From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Jan 23 19:53:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03017 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:53:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03008; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:53:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@piglet.dstc.edu.au) Received: (from jason@localhost) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA22103; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 13:52:49 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade Message-Id: <199901240352.NAA22103@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Subject: Re: new dist area ? To: arnej@math.ntnu.no (Arne H. Juul) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 13:52:49 +1000 (EST) Cc: jason@dstc.edu.au, freebsd-maintainers@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990123023417.24464.qmail@huset.math.ntnu.no> from "Arne H. Juul" at Jan 23, 99 03:34:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD-current -> branches/-current personally i think it's a mistake to have a directory name like -current, but i'm not a maintainer.. > There are a couple of things I don't understand about the first of > these, though. According to the README it's supposed to contain > sources, and there's a supfile.cvsup which could be used to get the > same sources via cvsup. But there are some directories which doesn't > look like sources (and can I get them via cvsup at all?) > XF86332 - binaries? > XF86333 - binaries? > commerce - binaries? > xperimnt - packed sources? misc stuff? > > If these aren't part of a CVS branch, it's somewhat counter-intuitive > having them in branches/-current. At least the README file needs to > be updated to explain what they are and why they're here (like: these > are here for historical reasons :-) i'm getting a little frustated at changes with no warnings. am i not on a list somewhere where perhaps someone is sending out all the changes that are occuring ? the temptation is getting really strong to give up trying to be a complete mirror and simply mirror one release, one set of packages and make the rest someone elses problem. apart from just the general userbase (who complain to US that our site is incomplete and not up to date and aren't interested in explanations that ftp.freebsd.org just decided to move 1-2G around), our downstream mirrors don't tend to be terribly impressed when they are relying on us to be up to date and stable. can one of the archive maintainers please post an update on what has happened, what they plan to happen and include things like du usage of trees and planned further disk usage ? i'd also like to understand how packages are put into the ports tree. Are they all built from scratch and just populated into there (in which case i better give up trying to even bother mirroring packages, as i'd have to fetch 1G everytime it's rebuilt) ? i'm using a combination of `mirror' (fmirror doesn't compile yet on solaris 2.6.. looking into it. sigh) and CVSup and one or both would appear to be broken currently by structural changes. are hard links used extensively in the archive ? another case for either using rsyncd which allows your downstream mirrors to save on disk by mirroring hardlinks, or for running nicolai langfeldt's (sp?) md5 checksum hard linking space saver. -jason -- jason andrade dstc pty ltd jason@dstc.edu.au senior sysadmin level 7, GPS Building 78 i just wanna be phn +61-7-33654307 university of queensland bluemisty fax +61-7-33654311 queensland 4072 australia and barefooted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message