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Date:      Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:15:14 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Lev Serebryakov <lev@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Toomas Soome <tsoome@me.com>, Rebecca Cran <bcran@freebsd.org>,  FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI,  loader.efi and /boot.config)
Message-ID:  <CANCZdfp5zFpbh5x253kQJ-XfCJ0jPhff_i_5GZ4EpJaVZHj8eQ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <0bbb962f-cc59-f29d-b26d-fa675cbb1082@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <912985968.20190119125228@serebryakov.spb.ru> <etPan.5c433dd9.327b23c6.1973@bluestop.org> <1951151017.20190119235425@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4636753.YNO7O01DYZ@photon.int.bluestop.org> <17710465740.20190120134042@serebryakov.spb.ru> <CANCZdfq%2BmuSr=CX4V9_ebWwNv1S49=mJZms0ZVoCB2onp%2BqHNA@mail.gmail.com> <3f4214e2-36af-cc87-0a3c-2c7ce26cffd8@FreeBSD.org> <DE6A295D-80CF-4E9A-88EE-F9F63ED66286@me.com> <b4100160-d30d-a696-a2cb-be4f7f0d5305@FreeBSD.org> <C7DBCEA9-42AE-4ACC-84D8-10035DF0529E@me.com> <0bbb962f-cc59-f29d-b26d-fa675cbb1082@FreeBSD.org>

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On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 6:13 AM Lev Serebryakov <lev@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 21.01.2019 15:59, Toomas Soome wrote:
>
> >>>>> Is too complicated? Boot1.efi doesn't allow that, but loader.efi
> does.
> >>>> loader.efi lives on ESP partition, do I understand it right? So, it
> >>>> could not be damaged with "bad" upgrade?
> >>>
> >>> It could, unless the backup is created.
> >> Does it live on code (root) FS or ESP? I understand, that when you
> >> upgrade ESP partition, you could ruin it, but typically root FS is
> >> upgraded much more often than ESP/boot0/boot1 parts.
> >
> > If you are using boot1.efi, the loader.efi is in OS /boot/loader.efi
> annd boot1.efi is stored to ESP and will execute loader.efi as bios boot2
> programs do.
>  So, Warner's advice to use
>
> set currdev=diskXpY:
> boot
>
>  with loader.efi is not direct replacement to choosing boot partition
> via boot0 now (as "boot1.eif doesn't allow that" and /boot/loader.efi
> could be broken with unsuccessful upgrade), am I right?
>

Yes. And after my latest fixes, you can add 'set currdev=diskXpY' to ESP's
/efi/freebsd/loader.env as well. boot1.efi is really super limited and
tries too much DWIM to be useful, so it's being retired in favor of
loader.efi.


> > we will drop boot1.efi (it is already dropped in illumos btw), and will
> only use loader.efi - and in this case, the loader.efi is installed to ESP
> and will only start the kernel.
>   Ok, I need to wait for it.
>

I think all the features are there. You can install loader.efi as you used
to install boot1.efi and have it work as well or better than boot1.efi.


> > But then again, if you are using stock (generic) OS on embedded system,
> you are already doing it wrong and will get into the trouble sooner or
> later:)
>   I can not say, is NanoBSD "stock" or not :-)
>

One of the big reasons I did the latest changes was to make it possible for
NanoBSD to work better.

Warner



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