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Date:      Thu, 6 Feb 2003 20:57:16 +0600
From:      Max Khon <fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru>
To:        Rasputin <rasputin@idoru.mine.nu>
Cc:        freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: patchset 2 report (billh's resignation)
Message-ID:  <20030206205716.A30498@iclub.nsu.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20030206123450.GB10718@idoru.tenten>; from rasputin@idoru.mine.nu on Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 12:34:50PM %2B0000
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hi, there!

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 12:34:50PM +0000, Rasputin wrote:

> > Why are your feelings hurt?
> 
> Scott, if you can't see that, then there's not much hope for you.
> 
> The guy has invested a tremendous amount of time and effort in
> delivering a product that a lot of us never expected to see on a BSD,
> and feels he's had all that work thrown back in his face.

ok, where's the beef? Can an average user build
hotspot 1.3.1 on FreeBSD 4.x? Has bill posted many times that he will
not support hotspot on FreeBSD 4.x to freebsd-java@?

As far as I understand hotspot for 1.3.1 is in the same state as
it was in summer 2002 and nothing has changed so far to
aid users to build it on 4.x without gathering bill's comments
scattered all over freebsd-java@ archives.
I know that next patchset will contain needed bits.

Users do not want to run 5.0-CURRENT. That's the fact.
Yes, bill could be possibly is a good hacker but what all this
hacking is done for? I highly appreciate his work but nothing
has changed since he started it. It is still easier to
set up Java-powered website on Linux or on w2k + apache than
loosing hours trying to understand how to build hotspot 1.3.1
on FreeBSD. Just look on this issue from an average admin or
Java developer point of view.

/fjoe


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