From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 2 10:12:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B82FEADAE for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 10:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail2.protonmail.ch (mail2.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AB5B72E8B for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 10:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:11:45 +0000 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: Media (img or iso) not working to install FreeBSD 11.2 in a old PC Message-ID: <4QnwhrRpgNf22Mn1qKGggSEJLB2bJLlD_QUuYZxBSPM0gZ82gKbT2Mg-_k5KyJ3lNIzLqSbKIf68xJIzSP1nfmxh9AknLZOBrBUe4sTDFB0=@protonmail.ch> In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.protonmail.ch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:12:07 -0000 > Which file I use? > My PC use BIOS (it is realy old), so I can not use UEFI media > I am trying to install with an usb, like I had done in the previus releas= es (10.X and before) > I belive that all files to install the release 11.X=C2=A0 are UEFI media,= (made GPT partitions and a /efi subdirectory) > Since the handbook says "Additional installation files are included for c= omputers that boot with UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface). The n= ames of these files include the string uefi." > None of the files in https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/i386/i386/= ISO-IMAGES/11.2/ had uefi in it's name > I only find files with uefi in it's name in release 10.4 for amd64 I had some troubles too when I installed FreeBSD from USB, although I had not the same problems. I solved by installing an earlier version then updating it: maybe it could work for you too. Lorenzo Salvadore. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 2 10:45:13 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47A7FEB8A6 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 10:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83D7E73CD0 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 10:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1535885113; x=1538477113; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=C7LFLkWZ61F8wJWaR3cF7J3z+3mB9XJiBljclLpWg7M=; b=Fgp8SFhJh2vw2cB4j+vB+WbYNQJquSaPiBpneK9gtD3eVJ1wnbfGsmNRzUWrtSvSGhDDNhrEBEElbhqbxi0VrrT2QPMknzK0fnN/xRwv0fxD0vO7PPLNNFn1SVI1hWs2VutB1DpeL31CMMQHghYl8JA31/PRwmdehxcDwCZtJV4= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOTkwMDAwMDE0ZWViYzkuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.h.in.socketlabs.com (r2.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 2 Sep 2018 06:45:05 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 2 Sep 2018 06:45:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fwPsN-000ADo-Cp; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:45:03 +0000 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 11:45:02 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: CeDeROM Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia Message-Id: <20180902114502.e59ab940d98cd43cd6f1ca11@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:45:13 -0000 On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 23:07:46 +0200 CeDeROM wrote: > What is the current AMD/ATI support for Open-Source? Do they provide > full GPU specification as opposed to nVidia? AMD/ATI opened up their interfaces and some core source code about a decade ago they still produce a closed source driver of their own but they support the open source Linux video driver apparently enthusiastically (according to one report it is now faster than the closed source one). Both Intel and AMD/ATI provide open source OpenCL stacks It really is nVidia that is the odd one out - but they do hold the high end of the hardware, the cards gamers and cryptocurrency miners lust after are all nVidia. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 2 12:00:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7243FED3FC for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 12:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurenchan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x233.google.com (mail-it0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C39076185 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 12:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurenchan@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x233.google.com with SMTP id h20-v6so12386455itf.2 for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 05:00:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7NdDgsi1boDWx705jfF/VhiM7B3JHXAJRTgIrFWdfCI=; b=rHxC3aoaqK+vqdrSVeRQVGZbLqasST4EUHuitVERGCPMu1P8VDGvdtxF99/7fqpsLd eKWhEHMiCjB7nyDNDvThR739/cymTPEBv5h7zY2qWgvyqv5UIjshP4++t+1JSSFOBEgQ BEgN6Zpbfue3+CoX34/L09BLbzd77nZbHXRiRgX6QKgs9egcsNXvMfipMO9W1MZ7zXFJ BRqGQDzXLTTi6DnLRH7ohlLH6tuBAZDsxEdiCg1SO5nv+hKMTF4MQzX6YfAQNIQa0/dz LKzIDnanygPLtdsLb9S5ofX1WIU+nnyZ0lcuhiUrLLDFhTuOaS3sNRed9YdE/tB9A5E1 jGOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7NdDgsi1boDWx705jfF/VhiM7B3JHXAJRTgIrFWdfCI=; b=UY4mTknGNgf+oh9LUVywF7B9fiMYgAt41eGLSLkMA5C0ifpCEBc7i4yZEt+DpzVvsT RG84q2QmWIKQxqaWVhqE1SwSh0feyTgVRzkDKGIE07qOeoUk7F7ZsRa7V4zPvhDzSd5U 9SMcmKTUFAdNezPcMWeNS76kGldA4rEVjGvF0WKzkH0LjQflV5ESvKeZwbnuy4EWHIKu ZLXwx/wkgNRVR+tfR2+ZWy2JKJ31q2R+R7hp7jA9vFDETOlVslv4X0Wdr4I4cde6a+tt /pr6AoJPWagYKkqHe1U4ByVcRnkzwHG/rfHsVGjhEuQgtagnzbVWbw2MD2A02//CeT6H PGag== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51D1zpPAQvGd0cSBw3YZTFDeDxaCWyAz9jOB783U1CyejyJMlbm5 wbgDVxkgkISbvA2qa1CbUtf9rrRTXcW8AEgZ0es= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbaDQkNVJ2maRPpWwivPxnFWqaCcWjbbc0hCxfkluZrNxGEMZ8PyQOvbSU/6LoYSQ6Kq82CVn/qNWbIMp0neUE= X-Received: by 2002:a02:1643:: with SMTP id a64-v6mr16934887jaa.133.1535889639476; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 05:00:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180902114502.e59ab940d98cd43cd6f1ca11@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20180902114502.e59ab940d98cd43cd6f1ca11@sohara.org> From: blubee blubeeme Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 20:00:28 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: CeDeROM , FreeBSD , Valeri Galtsev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 12:00:41 -0000 On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 6:47 PM Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 23:07:46 +0200 > CeDeROM wrote: > > > What is the current AMD/ATI support for Open-Source? Do they provide > > full GPU specification as opposed to nVidia? > > AMD/ATI opened up their interfaces and some core source code about > a > decade ago they still produce a closed source driver of their own but they > support the open source Linux video driver apparently enthusiastically > (according to one report it is now faster than the closed source one). > > Both Intel and AMD/ATI provide open source OpenCL stacks > > It really is nVidia that is the odd one out - but they do hold the > high end of the hardware, the cards gamers and cryptocurrency miners lust > after are all nVidia. > > -- > Steve O'Hara-Smith > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If you could see the proprietary codebase that some of these companies ship, you'd understand why they hesitate to open source it. 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([2a02:908:960:c43e:19ac:8a1f:20ce:9be3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j6-v6sm13621833wrq.25.2018.09.02.12.54.23 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Sep 2018 12:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: cpghost Message-ID: <82b82492-fcca-c627-de2b-4072e5902f34@cordula.ws> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 21:54:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 19:54:27 -0000 On 9/1/18 11:07 PM, CeDeROM wrote: > What is the current AMD/ATI support for Open-Source? Do they provide > full GPU specification as opposed to nVidia? To be frank: not that good either. I have an RX 580 running amdgpu open source driver. Xorg and OpenGL support is supperb. But OpenCL sucks big way. There is clover, the open source OpenCL implemention of Mesa, but it is totally unusable for anything serious (even OpenCL 1.1 and OpenCL 1.2). Even clinfo would dump core after displaying lots of infos on the GPU. Then there is AMD-APP, which is supposed to support OpenCL 1.2, but that is part of closed driver amdgpu-pro, which runs only on Linux. I'm dual-booting FreeBSD and Manjaro-Linux just to be able to do OpenCL stuff on Linux. But even there, the opencl-amd AUR package which extracts the OpenCL bits from the amdgpu-pro driver and puts them into the (much better and newer) amdgpu driver causes some packages like, say, xmr-stak-amd to generate invalid results on the GPU... which is, according to xmr-stak-amd developer due to the opencl support in amdgpu-pro 18.x driver to be broken, and that one has to downgrade to amdgpu-pro 17.x opencl. It is not easy to use OpenCL on AMD right now. They are developing the ROCm platform[1], which looks promising, but they are not there yet. [1] https://rocm.github.io/ > Best regards, > Tomek Regards, cpghost. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 2 23:06:51 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91E6FFC5A8 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 23:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw1-xc2d.google.com (mail-yw1-xc2d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EEC38BDA3 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 23:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw1-xc2d.google.com with SMTP id x83-v6so6830904ywd.4 for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 16:06:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=vtt/WXrReQ0Gqg/DOyLlaiXBr3dzSLPofsXj09KrPJo=; b=Dnak8olddRUm5wsIDRM1msodmJ6zbvRIce8SufbR9s0qaHNLDAYXIIM4qSC0JHWuvr JS4WGV6paW9dysBAUNCzolChCc0pO21XVy2x0yFSehZ6wWaeBf68aFizzLEcC4pKCyoh 2LNfe4DZLoNrGT4jUl4UBeRQvgKuDLu0XAk6xHb9vw+wt8zp47j12drATSMfr0SrzNC1 Z3oIgjaaHiRnWpbjC9NOY/NbT1Mee1L5zBu9KOzNEaBstMutUh2MgO8FkNjEv9Lxz3R0 5NfwgC3owvv/RriIBxG8ezvvsH6LLoDBuUlf6H1O5ZoE1VrpN19ArXTnXLi2iwJoRGBr mrmw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=vtt/WXrReQ0Gqg/DOyLlaiXBr3dzSLPofsXj09KrPJo=; b=DZ/JLIaa6JIqtuWU4ccBUYmhW6QyLqAYq5wL0muT/4xRbGgi50bRjakoK1HZtSwyti h0CxVxzEpiz8abPvnu5bWsjxho/QWbPjMuBTTLhWsQnSylDGgj41MGipXoJU1XUzxXl5 aaDLb+bUZLLUDuKvo1WseExlwCHTuuACDKjzJcJK5SI6CUjn7krs/ShvHd1zqKtl6m7u W3ah2DVrz+gdQa+oDnVI+dzcm+Tbt6s9jNXHUHtjBU1QMjGQ/Ei/t86aeKM0sXZs7jkj nsmRf7aMSGEGv5ezA2oUnSWpNZiPbFl404qUyx7i/d2ZV2QddQOV0HBJd2CFn+0q3hW5 pA4A== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CLnjnqtFEcv02K56P1r1QoSzFmacqdrJ2GZXXELiMMF9GS/Clv v9SSpdt3cFi9py46dC6LyOepmJBi1RG8N3eZE7Td3uH4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdavXWWpI3mpkX+XKyljvVdldZvpWvwIBSZdUPPIhwhG45A+2hziXTGVQkgUX73Vr4xOkbOTQPIBhA7A/OAw/1U= X-Received: by 2002:a81:8882:: with SMTP id y124-v6mr13960398ywf.96.1535929609324; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 16:06:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:d2cc:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 16:06:48 -0700 (PDT) From: William Dudley Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 19:06:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: DKIM is driving me nuts To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 23:06:51 -0000 I'm trying to make DKIM work on my FreeBSD 10.3, stock sendmail system. Since I don't know if the problem is sendmail or opendkim or DNS or what, I'm asking here. I followed this handy tutorial: https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/2016/06/01/add-dkim-signing-to-freebsd-servers And that "works" in the sense that emails end up with DKIM signatures. However, the DKIM test fails at the receiving end, depending on how the email is generated on my machine. The domain is casano.com MX is mail.casano.com, and reverse lookup of my (static) IP resolves to mail.casano.com. I have masquerade_as and masquerade_envelope set in sendmail.mc, so that email headers say the email comes from "casano.com", not " hostname.casano.com". ("hostname" is a place holder, see below.) The hostname (internally) of the machine is "dudley.casano.com". The external IP resolves to "mail.casano.com", which is exactly the same machine. So depending on how the email is generated, it appears to come from any of: casano.com dudley.casano.com mail.casano.com I have generated a DKIM key pair for each of the above. My selector is dudley-casano. I have tried putting the keys in corresponding DNS TXT records: dudley-casano._domainkey.casano.com dudley-casano._domainkey.mail.casano.com dudley-casano._domainkey.dudley.casano.com Still, emails sent from the command line (using Mail) fail DKIM check at the far end. Emails sent from my mailing list program, mailman, also fail. Emails sent from Thunderbird, which is running on another machine, passed, but I haven't tested that in a while and I've been dicking around with this for a few hours, so no guarantees. Questions(s): How does the DKIM key interact with the DNS records? Is there a way to make DKIM work regardless of how the machine is identified by the combination of MUA and sendmail ? Thanks, Bill Dudley From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 2 23:42:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D763CFFCF36 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 23:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-f68.google.com (mail-vk0-f68.google.com [209.85.213.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8529B8CB1E for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 23:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-f68.google.com with SMTP id e139-v6so7202754vkf.6 for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 16:42:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+IAc1OX6V2TDP5g1CkHP8xOzHSH6lxzK6/vMtyBpaeM=; b=qdiTpA10lCOfETUXQsKgp1mlfOFpUc7/gAW/DImmiVigAIfLHZc+1vhY5IY3Tm/Egk 3WRucAMt2dRiDrSnl8UMV9nFmBGDuXupQORFUg7h5hhDtZo6ai4UVySnX6x+EBD3fjnO 80/+B+NA2vsNw9Z8SVFMQr2/hIlAesrAqtZImff9N2Ho89NoBpW/bn9sZA0FGBvRtvw8 smmi87SQVtFrONxn/B1ilSg4PqXYf6n09t7aPNExxpoWe42Tz0dQQ51PNpvgtpwoZ+FW MpcgXwGHyZ8VaAVJ1yVTGMgG5hpIaa+FPRnxN8QQBUg4p/kbcVR2+qefwx7SXpjt4cEu Vhlw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51ChTjOQ6Ozc73QTa0hDt13vL2cKfeYrEyAzzR8qOKrDUiksRswb u1FihkRFnUhnP2r6jcHdzII5uO5Src+AQrBYSUHjFMQg X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZtz4jZaKOw5UOpFAtI90eGAXaYq7MSZq6FN3mf8ofYygX5FBel3YWELdBW+FPjvmWBFAhVS9M0/hI+wSSBHMo= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:2047:: with SMTP id g68-v6mr13337030vkg.103.1535925271006; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 14:54:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180902114502.e59ab940d98cd43cd6f1ca11@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20180902114502.e59ab940d98cd43cd6f1ca11@sohara.org> From: CeDeROM Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 23:55:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 23:42:25 -0000 On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 12:45 PM Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > What is the current AMD/ATI support for Open-Source? Do they provide > > full GPU specification as opposed to nVidia? > > AMD/ATI opened up their interfaces and some core source code about a > decade ago they still produce a closed source driver of their own but they > support the open source Linux video driver apparently enthusiastically > (according to one report it is now faster than the closed source one). > > Both Intel and AMD/ATI provide open source OpenCL stacks > > It really is nVidia that is the odd one out - but they do hold the > high end of the hardware, the cards gamers and cryptocurrency miners lust > after are all nVidia. Hmm, then I could consider ATI/AMD Radeon RX570 or 2x cheaper RX560.. anyone had any experience with those beasts and OpenCL on FreeBSD (and outside)? :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 3 13:19:32 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAD9FE96F2 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 13:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kravel@web.de) Received: from mout.web.de (mout.web.de [217.72.192.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.web.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DC5F84542 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 13:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kravel@web.de) Received: from [10.49.13.4] ([195.145.206.74]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lc8Xx-1fV9Bl3Pcb-00jaFF for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 15:06:24 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_Knollm=c3=bcller?= Subject: ATTO UL5D Ultra320 SCSI Adapter - Help! 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Hello Frank, I had the same problem with a ATTO UL5D card. You have to comment out lines 181 and 182 in /usr/src/sys/dev/mpt/mpt_pci.c where the card vendor gets checked. Like this: // if (pci_get_vendor(dev) != MPI_MANUFACTPAGE_VENDORID_LSILOGIC) // return (ENXIO) Here only LSI cards with MPI_MANUFACTPAGE_VENDORID_LSILOGIC = 1000 will be allowed, all others including ATTO = 117c will be ignored. After compiling a custom kernel without these lines your card will be initialized without problems. 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If i make the boot with an external CD drive,=A0 after booting the kernel,= =20 it semms some conflict with usb port It give me the messages: "uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished" uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished continuosly also after did the installation in the OS environment. Is=20 there a way to install the OS on my Laptop ? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 3 19:07:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B314FF2ABF for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 19:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail1.protonmail.ch (mail1.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA2D5720DB for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 19:07:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 19:07:06 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: Sysinstall on Laptop (Dell Inspiron 7537) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.protonmail.ch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 19:07:21 -0000 > Hi all, excuse me i don't speak the english very good... > > i can't install FreeBSD on a Laptop without floppy and CD support. > > If i make the boot with an external CD drive,=C2=A0 after booting the ker= nel, > it semms some conflict with usb port > > It give me the messages: > > "uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished" > > uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished > > uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished > > continuosly also after did the installation in the OS environment. Is > there a way to install the OS on my Laptop ? Have you tried installing from a USB key? If you speak Italian (from your name and your mail I guess you are Italian) you can write in Italian at my email address instead of the whole mailing list, if you prefer. In Italian: Hai provato ad eseguire l'installazione da chiavetta USB? Se parli italiano (dal tuo nome e dalla tua mail immagino tu sia italiano) puoi scrivermi in italiano al mio indirizzo email anzich=C3=A9 a tutta la mailing list, se preferisci. Lorenzo Salvadore. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 3 19:34:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80DAFF3F25 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 19:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb29.google.com (mail-yb1-xb29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 484E07385E for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 19:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb1-xb29.google.com with SMTP id t71-v6so492880ybi.7 for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 12:34:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=D1+7Gla5LUSCkqj29qKkN9vx4n7ZazLd8LuAKtvA0IM=; b=hnnokqG6K7efV5iNrsuqneo+lyu+0MwIpHem3MY6VdAdwI3j8BXA3H6wjJTkIPVVZC n7+X8Gyh/5Qoy52sgaktMnjexA1wBkN73NYGDfIJ9sgFzsIKDe+Hwaw+dH/phg84enrc dOqiqbEmBr0xU7v/tQ5a8IRc1lKE7SBOCiE5tRHSo4Lns79i84mKY587Nmd/wIEFsIMI a9tT2SZfpvMZFSp3/FghZigha2cmg+R+xj3em0bRNXGQHMrYTYxL6ANp7xUtwHQCRZt7 pHkwCV4jAn25ZY2hhVqOy7oLhkbjCFVXk0j7cBJH2YAL8OyqQ8pS5Qg/MgK6izCWvxW2 G1vw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=D1+7Gla5LUSCkqj29qKkN9vx4n7ZazLd8LuAKtvA0IM=; b=e/DGTdETzLgd8ouy1X5yW4nj+lMV2TVfl1WWnR/L7bSswaSq106ybFBZp9UySwES7k IGM59edXsKvNIsl7eJ7rjkosMd6phtFEhX5ouRv8nZ7p1UR4QvCDLG0pamrdL8Mgp4Po zALW7DlqQbmuHiQJam+2nRPOrrS37dW9i/Ab4UkOZaiUXkSVOmJnVjC5HaQZnywQvaH1 6LQCFDJruu/TJf49ejjEyvGrRAR5xshoe/l2EBpjLyM+zWV2QVpPqQyK/Vz4LwZIgMbd UZPTu74GCMezQPjBm7kld2nHD5LaW/3dZ/F5D6APbQ7wTYVGEXh84znAX3zxTShFGuCx eLNQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BlekNbUcXuw/axxlsB1aYrzmWksKJoQqapKaOlv9b/lfpL12II FY73lgYWjeId5yZdaK8hd3J3gpq0MduOtJ/8kF/pgg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZuqfrdin+lG1kU43rE9hfYolGI/ZPrX3wVIsrZ4aw6/TPt6Q40sJV2cWewMmJXlBwj2QQIaWS5x03jOpAKuJE= X-Received: by 2002:a25:e03:: with SMTP id 3-v6mr16476767ybo.456.1536003270612; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 12:34:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:2682:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 12:34:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2d9ca6fc33b9aa430233bc0862b65453.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <2d9ca6fc33b9aa430233bc0862b65453.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: William Dudley Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 15:34:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts To: "James B. Byrne" , freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 19:34:31 -0000 I have an SPF record. That is not the problem. The problem is that the server has three names: casano.com mail.casano.com dudley.casano.com and I cannot figure out how opendkim chooses which key to use to sign emails. Does it look at Message-Id? Does it look at Reply-to: (unlikely) ? Whatever field it uses, changes depending on if I use Thunderbird, Mail (mailx), or the mailman listserve to send the email. Thanks, Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 3:03 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Sun, September 2, 2018 19:06, William Dudley wrote: > > I'm trying to make DKIM work on my FreeBSD 10.3, stock sendmail > > system. > > Since I don't know if the problem is sendmail or opendkim or DNS or > > what, I'm asking here. > > > > You need a sender policy framework specification in your dns for the > domains you wish secured. You do not put the keys in this, just the > policy version, the authorised hosts, and the disposal option. > > Ours is: > > harte-lyne.ca. 172800 IN TXT > "v=spf1 ip4:209.47.176.16/26 ip4:216.185.71.0/26 > ip4:216.185.71.128/26 -all" > > The ~all at the end is called a soft fail. It means that recipients > may accept mail from another server, but that the sender should be > viewed with suspicion. If you change the disposal option to -all you > are directing the recipient to reject mail from any server other than > these. The soft fail approach is safer and recommended. > > If you employ dkim without a dns entry for your sender policy > framework, or with invalid SPF or multiple SPF dns records, then the > correct behaviour is to reject all mail from the sender since the > policy cannot be determined. > > -- > *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** > Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail > Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail > > James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca > Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca > 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 > Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 > Canada L8E 3C3 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 3 19:40:59 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD13FF429A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 19:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from NAM04-BN3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-oln040092009023.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.9.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT TLS CA 4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B74973ACC for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 19:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering if anyone has any experience with an APC UPS BackUPS Pro (B= X1500M) unit? I have an opportunity to pick up one for virtually nothing if= I want it. I am just not sure if it will work with FreeBSD. --=20 Carmel --=-=h+pU6Ent/JZUR/=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEh3rFs7ZCOM581rwKjsagALPkYOsFAluNjjUACgkQjsagALPk YOsA9ggAs41S3u3pbS8sZJGtKSZZI7NFAo3JOK3z8DShM26CId3hZSodENIchwlW X/P3we/nyL7M2U47ptaEbtTXfAQCoZ4OOVk8V/RBvan64YjaL6jYDAyGJqH7KSat 66fUjoKAzXmm18IiPIJPW7kzI/dctiQRdfuQ4cAGcLlYmMReLGAbFrwgA9eHjQK4 Yd+HNbiBYD/qFX3SKAwVgJFMO3NeOIHQum1dwdiUfzXV1iL9pP7qZX9OkbvOE5YY hpG77yOkzDO0RUzaADMHmgHE0Nv9bl8wVoUIffBona/QX0+pdRHA//T07o8HvhTv rWsCCz9rOsbx8O7eHbfeadxOHnrv2A== =XVbG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=h+pU6Ent/JZUR/=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 3 20:13:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28338FF4F1E for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 20:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x52d.google.com (mail-ed1-x52d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A038874E68 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 20:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ed1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id h33-v6so1574981edb.5 for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 13:13:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=x6iOeognJa08NL/7004a7iKJ/Am/6Fc6lN3y4tJA25A=; b=DxzuuyP06sZJPDp56gxZqX7tuzd64ozy7dhVvgsjfpE1hVt1voPT4BOT6XbabwX2tr bbyRrnGNF+QuvwhCU3c2NLBcEoOQUnfAFVjSN1zdttBHta0QpNl7Hq3QPeMbCXhjbGZY YWJl0Ys2hjc4leBBI9+8ExSTb1qNqj9bdpkXxGSpDB2o//LZm5QNJehzeE1qXpIoyUds /rcfwj6pvHv5+Y+8UCOkh81RJnZKb+KAEc56OYK/pPTNFXQFAV910JHv8B+N+m18EUm0 x6jVzsh6o3zMx1lNFmrJ++FmT32pLthib6CPe3cvje0UYyX8pkyjaBS8+05dpA+2+Y7j IQag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=x6iOeognJa08NL/7004a7iKJ/Am/6Fc6lN3y4tJA25A=; b=BjEL3o5ag1VCFrd9D/u77NAZrE8uLNTRWcXoN1oYIgSWjgv/+FrVPmGA167FsdwfYv z1/Qxf0s0qcc6r51Ndava5k8wdUiAzcvfT0WmaF1iB6aBnmLycWnLwX2jFbDLz/iyt44 JF6FkiBSMqoPWPCmwbK08e9XkGfgKd//G2Idyr0FISGTTxnwM+C7PCiSH8Fz7rr/Kqnm rDcivt1UJZAYrFGBj8bPdbTk2yLZAf5zkcBBJb2L+GJCIgcfC4H/vUC0uvEk8o4k65/Z zbBTjojFGBnIOduGwq2M0jBJ8anXqhKzeDICh9ozx9LiXTgR8fAh0U/UH/prHxS+Ukl/ 7cvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BUjj4OIL8eOdBS9fCNFcXw8FyN6KC7CJhld/Mwa/hcYL2kdUEE i7DlqRwT4xuDSdRKDqpEL8OxrxIYQHI+KiZkWHcR X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdaRuG/xEqPLZekRFAw64aMxPNZtFNUKFybzYIE/5Sg2kqfRQFYGQ4ZC4WnP4WaugUmVt/mBkGK6f7v+niTLj3o= X-Received: by 2002:a50:cf42:: with SMTP id d2-v6mr30502582edk.242.1536005590495; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 13:13:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Shamim Shahriar Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:13:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: APC UPS BackUPS Pro (BX1500M) To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 20:13:12 -0000 In my experience most APCs work excellent with FreeBSD, have not come across any that does not. Make sure you have the appropriate cable with it though. Best regards On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, 20:44 Carmel NY, wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has any experience with an APC UPS BackUPS Pro > (BX1500M) unit? I have an opportunity to pick up one for virtually nothing > if I want it. I am just not sure if it will work with FreeBSD. > > -- > Carmel > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 3 20:27:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A039FFF5738 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 20:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@theory14.net) Received: from bacon.theory14.net (bacon.theory14.net [45.55.200.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B31C75659 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 20:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@theory14.net) Received: from remote.theory14.net (remote.theory14.net [173.79.136.84]) by bacon.theory14.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 586C1125E88 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:27:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anubis.int.theory14.net (anubis.int.theory14.net [192.168.10.50]) by remote.theory14.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2771B9FE1 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:27:19 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=theory14.net; s=mail; t=1536006439; bh=XU3R7sdbwU/b13vWY0j4NtWnqYiHRpG+ZeXPvVsQxfw=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:References:To; b=e0FRM2bj4DswhkzM02lNVd2qxUHftJnQxeXUyGybGryQGLpPWw3KxwiReuFIwaZTx FXLy1a04UdE+AWEh2r/K6Gh9DC5rrImC01L4VWd7ERfQXveBgT0L2obDHcRXWKmHsO vSCuGDuervCnWg1qK4JsBujBavfvSdlNJ9OFv1gI= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: APC UPS BackUPS Pro (BX1500M) From: Chris Gordon In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:27:18 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2B6C6535-A743-44C3-ABF7-2F000C9B6049@theory14.net> References: To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 20:27:25 -0000 I have an RS1500 and several RS700G models. I use apcupsd and the USB = data cable that comes with them. They work perfectly fine with FreeBSD. = You=E2=80=99ll most likely need/want a new battery. Look around for = local shops that sell batteries -- they may be cheaper than what you = find online and/or from APC directly. The batteries are =E2=80=9Cstandard= =E2=80=9D types and there are a couple of factories in the world that = make them for everyone. Chris > On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Carmel NY wrote: >=20 > I was wondering if anyone has any experience with an APC UPS BackUPS = Pro (BX1500M) unit? I have an opportunity to pick up one for virtually = nothing if I want it. I am just not sure if it will work with FreeBSD. >=20 > --=20 > Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 3 20:44:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BA4FF5FDE for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 20:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@theory14.net) Received: from bacon.theory14.net (bacon.theory14.net [45.55.200.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185297602B for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 20:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@theory14.net) Received: from remote.theory14.net (remote.theory14.net [173.79.136.84]) by bacon.theory14.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 60FEC125E88; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anubis.int.theory14.net (anubis.int.theory14.net [192.168.10.50]) by remote.theory14.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3869C9FFC; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:44:14 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=theory14.net; s=mail; t=1536007454; bh=VKYcibP8cCK9Z/1PjaL15IZTleCo6JIn9K+hiSpYVHY=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=kxMDYVC7GaC7vkDoiewJo6ypfblxdOZrAJQcMLm5LdE0Rltgn2ZkFvH2Exb1td/21 dtGm5/D3G1RhOb5FaBa/7Jr38jUusKrCM/xLAzAy1GDyoOZjeFkP5yXyM5o2YlbZd4 muoHKb3CmoYYxl4Tc8sODsV03CCaWj6XBL1kJEJE= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts From: Chris Gordon In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:44:13 -0400 Cc: "James B. Byrne" , freebsd-questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7CB447CE-B9D5-4E4C-8E10-A431FC8C779E@theory14.net> References: <2d9ca6fc33b9aa430233bc0862b65453.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> To: William Dudley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 20:44:15 -0000 The values in the SigningTable do this mapping. The opendkim.comf man = page talks about this, but it can be really confusing until you see it = all pieced together. First, you can use the same key to sing all mail = from your domain, so you don=E2=80=99t have to create a different key = for each host. =20 Here=E2=80=99s what I have (edited for your domain) and assuming you = want to use the same key for everything in casano.com: - In /usr/local/etc/mail/opendkim.conf, I have the following settings, = among others -- mostly defaults: SigningTable refile:/usr/local/etc/mail/signing_table KeyTable file:/usr/local/etc/mail/key_table - /usr/local/etc/mail/signing_table should have: *@casano.com mail._domainkey.casano.com - Then in /usr/local/etc/mail/key_table, you have: mail._domainkey.casano.com casano.com:mail:/path/to/the/keyfile The SigningTable matches the domain to value on the right hand side. = Then looks up that value in the KeyTable to get the path to the key to = use to sign. There may be other ways to do this (I actually sign a = couple of domains with different keys, so I have more lines in my to = table files) and it=E2=80=99s been a while since I set it up, so I=E2=80=99= m a bit rusty and may have something a bit off. Hope that helps. Chris > On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:34 PM, William Dudley wrote: >=20 > I have an SPF record. >=20 > That is not the problem. >=20 > The problem is that the server has three names: >=20 > casano.com > mail.casano.com > dudley.casano.com >=20 > and I cannot figure out how opendkim chooses which key > to use to sign emails. Does it look at Message-Id? Does it look > at Reply-to: (unlikely) ? Whatever field it uses, changes depending > on if I use Thunderbird, Mail (mailx), or the mailman listserve to = send > the email. >=20 > Thanks, > Bill Dudley >=20 >=20 > This email is free of malware because I run Linux. >=20 > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 3:03 PM, James B. Byrne > wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> On Sun, September 2, 2018 19:06, William Dudley wrote: >>> I'm trying to make DKIM work on my FreeBSD 10.3, stock sendmail >>> system. >>> Since I don't know if the problem is sendmail or opendkim or DNS or >>> what, I'm asking here. >>>=20 >>=20 >> You need a sender policy framework specification in your dns for the >> domains you wish secured. You do not put the keys in this, just the >> policy version, the authorised hosts, and the disposal option. >>=20 >> Ours is: >>=20 >> harte-lyne.ca. 172800 IN TXT >> "v=3Dspf1 ip4:209.47.176.16/26 ip4:216.185.71.0/26 >> ip4:216.185.71.128/26 -all" >>=20 >> The ~all at the end is called a soft fail. It means that recipients >> may accept mail from another server, but that the sender should be >> viewed with suspicion. If you change the disposal option to -all you >> are directing the recipient to reject mail from any server other than >> these. The soft fail approach is safer and recommended. >>=20 >> If you employ dkim without a dns entry for your sender policy >> framework, or with invalid SPF or multiple SPF dns records, then the >> correct behaviour is to reject all mail from the sender since the >> policy cannot be determined. >>=20 >> -- >> *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** >> Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail >> Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail >>=20 >> James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca >> Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca >> 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 >> Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 >> Canada L8E 3C3 >>=20 >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 3 20:46:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46284FF60B9 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 20:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E955B7610C for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 20:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=Q4GQ2M+a c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=JBFolyDoGHsA:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=LRHczrS1eO9EI-oh3gQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Authentication-Results: smtp03.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp03.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp03.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=roberthuff; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received-SPF: softfail (smtp03.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: transitional domain rcn.com does not designate 209.6.230.48 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:52193] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id BE/AB-16999-AF89D8B5; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 16:26:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23437.39159.976137.95535@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:26:31 -0400 From: Robert Huff To: FreeBSD Subject: APC UPS BackUPS Pro (BX1500M) In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 20:46:41 -0000 Carmel NY writes: > I was wondering if anyone has any experience with an APC UPS > BackUPS Pro (BX1500M) unit? I have an opportunity to pick up one > for virtually nothing if I want it. I am just not sure if it will > work with FreeBSD. I don't have that model; I do have the BackUPS RS 1200/1500. Work fine with systuils/apcupsd. Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 3 21:04:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CFDFF694A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4E7776B54 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.93.226]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue102 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MgfYN-1gI9YF0xtP-00O1ln; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 22:39:36 +0200 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 22:39:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Simone N Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Sysinstall on Laptop (Dell Inspiron 7537) Message-Id: <20180903223936.007d6bd9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Xhvdl25xnzFg9fyA/HK1f0AgGoVry48MYAzVX8aF6gqNuH+XQpG jQgV4RLy8zvzW1ST6O+OFv5XTRsroyBsYN3VOD8HZAusq1czKBiBbqdXU01umfjUyg95vLH xqshqhZEOxQnTrniFAUjKpPnCQYKpjJOs348IBsdFUtN+ea0DsHsvb/6MTeeavxyrVdvkTy K8P25AeK6C5T1tw2Yv78Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:8iycYXI/I2s=:L6FID6DnJcJPdoFTRwAksG IVFepk7i6U9DtH1ZVmttS3hEIKYOwgUaKzezh35ATqp0GYi3q4UOEjmgZGzGIzsPUVHdJu9pv FJuilj7ihH5jJP2+ugpeiEeRhncQhz3Jl/ButR9mhERVDT1v+eRoS5SHORYkSUODx3+uD0dIu U7CaWh1TAX0H4PeGniT+nLWokR4oKPxR4Sd7L7uyhs8eq8Ydr50IEL7O5rhOby+JNGOZYtOzW Fv2CTJ8LgMUuQYWVk+oxCj/9bcrEToJGLsYDVx8E9uehuEB3buJ9tc657hFZDupWz0HvgzCax P7w4L04N4PKWz4XxIQBuOkTpUg3+RdNJ24XQn3QUMs2gKNUj54weQidbUUk2OflruJgPotNcs aZXJywIAcx389jmnG4jG2nBNBfYR4hGAXuP1bJX6V/oUYxSOekNApFUY4gJutO43CHhu34tU1 ah3GFXjkP2FYBFz8Bkl3ZzBVEe1Yv/YmK4anUkJP4ehqxFAe/cqQ31Ygsuif3R0C8dlJg7niv 6bYTl8bY0oLDFG7DUWVYix3iDsHxD100RKF6lnvTyA/UFSuDM66dSXwtaxTO9VMOw93wuG7Cz sttECwLQGm2kXTYYyfsuM5iU2N/aKlM4z16wY3BRgu5S2bXvdUuvbbSIkMNlWisxkNQnzbErH NXt2nn8uJiMVjMdrSNqw4nd43Vc5Q20Kbbu3IJJLYUqtIaQB6Sx8nY2VHR4ml7FnR320dA1h0 GCW0NXlvjk6s6uOy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 21:04:28 -0000 On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 18:45:33 +0000, Simone N wrote: > i can't install FreeBSD on a Laptop without floppy and CD support. This seems to be pretty normal for today's laptops - floppy drives have gone decades ago, and optical media also isn't provided generally. :-) > If i make the boot with an external CD drive,=A0 after booting the kernel= ,=20 > it semms some conflict with usb port >=20 > It give me the messages: >=20 > "uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished" >=20 > uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished >=20 > uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished >=20 > continuosly [...] Yes, this indicates a problem with USB, but it can be from the laptop as well as from the optical drive. Can you try a different drive, as well as a different USB port? > [...] also after did the installation in the OS environment. This is the only piece of text I don't understand, sorry. :-) > Is=20 > there a way to install the OS on my Laptop ? There are basically two ways: 1. Download the USB image and write it to a USB stick. Boot from that USB stick - the laptop will have a boot sequence configured in the CMOS setup, so check if it will try to boot from USB, or use the boot media menu (usually PF12) to select USB when the system starts. 2. Remove the hard disk from the system and use a USB<->disk adapter to install FreeBSD to the disk, then put it back into the laptop and have it boot. Perform all further configurations with that installed OS. I'd suggest you try the 1st way first - it's also a way to verify your USB connection on the laptop is working properly. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 21:23:15 -0000 Chris, I'm going to hop right on this and will report back with my success or failure. Thanks, Bill This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Chris Gordon wrote: > The values in the SigningTable do this mapping. The opendkim.comf man pag= e > talks about this, but it can be really confusing until you see it all > pieced together. First, you can use the same key to sing all mail from > your domain, so you don=E2=80=99t have to create a different key for each= host. > > Here=E2=80=99s what I have (edited for your domain) and assuming you want= to use > the same key for everything in casano.com: > > - In /usr/local/etc/mail/opendkim.conf, I have the following settings, > among others -- mostly defaults: > SigningTable refile:/usr/local/etc/mail/signing_table > KeyTable file:/usr/local/etc/mail/key_table > > - /usr/local/etc/mail/signing_table should have: > > *@casano.com mail._domainkey.casano.com > > - Then in /usr/local/etc/mail/key_table, you have: > > mail._domainkey.casano.com casano.com:mail:/path/to/the/keyfile > > > The SigningTable matches the domain to value on the right hand side. The= n > looks up that value in the KeyTable to get the path to the key to use to > sign. There may be other ways to do this (I actually sign a couple of > domains with different keys, so I have more lines in my to table files) a= nd > it=E2=80=99s been a while since I set it up, so I=E2=80=99m a bit rusty a= nd may have > something a bit off. > > Hope that helps. > > Chris > > > > On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:34 PM, William Dudley wrote: > > > > I have an SPF record. > > > > That is not the problem. > > > > The problem is that the server has three names: > > > > casano.com > > mail.casano.com > > dudley.casano.com > > > > and I cannot figure out how opendkim chooses which key > > to use to sign emails. Does it look at Message-Id? Does it look > > at Reply-to: (unlikely) ? Whatever field it uses, changes depending > > on if I use Thunderbird, Mail (mailx), or the mailman listserve to send > > the email. > > > > Thanks, > > Bill Dudley > > > > > > This email is free of malware because I run Linux. > > > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 3:03 PM, James B. Byrne > > wrote: > > > >> > >> On Sun, September 2, 2018 19:06, William Dudley wrote: > >>> I'm trying to make DKIM work on my FreeBSD 10.3, stock sendmail > >>> system. > >>> Since I don't know if the problem is sendmail or opendkim or DNS or > >>> what, I'm asking here. > >>> > >> > >> You need a sender policy framework specification in your dns for the > >> domains you wish secured. You do not put the keys in this, just the > >> policy version, the authorised hosts, and the disposal option. > >> > >> Ours is: > >> > >> harte-lyne.ca. 172800 IN TXT > >> "v=3Dspf1 ip4:209.47.176.16/26 ip4:216.185.71.0/26 > >> ip4:216.185.71.128/26 -all" > >> > >> The ~all at the end is called a soft fail. It means that recipients > >> may accept mail from another server, but that the sender should be > >> viewed with suspicion. If you change the disposal option to -all you > >> are directing the recipient to reject mail from any server other than > >> these. The soft fail approach is safer and recommended. > >> > >> If you employ dkim without a dns entry for your sender policy > >> framework, or with invalid SPF or multiple SPF dns records, then the > >> correct behaviour is to reject all mail from the sender since the > >> policy cannot be determined. > >> > >> -- > >> *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** > >> Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail > >> Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail > >> > >> James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca > >> Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca > >> 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 > >> Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 > >> Canada L8E 3C3 > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 3 21:32:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A232FF75C1 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail-40132.protonmail.ch (mail-40132.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCCF1778D9 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 21:31:43 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: Sysinstall on Laptop (Dell Inspiron 7537) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20180903223936.007d6bd9.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20180903223936.007d6bd9.freebsd@edvax.de> Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.protonmail.ch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 21:32:00 -0000 > > [...] also after did the installation in the OS environment. > > This is the only piece of text I don't understand, sorry. :-) This piece of text is one of the reasons why I think Simone is Italian: it seems an attempt to translate the Italian expression "anche dopo aver fatto l'installazione nell'ambiente del sistema operativo", that I would translate "even after the installation in the OS environment is done". I do not really understand what he calls "OS environment" however: maybe he refers to sysinstall (I mean the windows on the blue background: I think they are sysinstall's interface, sorry if I am wrong). Lorenzo Salvadore. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 3 22:05:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0017FF7E10 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 22:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3546878534 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 22:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.93.226]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue102 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MA5Q9-1g3FYj0k1p-00BJ2d; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 00:05:24 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 00:05:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Lorenzo Salvadore Cc: Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Sysinstall on Laptop (Dell Inspiron 7537) Message-Id: <20180904000523.3bdf382b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20180903223936.007d6bd9.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:eqGiQNU/I8xI+ta29qoGWfGzsFMascIhd/XkUZlF6HrROKqqRoM /B6Qpo9oqKrGmT5lvbs3F8J9Dml90O4oVJqzsxMDc9r23wlJ6vMnUicAMw4oWfpgmK+gsEg JJLKBOG75LukQ0f9WMNifED2aLW5gCR/2LCNbDJMuJgKjIb12J9+FQKMLbY/tlRqFa6dYrf Fst75cHBQwJmqGpwZiSIg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pxEgXVD00Fw=:AWeRXpsw3PQfOLUG0yVo/m ZLKe52ipeP0GLdSVI6/X6hiDJ8ZZ2Cg+CpVqGA3FLIfNo20/3vYdMI2O2uyOqaBobopLjkwIs AkviIJcDUWvS/bZRFWOxs24ihEkJUT4t+WwQbI64xngWJ9o6odLQC0kgicSSVHnFlg/zrVXcq 3EnyxVKqbw68PQMIZRWhflfbcHreKlQNAF+UlLGa5+q0PgibmJs0mSAVEG1Upj6OWTP+WYnhP AGuiIDIi7dEdk8TqVfRUB00H+a7XOrXRyc3PWRhxYwyJBzBa2HAVi0ASgJ0Z6sMJHIoikR0+p MJsWSU/fjyCPRaI4ZLxJOqrAbkNJUgfKQcgLdfEPvKdZcVGydQ93p20XibdRVlm2ciKAHFmCa KEtHTGZnQexr/q+kj2xeRwHFS+SDkuab438RYxGAKEJ5bWcz7TGHCJfCTKq5Sulri4qHA2rkf JSBLFnY7GD6S0LrfxTymENRbEcaiHQ3DcDHjPFqnvTzY47sBS/6vDSpJsDWRSKfNhkCzyvoSW 6Gn81agmUZSMwt8b1mSU5A7LZb1j4/TWsYgcultVBzRIxQDqB0EqY7SoGec+pWgh5gB6/B+6P 5/WptCGRjQcNKq11/EXl7PFf9hcr0hqmkkvDDzgZbm+4J0GGSLAMxDjS3x+0eeD46BD6faske hL95DfskSPXxGVAQUhQSlHF0D8mbADYibA5yvpuUni7MDl5NsjlJ2xuRdnjvByy8u1Gb2XNJw F+PgoRFtB1x9a1GU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 22:05:29 -0000 On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 21:31:43 +0000, Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > [...] also after did the installation in the OS environment. > > > > This is the only piece of text I don't understand, sorry. :-) > > This piece of text is one of the reasons why I think Simone is > Italian: it seems an attempt to translate the Italian expression > "anche dopo aver fatto l'installazione nell'ambiente del sistema > operativo", that I would translate "even after the installation in the > OS environment is done". Thanks for the translation! This would imply the OS installation has taken place, while the subject and general tone of the question suggests that he is struggling to actually _install_ the OS. But maybe it refers to the state of the OS startup? Or maybe even while the installer is running? I could imagine that FreeBSD retries optical media access, and eventually succeeds, but then additional errors keep popping up, like if you would use defective optical media... > I do not really understand what he calls "OS environment" however: > maybe he refers to sysinstall (I mean the windows on the blue > background: I think they are sysinstall's interface, sorry > if I am wrong). The term "sysinstall" usually refers to the FreeBSD installer in _older_ FreeBSD versions. From FreeBSD 9, the "bsdinstall" program has taken its place, and the sysinstall program is no longer in use. But I can understand using the word "sysinstall" as short for "system installation" as a generic term for the whole installation process (consisting of OS boot, installer run, performing the installation tasks, and finally starting the installed system). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 01:00:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298F3FFB7AA for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 01:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankfenderbender@council124.org) Received: from vps349.pairvps.com (vps349.pairvps.com [IPv6:2607:f440::d85c:e745]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C816B7D63C for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 01:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankfenderbender@council124.org) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (unknown [104.220.39.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vps349.pairvps.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B323A6AC4; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: APC UPS BackUPS Pro (BX1500M) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: C Gray In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 18:00:34 -0700 Reply-To: C Gray Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9B877978-297C-499C-86CE-99B68B570245@council124.org> References: To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 01:00:43 -0000 My experience says "yes" but with the following qualification: the = power-source goes to the APC input, and the computer (or other devices) = plug into an APC output. The APC will supply power with its battery no = matter what the device or OS, however, the sum of "drive"-current = determines the rate of battery dissipation. I chose the 1500-watt model, = APC Pro-1550-S. The lameness comes when the software may or may not auto-save, because = that entails the OS. I use my APC as an intermediary between a solar-panel powered battery = which is used for the refrigerator, full-house water purfcation system, = and my technology room's separate circuit outlets. I plugged in my main = WAN computer, my ham radio, my Dell server, and a few USB hubs used for = distributing disk-space specific-topic hard-drives and their BU = hard-drives. If the battery gets fully drained at night, then the APC kicks in, and = alarms me so I can turn off processes and systems gently. If you have the right OS (and I think they narrowly only support = Windows, then the APC will suffice for the period for which it is built, = but no longer. You will need to complete the shutdown process yourself. My answer is a bit general, but then so are quality assurance and specs = these days.... best and good luck, chrisg frankfenderbender@council124.org On 03-September-2018, at 00:40 PM, Carmel NY wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has any experience with an APC UPS BackUPS = Pro (BX1500M) unit? I have an opportunity to pick up one for virtually = nothing if I want it. I am just not sure if it will work with FreeBSD. >=20 > --=20 > Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 01:20:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9ADFFCD84 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 01:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@theory14.net) Received: from bacon.theory14.net (bacon.theory14.net [45.55.200.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C716C7E9BF for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 01:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@theory14.net) Received: from remote.theory14.net (remote.theory14.net [173.79.136.84]) by bacon.theory14.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1871125E88; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anubis.int.theory14.net (anubis.int.theory14.net [192.168.10.50]) by remote.theory14.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2EDF10052; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:19:57 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=theory14.net; s=mail; t=1536023997; bh=AsNbqi8r1g3ZPanFRycapazrsvHFfB2p5kzYdlO/0u4=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=dfvms+uh/5nm7GNncMiph/lmGSnbbgeFrhS4CZdVl/J7OCRSeT35zIVVjfHFND2CT yxmnM5JzfOpWWiNcRC2YnBR2bN0BmlywofMMxkMea/Pw2wn+mlS7SWHjvATvcqvAmU MmU+8Hzsv5sin5NQqN5jYJz277gP4DVubowtRPG4= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: APC UPS BackUPS Pro (BX1500M) From: Chris Gordon In-Reply-To: <9B877978-297C-499C-86CE-99B68B570245@council124.org> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:19:57 -0400 Cc: FreeBSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <92A53B5A-BEC2-4A8C-828F-0AD180E30BD0@theory14.net> References: <9B877978-297C-499C-86CE-99B68B570245@council124.org> To: C Gray X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 01:20:03 -0000 I=E2=80=99m using apcupsd (installed via pkg) and have it set to = gracefully shutdown my machines when the battery is nearly drained. A = couple of weekends ago, we had the power go out at night and my machines = shut themselves off gracefully as expected. Of course, I had to bring = them back up manually when I got up, but I would prefer this than having = them go down hard on a power outage. Your situation may vary as to what you consider the appropriate response = and recovery process for your machines, but I=E2=80=99ve had apcupsd do = what I told it and automate the low battery shutdown. Chris > On Sep 3, 2018, at 9:00 PM, C Gray = wrote: >=20 > My experience says "yes" but with the following qualification: the = power-source goes to the APC input, and the computer (or other devices) = plug into an APC output. The APC will supply power with its battery no = matter what the device or OS, however, the sum of "drive"-current = determines the rate of battery dissipation. I chose the 1500-watt model, = APC Pro-1550-S. >=20 > The lameness comes when the software may or may not auto-save, because = that entails the OS. >=20 > I use my APC as an intermediary between a solar-panel powered battery = which is used for the refrigerator, full-house water purfcation system, = and my technology room's separate circuit outlets. I plugged in my main = WAN computer, my ham radio, my Dell server, and a few USB hubs used for = distributing disk-space specific-topic hard-drives and their BU = hard-drives. >=20 > If the battery gets fully drained at night, then the APC kicks in, and = alarms me so I can turn off processes and systems gently. > If you have the right OS (and I think they narrowly only support = Windows, then the APC will suffice for the period for which it is built, = but no longer. You will need to complete the shutdown process yourself. >=20 > My answer is a bit general, but then so are quality assurance and = specs these days.... >=20 > best and good luck, > chrisg > frankfenderbender@council124.org >=20 > On 03-September-2018, at 00:40 PM, Carmel NY wrote: >=20 >> I was wondering if anyone has any experience with an APC UPS BackUPS = Pro (BX1500M) unit? I have an opportunity to pick up one for virtually = nothing if I want it. I am just not sure if it will work with FreeBSD. >>=20 >> --=20 >> Carmel >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 02:33:49 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0231FD4139 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 02:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C9F81EAD for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 02:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 8027CCB8D40; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:33:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 108.68.162.197 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:33:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <59593.108.68.162.197.1536028420.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <92A53B5A-BEC2-4A8C-828F-0AD180E30BD0@theory14.net> References: <9B877978-297C-499C-86CE-99B68B570245@council124.org> <92A53B5A-BEC2-4A8C-828F-0AD180E30BD0@theory14.net> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:33:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: APC UPS BackUPS Pro (BX1500M) From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Chris Gordon" Cc: "C Gray" , "FreeBSD" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 02:33:49 -0000 On Mon, September 3, 2018 8:19 pm, Chris Gordon wrote: > I’m using apcupsd (installed via pkg) and have it set to gracefully > shutdown my machines when the battery is nearly drained. A couple of > weekends ago, we had the power go out at night and my machines shut > themselves off gracefully as expected. Of course, I had to bring them > back up manually when I got up, but I would prefer this than having them > go down hard on a power outage. To solve this last trouble I configure since forever in BIOS power ON after AC power is returned. Usually if UPS has drained battery, after power returns, it powers itself ON, provides power to outputs and starts charging battery. We had this situation once, outage longer that UPS's on battery run, and all came back on as expected. That said, if you have several groups of machines, you may want to have UPS for most important group "overspec'ed", say 3 kVA UPS for merely 500 VA consumer. The last will increase on battery run by a factor of 6 at least, in fact even larger, as rechargeable batteries give somewhat more under less stressful discharge. We used APC UPSes with apcupsd, and the last can work in master mode (getting data about battery from UPS) and in slave mode, getting signal for shutdown from master daemon on different machine. This way you deal with multiple machines behind one UPS. I hope this helps. Valeri > > Your situation may vary as to what you consider the appropriate response > and recovery process for your machines, but I’ve had apcupsd do what I > told it and automate the low battery shutdown. > > Chris > > >> On Sep 3, 2018, at 9:00 PM, C Gray >> wrote: >> >> My experience says "yes" but with the following qualification: the >> power-source goes to the APC input, and the computer (or other devices) >> plug into an APC output. The APC will supply power with its battery no >> matter what the device or OS, however, the sum of "drive"-current >> determines the rate of battery dissipation. I chose the 1500-watt model, >> APC Pro-1550-S. >> >> The lameness comes when the software may or may not auto-save, because >> that entails the OS. >> >> I use my APC as an intermediary between a solar-panel powered battery >> which is used for the refrigerator, full-house water purfcation system, >> and my technology room's separate circuit outlets. I plugged in my main >> WAN computer, my ham radio, my Dell server, and a few USB hubs used for >> distributing disk-space specific-topic hard-drives and their BU >> hard-drives. >> >> If the battery gets fully drained at night, then the APC kicks in, and >> alarms me so I can turn off processes and systems gently. >> If you have the right OS (and I think they narrowly only support >> Windows, then the APC will suffice for the period for which it is built, >> but no longer. You will need to complete the shutdown process yourself. >> >> My answer is a bit general, but then so are quality assurance and specs >> these days.... >> >> best and good luck, >> chrisg >> frankfenderbender@council124.org >> >> On 03-September-2018, at 00:40 PM, Carmel NY wrote: >> >>> I was wondering if anyone has any experience with an APC UPS BackUPS >>> Pro (BX1500M) unit? I have an opportunity to pick up one for virtually >>> nothing if I want it. I am just not sure if it will work with FreeBSD. >>> >>> -- >>> Carmel >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 03:01:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CC3FD562C for ; 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Tue, 4 Sep 2018 04:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta02.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E33A286181 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 04:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([74.132.25.214]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id x38EfIa9fizpFx38HfFIES; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 04:40:07 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: FreeBSD TWC Subject: Multi-boot Message-ID: <42193ff6-7447-e917-3ca8-5840491918e5@twc.com> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 00:40:02 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfDik7FXs/5ZKMv9hTaggoPZ4aVAUfqURxm1JGpu2JvchwhJq2iVL0JpHvzPw/raebjnzPSVTJbMAdr5TbUmADyEK47s80DDBxn5SYb1A1uarurSOM03F nrDLJiQbn/5MKEdpMCOrXFd6kdG/qKQWLiXjhlHRjJcy1Ipn03F1LwBYN5VErk34UYbxndz4/BqxYQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 04:42:46 -0000 I have previous FreeBSD experience, but have been inactive for a few years. I used to partition disks with an MBR, and install multiple OSes and FreeBSD had a boot manager (now known as boot0) that allowed me to select which OS to boot. I now have a new machine that uses UEFI and I can't figure out how to mimic the multi-boot menu. It appears to me that I can no longer use boot0 because I'm using amd64, not i386. I want to use EFI, GPT, and select OSes from a menu.  The efibootmgr man page appears to be incorrect.  I tried the example and it caused a syntax error.  There is no -d option (the command said -d ada0) I was hoping to add another EFI variable and hoped it would allow me to select which partition to boot. I'm using FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 06:41:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D8CFE3F0F for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50BDF89D76 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w846enLW024224 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 08:40:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: APC UPS BackUPS Pro (BX1500M) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <744b68dd-6cc7-08b7-0bd2-42d952cc02eb@netfence.it> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 08:40:49 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 06:41:01 -0000 On 9/3/18 9:40 PM, Carmel NY wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has any experience with an APC UPS BackUPS Pro (BX1500M) unit? Not really, but I've been using several other models from the same maker and they all work fine with sysutils/apcupsd. Failing that (which I think it's unlikely), sysutils/nut might come into rescue (in fact I'm also using this with some APC units, but not because apcupsd wouldn't work). bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 14:00:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB3FFEFDEF for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 14:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [198.71.6.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A6A708CE for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 14:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from sas1.nber.org (sas1.nber.org [198.71.6.89]) by mail2.nber.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w84DYHbr095908 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:34:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:34:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Valeri Galtsev cc: Chris Gordon , C Gray , FreeBSD Subject: Re: APC UPS BackUPS Pro (BX1500M) In-Reply-To: <59593.108.68.162.197.1536028420.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: References: <9B877978-297C-499C-86CE-99B68B570245@council124.org> <92A53B5A-BEC2-4A8C-828F-0AD180E30BD0@theory14.net> <59593.108.68.162.197.1536028420.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LRH 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not scanned, disabled by settings X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: not scanned X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2018/08/31 11:53:39 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.721, bases: 2018/09/04 08:17:00 #8791871 X-KLMS-AntiVirus-Status: Clean, skipped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 14:00:07 -0000 On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > To solve this last trouble I configure since forever in BIOS power ON > after AC power is returned. Usually if UPS has drained battery, after > power returns, it powers itself ON, provides power to outputs and starts > charging battery. We had this situation once, outage longer that UPS's on What happens if power returns during the shutdown sequence? The power never goes off, therefore never turns on, and the computer remains off. Is there a solution other than remote control? Daniel Feenberg NBER From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 14:11:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F7DFF0316 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 14:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14E0E71037 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 14:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC0710E80; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:11:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dz9ziDrcIOPG; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E89FC10E75; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:10:55 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <2d9ca6fc33b9aa430233bc0862b65453.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:10:55 -0400 Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts From: "James B. Byrne" To: "William Dudley" Cc: "freebsd-questions" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 14:11:10 -0000 On Mon, September 3, 2018 15:34, William Dudley wrote: > I have an SPF record. > > That is not the problem. I beg to differ. It may not be your ONLY problem but it is a problem. [byrnejb_hll@vhost04 ~]$ drill casamo.com TXT ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 53899 ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 4 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;; casamo.com. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: casamo.com. 3600 IN TXT "google-site-verification=ljFtgzq9av4Oxtx_FepTKvL7E7xMzlen1UnDKBBWO8g" ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: casamo.com. 172800 IN NS ns63.domaincontrol.com. casamo.com. 172800 IN NS ns64.domaincontrol.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns63.domaincontrol.com. 172800 IN A 216.69.185.42 ns63.domaincontrol.com. 172800 IN AAAA 2607:f208:206::2a ns64.domaincontrol.com. 172800 IN A 173.201.69.42 ns64.domaincontrol.com. 172800 IN AAAA 2603:5:2254::2a ;; Query time: 59 msec ;; SERVER: 216.185.71.33 ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 4 09:50:52 2018 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 249 [byrnejb_hll@vhost04 ~]$ drill mail.casamo.com TXT ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NXDOMAIN, id: 50174 ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;; mail.casamo.com. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: casamo.com. 600 IN SOA ns63.domaincontrol.com. dns.jomax.net. 2018021000 28800 7200 604800 600 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ;; Query time: 58 msec ;; SERVER: 216.185.71.34 ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 4 09:51:15 2018 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 101 [byrnejb_hll@vhost04 ~]$ drill dudley.casamo.com TXT ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NXDOMAIN, id: 56419 ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;; dudley.casamo.com. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: casamo.com. 600 IN SOA ns63.domaincontrol.com. dns.jomax.net. 2018021000 28800 7200 604800 600 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ;; Query time: 17 msec ;; SERVER: 216.185.71.33 ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 4 09:51:32 2018 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 103 Whatever you believe to be the case your DNS TXT RR with the spf version and list of authorised senders is not published and this lack is likely contributing to, if not the entire cause of, your difficulty. You do not have any published DNS SPF RRs either, but as that particular RR is deprecated you should not have such in any case. > and I cannot figure out how opendkim chooses which key > to use to sign emails. Does it look at Message-Id? Does it look > at Reply-to: (unlikely) ? Whatever field it uses, changes depending > on if I use Thunderbird, Mail (mailx), or the mailman listserve to > send the email. > Read man 5 opendkim.conf re signing table. For example: cat /usr/local/etc/mail/opendkim/SigningTable # OPENDKIM SIGNING TABLE # This table controls how to apply one or more signatures to # outgoing messages based on the address found in the # From: header field. In simple terms, this tells OpenDKIM "how" # to apply your keys. # To use this file, uncomment the SigningTable option in # /etc/opendkim.conf, then uncomment one of the usage examples # below and replace example.com with your domain name, then # restart OpenDKIM. # WILDCARD EXAMPLE # Enables signing for any address on the listed domain(s), but # will work only if "refile:/etc/opendkim/SigningTable" is included # in /etc/opendkim.conf. # Create additional lines for additional domains. #*@example.com default._domainkey.example.com # NON-WILDCARD EXAMPLE # If "file:" (instead of "refile:") is specified in /etc/opendkim.conf, # then wildcards will not work. Instead, full user@host is checked # first, then simply host, then user@.domain (with all superdomains # checked in sequence, so "foo.example.com" would first check # "user@foo.example.com", then "user@.example.com", then "user@.com"), # then .domain, then user@*, and finally *. # See the opendkim.conf(5) man page under "SigningTable" for more # details. #From address left hand side key value in KeyTable *@harte-lyne.ca dkim_hll You need to CAREFULLY consider each option in opendkim.conf and decide how it fits into your SPF and DMARC scheme. You must also set up the support files required for each option that you enable. And you must have suitable DNS RRs published. > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 3:03 PM, James B. Byrne > wrote: > >> >> On Sun, September 2, 2018 19:06, William Dudley wrote: >> > I'm trying to make DKIM work on my FreeBSD 10.3, stock sendmail >> > system. >> > Since I don't know if the problem is sendmail or opendkim or DNS >> or >> > what, I'm asking here. >> > >> >> You need a sender policy framework specification in your dns for the >> domains you wish secured. You do not put the keys in this, just the >> policy version, the authorised hosts, and the disposal option. >> >> Ours is: >> >> harte-lyne.ca. 172800 IN TXT >> "v=spf1 ip4:209.47.176.16/26 ip4:216.185.71.0/26 >> ip4:216.185.71.128/26 -all" >> >> The ~all at the end is called a soft fail. It means that recipients >> may accept mail from another server, but that the sender should be >> viewed with suspicion. If you change the disposal option to -all you >> are directing the recipient to reject mail from any server other >> than >> these. The soft fail approach is safer and recommended. >> >> If you employ dkim without a dns entry for your sender policy >> framework, or with invalid SPF or multiple SPF dns records, then the >> correct behaviour is to reject all mail from the sender since the >> policy cannot be determined. >> -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 14:28:53 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A30FF0DDD for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 14:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb34.google.com (mail-yb1-xb34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C73C271D1E for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 14:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb1-xb34.google.com with SMTP id m123-v6so1361492ybm.0 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 07:28:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=lf9wA/WN4ZY81nkJF6fo7yxbej74/tNkF5S7WggQHJg=; b=U83YIwy845uSBJZFxzsUum9dBpXd+gIRt0TrYPhUG9GOX5fl+M+YCUNsnKN4c/2D8Y /Oj68GizeDcwZIf9zlk7U36G0kpTljGbcohS0wkS7HIN3ETIatYhO6OQ1snM3d+8Y8DZ Npph1gHDja85AizO4AbSGugSQcQ62gmNau2Sxc2ycnIESu6cuNFcjDeq4aWBIVWDbs+w TVcCMLuG9JgDzqWU7IQKItCyVPeNgjcKxFbPk36wwrr+ngh+o2t8SKEFYGPXR1vf5AE7 +hJt/3OMGU7mWLhpU+g6atxW/tr0h+HIMylJOcGANBbafqxrWscQeKBS9sWz2pLwPMaw 45/w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lf9wA/WN4ZY81nkJF6fo7yxbej74/tNkF5S7WggQHJg=; b=iesZsFLvaqgn/Qv5Xb1mrkoR2OZ22THkT3eFTaTSqG7oFFSUzsM+H5AE8vdK7/+vPC sWpsgwYfOWnQbcNnMr8fQdT3S8jYCmmYEBeIrFCGUxAg0Rx8dOWjVQxgWoj4+CnPxIsR WSJS57r61D4RknG5xTqKJ2gbWQRm9LvFO7R+Syu6msy4/nWN4ynfW4XfFmEya8Jpvtto JvlVwR3n2oTjKQ/ioU52b6HT/Au3I7iLj+OIOCtlmt+4vSD6qwMlLG/1u4UAk3cgFIGU 17guPvwPrXNwTYr3W3/WFfea9MhLozpJ/uWd8ECvFQcKVC7XomdA9WzGvxYRYfUNtbgT Ue1w== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51ArSXmu30495qf5JzgTHAGsPwFocWiwukcs66ahbytfWddNRbm1 TgBxfHk609LAWkm6JENRrdRLEHZLLy0AN0DRYgw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdapwhYx+kgtVLuLz8nNUuXWxq+YW0cOfHFaztISJkt25boYEasFgcldsSzqiai41Mo9C9rVkSI8IXiy+nasFc8= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:c41:: with SMTP id d1-v6mr18484956ybr.136.1536071331975; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 07:28:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:2682:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 07:28:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2d9ca6fc33b9aa430233bc0862b65453.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: William Dudley Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:28:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts To: "James B. Byrne" Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 14:28:53 -0000 my domain is not "casaMo.com", so all of your research is irrelevant. Thanks, Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:10 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Mon, September 3, 2018 15:34, William Dudley wrote: > > I have an SPF record. > > > > That is not the problem. > > I beg to differ. It may not be your ONLY problem but it is a problem. > > > [byrnejb_hll@vhost04 ~]$ drill casamo.com TXT > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 53899 > ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 4 > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;; casamo.com. IN TXT > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > casamo.com. 3600 IN TXT "google-site-verification= > ljFtgzq9av4Oxtx_FepTKvL7E7xMzlen1UnDKBBWO8g" > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > casamo.com. 172800 IN NS ns63.domaincontrol.com. > casamo.com. 172800 IN NS ns64.domaincontrol.com. > > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: > ns63.domaincontrol.com. 172800 IN A 216.69.185.42 > ns63.domaincontrol.com. 172800 IN AAAA 2607:f208:206::2a > ns64.domaincontrol.com. 172800 IN A 173.201.69.42 > ns64.domaincontrol.com. 172800 IN AAAA 2603:5:2254::2a > > ;; Query time: 59 msec > ;; SERVER: 216.185.71.33 > ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 4 09:50:52 2018 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 249 > [byrnejb_hll@vhost04 ~]$ drill mail.casamo.com TXT > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NXDOMAIN, id: 50174 > ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;; mail.casamo.com. IN TXT > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > casamo.com. 600 IN SOA ns63.domaincontrol.com. > dns.jomax.net. > 2018021000 28800 7200 604800 600 > > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: > > ;; Query time: 58 msec > ;; SERVER: 216.185.71.34 > ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 4 09:51:15 2018 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 101 > [byrnejb_hll@vhost04 ~]$ drill dudley.casamo.com TXT > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NXDOMAIN, id: 56419 > ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;; dudley.casamo.com. IN TXT > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > casamo.com. 600 IN SOA ns63.domaincontrol.com. > dns.jomax.net. > 2018021000 28800 7200 604800 600 > > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: > > ;; Query time: 17 msec > ;; SERVER: 216.185.71.33 > ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 4 09:51:32 2018 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 103 > > Whatever you believe to be the case your DNS TXT RR with the spf > version and list of authorised senders is not published and this lack > is likely contributing to, if not the entire cause of, your > difficulty. You do not have any published DNS SPF RRs either, but as > that particular RR is deprecated you should not have such in any case. > > > and I cannot figure out how opendkim chooses which key > > to use to sign emails. Does it look at Message-Id? Does it look > > at Reply-to: (unlikely) ? Whatever field it uses, changes depending > > on if I use Thunderbird, Mail (mailx), or the mailman listserve to > > send the email. > > > > Read man 5 opendkim.conf re signing table. > > For example: > > cat /usr/local/etc/mail/opendkim/SigningTable > # OPENDKIM SIGNING TABLE > # This table controls how to apply one or more signatures to > # outgoing messages based on the address found in the > # From: header field. In simple terms, this tells OpenDKIM "how" > # to apply your keys. > > # To use this file, uncomment the SigningTable option in > # /etc/opendkim.conf, then uncomment one of the usage examples > # below and replace example.com with your domain name, then > # restart OpenDKIM. > > # WILDCARD EXAMPLE > # Enables signing for any address on the listed domain(s), but > # will work only if "refile:/etc/opendkim/SigningTable" is included > # in /etc/opendkim.conf. > # Create additional lines for additional domains. > > #*@example.com default._domainkey.example.com > > # NON-WILDCARD EXAMPLE > # If "file:" (instead of "refile:") is specified in /etc/opendkim.conf, > # then wildcards will not work. Instead, full user@host is checked > # first, then simply host, then user@.domain (with all superdomains > # checked in sequence, so "foo.example.com" would first check > # "user@foo.example.com", then "user@.example.com", then "user@.com"), > # then .domain, then user@*, and finally *. > # See the opendkim.conf(5) man page under "SigningTable" for more > # details. > > #From address left hand side key value in KeyTable > *@harte-lyne.ca dkim_hll > > You need to CAREFULLY consider each option in opendkim.conf and decide > how it fits into your SPF and DMARC scheme. You must also set up the > support files required for each option that you enable. And you must > have suitable DNS RRs published. > > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 3:03 PM, James B. Byrne > > wrote: > > > >> > >> On Sun, September 2, 2018 19:06, William Dudley wrote: > >> > I'm trying to make DKIM work on my FreeBSD 10.3, stock sendmail > >> > system. > >> > Since I don't know if the problem is sendmail or opendkim or DNS > >> or > >> > what, I'm asking here. > >> > > >> > >> You need a sender policy framework specification in your dns for the > >> domains you wish secured. You do not put the keys in this, just the > >> policy version, the authorised hosts, and the disposal option. > >> > >> Ours is: > >> > >> harte-lyne.ca. 172800 IN TXT > >> "v=spf1 ip4:209.47.176.16/26 ip4:216.185.71.0/26 > >> ip4:216.185.71.128/26 -all" > >> > >> The ~all at the end is called a soft fail. It means that recipients > >> may accept mail from another server, but that the sender should be > >> viewed with suspicion. If you change the disposal option to -all you > >> are directing the recipient to reject mail from any server other > >> than > >> these. The soft fail approach is safer and recommended. > >> > >> If you employ dkim without a dns entry for your sender policy > >> framework, or with invalid SPF or multiple SPF dns records, then the > >> correct behaviour is to reject all mail from the sender since the > >> policy cannot be determined. > >> > > > -- > *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** > Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail > Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail > > James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca > Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca > 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 > Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 > Canada L8E 3C3 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 14:41:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4A5FF1442 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 14:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08570724E6 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 14:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C22310FEC; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:41:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dZf_RutWnBR8; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 972AA10FE1; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:41:32 -0400 Message-ID: <47bf9a4f8499073f6b29bf7b29d82039.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: <2d9ca6fc33b9aa430233bc0862b65453.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:41:32 -0400 Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts From: "James B. Byrne" To: "William Dudley" Cc: "freebsd-questions" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 14:41:36 -0000 On Tue, September 4, 2018 10:28, William Dudley wrote: > my domain is not "casaMo.com", so all of your research is irrelevant. > drill casano.com txt ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: SERVFAIL, id: 39400 ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;; casano.com. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ;; Query time: 2 msec ;; SERVER: 216.185.71.33 ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 4 10:30:40 2018 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 28 If your senders have from addresses like username@casano.com then I believe that this is still a problem, if not the only one. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 14:47:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E483FFF18F3 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 14:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953407289C for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 14:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E453718086; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:47:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: APC UPS BackUPS Pro (BX1500M) To: Daniel Feenberg Cc: Chris Gordon , C Gray , FreeBSD References: <9B877978-297C-499C-86CE-99B68B570245@council124.org> <92A53B5A-BEC2-4A8C-828F-0AD180E30BD0@theory14.net> <59593.108.68.162.197.1536028420.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <69d5da40-b66e-a962-5946-052f87b7897c@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:47:50 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 14:47:57 -0000 On 9/4/18 8:34 AM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> >> To solve this last trouble I configure since forever in BIOS power ON >> after AC power is returned. Usually if UPS has drained battery, after >> power returns, it powers itself ON, provides power to outputs and starts >> charging battery. We had this situation once, outage longer that UPS's on > > What happens if power returns during the shutdown sequence? The power > never goes off, therefore never turns on, and the computer remains off. > Is there a solution other than remote control? You are absolutely right. So, as far as I remember apcupsd will try to abort shutdown, and if the machine didn't go too far in shutdown sequence, all will stay. Someone who read apcupsd more recently that I did, please, correct me if I'm wrong here. Incidentally, if on battery run is 20 min and shutdown starts 2 min before battery drained, the chance of outage to be exactly that long is at least 10 times smaller that outage shorter than that. But, exactly as you said, the machine may get shut down, and stay if outage duration in in that narrow range. Now, if this happens, you deal with the situation from external box. This is the case when you need more important machine that is behind UPS with much longer on battery run time. And if you run something like nagios (or other host/service watch system), that box can send WOL (Wake On LAN) signal some 5 min after it notices that machine is off line. Now you have really robust system. I hope, this helps. Valeri > > Daniel Feenberg > NBER -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 15:32:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FED4FF2B76 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 15:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw1-xc2e.google.com (mail-yw1-xc2e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC7107417A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 15:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw1-xc2e.google.com with SMTP id n207-v6so1406318ywn.9 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 08:32:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Dzj5g9ZUbXXRjWFE8wtjqsrY59oKncmGXUvOUlNOASI=; b=QnCrYONIW8KGj75baWYJKerRS0QGB7d+D1zEY1F782inQtN87LI0DMc2JMImWk9PhW wzeaMuRqjbL5nhhmQSIlb2FL/HScUuG+a/mKddwGLPNOViRP4MLU4uf2K0aKD1IV4+3l ER+U/5cuCVnTv+dBoTaJ9JSOPbZRBr9BYOj/5JBXxgbw5gqXq4FzX/iBVw8eKl98YkaU 3dboj5F0r8O1gekAbw5EckkdUARljSVlvGo7AGmjALY6kekTKHQpN2gqpO5Mbf1JjWiq oUwUBbRzCGuhNf+Z78ijU3UgQ+LQL3UiaBh27F4hU3Bq2N0QfZ5GLjKFC3+wN/QxL+Sn N5Tw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Dzj5g9ZUbXXRjWFE8wtjqsrY59oKncmGXUvOUlNOASI=; b=GYlyJyvsOgHLB+Ks47zBcCReKfFB3CFPnYvuqP7CR4v5rmj4o7CXV9PdWockkS9ynH /orFAEmgGFdfTRHLkQw0SbaeRNS7fXA9Or04UEmK6iNuoMMks1pzqNoLbrbHNnDqRCca UVFrJES0cXlAP+2R/L5vFAFrvEQC+4Y1Va0zFrWK2J5WIuLW8i3NXrVWx1SsryLV7mQx 8sDxnZ3AAM36sfjM6r1xR+9UgrrK5dihoNOnLr5w9JNKTDV/VPaZ3Arb7W8Md8ORSUVB h1O8EJoGJtiwremoMWwDWYu/hSiLZaqw8+QziGWF8c8F9fofVsOZJGkWEADBbA40MK5G 6fPg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51A6qH/7k5Y61WFm2khVd206NMnSHqgymkhugw4Q9Uo1RpHKcnSy K1ZZWVR1gzw48gNaEM/ZjjpjKqRyZBUVZWLzgqjw2fwg X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdboX53aL4F2/mDf7LXA4UEFaEw4A0Z4EB/3KhUcKImtZdaHL38otKdOv9XOsHZrO9ndGqsNpd0JXoRGapL81AA= X-Received: by 2002:a81:530a:: with SMTP id h10-v6mr13481917ywb.411.1536075131072; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 08:32:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:2682:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 08:32:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <47bf9a4f8499073f6b29bf7b29d82039.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <2d9ca6fc33b9aa430233bc0862b65453.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <47bf9a4f8499073f6b29bf7b29d82039.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: William Dudley Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:32:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts To: "James B. Byrne" , Chris Gordon Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 15:32:12 -0000 Zoneminder only lets me create a TXT record for machine names of the form "something.casano.com". Their "default" SPF record is attached to "*.casano.com". I created additional TXT SPF records for " dudley.casano.com" and "mail.casano.com", but that made no difference in the DKIM performance. dig -t txt '*.casano.com' ; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> -t txt *.casano.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22642 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;*.casano.com. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: *.casano.com. 21599 IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx -all" ;; Query time: 88 msec ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 04 11:21:40 EDT 2018 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 70 Google is happy with my SPF records, all my emails to gmail pass SPF checks. Somehow, they know to lookup *.casano.com. The problem I'm having is that SOME of my DKIM mail passes the check, and some doesn't. The difference appears to be based on what MUA/client I use to send the email. Email sent using Thunderbird on another machine on my LAN passes DKIM checks. Emails sent using "mailx" or my mailman list server fail DKIM checks. For both the Thunderbird case and the mailx case, the "From:" field is " dud@casano.com", and yet in one case, DKIM passes, and in the other, it doesn't. Chris' assertion that the DKIM key is chosen based on the From: field is backed up by the man page for opendkim.conf(5), but there's a lot in the paragraphs on SigningTable and I'll be staring at that until little drops of blood appear on my forehead. Thanks, Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:41 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Tue, September 4, 2018 10:28, William Dudley wrote: > > my domain is not "casaMo.com", so all of your research is irrelevant. > > > drill casano.com txt > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: SERVFAIL, id: 39400 > ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;; casano.com. IN TXT > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: > > ;; Query time: 2 msec > ;; SERVER: 216.185.71.33 > ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 4 10:30:40 2018 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 28 > > If your senders have from addresses like username@casano.com then I > believe that this is still a problem, if not the only one. > > -- > *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** > Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail > Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail > > James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca > Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca > 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 > Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 > Canada L8E 3C3 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 15:48:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F105AFF303D for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 15:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw1-xc2a.google.com (mail-yw1-xc2a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A9DD748E2 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 15:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw1-xc2a.google.com with SMTP id 14-v6so1440757ywe.2 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 08:48:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mQwxPXyQ5PK1SoVBBH6QxQP+eFsFY48X6VgJWsRj/2c=; b=mHR0jw2/veh/AVDhmzQKPQeyG1hkRj/X1z8kAwfonT4qeDfXpQ2KAeq5mDWCB4sq8/ nBC5kVIQoIfr188UU9w99yJpyIkO4VvNC1rwxPUURN9pC8Ei8I68vmJb84vVQEvG6sj0 Hg54bTZNJ1DWWf2WwOStVM+wmdXGissKp81Tk92SIFhGQLAIDcTbGbHMR/5DSjyPmNqG cluDHhyAS2Lbznd1O3jihicyFfghkqBMZNWUM7FW0zFQh0qHBQ/3w7aaf9q2NNtyruqD buf9ulrghi5l9CTFfGVIAM5thCyt5uUP1Rg0j0c69PHZJj/2j2qnGOF5iFkmgoLo+GMd eWsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mQwxPXyQ5PK1SoVBBH6QxQP+eFsFY48X6VgJWsRj/2c=; b=URAcjXeuyVwWOJweGD3rs3ZtOUqWkiNLqZyXHo8GPVU4XZhapXVfMZCp0reFtfq1lV l6WT7d0eeEQteJIYEatzjJ8BCZSlmS2HBw+Vyh/m4HdSThhJkVDuOLnIeR+Tajwc0nwM eX7QDLSDko+vKdS8eG9oExRPGsRkrJNxgWeaQUy5vbo35yUpRE6Ht7cJ42oa7qoEGSip vh9/XffApMBVqyUa5fRM/iJDXU0nVHGk0TIIyrzE6vDeX1QslYRm/OaAH5krOxDj6lMR zTjavIjgXIJyz1vsQjvgHi2ft+ilUR19Mxb2TzReZPjhMIPxoRBtobgvDw4S0LJ5kOYQ mQNQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51A8rxd3t8C44ETewlCSYEr+yULbwTwysHKrWNk753OAcmzi4byK lQyM/4bTPJBPydcwBSBKNFG38M1JKDqZxdJyzRY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdayvAqo8pVUa6g1IINfSJ9TXNiSl+FuWmW/dgwSlD/7nHX7qRm1s2xs0hgMg1mU9EkW32pUN+aBBxgRAULf0UU= X-Received: by 2002:a81:de07:: with SMTP id k7-v6mr19034153ywj.335.1536076123812; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 08:48:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:2682:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 08:48:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2d9ca6fc33b9aa430233bc0862b65453.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <47bf9a4f8499073f6b29bf7b29d82039.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: William Dudley Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts To: "James B. Byrne" , Chris Gordon Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 15:48:45 -0000 I have decided to abandon this quest. The intersection of DKIM and Mailman is a huge cluster f--k, and will not be sorted out any time soon, if ever. Since I value the mailing lists I host, and am unwilling to stop those services, it makes sense to give up on DKIM. DKIM doesn't solve any problems (except for one poor schmuck who has a ". us.army.mil" email address, that rejects all email without DKIM), I don't find DKIM valuable enough to fight with it any more. Thanks to all for their suggestions. I have learned somethings, which was the point, after all. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:32 AM, William Dudley wrote: > Zoneminder only lets me create a TXT record for machine names of > the form "something.casano.com". Their "default" SPF record is attached > to "*.casano.com". I created additional TXT SPF records for " > dudley.casano.com" > and "mail.casano.com", but that made no difference in the DKIM > performance. > > dig -t txt '*.casano.com' > > ; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> -t txt *.casano.com > ;; global options: +cmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22642 > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 > > ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: > ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;*.casano.com. IN TXT > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > *.casano.com. 21599 IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx -all" > > ;; Query time: 88 msec > ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) > ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 04 11:21:40 EDT 2018 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 70 > > Google is happy with my SPF records, all my emails to gmail pass SPF > checks. > Somehow, they know to lookup *.casano.com. > > The problem I'm having is that SOME of my DKIM mail passes the check, > and some doesn't. The difference appears to be based on what MUA/client > I use to send the email. > > Email sent using Thunderbird on another machine on my LAN passes DKIM > checks. > Emails sent using "mailx" or my mailman list server fail DKIM checks. > > For both the Thunderbird case and the mailx case, the "From:" field is " > dud@casano.com", > and yet in one case, DKIM passes, and in the other, it doesn't. > > Chris' assertion that the DKIM key is chosen based on the From: field is > backed up by the man page for opendkim.conf(5), but there's a lot in the > paragraphs on SigningTable and I'll be staring at that until little drops > of blood > appear on my forehead. > > Thanks, > Bill Dudley > > > This email is free of malware because I run Linux. > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:41 AM, James B. Byrne > wrote: > >> >> On Tue, September 4, 2018 10:28, William Dudley wrote: >> > my domain is not "casaMo.com", so all of your research is irrelevant. >> > >> drill casano.com txt >> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: SERVFAIL, id: 39400 >> ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 >> ;; QUESTION SECTION: >> ;; casano.com. IN TXT >> >> ;; ANSWER SECTION: >> >> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: >> >> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: >> >> ;; Query time: 2 msec >> ;; SERVER: 216.185.71.33 >> ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 4 10:30:40 2018 >> ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 28 >> >> If your senders have from addresses like username@casano.com then I >> believe that this is still a problem, if not the only one. >> >> -- >> *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** >> Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail >> Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail >> >> James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca >> Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca >> 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 >> Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 >> Canada L8E 3C3 >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 16:05:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA985FF378D for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 16:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F262751FF for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 16:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1360CA1E2D; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 16:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w84G50r7069787; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:05:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w84G4xvp069775; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:05:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:04:59 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: FreeBSD TWC cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multi-boot In-Reply-To: <42193ff6-7447-e917-3ca8-5840491918e5@twc.com> Message-ID: References: <42193ff6-7447-e917-3ca8-5840491918e5@twc.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Sep 2018 12:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:05:07 -0000 On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, FreeBSD TWC wrote: > I have previous FreeBSD experience, but have been inactive for a few years. > > I used to partition disks with an MBR, and install multiple OSes and > FreeBSD had a boot manager (now known as boot0) that allowed me to > select which OS to boot. > > I now have a new machine that uses UEFI and I can't figure out how to > mimic the multi-boot menu. > > It appears to me that I can no longer use boot0 because I'm using amd64, > not i386. > > I want to use EFI, GPT, and select OSes from a menu.  The efibootmgr man > page appears to be incorrect.  I tried the example and it caused a > syntax error.  There is no -d option (the command said -d ada0) > > I was hoping to add another EFI variable and hoped it would allow me to > select which partition to boot. I'm using FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE. With UEFI it is a brave new world. Start here: http://ximalas.info/2015/03/19/uefi-gpt-windows-10-freebsd-10-and-refind/ https://www.robertcina.com http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html https://wiki.freebsd.org/UEFI A number of people have posted to questions so searching your history/archives for UEFI will at least give useful background as to the current state of booting. I assume the second operating system is windows. If it is, and it is still there, take some care not to kill it. My general experience is that if FreeBSD does not work with your BIOS/firmware you pretty much have to figure out what file is required and where that file should be to boot. The refind install is good in that your system probably knows how to boot that and refind knows how to boot FreeBSD and others. I used the first link to install FreeBSD 10.3 (AFAIK its all the same after 10) with windows 10 on a Lenovo laptop. My only problems were not understanding how to do some of the steps with the windows commands. 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charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On 09/04/2018 11:48 AM, William Dudley wrote: > I have decided to abandon this quest. >=20 > The intersection of DKIM and Mailman is a huge cluster f--k, and will n= ot > be sorted out > any time soon, if ever. >=20 > Since I value the mailing lists I host, and am unwilling to stop those > services, > it makes sense to give up on DKIM. Before you give up on DKIM, it sounds as though this is a Mailman problem. There are "fixes" for some issues in Mailman (both 2.1 and 3.1) that can be easily applied. In short, DKIM is a digital signature using a private key. The signature can be verified with the public key. If anything in the message is changed (as Mailman and other list software is apt to do by changing headers or adding a footer), DKIM will fail. Also, some large freemail providers (Yahoo and AOL) have published DMARC policies to reject any emails from them that fail DKIM. Many smaller servers do the same. Here's the DKIM results from your last email via Gmail: Authentication-Results: maurice.jlkmail.com (amavisd-new); dkim=3Dfail (2048-bit key) reason=3D"fail (body has been altered)" header.d=3Dgmail.com More and more large servers are requiring not only DKIM, but DMARC policies as well. Running a small mail server is only going to get more cumbersome. Taking down a working system may not be the best choice. What is the specific problems that this one user is having? Is it that his emails to the list are being rejected? Or is his mail server at "us.army.mil" rejecting emails from the list? Can you post the relevant entries from your mail log (usually /var/log/maillog on FreeBSD)? >=20 > DKIM doesn't solve any problems (except for one poor schmuck who has a = ". > us.army.mil" > email address, that rejects all email without DKIM), I don't find DKIM > valuable > enough to fight with it any more. >=20 > Thanks to all for their suggestions. I have learned somethings, which = was > the point, > after all. >=20 > Bill Dudley >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 Jim Ohlstein Professional Mailman Hosting https://mailman-hosting.com --CxTJLnF1jXiFj8oVt7xkeIOMV1DkflP0B-- --iqfLenNuEVXfsrEJNBgrRK3FlINpsXld1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEGuTcIH7bi7c+YS0aS/VKDXmLVX0FAluO+/wACgkQS/VKDXmL VX0PwAgAo4DO0cSsh0JAyipMpI8LY5z6MekhjZJmqzQjnyqtiw4FI0G2gbg25JFV M/tQ9ejybxSRxZlBbXdR/4qVVrZE5iF2dzfeTzEalpcsvK5M5VxqCL7TCluBv88Z cqfDDbOj7EeuSL8h3pMT4zL1WOIyUG0wBc3rNhMFTke/nJ3qsoijyBjmFUzryUmT Ue5vQkOYE2h4mCcQvC5806RRUZ5eUBRLp8tWigiCs5yntGAnqSfMq6XaA4jneKM4 iyYgYA2CFx4Fe0Aw1XH5CW2ElHzLVAYjgB7xFh3eqq6IAwivjQ8Al0PuMOTVz1dq RoiC1Z6st4ZoUgwjqKf7t3oaPOxVfQ== =nx5c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iqfLenNuEVXfsrEJNBgrRK3FlINpsXld1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 22:17:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81E7FFD8EB for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 22:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw1-xc2a.google.com (mail-yw1-xc2a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 060AF83DC0 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 22:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw1-xc2a.google.com with SMTP id m62-v6so1889757ywd.6 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 15:17:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=IF4xf1hLlcbsPyXEAZkSKNRrj19fl1+2d4FO4xBvHBk=; b=EI+rtKIMlEeQQHzWWRQkSZsPFhBYX7OOZYDOBtujpuFlnspxMDmjO5KLqrZpqbYmwt OOhBcZRx0d7mkleM0fS87Rgdrx9P6R01HKtc78dpaGJ06NIdtyE1cFC1GvzgCS3Rosug JBxH5HAgFvxRNdZ2qExfzauoLvET8K375CZuv/AQU+3wdiuXaAiv0YIcf4uvlnUIDVkj d7SbyJuAqdCB72rbI2JzCRIWNJuklRDCxERmi25clWZwSbUOlrzw5jUziTcVGeFRbqi4 /Pvw+iN66Ma7vIyPY37aAp6pKTVDCkh+fp+Tja261+y0AvfOA2wv4IctrJXH1b5Tx/i/ oWGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=IF4xf1hLlcbsPyXEAZkSKNRrj19fl1+2d4FO4xBvHBk=; b=O8FOPY1hixPa3jHFr+W3c8tfRbCceTh+0hRVXhgcUN60TIx+HF2xAOOuGgdmBcxNnn awM7q4Mh3ASbO3eIP4QZjp92D6nI9H/vAkF/x6m51XbBXl68AltXQ7Qx6yfaRMmAU1Wg 9ddZhGd2kBGvReSHOMr23OLSt3Bf5PiFe9Bom02th4ty5FVuVCypZtZ7i7ymVuhEa753 TQDlwdwvlImcau1Gfc1E/+ktP/QoRlub8nAKyxGQpPskkd29DhRtocyQ+6nkx/cga/2k 2qqPaVwbCQ59yi6Bhc53F+Uy03XY23ns5lnKZrxa9sSB7wwCWt0jJSayXgVQl1OOyk6P N08A== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51C7ZeKCoWQewyC8DoBQjPQNYKGyJvB7GUwPsDqkfrh2GwrtSl0q HqPdCTu+ZeuhDOMX7RMXUYF4B/J8hv/ecD3Pp+j9YA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdawkYVILAtz+MypMjfkT0tVQXhiGXrbMp59qmzCOALUCJ+2EVv4WH3BCpRGzoYlV9P0LmvKJm26Br21YuWCVUk= X-Received: by 2002:a81:5dc1:: with SMTP id r184-v6mr19129598ywb.122.1536099430152; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 15:17:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:aa33:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1f9110ef-7cc6-a359-58a6-290a3d16ff47@mailman-hosting.com> References: <2d9ca6fc33b9aa430233bc0862b65453.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <47bf9a4f8499073f6b29bf7b29d82039.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <1f9110ef-7cc6-a359-58a6-290a3d16ff47@mailman-hosting.com> From: William Dudley Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 18:17:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts To: Jim Ohlstein Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:17:11 -0000 I was hoping that having my server "do" DKIM would improve my "reputation" with other mail servers. This was prompted by bounce messages from some clown with a " us.army.mil" address, whose server bounces *everything* without a valid 1024 bit DKIM signature. I'm just running a hobby mail server, but I provide about a dozen mailing lists to small organizations. The problems with DKIM for me are: 1. It's "impossible" (read: "I'm not spending any more time on this") to get DKIM working with different MUAs. I can get it to work when I send email using Thunderbird, but not when I send email from the command line (mailx). "Works" means that the inserted DKIM headers pass the checks at the other end. 2. My server sends automated reminder emails to the mailing lists, and any emails sent by my system through Mailman fail DKIM checks (even though my system is inserting DKIM stuff in the headers). In both cases, apparently there's some magic involved with hostnames in the mail headers and the matching DNS records, and I have given up because hours and hours of experimenting have gotten me exactly bupkus. I read a bit on the intersection of Mailman and DKIM, and it isn't pretty. It's not even clear *what* Mailman should DO with DKIM signed emails from people submitting emails to their list. I was only worrying about signing my OWN emails (machine generated) using DKIM, and hadn't even considered what would happen to *other's* DKIM signatures. If I wasn't running Mailman, I might be interested in figuring out the magic, but since the Mailman/DKIM thing is so borked, it's time to declare victory and move on. Perhaps one day, my children will be able to get DKIM working with Mailman, but it's clearly science fiction right now. AOL and Yahoo can't go out of business fast enough. Yahoo broke all mailing lists with their stupid policy of "email that has From: domain different from sending domain is spam" and that's enough damage that it should result in the corporate death penalty. When the majority of the emails from my own server are bouncing from lack of DKIM, I'll shut off my mail server. That's why I have a gmail account, as a secondary channel. Thanks, Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Jim Ohlstein wrote: > Hello, > > On 09/04/2018 11:48 AM, William Dudley wrote: > > I have decided to abandon this quest. > > > > The intersection of DKIM and Mailman is a huge cluster f--k, and will not > > be sorted out > > any time soon, if ever. > > > > Since I value the mailing lists I host, and am unwilling to stop those > > services, > > it makes sense to give up on DKIM. > > Before you give up on DKIM, it sounds as though this is a Mailman > problem. There are "fixes" for some issues in Mailman (both 2.1 and 3.1) > that can be easily applied. > > In short, DKIM is a digital signature using a private key. The signature > can be verified with the public key. If anything in the message is > changed (as Mailman and other list software is apt to do by changing > headers or adding a footer), DKIM will fail. Also, some large freemail > providers (Yahoo and AOL) have published DMARC policies to reject any > emails from them that fail DKIM. Many smaller servers do the same. > > Here's the DKIM results from your last email via Gmail: > > Authentication-Results: maurice.jlkmail.com (amavisd-new); > dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (body has been altered)" > header.d=gmail.com > > More and more large servers are requiring not only DKIM, but DMARC > policies as well. Running a small mail server is only going to get more > cumbersome. Taking down a working system may not be the best choice. > > What is the specific problems that this one user is having? Is it that > his emails to the list are being rejected? Or is his mail server at > "us.army.mil" rejecting emails from the list? Can you post the relevant > entries from your mail log (usually /var/log/maillog on FreeBSD)? > > > > > DKIM doesn't solve any problems (except for one poor schmuck who has a ". > > us.army.mil" > > email address, that rejects all email without DKIM), I don't find DKIM > > valuable > > enough to fight with it any more. > > > > Thanks to all for their suggestions. I have learned somethings, which > was > > the point, > > after all. > > > > Bill Dudley > > > > > > > > -- > Jim Ohlstein > Professional Mailman Hosting > https://mailman-hosting.com > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 4 23:20:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7A3FFEA7F for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 23:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-oi0-x22f.google.com (mail-oi0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BE0485811 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 23:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-oi0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id p84-v6so10139392oic.4 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:20:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ephlRWDkAHbapfcTcMXis9Mg+jZWgYPiymJO1EmHK88=; b=HXGZDZVNoIAowi4sahyfSYJ7u62U0DUnztE9obpDxQP0bwPm8pFw76LGcQVM/vUucU gxh8RKq89CicXi4EUycY7oc6nLUZCZxE4L4XRbKzXu1qDW4IGwu+Eh9B7yegTM0Hgfc0 pLhpLxRYeAFKX5zJWE3MCelLLXcnIRM9qZaYI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ephlRWDkAHbapfcTcMXis9Mg+jZWgYPiymJO1EmHK88=; b=iDBErh402dPtZb7MoE0P58+absem6pubvH/9Y8XKWE3JCmntHmXB9GDwQbcIJqVLJg 1FXd8pjAFzTiFj/jRJMCNWmmdwsp8XPxZkn7W/ZBwPrAyaSmSTHvwj7LNPDrXAKRqbwu GYi6YH6kq3nwMIrq/8eaeAGmu2BqjzUO3xmnu8RXNrZz5v0O6HG2nX5C8BxbCFYzvsEb OCwCuEQBCuwwhA6KKkE2AetqMqXyyU+7OVeNDE23Ja1POnKXNlJmrUsq3M4s6UFZW6ru +FRpof0+/y3pDgI8lPf4V55gaYgtn3Fq6osn4XZV1qhXvtXZSMw/ElkVxIJnNU51E/rW ufww== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51Dt0iyWXMeVUy1PiaIXzEdQx53JDbJKDrEq+RJg5gIQ31NK66zs 4QsIb4eqpNZlZdalEiRkoxcbz+tMN5e6EU+isOQZ4A40RRw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYgCWll6cRdRzpCSeoFhH3rEqkVHAP02hwcAQZuvWfIvXxOadzP1BDYIdOt4n/rxHdAWQ0PLd/ZBuFB3th14aE= X-Received: by 2002:aca:3b45:: with SMTP id i66-v6mr25629890oia.312.1536103215838; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:20:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ac9:6a01:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 16:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 20:20:15 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Source upgrade from 10-STABLE to 11-STABLE To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:20:21 -0000 Hi; Since 10 EOLed, I need to upgrade this server. It has an 8Tbyte zfs dataset shared by a samba 4. The Os runs from a separate ufs drive. The only running ports are Samba and VirtualBox. zfs list -o version VERSION 5 5 5 5 I've done this upgrade on workstations but never on a production server. I Have backups of all boot/etc configs. Should I expect problems with zfs after recompilation? Any "watch outs" for this src upgrade? Thanks for any advice, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 5 00:52:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51367FCFDA1 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x92e.google.com (mail-ua1-x92e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED5A789616 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 00:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x92e.google.com with SMTP id 101-v6so4452929uav.7 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 17:52:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6llt7fcpHFja742lz/tAaALkidabfofq1WAbXzPoob0=; b=fw9M79F1Bh327lCffYqWvZOufNC9q02M35rOr7SVzrxoBpBqrwxH2XvFHWQQlNB0oP +pL7et/HGoQlUN+UpDqXG7eVjf++TJELaZZhtsSXj78xiW0QhN1POEddOKZ48y2HDwJl xaenUJ08sR6QcWbnmRronZhlQxJUonqczZrr2ZMXIDQs+lFF2yQWUY1b8GaqAFmUetdB axg94chJ1Dw6MjFG4ps85w8MjzQ4Elm7bXBPSlK8g2WL2xpYaGRjXsov9nhPXzc0U4Io yX1cNWAtCk7j/NeJeWPgckiLH3NlqOLDpcpQPYi4N+nDaAVrCqgPmTi4rh+JE0DR4wZj Ah7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6llt7fcpHFja742lz/tAaALkidabfofq1WAbXzPoob0=; b=uF8W4qNXkn8dHmm6VVo6CxLVhJ8aoytpvGGeU/XQ805m3OAVEiFBvndPPfCutNSeCv gze6vErgV0M6n+gT9GXt7Ngj6MmeBnLFGCUZIhOd+OyMb3ArosPLO/Rh8YQ+xspG230s wu8I/wWRsYH7erDPBUsKbAMRieK7HyKfQNdHrAti6PMSNdQXgroJSrEJttt4/rVHxnP1 tisqlJ5dfNBExA/hjOIb8dJdpT0zlfPZ0QkNF2zyUYjuEgfywE2+/dUMNfNcB421FhyU zaKVRwR3wMAMNjsPQg/bypOTybp55zzeUjr5zfiEcKngtwlwnjY7BPD55OAmslJX8jzY 3P4A== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CZgvAQS1r00GO2H6mNm+FuXu8pjryMTRzMvtg3Rkgr1kScHG4R eFcAhbLzBrCQd6KvED3kqzQQG8sQMy3JYkN19fLnljX8VC8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYdGGlOcKlg2FXEhKczOSMWvO6gddi2/5Hgl2cig7g4tJi5pzVUG77KzGtrSrRxpQ78VtAr3XwaNVNcI/TVipk= X-Received: by 2002:a67:3fca:: with SMTP id q71-v6mr11374130vsi.1.1536108719961; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 17:51:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alejandro Imass Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 20:51:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Credentials/keychain/keystore for server applications on FreeBSD? To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 00:52:01 -0000 Hi, Are there any tools that can store application credentials in encrypted form and then provide them to applications in a secure manner at runtime ? I=E2=80=99m looking for a generic tool that provides some sort of protocol = with timeouts etc. For example, a server application needs user and password for database access and can query this tool for them on startup exactly one time. Maybe the tool could control the number of times it gives out the credentials or timeout after a certain period (e.g. 2 minutes after reboot) Then would require authentication to open up the vault again. There must be a better way of managing all the disparate credentials that several applications may need in a secure way instead of storing these credentials in clear text in some config file which is what most people do.. maybe something like the JKS but generic to any type of app with some relatively secure protocol. TIA for any pointers or ideas. Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 5 01:16:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332A4FD4721 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 01:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A220B8A105 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 01:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x233.google.com with SMTP id b19-v6so6216646wme.3 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 18:16:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5XFh95Be0P9xslksA4AO+gYnzKNAF7Kx40C/845xTd8=; b=Kp0AkxRZVyWUz3hijsb+5ieub0s7hw6vOAB3OL7GIaiT9r28hPOm3BhOREEku0NQAC CEcQwjNkPQiMsWWH2hQUJmm4VQtMwDWUrSO0rqyLFTVtAiuvWM6giCTqtG2E5o1kvpXg 9jtQZoXCd8xvAwUvnRYnynUiGjzJ1UjEutIY+ny2fZTAYRV+8Nl2dsW9+JYx5T09FlfW pR3i8GICB/hk9wKYRqMJQBVbyibTZDL9SzWbLtXDI7oV+R8hPm81p2IQ9337JyluVIOP UgJXbHkLmA/q8mXSSCe/w55SQ3ehK2AhkimIiwo+696Da7dxX4sFFsPGuNnQyxino3E1 a7mg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5XFh95Be0P9xslksA4AO+gYnzKNAF7Kx40C/845xTd8=; b=dTJztkGFmL1YKBF7Bz/fqywLz0dchAucMpEKK3CYwEMMPRwUnWolaJWmwO3RrGq1F1 eNgi3EelTHKa0KtZoHRJ0PsHrMkDYm89zcIItRhxIF39oyOpUlkFDadEbUHgehbZY7YV r1WJRL3ew89VDeQ/7dgNPYX1RN+JfRHXRd56OeB4km14muCkAWn5Vz/9Th8HIYGpYnSr k44J4LpZWhCVhS4zhdY42kgXT/TzXRy5BnqIc3ml/7X3RrMwGsddJyj4n08eb+BV1QST j9wmArhCnDH9AYmblxfLHg9DXT8aOjtOjKpMLFl3M1JAAzTar7if3Zw1d+qIw18c2QSK jF1g== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BxFBExLZc0j57PQYLTxLULRKxBx7Ku9JstgKHR+YzQkcV8kmxA /6ZMF4ex71sG0t8+HKMfRQdXu9Kou0y3oQmP9r0eNDeY X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZM8shD4t0/p1nqWZBUWkb8rBNM2yAUSXzt256tH8X8ry69UP4cbotvGTUjoIx+o62oJT4K6G5+ToCGWfuaUwE= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:c642:: with SMTP id w63-v6mr9722601wmf.3.1536110169315; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 18:16:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Outback Dingo Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 03:15:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Credentials/keychain/keystore for server applications on FreeBSD? To: aimass@yabarana.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 01:16:11 -0000 On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:53 AM Alejandro Imass wrote: > > Hi, > > Are there any tools that can store application credentials in encrypted > form and then provide them to applications in a secure manner at runtime = ? > > I=E2=80=99m looking for a generic tool that provides some sort of protoco= l with > timeouts etc. > > For example, a server application needs user and password for database > access and can query this tool for them on startup exactly one time. > > Maybe the tool could control the number of times it gives out the > credentials or timeout after a certain period (e.g. 2 minutes after reboo= t) > Then would require authentication to open up the vault again. > > There must be a better way of managing all the disparate credentials that > several applications may need in a secure way instead of storing these > credentials in clear text in some config file which is what most people > do.. maybe something like the JKS but generic to any type of app with som= e > relatively secure protocol. > > TIA for any pointers or ideas. hashicorps vault is in ports https://www.vaultproject.io/ > > Alex > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 5 02:47:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0152FFDAF79 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 02:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x92b.google.com (mail-ua1-x92b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DB798D24E for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 02:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x92b.google.com with SMTP id r15-v6so4633115uao.1 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 19:47:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=K3tTzxQSgnM5YdTwpvR29suf8F/f2H20aNcQAzC5hp0=; b=RBT/W7ocBy96F2RXg/6Wy4P8HyyyK3UGKDsJ8YL/oMF60+ryrDVJIOlai/LBB09N/J JUGhsakZvcH5OsyAIzcCwp9+/kHCDHRrQefaz3Y2/nukjy76Uc1UFQcjB/vSpFSaGf9m avgFTk3kq7F50s9Mqaw2+i2DMvUHj8l3wgogU8Do8oZ9u+JyT7BeT6WspU8HbDu3PeeF JWDNLZzXf49NIWC6QoIgJWcK1OJDPwg67Q9DFanp21FSJbvbqrbcBhWL4FnmLBeeLAGz SNi4me93EPmG3neQot0hufiha5+9Tc3MjV8+lon8gek+M/JWUgHE5vYdbDei5sqtV1ea Uuag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=K3tTzxQSgnM5YdTwpvR29suf8F/f2H20aNcQAzC5hp0=; b=KnSCGgaIT8+E1ZIzlLcUCurKX+vD4gSHezXLoW3EGUqiCcGp2AE5vb7il8K0DrhC2h miRWtCN0Q3lrUkHfaFpJghyTsp5PqffXCcnxMVCPKBznrxAYOwiFoehBhk2ZLghYv7gi UYCx67Q1WZsTJYnyvYE1it79faV5MNvWFNUKL2YaO9HNB6p7i76EDSo54WhusBFQBBPr kRJCE/Estz4z6cLzcpHtsRtGmYpvZnDjbUAw22ARms3OpQS6R5AYjRE6DbkzW9L7drJj 1eY/N3zbl7WGez/wT+4w4FjTE//SiPhVjMd8E+ovmpMXuPRxg7hzlz+VEMbGLjzVWdHZ gCWg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51ANcVisyd4Ct0JMbKZwg9+PVSsBXAAYvVke1Cv2eIzfg4Quu4F9 fQ//k8Psiztvsjhbng66kxzT7X+GSWIMh0grgIGAog== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYWsSIFpabZnXKS5Q6fgRUsvbWOfetExntv0mBGUfNK0FBmxAhVkL9IwVDZ0PslBd0qNr7Ti/c9gcnpkBAGhf8= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:49e2:: with SMTP id f31-v6mr20148761uad.117.1536115673796; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 19:47:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a67:7b42:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 19:47:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Alejandro Imass Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 22:47:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Credentials/keychain/keystore for server applications on FreeBSD? To: Outback Dingo Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 02:47:55 -0000 On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:15 PM, Outback Dingo wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:53 AM Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Are there any tools that can store application credentials in encrypted >> form and then provide them to applications in a secure manner at runtime ? >> [...] > > hashicorps vault is in ports > > https://www.vaultproject.io/ > Wow, nailed it !! I was thinking along the lines of the JSK and Amazon's KMS but I knew there must be something better or at least better suited for this particular task. I found this very interesting: https://www.vaultproject.io/intro/vs/kms.html Vault seems almost exactly what I was looking for! Thank you very much !!! Best, Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 5 02:56:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD2BFE043C for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 02:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x432.google.com (mail-wr1-x432.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::432]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22F758D69E for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 02:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x432.google.com with SMTP id z96-v6so5930496wrb.8 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 19:56:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Ms+a7glgZohzW9qwKyU2vx7aNoFWFg48Wg3fpxwnBxo=; b=dRPD3+4X5Edh+nS069FqTZ6yODhcb9ie9MkifcVaecZzjZr4XpinJHdMsX9x5QcE5Z d1UCSNWRF0Ls9OyXhg9oAEsEycJVTnlKxmwLgkl3SvkbnwjzLDaauqb9hqo/8xDjOM32 Nl34ahNZ62UCIAy1Y7Q5fUrni7kaAP/Kv09VikihZ2wH8dEiX8OOy+BzfvHerQQXkiN5 YvnFaSyZmz00WCIEoYKLDpjk70in2N7VajsNR30l4U8jqOUjiF/TY/29vGp5Z6jkFLSo V+BlYZbpyk+k23GZxJbhlLKWZR5gHk2r8+tuikDdfHNFtDojg40x0FCIpzxGlVbhp6Il HlFQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ms+a7glgZohzW9qwKyU2vx7aNoFWFg48Wg3fpxwnBxo=; b=Yy3s93xmag+8TieJDrPHCB6WShjB6IanCtTj89CRHa3gOA67mDNvYTNDzlKEhjC87G AQ091VTfudcWWbe46c3shDZTW9S7LleF6A0itUjsXq/JviRG8fP5XzZF/TA4uk2e8VMB q35WJ7Pl/sxTpA/6MB83BTqQEwdYihVbf4aGYbHl0Dpr/MVDzcW+E4qf2q/TC2LGEjgF Gv8RTxezIP3s9GfKJwkz9cSw/unJNMLdePOWZKMiPON03fWQRI6qIJ9X6pRtQXG9R4Ag eVeIqck1zRo7LSKtQI/mpkdPfdwsIRl45EwoaoqXTY6A/0HxFc8wMBd5mqHCzvC+N7Wy ZHmw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51A6Ds8NQvgdgvmfLCzUE/4hcSXZJ/B3Rj/+xnfqLL7H8tL5VqcW brCDZsjS08JxrlNZE+2rISM0MpWWw7+OSGSfzNU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZ7QRE6AHnVg6lpzSp9qqaaJKOrIticudraQr4FjIA9WWoUwjPJOOp+Dd41MlBhYBeSIdexSxEx/V5EgbmBMAU= X-Received: by 2002:adf:9051:: with SMTP id h75-v6mr25902199wrh.65.1536116166958; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 19:56:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Outback Dingo Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 04:55:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Credentials/keychain/keystore for server applications on FreeBSD? To: aimass@yabarana.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 02:56:08 -0000 On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 4:47 AM Alejandro Imass wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:15 PM, Outback Dingo wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:53 AM Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Are there any tools that can store application credentials in encrypted > >> form and then provide them to applications in a secure manner at runtime ? > >> > > [...] > > > > > hashicorps vault is in ports > > > > https://www.vaultproject.io/ > > > > Wow, nailed it !! > Glad it could be of use ... > I was thinking along the lines of the JSK and Amazon's KMS but I knew > there must be something better or at least better suited for this > particular task. > > I found this very interesting: https://www.vaultproject.io/intro/vs/kms.html > > Vault seems almost exactly what I was looking for! > > Thank you very much !!! Your Welcome > > Best, > Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 5 05:01:59 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A29FE3577 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 05:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erkinbatu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x52a.google.com (mail-ed1-x52a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EEC2712AE for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 05:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erkinbatu@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ed1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id h33-v6so4998700edb.5 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:01:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=H/CF+r136LCci/yzlAax66HNEyS6BqHKMiMRe1dDUWc=; b=ZlF2B3FAcH+s0YqzHfCXTLqLseQCcKQcNxJaZkOCr41ecmg7MAQoupUAT3Cx2WyauT e3CeF8XNrh9mv/GhMSNvEY4m8Nalioz8L87jJYQGjAaPF8vOAQV0xp61aEx5Jiolgwyr ytHER8ZMoe65MnioQqv+iX59FYpBCZRthQvS1c9hznWEoPcos8pFN0mnGV4R3cgPowHd LgNRhxsdfPAYjRtcfIfj8NJdyZY6NVMvxinZsVMOhuPY9pW85LdMnO1zxgMeT+61HaBy QCg4yTxRPQ3jKcC8Go7Z+4bD2GV1OrUU6emX/2stkeIuPFGnk2gMtf2X5R3Wfh1CHriw Wiqg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=H/CF+r136LCci/yzlAax66HNEyS6BqHKMiMRe1dDUWc=; b=Q4RHXMIzOeluZIlkPW6jmacUQ6YHJ/6TXHMNC3Erg2svM83xs6WqhL3XKIhTDio/Pl 3uHZRSk6ehzDJNcKrMrUOGcJB2C++JaVWyd4WN4eV3wCcxrOXrVQQ4OxONarnSnZZA66 slV+QcWFwcAx7AZot0SwKpiily2B+Qrx6pIHvv+DgLDXjUYNGUPYtNLLam8cCkkCoQY8 ZqPW/4IPmCv69CSLvrGo5DiHsgxv8IlH5UMSEpzKA8XkYt1YxBxkEFNNwyiaS+FYpK4J 6ji9VvUIicjdtFFwuVNzXyHSpxcu9m+AAKuzJ0LMjttZz4xGj4PBv7cS1PRsHAe0K8mb fIRA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DDS0N5FG2MvsAfHprEjyt8JUBGJHOZrfKkp2IZCIIxJ0iMjLM2 VeObSxkFU87BrGszVDWotg5BYHvj X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbNjULsncHGhbVziSPKcTGUr+jDRIfpRc1jZBRXfluackRTo2+/XgX943AwZHhgewq3cf0twg== X-Received: by 2002:a50:b941:: with SMTP id m59-v6mr39713017ede.20.1536123718116; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([176.42.175.232]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y27-v6sm619332edb.20.2018.09.04.22.01.57 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 08:01:55 +0300 From: erkin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with booting 11.2 on KVM with multiple cores Message-ID: <20180905080155.5389ddb5@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.1 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 05:02:00 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 11.2 on a Qemu box with KVM and libvirt on a Linux host. For reference, the virt-install command I'm using is % virt-install --name bsd --memory 4096 --vcpus=2 --cpu host \ --cdrom $HOME/tmp/FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso --disk path=/media/store/test/bsd.qcow2 --network user \ --virt-type kvm --os-type=freebsd11.2 When I try to boot the kernel (using the bootonly ISO), I'm getting an infinite loop that prints "unexpected cache type 4". I managed to trace it to this announcement: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2016-April/060466.html Since it relates to SMP and my box has an AMD K10 processor (Phenom x3) so I figured I'd limit it to a single core through --vcpus=1 and sure enough, it worked and I was greeted by the installer. Is this a known issue? Or am I doing something wrong? 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[[DELIVERY_INFO]] [[POSTAL_ADDRESS]]= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 5 18:07:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAD2FF89FF for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96A168C984 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 78724 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2018 18:07:05 -0000 Received: from ary.local ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTP via TCP6; 05 Sep 2018 18:07:04 -0000 Received: by ary.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 89453200414382; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 20:07:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: 5 Sep 2018 20:07:04 +0200 Message-Id: <20180905180704.89453200414382@ary.local> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: wfdudley@gmail.com Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts In-Reply-To: Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 18:07:07 -0000 In article you write: >1. It's "impossible" (read: "I'm not spending any more time on this") to >get DKIM >working with different MUAs. I can get it to work when I send email using >Thunderbird, >but not when I send email from the command line (mailx). "Works" means >that the >inserted DKIM headers pass the checks at the other end. If they're failing because it says "message has been modfied" that should be all the hint you need. Sendmail conflates submission and relay, and has a sometimes unfortunate tendency to helpfully clean up message headers on the way through, which of course breaks DKIM signatures. I haven't run sendmail in 20 years but as I recall there should be some way to run submitted mail through sendmail once to clean up the headers, then DKIM sign it, then send it along for relay. That's what everyone else does. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 5 20:00:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3709FFB50E for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 20:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb30.google.com (mail-yb1-xb30.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B903709C7 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 20:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb1-xb30.google.com with SMTP id y20-v6so3179807ybi.13 for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 13:00:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7ddfVqoTB7u/6+iqimaIYvPHEJl1TIndlVbq96TuUo0=; b=Ld2lbpYG1UEblUezC5OYluFP4pegwdF2UGuZXwxhEO5n2ftqROQ2H0AbgiuLX2Dtja yLgqjTPKjqdvlr1VRys8bEYnfGa4sL9VRBRmrNnVsgym/vO5lfhu+AtAko0Mv6fuXT6P 7F6hcpIsL8bJBpxlSn3I597Dg3ISLbDdspVnh601QKuLwIzdgPX+WEGdBKZEdqodBlRx tFAJTwUHzc7xUqktaD52BRbgC0KlAXRZPr2j740f6BvlwIIzhEDWHMtqTP1pr+uK5IKI nl/eHksgwwiIFVfx8XCJlFsXG0Z9vKLWWETzKNaUleOYP5EhTxe5KYGMyDZQVJNlmN4A zt/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7ddfVqoTB7u/6+iqimaIYvPHEJl1TIndlVbq96TuUo0=; b=SFanaz5wK8OZ+IMeCFvtfNDg7qt7R4cuEOh+O+QeSRsWs+AfT1TPRa6QXqPZbD+Hgl LFsN380IgcJL1ccNbYUWxH4y/e4MCtlIJ7dNO3CfHeX8ZI/Gf1RQrbkycl29VYYUtz1u 4JjopszSU3ODvWfWaCF5UTf4E7S+IsEG11wPmAwcZgihdEz8vNFJOGKGrUvRfD8QQ0S9 0TpgwIjqOJGIYqcr51N5g1cL5TIrwhNUvRCnspTuS+FyhaySl12nmYVDnug7VS3VQM14 7ntHlQJQ3yqTfm05K+JSH4bD6zfnzNu9XFZoELsdS1arA515vV8a7KlWyl5HxmNHGkuc iYZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BEk7LxXF6OD+IzaAViOPRng3s1FK0PdGPxfE8lYueSS69zrh3V NjoZDXi2KatIduJOC5xoJrxklIgI3OPVg57QTL8Y4g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vda0sGaVJACdnMGWZdfRypHX2Fph02s+c9zTlaIjyQnLyAojcDzcEsbP76M9qfrajcGnk61y3hIdi3EBplxpZmM= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:c41:: with SMTP id d1-v6mr22065455ybr.136.1536177601790; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 13:00:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:aa33:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:00:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180905180704.89453200414382@ary.local> References: <20180905180704.89453200414382@ary.local> From: William Dudley Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 16:00:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts To: John Levine Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 20:00:03 -0000 No, this is not that case. This is the simplest possible use-case: type "Mail wfdudley@gmail.com" on the command line of my casano.com server and send a simple one line email with DKIM signing turned on. Google (and others) say the message fails DKIM "bad signature". Send the identical message from Thunderbird, and the message passes DKIM checks at the other end. Something is different between using Mail/mailx and using Thunderbird, and I've given up trying to figure out what. The fact that the intersection of Mailman and DKIM requires more black-art stuff just re-inforces my decision to give up on DKIM. Thanks, Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:07 PM, John Levine wrote: > In article mail.gmail.com> you write: > >1. It's "impossible" (read: "I'm not spending any more time on this") to > >get DKIM > >working with different MUAs. I can get it to work when I send email using > >Thunderbird, > >but not when I send email from the command line (mailx). "Works" means > >that the > >inserted DKIM headers pass the checks at the other end. > > If they're failing because it says "message has been modfied" that > should be all the hint you need. Sendmail conflates submission and > relay, and has a sometimes unfortunate tendency to helpfully clean up > message headers on the way through, which of course breaks DKIM > signatures. I haven't run sendmail in 20 years but as I recall there > should be some way to run submitted mail through sendmail once to > clean up the headers, then DKIM sign it, then send it along for relay. > That's what everyone else does. > > R's, > John > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 5 21:11:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3F0FFD006 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F20FF7352D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1536181876; x=1538773876; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=T7PAvS37lm8+UPf5u2aT4chMNpw1hgPlvtLNTfno+6M=; b=V0TbQKtdX4SAjld+0Sx3hYrqpKCxh1nV/nWZnK02Lf+iADXspfxkMtQ2Boz/ZO80B6zSb+QFj1d/HwhFegkYuB30i2j6YnFVM8h5PJB5clLqPx9rBjelq387ldu4ef5fyzyFmUW3lb0Ixh0sdD+a79uMxfn4NZOX1sos8M5vYY8= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOTkwMDAwMDE5NDA3MGEuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.13]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 17:11:05 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 5 Sep 2018 17:11:05 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fxf4o-000GpP-Kx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 21:11:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 22:11:01 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts Message-Id: <20180905221101.e845d600c2817baaa0dbf014@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20180905180704.89453200414382@ary.local> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 21:11:16 -0000 On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 16:00:01 -0400 William Dudley wrote: > The fact that the intersection of Mailman and DKIM requires more black-art > stuff just re-inforces my decision to give up on DKIM. If you find that you need it in the future look into the commercial bulk mail providers, some of them have free accounts for small users (several thousand emails per month sort of small). I started using one[1] when messages sent through my ISPs relay started bouncing. [1] If you want to know which one email me. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 5 21:16:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82FCFFD3C9 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-f68.google.com (mail-vk0-f68.google.com [209.85.213.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8018073B21 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-f68.google.com with SMTP id 79-v6so3264326vkm.4 for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 14:16:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nDRBtLcdXPYAiph//TTMmMGeurKZiCQi3CABwnzTrOI=; b=iJoTLIQTHA1UlUnIxhoNUfni4G+96MlAnx1xlqwCbXPJImC0KNLEcs8q6yC9LRNHN1 7upRymwHvjOowEX9/f2gxsNBbisi4yOLVJE7SIW12zWOCw26fL5c+U7D+blscXD02P3p UztH4HQY53efxdwLxCqi5r61MkHV37VWWUbeaMPl73mUg/rLdVPrtMzYmyGpBftSmfA4 HmjIDztb1raD3RmRiTPPhJvnyMClUPg7nAaXLzP7XLIXYa61eWxWXY1TLtZ4IhGSfqP0 3hou5QRD0buoCwG4qaomEuO+QKzObDzBQMzyA/rXxPlCDak21aCFVCjGD0cJRIBpjdUc K2iQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51A76MEmd+s5CH27orDgBPmAgqYj873DEq+Sy3XV4nDFGx+kPR1m 7Fq9FzreiMSNn6rBiR8gO+Ese6utHDvOeGSyCcP5Gw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZJ3Aq64FAdSM8G1VIRnLeTa/BlewMOYQCk5L7E4GSRegR/Touq8jevcjm6GgK7s4P4OSuNCbJylhuSRBFS/JQ= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:7c1:: with SMTP id 184-v6mr19043779vkh.89.1536180681380; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 13:51:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180902114502.e59ab940d98cd43cd6f1ca11@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: From: CeDeROM Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 22:51:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD OpenCL/CUDA nVidia To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 21:16:04 -0000 On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 11:55 PM CeDeROM wrote: > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 12:45 PM Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > What is the current AMD/ATI support for Open-Source? Do they provide > > > full GPU specification as opposed to nVidia? > > > > AMD/ATI opened up their interfaces and some core source code about a > > decade ago they still produce a closed source driver of their own but they > > support the open source Linux video driver apparently enthusiastically > > (according to one report it is now faster than the closed source one). > > > > Both Intel and AMD/ATI provide open source OpenCL stacks > > > > It really is nVidia that is the odd one out - but they do hold the > > high end of the hardware, the cards gamers and cryptocurrency miners lust > > after are all nVidia. > > Hmm, then I could consider ATI/AMD Radeon RX570 or 2x cheaper RX560.. > anyone had any experience with those beasts and OpenCL on FreeBSD (and > outside)? :-) Okay, so I have tested on ATI/AMD Radeon XT7870, and clinfo shows some stuff.. but also gets some error that propagates to upper layer applications.. I have noticed that when I also install Intel driver for OpenCL there are errors because there is no underlying hardware. CPU based OpenCL driver is nice to test some stuff. It still needs some work but I can see that ATI/AMD really left nVidia far behind in the Open-Source world. I have just ordered ATI/AMD RADEON RX 580 :-) AMD ROX! =) NVIDIA SUX! =) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 5 22:46:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AE3FCC49D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 22:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA6DB76F37 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 22:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 86733 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2018 22:46:38 -0000 Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.2/X.509/AEAD) via TCP6; 05 Sep 2018 22:46:37 -0000 Date: 6 Sep 2018 00:46:36 +0200 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "William Dudley" Cc: "freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts In-Reply-To: References: <20180905180704.89453200414382@ary.local> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (OSX 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 22:46:41 -0000 > type "Mail wfdudley@gmail.com" on the command line of my casano.com server > and send a simple one line email with DKIM signing turned on. > > Google (and others) say the message fails DKIM "bad signature". > > Send the identical message from Thunderbird, and the message passes DKIM > checks at the other end. > > Something is different between using Mail/mailx and using Thunderbird, > and I've given up trying to figure out what. Please reread my message. It told you why it's doing that. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 6 10:37:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8EEFF64E1 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 10:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 457B47060B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 10:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from guardian.ventu (wilbur.aviozzano-guglielmozamboni.it [88.147.119.19]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w86Aasjf085633 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 12:36:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host wilbur.aviozzano-guglielmozamboni.it [88.147.119.19] claimed to be guardian.ventu Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d From: Andrea Venturoli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20180827.172100.2296091074664550273.yasu@utahime.org> <2a9b79b1-2b57-98d3-9b4e-53eb4a9768b8@netfence.it> Message-ID: <031e3950-1189-2608-b67a-509e21e8d039@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 12:36:53 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2a9b79b1-2b57-98d3-9b4e-53eb4a9768b8@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.83 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:37:04 -0000 On 8/28/18 4:36 PM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Any other way to insert some pause? For the record, I filed https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=231193 bye av. 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Watson Twitter | Published Work From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 6 18:53:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3559EFDA6E3 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 18:53:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D50058577F for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 18:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E4B13BEB for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:53:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uZE-F2n_w_wn for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A6EF13BE2 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:53:30 -0400 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:53:30 -0400 Subject: Hewlett-Packard NS/VT terminal emulator program for FreeBSD From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 18:53:41 -0000 Does anyone here have knowledge of a terminal emulator program that supports the HP Network Services / Virtual Terminal communications protocol; and that runs on FreeBSD? There is a program called FreeVT3K which complies under Linux and which I have built in the past. However, I cannot undertake to port this to FreeBSD myself at the present time. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 19:43:51 -0000 Any place to find out what features are in 12? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 7 08:39:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48858FF4622 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2018 08:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC95D805E5 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2018 08:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2F021DFB; Fri, 7 Sep 2018 04:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 07 Sep 2018 04:39:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skunkwerks.at; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from :message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=YabDoKzlc742DPUIihVG+Z/CIr1ai67KVtIi8UT3u e8=; b=hrOlyMZ35BKMRQrAqG6DilOBZe26xV2jqA8EXtgnMS8gKvF6oC6Nj9tzt QFoiCl/DnO/ypLpDqMSFKMa7EElnAD8ZAC4iPznOPNHnzogaPr/rlUEEtmLunpcZ hbgUqnqJYfreUkUTet7Phiu7cQOqFaPtUkuIfyjUnykqnsqG11ZO4c7uAVG0tOgp 8vQtkinXY+wyedtk6kMjoGmWXDCWl0LoMj9qYTROoX14HsOA/+AW64iRJoWuvdPy XS8NBCWY5OGZzC7iiMKP+w1kUxbpFCYCtP8RkBsaie24DJIf4IZdEz/ZfT43zVGG bP/PpPJiskoUpy7fPpyAM69rMWNjA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=YabDoKzlc742DPUIihVG+Z/CIr1ai 67KVtIi8UT3ue8=; b=DijmTfx/d9fFxgqVpD+c3PPrLel/etqI13hNQ1dJ3A7rs SyHa1fR1XRI/eRR0oiQtJWUvp3HvyLtI7+B2Xj1odjDTRqcxVoVCjYo2g9/Agiee LoIiWZgxha+JnGYxF5cBORSziAKmVNYevueAGAPHCEzED/5iup+fqYCR71FpF343 nQlGA/eEvA7eDnSGf5wVKseyUadrinY5lQOueKW41q1MSphJ6g7eg9JFGZZo4HHu 56PVZsKgTrp4mGJel5NOj4pB9AOnLn9/hHi0XiNDMeSiAXzOn8KOFra4vQrDqKcN tllrdPCdV8oRcNzc2/25i5OK1hh3IqDR/6gQhbI2Q== X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id B58C64141; Fri, 7 Sep 2018 04:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1536309562.3194443.1499937040.1614FFAA@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Dave Cottlehuber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Rob Ramsay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-1234af23 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:39:22 +0200 Subject: sysctls for kernel modules loaded via kld_list in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:39:30 -0000 Apologies if this is completely obvious to everybody, it certainly wasn't to me until now. It seems that if a module (e.g. carp) is not started via /boot/loader.conf but in rc.conf via `kld_list="${kld_list} carp"`, then the /etc/sysctl.conf settings are not applied. It's obvious (in hindsight) why this is - sysctl is started before kld is run: $ rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* |egrep 'carp|kld|sysctl' ... /etc/rc.d/sysctl /etc/rc.d/kldxref /etc/rc.d/kld But it has caused some unexpected behaviour after rebooting, when preemption didn't work as planned. Is this an ordering bug, or something I could improve docs for e.g. in rc.conf(5)? A+ Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 7 09:21:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8E0FF5A78 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2018 09:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EB2581BC5 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2018 09:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 1691 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2018 09:21:06 -0000 Received: from ary.local ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTP via TCP6; 07 Sep 2018 09:21:06 -0000 Received: by ary.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id D70B520041EB7D; Fri, 7 Sep 2018 11:21:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: 7 Sep 2018 11:21:00 +0200 Message-Id: <20180907092100.D70B520041EB7D@ary.local> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: wfdudley@gmail.com Subject: Re: DKIM is driving me nuts In-Reply-To: Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 09:21:08 -0000 In article you write: >Something is different between using Mail/mailx and using Thunderbird, >and I've given up trying to figure out what. Thunderbird includes all the required headers, mailx doesn't so sendmail has to add some, probably date and message-id. Please see my previous message which told you how to fix it. R's, John PS: I have to agree with other people, if this is too hard to figure out, it's time to give up and pay someone else to manage your mail. 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Fri, 07 Sep 2018 07:56:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Frederic Chardon Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 16:56:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Linux openjdk segfault To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:56:32 -0000 Hi I'm on recent current (r338418) trying to compile LineageOS 15.1 (an Android ROM). linux_base-c7 is installed linux and linux64 loaded proc, fd, linprocfs and linsysfs mounted I managed to get it to about 85%, but it fails during the following call: java -Xms16M -Xmx2048M -jar /android/LOS/out/host/linux-x86/framework/dx.jar --dex --output=/android/LOS/out/target/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/core-libart_intermediates/with-local/ --min-sdk-version=27 --core-library /android/LOS/out/target/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/core-libart_intermediates/classes.jar If I use FreeBSD openjdk8, this command works, however part of the earlier build involves loading a linux library in the jvm, which fails with FreeBSD's openjdk With Ubuntu 16.04 openjdk I got several SIGSEGV. % kdump | grep -A3 -B3 SIGSEGV 53182 java RET linux_mmap2 34422685696/0x803c08000 53182 java CALL linux_mmap2(0x803c08000,0xa000,0x3,0x32,0xffffffffffffffff,0) 53182 java RET linux_mmap2 34422685696/0x803c08000 53182 java PSIG SIGSEGV caught handler=0x8026b8f40 mask=0x4 code=SEGV_MAPERR 53182 java CALL linux_rt_sigreturn(0) 53182 java RET linux_rt_sigreturn JUSTRETURN 53182 java CALL linux_clock_gettime(0x1,0x80072a9d0) -- 53182 java CALL linux_mprotect(0x800623000,0x1000,0x1) 53182 java RET linux_mprotect 0 53182 java CALL linux_mprotect(0x800623000,0x1000,0x3) 53182 java PSIG SIGSEGV caught handler=0x8026b8f40 mask=0x4 code= 53182 java RET linux_mprotect 0 53182 java CALL linux_mprotect(0x800622000,0x1000,0) 53182 java RET linux_mprotect 0 -- 53182 java CALL linux_mprotect(0x800623000,0x1000,0x1) 53182 java CALL linux_sys_futex(0x80400a854,0x80,0x8b,0,0x80400a800,0x45) 53182 java RET linux_mprotect 0 53182 java PSIG SIGSEGV caught handler=0x8026b8f40 mask=0x4 code= 53182 java CALL linux_sys_futex(0x8042b3d54,0x80,0x1,0,0x8042b3d00,0) 53182 java CALL linux_mprotect(0x800623000,0x1000,0x3) 53182 java RET linux_mprotect 0 -- 53182 java RET linux_clock_gettime 0 53182 java CALL gettimeofday(0x800728a70,0) 53182 java RET gettimeofday 0 53182 java PSIG SIGSEGV caught handler=0x8026b8f40 mask=0x4 code=SEGV_MAPERR 53182 java CALL gettimeofday(0x81a5c7510,0) 53182 java RET gettimeofday 0 53182 java CALL linux_clock_gettime(0x1,0x800729050) -- 53182 java RET linux_clock_gettime 0 53182 java CALL linux_mprotect(0x800623000,0x1000,0x1) 53182 java CALL linux_sys_futex(0x80417c654,0x80,0x17b,0,0x80417c600,0xbd) 53182 java PSIG SIGSEGV caught handler=0x8026b8f40 mask=0x4 code= 53182 java RET linux_mprotect 0 53182 java CALL linux_mprotect(0x800623000,0x1000,0x3) 53182 java RET linux_mprotect 0 -- 53182 java RET linux_clock_gettime 0 53182 java CALL linux_mprotect(0x84c3ef000,0x25000,0x3) 53182 java RET linux_mprotect 0 53182 java PSIG SIGSEGV caught handler=0x8026b8f40 mask=0x4 code=SEGV_MAPERR 53182 java CALL linux_clock_gettime(0x1,0x8007290e0) 53182 java RET linux_clock_gettime 0 53182 java CALL linux_rt_sigreturn(0) -- 53182 java CALL linux_clock_gettime(0x1,0x81a5c7a00) 53182 java RET linux_clock_gettime 0 53182 java CALL linux_mprotect(0x84c414000,0xa000,0x3) 53182 java PSIG SIGSEGV caught handler=0x8026b8f40 mask=0x4 code=SEGV_MAPERR 53182 java RET linux_mprotect 0 53182 java CALL linux_clock_gettime(0x1,0x800729060) 53182 java RET linux_clock_gettime 0 -- 53182 java RET linux_clock_gettime 0 53182 java CALL linux_clock_gettime(0x1,0x800729390) 53182 java RET linux_clock_gettime 0 53182 java PSIG SIGSEGV caught handler=0x8026b8f40 mask=0x4 code= 53182 java CALL linux_rt_sigprocmask(0x1,0x800729320,0,0x8) 53182 java RET linux_rt_sigprocmask 0 53182 java CALL linux_getcwd(0x802d449e0,0x7d0) I thought it might be related to security.bsd.map_at_zero, but setting it to 1 didn't change anything I would appreciate some guidance Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 7 18:57:27 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA531038DC2 for ; 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So I tried: mount_msdosfs /dev/da0a /mnt it squeals Invalid argument. Both /dev/da0 and /dev/da0a exist. What am I doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 8 19:31:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395B8FFBD9A for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 19:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.e.friedrich@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb31.google.com (mail-yb1-xb31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C91D675A21 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 19:31:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.e.friedrich@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb1-xb31.google.com with SMTP id c4-v6so6614450ybl.6 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 12:31:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=gazfMEq4G5Yc3Dujxcufi2yIXWXXgWe3jeuKfOcr+oQ=; b=MpH9oKHAkufu9RGTFWcY60I+KL/mblEjNrOkRAXLYPMYjSdNE0fcdCvv3/ZO3GUNyt LFKX6triPQRu6K5rkW/A9uyvZK2eTs4+2W5nOn/5jnq2ats8YP1YeZfc/b4cm4rfSd63 7wNc42C9XH2W8NYbE93QmChrCS6oqRMVAtWNA/zfEwdRumMf/qSw4AyE5RWiSOvsQqOV 1lpAA7Yt6rDDI6Y7DKkK3Q1xVg7G2aE7KkV+Sakb84B4s5sbe1N0BCTpgOdDqDUXI288 a9yBR+va0hUNA5AX+wPD8e08+/jaX/n3bE4uXFvKYcAbpP3kfLpMMk3h+u8fG/vnk0Yw Xp7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=gazfMEq4G5Yc3Dujxcufi2yIXWXXgWe3jeuKfOcr+oQ=; b=kCYdpU1uPvzlKYOgVbgCwLSknjyZ/zqj1i1+AEVeBJoon962NoY+9hf/6m1G6frvTk KBWwEpsvWUFRWQ2EfPP9AXrxQPCSRS16W4x0rt02vE9ZEljv00Hw41UmfxVSC/T6R5yF ZtFppx3zZSjc991B/IVJ/lroxAOWrztTIQFeH7wUCovH+AuC0aHLtdbs7UBOMFB0GmUe iX7ATwMKVepPzspTryRdKFklIq0PGe8ToQslgUpsRaj18P5l+WUZwKZNFr0x789mlQrl 5Jvbutp0zvXqZmlPcGfUMA/wsQe6No0JpfrSNbbwt7vZMQNHil1g2xoaTqQ3UOzmtjcc 6c/A== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BmRu5PyBq3Ka7CkCfqcs/sQ5YO5FuAAyzO7YVsCNukWsrE6fD4 iL2CKYnhjbDbEE6nHg6JSttnmIbHZMCW2mjIFakpifbm X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZEL+RuXsUN6Up+awnzpobaWukk9SItNYs+SDC3LG+qehHptisjDINrMa2N0xo+xnrENyBarfY9oB2Ss2uEqIM= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:c82:: with SMTP id i2-v6mr1347779ybq.457.1536435117075; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 12:31:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Friedrich Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 15:31:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: dri fails under X To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 19:31:58 -0000 During boot, I get: info: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 but there is no /dev/dri. Do I have to find a knob in an xorg config in ports to enable building in DRI support? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 8 19:36:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6653FFFBF90 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 19:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuripv@yuripv.net) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E29775C07 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 19:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuripv@yuripv.net) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E1F2102F; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 15:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 08 Sep 2018 15:36:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yuripv.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=OKFikeJ/eVQV+/y1rjGWZFwOsIVug 9LX2ieK8er8St8=; b=XVDKuw3lxqV9s+5L7woMElwxOeFzPPuNY1yp9cVA7HQSh euFRK0XZ5erqUGDgr23LHRBEYdwlfwVSLDiIU7KdmaRr8iSV9LGkcwibI3KZ+jtO JKmndze1iArdvDRpiOgY/01Wi1EaaISZ/2Y/nYYm09zvLmkfrdszmYQNTT4KWwvo 62XDw8Tcrekd9IQcozoR0D8AKBjK+2bahPIzYFdOAjlGs86ReaQiWNwEczXJSKTv 4duycxE10Ou8exxwDAiHn3i5klHZ77x3FiVWt9iXvnnCxKV1PGmqV9VNzR7KJ/rz PJg4OZ88Pdv/n86TZ85WFr4JavDbwK/YHMl/fMIcw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=OKFike J/eVQV+/y1rjGWZFwOsIVug9LX2ieK8er8St8=; b=rssvZvWdmVBe2kBg0nA9F6 0CGpXGu6rDE5ffppxeyjHvUZMKpLH0ROm83L2Vkjzpsp4v3JSVzo20scTF6NT1eL Xj10PyvAYRkpFSW+u9rNgUmnAi1VASspLfCJ51tKTytckhNlalhqx+uf8IInTKkN 4xWQnfddOF4RbTaOic4y551L3LwplXj6tvjhvb1wAXPfxm9yMR4hF+WCbmJpMIq8 +N1prV0T7fHgF0ljTwPsgB8e5LJNjYWKkquJiiC802Kc5u+W9I5p0lH/3vR067qz l2yu5G5NMAnbUVlE7l6jUMTJq2d30+qq8PCV9Z4iJCp4frUJhLsvOByjwiyxBbbg == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [62.183.126.215]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E69C71029B; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 15:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Can't mount thumb drive To: Steven Friedrich , FreeBSD Questions References: From: Yuri Pankov Message-ID: <7c6ad5e0-4e88-94a1-1bfb-796dc1d897e7@yuripv.net> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 22:36:18 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 19:36:25 -0000 Steven Friedrich wrote: > When I plug in my thumb drive (A Kingston Data Traveler 1G, FAT), dmesg > says: > > ugen0.5: at usbus0 > umass0 on uhub0 > umass0: on > usbus0 > umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0xc100 > umass0:7:0: Attached to scbus7 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus7 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI device > da0: Serial Number 0681F150A2929B60 > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers > da0: 980MB (2007040 512 byte sectors) > da0: quirks=0x3 > > but when I try to mount it using: > mount_msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt > > it squeals Invalid argument. > > So I tried: > mount_msdosfs /dev/da0a /mnt > it squeals Invalid argument. > > Both /dev/da0 and /dev/da0a exist. > > What am I doing wrong? You seem to be doing everything correctly, so it's possible something wrong with the FS itself. Check if you really have FAT there using: file -s /dev/da0 file -s /dev/da0a From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 8 19:42:17 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCF0FFC2B2 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 19:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd33.google.com (mail-io1-xd33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 843E675F8A for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 19:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd33.google.com with SMTP id l7-v6so4040424iok.6 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 12:42:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8/v0TEbjHEn6m5EHpXqC32P9lUCzk5BoT9VnyjEiPR4=; b=Mng7QTERLrYHilf2gPfQgtLn2YmLSH8cRTa9ovY8apEW816DR62QDWKVt1D4dVNKBY enFbe6pTkspBmtSBwSogQWnhxK1Vnc7yBWwgR5am5doGEuenI/9M0Y0jjmqYrO/ub5cf Jyp7Q6Mt99Xk2wM2vKEyGMAQapRO56BxNZb3RzUgUXR4NUKGV+IqUDL4lmSgRCMcE3sz P+14UI8x/nVcUHYihrxcWMWe4RwkqHmPNlX9u/dICp73gveSGg0a5kvylud2Ky2sQPp+ J4NJl5Fqp9Ix2CvmmqofLtNReMkwtUN7O6wJ0+P7FtBhW9ZFURQL8otdX3dUjJ5BWeXh zzMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8/v0TEbjHEn6m5EHpXqC32P9lUCzk5BoT9VnyjEiPR4=; b=Ok7nlURm3+z141XbhZuHdUOmAj2m+6SDYy8lBKjdrkZE3a3qDP/EEEUQCE2LfZxK9q +g+Cl0ZtjNK8FHHeca3JtIxYBBhpbUOtk4AN99uuuGFG2GzNtVh88u6vR8/1wHdHVqnb ar9yVvc5D8Vz33naN4ejwBNOwU8rzTlVCLiUI/Xt7oXJl33D1R9GGwKFfNwPzTIWT+H7 NvxB+EwkznOVCsxfdZU8nV9TqZgfA/RGiV4wPmdvOH4Z6etlRp/K02Hi91NtPGzrv8O2 tiaw66ozZwhM2g8t435j/cA8qL/a7WS/Bk+FFsEPIzs/IE+oB66EUAFDRmKD7+VBzOAg kkiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CugvM9M34a79b3q29mDJNQ8cWrdxfZ3Qq56Zn5qWHMh5fvI7Ml ZcM6j5mqaloVx0/h/9om/y+St75o X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZx++cH5CWvzCMfT9+3YQVvyORpDI34vR86U5ApgYN1O47kBnNJsrofmUOuia3JPAOwGUBYYA== X-Received: by 2002:a6b:7d48:: with SMTP id d8-v6mr12221541ioq.100.1536435735975; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 12:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.7] (cpe-65-25-48-31.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.48.31]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e5-v6sm1461824itf.0.2018.09.08.12.42.14 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Sep 2018 12:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5B942616.3010605@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 15:42:14 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Friedrich CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Can't mount thumb drive References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 19:42:17 -0000 Steven Friedrich wrote: > When I plug in my thumb drive (A Kingston Data Traveler 1G, FAT), dmesg > says: > > ugen0.5: at usbus0 > umass0 on uhub0 > umass0: on > usbus0 > umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0xc100 > umass0:7:0: Attached to scbus7 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus7 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI device > da0: Serial Number 0681F150A2929B60 > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers > da0: 980MB (2007040 512 byte sectors) > da0: quirks=0x3 > > but when I try to mount it using: > mount_msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt > > it squeals Invalid argument. > > So I tried: > mount_msdosfs /dev/da0a /mnt > it squeals Invalid argument. > > Both /dev/da0 and /dev/da0a exist. > > What am I doing wrong? That "Invalid argument" message generally means the thumb drive is not formated at all or is formated for NT and not msdos. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 8 20:29:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6DFFFD1FB for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 20:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.e.friedrich@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb32.google.com (mail-yb1-xb32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1C15771DD for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 20:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.e.friedrich@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb1-xb32.google.com with SMTP id o17-v6so6647721yba.2 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 13:29:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=VwquK3bwtqi51+5SxxPwisoT+IiH6C3PbGwIflWy5F0=; b=oRTjN5FZfSS4ioOPnqxzXBCBCdbxrX5BcaoZjh7RKHN6fo/9i8DEZEI9+KyKlKmVwP BEe1m/OA15k+kqi53q7hexj0nrhmFonir6IYKH2QTZBoYgXo9B/8H7uuJvs1zwpUbGUt U9GlIj4qgvu6IRolj+T1gmpNwaEAEjveBwH9fF8mcOZlDr8Zu9CmzxBffPGYglNMZ6R2 /YyTN7mAroCEhbgcXT012G216dDHijcWzRMJQCYmmPkiX30uDgM72QR+0OYj40Gd8T+C cy7K0cMtq1hu7IJFp15uJOSdd/ULU19v3hYPFc7TYUmJ53Hy39oJBIubJ+pCwdK6WLeL /hqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=VwquK3bwtqi51+5SxxPwisoT+IiH6C3PbGwIflWy5F0=; b=e05BdwCsvTvUdmCwNXoNZSTLPIsEhd727/Xew7djnpSWcR4TH6HZV6BBNe2/Oxaaus qnQxHN1V8e1wtlvrMiNmkBwxd7M98w375cAePg0XGSk26gTxUNZ2YKSIfOqRR2omqofZ Fb0FE0nOzXpXaU7mkPgbyPx9uev7cczWjeuhMup/PMCNEzN8CMk98qJPxsDSYiB+OO0G v6oPRfW9HtAcqezKso1XjvT4iGbSieuZCTidSI9rr7gaYJrvy0/DPcWX9QaZBNEjAaye yOqssfWY0NT6WZv80E5NLUSDGbRbKyh3Nv7DQ5YhZGIH5+/Yf/qlSe9HHODPZi09TgPh 4NUw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51Dx2eeREjNYMXOQzrlisPJHy6+oFhcZnTBAnBiUqt73yBEF+Jcj acGr35DOdeM+3Dqrk5zagNVUyWQpksOigUmYTjqxqg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdaMW+mFkydQfNKI43aNTQVpePfKY8urzB7Wo+qA7yRSBXSctA40CwPAQtlwvUh+zubl3C68l1QBgyzLQM6AQ4Q= X-Received: by 2002:a25:2c03:: with SMTP id s3-v6mr6916656ybs.378.1536438578959; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 13:29:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5B942616.3010605@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5B942616.3010605@gmail.com> From: Steven Friedrich Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 16:29:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Can't mount thumb drive To: luzar722@gmail.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 20:29:40 -0000 Thanks. I had long ago created a BSD volume on it, so I destroyed it with gpart destroy -F /dev/da0 then gpart create -s mbr /dev/da0 Win 10 STILL wouldn't format it so I used windows volume manager to create and format a FAT partition. I can now mount it and copy stuff to it. Thanks. On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 3:42 PM Ernie Luzar wrote: > Steven Friedrich wrote: > > When I plug in my thumb drive (A Kingston Data Traveler 1G, FAT), dmesg > > says: > > > > ugen0.5: at usbus0 > > umass0 on uhub0 > > umass0: on > > usbus0 > > umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0xc100 > > umass0:7:0: Attached to scbus7 > > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus7 target 0 lun 0 > > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI device > > da0: Serial Number 0681F150A2929B60 > > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers > > da0: 980MB (2007040 512 byte sectors) > > da0: quirks=0x3 > > > > but when I try to mount it using: > > mount_msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt > > > > it squeals Invalid argument. > > > > So I tried: > > mount_msdosfs /dev/da0a /mnt > > it squeals Invalid argument. > > > > Both /dev/da0 and /dev/da0a exist. > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > That "Invalid argument" message generally means the thumb drive is not > formated at all or is formated for NT and not msdos. > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 8 21:33:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0073FFEE59 for ; 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Simply I didn't read there were also USB images. I = found them now and I'll try. Bye. Arrivederci Lorenzo. Ottieni Outlook per Android ________________________________ From: Polytropon Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 10:39:36 PM To: Simone N Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall on Laptop (Dell Inspiron 7537) On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 18:45:33 +0000, Simone N wrote: > i can't install FreeBSD on a Laptop without floppy and CD support. This seems to be pretty normal for today's laptops - floppy drives have gone decades ago, and optical media also isn't provided generally. :-) > If i make the boot with an external CD drive, after booting the kernel, > it semms some conflict with usb port > > It give me the messages: > > "uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished" > > uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished > > uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset:device vanished > > continuosly [...] Yes, this indicates a problem with USB, but it can be from the laptop as well as from the optical drive. Can you try a different drive, as well as a different USB port? > [...] also after did the installation in the OS environment. This is the only piece of text I don't understand, sorry. :-) > Is > there a way to install the OS on my Laptop ? There are basically two ways: 1. Download the USB image and write it to a USB stick. Boot from that USB stick - the laptop will have a boot sequence configured in the CMOS setup, so check if it will try to boot from USB, or use the boot media menu (usually PF12) to select USB when the system starts. 2. Remove the hard disk from the system and use a USB<->disk adapter to install FreeBSD to the disk, then put it back into the laptop and have it boot. Perform all further configurations with that installed OS. I'd suggest you try the 1st way first - it's also a way to verify your USB connection on the laptop is working properly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...