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Date:      Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:26:12 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Paul Herman <pherman@frenchfries.net>
To:        Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@inwind.it>
Cc:        Doug Barton <DougB@gorean.org>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Softupdates question
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007101513070.53524-100000@bagabeedaboo.security.at12.de>
In-Reply-To: <20000710.13040500@bartequi.ottodomain.org>

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On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:

> Essentially, I thought that avoiding these writes in conjunction with
> softupdates (smart metadata management) would not do harm.
> 
> Also, a number of posts had showed that a few people were actually
> using softupdates *and* noatime.

Now you guys are just being silly.  Do you even notice the difference?  
I mean, this sort of metadata isn't handled synchronously by
softupdates anyway.  Softupdates is pretty smart as it is.

A very intensive "find /usr/ports" lasting 2 minutes (that's 12700+
directories, nearly 100 atime updates per second with many bufdaemon
wakeups during that time) showed me only a 2% time difference between
atime and noatime with softupdates.  Now really...

...and that isn't even realistic behaviour for a server.  Tell me,
where would this make a difference (and how much)?

Numbers numbers numbers...

-Paul.



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