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Date:      Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:04:26 -0400
From:      Makketron <>
To:        Shane Ambler <>
Cc:        Alejandro Imass <>,
Subject:   Re: [OT] Is the IT Crowd re-inventing Unix with Virtualization, Docker and Microservices?
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In-Reply-To: <6082af1c-1ea4-7180-9621-cc539e8131b2@ShaneWare.Biz>
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This is exactly why people get puzzled when they see a person in the team
making a solution over a weekend, with no cost, instead of weeks.

The irony is, they consider it a temporary solution, a hack so to speak,
until fancier tools are used.

Even funnier, when the switch happens, the tools tend to have higher
downtime than a simple UNIX solution.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 12:16 AM Shane Ambler <> wrote:

> On 12/9/18 4:40 am, Alejandro Imass wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I guess it's time for another food for thought email of like-minded
> > FreeBSDers, as I am coming to a new conclusion about this whole
> enterprise
> > crap world of which I am so evermore fed up of...
> >
> > Oh yeah, that's right, high-level guys are too expensive? really?
> compared
> > to what? to the dozens and dozens of mediocre "coders", "devops",
> > "techops"and whatever other "ops". Yeah, we are way more expensive but we
> > are 50:1, maybe 100:1 compared the median in the "enterprise" side of
> > things.
> Good tech guys who know what to do don't use enough new fancy tech. It's
> all about the buzzwords, the more your product uses the more money you
> get to build it. The more layers, the more complex, the more people dumb
> CEOs need to pay to setup and maintain it, but it has to be using the
> newest, flashiest tech. If you have used the stuff before you need to go
> and make a new one or two for the next project. One good guy can't
> support an enterprise, it needs to be a group of dimwits that band
> together and cover each others f*ups to support an enterprise.
> I recall the Y2K bug, a well known telco employed about 80 people to
> walk around to every desktop computer and manually run some script off a
> server that checked installed programs and updated each one.
> Well this telco has software installed on every desktop that allowed one
> person to access every machine in the country, show reports of software
> and versions installed, install, update or remotely control the GUI
> desktop. The team I was on completed our two months work the first week,
> so we got to use this to manually do the stupid steps on machines in
> other states, after someone there had walked around to turn machines on.
> It was all about one guy coming up with something that sounded complex
> enough that the CEO can't understand but had enough buzzwords and parts
> that it must be the solution to this dreaded Y2K problem.
> --
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> Shane Ambler
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