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Date:      Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:47:33 -0700
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        "Jerry Bell" <jerry@syslog.org>, "Sean Countryman" <sean@rackoperations.com>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Found security expliot in port phpBB 2.0.8  FreeBSD4.10
Message-ID:  <6.2.0.14.2.20041229104315.05a8f5f8@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <3741.209.134.164.137.1104330634.squirrel@209.134.164.137>
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At 07:30 AM 12/29/2004, Jerry Bell wrote:
  
>At the end of the day, PHP isn't really the problem.  The problem is that
>people are not taking the time to learn how to code securely given the
>tool they are using.

In this case, the problem is really not the language but the Web itself. 
Preserving the state of an ongoing transaction in a secure and tamper-proof
manner is a thorny problem regardless of language -- and it has gotten
harder because the abuse of cookies to invade privacy has caused so many
people to restrict them or turn them off. Absent a default solution that's
already been honed for security, programmers will tend to cut corners or
will have to learn security basics from scratch -- the hard way.

--Brett Glass



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