From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 19:16:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFE916A469 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0102.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C8113C442 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id e5so360144rng for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:16:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=AmBmsmm703ZYa+jX14R7wKN4iBQSwauziVAb54K+OVc=; b=Rl1tjnTo1vgExdymVIoeRHCutCY6zFLV8KbUY251kUB6bLhHkZ25RW0KSns2mOyNJr0K82w27ltoEw0oJva9twkSB9U2EirpRqF5UIPAtO0S9EHFwd3ymc1BszNtPYr9eeVyqIlIIV74FJYI6tqfH9YLF+fZtv03DCi8D6HmJgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Zej0hvc4sPe/qJBIqnFj8l4gQoQU52fIrYONzL9rb0lRMFOT8XBNOeMckP3+paPmawqBZWCDufgaUr/0//vCol8vWoSLNuR73kC7AtAbKEKnjTs/aS3pSsmjneF0AfhAh7NFCWzl6c0cyLQxJropa4B2FNCvRFU4E87LwON2vsw= Received: by 10.150.192.7 with SMTP id p7mr375869ybf.1197400592158; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:16:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.200.17 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:16:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:16:32 -0800 From: "Kip Macy" To: "Sam Fourman Jr." In-Reply-To: <11167f520712111105l7a897d60w36de6c8ad7cb7b1d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <11167f520712082309s20895ae0se1780b029745c055@mail.gmail.com> <11167f520712111105l7a897d60w36de6c8ad7cb7b1d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 NVIDIA support in FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:16:33 -0000 On Dec 11, 2007 11:05 AM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > On Dec 9, 2007 1:35 AM, Kip Macy wrote: > > The problem is that it is a moving target. In order to support NVIDIA > > long term FreeBSD would need to maintain API parity with Linux. As > > Linux adds new interfaces, NVIDIA incorporates them into their driver. > > Unless someone steps up and decides to own the continuing support > > effort to add those interfaces as the need arises, it isn't likely to > > happen. > > so if I understand the situation correctly, maintaining feature / > Performance parity with Linux for Nvidia video cards is possible, > but it isn't likely that a current FreeBSD developer will donate the > (probably large) amount of time to maintain it. It isn't that large, but that is the gist of it. > would maintaining API parity with linux for the purpose of allowing > 64bit 3D acceleration support in any way hurt FreeBSD's long term > Goals ? Not at all. It simply isn't a priority for the handful of people that are currently able to do this. > > > > On the upside, it looks like ATI's opening up is starting to bear fruit. > > from what it sounds like it ATI may be more of a realistic hope for > compiz, and 3D video games to one day work on 64bit FreeBSD > > Thank you for taking the time to explain this. I don't know the status of ATI at the moment - if you want 3D support on FreeBSD right *now* I think nvidia/i386 is your only option. -Kip