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Date:      Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:27:14 +0200
From:      Guido van Rooij <guido@gvr.org>
To:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: IPFW or IPFILTER?
Message-ID:  <20011016212713.A6881@gvr.gvr.org>
In-Reply-To: <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de>; from olli@secnetix.de on Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:16:05PM %2B0200
References:  <20011014180756.A17546@adv.devet.org> <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de>

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On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:16:05PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:
>  > IIRC ipfilter does not allow '_any_ ICMP' in such a case: if you send an
>  > 'ICMP echo' with keep-state then only 'ICMP echo reply' packets will be
>  > allowed to pass through.
> 
> That's bad, because you usually want to see other types of
> ICMP replies, too, such as TTL exceeded, host unreachable,
> communication prohibited etc.
> 

Of course that is allowed in the UDP and TCP cases. However, in the case of
ICMP request packets, you will never get back an ICMP error, because
the protocol forbids sending ICMP errors for ICMP packets.
To quote the rfc:
   To avoid the infinite regress of messages about messages
   etc., no ICMP messages are sent about ICMP messages.

-Guido

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