From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 19 10:41:41 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA0F1F4D17 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:41:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic312-25.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic312-25.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.178.96]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 480rvR54bbz46rQ for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: x1dUsGUVM1mp4yIgRSCTUI8bLKeHc7HB4QSaPUYyEqZTMEYT_I59AvTGzqyT_EU M3qww.7jEeFDQifl0LkUpP1RlEE6K0ReN.61tOELt6grlMSfhv4NxZpqdu3FClW7a3CDbjWCvrKl uXFog8vkkN34vauuZgU1iuMMINUlIhrBp8uzZe4GqWuxAsxRkwf_ZDeMq.YX2f5_QrDlTVkerLRj WnBw5tE72Rtuj5TCRL5rOJVf3spcoPDa_1sX9J8XRsUiqCFqBjTdfXxx5TQmbXw.9BMl2HzKDw0x o.Cf3bhgbwhlAqSfo0IkxdS_owjjr0CY6oux6XJgHmwYfk6dfXtocfXkMHFdiudueIrctsa4zYSd nbPxHmgm9pkNRxL9XtR241QJTnWfk6X9.q5UIlDPUyihtXWHgEcNAWH1CIx7svsXgITjiT1djcV7 cBv06kfPWNMG5ndun3oN12vjYYdDXIord9HNIYZzUjQZu6qJstVVrw_npRMcCHm1GIE07Q3txgra 5KolYHjKUXI7v4RdQfL88fqDZ9izVLH01xj8ioQp82sXKnyznVFW5rZ5teh5kWrSjIVIH4V4NRaA hxM2BSxwehOudcjSa7KPUTtnvDGYzE98vmxFhIVhLGGCEpYIhvySzClO2mJYSyPApJVh_Jlauuna GncFmR2mpMsBJ41kzWmZuofthQ4lY57UKU4rvRLCbpzEfPypz_sw3Iz8QarikCP_7GPCL88e.sYg i3LJO9erJi3NyWPxeX2YdkvfjzyhcJMNvwFhHTIJIsbZLMlftgnhB6ZFhDAhmc9pyyOCQmwla3Bh pii1dF2C8OINPnzbNcqRyEJf70xPXF9JlwhhOemvnP8JC8qrCbSjFz6I2XyH2kVdD5D.WZL6SO4t jfIIbwEtEaMd97nFExUWEIRVkXX62MBujrNBrzeBN3SzA_IaDAqaBtk_uoUjhBoINHnBcZXwtqen D2kfoLGvEmZTZ.W7DI5Mhi7bF4qNTHigg9TYDUtcKvhUlE0kZGXJ1KCXVgSel7FByYldJpQvha8v FWJR5WzPOfvKlnlyRJ6eV6LoKQ7m7uUaxGiNuANUL9UholIfP.spqlnJJh6orUCVccXFuNPKPbVx SZ11_HmH4Ml9OaS6laZcORGiRgO2zrjQ4AiI0zsw3h4C8o3dXp5_Ou9rMjZlPOG6a4Bnkg3Dos.l 5g5P64I2MD5wbMLN9Tt2.JbateVZmibP7eGY2.E.FcwqG47TOpsewYLhsaVILmx65iqZhJif8DMV b9woql4Fpg0ftF3W5ZFmlZSmBNDdPkYWQf5Pc9CZiH8Gb_rNJLJQ22Ih5.RDY_ntJz9ODQTL2VBP 2YImylwA4CA6WhA8mSN9FJzbdOdpOsNPxafMF.lknFkMICvP0cpugLzd1FWjjhijGbnITtOzOgs3 6J4XASQTPMJePDs71GPXGhgoQS.bRoXTtmg-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic312.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:41:37 +0000 Received: by smtp411.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 35b184e6052d55b57e6be003a9489dd4; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:41:39 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: sysctl and /sysfs Message-ID: <20200119114139.39e8faa4@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20200119064151.7f781748.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4538784.31r3eYUQgx@t800> <20200119064151.7f781748.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 480rvR54bbz46rQ X-Spamd-Bar: + X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.14 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.78)[0.781,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[96.178.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (5.60), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.20), asn: 34010(1.74), country: GB(-0.08)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.85)[0.852,0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[96.178.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:41:41 -0000 On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 06:41:51 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >> In the spirit of Unix philosophy "everything is a file" [...] > >In context of Linux... > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-IWMbJXoLM#t=8m20s Funny, but I just watched the beginning and it actually is no reason to migrate from one FLOSS OS to another. Btw. actually nobody does echo "random" values, IOW it's polemic. I also doubt that his Microsoft PowerPoint alike presentation regarding "$ echo foo > bar" does the job, more likely you need to either "$ echo foo | sudo tee bar" or to "# echo foo > bar". On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:41:42 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >In Linux land, there are several startup management systems, >with systemd probably being the most prominent one. My assumption >is: Before FreeBSD attempts to implement something comparable, >maybe Linux should be standardized... but yeah, I know, that's >not going to happen... ;-) Actually there is no valid LSB. LSB test suites are comparable to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defeat_device . However, as pointed out many times before on this list. There are some valid reasons to prefer Linux over any BSD (or vice versa) and there are as well reasons to even prefer restricted proprietary operating systems over any FLOSS OS, too. Actually we are still unable to get the fine "Eierlegende Wollmilchsau", https://www.google.de/search?q=eierlegende+wollmilchsau&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZ4Kbzu4_nAhWHYVAKHXkiCgUQ_AUoAXoECBIQAw&biw=1920&bih=919 , https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovogena_lano-lakto-porko (I don't understand Esperanto, but there's no English Wiki available, so it might be the second best choice of all languages available by the Wiki at 2020-01-19). Regards, Ralf