From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 21 19:48:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEB116A4CE; Sat, 21 Aug 2004 19:48:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail45.e.nsc.no (mail45.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B80C43D2D; Sat, 21 Aug 2004 19:48:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from solskogen@carebears.mine.nu) Received: from carebears.mine.nu (ti400720a080-1964.bb.online.no [83.108.199.172]) by mail45.nsc.no (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7LJmNhv019068; Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:48:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.carebears.net [127.0.0.1]) by carebears.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B964727F2DB; Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:48:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from carebears.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 12666-05; Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:48:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (funshine.carebears.net [192.168.0.9]) by carebears.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F87427F060; Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:48:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Christer Solskogen To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" In-Reply-To: <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: The Carebears / .jduB Message-Id: <1093117713.619.2.camel@funshine.carebears.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:48:33 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis at tenderheart.carebears.net cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: sound in CURRENT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 19:48:29 -0000 On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 20:37, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 19:13:13 +0200 > Christer Solskogen wrote: > > > -----Forwarded Message----- > > > From: Christer Solskogen > > > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > > Subject: sound in CURRENT > > > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:26:03 +0200 > > > > > > FreeBSD funshine.carebears.net 5.3-BETA1 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA1 #1: Sat > > > Aug 21 15:51:04 CEST 2004 > > > root@funshine.carebears.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FUNSHINE amd64 > > > > > > I cant get sound working on my SB Live. > > > I have the following in kernel config: > > > device sound > > > device "snd_emu10k1" > > > > > > It seems like I dont have any sound modules either in /boot/kernel > > > (yeah, i know the modules are named snd_*) > > > > > > (no need to CC: back to me. I`m subscribed) > > > > Could this only be on amd64? > > There are no sound modules on amd64 yet; sound *must* be compiled into > the kernel. > > I don't know about the SB Live; I thought it was supposed to be one of > the better-supported cards. Apparently not. And to think I > was on the verge of buying one recently in hopes of curing my own sound > problems. > > That being said, all I can add is that sound on amd64 appears to be > seriously broken, with no fix in sight. I've tried both the onboard > sound (nVidia nForce3) and my old es1371 card (which works fine on my > old i386 Athlon box), and both break down after a certain period of time > with "pcm0:play:0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead", after which, > sound is no longer useable until a reboot. > > I've seen other reports from people who can't even get their sound > chipsets to work at all. And whoever is currently maintaining the sound > code has been *awfully* quiet lately. Feels like a waste of time > reporting anything. > > Frankly, I'm rather disgusted with FreeBSD's sound support in general. > Broken pcm devices, no MIDI; it's pathetic. I'm really quite close to > giving up on ever resolving the sound problems under amd64 and just > installing a Linux distro, which actually, I may just do anyway, > regardless, since it's highly doubtful we'll ever catch up to Linux on > the sound front. > > This is really a sad state of affairs, it truly is. I can remember a > time with the old Voxware drivers when I could play MIDI files on > my old AWE 64 with soundfont support and everything, and it sounded > fantastic. What do we have now? Timidity. Bleah! > > Drastic as it may sound, I would vote in favor of scrapping the current > sound system altogether and porting the Linux stuff over to FreeBSD. > Let's face it; they're light-years ahead of us in the multimedia > department, and we'll never catch up to them, not with the terrible base > we're starting from. > > I wanted to scream when Voxware was pulled years ago, but I held my > peace (not like there was much choice in the matter). But I never > expected things would still be in such a shoddy, primitive state this > many years later. > > Not to mention the recent rash of buildworld/buildkernel breakages > lately from hurried, poorly tested commits. Does anyone even bother > trying to compile their stuff anymore before committing? > > Ah well, just ranting here. Don't mind me. I'm just seriously > disgruntled. I've only been using this OS for the last eight years, and > never would have dreamed I'd reach a point where I'd seriously consider > abandoning it, but it's starting to look like that time may have come. > I really can't take much more of this. > > Oh, that reminds me. Time to pay a visit to FreeBSDMall and cancel my > subscription. Not gonna continue shelling out for broken software. > Okay, i really dont want you to tell you this, but i do have to. I forgot I changed my soundcard, as I dont have the SB Live anymore. I was using something else. And when adding the RIGHT card into the kernelconfig it worked. My bad. -- cso, jerk. Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself.