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Date:      Mon, 11 Dec 2017 13:39:40 -0500
From:      Baho Utot <>
Subject:   Re: Boot issue after upgrade
Message-ID:  <>
In-Reply-To: <20171211130802.0ed35a13@gecko4>
References:  <> <> <20171211130802.0ed35a13@gecko4>

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On 12/11/2017 1:08 PM, mfv via freebsd-questions wrote:
> Hello All,
> There is ample evidence from this thread that Baho Utot is a troll
> whose first language is not English.

Call me any name you want if it makes you feel better, I really don't care.

> Moreover, it is likely that his email name is not his actual name but
> his nom de guerre.  After doing some research on the web it appears
> that "baho utot" means "stinky fart" in the Tagalog language.  When I
> asked a friend who was born and raised in the Philippines what these
> words meant his translation was "obnoxious fart".
> If Baho Utot does not know Tagalog he has my sincere apologies and
> sympathies for this unfortunate coincidence.  But his language still
> needs to be more temperate.
> Marek

Yes I know Tagalog and visayan.

My points stand, ie

Packaged base is terrible at best

Can not boot ZFS raidz ( not ZFS mirror )

No one has a clue about installing/using grub in the about environment

Documentation sucks ( doesn't exsist ) if you want something beyond dead 
simple installation.

No matter how you want to paint them they are valid

>> On Mon, 2017-12-11 at 11:12 "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions"
>> <> wrote:
>> On Sun, December 10, 2017 22:00, Paul Pathiakis wrote:
>>> Yes, CentOS compiles from RH, however, all the most recent ported
>>> utilities come from cutting edge, not from RH.  It leads to
>>> instability.  RH stays with stuff that has stabilized and had the
>>> bugs shaken out.  They leave all of that to CentOS and Fedora before
>>> incorporating to RH.
>> That statement is false.  If you doubt me then send your claim as made
>> above to Johnny Hughes <> and let us know what
>> response you get.
>> We are moving away from CentOS to FreeBSD. But that has to do with
>> RedHat's desire to become the Linux incarnation of Microsoft and has
>> nothing to do with the integrity of the CentOS team.  CentOS is a
>> binary reproduction of the corresponding RHEL release; saving only the
>> copyright and trademark removals.
> Hello,
> Cheers ...
> Marek
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