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Date:      Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:39:10 -0500
From:      David Schultz <das@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Ivan Voras <ivoras@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Directory rename semantics.
Message-ID:  <20081107163910.GA7007@zim.MIT.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <gf168k$48o$1@ger.gmane.org>
References:  <20081027193545.GA95872@pin.if.uz.zgora.pl> <20081028161855.GA45129@zim.MIT.EDU> <20081106192829.GA98742@pin.if.uz.zgora.pl> <20081106195558.GG2281@submonkey.net> <gf168k$48o$1@ger.gmane.org>

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On Fri, Nov 07, 2008, Ivan Voras wrote:
> That would be desirable if we want file system semantics to be a
> property of the OS instead of individual file systems. (Though I don't
> know if there's ever been a conscious decision about this particular
> goal).

I don't agree with this. The access control rules are
fundamentally a property of the filesystem. Nobody expects msdosfs
or ntfs to have the same semantics as UFS, for instance.
Furthermore, even if you hacked up all the local filesystems to
support the "FreeBSD rules" (as a recent commit seems to have
done), you'd still get different semantics for remote NFS and AFS
mounts.



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