Y1n5jGDSC58nWFkDQlHXH9Ng/og9uWp5rs8vuXl6Cmdi7uu62vkHqL/Cd7skVYZLSumGPdiQrZOEJrRnlNB5I1gu91wDroTdWM9ZiJKiK638MsYnoF75PNjB+d8ETswZfX3Cx853rJwwL1Zkn++R/qPSaaPlI6tRA= Received: by 10.82.178.11 with SMTP id a11mr2340013buf.1173813171873; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90703131212m731986b1p8603a86eca00d6b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:12:51 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 273cfba44068898b Subject: mirror without destroying existing contents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:12:53 -0000 Anyone made a mirror w/o destroying what's in the disk already? The atacontrol man page is less than adequate in this respect...is is even possible? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:14:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F0216A403 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A12713C455 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D331EBC6A; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:14:25 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Pietro Cerutti" Message-Id: <20070313151425.5fc464db.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <64784.69.129.174.18.1173797935.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20070313111029.49bd1d14.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <53038.69.129.174.18.1173799128.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20070313143555.ee27a265.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:14:27 -0000 In response to "Pietro Cerutti" : > On 3/13/07, Bill Moran wrote: > > In response to "Pietro Cerutti" : > > > > > On 3/13/07, Doug Poland wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote: > > > > > In response to "Doug Poland" : > > > > > > > > > >> Hello, > > > > >> > > > > >> I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of > > > > >> snapshots allowed on UFS2. Could someone point me in the right > > > > >> direction please? > > > > > > > > > > The handbook has it: > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for joining the thread, but it's raised my curiosity: what's the > > > reason for this limit? > > > > I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it's because snapshot information is stored > > in the filesystem superblock, and that's all that can fit in the space > > available in the superblock. > > This is the same thing that came to my mind, but in the handbook page I found: > "Active snapshots are recorded in the superblock so they are > persistent across unmount and remount operations along with system > reboots." > > 1) what an "active" snapshot is? I think you're trying too hard to read into this. Active snapshot, as opposed to a snapshot that has been deleted/unmounted and existed in the past, is what I took it to mean. Keep in mind that the existence of a snapshot mandates certain activity on the part of the FFS drivers in order to keep that snapshot's data valid. Thus, any snapshot is "active" as long as it exists. In other words, if you delete a file from the filesystem while a snapshot is active, the FFS drivers can not reclaim that space, as it would result in data loss within the snapshot. > 2) is that limit limited (...) to active snapshots? Sure. I don't know what an "inactive" snapshot would be. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:14:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6101016A416 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4467913C465 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240461A4D80; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6AEA6515E6; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:14:31 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Eric P. Scott" Message-ID: <20070313191431.GA10952@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200703131232.l2DCWn978167@lakes.dignus.com> <200703131859.l2DIxLFL029935@anna.ana.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703131859.l2DIxLFL029935@anna.ana.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.2 running 4.x binaries (missing libc.so.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:14:32 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:59:21AM -0700, Eric P. Scott wrote: > [Kris Kennaway ] > >libc.so.3 was FreeBSD 3.x, not 4.x. > > And misc/compat3x is marked FORBIDDEN. Yep, that's easily overridden, but something the OP will have to evaluate for himself. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:16:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59DB16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85FC13C48C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACAA1A4D88; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AB678515E6; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:16:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:16:34 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: James Long Message-ID: <20070313191634.GB10952@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070313080612.GA19177@ns.umpquanet.com> <20070313175033.GA9609@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070313191226.GA67913@ns.umpquanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070313191226.GA67913@ns.umpquanet.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: dmesg and GIANT-LOCK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:16:35 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:12:26PM -0700, James Long wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:50:34PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:06:12AM -0700, James Long wrote: > > > With regard to the recent thread about looking for GIANT-LOCKs in > > > dmesg, why would one system say: > > > > > > ns : 00:56:29 /home/james> uname -v ;dmesg | grep fxp > > > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Tue Feb 20 15:47:09 PST 2007 > > > fxp0: port 0x2400-0x243f mem 0xc4fff000-0xc4ffffff,0xc4e00000-0xc4efffff irq 10 at device 2.0 on pci0 > > > miibus0: on fxp0 > > > fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:02:a5:0a:57:73 > > > > > > > > > while a more recent build says: > > > > > > t30 : 00:56:19 /home/james> uname -v ;dmesg | grep fxp > > > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #2: Thu Mar 8 08:23:11 PST 2007 > > > fxp0: port 0x7400-0x743f mem 0xd0200000-0xd0200fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci2 > > > miibus0: on fxp0 > > > fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:09:6b:86:82:a6 > > > fxp0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > > > fxp is not giant locked, you can check the source for the INTR_MPSAFE > > flag in sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c. I'm not sure how you are seeing this, > > please describe the configuration of this system further (kernel > > config, loader.conf). > > > > Kris > > It just dawned on me when you said "INTR_MPSAFE", would having > > options IPSEC > > in the kernel config cause fxp to use GIANT? > > dmesg says in part: > > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #2: Thu Mar 8 08:23:11 PST 2007 > root@t30.museum.rain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/T30 > WARNING: debug.mpsafenet forced to 0 as ipsec requires Giant > WARNING: MPSAFE network stack disabled, expect reduced performance. Yes. Use FAST_IPSEC instead, it's also faster in other ways than just having better SMP scaling properties. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:21:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D043816A405 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC99213C44B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay6.apple.com (relay6.apple.com [17.128.113.36]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2DJLIIN008150; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay6.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay6.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 26A3D10BBC; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:21:18 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807124-9c41ebb0000007df-5b-45f6f9ae7809 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay6.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 173861012D; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:21:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703131212m731986b1p8603a86eca00d6b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <539c60b90703131212m731986b1p8603a86eca00d6b2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:21:17 -0700 To: Steve Franks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: mirror without destroying existing contents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:21:18 -0000 On Mar 13, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Steve Franks wrote: > Anyone made a mirror w/o destroying what's in the disk already? The > atacontrol man page is less than adequate in this respect...is is even > possible? Oh, yes-- it's certainly possible to create a mirror with live data, but one is advised to be cautious and have a full backup available in case of problems. With hardware-based ATA controllers like Promise, 3ware, etc, they should have a BIOS utility which you can use to create the mirror-- make sure to add the drive with valid data first, and then add the second or additional drives to the mirror set. The same approach ought to work with software-mirroring such as (g) vinum. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:24:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F1916A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from smtp15.wxs.nl (smtp15.wxs.nl [195.121.247.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F5B13C465 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by smtp15.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEU00HSVWLAQ9@smtp15.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:24:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:24:46 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <200703130832.15210.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> To: Norbert Papke Message-id: <45F6FA7E.5060901@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F61BE0.8060502@hier7.com> <39547.68.184.120.224.1173758324.squirrel@webmail.cyberwang.net> <200703130832.15210.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:24:48 -0000 Norbert Papke wrote: > It seems that the graphics card is not detected. Does > 'pciconf -l | grep nvidia' > > show anything? > > What model is it? If it is an older card, you may need the older version of > the NVIDIA driver. > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Pciconf show this: pciconf -l | grep nvidia nvidia0@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x21881682 chip=0x00f510de rev=0xa2 I have a Geforce XFX 7800 GS AGP why does it show up as pci? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:25:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF1516A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:25:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1220213C4C3 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l2DJPOXl071161; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:25:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:25:11 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049EE7@bb04.bolsabilbao.local> In-Reply-To: <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049EE7@bb04.bolsabilbao.local> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703131525.11631.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Aitor San Juan Subject: Re: Installing a second hard disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:25:29 -0000 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 13:05, Aitor San Juan wrote: > Hi List, > > I am trying to install a secondary hard disk in a Intel-based PC > with FreeBSD 5.4 > > This secondary disk's capacity is 250 Gb. When I enter sysintall > to try to format it and create a slice, FreeBSD says that the > geometry of disk is not correct. I, then, type in the values detected > by the BIOS as suggested, but FreeBSD still complains that those > are not valid. FreeBSD sees the new disk as a disk of approx. 131 GB. > > So my question is: where is the problem? Is it that FreeBSD is not > able to recognise such a big disk capacity? > > Any hint, suggestion, or web link would be highly appreciated. Assuming the new disk is ad4, and you want a single FreeBSD slice/partition/FS covering the whole disk: fdisk -BI /dev/ad4 bsdlabel -wB /dev/ad4s1 newfs -U /dev/ad4s1a See the manpages for each command for more details. The -B flags aren't necessary if you never plan to boot from the new disk, but they don't hurt anything either. If you want multiple FreeBSD partitions you could run a "bsdlabel -e" after the first bsdlabel command above, and additional newfs commands as appropriate. Continuing the example above, you could do: mkdir /newdisk mount /dev/ad4s1a /newdisk echo "/dev/ad4s1a /newdisk ufs rw 2 2" >> /etc/fstab To both mount the new filesystem and have it mounted automatically at boot. See the fstab manpage for details about that. (You could of course use a text editor to modify fstab instead of the echo command above.) JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:27:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E79A16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67A113C457 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:27:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 24064382D2; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:27:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090A0381D0; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:27:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81-231-90-251-no41.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.90.251]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4C637E44; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:27:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F6FA99.5030000@passagen.se> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:25:13 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hxc@planet.nl References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F6A98A.9070706@barafranca.com> <45F6AD75.4050404@planet.nl> <200703131607.47274.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6C136.9050105@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F6C136.9050105@planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Pieter de Goeje , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:27:25 -0000 Hello Pieter, I hope this might be helpful for you. It's a forum for FreeBSD using nvidia. You can also find it from www.nvidia.com. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=47 I found alot of helpful information there when setting up my OpenGL programming environment. Good luck! hxc@planet.nl skrev: > Pieter de Goeje wrote: >> >> You really need to delete 'device AGP' from your kernel config and >> rebuild your kernel. >> >> When everything is working OK, the hw.nvidia sysctl will look like this: >> pyotr@nox:~> sysctl hw.nvidia >> hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 8x 4x >> hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported >> hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: supported >> hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0xff000e1b:0x1f000302 >> hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: enabled >> hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: nvidia >> hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: 8x >> hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: disabled >> hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: enabled >> [ ... ] >> hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce 7600 GT >> hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 >> hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 05.73.22.25.70 >> hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP >> >> Regards, >> Pieter de Goeje >> > > Do you have a link where I can more (newbie friendly) information on how > to do this? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:28:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988B616A408 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from psmtp12.wxs.nl (psmtp12.wxs.nl [195.121.247.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FE713C4CB for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by psmtp12.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEU00BBIWQYSW@psmtp12.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:28:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:28:09 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <200703131851.l2DIprh5029502@anna.ana.com> To: "Eric P. Scott" Message-id: <45F6FB49.5010400@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <200703131851.l2DIprh5029502@anna.ana.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:28:11 -0000 Eric P. Scott wrote: > [Pieter de Goeje ] > >> You really need to delete 'device AGP' from your kernel config and rebuild >> your kernel. >> > > Really? NVIDIA's README file says that shouldn't be necessary. > > |Note that current FreeBSD releases are shipped with agp.ko built into the > |kernel; in order to allow NvAGP to work, the kernel can be rebuilt without > |'device agp' or the following entry added to /boot/device.hints: > | > | hint.agp.0.disabled="1" > > -=EPS=- > (using a different model NVIDIA card) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I have tried editing /boot/device.hints first* but this didn't work. Removing AGP from the kernel also did also zero :'( * *# tail /boot/device.hints* [code]hint.ie.0.maddr="0xd0000" hint.fe.0.at="isa" hint.fe.0.disabled="1" hint.fe.0.port="0x300" hint.lnc.0.at="isa" hint.lnc.0.disabled="1" hint.lnc.0.port="0x280" hint.lnc.0.irq="10" hint.lnc.0.drq="0" hint.agp.0.disabled="1" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:34:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4FD16A406 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B7313C484 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so2535667nfc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:34:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mntwAu6oQvFZdUckkWA05CL0P1adGGLcdA4RNBUVR5wHDvRY3yZlyniytmuUWP35CGeJfNQkNFEdxGVDLjqPJOfiOO/++HzdQIE4Xk8pVeiUd5b3SFrWaYwuF5qSRFpc8psBL5wId83YLawXGdw1VxywuEjefGIu+1negaOpDEk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=irT/X5px83+DO4dxM8fkszcN0XJ2+GPOlciaOSjpbNtbPr1VhG5rnN9YSi4oIlbhvZyv+OYRkCoqaGS/wtkTJ52BVdCPyXNJuU0vEnNyGwbY6rA8E5maMVr1tS1PV7Zw8e6XTNcX/oslkwHQvYhs3x/WeyrwIsWhCt05SKPLB3o= Received: by 10.114.13.1 with SMTP id 1mr2581994wam.1173814441887; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.56.10 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260703131234w4834e000o6151316ddb0b492c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:34:01 +0000 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Andrew Pantyukhin" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: Adam Gerety , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:34:04 -0000 On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but > please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay > away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their > misconception is the last thing we want to do. > Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it? -- Q: What will happen in the Aftermath? A: Impossible to tell, since we're still in the Beforemath. http://latedeveloper.org.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:36:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F9D16A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216B113C44B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1854590ana for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lPspHdYeFfNmZvPEMNhjD/ef6h8O9sglhgOQo8HEI/0qAeF7WiQmSLe9Qxt2R6Cg7r6z8CCVPScvvf5ir8vCGp/kaDrHYx2FLAbIOIpZ7siatygeQ1cr25fe1ixNiaaUm5JAxs2/d832dNKu2Ze72sN6BvytSX/TmmiNvWI1Whk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EQbZOoKpJAnCxbvhGMQno3OaUsNHcsuz48jAkj7ABGEOH1/EwRDHfeiow7J1Ppj0CqWotAZq0EDLP8m20z/u4k8AjkTNITXNcBnUpv8xzjTfI4AXL40O7AOnGXHFBHat608l6yadImK6D+QgREyzG3Ud7gR/m85s39WibLh6gOg= Received: by 10.100.132.16 with SMTP id f16mr1218242and.1173814576502; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.111.5 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:36:16 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" To: "Bill Moran" In-Reply-To: <20070313151425.5fc464db.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <64784.69.129.174.18.1173797935.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20070313111029.49bd1d14.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <53038.69.129.174.18.1173799128.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20070313143555.ee27a265.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20070313151425.5fc464db.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:36:17 -0000 On 3/13/07, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to "Pietro Cerutti" : > > > On 3/13/07, Bill Moran wrote: > > > In response to "Pietro Cerutti" : > > > > > > > On 3/13/07, Doug Poland wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, March 13, 2007 10:10, Bill Moran wrote: > > > > > > In response to "Doug Poland" : > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hello, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of > > > > > >> snapshots allowed on UFS2. Could someone point me in the right > > > > > >> direction please? > > > > > > > > > > > > The handbook has it: > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for joining the thread, but it's raised my curiosity: what's the > > > > reason for this limit? > > > > > > I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it's because snapshot information is stored > > > in the filesystem superblock, and that's all that can fit in the space > > > available in the superblock. > > > > This is the same thing that came to my mind, but in the handbook page I found: > > "Active snapshots are recorded in the superblock so they are > > persistent across unmount and remount operations along with system > > reboots." > > > > 1) what an "active" snapshot is? > > I think you're trying too hard to read into this. Active snapshot, as opposed > to a snapshot that has been deleted/unmounted and existed in the past, is what > I took it to mean. Makes sense. Thanks! > > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:36:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0A416A407 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:36:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp1.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B51313C45B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l2DJaVLr000465; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:36:31 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:36:30 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200703131851.l2DIprh5029502@anna.ana.com> In-Reply-To: <200703131851.l2DIprh5029502@anna.ana.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703132036.31124.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: "Eric P. Scott" Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:36:54 -0000 Op dinsdag 13 maart 2007 19:51, schreef Eric P. Scott: > [Pieter de Goeje ] > > >You really need to delete 'device AGP' from your kernel config and rebuild > >your kernel. > > Really? NVIDIA's README file says that shouldn't be necessary. > > |Note that current FreeBSD releases are shipped with agp.ko built into the > |kernel; in order to allow NvAGP to work, the kernel can be rebuilt without > |'device agp' or the following entry added to /boot/device.hints: > | > | hint.agp.0.disabled="1" > > -=EPS=- > (using a different model NVIDIA card) Hmm, you're probably right, I'll try it out some time. - Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:42:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F9816A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:42:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56CC13C480 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l2DJg4Xl079101; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:42:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:41:52 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <539c60b90703131212m731986b1p8603a86eca00d6b2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703131212m731986b1p8603a86eca00d6b2@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703131541.52223.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Steve Franks Subject: Re: mirror without destroying existing contents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:42:06 -0000 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 15:12, Steve Franks wrote: > Anyone made a mirror w/o destroying what's in the disk already? The > atacontrol man page is less than adequate in this respect...is is even > possible? If you want to use gmirror (which I recommend), the most conservative approach is as follows. This can probably be adapted to other mirroring techniques/software as well. Verify that your backups are up-to-date and reliable. Create a "degraded" single-member mirror on the blank disk (or a partition/slice on said disk). (gmirror label command) Make sure that the size of the disk/slice/partition is equal to or smaller than the size of the disk/slice/partition which already contains your data. Create (a) new filsystem(s) on the new mirror. (newfs and possibly bsdlabel, depending on how/if you want to break it up) Transfer your data from the existing filesystem to the new filesystem (dump/restore -- it's easier than it sounds). (Alternative: restore from the backup you created to begin with.) Verify data transfer, make relevant changes to /etc/fstab, possibly other intermediate steps. Destroy the original filesystem (possibly using dd and /dev/zero) (not strictly necessary, but wiping at least the first part of the disk/slice/partition can help avoid potential confusion (for you and the system) later.) Insert the original disk/slice/partition into your new mirro (gmirror insert command). This approach can take longer than some others (due to the transfer requirement), but the finished product is less likely to contain surprises. I have successfully used this approach to migrate several types of volumes to gmirror sets, including boot partitions. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:43:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B259416A403 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:43:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8CF13C469 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l2DJh3ox019867; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:43:04 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:43:03 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <200703131634.38837.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6D4D5.3010509@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F6D4D5.3010509@planet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703132043.03737.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: hxc@planet.nl Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:43:09 -0000 Op dinsdag 13 maart 2007 17:44, schreef hxc@planet.nl: > Thank you for your extensive answer. I tried both your method and the > method described in the handbook*. I still get the same error message > though**. I have attached MYKERNEL, maybe you can take a look at it to > see if somethings wrong? > [snip] > Error message > login: NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU > and OS kernel > NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. Ok, the only other reason I can think of right now is that your motherboard's agp chipset isn't supported by the nvidia driver. In that case you'll need to load the FreeBSD agp driver and recompile the nvidia driver with support for freebsd's agp driver. # cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver # make config check "FREEBSD_AGP" # make clean # make deinstall reinstall clean Also, you need to go back to the "GENERIC" kernel w/ agp included, or load agp by specifying agp_load="yes" in /boot/loader.conf. Hope this helps, Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:44:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D01616A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@cshw.net) Received: from gothmog.akp-net.com (gothmog.akp-net.com [194.126.172.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9EB13C480 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@cshw.net) Received: from p579a8e54.dip.t-dialin.net ([87.154.142.84] helo=ANGBAND) by gothmog.akp-net.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HRCua-0008Tl-RF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:43:56 +0100 From: "Alexander Schlichting" To: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:43:03 +0100 Message-ID: <07fa01c765a7$e2855080$a78ff180$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acdlp9BVt+969kCnTBqmIvVsO0FFyA== Content-Language: de Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problems with SSH and Realtek driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:44:03 -0000 I had a problem with the sshd disconnecting incoming connections after a few seconds of inactivity. I tried a lot and found no solution for this so I ended up with trying the latest driver from here : http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1 &PNid=13&PFid=4&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true and since the driver is from mid November last year I did not expect it to be any better. I actually expected FreeBSD to have that driver with the kernel but it seems like it's not. After installing this driver all my problems are gone. The problem is I have to install 4 servers with the same Realtek NIC. What would be the best way to do this and to compile the driver static with the kernel. I would like to avoid loading it as a module for every server. Does a snapshot release maybe have the latest Realtek driver ? -Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:44:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E448A16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam.gerety@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945DC13C45D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam.gerety@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f47so587388pye for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:44:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tVC66gD0VRT/qteO1INqkSTK8CvVS1+Iz83RvqBtBgEL/RAQl3fS/fcdshikQ4RwnRWSMqGEnnzBxUWuV5GQfkwEZk5RW1wwvZZVnCTbYTATMdjbbG88ve6/6Pl8BIKLaN9wbvqE2VP7tCueU90uSjsP5Ds2JthFICiFxyaQH4o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=YfpvLjEuEgq6GmHl5V9fYzqWt36p4wgZGwcqGfYmL6SpO41x89OymRPt2WEvY2QdU4ksY9tt7kulfnEe14atvAv31LKvbCh9yNjbhUZhmF9lMPNk8Yq7ipdtGzOkr2vB2DG0hmTq1e3fGskkg6mXXgQCyn89nsFu4AkF/4sUDBk= Received: by 10.35.57.2 with SMTP id j2mr2469267pyk.1173815080462; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.21? ( [64.216.7.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 7sm37107895nzn.2007.03.13.12.44.38; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:44:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9F990293-DFC6-48F5-B8C4-BCE89B7F74AF@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Adam Gerety Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:44:34 -0500 To: "Andrew Pantyukhin" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:44:42 -0000 Yes, I apologize for the reference! On Mar 13, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > On 3/13/07, Adam Gerety wrote: >> What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make >> some stickers? I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker >> that is just the Devil to put on my computers. Not planning to sell >> them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution >> to the effort. > > Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but > please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay > away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their > misconception is the last thing we want to do. > > Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:45:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC5316A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F184413C458 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so1437873wrq for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:45:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CVjQ++e8as2d0jJtsWNygZw7L3TY+bydCl8f8mELM2Vf03g8XKY6yXxec3VCvUpc198+2IpJCaaii317dvi6GZUWrg/k+h+NmFNXb5ArQa4wsjhsyFEOkE8fLLs6IYAb69M01P1mylMshp2a57xTxjV4H2tiDxU7N2KVzH+Vo2U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=e41AeZnPMpRNVdkQ/UhMUQhok6wD8bi7r6mBOcxJZ1eaIRZ9ASoy2XTInRjKS9//Qj6/f3BfqSx/kkCx/dggyS7rbkc1WDFhH3zmEJWJImNTtIjV6ih69Oewq75C4QEH425AiotBDT1x6sdVN332TeCjzgEmUGgwvq+kKhp14qs= Received: by 10.64.125.17 with SMTP id x17mr2004589qbc.1173815116206; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.210.7 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <226ae0c60703131245k6a9774f5ub3f26da690dda22d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:45:16 -0400 From: "David Robillard" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Steve Franks Subject: Re: mirror without destroying existing contents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:45:17 -0000 >> Anyone made a mirror w/o destroying what's in the disk already? The >> atacontrol man page is less than adequate in this respect...is is even >> possible? > > Oh, yes-- it's certainly possible to create a mirror with live data, > but one is advised to be cautious and have a full backup available in > case of problems. With hardware-based ATA controllers like Promise, > 3ware, etc, they should have a BIOS utility which you can use to > create the mirror-- make sure to add the drive with valid data first, > and then add the second or additional drives to the mirror set. > > The same approach ought to work with software-mirroring such as (g) > vinum. I'd add gmirror(8) to the list of software RAID solutions. Man page: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=gmirror&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.2-RELEASE&format=html Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.html#GEOM-MIRROR Cheers, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:47:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9017916A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090D113C43E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l2DJl9ox020512; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:47:09 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:47:08 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <8a0028260703131234w4834e000o6151316ddb0b492c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8a0028260703131234w4834e000o6151316ddb0b492c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703132047.08923.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Adam Gerety Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:47:16 -0000 Op dinsdag 13 maart 2007 20:34, schreef Jeff Rollin: > On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but > > please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay > > away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their > > misconception is the last thing we want to do. > > Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether > we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it? Well I don't think you'll be taken seriously when you call it a banana! :) Cheers, Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:54:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A078016A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from psmtp02.wxs.nl (psmtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.247.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7A113C483 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by psmtp02.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEU0024BXYEPZ@psmtp02.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:54:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:54:13 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <45F6FA99.5030000@passagen.se> To: Roger Olofsson Message-id: <45F70165.8060005@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F6A98A.9070706@barafranca.com> <45F6AD75.4050404@planet.nl> <200703131607.47274.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6C136.9050105@planet.nl> <45F6FA99.5030000@passagen.se> Cc: hxc@planet.nl, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:54:15 -0000 Roger Olofsson wrote: > Hello Pieter, > > I hope this might be helpful for you. It's a forum for FreeBSD using > nvidia. You can also find it from www.nvidia.com. > > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=47 > > I found alot of helpful information there when setting up my OpenGL > programming environment. > > Good luck! > > > As you can see I have already posted a thread there :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:58:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D0316A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4625D13C44B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1862281ana for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:58:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=QU3OlLbRoA0nccY6oMLDa1G0raBUJFeqPRLsxwnaC7W/zyUh1pdJ/DZElOso1V5NJP0Uy8t8VcquB+Adp8R2IA8KDrr4S4Qzik/z53aP343mnYZrMUjPSblNPtUT99VARn8d3KFBFkKYF+fseuwTha0Gr53drdt8UdC5WTJvhns= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Y6HvB+KKvgzJe1KYSKjQtwFm4onC1a+t8BlHtSu10dlcFphb3ZLauvN3aNZDLizOxnKUIIZsvnsYm1xgqCjLKhdmntaS0XIuDtGwuNQ+xK6x7xE0xQxgPum/alHv5rqEQB5hNPBLpYHB5snZAZ1ZyCKJRVqWfwNcDmLfS2m6T68= Received: by 10.100.139.9 with SMTP id m9mr1254402and.1173815914363; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.109.12 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:58:34 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Daniel O'Connor" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:58:35 -0000 We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem. Here's the email address of AMD's president: dirk.meyer@amd.com Give him your two cents. On 3/12/07, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 05:10, Yann Golanski wrote: > > I have an ATI Radeon X1950 Sapphire and I am trying to get X/FreeBSD > > working with it. My system is a clean install of FreBSD. I've managed to > > get VESA to "work" but cannot get much more than that. > > There is no open source support for this card (alas). It's VESA or fglrx. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:58:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26B316A40A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A169F13C46C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so2547146nfc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:58:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=lSVLKXDuDnNj1TZbDbmIReLQSh56CtAVOUp8jhKBZhk5n7ukPGa3GVbEvrUsuGx5U8OU9bwL0RqCSRjKJ/8prObUDU3X6S+T92nVY83XjwIGcPEinAtYXBiqidLwqvKHfL57Yvza8aQIbuDHAM3ZJr+W+7gcrxPUZ2MO1Bt1OYQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=PjWt7AoezNq60bQJ8PJ313MG6RUlhWfPO0JBAUX5PrJ4IO7DA8lL58UVgzpPjUtdVdWBbFQzxJILx9uvIKrVMPcuPj3ZtjJ1HRmc5qPJpr5/6PsUh3dR7UCLpAENEEdra6SjwK0T9+PXTKb10Mr5HsSPHlHbM1bwmneHx6DdHjk= Received: by 10.114.205.1 with SMTP id c1mr2570456wag.1173815916055; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.201.2 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:58:35 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Jeff Rollin" In-Reply-To: <8a0028260703131234w4834e000o6151316ddb0b492c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8a0028260703131234w4834e000o6151316ddb0b492c@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0ff12878b29f61c0 Cc: Adam Gerety , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:58:43 -0000 On 3/13/07, Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but > > please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay > > away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their > > misconception is the last thing we want to do. > > Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether > we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it? No, but from now on google will return an extra hit to "freebsd devil" queries... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 20:08:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEFC16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ranger@oldpathsbaptistchurch.org) Received: from trinity.vnet-inc.com (matrix.vnet-inc.com [216.129.224.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA4E13C45D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:08:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ranger@oldpathsbaptistchurch.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.vnet-inc.com [127.0.0.1]) by trinity.vnet-inc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035965A45369 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:37:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from trinity.vnet-inc.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (matrix.vnet-inc.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70614-09 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:37:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.157.170] (unknown [65.19.244.43]) by trinity.vnet-inc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946B95A45040 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:37:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Old Ranger Organization: OPBC To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:39:01 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <8a0028260703131234w4834e000o6151316ddb0b492c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8a0028260703131234w4834e000o6151316ddb0b492c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703131339.01492.ranger@oldpathsbaptistchurch.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at vnet-inc.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:08:40 -0000 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 13:34, Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but > > please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay > > away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their > > misconception is the last thing we want to do. > > Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether > we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it? Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman complain to me about having a "devil" image on our church website. Rev. Z. Wade Hampton Twin Bridges, MT -- Old Ranger www.ranger-infotech.com www.oldpathsbaptistchurch.org www.andynyerealestate.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 20:23:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A6316A480 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:23:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B2613C487 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2DKKNrP026107; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:20:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45F7077F.5060802@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:20:15 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pieter de Goeje References: <8a0028260703131234w4834e000o6151316ddb0b492c@mail.gmail.com> <200703132047.08923.pieter@degoeje.nl> In-Reply-To: <200703132047.08923.pieter@degoeje.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Adam Gerety Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:23:02 -0000 Pieter de Goeje wrote: > Op dinsdag 13 maart 2007 20:34, schreef Jeff Rollin: >> On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: >>> Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but >>> please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay >>> away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their >>> misconception is the last thing we want to do. >> Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether >> we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it? > Well I don't think you'll be taken seriously when you call it a banana! :) > Who owns /COPYRIGHT on the FreeBSD "Banana Logo", anyway? I'd like to use it on some stickers .... Kevin "Bah da bing bah da BAHT" Kinsey -- You should avoid hedging, at least that's what I think. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 20:29:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298F716A405 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail49.e.nsc.no (mail49.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C4913C44C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [84.202.201.189] (084202201189.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.201.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail49.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l2DKTpJJ009741 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:29:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F709BA.3010804@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:29:46 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F61BE0.8060502@hier7.com> <39547.68.184.120.224.1173758324.squirrel@webmail.cyberwang.net> <200703130832.15210.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> <45F6FA7E.5060901@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F6FA7E.5060901@planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:29:54 -0000 hxc@planet.nl wrote: > > pciconf -l | grep nvidia > nvidia0@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x21881682 chip=0x00f510de rev=0xa2 > > I have a Geforce XFX 7800 GS AGP why does it show up as pci? Mine also shows up as PCI. As long as it works, I don't mind: %pciconf -l | grep nvidia nvidia0@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x000210b0 chip=0x017110de rev=0xa3 hdr=0x00 I'd be curious to know whether Pieter's last suggestion helps. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 20:42:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD4516A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl (psmtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.247.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2795313C448 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEV007ZC075KF@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:42:42 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:42:41 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <200703132043.03737.pieter@degoeje.nl> To: Pieter de Goeje Message-id: <45F70CC1.4010604@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <200703131634.38837.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6D4D5.3010509@planet.nl> <200703132043.03737.pieter@degoeje.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: hxc@planet.nl, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:42:43 -0000 Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > Ok, the only other reason I can think of right now is that your motherboard's > agp chipset isn't supported by the nvidia driver. In that case you'll need to > load the FreeBSD agp driver and recompile the nvidia driver with support for > freebsd's agp driver. > > # cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver > # make config > check "FREEBSD_AGP" > # make clean > # make deinstall reinstall clean > > Also, you need to go back to the "GENERIC" kernel w/ agp included, or load agp > by specifying agp_load="yes" in /boot/loader.conf. > > Hope this helps, > > Pieter de Goeje > > I recompiled the kernel with AGP support enabled. The FreeBSD agp driver yields the same results. Meaning the same error message* and the same fps :-( . Maybe it is an idea to upgrade the kernel? I searched for a good howto but couldn't find anything useful. Who knows a link with more information about this? *login: NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 20:43:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E86A16A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.192.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2594713C465 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from icarus.home.lan (c-71-198-0-135.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[71.198.0.135]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20070313203343m1400g0sfve>; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:33:47 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 44C6D1FA03D; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:33:43 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20070313203343.GA66076@icarus.home.lan> Mail-Followup-To: Nikolas Britton , Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://jdc.parodius.com/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:43:50 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:58:34PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer > documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD > or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem. > > Here's the email address of AMD's president: dirk.meyer@amd.com > > Give him your two cents. Boycotting their hardware due to lack-of public developer docs is extreme but justified. Everyone has the right to do that if they desire. But in my opinion, mailing the president of AMD is really not the way to go about this. That methodology invites angry people sending him flames, which does nothing but destroy the image of a mature, reliable open-source community. Besides, chances are it's not Meyer who's making these decisions (re: proprietary hardware / NDA-only documentation), but a few select individuals at ATI who are fuelled off of paranoia (the most common defence being fear nVidia/other competitors will "steal their technology"). Really sounds like the decision of a legal dept. and not a CEO. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 20:47:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C487116A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE0913C484 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so2065323wxc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.44.4 with SMTP id r4mr2323060wxr.1173818860881; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.4? ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h10sm7420829wxd.2007.03.13.13.47.40; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:47:48 -0400 To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: References: X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20070313164139.07A4.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.30.03 [en] From: Gerard Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:47:41 -0000 On Tuesday March 13, 2007 at 03:58:34 (PM) Nikolas Britton wrote: > We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer > documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD > or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem. Do you in your wildest dreams actually believe that will make an iota of difference? The vast majority of those components are purchased by PC manufacturers; not the everyday PC user. If you really want to try an effect a change in policy, and personally I believe Don Quixote had a better chance at success, you should try enlisting the support of PC manufacturers. -- Gerard Clark's Law: Sufficiently advanced cluelessness is indistinguishable from malice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 20:49:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587BC16A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aniruddhaplas@planet.nl) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.247.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C5413C45D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aniruddhaplas@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEU00FSDXQJUT@smtp19.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:49:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:49:31 +0100 From: Aniruddha In-reply-to: <45F6FA99.5030000@passagen.se> To: Roger Olofsson Message-id: <45F7004B.1020409@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F6A98A.9070706@barafranca.com> <45F6AD75.4050404@planet.nl> <200703131607.47274.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6C136.9050105@planet.nl> <45F6FA99.5030000@passagen.se> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:49:34 -0000 Roger Olofsson wrote: > Hello Pieter, > > I hope this might be helpful for you. It's a forum for FreeBSD using > nvidia. You can also find it from www.nvidia.com. > > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=47 > > I found alot of helpful information there when setting up my OpenGL > programming environment. > > Good luck! > > > As you can see I have already posted a thread there :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 20:54:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C8F16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from JGretz@Angstman.com) Received: from angstman.com (customer-66-213-129-218.velocitus.net [66.213.129.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4057A13C455 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from JGretz@Angstman.com) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:59:40 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <150E08CEC4094342AB141E7D7F15E31E61372C@hades.dynasty.angstman.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Slim Server thread-index: AcdlsbqhYDdobJkPRoS38FbHmFDaHQ== From: "Jason Gretz" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Slim Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:54:13 -0000 Hey guys, I tried installing Slim Server from = /usr/ports/audio/slimserver and I am getting this error: =20 Makefile out-of-date with respect to = /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/Config.pm / = = ---usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE/config.h Cleaning current config before rebuilding Makefile... make -f Makefile.old clean > /dev/null 2>&1 /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 Makefile.PL "INSTALLDIRS=3Dsite" "CC=3Dcc" = "CCFLAGS=3D-O2 -fn = o-strict-aliasing -pipe " "PREFIX=3D/usr/local" = "INSTALLPRIVLIB=3D/usr/local/lib" "I = NSTALLARCHLIB=3D/usr/local/lib" Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Writing Makefile for File::Which =3D=3D> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <=3D=3D =3D=3D> Please rerun the make command. <=3D=3D false *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/p5-File-Which/work/File-Which-0.05. *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/p5-File-Which. *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/slimserver. =20 Any Ideas? I have run =93portupgrade =96a=94 as well as updated my ports = tree with cvsup. =20 FreeBSD 6.1 =20 Thanks! =20 Jason --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.10/720 - Release Date: = 3/12/2007 7:19 PM =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 20:54:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C1416A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: from smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F30BB13C458 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hier7.com) Received: (qmail 61893 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2007 20:54:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.192?) (cms.kw@rogers.com@74.109.56.68 with plain) by smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 20:54:48 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: b.J2oPQVM1mRTk1IH4.5EaPLtpIhzv.2KzcEP8KfMX6IQWBBrJXIW.GBOh.cICTTTQ-- Message-ID: <45F70F97.9020300@hier7.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:54:47 -0400 From: Chris Slothouber Organization: hier7 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <200703131634.38837.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6D4D5.3010509@planet.nl> <200703132043.03737.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F70CC1.4010604@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F70CC1.4010604@planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:54:49 -0000 What version of FreeBSD are you currently running. Check out the FreeBSD Handbook for step-by-step instructions for synchronizing your source and building an updated kernel and userland. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html hxc@planet.nl wrote: > Pieter de Goeje wrote: > (snip) > fps :-( . Maybe it is an idea to upgrade the kernel? I searched for a > good howto but couldn't find anything useful. Who knows a link with more > information about this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:09:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6194616A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0265513C484 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so1480162wrq for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:09:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Me5LNowYWEnsDtHXj5LAYTxianMG+W09Axx2XK1h7YQOku9VxpSYgkcls5+BiEJSacW2K9qL3I9qDXxDbXfktoG42l+vRoeW0/Uhy59ihe/yb8BenksRBJbJxKQK+1loCye6znhNpQykA39DAVicEKG5qS43rVVOQ3z6SHLxo+w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gRVRrHjVDSLc6XuIruJMOg8iiHZHAydycnThqzmVl5qjzqUEybyZXxwglPN7dX0VdccLb2DdWbUjzANUzJ/6m4gVC2Amui2DEVgiSjdZE1uE4BwwZeGDhNd0AfxN7pt4pHdPPWgTQdKR5hDFf6z7PGsOcyBugWu8KFaTb22xvkg= Received: by 10.114.185.8 with SMTP id i8mr2623979waf.1173818623867; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.103.15 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2a41acea0703131343y71c849a0u390256d39409072@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:43:43 -0700 From: "Jack Vogel" To: "Nikolas Britton" , "Daniel O'Connor" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070313203343.GA66076@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070313203343.GA66076@icarus.home.lan> Cc: Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:09:02 -0000 On 3/13/07, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:58:34PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer > > documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD > > or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem. > > > > Here's the email address of AMD's president: dirk.meyer@amd.com > > > > Give him your two cents. > > Boycotting their hardware due to lack-of public developer docs is > extreme but justified. Everyone has the right to do that if they > desire. > > But in my opinion, mailing the president of AMD is really not the way to > go about this. That methodology invites angry people sending him > flames, which does nothing but destroy the image of a mature, reliable > open-source community. > > Besides, chances are it's not Meyer who's making these decisions (re: > proprietary hardware / NDA-only documentation), but a few select > individuals at ATI who are fuelled off of paranoia (the most common > defence being fear nVidia/other competitors will "steal their > technology"). Really sounds like the decision of a legal dept. and not > a CEO. Right, flaming never helps, but then I don't think the intention was to have anyone flame, 'raising awareness' is a better goal :) AMD has people that work on Linux (I interviewed with them some years back), maybe using that route to get to the decision makers? Cheers, Jack From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:11:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2B616A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F228013C487 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98659519CD for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:11:11 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070313211111.4a8c7c89@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20070312223920.1a7a4629.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> References: <042d01c76476$b226bc30$16743490$@net> <20070313001520.GA7158@holestein.holy.cow> <20070312223920.1a7a4629.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Recover Make ARG's from a ports Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:11:16 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:39:20 -0400 Randy Pratt wrote: > There is already a mechanism in place for this: > > /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf It better to put the configuaration in make.conf so it's seen by the ports system itself. ports-mgmt/portconf can simplify this The problem with pkgtools.conf is that it doesn't always work. Missing dependencies get built by the ports system itself, outside of portupgrade's control. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:12:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683A416A402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from smtp18.wxs.nl (smtp18.wxs.nl [195.121.247.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234D213C46C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by smtp18.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEV00GGL1KYX2@smtp18.wxs.nl> for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:12:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:12:34 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <45F70F97.9020300@hier7.com> To: Chris Slothouber Message-id: <45F713C2.3080809@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <200703131634.38837.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6D4D5.3010509@planet.nl> <200703132043.03737.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F70CC1.4010604@planet.nl> <45F70F97.9020300@hier7.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:12:36 -0000 Chris Slothouber wrote: > What version of FreeBSD are you currently running. > > Check out the FreeBSD Handbook for step-by-step instructions for > synchronizing your source and building an updated kernel and userland. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html > > > hxc@planet.nl wrote: >> Pieter de Goeje wrote: >> (snip) >> fps :-( . Maybe it is an idea to upgrade the kernel? I searched for a >> good howto but couldn't find anything useful. Who knows a link with >> more information about this? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Is the only possible to upgrade the kernel by upgrading FreeBSD as a whole? For now if I understand the total upgrading idea. I would like to keep FreeBSD stable. in order to upgrade the kernel I need to: 1 Use the cvsup program (gotta figure how yet) 2 Rebuilding world: read /usr/src/UPDATING # make buildworld # make buildkernel # make installkernel # reboot single user mode # mergemaster -p # make installworld # mergemaster # reboot # cd /usr/src # make buildkernel KERNCONF=/MYKERNEL/ # make installkernel KERNCONF=/MYKERNEL /Darn this looks pretty complicated :-P From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:21:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9A916A407 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140B113C483 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2DLLBEw003385; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:21:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070313162006.0269b670@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:21:05 -0500 To: "Aitor San Juan" , From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049EE7@bb04.bolsabilbao.lo cal> References: <45F57936.3030601@usm.cl> <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049EE7@bb04.bolsabilbao.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Installing a second hard disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:21:56 -0000 Check your BIOS and possibly update the BIOS. Also low-level format the=20 disk to ensure there is nothing on the disk causing any issues. -Derek At 12:05 PM 3/13/2007, Aitor San Juan wrote: >Hi List, > >I am trying to install a secondary hard disk in a Intel-based PC >with FreeBSD 5.4 > >This secondary disk's capacity is 250 Gb. When I enter sysintall >to try to format it and create a slice, FreeBSD says that the >geometry of disk is not correct. I, then, type in the values detected >by the BIOS as suggested, but FreeBSD still complains that those >are not valid. FreeBSD sees the new disk as a disk of approx. 131 GB. > >So my question is: where is the problem? Is it that FreeBSD is not >able to recognise such a big disk capacity? > >Any hint, suggestion, or web link would be highly appreciated. > >Thanks in advance >Aitor. > > >************ LEGEZKO OHARRA / AVISO LEGAL / LEGAL ADVICE ************* >Mezu honek isilpeko informazioa gorde dezake, edo jabea duena, edota legez= =20 >babestuta dagoena. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:26:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DA416A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giacomo@eclypse.it) Received: from eclypse.it (host120-142-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [82.56.142.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC2313C48C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giacomo@eclypse.it) Received: from eclypse.it (localhost.it [127.0.0.1]) by eclypse.it (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2DL30c9014809 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:03:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from giacomo@eclypse.it) Received: (from giacomo@localhost) by eclypse.it (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id l2DL2xS8014807 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:02:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from giacomo) Resent-Message-Id: <200703132102.l2DL2xS8014807@eclypse.it> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:13:06 +0100 From: FreeBSD User Giacomo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070312201306.GA4231@eclypse.it> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Resent-From: FreeBSD User Giacomo Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:02:59 +0100 Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Samsung DVD writer. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:26:54 -0000 Hello to all. I have bought recently an external USB DVD writer Samsung Super (model SE-S184M/EUBN) I do not succeed in to burn DVD (only CD). The system (FreeBSD 6,1) recognizes masterizzatore like: umass0: TSST corp USB Mass Storage Device, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 3 cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: device Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers cd0: Device Attempt to query size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray close If I use the comand: dvd+rw- format /dev/cd0 I obtain * DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by , version 6.0. :-( (unable to GET CONFIGURATION: Input/output error and on the consul: umass0: Unsupported ATAPI command 0x46. Some idea? Thanks. -- Isaia Luciano FreeBSD user From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:30:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB69816A403 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp1.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4821F13C455 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l2DLUgLr018199; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:30:42 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:30:41 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F70F97.9020300@hier7.com> <45F713C2.3080809@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F713C2.3080809@planet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703132230.41857.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: hxc@planet.nl Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:30:46 -0000 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 22:12, hxc@planet.nl wrote: > Chris Slothouber wrote: > > What version of FreeBSD are you currently running. > > > > Check out the FreeBSD Handbook for step-by-step instructions for > > synchronizing your source and building an updated kernel and userland. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.ht > >ml > > > > hxc@planet.nl wrote: > >> Pieter de Goeje wrote: > >> (snip) > >> fps :-( . Maybe it is an idea to upgrade the kernel? I searched for a > >> good howto but couldn't find anything useful. Who knows a link with > >> more information about this? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Is the only possible to upgrade the kernel by upgrading FreeBSD as a > whole? For now if I understand the total upgrading idea. I would like to > keep FreeBSD stable. in order to upgrade the kernel I need to: Yes the steps below do exactly that: upgrade everything, including the kernel. > > 1 Use the cvsup program (gotta figure how yet) Use something like the following as "supfile": --- cut ---- *default host=cvsup.nl.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all ---- cut ---- then run: # csup -g -L 2 supfile For more information: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > 2 Rebuilding world: > read /usr/src/UPDATING > > # make buildworld > # make buildkernel > # make installkernel You can specify KERNCONF=MYKERNEL here, if you want to build a custom kernel. > # reboot > > single user mode > # mergemaster -p > # make installworld > # mergemaster mergemaster -U will save you some time here... > # reboot Correct. > # cd /usr/src > # make buildkernel KERNCONF=/MYKERNEL/ > # make installkernel KERNCONF=/MYKERNEL Not necessary (already done above). By the way specify MYKERNEL without any '/' signs. > > > /Darn this looks pretty complicated :-P Good Luck! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:41:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AF916A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kithera@yahoo.com) Received: from web43132.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (web43132.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [216.252.121.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF72213C489 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kithera@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 52819 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2007 21:41:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=tzrS7iNnxV0Db1354S1tg9SMKXVYhgaV2ENInQ0fjsJBdVpGNAqXdFY7L3hxzSDDKjbBH4gs7HYdvMnzC4PdDI3vltDDXCiTCt1HI5wy6QoCk+AD2GLYT0jtt3/aB8Pt5OHS/ECSiG96xZPLsv7BRTUjSA2v5W1zZS9M/dzvp5c=; X-YMail-OSG: 2RzOEooVM1lalzGL5Z1xJfSq6kQplsGFXsFnqq7iahREMbLViomL4kmWYOHt5T8Y6L0xPwkODogGmMRMSP0Tp9P9Ju_y.WCy9nDtK8Z8ICPQtJlHWPeVG.3.fw3A6vBkOw_UdEUbuZq1GFJugFgIQlfp Received: from [67.173.189.68] by web43132.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:41:48 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:41:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Grant Wagner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <562459.51091.qm@web43132.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 169, Issue 9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:41:49 -0000 As both a Christian and a FreeBSD user, I have stickers on my car related to both. It's truly humorous to see the occasional glare I might get because of Beastie or the rare double take due to both being there simultaneously. Luckily my church has a respectably sized geek community, and more often that not, Beastie gets the respect he deserves. Always it's a good conversation starter about either. Grant -----Original Message----- Message: 17 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:03:20 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image To: "Adam Gerety" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 3/13/07, Adam Gerety wrote: > What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make > some stickers? I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker > that is just the Devil to put on my computers. Not planning to sell > them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution > to the effort. Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their misconception is the last thing we want to do. Thanks! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:46:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB4116A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDF113C487 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so2087252wxc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:46:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UPVah/+ktL9or1HcuwjOo42lvrTe8kGDHeFpZThCYdHZ+RP3zaduBrZQadVk31f0wswvzLciX7RK+62p/LYq+vy4RM0AwY9s2ERgCp0d6E+XPPuVum0CU8G+sKAOUfkmTd8cXlXkbYCq3YNnHFXY4qy3YYq7Ojw0mUiOzwK4KFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W1oZkAQczjk9jZl+GeLFaKg9qsPjMDcIcXW2p1bjIS+LcYtHTlBjOBmujWnJL9VGhh0fJzn3BbjHHfyXU5QPJLSOtrX9KNmrcNQhbrRyRpGX1u2iWy9gxFEHEUIVafYZAYr6u9BhXvkeTjYL4JDULb8hLm0bG/oBJbo+zkRbeOc= Received: by 10.90.116.6 with SMTP id o6mr6556213agc.1173822361673; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.25.1 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:46:01 -0800 From: "Kip Macy" To: "Nikolas Britton" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:46:02 -0000 Please be very careful. The only real alternative (Intel comes and goes) is Nvidia whose driver is binary-only for i386 (no amd64 support) and has a history for being notoriously buggy. I only buy ATI because of the problems I keep seeing people have with the Nvidia driver. I have a friend who has basically abandoned his dual-head Nvidia card due to recurring issues. -Kip On 3/13/07, Nikolas Britton wrote: > We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer > documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD > or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem. > > Here's the email address of AMD's president: dirk.meyer@amd.com > > Give him your two cents. > > > > On 3/12/07, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 05:10, Yann Golanski wrote: > > > I have an ATI Radeon X1950 Sapphire and I am trying to get X/FreeBSD > > > working with it. My system is a clean install of FreBSD. I've managed to > > > get VESA to "work" but cannot get much more than that. > > > > There is no open source support for this card (alas). It's VESA or fglrx. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:50:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC5E16A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from bache.ece.cmu.edu (BACHE.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.129.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FC713C45B for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from [10.9.204.128] (dsl093-061-215.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.61.215]) by bache.ece.cmu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC0189; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070313203343.GA66076@icarus.home.lan> References: <20070313203343.GA66076@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5E16DADA-6FB9-4C94-BA12-C66726254FCF@ece.cmu.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:25:23 -0400 To: FreeBSD Stable , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:50:37 -0000 On Mar 13, 2007, at 16:33 , Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:58:34PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: >> We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer >> documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD >> or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem. >> Besides, chances are it's not Meyer who's making these decisions (re: > proprietary hardware / NDA-only documentation), but a few select > individuals at ATI who are fuelled off of paranoia (the most common > defence being fear nVidia/other competitors will "steal their > technology"). Really sounds like the decision of a legal dept. and > not > a CEO. Hounding on AMD won't help right now regardless; they're still finding out what kind of mess they've acquired, making changes to it is a long way off. :) -- brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] allbery@kf8nh.com system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 22:02:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8D916A4E1 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from smtp17.wxs.nl (smtp17.wxs.nl [195.121.247.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E7913C468 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by smtp17.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEV002L73VUDF@smtp17.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:02:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:02:18 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <200703132230.41857.pieter@degoeje.nl> To: Pieter de Goeje Message-id: <45F71F6A.3040705@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F70F97.9020300@hier7.com> <45F713C2.3080809@planet.nl> <200703132230.41857.pieter@degoeje.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:02:23 -0000 Pieter de Goeje wrote: > Yes the steps below do exactly that: upgrade everything, including the kernel. > >> 1 Use the cvsup program (gotta figure how yet) >> > Use something like the following as "supfile": > --- cut ---- > *default host=cvsup.nl.freebsd.org > *default base=/var/db > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > src-all > ---- cut ---- > then run: > # csup -g -L 2 supfile > > For more information: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > > Good Luck! > > > I am afraid I already have a problem: # cvsup standard-supfile Cannot get IP address of my own host -- is its hostname correct? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 22:28:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C0916A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ambrisko@ambrisko.com) Received: from mail.ambrisko.com (mail.ambrisko.com [64.174.51.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C3713C448 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ambrisko@ambrisko.com) Received: from server2.ambrisko.com (HELO www.ambrisko.com) ([192.168.1.2]) by mail.ambrisko.com with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2007 15:13:17 -0700 Received: from ambrisko.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.ambrisko.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2DMH0F2051785; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko@ambrisko.com) Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by ambrisko.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l2DMH0OD051784; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> In-Reply-To: To: Kip Macy Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL94b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:28:26 -0000 Kip Macy writes: | Please be very careful. The only real alternative (Intel comes and | goes) is Nvidia whose driver is binary-only for i386 (no amd64 | support) and has a history for being notoriously buggy. I only buy ATI | because of the problems I keep seeing people have with the Nvidia | driver. I have a friend who has basically abandoned his dual-head | Nvidia card due to recurring issues. One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean towards Nvidia :-( Doug A. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 22:30:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43A616A401 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E81613C484 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from [192.168.1.29] (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A925C1F; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:30:51 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <45F72619.3050009@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:30:49 -1000 From: NetOps Center User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Ranger References: <8a0028260703131234w4834e000o6151316ddb0b492c@mail.gmail.com> <200703131339.01492.ranger@oldpathsbaptistchurch.org> In-Reply-To: <200703131339.01492.ranger@oldpathsbaptistchurch.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:30:53 -0000 Old Ranger wrote: > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 13:34, Jeff Rollin wrote: >> On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: >>> Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but >>> please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay >>> away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their >>> misconception is the last thing we want to do. >> Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether >> we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it? > Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman complain to me about having a > "devil" image on our church website. > > Rev. Z. Wade Hampton > Twin Bridges, MT Aloha Beastie Supporters, I always thought it was a "Daemon" not a Devil. Anyway if you really want to drive the critics nuts send them to our website and scroll to the bottom. We have a Wahine ( Hawaiian Female) daemon as well as Beastie on there. http://hawaiidakine.com ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 22:39:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6423B16A405 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit.lizardhill.com (kermit.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A04C13C468 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from ip72-193-85-114.lv.lv.cox.net ([72.193.85.114] helo=mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HRFeS-00047L-GQ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:39:28 -0700 From: "Don O'Neil" To: , "'FreeBSD Questions'" Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:39:24 -0700 Message-ID: <002301c765c0$73aa8630$0700020a@mickey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: AcdlwHNu+niGbYC2RkmPY7xcGwAUIw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Cc: Subject: Exim 4.66 Causing Kernel Panics? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:39:29 -0000 Anyone aware of a reason why a fresh build/install of exim 4.66 would cause kernel panics and reboots on my FreeBSD 6.1 machine? My machine, just out of the blue this morning, started rebooting every 3 minutes.... I narrowed it down to exim I think... As long as I never started up exim 4.66 the machine didn't have the problem... But as soon as I started it up, whammo... Panic and reboot. I've since rolled back to 4.63 and the problem seems to be resolved at least for the moment. The strangest thing is that I upgraded to 4.66 several days ago and the problem didn't show up until this morning. I'm not 100% sure the problem is exim but that's the only thing I could narrow it down to. Perhaps there is a new exim bug/exploit that I just didn't get hit with until today? I deleted the message queue just in case it was corrupt. ANY ideas from anyone as to what could be causing this (hardware perhaps?) would be appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 22:42:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9952016A407 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8095513C457 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521511A4D81; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 92CF251D06; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:42:08 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Don O'Neil Message-ID: <20070313224208.GA14266@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <002301c765c0$73aa8630$0700020a@mickey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002301c765c0$73aa8630$0700020a@mickey> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: exim-users@exim.org, 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Exim 4.66 Causing Kernel Panics? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:42:09 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 03:39:24PM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote: > Anyone aware of a reason why a fresh build/install of exim 4.66 would cause > kernel panics and reboots on my FreeBSD 6.1 machine? It shouldn't, of course. Please follow up with the panic in the usual way (developers handbook, PR, etc) Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 22:57:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56EE16A408 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail47.e.nsc.no (mail47.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AC813C468 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [84.202.201.189] (084202201189.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.201.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail47.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l2DMvhXX012990 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:57:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F72C49.8030706@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:57:13 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <200703131634.38837.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6D4D5.3010509@planet.nl> <200703132043.03737.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F70CC1.4010604@planet.nl> <45F70F97.9020300@hier7.com> <45F713C2.3080809@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <45F713C2.3080809@planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:57:45 -0000 hxc@planet.nl wrote: > Chris Slothouber wrote: >> What version of FreeBSD are you currently running. Sorry for pressing the point, but it seems you have not yet told us which version of FreeBSD you are running. > /Darn this looks pretty complicated :-P In that case, it may be simpler to just back up a few directories and install the latest version from scratch. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 23:00:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BD916A408 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from compara@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E04E13C46A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from compara@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so2112431wxc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:00:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qS5tigBWfs+eAEnju9vuCuQ3M6SDeVC8NmP45jSBYMR5KNr8re3tqzRiJpXPrh3J7ipzRebKFqwvBvB/7BfJwXMPlHYPdAUYK0tUIpt0M5Uyiq239EmUsZx13suPtad6QKjGb3yMCC1TP+QWkJPcSt5efa1Njyc4LdW7hV8laSM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=WN8Tbh7Y1QVCaT7wRi4T7HPWlfZvHq6W11T+oQ9Z7d83PWDASwXQoEeGXb9DArqGV08HliRpHV6+Qs77oLh/YPQzapsi6XwbqfiDpgroY7KjnrPjveK3HNzfljkiI46oo1bpog9dqEe7RegXJl2niZu4RXivbYjg2I+O+xbx3h4= Received: by 10.90.30.20 with SMTP id d20mr6632706agd.1173825334350; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.94.12 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <40405920703131535p5a2a24fan39eb3d8c7cdce35a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:35:34 -0400 From: "Sung Park" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Wireless Bridge in FreeBSD 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:00:33 -0000 I'm having trouble to bridge two wireless card which is Atheros AR5213A in FreeBSD 6.1. I try to make transparent bridge in these two wireless card. I compiled BRIDGE in kernel and I put net.link.ether.bridge=1 net.link.ether.bridge_cfg=*ath0*,*ath1* net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1 in sysctl.conf. Following diagram is what I did it. (192.168.0.1)Ath0----Ath0,Ath1(192.168.0.2)----Ath0(192.168.0.100) Left unit is wireless router. Middle unit is transparent bridge. Right unit is client. I set up like this. Ath0 of left unit is AP. Ath0 of middle unit is Station. Ath1 of middle unit is AP. Ath0 of right unit is Station. I can ping from 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.2 but I can't ping from 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.1. I tested wired LAN bridge with same configuration. It works well. Anyone has idea about this or has same problem. Please, help me. Any kind of information will save me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 23:06:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4277616A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redchin@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC3913C44C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redchin@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so2633171nfc for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:06:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=g+WWZPULhR7XR3GN4lVrl7VlLiN4YYo+05FoT432ffGMXW4lX30sfwwgwio2Be65bQMbEOrWnDaBfkM/N/1m8GAiqmida9WiHe7t8gJW/aJATLMBlaBhL/BSdLCFxIUY7tbveFm0wKsNpPzcY17b6q/kGJeF/pWtBesLvkGYKtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Q6mcLKIo8r8lFObyOwI9iitdb+zpE1r0QxtOsKFfwkfHkhekYy3W1L5gV1xTismGPWPZPBejgYLVgKkHvpLqXgzZo2rYSaX0fCrr3UbbDEQvi47clVxm41BPw7YdB+SdTSiQbfX4Bgp5b/L5Bvuzag5xpTSeeMFCw/SwlHgPcGw= Received: by 10.78.185.16 with SMTP id i16mr659472huf.1173827207169; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.119.10 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1d3ed48c0703131606y58052fffw24a8f98e07eb4161@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:06:47 -0700 From: "Kevin Downey" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <40405920703131535p5a2a24fan39eb3d8c7cdce35a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <40405920703131535p5a2a24fan39eb3d8c7cdce35a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Wireless Bridge in FreeBSD 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:06:58 -0000 On 3/13/07, Sung Park wrote: > I'm having trouble to bridge two wireless card which is Atheros AR5213A in > FreeBSD 6.1. I try to make transparent bridge in these two wireless card. > > I compiled BRIDGE in kernel and I put > > net.link.ether.bridge=1 > net.link.ether.bridge_cfg=*ath0*,*ath1* > net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1 > > in sysctl.conf. > > Following diagram is what I did it. > > (192.168.0.1)Ath0----Ath0,Ath1(192.168.0.2)----Ath0(192.168.0.100) > > Left unit is wireless router. Middle unit is transparent bridge. Right unit > is client. I set up like this. Ath0 of left unit is AP. Ath0 of middle > unit is Station. Ath1 of middle unit is AP. Ath0 of right unit is Station. > I can ping from 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.2 but I can't ping from > 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.1. > > I tested wired LAN bridge with same configuration. It works well. > > Anyone has idea about this or has same problem. Please, help me. Any kind of > information will save me. My understanding is that because of how the 802.11 is designed, this sort of setup is not possible using ethernet bridging code(if_bridge and friends) if you are using infrastructure mode and a-hoc mode is kind of slow. WDS may be waht you are looking for but I don't know if FreeBSD supports it yet.. -- The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 23:40:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D633D16A400 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rloefgren@forethought.net) Received: from mzpi5.forethought.net (mzpi5.forethought.net [216.241.36.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B014313C45E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rloefgren@forethought.net) Received: from 206-124-7-199.denver.dsl.forethought.net ([206.124.7.199] helo=auden.jmla.com) by mz3.forethought.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.51) id 1HRGbD-0000S9-2i; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:40:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:41:53 -0600 (MDT) From: rloefgren@forethought.net X-X-Sender: rloef@auden.jmla.com To: Old Ranger In-Reply-To: <200703131339.01492.ranger@oldpathsbaptistchurch.org> Message-ID: <20070313173903.H1923@auden.jmla.com> References: <8a0028260703131234w4834e000o6151316ddb0b492c@mail.gmail.com> <200703131339.01492.ranger@oldpathsbaptistchurch.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:40:12 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Old Ranger wrote: > Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman complain to me about having a > "devil" image on our church website. Nothing is more complete than the delusion that beauty equals goodness. - Tolstoy r From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 00:02:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9B916A401; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE7F13C43E; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by math.missouri.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2DNXHUj002391; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:33:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from localhost (stephen@localhost) by math.missouri.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id l2DNXFWK002388; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:33:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:33:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith To: Doug Ambrisko In-Reply-To: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> Message-ID: <20070313183135.P13138@math.missouri.edu> References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Kip Macy , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:02:04 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Doug Ambrisko wrote: > Kip Macy writes: > | Please be very careful. The only real alternative (Intel comes and > | goes) is Nvidia whose driver is binary-only for i386 (no amd64 > | support) and has a history for being notoriously buggy. I only buy ATI > | because of the problems I keep seeing people have with the Nvidia > | driver. I have a friend who has basically abandoned his dual-head > | Nvidia card due to recurring issues. > > One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, > whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati > since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean towards > Nvidia :-( I used to find nvidia drivers very buggy, but the recent drivers have greatly impressed me. Stephen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 00:15:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A2316A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E80913C45A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 36933 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2007 00:15:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6vTMNh3eFIx59nRW+Q3aJxTGbGTRlSyBeKk07JKsPjssGRoQ1i7NFrKD1BVgUJnYJ6Y10Ik2nOsF/5w/qpAtwqPsTcxxJA+cxgRraRzhx19Cur5zqHJLyUtLFVBuDe5SHltA0P9wDuFA836mnIJV4qnHyt1Fb8uAAfM8C6c1ErU= ; Message-ID: <20070314001558.36931.qmail@web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Ve.qnjYVM1lFouZWHzKXWff25VHLFm4PZxGp0dNtp2Le_t8dNvEzs4RhDdLnHeyu4fhQgoH9ypy.nfASl9uyYrMGWuSNVxckeb7p4hrXUNhskF5HWy4prVqQ79up0FtbFGxBabwqUiI0JsA- Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:15:58 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:15:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: rloefgren@forethought.net, Old Ranger In-Reply-To: <20070313173903.H1923@auden.jmla.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:15:59 -0000 --- rloefgren@forethought.net wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Old Ranger wrote: > > > Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman > complain to me about having a > > "devil" image on our church website. > > Nothing is more complete than the delusion > that beauty equals goodness. > > - Tolstoy I think it needs to be clarified that "beastie" is Not a devil. Beastie was aptly created to represent a Daemon. Simply correct them that it is not a devil or demon but a Daemon. >From Wikipedia: "Many people equate the word daemon with the word demon, implying some kind of Satanic connection between UNIX and the underworld. This is an egregious misunderstanding. Daemon is actually a much older form of demon; daemons have no particular bias towards good or evil, but rather serve to help define a person's character or personality. The ancient Greeks' concept of a personal daemon was similar to the modern concept of a guardian angel --- eudaemonia is the state of being helped or protected by a kindly spirit. As a rule, UNIX systems seem to be infested with both daemons and demons." (p403) Nicole The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 00:17:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FF016A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B56E13C46E for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 59421 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2007 00:17:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=n1skrrx2XYsxkEx94+P3lNK4G/xrQRWSUD6uPkFAGWquG/CSO6pWm0Ko07EMjNeGh5efCaN/OHJUje0CeUq7E8ZxpovAOHsCkrqnC8zSJc0tDHX4nyakTcKvdlcsRk0oCTWhawEIJRDQlfKTp8U0oeZkgxrUG6Gb2MCmJtHDy+w= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2007 00:17:48 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 6IfVTg4VM1kA0KPoBpAF8.V70yR6fcN4oBQvDoahMe678dtuzfsm4feoFmx8qlCIKF5n6EZXf5a2sGZfUmd8FTBe66Y0O4uGtBdZ5LZ2SJ0eJEIytFuXxOKjL8J9llIKcr6qU_qRudrPPxRryink.d5rNQ-- In-Reply-To: <20070313011458.0f3534fd@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> <20070312170530.65898c23@gumby.homeunix.com> <9b8f6952375affce2f85577c9c2792b6@prodigy.net> <20070313011458.0f3534fd@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <493e2590c7f615d9fb9db209919e147d@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jekillen Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:17:44 -0800 To: RW X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:17:51 -0000 On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:14 PM, RW wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:36:41 -0800 > jekillen wrote: > >> >> On Mar 12, 2007, at 9:05 AM, RW wrote: >> >>> The important thing is really your reverse DNS, if you have control >>> of it and looks like a real server name, e.g. mail.example.com, >>> you can stay off the dynamic lists. It doesn't help to have a >>> static address if your reverse dns looks like 12-43-545-example.net >>> >> >> Thank you for your reply; >> One of my machines (the one I use all the time and use to send and >> receive >> e-mai) does have an ISP assigned name. But the others are FQDN's that >> I have registered. One even has .net as the top level domain and that >> is one I am planning on using for the mail server. >> > > Just as long as you understand the distinction between forward and > reverse DNS. Based on the whois record for for your IP address, at the > moment you appear to have the following reverse DNS for the address > range 75.7.236.224 - 75.7.236.231: > > $ for i in `jot 8 224` ; do dig +short -x 75.7.236.$i ; done > adsl-75-7-236-224.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. > adsl-75-7-236-225.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. > adsl-75-7-236-226.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. > adsl-75-7-236-227.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. > adsl-75-7-236-228.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. > adsl-75-7-236-229.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. > adsl-75-7-236-230.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. > adsl-75-7-236-231.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. > OK, It appears that it is the ISPs name servers who are responding. When I call up my sights I get to the machines they are on according to my present DNS setup. try www.brushandbard.com Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 00:27:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73D316A405 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C86D13C44B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from dagobah.vindaloo.com (dagobah.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CAA5CA1; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.vindaloo.com (localhost.vindaloo.com [IPv6:::1]) by dagobah.vindaloo.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2E00Wt2001870; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:00:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) From: Christopher Sean Hilton To: Marcelo Maraboli In-Reply-To: <45F57936.3030601@usm.cl> References: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> <45F57936.3030601@usm.cl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso8859-1 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:00:31 -0400 Message-Id: <1173830431.1588.34.camel@dagobah.vindaloo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: John L , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:27:46 -0000 On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 12:00 -0400, Marcelo Maraboli wrote: > > I agree..... callbacks are not enough, you can reach a > false conclusion, that´s why I use SPF along with callbacks... > > on the same message, my MX concludes: > > "you are sending email "from chad@shire.net", but shire.net > says YOUR IP address is not allowed to send email on behalf > of that domain, therefore YOU ARE FAKE/FORGED" ..---> reject > > regards, > I'm not sure what you mean by callbacks but if that involves talking to mx.example.com and trying to figure out if cmdr.sinclair@example.com is a valid address go ahead. I would consider a mailserver that answers that question a security risk as it is freely giving away information about your domain without notifying you. For a long time my mx servers would answer any such question in the affirmative regardless of whether or not the mail account existed. As the above poster says SPF is the way to go. SPF gives the receiving MTA a mechanism to vet inbound mail. For any combination of and there are three possible results from an SPF check: The server is allowed to send mail for the domain; The server is not allowed to send mail for the domain; And I cannot tell because the owner of the domain hasn't published an SPF record. The only problem with SPF is that it's not more widely implemented so the third response is sadly more common than the first two. -- Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 00:30:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F216C16A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from an-out-f130.google.com (an-out-f130.google.com [209.85.132.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8412313C43E for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: by an-out-f130.google.com with SMTP id c18so288601ana for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.251.9 with SMTP id y9mr423088qbh.1173830680012; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.51.13 with SMTP id d13mr1632537pyk.1173830679941; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.232]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id z53si1842046pyg.2007.03.13.17.04.39; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mazhitie+caf_=freebsdfree.linuxsir=blogger.com@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.232 as permitted sender) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so2637464wra for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.75.1 with SMTP id x1mr2683180waa.1173830679283; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:04:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-To: freebsdfree.linuxsir@blogger.com X-Forwarded-For: mazhitie@gmail.com freebsdfree.linuxsir@blogger.com Delivered-To: mazhitie@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.110.20 with SMTP id i20cs248720wac; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.42.16 with SMTP id p16mr2613536wxp.1173830677154; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q34si8144016wrq.2007.03.13.17.04.35; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org designates 69.147.83.53 as permitted sender) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [69.147.83.54]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2BE11313; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5B016A535; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9B916A401; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE7F13C43E; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by math.missouri.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2DNXHUj002391; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:33:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from localhost (stephen@localhost) by math.missouri.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id l2DNXFWK002388; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:33:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:33:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith To: freebsdfree.linuxsir@alpha.blogger.com In-Reply-To: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> Message-ID: <14631977.861173830679997.JavaMail.blogger-tech@eheo16.prod.google.com> References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Kip Macy , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:30:38 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Doug Ambrisko wrote: > Kip Macy writes: > | Please be very careful. The only real alternative (Intel comes and > | goes) is Nvidia whose driver is binary-only for i386 (no amd64 > | support) and has a history for being notoriously buggy. I only buy ATI > | because of the problems I keep seeing people have with the Nvidia > | driver. I have a friend who has basically abandoned his dual-head > | Nvidia card due to recurring issues. > > One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, > whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati > since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean towards > Nvidia :-( I used to find nvidia drivers very buggy, but the recent drivers have greatly impressed me. Stephen _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 01:09:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2930A16A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:09:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew-freebsd@areilly.bpc-users.org) Received: from qsrv01sl.mx.bigpond.com (qsrv01sl.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.92.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3C113C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew-freebsd@areilly.bpc-users.org) Received: from oaamta05sl.mx.bigpond.com ([144.132.228.157]) by omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070313234636.MOSJ25724.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta05sl.mx.bigpond.com> for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:46:36 +0000 Received: from areilly.bpa.nu ([144.132.228.157]) by oaamta05sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070313234636.XWXS24039.oaamta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@areilly.bpa.nu> for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:46:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 44622 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2007 23:43:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO duncan.reilly.home) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 23:43:12 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:43:12 +1100 From: Andrew Reilly To: Doug Ambrisko Message-ID: <20070314104312.57354947@duncan.reilly.home> In-Reply-To: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; amd64-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:32:39 +0000 Cc: Nikolas, Kip Macy , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:09:11 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) Doug Ambrisko wrote: > One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, > whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati > since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean towards > Nvidia :-( Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a G400 or the like), but it's been a long time... (I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...) 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:29:45 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) Doug Ambrisko wrote: > One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, > whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati > since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean towards > Nvidia :-( Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a G400 or the like), but it's been a long time... (I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...) Cheers, -- Andrew _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 01:45:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9E816A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C13F13C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2E1j0rk013991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:45:01 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.42] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2E1ixvO008134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:44:59 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:44:56 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.13.183434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:45:01 -0000 On Mar 13, 2007, at 4:43 PM, Andrew Reilly wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) > Doug Ambrisko wrote: >> One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, >> whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati >> since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean towards >> Nvidia :-( > > Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards > that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of > open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer > system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. > > Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a > G400 or the like), but it's been a long time... > > (I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv > driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...) > > Cheers, > > -- > Andrew Crud.. should have known that ATI would close the majority of their source / specs once AMD bought them up. The funny thing is that in the past ATI was very open-source friendly I heard, and better than nVidia. That may soon change now. Having owned 2 nVidia cards and using them with unix though, I don't see why people are having such a hard time getting the proprietary drivers running. Then again I don't use their bleeding edge cards, so I can't say how well those are supported under freebsd with their drivers. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 02:11:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E017916A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA72913C44C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HRIxr-000DTb-VE; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:11:44 -0600 In-Reply-To: <1173830431.1588.34.camel@dagobah.vindaloo.com> References: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> <45F57936.3030601@usm.cl> <1173830431.1588.34.camel@dagobah.vindaloo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <30DC016D-CA46-44D1-A12D-00BDD723A71D@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:11:42 -0600 To: Christopher Sean Hilton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Marcelo Maraboli , User Questions Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:11:45 -0000 On Mar 13, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 12:00 -0400, Marcelo Maraboli wrote: > >> >> I agree..... callbacks are not enough, you can reach a >> false conclusion, that=B4s why I use SPF along with callbacks... >> >> on the same message, my MX concludes: >> >> "you are sending email "from chad@shire.net", but shire.net >> says YOUR IP address is not allowed to send email on behalf >> of that domain, therefore YOU ARE FAKE/FORGED" ..---> reject >> >> regards, >> > > I'm not sure what you mean by callbacks but if that involves =20 > talking to > mx.example.com and trying to figure out if =20 > cmdr.sinclair@example.com is > a valid address go ahead. I would consider a mailserver that answers > that question a security risk as it is freely giving away information > about your domain without notifying you. For a long time my mx servers > would answer any such question in the affirmative regardless of =20 > whether > or not the mail account existed. Address verification callbacks take various forms, but the way exim =20 does it by default is to attempt to start a DSN delivery to the =20 address and if the RCPT TO is accepted it is affirmative. It is not =20 usually use VRFY. Most address verification is done by attempting to =20= start some sort of delivery to the address. > > As the above poster says SPF is the way to go. SPF gives the receiving > MTA a mechanism to vet inbound mail. For any combination of server> and there are three possible =20 > results > from an SPF check: The server is allowed to send mail for the domain; > The server is not allowed to send mail for the domain; And I cannot =20= > tell > because the owner of the domain hasn't published an SPF record. The =20= > only > problem with SPF is that it's not more widely implemented so the third > response is sadly more common than the first two. I believe it also breaks when you have forwards. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 03:19:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB7D16A404 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE87913C45A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6013C1F77E0; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:19:39 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: U64f4P87Az+fH6ujsQO8ICVqRwiNkr6LM6ud0Z0CZ3Il 1173842379 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2376B32581; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:19:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <002301c765c0$73aa8630$0700020a@mickey> References: <002301c765c0$73aa8630$0700020a@mickey> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <225794E1-57CE-4223-8B06-8B8840DB88CE@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:19:34 -0500 To: Don O'Neil X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: exim-users@exim.org, 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Exim 4.66 Causing Kernel Panics? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:19:45 -0000 On Mar 13, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Don O'Neil wrote: > Anyone aware of a reason why a fresh build/install of exim 4.66 > would cause > kernel panics and reboots on my FreeBSD 6.1 machine? > > My machine, just out of the blue this morning, started rebooting > every 3 > minutes.... I narrowed it down to exim I think... As long as I > never started > up exim 4.66 the machine didn't have the problem... But as soon as > I started > it up, whammo... Panic and reboot. I'm running exim 4.66 on FreeBSD 6.2 without problems. This probably doesn't really help you much, but it should let you know that the problem isn't universal. Of course my instance of exim isn't actually doing anything at the moment, which might have something to do with it. -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 03:24:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B7F16A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit.lizardhill.com (kermit.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DD813C468 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from ip72-193-85-114.lv.lv.cox.net ([72.193.85.114] helo=mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HRK6e-0007r3-V0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:24:53 -0700 From: "Don O'Neil" To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:24:50 -0700 Message-ID: <007701c765e8$5306c880$0700020a@mickey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: Acdl6FLG6nvPsMd4SXCnuDmtuzHnpA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Subject: Upgrading from FreeBSD 6.1-Stable to Latest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:24:53 -0000 What is the _easiest_ way to upgrade from a FreeBSD 6.1-stable install to a 6.2-stable install? I can't run freebsd-update because it doesn't know about -stable, and I'd prefer to avoid doing a buildworld because of the time. Any suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 03:30:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F391016A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DFC13C457 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from [172.24.144.91] (dhcp-1b.vindaloo.com [172.24.144.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B618F5CA1; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45F76C4B.5070905@vindaloo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:30:19 -0400 From: Christopher Sean Hilton User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> <45F57936.3030601@usm.cl> <1173830431.1588.34.camel@dagobah.vindaloo.com> <30DC016D-CA46-44D1-A12D-00BDD723A71D@shire.net> In-Reply-To: <30DC016D-CA46-44D1-A12D-00BDD723A71D@shire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Marcelo Maraboli , User Questions Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:30:25 -0000 Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Mar 13, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > >> On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 12:00 -0400, Marcelo Maraboli wrote: >> >>> >>> I agree..... callbacks are not enough, you can reach a >>> false conclusion, that´s why I use SPF along with callbacks... >>> >>> on the same message, my MX concludes: >>> >>> "you are sending email "from chad@shire.net", but shire.net >>> says YOUR IP address is not allowed to send email on behalf >>> of that domain, therefore YOU ARE FAKE/FORGED" ..---> reject >>> >>> regards, >>> >> >> I'm not sure what you mean by callbacks but if that involves talking to >> mx.example.com and trying to figure out if cmdr.sinclair@example.com is >> a valid address go ahead. I would consider a mailserver that answers >> that question a security risk as it is freely giving away information >> about your domain without notifying you. For a long time my mx servers >> would answer any such question in the affirmative regardless of whether >> or not the mail account existed. > > Address verification callbacks take various forms, but the way exim does > it by default is to attempt to start a DSN delivery to the address and > if the RCPT TO is accepted it is affirmative. It is not usually use > VRFY. Most address verification is done by attempting to start some > sort of delivery to the address. > I'm assuming that DSN is Delivery Service Notification or return receipt. If it is or if it somehow relies on the ability to deliver a message via smtp to *@example.com then I don't see how it prevents spam. >> >> As the above poster says SPF is the way to go. SPF gives the receiving >> MTA a mechanism to vet inbound mail. For any combination of > server> and there are three possible results >> from an SPF check: The server is allowed to send mail for the domain; >> The server is not allowed to send mail for the domain; And I cannot tell >> because the owner of the domain hasn't published an SPF record. The only >> problem with SPF is that it's not more widely implemented so the third >> response is sadly more common than the first two. > > I believe it also breaks when you have forwards. > I'm not sure that I would classify it as breakage. I always confuse these but there is a problem with SPF vis-a-vis remails or old style bounces of messages. The delivery from address specified as mail-from in the smtp dialog and the envelope from specified in the mail's headers will differ. And the one that SPF checks is the smtp dialog mail-from address. So a spammer can setup SPF for his domain and mail will false positive in the SPF check but the MTA can add a header which lists the original sender. E.g. jrandomspammer@spamsource.com lists himself as the sender of a mail and lists smtp.spamsource.com as a valid source of mail for his domain. He crafts an email with a from address of curry@example.com and fires is off to you. I'm fairly certain that my MTA, postfix, will add an Original-Sender: jrandomspammer@spamsource.com header to any message that comes in under these circumstances. I wouldn't be surprised if my Bayes filter is keying on this header. In the end internet email is built on a flawed protocol. It'd be great if you could verify that the letter that you got passed was really sent by the person who name was really sent in the mail-from part of the smtp handshake but you can't. For my part I neither want to burden people who want to send me email with the chore of having to vet themselves nor wade through excessive amounts of spam. I greylist with spamd and then filter with spamassassin and it's Bayes filter. I find that this combination works very well at negligible cost to people who want to send me mail. YMMV -- Chris __o "All I was doing was trying to get home from work." _`\<,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*)___________________________________________________________ Christopher Sean Hilton chris | at | vindaloo.com pgp: f5:30:0a:54:e1:55:76:9b:1f:47:0b:07:e9:75:0e:14 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 03:37:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2076916A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096A213C44B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HRKIP-000GsJ-DE; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:37:01 -0600 In-Reply-To: <45F76C4B.5070905@vindaloo.com> References: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> <45F57936.3030601@usm.cl> <1173830431.1588.34.camel@dagobah.vindaloo.com> <30DC016D-CA46-44D1-A12D-00BDD723A71D@shire.net> <45F76C4B.5070905@vindaloo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:37:00 -0600 To: Christopher Sean Hilton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Marcelo Maraboli , User Questions Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:37:02 -0000 On Mar 13, 2007, at 9:30 PM, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >> On Mar 13, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: >>> On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 12:00 -0400, Marcelo Maraboli wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I agree..... callbacks are not enough, you can reach a >>>> false conclusion, that=B4s why I use SPF along with callbacks... >>>> >>>> on the same message, my MX concludes: >>>> >>>> "you are sending email "from chad@shire.net", but shire.net >>>> says YOUR IP address is not allowed to send email on behalf >>>> of that domain, therefore YOU ARE FAKE/FORGED" ..---> reject >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>> >>> I'm not sure what you mean by callbacks but if that involves =20 >>> talking to >>> mx.example.com and trying to figure out if =20 >>> cmdr.sinclair@example.com is >>> a valid address go ahead. I would consider a mailserver that answers >>> that question a security risk as it is freely giving away =20 >>> information >>> about your domain without notifying you. For a long time my mx =20 >>> servers >>> would answer any such question in the affirmative regardless of =20 >>> whether >>> or not the mail account existed. >> Address verification callbacks take various forms, but the way =20 >> exim does it by default is to attempt to start a DSN delivery to =20 >> the address and if the RCPT TO is accepted it is affirmative. It =20 >> is not usually use VRFY. Most address verification is done by =20 >> attempting to start some sort of delivery to the address. > > I'm assuming that DSN is Delivery Service Notification yes > or return receipt. mp > If it is or if it somehow relies on the ability to deliver a =20 > message via smtp to *@example.com then I don't see how it prevents =20 > spam. If the mail says it is from chris@vindaloo.com but I cannot send a =20 DSN to chris@vindaloo.com then the account is most likely bogus =20 sender and is refused. It works wonders for spam. DSN has a specific definition -- look in the RFCs as I don't remember =20= which RFC it is offhand. But you are supposed to always accept a DSN =20= from <> as part of the RFCs Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 04:05:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAFF16A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6292413C43E for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD641F87DE; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:05:51 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: Q3JLVUS7mPJotGlzjeBCrUSX1hjUyGUxAS4BOTbwr0jD 1173845151 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD1E32574; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:05:50 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <493e2590c7f615d9fb9db209919e147d@prodigy.net> References: <6660f1280703110845w52b8babapf2814da0ac6424ae@mail.gmail.com> <56A5B5E4-5644-4C50-9346-5EC9A372C3DB@goldmark.org> <20070312170530.65898c23@gumby.homeunix.com> <9b8f6952375affce2f85577c9c2792b6@prodigy.net> <20070313011458.0f3534fd@gumby.homeunix.com> <493e2590c7f615d9fb9db209919e147d@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7CB78BD9-21C4-4372-B421-6D7A26CF3695@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:05:48 -0500 To: jekillen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:05:51 -0000 On Mar 13, 2007, at 8:17 PM, jekillen wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:14 PM, RW wrote: >> Just as long as you understand the distinction between forward and >> reverse DNS. Based on the whois record for for your IP address, at >> the >> moment you appear to have the following reverse DNS for the address >> range 75.7.236.224 - 75.7.236.231: >> >> $ for i in `jot 8 224` ; do dig +short -x 75.7.236.$i ; done >> adsl-75-7-236-224.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >> adsl-75-7-236-225.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >> adsl-75-7-236-226.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >> adsl-75-7-236-227.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >> adsl-75-7-236-228.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >> adsl-75-7-236-229.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >> adsl-75-7-236-230.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >> adsl-75-7-236-231.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. > OK, It appears that it is the ISPs name servers who > are responding. When I call up my sights I get to the > machines they are on according to my present > DNS setup. But that is what the public sees. If (which I strongly doubt) your own internal nameservers give a different result to $ dig +short -x 75.7.236.224 then it still makes no difference to the rest of the world which, when doing a *reverse* lookup on your IP address doesn't get anything that looks like your domain name. > try www.brushandbard.com That's not the question. RW was (correctly) talking about *reverse* DNS, aka DNS PTR records. That is we are looking at the translation *from* number *to* name. If you look up one of my statically IP addresses $ dig +short -x 72.64.118.115 n115.ewd.goldmark.org. you get that instead of static-72-64-118-115.dllstx.fios.verizon.net It took me many unpleasant hours on the phone to Verizon to get the reverse look up the way it is now. I spent those hours on the phone specifically because I did want to run my own direct to MX mailserver. My mailserver sends out mail as being from lists.shepard-families.org (in the envelope and header froms) but identifies itself as gecko.ewd.goldmark.org a regular look up of either of those returns 72.64.118.115 A reverse of that turns up n115.ewd.goldmark.org which when you do a regular lookup gets you 72.64.118.115 So my machine is claiming to be in goldmark.org, and doing a reverse lookup on its IP address points you back to goldmark.org. So that strongly suggests that when it identifies itself as goldmark.org, it is doing so with the consent not only of the person who controls the goldmark.org domain, but also with the consent of the person (in this case Verizon) who controls the IP address of the machine. If mail from my machine failed this IP --> name1 --> IP --> name2 --> IP test (the test being that name1 and name2 are in the same domain and that "IP" is the same IP throughout), then mail from my machine would get a high spam score by most systems. I really don't want to sound harsh with this, but if you aren't fully clear on concepts like reverse and forward DNS and authoritative servers for each, you really should be looking for a solution that doesn't involve you running a direct to MX system. You can still run your own mailserver which you can integrate with your webserver, but have it relay all of the outgoing mail to your ISP's SMTP host which is set up for the purpose. Also if you post your queries to the postfix mailing list (I think I recall that you were using postfix) you will probably find lots of pointers to information explaining about configuration. "The Book of Postfix" (ISBN 1-59327-001-1) has a good discussion of the need for other hosts being able to reverse resolve the IP of your mail hub. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 04:06:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C9F16A406 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:06:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B840B13C46E for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2E42xTV062156; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:02:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2E42xne062155; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:02:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:02:59 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Aitor San Juan Message-ID: <20070314040259.GA62090@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <45F57936.3030601@usm.cl> <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049EE7@bb04.bolsabilbao.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049EE7@bb04.bolsabilbao.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing a second hard disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:06:19 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 06:05:16PM +0100, Aitor San Juan wrote: > Hi List, > > I am trying to install a secondary hard disk in a Intel-based PC > with FreeBSD 5.4 > > This secondary disk's capacity is 250 Gb. When I enter sysintall > to try to format it and create a slice, FreeBSD says that the > geometry of disk is not correct. I, then, type in the values detected > by the BIOS as suggested, but FreeBSD still complains that those > are not valid. FreeBSD sees the new disk as a disk of approx. 131 GB. > > So my question is: where is the problem? Is it that FreeBSD is not > able to recognise such a big disk capacity? > > Any hint, suggestion, or web link would be highly appreciated. So far, I have been successful in ignoring those warnings and just going ahead and doing the fdisk / bsdlabel / newfs. After that the warnings seem to stop and everything works OK. It makes me wonder why those messages still come out on new disks, if they aren't meaningful, bit I don't know the whole deal about it. Geometry seems to be virtual and the OS does its own thing once it gets out from under BIOS processing. /////jerry > > Thanks in advance > Aitor. > > > ************ LEGEZKO OHARRA / AVISO LEGAL / LEGAL ADVICE ************* > Mezu honek isilpeko informazioa gorde dezake, edo jabea duena, edota legez babestuta dagoena. Zuri zuzendua ez bada, bidali duenari esan eta ezabatu, inori berbidali edo gorde gabe, legeak debekatzen duelako mezuak erabiltzea baimenik gabe. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Este mensaje puede contener informaci?n confidencial, en propiedad o legalmente protegida. Si usted no es el destinatario, le rogamos lo comunique al remitente y proceda a borrarlo, sin reenviarlo ni conservarlo, ya que su uso no autorizado est? prohibido legalmente. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify it to the sender and delete without resending or backing it, as it is legally prohibited. > ************************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 04:09:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B812F16A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew-freebsd@areilly.bpc-users.org) Received: from omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com (omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.93.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2EE13C44B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew-freebsd@areilly.bpc-users.org) Received: from oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com ([144.132.228.157]) by omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070314040929.EGQE25724.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com> for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:09:29 +0000 Received: from areilly.bpa.nu ([144.132.228.157]) by oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070314040929.IAXH21236.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@areilly.bpa.nu> for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:09:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 48338 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2007 04:09:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO duncan.reilly.home) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Mar 2007 04:09:28 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:09:28 +1100 From: Andrew Reilly To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070314150928.2004950b@duncan.reilly.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; amd64-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Expected speed of firewire-attached drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:09:31 -0000 Hi there, I don't do a whole lot of benchmarking: mostly my computer's speed is "perfectly adequate", and working reliably is key. At the moment, though, I'm curious. I'm sitting here while I attempt to restore a file from a level-0 dump, and it's taking a while. The backup medium is one of those firewire-attached Maxtor 300G drives, but to make it interesting I compress the backup image with bzip2 (which keeps the file size down to about 16G). Dmesg.boot says that the drive is capable of 50MB/s, the firewire driver says nothing obvious about speed, except "invalid speed 7 (fixed to 3)." (details below). The motherboard is a relatively shiny Athlon X2-4400 NVidia-4 based system, so there ought to be oodles of compute grunt for this exercise, surely? Anyway, systat -vmstat says that da0 is doing about 40 128KB transfers per second, or about 5MB/s (actually a bit under), or 12% busy. One of the CPUs is pegged. Hmm, it's pegged running bzcat. That would be the bottleneck, then. OK, so I've answered my own question. Please consider this post informative or noise at your discretion: I'm going to post it anyway on the grounds that it might provoke some interesting discussion, and perhaps a suggestion for a less cpu-hungry compression algorithm (I guess I could try gzip for the next backup...) Cheers, from dmesg.boot: fwohci0: mem 0xf0004000-0xf00047ff,0xf0000000-0xf00 03fff irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci1 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:14:85:56:00:e6:80:b0 fwohci0: invalid speed 7 (fixed to 3). fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S800, 3 ports. fwohci0: Link S800, max_rec 4096 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:14:85:e6:80:b0 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:14:85:e6:80:b0 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 (me) firewire0: bus manager 1 (me) fwohci0: phy int ... da0 at sbp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device da0: 50.000MB/s transfers da0: 286188MB (586114704 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 36483C) -- Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 04:16:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4895316A405 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2014313C468 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2E4D92h062246; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:13:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2E4D9O6062245; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:13:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:13:09 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Adam Gerety Message-ID: <20070314041309.GA62216@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:16:24 -0000 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:58:22PM -0500, Adam Gerety wrote: > What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make > some stickers? I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker > that is just the Devil to put on my computers. Not planning to sell > them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution > to the effort. First of all, it is not a devil. It is a daemon. Look that up in an online dict. Second, the information on copyright and use has prominent links on the FreeBSD web page. ////jerry > > Thank you for your time and reply, > - Adam Gerety > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 05:37:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB33A16A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311CA13C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so474515ugh for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:37:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MQ3eX8uUB/tRiPLzpB0gFoHJd8novdoTUViOYQzIeiGvhZZA8OtsTt5Oh/PsBeArzjKksaiSmpNaFKUHQXEkVRasqjag9rhlf7u0aZrCvjYr8I+4AFk0CNz5g+AsJmAdCYeXXbcsw2FqSpZwZAKLggcbFfW/kT9PMu17sxIUeZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BjJW4dV1ruTBUlr+KQljA/ylg0t4s1mfVRGbmXMEeTkR3P9N6P8B8ZeknsugbNaWjXqNVYuJQSiza4i0oUDk0OsCbzMpUBO9oEpD73VPX4Y5mFFiBctP3sMp6c9JUnaQ1MGsJsjFRmlkLggMoBpuo8P9RFXidOBH+edlmD8IN3w= Received: by 10.114.171.1 with SMTP id t1mr2739578wae.1173850642016; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.148.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0703132237u1eb8ec62te6b7c8559f4cb935@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:37:21 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: "Nikolas Britton" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:37:26 -0000 On 3/13/07, Nikolas Britton wrote: > We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer > documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD > or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem. > > Here's the email address of AMD's president: dirk.meyer@amd.com > > Give him your two cents. > > > > On 3/12/07, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 05:10, Yann Golanski wrote: > > > I have an ATI Radeon X1950 Sapphire and I am trying to get X/FreeBSD > > > working with it. My system is a clean install of FreBSD. I've managed to > > > get VESA to "work" but cannot get much more than that. > > > > There is no open source support for this card (alas). It's VESA or fglrx. > > Since AMD/ATI doesn't make a native driver for FreeBSD, I only buy notebooks with nvidia, and I told my friends about this. We as FreeBSD users could write about this in our blogs and pages, which will widespread the word about the driver issues in better way, as long as more users aware of this, this will force AMD/ATI to look into the issue deeper, and work it out. This would be better than emailing the AMD CEO IMHO. -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 06:25:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AC116A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249B813C45D for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from admin.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1] helo=ipt.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HRMvD-000OOU-HB; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:25:15 +0300 Received: from bsam by ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HRMyh-00038Y-2v; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:28:51 +0300 To: "Don O'Neil" References: <007701c765e8$5306c880$0700020a@mickey> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:28:51 +0300 In-Reply-To: <007701c765e8$5306c880$0700020a@mickey> (Don O'Neil's message of "Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:24:50 -0700") Message-ID: <11920492@srv.sem.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 6.1-Stable to Latest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:25:17 -0000 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:24:50 -0700 Don O'Neil wrote: > What is the _easiest_ way to upgrade from a FreeBSD 6.1-stable install to a > 6.2-stable install? I can't run freebsd-update because it doesn't know about > -stable, and I'd prefer to avoid doing a buildworld because of the time. > Any suggestions? Get the apropriate CD iso image and do a binary upgrade: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/200703/ PS. I didn't do it myself, it's only an assumption. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 07:22:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1C316A402; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp3.clear.net.nz (smtp3.clear.net.nz [203.97.33.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28AA13C457; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (121-72-75-131.dsl.telstraclear.net [121.72.75.131]) by smtp3.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with ESMTP id <0JEV0034ZT4GOI30@smtp3.clear.net.nz>; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:07:35 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:07:26 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <499c70c0703132237u1eb8ec62te6b7c8559f4cb935@mail.gmail.com> To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Message-id: <45F79F2E.4060003@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <499c70c0703132237u1eb8ec62te6b7c8559f4cb935@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070313) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:22:38 -0000 Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > > Since AMD/ATI doesn't make a native driver for FreeBSD, I only buy > notebooks with nvidia, and I told my friends about this. > We as FreeBSD users could write about this in our blogs and pages, > which will widespread the word about the driver issues in better way, > as long as more users aware of this, this will force AMD/ATI to look > into the issue deeper, and work it out. > > This would be better than emailing the AMD CEO IMHO. > We could contact the ATI exec(s) too - pointing out that older ATI cards have support added by the Xorg developers and how helping them out with the newer ones can only result in increased ATI sales... got nothing to lose there I think! Cheers Mark P.s: currently use ATI 9550. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 07:43:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF2F16A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eps@anna.ana.com) Received: from anna.ana.com (anna.ana.com [208.69.41.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314CD13C44C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eps@anna.ana.com) Received: from anna.ana.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anna.ana.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2E7feSn010127 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eps@localhost) by anna.ana.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2E7fdIQ010125; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200703140741.l2E7fdIQ010125@anna.ana.com> From: "Eric P. Scott" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <<200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> References: Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:43:01 -0000 [Doug Ambrisko] >One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, And if the Nouveau project is successful, things could get very interesting indeed. ;-) -=EPS=- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 08:13:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C2716A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3160913C44C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so102131nfc for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:13:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=P59FdFZSrUoTx0k20kXci0wj2Mk9KJT2wnpqlYi/ZTqt8UzlrEaYJsFhD8H4CrOboRN5LYItwGL12T1LuK1Wi0CMB9/0+NYmaWQkBuraqfzGwbAdHsnaLONk3HWfeMs3XXp8nu41W9y3HHYRgHkyS/ZPdC2SB713hp7AL+MIuhE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=tlloJZEsNYFsygng6wwei7HoVLRdsCAeIE3WN78g5nOk4/UgvVC+yWaP3CrMJXTVnqZi7EVT2RDbcjrjVqVCR+HaSwRi4yJKg5GaGNlaW+ZuiLWphmxuEABdw1N1wY12gCByLLVjMfcp46l5GPcupyZga86AvWMZY9mfK/mnPhQ= Received: by 10.78.122.11 with SMTP id u11mr987028huc.1173859993215; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.122.3 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7dc029620703140113x167ede6fra813058632e77195@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:13:13 +0300 From: "Mike Barnard" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: NFS Mount error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:13:15 -0000 hi, hope you are all good. i have a FreeBSD NFS server serving two NFS mounts for mail and web servers. the server works fine and i can mount from it perfectly well. problem comes in when i boot the mail/web nfs client, it stops booting and gives the error 10.10.10.9:/mnt/mail not dismounted properly, run fsck manually or press ^D to continue booting or enter password to enter single usernode. if i hit ^D, it continues to boot, but remains almost in a forever state while 'mounting the NFS directories'. if i hit ^C, it continues to boot. when i log in and type mount, it has the NFS directory mounted. showmount -e show me the right directories and IP addresses allowed to mount those directories. is there something im missing/over-looking that leads to these hiccups. -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 09:07:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7233E16A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yann@raven.kierun.org) Received: from raven.kierun.org (raven.yorksj.ac.uk [193.61.234.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8B013C44C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yann@raven.kierun.org) Received: from yann by raven.kierun.org with local (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HROxB-000Gxg-BY; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:35:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:35:25 +0000 From: Yann Golanski To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070314083525.GA65136@kierun.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Sender: "Yann Golanski, University of York, +44(0)1904-433088" Cc: Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:07:41 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Nikolas Britton on Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 14:58:34 -0500 > We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer > documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD > or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem. It is not a problem but a marketing decision we know nothing about. I have seen Linux drivers, Windows drivers and Mac drivers from their site. I am sure that if we asked in a reasonable and polite fashion we could convince them to release the drivers for *BSD -- or make the Linux ones in such a way that they work on *BSD. =20 Hounding them is not going to help. It will harm our cause. > Give him your two cents. Please, do not do that. It will hinder. --=20 yann@kierun.org -=3D*=3D- www.kierun.= org PGP: 009D 7287 C4A7 FD4F 1680 06E4 F751 7006 9DE2 6318 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF97PN91FwBp3iYxgRAk4eAJ4mL6DxawXyIsLbA4+532jhpaZ3UACdH2Mq p4nxe0tze82+L4L/oGL31+Q= =fm8i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 09:40:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABD816A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B6313C4AE for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l2E9eLAQ053019 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:40:22 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45F7C31A.5010604@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:40:42 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Barnard References: <7dc029620703140113x167ede6fra813058632e77195@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7dc029620703140113x167ede6fra813058632e77195@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS Mount error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:40:46 -0000 Mike Barnard wrote: > hi, > > hope you are all good. i have a FreeBSD NFS server serving two NFS mounts > for mail and web servers. the server works fine and i can mount from it > perfectly well. problem comes in when i boot the mail/web nfs client, it > stops booting and gives the error > > 10.10.10.9:/mnt/mail not dismounted properly, run fsck manually or press ^D > to continue booting or enter password to enter single usernode. > > if i hit ^D, it continues to boot, but remains almost in a forever state > while 'mounting the NFS directories'. if i hit ^C, it continues to boot. > when i log in and type mount, it has the NFS directory mounted. > showmount -e > show me the right directories and IP addresses > allowed to mount those directories. > > is there something im missing/over-looking that leads to these hiccups. > My guess is a typo in /etc/fstab the line(s) should read something like ip.add.re.ss:/mount/point /mounted nfs rw 0 0 (note the sixth field which specifies if it should not be checked by fsck) Vince > > > > -- > Mike > > Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in > a million chances happen 99% of the time. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 09:42:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EBF16A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CA513C458 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l2DGUBqp038189; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <009901c7658c$d1d14c50$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Alexey Zakirov" , References: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:29:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: Re: Problem with VPN and LinkSYS BEFSX41 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:42:19 -0000 We had the same problem last year when we ran a tunnel between a Cisco 7200 running Cisco IOS and a BEF SX 41. Keep in mind that Cisco now owns Linksys. In short, the owners of Linksys obviously know that the Linksys product is garbage but they have not released a fix for it's firmware. I rechristened that particular model the BEF SUX 41. It seems to fit. Eventually the BEF burned up and I was rid of dealing with it. Hoo Boy the customer lost $50 that they spent on it!! Moral of the story: Crappy hardware does not a stable network make. While you probably won't want to give Linksys any further business, you should know that the Linksys RV042 is a vastly superior implementation of the same product. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexey Zakirov" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:13 AM Subject: Problem with VPN and LinkSYS BEFSX41 > Hello! > > Situation: FreeBSD 5.3-Release + pf + racoon at local end and LinkSys > BEFSX41 v2.1 firmware 1.52.9 at remote. > Lifetime of phase 1 and phase 2 is the same and equal 3600 sec. > Tunnel is getting up. I use setkey -D to SAD entries. There are 2 entries - > inbound and outbound. OK > When lifetime ends, there become 3 SAD entries - 1 outbound and 2 inbound. > Number of inbound SAD entries is growing until tunnel goes down. > > Please help me, what's the cause? > > Yours, > Alexey Zakirov > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 09:42:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C1016A408 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9425E13C459 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l2D6NBH7034791; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <007b01c76538$03b2ec60$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Brian J. Conway" , References: <20070310105759.6980f90e.bconway@clue4all.net> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:22:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:42:20 -0000 I have found with some of the intel MBs that the latest BIOS update actually causes trouble. Don't be afraid to try back-flashing to an older BIOS update. Intel has all the BIOS versions up on their site for each board. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian J. Conway" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:57 AM Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE > > I had exactly the same problem in my acpi-blacklisted motherboard. I > > disabled acpi and the errors vanished. In my case, this error was not > > related with NICs, but exclusively with the motherboard. > > Interesting. I hadn't thought of that, but I am using ACPI now where I > was not on 4.x. I'll give that a try next time it happens. I would have > hoped the motherboard would be up to par (Intel D845GVSR with the latest > BIOS - http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D845GVSR/index.htm), but > maybe not. Thanks. > > (Sorry for the bad threading, I'm off list and copying off the web > archive.) > > Brian J. Conway > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 10:09:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386EA16A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from optimus.centralmiss.com (ns.centralmiss.com [206.156.254.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D1713C469 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (adsl-072-148-013-213.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [72.148.13.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by optimus.centralmiss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032A12873E; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:40:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 847D761C42; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:40:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:40:19 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Andrew Reilly Message-ID: <20070314094019.GK56342@over-yonder.net> References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <20070314104312.57354947@duncan.reilly.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070314104312.57354947@duncan.reilly.home> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14-fullermd.3 (2007-02-12) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:09:34 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 10:43:12AM +1100 I heard the voice of Andrew Reilly, and lo! it spake thus: > > Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a G400 > or the like), but it's been a long time... I'm sitting on a G450 here. Works great. I've never heard anything bad about the 550 either, and it's a bit more capable. But then, the 550 is also like 6 years old now (and still >$100 new, and uncommon used), and none of the newer Matrox cards have info released either. Your choices for a late-model graphics card with released information for an open driver are limited to... ahh... well... no, not that one either... uh... -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 10:20:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2AD16A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from massimo@cedoc.mo.it) Received: from insomma.datacode.it (ip-174-86.sn2.eutelia.it [83.211.174.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD52F13C4CB for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:20:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from massimo@cedoc.mo.it) Received: from localhost (localhost.datacode.it [127.0.0.1]) by insomma.datacode.it (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E2BD2C92A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:49:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from insomma.datacode.it (localhost.datacode.it [127.0.0.1]) by insomma.datacode.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F4B2C90A; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:49:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from intanto (unknown [192.168.1.18]) by insomma.datacode.it (Postfix) with SMTP id 048542C906; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:49:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:49:07 +0100 From: Massimo Lusetti To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Message-Id: <20070314104907.8318dc62.massimo@cedoc.mo.it> In-Reply-To: <20070314094019.GK56342@over-yonder.net> References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <20070314104312.57354947@duncan.reilly.home> <20070314094019.GK56342@over-yonder.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Andrew Reilly , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:20:23 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:40:19 -0500 "Matthew D. Fuller" wrote: > I'm sitting on a G450 here. Works great. I've never heard anything > bad about the 550 either, and it's a bit more capable. But then, the > 550 is also like 6 years old now (and still >$100 new, and uncommon > used), and none of the newer Matrox cards have info released either. > Your choices for a late-model graphics card with released information > for an open driver are limited to... ahh... well... no, not that > one either... uh... Totally right! It's sad they're not on laptops. -- Massimo.run(); The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom. -- Justice Douglas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 10:39:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069E716A406 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asanjuan@bolsabilbao.es) Received: from correo-1.bolsabilbao.es (correo-1.bolsabilbao.es [212.8.77.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8131713C469 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asanjuan@bolsabilbao.es) Received: from correo_4.bolsabilbao.es ([10.33.5.204]) by correo-1.bolsabilbao.es with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:39:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:38:39 +0100 Message-ID: <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049F97@bb04.bolsabilbao.local> In-Reply-To: <20070314040259.GA62090@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Installing a second hard disk Thread-Index: Acdl7h4WT9BfDoUXQrywXEtB0CbDJQAKZIjQ From: "Aitor San Juan" To: Priority: normal Importance: normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2007 10:39:00.0295 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA06BD70:01C76624] X-ExchangeSecure-AntiSpam: valid(0) Subject: RE: Installing a second hard disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:39:02 -0000 Thanks all who answered so quickly. The PC's BIOS detects the complete capacity. The access mode was "auto", and I have changed it to "LBA", but the same result: FreeBSD still sees a disk (on ad2) capacity of 127 GB. The FreeBSD version installed is 5.4 Thus, I have installed the disk under Windows 2000, and behaves the same way. However Windows XP recognizes the full capacity. The disk is a Seagate IDE Ultra ATA disk. Unfortunately site www.48bitlba.com only offers help for Windows-based systems, and the tools are also for Windows-based OS. Anyway, I have ignored the warning regarding the geometry inaccuracy, done the following manually: fdisk -I /dev/ad2 bsdlabel -w /dev/ad2s1 newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a mkdir /mydata mount /dev/ad2s1a /mydata echo "/dev/ad2s1a /mydata ufs rw 2 2" >> /etc/fstab but for FreeBSD the disk's capacity is still 127 GB. The BIOS date is 21 Mar 2002. I've found out that there is a BIOS upgrade for the motherboard dated June 2002 (if I'm not wrong). So, will upgrading the BIOS solve this issue? Or will upgrading to FreeBSD 6.2 solve it instead? Thanks in advance for any hint or suggestion. Aitor -----Original message----- To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing a second hard disk > Hi List, >=20 > I am trying to install a secondary hard disk in a Intel-based PC > with FreeBSD 5.4 >=20 > This secondary disk's capacity is 250 Gb. When I enter sysintall > to try to format it and create a slice, FreeBSD says that the > geometry of disk is not correct. I, then, type in the values detected > by the BIOS as suggested, but FreeBSD still complains that those > are not valid. FreeBSD sees the new disk as a disk of approx. 131 GB. >=20 > So my question is: where is the problem? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:11:48 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything. Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts. Thanks so much.. 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Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 11:33:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8508216A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442A813C45B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so127602wxc for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:33:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MZMLXCcaIB4oOslPToRDB9ACKaNuzGeaAwaykQV6mn8lT7rkfXHAAhJLBvYm/d/Qg9vR3YhENCqXK6P8kO52Y106btOplG41JLk8TnIZbR1lE+7ZRAKZCmfQ0aQda4p+aYhjaPaz1+K4Mni+opzvSOqCuuGeDisA7lUzv56KfYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=evcPzk9wvE8oEonY/Fo6pThZ3wyoUGuP1EHKKyfchVbbzDgtsCny4VRansXzA1tCgxvq3RfHfV95hDOD67MZ/op+kGcuRiWojq4KcoPDpe8z74eY2tC8oN0iR8RZlUDkIKLbWyaHr3ufR/iBD26+9zHHSRQUSbWaUn3Qw4dsjug= Received: by 10.70.115.17 with SMTP id n17mr3538309wxc.1173872035559; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.14.15 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14989d6e0703140433t6fcdcccei9dc60b26bffc35bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:33:55 +0100 From: "Christian Walther" To: "bstitt@tsys.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need a good Unix script that.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:33:56 -0000 On 14/03/07, bstitt@tsys.com wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain > pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security > people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the > information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file > that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines > that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything. > > Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts. > You can use something like: cat yourfile | grep -v pattern >newfile If there are several patterns to be removed, use something like: cat yourfile | egrep -v "(pattern1|pattern2|pattern3|...)" >newfile HTH Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 11:35:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420B916A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E2E13C455 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from c-68-49-149-185.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([68.49.149.185] helo=schnarff.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HRRlA-000DNm-4X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:35:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 20499 invoked by uid 67); 14 Mar 2007 11:35:11 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.68 ([192.168.2.68]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:35:11 -0400 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 68.49.149.185 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: schnarff Message-ID: <20070314073511.k4e93l6kz4okw80c@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:35:11 -0400 From: alex@schnarff.com To: bstitt@tsys.com References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need a good Unix script that.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:35:13 -0000 Why not use Perl? It'd be as simple as: #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; open(IN, "$ARGV[0]") || die "Can't open $ARGV[0]: $!\n"; while () { print $_ unless ($_ =~ //); } close IN; Save this script as "filter.pl" (or whatever you want to call it), and then just run "perl filter.pl > ", which will pipe out all the lines you do want to . Alex Kirk > Hello, > > I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain > pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security > people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the > information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file > that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines > that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything. > > Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts. > > Thanks so much.. > > Bruce Stitt > TSYS Hosting Services > Voice 706-644-0965 > > ----------------------------------------- > The information contained in this communication (including any > attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the > personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom > it is addressed. The information may also constitute a legally > privileged confidential communication. 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need a good Unix script that.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:37:54 -0000 Hello Bruce, Without knowing more, may I suggest that you take a look at awk for doing this? You can combine awk and sed if you like. There's a good starting point at http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/September1999/article103.html Good luck! bstitt@tsys.com skrev: > Hello, > > I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain > pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security > people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the > information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file > that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines > that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything. > > Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts. > > Thanks so much.. > > Bruce Stitt > TSYS Hosting Services > Voice 706-644-0965 > > ----------------------------------------- > The information contained in this communication (including any > attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the > personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom > it is addressed. The information may also constitute a legally > privileged confidential communication. 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Thank you > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 11:46:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147E316A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.8.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F38C13C4AE for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EBkVwb042975; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:46:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from localhost (kheuer2@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EBkUaB042972; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:46:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) X-Authentication-Warning: gwdu60.gwdg.de: kheuer2 owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:46:30 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: Christian Walther In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0703140433t6fcdcccei9dc60b26bffc35bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070314124231.Q1061@gwdu60.gwdg.de> References: <14989d6e0703140433t6fcdcccei9dc60b26bffc35bd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "bstitt@tsys.com" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need a good Unix script that.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:46:33 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Christian Walther wrote: > On 14/03/07, bstitt@tsys.com wrote: >> >> I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain >> pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security >> people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the >> information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file >> that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines >> that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything. >> >> Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts. >> > You can use something like: > > cat yourfile | grep -v pattern >newfile > > If there are several patterns to be removed, use something like: > > cat yourfile | egrep -v "(pattern1|pattern2|pattern3|...)" >newfile The unofficial UNIX guru law says: Using cat with one and only one argument is prohibited! Just a joke, but typing grep -v pattern newfile saves system resources, doesn't it? Best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 12:45:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260E516A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morfiin@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BBF13C465 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morfiin@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so150683wrq for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=H+foZV3qpEhr/RJExO/pGM2PL4bdbBavxax8erz5/AKUSB0GluwiFwr4eTG+KQzrDmQ2/K0UZ0VfFj2Al9eNUAtOErwp1D9BiiMtAwLu5N+J4CKadEcde0czvh6omx0NHZxMYPt2fBKovh+nqYZP8iQxJdHETaQOl4QpHe1tznU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A25813C459 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so168825wrq for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:37:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZbNivL//H7vrua8j84rLT2TMuTY6816mC362/LrU5cC74dmminHkb5Sryg/Fy3BbnnkQUNCfUoaepzwQhA4q+TIRmvayOFmGf1PfDcHAv99HiXlXgeEcSnKgBk2J49x1NdzYExecFLQjTm0Pq609wrlJfAOBzctBMbu6qHCabk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b3DR44pAKSVOWynQw2KK9Rkxi7Js8R6ZZLjMHvdP5uDFedxuF5bWl8U4nIT9J1F4kOs/IfEh70a2MGP/rJJSWTKKWSiPfDydzSBqG86eygqZq9L5BOolzbiwUhNHPXZa0Djc/gPaehFY1GZzS6aUvTJyzd+JUey6BDGs30vYF8g= Received: by 10.114.202.15 with SMTP id z15mr2906655waf.1173879443654; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.56.10 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260703140637u4f25a074s38357ed7373a855e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:37:23 +0000 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "User Questions" In-Reply-To: <8a0028260703140636o3e7bd108yf2832f7e0f236489@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070313173903.H1923@auden.jmla.com> <20070314001558.36931.qmail@web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8a0028260703140636o3e7bd108yf2832f7e0f236489@mail.gmail.com> Subject: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:37:25 -0000 On 14/03/07, Nicole Harrington wrote: > --- rloefgren@forethought.net wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Old Ranger wrote: > > > > > Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman > > complain to me about having a > > > "devil" image on our church website. > > > > Nothing is more complete than the delusion > > that beauty equals goodness. > > > > - Tolstoy > > I think it needs to be clarified that "beastie" is > Not a devil. > > Beastie was aptly created to represent a Daemon. > Simply correct them that it is not a devil or demon > but a Daemon. > I think it needs to be clarified that the reason /why/ the image of Beastie is so apt to represent a Daemon is only /because/ it LOOKS like a daemon/devil. It wouldn't be half so interesting/striking/cute if the image were a page of C code. IMAO, the BSD community really needs to stop giving in to these religious fanatics. Either that, or we might as well cover our women and stop them driving cars to please the Jihadists. Jeff -- Q: What will happen in the Aftermath? A: Impossible to tell, since we're still in the Beforemath. http://latedeveloper.org.uk -- Q: What will happen in the Aftermath? A: Impossible to tell, since we're still in the Beforemath. http://latedeveloper.org.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 13:05:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625D216A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Antonio.Goncalves@barco.com) Received: from kuuvir01.barco.com (kuu212123311.barco.com [212.123.3.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8802513C4AD for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Antonio.Goncalves@barco.com) Received: From KUUFEX01.barco.com ([150.158.252.52]) by kuu212123311.barco.com (WebShield SMTP v4.5 MR2); id 117387596398; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:39:23 +0100 Received: from KUUMEX03.barco.com ([150.158.192.9]) by KUUFEX01.barco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:39:22 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Priority: normal Importance: normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:39:22 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Core 2 Duo Thread-Index: AcdmLWevfA9gUjqmRtKJbLxEWGGEAQACE+aw From: "Goncalves, Antonio" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2007 12:39:22.0828 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAFDD0C0:01C76635] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:03:57 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Core 2 Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:05:41 -0000 =20 Dear Sir, =20 I would like to use the FreeBSD as the OS of my new Laptop, instead of SUse. =20 It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 13:33:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE21616A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from halilguven@msn.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s30.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s30.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAE813C483 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from halilguven@msn.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.55.136.86]) by bay0-omc3-s30.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:21:31 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:21:31 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.55.136.123 by by131fd.bay131.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:21:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [83.66.6.139] X-Originating-Email: [halilguven@msn.com] X-Sender: halilguven@msn.com From: "Halil Guven" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, halilguven@msn.com Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:21:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-9; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2007 13:21:31.0398 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE22FA60:01C7663B] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:04:13 +0000 Cc: Subject: Hi ; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:33:30 -0000 Dear Sýrs I want to open in FreeBSD program 21,443,11905,11907,12341 15501 ports.How can i do these. Please inform me and thanks in advance of your help. Wait of your kind replay. Best Regards Halil GÜVEN _________________________________________________________________ Real-time chat with your friends - Free download - MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.com/?mkt=tr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 14:11:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7D616A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D047413C457 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HRUCT-0004xE-KF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:11:34 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:11:33 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:11:33 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:11:10 +0100 Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20060911) In-Reply-To: Sender: news Subject: Re: Core 2 Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:11:57 -0000 Goncalves, Antonio wrote: > It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. Can you please let me know wish > release shall I install? Both i386 and AMD64 versions will work, but you'll probably have less problems with the i386 version. There are even nVidia binary drivers for FreeBSD, but you must check if they support your card. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 14:33:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9F316A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FCA13C43E for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EEXmAZ011998 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:33:48 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.42] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EEXm4q023106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:33:48 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:33:47 -0700 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.14.72434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__C230066_P5 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Need a good Unix script that.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:33:49 -0000 On Mar 14, 2007, at 2:56 AM, bstitt@tsys.com wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain > pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our > Security > people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the > information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output > file > that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove > lines > that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything. > > Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts. > > Thanks so much.. > > Bruce Stitt > TSYS Hosting Services > Voice 706-644-0965 As mentioned, when doing simple regex replacements in Unix, some good languages / programs to use are: grep <- extraction only sed <- simple extraction / replacement perl <- the kitchen sink -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 14:36:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1B616A408 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B0713C468 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EEajg4032002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:36:45 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.42] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EEaiN0017071 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:36:45 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <200703140741.l2E7fdIQ010125@anna.ana.com> References: <200703140741.l2E7fdIQ010125@anna.ana.com> X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:36:43 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.14.72434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:36:46 -0000 On Mar 14, 2007, at 12:41 AM, Eric P. Scott wrote: > [Doug Ambrisko] >> One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, > > And if the Nouveau project > is successful, things could get very interesting indeed. ;-) > > -=EPS=- No offense, but when that occurs it might be a cold day in hell given nVidia's track record. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 14:39:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E084216A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9E213C459 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EEdLMV001774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:39:21 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.42] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EEdK5p017300 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:39:21 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <59AB7063-752F-4CE5-BB62-CF167C47DE61@u.washington.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:39:19 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.14.72933 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Core 2 Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:39:22 -0000 On Mar 14, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > Goncalves, Antonio wrote: > >> It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. Can you please let me >> know wish >> release shall I install? > > Both i386 and AMD64 versions will work, but you'll probably have > less problems with the i386 version. There are even nVidia binary > drivers for FreeBSD, but you must check if they support your card. i386 is 32-bit and amd64 is 64-bit. All newer Intel non-Itanium 64- bit chips are compatible with amd64. Like I discovered though you may want to grab an appropriate LiveCD to match your hardware though, because your hardware may be too recent for a release CD. See my thread about 5 days back in the archives--some people that replied gave me links to where the release CDs were. Cheers, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 14:44:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F8E16A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas@bsdunix.ch) Received: from conversation.bsdunix.ch (ns1.bsdunix.ch [82.220.1.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A1313C44C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas@bsdunix.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost.bsdunix.ch [127.0.0.1]) by conversation.bsdunix.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043285D98 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:44:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.bsdunix.ch Received: from conversation.bsdunix.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (conversation.bsdunix.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 0RAIqjQEoSa4 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:44:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [212.101.1.83] (bert.mlan.solnet.ch [212.101.1.83]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by conversation.bsdunix.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FDE5D61 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:44:33 +0100 (CET) From: Thomas Vogt To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:44:32 +0100 Message-Id: <1173883472.50942.21.camel@bert.mlan.solnet.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: bcwipe doesn't wipe any block device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:44:35 -0000 Hello Has someone ever tried to wipe a block device on freebsd 6.2 with bcwipe? I tried bcwipe -bvmd /dev/aacd1 I get: Writing to /dev/aacd1: Invalid argument I tried slices too but it i got the same error. dd can overwrite my disk several times but perhaps someone can give me a hint how to wipe a disk with bcwipe. Regards, Thomas -- Terry Lambert: "It is not unix's job to stop you from shooting your foot. If you so choose to do so, then it is UNIX's job to deliver Mr. Bullet to Mr Foot in the most efficient way it knows." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 14:52:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6B316A405 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B74A13C465 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so188624wxc for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:52:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fpFhE6bbn3NRGMXV+8kkNbsKZCX8QVEY1DDorCEPEICczjRSzqd8i349ZfKSrjm3LFeWj4nH496lAcJwNdY/Br4KuEjgTpwlB4251/dCRLGq0YeOEHGQoMiWHzEidTNcQx7WDkFzx1/tXOAxt1Dd2wrfeJ+K4i7ElJyqiKVTn/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OeraZ2Vq7tNrSCSb06Y09rtOBe0s8Z7meae/392I7jY89fPnKUIB4ypTXIbjwlM/ZHkejVnDsXrEY1icjRO+YlD5U+B658lpIwG/wQhhKzwZ+p09iLSSlJW5+R1jl7ZwNK41oWP/c2fSfo+g7xwWHwQW8T27YqnT09JqEwggNTk= Received: by 10.70.131.19 with SMTP id e19mr3913404wxd.1173883952485; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.14.15 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14989d6e0703140752w10945b1eobdee36a6d2dfdbc4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:52:32 +0100 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Halil Guven" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hi ; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:52:33 -0000 T24gMTQvMDMvMDcsIEhhbGlsIEd1dmVuIDxoYWxpbGd1dmVuQG1zbi5jb20+IHdyb3RlOgo+IERl YXIgU/1ycwo+Cj4gSSB3YW50IHRvIG9wZW4gaW4gRnJlZUJTRCBwcm9ncmFtIDIxLDQ0MywxMTkw NSwxMTkwNywxMjM0MSAxNTUwMSBwb3J0cy5Ib3cKPiBjYW4gaSBkbyB0aGVzZS4KPgo+IFBsZWFz ZSBpbmZvcm0gbWUgYW5kIHRoYW5rcyBpbiBhZHZhbmNlIG9mIHlvdXIgaGVscC4KPgo+IFdhaXQg b2YgeW91ciBraW5kIHJlcGxheS4KClBhcmRvbiBtZSAtIGJ1dCB3aGF0IGFyZSB5b3UgdHJ5aW5n IHRvIGRvPwpTb3VuZHMgdG8gbWUgYXMgaWYgeW91J3JlIHRyeWluZyB0byBpbnN0YWxsIHNvbWUg YXBwbGljYXRpb25zIGZyb20gcG9ydHMuCldlbGwgdGhlbiwganVzdCByZWFkIHRoZSByZWxhdGVk IGNoYXB0ZXJzIGluIHRoZSBoYW5kYm9vazoKCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZnJlZWJzZC5vcmcvZG9jL2Vu X1VTLklTTzg4NTktMS9ib29rcy9oYW5kYm9vay9wb3J0cy5odG1sCgpIVEgKQ2hyaXN0aWFuCg== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 15:12:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A0A16A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwc@shell01.TheWorld.com) Received: from TheWorld.com (pcls6.std.com [192.74.137.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043AD13C458 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwc@shell01.TheWorld.com) Received: from shell.TheWorld.com (root@shell01.theworld.com [192.74.137.71]) by TheWorld.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EF1fVN013961; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:01:45 -0400 Received: from shell01.TheWorld.com (localhost.theworld.com [127.0.0.1]) by shell.TheWorld.com (8.13.6/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l2EF1euv265271; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:01:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by shell01.TheWorld.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2EF1e2Z267703; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:01:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Cochran Message-Id: <200703141501.l2EF1e2Z267703@shell01.TheWorld.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pcls6.std.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2839/Wed Mar 14 05:24:32 2007 on pcls6.std.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Fixing DST manually on rel4 & rel5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:12:14 -0000 Hello -questions: This is most certanly a FAQ but I'm not yet finding the kind of answer I need... I have a couple of old FreeBSD systems that I can't (yet) update to the new Daylight Saving Time rules (based on the email message that came out on -announce in late February). One is 4.10-stable, last updated late November 2004 & the other is 5.4-release. Cvsup brings /usr/src in order but I can't update ports (yet) to get misc/zoneinfo and it doesn't look like I can just "transfer" the /usr/share/zoneinfo bits over from /usr/src without a {build,install}world (also impractical at this time). Best I can tell from the message that came from -announce sometime back, the same fix(es) would apply to both the 4 & 5 branches. Is there a "proper" way to fix the timezone on these machines "manually" pending the "real" change that will happen in the system according to the previous rules/schedule? (e.g. Fix it temporarily/manually but not clobber the original rules.) Or is there some way to install the new cvsup'ed zoneinfo bits into an "old" system so I can run tzsetup and have everything fixed "correctly?" I'm in US Central timezone and I've seen it reported as CST6CDT (I guess that's in SysV). FAQ/doc/book pointers/references are welcome of course - I'm still digging around in both the Handbook & Complete FreeBSD and wherever else I can find... Many thanks, -kc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 15:27:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603D916A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A341F13C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EFRifI089931; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:27:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EFRhjs089928; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:27:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:27:43 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Doug Poland In-Reply-To: <64784.69.129.174.18.1173797935.squirrel@email.polands.org> Message-ID: <20070314162705.B89595@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <64784.69.129.174.18.1173797935.squirrel@email.polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 Snapshot limitiations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:27:50 -0000 > > I seem to recall, but cannot find, the limitation on the number of > snapshots allowed on UFS2. Could someone point me in the right theoretically 20 snapshots. really - a few, as system gets MUCH slower on partition with many snapshots. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 15:30:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F00D16A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4994B13C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 29611 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2007 15:30:34 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Mar 2007 15:30:34 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B8FD928426; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:30:33 -0400 (EDT) To: "Jason Gretz" References: <150E08CEC4094342AB141E7D7F15E31E61372C@hades.dynasty.angstman.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:30:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <150E08CEC4094342AB141E7D7F15E31E61372C@hades.dynasty.angstman.com> (Jason Gretz's message of "Tue\, 13 Mar 2007 14\:59\:40 -0600") Message-ID: <444ponx2p2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slim Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:30:35 -0000 "Jason Gretz" writes: > Hey guys, I tried installing Slim Server from /usr/ports/audio/slimserver= and I am getting this error: > >=20=20 > > Makefile out-of-date with respect to /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/Conf= ig.pm / = ---usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE/config.h > > Cleaning current config before rebuilding Makefile... > > make -f Makefile.old clean > /dev/null 2>&1 > > /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 Makefile.PL "INSTALLDIRS=3Dsite" "CC=3Dcc" "CCFL= AGS=3D-O2 -fn = o-strict-aliasing -pipe " "PREFIX=3D/usr/local" "INSTALLPRIV= LIB=3D/usr/local/lib" "I = NSTALLARCHLIB=3D/usr/local/lib" > > Checking if your kit is complete... > > Looks good > > Writing Makefile for File::Which > > =3D=3D> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <=3D=3D > > =3D=3D> Please rerun the make command. <=3D=3D > > false > > *** Error code 1 > >=20=20 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/p5-File-Which/work/File-Which-0.05. > > *** Error code 1 > >=20=20 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/p5-File-Which. > > *** Error code 1 > >=20=20 > > Stop in /usr/ports/audio/slimserver. > >=20=20 > > Any Ideas? I have run =93portupgrade =96a=94 as well as updated my ports = tree with cvsup. > >=20=20 > > FreeBSD 6.1 Is your clock correct? Maybe a timezone issue? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 15:31:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816F616A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D9113C484 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EFV7CJ090322; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:31:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EFV6u0090309; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:31:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:31:05 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Aitor San Juan In-Reply-To: <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049EE7@bb04.bolsabilbao.local> Message-ID: <20070314162828.K89595@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <1C03BB1950F15F48B9E9654E0EFA42CA049EE7@bb04.bolsabilbao.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing a second hard disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:31:09 -0000 wouldn't be easier to simply use right command directly? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/newdisk bs=64k count=1 - to clean up any DOS or other mess it may be here assuming you will need all disk as one filesystem newfs -right-options /dev/newdisk then add right entry to fstab and mount -a that's all assuming you need partitions bsdlabel -w newdisk bsdlabel -e newdisk and edit label and then same with newfs on each partition. please DO read newfs manual, as default options aren't good From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 15:32:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4968E16A409 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0353A13C48A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so203468wxc for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:32:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d2DJiWCt2R4op2BXgVBV9Lkbsa0JHWFFUjZRrqiShhS03CYad7QgfowBUKmsVNluCl3FPyeJi4OJaY359tJbMOYx3mFbqKAM0mVD8GP6LXkKFb4L0pTf8kf16gVfE2AdFMp0uf+V18qD1oA0bC4P89bcgkeHUo1cPr4SepWKd60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=m4nYSR+847IFD7tj6iO9OqudzLQo0CRBNBiIdEmlQHXBXibaOHVrC3lQR1+8hgNQQcSOA8f2VH5Sj8rT72dEIb2MqDbBXqTf5UJba+0cjiPnRQoy7e4mXL4u4nSEkQkCNQi/1d1UnCi8whx7yRYvRhNk2gkYsgJXPOOGKprNC6k= Received: by 10.70.89.19 with SMTP id m19mr3934021wxb.1173886334987; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.87.103? ( [67.165.117.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i19sm13702314wxd.2007.03.14.08.32.13; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45F81146.9030000@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:14:14 -0800 From: Kurt Buff User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bstitt@tsys.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need a good Unix script that.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kurt.buff@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:32:16 -0000 bstitt@tsys.com wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain > pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security > people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the > information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file > that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines > that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything. > > Any helpful ideas or any useful links to scripts. > > Thanks so much.. > > Bruce Stitt > TSYS Hosting Services > Voice 706-644-0965 grep -v man grep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 15:32:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7206F16A40B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from pd4mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E7213C4B8 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.179]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JEW0043SGETF490@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:30:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEW0023JGEONNJ0@pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:30:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from proven. ([24.85.241.34]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JEW00BVNGENOJR0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:30:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from proven. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proven. (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2EFUMOh022492; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:30:22 -0700 (PDT envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by proven. (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2EFULCn022491; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:30:21 -0700 (PDT envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:30:20 -0700 From: Norbert Papke In-reply-to: <45F77D0B.4030509@cyberwang.net> To: Sean Bryant , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200703140830.21565.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> Organization: Archaeological Filing MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <200703130832.15210.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> <45F77D0B.4030509@cyberwang.net> X-Authentication-warning: proven.: npapke set sender to fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca using -f User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Cc: Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:32:17 -0000 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 21:41, Sean Bryant wrote: > It seems the driver is attached: > nvidia0@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00f910de > rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 > > its a 6800 GT. In an earlier post you mentioned that there were problems with /dev/nvidiactl and the kernel module. Just to confirm, * Does /dev/nvidiactl exist at all? * Do you have /dev/nvidia0? * Does "kldstat" show nvidia.ko at all? * What error do you get when you manually load the nvidia kernel module "kldload nvidia"? Cheers, -- Norbert. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 15:40:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D8116A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from squiccia@cs.purdue.edu) Received: from newman.cs.purdue.edu (newman.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A2B13C489 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from squiccia@cs.purdue.edu) Received: from NEMO.ad.cs.purdue.edu (nemo.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.9.45]) by newman.cs.purdue.edu (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6/PURDUE_CS-2.0) with ESMTP id l2EFGCjT008796 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:16:16 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:16:11 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: pam authentication -extension Thread-Index: AcdmS7L19mtdbcs+RDivJ9iCUeNTjA== From: "Anna C. Squicciarini" To: Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, bhargav@cs.purdue.edu Subject: pam authentication -extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:40:54 -0000 Hi,=20 We are working for a project and trying to see if there is any possible = way to extend PAM authentication=20 modules.=20 I'd like to change the way authentication is executed and being able to invoke PAM authentication as required. I thought about using temporary configuration files, that can specify the particular type of module to = be used. Do you know if anything in this direction has been done, or if it's = possible to be done? Thank you Anna and Abhilasha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 15:45:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CAE16A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E79F13C480 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 31396 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2007 15:45:38 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Mar 2007 15:45:38 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 09F6B28426; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:45:37 -0400 (EDT) To: Ken Cochran References: <200703141501.l2EF1e2Z267703@shell01.TheWorld.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:45:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200703141501.l2EF1e2Z267703@shell01.TheWorld.com> (Ken Cochran's message of "Wed\, 14 Mar 2007 11\:01\:40 -0400 \(EDT\)") Message-ID: <44zm6fvnfi.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 & rel5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:45:39 -0000 Ken Cochran writes: > Hello -questions: > > This is most certanly a FAQ but I'm not yet finding the kind of > answer I need... > > I have a couple of old FreeBSD systems that I can't (yet) update > to the new Daylight Saving Time rules (based on the email message > that came out on -announce in late February). One is > 4.10-stable, last updated late November 2004 & the other is > 5.4-release. Cvsup brings /usr/src in order but I can't update > ports (yet) to get misc/zoneinfo and it doesn't look like I can > just "transfer" the /usr/share/zoneinfo bits over from /usr/src > without a {build,install}world (also impractical at this time). > > Best I can tell from the message that came from -announce sometime > back, the same fix(es) would apply to both the 4 & 5 branches. > > Is there a "proper" way to fix the timezone on these machines > "manually" pending the "real" change that will happen in the > system according to the previous rules/schedule? (e.g. Fix it > temporarily/manually but not clobber the original rules.) > > Or is there some way to install the new cvsup'ed zoneinfo bits > into an "old" system so I can run tzsetup and have everything > fixed "correctly?" I'm in US Central timezone and I've seen it > reported as CST6CDT (I guess that's in SysV). > > FAQ/doc/book pointers/references are welcome of course - I'm > still digging around in both the Handbook & Complete FreeBSD > and wherever else I can find... Copying the zoneinfo files (and running tzsetup) should work fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 15:53:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B76316A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099AF13C45A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2EFrR2Q045900 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:53:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2EFrR2N045894 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:53:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:53:26 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:53:22 -0000 Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any dependencies. Why is this a bad idea! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:08:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EC816A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [217.20.133.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB7613C44B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2939F1190; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:08:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 2luXyXbHczOn; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:07:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.2.186] (catv-50635cb6.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.92.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56849F1178; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:07:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F81DCF.6050309@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:07:43 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:08:08 -0000 Gary Kline schrieb: > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a > relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling > ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any > dependencies. > > Why is this a bad idea! > > gary > The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g. which version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you have used, what options the port you built it. Some of these applies to packages as well, that's why I prefer ports over packages at all. E.g. let's see lang/php5. It does not have the apache module enabled by default. If it were, then the problem comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the default now, but what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your apache version from package? The situtation has been already pretty complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine tuning, but you can use them if you don't have special needs. Binary diffs would be so complicated that I think this way we could really not follow. If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It has an option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it fetch packages instead of building from source. Nowadays, this network traffic should not be a real problem, I think. Regards, Gabor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:09:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AF616A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D630013C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2EG5xq0064522; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:05:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2EG5wBk064521; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:05:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:05:58 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Goncalves, Antonio" Message-ID: <20070314160558.GA64473@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Core 2 Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:09:19 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 01:39:22PM +0100, Goncalves, Antonio wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > I would like to use the FreeBSD as the OS of my new Laptop, > instead of SUse. > > It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. 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Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:20:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D03216A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8597B13C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l2EGJc0p058097 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:19:39 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45F820B0.8030204@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:20:00 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:20:04 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a > relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling > ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any > dependencies. > > Why is this a bad idea! > > gary portsnap works on this basis as does freebsd-update, see http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-update/ I can imagine it could get horribly complex, but using http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/ i guess its potentially possible. Colin Percival would be a good person to talk to if you're thinking of implementing this, since he wrote the tools referenced above. Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 15:55:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F3316A400; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from spunkymail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-119.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5593513C44B; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (68-184-120-224.dhcp.smyr.ga.charter.com [68.184.120.224]) by spunkymail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FC2FFA7F; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:55:20 -0400 From: Sean Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070313) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Reilly References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> In-Reply-To: <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:23:39 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsdfree.linuxsir@alpha.blogger.com, Kip Macy , Nikolas@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Britton Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:55:22 -0000 Andrew Reilly wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) > Doug Ambrisko wrote: > >> One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, >> whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati >> since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean towards >> Nvidia :-( >> > > Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards > that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of > open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer > system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. > > Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a > G400 or the like), but it's been a long time... > > (I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv > driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...) > > Cheers, > > Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that. It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver is working just fine for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:03:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEF016A405; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yann@raven.kierun.org) Received: from raven.kierun.org (raven.yorksj.ac.uk [193.61.234.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95D813C4BE; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:03:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yann@raven.kierun.org) Received: from yann by raven.kierun.org with local (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HRVwo-000HpW-Ku; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:03:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:03:30 +0000 From: Yann Golanski To: Sean Bryant Message-ID: <20070314160330.GA68530@kierun.org> References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Sender: "Yann Golanski, University of York, +44(0)1904-433088" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:24:26 +0000 Cc: Andrew Reilly , freebsdfree.linuxsir@alpha.blogger.com, Kip Macy , Nikolas@FreeBSD.ORG, Britton , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:03:41 -0000 --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Sean Bryant on Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:55:20 -0400 > Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated= =20 > but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work= =20 > for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that.= =20 > It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver= =20 > is working just fine for me. I tried to get a vesa working with a Radeon X1900 and the screen resolution is rather poor. I certainly cannot seem to get it at 1600x1200 which is what I am used to. See my previous post if you think you can improve on that. I can live without fancy GL screen savers but having a tiny screen is rather irritating. --=20 yann@kierun.org -=3D*=3D- www.kierun.= org PGP: 009D 7287 C4A7 FD4F 1680 06E4 F751 7006 9DE2 6318 --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF+BzS91FwBp3iYxgRAq4yAJ0cLw5AARALN6qXjeT5H/8Qlq10dgCfV98B 27A68eH+FjS2+/p5s4VbMsA= =Uiz6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:22:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032D916A401; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:22:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA1F13C455; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [128.206.184.213] (cauchy.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by math.missouri.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2EGMKnc051047; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:22:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Message-ID: <45F8213B.6000000@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:22:19 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20070309 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Bryant References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> In-Reply-To: <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/2839/Wed Mar 14 03:24:32 2007 on math.missouri.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:25:08 +0000 Cc: Andrew Reilly , freebsdfree.linuxsir@alpha.blogger.com, Kip Macy , Nikolas@freebsd.org, Britton , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:22:32 -0000 Sean Bryant wrote: > Andrew Reilly wrote: > >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) >> Doug Ambrisko wrote: >> >> >>> One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, >>> whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati >>> since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean >>> towards Nvidia :-( >>> >> >> >> Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards >> that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of >> open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer >> system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. >> >> Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a >> G400 or the like), but it's been a long time... >> >> (I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv >> driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...) >> >> Cheers, >> >> > > > Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that > accelerated but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot > get it to work for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing > happens after that. It might be the fact that I have a PCI express > card. But the vesa driver is working just fine for me. I had a PCI-X nvidia card that I couldn't get to work, neither with the nvidia nor the nv driver. But it turned out to be a flaw in the motherboard BIOS. Updating the motherboard BIOS (which was an intel server board) fixed the problem for me. Maybe you have a similar problem, or maybe not. Stephen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:33:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2404716A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0CA13C44C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2EGXXe6076694; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:33:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2EGXWdC076671; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:33:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:33:32 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Vince Message-ID: <20070314163332.GB46558@thought.org> References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <45F820B0.8030204@unsane.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F820B0.8030204@unsane.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:33:28 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 04:20:00PM +0000, Vince wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading > > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by > > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting > > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a > > relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale > > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling > > ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any > > dependencies. > > > > Why is this a bad idea! > > > > gary > portsnap works on this basis as does freebsd-update, see > http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-update/ > I can imagine it could get horribly complex, but using > http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/ i guess its potentially possible. > Colin Percival would be a good person to talk to if you're thinking of > implementing this, since he wrote the tools referenced above. I'm just starting to use portsnap over cvsup ports*; looking for better docs on keeping (reasonably) current. Thanks for the URL's. --This could get severely complicated if there were no ground rules. OTOH, there's got to be a better way. --Well, hopefully! gary > > > Vince -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:42:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A3216A480; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75BC13C465; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [128.206.184.213] (cauchy.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by math.missouri.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2EGgKAt053023; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:42:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Message-ID: <45F825EC.6030701@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:42:20 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20070309 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Long References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> <45F8213B.6000000@math.missouri.edu> <45F824F9.2070708@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <45F824F9.2070708@samsco.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/2839/Wed Mar 14 03:24:32 2007 on math.missouri.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:42:21 -0000 Scott Long wrote: > Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > >> Sean Bryant wrote: >> >>> Andrew Reilly wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) >>>> Doug Ambrisko wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, >>>>> whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of >>>>> ati since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean >>>>> towards Nvidia :-( >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards >>>> that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of >>>> open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer >>>> system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. >>>> >>>> Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a >>>> G400 or the like), but it's been a long time... >>>> >>>> (I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv >>>> driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that >>> accelerated but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and >>> cannot get it to work for the life of me. the drive attached, but >>> nothing happens after that. It might be the fact that I have a PCI >>> express card. But the vesa driver is working just fine for me. >> >> >> >> I had a PCI-X nvidia card > > > PCI-X? Or PCI Express? PCI-X is not the same thing. > It isn't? I guess this shows my ignorance! Well, I think it is the PCI express - the one that is supposed to be super fast, and replace AGP. Stephen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:38:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405EE16A401; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EF113C45B; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l2EGbwXN058359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:37:59 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45F824FD.5030502@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:38:21 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Bryant References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> In-Reply-To: <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:57:52 +0000 Cc: Andrew Reilly , freebsdfree.linuxsir@alpha.blogger.com, Kip Macy , Nikolas@freebsd.org, Britton , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:38:35 -0000 Sean Bryant wrote: > Andrew Reilly wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) >> Doug Ambrisko wrote: >> >>> One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, >>> whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati >>> since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean towards >>> Nvidia :-( >>> >> >> Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards >> that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of >> open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer >> system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. >> I never thought I'd actually recommend it but.... The Intel 82945GM controller in my laptop has semi ok 3d acceleration. I'm running the experimental xorg 7.2.r3 server with beryl and its running quite nicely. output of glinfo below if anyones interested. The performance doesnt compare to the nvidia drivers on my desktop at home but it does its job, wouldnt want to game on it though. glxgears output: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b 3235 frames in 5.0 seconds = 646.998 FPS 3610 frames in 5.0 seconds = 721.937 FPS 3525 frames in 5.0 seconds = 704.861 FPS ------------------------------ glinfo output: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b GL_VERSION: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.2 GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_imaging GL_AR B_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_t exture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_te xture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_text ure_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_tran spose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EX T_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volu me_hint GL_EXT_cull_vertex GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_convolution GL_EX T_copy_texture GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_histogram GL_E XT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon _offset GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_co lor GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture GL_EXT_texture GL_ EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_en v_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_textu re_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_vertex_array G L_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1 GL_APPLE_client_storage GL_APPLE_packed_pixels G L_ATI_blend_equation_separate GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repe at GL_INGR_blend_func_separate GL_MESA_pack_invert GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture GL_MESA _window_pos GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_OES_read _format GL_SGI_color_matrix GL_SGI_color_table GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_t exture_border_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth _texture GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2 GL_VENDOR: Tungsten Graphics, Inc GLU_VERSION: 1.3 GLU_EXTENSIONS: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator GLU_EXT_object_space_tess GLUT_API_VERSION: 5 GLUT_XLIB_IMPLEMENTATION: 15 -------- Vince >> > > Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated > but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work > for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that. > It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver > is working just fine for me. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 17:10:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DB416A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E374113C458 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EHAqi6003099; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:10:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EHAnU2003092; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:10:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:10:48 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070314181017.E2873@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:10:53 -0000 > We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer > documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD > or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem. > > Here's the email address of AMD's president: dirk.meyer@amd.com > > Give him your two cents. > already did, i use AMD Athlon64 processors, but none of it's graphics cards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 17:13:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6D216A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB3413C458 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn01.u.washington.edu (hymn01.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.55]) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EHDuxw032478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:13:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn01.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EHDuXU005588 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:13:56 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.4] by hymn01.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:13:56 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:13:56 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45F825EC.6030701@math.missouri.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.14.95934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:13:57 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > Scott Long wrote: > >> Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: >> >>> Sean Bryant wrote: >>> >>>> Andrew Reilly wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) >>>>> Doug Ambrisko wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, >>>>>> whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati >>>>>> since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean >>>>>> towards Nvidia :-( >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards >>>>> that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of >>>>> open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer >>>>> system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. >>>>> >>>>> Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a >>>>> G400 or the like), but it's been a long time... >>>>> >>>>> (I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv >>>>> driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated >>>> but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work >>>> for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that. >>>> It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver >>>> is working just fine for me. >>> >>> >>> >>> I had a PCI-X nvidia card >> >> >> PCI-X? Or PCI Express? PCI-X is not the same thing. >> > > It isn't? I guess this shows my ignorance! Well, I think it is the PCI > express - the one that is supposed to be super fast, and replace AGP. > > Stephen Yes, there's a difference. Please read: . -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 17:16:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2356216A505; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7676913C45D; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (ylqnun@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EHFWYB011393; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:15:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l2EHFW7s011392; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:15:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:15:32 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200703141715.l2EHFW7s011392@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jhary@unsane.co.uk, Sean Bryant , freebsdfree.linuxsir@alpha.blogger.com, Kip Macy , Nikolas@FreeBSD.ORG, Britton , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <45F824FD.5030502@unsane.co.uk> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:15:38 +0100 (CET) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:34:34 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jhary@unsane.co.uk, Sean Bryant , freebsdfree.linuxsir@alpha.blogger.com, Kip Macy , Nikolas@FreeBSD.ORG, Britton , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:16:18 -0000 Vince wrote: > Sean Bryant wrote: > > Andrew Reilly wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards > > > that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of > > > open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer > > > system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. > > > > I never thought I'd actually recommend it but.... > The Intel 82945GM controller in my laptop has semi ok 3d acceleration. > I'm running the experimental xorg 7.2.r3 server with beryl and its > running quite nicely. output of glinfo below if anyones interested. > > The performance doesnt compare to the nvidia drivers on my desktop at > home but it does its job, wouldnt want to game on it though. Depends on the game. I'm also quite satisfied with the intel i915/i945 graphics. If I had to buy a new laptop right now, that would be my preference. The 3D acceleration is fast enough to play OpenGL games such as ports/games/crack-attack smoothly at full-screen resolution. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 17:16:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE12916A408 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AB913C45E; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.samsco.home (phobos.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2EGcM2r099140; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:38:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <45F824F9.2070708@samsco.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:38:17 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> <45F8213B.6000000@math.missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <45F8213B.6000000@math.missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:38:28 -0700 (MST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on pooker.samsco.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:34:50 +0000 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Kip Macy , Nikolas@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Sean Bryant , freebsdfree.linuxsir@alpha.blogger.com, Britton Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:16:23 -0000 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > Sean Bryant wrote: > >> Andrew Reilly wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) >>> Doug Ambrisko wrote: >>> >>> >>>> One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, >>>> whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati >>>> since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean >>>> towards Nvidia :-( >>>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards >>> that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of >>> open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer >>> system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. >>> >>> Matrox used to have a reputation for goodness (I used to have a >>> G400 or the like), but it's been a long time... >>> >>> (I'm currently using a lowish-end NVidia card under the x.org nv >>> driver, but it has issues (of which no 3D accel is but one...) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >> >> >> Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that >> accelerated but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot >> get it to work for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing >> happens after that. It might be the fact that I have a PCI express >> card. But the vesa driver is working just fine for me. > > > I had a PCI-X nvidia card PCI-X? Or PCI Express? PCI-X is not the same thing. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 17:17:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A052A16A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mustikas008@yahoo.com) Received: from web37707.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37707.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.87.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4090713C44C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mustikas008@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 69220 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2007 16:51:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=CzSdrS3yQTz654dGaCP+7JgCZYhoNBTU7bLPWxpT5eDB8sZC6u9zyVbQLk4KYo1ACw4gYt6nbzPuhM5RwedfQctWkREDzrzQYgmCE6pbUIEcUfjYF67fpeR1DrjHmqP8lsJ4V2CTfL9s/MvWnKl0OyJWG+gGhq56YNen+R/LI64=; X-YMail-OSG: KjZYzPkVM1kxC5CH_ZSRdmVBTq_dOAxEgK9osV8X1G2YNMqbNmBXCYXDR2Du6elhVvybg3NvoqnQ9DzFOg4Be9ufs4pBihzwxw7pMlM91vZpeTbRo70L9IZ_rY_5w7gWfiPch7H_Q1aZeSJe2o354twPQA-- Received: from [82.71.53.208] by web37707.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:51:02 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:51:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Must Karu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <349421.69122.qm@web37707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:35:05 +0000 Subject: beagle contents search not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:17:44 -0000 Hi, can anyone confirm that any of the desktop search engines, beagle or tracker, work on their system? What Im interested in is whether they can search contents of files? When I try to extract content with beagle on my machine (latest mono, FBSD 6.2) using beagle-extract-content file.txt it gives: . . . Unable to filter file:///file.txt: posix_fadvise So: in light of the fact that FreeBSD does not seem to have posix_fadvise implemented at all (right?), does this mean beagle is not able to index file contents at all on FBSD (at the moment)? Possible workarounds? best, must PS As for tracker, its contents extractor cmd line utility just exits silently, giving nothing. -- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 17:44:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1379416A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF49513C459 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 4412 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2007 17:44:54 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Mar 2007 17:44:54 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C6EA528426; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:44:52 -0400 (EDT) To: "Don O'Neil" References: <019401c76598$92c4bdb0$0700020a@mickey> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:44:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <019401c76598$92c4bdb0$0700020a@mickey> (Don O'Neil's message of "Tue\, 13 Mar 2007 10\:53\:57 -0700") Message-ID: <44ps7bg1nv.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' , cperciva@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Freebsd-Update & Stable Dist's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: 'FreeBSD Questions' List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:44:55 -0000 "Don O'Neil" writes: > When I built my latest server I used a FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE-200608 ISO image > that was produced on one of the serveral 'snapshot' sites.... > > However, I was going to run freebsd-update to check for any patches, etc.. > That may need to be applied and it says it won't run on my machine: > > This system is running FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE-200608. > FreeBSD Update is only designed to track FreeBSD Security > and Errata branches and cannot update this system > > I was wondering if there is a way to force it to think my machine is really > 6.1-RELEASE, or to safely use freebsd-update on my machine. I would think you would need to update some other way to be completely safe anyway. Since there's been a release more recently than that anyway, a binary upgrade to 6.2 would be an easy way to kickstart your ongoing use of freebsd-update. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:02:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC7F16A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEC713C46A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so10140ugh for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:02:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=TF2lx6uJFWos+uWyURrjoQP3a1jKV2jgehnQBLUUtOKnJSBvHJeoon2EJ+ZSSa+DuoeAKsPHiRVOsk1jwKQaUYZVin8y/S6KcJi3gJOeRfc1KBLgDlKJqWzBwo4N0Rmnnx+2YZWugQV3WRXEAM0cD/kshjGvqYSLJ9vOMDZDAX8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=AP0dCUiHOeak80PWZMyk8QZuY7kqw++li0vX1xkN8ueqF1BBv5VaB3pLhfbTzB5eHZIcY4xA/Buq5Vig4zjm5Yfxpz1bxGNC/x0gqhx/Q0E2/kA2iMdNrUoFAOPHBReTxXRXnot34F1PwJhNUfX7ktD29uKUeq/ufr9tgeiEb+g= Received: by 10.67.22.2 with SMTP id z2mr1386520ugi.1173895363961; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.237.17 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <755cb9fc0703141102q31915a07g4e5abdfc7628815e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:02:43 +0000 From: "Alexandre Vieira" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Zabbix problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:02:49 -0000 Hi list, Anyone installed zabbix-server lately? Everything seems to be working fine except the graphic generating. The graphic apears, the values for max/min/avg appear in the graphic footer, the scale also appears ok but there is no drawing line. I've tried many parameters to generate graphics and the only thing in common is that the line doesn't show up. I've installed zabbix-server trough ports (from yesterday). The only error I can see in httpd-error.log is: [Wed Mar 14 17:49:16 2007] [error] [client 10.16.1.85] PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 1277 in /usr/local/www/apache22/data/include/classes/graph.inc.php on line 852, referer: http://10.16.3.92/history.php?period=86400&dec=0&inc=0&left=0&right=0&stime=yyyymmddhhmm&itemid=17255&action=showgraph&from=0 and [Tue Mar 14 16:20:00 2007] [error] [client 10.16.1.85] PHP Strict Standards: date() [function.date]: It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. Please use the date.timezonesetting, the TZ environment variable or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'Europe/Paris' for 'WET/0.0/no DST' instead in /usr/local/www/apache22/data/include/classes/graph.inc.php on line 392, referer: http://10.16.3.92/history.php?period=86400&dec=0&inc=0&left=0&right=0&stime=yyyymmddhhmm&itemid=17498&action=showgraph&from=0 I don't know if this is supposed to break the graphic generation. Just curious to know if anyone else is having this problem. Also, anyone noticed that most "native" classes to retrieve system data from a freebsd agent either show as "Not supported" or return incorrect values? TIA Regards, -- Alexandre Vieira - nullpt@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:07:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149EB16A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E863613C45B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay6.apple.com (relay6.apple.com [17.128.113.36]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2EI7QIU020737; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay6.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay6.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id A26AB10BB9; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807124-9b41cbb0000007df-95-45f839dee412 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay6.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 8644810B61; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> <45F57936.3030601@usm.cl> <1173830431.1588.34.camel@dagobah.vindaloo.com> <30DC016D-CA46-44D1-A12D-00BDD723A71D@shire.net> <45F76C4B.5070905@vindaloo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <46E487EC-2AAF-4885-A19E-1D55034C2D4C@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:07:25 -0700 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Christopher Sean Hilton , User Questions Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:07:27 -0000 On Mar 13, 2007, at 8:37 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >>> Address verification callbacks take various forms, but the way >>> exim does it by default is to attempt to start a DSN delivery to >>> the address and if the RCPT TO is accepted it is affirmative. It >>> is not usually use VRFY. Most address verification is done by >>> attempting to start some sort of delivery to the address. >> >> I'm assuming that DSN is Delivery Service Notification > > yes > >> or return receipt. > > mp Most callback systems either try to do a DSN or they try to do a delivery (SMTP RCPT TO) and then quit before sending a message body via DATA; they do not depend on the SMTP VRFY command as that is commonly blocked or configured to return a generic "I don't know whether the address is valid". >> If it is or if it somehow relies on the ability to deliver a >> message via smtp to *@example.com then I don't see how it prevents >> spam. > > If the mail says it is from chris@vindaloo.com but I cannot send a > DSN to chris@vindaloo.com then the account is most likely bogus > sender and is refused. It works wonders for spam. > > DSN has a specific definition -- look in the RFCs as I don't > remember which RFC it is offhand. But you are supposed to always > accept a DSN from <> as part of the RFCs Supporting bounce messages from <> was part of the original RFC-821/822 specs. The fancier three-digit codes and canonical DSN format was specified somewhat later, but I believe that the updated SMTP RFCs, 2821/2822 include it. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:08:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA3E16A404 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rambiusparkisanius@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B928B13C468 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rambiusparkisanius@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so11837ugh for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:08:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jekillen , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: getting mail to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:21:25 -0000 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Mar 13, 2007, at 8:17 PM, jekillen wrote: > >> >> On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:14 PM, RW wrote: > > >>> Just as long as you understand the distinction between forward and >>> reverse DNS. Based on the whois record for for your IP address, at the >>> moment you appear to have the following reverse DNS for the address >>> range 75.7.236.224 - 75.7.236.231: >>> >>> $ for i in `jot 8 224` ; do dig +short -x 75.7.236.$i ; done >>> adsl-75-7-236-224.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >>> adsl-75-7-236-225.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >>> adsl-75-7-236-226.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >>> adsl-75-7-236-227.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >>> adsl-75-7-236-228.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >>> adsl-75-7-236-229.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >>> adsl-75-7-236-230.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >>> adsl-75-7-236-231.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. >> > > >> OK, It appears that it is the ISPs name servers who >> are responding. When I call up my sights I get to the >> machines they are on according to my present >> DNS setup. > > > But that is what the public sees. If (which I strongly doubt) your > own internal nameservers give a different result to > > $ dig +short -x 75.7.236.224 > > then it still makes no difference to the rest of the world which, > when doing a *reverse* lookup on your IP address doesn't get anything > that looks like your domain name. > > >> try www.brushandbard.com > > > That's not the question. RW was (correctly) talking about *reverse* > DNS, aka DNS PTR records. That is we are looking at the translation > *from* number *to* name. > > If you look up one of my statically IP addresses > > $ dig +short -x 72.64.118.115 > n115.ewd.goldmark.org. > > you get that instead of > > static-72-64-118-115.dllstx.fios.verizon.net > > It took me many unpleasant hours on the phone to Verizon to get the > reverse look up the way it is now. I spent those hours on the phone > specifically because I did want to run my own direct to MX mailserver. > ##### I just got this above problem cleared up with the Nework that supplies my lines and IP addresses. Is this a common practice that the static IP you get from a Network Provider will reflect the Network Providers ID not yours? I guess then you have to include what you expect in your order for a line/s and IP/s. for running mail servers. Al Plant NetOpsCenter hdk5.net ##### > My mailserver sends out mail as being from lists.shepard-families.org > (in the envelope and header froms) but identifies itself as > gecko.ewd.goldmark.org > > a regular look up of either of those returns > > 72.64.118.115 > > A reverse of that turns up > > n115.ewd.goldmark.org > > which when you do a regular lookup gets you > > 72.64.118.115 > > So my machine is claiming to be in goldmark.org, and doing a reverse > lookup on its IP address points you back to goldmark.org. So that > strongly suggests that when it identifies itself as goldmark.org, it > is doing so with the consent not only of the person who controls the > goldmark.org domain, but also with the consent of the person (in this > case Verizon) who controls the IP address of the machine. > > If mail from my machine failed this IP --> name1 --> IP --> name2 --> > IP test (the test being that name1 and name2 are in the same domain > and that "IP" is the same IP throughout), then mail from my machine > would get a high spam score by most systems. > > I really don't want to sound harsh with this, but if you aren't fully > clear on concepts like reverse and forward DNS and authoritative > servers for each, you really should be looking for a solution that > doesn't involve you running a direct to MX system. You can still run > your own mailserver which you can integrate with your webserver, but > have it relay all of the outgoing mail to your ISP's SMTP host which > is set up for the purpose. > > Also if you post your queries to the postfix mailing list (I think I > recall that you were using postfix) you will probably find lots of > pointers to information explaining about configuration. "The Book of > Postfix" (ISBN 1-59327-001-1) has a good discussion of the need for > other hosts being able to reverse resolve the IP of your mail hub. > > -j > > -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:40:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED5716A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@messier.com) Received: from mainstreet.net (noc.mainstreet.net [207.5.0.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A660B13C45E for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@messier.com) Received: from [199.245.73.254] (cache.mainstreet.net [199.245.73.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by mainstreet.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2EIeQPP055521 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:40:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@messier.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <64CD631E-C04C-498E-A71D-208287D5511D@messier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: Mark Messier Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:40:18 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: per-interface default routes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:40:26 -0000 Suppose you have a freebsd box with two LAN interfaces, one numbered on netA and one on netB... Some applications are listening on the netA IP address, some on the netB IP address. Some applications may be listening on all interfaces but might have a directive that indicates which IP address to use for packets sourced from the application, like this: query-source address 192.0.2.2 port 53; What I want to happen is that packets sourced from the netA IP address go out the netA physical interface and packets sourced from the netB IP address go out the netB physical interface. That is, I want per-interface default routes (is this the correct term?). How do I do this? Thanks, -mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:47:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C1916A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFE813C487 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EIloTT014452; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:47:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EIll1f014447; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:47:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:47:47 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> Message-ID: <20070314194527.W13133@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:47:51 -0000 > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a > relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling > ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any > dependencies. > > Why is this a bad idea! > because if you change say 5 lines in program source of 1MB binary program, resulting new 1MB binary will be MUCH different byte-by-byte mostly because of address shifting so lots of pointers to code (or data, rodata) will change. so diff will be big. recompiling is OK anyway, because you always recompile to your machine (assuming you set CPUTYPE in make.conf) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:50:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D4016A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hyperconx.com) Received: from front.hyperconx.net (front.hyperconx.net [65.74.165.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D008213C45B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hyperconx.com) Received: from adsl-69-225-224-190.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net ([69.225.224.190] helo=Production) by front.hyperconx.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.53) id 1HRYYS-000G77-2l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:50:32 -0800 From: "Wil Hatfield" To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:51:05 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <11920492@srv.sem.ipt.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: HyperConX Bug-Guard AV on (front.hyperconx.net) Subject: RE: Upgrading from FreeBSD 6.1-Stable to Latest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:50:32 -0000 Taking this thread a little further since it is right in line with my todo list for tonight. I currently have 6.1 installed on a Supermicro machine with two ata drives. There has been a major bug that causes frequent kernel panics which started at 6.0. The following build options seemed to help with quick rebooting and recovery. But of course this week the reboots aren't going to well and it is definately time to upgrade to 6.2-RELEASE (RELENG_6_2) in hopes that whatever is causing the kernel panics is software related and has been fixed. makeoptions DEBUG=-g options DDB, KDB, GDB options INVARIANTS options INVARIANT_SUPPORT options WITNESS_KDB options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER,ALT_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER options KDB_UNATTENDED options QUOTA options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=601 options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN options SMP options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options DUMMYNET options IPSTEALTH options HZ=2000 #options RESTARTABLE_PANICS options PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=5 Will some of these options still work with 6.2-RELEASE or should I omit something here in order to use the 6.2 release properly? I am sure there are some since I am going from a 6.1 prerelease to a release. I am just not sure which ones should be omitted. I still want the capability of the machine rebooting unattended if a panic should occur. Here is some more info in case anybody sees anything that I don't regarding those panics. Never a single vmcore so I have found debugging quite useless. But of course I do understand that I have alot to learn about debugging. Not my forte. ### uname -a ### 123.domain.net 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Apr 20 16:01:16 PDT 2006 wilh@123.domain.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM-KERNEL i386 ### dmesg.today ### Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Apr 20 16:01:16 PDT 2006 wilh@123.domain.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM-KERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3206.53-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf43 Stepping = 3 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x641d> AMD Features=0x20100000 Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 2146893824 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2094931968 (1997 MB) MPTable: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0 ioapic1: Assuming intbase of 24 ioapic2: Assuming intbase of 48 ioapic3: Assuming intbase of 72 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard ioapic3 irqs 72-95 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface cpu0 on motherboard cpu1 on motherboard cpu2 on motherboard cpu3 on motherboard pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.0 (no driver attached) pcib1: irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 pci1: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci1 pci3: on pcib3 pci1: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pcib4: irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pcib5: irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 28.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 em0: port 0x2000-0x203f mem 0xdd200000-0xdd21ffff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci6 em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:84:f0:04 em1: port 0x2040-0x207f mem 0xdd220000-0xdd23ffff irq 25 at device 2.0 on pci6 em1: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:84:f0:05 uhci0: port 0x1400-0x141f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x1420-0x143f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 29.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 29.5 (no driver attached) ehci0: mem 0xdd001400-0xdd0017ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: EHCI version 1.0 usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib7: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib7 pci7: at device 1.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1460-0x146f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc8fff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (memory) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec IP Filter: v4.1.8 initialized. Default = block all, Logging = enabled ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging unlimited ad0: 190782MB at ata0-master UDMA100 ad1: 190782MB at ata0-slave UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted em0: link state changed to UP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:54:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F66816A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7900013C45B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 1901 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2007 18:54:36 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Mar 2007 18:54:36 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E2A3928426; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:54:35 -0400 (EDT) To: "Alexander Schlichting" References: <07fa01c765a7$e2855080$a78ff180$@net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:54:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: <07fa01c765a7$e2855080$a78ff180$@net> (Alexander Schlichting's message of "Tue\, 13 Mar 2007 20\:43\:03 +0100") Message-ID: <447itj64gk.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with SSH and Realtek driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:54:37 -0000 "Alexander Schlichting" writes: > > > I had a problem with the sshd disconnecting incoming connections after a few > seconds of inactivity. I tried a lot and found no solution for this so I > ended up with trying the latest driver from here : > http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1 > d=4&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true> > &PNid=13&PFid=4&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true > and since the driver is from mid November last year I did not expect it to > be any better. I actually expected FreeBSD to have that driver with the > kernel but it seems like it's not. After installing this driver all my > problems are gone. The problem is I have to install 4 servers with the same > Realtek NIC. What would be the best way to do this and to compile the driver > static with the kernel. I would like to avoid loading it as a module for > every server. Does a snapshot release maybe have the latest Realtek driver ? That depends a bit on exactly which RealTek hardware you have. However, the drivers have undergone continuous development, so your results are likely to be better with more recent FreeBSD code. An examination of the code with that version and the one it was based on could tell you what the changes were that RealTek made. Then you could see if those changes have made it into the latest version. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 18:54:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABA316A40E for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A75A13C44B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EIi4Tn014007; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:44:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EIi4Gn014004; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:44:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:44:03 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mark Messier In-Reply-To: <64CD631E-C04C-498E-A71D-208287D5511D@messier.com> Message-ID: <20070314194222.O13133@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <64CD631E-C04C-498E-A71D-208287D5511D@messier.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: per-interface default routes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:54:50 -0000 > and packets sourced from the > netB IP address go out the netB physical interface. > > That is, I want per-interface default routes > (is this the correct term?). > > How do I do this? > using ipfw rule example: add xxx fwd router_for_a_link all from outgoing_address/range to any please learn at least ipfw first if you didn't do already. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:06:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5738B16A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A2813C459 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so279310wxc for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:06:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=HHAJP35GIzN2QjvgA5K3jcfgEX7PyJogUdrYwTmBkwUmxJ7ruPNZEuKsMrHq69PDqi100llt6fwtJyI7dPqGlit4z6mmTDpYvCu1UbvUiOprk3WEioiHcRGxUI9uzLkQEN7S13+bKU/2swV6lPZLEDjWl7S9f3pgndYydjQaSjU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=IkNUY0bnfcGDK0+U1jobkGDn9Zgc1Pci3KTBbRGIuaW3w9to6+XrxWvn+jBo8C+vjM4WO86vBLTfkfQ/DrR8cCPdxqbqQOAIEin3t1+iI3+btJtJC/AOOwd+B/pQHwWEjMiKeXNqWY5jB3bgSgsZp3Ac6wwb05JLnBgpLD9zJ2w= Received: by 10.90.104.14 with SMTP id b14mr7692779agc.1173897440567; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.164.13 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8e10486b0703141137rde7b516ufb14f06221792c65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:37:20 -0300 From: "Alexandre Biancalana" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ifstated check commands behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:06:30 -0000 Hi list, I'm trying to setup ifstated to check two links and if some go down, do some actions like change pf rules and machine's route. My doubt is about the execution order/repetition of the states body of ifstated.conf, in all configs that I tried just the last check is executed always, follow and example: ifstated.conf: ============================== loglevel debug ping1 = '( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) ' ping2 = '( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) ' state one { if ! ( $ping1 && $ping2 ) { set-state two } } state two { init { run "logger -p console.notice -t ifstated 'Restarting network !'" } if ( $ping && $ping2 ) { set-state one } } ============================== # ifstated -dv ping1 = "( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) " ping2 = "( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) " ifstated: initial state: one ifstated: changing state to one ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null ifstated: started ifstated: changing state to two ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null As you can see, after change state ifstated execute only the *last* check command of the statement (ping2) forever.... This is the expected behavior ? I'm running 6-STABLE + ifstated-20050505 (instaled via /usr/ports/net/ifstated) Thanks for any help. Alexandre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:12:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0EE16A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDA613C457 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 11616 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2007 19:12:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (775067@[217.50.165.211]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Mar 2007 19:12:23 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:12:21 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070314201221.3503c338@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070314194527.W13133@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <20070314194527.W13133@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2008-08-18.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_ISNkNvkudscLV8GYnqbc0nY; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:12:26 -0000 --Sig_ISNkNvkudscLV8GYnqbc0nY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading > > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by > > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting > > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a > > relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale > > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling > > ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any > > dependencies. > > > > Why is this a bad idea! > > > because if you change say 5 lines in program source of 1MB binary=20 > program, resulting new 1MB binary will be MUCH different=20 > byte-by-byte mostly because of address shifting so lots of pointers to=20 > code (or data, rodata) will change. so diff will be big. Is that a guess or did you actually test and verify this? Fabian --Sig_ISNkNvkudscLV8GYnqbc0nY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF+EkVBYqIVf93VJ0RAqjMAJ9j96CnHZZzuqyWY3P2E0Ltsv2Q0QCeKGBG K3TZUvF1rGczUZMPhvIL4P4= =00Y5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_ISNkNvkudscLV8GYnqbc0nY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:14:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD7116A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:14:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BCC13C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EJEZXJ017672; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:14:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EJEYHg017668; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:14:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:14:34 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070314200924.C15351@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: FreeBSD laptop computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:14:36 -0000 i need to buy new notebook for personal use. Could you give me an advice what will be actually FULLY supported by FreeBSD. Other needs are: a) low price b) high reliability c) long battery run processing power and extra peripherals are not important, even slower NEW laptops are much more powerful that me needs. Especially WiFi is unneeded, LAN will be OK but it's not a problem to attach one. thank you very much From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:16:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7171116A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CEF13C45D for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EJFv0k017838; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:15:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EJFv2G017835; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:15:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:15:57 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Fabian Keil In-Reply-To: <20070314201221.3503c338@localhost> Message-ID: <20070314201455.V15351@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <20070314194527.W13133@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20070314201221.3503c338@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:16:02 -0000 >> code (or data, rodata) will change. so diff will be big. > > Is that a guess or did you actually test and verify this? > verified, but some time ago in linux, but i think it shouldn't make difference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:20:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B21C16A400; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0710313C44C; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn01.u.washington.edu (hymn01.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.55]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EJKeb2004171 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:20:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn01.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EJKeaM018896; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:20:40 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.4] by hymn01.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:20:40 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:20:40 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, In-Reply-To: <200703141715.l2EHFW7s011392@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.14.120934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Cc: Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:20:41 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Vince wrote: > > Sean Bryant wrote: > > > Andrew Reilly wrote: > > > > Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards > > > > that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of > > > > open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer > > > > system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. > > > > > > I never thought I'd actually recommend it but.... > > The Intel 82945GM controller in my laptop has semi ok 3d acceleration. > > I'm running the experimental xorg 7.2.r3 server with beryl and its > > running quite nicely. output of glinfo below if anyones interested. > > > > The performance doesnt compare to the nvidia drivers on my desktop at > > home but it does its job, wouldnt want to game on it though. > > Depends on the game. I'm also quite satisfied with the > intel i915/i945 graphics. If I had to buy a new laptop > right now, that would be my preference. > > The 3D acceleration is fast enough to play OpenGL games > such as ports/games/crack-attack smoothly at full-screen > resolution. > > Best regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. > Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Gesch=E4ftsfuehrun= g: > secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht M=FC= n- > chen, HRB 125758, Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Geb= hart > > FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, > One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. Intel's graphics line is ramping up too, so although the quality won't be a= s good as nVidia / ATI, it will continue to improve within the next couple = years. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:22:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715AF16A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E42B13C483 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn01.u.washington.edu (hymn01.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.55]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EJMlD3003224 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:22:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn01.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EJMlAj022761 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:22:47 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.4] by hymn01.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:22:47 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:22:47 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <64CD631E-C04C-498E-A71D-208287D5511D@messier.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.14.121433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: per-interface default routes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:22:48 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Mark Messier wrote: > Suppose you have a freebsd box with two LAN interfaces, > one numbered on netA and one on netB... > > Some applications are listening on the netA IP address, some on the > netB IP address. Some applications may be listening on all interfaces > but might have a directive that indicates which IP address to use for > packets sourced from the application, like this: > > query-source address 192.0.2.2 port 53; > > What I want to happen is that packets sourced from the > netA IP address go out the netA physical interface > and packets sourced from the > netB IP address go out the netB physical interface. > > That is, I want per-interface default routes > (is this the correct term?). > > How do I do this? > > Thanks, > -mark Route has more information if you want to setup default routes for interfaces. Either that, or natd will yield a solution for you. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:30:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FEA16A40D for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D901C13C4B8 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn01.u.washington.edu (hymn01.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.55]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EJTwIE005736 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:29:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn01.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2EJTwud000360 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:29:58 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.4] by hymn01.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:29:58 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:29:58 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070314201221.3503c338@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.14.121934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:30:01 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Fabian Keil wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading >>> foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by >>> downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting >>> /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a >>> relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale >>> upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling >>> ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any >>> dependencies. >>> >>> Why is this a bad idea! >>> >> because if you change say 5 lines in program source of 1MB binary >> program, resulting new 1MB binary will be MUCH different >> byte-by-byte mostly because of address shifting so lots of pointers to >> code (or data, rodata) will change. so diff will be big. > > Is that a guess or did you actually test and verify this? > > Fabian Well, this can be done by diffing two different copies of a similar binary. Frankly, binary patches should be done thought IMHO because like Wojciech mentioned the differences would be huge. Besides, the patches aren't portable, so the program would have to be recompiled in the target arch, diffed, then put to a patch file. This as a hunch / gut feeling I have, but the majority of the patches produced using this method would soon approach the original packages size (assuming that there were changes over the entire package and not a portion of it). If you're thinking of creating a hotfix system though, that would be a good idea (assuming everything's dynamically linked as opposed to statically linked). When M$ moved their patch release infrastructure to their current smaller one, update sizes did decrease by a fairly large amount (2-3+ times?). The only thing is that keeping track of versions becomes an important thing and making sure that you have all the successive patches in a line becomes a mess--hence, you have to go to the Windows update site multiple times to update one Windows component, like .NET 1.1 for instance. Just a few thoughts on the topic. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:35:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E1716A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72FF13C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EJZ8bU020387; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:35:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EJZ7KS020381; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:35:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:35:07 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: youshi10@u.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070314203437.F20305@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: per-interface default routes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:35:09 -0000 >> That is, I want per-interface default routes >> (is this the correct term?). >> >> How do I do this? >> >> Thanks, >> -mark > > Route has more information if you want to setup default routes for > interfaces. Either that, or natd will yield a solution for you. natd needs IPFW and is quite CPU consuming compared to just ipfw, which does very well what was asked for. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:36:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D1916A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B6013C484 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EJaRc7020548; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:36:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EJaQeg020545; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:36:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:36:26 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: youshi10@u.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070314203533.B20305@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:36:27 -0000 > Well, this can be done by diffing two different copies of a similar binary. > Frankly, binary patches should be done thought IMHO because like Wojciech > mentioned the differences would be huge. > actually i never user binary packages from freebsd site. this is no problem to compile from source as ports are fully automated, and setting at least CPUTYPE in make.conf allows to make it optimized for machine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:44:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A1E16A404 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from yertle.kcilink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [74.92.149.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7038613C44C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from [192.168.7.103] (host-103.int.kcilink.com [192.168.7.103]) by yertle.kcilink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEA9B80F for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1173779098.31466.20.camel@bert.mlan.solnet.ch> References: <1173779098.31466.20.camel@bert.mlan.solnet.ch> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-15-171353918; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: From: Vivek Khera Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:12:45 -0400 To: freebsd-questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: aaccli doesn't work with AOC-LPZCR2 (Supermicro) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:44:26 -0000 --Apple-Mail-15-171353918 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Mar 13, 2007, at 5:44 AM, Thomas Vogt wrote: > FreeBSD (6.2 and Current) boots and works perfectly. Only the storage > control program from port/sysutils/aaccli doesn't work with this > controller. > > aaccli open aac0: > Command Error: current controller software.> > > Is there a way to check the status from the Raid without it? Perhaps > with the linux aaccli? I doubt that adaptec is releasing a new aaccli > for freebsd soon. Yes, this is a problem for all modern adaptec RAID bios. I've been trying to get Scott Long to work on a monitoring solution for these newer cards and he expressed interest, but the project seems to have fallen off of his short list... Perhaps I shall ping him again. Care to share the consulting fee? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. MailerMailer, LLC Rockville, MD http://www.MailerMailer.com/ +1-301-869-4449 x806 --Apple-Mail-15-171353918-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:47:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A1216A404 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@messier.com) Received: from mainstreet.net (noc.mainstreet.net [207.5.0.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222F413C459 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@messier.com) Received: from [199.245.73.254] (cache.mainstreet.net [199.245.73.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by mainstreet.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2EJlbLI066317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:47:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@messier.com) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0A8464C8-EC5B-4276-8EDC-E5348F99806D@messier.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Messier Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:47:32 -0700 To: youshi10@u.washington.edu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: per-interface default routes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:47:38 -0000 >> Route has more information if you want to setup default routes for interfaces. I'm familiar with route(8)... but I don't see how that will work. Can you expand on your comment? I'm likely to do the ipfw approach suggested by Wojceich, as soon as I rebuild with "options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD", Thanks, -mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:48:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896BA16A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E2613C4B0 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so41835ugh for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:48:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jyJyJ8WpCwFLy/FvnL2DplsmfBcvBPqx8RVoc4LRL4Bg+b0butq/5rEGcGTR/FDiKJkzC0M6Ni2myQubS+VD0d6ugUVElEclkYroHft/ppp1F/8gjPPwjOmvzLI6da8j3jzpunz1qAzZsJT7PtTXYIoBjqXMXc/vFIiUUnJwUS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=McsBi0/EP0g8sr8pgKHAJ3XynuJzY8LSKXhAJtA+3VBuQbi4smFlbV+m8hXhvSeB3evQq1T0icAGfk74lpXYeZ6wY+L922HBBF+6rJX/VVlNdqcvjfrGiitE0ZhwhmC5vkzNguwIQlgPszpzg6pgwWycBA/oCYEal9l/gwn1TRE= Received: by 10.67.21.11 with SMTP id y11mr1539153ugi.1173901731863; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.237.17 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <755cb9fc0703141248r249d6788k67414c934c638ca3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:48:51 +0000 From: "Alexandre Vieira" To: "Wojciech Puchar" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070314200924.C15351@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070314200924.C15351@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD laptop computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:48:54 -0000 On 3/14/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > i need to buy new notebook for personal use. > > Could you give me an advice what will be actually FULLY supported by > FreeBSD. > > Other needs are: > > a) low price > b) high reliability > c) long battery run > > processing power and extra peripherals are not important, even slower NEW > laptops are much more powerful that me needs. > > Especially WiFi is unneeded, LAN will be OK but it's not a problem to > attach one. > > thank you very much > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi, I dont know about other laptops, just the one I own. It's an acer 1644WLMi. It's supported completely by freebsd. I bought it 1yr ago, now it should be very cheap. It has a 2.0ghz Centrino (Pentium M), 1GB RAM DDR, a 120GB 5200rpm disk, WiFi, USBx4, Intel High definition audio, Intel GMA 945 128MB, battery used to hold for more than 2hr in working mode. There's only a couple of things that you'll need to tweak: 1) snd_hda doesn't come in 6_RELENG.Check the multimedia mailing list to learn how to get it working (everything works great, speaker, line, mic, etc..) 2) The ACPI implementation has a couple of bytecodes fsckd up. You need to fix it and load the modified AML. Check the acpi mailing list to get some help on correcting this minor issue. Cheers -- Alexandre Vieira - nullpt@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:50:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CFB16A408 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5EA13C483 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so294396wxc for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:50:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ujI9z1pZk1stB2tnws7I7vRIc/8Z6uXJD0uTfAKVt2hngWnOn8EMV7kZn7XG1KJ49kmhiwN70JGNRtW9CGOdJSTIwJsc1A+rx9QbLv8eSzdh28bEr5rrvbIdAOKJ5N8yLYl+Q24OKX0Fdh6M7OEVOW11kjIAwz1ZMUWQUPKT5xs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HEvJ5EkTV9wl9jdHO4/YOKunA+1yEskO3C1Bc2L7e6jC2j+KDWpxTvOfk3xcEnTNmm7ROJTDoerdPn4clnOXmuIAQnkLF2U56C/GCAO0T6aDu//lKx5mrLh2r0usVKvwvLwzuNj7clZQ5e5Nf3TbnTZ+GBAiT7JjbwWiI1PFyFc= Received: by 10.90.88.13 with SMTP id l13mr7846479agb.1173901844856; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.164.13 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8e10486b0703141250i5e016058pbc5f6370144fa5c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:50:44 -0300 From: "Alexandre Biancalana" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <0A8464C8-EC5B-4276-8EDC-E5348F99806D@messier.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0A8464C8-EC5B-4276-8EDC-E5348F99806D@messier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: per-interface default routes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:50:45 -0000 On 3/14/07, Mark Messier wrote: > > >> Route has more information if you want to setup default routes > for interfaces. > > I'm familiar with route(8)... but I don't see how that will work. > Can you expand on your comment? > > I'm likely to do the ipfw approach suggested by Wojceich, > as soon as I rebuild with "options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD", This could be done with pf route-to too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:53:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9750116A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACE913C465 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EJr5oc022542; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:53:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EJr5ot022539; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:53:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:53:05 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Mark Messier In-Reply-To: <0A8464C8-EC5B-4276-8EDC-E5348F99806D@messier.com> Message-ID: <20070314205240.T22201@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <0A8464C8-EC5B-4276-8EDC-E5348F99806D@messier.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: youshi10@u.washington.edu, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: per-interface default routes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:53:05 -0000 >>> interfaces. > > I'm familiar with route(8)... but I don't see how that will work. > Can you expand on your comment? > > I'm likely to do the ipfw approach suggested by Wojceich, > as soon as I rebuild with "options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD", exactly, sorry i forgot to mention about that option. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 20:15:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3BB16A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.247.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1D113C459 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hxc@planet.nl) Received: from [192.168.0.141] ([80.60.30.253]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.15 (built Nov 14 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEW0035BTLDAG@smtp19.wxs.nl> for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:15:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:15:12 +0100 From: hxc@planet.nl In-reply-to: <45F72C49.8030706@netscape.net> To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <45F857D0.6000604@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070303) References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <200703131634.38837.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F6D4D5.3010509@planet.nl> <200703132043.03737.pieter@degoeje.nl> <45F70CC1.4010604@planet.nl> <45F70F97.9020300@hier7.com> <45F713C2.3080809@planet.nl> <45F72C49.8030706@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:15:14 -0000 Tore Lund wrote: > hxc@planet.nl wrote: > >> Chris Slothouber wrote: >> >>> What version of FreeBSD are you currently running. >>> > > Sorry for pressing the point, but it seems you have not yet told us > which version of FreeBSD you are running. > > >> /Darn this looks pretty complicated :-P >> > > In that case, it may be simpler to just back up a few directories and > install the latest version from scratch. > Hello all. I am afraid I have to throw in the towel. I tried updating FreeBSD 6.2 to stable and ran into several problems. After a weeks worth of fiddling to get my Nvidia drivers working I decided it's not worth it to invest more time. I am heading back to Gentoo Linux. Thanks all, your help has been really appreciated :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 20:24:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E46C16A40D for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@technologytiger.net) Received: from mx1.technologytiger.net (mx1.technologytiger.net [80.77.252.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E059D13C469 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:24:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@technologytiger.net) Received: from [192.168.135.253] (drew-imac.themarshalls.internal [192.168.135.253]) by mx1.technologytiger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034BF33C96 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:59:44 +0000 (GMT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0E2D5DE3-06C1-464F-9EED-AE5AB4312412@technologytiger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Drew Marshall Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:59:41 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-TechnologyTiger-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by the Technology Tiger MailScanner. Please contact support@technologytiger.net for details X-TechnologyTiger-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TechnologyTiger-Env-From: drew@technologytiger.net X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Apache 2.2.4 with mod_ssl start up problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:24:13 -0000 Hi I am running 6.0 on i386 and have updated apache22 with the latest and greatest from my cvsup'ed ports tree (I also think openssl was updated to the latest beta 0.9.8e, which might be connected or maybe not...) All went fine until I have come to restart Apache when I get this error: httpd: Syntax error on line 83 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_ssl.so into server: /usr/ local/libexec/apache22/mod_ssl.so: Undefined symbol "SSL_CTX_set_info_callback" Well line 83 is the module load line in httpd.conf and has always been there, so I think that's a red herring. I have done a large amount of Googleing and come across similar people with similar problems, one of which was not answered, one of which was fixed by a re-install from port (Which I have done twice now so I don't think that's it) and one that was in German. Now my German is embarrassingly bad and you can't get a decent translation when it comes to problem fixing so I am not much wiser except it was suggesting something about a linked library, ldd and something in a *. 4.so version of a library but that's about all I could grasp :-( Can any one shed any light as to which FM I need to R so I can RTFM or what I can do to fix this. Many thanks Drew -- In line with our policy, this message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Technology Tiger MailScanner. Further information can be found at www.technologytiger.net/policy Technology Tiger Limited is registered in Scotland with registration number: 310997 Registered Office 55-57 West High Street Inverurie AB51 3QQ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 20:48:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6991C16A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdscow@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A3B13C44B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdscow@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so337000ana for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:48:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=SGbxVskeqLsqlBGNBVmvuYMNvUWZckW3fBXBg9aZckbOBTmwbE2XB5K8vCbiteYPTtQkuXRHlAoo+OK300qZ+/KbdgpKmHW6fM3vp7FJhkRUk15FV8KfOSoobB/d9BPDp8aI0795iaTRH2JwGIQsI2Iq4fPo8f2Piz+3bxmIJEo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=D+kFg3LWLj6889GfcWdDVV6jnNPBkGLirrslt3Pz8RtJSW0Ek+8xF7RGI6ZoSX25X3rhlxrXT4BJtpoF7iRHDp+h3MZsUi9RYFp2dvspuhYdFDtwAidrNjtbHP0KK+BMuBsVb3N/FIAI8F6M+pQBvvX/Q801I2TFYdg2CLnoMz8= Received: by 10.100.94.3 with SMTP id r3mr2551964anb.1173903669552; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.4? ( [24.227.198.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 14sm9719143wrl.2007.03.14.13.21.08; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <73B70035-8432-45A9-A5BE-FBB083C21C94@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Roger Scow Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:21:04 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Have screwed up my longin and password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:48:41 -0000 I am totally new to FreeBSD, and have installed it and Gnome2/X11. Somewhere in the process I have either corrupted or lost my password and user name access. When I try to log into Gnome, either as root or as username, it is a no go. I know that I set up myself as a user, and set a root password when I was installing. What do I do now? Can I restart from the install CD and go back into Sysinstall? I'm running FreeBSD 6.2 on a Macbook Pro, via Parallels Desktop. Thanks very much and sorry for such a stupid predicament. Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 20:51:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EF716A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917E813C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2EKpL8g029548; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:51:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2EKpLOG029543; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:51:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:51:21 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Alexandre Biancalana In-Reply-To: <8e10486b0703141250i5e016058pbc5f6370144fa5c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070314215033.E29424@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <0A8464C8-EC5B-4276-8EDC-E5348F99806D@messier.com> <8e10486b0703141250i5e016058pbc5f6370144fa5c1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: per-interface default routes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:51:22 -0000 >> I'm likely to do the ipfw approach suggested by Wojceich, >> as soon as I rebuild with "options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD", > > > This could be done with pf route-to too. yes. but ipfw is most universal having all needed things at one place. firewalling, routing, shaping, etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 20:59:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4118516A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@designaproduct.biz) Received: from designaproduct.biz (135-shost.hostoffice.hu [195.228.74.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0332B13C46E for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@designaproduct.biz) Received: from [172.16.0.43] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by designaproduct.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CADD1DD422 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:52:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45F86213.10604@designaproduct.biz> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:58:59 +0100 From: Laszlo Nagy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sendmail not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:59:02 -0000 Hi All, Got a problem with FreeBSD 6.2 (upgraded from 6.1): cron is not sending out e-mails. However, it is running: messias# ps ax | grep cron 988 ?? Ss 0:01.86 /usr/sbin/cron -s But, if I write this into the crontab of root: SHELL=/bin/csh * * * * * echo "Test" then I do not get any e-mail. This machine has an ssh tunnel that forwards TCP/25 port to another machine. Postfix is installed on this machine, but it is not enabled. I believe that sendmail should work for local addresses, even if the SMTP server is not listening locally. At least, sendmail(8) tells this: With no flags, sendmail reads its standard input up to an end-of-file or a line consisting only of a single dot and sends a copy of the mes- sage found there to all of the addresses listed. It determines the network(s) to use based on the syntax and contents of the addresses. Local addresses are looked up in a file and aliased appropriately. Here is a quick test that I did: messias# sendmail gandalf Test2 . messias# mail Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. "/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message > 1 MAILER-DAEMON@messia Fri Nov 10 12:27 13/664 "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA" & I have many scripts that I would like to run from cron. Probably they throw errors, but I have no clue what are those errors, because I'm not getting mails from cron. What should I do? Another question: is it possible to setup cron so that it uses a different SMTP server for sending e-mails? If so, can I specify this for one user only? Well, the obvious solution would be to create a special user and create a .forward file, right? Thanks in advance, Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 21:10:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1897516A406 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB17E13C457 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so320912wxc for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:10:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tcWcVclVKLvqIoq7+qq5EY29aH/SrPX2imU2OZE9dzk1AWMYVevqIDgu4VXTNteLNKwbRlJEd4HNiqa8BRPo5FozHtqWg9r4CLVsmNI3lTgQc6yjfbVvgKNu+s5B+LTt19C118Ht/azjr2ImCnfJvJ17z3DGJeBBpEWTi0x8WeI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hfBf+kwRxMKFRlwtO7x1judRihhfi1meknm21HLjqeNFWSJOdWpjKwF3drAKOrqS+DaI1EuAI02gwmgaJpVT5twJz9ALdrxzaMrOZvGiMBhxRpyvUx7GQpvVS9SDw/K3/SApvvEuLFgv84GEI9xGD53DOVM1bODdKuQ9vVfcMsk= Received: by 10.65.210.18 with SMTP id m18mr5214400qbq.1173906621851; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.164.13 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8e10486b0703141410n63874da3lf4b4b2ba5fe90d87@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:10:21 -0300 From: "Alexandre Biancalana" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070314215033.E29424@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0A8464C8-EC5B-4276-8EDC-E5348F99806D@messier.com> <8e10486b0703141250i5e016058pbc5f6370144fa5c1@mail.gmail.com> <20070314215033.E29424@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: per-interface default routes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:10:24 -0000 On 3/14/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >> I'm likely to do the ipfw approach suggested by Wojceich, > >> as soon as I rebuild with "options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD", > > > > > > This could be done with pf route-to too. > > yes. but ipfw is most universal having all needed things at one place. > firewalling, routing, shaping, etc. > PF too. is all at same place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 21:10:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBD316A4D2 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:10:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A905A13C455 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2EL9v2a059282; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:09:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070314160910.024dc2f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:09:49 -0500 To: Laszlo Nagy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <45F86213.10604@designaproduct.biz> References: <45F86213.10604@designaproduct.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: sendmail not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:10:28 -0000 You need to make sure sendmail is starting and running. Check your rc.conf and any variables that might need to be set. -Derek At 03:58 PM 3/14/2007, Laszlo Nagy wrote: > Hi All, > >Got a problem with FreeBSD 6.2 (upgraded from 6.1): cron is not sending >out e-mails. However, it is running: > >messias# ps ax | grep cron >988 ?? Ss 0:01.86 /usr/sbin/cron -s > >But, if I write this into the crontab of root: > >SHELL=/bin/csh >* * * * * echo "Test" > > >then I do not get any e-mail. This machine has an ssh tunnel that forwards >TCP/25 port to another machine. Postfix is installed on this machine, but >it is not enabled. I believe that sendmail should work for local >addresses, even if the SMTP server is not listening locally. At least, >sendmail(8) tells this: > > > With no flags, sendmail reads its standard input up to an end-of-file > or a line consisting only of a single dot and sends a copy of the mes- > sage found there to all of the addresses listed. It determines the > network(s) to use based on the syntax and contents of the addresses. > > Local addresses are looked up in a file and aliased >appropriately. > > >Here is a quick test that I did: > >messias# sendmail gandalf >Test2 >. >messias# mail >Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. >"/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message > > 1 MAILER-DAEMON@messia Fri Nov 10 12:27 13/664 "DON'T DELETE THIS > MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA" >& > >I have many scripts that I would like to run from cron. Probably they >throw errors, but I have no clue what are those errors, because I'm not >getting mails from cron. What should I do? > >Another question: is it possible to setup cron so that it uses a different >SMTP server for sending e-mails? If so, can I specify this for one user >only? Well, the obvious solution would be to create a special user and >create a .forward file, right? > >Thanks in advance, > > Laszlo > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 21:23:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B2416A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from smtp.enternet.hu (smtp.enternet.hu [62.112.192.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C699E13C45D for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:23:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from [62.68.179.180] (helo=[172.16.0.43]) by smtp.enternet.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4) id 1HRawT-000CVX-S8; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:23:29 +0100 Message-ID: <45F867D4.4060405@freemail.hu> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:23:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nagy_L=E1szl=F3_Zsolt?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Ragona , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45F86213.10604@designaproduct.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20070314160910.024dc2f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20070314160910.024dc2f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: sendmail not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:23:32 -0000 Derek Ragona wrote > You need to make sure sendmail is starting and running. Check your > rc.conf and any variables that might need to be set. Thanks! In my rc.conf: sendmail_enable="NO" However, as I wrote, I was using postfix. I'm not a big guru but I believe that postfix has its own daemon and it has a sendmail binary that is compatible with the system default sendmail. Anyway, your comment helped me a lot! I upgraded to 6.2 some weeks ago and probably I did not reactivate postfix in /etc/mail/mailer.conf. Additionally, probably I forgot to merge the old mailer.conf with the new one. I changed my rc.conf to this: sendmail_enable="NO" postfix_enable="YES" Then I started postfix: messias# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix start postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail system messias# ps ax | grep postf 68249 ?? Ss 0:00.01 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master Yet I still do not get my emails: messias# mail gandalf Subject: Test3 . EOT Null message body; hope that's ok messias# mail Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. "/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message > 1 MAILER-DAEMON@messia Fri Nov 10 12:27 13/664 "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA" & q messias# sendmail gandalf Test4. . messias# mail Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. "/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message > 1 MAILER-DAEMON@messia Fri Nov 10 12:27 13/664 "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA" & q Pawing in the dark... Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 21:29:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB6C16A402 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2E913C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:29:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2ELSbph059544; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:28:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070314162722.025238b0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:28:28 -0500 To: Nagy =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=E1szl=F3?= Zsolt , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <45F867D4.4060405@freemail.hu> References: <45F86213.10604@designaproduct.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20070314160910.024dc2f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> <45F867D4.4060405@freemail.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: sendmail not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:29:03 -0000 Postfix is the mail transfer agent, or MTA. That means it does the local= =20 delivery. In a sendmail only server you have two instances of sendmail=20 running one to send the mail, one as the MTA. You need at least one runnin= g. -Derek At 04:23 PM 3/14/2007, Nagy L=E1szl=F3 Zsolt wrote: >Derek Ragona wrote >>You need to make sure sendmail is starting and running. Check your=20 >>rc.conf and any variables that might need to be set. >Thanks! > >In my rc.conf: > >sendmail_enable=3D"NO" > >However, as I wrote, I was using postfix. I'm not a big guru but I believe= =20 >that postfix has its own daemon and it has a sendmail binary that is=20 >compatible with the system default sendmail. > >Anyway, your comment helped me a lot! I upgraded to 6.2 some weeks ago and= =20 >probably I did not reactivate postfix in /etc/mail/mailer.conf.=20 >Additionally, probably I forgot to merge the old mailer.conf with the new= =20 >one. I changed my rc.conf to this: > >sendmail_enable=3D"NO" >postfix_enable=3D"YES" > >Then I started postfix: > >messias# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix start >postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail system >messias# ps ax | grep postf >68249 ?? Ss 0:00.01 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master > >Yet I still do not get my emails: > >messias# mail gandalf >Subject: Test3 >. >EOT >Null message body; hope that's ok >messias# mail >Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. >"/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message > > 1 MAILER-DAEMON@messia Fri Nov 10 12:27 13/664 "DON'T DELETE THIS= =20 > MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA" >& q >messias# sendmail gandalf >Test4. >. >messias# mail >Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help. >"/var/mail/gandalf": 1 message > > 1 MAILER-DAEMON@messia Fri Nov 10 12:27 13/664 "DON'T DELETE THIS= =20 > MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA" >& q > >Pawing in the dark... > > Laszlo > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 21:46:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F7C16A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonmaster@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9229413C44B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonmaster@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so353326ana for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:46:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=B/PWrZT4tlvJrxnx6k0UzadjN1DaPMH6zF1W5Gr+bh4ny1JHehOHRLTkVXtelxhXXfbwGLKwe/e92yQ39yEsf+/wOZ/eYdeObKjI+763fmUZ1ROZxwPzGtn9b31JJWCj/cR1S07/q17GpszpzctEncT7WYd6EneZYbbuBV3O6Lo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RxZ4BTR0oYxegvfAHaWyT286UAzyl2Z6Wh6QBpAqG8YUFDRBhm9WUBzgGCqR+rmFTTLSqMHpmuMBw/jN7HjbF2Gks4PF9dGUohAhd9aqTiWu3JBVbrWy8cgnHiDVxWX4xJbe2ftskCPkC+9yruqGxWeyl1U6mYOZxukMIuJxf0c= Received: by 10.100.37.4 with SMTP id k4mr2621804ank.1173907120865; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.164.19 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1455a3d90703141418ldcfb33al5411eed4c3a8b71a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:18:40 -0300 From: freenity To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:46:33 -0000 Helo. Im new to FreeBSD and need some help. I have installed FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASEfor amd64. I have a 18n-vm mother board. And the problem is with its onboard sound card. It seems that its not detected. I tried to use kldload snd_ich but it didnt helped. The output of cat /dev/sndstat is> $ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: $ Thanks for any help. Anton. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 21:47:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427ED16A404 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB87A13C458 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so331757wxc for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.56.14 with SMTP id e14mr7982218aga.1173908822341; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 32sm10122341wri.2007.03.14.14.47.01; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:46:57 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070314174657.4741d926@localhost> In-Reply-To: <45F867D4.4060405@freemail.hu> References: <45F86213.10604@designaproduct.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20070314160910.024dc2f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> <45F867D4.4060405@freemail.hu> Organization: Seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.1 (GTK+ 2.10.10; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_bjDD_aEX1WBD6/yZkakHbPC"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: sendmail not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:47:03 -0000 --Sig_bjDD_aEX1WBD6/yZkakHbPC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:23:32 +0100 Nagy L=E1szl=F3 Zsolt wrote: > Derek Ragona wrote > > You need to make sure sendmail is starting and running. Check your=20 > > rc.conf and any variables that might need to be set. =20 > Thanks! >=20 > In my rc.conf: >=20 > sendmail_enable=3D"NO" >=20 > However, as I wrote, I was using postfix. I'm not a big guru but I=20 > believe that postfix has its own daemon and it has a sendmail binary=20 > that is compatible with the system default sendmail. >=20 > Anyway, your comment helped me a lot! I upgraded to 6.2 some weeks > ago and probably I did not reactivate postfix > in /etc/mail/mailer.conf. Additionally, probably I forgot to merge > the old mailer.conf with the new one. I changed my rc.conf to this: >=20 > sendmail_enable=3D"NO" > postfix_enable=3D"YES" >=20 > Then I started postfix: You haven't configured it correctly. To enable postfix startup script please add postfix_enable=3D"YES" in your rc.conf If you not need Sendmail anymore, please add in your rc.conf: sendmail_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_submit_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_outbound_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable=3D"NO" And you can disable some sendmail specific daily maintenance routines in your /etc/periodic.conf file: daily_clean_hoststat_enable=3D"NO" daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=3D"NO" daily_status_include_submit_mailq=3D"NO" daily_submit_queuerun=3D"NO" You also need to modify the /etc/mail/mailer.conf file. This is done automatically by postfix. If your version is not current, you might want to update it. That will insure that the mailer.conf file is properly updated. Be sure to get a fresh copy of the ports tree before updating. Guessing and putting in the wrong information can get you into trouble. You should also probably reboot after making all of the changes to insure that everything starts correctly and that 'Sendmail' is totally shut down. Ciao! --=20 Gerard We can defeat gravity. The problem is the paperwork involved. --Sig_bjDD_aEX1WBD6/yZkakHbPC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF+G1SFCqdq4D1ybYRAs/fAJ4q9tILBE8+xxGyoCaGKIsNswLvGACgsOvM d50o4RD971/AC4h/83ivW1M= =4e5u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_bjDD_aEX1WBD6/yZkakHbPC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 22:13:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A90016A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1D113C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (host5.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.229]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l2EMCpv0017298 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:13:09 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2EMCWBv003044; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:12:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2EMCUCi002978; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:12:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:12:30 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20070314221230.GB97270@kobe.laptop> References: <20070314200924.C15351@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070314200924.C15351@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.505, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.69, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD laptop computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:13:28 -0000 On 2007-03-14 20:14, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > i need to buy new notebook for personal use. > > Could you give me an advice what will be actually FULLY supported by > FreeBSD. > > Other needs are: > > a) low price > b) high reliability > c) long battery run > > processing power and extra peripherals are not important, even slower NEW > laptops are much more powerful that me needs. > > Especially WiFi is unneeded, LAN will be OK but it's not a problem to > attach one. I'm running CURRENT on a Toshiba Satellite U200. There's a minor catch-22 with these laptops, because their internal fxp0 NIC is not yet supported by RELENG_6, but it works fine on CVS HEAD. So, to install CURRENT on it, I had to bootstrap from a snapshot from ftp.freebsd.org. Another minor nit is that I haven't really tried a lot to get the internal Intel-based WiFi adapter to work. I have a D-Link DWL-AG650 (H/W Ver: B2) PC-Card, which is Atheros-based and works like a charm. The snd_hda driver supports the audio chipset of this laptop quite nicely, and Ariff has committed to CURRENT a patch which fixes a minor glitch (plugging in head-phones wouldn't turn the speakers off). All in all, this has been an excellent buy for me, and I'm planning to bump the physical memory to 1GB or more "real soon now" :) Battery-life is almost 3 hours, which is probably short for some of the more modern laptops. I haven't tested using the same laptop with one of the special Toshiba batteries, though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 22:16:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D039A16A403 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:16:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C99513C455 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l2EMGJox026062; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:16:19 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:16:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <1455a3d90703141418ldcfb33al5411eed4c3a8b71a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1455a3d90703141418ldcfb33al5411eed4c3a8b71a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703142316.18842.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freenity Subject: Re: sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:16:26 -0000 On Wednesday 14 March 2007 22:18, freenity wrote: > Helo. > Im new to FreeBSD and need some help. I have installed FreeBSD > 6.2-RELEASEfor amd64. I have a 18n-vm mother board. And the problem is > with its onboard > sound card. It seems that its not detected. I tried to use kldload snd_ich > but it didnt helped. > The output of cat /dev/sndstat is> > > > $ cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) > Installed devices: > $ Please post the output of: pciconf -vl | grep -B 4 audio - Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 22:23:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB9E16A404 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miguel.alc@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB5013C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miguel.alc@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so366561wrq for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:23:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; 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Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.164.19 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1455a3d90703141556g1c4a0bbbvc18672bcfb2a4973@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:56:12 -0300 From: freenity To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200703142316.18842.pieter@degoeje.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1455a3d90703141418ldcfb33al5411eed4c3a8b71a@mail.gmail.com> <200703142316.18842.pieter@degoeje.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:56:14 -0000 Thanks for answers. kldload snd_driver didnt help. and pciconf -vl | grep -B 4 audio doesnt output anything. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 22:59:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D16016A406 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from green.dls.net (green.dls.net [209.242.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6797713C480 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from emailrob.com (216-145-235-198.rev.dls.net [216.145.235.198]) by green.dls.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85D24120EA for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:34:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <45F87894.20101@emailrob.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:35:00 +0000 From: spellberg_robert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd_questions References: <45E4B495.8000503@emailrob.com> <45E52699.3050902@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: why can't i turn off fast_time? [ success w/ post_mortem ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:59:58 -0000 greetings, all --- i've been meaning to write a whole lot sooner. too many non_maskable interrupts. thank you, matthew. thank you, duane. as it eventuated, i spent all day for four days, mar_01_thu through 04_sun, working on this. most of the results occurred thursday, but i wound up being snowed in on friday, most of which i spent hacking. saturday and sunday were spent refining and exploring source for use in alternative solutions to be implemented "when i have some free time". duane --- the solution you proposed is perfect. further, it is truly elegant. i only spent about three minutes on it thursday night. after all of the various things that i had tried, it is the approach that i chose to implement. matthew --- i recognized your name from other sources in my possession, so i was heartened to see you respond. although your solution did not exactly address the problem as stated, it was sufficiently close to something that i had tried that i chose to work with it first. i will summarize. i selected a victim^H^H^H^H^H^Htest machine. my /etc/localtime [ well, the last one i left there last summer ] was .../Etc/Europe/London. my TZ was set to "gmt0". i rebooted and verified that the mobo was on utc. i removed TZ. i copied Factory, London, New_York, Indianapolis, Chicago, Denver, Phoenix, Los_Angeles, UTC, GMT, GMT+5, GMT+6, GMT+7 and GMT+8 to /etc, giving them names that are substantially similar, but which start with "localtime." for the benefit of "ls -a l*". i would reboot frequently to check the mobo clock and to set the date to march or june. rebooting also let me verify the timestamps being logged, in real time, during startup and shutdown. i think these use /etc/localtime but not TZ. i stopped rebooting once i verified what date(1) did to the mobo clock. i discovered that /bin/tcsh resets the timestamp "percent_escapes" for its prompt variable only at login, while date(1) checks on each invocation. i believe this to be a major source of my confusion. i believe another source was not making a distinction between "date" and "date -u" [ i thought i was in utc, but maybe i wasn't always ? ]. further, to me, utc is local time and the other zones are all remote time. however, these routines think the user's zone time is local and utc is remote. also, to me, chicago is london MINUS six. einstein was right; it's all about one's frame_of_reference. i did most of my testing with Chicago, GMT+6, GMT and UTC, with winter and summer dates. once i was satisfied, i copied GMT+6 to a new file i named CST. using vi, i changed the string to "CST" and the length to four. it's a good thing the length wasn't ten [ hey, it's a kloodge ]. thoughtfully, vi added the "missing" newline at the end of the "line". checking the source for localtime(3), i don't believe the extra byte will be a problem. i'll fix this "when i have some free time". while localtime(3) itself checks /etc/localtime, i get the idea to create a routine that will read other files in "localtime format", so that i can have utc, local standard time, local legal time and [ thanks to a messy formula in dershowitz and reingold, "calendrical calculations", cambridge press, 1997 ] apparent solar time [ woo_hoo !!! ], all at the same time. i hacked similar files for EST, MST and PST. all of these have names beginning with "/etc/localtime.". then, i "ln -f" to the file of interest. later, looking at the link count, i can see immediately which file is /etc/localtime. three examples of my naming convention [ i'm big on filename completion, e. g., "l*zm6" ]: /etc/localtime.m6_.usz.etc.gmt+6.zm6 /etc/localtime.m6a.usz.america.chicago.zm6a /etc/localtime.m6h.cst.zm6h "usz" is short for "usr/share/zoneinfo". "h" is the hacked file. "zm" is "zulu minus". i also added a file "/etc/localtime.readme.r", wherein i explained all of this to myself. for the record, i have stopped using TZ. now i know how to do "localtime format" files, so i don't think i need it. i never used tzsetup(8). i confess that there --was-- some serendipity. for example, about midway through thursday, the most productive question i asked myself was, "why is this off by seven hours when it should be off by five?". if matthew had told me "GMT" instead of "GMT+6", i would have been +/- an hour around zero hours instead of being around six hours. then, i would have chalked it up to being backwards instead of forwards instead of forwards instead of backwards [ or is it the other way around ? ]. i think the reason the existing documentation is insufficiently clear [ and i went through a lot of it ! ] is because the authors assume [ correctly, for the overwhelming majority of people ] that the user wants their timestamps in local legal time. when an eccentric like me comes along wanting to do something unanticipated [ i don't set my clock ahead, the outside world starts "running early" ], it becomes a challenge. perhaps, after creating all of these time_zone_history files, over however long a period of time it took, the various authors of these files decided they had done enough. i can understand this; especially after i examined certain counties in indiana and kentucky that couldn't make up their minds [ maybe it depended on who won the election ]. i submit this much information on the off_chance that there exists another person in this world who does things this way and they try searching the mailing list archives. no need to respond unless somebody wants to, in which case, please cc me as i am not subscribed to -questions. again, i thank you. rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 23:01:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19A216A405 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C2C13C448 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2EN13JW032786; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:01:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2EN0rFT032324; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:00:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:00:41 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Gabor Kovesdan Message-ID: <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <45F81DCF.6050309@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F81DCF.6050309@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:01:29 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:07:43PM +0100, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Gary Kline schrieb: > > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading > > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by > > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting > > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a > > relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale > > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling > > ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any > > dependencies. > > > > Why is this a bad idea! > > > > gary > > > The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g. which > version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you have used, > what options the port you built it. Some of these applies to packages as > well, that's why I prefer ports over packages at all. E.g. let's see > lang/php5. It does not have the apache module enabled by default. If it > were, then the problem comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the > default now, but what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your > apache version from package? The situtation has been already pretty > complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine tuning, but > you can use them if you don't have special needs. Binary diffs would be > so complicated that I think this way we could really not follow. > > If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It has an > option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it fetch packages > instead of building from source. Nowadays, this network traffic should > not be a real problem, I think. > You've brought up a lot of things I didn't consider; this was part of the reason for my post. It seems to me that there would need to be some simple ground rules from the binary patches I'm got in mind. The *default* CFLAGS in the port would match those in the patch is one place to start. Obviously, this could get way out of hand very quickly. Two of my slowest servers (one 400MHz, 192M RAM) were rebuilding parts of the KDE suite; the new kdelib-3.5.6 [??] just finished and I already scp'd it over to my more beefy platform. Once I've got all my servers up to date, it may not be that hard to keep them current. You're right that bandwidth isn't a problem--um, in most places {{ clearing my throat! }}. Bandwidth isn't the main issue. It's time. cheers! gary > Regards, > Gabor > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 23:04:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112A916A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D2D13C43E for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so372826ana for ; 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1455a3d90703141418ldcfb33al5411eed4c3a8b71a@mail.gmail.com> <200703142316.18842.pieter@degoeje.nl> <1455a3d90703141556g1c4a0bbbvc18672bcfb2a4973@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:04:27 -0000 On 3/14/07, freenity wrote: > Thanks for answers. > > kldload snd_driver didnt help. > > and pciconf -vl | grep -B 4 audio doesnt output anything. try with pciconf -vl | grep -iB 4 audio or pciconf -vl 1 grep -iB 4 multimedia sometimes the class is multimedia, or [Aa]udio is included in the name of the device.. -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 23:08:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127C116A400 for ; 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charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <660DD7E4-AEBB-4451-A262-AAF3707A0C2C@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:08:26 -0700 To: freenity X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:08:29 -0000 On Mar 14, 2007, at 3:56 PM, freenity wrote: > Thanks for answers. > > kldload snd_driver didnt help. > > and pciconf -vl | grep -B 4 audio doesnt output anything. That implies that nothing recognized as an audio device has been configured by your BIOS. You might want to double-check your BIOS settings and make sure that the on-board sound is enabled, and/or check for a BIOS update.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 23:12:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D1816A400 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonmaster@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860A613C44C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonmaster@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so374777ana for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:12:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b1SF2AHtmkTfWqRqoao5Mp1p8vjcOGJBADiEHjif6LF9cY/amxVvfHkJm0UCum3viBSbSJDI3kb0qUTNGil7FhvRrjZmGhXxj1XOhQwJGS69uqFW9AG19BC1tpkDtW+Jg7B6zcgeymbpW+7wGpEq7jOdhtRqFVavtBdFAaXZK7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eHHW2W2eAe1Gr1p88Cvb33yjDaMP5A3G22qG64KZATTLMA9jqMhlhvbILA3W5smfzyWAFhYucsbvidtMq7gAXxx8Kg8yJZEXOykkEXwH9CO2T6GwJegHL+yTDyv+rVmmaN0sIx5fdysT7de1/N3Ssdoa3tCMHe7YG4xS/s28TTU= Received: by 10.100.106.5 with SMTP id e5mr2615679anc.1173913955773; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.164.19 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1455a3d90703141612k50850957n75957e66f92d03af@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:12:35 -0300 From: freenity To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <660DD7E4-AEBB-4451-A262-AAF3707A0C2C@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1455a3d90703141418ldcfb33al5411eed4c3a8b71a@mail.gmail.com> <200703142316.18842.pieter@degoeje.nl> <1455a3d90703141556g1c4a0bbbvc18672bcfb2a4973@mail.gmail.com> <660DD7E4-AEBB-4451-A262-AAF3707A0C2C@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:12:36 -0000 yes multimedia worked. output: $ pciconf -vl | grep -iB 4 multimedia class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI none11@pci0:16:1: class=0x040300 card=0xcb8410de chip=0x026c10de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' class = multimedia $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 23:35:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F6F16A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB5C13C45B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2ENZGOE066528; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:35:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2ENZGk6066527; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:35:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:35:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: youshi10@u.washington.edu Message-ID: <20070314233515.GB96282@thought.org> References: <20070314201221.3503c338@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:35:11 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:29:58PM -0700, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Fabian Keil wrote: > > >Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >>> Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading > >>> foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by > >>> downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting > >>> /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a > >>> relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale > >>> upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling > >>> ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any > >>> dependencies. > >>> > >>> Why is this a bad idea! > >>> > >>because if you change say 5 lines in program source of 1MB binary > >>program, resulting new 1MB binary will be MUCH different > >>byte-by-byte mostly because of address shifting so lots of pointers to > >>code (or data, rodata) will change. so diff will be big. > > > >Is that a guess or did you actually test and verify this? > > > >Fabian > > Well, this can be done by diffing two different copies of a similar binary. > Frankly, binary patches should be done thought IMHO because like Wojciech > mentioned the differences would be huge. > > Besides, the patches aren't portable, so the program would have to be > recompiled in the target arch, diffed, then put to a patch file. This as a > hunch / gut feeling I have, but the majority of the patches produced using > this method would soon approach the original packages size (assuming that > there were changes over the entire package and not a portion of it). All valid points. How far the idea of patches goes would clearly depend on how many type/flavors of patches there were and how many version. I've crom things to update daily, so for me, the max-diffs would be 2. Using "foo" above: if I had foo-2.1.9_5 and somehow missed _6 and _7, too bad; a rebuild or package download would be needed. The main thing (as I understand the issue) would be the size of the patch. A small reorg of binary can mean a large patch... . > > If you're thinking of creating a hotfix system though, that would be a good > idea (assuming everything's dynamically linked as opposed to statically > linked). When M$ moved their patch release infrastructure to their current > smaller one, update sizes did decrease by a fairly large amount (2-3+ > times?). The only thing is that keeping track of versions becomes an > important thing and making sure that you have all the successive patches in > a line becomes a mess--hence, you have to go to the Windows update site > multiple times to update one Windows component, like .NET 1.1 for instance. Yep. I (may) know somebody at M$ who says that they've got headaches that a million Exceedrin wouldn't help. A friend tried to patch his recent XP to get the new daylight time. He gave up after an hour of ping-ponging around. gary > > Just a few thoughts on the topic. > -Garrett > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:00:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3EE16A406; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from louisk@cryptomonkeys.com) Received: from abeyance.cryptomonkeys.com (abeyance.cryptomonkeys.com [67.42.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E938F13C469; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from louisk@cryptomonkeys.com) Received: from localhost (client.trendmicro.com [66.35.254.64]) (authenticated bits=0) by abeyance.cryptomonkeys.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2EIZ6MZ022228 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:35:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:35:05 -0700 From: Louis Kowolowski To: Sean Bryant Message-ID: <20070314183504.GE1496@cryptomonkeys.com> Mail-Followup-To: Sean Bryant , Andrew Reilly , freebsdfree.linuxsir@alpha.blogger.com, Kip Macy , Nikolas@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Britton References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> User-Agent: TV Remote 3.2b X-Disclaimer: WARNING: May contain scarcasm! 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:00:26 -0000 --Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:55:20AM -0400, Sean Bryant wrote: =2E.. > Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated= =20 > but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work= =20 > for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that.= =20 > It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver= =20 > is working just fine for me. > On a Thinkpad T60p, using the vesa driver using GLGears, I get a little=20 better than 30fps at 1600x1200x32 on a 15" display. Good enough for me. --=20 Louis Kowolowski KE7BAX louisk@cryptomonkeys.com Cryptomonkeys: http://www.cryptomonkeys.com/~louisk Warning: Do not point laser at remaining eye! --Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF+EBYZk0r6oAkN7YRAgNwAKCTskIC2wAjkbPGYV8pVWgYslrm5gCfbk5J Cxc7ZU/qS2Z0ybh10u6SRjs= =nMRS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 23:38:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B06D16A404 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de (mo-p00-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D11813C46C for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) Received: from postit (frnk-590c4daf.pool.einsundeins.de [89.12.77.175]) by post.webmailer.de (mrclete mo12) (RZmta 5.1) with ESMTP id 901d3bj2EMNJ64 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:27:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from www.home.roberte.eu (localhost.home.roberte.eu [127.0.0.1]) by postit (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2ENRTWF019205 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:27:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) From: "Robert Eckardt" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:27:29 +0100 Message-Id: <20070314215639.M99480@Robert-Eckardt.de> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.183.50 (roberte) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-RZG-AUTH: kN+8IwndSMLtCuBFVkRfThJXBOX2xi0RUSsjpsWeoPRmTmyCUDrmirx0jJobKkIgjKZV X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Cc: Subject: Did I take the wrong bus with FreeBSD 6 to VMware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:38:36 -0000 Hi, for some time I'm trying to get FreeBSD 6 running on my server as a host for VMware and several other functions. I'm using a 1.7GHz Pentium M 735 on an AOpen i855GMEm-LFS mobo w/ USB, VGA, 2xGbit/s, 2xPATA channels etc. on board. I used to run FBSD-5.2.1 with vmware3 on an Epox mobo w/ a 2GHz Celeron without problems. After changing HW (mobo, CPU, HDD) and OS (FBSD6.0) I found the system to "freeze" upon accessing an USB device when vmware was running. So my first investigations led to its driver, but in some cases heavy disk I/O was sufficient to cause a freeze. Since the situation got worse with FreeBSD 6.2 I started to work on it more systematically and found the following (actually I was on the verge to switch to Linux CentOS 4.4 or OpenSUSE 10.2 with VMware Server running nicely, but the HD and network performance were disappointing): 1)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" disabled in BIOS, vmware3 started: vmware3 runs fine, but no USB devices. 2)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, vmware3 started: system "freezes" with network connections breaking, endless messages ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES ENABLE RCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES ENABLE WCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly ad2: WARNING: - SET_MULTI taskq..... ad2: FAILURE [or TIMEOUT] - WRITE:DMA timed out [or retrying] LBA=.... g_vs_done():ad2s1e[WRITE(offset=...., length=....)]error = 5 typing reboot will finally reboot the system after several hours, nothing in the logs though. 3)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, additional PCI-VGA card installed, using either PCI-VGA *or* on-board VGA, vmware3 started: vmware3 runs fine, also when accessing the USB device. 4)**ACPI on, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, additional PCI-VGA card installed, using on-board VGA, vmware3 started: system "freezes" with messages above. So, what's the relation between the scenarios? Where can I tweak the system to get it stable? Since I spend already several man-days on getting VMware running on my machine, I would like to help further debugging by making additional tests, but I don't know where to start. I can live without ACPI (for the time being) -- the old system consumes 125W while the Pentium M machine stays at 42W with ACPI taking about another 8W in idle-state. For me it seems essential why enabling/disabling USB in the BIOS or adding an additional PCI-VGA card stabilizes the system and why the unstable system behaves the same way like with enabling ACPI. I put some boot_verbose-logs on http://www.robert-eckardt.de/ghost/ Regards, Robert -- Dr. Robert Eckardt --- Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 23:55:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D2916A401 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (7-137-58-66.gci.net [66.58.137.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A76613C480 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F807DA1; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:55:42 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: FreeBSD Port Maintainer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:55:15 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <45F81DCF.6050309@FreeBSD.org> <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2087597.t8U6J7WO62"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200703141555.36585.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: Gary Kline , Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beech@alaskaparadise.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:55:44 -0000 --nextPart2087597.t8U6J7WO62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 14 March 2007 15:00, Gary Kline said: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:07:43PM +0100, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > > Gary Kline schrieb: > > > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading > > > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by > > > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting > > > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a > > > relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale > > > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling > > > ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any > > > dependencies. > > > > > > Why is this a bad idea! > > > > > > gary > > > > The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g. > > which version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you > > have used, what options the port you built it. Some of these > > applies to packages as well, that's why I prefer ports over > > packages at all. E.g. let's see lang/php5. It does not have the > > apache module enabled by default. If it were, then the problem > > comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the default now, but > > what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your apache > > version from package? The situtation has been already pretty > > complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine > > tuning, but you can use them if you don't have special needs. > > Binary diffs would be so complicated that I think this way we > > could really not follow. > > > > If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It > > has an option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it > > fetch packages instead of building from source. Nowadays, this > > network traffic should not be a real problem, I think. > > You've brought up a lot of things I didn't consider; this was > part of the reason for my post. It seems to me that there would > need to be some simple ground rules from the binary patches I'm > got in mind. The *default* CFLAGS in the port would match those > in the patch is one place to start. > > Obviously, this could get way out of hand very quickly. Two of > my slowest servers (one 400MHz, 192M RAM) were rebuilding parts > of the KDE suite; the new kdelib-3.5.6 [??] just finished and I > already scp'd it over to my more beefy platform. Once I've got > all my servers up to date, it may not be that hard to keep them > current. You're right that bandwidth isn't a problem--um, in > most places {{ clearing my throat! }}. Bandwidth isn't the main > issue. It's time. > > cheers! > > gary > > > Regards, > > Gabor This issue comes up about every six months. If you google the mailing=20 list you will find extensive discussion about why binary upgrades are=20 a bad idea. If you want to upgrade using packages only=20 use 'portupgrade -PP'. Bear in mind it takes the package build=20 cluster a couple of weeks to catch up. For security reasons we=20 (maintainers) don't build packages and building binaries for every=20 possible configuration would place an extreme load on the build=20 cluster (not to mention the space required to host them all). Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - beech@alaskaparadise.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart2087597.t8U6J7WO62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBF+Itpp5D0B1NlT4URAo9XAJ9uGWTwwvNzU+s/xeRyOfQp2eaUuACePNMz yNe65Aw1dxvlgsB/i+KIH8w= =mqtc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2087597.t8U6J7WO62-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 00:00:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A6F16A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B740113C46C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so386619ana for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:00:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XgwvQVn4mKG83mLpp5EUN4rYbqzDkbr2U2CP/eRr/c13YRKGon+ca+VLEMvlfgxZMhBCKvl9HRQPLN0qwgLYMgehBjSMnvHkaQm8y/Ss8/zvrNrOGDMAvev82nLu+BUYaFYOXO60MC1YiLOsrmWA5arrll4xfVmNtEh4vuE5DTc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VDTldHjBoxs2gvzD4B7Z8RLp0A08C600xGxlADsXaxtA60mg4aORnn3793c5bqQs1bjbgAAVAM5L5erU59vPpvMAam14/mvZ4Q4dbCamOYPHAtbovkiG8ksCT8LXrX4DQM745UaZPtDaGBVQTq3iXND1uJEtx5ec9roV51rD4xQ= Received: by 10.100.112.19 with SMTP id k19mr2591277anc.1173916824048; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.142.13 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <87f7f4170703141700r25b26014l594e71c7bc40c013@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:00:24 -0400 From: "Jeremy Gransden" To: "Roger Scow" In-Reply-To: <73B70035-8432-45A9-A5BE-FBB083C21C94@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <73B70035-8432-45A9-A5BE-FBB083C21C94@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Have screwed up my longin and password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:00:25 -0000 On 3/14/07, Roger Scow wrote: > > I am totally new to FreeBSD, and have installed it and Gnome2/X11. > Somewhere in the process I have either corrupted or lost my password > and user name access. When I try to log into Gnome, either as root > or as username, it is a no go. > > I know that I set up myself as a user, and set a root password when I > was installing. > > What do I do now? Can I restart from the install CD and go back into > Sysinstall? > > I'm running FreeBSD 6.2 on a Macbook Pro, via Parallels Desktop. > > Thanks very much and sorry for such a stupid predicament. > > Roger > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > try these instructions http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW also see this for changing your other passwords http://freebsd.active-venture.com/handbook/users-modifying.html especially section 8.6.4 example 8-7 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 00:01:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E5E16A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdgrills@the-grills.com) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.200.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FBB13C455 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdgrills@the-grills.com) Received: from srv2.the-grills.com (c-68-60-243-64.hsd1.il.comcast.net[68.60.243.64]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2007031500015101100dbhp5e>; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:01:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 87587 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Mar 2007 00:01:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:01:31 -0500 From: "Kelly D. Grills" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070315000131.GA87552@the-grills.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <73B70035-8432-45A9-A5BE-FBB083C21C94@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <73B70035-8432-45A9-A5BE-FBB083C21C94@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/6.2-RELEASE (i386) X-PGP-Key: mailto:kdgrills-pgpkey@the-grills.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Subject: Re: Have screwed up my longin and password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:01:53 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 03:21:04PM -0500, Roger Scow wrote: >=20 > I am totally new to FreeBSD, and have installed it and Gnome2/X11. =20 > Somewhere in the process I have either corrupted or lost my password =20 > and user name access. When I try to log into Gnome, either as root =20 > or as username, it is a no go. >=20 > I know that I set up myself as a user, and set a root password when I =20 > was installing. >=20 > What do I do now? Can I restart from the install CD and go back into =20 > Sysinstall? >=20 You're not the first, see: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT= -PW --=20 Kelly D. Grills kdgrills@the-grills.com --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: PGP key: mailto:kdgrills-pgpkey@the-grills.com iD8DBQFF+Izb7inS5LzF7HMRAn2tAJ9RgsXwWExXUvkm4gZeGhcFcOOhSACfe2lH 0I8GpO2X5tVYnuIt3pafCyE= =Bjo6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 00:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9B016A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.lists@fsck.ch) Received: from secure.socket.ch (secure.socket.ch [212.103.70.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C9113C448 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.lists@fsck.ch) Received: from 84-73-229-8.dclient.hispeed.ch ([84.73.229.8] helo=[192.168.1.6]) by secure.socket.ch with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HRd8x-00065T-C7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:44:33 +0100 Message-ID: <45F888DE.6030108@fsck.ch> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:44:30 +0100 From: Tobias Roth User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070204) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "secure.socket.ch", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi I tried connecting my Ipod Nano 8GB via USB to my -STABLE box. No umass or ugen device shows up, nothing happens when I connect it. All the USB stuff is in the kernel, other usb mass devices (cameras, usb sticks) work like a charm. I tried with GENERIC as well, nothing. Is there a trick, some setting on the Ipod maybe, to make it act like a disk drive? [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys: policy says domain signs some mails -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 84.73.229.8 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: freebsd.lists@fsck.ch X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on secure.socket.ch); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Ipod Nano doesn't connect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:11:55 -0000 Hi I tried connecting my Ipod Nano 8GB via USB to my -STABLE box. No umass or ugen device shows up, nothing happens when I connect it. All the USB stuff is in the kernel, other usb mass devices (cameras, usb sticks) work like a charm. I tried with GENERIC as well, nothing. Is there a trick, some setting on the Ipod maybe, to make it act like a disk drive? Thanks, Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 00:21:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43BD16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D91013C45D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so112834ugh for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:21:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=Cj/XeD97NpBvcDZ93Me5P9U38IBGrDGHh5bN0jj9tQvyRujBX2IIkkVVtcHlPewlinGA9oJHn9+2p/REQ8gi3n9LU8UJO2BSwEcp+fvpBP6kwn0EMrumVA/b7hjeqm4kEk1OAld8QEknkuNIDJVXn8CZT3rtwVTXXYFj8leuZT8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=JVGDFWNdWcakPLWL4Q3Kh0HGTD9RG05fRZWttr3kNkcPBGbQxmhZSg79yFaN5miK7ADwv2Kq0gupPDCu/Z98hTBLvYA9Rrj3tRIMlsnirFROyuVPlYH1j8N3Fz++fZH7HfLbR/Q9VjWQ2PsQna/e4LwSZmMerapBIJB0sETh/mI= Received: by 10.78.149.15 with SMTP id w15mr9511hud.1173918107704; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90703141721r2dd56869k9bf566c4f5064a57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:21:47 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7e7f38af549a8124 Subject: moving binary port as installed from one system to another (openoffice.org-2 amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:21:53 -0000 No idea why there isn't an openoffice pkg yet for 6.2/amd64, but some of us are running that on laptops, not servers, and we like to do things like edit documents. Broke down and built the port, which took about 24 hours (after I found & installed all dependent packages [built dependencies for a couple days before that]), but it went well and functions. I'd really like to skip doing that on my other system, however. So, is there a standard description of what files, folders, etc, make up a package, other than the makefile, such that I can copy openoffice to my other machine(s)? For that matter, is there a standardized way to build a pkg from a port, or is that entirely up to the port maintainer? See where I'm headed? Or am I hopelessly naive? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 00:28:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6980016A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.lists@fsck.ch) Received: from secure.socket.ch (secure.socket.ch [212.103.70.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D1313C46E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.lists@fsck.ch) Received: from 84-73-229-8.dclient.hispeed.ch ([84.73.229.8] helo=[192.168.1.6]) by secure.socket.ch with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HRdpj-00069o-Du for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:28:46 +0100 Message-ID: <45F8933A.5040807@fsck.ch> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:28:42 +0100 From: Tobias Roth User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070204) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45F888DE.6030108@fsck.ch> In-Reply-To: <45F888DE.6030108@fsck.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "secure.socket.ch", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Tobias Roth wrote: > Hi > > I tried connecting my Ipod Nano 8GB via USB to my -STABLE box. No umass > or ugen device shows up, nothing happens when I connect it. All the USB > stuff is in the kernel, other usb mass devices (cameras, usb sticks) > work like a charm. I tried with GENERIC as well, nothing. Is there a > trick, some setting on the Ipod maybe, to make it act like a disk drive? [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys: policy says domain signs some mails -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 84.73.229.8 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: freebsd.lists@fsck.ch X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on secure.socket.ch); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: Ipod Nano doesn't connect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:28:47 -0000 Tobias Roth wrote: > Hi > > I tried connecting my Ipod Nano 8GB via USB to my -STABLE box. No umass > or ugen device shows up, nothing happens when I connect it. All the USB > stuff is in the kernel, other usb mass devices (cameras, usb sticks) > work like a charm. I tried with GENERIC as well, nothing. Is there a > trick, some setting on the Ipod maybe, to make it act like a disk drive? I figured it out after I connected the Ipod to a windows system, where it previously had worked. The same nothingness. So it had to be the Ipod, not FreeBSD. A reset on the Ipod solved the problem. The reset is done by simultaneously pressing the menu and the select (the middle) button and holding them for a few seconds. The same technique also saved me when the Ipod hung completely one time. Cheers, Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 00:51:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2AB16A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (7-137-58-66.gci.net [66.58.137.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DB613C45A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:51:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86E67DEC for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:50:59 -0800 (AKDT) Resent-From: Beech Rintoul Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:50:57 -0900 Resent-Message-ID: <200703141650.57817.beech@alaskaparadise.com> From: Beech Rintoul Organization: FreeBSD Port Maintainer To: "Steve Franks" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:45:00 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <539c60b90703141721r2dd56869k9bf566c4f5064a57@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703141721r2dd56869k9bf566c4f5064a57@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart6384388.IHkdLheU39"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200703141645.17654.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: Subject: Re: moving binary port as installed from one system to another (openoffice.org-2 amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beech@alaskaparadise.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:51:01 -0000 --nextPart6384388.IHkdLheU39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 14 March 2007 16:21, Steve Franks said: > No idea why there isn't an openoffice pkg yet for 6.2/amd64, but > some of us are running that on laptops, not servers, and we like to > do things like edit documents. > > Broke down and built the port, which took about 24 hours (after I > found & installed all dependent packages [built dependencies for a > couple days before that]), but it went well and functions. I'd > really like to skip doing that on my other system, however. > > So, is there a standard description of what files, folders, etc, > make up a package, other than the makefile, such that I can copy > openoffice to my other machine(s)? > > For that matter, is there a standardized way to build a pkg from a > port, or is that entirely up to the port maintainer? > > See where I'm headed? Or am I hopelessly naive? > > Steve You can use 'make package' from the port directory you want to=20 package. That will build a package from the port with the options you=20 selected and put it in /usr/ports/packages/All/your_package.tgz. You=20 can then copy and install it on another machine with 'pkg_add'. Cheers, Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - beech@alaskaparadise.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart6384388.IHkdLheU39 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBF+JcQp5D0B1NlT4URAmhfAJ4vwkO4B+t384qBrU+z+17WOVnp0wCfYZoX oox2aLExEXslnhWfyf9D9yw= =2axq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6384388.IHkdLheU39-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 01:16:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CB516A41A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE49413C4BF for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2F1GpCd013283 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:16:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2F1GpBw013282 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:16:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:16:51 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20070315011651.GA1524@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:16:46 -0000 Two quick one for kernel and/or compiler wizards: first, is a 400Mz processor considered a 586 (for my KERNELCONF file)? Second, is it safe to do a buildworld with -O3? If there are stability concerns, I'll go with the default when I rebuild my 6.2 systems. thanks in advance, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 01:37:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AFF16A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6B213C459 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl) Received: from webmail.xs4all.nl (dovemail7.xs4all.nl [194.109.26.9]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2F1bO97022128; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:37:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl) Received: from 82.93.23.199 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tournoij) by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:37:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <7174.82.93.23.199.1173922645.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20070315011651.GA1524@thought.org> References: <20070315011651.GA1524@thought.org> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:37:25 +0100 (CET) From: "Martin Tournoij" To: "Gary Kline" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: carpetsmoker@xs4all.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:37:27 -0000 On Thu, March 15, 2007 02:16, Gary Kline wrote: > > Two quick one for kernel and/or compiler wizards: first, is > a 400Mz processor considered a 586 (for my KERNELCONF file)? To check: dmesg | grep CPU Two examples (first one is a i686 and second one a i586) CPU: Intel Celeron (902.05-MHz 686-class CPU) CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (300.68-MHz 586-class CPU) > Second, is it safe to do a buildworld with -O3? If there are > stability concerns, I'll go with the default when I rebuild my > 6.2 systems. from /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf : # CFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C code. # Note that optimization settings other than -O and -O2 are not recommended # or supported for compiling the world or the kernel - please revert any # nonstandard optimization settings to "-O" or -O2 before submitting bug # reports without patches to the developers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 01:44:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9E416A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1B413C44B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00011F8709 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:44:22 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: TIt+CDAKiVsDnF9Ph0j91FpuJhc0DZ3x9UZyQ7I/yO5L 1173923063 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3DC2A8BA for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:44:23 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <682271DA-A9C3-48E0-A18E-8546A7725864@goldmark.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: questions@freebsd.org From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:44:21 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Subject: CPUTYPE for VIA EPIA M-Series Mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:44:23 -0000 I have one of these CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah (999.52-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x691 Stepping = 1 Features=0x380b035 http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp? motherboard_id=81 And 6.2-RELEASE p2 When I set CPUTYPE=c3 in /etc/make.conf the world seemed to build just fine, but (at least) gcc ended up broken. Most compiling attempts after that ended up with gcc reporting an internal error. Now that I've entered the FreeBSD world and am building everything from source, I would like to take advantage of that by compiling for my system. Does anyone have a similar system? And what CPUTYPE or local tuning do you recommend? A dmesg for the system is available at http://ntp0.goldmark.org/temp/dmesg Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 01:48:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D0716A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D1613C457 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so137287ugh for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:48:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=TiZvfBgEVl+wli8yA6jjwQRtTTaEPXdrNsVbuV0bksuKx2PZ1EmU3guX1YMerxlrpb8oBiKA4M47O9FcW9vU46kRpn5UHxmiZy9SO/gHlNEW5HUTM6qsqatxePVc6UZrwzXsKUYETyD+WczNIBSu5C7NC8B7T1MLuGQURREXMYo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=ta6RRO6OQfFh2H0QSApSk+On852K0G1Sze0Dh7qB3u94F7vzU5dKda3ySktOyVfUTRAaeaoxiHON7Ggv1SjQklTLfJNuk9oW49xv8xILMH6HXfXFzOTtPh2fLDwU/7YH1+2Iw60RwKCx26aFsX1nNX63S7m+12xFLdc8/laK+7A= Received: by 10.67.22.14 with SMTP id z14mr1978336ugi.1173923286031; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from persephone.orchid.homeunix.org ( [84.10.174.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k28sm1603182ugd.2007.03.14.18.48.05; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45F8A5BE.20704@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:47:42 +0100 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20070315011651.GA1524@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070315011651.GA1524@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.3.0 OpenPGP: id=06E09309; url=http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC2D711D706CAB3D6A10F0EF7" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: karol.kwiat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:48:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC2D711D706CAB3D6A10F0EF7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Kline wrote: > Two quick one for kernel and/or compiler wizards: first, is > a 400Mz processor considered a 586 (for my KERNELCONF file)? That depends on processor architecture rather than clock frequency. Have a look at dmesg output - for example, Intel Celeron 400Mhz is a 686 class processor (I686_CPU in the kernel configuration file): % dmesg % [...] % CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU) % [...] > Second, is it safe to do a buildworld with -O3? If there are > stability concerns, I'll go with the default when I rebuild my > 6.2 systems. If you're going to do stability/performance/compatibility tests go ahead. In any other situation just stick with the defaults, which on 6.2-RELEASE for my Celeron are: # (cd /usr/src && make -V CFLAGS ) -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=3Dpentiumpro Note that '-march=3Dpentiumpro' comes from setting 'CPUTYPE=3Di686' in /etc/make.conf (examples in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf). HTH, Karol --=20 Karol Kwiatkowski OpenPGP 0x06E09309 --------------enigC2D711D706CAB3D6A10F0EF7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+KXGezeoPAwGIYsRCMfbAKCqzt9ptH6LWvu4yc3YrCRwSKl86wCgl2PN mkDWllebiYTciqKLLMmo5LM= =bSsW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC2D711D706CAB3D6A10F0EF7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 01:57:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB9216A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBE613C455 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.146.188] (port=42920 helo=smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HRfDc-0003ac-1x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:57:28 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.214.242]:53124 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HRfDZ-0003qI-4Y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:57:25 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:57:14 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <45F81DCF.6050309@FreeBSD.org> <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703150257.14374.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:57:29 -0000 On Thursday 15 March 2007 00:00, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:07:43PM +0100, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > > Gary Kline schrieb: > > > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading > > > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by > > > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting > > > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a > > > relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale > > > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling > > > ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any > > > dependencies. > > > > > > Why is this a bad idea! I don't think it's a bad idea at all, but impractical > > > > > > gary > > > > The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g. which > > version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you have used, > > what options the port you built it. Some of these applies to packages as > > well, that's why I prefer ports over packages at all. E.g. let's see > > lang/php5. It does not have the apache module enabled by default. If it > > were, then the problem comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the > > default now, but what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your > > apache version from package? The situtation has been already pretty > > complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine tuning, but > > you can use them if you don't have special needs. Binary diffs would be > > so complicated that I think this way we could really not follow. Yes, seperate binpatches for every port option or build setting. And for any differently configured dependency! And those would have to be all checksummed also. Preferably from a seperate reliable source. So it quickly gets much much bigger and complicated than a source-only approach. Which is complicated enough as it stands :) > > If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It has an > > option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it fetch packages > > instead of building from source. Nowadays, this network traffic should > > not be a real problem, I think. > > You've brought up a lot of things I didn't consider; this was > part of the reason for my post. It seems to me that there would > need to be some simple ground rules from the binary patches I'm > got in mind. The *default* CFLAGS in the port would match those > in the patch is one place to start. But you only had an example with one single binary. Not many useful apps installs one single binary. And then there's a multitude of libs (which of course depend on other libs) > Obviously, this could get way out of hand very quickly. Two of Yes, after two iterations or so. IOW: instantly. > my slowest servers (one 400MHz, 192M RAM) were rebuilding parts > of the KDE suite; the new kdelib-3.5.6 [??] just finished and I > already scp'd it over to my more beefy platform. Once I've got > all my servers up to date, it may not be that hard to keep them > current. You're right that bandwidth isn't a problem--um, in > most places {{ clearing my throat! }}. Bandwidth isn't the main > issue. It's time. > > cheers! Also, it frequently happens that when upgrading a large project (say Gnome) you pretty much have to remove the old-install the new anyway. As others said as well, it's a nice idea if you have unlimited manpower, but practically speaking it's a maintenance nightmare much more than a source approach is. Cheers, Dan > gary > > > Regards, > > Gabor > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 02:02:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D23C16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net (eastrmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.240.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3339913C45A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id <20070315013036.IYWD460.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:30:36 -0400 Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id apWa1W00f2zbV0s0000000; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:30:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:30:35 -0500 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070315013034.GA12988@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Need a good Unix script that.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:02:35 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:56:26AM -0400, bstitt@tsys.com wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to write a script to delete all line that include a certain > pattern in an output file. I sending information to one of our Security > people and they take this data and create a spreadsheet on the > information, I have a constant reoccurring lines within the output file > that they do not need. I'm trying to use the sed command to remove lines > that fits a certain pattern but it does not appear to remove anything. It can probably be done with sed, but without knowing the specifics of what you're doing, no one can give a meaningful opinion. I use sed, grep, and awk all the time, but I can't tell you anything without seeing your sed statement and a sample file. I'd recommend posting to a forum where sed is a frequent topic and giving enough information to allow someone to actually help you. Someone somewhere maintains a sed FAQ along with a file of 100 sed statements giving examples of various tasks. I can't remember the URL, but googling will probably bring it up. Bob Hall From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 02:19:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBD916A406 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11F113C45B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2F2JHK5066370; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:19:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2F2JHju066369; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:19:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:19:17 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Roger Scow Message-ID: <20070315021917.GA66349@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <73B70035-8432-45A9-A5BE-FBB083C21C94@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <73B70035-8432-45A9-A5BE-FBB083C21C94@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Have screwed up my longin and password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:19:41 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 03:21:04PM -0500, Roger Scow wrote: > I am totally new to FreeBSD, and have installed it and Gnome2/X11. > Somewhere in the process I have either corrupted or lost my password > and user name access. When I try to log into Gnome, either as root > or as username, it is a no go. > > I know that I set up myself as a user, and set a root password when I > was installing. > > What do I do now? Can I restart from the install CD and go back into > Sysinstall? > > I'm running FreeBSD 6.2 on a Macbook Pro, via Parallels Desktop. > > Thanks very much and sorry for such a stupid predicament. This has a FAQ on it. Basically it consistst of learning to boot to single user, fsck and mount the file systems Then, just set the root password and any others you need to fix and then fix files that mst be cleaned up before reboot. Then reboot. ////jerry > > Roger > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 02:37:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A4816A405 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1CD13C465 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=39449 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HRiZJ-0002eA-9v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:32:05 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.214.242]:56731 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HRfPF-0005zA-PH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:09:29 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:13:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> <200703141555.36585.beech@alaskaparadise.com> In-Reply-To: <200703141555.36585.beech@alaskaparadise.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703150313.31857.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:37:25 -0000 On Thursday 15 March 2007 00:55, Beech Rintoul wrote: > This issue comes up about every six months. If you google the mailing > list you will find extensive discussion about why binary upgrades are > a bad idea. If you want to upgrade using packages only > use 'portupgrade -PP'. Bear in mind it takes the package build > cluster a couple of weeks to catch up. For security reasons we > (maintainers) don't build packages and building binaries for every That's not (mainly) for security reasons, it's for QA reasons (as in: does your port survive a pointyhat run when in some cases there may even be trouble caused by a dependent package not yours but you may have to deal with it anyway). That's the main reason for building (and deinstalling) them in a known environment as the build cluster does. I do usually make available a (i386) package on my site when I PR a port but I expect that people who use them know that they're using a stop-gap solution (while the port isn't committed yet) or perhaps an get outdated package or one that differs in any way from the "official" one that goes on the FreeBSD CD and FTP mirrors. In other words I don't do package QA, while the build cluster and the FreeBSD pkg people do. But it's not a security thing I think. > possible configuration would place an extreme load on the build > cluster (not to mention the space required to host them all). I suspect that the build cluster is waiting for user input after failed builds mostly ;-) Not building packages for every possible port config is probably more a people limit than a CPU/RAM horsepower limit. Some poor soul is going to have to report and/or fix it when it breaks after all... Cheers, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 02:39:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1563D16A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD2513C458 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=49740 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HRigo-000330-Qt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:39:50 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.214.242]:50165 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HRfWl-0006rv-Qo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:17:15 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:21:17 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070315011651.GA1524@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070315011651.GA1524@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703150321.18033.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:39:10 -0000 On Thursday 15 March 2007 02:16, Gary Kline wrote: > Two quick one for kernel and/or compiler wizards: first, is > a 400Mz processor considered a 586 (for my KERNELCONF file)? Think its 686 (but really, leaving 486 and 586 in isn't going to slow down booting or anything!) I always say: Use GENERIC unless you have a good reason not to. > Second, is it safe to do a buildworld with -O3? If there are No. It's not supported if things break. > stability concerns, I'll go with the default when I rebuild my > 6.2 systems. The defaults should be fine. Also, like I said consider just using GENERIC and load the odd kmod if needed. Generally it's less headache and equal performance. > thanks in advance, > > gary Cheers, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 02:48:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4C316A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013A913C45D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=48765 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HRj6t-0005Kn-P3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:06:47 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.214.242]:55544 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HRfwp-0001sw-61 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:44:11 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:48:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <200703141555.36585.beech@alaskaparadise.com> <200703150313.31857.danny@ricin.com> In-Reply-To: <200703150313.31857.danny@ricin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703150348.13437.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:48:28 -0000 On Thursday 15 March 2007 03:13, Danny Pansters wrote: > I suspect that the build cluster is waiting for user input after failed > builds mostly ;-) Before I get spanked for this, I know it's automated, what I meant to say is that the build time only isn't the only time it all takes to get things to work together. That humans are involved etc. Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 03:19:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C1C16A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1467013C44B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn03.u.washington.edu (hymn03.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.169]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2F3JnOW006621 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:19:49 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn03.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2F3JnTB014427 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:19:49 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [67.187.172.183] by hymn03.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:19:49 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:19:49 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200703150321.18033.danny@ricin.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.14.200433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:19:50 -0000 On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Danny Pansters wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 02:16, Gary Kline wrote: >> Two quick one for kernel and/or compiler wizards: first, is >> a 400Mz processor considered a 586 (for my KERNELCONF file)? > > Think its 686 (but really, leaving 486 and 586 in isn't going to slow down > booting or anything!) I always say: Use GENERIC unless you have a good reason > not to. > >> Second, is it safe to do a buildworld with -O3? If there are > > No. It's not supported if things break. > >> stability concerns, I'll go with the default when I rebuild my >> 6.2 systems. > > The defaults should be fine. Also, like I said consider just using GENERIC and > load the odd kmod if needed. Generally it's less headache and equal > performance. > >> thanks in advance, >> >> gary > > Cheers, > > Dan As Dan and Gary said -O3 isn't supported, and in many cases that "level of optimization" gets filtered out while compiling sections of FreeBSD. Besides, I've compiled stuff with -O3 and various optimizations in Gentoo Linux before, and let me say that it caused a great deal of headaches... that's why I stick with -O2 now, because it's better to have something in executable shape and a bit slower (arguably because some optimizations slow things down) than it is to have something run fast and break all the time. Some food for thought :). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 03:21:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C24116A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E655F13C44C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l2F3Lomr050689 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:21:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200703150321.l2F3Lomr050689@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <50684.1173928910.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:21:50 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Sendmail on a new Freebsd6.2 Won't Send or Receive. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:21:52 -0000 I have just set up a new freeBSD6.2 system which should be fully capable of sending and receiving mail via sendmail. The processes are all running. It acts like inetd.conf has the ports closed, but there aren't any specifically for smtp. /etc/services has smtp ports listed and all open like they should be. If you telnet to port 25 either from another system or from the localhost, the "connection refused" message is immediate and no log entries in maillog are generated. The only entries being generated at all are routine messages when the queue starts and messages that say that a given message is deferred due to not being able to be delivered so it appears to be stuck both directions. Any suggestions on what else to look at? Thank you. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 03:23:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E487816A40D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C655513C483 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn03.u.washington.edu (hymn03.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.169]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2F3NIpV021264 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:23:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn03.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2F3NIIC016980 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:23:18 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [67.187.172.183] by hymn03.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:23:18 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:23:18 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200703150321.18033.danny@ricin.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.14.200935 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:23:19 -0000 On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Danny Pansters wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 02:16, Gary Kline wrote: >> Two quick one for kernel and/or compiler wizards: first, is >> a 400Mz processor considered a 586 (for my KERNELCONF file)? > > Think its 686 (but really, leaving 486 and 586 in isn't going to slow down > booting or anything!) I always say: Use GENERIC unless you have a good reason > not to. > >> Second, is it safe to do a buildworld with -O3? If there are > > No. It's not supported if things break. > >> stability concerns, I'll go with the default when I rebuild my >> 6.2 systems. > > The defaults should be fine. Also, like I said consider just using GENERIC and > load the odd kmod if needed. Generally it's less headache and equal > performance. > >> thanks in advance, >> >> gary > > Cheers, > > Dan Dan, I know that this has been discussed a few times before, but IMO running a slightly stripped down kernel (i.e. custom, not GENERIC) actually proves to be helpful in increasing boot times (if options were added statically) and compile times if [(# of options added) < (# of options in GENERIC)]. I like being able to compile my kernel on my P4 in less than 10 minutes anyhow with less options :). The only thing that was brought up earlier (sometime later last year in a thread--I think either Oct or Nov) is that removing options removes flexibility as well. But that's a tradeoff you have to make. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 03:44:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from misaki (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CAA816A402; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ariff@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:44:03 +0800 From: Ariff Abdullah To: freenity Message-Id: <20070315114403.63b2b7ba.ariff@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <1455a3d90703141612k50850957n75957e66f92d03af@mail.gmail.com> References: <1455a3d90703141418ldcfb33al5411eed4c3a8b71a@mail.gmail.com> <200703142316.18842.pieter@degoeje.nl> <1455a3d90703141556g1c4a0bbbvc18672bcfb2a4973@mail.gmail.com> <660DD7E4-AEBB-4451-A262-AAF3707A0C2C@mac.com> <1455a3d90703141612k50850957n75957e66f92d03af@mail.gmail.com> Organization: FreeBSD X-Mailer: /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/net/smtp.rb Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__15_Mar_2007_11_44_03_+0800_LU8=eygFtOHuZFb=" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:44:14 -0000 --Signature=_Thu__15_Mar_2007_11_44_03_+0800_LU8=eygFtOHuZFb= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:12:35 -0300 freenity wrote: > yes multimedia worked. output: >=20 >=20 > $ pciconf -vl | grep -iB 4 multimedia > class =3D bridge > subclass =3D PCI-PCI > none11@pci0:16:1: class=3D0x040300 card=3D0xcb8410de > chip=3D0x026c10de rev=3D0xa2 hdr=3D0x00 > vendor =3D 'NVIDIA Corporation' > class =3D multimedia > $ >=20 This require snd_hda , not snd_ich. http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/lowlatency/sndkld_releng6_amd64_lowlatency= .tar.gz -- Ariff Abdullah FreeBSD ... Recording in stereo is obviously too advanced and confusing for us idiot ***** users :P ........ --Signature=_Thu__15_Mar_2007_11_44_03_+0800_LU8=eygFtOHuZFb= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF+MEDlr+deMUwTNoRAun5AKCUssppy6aAWzxp2XRmas6Xow7zOwCgzBhQ LVB9snCFZFV4KZQurCJuU+Q= =Xz2s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__15_Mar_2007_11_44_03_+0800_LU8=eygFtOHuZFb=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 03:55:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600B116A406 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1433013C45B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so21938ana for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:55:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PVV+m8jAeU/O5EMR/VqPQ50f51YZ6uZ1V6ZqioARXIKlr3ok9gxsVAFlS6ki+/4GM14dM18OIe4rtTCZUS0gevmHMl4cZ3Ut0zsazutXv7qXg7IDFfaU6y66wjsv+FqNQWbDVO+9s3m5H7yvhZPSl+uEkwRlhVSM65NlW3GxBQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=KyycpK9t18mgbQM7Naif76xksRgCsW0sKqa8m3cPWqD7y0I1pX5YGzd+VbuTBMScaWaxkYce4VAHdT+gKbg/MH5oK9a2i808pDw9hQSeUIJv1mMq0kSOjCJNnK0OJR3cEchsMJDjFrRFKtnUn22a0UfA/Aq+4AZNZYkt9okgADQ= Received: by 10.114.197.1 with SMTP id u1mr53210waf.1173930925007; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.148.18 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0703142055x5a75ca67p2a87db4b773f2878@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:55:24 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Memory leak and deep swap upon the restart? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:55:26 -0000 Hello, I have a webmail server, has apache 2.2.4, mysql 5.0.33, php 5.2.1, clamav, mailscanner ..etc. The weird issue it goes into deep swap when it starts or I restart it. *sigh* This happened since like 6 months I don't know why? it was okay before that. here is the top info last pid: 790; load averages: 0.00, 0.06, 0.05 up 0+00:06:50 03:51:28 69 processes: 1 running, 68 sleeping CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.6% idle Mem: 323M Active, 91M Inact, 56M Wired, 27M Cache, 52M Buf, 988K Free Swap: 2048M Total, 104M Used, 1944M Free, 5% Inuse Here is the ps -aux output mail# ps -aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 10 98.7 0.0 0 8 ?? RL 3:45AM 5:55.48 [idle] root 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? WLs 3:45AM 0:00.00 [swapper] root 1 0.0 0.0 820 140 ?? ILs 3:45AM 0:00.01 /sbin/init -- root 2 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.02 [g_event] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.22 [g_up] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.17 [g_down] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [thread taskq] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [kqueue taskq] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [acpi_task_0] root 8 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [acpi_task_1] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [acpi_task_2] root 11 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL 3:45AM 0:00.87 [swi4: clock] root 12 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [swi3: vm] root 13 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL 3:45AM 0:00.13 [swi1: net] root 14 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.06 [yarrow] root 15 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [swi6: Giant taskq] root 16 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [swi6: task queue] root 17 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [swi5: +] root 18 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [irq20: acpi0] root 19 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL 3:45AM 0:00.19 [irq22: fxp0] root 20 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL 3:45AM 0:00.11 [irq14: ata0] root 21 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [irq15: ata1] root 22 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [irq1: atkbd0] root 23 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:01.00 [pagedaemon] root 24 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.78 [vmdaemon] root 25 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.31 [pagezero] root 26 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [bufdaemon] root 27 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.00 [vnlru] root 28 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.03 [syncer] root 29 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.01 [softdepflush] root 30 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL 3:45AM 0:00.02 [schedcpu] root 92 0.0 0.0 1364 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 adjkerntz -i root 344 0.0 0.1 1496 440 ?? Ss 3:45AM 0:00.02 /usr/sbin/syslogd -ss -a /var/amavis/var/log vscan 449 0.0 0.7 45840 3520 ?? Ss 3:45AM 0:00.48 amavisd (master) (perl5.8.8) postgrey 468 0.0 0.0 8800 0 ?? IWs - 0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/postgrey --pidfile=/var/run/postgrey.pid --inet=10 root 474 0.0 10.9 61788 56864 ?? Ss 3:45AM 0:02.95 /usr/local/bin/spamd -c -Q -d -r /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid (perl5.8 vscan 482 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) vscan 483 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) vscan 484 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) vscan 485 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) vscan 486 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) vscan 487 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) vscan 488 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) vscan 489 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) root 633 0.0 0.1 2444 412 ?? Ss 3:45AM 0:00.01 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master postfix 644 0.0 0.1 2476 416 ?? S 3:45AM 0:00.01 pickup -l -t fifo -u postfix 645 0.0 0.1 2524 480 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.01 qmgr -l -t fifo -u root 646 0.0 0.7 61788 3428 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.01 spamd child (perl5.8.8) root 647 0.0 0.3 61788 1424 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.00 spamd child (perl5.8.8) postfix 649 0.0 0.2 18916 1180 ?? Is 3:45AM 0:00.01 MailScanner: master waiting for children, sleeping (perl5.8.8) postfix 650 0.0 0.5 79972 2464 ?? S 3:45AM 0:03.10 MailScanner: waiting for messages (perl5.8.8) nobody 658 0.0 0.3 4184 1484 ?? S 3:45AM 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/in.imapproxyd root 667 0.0 1.3 49788 6732 ?? Ss 3:45AM 0:00.18 /usr/local/sbin/httpd root 680 0.0 0.2 3328 1020 ?? Ss 3:45AM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 685 0.0 0.1 1500 584 ?? Is 3:45AM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/cron -s root 703 0.0 0.1 4380 312 ?? Ss 3:45AM 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/spamass-milter -p /var/run/spamass.sock -f -b spam www 742 0.0 0.0 49864 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/httpd www 763 0.0 1.3 50704 6980 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.02 /usr/local/sbin/httpd www 765 0.0 2.0 52184 10140 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.31 /usr/local/sbin/httpd www 766 0.0 0.7 49856 3476 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd www 767 0.0 0.7 49856 3476 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/httpd www 768 0.0 0.7 49856 3476 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd www 769 0.0 2.1 50836 10788 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.07 /usr/local/sbin/httpd www 770 0.0 2.3 50936 12172 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.21 /usr/local/sbin/httpd www 771 0.0 0.0 49816 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/httpd www 772 0.0 0.0 49816 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/httpd www 773 0.0 0.0 49816 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/httpd postfix 774 0.0 0.3 79972 1600 ?? S 3:45AM 0:03.05 MailScanner: waiting for messages (perl5.8.8) postfix 775 0.0 0.3 79972 1792 ?? S 3:45AM 0:03.05 MailScanner: waiting for messages (perl5.8.8) postfix 776 0.0 0.3 79972 1376 ?? S 3:45AM 0:03.05 MailScanner: waiting for messages (perl5.8.8) postfix 777 0.0 14.4 79972 74812 ?? S 3:45AM 0:03.15 MailScanner: waiting for messages (perl5.8.8) root 781 0.0 0.5 6076 2492 ?? Ss 3:51AM 0:00.03 sshd: arabian [priv] (sshd) arabian 783 0.0 0.5 6060 2568 ?? S 3:51AM 0:00.01 sshd: arabian@ttyp0 (sshd) root 734 0.0 0.0 1464 0 v0 IWs+ - 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv0 root 735 0.0 0.0 1464 0 v1 IWs+ - 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1 root 736 0.0 0.0 1464 0 v2 IWs+ - 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2 root 737 0.0 0.0 1464 0 v3 IWs+ - 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3 root 738 0.0 0.0 1464 0 v4 IWs+ - 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4 root 739 0.0 0.0 1464 0 v5 IWs+ - 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5 root 740 0.0 0.0 1464 0 v6 IWs+ - 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6 root 741 0.0 0.0 1464 0 v7 IWs+ - 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7 mysql 494 0.0 0.0 1864 0 con- IW - 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe --defaults-extra-file=/var/db/m mysql 518 0.0 3.7 51508 19184 con- I 3:45AM 0:00.23 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --defaults-extra-file=/var/db/mysql/my.c arabian 784 0.0 0.6 4984 2936 p0 Ss 3:51AM 0:00.02 -tcsh (tcsh) root 786 0.0 0.3 1872 1304 p0 S 3:51AM 0:00.01 su root 787 0.0 0.6 4992 2916 p0 S 3:51AM 0:00.02 _su (tcsh) root 791 0.0 0.2 1608 900 p0 R+ 3:51AM 0:00.00 ps -aux Any hints? -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 04:15:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AC116A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76A113C4AD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1FA1A4D80; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B6EBB514EE; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:15:43 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Message-ID: <20070315041543.GA57246@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <499c70c0703142055x5a75ca67p2a87db4b773f2878@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <499c70c0703142055x5a75ca67p2a87db4b773f2878@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Memory leak and deep swap upon the restart? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:15:45 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 06:55:24AM +0300, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > Hello, > > I have a webmail server, has apache 2.2.4, mysql 5.0.33, php 5.2.1, > clamav, mailscanner ..etc. > > The weird issue it goes into deep swap when it starts or I restart it. > *sigh* > This happened since like 6 months I don't know why? it was okay before that. Your running processes are trying to use more memory than is present in your system, so swapping is the only possibility. Look at the "VSZ" column (virtual size) to see how overloaded your system is. > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND > vscan 449 0.0 0.7 45840 3520 ?? Ss 3:45AM 0:00.48 > amavisd (master) (perl5.8.8) > root 474 0.0 10.9 61788 56864 ?? Ss 3:45AM 0:02.95 > /usr/local/bin/spamd -c -Q -d -r /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid (perl5.8 > vscan 482 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) > vscan 483 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) > vscan 484 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) > vscan 485 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) > vscan 486 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) > vscan 487 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) > vscan 488 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) > vscan 489 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) > root 646 0.0 0.7 61788 3428 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.01 spamd > child (perl5.8.8) > root 647 0.0 0.3 61788 1424 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.00 spamd > child (perl5.8.8) > postfix 649 0.0 0.2 18916 1180 ?? Is 3:45AM 0:00.01 > MailScanner: master waiting for children, sleeping (perl5.8.8) > postfix 650 0.0 0.5 79972 2464 ?? S 3:45AM 0:03.10 > MailScanner: waiting for messages (perl5.8.8) > root 667 0.0 1.3 49788 6732 ?? Ss 3:45AM 0:00.18 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > www 742 0.0 0.0 49864 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > www 763 0.0 1.3 50704 6980 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.02 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > www 765 0.0 2.0 52184 10140 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.31 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > www 766 0.0 0.7 49856 3476 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.01 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > www 767 0.0 0.7 49856 3476 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.00 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > www 768 0.0 0.7 49856 3476 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.01 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > www 769 0.0 2.1 50836 10788 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.07 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > www 770 0.0 2.3 50936 12172 ?? I 3:45AM 0:00.21 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > www 771 0.0 0.0 49816 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > www 772 0.0 0.0 49816 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > www 773 0.0 0.0 49816 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 > /usr/local/sbin/httpd > postfix 774 0.0 0.3 79972 1600 ?? S 3:45AM 0:03.05 > MailScanner: waiting for messages (perl5.8.8) > postfix 775 0.0 0.3 79972 1792 ?? S 3:45AM 0:03.05 > MailScanner: waiting for messages (perl5.8.8) > postfix 776 0.0 0.3 79972 1376 ?? S 3:45AM 0:03.05 > MailScanner: waiting for messages (perl5.8.8) > postfix 777 0.0 14.4 79972 74812 ?? S 3:45AM 0:03.15 > MailScanner: waiting for messages (perl5.8.8) > mysql 518 0.0 3.7 51508 19184 con- I 3:45AM 0:00.23 > /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --defaults-extra-file=/var/db/mysql/my.c Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 04:25:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBCC16A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DADB13C45E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from [172.24.145.69] (endor.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.69]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521D05CB1; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45F8CABD.6020902@vindaloo.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:25:33 -0400 From: Christopher Hilton User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <20070311200829.31802.qmail@simone.iecc.com> <0AC225E6-E55D-4C20-9A00-2EDD95985848@shire.net> <20070311165028.S44863@simone.iecc.com> <45F57936.3030601@usm.cl> <1173830431.1588.34.camel@dagobah.vindaloo.com> <30DC016D-CA46-44D1-A12D-00BDD723A71D@shire.net> <45F76C4B.5070905@vindaloo.com> <46E487EC-2AAF-4885-A19E-1D55034C2D4C@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <46E487EC-2AAF-4885-A19E-1D55034C2D4C@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: Tool for validating sender address as spam-fighting technique? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:25:35 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Mar 13, 2007, at 8:37 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >>>> Address verification callbacks take various forms, but the way exim >>>> does it by default is to attempt to start a DSN delivery to the >>>> address and if the RCPT TO is accepted it is affirmative. It is not >>>> usually use VRFY. Most address verification is done by attempting >>>> to start some sort of delivery to the address. >>> >>> I'm assuming that DSN is Delivery Service Notification >> >> yes >> >>> or return receipt. >> >> mp > > Most callback systems either try to do a DSN or they try to do a > delivery (SMTP RCPT TO) and then quit before sending a message body via > DATA; they do not depend on the SMTP VRFY command as that is commonly > blocked or configured to return a generic "I don't know whether the > address is valid". > >>> If it is or if it somehow relies on the ability to deliver a message >>> via smtp to *@example.com then I don't see how it prevents spam. >> >> If the mail says it is from chris@vindaloo.com but I cannot send a DSN >> to chris@vindaloo.com then the account is most likely bogus sender and >> is refused. It works wonders for spam. >> >> DSN has a specific definition -- look in the RFCs as I don't remember >> which RFC it is offhand. But you are supposed to always accept a DSN >> from <> as part of the RFCs > > Supporting bounce messages from <> was part of the original RFC-821/822 > specs. The fancier three-digit codes and canonical DSN format was > specified somewhat later, but I believe that the updated SMTP RFCs, > 2821/2822 include it. > > I just skimmed one of the RFC's to see how this works and it looks like there's some provision for relaying the answer to the right server. I think I misunderstood how it worked and made an incorrect assumption. I assumed that it would not be able to figure out that curry@vindaloo.com is not a valid address given that the worlds primary MX did not know the details of my internal addressing structure until I implemented greylisting last October. It looks like an interesting technique for validating email. I'll have to figure out if I can add it to the stack of things that I do for spam prevention. -- Chris -- __o "All I was doing was trying to get home from work." _`\<,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*)___________________________________________________________ Christopher Sean Hilton pgp key: D0957A2D/f5 30 0a e1 55 76 9b 1f 47 0b 07 e9 75 0e 14 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 04:47:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9601C16A405; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153B713C4BC; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2F4lA1P062147; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:47:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2F4kXUs062142; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:46:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:46:30 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Beech Rintoul Message-ID: <20070315044630.GB62026@thought.org> References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <45F81DCF.6050309@FreeBSD.org> <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> <200703141555.36585.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703141555.36585.beech@alaskaparadise.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:47:35 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 02:55:15PM -0900, Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Wednesday 14 March 2007 15:00, Gary Kline said: > > > This issue comes up about every six months. If you google the mailing > list you will find extensive discussion about why binary upgrades are > a bad idea. Well, certainly not upgrading the "world" and kernel.... > If you want to upgrade using packages only > use 'portupgrade -PP'. Bear in mind it takes the package build > cluster a couple of weeks to catch up. For security reasons we > (maintainers) don't build packages and building binaries for every > possible configuration would place an extreme load on the build > cluster (not to mention the space required to host them all). I'm willing to donate one 400Mhz Kayak; just sans memory or disk. Seriously, but I think the cluster needs much faster hardware. At any rate, I was thinking of inbetweener-patches; so that it would be possible to stay current between pkg-1.2.3_4 and pkg-1.2.3_5, say. This, only for the vanilla i386 packages. Still, given the variables of CPUTYPE and the possible/probably diffs in -Optimization and other CFLAGS variations, it's pretty clear that evn a vanilla patch would be overkill. With almost 17K ports, you guys have enough on your hands! gary > > Beech > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - beech@alaskaparadise.com > /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x > \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org > X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: > / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 05:04:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48F216A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFD713C487 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l2F54MFW071297; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:04:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <00ac01c766bf$3166b5f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Martin McCormick" References: <200703150321.l2F3Lomr050689@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:02:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: Re: Sendmail on a new Freebsd6.2 Won't Send or Receive. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:04:27 -0000 sendmail_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin McCormick" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Sendmail on a new Freebsd6.2 Won't Send or Receive. > I have just set up a new freeBSD6.2 system which should > be fully capable of sending and receiving mail via sendmail. > The processes are all running. It acts like inetd.conf has the > ports closed, but there aren't any specifically for smtp. > /etc/services has smtp ports listed and all open like they > should be. > > If you telnet to port 25 either from another system or > from the localhost, the "connection refused" message is > immediate and no log entries in maillog are generated. > > The only entries being generated at all are routine > messages when the queue starts and messages that say that a > given message is deferred due to not being able to be delivered > so it appears to be stuck both directions. > > Any suggestions on what else to look at? > > Thank you. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > Systems Engineer > OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 05:18:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FF216A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5666C13C469 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l2F5InRi071390; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <00c301c766c1$36276060$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Robert Eckardt" , References: <20070314215639.M99480@Robert-Eckardt.de> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:17:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: Re: Did I take the wrong bus with FreeBSD 6 to VMware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:18:51 -0000 Robert, You have device driver conflicts with the hardware. Most likely it is the ata driver and the rocket raid card. The rocket raids are nice cards but I have had them blow up too. In my case I simply moved the rocket raid card to a different system where it was rock solid, and put in a promise card that was blowing up in yet a third system. I have a whole collection of hardware to play with. Unfortunately that is what happens when you work with operating systems that wern't preloaded on the hardware you bought. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Eckardt" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: Did I take the wrong bus with FreeBSD 6 to VMware? > Hi, > > for some time I'm trying to get FreeBSD 6 running on my server > as a host for VMware and several other functions. > > I'm using a 1.7GHz Pentium M 735 on an AOpen i855GMEm-LFS mobo > w/ USB, VGA, 2xGbit/s, 2xPATA channels etc. on board. > I used to run FBSD-5.2.1 with vmware3 on an Epox mobo w/ a 2GHz > Celeron without problems. > After changing HW (mobo, CPU, HDD) and OS (FBSD6.0) I found the > system to "freeze" upon accessing an USB device when vmware was > running. > So my first investigations led to its driver, but in some cases > heavy disk I/O was sufficient to cause a freeze. > > Since the situation got worse with FreeBSD 6.2 I started to work > on it more systematically and found the following (actually I was > on the verge to switch to Linux CentOS 4.4 or OpenSUSE 10.2 with > VMware Server running nicely, but the HD and network performance > were disappointing): > > 1)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" disabled in BIOS, vmware3 started: > vmware3 runs fine, but no USB devices. > > 2)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, vmware3 started: > system "freezes" with network connections breaking, endless > messages > ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE taskqueue timeout - completing > request directly > ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE taskqueue timeout - completing > request directly > ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES ENABLE RCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing > request directly > ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES ENABLE WCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing > request directly > ad2: WARNING: - SET_MULTI taskq..... > ad2: FAILURE [or TIMEOUT] - WRITE:DMA timed out [or retrying] LBA=.... > g_vs_done():ad2s1e[WRITE(offset=...., length=....)]error = 5 > typing reboot will finally reboot the system after several hours, > nothing in the logs though. > > 3)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, additional PCI-VGA > card installed, using either PCI-VGA *or* on-board VGA, vmware3 > started: > vmware3 runs fine, also when accessing the USB device. > > 4)**ACPI on, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, additional PCI-VGA card > installed, using on-board VGA, vmware3 started: > system "freezes" with messages above. > > So, what's the relation between the scenarios? > Where can I tweak the system to get it stable? > > Since I spend already several man-days on getting VMware running > on my machine, I would like to help further debugging by making > additional tests, but I don't know where to start. > > I can live without ACPI (for the time being) -- the old system > consumes 125W while the Pentium M machine stays at 42W with ACPI > taking about another 8W in idle-state. > For me it seems essential why enabling/disabling USB in the BIOS > or adding an additional PCI-VGA card stabilizes the system and > why the unstable system behaves the same way like with enabling > ACPI. > > I put some boot_verbose-logs on http://www.robert-eckardt.de/ghost/ > > Regards, > Robert > > -- > Dr. Robert Eckardt --- Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 05:19:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAC616A407 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A90613C448 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2F5IwCN062301; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:19:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2F5InCf062296; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:18:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:18:30 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Danny Pansters Message-ID: <20070315051830.GC62026@thought.org> References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <45F81DCF.6050309@FreeBSD.org> <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> <200703150257.14374.danny@ricin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703150257.14374.danny@ricin.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:19:41 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 02:57:14AM +0100, Danny Pansters wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 00:00, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:07:43PM +0100, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > > > Gary Kline schrieb: > > > > Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading > > > > foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by > > > > downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting > > > > /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a > > > > relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale > > > > upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling > > > > ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any > > > > dependencies. > > > > > > > > Why is this a bad idea! > > I don't think it's a bad idea at all, but impractical > After this discussion, I can see the myriad facets; doable? yes, practical: no, sir. To implement the kind of blue-sky thing I had in mind is what's known as "the plausable impossible." Like a talking mouse who owns a dog and talks. > > > > > > > > gary > > > > > > The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g. which > > > version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you have used, > > > what options the port you built it. Some of these applies to packages as > > > well, that's why I prefer ports over packages at all. E.g. let's see > > > lang/php5. It does not have the apache module enabled by default. If it > > > were, then the problem comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the > > > default now, but what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your > > > apache version from package? The situtation has been already pretty > > > complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine tuning, but > > > you can use them if you don't have special needs. Binary diffs would be > > > so complicated that I think this way we could really not follow. > > Yes, seperate binpatches for every port option or build setting. And for any > differently configured dependency! And those would have to be all checksummed > also. Preferably from a seperate reliable source. So it quickly gets much > much bigger and complicated than a source-only approach. Which is complicated > enough as it stands :) > > > > If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It has an > > > option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it fetch packages > > > instead of building from source. Nowadays, this network traffic should > > > not be a real problem, I think. > > > > You've brought up a lot of things I didn't consider; this was > > part of the reason for my post. It seems to me that there would > > need to be some simple ground rules from the binary patches I'm > > got in mind. The *default* CFLAGS in the port would match those > > in the patch is one place to start. > > But you only had an example with one single binary. Not many useful apps > installs one single binary. And then there's a multitude of libs (which of > course depend on other libs) > > > Obviously, this could get way out of hand very quickly. Two of > > Yes, after two iterations or so. IOW: instantly. > Yup. :-) > > my slowest servers (one 400MHz, 192M RAM) were rebuilding parts > > of the KDE suite; the new kdelib-3.5.6 [??] just finished and I > > already scp'd it over to my more beefy platform. Once I've got > > all my servers up to date, it may not be that hard to keep them > > current. You're right that bandwidth isn't a problem--um, in > > most places {{ clearing my throat! }}. Bandwidth isn't the main > > issue. It's time. > > > > cheers! > > Also, it frequently happens that when upgrading a large project (say Gnome) > you pretty much have to remove the old-install the new anyway. Gawk! I'm going to have *nightmares* thinkng about Gnome! I'm overdue for buying a FBSD CD-ROM set when that happens.... > > As others said as well, it's a nice idea if you have unlimited manpower, but > practically speaking it's a maintenance nightmare much more than a source > approach is. > Well said. And until everybody is in the upper 0.5 percentile andor somebody donates $millions andor lots more of us get back into the hacking side of the Project, we'll just make do. I've appreciated all the (rational) input! gary > > Cheers, > > Dan > > > gary > > > > > Regards, > > > Gabor > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 05:30:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B84F16A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AD513C44B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l2F5UfDb071463; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <00da01c766c2$dfaffdd0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Ken Cochran" , References: <200703141501.l2EF1e2Z267703@shell01.TheWorld.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:29:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 & rel5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:30:45 -0000 here is my quick hack script to manually do this #!/bin/sh zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 echo If sun Mar 11 and Nov 1 then OK echo Otherwise stop script now and rerun from clean temp dir echo "also ls -l /etc |more and check that localtime is not a link" sleep 5 fetch ftp://sunrise.ipinc.net/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz tar -xzf tzdata2007c.tar.gz zic -d zoneinfo northamerica cp -R zoneinfo/* /usr/share/zoneinfo zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT | grep 2007 zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles | grep 2007 echo "if localtime is a link then stop and rm /etc/localtime then" echo "ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime" sleep 5 cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 echo If Sun Mar 11 and Nov 1 then OK echo "now rm -r this temp dir" $ I think the ln-s line is backwards, I didn't check it. I think it's been a while since they used softlinks for localtime Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cochran" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:01 AM Subject: Fixing DST manually on rel4 & rel5 > Hello -questions: > > This is most certanly a FAQ but I'm not yet finding the kind of > answer I need... > > I have a couple of old FreeBSD systems that I can't (yet) update > to the new Daylight Saving Time rules (based on the email message > that came out on -announce in late February). One is > 4.10-stable, last updated late November 2004 & the other is > 5.4-release. Cvsup brings /usr/src in order but I can't update > ports (yet) to get misc/zoneinfo and it doesn't look like I can > just "transfer" the /usr/share/zoneinfo bits over from /usr/src > without a {build,install}world (also impractical at this time). > > Best I can tell from the message that came from -announce sometime > back, the same fix(es) would apply to both the 4 & 5 branches. > > Is there a "proper" way to fix the timezone on these machines > "manually" pending the "real" change that will happen in the > system according to the previous rules/schedule? (e.g. Fix it > temporarily/manually but not clobber the original rules.) > > Or is there some way to install the new cvsup'ed zoneinfo bits > into an "old" system so I can run tzsetup and have everything > fixed "correctly?" I'm in US Central timezone and I've seen it > reported as CST6CDT (I guess that's in SysV). > > FAQ/doc/book pointers/references are welcome of course - I'm > still digging around in both the Handbook & Complete FreeBSD > and wherever else I can find... > > Many thanks, > > -kc > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 05:39:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848F616A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0593A13C43E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2F5dA39062409; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:39:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2F5d93n062408; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:39:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:39:09 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Karol Kwiatkowski Message-ID: <20070315053909.GD62026@thought.org> References: <20070315011651.GA1524@thought.org> <45F8A5BE.20704@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F8A5BE.20704@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:39:03 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 02:47:42AM +0100, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > Two quick one for kernel and/or compiler wizards: first, is > > a 400Mz processor considered a 586 (for my KERNELCONF file)? > > That depends on processor architecture rather than clock frequency. Have > a look at dmesg output - for example, Intel Celeron 400Mhz is a 686 > class processor (I686_CPU in the kernel configuration file): > > % dmesg > % [...] > % CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU) > % [...] Dunno anything about the Xeon, but the Kayak is nuilt like a tank and has got to be == a 686 also. I'll check my dmesg too. --Until very recently, I've gone wit the default (i386??); like: how much faster is gcc tweaking going to be? I guess I'll find out! > > > Second, is it safe to do a buildworld with -O3? If there are > > stability concerns, I'll go with the default when I rebuild my > > 6.2 systems. > > If you're going to do stability/performance/compatibility tests go > ahead. In any other situation just stick with the defaults, which on > 6.2-RELEASE for my Celeron are: > > # (cd /usr/src && make -V CFLAGS ) > -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=pentiumpro > > Note that '-march=pentiumpro' comes from setting 'CPUTYPE=i686' in > /etc/make.conf (examples in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf). Martin Tournoij pointed out what (fine-print) I didn't see [never read/very seldom read] that the world and kernel should be left at O, O2 or their default. I signal to gcc to unroll loops and know that the compiler writers are going to use their learned and practical wisdom regarding loop unrolling... . > > HTH, It has and thanks much. Gotta rebuild, but no big deal! gary > > Karol > > -- > Karol Kwiatkowski > OpenPGP 0x06E09309 > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 05:51:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D65E16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D8F13C45E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l2F5okY4071562; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:50:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <01d301c766c5$ad1b5ab0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Pieter de Goeje" , References: <8a0028260703131234w4834e000o6151316ddb0b492c@mail.gmail.com> <200703132047.08923.pieter@degoeje.nl> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:49:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Adam Gerety Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:51:08 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pieter de Goeje" To: Cc: "Adam Gerety" Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:47 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image > Op dinsdag 13 maart 2007 20:34, schreef Jeff Rollin: > > On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > > Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but > > > please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay > > > away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their > > > misconception is the last thing we want to do. > > > > Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether > > we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it? > Well I don't think you'll be taken seriously when you call it a banana! :) That depends on how long yer banana is and who yer talking to.... Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 06:01:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086E016A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BA713C448 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l2F614dt071640; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:01:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <01e401c766c7$1ce3e190$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jeff Rollin" , "User Questions" References: <20070313173903.H1923@auden.jmla.com><20070314001558.36931.qmail@web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com><8a0028260703140636o3e7bd108yf2832f7e0f236489@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260703140637u4f25a074s38357ed7373a855e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:59:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:01:06 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Rollin" > > I think it needs to be clarified that the reason /why/ the image of > Beastie is so apt to represent a Daemon is only /because/ it LOOKS > like a daemon/devil. How do ye know what thee Angel of the Bottomless Pit looks like? Do ye regularly meet with the Antichrist? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 06:18:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F7816A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE5E13C44C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HRjIL-000998-MT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:18:37 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <4A2E499D-27D6-4676-B7A0-CA56B1CF6699@shire.net> References: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031601C59D59@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> <4A2E499D-27D6-4676-B7A0-CA56B1CF6699@shire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:18:36 -0600 To: User Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: started getting repeated "bge0: PHY read timed out" messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:18:38 -0000 On Mar 6, 2007, at 9:55 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Mar 6, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote: > >> >> Have you looked at the output of 'netstat -i' to see if there are >> interface errors? Also, have you looked at the switch-side interface >> for errors, buffer problems, etc. (if that's possible)? Finally, >> have >> you swapped ports/cables on the switch? >> >> Regards, >> >> Mike > > > Hi Mike > > Right now it seems to be behaving. netstat -i shows no issues and > I have not had the problem recur again once I forced it from auto > negotiation which ended up at 1000tx full duplex to now be 100tx at > full duplex. I don't know if it is related to the problem or not > or is a coincidence that once I did that the problem has not > arisen. It happened about 3 times today before forcing the > connection to be 100tx. OK, this problem has not resurfaced since I hardwired the settings on the port to 100tx and full duplex. I have another system with the same board that got the same problem last Fall when I upgraded from 5.4 to 6.0 or 6.1. The problem this time was on 6.2. I have another one of these boards running on a system with 5.4 without issue at gigabit speed. It appears that something happened in the bge driver from 5.x to 6.x at gigabit speeds, at least with some of the supported chipsets. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 06:27:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2F916A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uzawhtetaung@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB9013C43E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uzawhtetaung@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so60511wrq for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:27:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MlNcKZv/6ptnO04nlc6L0d4GmSqNzO3K8LD5MrQdIJXLWNza3j6ws2saXNzhUjbrj9Lp2p7QNsd5KEvyebqRRF6bbFl5TB5nxqOiaAqxwmKrvVl76YFCLC430AwTAAKZ+rydh1Vr/0WDfrbvTtg1LfwOMY+TljSoJYtTy+5bkoU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=QyVI1720taxOxFoTxJHq2R9k9f11m8cxi91MVOPVEAuDy5Y4icgeSBiGQRbiVphHzliGZfJvBx4Scs59+itfyTqdHq+U7Xa/FEDtgRWigS7KFBgUhtviM2CYiAaNSV5Zsc1j2Ggqt1qqZUCYuBvZHAKlRUJcnKdylCGSL6VCFx8= Received: by 10.114.130.1 with SMTP id c1mr87651wad.1173938605043; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.166.8 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7f391ef40703142303n254c9628w106d105e28d8703f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:03:25 +0000 From: "neo neo" To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:27:27 -0000 hello ; i am new at FreeBSD . Where can i get FreeBSD commands list? thankz . ZAW HTET AUNG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 06:45:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B933A16A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uzawhtetaung@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2D913C468 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uzawhtetaung@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so55117ana for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:45:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ZGXlgU1UQige5WvWOhPeqMliXOF76kVVz9f5coNlImvSuH6v7/gtO74pM1HFdBRKS94fDB1zd78MY+tTu4wAXAMQOEUmiJaxS7M41gWpl6JD/KudP7opydupeS4a6bKRJFveP43fmAeqvbJaircTNHe1CCG8+SxW+dh1fR1nH58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=svX/4HvhvkdQbohdoC+TaU0rwmF0fLEh4360WYGqFAOxqDA1C7LmS8tG7KXgTCb9ylTvDLXNyQVeUg+x/jQYjbM9WEdJsZnqxUKUEg+n48wu8BvTFKSdXj2hVsWbNu0jZtHxF9KH0icjD55focS2UpfeWKXg1HZtiAiK8jKGpu8= Received: by 10.115.78.1 with SMTP id f1mr86068wal.1173941122518; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.166.8 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7f391ef40703142345p518938a4h9aa02edfe0182b3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:45:22 +0000 From: "neo neo" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: squid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:45:23 -0000 hello ; thankz for your reply . could u please help me about that.? How to configure to use my FreeBSD as a proxy with Squid ? thankz a lot ZAW HTET AUNG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 06:48:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2E316A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-in02.adhost.com (mail-in02.adhost.com [216.211.128.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B0D13C4B0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from ad-exh01.adhost.lan (unknown [216.211.143.69]) by mail-in02.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2DF2BD851; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:48:23 -0700 Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031601C5A39E@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: started getting repeated "bge0: PHY read timed out" messages Thread-Index: AcdmyesCeVBckeycTQSZK+R+qYSh8QAA6uBw References: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031601C59D59@ad-exh01.adhost.lan><4A2E499D-27D6-4676-B7A0-CA56B1CF6699@shire.net> From: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , "User Questions" Cc: Subject: RE: started getting repeated "bge0: PHY read timed out" messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:48:24 -0000 Hello Chad: -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:19 PM To: User Questions Subject: Re: started getting repeated "bge0: PHY read timed out" messages On Mar 6, 2007, at 9:55 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Mar 6, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote: > >> >> Have you looked at the output of 'netstat -i' to see if there are >> interface errors? Also, have you looked at the switch-side interface >> for errors, buffer problems, etc. (if that's possible)? Finally, =20 >> have >> you swapped ports/cables on the switch? >> >> Regards, >> >> Mike > > > Hi Mike > > Right now it seems to be behaving. netstat -i shows no issues and =20 > I have not had the problem recur again once I forced it from auto =20 > negotiation which ended up at 1000tx full duplex to now be 100tx at =20 > full duplex. I don't know if it is related to the problem or not =20 > or is a coincidence that once I did that the problem has not =20 > arisen. It happened about 3 times today before forcing the =20 > connection to be 100tx. OK, this problem has not resurfaced since I hardwired the settings on =20 the port to 100tx and full duplex. I have another system with the same board that got the same problem =20 last Fall when I upgraded from 5.4 to 6.0 or 6.1. The problem this =20 time was on 6.2. I have another one of these boards running on a =20 system with 5.4 without issue at gigabit speed. It appears that =20 something happened in the bge driver from 5.x to 6.x at gigabit =20 speeds, at least with some of the supported chipsets. Chad ---- Have you considered hard-setting the speed/duplex to 1000/Full instead of 100/Full? There may be some issues in the autonegotiation happening between switch and server. We used to see some of this early on in inter-vendor GigE connections; perhaps the switch vendor and the FreeBSD devels are reading the standards differently. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 06:50:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211A116A40E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A770F13C4BD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from [218.16.58.208] (helo=munin.tcaportal.com) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML31I-1HRjn62wGw-0000X7; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:50:25 +0100 Received: from [10.0.1.102] (bofh.tcaportal.com [10.0.1.102]) by munin.tcaportal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0ACA6C64 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:47:35 +0800 (HKT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703142345p518938a4h9aa02edfe0182b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f391ef40703142345p518938a4h9aa02edfe0182b3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <704122DE-C686-4CBF-A258-86AAE63AF548@tca-cable-connector.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Schulz Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:50:18 +0800 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+zpnUrAdTH5tbjoNTAEXkXu90Q5IinEJrmHky 6jVQqBlB8RptzQTGjCWrcDNMP+Bc4popaK25KBAvKodNbbds0l UH2DMgRTTFq/DDybz63Ew== Cc: Subject: Re: squid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:50:27 -0000 maybe this can be of help -> http://www.bsdguides.org/guides/freebsd/ networking/squid.php On Mar 15, 2007, at 2:45 PM, neo neo wrote: > hello ; > > thankz for your reply . > > could u please help me about that.? > > How to configure to use my FreeBSD as a proxy with Squid ? > > thankz a lot > > ZAW HTET AUNG > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 06:51:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C8916A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de) Received: from poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3050F13C44C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de) Received: from poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id D4054207238; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:51:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from tu-clausthal.de (poseidon [139.174.2.21]) by poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C1020712C; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:51:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [139.174.4.141] (account ok [139.174.4.141] verified) by tu-clausthal.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTPSA id 21386912; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:51:39 +0100 Message-ID: <45F8ECF3.7020700@rz.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:51:31 +0100 From: Oliver Koch User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: neo neo References: <7f391ef40703142345p518938a4h9aa02edfe0182b3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703142345p518938a4h9aa02edfe0182b3@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA501E140C1814F95CCC6936A" X-Virus-Scanned: by PureMessage V4.7 at tu-clausthal.de Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: squid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:51:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA501E140C1814F95CCC6936A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, neo neo wrote: > How to configure to use my FreeBSD as a proxy with Squid ? you should try a Google search in order to find a howto for the installation of Squid under FreeBSD. I guess you will find serveral howto= s. Kind regards, Oliver --=20 Oliver Koch Phone: +49-(0)5323-72-2626 Computer Center Fax: +49-(0)5323-72-3536 Clausthal University of Technology E-Mail: koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de Erzstra=DFe 51 Web: http://www.rz.tu-clausthal.d= e 38678 Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Germany --------------enigA501E140C1814F95CCC6936A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+Oz2F9sAGRi389URAiFpAKCa/ZP41u04oc/GkJRnMY7s6YM7XgCggnpB LV8bUzp/QURDHAUnwQKU5/c= =lrt4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA501E140C1814F95CCC6936A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 06:54:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A7616A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de) Received: from hades.rz.tu-clausthal.de (hades.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447C313C4B0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de) Received: from hades.rz.tu-clausthal.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 46F42207597; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:54:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from tu-clausthal.de (poseidon [139.174.2.21]) by hades.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054E820758D; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:54:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [139.174.4.141] (account ok [139.174.4.141] verified) by tu-clausthal.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTPSA id 21386959; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:54:16 +0100 Message-ID: <45F8ED98.5080509@rz.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:54:16 +0100 From: Oliver Koch User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: neo neo References: <7f391ef40703142303n254c9628w106d105e28d8703f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703142303n254c9628w106d105e28d8703f@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDDF467B941263D28094114A2" X-Virus-Scanned: by PureMessage V4.7 at tu-clausthal.de Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: (no subject) was: command list for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:54:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDDF467B941263D28094114A2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello neo neo wrote: > i am new at FreeBSD . >=20 > Where can i get FreeBSD commands list? that depends on what you want to do. The list can be very long especially if you start to install things from ports... ;-) Kind regards, Oliver --=20 Oliver Koch Phone: +49-(0)5323-72-2626 Computer Center Fax: +49-(0)5323-72-3536 Clausthal University of Technology E-Mail: koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de Erzstra=DFe 51 Web: http://www.rz.tu-clausthal.d= e 38678 Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Germany --------------enigDDF467B941263D28094114A2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+O2YF9sAGRi389URAo2hAJ9leSj4KYrFBjaH93AWqweBnlK1/wCfS2XE AAO10d2m0kt++5xaWj+lr2M= =e5es -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDDF467B941263D28094114A2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 06:57:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDAB16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4FC13C45D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so66729wrq for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:57:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=gJK5bk+uKFYzJTLqi/E59wnorGPpEE9QCbIduIc/MrqfnTzjzcCYG1bR4zypZCcf1iHslYR08tErmvSo1QQG1wN+ptKbRVQxOhgGG39NdWQX4POkKMQfEVQ51+pxpN4OoDepw96VXvsYHasqb3YJvBC6GdIodqk08UQswq0pygU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=G7oec0gcWevsv/Hq0jdjSvWU4vYCoF9x+wxE6ZBQfegZ8Ywr4Tjt8fCD/VaNGhT7KQ13fWOGFyCs6bsKBjpiPDzK/Tq9wARq8V71VRl+OqpHcm19wCf5bDdx4UP2kx8SBO/Q+77HfKF/QiSmSZb1NzDqxN/Nbzo3+lYCb1puDew= Received: by 10.115.61.1 with SMTP id o1mr91025wak.1173940307664; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.148.18 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0703142331o2ff3d77by270ae6dafa5b632d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:31:47 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: "neo neo" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:57:15 -0000 On 3/15/07, neo neo wrote: > hello ; > > i am new at FreeBSD . > > Where can i get FreeBSD commands list? > > thankz . > > ZAW HTET AUNG Hello, Welcome to FreeBSD, please check http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics.html and http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 07:00:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581AA16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de) Received: from poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE41313C45A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de) Received: from poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id E48AC20723E; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:00:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from tu-clausthal.de (poseidon [139.174.2.21]) by poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF171207238; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:00:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from [139.174.4.141] (account ok [139.174.4.141] verified) by tu-clausthal.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTPSA id 21387077; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:00:10 +0100 Message-ID: <45F8EEFA.1020408@rz.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:00:10 +0100 From: Oliver Koch User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: neo neo References: <7f391ef40703142303n254c9628w106d105e28d8703f@mail.gmail.com> <45F8ED98.5080509@rz.tu-clausthal.de> In-Reply-To: <45F8ED98.5080509@rz.tu-clausthal.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFD73C1BEF51154C1D7E72B66" X-Virus-Scanned: by PureMessage V4.7 at tu-clausthal.de Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: (no subject) was: command list for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:00:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFD73C1BEF51154C1D7E72B66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello again, Oliver Koch wrote: >> Where can i get FreeBSD commands list? >=20 > that depends on what you want to do. The list can be very long > especially if you start to install things from ports... ;-) those links might help you: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-June/049516.htm= l http://www.gsp.com/support/virtual/admin/unix/commands.html But that are only the simplest basics. Google can help you to find out more or take a look at the FreeBSD handbook. The most commands aren't different from the linux commands. Kind regards, Oliver --=20 Oliver Koch Phone: +49-(0)5323-72-2626 Computer Center Fax: +49-(0)5323-72-3536 Clausthal University of Technology E-Mail: koch@rz.tu-clausthal.de Erzstra=DFe 51 Web: http://www.rz.tu-clausthal.d= e 38678 Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Germany --------------enigFD73C1BEF51154C1D7E72B66 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+O76F9sAGRi389URAnAOAJoDGxdN3VX5NkJqQ74Zdbe73q7HrwCfbukR TOFlT7xN095WwhuxmLEo01Y= =UdBV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFD73C1BEF51154C1D7E72B66-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 07:16:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC5A16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phil@philtann.com) Received: from philtann.com (219-90-194-111.static.adam.com.au [219.90.194.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537D113C4B0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phil@philtann.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:34:06 +1030 Message-ID: <92E4E4591E2C8148A695FB9EFD091C2C9011@ts1.Tann.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: (no subject) thread-index: Acdmyybk8IyCkzAbQCyGWzULxnl3VwABPgP6 References: <7f391ef40703142303n254c9628w106d105e28d8703f@mail.gmail.com> From: "Phil Tann" To: "neo neo" , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:16:50 -0000 I've found that Greg Lehey's book - The Complete FreeBSD was a huge help = when I (very recently) started getting into BSD. =20 Kind Regards Phil Tann phil@philtann.com Mobile: 0404 098 268 ________________________________ From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org on behalf of neo neo Sent: Thu 3/15/2007 4:33 PM To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) hello ; i am new at FreeBSD . Where can i get FreeBSD commands list? thankz . ZAW HTET AUNG _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 07:17:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B7C16A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B1D13C45A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2F7HWe5077605 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:17:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id l2F7HViZ077604; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:17:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:17:31 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Message-ID: <20070315071730.GN2435@dan.emsphone.com> References: <499c70c0703142055x5a75ca67p2a87db4b773f2878@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <499c70c0703142055x5a75ca67p2a87db4b773f2878@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Memory leak and deep swap upon the restart? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:17:33 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 15), Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri said: > Hello, > > I have a webmail server, has apache 2.2.4, mysql 5.0.33, php 5.2.1, > clamav, mailscanner ..etc. > > The weird issue it goes into deep swap when it starts or I restart it. > *sigh* > This happened since like 6 months I don't know why? it was okay before that. > > here is the top info > > last pid: 790; load averages: 0.00, 0.06, 0.05 up 0+00:06:50 03:51:28 > 69 processes: 1 running, 68 sleeping > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.6% idle > Mem: 323M Active, 91M Inact, 56M Wired, 27M Cache, 52M Buf, 988K Free > Swap: 2048M Total, 104M Used, 1944M Free, 5% Inuse Right now you're only showing 100M of swap being used; that looks fine, as long as it's not being accessed constantly (watch for "##K in, ##K out" to appear on the Swap: line, or watch the "pi" and "po" columns of "vmstat 5"). If you see constant swap activity, that means you'll need to reduce the number of worker processes for your multiprocess daemons (from your ps output, that means apache, amavisd amd MailScanner), move some processes to another machine, or add RAM. > Here is the ps -aux output > > mail# ps -aux > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND > vscan 482 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) > vscan 483 0.0 0.0 46472 0 ?? IW - 0:00.00 amavisd (virgin child) (perl5.8.8) You have a bunch of amavisd processes that are completely swapped out (0 RSS) and have never consumed any CPU (TIME column). This probably means that you could safely reduce the number of worker processes since they're never used. Also, the MailScanner process is pretty big; maybe there are some settings you can change to make it use less. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 07:53:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D0A16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de (mo-p00-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D7213C45B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) Received: from postit (frnk-590c5279.pool.einsundeins.de [89.12.82.121]) by post.webmailer.de (mrclete mo45) (RZmta 5.1) with ESMTP id F01df8j2F4iHn8 ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:53:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from www.home.roberte.eu (localhost.home.roberte.eu [127.0.0.1]) by postit (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2F7rSLs035034; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:53:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) From: "Robert Eckardt" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:53:28 +0100 Message-Id: <20070315074839.M11325@Robert-Eckardt.de> In-Reply-To: <00c301c766c1$36276060$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <20070314215639.M99480@Robert-Eckardt.de> <00c301c766c1$36276060$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 83.136.72.5 (roberte) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-RZG-AUTH: kN+8IwndSMLtCuBFVkRfThJXBOX2xi0RUSsjpsWeoPRmTmyCUDrmirx0jJoUsg0wLekE X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Cc: Subject: Re: Did I take the wrong bus with FreeBSD 6 to VMware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:53:34 -0000 On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:17:21 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote > Robert, > > You have device driver conflicts with the hardware. Most likely > it is the ata driver and the rocket raid card. The rocket raids are > nice cards but I have had them blow up too. In my case I simply > moved the rocket raid card to a different system where it was rock > solid, and put in a promise card that was blowing up in yet a third > system. I have a whole collection of hardware to play with. > Unfortunately that is what happens when you work with operating > systems that wern't preloaded on the hardware you bought. Ted, I would like to do so, but the RAID-controller is on the motherboard. (That was the main reason for choosing this mobo, since everything I need (and obviously something more) is already on-board.) All I could do was do disable SATA is in BIOS. Is there a way to control the ressources to avoid the conflict? Robert > > Ted > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Eckardt" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:27 PM > Subject: Did I take the wrong bus with FreeBSD 6 to VMware? > > > Hi, > > > > for some time I'm trying to get FreeBSD 6 running on my server > > as a host for VMware and several other functions. > > > > I'm using a 1.7GHz Pentium M 735 on an AOpen i855GMEm-LFS mobo > > w/ USB, VGA, 2xGbit/s, 2xPATA channels etc. on board. > > I used to run FBSD-5.2.1 with vmware3 on an Epox mobo w/ a 2GHz > > Celeron without problems. > > After changing HW (mobo, CPU, HDD) and OS (FBSD6.0) I found the > > system to "freeze" upon accessing an USB device when vmware was > > running. > > So my first investigations led to its driver, but in some cases > > heavy disk I/O was sufficient to cause a freeze. > > > > Since the situation got worse with FreeBSD 6.2 I started to work > > on it more systematically and found the following (actually I was > > on the verge to switch to Linux CentOS 4.4 or OpenSUSE 10.2 with > > VMware Server running nicely, but the HD and network performance > > were disappointing): > > > > 1)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" disabled in BIOS, vmware3 started: > > vmware3 runs fine, but no USB devices. > > > > 2)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, vmware3 started: > > system "freezes" with network connections breaking, endless > > messages > > ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE taskqueue timeout - > completing > > request directly > > ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE taskqueue timeout - > completing > > request directly > > ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES ENABLE RCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing > > request directly > > ad2: WARNING: - SETFEATURES ENABLE WCACHE taskqueue timeout - completing > > request directly > > ad2: WARNING: - SET_MULTI taskq..... > > ad2: FAILURE [or TIMEOUT] - WRITE:DMA timed out [or retrying] LBA=.... > > g_vs_done():ad2s1e[WRITE(offset=...., length=....)]error = 5 > > typing reboot will finally reboot the system after several hours, > > nothing in the logs though. > > > > 3)**ACPI off, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, additional PCI-VGA > > card installed, using either PCI-VGA *or* on-board VGA, vmware3 > > started: > > vmware3 runs fine, also when accessing the USB device. > > > > 4)**ACPI on, "Assign USB IRQ" enabled in BIOS, additional PCI-VGA card > > installed, using on-board VGA, vmware3 started: > > system "freezes" with messages above. > > > > So, what's the relation between the scenarios? > > Where can I tweak the system to get it stable? > > > > Since I spend already several man-days on getting VMware running > > on my machine, I would like to help further debugging by making > > additional tests, but I don't know where to start. > > > > I can live without ACPI (for the time being) -- the old system > > consumes 125W while the Pentium M machine stays at 42W with ACPI > > taking about another 8W in idle-state. > > For me it seems essential why enabling/disabling USB in the BIOS > > or adding an additional PCI-VGA card stabilizes the system and > > why the unstable system behaves the same way like with enabling > > ACPI. > > > > I put some boot_verbose-logs on http://www.robert-eckardt.de/ghost/ > > > > Regards, > > Robert > > > > -- > > Dr. Robert Eckardt --- Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Dr. Robert Eckardt --- Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 08:34:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D310C16A401 for ; 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Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.32.19 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:20:53 +0200 From: "Vlad GURDIGA" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: pause before "Trying to mount root from ufs:" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:47:07 -0000 Hello, My motherboard Intel D955XBK died these day, I took it to service center and they gave me a new one of another model: DP965LT. On my home computer I have dual boot with Windows XP and FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE. I've expected Windows XP not to boot at all after the change, but fortunately it successfully came up, found all new component and everything went smooth. What I did not expect at all is that FreeBSD showed some problems: there is a short pause on boot before (I've measured about 4 seconds) before "SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!", and a long one (I've measured about 90 seconds!!!) between this message and "Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad8s2a". Last night (14.03.2007) I've updated mys source tree (6.2-STABLE) an rebuilt the work and kernel hoping for salvation to come, but it did not. Rebuilt SMP-GENERIC but it did not help either. Another (bad) change that came with the motherboard change is that Xorg is hanging on start without any message. If I try to get back to console with Alt-Ctrl-FN, it beeps. Alt-Ctrl-Backspace does not work either. Keyboard is working: NumLock responds and fortunately Alt-Ctrl-Del works fine too, being the only way out of Xorg's hang. With the exception of motherboard nothing changed in hardware. What could be the cause? Here is the dmesg output. -------- dmesg output start -------- Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Wed Mar 14 23:33:20 EET 2007 root@kpax:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/kpax.smp WARNING: MPSAFE network stack disabled, expect reduced performance. ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2802.82-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf44 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x641d> AMD Features=0x20100000 Cores per package: 2 real memory = 1055305728 (1006 MB) avail memory = 1019219968 (972 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 p4tcc1: on cpu1 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 drm0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0x40000000-0x4fffffff,0x50210000-0x5021ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.25.0 20060524 pci1: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 3.0 (no driver attached) em0: port 0x30c0-0x30df mem 0x50300000-0x5031ffff,0x50324000-0x50324fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0 em0: Ethernet address: 00:19:d1:09:de:de em0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: port 0x30a0-0x30bf irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x3080-0x309f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0x50325400-0x503257ff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: EHCI version 1.0 usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 28.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 28.1 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 atapci0: port 0x1018-0x101f,0x1024-0x1027,0x1010-0x1017,0x1020-0x1023,0x1000-0x100f mem 0x50100000-0x501001ff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 pcib4: at device 28.2 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pcib5: at device 28.3 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 28.4 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 uhci2: port 0x3060-0x307f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci2 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0x3040-0x305f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: on uhci3 usb4: USB revision 1.0 uhub4: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci4: port 0x3020-0x303f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb5: on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub5: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci1: mem 0x50325000-0x503253ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb6: EHCI version 1.0 usb6: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb3 usb4 usb5 usb6: on ehci1 usb6: USB revision 2.0 uhub6: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub6: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib7: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib7 fwohci0: mem 0x50004000-0x500047ff,0x50000000-0x50003fff irq 19 at device 3.0 on pci7 fwohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:90:27:00:01:d9:79:fe fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:90:27:d9:79:fe fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:90:27:d9:79:fe sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0x3138-0x313f,0x314c-0x314f,0x3130-0x3137,0x3148-0x314b,0x3110-0x311f,0x3100-0x310f irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata4: on atapci1 ata5: on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atapci2: port 0x3128-0x312f,0x3144-0x3147,0x3120-0x3127,0x3140-0x3143,0x30f0-0x30ff,0x30e0-0x30ef irq 19 at device 31.5 on pci0 ata6: on atapci2 ata7: on atapci2 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f0 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff,0xd0000-0xd0fff,0xd1000-0xd1fff on isa0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. ad8: 152627MB at ata4-master SATA150 ****** here are about 4 seconds of pause ****** SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! ****** here are about 90 seconds of pause ****** Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad8s2a -------- dmesg output end -------- -------- loader.conf begin -------- autoboot_delay="-1" # Delay in seconds before autobooting, # set to -1 if you don't want user to be # allowed to interrupt autoboot process and # escape to the loader prompt beastie_disable="YES" # Turn the beastie boot menu on and off sound_load="YES" # Digital sound subsystem snd_hda_load="YES" linux_load="YES" linprocfs_load="YES" accf_http_load="YES" cpufreq_load="YES" -------- loader.conf end -------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 08:48:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFC616A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C0713C4AD for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:48:39 +0000 (UTC) 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n6mr213935and.1173948519036; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.111.5 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:48:39 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" To: "Steve Franks" In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703141721r2dd56869k9bf566c4f5064a57@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90703141721r2dd56869k9bf566c4f5064a57@mail.gmail.com> Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: moving binary port as installed from one system to another (openoffice.org-2 amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:48:40 -0000 On 3/15/07, Steve Franks wrote: > No idea why there isn't an openoffice pkg yet for 6.2/amd64, but some > of us are running that on laptops, not servers, and we like to do > things like edit documents. ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/ > Steve -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 09:07:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7528216A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0568D13C45E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624E0DE388; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:48:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:48:46 +0100 From: cpghost To: Jeffrey Goldberg Message-ID: <20070315084846.GA15959@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <682271DA-A9C3-48E0-A18E-8546A7725864@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <682271DA-A9C3-48E0-A18E-8546A7725864@goldmark.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPUTYPE for VIA EPIA M-Series Mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:07:30 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 08:44:21PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > I have one of these > > CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah (999.52-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x691 Stepping = 1 > Features=0x380b035 > > http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp? > motherboard_id=81 > > And 6.2-RELEASE p2 > > When I set CPUTYPE=c3 in /etc/make.conf the world seemed to build > just fine, but (at least) gcc ended up broken. Most compiling > attempts after that ended up with gcc reporting an internal error. > > Now that I've entered the FreeBSD world and am building everything > from source, I would like to take advantage of that by compiling for > my system. > > Does anyone have a similar system? And what CPUTYPE or local tuning > do you recommend? I have CPU: VIA C3 Samuel 2 (533.36-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 Features=0x803035 real memory = 528416768 (503 MB) running FreeBSD 6.2 without problems. The key here is NOT to set CPUTYPE in /etc/make.conf. Just use the defaults and you're fine. > A dmesg for the system is available at > > http://ntp0.goldmark.org/temp/dmesg > > Cheers, > > -j > > > -- > Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 09:14:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B241416A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from srvdmz13.oekb.co.at (srvdmz13.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A77313C465 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-SEF-Processed: 5_0_0_910__2007_03_15_10_14_28 X-SEF-7853D99-ADF1-478E-8894-213D316B8FFA: 1 Received: from msc01-n1 [143.245.2.187] by srvdmz13.oekb.co.at - SurfControl E-mail Filter (5.2.1); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:14:27 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:14:27 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost.oekb.co.at [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2F9ERmo000988 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:14:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2F9EQrx000987 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:14:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:14:26 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2007 09:14:27.0840 (UTC) FILETIME=[55054800:01C766E2] Subject: Build your own ISO-install-CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:14:29 -0000 Hi, I need to build my own ISO-install-CD for FreeBSD 6.2. Is this possible (given an up-to-date /usr/src tree)? If yes, how? Will this process build build a "mini"-CD or a full "Disc1"? Can this "home-brewn" install-CD be used instead of the Disc1 of the 6.2 CD-set when installing a machine from scratch? Will it prompt for the second CD containing the various packages? Thanks in advance for any clue, -ewald PS: Just for explanation: The original 6.2 install-CDs don't support a specific NIC I've got in my blade-systems. A new-version of the corresponding driver has already been submitted though. In order to avoid the "chicken-and-egg-problem" (i.e. can't update the source since the machine can't connect to the net when installed via the original 6.2 CDs) I thought about building a custom 6.2 CD install set from a machine that has up-to-date 6.2 sources. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 09:23:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E8816A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D92A13C455 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2F9MilM068441; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:22:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070315042138.024d5718@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:22:36 -0500 To: Ewald Jenisch , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Build your own ISO-install-CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:23:23 -0000 Just download the disk1 iso image then use nero or cdcreator to burn the CD. -Derek At 04:14 AM 3/15/2007, Ewald Jenisch wrote: >Hi, > >I need to build my own ISO-install-CD for FreeBSD 6.2. Is this >possible (given an up-to-date /usr/src tree)? > >If yes, how? > >Will this process build build a "mini"-CD or a full "Disc1"? > >Can this "home-brewn" install-CD be used instead of the Disc1 of the >6.2 CD-set when installing a machine from scratch? > >Will it prompt for the second CD containing the various >packages? > >Thanks in advance for any clue, >-ewald > >PS: Just for explanation: The original 6.2 install-CDs don't support a >specific NIC I've got in my blade-systems. A new-version of the >corresponding driver has already been submitted though. In order to >avoid the "chicken-and-egg-problem" (i.e. can't update the source >since the machine can't connect to the net when installed via the >original 6.2 CDs) I thought about building a custom 6.2 CD install set >from a machine that has up-to-date 6.2 sources. > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 09:24:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F31116A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8E213C469 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944C4DE388; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:24:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:24:52 +0100 From: cpghost To: neo neo Message-ID: <20070315092452.GA16142@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <7f391ef40703142303n254c9628w106d105e28d8703f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703142303n254c9628w106d105e28d8703f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: List of FreeBSD commands (was: Re: (no subject)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:24:56 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 06:03:25AM +0000, neo neo wrote: > i am new at FreeBSD . > > Where can i get FreeBSD commands list? I assume that by 'command' you mean executable programs that are part of the FreeBSD operating system, or programs that you add later via packages or port... 1. Most commands are in /bin and /usr/bin. 2. Sysadmin (root) commands are in /sbin and /usr/sbin. 3. Commands that you add via the ports system usually end up in /usr/local/bin and /usr/X11R6/bin To get a list of a directory (folder in Windows-speak), just call ls (which is itself in /bin; /bin/ls): % ls /usr/bin (or "ls /usr/bin | more" if the list is too long for one screen) Commands usually (but not always) have a manual page avaiable, e.g.: % man ls Oh, and btw, welcome to FreeBSD. :-) > thankz . > > ZAW HTET AUNG Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 09:25:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F9B16A407 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E975413C46E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Mar 2007 08:59:06 -0000 Received: from 83-65-73-2.treustrasse.xdsl-line.inode.at (EHLO HAL9000) [83.65.73.2] by mail.gmx.net (mp019) with SMTP; 15 Mar 2007 09:59:06 +0100 X-Authenticated: #13322793 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+C8EUvAeyCUN/vyBHn3FNMtW15V28PhcF90qvUnN ENRHUZ2PMe3d92 From: "Nino Ivanov" To: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:59:03 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acdm4C3Bd1Srl11HQTakaDa7cciDnw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:25:48 -0000 Dear Sir or Madam, First of all, I would like to thank all involved in this project for the work they do, and wish them all the best for its continuation. I would like to use FreeBSD on a certain machine, but unfortunately I have a problem with the installation. I would like to mention that I have a non-technical background, which might be relevant regarding any information I supply, and also the way you address my problem. I am writing you with regard to the following issue, and would appreciate your help greatly: 1. Ultimate Goal. I am a law student, and in my field we are working a lot with .pdf-documents. To my surprise, the Midnight Commander is able to display them, at least in FreeBSD 6.1 which I use normally. (I have read somewhere there is no text-mode .pdf-viewer; fortunately, this appears to be incorrect.) I decided to put FreeBSD in text mode on my old laptop, so I can view .pdf-documents on it while working on another machine. 2. The Means. The target machine is a HP Omnibook 600c laptop with 8MB RAM, a 486 DX4 processor, 300 MB disk space. No CD drive. No network available. External floppy drive without DMA. (I tried NetBSD, but because of the lack of DMA it did not work properly.) The functioning of the floppy drive is critical, being the machine's only practical means of communicating with the outer world. Due to cost and time considerations, no upgrades are possible. If the target machine is not suitable for an installation of FreeBSD, please let me know so I stop further attempts. Fortunately, the harddrive can be put into my main machine, a Compaq Armada Laptop whose type I unfortunately don't know. Specifications of the Compaq machine: 192 MB RAM, Internet access available, 300MHz PII CPU, CD drive and floppy drive available. The CD drive cannot boot from CDs, so I am using the boot floppies to initialize installation. The HP Omnibook harddrive fits in by placing it into the PCMCIA slot, as the HP Omnibook drive physically has PCMCIA connections. 3. The Problem. I chose Novice Installation. The next screen informed me of what is to happen now. The screen following it said: No disk found! Please verify that your disk controller is being properly probed at boot time. See the Hardware Guide on the Documentation menu for clues on diagnosing this type of problem. 4. Analysis. Frankly, I have no idea what to do. I have tried to install FreeBSD 4.11 using the same method. It was successful, however, I could not run it on the HP Omnibook machine, as it appears it had not sufficient RAM: The booting process of FreeBSD 4.11 initiated, but after a while started to preduce errors until it broke off. I must say, I have read the documentation, searched many times the Internet etc., but not found anything regarding the issue. Maybe I have overlooked a solution because of my non-technical background. 5. Desired solution. All I want is a FreeBSD system with the Midnight Commander that shall display my .pdf-files on my HP Omnibook 600c. I have no pretentions as to which version, so long as it fits the purpose. So, I would be grateful if you could advise me as to how to correct my installation problem of FreeBSD 2.2.9; however, if another solution looks better to you, please do not hesitate to mention it. I thank you in advance for your help. Yours faithfully, Nino Ivanov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 09:27:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C59316A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CD013C44B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE65BDE388; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:27:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:27:02 +0100 From: cpghost To: Derek Ragona Message-ID: <20070315092702.GB16142@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> <6.0.0.22.2.20070315042138.024d5718@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20070315042138.024d5718@mail.computinginnovations.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Cc: Ewald Jenisch , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build your own ISO-install-CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:27:06 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 04:22:36AM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote: > Just download the disk1 iso image then use nero or cdcreator to burn the CD. Please don't top-post. He meant the command to create the iso image. Something like 'make release' or so... > -Derek > > > At 04:14 AM 3/15/2007, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I need to build my own ISO-install-CD for FreeBSD 6.2. Is this > >possible (given an up-to-date /usr/src tree)? > > > >If yes, how? > > > >Will this process build build a "mini"-CD or a full "Disc1"? > > > >Can this "home-brewn" install-CD be used instead of the Disc1 of the > >6.2 CD-set when installing a machine from scratch? > > > >Will it prompt for the second CD containing the various > >packages? > > > >Thanks in advance for any clue, > >-ewald > > > >PS: Just for explanation: The original 6.2 install-CDs don't support a > >specific NIC I've got in my blade-systems. A new-version of the > >corresponding driver has already been submitted though. In order to > >avoid the "chicken-and-egg-problem" (i.e. can't update the source > >since the machine can't connect to the net when installed via the > >original 6.2 CDs) I thought about building a custom 6.2 CD install set > >from a machine that has up-to-date 6.2 sources. Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 10:02:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4800E16A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9578913C44C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Mar 2007 09:35:41 -0000 Received: from pD952FADE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo) [217.82.250.222] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 15 Mar 2007 10:35:41 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+bumYk8O+bBrilFmTiKO2LH22tCS8sczYZeuoTP5 ruSdWLqm7uH59+ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:35:34 +0100 To: "Jeffrey Goldberg" , questions@freebsd.org From: "Andreas Rudisch" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <682271DA-A9C3-48E0-A18E-8546A7725864@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <682271DA-A9C3-48E0-A18E-8546A7725864@goldmark.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (Win32) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: CPUTYPE for VIA EPIA M-Series Mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:02:24 -0000 On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:44:21 +0100, Jeffrey Goldberg = wrote: > I have one of these > > CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah (999.52-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin =3D "CentaurHauls" Id =3D 0x691 Stepping =3D 1 > Features=3D0x380b035 > > And 6.2-RELEASE p2 > > When I set CPUTYPE=3Dc3 in /etc/make.conf the world seemed to build ju= st = > fine, but (at least) gcc ended up broken. Most compiling attempts aft= er = > that ended up with gcc reporting an internal error. > > Does anyone have a similar system? And what CPUTYPE or local tuning d= o = > you recommend? I have a Via Epia PD10000 with the same CPU and use: CPUTYPE=3D i686 Although it does not seem to be mentioned in = /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf anymore (afaik i686=3D=3Dpentiumpro), it works just fine. Andreas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 10:07:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E74D16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23F913C44B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:07:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu ([151.77.253.161]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FAEZqX008868 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:14:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FA7pTf081699 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:07:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <45F91AE9.1090006@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:07:37 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 212.31.247.179 Subject: Server hanged on VFS lock problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:07:53 -0000 Hello. Yesterday a 6.2/amd64 SMP server of mine entered DDB after a problem with locks. Since I was not there, I instructed one user to type "panic" and I got a dump. Here's what I get: > xxxxx# kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.0 > [GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so: Undefined symbol "ps_pglobal_lookup"] > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd". > > Unread portion of the kernel message buffer: > KDB: stack backtrace: > vfs_badlock() at vfs_badlock+0x95 > assert_vop_elocked() at assert_vop_elocked+0x7d > VOP_WRITE_APV() at VOP_WRITE_APV+0xee > vn_write() at vn_write+0x1ec > dofilewrite() at dofilewrite+0x87 > kern_writev() at kern_writev+0x51 > write() at write+0x4a > syscall() at syscall+0x4d1 > Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 > --- syscall (4, FreeBSD ELF64, write), rip = 0x8017ecbac, rsp = 0x7fffffffb568, rbp = 0x8054079c0 --- > VOP_WRITE: 0xffffff00097f1ca8 is not exclusive locked but should be > KDB: enter: lock violation > Locked vnodes > > 0xffffff00097f1ca8: tag ufs, type VREG > usecount 5, writecount 2, refcount 560 mountedhere 0 > flags () > v_object 0xffffff0002f65000 ref 3 pages 2216 > lock type ufs: SHARED (count 1)#0 0xffffffff80238786 at lockmgr+0x5f6 > #1 0xffffffff8033d558 at ffs_lock+0x58 > #2 0xffffffff803b4df1 at VOP_LOCK_APV+0x81 > #3 0xffffffff802b80cb at vn_lock+0x6b > #4 0xffffffff802b92c6 at vn_write+0x156 > #5 0xffffffff80271b37 at dofilewrite+0x87 > #6 0xffffffff80271e01 at kern_writev+0x51 > #7 0xffffffff80271efa at write+0x4a > #8 0xffffffff803854a1 at syscall+0x4d1 > #9 0xffffffff80370b78 at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 > > ino 1078094, on dev mirror/gm0s1e > panic: from debugger > cpuid = 0 > Uptime: 13d23h8m15s > Dumping 1023 MB (2 chunks) > chunk 0: 1MB (151 pages) ... ok > chunk 1: 1023MB (261744 pages) 1007 991 975 959 943 927 911 895 879 863 847 831 815 799 783 767 751 735 719 703 687 671 655 639 623 607 591 575 559 543 527 511 495 479 463 447 431 415 399 383 367 351 335 319 303 287 271 255 239 223 207 191 175 159 143 127 111 95 79 63 47 31 15 > > #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:172 > 172 __asm __volatile("movq %%gs:0,%0" : "=r" (td)); > (kgdb) Any hint? Is there a way I can get these dumps automatically, without entering DDB, since this is an unattended server? I have this options in my kernel configuration: options KDB options DDB options KDB_UNATTENDED options INVARIANTS options INVARIANT_SUPPORT options WITNESS options DEBUG_LOCKS options DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS options DIAGNOSTIC bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 10:16:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CE416A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E778413C4B8 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 36so112472wra for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:16:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KkuXbtqxhoIiQ3xsOMbvxyE4fCV2fL4dKB12+zu7iZ93U9xfvxhH5OvzCMd1Rpe/pG9+Fir7yDYFXsb51uPIkXZGqz7xv/Z9pWrSVUJifzixt1gcm++CUwG6X5qAtNU9EjANmygXCtfiQf9ayCn5rwJCroy8J0ZXyeovhtKtXfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U0rSKwXk8Jo17NkqXKdlRimZrHE0X+yHsdOVitQwXNc8dkND/JUVyFUH4l47yPp7Q0w2Aqij/OcriCkZFUy3lPU9bVxAg2vhFewvmYpgSw+DErgjJphUTM5pf0RtKpQet8H1A0wx0DUPzZjH/Wc8gIQrtScPIpvUChGxFmYPhHw= Received: by 10.114.133.1 with SMTP id g1mr159447wad.1173953769107; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.148.18 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0703150316x67bd1783g53ad5f7d04ed2682@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:16:09 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: cpghost In-Reply-To: <20070315084846.GA15959@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <682271DA-A9C3-48E0-A18E-8546A7725864@goldmark.org> <20070315084846.GA15959@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: CPUTYPE for VIA EPIA M-Series Mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:16:11 -0000 On 3/15/07, cpghost wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 08:44:21PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > > I have one of these > > > > CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah (999.52-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x691 Stepping = 1 > > Features=0x380b035 > > > > http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp? > > motherboard_id=81 > > > > And 6.2-RELEASE p2 > > > > When I set CPUTYPE=c3 in /etc/make.conf the world seemed to build > > just fine, but (at least) gcc ended up broken. Most compiling > > attempts after that ended up with gcc reporting an internal error. > > > > Now that I've entered the FreeBSD world and am building everything > > from source, I would like to take advantage of that by compiling for > > my system. > > > > Does anyone have a similar system? And what CPUTYPE or local tuning > > do you recommend? > > I have > > CPU: VIA C3 Samuel 2 (533.36-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 > Features=0x803035 > real memory = 528416768 (503 MB) > > running FreeBSD 6.2 without problems. The key here is NOT to set > CPUTYPE in /etc/make.conf. Just use the defaults and you're fine. > > > A dmesg for the system is available at > > > > http://ntp0.goldmark.org/temp/dmesg > > > > Cheers, > > > > -j > > > > > > -- > > Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ > > Regards, > -cpghost. > > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ As cpghost said, there is no big difference when you make an optimization for the time being. You can also check http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags and see what cflag you can use with it. -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 10:16:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025D016A405 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from srvdmz13.oekb.co.at (srvdmz13.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584F913C45A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:16:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-SEF-Processed: 5_0_0_910__2007_03_15_11_16_37 X-SEF-7853D99-ADF1-478E-8894-213D316B8FFA: 1 Received: from msc01-n1 [143.245.2.187] by srvdmz13.oekb.co.at - SurfControl E-mail Filter (5.2.1); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:16:37 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:16:37 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost.oekb.co.at [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FAGanJ002333; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:16:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2FAGaxO002332; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:16:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:16:36 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: cpghost Message-ID: <20070315101636.GA1111@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> <6.0.0.22.2.20070315042138.024d5718@mail.computinginnovations.com> <20070315092702.GB16142@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070315092702.GB16142@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2007 10:16:37.0466 (UTC) FILETIME=[040D0BA0:01C766EB] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build your own ISO-install-CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:16:39 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:27:02AM +0100, cpghost wrote: > > He meant the command to create the iso image. Something like > 'make release' or so... > Hi, Yes you're right - the question is about how to create a *custom* ISO-image. I've already tried the following: cd /usr/src # make release -DMAKE_ISOS `release' is up to date. # yet, no .iso-files to find :-( I also came across /usr/src/release/i386/mkisoimages.sh It needs the following params: "mkisoimages.sh [-b] image-label image-name base-bits-dir [extra-bits-dir]" Where is "base-bits-dir" supposed to be? -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 10:43:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D4316A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [217.20.133.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934DB13C468 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:43:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EEE9F1639; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:43:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id r3PLABZFw-QP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:42:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.2.186] (catv-50635cb6.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.92.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521889F1634; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:42:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F92323.7070606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:42:43 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <45F81DCF.6050309@FreeBSD.org> <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:43:10 -0000 Gary Kline schrieb: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:07:43PM +0100, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > >> Gary Kline schrieb: >> >>> Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading >>> foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by >>> downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting >>> /usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a >>> relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale >>> upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling >>> ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any >>> dependencies. >>> >>> Why is this a bad idea! >>> >>> gary >>> >>> >> The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g. which >> version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you have used, >> what options the port you built it. Some of these applies to packages as >> well, that's why I prefer ports over packages at all. E.g. let's see >> lang/php5. It does not have the apache module enabled by default. If it >> were, then the problem comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the >> default now, but what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your >> apache version from package? The situtation has been already pretty >> complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine tuning, but >> you can use them if you don't have special needs. Binary diffs would be >> so complicated that I think this way we could really not follow. >> >> If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It has an >> option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it fetch packages >> instead of building from source. Nowadays, this network traffic should >> not be a real problem, I think. >> >> > > You've brought up a lot of things I didn't consider; this was > part of the reason for my post. It seems to me that there would > need to be some simple ground rules from the binary patches I'm > got in mind. The *default* CFLAGS in the port would match those > in the patch is one place to start. > > Obviously, this could get way out of hand very quickly. Two of > my slowest servers (one 400MHz, 192M RAM) were rebuilding parts > of the KDE suite; the new kdelib-3.5.6 [??] just finished and I > already scp'd it over to my more beefy platform. Once I've got > all my servers up to date, it may not be that hard to keep them > current. You're right that bandwidth isn't a problem--um, in > most places {{ clearing my throat! }}. Bandwidth isn't the main > issue. It's time. > > As you said, bandwith is not an issue, but time is, what I understand, of course. What I wanted to point out was exactly the same. For time concerns, you can use portupgrade with packages (somebody already mentioned with which option you can do this) and it will fetch the appropriate new packages for you. Binary patches would not make this process much faster if bandwith is not a concern. Regards, Gabor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 10:48:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E6F16A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:48:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2839D13C45A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Mar 2007 10:48:06 -0000 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+z9P0Q/cuz3N8a0snXB61wp7G1gsccKuhleU3GQe CuZ0GDGTjd1uZt From: "Nino Ivanov" To: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:48:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c766ef$6879ad10$5300000a@HAL9000> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acdm4C3Bd1Srl11HQTakaDa7cciDnwADppZw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: WG: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:48:09 -0000 Dear Sir or Madam, =20 I tried again installing FreeBSD 4.11, but the problem is that when I = put back the harddisk into the Omnibook and boot it, the system does not recognize from where to mount root (sorry for the misinformation in my = mail below =96 it appears not to be a RAM issue!). It starts probing devices, = until it finally gives up and asks me to input it manually. I managed finally installing FreeBSD 2.2.9, by using the bootfloppies from 4.11. Same = problem: When booting it does not recognize from where to mount root. I would be grateful if you could help me. =20 Kind regards, =20 Nino Ivanov =20 _____ =20 Von: Nino Ivanov [mailto:niivanov@gmx.net]=20 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. M=E4rz 2007 09:59 An: 'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org' Betreff: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem =20 Dear Sir or Madam, =20 First of all, I would like to thank all involved in this project for the work they do, and wish them all the best for its continuation. =20 I would like to use FreeBSD on a certain machine, but unfortunately I = have a problem with the installation. I would like to mention that I have a non-technical background, which might be relevant regarding any = information I supply, and also the way you address my problem. I am writing you with regard to the following issue, and would appreciate your help greatly: =20 1. Ultimate Goal. =20 I am a law student, and in my field we are working a lot with .pdf-documents. To my surprise, the Midnight Commander is able to = display them, at least in FreeBSD 6.1 which I use normally. (I have read = somewhere there is no text-mode .pdf-viewer; fortunately, this appears to be incorrect.) I decided to put FreeBSD in text mode on my old laptop, so I = can view .pdf-documents on it while working on another machine. =20 2. The Means. =20 The target machine is a HP Omnibook 600c laptop with 8MB RAM, a 486 DX4 processor, 300 MB disk space. No CD drive. No network available. = External floppy drive without DMA. (I tried NetBSD, but because of the lack of = DMA it did not work properly.) The functioning of the floppy drive is critical, being the machine=92s only practical means of communicating with the = outer world. Due to cost and time considerations, no upgrades are possible. If = the target machine is not suitable for an installation of FreeBSD, please = let me know so I stop further attempts. =20 Fortunately, the harddrive can be put into my main machine, a Compaq = Armada Laptop whose type I unfortunately don=92t know. Specifications of the = Compaq machine: 192 MB RAM, Internet access available, 300MHz PII CPU, CD drive = and floppy drive available. The CD drive cannot boot from CDs, so I am using = the boot floppies to initialize installation. The HP Omnibook harddrive fits = in by placing it into the PCMCIA slot, as the HP Omnibook drive physically = has PCMCIA connections. =20 3. The Problem. =20 I chose Novice Installation. The next screen informed me of what is to happen now. The screen following it said: =20 No disk found! Please verify that your disk controller is being properly probed at boot time. See the Hardware Guide on the Documentation menu for clues on diagnosing this type of problem.=20 =20 4. Analysis. =20 Frankly, I have no idea what to do. I have tried to install FreeBSD 4.11 using the same method. It was successful, however, I could not run it on = the HP Omnibook machine, as it appears it had not sufficient RAM: The = booting process of FreeBSD 4.11 initiated, but after a while started to preduce errors until it broke off. =20 I must say, I have read the documentation, searched many times the = Internet etc., but not found anything regarding the issue. Maybe I have = overlooked a solution because of my non-technical background. =20 5. Desired solution. =20 All I want is a FreeBSD system with the Midnight Commander that shall display my .pdf-files on my HP Omnibook 600c. I have no pretentions as = to which version, so long as it fits the purpose. So, I would be grateful = if you could advise me as to how to correct my installation problem of = FreeBSD 2.2.9; however, if another solution looks better to you, please do not hesitate to mention it. =20 I thank you in advance for your help. =20 Yours faithfully, =20 Nino Ivanov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 10:55:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A2316A407; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from auriate.fluffles.net (cust.95.160.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.95.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76D213C469; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:55:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from destiny ([10.0.0.21]) by auriate.fluffles.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HRn0J-0006sJ-G1; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:16:15 +0100 Message-ID: <45F91CF0.6010506@fluffles.net> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:16:16 +0100 From: Fluffles User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061114) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <20070120073117.GB60202@x12.dk> <200703061246.09687.antik@bsd.ee> <45ED5850.6050506@nipsi.de> <200703061420.36980.antik@bsd.ee> <20070307135017.GC2864@garage.freebsd.pl> <45F2EEBD.6070007@barryp.org> <86ps7evniu.fsf@dwp.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86ps7evniu.fsf@dwp.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Barry Pederson Subject: boot2 can't boot from USB? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:55:21 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Barry Pederson writes: > >> Is there any hope for someday optionally using ZFS as a root filesystem? >> > > For that to be possible, both /boot/boot2 and /boot/loader need to > understand ZFS well enough to read files from it. There isn't much > room to spare in /boot/boot2, so we'd have to have a separate version > for ZFS and teach 'disklabel -B' how to pick the right one. > Sorry if this is offtopic. Am i right to assume that: - boot0 and boot1 both read from the disk via BIOS - boot2 tries to read from the disk directly, without BIOS ? If so, i may have found some bugs / problems with boot2. Long ago i tried to make a bootable USB pendrive with FreeBSD 6.1 on it. It failed to boot with the message "invalid slice" and i got a prompt like: FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader boot: Whatever i tried, it fails to load "Loader" or the kernel. Later, i tried FreeNAS which enables the user to write an image to an USB pendrive which contains a bootable FreeNAS installation. The copying went ok, but i got the same boot problem. I then tried it on three different systems with two different USB pendrives and they all had the same problem. All of the systems supported USB boot, and it does actually boot from USB how else could i see that FreeBSD boot prompt? Some systems are brand new: dualcore SLI motherboards, etc. It appears to me the boot2 program fails to read from USB. boot0 and boot1 appear not to have this problem since it uses the BIOS to read from the disk. Is this correct? Are USB boot problems by boot2 known, should i file a PR? Thanks, - Veronica From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 11:03:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDE216A40E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE1C13C4BF for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:03:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l2FB35l7043902 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:03:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200703151103.l2FB35l7043902@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:03:05 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Sendmail on a new Freebsd6.2 Won't Send or Receive. Solved! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:03:06 -0000 "Ted Mittelstaedt" writes: > sendmail_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? Many thanks. That's exactly what I had, but after looking at it again, I also had something much worse in the startup line. This new system is a replacement for the one I am on now and the name is similar. The rc.conf.local file was copied from the old system and this part looks like: sendmail_enable="YES" # Run the sendmail inbound daemon (YES/NO/NONE). # # If NONE, don't start any sendmail processes. sendmail_flags="-L sm-mta -bd -q15m -C/etc/mail/dc.cis.okstate.edu.cf" # Flags to sendmail (as a server) That was the problem. The file name referenced there doesn't exist on the new system. When I used the right configuration file name, all is well. Again, thanks for your help because it made me look everything over once again and find the problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 11:14:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4805316A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bconway@clue4all.net) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [63.240.77.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB0813C45E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bconway@clue4all.net) Received: from ladyluck.clue4all.net (c-24-218-44-66.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[24.218.44.66]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2007031511135901100agjjbe>; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:13:59 +0000 Received: from ladyluck.clue4all.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ladyluck.clue4all.net (Postfix) with SMTP id F3C072D4118; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:13:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:13:43 -0400 From: "Brian J. Conway" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Message-Id: <20070315071343.7763a3ab.bconway@clue4all.net> In-Reply-To: <007b01c76538$03b2ec60$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <20070310105759.6980f90e.bconway@clue4all.net> <007b01c76538$03b2ec60$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Organization: Clue 4 All, Inc. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:14:00 -0000 On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:22:44 -0800 "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > I have found with some of the intel MBs that the latest BIOS update > actually causes trouble. Don't be afraid to try back-flashing to an > older BIOS update. Intel has all the BIOS versions up on their site for > each board. > > Ted Tried a few things in the past couple days: - Set the interfaces to not auto-negotiate and hard-coded them: No change. - Tried the past 3 BIOS revisions I had been using previously: No change. Next up, started swapping around cards. I noticed that one of my 3 3c905C cards hadn't been giving the watchdog timeout errors that I could remember, even though I'm doubting 2/3 of my previously-good cards are actually bad, but I kept that one at xl1 and tried a good 3c905B as xl0. This worked a little differently, now instead of watchdog timeouts, on the previously-normal xl1 I get: Mar 15 05:56:51 imogen kernel: xl1: transmission error: 90 Mar 15 05:56:51 imogen kernel: xl1: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes I know it's *technically* an informational message and not a problem, I'm a perfectionist and would prefer it not to be there. Perhaps I need to start from stratch with some em* cards, they've been working well for me everywhere else. (Original discussion: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-March/144227.html) Brian J. Conway From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 11:28:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C1B16A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E77913C457 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so122347wxc for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:28:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cdDPAQoihKpDmN63VZCTTEE5lAFB8fuqNqzEVYWf0JQKS/6r4+JLadicGAIDWw/go2VPqmuHoJtWpVczka73vekFGQa/gExCU3ypO22Kv1oN3IEQX3x5lBI92uucpR254KPbR20+TNv5g94HzRP8e1oXNIEfvm6RuZvJ1mR23Mw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e4ff1krjtYjFtFv/KMQ12Ia4VxdUw/V8QJen+8uTp/BBbqp8SthNvCPAhCSR9sVeY5cJXsLt+ePIHh8VTIBFmVem8l9JXWM/piYK+BBlsstFGTUS4snWUH7Wjj1cn2rG1nbcVvfnnryelu2fBqry1T4saYnudNUftJINns8VvCE= Received: by 10.70.96.3 with SMTP id t3mr872324wxb.1173958092346; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.14.15 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14989d6e0703150428i30ad83dav554ec225f98312e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:28:12 +0100 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Nino Ivanov" In-Reply-To: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:28:13 -0000 On 15/03/07, Nino Ivanov wrote: > Dear Sir or Madam, > [...] > > The target machine is a HP Omnibook 600c laptop with 8MB RAM, a 486 DX4 > processor, 300 MB disk space. No CD drive. No network available. External > floppy drive without DMA. (I tried NetBSD, but because of the lack of DMA it > did not work properly.) The functioning of the floppy drive is critical, > being the machine's only practical means of communicating with the outer > world. Due to cost and time considerations, no upgrades are possible. If the > target machine is not suitable for an installation of FreeBSD, please let me > know so I stop further attempts. I guess you're without luck in this case. AFAIK FreeBSD needs at least 64 MB RAM to work happily. I tried installing it on an P1/133MHz Laptop with 16MB RAM, and it freezes after a few minutes. And it's dead slow. So I tried NetBSD which worked better on my machine. Maybe there is a switch or configuration setting to turn off DMA for the Floppy Drive? HTH Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 08:18:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78B316A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@areilly.bpa.nu) Received: from qsrv01sl.mx.bigpond.com (qsrv01sl.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.92.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610A813C465 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@areilly.bpa.nu) Received: from oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com ([144.132.228.157]) by omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070315061101.RMYY25724.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com> for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:11:01 +0000 Received: from areilly.bpa.nu ([144.132.228.157]) by oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070315061101.WBNU21236.oaamta07sl.mx.bigpond.com@areilly.bpa.nu> for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:11:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 67839 invoked by uid 501); 15 Mar 2007 06:10:55 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:10:55 +1100 From: Andrew Reilly To: Sean Bryant Message-ID: <20070315061055.GA67812@duncan.reilly.home> References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:44:27 +0000 Cc: freebsdfree.linuxsir@alpha.blogger.com, Kip Macy , Nikolas@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Britton Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:18:23 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:55:20AM -0400, Sean Bryant wrote: > Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated > but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work > for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that. > It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver > is working just fine for me. I have tried the vesa driver. Indeed I re-use it sometimes when I power-cycle the computer, because one of the quirks of the nv driver is that it doesn't seem to be able to put the card into a state where it actually displays a useful or stable image. Once the vesa driver has that sorted out, though, the nv driver seems to work reliably for me, and seems to be slightly faster, thanks (I think) to some 2D acceleration. Other things the nv driver won't do for me: power control of the monitor from screen-saver, and ability to drive my display at its rated 1600x1200 resolution (logs claim that it's restricted to 1280x1024 by BIOS, whatever that means...) I don't think that the vesa driver can do either of those either, though. Cheers, -- Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 11:11:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780B916A406; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB6613C458; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lclejq@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2FBB9C0006935; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:11:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l2FBB9ah006934; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:11:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:11:09 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200703151111.l2FBB9ah006934@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, etc@fluffles.net, Dag-Erling =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= , freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-fs User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:11:15 +0100 (CET) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:44:40 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: boot2 can't boot from USB? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, Dag-Erling =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= , freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:11:22 -0000 Fluffles wrote: > Sorry if this is offtopic. Am i right to assume that: > - boot0 and boot1 both read from the disk via BIOS > - boot2 tries to read from the disk directly, without BIOS > ? No, only the kernel contains drivers that are independent from the BIOS. Everything else (the boot* blocks and /boot/loader) use BIOS calls. > If so, i may have found some bugs / problems with boot2. Long ago i > tried to make a bootable USB pendrive with FreeBSD 6.1 on it. It failed > to boot with the message "invalid slice" and i got a prompt like: > > FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader > boot: > > Whatever i tried, it fails to load "Loader" or the kernel. Later, i > tried FreeNAS which enables the user to write an image to an USB > pendrive which contains a bootable FreeNAS installation. The copying > went ok, but i got the same boot problem. I then tried it on three > different systems with two different USB pendrives and they all had the > same problem. All of the systems supported USB boot, and it does > actually boot from USB how else could i see that FreeBSD boot prompt? > Some systems are brand new: dualcore SLI motherboards, etc. > > It appears to me the boot2 program fails to read from USB. boot0 and > boot1 appear not to have this problem since it uses the BIOS to read > from the disk. Is this correct? No, see above, they all use the BIOS. The difference is that boot2 needs to understand UFS, locate the correct slice and partition with /boot/loader in it and load it. The earlier boot blocks are relatively dumb and only know how to load boot2 from a fixed location on the media. So, if boot2 doesn't work for you, it's probably unable to locate your FreeBSD slice and/or partition. How did you create them? (Another difference is that boot2 enters protected mode in order to be able to access memory above 1 MB, while the earlier boot blocks use pure real mode. But that should not be related to the problem that you see.) > Are USB boot problems by boot2 known, should i file a PR? boot2 doesn't know about USB at all. It only knows about BIOS-accessible drives (which may include USB drives if that's enabled in the BIOS setup). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 12:42:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D67A16A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C859013C484 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so303583ugh for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:42:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=o1+h7V1TU9r4Vv5DfqmO2elfscFfuqGfj4TjJoGsnqa7AltznwDrkhUvA6zPLYkUQPuR/Q4b6w+/yI/IwOiNsidm3wEHnmeg0vLuNQjsIAb6WgZ3V/xM5QRUL1N4PtytIma3qP/eWHtQgRnygb4SVlbVtW34hgi3mqvkpSnThbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RSWAPSGUREFJBRM50SqL+pkj/xykg3ReBQ8jrDv94QmBJ0Z+OOqcME/Tv3bXCHQb79f0Mxkn8JE76huuKG9alzdcfbBwpEWFPogrZxwLQzFS3dZEVCvo0ekNDTFhpEYXm99Fbivvw0YdrAUr7OUDhm3uXljV0PKShB67oNuSzMA= Received: by 10.78.172.20 with SMTP id u20mr332854hue.1173962555077; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.164.13 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8e10486b0703150542v3c5d018chde2c1ad5f8ba09ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:42:34 -0300 From: "Alexandre Biancalana" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8e10486b0703141137rde7b516ufb14f06221792c65@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8e10486b0703141137rde7b516ufb14f06221792c65@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: ifstated check commands behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:42:39 -0000 On 3/14/07, Alexandre Biancalana wrote: > > Hi list, > > I'm trying to setup ifstated to check two links and if some go down, do > some actions like change pf rules and machine's route. > > My doubt is about the execution order/repetition of the states body of > ifstated.conf, in all configs that I tried just the last check is executed > always, follow and example: > > ifstated.conf: > ============================== > loglevel debug > > ping1 = '( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) ' > ping2 = '( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) ' > > state one { > if ! ( $ping1 && $ping2 ) { > set-state two > } > } > > state two { > > init { > run "logger -p console.notice -t ifstated 'Restarting > network !'" > } > > if ( $ping && $ping2 ) { > set-state one > } > } > > ============================== > > # ifstated -dv > ping1 = "( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) " > ping2 = "( "ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null" every 10 ) " > ifstated: initial state: one > ifstated: changing state to one > ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null > ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null > ifstated: started > ifstated: changing state to two > ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site1.com > /dev/null > ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null > ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null > ifstated: running ping -q -c 1 -t 3 www.site2.com > /dev/null > > > As you can see, after change state ifstated execute only the *last* check > command of the statement (ping2) forever.... > > This is the expected behavior ? This shouldn't execute all state body until state change ?? Thanks for any help. Alexandre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 12:44:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF9716A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lelik_b@bk.ru) Received: from mx28.mail.ru (mx28.mail.ru [194.67.23.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEC613C457 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lelik_b@bk.ru) Received: from mx33.mail.ru (mx33.mail.ru [194.67.23.194]) by mx28.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id BCBD96C4773 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:25:53 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [83.219.130.0] (port=11137 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx33.mail.ru with asmtp id 1HRp1k-000Ne7-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:25:52 +0300 Message-ID: <45F93B4C.2010704@bk.ru> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:25:48 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?ItCQ0LvQtdC60YHQtdC5INCRLiI=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: ipnat. Mapping only specified port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:44:42 -0000 I use IPFilter firewall and I need to remap only packets with specified port in destination. Other traffic should not be remapped. IPNAT(5) says following: Matching of packets has now been extended to allow more complex compares. In place of the address which is to be translated, an IP address and port number comparison can be made using the same expressions available with *ipf*. I tried the following line in ipnat.rules: map rl0 from 192.168.0.0/24 to any port=pop3 -> 0.0.0.0/32 But it didn’t help: isrv# ipnat -CF -f /etc/ipnat.rules 0 entries flushed from NAT table 1 entries flushed from NAT list isrv# ipnat -l List of active MAP/Redirect filters: map rl0 from 192.168.0.0/24 to any -> 0.0.0.0/32 List of active sessions: isrv# As you can see, active filter didn’t contain port I need. How can I specify IP address and port number to be translated in ipnat.rules? Or can I restrict NAT for all traffic to specified network? --- Alexey B. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 13:05:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9E716A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3098813C45D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1HRpeW-0002uC-FL; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:05:56 -0600 In-Reply-To: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031601C5A39E@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> References: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031601C59D59@ad-exh01.adhost.lan><4A2E499D-27D6-4676-B7A0-CA56B1CF6699@shire.net> <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031601C5A39E@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <744DB5C3-C799-4F37-9D3A-9C6F224B0FD7@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:05:55 -0600 To: Michael K. Smith - Adhost X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: started getting repeated "bge0: PHY read timed out" messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:05:57 -0000 On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote: > > Have you considered hard-setting the speed/duplex to 1000/Full instead > of 100/Full? There may be some issues in the autonegotiation > happening > between switch and server. We used to see some of this early on in > inter-vendor GigE connections; perhaps the switch vendor and the > FreeBSD > devels are reading the standards differently. I thought of that. However, I thought that if that were the case, the problem would happen at boot and not start at some random time after boot and work for a while first. Is that not a valid thought? Chad > > Mike --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 13:15:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE9116A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:15:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from smtp.enternet.hu (smtp.enternet.hu [62.112.192.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C21B13C448 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:15:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from [62.68.171.97] (helo=[172.16.0.43]) by smtp.enternet.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4) id 1HRpo5-000EhF-Fp; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:15:49 +0100 Message-ID: <45F94706.9090201@freemail.hu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:15:50 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TmFneSBMw6FzemzDsyBac29sdA==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerard Seibert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45F86213.10604@designaproduct.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20070314160910.024dc2f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> <45F867D4.4060405@freemail.hu> <20070314174657.4741d926@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070314174657.4741d926@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: sendmail not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:15:51 -0000 > You haven't configured it correctly. > I think I did. > To enable postfix startup script please add postfix_enable="YES" in > your rc.conf > > If you not need Sendmail anymore, please add in your rc.conf: > > sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > I'm sorry, I did not paste all lines related to sendmail. Here are the options: messias# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep sendm sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" messias# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep postf postfix_enable="YES" > And you can disable some sendmail specific daily maintenance routines > in your /etc/periodic.conf file: > > daily_clean_hoststat_enable="NO" > daily_status_mail_rejects_enable="NO" > daily_status_include_submit_mailq="NO" > daily_submit_queuerun="NO" > Okay, this was missing but I guess this did not affect local mail delivery. > You also need to modify the /etc/mail/mailer.conf file. This is done > automatically by postfix. Yes. When I reinstalled postfix, it asked me if I want to enable postfix in mailer.conf. I answered YES. Here is my mailer.conf: messias# cat /etc/mail/mailer.conf # # Execute the Postfix sendmail program, named /usr/local/sbin/sendmail # sendmail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail send-mail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail mailq /usr/local/sbin/sendmail newaliases /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > If your version is not current, you might want to update it. messias# pkg_info | grep postfix postfix-2.3.5,1 A secure alternative to widely-used Sendmail I know it is not the newest, but should work. I rebooted the machine, but it did not help. By the way, I do NOT want postfix to listen on TCP/25. I have to use an ssh tunnel. But I would like to be able to deliver e-mail messages locally. Here is what I did for now: - deinstalled postfix - changed mailer.conf back to the original version - disabled postfix and re-enabled sendmail in rc.conf - started sendmail with "/etc/rc.d/sendmail start" And it works! But why couldn't I do this with postfix? Thanks, Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 13:38:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060BC16A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA8313C45A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HRqAD-0006x1-Oq; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:38:41 +0000 Received: from [62.31.10.181] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HRqAC-0002Q2-Uv; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:38:40 +0000 Message-ID: <45F94C5F.7070303@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:38:39 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nagy_L=E1szl=F3_Zsolt?= References: <45F86213.10604@designaproduct.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20070314160910.024dc2f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> <45F867D4.4060405@freemail.hu> <20070314174657.4741d926@localhost> <45F94706.9090201@freemail.hu> In-Reply-To: <45F94706.9090201@freemail.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:38:43 -0000 Nagy L=E1szl=F3 Zsolt wrote: > > I'm sorry, I did not paste all lines related to sendmail. Here are the = > options: > > messias# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep sendm > sendmail_enable=3D"NO" > sendmail_submit_enable=3D"NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable=3D"NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable=3D"NO" > messias# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep postf [...] > postfix-2.3.5,1 A secure alternative to widely-used Sendmail > > I know it is not the newest, but should work. Things changed in the way postfix is installed, In particular old ports = required sendmail_enable=3D"YES" and some substitutions to various=20 sendmail commands. To be sure you did the right thing you would have to look at the=20 pkg-message *from the version of the port that you installed*. An old port should work, but you have to make sure that you followed the = instructions from that port. I can't tell whether this is the case for you or not. Either way, it might help to get the latest version of the port (either=20 cvsup/portsnap/csup, or just downloading the latest port from=20 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=3Dpostfix&stype=3Dname and=20 download whichever version it is you have and overwrite the version in=20 /usr/ports (after backing it up :-)) --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 13:51:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FE416A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EFB813C455 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so164706wxc for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.25.3 with SMTP id 3mr425674agy.1173966673509; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.4? ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c53sm949295wrc.2007.03.15.06.51.12; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:51:24 -0400 To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <45F94706.9090201@freemail.hu> References: <20070314174657.4741d926@localhost> <45F94706.9090201@freemail.hu> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20070315094546.EF7C.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.30.04 [en] From: Gerard Subject: Re: sendmail not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:51:14 -0000 On Thursday March 15, 2007 at 09:15:50 (AM) Nagy László Zsolt wrote: > And it works! But why couldn't I do this with postfix? Because you have postfix configured wrong. I would need the output of postconf -n to even begin to tell what is happening. Are you subscribed to the postfix mail forum? http://www.postfix.com/lists.html You can subscribe by sending an email to: majordomo@postfix.org Place this is the body -- not the subject portion: subscribe postfix-users Then once you are subscribed submit your 'postconf -n' output along with your OS version and postfix version. Include the relevant lines from the /var/log/mail.log file as well as what your problem is. By the way, I would still up date to the latest stable version before posting. You have a better chance of getting a satisfactory response. Good luck! -- Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 14:36:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F9C16A408 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lubomir_toshev@dir.bg) Received: from dir.bg (mail.dir.bg [194.145.63.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097E613C483 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lubomir_toshev@dir.bg) Received: from [89.190.214.173] (account lubomir_toshev HELO localhost) by dir.bg (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 51115271 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:36:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:36:15 +0200 From: Lubomir Toshev X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.11) Personal Organization: TOEL Electronics X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <259069285.20070315153615@dir.bg> To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Problem with X11 and S3 Savage video card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lubomir Toshev List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:36:25 -0000 Hello, I am trying to run X11 on a machine with FreeBSD 6.2 and S3 Savage video card. The installation of X11 was successful. The initial test is ok, everything seems to function normally. The problem occures when I try to exit the test with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. At that moment it looks like an attempt is made to switch the video mode and the screen remains black. After some time the monitor goes to power down mode as if there is no video signal. Please, give me a link to a possible solution. -- Best regards, Lubomir Toshev mailto:lubomir_toshev@dir.bg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 14:59:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F418E16A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EEC13C484 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2FExBOT068733; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:59:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2FExBOx068732; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:59:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:59:11 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: neo neo Message-ID: <20070315145911.GA68632@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <7f391ef40703142303n254c9628w106d105e28d8703f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703142303n254c9628w106d105e28d8703f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:59:37 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 06:03:25AM +0000, neo neo wrote: A request, first. Please include a meaningful subject line on messages to the list. Most people will ignore messages with no subject line as all are quite busy enough taking care of things already. > hello ; > > i am new at FreeBSD . > > Where can i get FreeBSD commands list? There is no comprehensive list. That is because it is not only possible, but required and encouraged for you to add to the system what you need or desire to run. There are a few basic thing that exist for everyone. First, you should probably know ls(1) and man(1). ls lists files. man is a utility to display or print the manual page (usually shortened to just 'man' page) for something. Note that the number in parens (1) or (8) or whatever, you will often see refers to the manual section. Most often the one you want is the one that comes up by default, but there are some things with information in more than one man section. Then there are the shell built-in commands. See 'man builtin' It lists the built in shell commands for the two main shell families that are used in the system. sh includes sh and bash. csh includes csh and tcsh. There are others, but less often used. In FreeBSD the default shell is tcsh for a login and mose system scripts use sh. Finally, list the contents of directories /bin /sbin /usr/bin, /usr/sbin and /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin. Those files are almost all utilities that can be executed directly as a command. Check the man page for any that you want to learn about - type 'man yes' (without the quote marks) to see the brief man page for the yes utility, for example. Man pages have a formal/stylized structure and wording. Sometimes that can seem a little dense and you will want to look for additional information in a book or in a search engine on the web. You should also check out the 'man hier' man page as it describes the way FreeBSD file systems and directories are layed out. ////jerry > > thankz . > > ZAW HTET AUNG > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 15:00:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E1A16A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1673E13C457 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2FF0R2C068775; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:00:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2FF0R8n068774; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:00:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:00:27 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: neo neo Message-ID: <20070315150027.GB68632@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <7f391ef40703142345p518938a4h9aa02edfe0182b3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703142345p518938a4h9aa02edfe0182b3@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: squid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:00:52 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 06:45:22AM +0000, neo neo wrote: > hello ; > > thankz for your reply . > > could u please help me about that.? > > How to configure to use my FreeBSD as a proxy with Squid ? You are going to have to learn to read and use documentation. People aren't going to be happy doing thing over that have already been written up, just because you don't read about it. ////jerry > > thankz a lot > > ZAW HTET AUNG > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 15:31:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184A216A407 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856D313C45D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2FFVvYL023048; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:31:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2FFVvDs023047; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:31:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:31:57 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: youshi10@u.washington.edu Message-ID: <20070315153157.GA22789@thought.org> References: <200703150321.18033.danny@ricin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:31:50 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 08:19:49PM -0700, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Danny Pansters wrote: > > >On Thursday 15 March 2007 02:16, Gary Kline wrote: > >> Two quick one for kernel and/or compiler wizards: first, is > >> a 400Mz processor considered a 586 (for my KERNELCONF file)? > > > >Think its 686 (but really, leaving 486 and 586 in isn't going to slow down > >booting or anything!) I always say: Use GENERIC unless you have a good > >reason > >not to. > > > >> Second, is it safe to do a buildworld with -O3? If there are > > > >No. It's not supported if things break. > > > >> stability concerns, I'll go with the default when I rebuild my > >> 6.2 systems. > > > >The defaults should be fine. Also, like I said consider just using GENERIC > >and > >load the odd kmod if needed. Generally it's less headache and equal > >performance. > > > >> thanks in advance, > >> > >> gary > > > >Cheers, > > > >Dan > > As Dan and Gary said -O3 isn't supported, and in many cases that "level of > optimization" gets filtered out while compiling sections of FreeBSD. > > Besides, I've compiled stuff with -O3 and various optimizations in Gentoo > Linux before, and let me say that it caused a great deal of headaches... > that's why I stick with -O2 now, because it's better to have something in > executable shape and a bit slower (arguably because some optimizations slow > things down) than it is to have something run fast and break all the time. > > Some food for thought :). --Food for thought and a chuckle too! (not to mention that it's waaay early, the chickens are still snoring, and I've only had *one* cup of joe)... I've done some investigation with optimizing my own code, usually < 1000 lines, and haven't seen much gain between -O2 and -O3. Loop-unrolling may be different; one trick that compiler hackers at supercomputer companies use by default in to unroll small loops. Cray is one example. Soooo, to get any real gain is going to mean going thru the most freq used tools (*grep, find, ls) and hand-tweak. Might buy 5 - 7%. have a good one, gary > > -Garrett > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 15:35:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AFD16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD7D13C43E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so369827ugh for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:35:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CPclvgOLPsMI6/P28iqJLoBxdewYh6ST2XRMoxOT/iMdqntAtegCZ2XGfzweCwRyVt0bYm/bZHF5kPxS+AQEdb2iGMCvXHgE2ItvYbnu+0Gud/S/B8j7Kx2TESD/kYqzs7Z47HCzlnMipG7sfadoq9Gp3C41Krjw7Od6EEK9F7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JvS3aSi/iNXinuqYRly/kwIuvlkPuh0bs0+JKbKgPkSfeM83kX2TAh12lq5G6kEQwzYwIKvZjdWPggQOeo3HxIVuMR/vctd6AChxM179PEaVZdZNJLBzZZ2lELFXnoaAz4wr3B+d1omGtM+eK2+2Zkm/GHBbtRGkV4L3nx+W9Dg= Received: by 10.66.225.1 with SMTP id x1mr2970278ugg.1173971364364; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [213.47.1.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 54sm2499907ugp.2007.03.15.08.09.23; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45F961B0.4070109@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:09:36 +0100 From: Mike User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org References: <259069285.20070315153615@dir.bg> In-Reply-To: <259069285.20070315153615@dir.bg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Problem with X11 and S3 Savage video card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:35:28 -0000 Lubomir Toshev wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to run X11 on a machine with FreeBSD 6.2 and S3 Savage > video card. The installation of X11 was successful. The initial test > is ok, everything seems to function normally. The problem occures when > I try to exit the test with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. At that moment it > looks like an attempt is made to switch the video mode and the screen > remains black. After some time the monitor goes to power down mode as > if there is no video signal. > > By "test" do you mean you just ran the startx script without having a desktop environment installed? Did an xterm (or rather 3 xterms) pop up? If so, usually closing it or typing "exit" at the prompt inside of it should cause the X-Server to shutdown. As far as killing the server with the keyboard, compare the values in the manpage with those in your configuration file for "man xorg.conf" regarding these options: DontZap, DontVTSwitch, HandleSpecialKeys, and XkbDisable. It may also be that xkbmap is not loading or cannot find your keyboard map. The next time you start the server, try logging all output somewhere and seeing if there are any errors coming up. > Please, give me a link to a possible solution. > > http://linuxreviews.org/man/XF86Config/ http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2004-September/thread.html#3473 (For the above: Read the entire thread starting with Xorg 6.8.1: can't switch VT or resolution) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 15:38:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4346D16A406 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F8013C469 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2FFbDMk072670; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:37:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070315103608.02483230@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:37:04 -0500 To: Lubomir Toshev , questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <259069285.20070315153615@dir.bg> References: <259069285.20070315153615@dir.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Problem with X11 and S3 Savage video card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:38:16 -0000 If your video is AGP, it is likely an AGP issue. AGP cards can be managed by the driver or by the kernel. You need the correct AGP setting. -Derek At 08:36 AM 3/15/2007, Lubomir Toshev wrote: >Hello, > >I am trying to run X11 on a machine with FreeBSD 6.2 and S3 Savage >video card. The installation of X11 was successful. The initial test >is ok, everything seems to function normally. The problem occures when >I try to exit the test with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. At that moment it >looks like an attempt is made to switch the video mode and the screen >remains black. After some time the monitor goes to power down mode as >if there is no video signal. > >Please, give me a link to a possible solution. > >-- >Best regards, > Lubomir Toshev mailto:lubomir_toshev@dir.bg > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 16:23:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389AE16A416 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F28F13C44B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l2FGNOII040982 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:23:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200703151623.l2FGNOII040982@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:23:24 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Trying to Upgrade Version of Tar on a 5.3 System. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:23:25 -0000 I am transfering all our working group files from a FreeBSD5.3 platform to a bigger, faster and FreeBSD6.2 system. I discovered that bsdtar on the 5.3 system doesn't appear to have the --newer-than feature in which you only archive files newer than either a given date or a reference file such as the last monster tar ball from, say, /usr/home. The plan was to copy the monster tar ball over which has happened without problems, and then do a second pass just before we shut the older system down and pick up everybody's files which have changed in a hopefully much smaller tar ball which can then be overlayed to bring everything up to date as to what it was on the old system. The ports collection has gtar and freetar and the older system is using the bsdtar that unpacked from the iso image so it would not be productive to try to install what I already have as there is nothing wrong. Will either freetar or gtar give me the capability to use a reference file to only get the new files that have either appeared or changed since yesterday? Is there another way to use the existing tar that I might have missed that does the same thing? Thanks. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 16:23:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2239516A411 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baka.rob@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D0913C44C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baka.rob@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so332649muf for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:23:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Nog7go3vE24PEEX7SCD2g5Pd0DTtX/VAHuiE0SYgkyfmLBFfApLykoXEHmnHx5LMGNmas/QdU7xSgaZ66uucHEBnUg96A766w9iM0V/y7AkXdPSseuNwvVOLgm8O9X+YfbRTAOdeT3yHk8DSA3yAIUJFuXOEFv3SJdVdnpRLqiE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=S8hmPMYSQhRgddrvntEBAs9kjaOKcmcvRprne+Tf2LHo/nyQD75K8QnRSHeQwyXU7etn5gMQ8edqTzIgjamK8mtv6Zcs69NQJqrQM/Scf6cjxD8uHtovQKdtpyFNxFkhXQyreq40synljKaeVNAza2aDNzhb5E5x/RucqvlaqW8= Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr1016736buc.1173975425025; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.120.9 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:17:04 -0500 From: "James Anderson" To: "Ewald Jenisch" In-Reply-To: <20070315101636.GA1111@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> <6.0.0.22.2.20070315042138.024d5718@mail.computinginnovations.com> <20070315092702.GB16142@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <20070315101636.GA1111@aurora.oekb.co.at> Cc: cpghost , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build your own ISO-install-CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:23:27 -0000 On 3/15/07, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Yes you're right - the question is about how to create a *custom* > ISO-image. I tried to find something about this in the FreeBSD docs, but I didn't look very hard: http://romana.now.ie/writing/customfreebsdiso.html >From the article: """ I needed to install FreeBSD on a system (a Dell PowerEdge 400SC) with an LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 SCSI adapter. At that time support for this device was only available with an mpt driver patch that hadn't yet made it into FreeBSD. I needed to make install media that incorporated the mpt patch. """ It's for a different driver patch, not sure if it will work as I haven't tried it myself, and again it's not the FreeBSD docs, but hopefully it will help a bit. > cd /usr/src > # make release -DMAKE_ISOS > `release' is up to date. > # > > yet, no .iso-files to find :-( > > I also came across /usr/src/release/i386/mkisoimages.sh The link I found was googled with "mkisoimages.sh" as the query string. Most of the results were from CVS check-ins, but if you want to search for more documentation, searching for things that mention that file could be a good start. > It needs the following params: > "mkisoimages.sh [-b] image-label image-name base-bits-dir [extra-bits-dir]" > > Where is "base-bits-dir" supposed to be? > > -ewald -Parker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 16:38:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB13816A4D5 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alberto.crippa@poste.it) Received: from smtp-out4.libero.it (smtp-out4.libero.it [212.52.84.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4692813C4CC for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alberto.crippa@poste.it) Received: from localhost (172.31.0.52) by smtp-out4.libero.it (7.3.120) id 45D9992901B0AFC9 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:14:15 +0100 X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it Received: from smtp-out4.libero.it ([172.31.0.40]) by localhost (asav-out11.libero.it [192.168.32.39]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YHPUvQWx6L+p for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:14:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (151.20.171.233) by smtp-out4.libero.it (7.3.120) id 45D9993D01F73248 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:14:15 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:14:16 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Alberto Crippa Message-ID: <8cea2dad2ded6bcc29d9f083ca65cc6b@localhost> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.73] X-Mailer: phplist v2.10.4 X-MessageID: 33 X-ListMember: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Web Hosting @ StartLogic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:38:35 -0000 Web Hosting @ StartLogic ! 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From $6.50/month. http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-2184376-10305063?sid=93c050fee20b0415473a78138849ce03 Click here for more info -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 16:42:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2663116A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D440913C455 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FGg6t8063548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:42:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id l2FGg6Hs063547; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:42:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:42:06 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Martin McCormick Message-ID: <20070315164206.GP2435@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200703151623.l2FGNOII040982@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703151623.l2FGNOII040982@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trying to Upgrade Version of Tar on a 5.3 System. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:42:08 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 15), Martin McCormick said: > I am transfering all our working group files from a > FreeBSD5.3 platform to a bigger, faster and FreeBSD6.2 system. > I discovered that bsdtar on the 5.3 system doesn't appear to > have the --newer-than feature in which you only archive files > newer than either a given date or a reference file such as the > last monster tar ball from, say, /usr/home. [..] > Will either freetar or gtar give me the capability to > use a reference file to only get the new files that have either > appeared or changed since yesterday? gtar has the --newer and --newer-mtime options, which should suffice for what you need. You could also build the latest bsdtar from http://people.freebsd.org/~kientzle/libarchive/ , but since you just need it for this one operation, building gtar from ports is probably easier. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 16:56:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF4116A405 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alberto.crippa@poste.it) Received: from smtp-out2.libero.it (smtp-out2.libero.it [212.52.84.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C4213C4B8 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alberto.crippa@poste.it) Received: from localhost (172.31.0.43) by smtp-out2.libero.it (7.3.120) id 45D997D801B00C34 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:31:20 +0100 X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it Received: from smtp-out3.libero.it ([172.31.0.39]) by localhost (asav-out3.libero.it [192.168.32.31]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OEpdZeOFp8dX for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:31:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (151.20.171.233) by smtp-out3.libero.it (7.3.120) id 45D9987101FA86F8 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:31:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:31:21 +0100 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: Alberto Crippa Message-ID: <9a3c9d2b467fa0f532fe85e608a448af@localhost> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.73] X-Mailer: phplist v2.10.4 X-MessageID: 33 X-ListMember: questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Web Hosting @ StartLogic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:56:15 -0000 Web Hosting @ StartLogic ! 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From $6.50/month. http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-2184376-10305063?sid=81d9ced2138352b76d03e1949009cf82 Click here for more info -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 17:12:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF09E16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C624613C458 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay6.apple.com (relay6.apple.com [17.128.113.36]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FHCUvd008637; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay6.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay6.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 8864110042; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:12:30 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807124-9dc21bb0000007df-93-45f97e7e16c5 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay6.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 6C2C610B63; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:12:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00da01c766c2$dfaffdd0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <200703141501.l2EF1e2Z267703@shell01.TheWorld.com> <00da01c766c2$dfaffdd0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:12:29 -0700 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Ken Cochran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 & rel5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:12:31 -0000 On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > echo "ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime" > [ ... ] > > I think the ln-s line is backwards, I didn't check it. I think it's > been a while since they used softlinks for localtime The use of "ln -s" will work just fine as written. I don't know why tzsetup makes a copy of the zoneinfo file rather than setting up a symlink, but making a copy simply allows the file in /etc to become out-of-sync if one updates the files under /usr/share{/lib}/zoneinfo without re-running tzsetup again. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 17:22:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5B816A406 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robe@prodal.telemar.cu) Received: from mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu (mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu [200.55.129.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F141F13C455 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robe@prodal.telemar.cu) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu (8.11.7/8.11.7) id l2FI01k03329 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.38.2), claiming to be "prodal.telemar.cu" via SMTP by mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu, id smtpdMXOgcS; Thu Mar 15 17:59:48 2007 Received: from robe ([192.168.200.104]) by prodal.telemar.cu (prodal.telemar.cu) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50000061335.msg for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:59:17 -0500 From: "Robe" To: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:59:05 -0500 Message-ID: <001501c7672b$9f423740$ddc6a5c0$@telemar.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcdnK54FQrqOTYbBS4yT2Dt5V3ZM5g== Content-Language: es-pr X-Spam-Processed: prodal.telemar.cu, Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:59:17 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.200.104 X-Return-Path: robe@prodal.telemar.cu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: prodal.telemar.cu, Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:59:18 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Help installing "nasm" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:22:42 -0000 Hi, =20 I=92m trying to install the Netwide Assembler (nasm) in such a way: =20 # cd /usr/ports/devel/nasm # make =20 But I get the following error:=20 =20 =3D> Couldn=92t fetch it =96 please try to retrieve this port manually = into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. *** Error code 1 =20 I=92m using the stable version 6.1 =20 And I=92m behind a proxy. What can I do? =20 Thanx, =20 -- Robe. =20 Psiquiatr=EDa: el =FAnico negocio donde el cliente nunca tiene la = raz=F3n. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 17:31:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9039716A46F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from JGretz@Angstman.com) Received: from angstman.com (customer-66-213-129-218.velocitus.net [66.213.129.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F30713C459 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from JGretz@Angstman.com) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:37:01 -0600 Message-ID: <150E08CEC4094342AB141E7D7F15E31E613875@hades.dynasty.angstman.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Slim Server thread-index: AcdnJ7zT8gYZHjWxTCOjq2PEnJnlHA== From: "Jason Gretz" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Slim Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:31:39 -0000 Hey guys, I got Slim Server installed=85 although it won=92t load when I = run =93slimserver.pl --daemon=94 I checked out the /var/log folder but I = cannot find out where the log is=85 any ideas? --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: = 3/15/2007 11:27 AM =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 17:35:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E28516A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fkraiem@enib.fr) Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8EA13C45E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fkraiem@enib.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1921.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 33B371C000A5; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:35:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ABordeaux-256-1-177-189.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.16.104.189]) by mwinf1921.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E12F31C000A0; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:35:37 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070315173537922.E12F31C000A0@mwinf1921.orange.fr From: Firas Kraiem To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:36:44 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <001501c7672b$9f423740$ddc6a5c0$@telemar.cu> In-Reply-To: <001501c7672b$9f423740$ddc6a5c0$@telemar.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2861935.Acq0EBIvqf"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200703151836.51959.fkraiem@enib.fr> Cc: Robe Subject: Re: Help installing "nasm" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:35:40 -0000 --nextPart2861935.Acq0EBIvqf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 15 March 2007 18:59:05 Robe wrote: > Hi, > > > > I=92m trying to install the Netwide Assembler (nasm) in such a way: > > > > # cd /usr/ports/devel/nasm > > # make > > > > But I get the following error: > > > > =3D> Couldn=92t fetch it =96 please try to retrieve this port manually in= to > /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > I=92m using the stable version 6.1 > > > > And I=92m behind a proxy. What can I do? > > > > Thanx, > > > > -- > > Robe. > > > > Psiquiatr=EDa: el =FAnico negocio donde el cliente nunca tiene la raz=F3n. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi, is the URL of the file outputted to your terminal ? If so, you could do as = it=20 suggests : download the file yourself, via your web browser or otherwise, a= nd=20 put it in /usr/port/distfiles --nextPart2861935.Acq0EBIvqf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBF+YQz9oNcbMqkGg4RAi32AJ9TzjZWBBCqbY+x2RHGatJ21Ul1nACfX6Mw NwiE26tzoJ0zYoXZlEFxQIQ= =pP0X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2861935.Acq0EBIvqf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 17:37:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE71D16A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE9C13C45A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so415902ugh for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:37:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=JnB66BeY79oK9X9XO4mCp0SlmPtjR82xox3c1CehiQuyEhNkCpnlPe4UBA9n80hLZbC4D2iBxXZJapE5a5EyfUZdcAmwKtRfooRbEaWCoEp9k8m8PK6XFThgEwvGnL1so1+TawpAna6bWPZJPjdvkhlUOzYxXv3sJnVFBCHnLRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=JHo6sSriD+KL0fKHFh7gWuz51MsbFiebQKeCWFC1QrCvg8lj/wpC278MJxjAWY3Ne6rGSZ7almWmeiHAa35rJYEJyuTNjMHUFNeR9CGY8EPe3Qvf6HD/XobziUKjCIaEwpEMLZRIhBPXFt3n3jD7MA6hXfvaEE+2hVxnN3By/44= Received: by 10.82.167.5 with SMTP id p5mr1152876bue.1173980245005; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.155.5 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20703151037q270e46b7x9c528908b8634cc4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:37:24 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Verifying my 3D drivers set up properly for my nVidia based graphics card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:37:29 -0000 I have a 7300GT in my computer, and I have run into a couple of errors trying to set up WoW in Wine (couldn't find copies of the error elsewhere). Also a couple of OpenGL applications are running slower than one would expect given my card (especially in the screen savers area, where the same apps would run /too fast/ with my old Ti4200. These in conjunction lead me to suspect my graphics setup. What application/method would you suggest to test this? I'd prefer something that would provide command line information, rather than "about how fast does this run?" I checked for the libraries mentioned on nVidias web site, and they are all in the right spots, which leads me to suspect it's an xorg.conf error, but I'm not sure. I've attached the xorg.conf file to the end, just in case. Thanks, -Jim Stapleton /etc/X11/xorg.conf: # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (root@elrond.ameritech.net) Tue Feb 6 05:44:08 UTC 2007 Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "type1" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "SAM" ModelName "SyncMaster" HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "Unknown Board" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection /var/log/Xorg.0.log: X Window System Version 6.9.0 Release Date: 21 December 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.9 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.2 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD elrond.ameritech.net 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Fri Mar 2 21:01:49 UTC 2007 root@elrond.ameritech.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JIM20070302 i386 Build Date: 08 February 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Mar 13 17:47:13 2007 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (**) Extension "Composite" is enabled (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 X.Org Video Driver: 0.8 X.Org XInput driver : 0.5 X.Org Server Extension : 0.2 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on freebsd (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so (II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.so (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 10de,005e card 1043,815a rev a3 class 05,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 10de,0050 card 1043,815a rev a3 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:01:1: chip 10de,0052 card 1043,815a rev a2 class 0c,05,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 10de,005a card 1043,815a rev a2 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:02:1: chip 10de,005b card 1043,815a rev a3 class 0c,03,20 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 10de,0059 card 1043,812a rev a2 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:06:0: chip 10de,0053 card 1043,815a rev f2 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 10de,0054 card 1043,815a rev f3 class 01,01,85 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:08:0: chip 10de,0055 card 1043,815a rev f3 class 01,01,85 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 10de,005c card 0000,0000 rev a2 class 06,04,01 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 10de,0057 card 1043,8141 rev a3 class 06,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 10de,005d card 0000,0000 rev a3 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:0c:0: chip 10de,005d card 0000,0000 rev a3 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:0d:0: chip 10de,005d card 0000,0000 rev a3 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:0e:0: chip 10de,005d card 0000,0000 rev a3 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:18:0: chip 1022,1100 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:18:1: chip 1022,1101 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:18:2: chip 1022,1102 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:18:3: chip 1022,1103 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,01df card 19f1,1fe2 rev a1 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 05:06:0: chip 4444,0016 card 0070,8801 rev 01 class 04,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 05:07:0: chip 14f1,8800 card 107d,6613 rev 05 class 04,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Subtractive PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 5: bridge is at (0:9:0), (0,5,5), BCTRL: 0x0202 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 5 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xc4000000 - 0xc4ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B] (II) Bus 5 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xc3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 4: bridge is at (0:11:0), (0,4,4), BCTRL: 0x0002 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 3: bridge is at (0:12:0), (0,3,3), BCTRL: 0x0002 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:13:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0002 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:14:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x000a (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xc5000000 - 0xc7ffffff (0x3000000) MX[B] (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xb0000000 - 0xbfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B] (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:24:0), (0,0,5), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) nVidia Corporation unknown chipset (0x01df) rev 161, Mem @ 0xc5000000/24, 0xb0000000/28, 0xc6000000/24, BIOS @ 0xc7000000/17 (--) PCI: (5:6:0) unknown vendor (0x4444) unknown chipset (0x0016) rev 1, Mem @ 0xc0000000/26 (--) PCI: (5:7:0) unknown vendor (0x14f1) unknown chipset (0x8800) rev 5, Mem @ 0xc4000000/24 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xc8000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xc8001000 - 0xc8001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xc8002000 - 0xc8003fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xc8003000 - 0xc8003fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xfeb00000 - 0xfebfffff (0x100000) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xc8004000 - 0xc8007fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xc4000000 - 0xc4ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xc3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xc7000000 - 0xc701ffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0xc6000000 - 0xc6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0 0xb0000000 - 0xbfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [11] -1 0 0xc5000000 - 0xc5ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [13] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [14] -1 0 0x00000b60 - 0x00000b7f (0x20) IX[B]E [15] -1 0 0x00000960 - 0x0000097f (0x20) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x00000be0 - 0x00000bff (0x20) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x000009e0 - 0x000009ff (0x20) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x00000b70 - 0x00000b7f (0x10) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x00000970 - 0x0000097f (0x10) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x00000bf0 - 0x00000bff (0x10) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x000009f0 - 0x000009ff (0x10) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x00004c40 - 0x00004c7f (0x40) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x00004c00 - 0x00004cff (0x100) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xc8000000 from 0xcfffffff to 0xc8000fff (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00000b60 from 0x00000b7f to 0x00000b6f (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00000960 from 0x0000097f to 0x0000096f (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00000be0 from 0x00000bff to 0x00000bef (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x000009e0 from 0x000009ff to 0x000009ef (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xc8002000 from 0xc8003fff to 0xc8002fff (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00004c00 from 0x00004cff to 0x00004c3f (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xc8000000 - 0xc8000fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xc8001000 - 0xc8001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xc8002000 - 0xc8002fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xc8003000 - 0xc8003fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xfeb00000 - 0xfebfffff (0x100000) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xc8004000 - 0xc8007fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xc4000000 - 0xc4ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xc3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xc7000000 - 0xc701ffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0xc6000000 - 0xc6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0 0xb0000000 - 0xbfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [11] -1 0 0xc5000000 - 0xc5ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [13] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [14] -1 0 0x00000b60 - 0x00000b6f (0x10) IX[B]E [15] -1 0 0x00000960 - 0x0000096f (0x10) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x00000be0 - 0x00000bef (0x10) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x000009e0 - 0x000009ef (0x10) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x00000b70 - 0x00000b7f (0x10) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x00000970 - 0x0000097f (0x10) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x00000bf0 - 0x00000bff (0x10) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x000009f0 - 0x000009ff (0x10) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x00004c40 - 0x00004c7f (0x40) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x00004c00 - 0x00004c3f (0x40) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xc8000000 - 0xc8000fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xc8001000 - 0xc8001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xc8002000 - 0xc8002fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xc8003000 - 0xc8003fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xfeb00000 - 0xfebfffff (0x100000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xc8004000 - 0xc8007fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xc4000000 - 0xc4ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xc3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xc7000000 - 0xc701ffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0xc6000000 - 0xc6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [15] -1 0 0xb0000000 - 0xbfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [16] -1 0 0xc5000000 - 0xc5ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [17] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [19] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x00000b60 - 0x00000b6f (0x10) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x00000960 - 0x0000096f (0x10) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x00000be0 - 0x00000bef (0x10) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x000009e0 - 0x000009ef (0x10) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x00000b70 - 0x00000b7f (0x10) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x00000970 - 0x0000097f (0x10) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x00000bf0 - 0x00000bff (0x10) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x000009f0 - 0x000009ff (0x10) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [31] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [32] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [33] -1 0 0x00004c40 - 0x00004c7f (0x40) IX[B]E [34] -1 0 0x00004c00 - 0x00004c3f (0x40) IX[B]E [35] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.9746 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.1 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "xtrap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxtrap.so (II) Module xtrap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DEC-XTRAP (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.so (II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so (II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 2.1.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.9746 Module class: X.Org Video Driver (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.3 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.5 (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.1 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.5 (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 1.0-9746 Tue Dec 19 13:23:45 PST 2006 (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset NVIDIA GPU found (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.so (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "wfb" (II) LoadModule: "wfb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libwfb.so (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.1.99.2, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.so (II) Module ramdac: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8 (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xc8000000 - 0xc8000fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xc8001000 - 0xc8001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xc8002000 - 0xc8002fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xc8003000 - 0xc8003fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xfeb00000 - 0xfebfffff (0x100000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xc8004000 - 0xc8007fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xc4000000 - 0xc4ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xc3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xc7000000 - 0xc701ffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0xc6000000 - 0xc6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [15] -1 0 0xb0000000 - 0xbfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [16] -1 0 0xc5000000 - 0xc5ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [17] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [19] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x00000b60 - 0x00000b6f (0x10) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x00000960 - 0x0000096f (0x10) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x00000be0 - 0x00000bef (0x10) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x000009e0 - 0x000009ef (0x10) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x00000b70 - 0x00000b7f (0x10) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x00000970 - 0x0000097f (0x10) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x00000bf0 - 0x00000bff (0x10) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x000009f0 - 0x000009ff (0x10) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [31] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [32] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [33] -1 0 0x00004c40 - 0x00004c7f (0x40) IX[B]E [34] -1 0 0x00004c00 - 0x00004c3f (0x40) IX[B]E [35] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xc8000000 - 0xc8000fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xc8001000 - 0xc8001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xc8002000 - 0xc8002fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xc8003000 - 0xc8003fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xfeb00000 - 0xfebfffff (0x100000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xc8004000 - 0xc8007fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xc4000000 - 0xc4ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xc3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xc7000000 - 0xc701ffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0xc6000000 - 0xc6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [15] -1 0 0xb0000000 - 0xbfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [16] -1 0 0xc5000000 - 0xc5ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [17] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [18] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [19] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [20] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [21] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [22] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x00000b60 - 0x00000b6f (0x10) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00000960 - 0x0000096f (0x10) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x00000be0 - 0x00000bef (0x10) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x000009e0 - 0x000009ef (0x10) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x00000b70 - 0x00000b7f (0x10) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x00000970 - 0x0000097f (0x10) IX[B]E [31] -1 0 0x00000bf0 - 0x00000bff (0x10) IX[B]E [32] -1 0 0x000009f0 - 0x000009ff (0x10) IX[B]E [33] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [34] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [35] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [36] -1 0 0x00004c40 - 0x00004c7f (0x40) IX[B]E [37] -1 0 0x00004c00 - 0x00004c3f (0x40) IX[B]E [38] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [39] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [40] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (==) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is (II) NVIDIA(0): enabled. (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 7300 GS at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0) (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.72.22.35.65 (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 7300 GS at PCI:1:0:0: (--) NVIDIA(0): Samsung SyncMaster (CRT-0) (--) NVIDIA(0): Samsung SyncMaster (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock (II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: CRT-0 (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: (II) NVIDIA(0): "1280x1024" (II) NVIDIA(0): "1024x768" (II) NVIDIA(0): "800x600" (II) NVIDIA(0): "640x480" (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 1024 (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (95, 96); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config (--) NVIDIA(0): option (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] 0 0 0xc6000000 - 0xc6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B] [1] 0 0 0xb0000000 - 0xbfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B] [2] 0 0 0xc5000000 - 0xc5ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [4] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [5] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [7] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [8] -1 0 0xc8000000 - 0xc8000fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xc8001000 - 0xc8001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xc8002000 - 0xc8002fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xc8003000 - 0xc8003fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [12] -1 0 0xfeb00000 - 0xfebfffff (0x100000) MX[B]E [13] -1 0 0xc8004000 - 0xc8007fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [14] -1 0 0xc4000000 - 0xc4ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [15] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xc3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [16] -1 0 0xc7000000 - 0xc701ffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [17] -1 0 0xc6000000 - 0xc6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [18] -1 0 0xb0000000 - 0xbfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [19] -1 0 0xc5000000 - 0xc5ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [20] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprD) [21] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [22] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [23] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [24] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [25] -1 0 0x0000b000 - 0x0000b0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x00000b60 - 0x00000b6f (0x10) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x00000960 - 0x0000096f (0x10) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x00000be0 - 0x00000bef (0x10) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x000009e0 - 0x000009ef (0x10) IX[B]E [31] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [32] -1 0 0x00000b70 - 0x00000b7f (0x10) IX[B]E [33] -1 0 0x00000970 - 0x0000097f (0x10) IX[B]E [34] -1 0 0x00000bf0 - 0x00000bff (0x10) IX[B]E [35] -1 0 0x000009f0 - 0x000009ff (0x10) IX[B]E [36] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [37] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [38] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [39] -1 0 0x00004c40 - 0x00004c7f (0x40) IX[B]E [40] -1 0 0x00004c00 - 0x00004c3f (0x40) IX[B]E [41] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [42] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [43] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024" (II) Loading extension NV-GLX (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled (**) Option "dpms" (**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled (II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL (==) RandR enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE (II) Initializing extension GLX (**) Option "Protocol" "auto" (**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/sysmouse" (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "auto" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" (==) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4, 5, 6 and 7 (**) Mouse0: Buttons: 11 (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" (**) Keyboard0: Core Keyboard (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 17:41:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B719416A40A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anna@etecsa.cu) Received: from imx2.etecsa.cu (imx2.etecsa.cu [200.55.152.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CB7013C48C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anna@etecsa.cu) Received: (qmail 10930 invoked by uid 508); 15 Mar 2007 18:13:02 -0000 Received: from 192.168.91.10 by imx2.etecsa.cu (envelope-from , uid 502) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.90.1/2839. Clear:RC:1(192.168.91.10):. Processed in 0.064321 secs); 15 Mar 2007 18:13:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO etecsa.cu) (192.168.91.10) by imx2.etecsa.cu with SMTP; 15 Mar 2007 18:13:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 20431 invoked by uid 509); 15 Mar 2007 18:13:00 -0000 Received: from 192.168.94.17 by mail.etecsa.cu (envelope-from , uid 502) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.87.1/1217. Clear:RC:1(192.168.94.17):. Processed in 0.098816 secs); 15 Mar 2007 18:13:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.94.17?) (192.168.94.17) by etecsa.cu with SMTP; 15 Mar 2007 18:13:00 -0000 Message-ID: <45F97E99.9090706@etecsa.cu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:12:57 -0400 From: Anna Vazquez Nikonova User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20060911) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: 45A52233.1020803@etecsa.cu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0242], KAS30/Release X-SpamTest-Info: Not protected Subject: amarok lyrics: proxy and ruby? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:41:24 -0000 Well the problem is that im behind a proxy and i cant see the lyrics in amarok with 1.4.5 version, it gave me an error with all lyrics scipts for example with LyriWiki is this: Failed to establish a connection with LyricWiki.org SOAP Server. LyricWiki.org is either down or experiencing an problem with their SOAP server. The script will run, but will be less responsive than usual. With Leos script is this: Lyrics could not be retrieved because the server was not reachable. and with the default scipt it gave me this error: Lyrics could not be retrieved because the server was not reachable. To me it seems that is becouse amarok didnt find the proxy.But with older version 1.3.9 i can, what is the problem? Can somebody help me? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 17:42:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C7616A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1E413C44B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [192.168.1.10]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2A728F828; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:42:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Duane Hill X-X-Sender: d.hill@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: Robe In-Reply-To: <001501c7672b$9f423740$ddc6a5c0$@telemar.cu> Message-ID: <20070315173938.S23986@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> References: <001501c7672b$9f423740$ddc6a5c0$@telemar.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-544601686-1173980533=:23986" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help installing "nasm" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:42:36 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-544601686-1173980533=:23986 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Robe wrote: > Hi, > > > > I=92m trying to install the Netwide Assembler (nasm) in such a way: > > > > # cd /usr/ports/devel/nasm > > # make > > > > But I get the following error: > > > > =3D> Couldn=92t fetch it =96 please try to retrieve this port manually in= to > /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > I=92m using the stable version 6.1 > > > > And I=92m behind a proxy. What can I do? I've received the same error a few times in the past. It was caused by the= =20 fact my computer didn't have its NIC configured correctly to establish a=20 connection to the Internet. Could be the same in your case. --0-544601686-1173980533=:23986-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:00:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68F016A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from spunkymail-a13.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-145.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF9F13C46E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (68-184-120-224.dhcp.smyr.ga.charter.com [68.184.120.224]) by spunkymail-a13.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0DA129B2F for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45F989B9.1050908@cyberwang.net> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:00:25 -0400 From: Sean Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070313) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F61BE0.8060502@hier7.com> <39547.68.184.120.224.1173758324.squirrel@webmail.cyberwang.net> <200703130832.15210.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> In-Reply-To: <200703130832.15210.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:00:26 -0000 Norbert Papke wrote: > On Monday 12 March 2007 20:58, sean@cyberwang.net wrote: > >> I'm actually having the same problem, but after I took out device agp out >> of my kernel. And I still cannot start x with nvidia driver. >> >> It complains that /dev/nvidiactl couldn't be opened. And then it says it >> failed to load the kernel module. >> > > It seems that the graphics card is not detected. Does > > 'pciconf -l | grep nvidia' > > show anything? > > What model is it? If it is an older card, you may need the older version of > the NVIDIA driver. > > >> sysctl -a | grep nvidia >> hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 1.0-9746 Tue Dec 19 >> 13:20:59 PST 2006 >> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 >> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 >> hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 >> hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 >> hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.DevicesConnected: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.RmLogonRC: 1 >> hw.nvidia.registry.DetectPrimaryVga: 1 >> hw.nvidia.registry.dwords: >> > > For comparison, here is my output. Note that there are card specific > entries. > > # sysctl -a | grep nvidia > nvidia 603 1293K - 38844 > 16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096 > nvidia0: port 0xbc00-0xbc7f mem > 0xfd000000-0xfdffffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xfc000000-0xfcffffff irq 16 at > device 0.0 on pci3 > nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 1.0-9746 Tue Dec 19 > 13:20:59 PST 2006 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 > hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 > hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.DevicesConnected: 0 > hw.nvidia.registry.RmLogonRC: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.DetectPrimaryVga: 1 > hw.nvidia.registry.dwords: > hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce 7600 GS > hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 05.73.22.16.02 > hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: PCI-E > dev.nvidia.0.%desc: GeForce 7600 GS > dev.nvidia.0.%driver: nvidia > dev.nvidia.0.%location: slot=0 function=0 > dev.nvidia.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x10de device=0x0392 subvendor=0x3842 > subdevice=0xc547 class=0x030000 > dev.nvidia.0.%parent: pci3 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > It seems the driver is attached: nvidia0@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00f910de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 its a 6800 GT. From BFG. I am on CURRENT. And xorg 6.9.0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:07:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEFB16A409 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E8713C46C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so427080ugh for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:07:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y7DdKbf82qI2NVDBtqeaRiKqqRCE892+MR5P4Roku2r1qE1hOY8+1Wmt0uiTJrfpL19agqQN5gK7pPdlaJ5DodLrE2YvbsKN2affyGXf6nvrv0/6yQDwN53HS+KEx07nVGTucD14xkR2Grt5RwjNWBC+SDr5eDXtfbJvDB/eTcE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D1eGUfsndG+3gHGEONT2EYo0BNt0sfYyfIkbj129souODbJh7rMuPDsiT6VqgA4RrZ6zb8k122jRa1xxp9vJfs2LMXnBoXVJ1xKwC7AWQXvow/gP741GstXOmlRwZchfv65Hp0jHr1fbwLo0xEtJJEY1+Ol+tIHH/y1rRaPXtaE= Received: by 10.78.20.13 with SMTP id 13mr500763hut.1173982057412; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [213.47.1.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y2sm3080664mug.2007.03.15.11.07.35; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45F98B79.8030909@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:07:53 +0100 From: Mike User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: 45A52233.1020803@etecsa.cu <45F97E99.9090706@etecsa.cu> In-Reply-To: <45F97E99.9090706@etecsa.cu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: amarok lyrics: proxy and ruby? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:07:44 -0000 Anna Vazquez Nikonova wrote: > To me it seems that is becouse amarok didnt find the proxy.But with > older version 1.3.9 i can, what is the problem? Can somebody help me? > _______________________________________________ > Leave Amarok open and type this in a console window: dcop amarok script proxyForProtocol http If it prints an empty line instead of a string like "http://somehost:someport", you probably need to open kcontrol and configure the proxy settings. Even if you don't use KDE, you need to configure proxy support in kcontrol (don't worry, if you can run Amarok then you have kdelibs, which means you also have kcontrol), because Amarok grabs its knowledge of the proxy addresses from there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:11:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80AD16A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C93313C465 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [192.168.1.194] ([69.4.176.194]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FIBPSn008649 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3E480C27-5678-49A4-B1FD-FF1142BEA818@ketralnis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David King Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:11:03 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: rbl-milter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:11:27 -0000 I'm using mail/rbl-milter-0.30_2 on FreeBSD 6.2 (which sports Sendmail 8.13.8 compiled with -DMILTER). rbl-bilter is a sendmail milter that checks a DNS RBL (in this case, spamcop) to see if an address is a known-spammer, and if so, adds a header to the email rbl-milter starts, and creates a socket in /var/run/rbl-milter srwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 0B 14 Mar 14:27 /var/run/rbl-milter= When I receive an email from a known spammer, I get a message in syslog that looks like this: Mar 14 15:03:05 melchoir rbl-milter[30345]: RBL entry found for 82.23.177.133 So I know that rbl-milter gets the message, and does its lookup. I receive the emails as I would expect, except no header has been added. I'm launching rbl-milter from the shipped a init.d script with: /usr/local/sbin/rbl-milter -l -r -p local:/var/run/rbl-milter -d $BLOCKLIST (where BLOCKLIST is bl.spamcop.net, defined earlier), and the rbl- milter portion of my sendmail.mc looks like: dnl pipe through rbl-milter socket INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`rbl-milter',`S=local:/var/run/rbl-milter') define(`confINPUT_MAIL_FILTERS', `rbl-milter') (the entire sendmail.mc is at the end of the message). The INSTALL file indicates that a negotiation should happen, to quote: 7. Restart sendmail. Send yourself an email. In your maillogs you should see lines like the following: sm-mta[2826]: g19CaLob002826: Milter (rbl-milter): init success to negotiate sm-mta[2826]: g19CaLob002826: Milter: connect to filters sm-mta[2826]: g19CaLob002826: Milter accept: message I do NOT see that negotiation happening (but of course I *do* see rbl- milter indicating that the addresses in the message are on a blocklist). All of this seems to work, since rbl-milter obviously sees the mail and does the proper lookup. Do you know of any way that it would be able to do this, but not able to add the header? I can of course furnish additional configuration, but I'm not sure what's applicable. Here is my entire sendmail.mc: -- cut here -- divert(0) VERSIONID(`$FreeBSD: src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc,v 1.27 2002/10/16 22:52:56 keramida Exp $') OSTYPE(freebsd5) DOMAIN(generic) FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o -T /etc/mail/access') FEATURE(blacklist_recipients) FEATURE(local_lmtp) FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable') FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable') dnl Uncomment the first line to change the location of the default dnl /etc/mail/local-host-names and comment out the second line. dnl define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw') define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/local-host-names') dnl pipe through rbl-milter socket INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`rbl-milter',`S=local:/var/run/rbl-milter') define(`confINPUT_MAIL_FILTERS', `rbl-milter') FEATURE(`local_procmail') dnl set SASL options TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`confDEF_AUTH_INFO', `/etc/mail/auth-info')dnl define(`CERT_DIR', `/etc/ssl')dnl define(`confCACERT_PATH', `CERT_DIR')dnl define(`confCACERT', `CERT_DIR/cacert.pem')dnl define(`confSERVER_CERT', `CERT_DIR/mail-cert.pem')dnl define(`confSERVER_KEY', `CERT_DIR/private/mail-key.pem')dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp, Name=MTA')dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtps, Name=TLSMTA, M=s')dnl define(`confBIND_OPTS', `WorkAroundBrokenAAAA') define(`confMAX_MIME_HEADER_LENGTH', `256/128') define(`confNO_RCPT_ACTION', `add-to-undisclosed') define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,noexpn,novrfy') MAILER(local) MAILER(smtp) -- cut here -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:12:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE1916A405 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1AE13C4BE for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883DA1A4D8D; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D3A1751350; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:12:41 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Christian Walther Message-ID: <20070315181241.GA86652@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <14989d6e0703150428i30ad83dav554ec225f98312e7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0703150428i30ad83dav554ec225f98312e7@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nino Ivanov Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:12:42 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:28:12PM +0100, Christian Walther wrote: > On 15/03/07, Nino Ivanov wrote: > >Dear Sir or Madam, > > > [...] > > > >The target machine is a HP Omnibook 600c laptop with 8MB RAM, a 486 DX4 > >processor, 300 MB disk space. No CD drive. No network available. External > >floppy drive without DMA. (I tried NetBSD, but because of the lack of DMA > >it > >did not work properly.) The functioning of the floppy drive is critical, > >being the machine's only practical means of communicating with the outer > >world. Due to cost and time considerations, no upgrades are possible. If > >the > >target machine is not suitable for an installation of FreeBSD, please let > >me > >know so I stop further attempts. > > I guess you're without luck in this case. AFAIK FreeBSD needs at least > 64 MB RAM to work happily. I tried installing it on an P1/133MHz > Laptop with 16MB RAM, and it freezes after a few minutes. And it's > dead slow. Well it is only true of more modern versions that they do not function well on systems with e.g. 8MB. FreeBSD 2.x was happy with as little as 4MB. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:13:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF7016A407 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81DA13C46E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so429369ugh for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:13:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A3727tydxxhN0v+0j7t81DsfiPf60L3Dfm98cWKa/JSlFn1yhBbblBg2qfJKFk4Tu86M4TBlsDGT5s/hFYZ1SNUhA+sppGWVDNujl4YnxNjRXTZZSKEdXG63nOytyDAbeb/dEyFh/4tiCwHiIhUm4bg9nDVOWdAUgYE9GdbhtUE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i6rk0/QNtXbrv2/iPI2bykA0XXIjXIMFZpZAgk6mqLIvhFpOTXhneRotNmFi/apoUPy2/nRDZgf9yC6l6+uRZEqFBPSXtnXwmBlOkBXo/6X8sy0eJRfH4HZ7h1LpLWQXXalqleOHV2JM5IDQF/2quUkLp4WqGKzfDWNL5aTzhQ0= Received: by 10.82.107.15 with SMTP id f15mr1176370buc.1173980785919; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [213.47.1.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id z37sm2095303ikz.2007.03.15.10.46.23; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45F98681.2030703@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:46:41 +0100 From: Mike User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <001501c7672b$9f423740$ddc6a5c0$@telemar.cu> In-Reply-To: <001501c7672b$9f423740$ddc6a5c0$@telemar.cu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Help installing "nasm" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:13:34 -0000 Robe wrote: > And I’m behind a proxy. What can I do? > > Try following what this guy did. It sounds like you're having the same problem (i.e. fetch not working with a proxy): http://cyberjames.pbwiki.com/FreeBSD:%20Installing%20ports%20via%20proxy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:15:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005B716A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944F113C465 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl) Received: from s040391.lan (a80-100-31-69.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.100.31.69]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FHvK2h023646 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:57:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl) From: Bram Schoenmakers To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:57:19 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 X-Face: &[!|}QvdlkzFIu, |mW.\-Ci1t2d@CEo+#Q14@XM9*@`S, @l*5r-m!\, , kFc:ZlD62]6/>[ Ovg; N[qk; `w6=5abys2!H+EUYcEDJ%lo&d67gO.!/ w@YD{YH]Ebe{@|(qtKgoum%{-=qXlf.+/`^E<'!m"?5d<&C(:B+p*KjP'-Knv!6U<1W!~Z P3ee-{fAb-i+MsJHM@ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703151857.19679.bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl> X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: 'nodump' on directories: new contents still dumped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:15:03 -0000 Hi, I'm using dump(8) for backing up a FreeBSD 4.10 server. In order to decrease the resulting file size, I flagged some directories like /usr/ports and /usr/src with 'nodump'. I adjusted the dump level 0 script to have -h 0, so that worked fine. The other scripts for dumps >0 do not have a -h flag set, because -h 1 is default. The problem is that new files appearing in the /usr/ports tree (daily portsnap cron) do not have the 'nodump' flag set. But despite the 'nodump' flag on the /usr/ports directory, the new files in the tree are still dumped. I understood that dump does not enter directories with 'nodump' flag set, so it shouldn't see the new files inside, right? Or is this behavior implemented in a newer version than FreeBSD 4.10? I have scanned the CVS logs for dump, but couldn't find anything relevant. One 'hack' is to run a script prior to the dump to recursively set all 'nodump' flags where appropriate, but I'm hoping that someone can enlighten me what is going on. Thanks in advance, -- Bram Schoenmakers What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind. (Punch, 1855) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:16:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE94B16A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921F413C455 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2FIFvxD075308; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:15:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45F98D58.50202@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:15:52 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ewald Jenisch References: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build your own ISO-install-CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:16:01 -0000 Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > I need to build my own ISO-install-CD for FreeBSD 6.2. Is this > possible (given an up-to-date /usr/src tree)? IIRC, you actually need a CVS tree outside of /usr/src, unless your /usr/src is actually a repo copy of the CVS tree. It's been a while, so maybe I'm wrong on that. > If yes, how? I did this once, back after 6.0, for the experience as much as anything I can remember now. I don't seem to find any notes, however. release(7) is the canonical reference, and you should be able to do this after a fairly thorough study of same. > Will this process build build a "mini"-CD or a full "Disc1"? It depends on what you tell it to do. If MAKE_ISOS is defined, you will get all of the ISO's that are built with any standard release. I don't know if there are any variables to control *which* of the ISO's might be omitted, etc. I'm thinking maybe not, but IANAE. > Can this "home-brewn" install-CD be used instead of the Disc1 of the > 6.2 CD-set when installing a machine from scratch? I don't see why not, as that is what it is designed for. We used "OurCompany-6.0-RELEASE" on a few servers back then. > Will it prompt for the second CD containing the various > packages? It should behave as any other of the FBSD CDs, providing you follow the instructions and burn the CD correctly. > Thanks in advance for any clue, > -ewald > > PS: Just for explanation: The original 6.2 install-CDs don't support a > specific NIC I've got in my blade-systems. A new-version of the > corresponding driver has already been submitted though. In order to > avoid the "chicken-and-egg-problem" (i.e. can't update the source > since the machine can't connect to the net when installed via the > original 6.2 CDs) I thought about building a custom 6.2 CD install set > from a machine that has up-to-date 6.2 sources. A good reason to give it a try, I suppose. The Friendly manual is what you need, plus a bit of time for reading/planning and a fairly fast build machine --- or a *lot* of time on a slower box. Happy release(7)-ing! Kevin Kinsey -- 1 + 1 = 3, for large values of 1. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:18:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7CC16A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E0C13C4B9 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2FIIm9p075335; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:18:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45F98E03.9060208@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:18:43 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ewald Jenisch References: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> <6.0.0.22.2.20070315042138.024d5718@mail.computinginnovations.com> <20070315092702.GB16142@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <20070315101636.GA1111@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20070315101636.GA1111@aurora.oekb.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build your own ISO-install-CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:18:50 -0000 Ewald Jenisch wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:27:02AM +0100, cpghost wrote: >> He meant the command to create the iso image. Something like >> 'make release' or so... >> > > Hi, > > Yes you're right - the question is about how to create a *custom* > ISO-image. I've already tried the following: > > cd /usr/src > # make release -DMAKE_ISOS > `release' is up to date. > # I believe you're in the wrong WD. Check release(7). > yet, no .iso-files to find :-( > > I also came across /usr/src/release/i386/mkisoimages.sh > It needs the following params: > "mkisoimages.sh [-b] image-label image-name base-bits-dir [extra-bits-dir]" > > Where is "base-bits-dir" supposed to be? I dunno, 'cause in using 'make release' that script is used by make instead of us humans ... ;-) KDK -- The great nations have always acted like gangsters and the small nations like prostitutes. -- Stanley Kubrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:35:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D913616A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from drone3.qsi.net.nz (drone3-svc-skyt.qsi.net.nz [202.89.128.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5677013C44C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: (qmail 12220 invoked by uid 0); 15 Mar 2007 18:35:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chen.org.nz) ([202.89.146.5]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Mar 2007 18:35:02 -0000 Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3772E7E83A; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:35:02 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:35:02 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Martin McCormick Message-ID: <20070315183502.GC42008@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <200703151623.l2FGNOII040982@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703151623.l2FGNOII040982@dc.cis.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trying to Upgrade Version of Tar on a 5.3 System. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:35:04 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:23:24AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > Will either freetar or gtar give me the capability to > use a reference file to only get the new files that have either > appeared or changed since yesterday? There's always find+cpio if you're interested. find /what/ever -mtime -1 -print | cpio -o -H ustar > file.tar Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Lots of folks confuse bad management with destiny" - Kin Hubbard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:37:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0803816A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D3A13C455 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l2FIbUXl068128; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:37:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:37:30 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200703151857.19679.bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <200703151857.19679.bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703151437.30390.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Bram Schoenmakers Subject: Re: 'nodump' on directories: new contents still dumped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:37:37 -0000 On Thursday 15 March 2007 13:57, Bram Schoenmakers wrote: > I'm using dump(8) for backing up a FreeBSD 4.10 server. In order to > decrease the resulting file size, I flagged some directories like > /usr/ports and /usr/src with 'nodump'. I adjusted the dump level 0 script > to have -h 0, so that worked fine. The other scripts for dumps >0 do not > have a -h flag set, because -h 1 is default. > > The problem is that new files appearing in the /usr/ports tree (daily > portsnap cron) do not have the 'nodump' flag set. But despite the 'nodump' > flag on the /usr/ports directory, the new files in the tree are still > dumped. > > I understood that dump does not enter directories with 'nodump' flag set, > so it shouldn't see the new files inside, right? Or is this behavior > implemented in a newer version than FreeBSD 4.10? I have scanned the CVS > logs for dump, but couldn't find anything relevant. Read the dump manpage more carefully, and pay particular attention to the -h flag. You probably want '-h0'. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:42:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD1116A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6E613C44B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550F71D7457; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:17:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp02.kuleuven.be (lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.72]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C921D7854; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:17:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [10.4.16.222]) by smtp02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C28D2CAB15; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:17:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FIHgr6000327; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:17:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:17:36 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <45F97E99.9090706@etecsa.cu> In-Reply-To: <45F97E99.9090706@etecsa.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703151917.41478.tijl@ulyssis.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster Cc: Anna Vazquez Nikonova Subject: Re: amarok lyrics: proxy and ruby? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:42:22 -0000 On Thursday 15 March 2007 18:12:57 Anna Vazquez Nikonova wrote: > Well the problem is that im behind a proxy and i cant see the lyrics in > amarok with 1.4.5 version, it gave me an error with all lyrics scipts > for example with LyriWiki is this: > > Failed to establish a connection with LyricWiki.org SOAP Server. > LyricWiki.org is either down or experiencing an problem with their SOAP > server. The script will run, but will be less responsive than usual. > > With Leos script is this: > > Lyrics could not be retrieved because the server was not reachable. > > and with the default scipt it gave me this error: > > Lyrics could not be retrieved because the server was not reachable. > > To me it seems that is becouse amarok didnt find the proxy.But with > older version 1.3.9 i can, what is the problem? Can somebody help me? Have you asked this on the amarok mailing list or forum? My first guess is that this is an Amarok problem and not FreeBSD. http://amarok.kde.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:45:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAFF16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57F013C459 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l2FIjXXl073364; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:45:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:45:33 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200703151857.19679.bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl> <200703151437.30390.lists@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <200703151437.30390.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703151445.33470.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Bram Schoenmakers Subject: Re: 'nodump' on directories: new contents still dumped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:45:35 -0000 On Thursday 15 March 2007 14:37, John Nielsen wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 13:57, Bram Schoenmakers wrote: > > I'm using dump(8) for backing up a FreeBSD 4.10 server. In order to > > decrease the resulting file size, I flagged some directories like > > /usr/ports and /usr/src with 'nodump'. I adjusted the dump level 0 script > > to have -h 0, so that worked fine. The other scripts for dumps >0 do not > > have a -h flag set, because -h 1 is default. > > > > The problem is that new files appearing in the /usr/ports tree (daily > > portsnap cron) do not have the 'nodump' flag set. But despite the > > 'nodump' flag on the /usr/ports directory, the new files in the tree are > > still dumped. > > > > I understood that dump does not enter directories with 'nodump' flag set, > > so it shouldn't see the new files inside, right? Or is this behavior > > implemented in a newer version than FreeBSD 4.10? I have scanned the CVS > > logs for dump, but couldn't find anything relevant. > > Read the dump manpage more carefully, and pay particular attention to the > -h flag. You probably want '-h0'. Sorry.. I obviously didn't read your post carefully enough. My understanding is the same as yours (also from versions more recent than 4.x), so I don't have any additional input. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 18:53:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B9416A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:53:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61EE13C458 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl) Received: from s040391.lan (a80-100-31-69.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.100.31.69]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FIrcZg034818 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:53:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl) From: Bram Schoenmakers To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:53:33 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <200703151857.19679.bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl> <200703151437.30390.lists@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <200703151437.30390.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Face: &[!|}QvdlkzFIu, |mW.\-Ci1t2d@CEo+#Q14@XM9*@`S, @l*5r-m!\, , kFc:ZlD62]6/>=?iso-8859-1?q?=5B=0A=09Ovg=3BN=5Bqk=3B=60w6=3D5abys2!H+EUYcEDJ?==?iso-8859-1?q?=25lo=26d67gO=2E!/=0A=09w?=@YD{YH]Ebe{@|(qtKgoum%{-=qXlf.+/`^E<'!m"?5d<&C(:B+p*KjP'-Knv!6U<=?iso-8859-1?q?1W!=7EZ=0A=09P3ee-=7BfAb-i+MsJHM?=@ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703151953.36380.bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl> X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: 'nodump' on directories: new contents still dumped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:53:41 -0000 Op donderdag 15 maart 2007, schreef John Nielsen: Hi, > On Thursday 15 March 2007 13:57, Bram Schoenmakers wrote: > > I'm using dump(8) for backing up a FreeBSD 4.10 server. In order to > > decrease the resulting file size, I flagged some directories like > > /usr/ports and /usr/src with 'nodump'. I adjusted the dump level 0 script > > to have -h 0, so that worked fine. The other scripts for dumps >0 do not > > have a -h flag set, because -h 1 is default. > > > > The problem is that new files appearing in the /usr/ports tree (daily > > portsnap cron) do not have the 'nodump' flag set. But despite the > > 'nodump' flag on the /usr/ports directory, the new files in the tree are > > still dumped. > > > > I understood that dump does not enter directories with 'nodump' flag set, > > so it shouldn't see the new files inside, right? Or is this behavior > > implemented in a newer version than FreeBSD 4.10? I have scanned the CVS > > logs for dump, but couldn't find anything relevant. > > Read the dump manpage more carefully, and pay particular attention to the > -h flag. You probably want '-h0'. -h 0 just works fine, that is not the problem. I may have forgotten one detail in case that was not clear. The level 0 backup does not contain any folder marked with 'nodump' (so it's all OK, despite the -h0 you mentioned). New contents (which have no flags set) in these folders emerge in higher level dumps. The problem is that dump(8) enters directories with 'nodump' flags set while it shouldn't. Kind regards, -- Bram Schoenmakers What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind. (Punch, 1855) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 19:05:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B092216A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770AF13C448 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay7.apple.com (relay7.apple.com [17.128.113.37]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FJ5FPi028283; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay7.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay7.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id A5F2330084; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:05:15 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807125-a247bbb0000007df-d8-45f998ebbb2f Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay7.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 9A3B530081; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:05:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <45F94706.9090201@freemail.hu> References: <45F86213.10604@designaproduct.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20070314160910.024dc2f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> <45F867D4.4060405@freemail.hu> <20070314174657.4741d926@localhost> <45F94706.9090201@freemail.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:05:14 -0700 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nagy_L=E1szl=F3_Zsolt?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:05:16 -0000 On Mar 15, 2007, at 6:15 AM, Nagy L=E1szl=F3 Zsolt wrote: > I know it is not the newest, but should work. I rebooted the =20 > machine, but it did not help. By the way, I do NOT want postfix to =20 > listen on TCP/25. I have to use an ssh tunnel. But I would like to =20 > be able to deliver e-mail messages locally. > > Here is what I did for now: > > - deinstalled postfix > - changed mailer.conf back to the original version > - disabled postfix and re-enabled sendmail in rc.conf > - started sendmail with "/etc/rc.d/sendmail start" > > And it works! But why couldn't I do this with postfix? Sendmail combines the functionality of something which listens on =20 port 25 (aka a MTA), with something which performs local delivery =20 (aka a MDA, Mail Delivery Agent), although sendmail can also be =20 configured to use procmail, the OS/vendor-specific MDA "mail.local" =20 or similar, etc. However, if sendmail is not configured to use an =20 external MDA, it will perform local delivery without needing to route =20= the mail via the MTA first. Postfix is designed to keep a firm separation of MTA and MDA =20 functionality for security reasons and always wants to receive =20 incoming mail via the MTA...it will not short-circuit to doing local =20 delivery the way sendmail can. --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 19:13:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EB316A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090B713C457 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so283811ana for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:13:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; 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Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A845913C448 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF051F84F5; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:39:03 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: e/2TOEGTfcZxUh3FVkJFJcB/IuXs0/xGiMhiFX1BJV3j 1173987544 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B9512C33; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:39:02 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <499c70c0703150316x67bd1783g53ad5f7d04ed2682@mail.gmail.com> References: <682271DA-A9C3-48E0-A18E-8546A7725864@goldmark.org> <20070315084846.GA15959@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <499c70c0703150316x67bd1783g53ad5f7d04ed2682@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:39:00 -0500 To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Andreas Rudisch , cpghost , questions@freebsd.org Subject: SUMMARY: CPUTYPE for VIA EPIA M-Series Mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:39:05 -0000 [mailed, posted and bcc'ed to off list respondents] First let me quote my original query: > I have one of these > > CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah (999.52-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x691 Stepping = 1 > Features=0x380b035 > > http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp? > motherboard_id=81 > > And 6.2-RELEASE p2 > > When I set CPUTYPE=c3 in /etc/make.conf the world seemed to build > just fine, but (at least) gcc ended up broken. Most compiling > attempts after that ended up with gcc reporting an internal error. > > Now that I've entered the FreeBSD world and am building everything > from source, I would like to take advantage of that by compiling > for my system. > > Does anyone have a similar system? And what CPUTYPE or local > tuning do you recommend? > > A dmesg for the system is available at > > http://ntp0.goldmark.org/temp/dmesg I've had two responses telling me that the make.conf defaults are just fine, and two (one off list) recommending i686/pentiumpro. One for pentiumpro and the other for i686, but as Andreas Rudish helpfully pointed out, those two are probably the same thing. No one suggested using c3. In fact, cpghost emphatically stated not to use C3 in make.conf Adbullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri also helpfully directed me for information about safe CFLAGS to http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags where the entry for the Via Nehemiah says: ============================================================== Nehemiah (C5XL)/C5P (Via) CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-march=i686 -msse -mmmx -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" note: The more recent versions of the C3 do support the cmov instruction and hence -march=i686. If you must be compatible with all VIA C3 versions, do not use the settings in this section. note: it is also possible to use "-march=c3-2". <-- Comment to this: I got a problem "compiler can't create executables" with this setting. note: I had much better luck with -Os than with -O2. The cache on the nehemiah chips is really small, so making the executables small helps more than anything else. ============================================================== The off list response added > - Setting CPUTYPE to pentium, or pentiumpro both work fine. IIRC, > the C3 designation is Linux-specific and doesn't exist for > FreeBSD. > If everybody agrees that the c3 designation is unwise to use, then probably the distributed /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf The off list responded gave extremely helpful and detailed information about trimming the kernel for a similar box. I've already done most of what that recommends. In sum, don't use the c3 specification in /etc/make.conf even though the example would suggested otherwise. Thanks all for your help -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 19:43:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FB416A404 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djdexter@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF94813C468 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djdexter@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so462324ugh for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:43:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YbYdWVHTiGKgSDqri3gkVpdLqEvmZUBlFosZSwivuLgxRgkPbr5dLYIj8JUgUENfz78Cd8RAWe9uZc0eqcNM2KdrFra2mNHb9SiZ2Ln56icfmYbq4ET4oBJHEk0o9aMomnkTkRMPBk0QdIMEojRAoKdyAKf9Q17+sUv+JPOjyfw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Um+Q9UpPPeFRHJJqP7lYGytmO/i9q8+Mbdlnd/dikPWEzwtM2DPb8rVVjQk6uVipCd6KrfSS2TbXBupRKsVetrpC6i4WRBqOMw2J0Ar+T8ROVTbqoDKkccQUVCpx1xYbCkzY6BgyoC2oQA5kVctLKw8ONJP91JfhwjVlRhLrKqI= Received: by 10.82.155.10 with SMTP id c10mr1371537bue.1173987213898; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.108.4 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:33:33 -0400 From: dex To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8e10486b0703141410n63874da3lf4b4b2ba5fe90d87@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0A8464C8-EC5B-4276-8EDC-E5348F99806D@messier.com> <8e10486b0703141250i5e016058pbc5f6370144fa5c1@mail.gmail.com> <20070314215033.E29424@chylonia.3miasto.net> <8e10486b0703141410n63874da3lf4b4b2ba5fe90d87@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: per-interface default routes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:43:35 -0000 On 3/14/07, Alexandre Biancalana wrote: > On 3/14/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > yes. but ipfw is most universal having all needed things at one place. > > firewalling, routing, shaping, etc. > > PF too. is all at same place. And pf has nat built-in, so it runs in kernel space. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 19:43:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F86F16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B750F13C458 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Mar 2007 19:43:36 -0000 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+y1e1A5wCygXKzgCJDx8iNQ2iQatgVsOwieLnDXH 0JRIX45MOTMtku From: "Nino Ivanov" To: References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <14989d6e0703150428i30ad83dav554ec225f98312e7@mail.gmail.com> <20070315181241.GA86652@xor.obsecurity.org> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:43:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20070315181241.GA86652@xor.obsecurity.org> Thread-Index: AcdnLYg5PoB2REbdSf+Gg5C03Itn7AACpr+A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: AW: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:43:38 -0000 Dear Chistian, Dear Kris, I also think the RAM will not be the issue, as it is a text-only = install, and indeed, I am not planning to "get fancy". I completely don't need X. Midnight Commander is perfectly fine as a working environment. 4.11 = seemed OK. But I am having a different problem right now, which I am still = researching: It does not recognize the device from where to mount root correctly. I = mean the following: When I put FreeBSD into the Compaq for installation, the harddrive is ad4 or ad8. But in the system where I want to run it, the = HP Omnibook, it is ad0. Now, when I start it back in the HP Omnibook, it says that swap is not configured correctly on ad8s-something. Which is true, it should look = for it on ad0... I have only once been able till now to mount root. (And this = is my basis for assuming that even 4.11 CAN potentially run.) I said as = command ufs:/dev/ad0 when it asked me where to mount root from. This worked, however, e.g. ufs:/dev/ad0s1 did not work. I am thinking that I might = have made a mistake, and should have said ad0s1a. Yet, the principal new problem persists: FreeBSD does not realize that = it should now look at ad0 instead of ad4 or ad8. (However, in the booting process, it correctly "sees" ad0 as having 325 MB etc.) Is there a way = to solve this? If this really works I think I'll write a step-by-step guide... I really appreciate your help in this matter - thank you a lot! -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Kris Kennaway [mailto:kris@obsecurity.org]=20 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. M=E4rz 2007 19:13 An: Christian Walther Cc: Nino Ivanov; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Betreff: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:28:12PM +0100, Christian Walther wrote: > On 15/03/07, Nino Ivanov wrote: > >Dear Sir or Madam, > > > [...] > > > >The target machine is a HP Omnibook 600c laptop with 8MB RAM, a 486 = DX4 > >processor, 300 MB disk space. No CD drive. No network available. = External > >floppy drive without DMA. (I tried NetBSD, but because of the lack of = DMA > >it > >did not work properly.) The functioning of the floppy drive is = critical, > >being the machine's only practical means of communicating with the = outer > >world. Due to cost and time considerations, no upgrades are possible. = If=20 > >the > >target machine is not suitable for an installation of FreeBSD, please = let > >me > >know so I stop further attempts. >=20 > I guess you're without luck in this case. AFAIK FreeBSD needs at least > 64 MB RAM to work happily. I tried installing it on an P1/133MHz > Laptop with 16MB RAM, and it freezes after a few minutes. And it's > dead slow. Well it is only true of more modern versions that they do not function well on systems with e.g. 8MB. FreeBSD 2.x was happy with as little as 4MB. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 19:46:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFEA16A407 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robe@prodal.telemar.cu) Received: from mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu (mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu [200.55.129.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713B213C48C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robe@prodal.telemar.cu) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu (8.11.7/8.11.7) id l2FKhnc98316 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.38.2), claiming to be "prodal.telemar.cu" via SMTP by mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu, id smtpdWxC1Iy; Thu Mar 15 20:43:39 2007 Received: from [192.168.200.31] by prodal.telemar.cu (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50000061443.msg for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:43:07 -0500 From: Robe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:37:02 -0500 Message-Id: <1173890222.15236.2.camel@robe-ubuntu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: robe@prodal.telemar.cu X-Spam-Processed: prodal.telemar.cu, Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:43:07 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.200.31 X-Return-Path: robe@prodal.telemar.cu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: prodal.telemar.cu, Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:43:08 -0500 Subject: "elf_begin" returns NULL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:46:16 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to create an object file (.o) using the "libelf" library. Below appear the full source code. Does any body know why the "elf_begin" statement return NULL? #include < stdio.h> #include #include int main() { int FileDes; Elf *pElf = elf_begin(FileDes, ELF_C_WRITE, NULL); // 3rd argument is ignored for "ELF_C_WRITE" if (!pElf) printf("elf_begin: error\n"); Elf32_Ehdr *pEhdr = elf32_newehdr(pElf); if (!pEhdr) printf("elf32_newehdr: error\n"); elf_end(pElf); // Free the memory free(pElf); free(pEhdr); return 0; } Thanx, Robe. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 19:51:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFEA16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABAB13C4B7 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9071A4D8D; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2A46E514EE; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:51:00 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Nino Ivanov Message-ID: <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <14989d6e0703150428i30ad83dav554ec225f98312e7@mail.gmail.com> <20070315181241.GA86652@xor.obsecurity.org> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:51:02 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:43:32PM +0100, Nino Ivanov wrote: > Dear Chistian, Dear Kris, > > I also think the RAM will not be the issue, as it is a text-only install, > and indeed, I am not planning to "get fancy". I completely don't need X. > Midnight Commander is perfectly fine as a working environment. 4.11 seemed > OK. > > But I am having a different problem right now, which I am still researching: > It does not recognize the device from where to mount root correctly. I mean > the following: When I put FreeBSD into the Compaq for installation, the > harddrive is ad4 or ad8. But in the system where I want to run it, the HP > Omnibook, it is ad0. > > Now, when I start it back in the HP Omnibook, it says that swap is not > configured correctly on ad8s-something. Which is true, it should look for it > on ad0... I have only once been able till now to mount root. (And this is my > basis for assuming that even 4.11 CAN potentially run.) I said as command > ufs:/dev/ad0 when it asked me where to mount root from. This worked, > however, e.g. ufs:/dev/ad0s1 did not work. I am thinking that I might have > made a mistake, and should have said ad0s1a. > > Yet, the principal new problem persists: FreeBSD does not realize that it > should now look at ad0 instead of ad4 or ad8. (However, in the booting > process, it correctly "sees" ad0 as having 325 MB etc.) Is there a way to > solve this? Probably the /etc/fstab is wrong and refers to the ad4 or ad8 devices. The root should indeed typically be ufs:/dev/ad0s1a. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 20:11:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9409016A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (pool-71-245-104-192.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.245.104.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DF113C44B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (localhost.home.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2FKBDgQ002270 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:11:14 -0700 Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with UUCP id l2FKBDZh002254 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:11:13 -0700 Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id UAA28235; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:06:10 GMT Message-Id: <200703152006.UAA28235@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:06:10 +0100 From: Dieter Subject: burncd makes disk that is unmountable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:11:17 -0000 AMD64 running 6.0 Drive is: acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA66 Media is CD-RW Burned a 6.2 disk using: burncd data 6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fixate as suggested in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html Seemed to go okay. Disk boots, but I cannot mount it: fstab entry: /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Yields: g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5 Tried it with and without "fixate", neither will mount. Other iso disks (probably burned using NetBSD) mount fine. UFS DVD+RW disks burned under FreeBSD using growisofs mount fine. Given the error message, I assume that the block/sector at 32768 isn't getting written. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 20:37:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDA416A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11D213C44B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2FKaisw071983; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:36:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2FKaiSQ071982; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:36:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:36:44 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Dieter Message-ID: <20070315203644.GA71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200703152006.UAA28235@sopwith.solgatos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703152006.UAA28235@sopwith.solgatos.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burncd makes disk that is unmountable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:37:12 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 01:06:10PM +0100, Dieter wrote: > AMD64 running 6.0 > Drive is: > acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA66 > Media is CD-RW > > Burned a 6.2 disk using: > burncd data 6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fixate > as suggested in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html I don't remember the details, but when I got to 6.1, I found that my old burncd parameters would not work and I had to change them. I don't remember the details, but I settled upon: /usr/sbin/burncd -v -f /dev/acd0 data FreeBSD62-disc1.iso fixate which seems to work find. Both boots and mounts. That doesn't look materially different from yours, but... ////jerry > > Seemed to go okay. Disk boots, but I cannot mount it: > > fstab entry: > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > Yields: > g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5 > > Tried it with and without "fixate", neither will mount. > > Other iso disks (probably burned using NetBSD) mount fine. > UFS DVD+RW disks burned under FreeBSD using growisofs mount fine. > > Given the error message, I assume that the block/sector at 32768 isn't > getting written. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 20:45:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77FF16A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:45:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Received: from magellan.palisadesys.com (magellan.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A4F13C457 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:45:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Received: from [172.16.2.242] (cetus.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by magellan.palisadesys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FKYwAJ042340 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:34:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Message-ID: <45F9ADF1.7060609@palisadesys.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:34:57 -0500 From: Guy Helmer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (magellan.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.211]); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:34:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Palisade-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Palisade-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Palisade-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Palisade-MailScanner-From: ghelmer@palisadesys.com Subject: 6.2-amd64 Hang at reboot on Supermicro X7DBR-i+ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:45:30 -0000 I'm investigating a problem where a pretty much stock 6.2 SMP kernel randomly hangs on multiple Supermicro X7DBR-i+ and X7DBR-8+ systems. The system syncs the filesystems and prints "Uptime: ...", then hangs. So far, I've narrowed it down to the MOD_SHUTDOWN request to the "rootbus" module. Adding a printf() before and after the "device_shutdown(child);" line in subr_bus.c method bus_generic_shutdown() seems to make the problem go away, as does running a kernel with INVARIANTS, WITNESS, and DDB/KDB. I'm trying to reproduce the hang on a plain SMP kernel with just DDB/KDB, but it hasn't hung yet. Any ideas? Guy -- Guy Helmer, Ph.D. Chief System Architect Palisade Systems, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 20:47:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D6416A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DEB13C46A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from c-68-49-149-185.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([68.49.149.185] helo=schnarff.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HRwqp-000EUy-JU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:47:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 14726 invoked by uid 67); 15 Mar 2007 20:47:06 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.68 ([192.168.2.68]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:47:06 -0400 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 68.49.149.185 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: schnarff Message-ID: <20070315164706.4fy8vlmhw00kk4s8@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:47:06 -0400 From: alex@schnarff.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) Subject: Should I Upgrade 5.4 -> 6.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:47:09 -0000 First off, I want to thank the people who responded to my thread "Stability Issues on a 5.4-RELEASE box" a couple of weeks ago; after disabling hyperthreading, getting a clean run of Memtest back, and doing some serious fsck'ing of the disks, the box appears to now be completely stable. I'm still not sure which of the above fixed the problem...but I'll take a stable system at this point. :-) That said, in that thread I had asked about the advisability of upgrading to 6.2, and it was intelligently pointed out that doing so in pursuit of stability was a bad idea. Now that the box is stable, though, I'm back to the same question: should I make the upgrade, and if so, how should I do it? My primary driver for doing so would be to keep current enough that I'm still getting security and other patches on a regular basis, and that I can upgrade my applications from ports as necessary. If this is not an issue, then my only remaining concern would be that it's usually easier to get support on lists like this if you're running a modern version of the OS (that's certainly the case with the OpenBSD folks). My primary concern with upgrading is that the box is in Portland, OR, and I'm in Arlington, VA...and while the ISP is friendly, I doubt that I could count on them for major system recovery if I botch something during the upgrade. My other worry is that I don't want to break existing apps if possible (the main one I'm concerned about is Zope/Plone). This is a production box with moderate traffic, and it would be a problem if there was extensive downtime. Is it worth upgrading? If so, what's the best way to do so -- CVSup, or some other way? Are there any major caveats if I do choose to upgrade (or choose to stay with the existing OS)? Thanks, Alex Kirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 20:55:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AA816A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2AA13C45E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49531A4D8D; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CD7B9515F1; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:55:49 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: alex@schnarff.com Message-ID: <20070315205549.GA88763@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070315164706.4fy8vlmhw00kk4s8@mail.schnarff.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070315164706.4fy8vlmhw00kk4s8@mail.schnarff.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should I Upgrade 5.4 -> 6.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:55:50 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 04:47:06PM -0400, alex@schnarff.com wrote: > First off, I want to thank the people who responded to my thread > "Stability Issues on a 5.4-RELEASE box" a couple of weeks ago; after > disabling hyperthreading, getting a clean run of Memtest back, and > doing some serious fsck'ing of the disks, the box appears to now be > completely stable. I'm still not sure which of the above fixed the > problem...but I'll take a stable system at this point. :-) > > That said, in that thread I had asked about the advisability of > upgrading to 6.2, and it was intelligently pointed out that doing so in > pursuit of stability was a bad idea. Now that the box is stable, > though, I'm back to the same question: should I make the upgrade, and > if so, how should I do it? > > My primary driver for doing so would be to keep current enough that I'm > still getting security and other patches on a regular basis, and that I > can upgrade my applications from ports as necessary. If this is not an > issue, then my only remaining concern would be that it's usually easier > to get support on lists like this if you're running a modern version of > the OS (that's certainly the case with the OpenBSD folks). > > My primary concern with upgrading is that the box is in Portland, OR, > and I'm in Arlington, VA...and while the ISP is friendly, I doubt that > I could count on them for major system recovery if I botch something > during the upgrade. My other worry is that I don't want to break > existing apps if possible (the main one I'm concerned about is > Zope/Plone). This is a production box with moderate traffic, and it > would be a problem if there was extensive downtime. > > Is it worth upgrading? If so, what's the best way to do so -- CVSup, or > some other way? Are there any major caveats if I do choose to upgrade > (or choose to stay with the existing OS)? On general grounds it is well worth running 6.2 over 5.x - depending on your workload you should see performance improvements, and support for 6.2 is much better than for the legacy 5.x branch. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 21:10:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E2316A506 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDCC13C457 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2FL9vhq072192; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:09:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2FL9vLw072191; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:09:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:09:57 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: alex@schnarff.com Message-ID: <20070315210957.GF71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070315164706.4fy8vlmhw00kk4s8@mail.schnarff.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070315164706.4fy8vlmhw00kk4s8@mail.schnarff.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should I Upgrade 5.4 -> 6.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:10:23 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 04:47:06PM -0400, alex@schnarff.com wrote: > First off, I want to thank the people who responded to my thread > "Stability Issues on a 5.4-RELEASE box" a couple of weeks ago; after > disabling hyperthreading, getting a clean run of Memtest back, and > doing some serious fsck'ing of the disks, the box appears to now be > completely stable. I'm still not sure which of the above fixed the > problem...but I'll take a stable system at this point. :-) > > That said, in that thread I had asked about the advisability of > upgrading to 6.2, and it was intelligently pointed out that doing so in > pursuit of stability was a bad idea. Now that the box is stable, > though, I'm back to the same question: should I make the upgrade, and > if so, how should I do it? > > My primary driver for doing so would be to keep current enough that I'm > still getting security and other patches on a regular basis, and that I > can upgrade my applications from ports as necessary. If this is not an > issue, then my only remaining concern would be that it's usually easier > to get support on lists like this if you're running a modern version of > the OS (that's certainly the case with the OpenBSD folks). > > My primary concern with upgrading is that the box is in Portland, OR, > and I'm in Arlington, VA...and while the ISP is friendly, I doubt that > I could count on them for major system recovery if I botch something > during the upgrade. My other worry is that I don't want to break > existing apps if possible (the main one I'm concerned about is > Zope/Plone). This is a production box with moderate traffic, and it > would be a problem if there was extensive downtime. > > Is it worth upgrading? If so, what's the best way to do so -- CVSup, or > some other way? Are there any major caveats if I do choose to upgrade > (or choose to stay with the existing OS)? You should if you can reasonably do it, for the reasons you give plus improvements in performance and in some utilities. My sentiment is usually to do a clean install over major version numbers. It tends to leave less dross laying around. but I do not have to worry about down times very much, a couple of hours at night is not terribly noticable in my stuff. It does require more time down to do a clean from scratch install. But, I think you can get away with a cvsup upgrade from 5.4 to 6.2. Then your downtime is just the reboot and stuff at single user (mergemaster), plus probably some for upgrading various ports. ////jerry > > Thanks, > Alex Kirk > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 21:11:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666A916A401 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from compara@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E322113C48C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from compara@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so492991ugh for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:11:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bOmLxzdI16Teo4z4ENFB3Lz75Nuq2HGLXIiXCqCojqd69VOT49wPp0HCyyXB4O12E74JQgGDu6NiPqJ2yfcLlU17rjQKVZ7W7B5ZEhkNoMKLipsRccxUa92wGukrtRj57EaTauGruLaskvR9f7zqFtdsHQh2tjEOjui+yoRkXyg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=N8Gaa5hbKd9KAG9MJsmc4DZbQedpLSkFrySLdkqDL7wzoQW2aPdWvRSUN6Gu/M4jr+rBsfpow8CWpq3Atbwvh1N5/Up7lffMBE3K5VptlY92+RUO5Vya7R2lfx/WQnZB2EY4DRig/8Pyeq3JOVRLwpHaz1s8WTe/Oyy6379Qo8M= Received: by 10.67.22.2 with SMTP id z2mr3377163ugi.1173993068907; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.94.12 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <40405920703151411h688b55e0vf83dbf8338c0386b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:11:08 -0400 From: "Sung Park" To: "Kevin Downey" In-Reply-To: <1d3ed48c0703131606y58052fffw24a8f98e07eb4161@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <40405920703131535p5a2a24fan39eb3d8c7cdce35a@mail.gmail.com> <1d3ed48c0703131606y58052fffw24a8f98e07eb4161@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless Bridge in FreeBSD 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:11:10 -0000 How about EoIP tunnel to establish wireless bridge? Is it possible? How about other tunnels? Do you have any suggestion to make it possible in FreeBSD? Thank you On 3/13/07, Kevin Downey wrote: > > On 3/13/07, Sung Park wrote: > > I'm having trouble to bridge two wireless card which is Atheros AR5213A > in > > FreeBSD 6.1. I try to make transparent bridge in these two wireless > card. > > > > I compiled BRIDGE in kernel and I put > > > > net.link.ether.bridge=1 > > net.link.ether.bridge_cfg=*ath0*,*ath1* > > net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1 > > > > in sysctl.conf. > > > > Following diagram is what I did it. > > > > (192.168.0.1)Ath0----Ath0,Ath1(192.168.0.2)----Ath0(192.168.0.100) > > > > Left unit is wireless router. Middle unit is transparent bridge. Right > unit > > is client. I set up like this. Ath0 of left unit is AP. Ath0 of middle > > unit is Station. Ath1 of middle unit is AP. Ath0 of right unit is > Station. > > I can ping from 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.2 but I can't ping from > > 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.1. > > > > I tested wired LAN bridge with same configuration. It works well. > > > > Anyone has idea about this or has same problem. Please, help me. Any > kind of > > information will save me. > > My understanding is that because of how the 802.11 is designed, this > sort of setup is not possible using ethernet bridging code(if_bridge > and friends) if you are using infrastructure mode and a-hoc mode is > kind of slow. WDS may be waht you are looking for but I don't know if > FreeBSD supports it yet.. > > -- > The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has > occurred. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 21:16:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9448116A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:16:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E7313C457 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:16:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614171A4D97; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 93425514EE; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:16:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:16:25 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20070315211624.GA89114@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070315164706.4fy8vlmhw00kk4s8@mail.schnarff.com> <20070315210957.GF71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070315210957.GF71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: alex@schnarff.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should I Upgrade 5.4 -> 6.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:16:26 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 05:09:57PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 04:47:06PM -0400, alex@schnarff.com wrote: > > > First off, I want to thank the people who responded to my thread > > "Stability Issues on a 5.4-RELEASE box" a couple of weeks ago; after > > disabling hyperthreading, getting a clean run of Memtest back, and > > doing some serious fsck'ing of the disks, the box appears to now be > > completely stable. I'm still not sure which of the above fixed the > > problem...but I'll take a stable system at this point. :-) > > > > That said, in that thread I had asked about the advisability of > > upgrading to 6.2, and it was intelligently pointed out that doing so in > > pursuit of stability was a bad idea. Now that the box is stable, > > though, I'm back to the same question: should I make the upgrade, and > > if so, how should I do it? > > > > My primary driver for doing so would be to keep current enough that I'm > > still getting security and other patches on a regular basis, and that I > > can upgrade my applications from ports as necessary. If this is not an > > issue, then my only remaining concern would be that it's usually easier > > to get support on lists like this if you're running a modern version of > > the OS (that's certainly the case with the OpenBSD folks). > > > > My primary concern with upgrading is that the box is in Portland, OR, > > and I'm in Arlington, VA...and while the ISP is friendly, I doubt that > > I could count on them for major system recovery if I botch something > > during the upgrade. My other worry is that I don't want to break > > existing apps if possible (the main one I'm concerned about is > > Zope/Plone). This is a production box with moderate traffic, and it > > would be a problem if there was extensive downtime. > > > > Is it worth upgrading? If so, what's the best way to do so -- CVSup, or > > some other way? Are there any major caveats if I do choose to upgrade > > (or choose to stay with the existing OS)? > > You should if you can reasonably do it, for the reasons you give plus > improvements in performance and in some utilities. > > My sentiment is usually to do a clean install over major version numbers. > It tends to leave less dross laying around. but I do not have to worry > about down times very much, a couple of hours at night is not terribly > noticable in my stuff. It does require more time down to do a clean > from scratch install. But, I think you can get away with a cvsup upgrade > from 5.4 to 6.2. Then your downtime is just the reboot and stuff at single > user (mergemaster), plus probably some for upgrading various ports. Yes, a source upgrade from 5.x to 6.x (followed by portupgrade -fa) isn't too bad. As with any upgrade you do need a recovery strategy though. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 21:22:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D910816A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FC613C46A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so496837ugh for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:22:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PMGlK07fuWw6+WeiSZf+Tabl3IP7r3xCpH36Q14tlmOI5YJDcmbmFfeJp1FMsbvBvk897HoQSH4SG+5rO9G9nHi2wQfsKSDWH/Okt9yxaiDmv+mS3Y3Q0zMpxqPjsV3V4vcXvCBgI9yRL5KiWRzJWdGgRNb5r5xprLn5DQ1iKgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UdUKmy2tp1SDR9F+zXPrCecSE+3EkmKWmwKDb3IAWnjGGM6/p8C1xijzNVrOiTbSKOPYvpfUm1KxckW+iumBud1HD922EEbMSGLnmNsL9T/3EYZiZZV4+VaAuK/eSy6VqxhMzz9wdlwUFAJkXxDzB9yVbZr4DUgAt+G2HVdwxkw= Received: by 10.67.99.1 with SMTP id b1mr3398152ugm.1173993729280; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [213.47.1.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j2sm1987767ugf.2007.03.15.14.22.07; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45F9B90F.7040207@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:22:23 +0100 From: Mike User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <40405920703131535p5a2a24fan39eb3d8c7cdce35a@mail.gmail.com> <1d3ed48c0703131606y58052fffw24a8f98e07eb4161@mail.gmail.com> <40405920703151411h688b55e0vf83dbf8338c0386b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <40405920703151411h688b55e0vf83dbf8338c0386b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Wireless Bridge in FreeBSD 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:22:14 -0000 Sung Park wrote: > How about EoIP tunnel to establish wireless bridge? Is it possible? How > about other tunnels? Do you have any suggestion to make it possible in > FreeBSD? This site is 2,5 years old, but maybe it is helpful: http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/ai3/reports/eop/ Abstract: "This document explains the configurations and procedures to enable Ethernet over IP tunneling on FreeBSD. I succesfully performed the test on a FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE. I make no claim that it will work on other releases. I also tested it on FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 21:37:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F6016A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AB0713C46E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 80073 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2007 21:37:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=vvDCkkxAj4uhk5ruYgNkcBOzrmdunCe+GoU8ya7fh7GS38TKdpUweq4B1qg1vVLsBsPTbnSHY5A7I6pogQBDOT4/fqaKl4Kk/W7GiA2XVc31xIhpiUyIp07rUaDTo3IJA4CAAISW6siCKRDJeYW5sVqdkt2E353Gz1v19ID1wco= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@74.104.205.212 with login) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2007 21:37:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: QlHlKikVM1lW1fK4pZygYPJjBuwNcscJHtQcGghock.Fb3i2MQM3i084wMymOdrd2w-- From: "Tamouh H." To: , Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:37:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20070315164706.4fy8vlmhw00kk4s8@mail.schnarff.com> Thread-Index: AcdnQ13ysX7ePJkpSEykFJP67xy+NQABiFbg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20070315213710.9AB0713C46E@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: RE: Should I Upgrade 5.4 -> 6.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:37:11 -0000 =20 >=20 > First off, I want to thank the people who responded to my=20 > thread "Stability Issues on a 5.4-RELEASE box" a couple of=20 > weeks ago; after disabling hyperthreading, getting a clean=20 > run of Memtest back, and doing some serious fsck'ing of the=20 > disks, the box appears to now be completely stable. I'm still=20 > not sure which of the above fixed the problem...but I'll take=20 > a stable system at this point. :-) >=20 > That said, in that thread I had asked about the advisability=20 > of upgrading to 6.2, and it was intelligently pointed out=20 > that doing so in pursuit of stability was a bad idea. Now=20 > that the box is stable, though, I'm back to the same=20 > question: should I make the upgrade, and if so, how should I do it? >=20 > My primary driver for doing so would be to keep current=20 > enough that I'm still getting security and other patches on a=20 > regular basis, and that I can upgrade my applications from=20 > ports as necessary. If this is not an issue, then my only=20 > remaining concern would be that it's usually easier to get=20 > support on lists like this if you're running a modern version=20 > of the OS (that's certainly the case with the OpenBSD folks). >=20 > My primary concern with upgrading is that the box is in=20 > Portland, OR, and I'm in Arlington, VA...and while the ISP is=20 > friendly, I doubt that I could count on them for major system=20 > recovery if I botch something during the upgrade. My other=20 > worry is that I don't want to break existing apps if possible=20 > (the main one I'm concerned about is Zope/Plone). This is a=20 > production box with moderate traffic, and it would be a=20 > problem if there was extensive downtime. >=20 > Is it worth upgrading? If so, what's the best way to do so --=20 > CVSup, or some other way? Are there any major caveats if I do=20 > choose to upgrade (or choose to stay with the existing OS)? >=20 > Thanks, > Alex Kirk >=20 If it is not broken, don't try to fix it! We had to upgrade from 5.4 to = 6.1 because the performance was not good, crashing issues...etc. I advise my clients not to upgrade unless they have a performance or = stability issue they are looking to resolve. However, should you decide to upgrade; as everyone had said: backup! = backup! backup! Also, find a local service company in the city to call upon should the = upgrade goes bad. We've upgraded many FBSD 5.4 to 6.1 with no problems = and have always been able to SSH back to the box. Tamouh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 21:43:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEB816A402; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigc@crodrigues.org) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [63.240.77.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AF413C44B; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigc@crodrigues.org) Received: from c-66-31-35-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (c-71-192-57-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[71.192.57.29](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20070315213306012008qe54e>; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:33:10 +0000 Received: from dibbler.crodrigues.org (localhost.crodrigues.org [127.0.0.1]) by c-66-31-35-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FLVUcr011192; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:32:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rodrigc@c-71-192-57-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Received: (from rodrigc@localhost) by dibbler.crodrigues.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2FLVT76011191; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:31:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rodrigc) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:30:45 -0400 From: Craig Rodrigues To: Fluffles Message-ID: <20070315213045.GA11147@crodrigues.org> References: <20070120073117.GB60202@x12.dk> <200703061246.09687.antik@bsd.ee> <45ED5850.6050506@nipsi.de> <200703061420.36980.antik@bsd.ee> <20070307135017.GC2864@garage.freebsd.pl> <45F2EEBD.6070007@barryp.org> <86ps7evniu.fsf@dwp.des.no> <45F91CF0.6010506@fluffles.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F91CF0.6010506@fluffles.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Barry Pederson Subject: Re: boot2 can't boot from USB? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:43:13 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:16:16AM +0100, Fluffles wrote: > If so, i may have found some bugs / problems with boot2. Long ago i > tried to make a bootable USB pendrive with FreeBSD 6.1 on it. It failed > to boot with the message "invalid slice" and i got a prompt like: I have worked a lot with getting FreeBSD to boot off of USB devices, and have gotten it to work. Specifically, I have worked with USB pen drives, and USB CD-ROM drives. It *is* possible, but what I have found is the following: - on some motherboards, you need to explicitly configure the BIOS to boot off of a USB device (either a disk, a CD-ROM, or a "Zip drive") - booting off of USB-CDROM devices seems to be much more reliable than booting off of USB pen drives - if you have an "older" motherboard BIOS, say from about 3-4 years ago, booting off of USB devices is more unreliable, than a "newer" motherboard BIOS - if I have 5 different models of USB pen drives, each model may behave differently, and may or may not boot. Same for USB CD-ROM drives, but I've found CD-ROM drives to be more reliable than pen drives. So to summarize: - booting off of USB devices seems to be sensitive to your motherboard BIOS, and the firmware written into your USB device. - booting off of USB CD-ROM drives seems to be more reliable than booting off of USB pen drives There is no logic to this, I've just found this out from trial and error, and banging my head a lot. -- Craig Rodrigues rodrigc@crodrigues.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 21:44:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FD416A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uzawhtetaung@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D5A13C45A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uzawhtetaung@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so503018ugh for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:44:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=VX7qdTYdjCWRKtRb0bxVlHW8H0f4jT3U8b1ocA6YMSw9kXCrKiNXa5LnyhHhNcq5aG5UwIvpSvcSFpY1ovNnTxdYYaU7hhKmLov/qWDYIjqGNHcgu2x5Ifs1V14uA4fZ57NpR21246uijbaqkIQYboccmNsSHub4+tdaF6i6Da0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qLLEFlQsDXoH0A0sduU9CMmNOsXTOjGrlsfT60MUum9csmGJ3Lkf/6gEGQEnaOaaDCGmMQENAODZ0jZ546OtKeeIfHeVpRPuNiqbM6B3enMBIb2gYwA76OeFHz4Jo0lmdarILNcXQOBYb+ZcE1EP+DtPgvBRUuVk0yYipNO/TFQ= Received: by 10.115.23.12 with SMTP id a12mr463678waj.1173995083073; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.166.8 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7f391ef40703151444n613b13e9i48e141d5c734cef7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:44:43 -1200 From: "neo neo" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:44:51 -0000 hi i want to do NAT with my FreeBSD . How can i do that ? thankz for reply. How to configure Gateway ? How to configure DNS ? How to configure NAT ? thankz everybody.. i really thankz for your reply. ZAW HTET AUNG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 21:54:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AD116A403 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5192713C455 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay6.apple.com (a17-128-113-36.apple.com [17.128.113.36]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2FLsMcu000427; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay6.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay6.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 083BF10BE0; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:54:22 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807124-9ac1bbb0000007df-eb-45f9c08d7d86 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay6.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id EABC210C32; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:54:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703151444n613b13e9i48e141d5c734cef7@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f391ef40703151444n613b13e9i48e141d5c734cef7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <44E6E7B9-6BA2-4693-80AA-B2DC3074696B@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:54:21 -0700 To: neo neo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:54:22 -0000 On Mar 15, 2007, at 2:44 PM, neo neo wrote: > i want to do NAT with my FreeBSD. How can i do that ? thankz for > reply. > > How to configure Gateway ? > How to configure DNS ? > How to configure NAT ? There's a friendly manual available for you to read: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced- networking.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network- natd.html -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 22:16:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822C416A406 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uzawhtetaung@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CEA13C457 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uzawhtetaung@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 36so389051wra for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:16:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=J5eLYJ6a+DNorVWNgQvyJw34yxbhEATyyXOYLM9/aRC8X0wM4SRxff6Jarg8dfhx9gfsG9v/P3yM2bkCq+NujvlyjemnH3jL3cvy4XRQJ6cVch6D2Z5/40QdZBpjjcSJgcVnMroKNmP6FownKZu/XvE0c92XaGVm3hVAaA+P4nk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=a8xa4AiOMmr19PGFEvEjfvt6jq0vj/FHAMuNBBe3RdmLekczilbdw3i4TFU6rGyLGbT8xXosUBPZILU2CqfGWufjHAKCGkwBkirvcDhzIhtwm9KKRxIwMYdfB2wg3OCggupD4LbHl2UMkSdoWDaWt3kzz/C/QxsjoGfx/76uMqA= Received: by 10.114.200.2 with SMTP id x2mr462779waf.1173997006646; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.166.8 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7f391ef40703151516pc99d198v66bc2fcca81fc319@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:16:46 -1200 From: "neo neo" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: DNS configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:16:49 -0000 hi For NAT ; i already configure internal and external ip . And also finished gateway. but i don't know how to configure DNS . plz .. ? by the way , " route add default xx.xx.xx.xx " is setting gateway .. is it right ? very thankz... i am very happy for your support.. ZAW HTET AUNG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 22:32:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41EE16A402 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from maru.leela.ws (209-193-28-35-cdsl-rb1.jnu.acsalaska.net [209.193.28.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5C913C45D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.0.249] ([158.145.111.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by maru.leela.ws (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2FM1Rfv083761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:01:29 GMT (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Message-ID: <45F9C235.3000006@mac.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:01:25 -0800 From: "Peter A. Giessel" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10) Gecko/20070221 Thunderbird/1.5.0.10 Mnenhy/0.7.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: neo neo References: <7f391ef40703151444n613b13e9i48e141d5c734cef7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703151444n613b13e9i48e141d5c734cef7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:32:08 -0000 You might want to read the handbook, a lot of your questions are answered there. On 2007/03/15 13:44, neo neo seems to have typed: > hi > > i want to do NAT with my FreeBSD . How can i do that ? thankz for reply. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-natd.html > How to configure Gateway ? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-routing.html > How to configure DNS ? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-dns.html > How to configure NAT ? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-natd.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 22:45:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8DB16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3139A13C468 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from shire (shire.nagual.nl [192.168.11.31]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id l2FMR5Uo017825 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:27:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:27:05 +0100 From: Dick Hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070315232705.00003058@shire> In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703151516pc99d198v66bc2fcca81fc319@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f391ef40703151516pc99d198v66bc2fcca81fc319@mail.gmail.com> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.1cvs10-csw (GTK+ 2.10.1; i386pc-solaris10u3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: DNS configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:45:02 -0000 On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:16:46 -1200 "neo neo" wrote: > but i don't know how to configure DNS . plz .. ? Read the same handbook as adviced earlier. And for DNS the O'Reilly book is great. DNS is no toy. It should be handled with great care. The internet depends on it. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ http://nagual.nl/ | Solaris 10 11/06 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 22:46:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415B916A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:46:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redchin@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A97813C44C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redchin@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so30925nfc for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:46:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KcWMJlqRwV++5kUy+ePbe7IPqDd5XZj0yF1B+V+OQrjtN8EfzRvu0s1QR5XkoOvhZkqx50oWN/PAAMsWp4IJ61aYX0+ze9Kg+D0xyIqo+d5xIXvtfncDH1zalmm7kDrh8u/p+MEX0e43+Iw1mnbsFaZ2aYwmI23wJG0wmsUJE8w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L4b3bUcfywwNAQ5yQav/lLLgMXZKEYw0Mg4Xiz7bzgCDj2QKG2WwR4VmOmT6tfmJSGp/DVtHYvp2wpak3dCdTZ1HQne/pXYY5LHwYGqz6boD6Z7qoK2aKGFBK0JxTbWuuAFWuS4jaYns0QQSSY3SBhPfpLGFpK8cxAH13NTzGE8= Received: by 10.82.163.13 with SMTP id l13mr1721753bue.1173998810126; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.119.10 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1d3ed48c0703151546h52d98e42kd28547bb52168ca8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:46:50 -0700 From: "Kevin Downey" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <40405920703151411h688b55e0vf83dbf8338c0386b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <40405920703131535p5a2a24fan39eb3d8c7cdce35a@mail.gmail.com> <1d3ed48c0703131606y58052fffw24a8f98e07eb4161@mail.gmail.com> <40405920703151411h688b55e0vf83dbf8338c0386b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Wireless Bridge in FreeBSD 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:46:53 -0000 On 3/15/07, Sung Park wrote: > How about EoIP tunnel to establish wireless bridge? Is it possible? How > about other tunnels? Do you have any suggestion to make it possible in > FreeBSD? > > Thank you > > On 3/13/07, Kevin Downey wrote: > > > > On 3/13/07, Sung Park wrote: > > > I'm having trouble to bridge two wireless card which is Atheros AR5213A > in > > > FreeBSD 6.1. I try to make transparent bridge in these two wireless > card. > > > > > > I compiled BRIDGE in kernel and I put > > > > > > net.link.ether.bridge=1 > > > net.link.ether.bridge_cfg=*ath0*,*ath1* > > > net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1 > > > > > > in sysctl.conf. > > > > > > Following diagram is what I did it. > > > > > > (192.168.0.1)Ath0----Ath0,Ath1( 192.168.0.2)----Ath0(192.168.0.100) > > > > > > Left unit is wireless router. Middle unit is transparent bridge. Right > unit > > > is client. I set up like this. Ath0 of left unit is AP. Ath0 of middle > > > unit is Station. Ath1 of middle unit is AP. Ath0 of right unit is > Station. > > > I can ping from 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.2 but I can't ping from > > > 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.1. > > > > > > I tested wired LAN bridge with same configuration. It works well. > > > > > > Anyone has idea about this or has same problem. Please, help me. Any > kind of > > > information will save me. > > > > My understanding is that because of how the 802.11 is designed, this > > sort of setup is not possible using ethernet bridging code(if_bridge > > and friends) if you are using infrastructure mode and a-hoc mode is > > kind of slow. WDS may be waht you are looking for but I don't know if > > FreeBSD supports it yet.. > > I would read the manpage for the gif interface, it may be what you are looking for -- The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 22:46:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FAA16A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.com) Received: from mail.wcborstel.com (wcborstel.xs4all.nl [82.93.93.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9E913C455 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.com) Received: from mail.wcborstel.com (mail [10.0.0.2]) by mail.wcborstel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4DB434294; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:23:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.wcborstel.com (Postfix, from userid 58) id 33B5443427C; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:23:31 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.wcborstel.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Report: * -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.3 MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR URI: Includes a link to a likely spammer email Received: from [192.168.1.6] (unknown [192.168.1.6]) by mail.wcborstel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FE2434254; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:23:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45F9C6ED.2010306@wcborstel.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:21:33 +0100 From: Jorn Argelo User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: youshi10@u.washington.edu References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:46:58 -0000 youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Danny Pansters wrote: > >> On Thursday 15 March 2007 02:16, Gary Kline wrote: >>> Two quick one for kernel and/or compiler wizards: first, is >>> a 400Mz processor considered a 586 (for my KERNELCONF file)? >> >> Think its 686 (but really, leaving 486 and 586 in isn't going to slow >> down >> booting or anything!) I always say: Use GENERIC unless you have a >> good reason >> not to. >> >>> Second, is it safe to do a buildworld with -O3? If there are >> >> No. It's not supported if things break. >> >>> stability concerns, I'll go with the default when I rebuild my >>> 6.2 systems. >> >> The defaults should be fine. Also, like I said consider just using >> GENERIC and >> load the odd kmod if needed. Generally it's less headache and equal >> performance. >> >>> thanks in advance, >>> >>> gary >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dan > > Dan, > I know that this has been discussed a few times before, but IMO > running a slightly stripped down kernel (i.e. custom, not GENERIC) > actually proves to be helpful in increasing boot times (if options > were added statically) and compile times if [(# of options added) < (# > of options in GENERIC)]. I can confirm this too. I noticed on both desktop and servers the boot time can be decreased by stripping the kernel configuration of stuff you don't need. I don't have any hard facts to prove this but this is what my personal experience is. Jorn > > I like being able to compile my kernel on my P4 in less than 10 > minutes anyhow with less options :). The only thing that was brought > up earlier (sometime later last year in a thread--I think either Oct > or Nov) is that removing options removes flexibility as well. But > that's a tradeoff you have to make. > > -Garrett > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 22:54:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E4916A406 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:54:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uzawhtetaung@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CF213C44C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uzawhtetaung@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so518868ugh for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:53:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=PcdG2hi3d2NTtHUzjW5NCf5nnt1QH25kJQSEhTzqYywLRy3DoVu3S7Lpq/aS9X+GFi+fjJ0l3MnySOD4LSk875W4W4sLJofaZsaNQoU/MeDeKSExh4Oc7ZZlxjjqblMvizV+re36gwutm7M4tQuVVhqaBeu+83uxivdxEDWVn3k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=tpqTmmopp+hCdwCt09y+UeC8E6k/39G4twTMsU8z2v2fVy4EWS8sZUt18pfmadEjfPYaVD+aGzKTJiHGDS6uymmKPKwpZ7BRMS/bH3Edo18O5ncuP5Pi8hzhCyRh9XCk0sg6DuLVV82eUFKLigxJDHvjjizoppbgyEKIFJ/JCkY= Received: by 10.114.88.1 with SMTP id l1mr468717wab.1173999234081; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.166.8 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7f391ef40703151553o7bcade72qa8bc8491dac7c5f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:53:54 -1200 From: "neo neo" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: DNS configuration at FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:54:06 -0000 could u please tell me detail how to configure DNS ip ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 23:04:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C17416A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from mail.applied-epistemics.com (mail.applied-epistemics.com [65.39.221.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D0213C44C for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from [192.168.1.134] (c-75-72-199-210.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.72.199.210]) by mail.applied-epistemics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5592C63318F; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:04:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:04:45 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: Nino Ivanov , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:04:38 -0000 On Thursday 15 March 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:43:32PM +0100, Nino Ivanov wrote: > > Dear Chistian, Dear Kris, > > > > I also think the RAM will not be the issue, as it is a text-only > > install, and indeed, I am not planning to "get fancy". I > > completely don't need X. Midnight Commander is perfectly fine as > > a working environment. 4.11 seemed OK. > > > > But I am having a different problem right now, which I am still > > researching: It does not recognize the device from where to mount > > root correctly. I mean the following: When I put FreeBSD into the > > Compaq for installation, the harddrive is ad4 or ad8. But in the > > system where I want to run it, the HP Omnibook, it is ad0. > > > > Now, when I start it back in the HP Omnibook, it says that swap > > is not configured correctly on ad8s-something. Which is true, it > > should look for it on ad0... I have only once been able till now > > to mount root. (And this is my basis for assuming that even 4.11 > > CAN potentially run.) I said as command ufs:/dev/ad0 when it > > asked me where to mount root from. This worked, however, e.g. > > ufs:/dev/ad0s1 did not work. I am thinking that I might have made > > a mistake, and should have said ad0s1a. > > > > Yet, the principal new problem persists: FreeBSD does not realize > > that it should now look at ad0 instead of ad4 or ad8. (However, > > in the booting process, it correctly "sees" ad0 as having 325 MB > > etc.) Is there a way to solve this? > > Probably the /etc/fstab is wrong and refers to the ad4 or ad8 > devices. The root should indeed typically be ufs:/dev/ad0s1a. > > Kris I'm a tad confused, as I thought we were talking about FBSD 2.x, which would've called your drive wd0, not ad0. But Kris is correct in that your fstab is wrong...your /boot/loader.conf probably has the wrong root device as well. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 23:13:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B7316A400 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (7-137-58-66.gci.net [66.58.137.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E3F13C468 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFD67DDC; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:13:16 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: FreeBSD Port Maintainer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:12:49 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <7f391ef40703151553o7bcade72qa8bc8491dac7c5f2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703151553o7bcade72qa8bc8491dac7c5f2@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1694731.rWu3GTxVV8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200703151513.08579.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: neo neo Subject: Re: DNS configuration at FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beech@alaskaparadise.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:13:49 -0000 --nextPart1694731.rWu3GTxVV8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 15 March 2007 14:53, neo neo said: > could u please tell me detail how to configure DNS ip ? You really need to read the handbook. Most of your questions will be=20 answered there. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Bind and DNS questions here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-dns.html And here: http://www.isc.org/sw/bind/ Also google is your friend. Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - beech@alaskaparadise.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart1694731.rWu3GTxVV8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBF+dL4p5D0B1NlT4URAmaIAJ9hbyUSTl+qBJZObLZzNcTmNCL85gCeLpd5 P9ElDBgrev9FVECQ65TDYWE= =QhtN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1694731.rWu3GTxVV8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 00:04:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA42616A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A496013C489 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403B91F87F0; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:04:56 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: JvMgqDQnY0X/Fi3v1QwMHLdfvip5+C/rNGe0dJvtT9Sh 1174003495 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8891EAFF; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:04:54 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <45F9C6ED.2010306@wcborstel.com> References: <45F9C6ED.2010306@wcborstel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <707D1CE0-F7E3-4D29-A755-3AB7495FB66C@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:04:51 -0500 To: Jorn Argelo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: youshi10@u.washington.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:04:57 -0000 On Mar 15, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Jorn Argelo wrote: > youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: >> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Danny Pansters wrote: >> I know that this has been discussed a few times before, but >> IMO running a slightly stripped down kernel (i.e. custom, not >> GENERIC) actually proves to be helpful in increasing boot times >> (if options were added statically) and compile times if [(# of >> options added) < (# of options in GENERIC)]. > I can confirm this too. I noticed on both desktop and servers the > boot time can be decreased by stripping the kernel configuration of > stuff you don't need. I don't have any hard facts to prove this but > this is what my personal experience is. me, too. -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 00:21:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A9216A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deniss.lee@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867B513C469 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deniss.lee@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so385777wxc for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:21:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; b=Ne+BQtBQpdvobD6w1lPCIOh7MRWhGRgsyUZ8aXPbzkWNnztCoydAroK0mlbl/KJu5qkf5JpsbwwjTVOkIEbP2H/gRavi9E6jmMZi6ZZ/cXuN+ShiH6smWssAFFCGGF6sT4skViOpjYpqH/R4Rf8lBB/lTpOTEF76im4hbqgP0Aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; b=llh7FYY1KsbZbFYTgEd1jtAOeTpfg0uI9KWFRc1gxZEwUVrIToyBU4rfiH86UK7G5Pa/1HiRHGmAjU83YIrDXAeTifG5EAuikHtMx7gBuBogt1eROl4oGInYwPPH/yCX94g4wTKU783D5XAiK+Z82s2eEVeQNTLZcOceGb7lgVs= Received: by 10.90.120.6 with SMTP id s6mr1245471agc.1174002939400; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.70.14 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <938b57eb0703151655s7e14a4c1p7443405e6cb56f26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:55:39 +0200 From: "Deniss Lee" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Strange freeze on -STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:21:08 -0000 Nothing really has changed to my box (no new software, configuration issues). I just like rebuilding world/kernel to the latest -STABLE at least once in week. And about two weeks ago I started getting strange freezes. Since then I've tried doing anything to get away from those stupid freezes, but nothing helps. On random time periods my box freezes, but not like the usual way when I can't do anything. It drops all network connections (this box is also router), so I can't connect with SSH anymore or use Internet through it. It mystical freezes everything else - if I had opened some xterms (x11 also on this box) then can write some command (for example "ls") - it may or may not be executed, but what's strange - after execution it doesn't return to shell, it even doesn't react on ^C, ^Z or anything at all. Some applications I can close, some I cant and they just ignore my attempts. Sometimes I can even ctrl+alt+backspace (it gets executed after some while), sometimes I can't. Same with alt+ctrl+f1-f9 - it may work, it may not work. Only thing I can do is press "power button", but then (again - sometimes) I get: "acpi: suspend request ignored (not ready yet)". Then I just press it for 5 seconds and it powers off. After reboot fsck & stuff. It's just driving my crazy. But what's interesting - music keeps playing (line-in). Both pf (firewall/routing) and sound card is loaded as modules, music keeps playing, but network is unresponsive. And this box usually freezes when I'm asleep or when I'm not physically using it (ssh only). I'm really desperate. I've tried reinstalling from scratch, rebuilding world, using even GENERIC, but nothing helps. I'm using lastest FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE (recompiled even yesterday, but got crash again). Box is AMD Sempron. Please - really - any suggestions? I've run FreeBSD for years but I don't know what to do now with this situation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 01:01:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B645416A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (core6.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5543113C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on core6.multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-24.7 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from vader ([212.135.219.179]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) (MDaemon PRO v9.5.4) with ESMTP id md50003616629.msg; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:50:30 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c76765$1bdc9ff0$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Deniss Lee" , References: <938b57eb0703151655s7e14a4c1p7443405e6cb56f26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:50:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.179 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Envelope-From: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:50:30 +0000 X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:50:31 +0000 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange freeze on -STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:01:06 -0000 If its always when the box is quiet / no one using it, is it something to do with power saving settings? Steve Deniss Lee wrote: > But what's interesting - music keeps playing (line-in). Both pf > (firewall/routing) and sound card > is loaded as modules, music keeps playing, but network is > unresponsive. And this box usually > freezes when I'm asleep or when I'm not physically using it (ssh > only). ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 01:04:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2531E16A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from pd2mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E1213C43E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from pd5mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.233]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JEZ006A71NQX770@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:04:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml10so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.80]) by pd5mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JEZ00E0S1NQM0D0@pd5mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:04:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from proven. ([24.85.241.34]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JEZ008JW1NPGO80@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:04:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from proven. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proven. (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2G14a6p055563 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:04:36 -0700 (PDT envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by proven. (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2G14atr055562 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:04:36 -0700 (PDT envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:04:35 -0700 From: Norbert Papke In-reply-to: <80f4f2b20703151037q270e46b7x9c528908b8634cc4@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200703151804.35879.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> Organization: Archaeological Filing MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20703151037q270e46b7x9c528908b8634cc4@mail.gmail.com> X-Authentication-warning: proven.: npapke set sender to fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca using -f User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Subject: Re: Verifying my 3D drivers set up properly for my nVidia based graphics card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:04:38 -0000 On Thursday 15 March 2007 10:37, Jim Stapleton wrote: > Also a couple of OpenGL applications are running slower > than one would expect given my card (especially in the screen savers > area, where the same apps would run /too fast/ with my old Ti4200. > These in conjunction lead me to suspect my graphics setup. > /etc/X11/xorg.conf: [...] > Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "Enable" > EndSection Even though the nvidia drivers claim to support OpenGL with the composite extension enabled, my experience has been that it leads to performance similar to what you are describing. Try disabling composite. Cheers, -- Norbert. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 01:12:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1595D16A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rychoo@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE98413C44C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rychoo@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/smtpout01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id l2G0cdqr028674 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (0x573cc3d8.odnxx9.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [87.60.195.216]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id l2G0cZ3K014242 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9EB10DD6-535A-4ECD-A48D-9EFED0F9CB85@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: "mgr Ryszard W. Czekaj" Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:38:35 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: Subject: Have you mistake on *Legal Notices* subpages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:12:39 -0000 Hi! Walking around yours copyright pages I find that you don't have returning link on *Trademark Legend*? Is it your standard? RYCHoo 8-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 01:16:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D058116A40E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chessg@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A9613C48A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chessg@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so572192muf for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:16:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BxolhZ7ENaUWrhNSYQrAjO+NfBRqmkAF/bZFbcIqkPeM32hgHkqvkL1WRjmHsSU5FKTrbxPeS949GGnsrmzQDeGNPSbBMvl2rz3fPds1EhkK7FGKiz+RR3BLTM89n8emd8PO3fr0B+xLAvIBm3GIArCprffHRf3wN5TCogMbd2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=KNCXFkN/vIwIsd8RORf3eySMr1d7xkKSBui9yEmBVkpBk8bOMUxaEKeYCt921DZI68tDrAUBz3Ao6UHmW2ID8M5GFIlG4DNWeUP/HbmkXpUNI2UzAPW/XsYzs2G1YBZjOK1F2Anefmai5igOSuZPN/FchvsO/5dcYjOC/P82P3o= Received: by 10.82.146.14 with SMTP id t14mr1946151bud.1174006261927; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.145.14 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <13f052980703151751m5e89fb8dhc57fd594608e4b3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:51:01 -0400 From: "Chess Griffin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Xfce 4.4 and Thunar automounting of USB stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:16:48 -0000 Hello! My first post to the list. :) I have FreeBSD 6.2 installed and running wonderfully. I have built Xfce 4.4from ports and it too, is working very well, but I have one problem -- the new Thunar file manager does not auto-mount USB sticks. I know there is the traditional way of allowing users to mount usb per the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/usb-disks.html and that actually works fine for me. However, Thunar (the new Xfce file manager) has the capability to automount devices and it's not working. I have installed Hal, Dbus, and polkit and have those 3 things enabled in my /etc/rc.conf. I also installed thunar and the thunar-volman plugin. However, when I go to the "Advanced" tab in the File Manager settings manager in order to activate the auto-mounting, it states "Build thunar-vfs with HAL support to use the volume management support in Thunar." When I built Thunar I did enable Hal support, and I can't find anything in ports or packages about thunar-vfs. partial output of /etc/rc.conf: dbus_enable="YES" polkitd_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" devfs_system_ruleset="localrules" in /etc/sysctl.conf I put: vfs.usermount=1 and in /etc/devfs.rules I have: [localrules=1] add path 'da*' mode 0660 group operator I can mount a usb stick as my normal user without issues. It's just the automount feature in Thunar that is not working. If anyone has a fix or other suggestions I would be most appreciative. Thanks, Chess Griffin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 01:19:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E5C16A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D6713C468 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.190] (port=40697 helo=smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HS16a-0004CZ-Sc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:19:40 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.214.242]:59117 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HS16W-00053p-M3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:19:36 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:19:25 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <45F9C6ED.2010306@wcborstel.com> <707D1CE0-F7E3-4D29-A755-3AB7495FB66C@goldmark.org> In-Reply-To: <707D1CE0-F7E3-4D29-A755-3AB7495FB66C@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703160219.25929.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:19:42 -0000 On Friday 16 March 2007 01:04:51 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Mar 15, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Jorn Argelo wrote: > > youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > >> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Danny Pansters wrote: > >> I know that this has been discussed a few times before, but > >> IMO running a slightly stripped down kernel (i.e. custom, not > >> GENERIC) actually proves to be helpful in increasing boot times > >> (if options were added statically) and compile times if [(# of > >> options added) < (# of options in GENERIC)]. > > > > I can confirm this too. I noticed on both desktop and servers the > > boot time can be decreased by stripping the kernel configuration of > > stuff you don't need. I don't have any hard facts to prove this but > > this is what my personal experience is. > > me, too. > Of course it will speed up booting but then again how much time does one spend booting, compared to using the puter: not much (at least I hope so for them!) If I do build my own kernel, for example to switch schedulers, I tend to toss out a heap of devices that I don't have anyway. But other than a bit more memory usage (which compared to the software that's run will typically be minor anyhow unless you're talking embedded system or maybe not-so-embedded but still of low spec special purpose boxes, like a satellite receiver box) you're not going to have a slower system because your kernel happens to have some built-in drivers that it doesn't use. The exception is a debug kernel of course that will impact performance because it increases runtime tasks/load. On a server I'd strip down the kernel, but for other reasons (avoiding any unneeded complexity). On a desktop I don't care as long as thingie works. YMMV of course. Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 01:32:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C3316A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C76813C46C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.190] (port=41862 helo=smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HS1Ir-0006zf-Sg; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:32:21 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.214.242]:56934 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HS1Il-0006kR-Sd; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:32:15 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:32:05 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <20070313173903.H1923@auden.jmla.com> <8a0028260703140637u4f25a074s38357ed7373a855e@mail.gmail.com> <01e401c766c7$1ce3e190$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <01e401c766c7$1ce3e190$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703160232.05227.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:32:23 -0000 On Thursday 15 March 2007 06:59:36 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Rollin" > > > I think it needs to be clarified that the reason /why/ the image of > > Beastie is so apt to represent a Daemon is only /because/ it LOOKS > > like a daemon/devil. > > How do ye know what thee Angel of the Bottomless Pit looks like? Do > ye regularly meet with the Antichrist? Some people on this mailing list might argue that they regularly do ;-) Couldn't resist. Cheers, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 03:25:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F377016A406 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DB213C457 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3Pith009214 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:25:44 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3PhB3031983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:25:44 -0700 Message-ID: <45FA0E37.4020102@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:25:43 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200703150321.18033.danny@ricin.com> <20070315153157.GA22789@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070315153157.GA22789@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.15.201434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:25:45 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 08:19:49PM -0700, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: >> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Danny Pansters wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 15 March 2007 02:16, Gary Kline wrote: >>>> Two quick one for kernel and/or compiler wizards: first, is >>>> a 400Mz processor considered a 586 (for my KERNELCONF file)? >>> Think its 686 (but really, leaving 486 and 586 in isn't going to slow down >>> booting or anything!) I always say: Use GENERIC unless you have a good >>> reason >>> not to. >>> >>>> Second, is it safe to do a buildworld with -O3? If there are >>> No. It's not supported if things break. >>> >>>> stability concerns, I'll go with the default when I rebuild my >>>> 6.2 systems. >>> The defaults should be fine. Also, like I said consider just using GENERIC >>> and >>> load the odd kmod if needed. Generally it's less headache and equal >>> performance. >>> >>>> thanks in advance, >>>> >>>> gary >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Dan >> As Dan and Gary said -O3 isn't supported, and in many cases that "level of >> optimization" gets filtered out while compiling sections of FreeBSD. >> >> Besides, I've compiled stuff with -O3 and various optimizations in Gentoo >> Linux before, and let me say that it caused a great deal of headaches... >> that's why I stick with -O2 now, because it's better to have something in >> executable shape and a bit slower (arguably because some optimizations slow >> things down) than it is to have something run fast and break all the time. >> >> Some food for thought :). > > > --Food for thought and a chuckle too! (not to mention that > it's waaay early, the chickens are still snoring, and I've > only had *one* cup of joe)... I've done some investigation > with optimizing my own code, usually < 1000 lines, and haven't > seen much gain between -O2 and -O3. Loop-unrolling may be > different; one trick that compiler hackers at supercomputer > companies use by default in to unroll small loops. Cray is > one example. Soooo, to get any real gain is going to mean > going thru the most freq used tools (*grep, find, ls) and > hand-tweak. Might buy 5 - 7%. > > have a good one, > > gary > >> -Garrett No problem. -funroll-loops might not buy you too much other than a few less instructions overall but I'm not sure how intelligent gcc is at unrolling loops. It seemed like there was a difference between optimizations in the 4.x branch compared to the 3.4.x sub branch. They made a lot of improvements in the 4.x branch though.. it's just that some of those improvements broke code, so that's probably why FreeBSD doesn't have gcc-4.x in the base system. Cheers :). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 03:36:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF4816A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEE713C459 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3ZxrV023766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:35:59 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3ZwfP032538 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:35:59 -0700 Message-ID: <45FA109E.30801@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:35:58 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20703151037q270e46b7x9c528908b8634cc4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20703151037q270e46b7x9c528908b8634cc4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.15.202433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_6 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Verifying my 3D drivers set up properly for my nVidia based graphics card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:36:00 -0000 Jim Stapleton wrote: > I have a 7300GT in my computer, and I have run into a couple of errors > trying to set up WoW in Wine (couldn't find copies of the error > elsewhere). Also a couple of OpenGL applications are running slower > than one would expect given my card (especially in the screen savers > area, where the same apps would run /too fast/ with my old Ti4200. > These in conjunction lead me to suspect my graphics setup. > > What application/method would you suggest to test this? I'd prefer > something that would provide command line information, rather than > "about how fast does this run?" > > I checked for the libraries mentioned on nVidias web site, and they > are all in the right spots, which leads me to suspect it's an > xorg.conf error, but I'm not sure. I've attached the xorg.conf file to > the end, just in case. > > Thanks, > -Jim Stapleton > > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf: [snipped config] > /var/log/Xorg.0.log: [snipped long log] Jim, I'm not sure about your wine config because wine's a very twitchy beast (over the past couple years in particular because of an API change I think). All I know is that I was very happy and amazed when I got Half-Life 1 to play on my desktop back when I ran KDE in Linux. It was astonishing.. glxgears will provide you with some performance info about your OpenGL stats though. It also depends on what you're running, what your 7300GT runs for shared RAM, etc because I noticed that you mentioned Ti4200 (my first nVidia card), and they customarily came stock with 64MB of VRAM, whereas the 7300GT cards I can only assume come with around 256MB ~ 368MB. This in turn could seriously eat up system RAM if you don't have a lot and reduce performance in your machine, like what occurred with me and my first desktop after I upgraded to a Geforce 6200 card with 128MB of RAM since my system only has 512MB of RAM to allocate. Some things got faster, some things stayed the same, and some things got slower.. It also depends on the vendor that you bought the card from too. nVidia contracted their chipset to quite a few 3rd parties after the 5000 series, and it seems like their graphics quality in some respects has become inconsistent, and degraded with some vendors. -Garrett -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 03:38:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CA716A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:38:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD8C13C465 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:38:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3cJl6016182 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:38:20 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3cJe2032629 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:38:19 -0700 Message-ID: <45FA112A.3030907@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:38:18 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45F541F3.5040309@planet.nl> <45F61BE0.8060502@hier7.com> <39547.68.184.120.224.1173758324.squirrel@webmail.cyberwang.net> <200703130832.15210.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> <45F989B9.1050908@cyberwang.net> In-Reply-To: <45F989B9.1050908@cyberwang.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.15.202934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__C230066_P5 0, __CP_MEDIA_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_SUBJ_9 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: No matter what I try I can't get Nvidia 3d acceleration to work. Please help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:38:20 -0000 Sean Bryant wrote: > Norbert Papke wrote: >> On Monday 12 March 2007 20:58, sean@cyberwang.net wrote: >> >>> I'm actually having the same problem, but after I took out device agp >>> out >>> of my kernel. And I still cannot start x with nvidia driver. >>> >>> It complains that /dev/nvidiactl couldn't be opened. And then it says it >>> failed to load the kernel module. >>> >> >> It seems that the graphics card is not detected. Does >> 'pciconf -l | grep nvidia' >> >> show anything? >> >> What model is it? If it is an older card, you may need the older >> version of the NVIDIA driver. >> >> >>> sysctl -a | grep nvidia >>> hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 1.0-9746 Tue Dec 19 >>> 13:20:59 PST 2006 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.DevicesConnected: 0 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.RmLogonRC: 1 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.DetectPrimaryVga: 1 >>> hw.nvidia.registry.dwords: >>> >> >> For comparison, here is my output. Note that there are card specific >> entries. >> >> # sysctl -a | grep nvidia >> nvidia 603 1293K - 38844 >> 16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096 >> nvidia0: port 0xbc00-0xbc7f mem >> 0xfd000000-0xfdffffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xfc000000-0xfcffffff irq >> 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 >> nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] >> hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 1.0-9746 Tue Dec 19 >> 13:20:59 PST 2006 >> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 >> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 >> hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 >> hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 >> hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.DevicesConnected: 0 >> hw.nvidia.registry.RmLogonRC: 1 >> hw.nvidia.registry.DetectPrimaryVga: 1 >> hw.nvidia.registry.dwords: >> hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce 7600 GS >> hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 >> hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 05.73.22.16.02 >> hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: PCI-E >> dev.nvidia.0.%desc: GeForce 7600 GS >> dev.nvidia.0.%driver: nvidia >> dev.nvidia.0.%location: slot=0 function=0 >> dev.nvidia.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x10de device=0x0392 subvendor=0x3842 >> subdevice=0xc547 class=0x030000 >> dev.nvidia.0.%parent: pci3 > > It seems the driver is attached: > nvidia0@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00f910de > rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 > > its a 6800 GT. From BFG. I am on CURRENT. And xorg 6.9.0 Driver section from Xorg? Also, this could be an issue with some changes to the kernel interfaces for AGP / PCI-express, video, ABI, etc.. -CURRENT can be problematic sometimes and something may have gotten broken after an update. You may want to take this question up on the -current@ list though. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 03:41:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA20316A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9621F13C468 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3fu4l009644 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:41:56 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3ftS7022123 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:41:55 -0700 Message-ID: <45FA1202.6010405@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:41:54 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <682271DA-A9C3-48E0-A18E-8546A7725864@goldmark.org> <20070315084846.GA15959@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <499c70c0703150316x67bd1783g53ad5f7d04ed2682@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.15.202934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: SUMMARY: CPUTYPE for VIA EPIA M-Series Mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:41:56 -0000 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > [mailed, posted and bcc'ed to off list respondents] > > > First let me quote my original query: > >> I have one of these >> >> CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah (999.52-MHz 686-class CPU) >> Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x691 Stepping = 1 >> Features=0x380b035 >> >> http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=81 >> >> >> And 6.2-RELEASE p2 >> >> When I set CPUTYPE=c3 in /etc/make.conf the world seemed to build just >> fine, but (at least) gcc ended up broken. Most compiling attempts >> after that ended up with gcc reporting an internal error. >> >> Now that I've entered the FreeBSD world and am building everything >> from source, I would like to take advantage of that by compiling for >> my system. >> >> Does anyone have a similar system? And what CPUTYPE or local tuning >> do you recommend? >> >> A dmesg for the system is available at >> >> http://ntp0.goldmark.org/temp/dmesg > > I've had two responses telling me that the make.conf defaults are just > fine, and two (one off list) recommending i686/pentiumpro. One for > pentiumpro and the other for i686, but as Andreas Rudish helpfully > pointed out, those two are probably the same thing. No one suggested > using c3. In fact, cpghost emphatically stated not to use C3 in make.conf > > Adbullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri also helpfully directed me for information > about safe CFLAGS to > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags > > where the entry for the Via Nehemiah says: > > ============================================================== > Nehemiah (C5XL)/C5P (Via) > > CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" > CFLAGS="-march=i686 -msse -mmmx -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" > > note: The more recent versions of the C3 do support the cmov instruction > and hence -march=i686. If you must be compatible with all VIA C3 > versions, do not use the settings in this section. > > note: it is also possible to use "-march=c3-2". <-- Comment to this: I > got a problem "compiler can't create executables" with this setting. > > note: I had much better luck with -Os than with -O2. The cache on the > nehemiah chips is really small, so making the executables small helps > more than anything else. > ============================================================== > > The off list response added > > >> - Setting CPUTYPE to pentium, or pentiumpro both work fine. IIRC, >> the C3 designation is Linux-specific and doesn't exist for >> FreeBSD. >> > > If everybody agrees that the c3 designation is unwise to use, then > probably the distributed > > /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf > > The off list responded gave extremely helpful and detailed information > about trimming the kernel for a similar box. I've already done most of > what that recommends. > > In sum, don't use the c3 specification in /etc/make.conf even though the > example would suggested otherwise. > > Thanks all for your help > > -j Indeed. After reading a mock up of the processor is appears that it's an Intel 686 clone. See: (it's a bit old for an article, so I hope you don't mind the dust :)..). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 03:44:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A2816A405 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9784913C468 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3i1s8009234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:44:01 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3i0fC000432 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:44:00 -0700 Message-ID: <45FA1280.5020406@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:44:00 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200703152006.UAA28235@sopwith.solgatos.com> <20070315203644.GA71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20070315203644.GA71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.15.202934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: burncd makes disk that is unmountable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:44:01 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 01:06:10PM +0100, Dieter wrote: > >> AMD64 running 6.0 >> Drive is: >> acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA66 >> Media is CD-RW >> >> Burned a 6.2 disk using: >> burncd data 6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fixate >> as suggested in >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html > > I don't remember the details, but when I got to 6.1, I found that > my old burncd parameters would not work and I had to change them. > > I don't remember the details, but I settled upon: > /usr/sbin/burncd -v -f /dev/acd0 data FreeBSD62-disc1.iso fixate > which seems to work find. Both boots and mounts. That doesn't look > materially different from yours, but... > > ////jerry > >> Seemed to go okay. Disk boots, but I cannot mount it: >> >> fstab entry: >> /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 >> >> Yields: >> g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5 >> >> Tried it with and without "fixate", neither will mount. >> >> Other iso disks (probably burned using NetBSD) mount fine. >> UFS DVD+RW disks burned under FreeBSD using growisofs mount fine. >> >> Given the error message, I assume that the block/sector at 32768 isn't >> getting written. I hate to slam burncd because it does the job, but I've always found cdrecord / mkisofs to be a better set of software for burning CDs than burncd.. Besides, burncd chokes on permission errors on my machine whereas cdrecord keeps on humming away with issue, and I've been using it for 2 releases now (6.1, 6.2). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 03:44:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEED16A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C90A13C480 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2G3iORP036519; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:44:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2G3iNMg036518; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:44:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:44:23 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20070316034423.GA36425@thought.org> References: <200703150321.18033.danny@ricin.com> <20070315153157.GA22789@thought.org> <45FA0E37.4020102@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45FA0E37.4020102@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:44:14 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:25:43PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > >On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 08:19:49PM -0700, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > >>On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Danny Pansters wrote: > >> > > No problem. -funroll-loops might not buy you too much other than a few > less instructions overall but I'm not sure how intelligent gcc is at > unrolling loops. It seemed like there was a difference between > optimizations in the 4.x branch compared to the 3.4.x sub branch. They > made a lot of improvements in the 4.x branch though.. it's just that > some of those improvements broke code, so that's probably why FreeBSD > doesn't have gcc-4.x in the base system. Until one of my hardware buddes can swap memory from an unsed Kayak into my "new" (koff-koff) one, I have to be careful about the added bytes that loop unrolling costs. It's ballpark 10% with the default gcc. I'm building the 4.x stuff now with no ++CFLAGS. The compiler guys know their stuff. If any good and surprising news happens, I'll post it. "Unix: get every last billionth-of-a-penny's worth out of your hardware." ah, life! gary > > Cheers :). > -Garrett > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 03:46:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC3F16A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD7B13C458 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3kkWD010308 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:46:46 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3kj8e000554 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:46:45 -0700 Message-ID: <45FA1325.6020409@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:46:45 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070315164706.4fy8vlmhw00kk4s8@mail.schnarff.com> <20070315210957.GF71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070315211624.GA89114@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20070315211624.GA89114@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.15.203434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Should I Upgrade 5.4 -> 6.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:46:46 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 05:09:57PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 04:47:06PM -0400, alex@schnarff.com wrote: >> >>> First off, I want to thank the people who responded to my thread >>> "Stability Issues on a 5.4-RELEASE box" a couple of weeks ago; after >>> disabling hyperthreading, getting a clean run of Memtest back, and >>> doing some serious fsck'ing of the disks, the box appears to now be >>> completely stable. I'm still not sure which of the above fixed the >>> problem...but I'll take a stable system at this point. :-) >>> >>> That said, in that thread I had asked about the advisability of >>> upgrading to 6.2, and it was intelligently pointed out that doing so in >>> pursuit of stability was a bad idea. Now that the box is stable, >>> though, I'm back to the same question: should I make the upgrade, and >>> if so, how should I do it? >>> >>> My primary driver for doing so would be to keep current enough that I'm >>> still getting security and other patches on a regular basis, and that I >>> can upgrade my applications from ports as necessary. If this is not an >>> issue, then my only remaining concern would be that it's usually easier >>> to get support on lists like this if you're running a modern version of >>> the OS (that's certainly the case with the OpenBSD folks). >>> >>> My primary concern with upgrading is that the box is in Portland, OR, >>> and I'm in Arlington, VA...and while the ISP is friendly, I doubt that >>> I could count on them for major system recovery if I botch something >>> during the upgrade. My other worry is that I don't want to break >>> existing apps if possible (the main one I'm concerned about is >>> Zope/Plone). This is a production box with moderate traffic, and it >>> would be a problem if there was extensive downtime. >>> >>> Is it worth upgrading? If so, what's the best way to do so -- CVSup, or >>> some other way? Are there any major caveats if I do choose to upgrade >>> (or choose to stay with the existing OS)? >> You should if you can reasonably do it, for the reasons you give plus >> improvements in performance and in some utilities. >> >> My sentiment is usually to do a clean install over major version numbers. >> It tends to leave less dross laying around. but I do not have to worry >> about down times very much, a couple of hours at night is not terribly >> noticable in my stuff. It does require more time down to do a clean >> from scratch install. But, I think you can get away with a cvsup upgrade >> from 5.4 to 6.2. Then your downtime is just the reboot and stuff at single >> user (mergemaster), plus probably some for upgrading various ports. > > Yes, a source upgrade from 5.x to 6.x (followed by portupgrade -fa) > isn't too bad. As with any upgrade you do need a recovery strategy > though. > > Kris I agree with both Kris and Jerry. Besides, if you run 6.2 you're running a supported version of FreeBSD whereas 5.4 isn't supported anymore (5.5 is the last supported version in the legacy 5.x branch). Plus there are slight improvements from 5.x to 6.x. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 03:50:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A26116A405 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E2813C45B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3oMYo012885 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:50:23 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G3oMll000754 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:50:22 -0700 Message-ID: <45FA13FD.10608@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:50:21 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20703151037q270e46b7x9c528908b8634cc4@mail.gmail.com> <200703151804.35879.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> In-Reply-To: <200703151804.35879.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.15.203934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Verifying my 3D drivers set up properly for my nVidia based graphics card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:50:23 -0000 Norbert Papke wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 10:37, Jim Stapleton wrote: >> Also a couple of OpenGL applications are running slower >> than one would expect given my card (especially in the screen savers >> area, where the same apps would run /too fast/ with my old Ti4200. >> These in conjunction lead me to suspect my graphics setup. > >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf: > [...] >> Section "Extensions" >> Option "Composite" "Enable" >> EndSection > > Even though the nvidia drivers claim to support OpenGL with the composite > extension enabled, my experience has been that it leads to performance > similar to what you are describing. Try disabling composite. > > Cheers, > > -- Norbert. True. Composite still isn't the greatest under the 6.9 branch of Xorg (and it wasn't that great under Xorg 7.0 either). It might have improved since then though in 7.1/7.2. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 04:55:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D53216A405 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [63.240.77.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4BE13C457 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net) Received: from [192.168.245.10] (c-67-174-190-68.hsd1.co.comcast.net[67.174.190.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2007031604551101100aj2gae>; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:55:11 +0000 From: Aaron Siegel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:55:21 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703152155.21957.bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net> Subject: CD burning problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:55:12 -0000 Hello I am unable to burn cd with my new Sony DVD-RW. I have been fighting with t= his=20 for month. Sorry for have to post this message for such a basic task, Bello= w=20 is the error message that is produced by cdrecord=20 Thank you Aaron # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd6.1) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J=F6r= g=20 Schilling Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'SONY ' 'DVD RW DRU-820A ' '1.0b' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) * 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * # cdrecord dev=3D1,0,0 k3b_image.iso cdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent=20 defaults. cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd6.1) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J=F6r= g=20 Schilling scsidev: '1,0,0' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities :=20 Vendor_info : 'SONY ' Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-820A ' Revision : '1.0b' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. cdrecord: This version of cdrecord does not include DVD-R/DVD-RW support co= de. cdrecord: If you need DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for=20 cdrecord-ProDVD. cdrecord: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at=20 ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE=20 Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 40 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write 0 seconds. Operation starts. Turning BURN-Free off cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error CDB: 2A 00 00 00 01 55 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 00 00 00 0A 4F 85 00 00 08 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00= 00=20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x08 Qual 0x03 (logical unit communication crc error=20 (ultra-dma/32)) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)=20 cmd finished after 18.206s timeout 40s write track data: error after 698368 bytes cdrecord: A write error occured. cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above. cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryable= =20 error CDB: 5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 2C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00= 00=20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x2C Qual 0x00 (command sequence error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)=20 cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 480s cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 480s cdrecord: Cannot fixate disk. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 05:08:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D893716A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AAF13C45A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G58ojK022169 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:08:51 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2G58nMU004571 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:08:50 -0700 Message-ID: <45FA2661.7000606@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:08:49 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200703152155.21957.bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net> In-Reply-To: <200703152155.21957.bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.15.215433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_25 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: CD burning problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:08:51 -0000 Aaron Siegel wrote: > Hello > > I am unable to burn cd with my new Sony DVD-RW. I have been fighting with this > for month. Sorry for have to post this message for such a basic task, Bellow > is the error message that is produced by cdrecord > > Thank you > Aaron > > # cdrecord -scanbus > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd6.1) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg > Schilling > Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. > scsibus1: > 1,0,0 100) 'SONY ' 'DVD RW DRU-820A ' '1.0b' Removable CD-ROM > 1,1,0 101) * > 1,2,0 102) * > 1,3,0 103) * > 1,4,0 104) * > 1,5,0 105) * > 1,6,0 106) * > 1,7,0 107) * > > # cdrecord dev=1,0,0 k3b_image.iso > cdrecord: No write mode specified. > cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. > cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent > defaults. > cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd6.1) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg > Schilling > scsidev: '1,0,0' > scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 > Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. > Device type : Removable CD-ROM > Version : 0 > Response Format: 2 > Capabilities : > Vendor_info : 'SONY ' > Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-820A ' > Revision : '1.0b' > Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. > cdrecord: This version of cdrecord does not include DVD-R/DVD-RW support code. > cdrecord: If you need DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for > cdrecord-ProDVD. > cdrecord: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at > ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ > Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). > Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE > Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R > Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 40 in real TAO mode for single session. > Last chance to quit, starting real write 0 seconds. Operation starts. > Turning BURN-Free off > cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error > CDB: 2A 00 00 00 01 55 00 00 1F 00 > status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) > Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 00 00 00 0A 4F 85 00 00 08 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0 > Sense Code: 0x08 Qual 0x03 (logical unit communication crc error > (ultra-dma/32)) Fru 0x0 > Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) > cmd finished after 18.206s timeout 40s > write track data: error after 698368 bytes > cdrecord: A write error occured. > cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above. > cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryable > error > CDB: 5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) > Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 2C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 > Sense Code: 0x2C Qual 0x00 (command sequence error) Fru 0x0 > Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) > cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 480s > cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 480s > cdrecord: Cannot fixate disk. Cheap media? How much data are you trying to burn? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 05:11:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A3916A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Symantec_AntiVirus_for_SMTP_Gateways@ci.com) Received: from matrix2.ci.com (matrix2.cifunds.com [216.191.84.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43A213C46E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Symantec_AntiVirus_for_SMTP_Gateways@ci.com) Received: from NORTON.cifunds.com (unknown [142.148.33.200]) by matrix2.ci.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B57914DDBA for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:41:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Symantec_AntiVirus_for_SMTP_Gateways@ci.com To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:40:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <20070316044122.3B57914DDBA@matrix2.ci.com> Cc: Subject: CI INVESTMENTS' e-mail policy - Action Taken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:11:01 -0000 The attachment(s) from the following e-mail was removed due to CI Investments' e-mail policy. 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(8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2G4CDq7056779 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:12:13 -0700 (PDT envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:12:12 -0700 From: Norbert Papke In-reply-to: <45FA13FD.10608@u.washington.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200703152112.12978.npapke@acm.org> Organization: Archaeological Filing MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20703151037q270e46b7x9c528908b8634cc4@mail.gmail.com> <200703151804.35879.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> <45FA13FD.10608@u.washington.edu> X-Authentication-warning: proven.: npapke set sender to npapke@acm.org using -f User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Subject: Re: Verifying my 3D drivers set up properly for my nVidia based graphics card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:12:21 -0000 On Thursday 15 March 2007 20:50, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Composite still isn't the greatest under the 6.9 branch of Xorg > (and it wasn't that great under Xorg 7.0 either). It might have improved > since then though in 7.1/7.2. I am running 7,2 and still cannot get the nvidia drivers to work with composite + OpenGL. -- Norbert. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 05:14:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17DF16A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B482513C4BB for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E411A4D93; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B6E92517C9; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:14:45 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20070316051445.GA93327@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20070315164706.4fy8vlmhw00kk4s8@mail.schnarff.com> <20070315210957.GF71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070315211624.GA89114@xor.obsecurity.org> <45FA1325.6020409@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45FA1325.6020409@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should I Upgrade 5.4 -> 6.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:14:47 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:46:45PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 05:09:57PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > >>On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 04:47:06PM -0400, alex@schnarff.com wrote: > >> > >>>First off, I want to thank the people who responded to my thread > >>>"Stability Issues on a 5.4-RELEASE box" a couple of weeks ago; after > >>>disabling hyperthreading, getting a clean run of Memtest back, and > >>>doing some serious fsck'ing of the disks, the box appears to now be > >>>completely stable. I'm still not sure which of the above fixed the > >>>problem...but I'll take a stable system at this point. :-) > >>> > >>>That said, in that thread I had asked about the advisability of > >>>upgrading to 6.2, and it was intelligently pointed out that doing so in > >>>pursuit of stability was a bad idea. Now that the box is stable, > >>>though, I'm back to the same question: should I make the upgrade, and > >>>if so, how should I do it? > >>> > >>>My primary driver for doing so would be to keep current enough that I'm > >>>still getting security and other patches on a regular basis, and that I > >>>can upgrade my applications from ports as necessary. If this is not an > >>>issue, then my only remaining concern would be that it's usually easier > >>>to get support on lists like this if you're running a modern version of > >>>the OS (that's certainly the case with the OpenBSD folks). > >>> > >>>My primary concern with upgrading is that the box is in Portland, OR, > >>>and I'm in Arlington, VA...and while the ISP is friendly, I doubt that > >>>I could count on them for major system recovery if I botch something > >>>during the upgrade. My other worry is that I don't want to break > >>>existing apps if possible (the main one I'm concerned about is > >>>Zope/Plone). This is a production box with moderate traffic, and it > >>>would be a problem if there was extensive downtime. > >>> > >>>Is it worth upgrading? If so, what's the best way to do so -- CVSup, or > >>>some other way? Are there any major caveats if I do choose to upgrade > >>>(or choose to stay with the existing OS)? > >>You should if you can reasonably do it, for the reasons you give plus > >>improvements in performance and in some utilities. > >> > >>My sentiment is usually to do a clean install over major version numbers. > >>It tends to leave less dross laying around. but I do not have to worry > >>about down times very much, a couple of hours at night is not terribly > >>noticable in my stuff. It does require more time down to do a clean > >>from scratch install. But, I think you can get away with a cvsup > >>upgrade from 5.4 to 6.2. Then your downtime is just the reboot and > >>stuff at single user (mergemaster), plus probably some for upgrading > >>various ports. > > > >Yes, a source upgrade from 5.x to 6.x (followed by portupgrade -fa) > >isn't too bad. As with any upgrade you do need a recovery strategy > >though. > > > >Kris > > I agree with both Kris and Jerry. Besides, if you run 6.2 you're running > a supported version of FreeBSD whereas 5.4 isn't supported anymore (5.5 > is the last supported version in the legacy 5.x branch). Plus there are > slight improvements from 5.x to 6.x. s/slight/major/ ;) Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 07:08:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F3116A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chandler.lists@chapman.edu) Received: from calais.chapman.edu (calais.chapman.edu [192.77.116.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0AE13C45D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chandler.lists@chapman.edu) Received: from [206.211.142.43] (ist43.chapman.edu [206.211.142.43]) by calais.chapman.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63142EA09 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:08:49 -0700 From: Jay Chandler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070312) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chapman-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Chapman-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Chapman-MailScanner-From: chandler.lists@chapman.edu X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Flash with Firefox 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:08:54 -0000 I can't be the first person to ask this, but a Google and a cursory search of the archives don't lend me much in the way of hints. Anyone have a link or an explanation of how to get the Flash plugin working within Firefox? I've gotten Java up already, but Flash continues to elude me... -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator Chapman University From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 07:28:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEDE16A409 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicklas@dinpris.no) Received: from spybar.oslo.dinpris.com (smtpc.dinpris.com [195.242.138.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C450513C468 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicklas@dinpris.no) Received: from [195.242.138.2] (smaug.gonext.se [195.242.138.2]) by spybar.oslo.dinpris.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58F28504A6; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:13:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45FA4371.4090205@dinpris.no> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:12:49 +0100 From: "Nicklas B. Westerlund" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (Windows/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: neo neo References: <7f391ef40703151553o7bcade72qa8bc8491dac7c5f2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703151553o7bcade72qa8bc8491dac7c5f2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS configuration at FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:28:41 -0000 neo neo wrote: > could u please tell me detail how to configure DNS ip ? Please stop posting the same question multiple times. Also, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/etiquette.html Nick. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 07:58:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A91816A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA3913C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l2G7w0wc080036; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:58:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <01ef01c767a0$9ecdbc60$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chuck Swiger" References: <200703141501.l2EF1e2Z267703@shell01.TheWorld.com><00da01c766c2$dfaffdd0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:56:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Ken Cochran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 & rel5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:58:02 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Swiger" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Ken Cochran" ; Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:12 AM Subject: Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 & rel5 > On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > echo "ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime" > > [ ... ] > > > > I think the ln-s line is backwards, I didn't check it. I think it's > > been a while since they used softlinks for localtime > > The use of "ln -s" will work just fine as written. I don't know why > tzsetup makes a copy of the zoneinfo file rather than setting up a > symlink, but making a copy simply allows the file in /etc to become > out-of-sync if one updates the files under /usr/share{/lib}/zoneinfo > without re-running tzsetup again. > Maybe they want the timezone to be correct if you boot into single user mode and don't mount /usr? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 08:08:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAFD16A404 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230D813C458 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l2G88jOd080106; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <01fc01c767a2$1e522010$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Ewald Jenisch" , References: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:07:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: Re: Build your own ISO-install-CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:08:47 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ewald Jenisch" To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:14 AM Subject: Build your own ISO-install-CD? > Hi, > > I need to build my own ISO-install-CD for FreeBSD 6.2. Is this > possible (given an up-to-date /usr/src tree)? > Yes > If yes, how? > The process is long and complex. You don't want to do it if you can help it. If people beg me on this list I'll post the step by step I use but trust me you really really don't want to do this unless absolutely necessary. > Will this process build build a "mini"-CD or a full "Disc1"? > all install disks, plus the mini, depending on what options you set. > Can this "home-brewn" install-CD be used instead of the Disc1 of the > 6.2 CD-set when installing a machine from scratch? > yes > Will it prompt for the second CD containing the various > packages? > it is the same as the distributed install cd so yes. > Thanks in advance for any clue, > -ewald > > PS: Just for explanation: The original 6.2 install-CDs don't support a > specific NIC I've got in my blade-systems. A new-version of the > corresponding driver has already been submitted though. Here is the easy way to fix this. 1) Burn a CD with the new driver 2) Boot off a regular install ISO and install your system plus kernel sources 3) Mount the burned CD and copy the new driver to the kernel source location it is supposed to be at 4) Recompile kernel and your in business. Way, way, way easier than making a custom cd Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 08:15:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C62316A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2B413C45D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l2G8F9MB080160; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:15:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <020501c767a3$02f10ab0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Brian J. Conway" References: <20070310105759.6980f90e.bconway@clue4all.net><007b01c76538$03b2ec60$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20070315071343.7763a3ab.bconway@clue4all.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:13:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:15:14 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian J. Conway" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:13 AM Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE > On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:22:44 -0800 > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > > I have found with some of the intel MBs that the latest BIOS update > > actually causes trouble. Don't be afraid to try back-flashing to an > > older BIOS update. Intel has all the BIOS versions up on their site for > > each board. > > > > Ted > > Tried a few things in the past couple days: > > - Set the interfaces to not auto-negotiate and hard-coded them: No change. > - Tried the past 3 BIOS revisions I had been using previously: No change. > > Next up, started swapping around cards. I noticed that one of my 3 3c905C > cards hadn't been giving the watchdog timeout errors that I could > remember, even though I'm doubting 2/3 of my previously-good cards are > actually bad, but I kept that one at xl1 and tried a good 3c905B as xl0. > This worked a little differently, now instead of watchdog timeouts, on the > previously-normal xl1 I get: > > Mar 15 05:56:51 imogen kernel: xl1: transmission error: 90 > Mar 15 05:56:51 imogen kernel: xl1: tx underrun, increasing tx start > threshold to 120 bytes > > I know it's *technically* an informational message and not a problem, I'm > a perfectionist and would prefer it not to be there. I didn't know you had multiple 3com cards so I didn't mention this earlier, but you will find the 3com cards with the WHITE label on the card to work better than the ones with the YELLOW label. It's a chipset revision thing. It also happens under some versions of Linux. The underrun error is perfectly fine and can be ignored. I have gotten them myself with no ill effects. You will not be able to fix this message. It will go away once the driver has increased the buffer enough. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 08:25:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A64916A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 646E213C44B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Mar 2007 08:25:28 -0000 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+iISlitwCiNRyOHX0NNIsasPYrIOpYeqELlSiW+o +79CQF7RuGWsEG From: "Nino Ivanov" To: "'Josh Paetzel'" , References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:25:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c767a4$a7949ae0$5300000a@HAL9000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdnVk9h37vxhJFhQ6i6pIvz2eOuhwATbgIA In-Reply-To: <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: 'Kris Kennaway' Subject: AW: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:25:31 -0000 Thank you very much for your ideas. I switched to 4.11 after realizing = that it would work as well. Besides, it would be much easier to install = packages, as they are available on CD - for 2.2.9, as far as I saw it, I have to download them. This would have to happen on the Compaq. However, the = HP-disk and the LAN-card which I need for internet access would use the same PCMCIA-slot. -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Josh Paetzel [mailto:josh@tcbug.org]=20 Gesendet: Freitag, 16. M=E4rz 2007 00:05 An: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Kris Kennaway; Nino Ivanov Betreff: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem On Thursday 15 March 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:43:32PM +0100, Nino Ivanov wrote: > > Dear Chistian, Dear Kris, > > > > I also think the RAM will not be the issue, as it is a text-only > > install, and indeed, I am not planning to "get fancy". I > > completely don't need X. Midnight Commander is perfectly fine as > > a working environment. 4.11 seemed OK. > > > > But I am having a different problem right now, which I am still > > researching: It does not recognize the device from where to mount > > root correctly. I mean the following: When I put FreeBSD into the > > Compaq for installation, the harddrive is ad4 or ad8. But in the > > system where I want to run it, the HP Omnibook, it is ad0. > > > > Now, when I start it back in the HP Omnibook, it says that swap > > is not configured correctly on ad8s-something. Which is true, it > > should look for it on ad0... I have only once been able till now > > to mount root. (And this is my basis for assuming that even 4.11 > > CAN potentially run.) I said as command ufs:/dev/ad0 when it > > asked me where to mount root from. This worked, however, e.g. > > ufs:/dev/ad0s1 did not work. I am thinking that I might have made > > a mistake, and should have said ad0s1a. > > > > Yet, the principal new problem persists: FreeBSD does not realize > > that it should now look at ad0 instead of ad4 or ad8. (However, > > in the booting process, it correctly "sees" ad0 as having 325 MB > > etc.) Is there a way to solve this? > > Probably the /etc/fstab is wrong and refers to the ad4 or ad8 > devices. The root should indeed typically be ufs:/dev/ad0s1a. > > Kris I'm a tad confused, as I thought we were talking about FBSD 2.x, which=20 would've called your drive wd0, not ad0. But Kris is correct in that=20 your fstab is wrong...your /boot/loader.conf probably has the wrong=20 root device as well. --=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 08:31:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE16916A405 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from smtp.enternet.hu (smtp.enternet.hu [62.112.192.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE26113C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from [62.68.171.97] (helo=[172.16.0.43]) by smtp.enternet.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4) id 1HS7qv-00082p-0k; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:31:57 +0100 Message-ID: <45FA55FD.70905@freemail.hu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:31:57 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Nagy_L=E1szl=F3_Zsolt?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Chandler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> In-Reply-To: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Flash with Firefox 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:31:59 -0000 Jay Chandler írta: > I can't be the first person to ask this, but a Google and a cursory > search of the archives don't lend me much in the way of hints. > > Anyone have a link or an explanation of how to get the Flash plugin > working within Firefox? I've gotten Java up already, but Flash > continues to elude me... > You need to install the linux version. Flash plugin is not supported in the FreeBSD version. In Linux compatibility mode, the flash plugin makes the browser unstable. Too bad. :-( There are some applications that we would like to have ported to FreeBSD. Firefox flash plugin is on of them. Another one is a natvive skype port. The authors of these softwares do not support FreeBSD and the source code is closed. :-( Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 09:24:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7786216A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from smtp.enternet.hu (smtp.enternet.hu [62.112.192.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CED13C484 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from [62.68.171.97] (helo=[172.16.0.43]) by smtp.enternet.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4) id 1HS8g1-000An6-AW; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:24:45 +0100 Message-ID: <45FA625E.3040901@freemail.hu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:24:46 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nagy_L=E1szl=F3_Zsolt?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45F86213.10604@designaproduct.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20070314160910.024dc2f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> <45F867D4.4060405@freemail.hu> <20070314174657.4741d926@localhost> <45F94706.9090201@freemail.hu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: sendmail not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:24:46 -0000 > > Postfix is designed to keep a firm separation of MTA and MDA > functionality for security reasons and always wants to receive > incoming mail via the MTA...it will not short-circuit to doing local > delivery the way sendmail can. So I really need sendmail, not postfix, because I have a different (tunelled remote) MTA. :-) Thank you! Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 09:54:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2149316A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E99813C45E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2G9sDm4073426; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:54:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2G9sCPU073423; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:54:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:54:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Bram Schoenmakers In-Reply-To: <200703151857.19679.bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20070316105231.I73074@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <200703151857.19679.bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'nodump' on directories: new contents still dumped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:54:14 -0000 > > I'm using dump(8) for backing up a FreeBSD 4.10 server. In order to decrease > the resulting file size, I flagged some directories like /usr/ports > and /usr/src with 'nodump'. I adjusted the dump level 0 script to have -h 0, > so that worked fine. The other scripts for dumps >0 do not have a -h flag > set, because -h 1 is default. POSSIBLY you should but -h 0 always. but it's just a guess. > The problem is that new files appearing in the /usr/ports tree (daily portsnap > cron) do not have the 'nodump' flag set. But despite the 'nodump' flag on > the /usr/ports directory, the new files in the tree are still dumped. at least in FreeBSD 6.2 there is no such problems. i dump my machine to tape drive using this flags and works as expected. i flag with nodump /usr/ports /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/* /tmp /var/spool/squid/* etc.. > One 'hack' is to run a script prior to the dump to recursively set > all 'nodump' flags where appropriate, but I'm hoping that someone can > enlighten me what is going on. > something isn't going up as it should. i use dump and chflags nodump and it works as expected and as manual says From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 09:55:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E3516A417 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D8013C4B8 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2G9tPdn073592; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:55:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2G9tPpF073589; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:55:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:55:25 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: neo neo In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703151444n613b13e9i48e141d5c734cef7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070316105431.F73074@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <7f391ef40703151444n613b13e9i48e141d5c734cef7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:55:26 -0000 > > How to configure Gateway ? man rc.conf (gateway_enable and ipv6_gateway_enable) see /etc/defaults/rc.conf for reference > How to configure DNS ? man named.conf > How to configure NAT ? man natd man ipfw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 09:56:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D002716A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3842E13C4BE for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2G9uWlj073738; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:56:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2G9uVnc073735; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:56:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:56:31 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Dick Hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20070315232705.00003058@shire> Message-ID: <20070316105556.M73074@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <7f391ef40703151516pc99d198v66bc2fcca81fc319@mail.gmail.com> <20070315232705.00003058@shire> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:56:32 -0000 > >> but i don't know how to configure DNS . plz .. ? > > Read the same handbook as adviced earlier. And for DNS the O'Reilly > book is great. DNS is no toy. It should be handled with great care. The > internet depends on it. > exactly. it's quite easy to make domains not synchronize to slaves right etc. without being careful From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:07:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6FF16A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mesiob.obspm.fr (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC7D13C44B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from localhost (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.2.126]) by mesiob.obspm.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris) with ESMTP id l2GA7E0n022181; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:07:14 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:07:14 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: Nagy =?iso-8859-1?B?TOFzemzz?= Zsolt Message-ID: <20070316100714.GA855@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> <45FA55FD.70905@freemail.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <45FA55FD.70905@freemail.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:07:14 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.1, clamav-milter version 0.90.1 on mesiob.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jay Chandler Subject: Re: Flash with Firefox 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:07:18 -0000 Le 16/03/2007 à 09:31:57+0100, Nagy László Zsolt a écrit > Jay Chandler írta: > >I can't be the first person to ask this, but a Google and a cursory > >search of the archives don't lend me much in the way of hints. > > > >Anyone have a link or an explanation of how to get the Flash plugin > >working within Firefox? I've gotten Java up already, but Flash > >continues to elude me... > > > You need to install the linux version. Flash plugin is not supported in > the FreeBSD version. In Linux compatibility mode, the flash plugin makes > the browser unstable. Too bad. :-( > > There are some applications that we would like to have ported to > FreeBSD. Firefox flash plugin is on of them. Another one is a natvive > skype port. The authors of these softwares do not support FreeBSD and > the source code is closed. :-( > and....vmware It's very usefull software for make test of new-software. Regards -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Ven 16 mar 2007 11:06:13 CET From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:09:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D262516A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 851EE13C4B7 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 79709 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2007 10:09:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=0X5nL5BSpK1R6cW60A1DV/GBHT2oeiDFkHpm6IvmVJ4bvk2k04GAQ7Hx/7c8DhibciktZ6QJSmRZFDF/0F+4auTOl09rU7mlTQd/J47MJtRiGu5W9jObvOcH088ApCEQXwfP51hBtSm/t6FoXMxryHoZFZhuzMd/LQ41QWp9egE=; X-YMail-OSG: 9A0DTTAVM1m189swTQPFHootfuRa9F20CpYwL2Hj0gCbEG10T3Ge4KaHL8P1ZYEjio1U81Fo08lY9_UyvLrRGAtLYJHCjlBkK_kQ.YSmU7Xhnz1VclF8MfvcZD6C_w2Y Received: from [66.82.9.69] by web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:09:15 ICT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/471 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:09:15 +0700 (ICT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <683651.79176.qm@web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:09:16 -0000 23Hi;=0AIs it possible to rebuild an OS without reformatting the hard drive= ? 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Search = movie showtime shortcut.=0Ahttp://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:16:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88C016A405 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mesiob.obspm.fr (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713A113C45D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from localhost (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.2.126]) by mesiob.obspm.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris) with ESMTP id l2GAGXD5024560 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:16:33 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:16:33 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070316101633.GB855@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:16:33 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.1, clamav-milter version 0.90.1 on mesiob.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Video capture. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:16:35 -0000 Hi all I search some software can capture all my action on my computer's screen directly throught X11 (without sound of course). Something like the classic «screenshot» but in video mode. It's for making video help for me users. If it's possible I don't want use external camera. Regards. -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Ven 16 mar 2007 11:11:28 CET From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:32:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B7516A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92A213C43E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JEZ00CM9P5IBB00@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:32:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from suria.broadpark.no ([80.203.212.30]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JEZ006A1P581OE2@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:32:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:32:04 +0100 From: Kyrre =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nyg=E5rd?= To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <7.0.1.0.2.20070316102312.04601550@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Cc: Subject: Automating MERGEMASTER(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:32:10 -0000 Hello, Is it possible to make MERGEMASTER(8) automatically replace files with a FreeBSD CVS Id, and skip (or prompt interactively) the ones without a FreeBSD CVS Id? The ones without are most certainly my own personalized configuration files. I'd really like to keep them intact. And on every MERGEMASTER(8) session I tend to replace every single file but them. Thanks everyone! All the best, Kyrre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:34:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CBF16A404 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BA513C45B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([193.31.10.34]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:20:48 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l2GAMACF004542; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:22:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to m.apitz@oclcpica.org using -f Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:22:10 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Albert Shih Message-ID: <20070316102210.GA4511@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20070316101633.GB855@pcjas.obspm.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20070316101633.GB855@pcjas.obspm.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2007 10:20:48.0489 (UTC) FILETIME=[C415DD90:01C767B4] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Video capture. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:34:16 -0000 El día Friday, March 16, 2007 a las 11:16:33AM +0100, Albert Shih escribió: > Hi all > > I search some software can capture all my action on my computer's screen > directly throught X11 (without sound of course). Something like the > classic «screenshot» but in video mode. It's for making video help for me > users. > > If it's possible I don't want use external camera. Google groups with the words: joana vncserver matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ OCLC PICA GmbH, Geschaeftsfuehrer: Christine Magin-Weeger, Norbert Weinberger Sitz der Gesellschaft: Oberhaching, HRB Muenchen: 113261 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:38:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B31B16A404 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rob@no-jutsu.net) Received: from jives.spoofedpacket.net (jives.spoofedpacket.net [69.12.222.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB9113C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rob@no-jutsu.net) Received: from rob by jives.spoofedpacket.net with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HS9E2-00031t-EV; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:59:54 +0000 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:59:54 +0000 To: Jay Chandler Message-ID: <20070316095954.GA23949@jives.spoofedpacket.net> References: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 From: Rob Gallagher Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Flash with Firefox 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:38:50 -0000 Hi, On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:08:49AM -0700, Jay Chandler wrote: > > Anyone have a link or an explanation of how to get the Flash plugin > working within Firefox? I've gotten Java up already, but Flash > continues to elude me... > It *used* to work with firefox and libmap. However this is no longer possible, I think it's due to some licensing restrictions - mabye other technical issues I'm not sure. Flash will work natively with recent versions of Opera however, via the opera-linuxplugins port. Probably not much use if you want to stick with firefox though. > -- > Jay Chandler > Network Administrator > Chapman University > rg -- rob (at) no-jutsu.net || www.spoofedpacket.net || PK: 0x1DD13A78 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:39:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBCA16A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E410913C4BD for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1HS9q4-0006yS-2r>; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:39:12 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1HS9q4-0001Pm-1h>; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:39:12 +0100 Message-ID: <45FA73CE.50607@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:39:10 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070307) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Subject: net.link.bridge.ipfw_arp/net.link.ipfw: filtering only with IPFW? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:39:13 -0000 This question may sound stupid, but I would like to ask it anyway. On my lab's and private's FreeBSD box (lab is FBSD 6.2-STABLE, at home 7.0-CURRENT) I utilize pf() as my preferred filtering system. What is the meaning of net.link.bridge.ipfw_arp and net.link.bridge.ipfw? Does it mean it can only be filtered by ipfw() or is this simply a global meaning that each bridged packet is injected into any filtering facility? I'm not very firm with MAC based filtering, I only know ipfw() is/was capable of doing that, but is pf() also? A sneak look at the manpage doesn't revela that point for me, sorry for my lazyness. Thanks for your patience, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:39:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCCF16A413 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B8BE13C469 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Mar 2007 10:39:26 -0000 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+VFV9q1RuVodvUnd4bbKyVLE4kVe+jhzNSht4Pmt wXuWaJvOxj6CHa From: "Nino Ivanov" To: References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:39:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c767b7$5e92e5f0$5300000a@HAL9000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdnVk9h37vxhJFhQ6i6pIvz2eOuhwATbgIAAASwwcA= In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Problems with your ftp site X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:39:28 -0000 Dear Sir or Madam, I tried reaching ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like to download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular behaviour, and in any case, is there a way to download these images? NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I think. Regards, Nino Ivanov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:45:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFFE16A408 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4ED13C4B7 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so493529wxc for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:45:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lUj5jfgX9+Nkmli2HgaXkv98gJsl9AWz+0FKeFUxiO2WyNu3jkaqW/3NSolcC/xmQ3xxHhUBOAYvnpFjaRmbZk36D9X7Hl3lDUJRQFfA83YzvmdwLyS61xe/OsTDWHkw5a+kTg/7PEQjFYkPkD72HuqySdHheYtF0qAnZ82u1Vw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dg7i8KHhMEo4+4v8sowxDYbVVEmb+fXLezaIvLavpkY0C+JTFYkZb6MPR8r2ey06ehRK4KUVkpfgFmv02ZQQfClCpYhUwgPOAtvwv3b9m8aCO8vCuDjxylljMkXouO5hdhgpw86fm/YAWVNuGSQ0AsOqYFedwN25HtqKRarEKXM= Received: by 10.70.80.14 with SMTP id d14mr2928771wxb.1174041940046; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.14.15 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14989d6e0703160345p386ccf4em673635e6f56b1324@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:45:40 +0000 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Drew Jenkins" In-Reply-To: <683651.79176.qm@web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <683651.79176.qm@web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:45:40 -0000 On 16/03/07, Drew Jenkins wrote: > 23Hi; > Is it possible to rebuild an OS without reformatting the hard drive? I have FBSD6.2, so I can't upgrade. What are you trying to do? You could always go to /usr/src and do a make buildworld, which would rebuild the entire FreeBSD userland. Ports can be rebuilt, too, for example by doing a portupgrade -afk > TIA, > Drew Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:50:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E6A16A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FC5B13C468 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Mar 2007 10:50:24 -0000 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/E2KZlDyXE5PrHhCePsB7hW8ivWaxvvKY9yfSCnY ik/soJKGhL1A3B From: "Nino Ivanov" To: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:50:21 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c767b8$e6e26ab0$5300000a@HAL9000> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdnuOTmRR/joNImR563oA6X6iFQmQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problems with your ftp site X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:50:27 -0000 Dear Sir or Madam, I tried reaching ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like to download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular behaviour, and in any case, is there a way to download these images? NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I think. Regards, Nino Ivanov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:51:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FF216A476 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BC713C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so190727nfc for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:51:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nzbVMfoKrddQ1qRUGj9rcK43H2AkUX2ipB3VHfeM80ccdsQXavCtzv6sZhr5i8rsnC1hItukNcGvywC/ChVqqTkzsWMkNqzxhGOmMXsjhbcXUbXNkKfKcu7+xROb+AIOXjy/mbidjwTQbhapVEdnyhQe8c6lJZbANBcUkyoaiXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZRPtLMjNc1weWwYg6/Oiop1xSGVIWa94JrkGQEXLe6RGbZVcfR/gtXdJfSVm5CoL9PybzfOZsYtO4mPcrTF6ie/blsnJUd58FvgFnmZlOkfYRucYlMKk3FD5lyjqpAi5qs9plaS4XdiXP1HhVsypTUAOAT4zFknlMjukavgOZqk= Received: by 10.82.108.9 with SMTP id g9mr2904226buc.1174042294288; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [213.47.1.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e9sm6141784muf.2007.03.16.03.51.32; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45FA76B2.8030406@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:51:30 +0100 From: Mike User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> <45FA55FD.70905@freemail.hu> In-Reply-To: <45FA55FD.70905@freemail.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Flash with Firefox 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:51:36 -0000 Nagy László Zsolt wrote: > You need to install the linux version. Flash plugin is not supported > in the FreeBSD version. In Linux compatibility mode, the flash plugin > makes the browser unstable. Too bad. :-( > I found the newest linux Flash plugin (v9) is unstable. However the older one, v7, works fine with linux-firefox for audio and video (I didn't try the microphone or webcam stuff). I am happily running both the Flash 7.0 r69 and Blackdown Java 1.4.2 plugins in Linux Firefox 2.0.0.2. It's not enough to view Flash 8 or later, but it'll work for YouTube and most other sites that use 7 or earlier. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 10:54:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130C216A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3EAA13C43E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:54:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991F41C8375; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:29:33 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Matthias Apitz Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:57:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20070316101633.GB855@pcjas.obspm.fr> <20070316102210.GA4511@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20070316102210.GA4511@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703161257.46953.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Albert Shih Subject: Re: Video capture. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:54:55 -0000 On Friday 16 March 2007 12:22, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Friday, March 16, 2007 a las 11:16:33AM +0100, Albert Shih escribió: > > > Hi all > > > > I search some software can capture all my action on my computer's screen > > directly throught X11 (without sound of course). Something like the > > classic «screenshot» but in video mode. It's for making video help for me > > users. > > > > If it's possible I don't want use external camera. > > Google groups with the words: joana vncserver Also, Port: xvidcap-1.1.4.p1,1 Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/xvidcap Info: Capture your X display to individual frames or MPEG video Maint: thierry@FreeBSD.org Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 11:01:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0253D16A404 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA82A13C45B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:01:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HSABz-0003Bc-DS; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:01:51 +0000 Received: from [62.31.10.181] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HSABy-0006ti-P3; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:01:50 +0000 Message-ID: <45FA791F.2070004@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:01:51 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bram Schoenmakers References: <200703151857.19679.bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl> <200703151437.30390.lists@jnielsen.net> <200703151953.36380.bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <200703151953.36380.bramschoenmakers@xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'nodump' on directories: new contents still dumped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:01:53 -0000 Bram Schoenmakers wrote: >>On Thursday 15 March 2007 13:57, Bram Schoenmakers wrote: >> >> >>>I'm using dump(8) for backing up a FreeBSD 4.10 server. >>> >>> [...] >>>The problem is that new files appearing in the /usr/ports tree (daily >>>portsnap cron) do not have the 'nodump' flag set. But despite the >>>'nodump' flag on the /usr/ports directory, the new files in the tree are >>>still dumped. >>> >>>I understood that dump does not enter directories with 'nodump' flag set, >>>so it shouldn't see the new files inside, right? Or is this behavior >>>implemented in a newer version than FreeBSD 4.10? I have scanned the CVS >>>logs for dump, but couldn't find anything relevant. >>> >>> >-h 0 just works fine, that is not the problem. > >I may have forgotten one detail in case that was not clear. The level 0 backup >does not contain any folder marked with 'nodump' (so it's all OK, despite >the -h0 you mentioned). New contents (which have no flags set) in these >folders emerge in higher level dumps. > >The problem is that dump(8) enters directories with 'nodump' flags set while >it shouldn't. > > I'll second what Wojciech said: I've been using nodump flags for some time and never seen the symptoms you describe. I have just verified that 5.4 does not do this for me - even with /usr/ports which I too neglect to dump! However, you are running an ancient, obsolete version (4.10). Can you try explicitly putting a "-h 0" into your incremental command line and see if that makes a difference? If it still does what you describe, show us the exact command line you are using. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 11:05:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AC816A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAEE13C468 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel.boto@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so524124ana for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:05:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HzXuTA0B5+X1InkPSczOd71azIfJ7XCRZnuFiSJI1nlF+fRm4OpGzgpJ/xGyrwQYOP4OB/xbbyAYsacNg1ft7/Vb/jdfzNr41yiM64MY+dhPKKDMxKSVVzHK8dZ/jJRqUnJZ561rDFlIOT2Wyu67bFP3Y/Wb9OCESyE11kxVmno= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aVR4Efn/OXL/agCCq8vIW+En6hNk+dAogQFqNQ/RU/++MsLWMQGOj8liNgN1du+YuM3NLa9aaPzJLKulnRuRAscRsZuzET6Ftz63hYjbvJh7Fee3kLokoayxw/3GC1nWsOH7c+BxsY6seN0++PPOGUMA2yodZWUPCA+i908sAWY= Received: by 10.100.124.5 with SMTP id w5mr1357580anc.1174043128692; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [213.47.1.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 59sm3612500ugf.2007.03.16.04.05.26; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45FA79F5.2070003@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:05:25 +0100 From: Mike User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> <000001c767b7$5e92e5f0$5300000a@HAL9000> In-Reply-To: <000001c767b7$5e92e5f0$5300000a@HAL9000> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problems with your ftp site X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:05:31 -0000 Nino Ivanov wrote: > Dear Sir or Madam, > > I tried reaching > > ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ > > from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to > input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like to > download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular behaviour, > and in any case, is there a way to download these images? > > No, there is a problem. This shouldn't happen normally: Name (ftp-archive.freebsd.org:porridge): anonymous 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. Password: 530 Login incorrect. ftp: Login failed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 11:07:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3B516A40A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A47F813C44B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Mar 2007 11:07:27 -0000 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1859+VcWjw5W9POHOvun3OeBix+6wczM+MZhingo8 8mxKAH4Kir+/kb From: "Nino Ivanov" To: "'Josh Paetzel'" , References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:07:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c767bb$486f56b0$5300000a@HAL9000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdnVk9h37vxhJFhQ6i6pIvz2eOuhwAZMMXA In-Reply-To: <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: 'Kris Kennaway' Subject: AW: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: niivanov@gmx.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:07:29 -0000 I tried to send to freebsd-questions the following twice, and twice = failed!: Dear Sir or Madam, I tried reaching ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like = to download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular = behaviour, and in any case, is there a way to download these images? NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I think. Regards, Nino Ivanov -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Josh Paetzel [mailto:josh@tcbug.org]=20 Gesendet: Freitag, 16. M=E4rz 2007 00:05 An: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Kris Kennaway; Nino Ivanov Betreff: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem On Thursday 15 March 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:43:32PM +0100, Nino Ivanov wrote: > > Dear Chistian, Dear Kris, > > > > I also think the RAM will not be the issue, as it is a text-only > > install, and indeed, I am not planning to "get fancy". I > > completely don't need X. Midnight Commander is perfectly fine as > > a working environment. 4.11 seemed OK. > > > > But I am having a different problem right now, which I am still > > researching: It does not recognize the device from where to mount > > root correctly. I mean the following: When I put FreeBSD into the > > Compaq for installation, the harddrive is ad4 or ad8. But in the > > system where I want to run it, the HP Omnibook, it is ad0. > > > > Now, when I start it back in the HP Omnibook, it says that swap > > is not configured correctly on ad8s-something. Which is true, it > > should look for it on ad0... I have only once been able till now > > to mount root. (And this is my basis for assuming that even 4.11 > > CAN potentially run.) I said as command ufs:/dev/ad0 when it > > asked me where to mount root from. This worked, however, e.g. > > ufs:/dev/ad0s1 did not work. I am thinking that I might have made > > a mistake, and should have said ad0s1a. > > > > Yet, the principal new problem persists: FreeBSD does not realize > > that it should now look at ad0 instead of ad4 or ad8. (However, > > in the booting process, it correctly "sees" ad0 as having 325 MB > > etc.) Is there a way to solve this? > > Probably the /etc/fstab is wrong and refers to the ad4 or ad8 > devices. The root should indeed typically be ufs:/dev/ad0s1a. > > Kris I'm a tad confused, as I thought we were talking about FBSD 2.x, which=20 would've called your drive wd0, not ad0. But Kris is correct in that=20 your fstab is wrong...your /boot/loader.conf probably has the wrong=20 root device as well. --=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 11:14:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DB016A408 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62201.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62201.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.74.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09A3513C469 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16333 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2007 11:14:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=BiDOuf3r6tpVa6otrOmRqokJUcH61OXcomoGsXWALETZ3vWeu9sIuz0p2+2ptbTtEdZ1XyCYLvg4jxr1/aAW2e8enWHbdHQEAqQMb3qCvCT8uVK77Udy3zK7Ow8eJDyfl0uVorRka++qzqLligZoLqVPNq6Rvx/UgVxC9jbGKiA=; X-YMail-OSG: dsdpknMVM1mTbxrprd7mFvLBAmk38ropkU5Gs6zSnTMqRkuh8gB9cD9FwO1DggclfQ-- Received: from [66.82.9.65] by web62201.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:14:09 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/471 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:14:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <137601.15953.qm@web62201.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:14:10 -0000 Well, that's what I thought, I just wanted to be sure. I've done that once = before. As I recall, there was a very long string of questions I had to ans= wer at one point. I pretty much just told the system not to change things, = go with defaults, etc. That's the safest bet, right? This is similar to rei= nstalling Windoze on top of an existing installation, right?=0ATIA,=0ADrew= =0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Christian Walther =0ATo: Drew Jenkins =0ACc: freebsd-questions@= freebsd.org=0ASent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:45:40 AM=0ASubject: Re: Corrup= ted OS=0A=0AOn 16/03/07, Drew Jenkins wrote:=0A> = 23Hi;=0A> Is it possible to rebuild an OS without reformatting the hard dri= ve? I have FBSD6.2, so I can't upgrade.=0A=0AWhat are you trying to do? You= could always go to /usr/src and do a=0Amake buildworld, which would rebuil= d the entire FreeBSD userland.=0APorts can be rebuilt, too, for example by = doing a portupgrade -afk=0A=0A> TIA,=0A> Drew=0A=0AChristian=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A =0A______________________________________________________________= ______________________=0ADon't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the foreca= st=0Awith the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut.=0Ahttp://tools.search.yahoo.c= om/shortcuts/#loc_weather From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 11:14:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB68716A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7939913C480 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD201C8C8A; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:49:06 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:17:20 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <1173883472.50942.21.camel@bert.mlan.solnet.ch> In-Reply-To: <1173883472.50942.21.camel@bert.mlan.solnet.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703161317.20404.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Thomas Vogt Subject: Re: bcwipe doesn't wipe any block device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:14:24 -0000 On Wednesday 14 March 2007 16:44, Thomas Vogt wrote: > Hello > > Has someone ever tried to wipe a block device on freebsd 6.2 with > bcwipe? > > I tried > bcwipe -bvmd /dev/aacd1 > > I get: > Writing to /dev/aacd1: Invalid argument > I tried slices too but it i got the same error. > > dd can overwrite my disk several times but perhaps someone can give me a > hint how to wipe a disk with bcwipe. It must be the way it access the device, that causes the problem. I suggest trying the following: 1) Create a filesystem covering the whole disk, 2) Fill up the disk creating a file the size of the filesystem on it. 3) have bcwipe operate on the file instead of the raw device. I assume it does this. I am not familiar with bcwipe... Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 11:29:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702FA16A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4328F13C46E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from c-68-49-149-185.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([68.49.149.185] helo=schnarff.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HSAcR-0005ZO-Nk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:29:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 4189 invoked by uid 67); 16 Mar 2007 11:29:07 -0000 Received: from 192.168.2.68 ([192.168.2.68]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:29:07 -0400 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 68.49.149.185 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: schnarff Message-ID: <20070316072907.3qjda836884cg08g@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:29:07 -0400 From: alex@schnarff.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070315164706.4fy8vlmhw00kk4s8@mail.schnarff.com> <20070315210957.GF71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070315211624.GA89114@xor.obsecurity.org> <45FA1325.6020409@u.washington.edu> <20070316051445.GA93327@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20070316051445.GA93327@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) Subject: Re: Should I Upgrade 5.4 -> 6.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:29:13 -0000 Quoting Kris Kennaway : > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:46:45PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 05:09:57PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> >>On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 04:47:06PM -0400, alex@schnarff.com wrote: >> >> >> >>>First off, I want to thank the people who responded to my thread >> >>>"Stability Issues on a 5.4-RELEASE box" a couple of weeks ago; after >> >>>disabling hyperthreading, getting a clean run of Memtest back, and >> >>>doing some serious fsck'ing of the disks, the box appears to now be >> >>>completely stable. I'm still not sure which of the above fixed the >> >>>problem...but I'll take a stable system at this point. :-) >> >>> >> >>>That said, in that thread I had asked about the advisability of >> >>>upgrading to 6.2, and it was intelligently pointed out that doing so in >> >>>pursuit of stability was a bad idea. Now that the box is stable, >> >>>though, I'm back to the same question: should I make the upgrade, and >> >>>if so, how should I do it? >> >>> >> >>>My primary driver for doing so would be to keep current enough that I'm >> >>>still getting security and other patches on a regular basis, and that I >> >>>can upgrade my applications from ports as necessary. If this is not an >> >>>issue, then my only remaining concern would be that it's usually easier >> >>>to get support on lists like this if you're running a modern version of >> >>>the OS (that's certainly the case with the OpenBSD folks). >> >>> >> >>>My primary concern with upgrading is that the box is in Portland, OR, >> >>>and I'm in Arlington, VA...and while the ISP is friendly, I doubt that >> >>>I could count on them for major system recovery if I botch something >> >>>during the upgrade. My other worry is that I don't want to break >> >>>existing apps if possible (the main one I'm concerned about is >> >>>Zope/Plone). This is a production box with moderate traffic, and it >> >>>would be a problem if there was extensive downtime. >> >>> >> >>>Is it worth upgrading? If so, what's the best way to do so -- CVSup, or >> >>>some other way? Are there any major caveats if I do choose to upgrade >> >>>(or choose to stay with the existing OS)? >> >>You should if you can reasonably do it, for the reasons you give plus >> >>improvements in performance and in some utilities. >> >> >> >>My sentiment is usually to do a clean install over major version numbers. >> >>It tends to leave less dross laying around. but I do not have to worry >> >>about down times very much, a couple of hours at night is not terribly >> >>noticable in my stuff. It does require more time down to do a clean >> >>from scratch install. But, I think you can get away with a cvsup >> >>upgrade from 5.4 to 6.2. Then your downtime is just the reboot and >> >>stuff at single user (mergemaster), plus probably some for upgrading >> >>various ports. >> > >> >Yes, a source upgrade from 5.x to 6.x (followed by portupgrade -fa) >> >isn't too bad. As with any upgrade you do need a recovery strategy >> >though. >> > >> >Kris >> >> I agree with both Kris and Jerry. Besides, if you run 6.2 you're running >> a supported version of FreeBSD whereas 5.4 isn't supported anymore (5.5 >> is the last supported version in the legacy 5.x branch). Plus there are >> slight improvements from 5.x to 6.x. > > s/slight/major/ ;) Thanks everyone for the replies. Lucky for me, I just had a benefactor pop up and offer to pay for a new machine, which will allow me to lay the OS down cleanly and then use the existing system as a backup/test lab in the future. So thank heavens, the point is essentially moot. :-) Alex Kirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 11:48:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28B116A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bconway@clue4all.net) Received: from alnrmhc13.comcast.net (alnrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.225.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B8713C483 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bconway@clue4all.net) Received: from ladyluck.clue4all.net (c-24-218-44-66.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[24.218.44.66]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20070316114825b1300qingre>; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:48:26 +0000 Received: from ladyluck.clue4all.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ladyluck.clue4all.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 48C282D4118; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:48:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:48:25 -0400 From: "Brian J. Conway" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Message-Id: <20070316074825.3b39e840.bconway@clue4all.net> In-Reply-To: <020501c767a3$02f10ab0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <20070310105759.6980f90e.bconway@clue4all.net> <007b01c76538$03b2ec60$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20070315071343.7763a3ab.bconway@clue4all.net> <020501c767a3$02f10ab0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Organization: Clue 4 All, Inc. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:48:26 -0000 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:13:41 -0800 "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian J. Conway" > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:13 AM > Subject: Re: Periodic xl watchdog timeouts on 6.2-RELEASE > > > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:22:44 -0800 > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > > > > I have found with some of the intel MBs that the latest BIOS update > > > actually causes trouble. Don't be afraid to try back-flashing to an > > > older BIOS update. Intel has all the BIOS versions up on their site > > > for each board. > > > > > > Ted > > > > Tried a few things in the past couple days: > > > > - Set the interfaces to not auto-negotiate and hard-coded them: No > > change. - Tried the past 3 BIOS revisions I had been using previously: > > No change. > > > > Next up, started swapping around cards. I noticed that one of my 3 > > 3c905C cards hadn't been giving the watchdog timeout errors that I > > could remember, even though I'm doubting 2/3 of my previously-good > > cards are actually bad, but I kept that one at xl1 and tried a good > > 3c905B as xl0. This worked a little differently, now instead of > > watchdog timeouts, on the previously-normal xl1 I get: > > > > Mar 15 05:56:51 imogen kernel: xl1: transmission error: 90 > > Mar 15 05:56:51 imogen kernel: xl1: tx underrun, increasing tx start > > threshold to 120 bytes > > > > I know it's *technically* an informational message and not a problem, > > I'm a perfectionist and would prefer it not to be there. > > I didn't know you had multiple 3com cards so I didn't mention this > earlier, but you will find the 3com cards with the WHITE label on the > card to work better than the ones with the YELLOW label. It's a chipset > revision thing. It also happens under some versions of Linux. > > The underrun error is perfectly fine and can be ignored. I have gotten > them myself with no ill effects. You will not be able to fix this > message. It will go > away once the driver has increased the buffer enough. > > Ted Interesting. I swapped in a 4th 905C that I procurred alongside my 905B (white label) and still get only the underrun messages on xl1, so it looks good. I'll keep around those first two cards that gave the watchdog timeouts for later testing. Thanks. Brian J. Conway From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 11:59:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BBF16A405 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AE013C459 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 217C937F7D; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:59:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1294D37F53; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:59:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81-231-90-251-no41.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.90.251]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976A037E4C; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:59:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45FA86BB.6030108@passagen.se> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:59:55 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Jenkins References: <683651.79176.qm@web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <683651.79176.qm@web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:59:57 -0000 Hello Drew, The procedure is described in the handbook chapter 21. May I suggest that you look at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html In your case, if you don't want to upgrade your source code, you could probably skip to chapter 21.4 and also skip the buildkernel and mergemaster steps. I am assuming you have the source code to buildworld in /usr/src/? Good luck! Drew Jenkins skrev: > 23Hi; > Is it possible to rebuild an OS without reformatting the hard drive? I have FBSD6.2, so I can't upgrade. > TIA, > Drew > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 12:59:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300FA16A407 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from spamfirewall.msdsky.com (spamfirewall.msdsky.com [64.18.66.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A2B13C487 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:59:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1174049952-4cc900400000-jLrpzn X-Barracuda-URL: http://spamfirewall.msdsky.com:80/cgi-bin/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Connect: unknown[64.18.67.9] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1174049952 Received: from mail02.msdihosting.net (unknown [64.18.67.9]) by spamfirewall.msdsky.com (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id D63A1B2D6; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ian ([70.83.204.175]) by mail02.msdihosting.net ((iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003))) with ASMTP id QRI44553; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:59:18 -0400 From: "Ian Lord" To: , "'Josh Paetzel'" , References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> <000801c767bb$486f56b0$5300000a@HAL9000> In-Reply-To: <000801c767bb$486f56b0$5300000a@HAL9000> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:58:00 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01c767ca$bc847300$358d5900$@ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcdnVk9h37vxhJFhQ6i6pIvz2eOuhwAZMMXAAAPeu+A= Content-Language: fr-ca X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at msdsky.com Cc: 'Kris Kennaway' Subject: RE: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:59:14 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Nino Ivanov Sent: 16 mars 2007 07:07 To: 'Josh Paetzel'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: 'Kris Kennaway' Subject: AW: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem I tried to send to freebsd-questions the following twice, and twice failed!: Dear Sir or Madam, I tried reaching ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like to download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular behaviour, and in any case, is there a way to download these images? NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I think. Regards, Nino Ivanov Lol :) In Ie7, just click the "log on anonymously" checkbox and press login From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 13:05:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B589116A407 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from mail.applied-epistemics.com (mail.applied-epistemics.com [65.39.221.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9390713C458 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from homebase.tcbug.org (c-75-72-199-210.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.72.199.210]) by mail.applied-epistemics.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324F9633004; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:05:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Josh Paetzel To: "Ian Lord" Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:05:00 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000801c767bb$486f56b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000b01c767ca$bc847300$358d5900$@ca> In-Reply-To: <000b01c767ca$bc847300$358d5900$@ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703160805.00212.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: 'Kris Kennaway' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, niivanov@gmx.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:05:01 -0000 On Friday 16 March 2007, Ian Lord wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Nino > Ivanov Sent: 16 mars 2007 07:07 > To: 'Josh Paetzel'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: 'Kris Kennaway' > Subject: AW: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem > > I tried to send to freebsd-questions the following twice, and twice > failed!: > > Dear Sir or Madam, > > I tried reaching > > ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ > > from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires > me to input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I > would like to download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some > new regular behaviour, and in any case, is there a way to download > these images? > > NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I > think. > > Regards, > > Nino Ivanov > > Lol :) > > In Ie7, just click the "log on anonymously" checkbox and press > login anonymous logins seem to be broken. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 13:13:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794ED16A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62215.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62215.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 449AF13C448 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 48287 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2007 13:13:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=fy++0yrHVLSktY5E3qQB74lq8MsfrFzDP0KAxresDhfIyZ8Hw5niU6AEZ1O/c0j19lnjVkGsJ5o7LMIt5T41yDvcAdIKNaHqhR0tGhFBK5M1ndBZAj4QoPDuJvXVAZ21TS6aVWRA0dmGiYWZ7tJxvKVzK1qr4hDgq15WjsxpnFM=; Received: from [69.19.14.33] by web62215.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:13:30 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/471 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:13:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <743226.43661.qm@web62215.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:13:31 -0000 How do I know the kernel has not become corrupted? Actually, as I think abo= ut it, I should probably rebuild the kernel anyway to work with packet filt= ers. Here are my notes from the last time I updated:=0A=0A/usr/src/UPDATING= and /usr/src/Makefile?=0A=0AI'm not sure what I mean by the above, but sho= uld I use the Makefile and not UPDATING?=0A=0Asynch your source to 6.2 =0A= =0AHow? And is this necessary since it's already at 6.2?=0A=0Acvsup -g -L 2= supfile=0Acd /usr/src=0Amake clean;make cleanworld=0Amake buildworld=0Acd = /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/=0A# back up any custom config there is=0Acp GENERIC= BACKUP_CONFIG=0Acd /usr/src=0Amake buildkernel KERNCONF=3DLOCAL # use this= from now on!=0Amake installkernel KERNCONF=3DLOCAL # use this from now on!= =0A# Note: LOCAL is a copy of GENERIC in the same folder (/usr/src/sys/i386= /conf/GENERIC)=0A# with changes for pf as follows:=0A# # Packet Filters=0A#= device pf=0A# device pflog=0A# device pfsync=0A# options ALTQ=0A# = options ALTQ_CBQ # Class Bases Queuing (CBQ)=0A# options = ALTQ_RED # Random Early Detection (RED)=0A# options ALT= Q_RIO # RED In/Out=0A# options ALTQ_HFSC # Hierarchica= l Packet Scheduler (HFSC)=0A# options ALTQ_PRIQ # Priority Qu= euing (PRIQ)=0Ash /etc/rc.shutdown # kills all your services=0A= pkill sendmail=0Apkill syslogd=0Amergemaster -p=0Amake installworld=0Amerge= master=0Areboot=0A/usr/local/bin/portmanager -u -f -l -y=0Amake delete-old-= libs=0A=0AWhat happens if my internet connection dies when I'm doing this? = Will I still be able to SSH into my box?=0ATIA,=0ADrew=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A_____= ___________________________________________________________________________= ____=0AWe won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love =0A(and love to ha= te): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.=0Ahttp://tv.yahoo.com/collections/2= 65 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 13:37:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842A016A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from srvdmz13.oekb.co.at (srvdmz13.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFFF13C4B8 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-SEF-Processed: 5_0_0_910__2007_03_16_14_37_38 X-SEF-7853D99-ADF1-478E-8894-213D316B8FFA: 1 Received: from msc01-n1 [143.245.2.187] by srvdmz13.oekb.co.at - SurfControl E-mail Filter (5.2.1); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:37:38 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:37:39 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost.oekb.co.at [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2GDbcK1003505; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:37:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2GDbcuM003504; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:37:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:37:38 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20070316133738.GA3288@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> <01fc01c767a2$1e522010$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01fc01c767a2$1e522010$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2007 13:37:39.0179 (UTC) FILETIME=[43CE23B0:01C767D0] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build your own ISO-install-CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:37:40 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:07:17AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > ... > > The process is long and complex. You don't want to do it if you can help > it. > If people beg me on this list I'll post the step by step I use but trust me > you > really really don't want to do this unless absolutely necessary. Hi Ted, I suppose this might be of interest to others too, so maybe you could post your "receipe" here? > > Here is the easy way to fix this. > > 1) Burn a CD with the new driver > > 2) Boot off a regular install ISO and install your system plus kernel > sources > > 3) Mount the burned CD and copy the new driver to the kernel > source location it is supposed to be at > > 4) Recompile kernel and your in business. > Nice "shortcut-tip"! :-) Guess copying the complete /usr/src via CD to the target machine would even be better given the lot of mods that went into the system and kernel since 6.2 has been released. Thanks for your hints! -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 13:42:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0FA16A405 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CDF13C489 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2GDfwrr083284; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:41:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45FA9EA0.1000300@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:41:52 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Jenkins References: <743226.43661.qm@web62215.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <743226.43661.qm@web62215.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:42:02 -0000 Drew Jenkins wrote: > How do I know the kernel has not become corrupted? Actually, as I think about it, I > should probably rebuild the kernel anyway to work with packet filters. > Here are my notes from the last time I updated: > > /usr/src/UPDATING and /usr/src/Makefile? > > I'm not sure what I mean by the above, but should I use the Makefile and not UPDATING? You meant to remind yourself to read those files. Esp. UPDATING. > synch your source to 6.2 > > How? And is this necessary since it's already at 6.2? The command below, "cvsup -g -L 2 supfile". Assuming, of course, that the supfile is valid. Is it necessary? Depends; if you're convinced that something is wrong with your current installation, then you might not need to, because you can rebuild exactly the system that you *should* have (for example, perhaps you fat-fingered a chmod or rm call?). OTOH, if you are attempting to get "up to date" on security fixes, etc., then you should read up on "the Cutting Edge" so that you understand the CVS tags, and use cvsup as shown below. Be *certain* you have the CVS tag you really want in the supfile before you press enter, though. Now, if you think that the system is corrupt because your source tree is corrupt, then you would also want to sync your source tree. Of course, why would it be corrupt? If a committer made an error, you'd probably see some discussion of it on this list of the stable@ list. > cvsup -g -L 2 supfile > cd /usr/src > make clean;make cleanworld I never do this, and am not really familiar with that target. Same as `rm -rf /usr/obj`, perhaps? I'll have to check, heh.... > make buildworld OK. Actually might need "mergemaster -p" before this on some occasions, but if you're not technically *updating* (i.e., you aren't getting new source code via cvsup), it shouldn't be an issue, but this is where it's supposed to go, not where you have it below. > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ > # back up any custom config there is > cp GENERIC BACKUP_CONFIG > cd /usr/src > make buildkernel KERNCONF=LOCAL # use this from now on! > make installkernel KERNCONF=LOCAL # use this from now on! > # Note: LOCAL is a copy of GENERIC in the same folder (/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC) > # with changes for pf as follows: > # # Packet Filters > # device pf > # device pflog > # device pfsync > # options ALTQ > # options ALTQ_CBQ # Class Bases Queuing (CBQ) > # options ALTQ_RED # Random Early Detection (RED) > # options ALTQ_RIO # RED In/Out > # options ALTQ_HFSC # Hierarchical Packet Scheduler (HFSC) > # options ALTQ_PRIQ # Priority Queuing (PRIQ) OK, that's fine. This next stuff is a tad strange, any reason you can't just "shutdown -r now"? The point is to attempt to boot with the new kernel, and going to single-user at this point doesn't do that. > sh /etc/rc.shutdown # kills all your services > pkill sendmail > pkill syslogd > mergemaster -p As noted above, this ("mergemaster -p") is actually meant to be done "pre-buildworld" ... see mergemaster(8). Now, after the reboot (and technically, you're supposed to be in single-user now, but I've found on lower-traffic boxes it's generally not necessary for me to do that) you do this: > make installworld > mergemaster And you have a rebuilt system, kernel and userland. > reboot A reboot is not needed at this point, because you did it above. > /usr/local/bin/portmanager -u -f -l -y > make delete-old-libs This is about ports, so a different subject. ;-) > What happens if my internet connection dies when > I'm doing this? Will I still be able to SSH into my box? Err, my first thought was, what kind of a question is that? Without an internet connection you can't use SSH ;-) Thinking a tad more clearly, I suppose you mean, since the process of upgrading (buildworld, installworld, whatever) is attached to my terminal (which is an SSH session), what happens if I'm disconnected - will my upgrade continue? The answer is that it will not continue unless you've planned for that possibility. Are you familiar with job control, e.g.: $ make buildworld & HTH, Kevin Kinsey -- A real diplomat is one who can cut his neighbor's throat without having his neighbor notice it. -- Trygve Lie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 13:56:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C68816A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ewald.Jenisch@oekb.at) Received: from srvdmz13.oekb.co.at (srvdmz13.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684A213C45B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ewald.Jenisch@oekb.at) X-SEF-Processed: 5_0_0_910__2007_03_16_13_56_01 X-SEF-7853D99-ADF1-478E-8894-213D316B8FFA: 1 Received: from msc01-n1 [143.245.2.187] by srvdmz13.oekb.co.at - SurfControl E-mail Filter (5.2.1); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:56:01 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:56:01 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost.oekb.co.at [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2GCu0XF003177; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:56:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ej@aurora.oekb.co.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2GCtxxO003176; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:55:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ej@aurora.oekb.co.at) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:55:59 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20070316125559.GA2726@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> <01fc01c767a2$1e522010$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01fc01c767a2$1e522010$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG X-Phone: +43 1 53127-2175 X-Fax: +43 1 53127-4175 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2007 12:56:01.0381 (UTC) FILETIME=[73006950:01C767CA] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build your own ISO-install-CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:56:43 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:07:17AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > ... > > The process is long and complex. You don't want to do it if you can help > it. > If people beg me on this list I'll post the step by step I use but trust me > you > really really don't want to do this unless absolutely necessary. Hi Ted, I suppose this might be of interest to others too, so maybe you could post your "receipe" here? > > Here is the easy way to fix this. > > 1) Burn a CD with the new driver > > 2) Boot off a regular install ISO and install your system plus kernel > sources > > 3) Mount the burned CD and copy the new driver to the kernel > source location it is supposed to be at > > 4) Recompile kernel and your in business. > Nice "shortcut-tip"! :-) Guess copying the complete /usr/src via CD to the target machine would even be better given the lot of mods that went into the system and kernel since 6.2 has been released. Thanks for your hints! -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:08:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D34116A406 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lmasini@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D765E13C480 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lmasini@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA8369D4D63 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:45:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [85.180.137.235] (helo=[192.168.0.44]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1HSCkj-0003Um-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:45:53 +0100 Message-ID: <45FA9CC0.4070200@web.de> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:33:52 +0100 From: Luca Masini User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: lmasini@web.de X-Sender: lmasini@web.de Subject: config version = 600003, version required = 600004 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luca Masini List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:08:56 -0000 Hi, I tried to compile a reference GENERIC kernel from 7-CURRENT as explainde in an article. I downloaded the CVS repository and then co a local copy of 7-CURRENT in a user directory (as explained etc.) When I try $ config GENERIC I get the message ERROR: version of config(8) does not match kernel! config version = 600003, version required = 600004 Make sure that /usr/src/usr.sbin/config is in sync with your /usr/src/sys and install a new config binary before trying this again. I suppose I need to upgrade the config that come with 7-CURRENT ? (or can I upgrade the one of the installed system?) The question is: How is the correct way to do this upgrade ? Thanks. Luca. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:11:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF65C16A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BE413C45B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFF951931 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:11:55 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070316141155.01cc0cc9@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20070316105556.M73074@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <7f391ef40703151516pc99d198v66bc2fcca81fc319@mail.gmail.com> <20070315232705.00003058@shire> <20070316105556.M73074@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DNS configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:11:59 -0000 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:56:31 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >> but i don't know how to configure DNS . plz .. ? > > > > Read the same handbook as adviced earlier. And for DNS the O'Reilly > > book is great. DNS is no toy. It should be handled with great care. > > The internet depends on it. > > > exactly. it's quite easy to make domains not synchronize to slaves > right etc. without being careful Since he's at the stage of setting an IP address and a default route, I'd be pretty surprized if he's asking about Bind. See the Handbook: 11.10.2.1 /etc/resolv.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:16:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B261916A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62209.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62209.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 682C713C45E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 59398 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2007 14:16:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=bHyeEYc7mS0n/KFFuHvddgCO/IB9y2oggirxRVCgxA/rLhzbo1tjeLceNsQNAteOj3myDSNt63KAcTPkJYaeC1RoDMR8GMxvskhw2n+qqvQeQaD3iNSmt5qMJjKQY6CstUMq6FhFG4u6RSBXqK26PLIALJHvo0RaTK59T7XXCi4=; X-YMail-OSG: kmnkQ70VM1n5bHL.JnMsNlU4EeuyKvrlK65CV1GeIVqaYMPfHlDS7VGyA2Bij6sYJmezxqbIkGmGs1BdxA_VQSzWFlknN1gpC2HqNkOZWxnH3a42AZ91NEawi1wVqOvb Received: from [69.19.14.39] by web62209.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:16:33 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:16:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45FA9EA0.1000300@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <847677.58578.qm@web62209.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:16:34 -0000 2Kevin Kinsey wrote:> > synch your source to 6.2 > > > > How? And is this necessary since it's already at 6.2? > > The command below, "cvsup -g -L 2 supfile". Assuming, of > course, that > the supfile is valid. Is it necessary? Depends; if you're convinced > that something is wrong with your current installation, then you might > not need to, because you can rebuild exactly the system that you > *should* have (for example, perhaps you fat-fingered a chmod or rm > call?). Yes. The system was working fine. The problem is with an extra HD I have that I told the server farm to check out thoroughly before installing it in the new server because I knew it had a problem. They said they did....and didn't. So that's what corrupted the system again...exactly the same way it did before, too. But yes, the system was working fine before I had data files on the HD in question linked to s/w on the SCSI hard drives. > OTOH, if you are attempting to get "up to date" on security > fixes, etc., then you should read up on "the Cutting Edge" so that you > understand the CVS tags, and use cvsup as shown below. Well, it never hurts to get up to date on security, does it? Where do I find this cutting edge? > Be *certain* you > have the CVS tag you really want in the supfile before you press enter, > though. Will that be outlined in the cutting edge, or elsewhere? > Now, if you think that the system is corrupt because your source tree is > corrupt, then you would also want to sync your source tree. Of course, > why would it be corrupt? If a committer made an error, you'd probably > see some discussion of it on this list of the stable@ list. The HD zapped two data files--MySQL and a Zope instance Data.fs--and that's what caused the problem both times. I doubt this would have hurt the source tree. Your thoughts? > OK, that's fine. This next stuff is a tad strange, any reason you can't > just "shutdown -r now"? The point is to attempt to boot with the new > kernel, and going to single-user at this point doesn't do that. I need to avoid single user mode, as you probably recognize, since the machine is on the other side of the planet. The below worked when I upgraded once from 5.5 to 6.1. > > sh /etc/rc.shutdown # kills all your services > > pkill sendmail > > pkill syslogd > > mergemaster -p > > As noted above, this ("mergemaster -p") is actually meant to be done > "pre-buildworld" ... see mergemaster(8). In other words, it's not necessary since I'm just rebuilding what I already have, right? > Thinking a tad more clearly, I suppose you mean, since the process of > upgrading (buildworld, installworld, whatever) is attached to my > terminal (which is an SSH session), what happens if I'm disconnected - > will my upgrade continue? No, what I mean is if my connection gets dropped. > The answer is that it will not continue unless you've planned for that > possibility. Are you familiar with job control, e.g.: > $ make buildworld & Ah! Good idea! So just use the old "&" symbol. How do I know when it's finished? Putting jobs in the background, one can't see their progress, that is, I don't know how to monitor it if it's not flashing before my face ;) And that's the only place I have to put a job in the background? Reviewing my notes again, that wouldn't be necessary for any of the following? make clean;make cleanworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=LOCAL make installkernel KERNCONF=LOCAL make installworld ...and I don't need this either, since I'm not doing mergmaster at all, right? mergemaster TIA, Drew --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:28:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018F316A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B787513C46A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GERau6075482; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:27:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2GERaJw075481; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:27:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:27:36 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Nino Ivanov Message-ID: <20070316142736.GA75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> <000001c767b7$5e92e5f0$5300000a@HAL9000> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c767b7$5e92e5f0$5300000a@HAL9000> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with your ftp site X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:28:05 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 11:39:25AM +0100, Nino Ivanov wrote: > > Dear Sir or Madam, > > I tried reaching > > ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ > > from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to > input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like to > download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular behaviour, > and in any case, is there a way to download these images? This is an anonymous ftp site. So, when it asks for login id, give it anonymous When it asks for password, give it your email address. Then it should work fine. ////jerry > > NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I think. > > Regards, > > Nino Ivanov > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:29:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C0316A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4BB13C457 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GESZNh075496; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:28:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2GESZcR075495; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:28:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:28:35 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ian Lord Message-ID: <20070316142835.GB75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> <000801c767bb$486f56b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000b01c767ca$bc847300$358d5900$@ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000b01c767ca$bc847300$358d5900$@ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 'Josh Paetzel' , 'Kris Kennaway' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, niivanov@gmx.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:29:03 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 08:58:00AM -0400, Ian Lord wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Nino Ivanov > Sent: 16 mars 2007 07:07 > To: 'Josh Paetzel'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: 'Kris Kennaway' > Subject: AW: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem > > I tried to send to freebsd-questions the following twice, and twice failed!: Looks like both were posted. Why would you think it failed? ////jerry > > Dear Sir or Madam, > > I tried reaching > > ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ > > from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to > input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like to > download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular behaviour, > and in any case, is there a way to download these images? > > NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I think. > > Regards, > > Nino Ivanov > > Lol :) > > In Ie7, just click the "log on anonymously" checkbox and press login > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:31:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590F016A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7CE13C448 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0529B51931 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:31:53 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070316143153.5c04fdd7@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <847677.58578.qm@web62209.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <45FA9EA0.1000300@daleco.biz> <847677.58578.qm@web62209.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:31:58 -0000 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Drew Jenkins wrote: > Well, it never hurts to get up to date on security, does it? Where do > I find this cutting edge? It's a badly named chapter in the handbook, but the process for following a security branch is the same as tracking a development branch. BTW if you are just rebuilding, or picking up minor changes on a security branch, there is no need for mergemaster. I don't bother with single user mode either, since so little's changing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:43:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670DE16A405 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3752C13C457 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GEhdeu018341 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:43:39 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GEhdbb028006 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:43:39 -0700 Message-ID: <45FAAD1A.100@u.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:43:38 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070316) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <683651.79176.qm@web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <14989d6e0703160345p386ccf4em673635e6f56b1324@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0703160345p386ccf4em673635e6f56b1324@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.16.73434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:43:40 -0000 Christian Walther wrote: > On 16/03/07, Drew Jenkins wrote: >> 23Hi; >> Is it possible to rebuild an OS without reformatting the hard drive? I >> have FBSD6.2, so I can't upgrade. > > What are you trying to do? You could always go to /usr/src and do a > make buildworld, which would rebuild the entire FreeBSD userland. > Ports can be rebuilt, too, for example by doing a portupgrade -afk > >> TIA, >> Drew > > Christian Drew, Depends on how "corrupted" it is. Could you provide details? Thanks, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:48:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E0716A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9190C13C45D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 76058 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2007 14:48:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=WRJiP0c2n8D1H2sId3/FbnUp293Ie4CpNcm1pHz3m5N4Ipl5myJdNU8EfxwvfFu8PiLlq2yppwh6Od83A7azjemdF4i8zvBo0a21gLMoVq+dTXkTUoR48bNk0zJe9wTRjOoYEwEodVlp6H3iVkKIMCG9JpqbK3euio6V846eUR8=; X-YMail-OSG: UKrKZ1cVM1mTuXJgQJHfBLJqnhUf6R0iba8AY0LTwztcCFY9gutMa8W8xX1DJLQdFNBFZMSlVPmqQ56nzs1xNu2TaEXL28v3A1_Ter.loBvHjfa7Tc3pOi7eIGN1NwkMUMfFNQ-- Received: from [69.19.14.39] by web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:48:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/471 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:48:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <951548.74410.qm@web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:48:38 -0000 Thanks :)=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: RW =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Friday, March 16, 2007 = 10:31:53 AM=0ASubject: Re: Corrupted OS=0A=0AOn Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:16:33 -= 0700 (PDT)=0ADrew Jenkins wrote:=0A=0A=0A> Well, = it never hurts to get up to date on security, does it? Where do=0A> I find = this cutting edge?=0A=0AIt's a badly named chapter in the handbook, but the= process for=0Afollowing a security branch is the same as tracking a develo= pment=0Abranch.=0A=0ABTW if you are just rebuilding, or picking up minor ch= anges on a=0Asecurity branch, there is no need for mergemaster. I don't bot= her with=0Asingle user mode either, since so little's changing.=0A_________= ______________________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mail= ing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo= unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A_______________________________________________= _____________________________________=0ANever miss an email again!=0AYahoo!= Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives.=0Ahttp://tools.search.yah= oo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:51:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561EB16A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E8013C44C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3C0519D8 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:51:17 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070316145117.35006906@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703142345p518938a4h9aa02edfe0182b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f391ef40703142345p518938a4h9aa02edfe0182b3@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: squid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:51:22 -0000 On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:45:22 +0000 "neo neo" wrote: > How to configure to use my FreeBSD as a proxy with Squid ? Just install it and read the notes that are printed-out at the end of the install. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:53:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4157A16A408 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2C213C484 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GEqmvi075665; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:52:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2GEqmGf075664; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:52:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:52:48 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20070316145247.GE75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200703152006.UAA28235@sopwith.solgatos.com> <20070315203644.GA71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <45FA1280.5020406@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45FA1280.5020406@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burncd makes disk that is unmountable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:53:16 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:44:00PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Jerry McAllister wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 01:06:10PM +0100, Dieter wrote: > > > >>AMD64 running 6.0 > >>Drive is: > >> acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA66 > >>Media is CD-RW > >> > >>Burned a 6.2 disk using: > >> burncd data 6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fixate > >>as suggested in > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html > > > >I don't remember the details, but when I got to 6.1, I found that > >my old burncd parameters would not work and I had to change them. > > > >I don't remember the details, but I settled upon: > > /usr/sbin/burncd -v -f /dev/acd0 data FreeBSD62-disc1.iso fixate > >which seems to work find. Both boots and mounts. That doesn't look > >materially different from yours, but... > > > >////jerry > > > >>Seemed to go okay. Disk boots, but I cannot mount it: > >> > >>fstab entry: > >> /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 > >> 0 > >> > >>Yields: > >> g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5 > >> > >>Tried it with and without "fixate", neither will mount. > >> > >>Other iso disks (probably burned using NetBSD) mount fine. > >>UFS DVD+RW disks burned under FreeBSD using growisofs mount fine. > >> > >>Given the error message, I assume that the block/sector at 32768 isn't > >>getting written. > > I hate to slam burncd because it does the job, but I've always found > cdrecord / mkisofs to be a better set of software for burning CDs than > burncd.. Besides, burncd chokes on permission errors on my machine > whereas cdrecord keeps on humming away with issue, and I've been using > it for 2 releases now (6.1, 6.2). When I was having trouble the last time, I thought about using cdrecord, but managed to get burncd working OK. I use it because it is there and normally does what I want. I would have to install cdrecord separately and figure out how to use it. ////jerry > > -Garrett > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:56:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E7216A408 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B322013C489 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GEu1fb075706; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:56:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2GEu1NS075705; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:56:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:56:01 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: neo neo Message-ID: <20070316145601.GF75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <7f391ef40703151516pc99d198v66bc2fcca81fc319@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703151516pc99d198v66bc2fcca81fc319@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:56:30 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:16:46AM -1200, neo neo wrote: > hi > > For NAT ; > > i already configure internal and external ip . And also finished gateway. > > but i don't know how to configure DNS . plz .. ? Will you be doing your own DNS or will that be done by your ISP? > > by the way , " route add default xx.xx.xx.xx " is setting gateway .. is it > right ? > > very thankz... i am very happy for your support.. > > ZAW HTET AUNG > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:58:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C2816A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rajkumars@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E700713C45B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rajkumars@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so554978wxc for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:58:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XQrGGhvJOgu6ODFqmrWaE9oYcnYheX9nIRheghNcXQCRxW61nDT40ewQEHi5DL+QljIT/nAa/wxUikZimzPeSgue4yXlVs2sKCr0xmAq5YDuJO5TFAvYEtSP2s7ti99C79LfRb4Rob2oVkMD4yW+V7jPah4YdP7VRI3TRDtiIAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cc3x5RXa+WKU+ptk8ZzaLCYJISC8S/9UPD0BjFahfvaXnHLlMGXVWjvxhghgMCQNb7D1je0l+S5XxXa0wEIIpYIc3y2EYltsBYH1hVw5g8WUzZ4OUBO1h3fajcyk9K4He6mlccmvwW7LInq/Gd1fyVpYJqfv5iJyAjIB3798KJw= Received: by 10.70.130.19 with SMTP id c19mr3320385wxd.1174055552182; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.69.8 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64de5c8b0703160732o789f6993hcd926c6b3bc123f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:02:32 +0530 From: "Rajkumar S" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: safe0 and kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:58:44 -0000 Hi, I am trying to install SafeNet 1141 support in one of the freebsd boxes here. according to safe(4), I have to add "device safe" into my kernel config and compile to enable hardware crypto acceleration. But after I boot with safe module enabled I get a kernel panic. The last couple of lines in my boot message are safe0 mem 0xf6120000-0xf6121fff irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 safe0: cannot allocate DMA tag device_attach: safe0 attach returned 6 re0: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xf6120 re0: could not allocate dma tag Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x60 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc0570ea5 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0c20bd0 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0c20be4 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 1s I have appended my kernel config at the end of this mail. To test this further, I commented the "device safe" line from the kernel config and this time the system booted up correctly. The diff of the messages up to the point of panic is --- embedded.txt 2007-03-16 15:59:52.528876360 +0530 +++ freebsd.dump 2007-03-16 15:58:18.852117392 +0530 @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. -FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Fri Mar 16 08:57:36 UTC 2007 +FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Thu Mar 15 11:46:30 UTC 2007 root@beastie.linuxense.com:/usr/obj.pfSense/usr/src/sys/pfSense_wrap.6 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 @@ -69,6 +69,24 @@ rlphy7: on miibus7 rlphy7: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl7: Ethernet address: 00:60:e0:04:29:e4 -pci0: at device 10.0 (no driver attached) +safe0 mem 0xf6120000-0xf6121fff irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 +safe0: cannot allocate DMA tag +device_attach: safe0 attach returned 6 re0: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xf6120 +re0: could not allocate dma tag + + +Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode +fault virtual address = 0x60 +fault code = supervisor read, page not present +instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc0570ea5 +stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0c20bd0 +frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0c20be4 +code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b + = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 +processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 +current process = 0 (swapper) +trap number = 12 +panic: page fault +Uptime: 1s It's only 2 lines about could not allocate dma tag, I have searched for this error message, but nothing came up. Any help to get the safe(4) working will me very much appreciated. I can provide more information if required. The kernel config is at the end of the mail. Thanks for reading, raj -- machine i386 cpu I486_CPU cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident embedded # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 options CPU_GEODE options CPU_SOEKRIS options CPU_ELAN #options CPU_ELAN_PPS #options CPU_ELAN_XTAL=32768000 #options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev #options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. #options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. # Bus support. Do not remove isa, even if you have no isa slots device isa device eisa device pci # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) #device isp # Qlogic family #device ispfw # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a module #device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') #device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters #device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters #device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters #device aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters #device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. #device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters #device ncv # NCR 53C500 #device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 #device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) #device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) #device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem device amr # AMI MegaRAID device arcmsr # Areca SATA II RAID #device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID #device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* #device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x device iir # Intel Integrated RAID #device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID #device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID # RAID controllers device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 device twe # 3ware ATA RAID # IO devices for console device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device ppi # Parallel port interface device # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card device ixgb # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet device nve # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet Networking device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100(precedence over 'lnc') device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Wireless NIC cards device wlan # 802.11 support device wlan_wep device wlan_ccmp device wlan_tkip device wlan_xauth device wlan_acl device ath device ath_rate_sample device ath_hal device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. device awi # BayStack 660 and others device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs. device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. device wl # Older non 802.11 Wavelan wireless NIC. #device iwi # Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic device ucom # Uncommented at the request of colin device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse # USB Ethernet, requires miibus device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet device cdce # Generic USB over Ethernet device cue # CATC USB Ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet # FireWire support #device firewire # FireWire bus code #device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) #device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) # pfsense addons device wlan # 802.11 support device wlan_wep device wlan_ccmp device wlan_tkip device wlan_xauth device wlan_acl device ath device ath_rate_sample device ath_hal device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. device awi # BayStack 660 and others device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs. device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. device wl # Older non 802.11 Wavelan wireless NIC. device tap device gre options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT device vlan options IPSTEALTH options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN options GEOM_UZIP options GEOM_LABEL options NETGRAPH #netgraph(4) system options NETGRAPH_BPF options NETGRAPH_ETHER options NETGRAPH_IFACE options NETGRAPH_PPP options NETGRAPH_PPPOE options NETGRAPH_PPTPGRE options NETGRAPH_RFC1490 options NETGRAPH_SOCKET options NETGRAPH_TTY options NETGRAPH_MPPC_ENCRYPTION #options NETGRAPH_UI #options NETGRAPH_VJC #options NETGRAPH_KSOCKET #options NETGRAPH_LMI #options NETGRAPH_ONE2MANY #options NETGRAPH_BRIDGE #options NETGRAPH_CISCO #options NETGRAPH_ECHO #options NETGRAPH_ASYNC #options NETGRAPH_FRAME_RELAY #options NETGRAPH_HOLE #options NETGRAPH_TEE device ubsa device ucom options FAST_IPSEC #device enc options ALTQ options ALTQ_CBQ options ALTQ_RED options ALTQ_RIO options ALTQ_HFSC options ALTQ_PRIQ device pf device pflog device carp device pfsync device crypto # core crypto support device cryptodev # /dev/crypto for access to h/w device rndtest # FIPS 140-2 entropy tester device hifn # Hifn 7951, 7781, etc. options HIFN_DEBUG # enable debugging support: hw.hifn.debug options HIFN_RNDTEST # enable rndtest support device ubsec # Broadcom 5501, 5601, 58xx #device safe # SafeNet Support device if_bridge device speaker device hme options DEVICE_POLLING options ZERO_COPY_SOCKETS options HZ=100 device bce # Broadcom BCM5706/BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet options TCP_SIGNATURE options PREEMPTION #options NO_ADAPTIVE_MUTEXES options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. # Lighttpd options ACCEPT_FILTER_HTTP # IPSEC filtering interface device enc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:00:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711E316A40A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310CD13C43E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEDA1C8D4F; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:34:54 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Luca Masini Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:03:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45FA9CC0.4070200@web.de> In-Reply-To: <45FA9CC0.4070200@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703161703.10233.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Subject: Re: config version = 600003, version required = 600004 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:00:15 -0000 On Friday 16 March 2007 15:33, Luca Masini wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to compile a reference GENERIC kernel from 7-CURRENT > as explainde in an article. > I downloaded the CVS repository and then co a local copy > of 7-CURRENT in a user directory (as explained etc.) > How useful is a 7-CURRENT kernel with 6-SOMETHING userland? > When I try > $ config GENERIC > I get the message > ERROR: version of config(8) does not match kernel! > config version = 600003, version required = 600004 > Make sure that /usr/src/usr.sbin/config is in sync > with your /usr/src/sys and install a new config binary > before trying this again. > > I suppose I need to upgrade the config that come with 7-CURRENT ? > (or can I upgrade the one of the installed system?) > > The question is: > How is the correct way to do this upgrade ? Perhaps you should try "make kernel" instead of config(8). This is the new way. Please, read /usr/src/UPDATING. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:00:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B5916A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF39B13C4B8 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GF0EmG075747; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:00:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2GF0Ef0075746; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:00:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:00:14 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Danny Pansters Message-ID: <20070316150014.GG75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <45F9C6ED.2010306@wcborstel.com> <707D1CE0-F7E3-4D29-A755-3AB7495FB66C@goldmark.org> <200703160219.25929.danny@ricin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703160219.25929.danny@ricin.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:00:43 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 02:19:25AM +0100, Danny Pansters wrote: > On Friday 16 March 2007 01:04:51 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > > On Mar 15, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Jorn Argelo wrote: > > > youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > > >> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Danny Pansters wrote: > > >> I know that this has been discussed a few times before, but > > >> IMO running a slightly stripped down kernel (i.e. custom, not > > >> GENERIC) actually proves to be helpful in increasing boot times > > >> (if options were added statically) and compile times if [(# of > > >> options added) < (# of options in GENERIC)]. > > > > > > I can confirm this too. I noticed on both desktop and servers the > > > boot time can be decreased by stripping the kernel configuration of > > > stuff you don't need. I don't have any hard facts to prove this but > > > this is what my personal experience is. > > > > me, too. > > > > Of course it will speed up booting but then again how much time does one spend > booting, compared to using the puter: not much (at least I hope so for them!) > > If I do build my own kernel, for example to switch schedulers, I tend to toss > out a heap of devices that I don't have anyway. But other than a bit more > memory usage (which compared to the software that's run will typically be > minor anyhow unless you're talking embedded system or maybe not-so-embedded > but still of low spec special purpose boxes, like a satellite receiver box) > you're not going to have a slower system because your kernel happens to have > some built-in drivers that it doesn't use. The exception is a debug kernel of > course that will impact performance because it increases runtime tasks/load. > > On a server I'd strip down the kernel, but for other reasons (avoiding any > unneeded complexity). On a desktop I don't care as long as thingie works. > YMMV of course. I think what he was saying is that if you already need to build a kernel for some other reason, then go ahead and strip out the unused stuff. But, if you don't have any other reason to do it, it is not worth the bother to build another kernel just to strip it of unused stuff - that it won't make THAT much difference. I'd agree with that. ////jerry > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:04:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC3016A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62215.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62215.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2634813C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 10674 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2007 15:04:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=A/qISae4EJGi40KGAQxbq8GKaG6b2Z/0t7doFFDx/faKWG1D7ZvmCr416W40o93qnerT3tJel5icW8ZgGxaM7bxwwpUnN/4FyCSM9C0OalUMFYPIViHzWfLh+NReqjdjDrH6DBzKE7+mPEiv3jCnGgLxLB5jaQFymvL3E/qd0aw=; X-YMail-OSG: p9FYZI4VM1m_Y7aG2fBhdnicJ3qOF.ltkcrt8BfKLkwA5qy4hWHX57Ng5E5WHctFwZPSjXV3_6Mwlbm_pJesJIiqnCdIZF0VjlygqheLo7temiWK6fxXFDqN22Bi2OqElg-- Received: from [69.19.14.39] by web62215.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:04:19 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/471 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:04:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <710515.9368.qm@web62215.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:04:20 -0000 You have probably already read those details in another one of my emails be= tween when you emailed and when I responded to yours, but in case not, here= it is again:=0A=0AI executed a bad command on my old server which I am con= vinced damaged a 500 GB HD I had. The server farm says otherwise, but it is= in their best interest to talk a lot and do as little work as possible...a= nd rake in more money for screwing up OS's, etc. So I had them build out an= other server which I built out after they got me up. First, however, I buil= t a mirror server here and wrote down every command I executed in building = it, to make sure there would be no mistakes. Then one day, all of a sudden,= when I wasn't doing any work at all in the given areas, two of my database= s got wiped: MySQL and one of my Zope instances' Data.fs, both of which wer= e symlinked to the SCSI HDs from the 500 GB HD. This is exactly what happen= ed on the old server, except on the old one it happened because of an erron= eous copy command. Now, strange little things are happening for which there= is no logical explanation other than corruption of the OS...exactly what t= ranspired on the old server. Well, that's more detail than in my last email ;)=0ATIA,=0ADrew=0A=0A-----= Original Message ----=0AFrom: Garrett Cooper = =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:43:3= 8 AM=0ASubject: Re: Corrupted OS=0A=0AChristian Walther wrote:=0A> On 16/03= /07, Drew Jenkins wrote:=0A>> 23Hi;=0A>> Is it po= ssible to rebuild an OS without reformatting the hard drive? I =0A>> have F= BSD6.2, so I can't upgrade.=0A> =0A> What are you trying to do? You could a= lways go to /usr/src and do a=0A> make buildworld, which would rebuild the = entire FreeBSD userland.=0A> Ports can be rebuilt, too, for example by doin= g a portupgrade -afk=0A> =0A>> TIA,=0A>> Drew=0A> =0A> Christian=0A=0ADrew,= =0A Depends on how "corrupted" it is. Could you provide details?=0AThank= s,=0A-Garrett=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-q= uestions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listin= fo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-= unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A_______________________= _____________________________________________________________=0ABe a PS3 ga= me guru.=0AGet your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Y= ahoo! Games.=0Ahttp://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=3D120121 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:16:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD84916A40D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F00213C468 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so221044nza for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:16:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=VypUX8yJd41UERYzlTJyiIh4Kqm8U/ajdGN6AGQd931PKxJErr8KnDK+ka/HwN2Pj0pgR/lJ+P80rp6q+RHmqEnLbH0GGk9nsDIAWcHcVOGj+M8I0C9wx6v5+Wp2Z9GU2JP5t4OYoK3sFzUXVVf1TM7qnkPVfG97rm31k5XVUDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XSUl25bk1U4pouQekePWWVITcIchJRZx3uwzBMzM2MMcDkcV/hUD2EbzROc4x+oKrlajjAhohGFnDGwJ/xucLdLZ3TkkAjD0UQiC+c310FLlZD64NO4PN/C2OuXP0PRyNOkVnRxpPg7GFsiEeor8cMxLdWVglCAHMerj8NnsR2s= Received: by 10.35.126.7 with SMTP id d7mr4365304pyn.1174058205991; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.106.6 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <226ae0c60703160816v3d90ec0eg29bac15a5676f875@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:16:45 -0400 From: "David Robillard" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Dan D Niles Subject: Re: Serial Port Problems (Solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:16:50 -0000 > On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 15:27 -0600, Dan D Niles wrote: >> If I disconnect and come back later >> (sometimes), or if I hit return without entering a login name (always) >> it starts spitting out junk like: >> >> nooo~:Woo{;>6(|uww~now~nou})|t}}t9- > > I found a solution, although I'm not sure why it works. > > When you just hit enter getty goes back to the beginning of its loop. > This also happens if you enter a name starting with "-" or consisting of > just spaces. These also causes the output to become garbled. > > At the beginning of the loop it calls setttymode(0). If I insert a > sleep(1) before this call, everything works correctly. If I insert the > sleep after that, the output still gets garbled. > > Like I said, I don't know why it works, but it does. > > I don't think a short delay is unreasonable after entering invalid or no > information. I am going to submit a PR with a patch. I have the same behavior as you do on some machines here. But I originally thought it was caused by the (old) serial port card I used to build a serial console server. The card is an EasyIO PCI 8-port card from Stallion Technologies as suggested by Gregory Bond's article "Console Server" from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/console-server/index.html (BTW, don't buy this card today because it's driver was not ported from FreeBSD 4.x to neither 5.x nor 6.x.) That being said, I checked /usr/src/libexec/getty/main.c to find out how to recreate your fix. But I'm not a huge C programmer, so I tried other ways to solve this. That brought me to gettytab(5) which says that the "de" field controls the "delay secs and flush input before writing first prompt" as the man page puts it. So I changed a test machine's gettytab default entry from: default:\ :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n%h (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200:\ :if=/etc/issue: To: default:\ :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n%h (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200:\ :if=/etc/issue:de=2: And restarted (not sure if a reboot is necessary here?). I had to fiddle a bit with the delay, but it did help. HTH, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:17:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91E416A40B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.8.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4937E13C484 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GFH7ps064177 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:17:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from localhost (kheuer2@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id l2GFH7u0064174 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:17:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) X-Authentication-Warning: gwdu60.gwdg.de: kheuer2 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:17:07 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070316161325.C62317@gwdu60.gwdg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: nfsiod && nfs_client_flags X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:17:09 -0000 Hi everyone, after replacing 4.11-RELEASE by 6.1-RELEASE on most of my systems I just remembered the rc.conf variable "nfs_client_flags" which I used under 4.x to raise the number of nfsiod's on heavily loaded systems. I can't find nfs_client_flags in 6.1 although the man page of nfsiod still documents the "-n" flag. Is there any reason for this? Thanks for any reply! Best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:18:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8468916A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DD013C45A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GFHt4n075852; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:17:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2GFHtkl075851; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:17:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:17:55 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Drew Jenkins Message-ID: <20070316151755.GH75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <683651.79176.qm@web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <683651.79176.qm@web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:18:23 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 05:09:15PM +0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > 23Hi; > Is it possible to rebuild an OS without reformatting the hard drive? I > have FBSD6.2, so I can't upgrade. I am not sure just what you are trying to avoid. First of all, strictly speaking, when installing FreeBSD you never format or reformat the hard-drive. That is a much lower level operation. FreeBSD and all other OSen use the factory format unless you do something unusually drastic. Doing fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs is not technically 'formatting' the drive but rather building slices, partitions and filesystems on the drive. Now. You do not have to redo the fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs to wipe out and reinstall things, but why not do them? They take very little time. The only reason I could think of would be if you have a lot of your own files you don't want to nuke. But, in that case, the better course of action would be to back them up somewhere safe and do the complete reinstall from scratch and then bring your own files back. ////jerry > TIA, > Drew > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:18:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4A016A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F93D13C484 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so274897nfc for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:18:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=jrE1AVnbdVDB/qOYzHZG6uVWbqCZBk2hTjh6x7LYDBZ8re12K2/fzHViaXsfKVWXQqK34rX+hnPwMD/1ltqBLQ3MU+ZloBgYS5l1SJd+sba4BrD+8431jTb5l1q/vkYfTRLHMvsiKz1XKbghDeMtZu2ovJe5sKMUfYhe/hMZUAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=r27LZZNx5SdqxVzTw3CQ2egepILon/KEFD3yG/vft4wsqLzc3MSKn6ih9bJgOrBR+p1QooWTTMjjGyfmNiHiDqJZkwbY3PN2hY5fr7qqJVm1cb5ZjCXm7uPMyDbX4yDjpP6Fu2urvtXiRypGBZOopBMpT07fJZU6o5dH+6yLnNs= Received: by 10.82.155.10 with SMTP id c10mr3380548bue.1174058314964; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90703160818v377b9d6fia4e2b8c0fd610f6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:18:34 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "John Nielsen" In-Reply-To: <200703131541.52223.lists@jnielsen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90703131212m731986b1p8603a86eca00d6b2@mail.gmail.com> <200703131541.52223.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9d603d10000c29ea Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mirror without destroying existing contents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:18:36 -0000 I get the following: #gmirror label -v -b split -s 1024 data ad0 can't store metadata on ad0: operation not permitted. Ideas? Same behavior with /dev/ad0. Does this only work with da0 disks, not sata drives? I'm logged in as root, not su. The drive is on a promise non-raid sata card (the sw raid chipset on my asus bios lost support going from 6.1 to 6.2 - something about some new method not supported by the bios according to Soren). Thanks, Steve On 3/13/07, John Nielsen wrote: > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 15:12, Steve Franks wrote: > > Anyone made a mirror w/o destroying what's in the disk already? The > > atacontrol man page is less than adequate in this respect...is is even > > possible? > > If you want to use gmirror (which I recommend), the most conservative approach > is as follows. This can probably be adapted to other mirroring > techniques/software as well. > > Verify that your backups are up-to-date and reliable. > > Create a "degraded" single-member mirror on the blank disk (or a > partition/slice on said disk). (gmirror label command) Make sure that the > size of the disk/slice/partition is equal to or smaller than the size of the > disk/slice/partition which already contains your data. > > Create (a) new filsystem(s) on the new mirror. (newfs and possibly bsdlabel, > depending on how/if you want to break it up) > > Transfer your data from the existing filesystem to the new filesystem > (dump/restore -- it's easier than it sounds). (Alternative: restore from the > backup you created to begin with.) > > Verify data transfer, make relevant changes to /etc/fstab, possibly other > intermediate steps. > > Destroy the original filesystem (possibly using dd and /dev/zero) (not > strictly necessary, but wiping at least the first part of the > disk/slice/partition can help avoid potential confusion (for you and the > system) later.) > > Insert the original disk/slice/partition into your new mirro (gmirror insert > command). > > This approach can take longer than some others (due to the transfer > requirement), but the finished product is less likely to contain surprises. I > have successfully used this approach to migrate several types of volumes to > gmirror sets, including boot partitions. > > JN > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:21:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC1216A408 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@voidmain.net) Received: from tiltup.nepinc.com (tiltup.nepinc.com [66.207.136.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBD313C480 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@voidmain.net) Received: from [192.168.97.74] (dhcp74.it.nepinc.com [192.168.97.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by tiltup.nepinc.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2GFLf9x061804; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:21:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd@voidmain.net) Message-ID: <45FAB602.5090206@voidmain.net> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:21:38 -0400 From: Tom Grove User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr References: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> <45FA55FD.70905@freemail.hu> <20070316100714.GA855@pcjas.obspm.fr> In-Reply-To: <20070316100714.GA855@pcjas.obspm.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nagy_L=E1szl=F3_Zsolt?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jay Chandler Subject: Re: Flash with Firefox 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:21:43 -0000 Albert Shih wrote: > Le 16/03/2007 à 09:31:57+0100, Nagy László Zsolt a écrit > >> Jay Chandler írta: >> >>> I can't be the first person to ask this, but a Google and a cursory >>> search of the archives don't lend me much in the way of hints. >>> >>> Anyone have a link or an explanation of how to get the Flash plugin >>> working within Firefox? I've gotten Java up already, but Flash >>> continues to elude me... >>> >>> >> You need to install the linux version. Flash plugin is not supported in >> the FreeBSD version. In Linux compatibility mode, the flash plugin makes >> the browser unstable. Too bad. :-( >> >> There are some applications that we would like to have ported to >> FreeBSD. Firefox flash plugin is on of them. Another one is a natvive >> skype port. The authors of these softwares do not support FreeBSD and >> the source code is closed. :-( >> >> > > and....vmware > > It's very usefull software for make test of new-software. > > Regards > -- > Albert SHIH > Observatoire de Paris Meudon > SIO batiment 15 > Heure local/Local time: > Ven 16 mar 2007 11:06:13 CET > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Have you tried Win4BSD? It isn't perfect but get's the job done. -Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:31:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A277516A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8114C13C457 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GFVRRT075908; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:31:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2GFVRdx075907; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:31:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:31:27 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Drew Jenkins Message-ID: <20070316153127.GI75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <45FA9EA0.1000300@daleco.biz> <847677.58578.qm@web62209.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <847677.58578.qm@web62209.mail.re1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:31:55 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:16:33AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > 2Kevin Kinsey wrote:> > synch your source to 6.2 > > > > > > How? And is this necessary since it's already at 6.2? > > > > The command below, "cvsup -g -L 2 supfile". Assuming, of > course, that > > the supfile is valid. Is it necessary? Depends; if you're convinced > > that something is wrong with your current installation, then you might > > not need to, because you can rebuild exactly the system that you > > *should* have (for example, perhaps you fat-fingered a chmod or rm > > call?). > Drew, Can you finally learn to break you lines at about 70 characters in length. Having them run on long makes it much more difficult to make responses. Most Email clients allow you to configure it to break lines. If yours does not, just hit a a RETURN/ENTER about there each time. > Yes. The system was working fine. The problem is with an extra HD I have that I told the server farm to check out thoroughly before installing it in the new server because I knew it had a problem. They said they did....and didn't. So that's what corrupted the system again...exactly the same way it did before, too. But yes, the system was working fine before I had data files on the HD in question linked to s/w on the SCSI hard drives. That I don't quite get. If you are just adding a disk to your machine, it is not likely to corript the rest of the system unless you execute something on that disk. When you fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs it, it is wiped and the previous contents are gone. If you precede that with a nice dd to overwrite initial sectors with zeros, then it is even more wiped before you even get to the fdisk. Or are you trying to add this disk to a mirror in such a way that the raid controller thinks it is the good disk and the other is corrupt and tries to rebuild the mirror with the contents of the added disk? That you don't want to do. > > OTOH, if you are attempting to get "up to date" on security > > fixes, etc., then you should read up on "the Cutting Edge" so that you > > understand the CVS tags, and use cvsup as shown below. > > Well, it never hurts to get up to date on security, does it? Where do I find this cutting edge? > > > Be *certain* you > > have the CVS tag you really want in the supfile before you press enter, > > though. > > Will that be outlined in the cutting edge, or elsewhere? > > > Now, if you think that the system is corrupt because your source tree is > > corrupt, then you would also want to sync your source tree. Of course, > > why would it be corrupt? If a committer made an error, you'd probably > > see some discussion of it on this list of the stable@ list. > > The HD zapped two data files--MySQL and a Zope instance Data.fs--and that's what caused the problem both times. I doubt this would have hurt the source tree. Your thoughts? My thoughts are that something is happening that you haven't declared yet. An HD does not go out and zap files. That is like saying one book on a shelf skipped over and trashed the contents of another book on a shelf. The only ways that the new HD could be involved would be either if you executed something on that disk or if it was being improperly incorporated in to a mirror. ////jerry > .... > ...and I don't need this either, since I'm not doing mergmaster at all, right? > > mergemaster > TIA, > Drew > > > --------------------------------- > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:42:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C9A16A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C8013C457 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 108941332-1860479 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:42:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <20070316145117.35006906@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <7f391ef40703142345p518938a4h9aa02edfe0182b3@mail.gmail.com> <20070316145117.35006906@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2746D68D-E9B2-4A43-B142-A7DA87993771@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:42:50 -0400 To: FreeBSD Mailing Lists X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: squid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:42:54 -0000 On Mar 16, 2007, at 10:51 AM, RW wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:45:22 +0000 > "neo neo" wrote: > > >> How to configure to use my FreeBSD as a proxy with Squid ? > > Just install it and read the notes that are printed-out at the end of > the install. What exactly is the question regarding Squid? How to configure some feature, how to get clients to work with it, what is a proxy...? You might want to google for Squid and read the docs on their project home page if you're totally lost on what and how it works. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:44:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B26E16A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DED813C44B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 3CCAE37F4A; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:11:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3A037F47; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:11:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81-231-90-251-no41.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.90.251]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93F937E54; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:11:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45FAB3A9.8040207@passagen.se> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:11:37 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: neo neo References: <7f391ef40703151553o7bcade72qa8bc8491dac7c5f2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7f391ef40703151553o7bcade72qa8bc8491dac7c5f2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS configuration at FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:44:27 -0000 Hello there hiding behind an anonymous email account whoever you are, Not knowing what you really ask for, since you don't provide much information I assume that you want to setup a small dns for LAN with forwarding to your ISP? If this is correct may I suggest that you have look at djbdns from the ports tree and follow the guides at http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html . The examples are plentiful and it's a fairly easy dns to setup and run. Good luck! neo neo skrev: > could u please tell me detail how to configure DNS ip ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:46:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA8B16A409 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lmasini@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E6913C4AD for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lmasini@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D696BBC98C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:46:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [85.180.137.235] (helo=[192.168.0.44]) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1HSEd9-00084N-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:46:11 +0100 Message-ID: <45FAB8F1.2040002@web.de> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:34:09 +0100 From: Luca Masini User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45FA9CC0.4070200@web.de> <200703161703.10233.nvass@teledomenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <200703161703.10233.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: lmasini@web.de X-Sender: lmasini@web.de Subject: Re: config version = 600003, version required = 600004 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luca Masini List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:46:16 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > How useful is a 7-CURRENT kernel with > 6-SOMETHING userland? > Not much useful but the intention was just to compile a reference kernel; not to upgrade the current installed system. (everything is in a user subdirectory) It was explained in a tutorial article about kernel load module. I just need to be able to compile a reference GENERIC of this 7-CURRENT before doing the modification (the simple load module). Probably the author didn't had the problem with config... > Perhaps you should try "make kernel" instead of config(8). > This is the new way. > > Please, read /usr/src/UPDATING. > I will try. Thanks. Luca. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:50:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF54A16A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:50:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lmasini@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC1613C46A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:50:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lmasini@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9416D6BBCC90 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:50:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from [85.180.137.235] (helo=[192.168.0.44]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1HSEhU-0003kM-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:50:40 +0100 Message-ID: <45FAB9FE.8000008@web.de> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:38:38 +0100 From: Luca Masini User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45FA9CC0.4070200@web.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: lmasini@web.de X-Sender: lmasini@web.de Subject: Re: config version = 600003, version required = 600004 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luca Masini List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:50:41 -0000 Niclas Zeising wrote: > Have a look in the handbook here: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > > and here: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html > > for instructions on how to rebuild/upgrade your kernel and system. Will do! :-P > Usually you have to upgrade userland along with your kernel or things > will get out of sync and Bad Things(tm) will happen. I don't want to upgrade the current system. I only need to be able to compile a reference GENERIC of 7-CURRENT in a user subdirectory. Ciao. Luca. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 15:54:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C2A16A40F for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:54:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7A513C44C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:54:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:38:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9702ACB@www.fcimail.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DST Thread-Index: Acdn4SqJz/idwpABQ+KeZEiCdn78gg== From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: Subject: DST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:54:40 -0000 Hi everyone, I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving- I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot the = machine it still in the old time zone- Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4 Jean-Paul Natola Network Administrator Information Technology Family Care International 588 Broadway Suite 503 New York, NY 10012 Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36 Fax: 212-941-5563 Mailto: Jnatola@Familycareintl.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:00:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2F316A404 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB6D213C45E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68897 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2007 16:00:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=kB12/+QY8yDPyIeqSRXN4kglfO75K9MtMOJst1eOhMqGBpmTwRsRUQKc3gKL+UA5Vv5nVu69J4MAidvipaErFLdL/axGlx3CPFcrjsjzi7KyzmjyRXfoETX1ul7BGP7x7n9ouqYNk9uRnd0roVls4u4mhC5cCXEmIa3InvgeZqk=; X-YMail-OSG: l3HPoPIVM1lFQVNjkfpbtuH56Wh6L0W2_ERvrYKSoImjKwg30bzovue_fUo.pPIKD8uQCkWwq8Pc9KoRg966_.ThQxptNqyJh1rfNKNaSacGxjTo0hkzivCB0UNyr14- Received: from [66.82.9.60] by web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:00:41 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/471 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:00:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <168472.68642.qm@web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:00:43 -0000 I have lots of other files, yes, several gigabytes worth. I have a satellit= e dish connection, which for uploading has all the speed of a telephone lin= e. It's a production server. And I don't have my hands on the console. I th= ink I'll avoid fdisk, but thanks anyway ;)=0ADrew=0A=0A----- Original Messa= ge ----=0AFrom: Jerry McAllister =0ATo: Drew Jenkins =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Friday, Ma= rch 16, 2007 11:17:55 AM=0ASubject: Re: Corrupted OS=0A=0AOn Fri, Mar 16, 2= 007 at 05:09:15PM +0700, Drew Jenkins wrote:=0A=0A> 23Hi;=0A> Is it possibl= e to rebuild an OS without reformatting the hard drive? I =0A> have FBSD6.2= , so I can't upgrade.=0A=0AI am not sure just what you are trying to avoid.= =0AFirst of all, strictly speaking, when installing FreeBSD you never=0Afor= mat or reformat the hard-drive. That is a much lower level=0Aoperation. F= reeBSD and all other OSen use the factory format=0Aunless you do something = unusually drastic.=0A=0ADoing fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs is not technically 'form= atting' the drive=0Abut rather building slices, partitions and filesystems = on the drive.=0A=0ANow. You do not have to redo the fdisk, bsdlabel and n= ewfs to=0Awipe out and reinstall things, but why not do them? They take= =0Avery little time. The only reason I could think of would be if=0Ayou = have a lot of your own files you don't want to nuke. But, in=0Athat case, = the better course of action would be to back them up=0Asomewhere safe and d= o the complete reinstall from scratch and then=0Abring your own files back.= =0A=0A////jerry=0A=0A> TIA,=0A> Drew=0A> =0A> _____________________________= __________________=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http:= //lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, = send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________________________________= ____________________________=0AExpecting? Get great news right away with em= ail Auto-Check. =0ATry the Yahoo! Mail Beta.=0Ahttp://advision.webevents.ya= hoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 14:33:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C34E16A405; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D56513C457; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GEWtK1075539; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:32:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2GEWt8S075538; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:32:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:32:55 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Craig Rodrigues Message-ID: <20070316143254.GC75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070120073117.GB60202@x12.dk> <200703061246.09687.antik@bsd.ee> <45ED5850.6050506@nipsi.de> <200703061420.36980.antik@bsd.ee> <20070307135017.GC2864@garage.freebsd.pl> <45F2EEBD.6070007@barryp.org> <86ps7evniu.fsf@dwp.des.no> <45F91CF0.6010506@fluffles.net> <20070315213045.GA11147@crodrigues.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070315213045.GA11147@crodrigues.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:01:58 +0000 Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, Fluffles , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Barry Pederson Subject: Re: boot2 can't boot from USB? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:33:39 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 05:30:45PM -0400, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:16:16AM +0100, Fluffles wrote: > > If so, i may have found some bugs / problems with boot2. Long ago i > > tried to make a bootable USB pendrive with FreeBSD 6.1 on it. It failed > > to boot with the message "invalid slice" and i got a prompt like: > > I have worked a lot with getting FreeBSD to boot off of USB devices, > and have gotten it to work. > Specifically, I have worked with USB pen drives, and USB CD-ROM drives. > It *is* possible, but what I have found is the following: > - on some motherboards, you need to explicitly configure the BIOS > to boot off of a USB device (either a disk, a CD-ROM, or a "Zip drive") > - booting off of USB-CDROM devices seems to be much more reliable than > booting off of USB pen drives > - if you have an "older" motherboard BIOS, say from about 3-4 years ago, > booting off of USB devices is more unreliable, than a "newer" motherboard > BIOS > - if I have 5 different models of USB pen drives, each model may behave > differently, and may or may not boot. Same for USB CD-ROM drives, > but I've found CD-ROM drives to be more reliable than pen drives. > > So to summarize: > - booting off of USB devices seems to be sensitive > to your motherboard BIOS, and the firmware written into your USB device. > - booting off of USB CD-ROM drives seems to be more reliable than booting > off of USB pen drives Just to add to your list, I have been successful booting from a USB floppy drive. I don't remember the floppy drive make, but I have used it on both a Dell Optiplex and a IBM (Lenova) laptop. ////jerry > > There is no logic to this, I've just found this out from trial and error, > and banging my head a lot. > > -- > Craig Rodrigues > rodrigc@crodrigues.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-bugs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-bugs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:01:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8658516A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@more.net) Received: from jane.spg.more.net (jane.spg.more.net [207.160.133.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA0C13C44B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@more.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jane.spg.more.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598919C0F3; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:02:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Dan D Niles To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <226ae0c60703160816v3d90ec0eg29bac15a5676f875@mail.gmail.com> References: <226ae0c60703160816v3d90ec0eg29bac15a5676f875@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-YNkutSZD+bJOqjKKFg9i" Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:02:00 -0500 Message-Id: <1174060920.16417.10.camel@jane.spg.more.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Cc: David Robillard Subject: Re: Serial Port Problems (Solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:01:58 -0000 --=-YNkutSZD+bJOqjKKFg9i Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 11:16 -0400, David Robillard wrote: > That being said, I checked /usr/src/libexec/getty/main.c to find out > how to recreate your fix. But I'm not a huge C programmer, so I tried > other ways to solve this. I submitted a bug report and patch, but it has not been accepted yet. I'm not even sure that it has been reviewed. I'll attach my patch to this message. > That brought me to gettytab(5) which says that the "de" field controls > the "delay secs and flush input before writing first prompt" as the > man page puts it. This puts a delay before the first prompt but not the prompts after entering a null login name or other invalid input. It could help if you were having problems with garbled output all the time not just after invalid input. If that is the case, you probably need to set de and use my patch. Dan --=-YNkutSZD+bJOqjKKFg9i Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=patch.getty Content-Type: text/plain; name=patch.getty; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- libexec/getty/main.c.orig Tue Mar 6 15:55:35 2007 +++ libexec/getty/main.c Tue Mar 6 15:58:06 2007 @@ -295,6 +295,8 @@ /* remove any noise */ (void)tcflush(STDIN_FILENO, TCIOFLUSH); } + if (!first_sleep) + sleep(1); first_sleep = 0; setttymode(0); @@ -376,6 +378,7 @@ continue; if (name[0] == '-') { puts("user names may not start with '-'."); + oflush(); continue; } if (!(upper || lower || digit)) { --=-YNkutSZD+bJOqjKKFg9i-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:08:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7CC16A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713A413C44B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l2GG8hXl075492; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:08:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:08:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <539c60b90703131212m731986b1p8603a86eca00d6b2@mail.gmail.com> <200703131541.52223.lists@jnielsen.net> <539c60b90703160818v377b9d6fia4e2b8c0fd610f6a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703160818v377b9d6fia4e2b8c0fd610f6a@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703161208.49305.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Steve Franks Subject: Re: mirror without destroying existing contents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:08:45 -0000 On Friday 16 March 2007 11:18, Steve Franks wrote: > I get the following: > > #gmirror label -v -b split -s 1024 data ad0 > can't store metadata on ad0: operation not permitted. That most likely means that you currently have a filesystem on ad0 mounted. If that's the case you should be glad that the OS was smarter than you. What steps had you taken prior to this? > Ideas? Same behavior with /dev/ad0. Does this only work with da0 > disks, not sata drives? I'm logged in as root, not su. The drive is > on a promise non-raid sata card (the sw raid chipset on my asus bios > lost support going from 6.1 to 6.2 - something about some new method > not supported by the bios according to Soren). Gmirror should work with any GEOM provider, and definitely works with SATA disks. As long as your controller is supported to the point of seeing and accessing the disks connected to it the software raid support is irrelevant (that's what you're using gmirror for). JN > On 3/13/07, John Nielsen wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 15:12, Steve Franks wrote: > > > Anyone made a mirror w/o destroying what's in the disk already? The > > > atacontrol man page is less than adequate in this respect...is is even > > > possible? > > > > If you want to use gmirror (which I recommend), the most conservative > > approach is as follows. This can probably be adapted to other mirroring > > techniques/software as well. > > > > Verify that your backups are up-to-date and reliable. > > > > Create a "degraded" single-member mirror on the blank disk (or a > > partition/slice on said disk). (gmirror label command) Make sure that the > > size of the disk/slice/partition is equal to or smaller than the size of > > the disk/slice/partition which already contains your data. > > > > Create (a) new filsystem(s) on the new mirror. (newfs and possibly > > bsdlabel, depending on how/if you want to break it up) > > > > Transfer your data from the existing filesystem to the new filesystem > > (dump/restore -- it's easier than it sounds). (Alternative: restore from > > the backup you created to begin with.) > > > > Verify data transfer, make relevant changes to /etc/fstab, possibly other > > intermediate steps. > > > > Destroy the original filesystem (possibly using dd and /dev/zero) (not > > strictly necessary, but wiping at least the first part of the > > disk/slice/partition can help avoid potential confusion (for you and the > > system) later.) > > > > Insert the original disk/slice/partition into your new mirro (gmirror > > insert command). > > > > This approach can take longer than some others (due to the transfer > > requirement), but the finished product is less likely to contain > > surprises. I have successfully used this approach to migrate several > > types of volumes to gmirror sets, including boot partitions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:09:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1838216A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A711713C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 842 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2007 16:09:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=3gWbt+3KfPi+FJ8oGu5Ff+CmLejOqoj70rNYkox7AMzVAtKHHFB3WK9cm/sceZl+C7+KmWQBmcGRo7qovkS22EDEdgIr9rMoIAUoSd+r2qIzU4uhYOYy1RX8/ys066xklwoO6lkwyu2fxpqk06Oe3xr26opsSP1lDCWoruZQpUQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@74.104.205.212 with login) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2007 16:09:02 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: lpJzMosVM1nY7_nNQEFWUw6cOedeaiWjLEgNw5ejNUjYKW2Q1xqmriHdTJ5N9M3tmw-- From: "Tamouh H." To: "'Jean-Paul Natola'" , Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:09:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: Acdn4SqJz/idwpABQ+KeZEiCdn78ggABASyA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9702ACB@www.fcimail.org> Message-Id: <20070316160903.A711713C455@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: RE: DST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:09:04 -0000 > > Hi everyone, > > I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving- > > I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot > the machine it still in the old time zone- > > Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4 > Paste the results of: zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 & date somebody posted this code before: fetch ftp://sunrise.ipinc.net/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz tar -xzf tzdata2007c.tar.gz zic -d zoneinfo northamerica cp -R zoneinfo/* /usr/share/zoneinfo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:09:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865E516A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org (CPE-75-87-219-217.new.res.rr.com [75.87.219.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D677013C483 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2GGCw7f006971 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:12:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 69.129.174.18 (proxying for 192.168.1.13) (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:06:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <50887.69.129.174.18.1174061201.squirrel@email.polands.org> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:06:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Doug Poland" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2850/Fri Mar 16 05:05:03 2007 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Portupgrade and replacing apache 1.3.37 with apache 2.2.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:09:49 -0000 Hello, I'm running FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE on an i386 test box with apache 1.3.37/PHP-5/MySQL-5. As the subject says, I'd like to replace apache 1.3 with apache 2.2. I understand httpd.conf will change and that I'll have to edit that by hand, but is there a portupgrade command that will remove 1.3.37, install 2.2.4, and rebuild all apache dependent programs? I'm thinking something like: # portupgrade -R -f -o www/apache22 www/apache13-modssl -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:12:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FD716A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62206.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62206.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBDCE13C44C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 21160 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2007 16:12:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=L6E47VTESpeTWoH5g6KnfL38rkMxZMGJgrKL50ApJO4aUtfleo3svUeRLxzS/MxoiduhYqXBIoFxix5dik9EPqVG7sY92oAmfSLAzrfxtCI8r7Ezf34/PbFspkAKHL3rxvN/FNSFNyd5ghO7jltlbPtNAuoFQzdaXgZ061TsNE4=; X-YMail-OSG: r6FMovMVM1nGUDsQozvqrAorYDVFV4aadZXSDa1G7gkl1uHxihqzUhxpeOQDQ2eTMLEaX5yNQ9W7EFaLnGltHCRYMPct6dH7lTsHoJKMR28EdVSWlV779uNOS0QWsI_E Received: from [66.82.9.60] by web62206.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:12:02 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:12:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070316153127.GI75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <344.20901.qm@web62206.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:12:04 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:16:33AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > 2Kevin Kinsey wrote:> > synch your source to 6.2 > > > > > > How? And is this necessary since it's already at 6.2? > > > > The command below, "cvsup -g -L 2 supfile". Assuming, of > course, that > > the supfile is valid. Is it necessary? Depends; if you're convinced > > that something is wrong with your current installation, then you might > > not need to, because you can rebuild exactly the system that you > > *should* have (for example, perhaps you fat-fingered a chmod or rm > > call?). > > Can you finally learn to break you lines at about 70 characters in length. > Having them run on long makes it much more difficult to make responses. > Most Email clients allow you to configure it to break lines. If yours >does not, just hit a a RETURN/ENTER about there each time. Yahoo's new beta must be the problem. Let's see if the old yahoo system works. Just switched back. Let me know. > That I don't quite get. If you are just adding a disk to your machine, > it is not likely to corript the rest of the system unless you execute > something on that disk. Which I did. Trust me. I've ruled everything else out. It's the HD. > When you fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs it, it is > wiped and the previous contents are gone. If you precede that with > a nice dd to overwrite initial sectors with zeros, then it is even > more wiped before you even get to the fdisk. Can I bsdlabel, newfs and fdisk that disk without wiping the other disks, and do it remotely? > Or are you trying to add this disk to a mirror in such a way that > the raid controller thinks it is the good disk and the other is > corrupt and tries to rebuild the mirror with the contents of the > added disk? That you don't want to do. That I am not doing. There are two other disks in the box that are SCSIs. > My thoughts are that something is happening that you haven't declared > yet. An HD does not go out and zap files. That is like saying one > book on a shelf skipped over and trashed the contents of another book > on a shelf. You misread. The files were on the new HD. The "action scripts", or s/w that calls those dbase files, are on the SCSI drives. TIA, Drew --------------------------------- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:13:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA85016A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp1.tls.net (smtp1.tls.net [65.196.224.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D65F13C46E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 43467 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2007 16:15:04 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 43451, pid: 43463, t: 0.1461s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.88.5/m:42/d:2842 Received: from 208-70-43-223.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.105?) (ldg@tls.net@208.70.43.223) by auth-smtp1.tls.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2007 16:15:04 -0000 Message-ID: <45FAC1ED.1000906@pixelhammer.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:12:29 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9702ACB@www.fcimail.org> In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9702ACB@www.fcimail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:13:37 -0000 Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving- > > I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot the machine it > still in the old time zone- > > Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4 Dan Busarow posted an excellent step by step earlier. I used it with success on version 4.8 to 6.2 with no problems (Except the AMD64 port which has a zdump problem). See below, DAve ---------------------------------------------- > Grant, > > Search for an email I sent to the list on 2/22 with Subject > > Determining daylight savings changes on BSD > > It has the steps needed to update manually from source. > > Here's the steps > > If you can't use the ports to update your time zone files here is the manual procedure. > > 1. create a new directory and cd into it > e.g. # mkdir myzoneinfo; cd myzoneinfo > > 2. # fetch ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz > > 3. # tar -zxvf tzdata2007c.tar.gz > > 4. you will now have a bunch of files in the directory extracted from tzdata2007b. > you need to edit zone.tab and comment out these lines > > #AX +6006+01957 Europe/Mariehamn > #GG +4927-00232 Europe/Guernsey > #IM +5409-00428 Europe/Isle_of_Man > #JE +4912-00207 Europe/Jersey > #ME +4226+01916 Europe/Podgorica > #RS +4450+02030 Europe/Belgrade > #TL -0833+12535 Asia/Dili > > 5. run this command > # zic -d ./zoneinfo -p America/Los_Angeles -m 0644 -y ./yearistype \ > africa antarctica asia australasia etcetera europe \ > factory northamerica southamerica systemv > > that's all one long line > the zic command will create a new directory named zoneinfo and > fill it with the new zoneinfo files. You can compare it to > /usr/share/zoneinfo > > 6. install the new files by running > # cp -R -p ./zoneinfo/ /usr/share/zoneinfo > # cp ./zone.tab /usr/share/zoneinfo > # tzsetup > > 7. to verify that all went well run > # zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 > your should get > > /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800 > /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200 > /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:59:59 2007 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200 > /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:00:00 2007 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800 > > > I've done this on 1/2 dozen older 4.x and 5.x servers and it works fine. > > > > Dan ---------------------------------------------- -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:21:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F61816A407 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35FF13C4BA for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2GGL6Ds029523 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:21:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id l2GGL6hJ029522; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:21:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:21:06 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Konrad Heuer Message-ID: <20070316162106.GA64778@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20070316161325.C62317@gwdu60.gwdg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070316161325.C62317@gwdu60.gwdg.de> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfsiod && nfs_client_flags X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:21:23 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 16), Konrad Heuer said: > after replacing 4.11-RELEASE by 6.1-RELEASE on most of my systems I > just remembered the rc.conf variable "nfs_client_flags" which I used > under 4.x to raise the number of nfsiod's on heavily loaded systems. > I can't find nfs_client_flags in 6.1 although the man page of nfsiod > still documents the "-n" flag. nfsiods in 5.* and newer are completely kernel-based and are controlled by three sysctls: vfs.nfs.iodmin, vfs.nfs.iodmax, and vfs.nfs.iodmaxidle. The kernel will automatically start up new nfsiods as it needs them, up to 'iodmax'. If an nfsiod had been idle for 'iodmaxidle' seconds, the kernel will kill it off, but will always leave at least 'iodmin' processes running. All /sbin/nfsiod does is set the iodmax sysctl (which defaults to 20); it's not really needed anymore. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:31:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C46216A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from nlpi043.sbcis.sbc.com (nlpi043.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F2D13C480 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) X-ORBL: [75.35.20.169] Received: from [192.168.4.2] (adsl-75-35-20-169.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [75.35.20.169]) by nlpi043.sbcis.sbc.com (8.13.8 out.dk.spool/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2GGVGGL026802 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:31:17 -0500 Message-ID: <45FAC664.2040606@chrismaness.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:31:32 -0700 From: Chris Maness User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Rsync w/ Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:31:36 -0000 I need to sync a directory with my freebsd box. In linux/bsd I use the command rsync -vaur chris@foo.com:/home/chris/beer /home/chris/beer and this works perfectly for me. However, using the cwrsync package in windows with this syntax does not work. Pleas help! Thanks... -- Chris Maness (909) 223-9179 http://www.chrismaness.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:33:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E5416A407 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9150A13C468 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A2C519DB; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:33:15 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jeffrey Goldberg Message-ID: <20070316163315.0201f326@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <682271DA-A9C3-48E0-A18E-8546A7725864@goldmark.org> <20070315084846.GA15959@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <499c70c0703150316x67bd1783g53ad5f7d04ed2682@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: SUMMARY: CPUTYPE for VIA EPIA M-Series Mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:33:20 -0000 On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:39:00 -0500 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > I've had two responses telling me that the make.conf defaults are > just fine, and two (one off list) recommending i686/pentiumpro. One > for pentiumpro and the other for i686, but as Andreas Rudish > helpfully pointed out, those two are probably the same thing. No > one suggested using c3. In fact, cpghost emphatically stated not to > use C3 in make.conf > > Adbullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri also helpfully directed me for > information about safe CFLAGS to > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags > > where the entry for the Via Nehemiah says: > > ============================================================== > Nehemiah (C5XL)/C5P (Via) > > CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" > CFLAGS="-march=i686 -msse -mmmx -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" > > note: The more recent versions of the C3 do support the cmov > instruction and hence -march=i686. If you must be compatible with > all VIA C3 versions, do not use the settings in this section. > > note: it is also possible to use "-march=c3-2". <-- Comment to this: > I got a problem "compiler can't create executables" with this setting. From: /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk . elif ${CPUTYPE} == "c3" MACHINE_CPU = 3dnow mmx i586 i486 i386 . elif ${CPUTYPE} == "c3-2" MACHINE_CPU = sse mmx i586 i486 i386 If you look at the screenshot of the CPUID window from the review linked by Garrett, it says the Nehemiah has sse but not 3dnow, which matches the c3-2 settings above. I would recommend that you comment out C[XX]FLAGS and try again with CPUTYPE=c3-2 FreeBSD isn't Gentoo, and using Gentoo's settings may cause trouble in the long-term. If you set CPUTYPE properly, FreeBSD will normally come-up with sensible optimizations. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:44:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5920916A40B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5E513C483 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FE31A4D93; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 576535152C; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:44:48 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Nino Ivanov Message-ID: <20070316164447.GA94440@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> <000801c767bb$486f56b0$5300000a@HAL9000> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c767bb$486f56b0$5300000a@HAL9000> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 'Josh Paetzel' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 'Kris Kennaway' Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:44:50 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:07:26PM +0100, Nino Ivanov wrote: > I tried to send to freebsd-questions the following twice, and twice failed!: > > Dear Sir or Madam, > > I tried reaching > > ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ > > from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to > input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like to > download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular behaviour, > and in any case, is there a way to download these images? > > NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I think. Probably it's just busy. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:48:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BE216A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9277913C44C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niivanov@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Mar 2007 16:48:06 -0000 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18OztZYXZMOEruyG4i6g1oDbmQ5k047RISsd/zvVY KtFfXUY+KPINFh From: "Nino Ivanov" To: "'Jerry McAllister'" , "'Ian Lord'" References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> <000801c767bb$486f56b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000b01c767ca$bc847300$358d5900$@ca> <20070316142835.GB75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:48:01 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c767ea$de8d9f60$5300000a@HAL9000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20070316142835.GB75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Thread-Index: Acdn13KAkH/afPioQze6qk85NdkvkAAESFvg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: 'Josh Paetzel' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 'Kris Kennaway' Subject: Failed ftp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: niivanov@gmx.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:48:08 -0000 Thank you very much for your suggestions. I succeeded in IE7, by not entering anything in the box. I entered: ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ Then, I clicked my way to the ISO-IMAGES directory. On the way it asked = me again with a login box. I tried with checking the box, but it did not = work. So I changed Anonymous to anonymous. I tried with the Microsoft-password ieuser@microsoft.com, and it worked. However, on a repeated try, = anonymous with my own niivanov@gmx.net as password would not work. Firefox, however, would fail, no matter what I do. Right now I am downloading disk1-kde. I don't know if it is important, = but I am using the net from my dorm, and there everything goes through some central machine. Is this relevant? Till now, all was just fine... -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu]=20 Gesendet: Freitag, 16. M=E4rz 2007 15:29 An: Ian Lord Cc: niivanov@gmx.net; 'Josh Paetzel'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; = 'Kris Kennaway' Betreff: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 08:58:00AM -0400, Ian Lord wrote: >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Nino Ivanov > Sent: 16 mars 2007 07:07 > To: 'Josh Paetzel'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: 'Kris Kennaway' > Subject: AW: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem >=20 > I tried to send to freebsd-questions the following twice, and twice failed!: Looks like both were posted. Why would you think it failed? ////jerry >=20 > Dear Sir or Madam, >=20 > I tried reaching >=20 > ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ >=20 > from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me = to > input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would = like to > download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular behaviour, > and in any case, is there a way to download these images? >=20 > NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I = think. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Nino Ivanov >=20 > Lol :) >=20 > In Ie7, just click the "log on anonymously" checkbox and press login >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:55:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C367216A406 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769FD13C4C5 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so626195ana for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MeOqvv/CmRKBQVu3AjFjts+3CZtAD04ovsFUr/HJOy9qGxPmErSXpZH8j0lwJAOI/C3WqD/ao9XO7yu2/KM/Qg1s+K0zKUye2+CkmaqCaoW3TWeUycq43zerHd6alPkQrOPgIhvr/Qs0911e9lzQc47HA15CtPRVLPvdf2eW25Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XUzSA9kl2tsT3CB4Rmx7eO/D7k1iw5OJmD7Ay4pKQmcsAJ28FN5XiiUvwcF1kiYNHJZXOfYCybfEoHXhguJQOSNfSNeRLREWnU3SJNr+tqe+xP49J/RKuUGr/ftDvJFFOdDoN5aRaE53w1tk7ZIixBnrXXBklLNdFJI4Tp+J6No= Received: by 10.100.165.9 with SMTP id n9mr1702949ane.1174064102753; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.111.5 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:55:02 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" To: "Jay Chandler" In-Reply-To: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Flash with Firefox 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:55:03 -0000 On 3/16/07, Jay Chandler wrote: > I can't be the first person to ask this, but a Google and a cursory > search of the archives don't lend me much in the way of hints. > > Anyone have a link or an explanation of how to get the Flash plugin > working within Firefox? I've gotten Java up already, but Flash > continues to elude me... I'm currently running 6.2-STABLE, firefox-2.0.0.2,1, linux-flashplugin-7.0r69 and linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_7 and flash plugin works well on most of the websites I've been. Here's the relevant part of my /etc/libmap.conf [/usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so] libpthread.so.0 libpthread.so.2 libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/flash7.so libz.so.1 libz.so.3 libm.so.6 libm.so.4 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/flash7.so Don't forget to add the symbolic links required: # cd /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/flashplayer.xpt . # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so . Hope this helps, > > -- > Jay Chandler > Network Administrator > Chapman University -- Pietro Cerutti - ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 16:58:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E0116A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF8213C483 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay5.apple.com (a17-128-113-35.apple.com [17.128.113.35]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2GGwvRa015153; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay5.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay5.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 927E729C002; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807123-9e850bb000000a66-33-45faccd1aee1 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay5.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 7941430400E; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <01ef01c767a0$9ecdbc60$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <200703141501.l2EF1e2Z267703@shell01.TheWorld.com> <00da01c766c2$dfaffdd0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <01ef01c767a0$9ecdbc60$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <96778FE4-DE4C-44A9-8A3E-4FC17F709816@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:58:56 -0700 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Ken Cochran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 & rel5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:58:58 -0000 On Mar 16, 2007, at 12:56 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> The use of "ln -s" will work just fine as written. I don't know why >> tzsetup makes a copy of the zoneinfo file rather than setting up a >> symlink, but making a copy simply allows the file in /etc to become >> out-of-sync if one updates the files under /usr/share{/lib}/zoneinfo >> without re-running tzsetup again. > > Maybe they want the timezone to be correct if you boot into > single user mode and don't mount /usr? *shrug*-- maybe, but if you don't mount /usr, the system isn't capable of running much which cares about the timezone. Even syslogd itself is under /usr/sbin.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:00:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295D916A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA37D13C459 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so628007ana for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:00:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tbmt8s0Q3aQtfwlZuFbypsZR2yOZuvGm1+kzCAXDpHrCUuVjr5JPJjAHfJaq1Gw/3x8V5oweBu8H5M4TFjDD0wwJtT3mp/1qRpuLqs7YMMpVgk8Qh+KpyBXlmWBmL2Hxp6FaH5QfuxfN5mNPWXNaq3wi7NdLTNcWOtJ73Iq/lbs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=P+gu0kMJf4LcNHUvvPyb0ZX9iqS2WdwmvLGlTWxQS0jC0/UaVOtBF0cfm22qi9Y1Und1rVfvSO8lGkD/kFa3fnOtnoDeo9uYKRWu3xBgdl+P782SjqaG5vEUxcn2hcrgQ4VCrMo3hlTgipZwAQ846hQC5SmIKaxO9q/6NmAxnBk= Received: by 10.100.139.9 with SMTP id m9mr1715171and.1174064453252; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.142.13 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <87f7f4170703161000le63a6c2i5e7d671bdb8beb5d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:00:53 -0400 From: "Jeremy Gransden" To: "Chris Maness" In-Reply-To: <45FAC664.2040606@chrismaness.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45FAC664.2040606@chrismaness.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rsync w/ Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:00:54 -0000 On 3/16/07, Chris Maness wrote: > > I need to sync a directory with my freebsd box. In linux/bsd I use the > command rsync -vaur chris@foo.com:/home/chris/beer /home/chris/beer and > this works perfectly for me. However, using the cwrsync package in > windows with this syntax does not work. > > Pleas help! > Thanks... > > -- > Chris Maness > (909) 223-9179 > http://www.chrismaness.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org You have to tell windows the full path including drive letter. This is what i use to sync Xp laptop to freebsd server: rsync.exe -r /cygdrive/c/z-test/ jeremy@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/home/jeremy/backup/ thanks, jeremy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:01:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D81516A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB2413C483 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4961A4DB8; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A9F3A5132C; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:01:32 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Message-ID: <20070316170132.GA21563@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000001c766e0$2e7b04b0$5300000a@HAL9000> <000001c7673a$381ac0f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <20070315195057.GA87966@xor.obsecurity.org> <200703151804.45718.josh@tcbug.org> <000001c767b7$5e92e5f0$5300000a@HAL9000> <45FA79F5.2070003@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45FA79F5.2070003@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with your ftp site X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:01:33 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:05:25PM +0100, Mike wrote: > Nino Ivanov wrote: > >Dear Sir or Madam, > > > >I tried reaching > > > >ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ > > > >from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to > >input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like to > >download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular > >behaviour, > >and in any case, is there a way to download these images? > > > > > No, there is a problem. This shouldn't happen normally: > > Name (ftp-archive.freebsd.org:porridge): anonymous > 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. > Password: > 530 Login incorrect. > ftp: Login failed. It's reached its user limit. Retry or use a client that will do this automatically. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:02:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id A1DD516A403; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20070316170200.A1DD516A403@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:02:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id AF40216A405; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20070316170200.AF40216A405@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:02:00 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:03:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED73216A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC61D13C4C2 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9A11A4DB6; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1D44B5132C; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:03:55 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Luca Masini Message-ID: <20070316170355.GB21563@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <45FA9CC0.4070200@web.de> <45FAB9FE.8000008@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45FAB9FE.8000008@web.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: config version = 600003, version required = 600004 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:03:57 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 04:38:38PM +0100, Luca Masini wrote: > Niclas Zeising wrote: > >Have a look in the handbook here: > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > > > >and here: > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html > > > >for instructions on how to rebuild/upgrade your kernel and system. > Will do! > :-P > > >Usually you have to upgrade userland along with your kernel or things > >will get out of sync and Bad Things(tm) will happen. > I don't want to upgrade the current system. > I only need to be able to compile a reference GENERIC of 7-CURRENT > in a user subdirectory. Running a 7.x kernel on a 6.x system is unsupported. You can do it, but some things won't work and it's for "advanced users only". A good alternative might be for you to run 7.0 under qemu. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:04:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E193B16A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A138913C48A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 716103802A; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:04:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F2437EF8; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:04:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (81-231-90-251-no41.tbcn.telia.com [81.231.90.251]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1803F37E55; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:04:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45FACE35.4010300@passagen.se> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:04:53 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Maness References: <45FAC664.2040606@chrismaness.com> In-Reply-To: <45FAC664.2040606@chrismaness.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rsync w/ Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:04:56 -0000 Hello Chris, May I suggest that you take a peek at http://www.itefix.no/phpws/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=6&MMN_position=23:23 As example I have the following syntax in my cwrsync.cmd (In this example I backup documents and settings from pc to FreeBSD by using the script cwrsync.cmd included in the cwrsync distribution. The script can be run with the windows scheduler) rsync --exclude-from=excludefiles.txt -avz --delete -e "ssh -i bin/.ssh/identify" "/cygdrive/c/documents and settings/username" user@freebsd.server.ip:/path/on/freebsd/server You will need to create a folder named .ssh in the bin folder of cwrsync and in that folder create the necessary ssh keys. Good luck! Chris Maness skrev: > I need to sync a directory with my freebsd box. In linux/bsd I use the > command rsync -vaur chris@foo.com:/home/chris/beer /home/chris/beer and > this works perfectly for me. However, using the cwrsync package in > windows with this syntax does not work. > > Pleas help! > Thanks... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:11:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EE216A412 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-242.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4771013C4BE for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2GHAsrT040453 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:10:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:10:49 -0500 From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070316121049.0b9d1c1a.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: $PATH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:11:00 -0000 i recently switched from KDE to XFCE4. underneath, i also switch my DM from kdm to slim. now that slim is operating, my paths have changed significantly when i log in via the GUI login. my current paths: [jhorne@athena ~]$ echo $PATH ./:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin conversly, if i log into this system via ssh or console, i get this (much better): [jhorne@athena ~]$ echo $PATH /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/jhorne/bin where can i got to change this so that i always have the second set of paths even when im in xfce? thanks! jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:13:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BAE16A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD7913C4C4 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D031A4DB6; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B5B8251870; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:13:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:13:50 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Robe Message-ID: <20070316171350.GB21701@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1173890222.15236.2.camel@robe-ubuntu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1173890222.15236.2.camel@robe-ubuntu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "elf_begin" returns NULL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:13:52 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:37:02AM -0500, Robe wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to create an object file (.o) using the "libelf" library. > Below appear the full source code. > > Does any body know why the "elf_begin" statement return NULL? This kind of technical question should be discussed on hackers@. Or since there is restricted experience with libelf, try CC'ing the author (jkoshy@) Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:27:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123C116A409 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B0B13C45E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:26:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9702ACE@www.fcimail.org> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DST Thread-Index: Acdn4SqJz/idwpABQ+KeZEiCdn78ggABASyAAALDi4A= From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Tamouh H." , Cc: Subject: RE: DST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:27:01 -0000 >=20 > Hi everyone, >=20 > I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving- >=20 > I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot=20 > the machine it still in the old time zone- >=20 > Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4 >=20 Paste the results of: zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 & date /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 06:59:59 2007 UTC =3D Sun Apr 1 01:59:59 = 2007 EST isdst=3D0 gmtoff=3D-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 07:00:00 2007 UTC =3D Sun Apr 1 03:00:00 = 2007 EDT isdst=3D1 gmtoff=3D-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 05:59:59 2007 UTC =3D Sun Oct 28 01:59:59 = 2007 EDT isdst=3D1 gmtoff=3D-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 06:00:00 2007 UTC =3D Sun Oct 28 01:00:00 = 2007 EST isdst=3D0 gmtoff=3D-18000 Fri Mar 16 13:26:27 EST 2007 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:33:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731B516A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from nlpi043.sbcis.sbc.com (nlpi043.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC6813C44B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) X-ORBL: [75.35.20.169] Received: from [192.168.4.2] (adsl-75-35-20-169.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [75.35.20.169]) by nlpi043.sbcis.sbc.com (8.13.8 out.dk.spool/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2GHXLTx028713; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:33:24 -0500 Message-ID: <45FAD4F2.9000809@chrismaness.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:33:38 -0700 From: Chris Maness User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roger Olofsson References: <45FAC664.2040606@chrismaness.com> <45FACE35.4010300@passagen.se> In-Reply-To: <45FACE35.4010300@passagen.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lcapps@cteresource.org Subject: Re: Rsync w/ Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:33:42 -0000 Roger Olofsson wrote: > Hello Chris, > > May I suggest that you take a peek at > http://www.itefix.no/phpws/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=6&MMN_position=23:23 > > > As example I have the following syntax in my cwrsync.cmd > > (In this example I backup documents and settings from pc to FreeBSD by > using the script cwrsync.cmd included in the cwrsync distribution. The > script can be run with the windows scheduler) > > rsync --exclude-from=excludefiles.txt -avz --delete -e "ssh -i > bin/.ssh/identify" "/cygdrive/c/documents and settings/username" > user@freebsd.server.ip:/path/on/freebsd/server > > You will need to create a folder named .ssh in the bin folder of > cwrsync and in that folder create the necessary ssh keys. > > Good luck! > > > >> Thank you. This works awesome. -- Chris Maness (909) 223-9179 http://www.chrismaness.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:34:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FE416A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:34:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62213.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62213.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 576CD13C480 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:34:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 10259 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2007 17:34:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=IbWTVUtrkI+/OfTHpx8H6zREwmzNEcSlj1GXuw73z/+DrMkJimfAP4X4aT5R2KUctzEfp87Hs+BMlfmqpKZqnY0j2UsZXouINp249BYwOKJt1X3yxxaMqtoy/+OPGoNK7Qhl76XMjNWhbiAwNi48/hxkze+ltcqHIrovXozym7o=; X-YMail-OSG: pPOR61UVM1mwmBf7N9O1iicUi8u_oZCLAFg8nyY6 Received: from [66.82.9.79] by web62213.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:34:04 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:34:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070316171348.GA76268@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <747837.8276.qm@web62213.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:34:05 -0000 How do I access it (through SSH) if it's unmounted? Drew2 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:11:58AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:16:33AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > > > 2Kevin Kinsey wrote:> > synch your source to 6.2 > > > > > > > > How? And is this necessary since it's already at 6.2? > > > > > > The command below, "cvsup -g -L 2 supfile". Assuming, of > course, that > > > the supfile is valid. Is it necessary? Depends; if you're convinced > > > that something is wrong with your current installation, then you might > > > not need to, because you can rebuild exactly the system that you > > > *should* have (for example, perhaps you fat-fingered a chmod or rm > > > call?). > > > > > Can you finally learn to break you lines at about 70 characters in length. > > Having them run on long makes it much more difficult to make responses. > > Most Email clients allow you to configure it to break lines. If yours > >does not, just hit a a RETURN/ENTER about there each time. > > Yahoo's new beta must be the problem. Let's see if the old yahoo system works. Just switched back. Let me know. > > > That I don't quite get. If you are just adding a disk to your machine, > > it is not likely to corript the rest of the system unless you execute > > something on that disk. > > Which I did. Trust me. I've ruled everything else out. It's the HD. > > > When you fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs it, it is > > wiped and the previous contents are gone. If you precede that with > > a nice dd to overwrite initial sectors with zeros, then it is even > > more wiped before you even get to the fdisk. > > Can I bsdlabel, newfs and fdisk that disk without wiping the other disks, > and do it remotely? Yes. You just have to have everything on that disk unmounted. Then you can run fdisk either directly or via sysinstall. I have lost track of where you have stuff you want to protect, etc, etc. But a separate disk that you want to wipe and start over again on can be fdisked, bsdlabeled and newfsed independently from the one you are booted from and not affect anything on any other disk and you don't need to be able to touch it, just unmount what is currently there. ////jerry > > > Or are you trying to add this disk to a mirror in such a way that > > the raid controller thinks it is the good disk and the other is > > corrupt and tries to rebuild the mirror with the contents of the > > added disk? That you don't want to do. > > That I am not doing. There are two other disks in the box that are SCSIs. > > > My thoughts are that something is happening that you haven't declared > > yet. An HD does not go out and zap files. That is like saying one > > book on a shelf skipped over and trashed the contents of another book > > on a shelf. > > You misread. The files were on the new HD. The "action scripts", or s/w that calls those dbase files, are on the SCSI drives. > > TIA, > Drew > > > --------------------------------- > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 17:49:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5074D16A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lcapps@cteresource.org) Received: from gershwin.cteresource.org (mail.cteresource.org [206.136.187.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A8B13C44C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lcapps@cteresource.org) Received: by gershwin.cteresource.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id D28411CC54; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hank.cteresource.org [192.168.1.130]) by gershwin.cteresource.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35121CC47; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:18:17 -0400 From: Lee Capps To: Chris Maness Message-ID: <20070316171817.GN15044@hank.cteresource.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Maness , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45FAC664.2040606@chrismaness.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45FAC664.2040606@chrismaness.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rsync w/ Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:49:20 -0000 At 09:31 Fri 16 Mar 2007, Chris Maness wrote: >I need to sync a directory with my freebsd box. In linux/bsd I use the >command rsync -vaur chris@foo.com:/home/chris/beer /home/chris/beer and >this works perfectly for me. However, using the cwrsync package in >windows with this syntax does not work. Do you get an error message when you run the command above? Since it appears you are able sync to the FreeBSD box from other machines, it sounds like this question is maybe a little OT here. You might have better luck asking the cwrsync folks. That having been said, here's what I know. At work we use cwrsync to backup some Windows boxes to a NAS sharing directories over samba. Our rsync looks more or less like this (cutting some switches for clarity): rsync -rvt --delete "/cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/lcapps" \ //SNAP203762/backups/staff/lcapps/pc_bak A couple of things -- are you sure you're specifying the "cygdrive" correctly? How are you accessing the remote box from Windows? SSH? (I don't have any experience using rsync that way.) Our Windows machines are already connected to the shared directory before rsync runs. Good luck, -- Lee Capps Technology Specialist CTE Resource Center From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 18:26:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3B516A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8984C13C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2GIRAhv040713 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:27:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2GIRAoo040712 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:27:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:27:10 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20070316182710.GA40666@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: Wrong dependencies.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:27:00 -0000 How can I convinced portmanager that some/most of these dependencies are incorrect? E.G.: both playmidi and ghostscript-aafpl have been pkg_deleted! WWhat utility do I need to run to update the ports/packages list? I have the regular ghostscript-gnu that I've had for 12 years... Any clues will be greatly appreciated!! gary ======================================================================== skipping ImageMagick-6.3.2.0_1 /graphics/ImageMagick until dependency ghostscript-afpl-8.54_1,1 updated skipping ghostscript-afpl-8.54_1,1 /print/ghostscript-afpl marked IGNORE reason: conflicts with another installed port skipping jre-1.1.8 /java/jre until dependency compat3x-i386-5.0.20020925 updated skipping compat3x-i386-5.0.20020925 /misc/compat3x marked IGNORE reason: port marked FORBIDDEN skipping playmidi-2.5 /audio/playmidi marked IGNORE reason: port marked IGNORE skipping bison-2.3 /devel/bison2 marked IGNORE reason: conflicts with another installed port -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 18:31:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225C716A5B0 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chandler.lists@chapman.edu) Received: from calais.chapman.edu (calais.chapman.edu [192.77.116.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC7613C480 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chandler.lists@chapman.edu) Received: from [206.211.142.43] (ist43.chapman.edu [206.211.142.43]) by calais.chapman.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73512E9E2 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45FAE289.8040507@chapman.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:31:37 -0700 From: Jay Chandler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070312) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chapman-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Chapman-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Chapman-MailScanner-From: chandler.lists@chapman.edu X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Flash with Firefox 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:31:41 -0000 Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On 3/16/07, Jay Chandler wrote: >> I can't be the first person to ask this, but a Google and a cursory >> search of the archives don't lend me much in the way of hints. >> >> Anyone have a link or an explanation of how to get the Flash plugin >> working within Firefox? I've gotten Java up already, but Flash >> continues to elude me... > > I'm currently running 6.2-STABLE, firefox-2.0.0.2,1, > linux-flashplugin-7.0r69 and linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_7 and flash > plugin works well on most of the websites I've been. > > Here's the relevant part of my /etc/libmap.conf > [/usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so] > libpthread.so.0 libpthread.so.2 > libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/flash7.so > libz.so.1 libz.so.3 > libm.so.6 libm.so.4 > libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/flash7.so > > Don't forget to add the symbolic links required: > > # cd /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins > # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/flashplayer.xpt . > # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so . > > Hope this helps, > >> >> -- >> Jay Chandler >> Network Administrator >> Chapman University > > Hmm... ===> Running ldconfig /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -r /compat/linux ELF binary type "3" not known. /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/linux-png. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/linux-realplayer. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper. What did I forget to install/adjust? :-) -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator Chapman University From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 18:40:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A2716A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tlt@tltodd.com) Received: from tltodd.com (tltodd.com [64.80.250.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D2113C45A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tlt@tltodd.com) Received: (from tlt@localhost) by tltodd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA47914 for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:38:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tlt) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:38:43 -0600 From: Terry Todd To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070316133843.A47732@badger.tltodd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Cc: Subject: ssh authorized_keys AND opie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:40:39 -0000 FreeBSD 6.2 ssh question: Is there a way to have sshd prompt for the authorized_keys passphrase and then also go on to require an opie password as well to authenticate the user? If so how would it be configured to work this way? I can make it do one or the other but haven't figured out how to make it do both. TIA, Terry Todd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 18:54:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5986416A40D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA7B13C48A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so622457wxc for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr2226992agz.1174071248438; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 8sm2629415wra.2007.03.16.11.54.07; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:54:05 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070316145405.510d2686@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070316182710.GA40666@thought.org> References: <20070316182710.GA40666@thought.org> Organization: Seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_gv/vWN1oI=YL8N6CwZK_GCj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Wrong dependencies.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:54:09 -0000 --Sig_gv/vWN1oI=YL8N6CwZK_GCj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:27:10 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > How can I convinced portmanager that some/most of these > dependencies are incorrect? E.G.: both playmidi and=20 > ghostscript-aafpl have been pkg_deleted! WWhat utility do=20 > I need to run to update the ports/packages list? I have the > regular ghostscript-gnu that I've had for 12 years... Any=20 > clues will be greatly appreciated!! Run 'make config' in the directory and uncheck: IMAGEMAGICK_GSLIB That should do it. Personally, I run the ghostscript-afpl version myself. On my system, the majority of programs that I use prefer that version. As far as 'bison' goes, what program is requiring it? I had the same problem once, forget what program it was, and I had to configure it to use the older version of 'bison'. I don't know of any graceful way around it. --=20 Gerard You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely. --Sig_gv/vWN1oI=YL8N6CwZK_GCj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF+ufNFCqdq4D1ybYRArVHAKCGewYVSRQPdu/swtj8QrsIOvlutACg1gps 3RGREjcyCs6e59IjzI8+ArY= =3NjV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_gv/vWN1oI=YL8N6CwZK_GCj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 18:55:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB45616A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d1945@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B75813C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d1945@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 75239 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2007 18:28:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=GgYkcBNqwxiS8NW5glRU7F0VO59cHbWsk9qMiol2vp4v+ffInBbl4PMFUavDPeGncQcBbIYKlks3crmHGQ0+XEMqahU8SyQk9Mdij9bsmfQhUaZ4pNtv9Uu0GkUX4wqnQTal+FvozlQivPgi8hzrkUl+qpaG0rOjftPfIVRp4Dc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO home) (d1945@sbcglobal.net@69.104.191.121 with login) by smtp113.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2007 18:28:31 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 4kkk8pAVM1leIygToIeDxePae6oJNdFB5ZtBqtumIzgCeAVIOy4mlBLvgEo7v8x4FuV9OKyL6mbWp6DE2vqKLVbADtNGds975WRcs5ANzc.pmSvBNBNMj1Kfk4OBI0CvgA65_FC.IivSfhg- Received: by home (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:28:30 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:28:30 -0800 From: George To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070316182830.GA1244@home> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <682271DA-A9C3-48E0-A18E-8546A7725864@goldmark.org> <20070315084846.GA15959@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <499c70c0703150316x67bd1783g53ad5f7d04ed2682@mail.gmail.com> <20070316163315.0201f326@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070316163315.0201f326@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: SUMMARY: CPUTYPE for VIA EPIA M-Series Mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:55:11 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 04:33:15PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:39:00 -0500 > Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > > > I've had two responses telling me that the make.conf defaults are > > just fine, and two (one off list) recommending i686/pentiumpro. One > > for pentiumpro and the other for i686, but as Andreas Rudish > > helpfully pointed out, those two are probably the same thing. No > > one suggested using c3. In fact, cpghost emphatically stated not to > > use C3 in make.conf > > From: /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk > > . elif ${CPUTYPE} == "c3" > MACHINE_CPU = 3dnow mmx i586 i486 i386 > . elif ${CPUTYPE} == "c3-2" > MACHINE_CPU = sse mmx i586 i486 i386 > > If you look at the screenshot of the CPUID window from the review > linked by Garrett, it says the Nehemiah has sse but not 3dnow, which > matches the c3-2 settings above. > > I would recommend that you comment out C[XX]FLAGS and try again > with CPUTYPE=c3-2 > > FreeBSD isn't Gentoo, and using Gentoo's settings may cause trouble in > the long-term. If you set CPUTYPE properly, FreeBSD will normally > come-up with sensible optimizations. The above is good advice, but I personally don't recall there ever being a c3 CPUTYPE designation. For example: $ grep -i c3 /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk $ sed q /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk ; uname -r # $FreeBSD: src/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk,v 1.48 2005/05/24 21:24:40 cognet Exp $ 6.1-RELEASE On other hand, from reading your headers: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) suggests to me that it may have been added to 6.2. If that's the case, then it merits being pointed out. Cheers. -- George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:12:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9556B16A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@designaproduct.biz) Received: from designaproduct.biz (135-shost.hostoffice.hu [195.228.74.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B3113C45B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@designaproduct.biz) Received: from [172.16.0.43] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by designaproduct.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DCE1DD422 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45FAEC25.2070102@designaproduct.biz> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:12:37 +0100 From: Laszlo Nagy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Xvfb + VNC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:12:43 -0000 Hello, I could install gdm with Xorg and vnc.so module loaded. This is fine, now I can access that X server with vnc. The problem is that the Xorg server needs a video card. So if somebody connects a montior to that server while I'm working from home then he/she will see what I'm doing. (I cannot restrict physical access to that computer, but I do not want others to see my desktop...) My idea is to create a virtual framebuffer server with Xvfb, and load vnc.so module there. Since vnc.so can be password protected, in theory, nobody will have access to that X session, except me. But I cannot do this. Xvfb(1) tells me that it has the same options that Xserver(1) has. The Xserver(1) does not tell me anything about loadable modules, but X is a symlink to Xorg. Well, Xorg has a -config option but Xvfb does not. :-( Does it mean that I cannot load "vnc.so" into the virtual framebuffer server? Is there a better solution? In my dreams: 1. I would run a virtual X server, that is not visible directly (not requiring any video card) 2. I would access this X server with some program remotely (preferrably VNC) 3. This remote access needs to be secure to some extent 4. This remote access should be fast enough to use through a DSL connection Can my dreams come true? Thanks, Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:16:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235C216A406 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from smtp.enternet.hu (smtp.enternet.hu [62.112.192.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60CF13C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:16:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from [62.112.200.239] (helo=[172.16.0.43]) by smtp.enternet.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4) id 1HSHub-000CzH-01; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:16:25 +0100 Message-ID: <45FAED0A.2050802@freemail.hu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:16:26 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TmFneSBMw6FzemzDsyBac29sdA==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Chandler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45FA4281.1010404@chapman.edu> <45FAE289.8040507@chapman.edu> In-Reply-To: <45FAE289.8040507@chapman.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Flash with Firefox 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:16:27 -0000 > > ===> Running ldconfig > /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -r /compat/linux > ELF binary type "3" not known. > /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/linux-png. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/linux-realplayer. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper. > > > What did I forget to install/adjust? :-) > You need to enable linux compatibility in rc.conf. Or just kldload linux Cheers, Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:17:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07CB16A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B7813C43E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GJHMgE076822; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:17:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2GJHMIO076821; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:17:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:17:22 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Drew Jenkins Message-ID: <20070316191722.GC76268@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070316153127.GI75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <344.20901.qm@web62206.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <344.20901.qm@web62206.mail.re1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:17:51 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:12:02AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:16:33AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > > > 2Kevin Kinsey wrote:> > synch your source to 6.2 > > > > > > > > How? And is this necessary since it's already at 6.2? > > > > > > The command below, "cvsup -g -L 2 supfile". Assuming, of > course, that > > > the supfile is valid. Is it necessary? Depends; if you're convinced > > > that something is wrong with your current installation, then you might > > > not need to, because you can rebuild exactly the system that you > > > *should* have (for example, perhaps you fat-fingered a chmod or rm > > > call?). > > > > > Can you finally learn to break you lines at about 70 characters in length. > > Having them run on long makes it much more difficult to make responses. > > Most Email clients allow you to configure it to break lines. If yours > >does not, just hit a a RETURN/ENTER about there each time. > > Yahoo's new beta must be the problem. Let's see if the old yahoo system works. Just switched back. Let me know. > > > That I don't quite get. If you are just adding a disk to your machine, > > it is not likely to corript the rest of the system unless you execute > > something on that disk. > > Which I did. Trust me. I've ruled everything else out. It's the HD. > > > When you fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs it, it is > > wiped and the previous contents are gone. If you precede that with > > a nice dd to overwrite initial sectors with zeros, then it is even > > more wiped before you even get to the fdisk. > > Can I bsdlabel, newfs and fdisk that disk without wiping the other disks, and do it remotely? > > > Or are you trying to add this disk to a mirror in such a way that > > the raid controller thinks it is the good disk and the other is > > corrupt and tries to rebuild the mirror with the contents of the > > added disk? That you don't want to do. > > That I am not doing. There are two other disks in the box that are SCSIs. > > > My thoughts are that something is happening that you haven't declared > > yet. An HD does not go out and zap files. That is like saying one > > book on a shelf skipped over and trashed the contents of another book > > on a shelf. > > You misread. The files were on the new HD. The "action scripts", or s/w > that calls those dbase files, are on the SCSI drives. That is a much bigger problem then. You can't just go and rebuild stuff and expect to keep the files on that disk. You might be able to used fdisk if the slice table got smuched and if you put back exactly what was originally there. You might even be able to use bsdlabel to fix a partition table, again if the new was exactly the same as the old, but I am not sure of that. You must not attempt to build filesystems on the disk with newfs or then all will be gone and beyond recovery except by those very expensive spy type folk that try to get secret information from overwritten storage. But, what you are describing is not a corrupt OS. It is a problem with reading information from a disk. I have responded to several different people lately on similar issues and can't remember which is which. If it is a bad space on disk, then you are going to have to reconstruct the date by reading as much as you can and putting it together the hard way. If it is some incompatibilty the file system versions between how it written and being read, you need to track down just how it was written and try to bridge the difference. ////jerry > > TIA, > Drew > > > --------------------------------- > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:22:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701B816A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonmaster@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6101B13C448 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonmaster@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so670366ana for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:22:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GPCTlSuu86Q0EzLwsf7oXJKcqea0pTXTKzUYpRq5qT4Xxj/kJ5vCNjZxlaijMbxKhwmjScSa5c7ihqMtIoMM5zxX5v5L/lyTVlTS7XnKdBF1FkqH7lPGSIhf2wEyZX0Z+KFA0ksykWEdVDx06otU9fEnwlnMw9BQQvrvtKR1BS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WHw2xNZFX9kaDEkKrAbzvKtIJ/VyG4dFmwSh9oWP25JDxAf8Lign/ofWLJDyyBttcA6tqHe9iAFunnDarq/SlJvVobe2Z17nJD2dqKaaCCCdjh8Kw5LT5emgAE6Nxa5dnFGfrj4UsZOvDKe904leuXNyRDvcz6zIcfgP7xYqAdY= Received: by 10.100.197.15 with SMTP id u15mr1808150anf.1174072957779; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.164.19 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1455a3d90703161222t6843672cuf585e0dd7c6c94c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:22:37 -0300 From: freenity To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070315114403.63b2b7ba.ariff@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1455a3d90703141418ldcfb33al5411eed4c3a8b71a@mail.gmail.com> <200703142316.18842.pieter@degoeje.nl> <1455a3d90703141556g1c4a0bbbvc18672bcfb2a4973@mail.gmail.com> <660DD7E4-AEBB-4451-A262-AAF3707A0C2C@mac.com> <1455a3d90703141612k50850957n75957e66f92d03af@mail.gmail.com> <20070315114403.63b2b7ba.ariff@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:22:39 -0000 ok. I downloaded this. and copied the file snd_hda to /boot/kernel and /boot/GENERIC then I executed kldload snd_hda but there was this error: -- can't load snd_hda: Exec format error -- On 3/15/07, Ariff Abdullah wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:12:35 -0300 > freenity wrote: > > yes multimedia worked. output: > > > > > > $ pciconf -vl | grep -iB 4 multimedia > > class = bridge > > subclass = PCI-PCI > > none11@pci0:16:1: class=0x040300 card=0xcb8410de > > chip=0x026c10de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' > > class = multimedia > > $ > > > > This require snd_hda , not snd_ich. > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/lowlatency/sndkld_releng6_amd64_lowlatency.tar.gz > > > -- > Ariff Abdullah > FreeBSD > > ... Recording in stereo is obviously too advanced > and confusing for us idiot ***** users :P ........ > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:30:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from misaki (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 804E516A400; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:30:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ariff@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:30:45 +0800 From: Ariff Abdullah To: freenity Message-Id: <20070317033045.54d468e1.ariff@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <1455a3d90703161222t6843672cuf585e0dd7c6c94c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1455a3d90703141418ldcfb33al5411eed4c3a8b71a@mail.gmail.com> <200703142316.18842.pieter@degoeje.nl> <1455a3d90703141556g1c4a0bbbvc18672bcfb2a4973@mail.gmail.com> <660DD7E4-AEBB-4451-A262-AAF3707A0C2C@mac.com> <1455a3d90703141612k50850957n75957e66f92d03af@mail.gmail.com> <20070315114403.63b2b7ba.ariff@FreeBSD.org> <1455a3d90703161222t6843672cuf585e0dd7c6c94c3@mail.gmail.com> Organization: FreeBSD X-Mailer: /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/net/smtp.rb Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Sat__17_Mar_2007_03_30_45_+0800_.3EFVBc0HV9eUn_s" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:30:59 -0000 --Signature=_Sat__17_Mar_2007_03_30_45_+0800_.3EFVBc0HV9eUn_s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:22:37 -0300 freenity wrote: > ok. I downloaded this. and copied the file snd_hda to /boot/kernel > and /boot/GENERIC > then I executed kldload snd_hda but there was this error: >=20 > can't load snd_hda: Exec format error >=20 http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/lowlatency/ Please read the README, there. -- Ariff Abdullah FreeBSD ... Recording in stereo is obviously too advanced and confusing for us idiot ***** users :P ........ --Signature=_Sat__17_Mar_2007_03_30_45_+0800_.3EFVBc0HV9eUn_s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF+vBllr+deMUwTNoRAtsXAJkBQGE2Tos5CJQhsrnKJuN6lvi9WwCfad6d WM6UFm8aHomMwwDUGHC+7Bc= =UO8T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sat__17_Mar_2007_03_30_45_+0800_.3EFVBc0HV9eUn_s-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:35:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAF716A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A38B13C44C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn07.u.washington.edu (hymn07.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.53]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GJZDDA027587 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:35:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn07.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GJZDkH021992 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:35:13 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.1] by hymn07.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:35:13 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:35:13 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070316161325.C62317@gwdu60.gwdg.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.16.122434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: nfsiod && nfs_client_flags X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:35:14 -0000 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Konrad Heuer wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > after replacing 4.11-RELEASE by 6.1-RELEASE on most of my systems I just > remembered the rc.conf variable "nfs_client_flags" which I used under 4.x to > raise the number of nfsiod's on heavily loaded systems. I can't find > nfs_client_flags in 6.1 although the man page of nfsiod still documents the > "-n" flag. > > Is there any reason for this? > > Thanks for any reply! > > Best regards > Konrad Heuer > GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de man rc.conf will provide you with any updates to rc.conf. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:41:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E3216A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (pool-71-245-104-192.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.245.104.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40E013C480 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (localhost.home.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GJfhbj025126 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:41:44 -0700 Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with UUCP id l2GJfhLR025118 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:41:43 -0700 Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id TAA09860; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:40:31 GMT Message-Id: <200703161940.TAA09860@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:36:44 EDT." <20070315203644.GA71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:40:31 +0100 From: Dieter Subject: Re: burncd makes disk that is unmountable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:41:46 -0000 > > AMD64 running 6.0 > > Drive is: > > acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA66 > > Media is CD-RW > > > > Burned a 6.2 disk using: > > burncd data 6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fixate > > as suggested in > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html > > I don't remember the details, but when I got to 6.1, I found that > my old burncd parameters would not work and I had to change them. > > I don't remember the details, but I settled upon: > /usr/sbin/burncd -v -f /dev/acd0 data FreeBSD62-disc1.iso fixate > which seems to work find. Both boots and mounts. That doesn't look > materially different from yours, but... It is defaulting to the correct device. > > Seemed to go okay. Disk boots, but I cannot mount it: > > > > fstab entry: > > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > > > Yields: > > g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5 > > > > Tried it with and without "fixate", neither will mount. > > > > Other iso disks (probably burned using NetBSD) mount fine. > > UFS DVD+RW disks burned under FreeBSD using growisofs mount fine. > > > > Given the error message, I assume that the block/sector at 32768 isn't > > getting written. New data: NetBSD mounts both disks (with and without "fixate") just fine. So perhaps the problem is with FreeBSD's mount rather than burncd? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:42:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB6916A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF32113C458 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn07.u.washington.edu (hymn07.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.53]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GJghbx021426 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:42:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn07.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GJghM5031180 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:42:43 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.1] by hymn07.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:42:43 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:42:43 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070316121049.0b9d1c1a.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.16.123433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: $PATH problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:42:44 -0000 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Jonathan Horne wrote: > i recently switched from KDE to XFCE4. underneath, i also switch my DM from kdm to slim. now that slim is operating, my paths have changed significantly when i log in via the GUI login. my current paths: > > [jhorne@athena ~]$ echo $PATH > ./:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin > > conversly, if i log into this system via ssh or console, i get this (much better): > > [jhorne@athena ~]$ echo $PATH > /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/jhorne/bin > > where can i got to change this so that i always have the second set of paths even when im in xfce? thanks! > > jonathan Not sure about "slim" but I would assume that it's seriously monkeying around with your path variables, so I'd check the config file for the DM. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:48:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CED016A405 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03E213C457 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so365152nfc for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=FhBv75vUNVjSSk1WRnTRnsSB8z4LH9a9/g39rF+RuWzYeKgGFonmDqmSR9PsLh2xtFRkpFZCrM/ARYFdgBqZZfIsJOjfPE6dWuHvtmopLJaO4cl63aoI03Ka0iXYtsiZsSi51640TtTnrgJDRKiqfiptz638hfnMwU5u7cZfh6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=fDmeA1PgEEUV1GEmZajUFxQ2O0UJLBfYfyDEDf+QWUVVYyipfbmwIkJCbwEeh1LDJdiIK3IS8KL+GfuVx9WtR8mnG8JV7+fFjqlHnURirwDN1YaiEo3GTCrA/g0vwnbH24GrtZK7SS1HTpVw/2y8e/18EpDF9DWbAVUyydMZlHU= Received: by 10.82.152.16 with SMTP id z16mr3881416bud.1174074488782; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90703161248p7ddf9aefxf766ef482b6036cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:48:08 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "John Nielsen" In-Reply-To: <200703161208.49305.lists@jnielsen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90703131212m731986b1p8603a86eca00d6b2@mail.gmail.com> <200703131541.52223.lists@jnielsen.net> <539c60b90703160818v377b9d6fia4e2b8c0fd610f6a@mail.gmail.com> <200703161208.49305.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7fdc72e7348bfbf0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mirror without destroying existing contents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:48:11 -0000 On 3/16/07, John Nielsen wrote: > On Friday 16 March 2007 11:18, Steve Franks wrote: > > I get the following: > > > > #gmirror label -v -b split -s 1024 data ad0 > > can't store metadata on ad0: operation not permitted. > > That most likely means that you currently have a filesystem on ad0 mounted. If > that's the case you should be glad that the OS was smarter than you. What > steps had you taken prior to this? > It appears to say in the manpage that you can do this on a disk with an existing filesys - would you expect it to work if the disk is unmounted first, then? Steve man gmirror: "Create a mirror on disk with valid data (note that the last sector of the disk will be overwritten). Add another disk to this mirror, so it will be synchronized with existing disk: gmirror label -v -b round-robin data da0 gmirror insert data da1 " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:48:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EC416A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonmaster@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E5A13C468 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonmaster@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so677776ana for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:48:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=K/DJaxout2rkxSmTG77A8eD+niGlTNBGyYDph+2GJiCBCIgR71TGMiz8BeiSu28jougl4MYtQuAZrj0zCB0CKCOyn6fVttlk+Kwtw+FFJDT1OwjxSZ2f9kjAdYUdAK1jO1nAqh0JK/7A0qOT4ErO6HhOhIrbC86Rn7ZYCi2R/kw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CDFBzqdrUWHLIW4EoE8FzGt0okrh0yshe/tOCLXBErPYCoxx53IRdRvPpTm3LLbaLZXFwTSoq6EgR8Cm8tCGt6hodCyX+3+GCStbFr7zaV68Hpv8yvuKpQovszwW3Q5NBd5ztRcHSuX3S48f6LyaHnXCoBp2t6PZv8WOXFvvscU= Received: by 10.100.111.16 with SMTP id j16mr1831537anc.1174074500335; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.164.19 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1455a3d90703161248h695fe432oc7300b75e42e2c3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:48:20 -0300 From: freenity To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070317033045.54d468e1.ariff@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1455a3d90703141418ldcfb33al5411eed4c3a8b71a@mail.gmail.com> <200703142316.18842.pieter@degoeje.nl> <1455a3d90703141556g1c4a0bbbvc18672bcfb2a4973@mail.gmail.com> <660DD7E4-AEBB-4451-A262-AAF3707A0C2C@mac.com> <1455a3d90703141612k50850957n75957e66f92d03af@mail.gmail.com> <20070315114403.63b2b7ba.ariff@FreeBSD.org> <1455a3d90703161222t6843672cuf585e0dd7c6c94c3@mail.gmail.com> <20070317033045.54d468e1.ariff@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: sound drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:48:21 -0000 Thanks a lot guys, it works now :) On 3/16/07, Ariff Abdullah wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:22:37 -0300 > freenity wrote: > > ok. I downloaded this. and copied the file snd_hda to /boot/kernel > > and /boot/GENERIC > > then I executed kldload snd_hda but there was this error: > > > > can't load snd_hda: Exec format error > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/lowlatency/ > > Please read the README, there. > > > -- > Ariff Abdullah > FreeBSD > > ... Recording in stereo is obviously too advanced > and confusing for us idiot ***** users :P ........ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:55:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EC616A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8551013C459 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn07.u.washington.edu (hymn07.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.53]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GJtKGq001363 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:55:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn07.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GJtKIH014743 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:55:20 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.1] by hymn07.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:55:20 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:55:20 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <747837.8276.qm@web62213.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.16.124433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:55:21 -0000 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Drew Jenkins wrote: > How do I access it (through SSH) if it's unmounted? > Drew2 > > Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:11:58AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > >> Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:16:33AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: >> >>> 2Kevin Kinsey wrote:> > synch your source to 6.2 >>> > > >>> > > How? And is this necessary since it's already at 6.2? >>> > >>> > The command below, "cvsup -g -L 2 supfile". Assuming, of > course, that >>> > the supfile is valid. Is it necessary? Depends; if you're convinced >>> > that something is wrong with your current installation, then you might >>> > not need to, because you can rebuild exactly the system that you >>> > *should* have (for example, perhaps you fat-fingered a chmod or rm >>> > call?). >>> >> >>> Can you finally learn to break you lines at about 70 characters in length. >>> Having them run on long makes it much more difficult to make responses. >>> Most Email clients allow you to configure it to break lines. If yours >>> does not, just hit a a RETURN/ENTER about there each time. >> >> Yahoo's new beta must be the problem. Let's see if the old yahoo system works. Just switched back. Let me know. >> >>> That I don't quite get. If you are just adding a disk to your machine, >>> it is not likely to corript the rest of the system unless you execute >>> something on that disk. >> >> Which I did. Trust me. I've ruled everything else out. It's the HD. >> >>> When you fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs it, it is >>> wiped and the previous contents are gone. If you precede that with >>> a nice dd to overwrite initial sectors with zeros, then it is even >>> more wiped before you even get to the fdisk. >> >> Can I bsdlabel, newfs and fdisk that disk without wiping the other disks, >> and do it remotely? > > Yes. You just have to have everything on that disk unmounted. > Then you can run fdisk either directly or via sysinstall. I have > lost track of where you have stuff you want to protect, etc, etc. > But a separate disk that you want to wipe and start over again on > can be fdisked, bsdlabeled and newfsed independently from the one > you are booted from and not affect anything on any other disk and > you don't need to be able to touch it, just unmount what is > currently there. > > ////jerry > >> >>> Or are you trying to add this disk to a mirror in such a way that >>> the raid controller thinks it is the good disk and the other is >>> corrupt and tries to rebuild the mirror with the contents of the >>> added disk? That you don't want to do. >> >> That I am not doing. There are two other disks in the box that are SCSIs. >> >>> My thoughts are that something is happening that you haven't declared >>> yet. An HD does not go out and zap files. That is like saying one >>> book on a shelf skipped over and trashed the contents of another book >>> on a shelf. >> >> You misread. The files were on the new HD. The "action scripts", or s/w that calls those dbase files, are on the SCSI drives. >> >> TIA, >> Drew In true grumpier old men style: "you mount the disk son :)" (after logging in via ssh). Jerry can provide you with the RAID specific details. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 19:56:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB99716A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE5F13C44C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l2GJuLXl029627; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:56:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:56:28 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <539c60b90703131212m731986b1p8603a86eca00d6b2@mail.gmail.com> <200703161208.49305.lists@jnielsen.net> <539c60b90703161248p7ddf9aefxf766ef482b6036cd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703161248p7ddf9aefxf766ef482b6036cd@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703161556.28792.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Steve Franks Subject: Re: mirror without destroying existing contents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:56:23 -0000 On Friday 16 March 2007 15:48, Steve Franks wrote: > On 3/16/07, John Nielsen wrote: > > On Friday 16 March 2007 11:18, Steve Franks wrote: > > > I get the following: > > > > > > #gmirror label -v -b split -s 1024 data ad0 > > > can't store metadata on ad0: operation not permitted. > > > > That most likely means that you currently have a filesystem on ad0 > > mounted. If that's the case you should be glad that the OS was smarter > > than you. What steps had you taken prior to this? > > It appears to say in the manpage that you can do this on a disk with > an existing filesys - would you expect it to work if the disk is > unmounted first, then? > > Steve > > man gmirror: > "Create a mirror on disk with valid data (note that the last sector of the > disk will be overwritten). Add another disk to this mirror, so it > will be synchronized with existing disk: > > gmirror label -v -b round-robin data da0 > gmirror insert data da1 > " I would expect it to, yes. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 20:04:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0A816A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A7113C44B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn07.u.washington.edu (hymn07.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.53]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GK4Gxc025569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:04:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn07.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GK4GQr024910 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:04:16 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.1] by hymn07.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:04:16 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:04:16 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200703161940.TAA09860@sopwith.solgatos.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.16.125434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: burncd makes disk that is unmountable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:04:17 -0000 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Dieter wrote: >>> AMD64 running 6.0 >>> Drive is: >>> acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA66 >>> Media is CD-RW >>> >>> Burned a 6.2 disk using: >>> burncd data 6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fixate >>> as suggested in >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html >> >> I don't remember the details, but when I got to 6.1, I found that >> my old burncd parameters would not work and I had to change them. >> >> I don't remember the details, but I settled upon: >> /usr/sbin/burncd -v -f /dev/acd0 data FreeBSD62-disc1.iso fixate >> which seems to work find. Both boots and mounts. That doesn't look >> materially different from yours, but... > > It is defaulting to the correct device. > >>> Seemed to go okay. Disk boots, but I cannot mount it: >>> >>> fstab entry: >>> /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 >>> >>> Yields: >>> g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5 >>> >>> Tried it with and without "fixate", neither will mount. >>> >>> Other iso disks (probably burned using NetBSD) mount fine. >>> UFS DVD+RW disks burned under FreeBSD using growisofs mount fine. >>> >>> Given the error message, I assume that the block/sector at 32768 isn't >>> getting written. > > New data: NetBSD mounts both disks (with and without "fixate") just fine. > So perhaps the problem is with FreeBSD's mount rather than burncd? Typing in mount yields what options with NetBSD? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 20:17:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B9E16A405 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FA313C457 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:17:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2GKHsvo024131; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:17:55 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <45FAFB6C.2050006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:17:48 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Poland References: <50887.69.129.174.18.1174061201.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: <50887.69.129.174.18.1174061201.squirrel@email.polands.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBFD0881B37079730B565DEB1" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:18:10 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90/2852/Fri Mar 16 18:25:32 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade and replacing apache 1.3.37 with apache 2.2.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:17:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBFD0881B37079730B565DEB1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I'm running FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE on an i386 test box with apache > 1.3.37/PHP-5/MySQL-5. As the subject says, I'd like to replace apache > 1.3 with apache 2.2. >=20 > I understand httpd.conf will change and that I'll have to edit that by > hand, but is there a portupgrade command that will remove 1.3.37, > install 2.2.4, and rebuild all apache dependent programs? >=20 > I'm thinking something like: >=20 > # portupgrade -R -f -o www/apache22 www/apache13-modssl >=20 >=20 portupgrade -o www/apache22 -rf apache13\*=20 will install apache22 in place of apache13-modssl and force a rebuild of everything that depends on apache13-modssl Putting=20 APACHE_PORT=3D www/apache22 WITH_APACHE2=3Dyes into /etc/make.conf before trying that is generally a good idea too. Note that this sort of command is not going to cover all of the edge cases. apache13-modssl has a different dependency tree to apache22 -- for example, libmm (devel/mm) is not needed by apache22. Having libmm floating around unused shouldn't break anything though. Not relevant to the OP, but if you were a mod_perl user, you would need to do a bit more work and install the www/mod_perl2 port in place of www/mod_perl when upgrading to apache22. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigBFD0881B37079730B565DEB1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+vty8Mjk52CukIwRCJpxAJ94+xNpkEQ+7SAwvWCXSLM1cCOquQCePJnk Vnz4DIAQvFNiqewmsGmFrCQ= =Ot4B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBFD0881B37079730B565DEB1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 20:33:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B3F16A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84D4013C487 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 54857 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2007 20:33:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=TAcnaSZ4eWPEu8BkY/nBQ3scBvY7mkcC8SE68Z1/HaVkgawg5I6KM5KnTDwgxIG1bIF/8rR1vH+Yz0lolMkG5wrsXqd7QW/GxVzDMA8O5x9Mlz25OivMVELwPgKe2NKK/o/VfQHw6kiNkxh4jAVz3FRA2ztiJ8eYKkVjV4XzkHE=; X-YMail-OSG: pxjIVUkVM1n0lZgp349qokg.XBEh00vkZQZblCIFbdZp._XZqEW7qWEw1iBT0_qUA1sH05WhNYVBbeHQ4gMosmvwyFqP2_fV6GNTWLsGjEmgIZpSpn1PYkzJtvzMdmxJ Received: from [69.19.14.43] by web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:33:42 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:33:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070316191722.GC76268@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <729157.54557.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:33:43 -0000 I believe you misunderstand. I have 3 disks: 2 are SCSI RAID and are 80 GB each 1 is not and is 500 GB I don't actually need the 500 GB now. I haven't even used up the 80 GB HD's. So I can wipe the 500 GB clean. I don't have to keep data on it at all. But...can I do that remotely, and run those commands remotely, with that disk being unmounted, and if so...how? The problem *is* a corrupt OS. I currently don't have any data on that 500 GB HD. And the problems persist. Sorry to have confused you. Are things clearer now? TIA, Drew2 Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:12:02AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:16:33AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > > > 2Kevin Kinsey wrote:> > synch your source to 6.2 > > > > > > > > How? And is this necessary since it's already at 6.2? > > > > > > The command below, "cvsup -g -L 2 supfile". Assuming, of > course, that > > > the supfile is valid. Is it necessary? Depends; if you're convinced > > > that something is wrong with your current installation, then you might > > > not need to, because you can rebuild exactly the system that you > > > *should* have (for example, perhaps you fat-fingered a chmod or rm > > > call?). > > > > > Can you finally learn to break you lines at about 70 characters in length. > > Having them run on long makes it much more difficult to make responses. > > Most Email clients allow you to configure it to break lines. If yours > >does not, just hit a a RETURN/ENTER about there each time. > > Yahoo's new beta must be the problem. Let's see if the old yahoo system works. Just switched back. Let me know. > > > That I don't quite get. If you are just adding a disk to your machine, > > it is not likely to corript the rest of the system unless you execute > > something on that disk. > > Which I did. Trust me. I've ruled everything else out. It's the HD. > > > When you fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs it, it is > > wiped and the previous contents are gone. If you precede that with > > a nice dd to overwrite initial sectors with zeros, then it is even > > more wiped before you even get to the fdisk. > > Can I bsdlabel, newfs and fdisk that disk without wiping the other disks, and do it remotely? > > > Or are you trying to add this disk to a mirror in such a way that > > the raid controller thinks it is the good disk and the other is > > corrupt and tries to rebuild the mirror with the contents of the > > added disk? That you don't want to do. > > That I am not doing. There are two other disks in the box that are SCSIs. > > > My thoughts are that something is happening that you haven't declared > > yet. An HD does not go out and zap files. That is like saying one > > book on a shelf skipped over and trashed the contents of another book > > on a shelf. > > You misread. The files were on the new HD. The "action scripts", or s/w > that calls those dbase files, are on the SCSI drives. That is a much bigger problem then. You can't just go and rebuild stuff and expect to keep the files on that disk. You might be able to used fdisk if the slice table got smuched and if you put back exactly what was originally there. You might even be able to use bsdlabel to fix a partition table, again if the new was exactly the same as the old, but I am not sure of that. You must not attempt to build filesystems on the disk with newfs or then all will be gone and beyond recovery except by those very expensive spy type folk that try to get secret information from overwritten storage. But, what you are describing is not a corrupt OS. It is a problem with reading information from a disk. I have responded to several different people lately on similar issues and can't remember which is which. If it is a bad space on disk, then you are going to have to reconstruct the date by reading as much as you can and putting it together the hard way. If it is some incompatibilty the file system versions between how it written and being read, you need to track down just how it was written and try to bridge the difference. ////jerry > > TIA, > Drew > > > --------------------------------- > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 20:35:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4956516A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-03.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9C813C45A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (cpe-65-31-40-34.woh.res.rr.com [65.31.40.34]) by ms-smtp-03.ohiordc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l2GKZX7b025657 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004901c7680a$c24238f0$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "Dave" To: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:36:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: optimizing squid and freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:35:35 -0000 Hello, Running squid on a 6.x box. I'm going to implement digest user authentication, and want to ensure squid is running optimally. Googling and reading "Squid the Definitive Guide" by Oreilly indicates that the file descriptors should be raised. I did a sysctl -a|grep maxfiles and found a value of 1440. It was suggested to increase this to 8192, which i did. I then found entries in /etc/login.conf that make me wonder if this change was necessary. All of these are set to unlimited in the default option: datasize, stacksize, memoryuse, filesize and openfiles (one of these the descriptors), maxproc, and Given this do i have to add an options maxfiles=8192 in my kernel config file? Any other suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave. sbsize. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 20:54:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A4416A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@shenton.org) Received: from shenton.org (static-71-246-241-106.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.246.241.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83FD713C44C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@shenton.org) Received: (qmail 22031 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Mar 2007 20:26:25 -0000 From: Chris Shenton To: "Chess Griffin" References: <13f052980703151751m5e89fb8dhc57fd594608e4b3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:26:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <13f052980703151751m5e89fb8dhc57fd594608e4b3d@mail.gmail.com> (Chess Griffin's message of "Thu\, 15 Mar 2007 20\:51\:01 -0400") Message-ID: <86odmtvssu.fsf@Bacalao.shenton.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce 4.4 and Thunar automounting of USB stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:54:03 -0000 When you try to open a Thunar window to look at some directory, does it work? It did for me on one box, once, but since thing the window comes up with a gray pane and two white panels then hangs, with "top" saying it's in state "kserel". I haven't been able to resolve this on the ports or thunar lists. :-( The one time I saw it work, it was able to mount USB drives automatically (in my case, a digital audio recorder). I didn't have to do anything special but I was running hald and friends. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 21:12:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DE416A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from talk.nabble.com (www.nabble.com [72.21.53.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B44A13C43E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:12:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from [72.21.53.38] (helo=jubjub.nabble.com) by talk.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HSJiT-0005Gg-RV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:12:01 -0700 Message-ID: <9522542.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:12:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Midori To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070307092900.5c02f901.coolzone@io.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: midori.aida@filogix.com References: <20070307092900.5c02f901.coolzone@io.dk> Subject: Re: An alternative to FOP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:12:07 -0000 Hi, Isn't it font issue? Because arabic char is over ascii. Have you tried to use org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader ? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/An-alternative-to-FOP-tf3360679.html#a9522542 Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 21:16:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2738F16A402 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from besquivel@immense.net) Received: from mail1.immense.net (mail.immense.net [216.93.243.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D922C13C45D for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from besquivel@immense.net) Received: from BRETLAPTOP (mail2.sciresearch.com [70.150.151.17]) by mail1.immense.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FD01D7845 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:54:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bret J. Esquivel" To: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: <00d301c7680d$4cb03b70$e610b250$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcdoDTTHUA/ds1IYT/WQcmTl4mYKQwAABKrw Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FW: /usr parition is empty! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:16:08 -0000 From: Bret J. Esquivel [mailto:besquivel@immense.net] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:54 PM To: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org Subject: /usr parition is empty! Help! I'm currently stumped at a client of mine. Their /usr partition on this 6.1 box is completely empty. The problem arose when no one could login due to the fact that /usr/bin/login was missing. Does anyone have any advice or information about this? I rebooted to single-user mode and mounted /usr without problems. It is only empty. Thank you very much in advance! Bret Esquivel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 21:29:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7430A16A401 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4324913C457 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GLSvex079530; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:28:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2GLSvNf079529; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:28:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:28:57 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Bret J. Esquivel" Message-ID: <20070316212857.GA79495@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <00d301c7680d$4cb03b70$e610b250$@net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00d301c7680d$4cb03b70$e610b250$@net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: /usr parition is empty! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:29:26 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 03:54:32PM -0500, Bret J. Esquivel wrote: > > From: Bret J. Esquivel [mailto:besquivel@immense.net] > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:54 PM > To: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org > Subject: /usr parition is empty! > > Help! > > I'm currently stumped at a client of mine. Their /usr partition on this 6.1 > box is completely empty. The problem arose when no one could login due to > the fact that /usr/bin/login was missing. Does anyone have any advice or > information about this? > > I rebooted to single-user mode and mounted /usr without problems. It is only > empty. Well, I wonder if it once was too full and so they moved it somewhere and either intended but failed to make a link or somehow the link got overwritten so it can't find the stuff. In otherwords, all the files and directory structure had been moved somewhere and there should be a link to it of the sort: ln -s /some/other/place /usr but the link is missing. If so, you just need to find out where it got put and make the link for it. Just one guess, ////jerry > > Thank you very much in advance! > > Bret Esquivel > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 21:37:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD0F16A530 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A54C13C44C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn07.u.washington.edu (hymn07.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.53]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GLbvdE020784 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:37:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn07.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2GLbvlQ009891 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:37:57 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.1] by hymn07.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:37:57 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:37:57 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <729157.54557.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.16.142434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:37:58 -0000 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Drew Jenkins wrote: > I believe you misunderstand. I have 3 disks: > 2 are SCSI RAID and are 80 GB each > 1 is not and is 500 GB > I don't actually need the 500 GB now. I haven't even used up the 80 GB HD's. So I can wipe the 500 GB clean. I don't have to keep data on it at all. But...can I do that remotely, and run those commands remotely, with that disk being unmounted, and if so...how? > > The problem *is* a corrupt OS. I currently don't have any data on that 500 GB HD. And the problems persist. Sorry to have confused you. Are things clearer now? > TIA, > Drew2 > > Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:12:02AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > >> Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:16:33AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: >> >>> 2Kevin Kinsey wrote:> > synch your source to 6.2 >>> > > >>> > > How? And is this necessary since it's already at 6.2? >>> > >>> > The command below, "cvsup -g -L 2 supfile". Assuming, of > course, that >>> > the supfile is valid. Is it necessary? Depends; if you're convinced >>> > that something is wrong with your current installation, then you might >>> > not need to, because you can rebuild exactly the system that you >>> > *should* have (for example, perhaps you fat-fingered a chmod or rm >>> > call?). >>> >> >>> Can you finally learn to break you lines at about 70 characters in length. >>> Having them run on long makes it much more difficult to make responses. >>> Most Email clients allow you to configure it to break lines. If yours >>> does not, just hit a a RETURN/ENTER about there each time. >> >> Yahoo's new beta must be the problem. Let's see if the old yahoo system works. Just switched back. Let me know. >> >>> That I don't quite get. If you are just adding a disk to your machine, >>> it is not likely to corript the rest of the system unless you execute >>> something on that disk. >> >> Which I did. Trust me. I've ruled everything else out. It's the HD. >> >>> When you fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs it, it is >>> wiped and the previous contents are gone. If you precede that with >>> a nice dd to overwrite initial sectors with zeros, then it is even >>> more wiped before you even get to the fdisk. >> >> Can I bsdlabel, newfs and fdisk that disk without wiping the other disks, and do it remotely? >> >>> Or are you trying to add this disk to a mirror in such a way that >>> the raid controller thinks it is the good disk and the other is >>> corrupt and tries to rebuild the mirror with the contents of the >>> added disk? That you don't want to do. >> >> That I am not doing. There are two other disks in the box that are SCSIs. >> >>> My thoughts are that something is happening that you haven't declared >>> yet. An HD does not go out and zap files. That is like saying one >>> book on a shelf skipped over and trashed the contents of another book >>> on a shelf. >> >> You misread. The files were on the new HD. The "action scripts", or s/w >> that calls those dbase files, are on the SCSI drives. > > That is a much bigger problem then. You can't just go and rebuild > stuff and expect to keep the files on that disk. You might be able > to used fdisk if the slice table got smuched and if you put back > exactly what was originally there. You might even be able to use > bsdlabel to fix a partition table, again if the new was exactly the > same as the old, but I am not sure of that. You must not attempt > to build filesystems on the disk with newfs or then all will be > gone and beyond recovery except by those very expensive spy type > folk that try to get secret information from overwritten storage. > > But, what you are describing is not a corrupt OS. It is a problem > with reading information from a disk. I have responded to several > different people lately on similar issues and can't remember which > is which. If it is a bad space on disk, then you are going to have > to reconstruct the date by reading as much as you can and putting > it together the hard way. If it is some incompatibilty the file system > versions between how it written and being read, you need to track down > just how it was written and try to bridge the difference. > > > ////jerry > >> >> TIA, >> Drew As long as the disk isn't in use, yes you can do this type of thing anytime you like. So unless I'm missing the boat here, why in the world has this thread gone on so long if it was this trivial of an issue? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 21:40:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602BE16A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D75B13C43E for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2GLeDW9079592; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:40:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2GLeDuq079591; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:40:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:40:13 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Drew Jenkins Message-ID: <20070316214013.GA79546@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20070316191722.GC76268@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <729157.54557.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <729157.54557.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:40:42 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:33:42PM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > I believe you misunderstand. I have 3 disks: > 2 are SCSI RAID and are 80 GB each > 1 is not and is 500 GB > I don't actually need the 500 GB now. I haven't even used up the 80 GB HD's. > So I can wipe the 500 GB clean. I don't have to keep data on it at all. > But...can I do that remotely, and run those commands remotely, with that > disk being unmounted, and if so...how? You can do it remotely. Once everything on that disk is unmounted and unreferenced, then fdisk and bsdlabel will be happy to work on it. The best documentation for that is down in the examples of the bsdlabel man page. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=32 fdisk -BI da0 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0s1 bs=512 count=32 bsdlabel -w -B da0s1 bsdlabel -e da0s1 Change the device names to be what yours really are (da0 may be ad3 or something. I also upped the count on the dd, but it doesn't matter. Follow this with a newfs for each partition except swap that you create on this disk. > > The problem *is* a corrupt OS. I currently don't have any data on > that 500 GB HD. And the problems persist. Sorry to have confused you. > Are things clearer now? Well, it seems clear that there is no problem with the 500 GB disk. You can just fdisk it. If you want, write a few blocks of zeros to it first to make sure the system believes it clean if you want. Probably shouldn't need to, though. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/extra-drive-name bs=512 count=250 As for the corrupt OS, I don't understand what that is and why you think that or whatever. ////jerry > TIA, > Drew2 > > Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:12:02AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 21:49:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4198116A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chessg@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B441013C44B for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:49:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chessg@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so1012016muf for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:49:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=myOwt64MgTmKPxFXjk3PixbjJTX1vnb6v/URPZ+1X05+xLnD3CAr6yjdgGsTy3Ri/3GFwoapUVomTsNlJhac4XTC59fEVJcod0C261kww2ldTwcAk3tfvPjz80ThD8+4Tc5PHHlh4VjmBCD1G8b9N2PENPtQ7ZrVeY1DcRy3Kz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=V0MQpzZuAefat44JOndeBFoH74L2X2xfxghHhmsRJOcuXh3E8upR38etkLVjWidylUWORniE6admq9KZTmjsiil5LxN80EvrVl8ht7j9wLfCi6/drdM4MxUioU9MpFaCwc5VNJZNPItfRQVNxtt/kKXRNZ6bLA37Xmt/kJW1+Vo= Received: by 10.82.163.13 with SMTP id l13mr4092330bue.1174081793700; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.145.14 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <13f052980703161449v1f4ae013s1a4ac1ec37dba440@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:49:53 -0400 From: "Chess Griffin" To: "Chris Shenton" In-Reply-To: <86odmtvssu.fsf@Bacalao.shenton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <13f052980703151751m5e89fb8dhc57fd594608e4b3d@mail.gmail.com> <86odmtvssu.fsf@Bacalao.shenton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce 4.4 and Thunar automounting of USB stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:49:56 -0000 On 3/16/07, Chris Shenton wrote: > > When you try to open a Thunar window to look at some directory, does > it work? It did for me on one box, once, but since thing the window > comes up with a gray pane and two white panels then hangs, with "top" > saying it's in state "kserel". I haven't been able to resolve this on > the ports or thunar lists. :-( > > The one time I saw it work, it was able to mount USB drives > automatically (in my case, a digital audio recorder). I didn't have to > do anything special but I was running hald and friends. > Chris, thanks for your reply. Yes, Thunar works just fine browsing the filesystem. It's just that nothing automounts like it's supposed to, and that includes both USB sticks and CDs. Should I post this in freebsd-ports as well? I don't want to double-post if the port maintainers also monitor this list as well. I may post in the thunar or xfce mailing lists, but I think this is a FreeBSD issue since the Thunar automounting works in various Linux distributions. I would really like to get this to work, but scouring google hits and mailing lists has turned up empty. :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 22:02:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6830B16A404 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C04613C459 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 60905 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2007 22:02:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=cjHhgnfclHrHlZ7je4knFne/mo1BWepM9NhsTXYPfHi7LpGSWbQwRp6wGRoh/uFg/ajkyzshf2T0GlEDSRMb7yH4wrUUCzxXafLCIRjpAJ2KEWmE82LCZIakgWS6Y+5QJO49aTzxuU9To5JqgcZMc2/dwRLpgXEzLV3EvwWrPz0=; X-YMail-OSG: AEDXGukVM1kKWaM.HzbW4x7SVpPGaRs6uimqRSO374PMBnCCpLzME6vuRPrXIrmLGv.oP19tJ_uyGy4DqKe.9Ru8z9fssk6VD25p52A.z2QWeJ9S37.wqqbFHa_6Wno7 Received: from [69.19.14.29] by web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:02:47 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:02:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070316214013.GA79546@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <942506.59434.qm@web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:02:49 -0000 Thanks! That's great! Here's why the OS is corrupt: 1) Suddenly, large data files which were on the 500 GB HD were wiped. I hadn't been working in anything associated with them for some time before that. They just disappeared. This is exactly what happened before on the old server, but then I had done something to damage it (entered a bad command). 2) Now, as then, quirky things are happening, forcing me to do work-arounds when none should be done, or to abandon projects I'd like to do. For example, I copied a MySQL database as another dbase with another name, wiped all the data from the new dbase, and copied a shopping cart app I've built in Zope to a new site I'm building. I entered new categories into the new dbase. However, when I surf to my interface in the new Zope site I'm building, the old cats appear! There's no connection whatsoever. Even the background color of the display pages is picked up from the old site, goodness knows how. If I use the Zope interface to enter data into the products table, it works, but with the old cats. If I enter data into that table through MySQL, it displays in the new Zope site. I had to hard-wire the new cats to get it to work. I still don't know why the bgcolor for the page is the same as the old site, either. This kind of crap happens over and over again, and I have no explanation.2 Last time, it screwed up my clients' email, something I'm loathe to do. Eventually, the whole system died on me. TIA, Drew Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:33:42PM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > I believe you misunderstand. I have 3 disks: > 2 are SCSI RAID and are 80 GB each > 1 is not and is 500 GB > I don't actually need the 500 GB now. I haven't even used up the 80 GB HD's. > So I can wipe the 500 GB clean. I don't have to keep data on it at all. > But...can I do that remotely, and run those commands remotely, with that > disk being unmounted, and if so...how? You can do it remotely. Once everything on that disk is unmounted and unreferenced, then fdisk and bsdlabel will be happy to work on it. The best documentation for that is down in the examples of the bsdlabel man page. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=32 fdisk -BI da0 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0s1 bs=512 count=32 bsdlabel -w -B da0s1 bsdlabel -e da0s1 Change the device names to be what yours really are (da0 may be ad3 or something. I also upped the count on the dd, but it doesn't matter. Follow this with a newfs for each partition except swap that you create on this disk. > > The problem *is* a corrupt OS. I currently don't have any data on > that 500 GB HD. And the problems persist. Sorry to have confused you. > Are things clearer now? Well, it seems clear that there is no problem with the 500 GB disk. You can just fdisk it. If you want, write a few blocks of zeros to it first to make sure the system believes it clean if you want. Probably shouldn't need to, though. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/extra-drive-name bs=512 count=250 As for the corrupt OS, I don't understand what that is and why you think that or whatever. ////jerry > TIA, > Drew2 > > Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:12:02AM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 22:22:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3372016A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pablo.fernandez@rs.com.ar) Received: from mail.reliable.com.ar (mail.reliable.com.ar [200.55.63.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C34413C457 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pablo.fernandez@rs.com.ar) Received: (qmail 10994 invoked by uid 1007); 16 Mar 2007 19:22:15 -0300 Received: from customer123-183-91.iplannetworks.net (HELO plab.bsas.rs.com.ar) (pablo.fernandez@reliable.com.ar@200.123.183.91) by mail.reliable.com.ar with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Mar 2007 19:22:15 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jos=E9_Pablo_Fern=E1ndez?= Organization: RS To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:22:11 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703161922.12086.pablo.fernandez@rs.com.ar> Subject: Logrotating and running a command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:22:18 -0000 Hello, I need to rotate some logs, but instead of getting the PID out of a file an= d=20 sending a SIGHUP to that process, like newsyslog does, I need to run a=20 command. Is that possible with newsyslog? how should I do it? Thank you. =2D-=20 Jos=E9 Pablo Fern=E1ndez pablo.fernandez@rs.com.ar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 22:24:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FE416A405 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@shenton.org) Received: from shenton.org (static-71-246-241-106.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.246.241.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 114FB13C487 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@shenton.org) Received: (qmail 22475 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Mar 2007 22:23:52 -0000 From: Chris Shenton To: "Chess Griffin" References: <13f052980703151751m5e89fb8dhc57fd594608e4b3d@mail.gmail.com> <86odmtvssu.fsf@Bacalao.shenton.org> <13f052980703161449v1f4ae013s1a4ac1ec37dba440@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:23:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <13f052980703161449v1f4ae013s1a4ac1ec37dba440@mail.gmail.com> (Chess Griffin's message of "Fri\, 16 Mar 2007 17\:49\:53 -0400") Message-ID: <86y7lwvnd3.fsf@Bacalao.shenton.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.93 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce 4.4 and Thunar automounting of USB stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:24:48 -0000 "Chess Griffin" writes: > It's just that nothing automounts like it's supposed to, and > that includes both USB sticks and CDs. > > Should I post this in freebsd-ports as well? I don't want to double-post if > the port maintainers also monitor this list as well. I may post in the > thunar or xfce mailing lists, but I think this is a FreeBSD issue since the > Thunar automounting works in various Linux distributions. Yeah, I'd try ports but I didn't get much useful feedback. I understand Thunar's developer is a freebsd guy so I posted on the thunar list too... but heard nothing. Good luck! Xfce and Thunar seem rather nice and lighter than the alternatives, I just wish they were a bit more stable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 22:48:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DE916A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5E013C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2GMm4DH087329; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:48:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45FB1E9F.4040403@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:47:59 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chess Griffin References: <13f052980703151751m5e89fb8dhc57fd594608e4b3d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <13f052980703151751m5e89fb8dhc57fd594608e4b3d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce 4.4 and Thunar automounting of USB stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:48:08 -0000 Chess Griffin wrote: > Hello! My first post to the list. :) > > I have FreeBSD 6.2 installed and running wonderfully. I have built > Xfce 4.4from ports and it too, is working very well, but I have one > problem -- the > new Thunar file manager does not auto-mount USB sticks. > I have installed Hal, Dbus, and polkit and have those 3 things enabled > in my > /etc/rc.conf. I also installed thunar and the thunar-volman plugin. > However, when I go to the "Advanced" tab in the File Manager settings > manager in order to activate the auto-mounting, it states "Build thunar-vfs > with HAL support to use the volume management support in Thunar." When I > built Thunar I did enable Hal support, and I can't find anything in > ports or packages about thunar-vfs. Hmm, which did you install first, HAL or Thunar? KDK -- I'm glad I was not born before tea. -- Sidney Smith (1771-1845) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 22:52:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B7116A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rostyslav@optonline.net) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AD713C458 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rostyslav@optonline.net) Received: from ool-18bb9d56.dyn.optonline.net (ool-18bb9d56.dyn.optonline.net [24.187.157.86]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JF0008OTQ7SHO80@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:52:39 +0000 From: Charlie & Root To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200703161852.39195.rostyslav@optonline.net> Organization: home MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_W+U6qfRGa1rnO+01LHRetA)" User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:53:39 +0000 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: HPLIP and FreeBsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:52:45 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_W+U6qfRGa1rnO+01LHRetA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline I have HP Office Jet 4315 All -in- one(USB). everething installed. Just one problem - Print Manager(HPlip) does not see= =20 this usb-printer. I'll appreciate a little help. Thankyou. here is some logs: 1) ool-18bb9d56# /usr/local/share/hplip/check HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 1.7.1) Dependency/Version Check Utility ver. 5.2 Copyright (c) 2003-6 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details. =2D-------------- | SYSTEM INFO | =2D-------------- Basic system information: =46reeBSD ool-18bb9d56.dyn.optonline.net 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0= : Fri=20 Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 =A0 =A0=20 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP =A0i386 Detected distro (/etc/issue): unknown 0.0 Detected distro (lsb_release): error: lsb_release not found. Currently installed HPLIP version... HPLIP 1.7.1 currently installed in '/usr/local/share/hplip'. Current contents of '/etc/hp/hplip.conf' file: # hplip.conf [hpiod] # port=3D0 (dynamic IP port) port=3D2208 [hpssd] # port=3D0 (dynamic IP port) port=3D2207 [dirs] run=3D/var/run [hplip] version=3D1.7.1 jdprobe=3D0 [dirs] home=3D/usr/local/share/hplip run=3D/var/run ppd=3D/usr/local/share/ppd/HP doc=3D/usr/local/share/doc/hplip-1.7.1 # Following values are determined at configure time and cannot be changed. [configure] network-build=3D1 pp-build=3D0 gui-build=3D1 scanner-build=3D1 fax-build=3D1 installinitd=3D chkconfig=3D internal-tag=3D1.7.1.5 home=3D/usr/local/share/hplip ppd=3D/usr/local/share/ppd HPLIP running? Yes, HPLIP is running (OK). HPOJ running? error: Yes, HPOJ is running. HPLIP is not compatible with HPOJ. To run HPLI= P,=20 please remove HPOJ. Checking Python version... OK, version 2.4.3 installed Checking PyQt version... OK, version 3.17 installed. Checking SIP version... OK, Version 4.5.2 installed =2D--------------- | DEPENDENCIES | =2D--------------- Checking for dependency libcrypto - OpenSSL cryptographic library... error: Not found! error: This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency= is=20 installed before installing or running HPLIP. Checking for dependency gcc - GNU Project C and C++ Compiler... OK, found. Checking for dependency SANE - Scanning library... error: Not found! error: This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency= is=20 installed before installing or running HPLIP. Checking for dependency GhostScript - PostScript and PDF language interpret= er=20 and previewer... OK, found. Checking for dependency libjpeg - JPEG library... error: Not found! error: This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency= is=20 installed before installing or running HPLIP. Checking for dependency libpthread - POSIX threads library... error: Not found! error: This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency= is=20 installed before installing or running HPLIP. Checking for dependency make - GNU make utility to maintain groups of=20 programs... error: Not found! error: This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency= is=20 installed before installing or running HPLIP. Checking for dependency python-devel - Python development files... error: Not found! error: This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency= is=20 installed before installing or running HPLIP. Checking for dependency Reportlab - PDF library for Python... error: Not found! This is an OPTIONAL dependency. Some HPLIP functionality may not function=20 properly. Checking for dependency PyQt - Qt interface for Python... OK, found. Checking for dependency cups-devel- Common Unix Printing System development= =20 files... error: Not found! error: This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency= is=20 installed before installing or running HPLIP. Checking for dependency ppdev - Parallel port support kernel module.... error: Not found! This is an OPTIONAL dependency. Some HPLIP functionality may not function=20 properly. Checking for dependency libusb - USB library... error: Not found! error: This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency= is=20 installed before installing or running HPLIP. Checking for dependency scanimage - Shell scanning program... OK, found. Checking for dependency libnetsnmp-devel - SNMP networking library developm= ent=20 files... error: Not found! error: This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency= is=20 installed before installing or running HPLIP. Checking for dependency Python 2.2 or greater - Python programming language= =2E.. OK, found. Checking for dependency LSB - Linux Standard Base support... error: Not found! error: This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency= is=20 installed before installing or running HPLIP. Checking for dependency xsane - Graphical scanner frontend for SANE... OK, found. Checking for dependency cups - Common Unix Printing System... OK, found. Checking for dependency Python 2.3 or greater - Required for fax=20 functionality... OK, found. =2D--------------------- | INSTALLED PRINTERS | =2D--------------------- hp =2D- Device URI: usb:/dev/unlpt0 Installed in HPLIP? No =2D--------------------- | SANE CONFIGURATION | =2D--------------------- 'hpaio' in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf'... Traceback (most recent call last): =A0 File "/usr/local/share/hplip/check", line 369, in ? =A0 =A0 f =3D file('/etc/sane.d/dll.conf', 'r') IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/sane.d/dll.conf' =A0 2) ool-18bb9d56# /usr/local/share/hplip/info HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 1.7.1) Device Information Utility ver. 3.4 Copyright (c) 2003-6 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details. warning: Inrecognized URI: usb:/dev/unlpt0 error: No devices found. error: Error occured during interactive mode. Exiting. 3) ool-18bb9d56# /usr/local/share/hplip/probe HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 1.7.1) Printer Discovery Utility ver. 3.1 Copyright (c) 2003-6 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details. warning: No devices found on the 'usb' bus. If this isn't the result you ar= e=20 expecting, warning: check to make sure your devices are properly connected. 4) ool-18bb9d56# tail -f /var/log/messages Mar 16 18:39:21 ool-18bb9d56 python: hp-info[2638]: warning: Inrecognized U= RI:=20 usb:/dev/unlpt0 Mar 16 18:39:21 ool-18bb9d56 python: hp-info[2638] error: No devices found. Mar 16 18:39:21 ool-18bb9d56 python: hp-info[2638] error: Error occured dur= ing=20 interactive mode. Exiting. Mar 16 18:40:23 ool-18bb9d56 python: hp-probe[2705]: warning: No devices fo= und=20 on the 'usb' bus. If this isn't the result you are expecting, Mar 16 18:40:23 ool-18bb9d56 python: hp-probe[2705]: warning: check to make= =20 sure your devices are properly connected. Mar 16 18:40:36 ool-18bb9d56 kernel: ulpt0: HP Officejet 4300 series, rev=20 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 255/204 Mar 16 18:40:36 ool-18bb9d56 kernel: ulpt0: using bi-directional mode Mar 16 18:40:51 ool-18bb9d56 python: hp-probe[2734]: warning: No devices fo= und=20 on the 'usb' bus. If this isn't the result you are expecting, Mar 16 18:40:51 ool-18bb9d56 python: hp-probe[2734]: warning: check to make= =20 sure your devices are properly connected. Mar 16 18:42:45 ool-18bb9d56 python: hp-setup[2872] error: No devices=20 found.Please make sure your printer is properly connected and powered-on. 5) ool-18bb9d56# dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The Regents of the University of California. All rights res= erved. =46reeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. =46reeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 =A0 =A0 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (3200.14-MHz 686-class CPU) =A0 Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" =A0Id =3D 0xf49 =A0Stepping =3D 9 =A0=20 =46eatures=3D0xbfebfbff =A0 Features2=3D0x641d> =A0 AMD Features=3D0x20100000 =A0 AMD Features2=3D0x1 =A0 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory =A0=3D 535121920 (510 MB) avail memory =3D 505544704 (482 MB) ACPI APIC Table: =46reeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs =A0cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: =A00 =A0cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: =A01 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Overriding SCI Interrupt from IRQ 9 to IRQ 21 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR unknown: I/O range not supported Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 acpi_throttle1: on cpu1 acpi_throttle1: failed to attach P_CNT device_attach: acpi_throttle1 attach returned 6 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff iomem 0xfff00000-0xffffffff = on=20 acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 nvidia0: port 0x2000-0x207f mem=20 0x31000000-0x31ffffff,0x20000000-0x2fffffff,0x30000000-0x30ffffff irq 18 at= =20 device 0.0 on pci1 nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atapci0: port=20 0x3068-0x306f,0x3084-0x3087,0x3060-0x3067,0x3080-0x3083,0x3030-0x303f mem=20 0x32107600-0x321077ff irq 23 at device 17.0 on pci0 ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 atapci1: port=20 0x3058-0x305f,0x307c-0x307f,0x3050-0x3057,0x3078-0x307b,0x3020-0x302f mem=20 0x32107400-0x321075ff irq 22 at device 18.0 on pci0 ata4: on atapci1 ata5: on atapci1 ohci0: irq 19 at device 19.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: ATI OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered ohci1: irq 19 at device 19.1 on pci0 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: ATI OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered ehci0: irq 19 at device 19.2 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: waiting for BIOS to give up control usb2: timed out waiting for BIOS usb2: EHCI version 1.0 usb2: companion controllers, 4 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: ATI EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pci0: at device 20.0 (no driver attached) atapci2: port=20 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3000-0x300f at device 20.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci2 ata1: on atapci2 pcm0: mem 0x32100000-0x32103ff= f=20 irq 16 at device 20.2 on pci0 isab0: at device 20.3 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pcib2: at device 20.4 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 rl0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x32000000-0x320000= ff=20 irq 21 at device 2.0 on pci2 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: =A010baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:16:76:6d:0a:5e atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77b irq 7 drq 4 = on=20 acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acp= i0 sio0: type 16550A pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x1 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ums0: vendor 0x15ca USB Optical Mouse, rev 2.00/5.12, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: CDRW <52X24X52 CD-RW 1.06 20030129/1.06> at ata1-master UDMA33 ad3: 286168MB at ata1-slave UDMA100 ad8: 305245MB at ata4-master SATA150 pcm0: pcm0: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad8s1a cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: < 52X24X52 CD-RW 1.06> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: cd present [90367 x 2048 byte records] ulpt0: HP Officejet 4300 series, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 255/204 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode One more thing, printer by itself works in KDE, but not with HPLIP --Boundary_(ID_W+U6qfRGa1rnO+01LHRetA)-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 23:02:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5DD16A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chessg@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4238513C4B8 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chessg@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so1031178muf for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:01:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=knIQINQE6x0E8ec3pC0rV1yCXgwkgVtv/UtC2pedWy/am2Um4C8nebWXO6W+VHUb3WMOPPtalonuVbpJTjfCqzNTWcWKCsT9d/GmFW8ym8fxYgiDMXgg73rXWa1juvboodJHbvwGqwBBSTvZAYT/7HfjpVxjytQT0v7l/Ljb3u8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iD3br42uXlXXsWiV/MfLcsak+SXJviMWkTDL9yuSXyhTg9wL+Mb1FD9cYJ0S9ijgll4gOUSgd8BN8ZaYJDUehXUs6tlMiQMR3WWGGjrPbP7KTXz66oDv3kE6dnrpcB5D9uykj1eBwFlx5y1YeeVYXWPg/pnLgg2dvlr8cYFLcmU= Received: by 10.82.107.15 with SMTP id f15mr4222258buc.1174086115208; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.145.14 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <13f052980703161601u7ff98698y2e48c5e5df9bc571@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:01:12 -0400 From: "Chess Griffin" To: "Kevin Kinsey" In-Reply-To: <45FB1E9F.4040403@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <13f052980703151751m5e89fb8dhc57fd594608e4b3d@mail.gmail.com> <45FB1E9F.4040403@daleco.biz> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce 4.4 and Thunar automounting of USB stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:02:01 -0000 On 3/16/07, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > I have installed Hal, Dbus, and polkit and have those 3 things enabled > > in my > > /etc/rc.conf. I also installed thunar and the thunar-volman plugin. > > However, when I go to the "Advanced" tab in the File Manager settings > > manager in order to activate the auto-mounting, it states "Build thunar-vfs > > with HAL support to use the volume management support in Thunar." When I > > built Thunar I did enable Hal support, and I can't find anything in > > ports or packages about thunar-vfs. > > Hmm, which did you install first, HAL or Thunar? > > KDK *doh!* I had installed Thunar first and then HAL... :) I just uninstalled Thunar and rebuilt it with HAL on the system. Auto-mounting works fine, now. Problem solved. Sheesh, I feel silly. Thank you, Kevin! Chess From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 23:29:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D003E16A404 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559BB13C455 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l2GNTPox019492; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:29:26 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:29:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070316102312.04601550@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070316102312.04601550@broadpark.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703170029.25066.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Kyrre =?iso-8859-1?q?Nyg=E5rd?= Subject: Re: Automating MERGEMASTER(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:29:30 -0000 On Friday 16 March 2007 10:32, Kyrre Nyg=E5rd wrote: > Hello, > > Is it possible to make MERGEMASTER(8) automatically replace files > with a FreeBSD CVS Id, and skip (or prompt interactively) the ones > without a FreeBSD CVS Id? The ones without are most certainly my own > personalized configuration files. I'd really like to keep them > intact. And on every MERGEMASTER(8) session I tend to replace every > single file but them. > > Thanks everyone! > > All the best, > Kyrre mergemaster -U Cheers, Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 23:44:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC7016A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rloefgren@forethought.net) Received: from mzpi4.forethought.net (mzpi4.forethought.net [216.241.36.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A434B13C44C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rloefgren@forethought.net) Received: from 206-124-7-199.denver.dsl.forethought.net ([206.124.7.199] helo=auden.jmla.com) by mz2.forethought.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.51) id 1HSM6T-0003CA-6r; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:44:57 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:46:41 -0600 (MDT) From: rloefgren@forethought.net X-X-Sender: rloef@auden.jmla.com To: "Bret J. Esquivel" In-Reply-To: <00d301c7680d$4cb03b70$e610b250$@net> Message-ID: <20070316174439.Q32014@auden.jmla.com> References: <00d301c7680d$4cb03b70$e610b250$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: /usr parition is empty! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:44:58 -0000 Check /etc/fstab; /usr might be a mountpoint for a filesystem on another drive in the localhost, or a completely different machine, although I suspect if that were the case you'd see some complaints in the bott output. Good luck, r On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Bret J. Esquivel wrote: > > > > > From: Bret J. Esquivel [mailto:besquivel@immense.net] > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:54 PM > To: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org > Subject: /usr parition is empty! > > > > Help! > > > > I'm currently stumped at a client of mine. Their /usr partition on this 6.1 > box is completely empty. The problem arose when no one could login due to > the fact that /usr/bin/login was missing. Does anyone have any advice or > information about this? > > > > I rebooted to single-user mode and mounted /usr without problems. It is only > empty. > > > > Thank you very much in advance! > > > > Bret Esquivel > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 23:49:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422D316A400 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF70213C448 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2GNnHqO046479; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:49:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2GNnFZ3046478; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:49:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:49:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Jorn Argelo Message-ID: <20070316234915.GA46390@thought.org> References: <45F9C6ED.2010306@wcborstel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45F9C6ED.2010306@wcborstel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: youshi10@u.washington.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:49:05 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:21:33PM +0100, Jorn Argelo wrote: > youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > >On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Danny Pansters wrote: > > > >Dan, > > I know that this has been discussed a few times before, but IMO > >running a slightly stripped down kernel (i.e. custom, not GENERIC) > >actually proves to be helpful in increasing boot times (if options > >were added statically) and compile times if [(# of options added) < (# > >of options in GENERIC)]. > I can confirm this too. I noticed on both desktop and servers the boot > time can be decreased by stripping the kernel configuration of stuff you > don't need. I don't have any hard facts to prove this but this is what > my personal experience is. > > Jorn > > Dan, Jorn, Thanks for another tip to squeeze the last picosecond out of my elderly box! (I just began re-building gcc-43 after its 12mar07 update; it may be better at loop-unrolling than gcc-3.x. Every jot helps;) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 16 23:50:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282DC16A403 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9950013C48A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l2GNTPox019492; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:29:26 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:29:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070316102312.04601550@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070316102312.04601550@broadpark.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703170029.25066.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Kyrre =?iso-8859-1?q?Nyg=E5rd?= Subject: Re: Automating MERGEMASTER(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:50:28 -0000 On Friday 16 March 2007 10:32, Kyrre Nyg=E5rd wrote: > Hello, > > Is it possible to make MERGEMASTER(8) automatically replace files > with a FreeBSD CVS Id, and skip (or prompt interactively) the ones > without a FreeBSD CVS Id? The ones without are most certainly my own > personalized configuration files. I'd really like to keep them > intact. And on every MERGEMASTER(8) session I tend to replace every > single file but them. > > Thanks everyone! > > All the best, > Kyrre mergemaster -U Cheers, Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 00:07:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015F716A402 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D532B13C44C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn07.u.washington.edu (hymn07.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.53]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2H070KG005430 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:07:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn07.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2H06xl5015279 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:06:59 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.1] by hymn07.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:06:59 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:06:59 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <942506.59434.qm@web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.16.165433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:07:01 -0000 On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Drew Jenkins wrote: > Thanks! That's great! > Here's why the OS is corrupt: > 1) Suddenly, large data files which were on the 500 GB HD were wiped. I hadn't been working in anything associated with them for some time before that. They just disappeared. This is exactly what happened before on the old server, but then I had done something to damage it (entered a bad command). > 2) Now, as then, quirky things are happening, forcing me to do work-arounds when none should be done, or to abandon projects I'd like to do. For example, I copied a MySQL database as another dbase with another name, wiped all the data from the new dbase, and copied a shopping cart app I've built in Zope to a new site I'm building. I entered new categories into the new dbase. However, when I surf to my interface in the new Zope site I'm building, the old cats appear! There's no connection whatsoever. Even the background color of the display pages is picked up from the old site, goodness knows how. If I use the Zope interface to enter data into the products table, it works, but with the old cats. If I enter data into that table through MySQL, it displays in the new Zope site. I had to hard-wire the new cats to get it to work. I still don't know why the bgcolor for the page is the same as the old site, either. > > This kind of crap happens over and over again, and I have no explanation.2 Last time, it screwed up my clients' email, something I'm loathe to do. Eventually, the whole system died on me. > TIA, > Drew > > Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:33:42PM -0700, Drew Jenkins wrote: > >> I believe you misunderstand. I have 3 disks: >> 2 are SCSI RAID and are 80 GB each >> 1 is not and is 500 GB >> I don't actually need the 500 GB now. I haven't even used up the 80 GB HD's. >> So I can wipe the 500 GB clean. I don't have to keep data on it at all. >> But...can I do that remotely, and run those commands remotely, with that >> disk being unmounted, and if so...how? > > You can do it remotely. Once everything on that disk is unmounted > and unreferenced, then fdisk and bsdlabel will be happy to work on it. > > The best documentation for that is down in the examples of > the bsdlabel man page. > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=32 > fdisk -BI da0 > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0s1 bs=512 count=32 > bsdlabel -w -B da0s1 > bsdlabel -e da0s1 > > Change the device names to be what yours really are (da0 may be ad3 > or something. I also upped the count on the dd, but it doesn't matter. > > Follow this with a newfs for each partition except swap that you > create on this disk. > >> >> The problem *is* a corrupt OS. I currently don't have any data on >> that 500 GB HD. And the problems persist. Sorry to have confused you. >> Are things clearer now? > > Well, it seems clear that there is no problem with the 500 GB disk. > You can just fdisk it. If you want, write a few blocks of zeros to > it first to make sure the system believes it clean if you want. Probably > shouldn't need to, though. > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/extra-drive-name bs=512 count=250 > > As for the corrupt OS, I don't understand what that is and why > you think that or whatever. > > ////jerry > >> TIA, >> Drew2 How large is "large"? Why filesystem are you using with what options? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 00:19:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B76616A400 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3931313C44C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2H0JKH8087981; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:19:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45FB3403.5010801@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:19:15 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chess Griffin References: <13f052980703151751m5e89fb8dhc57fd594608e4b3d@mail.gmail.com> <45FB1E9F.4040403@daleco.biz> <13f052980703161601u7ff98698y2e48c5e5df9bc571@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <13f052980703161601u7ff98698y2e48c5e5df9bc571@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfce 4.4 and Thunar automounting of USB stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:19:28 -0000 Chess Griffin wrote: > On 3/16/07, Kevin Kinsey wrote: >>> I have installed Hal, Dbus, and polkit and have those 3 things enabled >>> in my /etc/rc.conf. I also installed thunar and the thunar-volman plugin. >>> However, when I go to the "Advanced" tab in the File Manager settings >>> manager in order to activate the auto-mounting, it states "Build >>>thunar-vfs with HAL support to use the volume management support in Thunar." >>> When I built Thunar I did enable Hal support, and I can't find anything in >>> ports or packages about thunar-vfs. >> >> Hmm, which did you install first, HAL or Thunar? > *doh!* > > I had installed Thunar first and then HAL... :) I just uninstalled > Thunar and rebuilt it with HAL on the system. Auto-mounting works > fine, now. Problem solved. Sheesh, I feel silly. > > Thank you, Kevin! NP --- everybody has those moments. And, for a real kick in the funny bone, look what a random pass of `fortune -s` added to the .sig on this one.... H.A.N.D.!! KDK -- He who laughs, lasts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 00:39:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94D516A400 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [83.12.228.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDB113C43E for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l2H0dI1o081906; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:39:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id l2H0dIVD081903; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:39:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:39:17 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Drew Jenkins In-Reply-To: <683651.79176.qm@web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070317013854.T81744@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <683651.79176.qm@web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:39:21 -0000 > 23Hi; > Is it possible to rebuild an OS without reformatting the hard drive? I have FBSD6.2, so I can't upgrade. upgrade to what? of course it's is possible to do this with any version. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 00:40:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB5B16A400 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D0513C489 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F010E1F97F7; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:40:36 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: OZGj13KCCJCRfVi1wC4QdqK9Nq3YXLYHBCoYvQ/ZVT53 1174092037 Received: from [10.1.10.136] (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3342A6DD; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:40:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20070316150014.GG75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <45F9C6ED.2010306@wcborstel.com> <707D1CE0-F7E3-4D29-A755-3AB7495FB66C@goldmark.org> <200703160219.25929.danny@ricin.com> <20070316150014.GG75446@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <195E8F06-0D3F-48FB-A4E2-0C22EEC9246C@goldmark.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:40:34 -0500 To: Jerry McAllister X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Danny Pansters , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Optimizationn questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:40:38 -0000 On Mar 16, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 02:19:25AM +0100, Danny Pansters wrote: > >> On Friday 16 March 2007 01:04:51 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: >>> me, too. >> >> Of course it will speed up booting but then again how much time >> does one spend >> booting, compared to using the puter: not much (at least I hope so >> for them!) Ah but some of us boot frequently. We have to after each kernel rebuild. >> If I do build my own kernel, for example to switch schedulers, I >> tend to toss >> out a heap of devices that I don't have anyway. But other than a >> bit more >> memory usage (which compared to the software that's run will >> typically be >> minor anyhow unless you're talking embedded system or maybe not-so- >> embedded >> but still of low spec special purpose boxes, like a satellite >> receiver box) >> you're not going to have a slower system because your kernel >> happens to have >> some built-in drivers that it doesn't use. The exception is a >> debug kernel of >> course that will impact performance because it increases runtime >> tasks/load. >> >> On a server I'd strip down the kernel, but for other reasons >> (avoiding any >> unneeded complexity). On a desktop I don't care as long as thingie >> works. >> YMMV of course. > > I think what he was saying is that if you already need to build a > kernel for some other reason, then go ahead and strip out the > unused stuff. But, if you don't have any other reason to do it, > it is not worth the bother to build another kernel just to strip > it of unused stuff - that it won't make THAT much difference. > > I'd agree with that. me, too. I've got some linux workstations for which I've never felt the need to compile my own kernel. But my FreeBSD box is a headless ITX-mini board that will run as a public server. Because there was so much of GENERIC that I could discard for my box, it seemed to make sense. But I suppose the single most important factor in my decision to compile my own kernel is "Building a custom kernel is one of the most important rites of passage nearly every BSD user must endure." From: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ kernelconfig-custom-kernel.html Also I have m0n0wall running on a Soekris box, and someday I may want to customize that, so this is a good learning experience. It's really -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 02:34:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C50A16A402 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B32AC13C44C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 28010 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Mar 2007 02:34:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=CGSejcdGViZ5n9NUTjohpxhYXPuNKmWoTygJPuyB8opoFCzXVARpoxvqF4gJiMsZO0jW3QDZ3qOS8Rf40K+O3RAGvl2VIwv8AW83tS6siDt/BBr6dpIgarVM7hGD7rQ8gAEeg85QfhvPJ0ppJFCwC5p8dpWvpRqkFSVLyVOyb+U=; X-YMail-OSG: gS0Zv84VM1kiOchVRO5946T3bLbk0LvEztYowFEBaonNLPTBZNU9keUXamC2U3vGpbhkD6Z07.Dx1V5jTK88IK1jtv9aZoIG1YKreZbpjiSPmDkcIamKXMzdmV7FYR8s Received: from [66.82.9.66] by web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:34:49 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:34:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <68071.23110.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:34:51 -0000 How large is "large"? Why filesystem are you using with what options?The MySQL database was just under a gigabyte, and the Zope Data.fs file/database was somewhere under 2 gigabytes. Options? No options. I had symlinks from where these dbases were supposed to live on the SCSI drives to the 500 GB drive. Then suddenly, poof! They were gone. Drew --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 02:39:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC40B16A482 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:39:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C30D13C455 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 12433 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Mar 2007 02:39:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=skMRS21N/IEmMhaLUAOTQdwdUYQvoRpYlBJGasWntdbBFAm5eNJh+JlZ4IcBuYLeDcSFGjvQTnGSqB1RoFqMEiB/pJqQTonxNDa1MkD2hY//lPkLSfw5f1cfz26LfrjM65R7nfjncDntHC/cj+GqAiMHx7Udm1C1HmyBN1CHDOU=; X-YMail-OSG: eWWznAYVM1l17gyafUNa2Xtf47Kuzr6d8zmzQS..8sc1BOETXpKAQh.crU3L4zSFA2WUeqXqo8q3f3cO8pNw5YYKkM0UJmWf6zD40HHyxx2n_xq2.VeQPHa_wOmVlbBo Received: from [67.46.93.3] by web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:39:31 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <294275.11406.qm@web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:39:32 -0000 2How large is "large"? Why filesystem are you using with what options?The MySQL database was just under a gigabyte, and the Zope Data.fs file/database was somewhere under 2 gigabytes. Options? No options. I had symlinks from where these dbases were supposed to live on the SCSI drives to the 500 GB drive. The MySQL was called from the Zope, of course. Then suddenly, poof! They were gone. Drew --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 03:13:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECB416A400 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D00C13C45B for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2H3DObm032028 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:13:24 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.42] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2H3DOCU028147 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:13:24 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <68071.23110.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <68071.23110.qm@web62204.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7408AB84-C5C0-4374-BF06-0B5DEF4E48DB@u.washington.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:13:21 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.16.200435 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:13:25 -0000 On Mar 16, 2007, at 7:34 PM, Drew Jenkins wrote: > How large is "large"? Why filesystem are you using with what > options?The MySQL database was just under a gigabyte, and the Zope > Data.fs file/database was somewhere under 2 gigabytes. Options? No > options. I had symlinks from where these dbases were supposed to > live on the SCSI drives to the 500 GB drive. Then suddenly, poof! > They were gone. > Drew Well, I was curious because I thought it could be something to deal with the 2GB file limit. You still haven't answered my question about the filesystem though: are you using UFS2 or something else? Thanks, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 05:06:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365E416A403 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toanbqb@vinagame.com.vn) Received: from mail.vinagame.com.vn (mail.vinagame.com.vn [222.255.120.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4BE13C44C for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toanbqb@vinagame.com.vn) Received: (qmail 23499 invoked by uid 89); 17 Mar 2007 04:39:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO front-end.vinagame.com.vn) (10.199.0.210) by mail.vinagame.com.vn with SMTP; 17 Mar 2007 04:39:19 -0000 Importance: normal Priority: normal Received: from BACKEND.vinagame.com.vn ([10.199.0.202]) by front-end.vinagame.com.vn with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:38:46 +0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:35:47 +0700 Message-ID: <209FBDF00C0A3342AA3C36DA144681443D51BF@BACKEND.vinagame.com.vn> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Error Compile Kernel Thread-Index: AcdoTbKjrFTDumiURJe9DvTy1cNCYQ== From: "Toan. Bach Quang Bao" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2007 04:38:46.0968 (UTC) FILETIME=[26B80380:01C7684E] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Error Compile Kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:06:03 -0000 Dear, =20 I have compile kernel: =20 cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf mkdir /root/kernels cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL =20 ln -s /root/kernels/MYKERNEL /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL cd ../compile/MYKERNEL make depend make make install =20 But when I "make" it have error: =20 # make linking kernel.debug ip_input.o(.text+0x200): In function `ip_init': ../../../netinet/ip_input.c:312: undefined reference to `nf_sockopt_init' *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYKERNEL. =20 Please help me. =20 Thanks & Best Regard, Bach Quang Bao Toan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 05:16:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FEB116A401 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D40E13C48A for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2H5G2RA022481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:16:02 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.42] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2H5G17o000565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:16:02 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <209FBDF00C0A3342AA3C36DA144681443D51BF@BACKEND.vinagame.com.vn> References: <209FBDF00C0A3342AA3C36DA144681443D51BF@BACKEND.vinagame.com.vn> X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:16:00 -0700 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.16.220434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Error Compile Kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:16:03 -0000 On Mar 16, 2007, at 9:35 PM, Toan. Bach Quang Bao wrote: > Dear, > > > > I have compile kernel: > > > > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > > mkdir /root/kernels > > cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL > > ln -s /root/kernels/MYKERNEL > > /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL > > cd ../compile/MYKERNEL > > make depend > > make > > make install > > > > But when I "make" it have error: > > > > # make > > linking kernel.debug > > ip_input.o(.text+0x200): In function `ip_init': > > ../../../netinet/ip_input.c:312: undefined reference to > `nf_sockopt_init' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYKERNEL. > > > > Please help me. > > > > Thanks & Best Regard, > > Bach Quang Bao Toan You're missing a dependency in your kernel config. Best way to resolve this with the most learning experience is to take your drivers included in your kernel and go "man {driver name}". The man page lists all the dependencies for the required driver. As a hint though, I bet the driver you're missing is net related, most likely dealing with bpf, ether, or options INET. Make sure to run make clean when changing options if you have NO_CLEAN set to yes in /etc/make.conf. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 05:20:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D653A16A402 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C4313C457 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A780D1A4D88; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ED7B751350; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:20:09 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Toan. Bach Quang Bao" Message-ID: <20070317052009.GA32220@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <209FBDF00C0A3342AA3C36DA144681443D51BF@BACKEND.vinagame.com.vn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <209FBDF00C0A3342AA3C36DA144681443D51BF@BACKEND.vinagame.com.vn> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error Compile Kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:20:10 -0000 On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 11:35:47AM +0700, Toan. Bach Quang Bao wrote: > ip_input.o(.text+0x200): In function `ip_init': > > ../../../netinet/ip_input.c:312: undefined reference to > `nf_sockopt_init' You forgot to mention what version of FreeBSD you are trying to compile, but I can't find any remotely similar function call in that file (or in the entire kernel) in either 6.x or 7.x. Are you sure this isn't a local modification you made? Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 05:31:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7232416A403 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (pool-71-245-104-192.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.245.104.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515FB13C45E for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (localhost.home.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2H5Uxqi003307 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:30:59 -0700 Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with UUCP id l2H5UxtE003304 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:30:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id FAA22771; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:29:38 GMT Message-Id: <200703170529.FAA22771@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:29:38 +0100 From: Dieter Subject: Re: burncd makes disk that is unmountable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:31:02 -0000 > > > > AMD64 running 6.0 > > > > Drive is: > > > > acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA66 > > > > Media is CD-RW > > > > > > > > Burned a 6.2 disk using: > > > > burncd data 6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fixate > > > > as suggested in > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html > > > > > > I don't remember the details, but when I got to 6.1, I found that > > > my old burncd parameters would not work and I had to change them. > > > > > > I don't remember the details, but I settled upon: > > > /usr/sbin/burncd -v -f /dev/acd0 data FreeBSD62-disc1.iso fixate > > > which seems to work find. Both boots and mounts. That doesn't look > > > materially different from yours, but... > > > > It is defaulting to the correct device. > > > > > > Seemed to go okay. Disk boots, but I cannot mount it: > > > > > > > > fstab entry: > > > > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > > > > > > > Yields: > > > > g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5 > > > > > > > > Tried it with and without "fixate", neither will mount. > > > > > > > > Other iso disks (probably burned using NetBSD) mount fine. > > > > UFS DVD+RW disks burned under FreeBSD using growisofs mount fine. > > > > > > > > Given the error message, I assume that the block/sector at 32768 isn't > > > > getting written. > > > > New data: NetBSD mounts both disks (with and without "fixate") just fine. > > So perhaps the problem is with FreeBSD's mount rather than burncd? > > Typing in mount yields what options with NetBSD? Command is: mount /cdrom NetBSD's fstab entry: /dev/cd0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Identical to FreeBSD's entry, except for the device name and perhaps whitespace. I now have FreeBSD 6.2 up and limping, and it fails the same way as 6.0. Also tried another OS, but the stupid penguin can't even find the drive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 05:31:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B6716A404 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (pool-71-245-104-192.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.245.104.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5177113C465 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (localhost.home.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2H5Uxw1003313 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:30:59 -0700 Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) with UUCP id l2H5Uxv1003310 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:30:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id FAA24926; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:15:14 GMT Message-Id: <200703170515.FAA24926@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:15:14 +0100 From: Dieter Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:31:02 -0000 An alternative to undocumented graphics/video cards is in the works. The Open Graphics Project has a prototype working. If you can assist the project (engineering talent, financial, etc.) the production boards will be available sooner. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 10:12:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889F016A406 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62201.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62201.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.74.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3882113C468 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 58826 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Mar 2007 10:12:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=eEcCcf53FIXiFkuVb0TxuP3KXlT6mtSqg3ABeT6VQv/eYaMXD8aQ5OTJyPVA829m3bgkKmZ0vSfjC1wmvOSc2H0U3C+WuEWZXPFEHeGSwn/g8KTqRBtzVcuwC5oQ0OlzrgWTb93f3Jb3xh1MhgbroAGRNw/bgBArVsfqSR4xsoo=; X-YMail-OSG: 74ryTRwVM1l1iR8bRBmiP.FLbYpc3BIJJDb8U8zGCtqe0a6981ZTIZllgU6DyccKehcAQNqPoODW_CpEiaEKbtToAxyL14HLeMoe6hhkqnNa1y0LPMd9cIRQL8dEN48- Received: from [66.82.9.70] by web62201.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:12:02 PDT Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:12:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <7408AB84-C5C0-4374-BF06-0B5DEF4E48DB@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <404032.54358.qm@web62201.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:12:03 -0000 /etc/fstab says ufs. Is there a better way to check if its ufs2? Drew2 Garrett Cooper wrote: On Mar 16, 2007, at 7:34 PM, Drew Jenkins wrote: > How large is "large"? Why filesystem are you using with what > options?The MySQL database was just under a gigabyte, and the Zope > Data.fs file/database was somewhere under 2 gigabytes. Options? No > options. I had symlinks from where these dbases were supposed to > live on the SCSI drives to the 500 GB drive. Then suddenly, poof! > They were gone. > Drew Well, I was curious because I thought it could be something to deal with the 2GB file limit. You still haven't answered my question about the filesystem though: are you using UFS2 or something else? Thanks, -Garrett _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Now that's room service! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 11:03:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE3E16A403 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from anchor-fallback-94.mail.demon.net (anchor-fallback-94.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F0113C457 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.85]:3260 "EHLO anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net") by anchor-fallback-94.mail.demon.net with ESMTP id S2140674AbXCQKD1 (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:03:27 +0000 Received: from 80.177.40.57.urgle.com ([80.177.40.57]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HSVkz-0001eb-IV; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:03:25 +0000 Message-ID: <45FBBAC0.8010901@urgle.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:54:08 +0000 From: Mike Bristow User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070212) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Halil Guven References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hi ; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:03:34 -0000 Halil Guven wrote: > Dear Sýrs > > I want to open in FreeBSD program 21,443,11905,11907,12341 15501 > ports.How can i do these. > > Please inform me and thanks in advance of your help. If you would like to work out what program is listening on a given port, or is connected on a given port, (you might have run netstat -an | grep LISTEN and you'd like to work out what is listening on a particular port), you can use 'sockstat', which will tell you the user, process ID, and program associated with every network connection. I'm not sure if I've answered your question, though! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 11:05:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C2A16A402 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlc415@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BEA13C43E for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlc415@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so756926wxc for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 04:05:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=mbX7OZ7E+Mb9oZcE0NoheWRTE8CcswtTGPkJzZcJn+6x3qq7YGIxJTk+bTRjgsHp4ONWr/UVrQuU6qFO0TnzZglWbbFxvqIACZV9M+m6eKeTL08zI/8OCKblMn2zy6GERQGyTAH1UThWen/CS5+jdddjtHVnr9ftF3GvcHYYiRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GUQ14rlbmAwmRdSUtjWm6W2NmxplLTlQagD/TiN6Q/IPWpOn0C12EJrdJkmjQJc3ITDnfeqz2QABmdN6Xm9kwT50xn/ifBDV4ihE6JoIS03877QPUfVnmnd/1gDI6auwFYOxTgcnScEgqMV4xTGjTgztznwLYsM1qINCDVExk7U= Received: by 10.90.113.18 with SMTP id l18mr2660887agc.1174128004634; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.117.19 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1fe953880703170340l552b1fc1ge244469667a2bb3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:40:04 +0000 From: jlc415@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Can't see ATA drives with new install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:05:11 -0000 I've just installed 6.2/amd64 on a system with standard IDE as well as SATA; I've got three drives: an old linux IDE hard drive (that I can't modify), a CD/DVD drive on the IDE bus, and a new SATA drive where I've just installed/am installing FreeBSD. I can boot from any of the drives: the linux install doesn't have the right drivers so it's not usable, but the MB definitely sees the drive. I can boot from the FreeBSD boot CD, as well, and that's what I used to install onto the SATA drive. The trouble is that when I boot from the SATA drive I can't see either of the other two drives. /dev contains the entries for the main SATA drive, but nothing for anything else: no /dev/acd or /dev/cd; no other hard drives; nothing. Looked through dmesg but didn't see anything related to the cd drive, although I really don't know what I'm looking for. I wondered whether the stock kernel maybe just didn't include the right drivers, so added device atapicam device scbus device cd device pass to GENERIC, but I still can't see the dvd drive. What should I be looking for? Is there more robust documentation on dealing with ATA devices somewhere? Any help much appreciated. -mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 12:14:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E65A16A401 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rothlee@aebc.com) Received: from aebc.com (dslgwmail.aebc.com [209.139.247.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF70413C44B for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:14:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rothlee@aebc.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:04:36 -0800 Message-Id: <10703170504.AA01968@aebc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "rothlee" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Precedence: bulk Subject: Hi, X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Reply-To: rothlee@aebc.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:14:41 -0000 Hi, I will be away from the office from March 19 to March 23. Please direct your requests and concerns to Raj (rkhitt@aebc.com) and Jay (jay@globalmember.net). Thanks, Roth. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 12:29:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEF916A400 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lalev@uni-svishtov.bg) Received: from ns.uni-svishtov.bg (ns2.uni-svishtov.bg [195.20.24.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFAF13C465 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lalev@uni-svishtov.bg) Received: from mail.uni-svishtov.bg (grinch.uni-svishtov.bg [195.20.24.9]) by ns.uni-svishtov.bg (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l2HBYdxn086372 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:34:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from lalev@uni-svishtov.bg) Received: from mail.uni-svishtov.bg (localhost.uni-svishtov.bg [127.0.0.1]) by mail.uni-svishtov.bg (8.13.8/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l2HBY1ag096036 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:34:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from lalev@uni-svishtov.bg) Received: from 195.20.24.180 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lalev) by mail.uni-svishtov.bg with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:34:01 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <50939.195.20.24.180.1174131241.squirrel@mail.uni-svishtov.bg> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:34:01 +0200 (EET) From: lalev@uni-svishtov.bg To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.1, clamav-milter version 0.90.1 on mail.uni-svishtov.bg X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: clamav-milteClamAv: accept() returned invalid socket (Result too large) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:29:46 -0000 What is causing this ? The full message appears in /var/log/messages and looks like this: mail clamav-milter: ClamAv: accept() returned invalid socket (Result too large), try again I get long series of this message on average twice a day at which time the server gradually stops to process mail until I restart clamAV. sendmail.cf ... Xclmilter, S=local:/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock, F=T, T=S:4m;R:4m;E:5m ... ps -axww|grep clam 787 ?? Is 0:11.53 /usr/local/sbin/clamd 815 ?? Is 0:00.09 /usr/local/bin/freshclam --daemon -p /var/run/clamav/freshclam.pid 89956 ?? Ss 3:02.57 /usr/local/sbin/clamav-milter --pidfile /var/run/clamav/clamav-milter.pid --postmaster-only --local --outgoing --timeout=10 --max-children=100 /var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 13:05:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7973116A40D for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao103.cox.net (eastrmmtao103.cox.net [68.230.240.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A4213C4DE for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id <20070317130510.VDPC3661.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:05:10 -0400 Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id bp581W00X2zbV0s0000000; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:05:09 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 08:05:09 -0500 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070317130508.GA25538@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070315164706.4fy8vlmhw00kk4s8@mail.schnarff.com> <20070315210957.GF71936@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070315211624.GA89114@xor.obsecurity.org> <45FA1325.6020409@u.washington.edu> <20070316051445.GA93327@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070316051445.GA93327@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Should I Upgrade 5.4 -> 6.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:05:10 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:14:45AM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:46:45PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 05:09:57PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > >>On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 04:47:06PM -0400, alex@schnarff.com wrote: > > >> > > >>>First off, I want to thank the people who responded to my thread > > >>>"Stability Issues on a 5.4-RELEASE box" a couple of weeks ago; after > > >>>disabling hyperthreading, getting a clean run of Memtest back, and > > >>>doing some serious fsck'ing of the disks, the box appears to now be > > >>>completely stable. I'm still not sure which of the above fixed the > > >>>problem...but I'll take a stable system at this point. :-) > > >>> > > >>>That said, in that thread I had asked about the advisability of > > >>>upgrading to 6.2, and it was intelligently pointed out that doing so in > > >>>pursuit of stability was a bad idea. Now that the box is stable, > > >>>though, I'm back to the same question: should I make the upgrade, and > > >>>if so, how should I do it? > > >>> > > >>>My primary driver for doing so would be to keep current enough that I'm > > >>>still getting security and other patches on a regular basis, and that I > > >>>can upgrade my applications from ports as necessary. If this is not an > > >>>issue, then my only remaining concern would be that it's usually easier > > >>>to get support on lists like this if you're running a modern version of > > >>>the OS (that's certainly the case with the OpenBSD folks). > > >>> > > >>>My primary concern with upgrading is that the box is in Portland, OR, > > >>>and I'm in Arlington, VA...and while the ISP is friendly, I doubt that > > >>>I could count on them for major system recovery if I botch something > > >>>during the upgrade. My other worry is that I don't want to break > > >>>existing apps if possible (the main one I'm concerned about is > > >>>Zope/Plone). This is a production box with moderate traffic, and it > > >>>would be a problem if there was extensive downtime. > > >>> > > >>>Is it worth upgrading? If so, what's the best way to do so -- CVSup, or > > >>>some other way? Are there any major caveats if I do choose to upgrade > > >>>(or choose to stay with the existing OS)? > > >>You should if you can reasonably do it, for the reasons you give plus > > >>improvements in performance and in some utilities. > > >> > > >>My sentiment is usually to do a clean install over major version numbers. > > >>It tends to leave less dross laying around. but I do not have to worry > > >>about down times very much, a couple of hours at night is not terribly > > >>noticable in my stuff. It does require more time down to do a clean > > >>from scratch install. But, I think you can get away with a cvsup > > >>upgrade from 5.4 to 6.2. Then your downtime is just the reboot and > > >>stuff at single user (mergemaster), plus probably some for upgrading > > >>various ports. > > > > > >Yes, a source upgrade from 5.x to 6.x (followed by portupgrade -fa) > > >isn't too bad. As with any upgrade you do need a recovery strategy > > >though. > > > > > >Kris > > > > I agree with both Kris and Jerry. Besides, if you run 6.2 you're running > > a supported version of FreeBSD whereas 5.4 isn't supported anymore (5.5 > > is the last supported version in the legacy 5.x branch). Plus there are > > slight improvements from 5.x to 6.x. > > s/slight/major/ ;) Well sed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 15:13:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D2316A402 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215DA13C4EC for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2HFCiCV082897; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:12:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2HFCdOI082896; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:12:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:12:38 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20070317151238.GC82802@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <683651.79176.qm@web62210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20070317013854.T81744@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070317013854.T81744@chylonia.3miasto.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Drew Jenkins , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:13:16 -0000 On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 01:39:17AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >23Hi; > >Is it possible to rebuild an OS without reformatting the hard drive? I > >have FBSD6.2, so I can't upgrade. > > upgrade to what? > > of course it's is possible to do this with any version. Probably he means he is at the currently highest RELEASE level. Maybe he doesn't want to go to CURRENT. Anyway, that won't change file size restraints. 6.2 is already there. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 15:17:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CFA16A412 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@designaproduct.biz) Received: from designaproduct.biz (135-shost.hostoffice.hu [195.228.74.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFC213C4BD for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@designaproduct.biz) Received: from [172.16.0.43] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by designaproduct.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70191DD422 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <45FC0674.90501@designaproduct.biz> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:17:08 +0100 From: Laszlo Nagy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: esddsp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:17:08 -0000 Dear List, I would like to use esddsp to forward sounds from a server to several diskless clients. All clients have sound cards, and the esd daemon started with esd -promiscuous -tcp -pubic -port 1500 On the server side, I can play an mp3 file with esddsp -v -s earth.msnet:1500 mpg123 something.mp3 My problem is that esddsp creates the pseudo device for the given process only. In other words, /dev/dsp is not inherited by child processes. For example doing esddsp -v -s earth.msnet:1500 x11amp will not work, because x11amp uses a different process for decoding. What I would like to do is to have all gnome2 system sounds, x11amp, firefox/flash sounds etc. working. But of course, it is not a good idea to start everything with esddsp, and in many cases it is not possible at all. Question is, is there a way to tell esddsp that the created pseudo dsp device should be used for all applications? Thanks, Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 16:23:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0379616A403 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:23:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB1413C44B for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:23:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so565350nfc for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:22:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DaQU50LazhY/R4zsLWFQsKY7gimBrQwLthD7+cSWsYsZyuq5H1AAQGFXPGGrLNtD+Y44tmNNZTs0IarnZeAJyUmxS9vLYLWodoyvNINVXUtvFCaDyLlLA5sJak0YdGqAjKlNmMyXG4H65FavTzBvPylcceGNmVMYM2DUF3gj2XM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RTVlm6eEsgmbvYYEeJFvDfZ8IdvjFuq+4O/Trb+JGNynezoARTLg4bTwKI5k3+P0W63HyttisP25CFYmpzR6THJWtGfEb9NqNAAhZgHJLOsqqhek+TcfZ7DgKMKPnyjxQDHYgz+KBifVmghT2ltYzaTg/kw+Y/H2xBrjSwlDWtk= Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr1579750hug.1174148579357; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.122.3 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7dc029620703170922o6b2323a7gee9cee729dd96a1a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:22:59 +0300 From: "Mike Barnard" To: Vince In-Reply-To: <45F7C31A.5010604@unsane.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7dc029620703140113x167ede6fra813058632e77195@mail.gmail.com> <45F7C31A.5010604@unsane.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS Mount error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:23:01 -0000 > > My guess is a typo in /etc/fstab > the line(s) should read something like > ip.add.re.ss:/mount/point /mounted nfs rw 0 0 thats it....realised a little late. thanks Vince. -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 16:23:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0432D16A405 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robe@prodal.telemar.cu) Received: from mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu (mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu [200.55.129.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C76713C45D for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robe@prodal.telemar.cu) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu (8.11.7/8.11.7) id l2HHL7711286 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from UNKNOWN(192.168.38.2), claiming to be "prodal.telemar.cu" via SMTP by mail1.fishnavy.inf.cu, id smtpd03omyK; Sat Mar 17 17:21:02 2007 Received: from josue.prodal.telemar.cu by prodal.telemar.cu (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50000062252.msg for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:20:35 -0500 From: Robe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:47:06 +0000 Message-Id: <1174132026.589.8.camel@freebsd.prodal.telemar.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: robe@prodal.telemar.cu X-Spam-Processed: prodal.telemar.cu, Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:20:35 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.200.108 X-Return-Path: robe@prodal.telemar.cu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: prodal.telemar.cu, Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:20:36 -0500 Subject: Question about "freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src" link X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:23:33 -0000 Hi, I want to know if there's any tool to "search" for a source file inside http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/ or there's a map or a tree that shows me the structure of the files there. Thanx, Robe. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 19:04:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED89816A402 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org (CPE-75-87-219-217.new.res.rr.com [75.87.219.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B035513C45A for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from ammon.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2HJ7SYv012135; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:07:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from ammon.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ammon.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2HJ4HjL083332; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:04:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp@ammon.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by ammon.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2HJ4HHk083331; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:04:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:04:16 -0500 From: Doug Poland To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20070317190416.GA83205@polands.org> References: <50887.69.129.174.18.1174061201.squirrel@email.polands.org> <45FAFB6C.2050006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45FAFB6C.2050006@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2859/Sat Mar 17 10:18:36 2007 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade and replacing apache 1.3.37 with apache 2.2.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:04:19 -0000 On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 08:17:48PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Doug Poland wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE on an i386 test box with apache > > 1.3.37/PHP-5/MySQL-5. As the subject says, I'd like to replace > > apache 1.3 with apache 2.2. > > > > I understand httpd.conf will change and that I'll have to edit that > > by hand, but is there a portupgrade command that will remove 1.3.37, > > install 2.2.4, and rebuild all apache dependent programs? > > > > I'm thinking something like: > > > > # portupgrade -R -f -o www/apache22 www/apache13-modssl > > > > > > portupgrade -o www/apache22 -rf apache13\* > > will install apache22 in place of apache13-modssl and force a rebuild > of everything that depends on apache13-modssl > > Putting > > APACHE_PORT= www/apache22 > WITH_APACHE2=yes > > into /etc/make.conf before trying that is generally a good idea too. > > Note that this sort of command is not going to cover all of the edge > cases. apache13-modssl has a different dependency tree to apache22 -- > for example, libmm (devel/mm) is not needed by apache22. Having libmm > floating around unused shouldn't break anything though. > > Not relevant to the OP, but if you were a mod_perl user, you would > need to do a bit more work and install the www/mod_perl2 port in place > of www/mod_perl when upgrading to apache22. > Thank you very much. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 19:31:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DE416A403 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [209.240.66.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EC413C487 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (hq.secure-computing.net [209.240.66.157]) (authenticated bits=0) by grog.secure-computing.net (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2HI4P10032892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:04:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <33720FBA-20B3-4E58-8353-A7B605753AD2@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Minnesota Slinky Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:57:21 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: PowerApp 120/1550 Install problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:31:22 -0000 Hey list, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on a Dell PowerApp 120 (1550) I just purchased. The system claims to have an AIC 7899 SCSI host adapter. I've currently got a known-good 9GB Fujitsu hard disk in the system, as ID 0. During installation, the disk comes up as da0. After going through all the options for install, etc, I get an error when it tries to write the file systems: "Unable to find device node for /dev/da0s1b in /dev!" and mentions that installation is aborting. At first I thought it was a problem with the SCSI backplane, but RHEL and Window 2000 Server both install and operate without problems. Thanks for your advice! Eric Crist From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 19:49:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4258C16A402 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEF713C459 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup204.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.204]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l2HJmkl3000817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:49:00 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2HJmTlR071588; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:48:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2HIpTPm054966; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:51:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:51:28 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jos? Pablo Fern?ndez Message-ID: <20070317185128.GB47438@kobe.laptop> References: <200703161922.12086.pablo.fernandez@rs.com.ar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703161922.12086.pablo.fernandez@rs.com.ar> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.675, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.52, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logrotating and running a command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:49:32 -0000 On 2007-03-16 19:22, Jos? Pablo Fern?ndez wrote: > Hello, > I need to rotate some logs, but instead of getting the PID out of a > file and sending a SIGHUP to that process, like newsyslog does, I need > to run a command. > Is that possible with newsyslog? how should I do it? Not directly, but you can easily hack around this by running a daemon which blocks waiting for a signal and runs the command when newsyslog signals your daemon ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 19:49:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD8916A400 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCB213C45E for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup204.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.204]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l2HJmkdN000818 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:48:55 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2HJmTlT071588; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:48:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l2HIbk1K050344; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:37:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:37:46 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ewald Jenisch Message-ID: <20070317183745.GA47438@kobe.laptop> References: <20070315091426.GA950@aurora.oekb.co.at> <01fc01c767a2$1e522010$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20070316133738.GA3288@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070316133738.GA3288@aurora.oekb.co.at> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.272, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.12, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20, SUBJ_YOUR_OWN 0.81) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Build your own ISO-install-CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:49:52 -0000 On 2007-03-16 14:37, Ewald Jenisch wrote: >On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:07:17AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> The process is long and complex. You don't want to do it if you can >> help it. If people beg me on this list I'll post the step by step I >> use but trust me you really really don't want to do this unless >> absolutely necessary. > > Hi Ted, > I suppose this might be of interest to others too, so maybe you could > post your "receipe" here? > >> Here is the easy way to fix this. >> >> 1) Burn a CD with the new driver >> 2) Boot off a regular install ISO and install your system plus kernel >> sources >> 3) Mount the burned CD and copy the new driver to the kernel >> source location it is supposed to be at >> 4) Recompile kernel and your in business. > > Nice "shortcut-tip"! :-) Guess copying the complete /usr/src via CD to > the target machine would even be better given the lot of mods that > went into the system and kernel since 6.2 has been released. Ted is right that the process can take quite a while, and you have to be careful not to miss steps along the way. Please note, however, that thanks to the help of past members of the RE team, large pargs of the release engineering process of FreeBSD are documented in manpages like release(7), build(7) and in articles like ``FreeBSD Release Engineering''[1] and ``FreeBSD Release Engineering for Third Party Software Packages''[2]. [1] http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/ [2] http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng-packages/ Before you embark on a mission to make your own CD-ROM or DVD of installable FreeBSD snapshots, it is a good idea to check out these references. They may be of help :-) Regards, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 20:09:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F1E16A40D for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F187B13C4C8 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2HK9DST026058 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:09:13 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2HK9CH1000548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:09:13 -0700 Message-ID: <45FC4AE8.5020906@u.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:09:12 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070316) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <404032.54358.qm@web62201.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <404032.54358.qm@web62201.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.17.125434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __PHISH_PHRASE11 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:09:14 -0000 Drew Jenkins wrote: > /etc/fstab says ufs. Is there a better way to check if its ufs2? > Drew2 > > Garrett Cooper wrote: On Mar 16, 2007, at 7:34 PM, Drew Jenkins wrote: > >> How large is "large"? Why filesystem are you using with what >> options?The MySQL database was just under a gigabyte, and the Zope >> Data.fs file/database was somewhere under 2 gigabytes. Options? No >> options. I had symlinks from where these dbases were supposed to >> live on the SCSI drives to the 500 GB drive. Then suddenly, poof! >> They were gone. >> Drew > > Well, I was curious because I thought it could be something to deal > with the 2GB file limit. You still haven't answered my question about > the filesystem though: are you using UFS2 or something else? > > Thanks, > -Garrett The easiest way to figure out if you're running UFS2 is to go to the disk label feature within sysinstall, and define a mount point for the slice. Make sure _not_ to make any changes though as you'll be thrusting yourself in the middle of a system upgrade (CTRL-C is your friend). If it's ufs1, it should definitely be converted to ufs2. There were some serious limitations in ufs1, in particular dealing with file size (2GB limit I believe) and features. Someone else on the list might be able to advise you or point you in the right direction if you want more details.. Also, you should be running softupdates. If not you're playing a risky game of russian roulette with your data, where if corrupted things can disappear between reboots if you didn't power down the machine properly (power down via ATX dead man power switch, power loss, etc). If all else fails and you're not running ufs1 on the disk, try upgrade your bios or firmware controller that the disk is operating on, and get back to us with more details. Cheers, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 20:54:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E579016A474 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958D113C4BB for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2HKt6fZ022207 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:55:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2HKt5PB022206 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:55:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:55:04 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20070317205504.GA78664@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: upgrading ports/packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:54:52 -0000 Is there a set of switches that portupgrade will use to upgrade (from src) _only_ the ports that need rebuilding? I'm guessing "not" because it's either -arp or else portupgrade exits without doing anything! My aim is to build every package just once here (700+Mhz) and scp and pkg_add the pacakges to my slower boxen? But even after using pkgdb -F, the pkg_version -vIL'=" results are unchanged. thanks for any clues! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 21:53:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE3E16A400 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5DB13C45D for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l2HLqo0t015030; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:52:50 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:52:57 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070317205504.GA78664@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070317205504.GA78664@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703171452.58145.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: upgrading ports/packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:53:02 -0000 On Saturday 17 March 2007 13:55, Gary Kline wrote: > Is there a set of switches that portupgrade will use to upgrade > (from src) _only_ the ports that need rebuilding? I'm guessing > "not" because it's either -arp or else portupgrade exits without > doing anything! > > My aim is to build every package just once here (700+Mhz) and > scp and pkg_add the pacakges to my slower boxen? But even after > using pkgdb -F, the pkg_version -vIL'=" results are unchanged. > > thanks for any clues! My experience is that -arp will build all of the ports from source that needs building but it will (re)build all of the packages. The price for using the generic "a". On the slow machine, I wouldn't use pkg_add but portupgrade -Pa. There are some ports that you can't build packages and have to build from the source. So, if you have a package in /usr/ports/packages/All, portupgrade will use it but if you need to build it from source, it will also do that. Kent > > gary -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://www.soyandina.com/ "I am Andean project". http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 22:14:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B2716A404 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: from web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.75.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F054013C4BD for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drewjenkinsjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 61587 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Mar 2007 22:14:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=eZyrbquHN99egk6pD49rNkL4W5oGXpMbTuOzlkw15IYjEzlNf9L8X4oC+yXxeuxZPH0Q1Ao7pLUk7oGWJGf4jGaGfliJ1BFHydSAGGoyL3Gkdwsexc54XCOR5bezrLPDzA9Z7nKOx5odMD6uA2p0j1GSYPnotN7UGh9OA7OsECc=; X-YMail-OSG: cHCYpisVM1k6agq2eEyvIzEWPdAB0R48D6A6LloqPqExZFsdlbGysSZy1diKXRprHkQ3DUblVd8nNT_RPNQpWbEFDyq79HuUQC_2Y2QZXmGiSJDwrJMHMEFlggO8ie_l Received: from [66.82.9.40] by web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:14:14 PDT Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:14:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Jenkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45FC4AE8.5020906@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <163348.60379.qm@web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:14:15 -0000 I go to run /usr/sbin/sysinstall. It brings up a little GUI and asks me to select. I selected post-installation configuration, and it sent me back to a prompt! So I tried again, selecting the recommended configuration to start over again, and it again sent me back to a prompt! Besides, this is kinda dangerous. Got another, perhaps more complex but *safer* way to determine if it's ufs1 or 2? 2Also, what are softupdates and why do I need them? TIA, Drew Garrett Cooper wrote: Drew Jenkins wrote: > /etc/fstab says ufs. Is there a better way to check if its ufs2? > Drew2 > > Garrett Cooper wrote: On Mar 16, 2007, at 7:34 PM, Drew Jenkins wrote: > >> How large is "large"? Why filesystem are you using with what >> options?The MySQL database was just under a gigabyte, and the Zope >> Data.fs file/database was somewhere under 2 gigabytes. Options? No >> options. I had symlinks from where these dbases were supposed to >> live on the SCSI drives to the 500 GB drive. Then suddenly, poof! >> They were gone. >> Drew > > Well, I was curious because I thought it could be something to deal > with the 2GB file limit. You still haven't answered my question about > the filesystem though: are you using UFS2 or something else? > > Thanks, > -Garrett The easiest way to figure out if you're running UFS2 is to go to the disk label feature within sysinstall, and define a mount point for the slice. Make sure _not_ to make any changes though as you'll be thrusting yourself in the middle of a system upgrade (CTRL-C is your friend). If it's ufs1, it should definitely be converted to ufs2. There were some serious limitations in ufs1, in particular dealing with file size (2GB limit I believe) and features. Someone else on the list might be able to advise you or point you in the right direction if you want more details.. Also, you should be running softupdates. If not you're playing a risky game of russian roulette with your data, where if corrupted things can disappear between reboots if you didn't power down the machine properly (power down via ATX dead man power switch, power loss, etc). If all else fails and you're not running ufs1 on the disk, try upgrade your bios or firmware controller that the disk is operating on, and get back to us with more details. Cheers, -Garrett _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 22:23:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874FC16A408 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from mail.geekdelivery.com (s205-206-56-226.ab.hsia.telus.net [205.206.56.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1A513C483 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from [192.168.0.104] ([70.65.134.12]) by media32.ca (mail.geekdelivery.com) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50000031050.msg for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:22:39 -0700 From: Ray To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:23:18 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <163348.60379.qm@web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <163348.60379.qm@web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703171623.19867.ray@stilltech.net> X-MDRemoteIP: 70.65.134.12 X-Return-Path: ray@stilltech.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) X-Spam-Report: * -4.7 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.7 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Processed: mail.geekdelivery.com, Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:22:40 -0700 X-MDAV-Processed: mail.geekdelivery.com, Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:22:43 -0700 Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ray@stilltech.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:23:56 -0000 On Saturday 17 March 2007 4:14 pm, Drew Jenkins wrote: > I go to run /usr/sbin/sysinstall. It brings up a little GUI and asks me to > select. I selected post-installation configuration, and it sent me back to > a prompt! So I tried again, selecting the recommended configuration to > start over again, and it again sent me back to a prompt! Besides, this is > kinda dangerous. Got another, perhaps more complex but *safer* way to > determine if it's ufs1 or 2? > > 2Also, what are softupdates and why do I need them? Soft updates Soft updates change the way the file system performs I/O. They enable metadata to be written less frequently. This can give rise to dramatic performance improvements under certain circumstances, such as file deletion. Specify soft updates with the -U option when creating the file system. (pg 191 The complete FreeBSD) > TIA, > Drew > > Garrett Cooper wrote: Drew Jenkins wrote: > > /etc/fstab says ufs. Is there a better way to check if its ufs2? > > Drew2 > > > > Garrett Cooper wrote: On Mar 16, 2007, at 7:34 PM, Drew Jenkins wrote: > >> How large is "large"? Why filesystem are you using with what > >> options?The MySQL database was just under a gigabyte, and the Zope > >> Data.fs file/database was somewhere under 2 gigabytes. Options? No > >> options. I had symlinks from where these dbases were supposed to > >> live on the SCSI drives to the 500 GB drive. Then suddenly, poof! > >> They were gone. > >> Drew > > > > Well, I was curious because I thought it could be something to deal > > with the 2GB file limit. You still haven't answered my question about > > the filesystem though: are you using UFS2 or something else? > > > > Thanks, > > -Garrett > > The easiest way to figure out if you're running UFS2 is to go to the > disk label feature within sysinstall, and define a mount point for the > slice. Make sure _not_ to make any changes though as you'll be thrusting > yourself in the middle of a system upgrade (CTRL-C is your friend). > > If it's ufs1, it should definitely be converted to ufs2. There were some > serious limitations in ufs1, in particular dealing with file size (2GB > limit I believe) and features. Someone else on the list might be able to > advise you or point you in the right direction if you want more details.. > > Also, you should be running softupdates. If not you're playing a risky > game of russian roulette with your data, where if corrupted things can > disappear between reboots if you didn't power down the machine properly > (power down via ATX dead man power switch, power loss, etc). > > If all else fails and you're not running ufs1 on the disk, try upgrade > your bios or firmware controller that the disk is operating on, and get > back to us with more details. > > Cheers, > -Garrett > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > --------------------------------- > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 22:27:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D357C16A400 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF22E13C45E for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2HMRwl3012463 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:27:58 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2HMRvGV004019 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:27:57 -0700 Message-ID: <45FC6B6D.5080603@u.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:27:57 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070316) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <163348.60379.qm@web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <163348.60379.qm@web62203.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.17.151434 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __PHISH_PHRASE11 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Corrupted OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:27:58 -0000 Drew Jenkins wrote: > I go to run /usr/sbin/sysinstall. It brings up a little GUI and asks > me to select. I selected post-installation configuration, and it sent > me back to a prompt! So I tried again, selecting the recommended > configuration to start over again, and it again sent me back to a > prompt! Besides, this is kinda dangerous. Got another, perhaps more > complex but *safer* way to determine if it's ufs1 or 2? > > 2Also, what are softupdates and why do I need them? > TIA, > Drew > > Garrett Cooper wrote: Drew Jenkins wrote: >> /etc/fstab says ufs. Is there a better way to check if its ufs2? >> Drew2 >> >> Garrett Cooper wrote: On Mar 16, 2007, at 7:34 PM, Drew Jenkins wrote: >> >>> How large is "large"? Why filesystem are you using with what >>> options?The MySQL database was just under a gigabyte, and the Zope >>> Data.fs file/database was somewhere under 2 gigabytes. Options? No >>> options. I had symlinks from where these dbases were supposed to >>> live on the SCSI drives to the 500 GB drive. Then suddenly, poof! >>> They were gone. >>> Drew >> Well, I was curious because I thought it could be something to deal >> with the 2GB file limit. You still haven't answered my question about >> the filesystem though: are you using UFS2 or something else? >> >> Thanks, >> -Garrett > > The easiest way to figure out if you're running UFS2 is to go to the > disk label feature within sysinstall, and define a mount point for the > slice. Make sure _not_ to make any changes though as you'll be thrusting > yourself in the middle of a system upgrade (CTRL-C is your friend). > > If it's ufs1, it should definitely be converted to ufs2. There were some > serious limitations in ufs1, in particular dealing with file size (2GB > limit I believe) and features. Someone else on the list might be able to > advise you or point you in the right direction if you want more details.. > > Also, you should be running softupdates. If not you're playing a risky > game of russian roulette with your data, where if corrupted things can > disappear between reboots if you didn't power down the machine properly > (power down via ATX dead man power switch, power loss, etc). > > If all else fails and you're not running ufs1 on the disk, try upgrade > your bios or firmware controller that the disk is operating on, and get > back to us with more details. > > Cheers, > -Garrett In order to get to disk label without installing from scratch, go to Configure -> Label. Then select your Disk, press Ok. Once the next window comes up, press "M" and select a mount point for the slice. Then look off to the right and see what version of UFS the slice is using. Another (maybe safer?) way to do this is to run /sbin/tunefs -p /dev/{disk+slicename}. See if something like... tunefs: soft updates: (-n) disabled ... pops up. I used my / slice as an example, so soft updates are automatically disabled for it (I think this has to deal with single user mode and fsck?). A short description of softupdates is available here: , and you should read the 2nd reference if you want more detailed info about them. Also, could you please bottom post. Top posting is hard to read and bottom-posting is the defacto standard on the FreeBSD lists. Thanks, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 22:53:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126AF16A400 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlc415@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B449113C448 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlc415@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so861855wxc for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:53:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lCyETgncKFJzsghsb/ilIxaIgAWZ6c039k7l4iQNoNiyUuu1SHHEmZ7TDR04VIuSh1LKG+TrAhAYDZ8Fk/rJkOaj9EwmxCORMbWzw4jicWF9B+E4B5UEKlovroth/kgTxMMoUVYX6X0OpJ2ldzZ6ZynScWbAG8kNTn1xeJkgSSg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J6H/nEoljIrrag//R1vIBu6QBshf9lRfUjCR5auPyRklWo4hcHrpLxeiAask3vmzGMYMblXueOUH6qEMmnUM9Kk87EbGAbqa7sGtjeiFxxyYp+FPOQqGe7K71Fs2nsml6ruqZYdnnZI7JtbT6KZ6x+56sTxnqb9oM3hjaJgISLM= Received: by 10.90.84.17 with SMTP id h17mr2986930agb.1174172016702; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.117.19 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1fe953880703171553x68700a34gcb473e3d46d0c0fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:53:36 +0000 From: jlc415@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1fe953880703170340l552b1fc1ge244469667a2bb3b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1fe953880703170340l552b1fc1ge244469667a2bb3b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Can't see ATA drives with new install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:53:38 -0000 I've just installed 6.2/amd64 on a system with standard IDE as well as SATA; I've got three drives: an old linux IDE hard drive (that I can't modify), a CD/DVD drive on the IDE bus, and a new SATA drive where I've just installed/am installing FreeBSD. I can boot from any of the drives: the linux install doesn't have the right drivers so it's not usable, but the MB definitely sees the drive. I can boot from the FreeBSD boot CD, as well, and that's what I used to install onto the SATA drive. The trouble is that when I boot from the SATA drive I can't see either of the other two drives. /dev contains the entries for the main SATA drive, but nothing for anything else: no /dev/acd or /dev/cd; no other hard drives; nothing. Looked through dmesg but didn't see anything related to the cd drive, although I really don't know what I'm looking for. I wondered whether the stock kernel maybe just didn't include the right drivers, so added device atapicam device scbus device cd device pass to GENERIC, but I still can't see the dvd drive. What should I be looking for? Is there more robust documentation on dealing with ATA devices somewhere? Any help much appreciated. -mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 23:10:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC8016A402 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE7313C45A for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2HNABEw026407 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:10:11 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l2HNAAeW009607 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:10:11 -0700 Message-ID: <45FC7552.9040409@u.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:10:10 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070316) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1fe953880703170340l552b1fc1ge244469667a2bb3b@mail.gmail.com> <1fe953880703171553x68700a34gcb473e3d46d0c0fc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1fe953880703171553x68700a34gcb473e3d46d0c0fc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.3.17.155934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_6 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Can't see ATA drives with new install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:10:12 -0000 jlc415@gmail.com wrote: > I've just installed 6.2/amd64 on a system with standard IDE as well as > SATA; I've got three drives: an old linux IDE hard drive (that I can't > modify), a CD/DVD drive on the IDE bus, and a new SATA drive where > I've just installed/am installing FreeBSD. > > I can boot from any of the drives: the linux install doesn't have the > right drivers so it's not usable, but the MB definitely sees the > drive. I can boot from the FreeBSD boot CD, as well, and that's what I > used to install onto the SATA drive. > > The trouble is that when I boot from the SATA drive I can't see either > of the other two drives. /dev contains the entries for the main SATA > drive, but nothing for anything else: no /dev/acd or /dev/cd; no other > hard drives; nothing. Looked through dmesg but didn't see anything > related to the cd drive, although I really don't know what I'm looking > for. > > I wondered whether the stock kernel maybe just didn't include the > right drivers, so added > > device atapicam > device scbus > device cd > device pass > > to GENERIC, but I still can't see the dvd drive. > > What should I be looking for? Is there more robust documentation on > dealing with ATA devices somewhere? > > Any help much appreciated. > > -mike Mike, What's your motherboard maker? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 23:34:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE02316A403 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlc415@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8E113C489 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlc415@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so867986wxc for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:34:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FTnyuuwnut+y4NcNxpOPZJCo4QHEx+AXFqsXCXax4M8OJrsdaO1u0dKmSfJUuGgwXcLu0jhCKuMiB/v+It3Vqt8hiYy9SGj+w7WtLnRi5DumDwvvULEYVlDiR/s9kS2nKrRCA1kDzxiBKRhE56ixQjd2212bxBdsRHkptZmImeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FU7NhevqYK1Tm1KTUoOV+97Cj8S7epqXy5rwhO9WOtSkLbOA0MtxHZOlGZJdqE5ggawqvY/x6LWx5kMieEoU5pzKLePqXGcPoRIrtjWY53ws91T/jas8477Fn50vH2xMIx+qkQoO7AdwUTHycKeDzGx6mrtmYkyykIj5ZMNnHAo= Received: by 10.90.27.15 with SMTP id a15mr2995090aga.1174174497091; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.117.19 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1fe953880703171634l2ea482c3x9d26b807bcf83df6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:34:57 +0000 From: jlc415@gmail.com To: "Garrett Cooper" In-Reply-To: <45FC7552.9040409@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1fe953880703170340l552b1fc1ge244469667a2bb3b@mail.gmail.com> <1fe953880703171553x68700a34gcb473e3d46d0c0fc@mail.gmail.com> <45FC7552.9040409@u.washington.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't see ATA drives with new install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:34:57 -0000 It's an Intel DG965WH; Core 2 Duo CPU. On 3/17/07, Garrett Cooper wrote: > jlc415@gmail.com wrote: > > I've just installed 6.2/amd64 on a system with standard IDE as well as > > SATA; I've got three drives: an old linux IDE hard drive (that I can't > > modify), a CD/DVD drive on the IDE bus, and a new SATA drive where > > I've just installed/am installing FreeBSD. > > > > I can boot from any of the drives: the linux install doesn't have the > > right drivers so it's not usable, but the MB definitely sees the > > drive. I can boot from the FreeBSD boot CD, as well, and that's what I > > used to install onto the SATA drive. > > > > The trouble is that when I boot from the SATA drive I can't see either > > of the other two drives. /dev contains the entries for the main SATA > > drive, but nothing for anything else: no /dev/acd or /dev/cd; no other > > hard drives; nothing. Looked through dmesg but didn't see anything > > related to the cd drive, although I really don't know what I'm looking > > for. > > > > I wondered whether the stock kernel maybe just didn't include the > > right drivers, so added > > > > device atapicam > > device scbus > > device cd > > device pass > > > > to GENERIC, but I still can't see the dvd drive. > > > > What should I be looking for? Is there more robust documentation on > > dealing with ATA devices somewhere? > > > > Any help much appreciated. > > > > -mike > > Mike, > What's your motherboard maker? > -Garrett > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 17 23:52:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C53516A405 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5931513C4B0 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2HNQTZW024566; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:26:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l2HNQQDp024563; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:26:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:26:26 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Lubomir Toshev In-Reply-To: <259069285.20070315153615@dir.bg> Message-ID: <20070317171111.N24302@wonkity.com> References: <259069285.20070315153615@dir.bg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:26:29 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with X11 and S3 Savage video card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:52:04 -0000 On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Lubomir Toshev wrote: > I am trying to run X11 on a machine with FreeBSD 6.2 and S3 Savage > video card. The installation of X11 was successful. The initial test > is ok, everything seems to function normally. The problem occures when > I try to exit the test with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. At that moment it > looks like an attempt is made to switch the video mode and the screen > remains black. After some time the monitor goes to power down mode as > if there is no video signal. I've seen the same thing with a ProSavage DDR-K integrated on an MSI motherboard. It appears that the video card doesn't reset correctly when quitting X. If X is left running, Ctrl-Alt-F1 works to switch back to console mode. Other than the reset issue, the Savage video seems to work fine. There's a UseBIOS option documented in the savage manpage, although "UseBIOS No" didn't help with this particular system. Other options like DmaMode are probably worth trying (I would, but that system is a long way away). Hmm. A search just now turned up this: http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-46981.html (Link suggests disabling the Load "dri" option in the xorg.conf Module section may solve the problem.) Please respond on whether that works or not. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA