From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jan 27 16:15:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20624 for alpha-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:15:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from eterna.binary.net (eterna.binary.net [205.183.56.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20565 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:15:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yura@matrix.binary.net) Received: from matrix.binary.net (yura@matrix.binary.net [205.183.56.2]) by eterna.binary.net (8.8.7-BN-0.05/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA22582; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:16:45 -0600 (CST) Received: (from yura@localhost) by matrix.binary.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA13315; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:15:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980127181540.32762@matrix.binary.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:15:40 -0600 From: Yura Socolov To: Jacques Vidrine Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD/Alpha Web page References: <199801251804.TAA01299@panke.panke.de> <16311.885757044@time.cdrom.com> <19980127135841.61631@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19980127072011.01389@matrix.binary.net> <199801271558.JAA26236@kai.nectar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <199801271558.JAA26236@kai.nectar.com>; from Jacques Vidrine on Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 09:58:27AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 09:58:27AM -0600, Jacques Vidrine wrote: > Didn't they challenge Intel once as a member of some consortium that > was rallying around the MIPS processor (called ACE maybe)? Perhaps. Don't Intel's processors account for 100% of all processors installed in Compaq's boxes though? > If NT r00l3z, wouldn't a company like Compaq enjoy the advantage of > being able to manufacture its own CPUs for its workstations and > servers? I thought Digital has sold most of its production facilities to Intel as part of that lawsuit settlement last fall? Meaning that Compaq hasn't actually acquired a lot of manufacturing units as part of this deal... > Wouldn't Compaq also like to have machines running Digital UNIX to > compete in the UNIX server market, where it has no real presence other > than SCO right now? I would doubt that. Probably it's more appealing to Compaq to be friends with the M company and their NT, and also with Intel, rather then compete with them both. So it would be easier for them to say that NT rules the world, and convince of that all those fortune 500 companies, especially given the fact that NT already runs on Alphas. Besides, NT certainly beats any given Unix, right? *g* >From the pretty extensive coverage of the deal at www.news.com, it looks to me like Compaq may be using Alpha, but only "until Intel rolls out IA-64 in 1999". Which sounds logical. And even though there are perfect application areas for alphas now, like visualization and everything, and price/performance of alphas beats any given Intel chip now, that's all there "until Intel rolls out IA-64 in 1999". Even if IA-64 is going to suck, it will all be about marketing and related areas... I hope i'm wrong. -- Yura Socolov FP: A7192ABD96E15F5 19AB21E60C34109 -- Systems Administrator, Binary Net http://www.binary.net/ -- -- "How many sysadmins does it take to manage a Zero Administration network?" -- -- a.s.r