From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Nov 5 2:19:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F393B37B416; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 02:19:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fA5AJVT87471; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 02:19:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: , Subject: RE: NatWest? no thanks Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 02:19:30 -0800 Message-ID: <004101c165e3$5b5715e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <15333.31190.717768.983778@guru.mired.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Meyer >Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 9:25 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG; chat@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: RE: NatWest? no thanks > > >> It may be cynical to say this but wouldn't it be cheaper if someone like >> AOL was sued for access problems, for them to simply work with >Microsoft and >> release a blind-enabled IE than to redesign their many websites. Not only >> would it be cheaper but also profitable. > >What really happened when AOL was sued by the National Federation for >the Blind is probably safer.. They settled out of court after AOL >agreed to make the next version of their software accessible. >MicroSoft didn't need to get involved. > Well, there you go - it's cheaper to redesign the AOL software than to fix the sites it's being used to view. >> 3) Even if there was a US Supreme Court ruling that mandated ADA for >> commercial >> websites, how would it apply if the website content was not about something >> that a blind person can use. > >If a blind person were acting in some capacity for a a sighted person >- i.e., considering buying a gift, or researching options or some such >thing. > Hmmm... but how would a blind person research which porno site had the better pictures? Or how would a blind person select a modern art painting for a gift? >You know they really do put braille on the buttons in the >drive-through ATMs. > :-) Yeah, I've heard that joke before too, but actually since the same people make the ATM's that are used both as walk-up and as drive-through, your going to see that because it's cheaper to only make one kind of button and use it in both types. The ones that I can't figure out are the elevators in parking garages. Unlike ATM's, elevator buttons aren't standard even within the same manufacturer so the ATM reason doesen't apply there. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message