Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:49:40 -0600 From: Mark Felder <feld@FreeBSD.org> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent Message-ID: <1393264180.28812.87188993.20F1344F@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <530B5DA7.1050902@digsys.bg> References: <CAFY7cWBh0ThajQpK4wZYj0wPrhTL608wtNDQNvOLnryjp4_jCg@mail.gmail.com> <20140223211155.GS1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <942222.61849.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <530B5DA7.1050902@digsys.bg>
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2014, at 8:56, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > > On 24.02.14 13:47, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I don't believe BSD users use base system of itself to send and receive email. They use ports (FreeBSD) or equivalent in other BSDs. > > One of the beauties of the BSD 'base system' is that upon installation > you have an usable workstation/server environment that can be > immediately used for most Internet-related tasks -- and this most > certainly includes SMTP. Or NTP. Or... used to include DNS. > And one of the warts is our dedication to long support on FreeBSD releases; FreeBSD 8 is still supported with 8.3 and 8.4 releases. RELENG_8 was branched in August of 2009. FreeBSD 8.4 has an estimated EoL of June 30 2015. This is nearly 6 years since the original release -- an incredible amount of time to be maintaining such complex software. (Though I'm aware that Sendmail's release process is rather slow) > We can strip pieces of FreeBSD off and end up with an kernel. Or we > could keep the system very much usable out of the box. > Imagine a world where everything in FreeBSD is a package and we have a working "PROVIDES" framework. Upon installation you can choose the software that "provides" the MTA role. Same for DNS, NTP, database, webserver... That would be a great accomplishment along with a framework to create a master install image utilizing the options/packages you desire. I think this type of thing is definitely plausible if we keep moving forward. My personal opinion remains that complex software is better served/secured/maintained when it is handled in ports not in base.
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