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Date:      Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:55:43 -0600
From:      Jacques Vidrine <n@nectar.com>
To:        "David E. Cross" <dec@phoenix.its.rpi.edu>
Cc:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>, Johan Larsson <gozer@ludd.luth.se>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Rob Nelson <rob@mag-net.com>, FreeBSD Hackers <hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: 3com 3c509 card 
Message-ID:  <199712161456.IAA01047@kai.communique.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.971215221201.13325A-100000@phoenix.its.rpi.edu> 
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.971215221201.13325A-100000@phoenix.its.rpi.edu>

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I'll second that ... I've used FreeBSD for 3 years, and used almost
exclusively 3COM 3c509 cards for 10BaseT.  I'd guess that we have at
least 3 dozen boxes running with these cards, and they perform well.

We starting using the 3COM cards after having bad luck with NE2000
clone cards. *shrug*

Just wanted to point out that Your Mileage May Vary.

Jacques Vidrine <n@nectar.com>

On 15 December 1997 at 22:15, "David E. Cross" <dec@phoenix.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > > So my suggestion is that you _don't_ ship your computers with 3com cards,
> > > at least not the 509.
> > 
> > I'd have to ask why anyone would use a 3c509 when an NE2000 clone is 
> > cheaper, faster and better supported.
> > 
> > Alternatively, I'd have to wonder why anyone would contemplate shipping 
> > a hardware combination that they haven't tested extensively in-house 
> > first.
> > 
> 
> Ok... this I take offence at.. I have always had great troubles with the
> NE2000 cards and compatibles in all areas (from working to performance).
> I have 2 3c509s in my system, and have only had a problem once (Back with
> FreeBSD 2.1.5 I think, which got pulled because of the problem).  As for
> performance... I have done cross subnet installs with these cards and got
> a sustained (on a 1.5 Gigabyte file) transfer of 800 K Bytes per second
> (between 2 3c509s, across 2 subnets with other computers)... I am *very*
> pleased with these cards.  My understanding of the 'buggy' comment comes
> from the PNP nature of these cards.
> 
> --
> David Cross
> ACS Consultant
> 



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