From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 23:48:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C47AA48A3D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29CD714DA for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-184-59-147-149.neo.res.rr.com [184.59.147.149]) by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8bdb480b; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id c5133900 TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:48:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1450223318.7776.15.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: Looking for fully working Intel-based laptop From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Adam Vande More , Anton Sayetsky Cc: FreeBSD Questions Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:48:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1450223247.7776.13.camel@michaeleichorn.com> References: <1450223247.7776.13.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:48:40 -0000 On Tue, 2015-12-15 at 18:47 -0500, Michael B. Eichorn wrote: > On Tue, 2015-12-15 at 17:07 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Anton Sayetsky > m> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dell Precision M6600 > > > Thanks, I will take a look at this model. > > > > > > > acpi complains about SD controller coming out of resume, and > > > > doesn't > > > work after resume(it does before).  Since I don't use it, it's > > > not > > > an issue > > > for me. > > > I don't care about SD too, so this is not a problem. > > > > > > > I'm also not sure about "totally disable Intel > > > > graphics".   Obviously > > > you can just not load the driver, but that will not eliminate > > > power > > > consumption.  I have the nvidia card for this laptop as well, but > > > it isn't > > > physically installed so I cannot confirm it would work, although > > > I > > > expect > > > that it would. > > > I'll try to explain. Correct me if I wrong. > > > It's about so called nVidia Optimus. AFAIK, this works by doing > > > rendering > > > on Intel or nVidia card, but the display output on Intel > > > unconditionally. > > > > > I think it switches the output between them internally when stuff > > like 3D > > is active. > > > > > Latest supported Intel graphics on FreeBSD is that comes with Ivy > > > Bridge. > > > So if I will buy Haswell-based laptop, I won't get fully > > > functional > > > video > > > subsystem even if nVidia card is present. I'm also not sure if > > > disabling > > > screen output through Intel is physically possible. > > > > > This laptop is a Sandy Bridge and the low end Intel-only video > > performance > > is excellent for all tasks I perform, the most demanding of such > > would be > > playback of full HD video eg streaming 1920x1080 TrueColor.  I no > > lag, no > > stuttering, no distortion.  I suppose it's 3D isn't so good, but I > > don't > > use it. > > > > I believe it probable Haswell support will be in 11.0, but not > > guaranteed. > > For my needs, Haswell/Broadwell doesn't provide much value over Ivy > > Bridge > > and Sandy/Ivy Bridge models are still in a sweet spot for used > > pricing. > > I would quibble with this, the Iris Pro Graphics are a significant > step > up from the HD Graphics line. It means I have to use Linux (for now), > but it is a rather nice GPU. Doh. You said _my_ needs ignore me I am a bit slow today. > > > > > All in all it's a nice laptop which has allowed me to get rid of > > several > > other systems.  However it is big and heavy.  It does not fit in > > standard > > laptop carriers eg a laptop backpack, and it has a hypersensitive > > touchpad.  But there aren't many laptops capable of of 32GB RAM > > along > > with > > all its other power. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb > sd.org"