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On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 1:05 AM Paul Procacci wrote: > If you do anything other than using your machine as a simple "Desktop" I'd > personally recommend against using NVIDIA. > You didn't mention anything of the sort so I'm speculating a bit. > Why do some people (not you per se but "people" in general) assume that nVidia is no good for anything beyond just the most basic stuff on FreeBSD... I have a GT1030 (no DisplayPort) that works just fine on the most demanding loads I can throw at it like playing movies at the maximum hardware specified frame rate and resolution (2160x1440@30 FPS [according to the HW specs this is the max a GT 1030 can do on HDMI]). Note I have heard reports from people with more modern cards that there is zero difference between what the HW can do and what the OS allows it to do with *ANY* nVidia cards. If these two things above don't concern you, then you can ignore me > entirely. These are just two things that came to mind immediately. > I've had no problems using any nvidia card I've thrown at a desktop machine > otherwise. > Since your comments about nVidia are incorrect why mention it except to show your personal dislike for nVidia (not actual performance). -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org