Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:19:53 +0200 From: Antoine BRUNEL <antoinebrunel@yahoo.fr> To: Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, Rob Lytle <jan6146@gmail.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years / sorry I started flame war Message-ID: <486D5089.6000900@yahoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <20080703215537.6F3114504E@ptavv.es.net> References: <20080703215537.6F3114504E@ptavv.es.net>
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Hi all I suggest this "flame" to stop right now... because everybody is ok finally.... I agree with Rob in the fact that 'sysinstall' is a bit disturbing tool with its way of working: the "enter" key, the error messages if HTTP source is unavailable, etc.... and I confess I had to re-install my laptop 3 or 4 times before getting what I wanted from sysinstall. Maybe this tool should be upgraded, but I think it should not follow the way other installerd did.... somebody spokes about the Oracle installer... It was a real hell for you: how to install an Oracle database onto an HP 7 inch terminal, without X and/or Java installed ?? I hope FreeBSD will never get way, like Windows or Linux.... How about to give a try at the actual Debian ncurse installer ??? still in text based environment, but very powerful .... Kevin Oberman a écrit : >> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:28:50 -0700 >> From: "Rob Lytle" <jan6146@gmail.com> >> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org >> >> Hi All, >> >> I'm sorry I started a kind of flame war. All I wanted was two things: 1. >> CD's that installed without being switched in and out dozens of times. That >> was fixed by the suggestion of using a DVD. I didn't even know the DVD >> install existed, but will do that next time. >> > > You call this a flame war? It's been pretty civil and there are no scorch > marks on my display. > > I agree that the disk swapping is not a good thing, but I simply avoid > it by never installing packages from sysinstall. I only use sysinstall > for FreeBSD. > > Once I have FreeBSD installed, I update my ports tree with csup (but > portsnap is probably a better way) and install ruby and > portupgrade. Then I simply install the ports/packages I want using > 'portinstall -P'. This assures that I have the latest ports and not > something stale. I can speed the process by copying all of the packages > from CD to my system (/usr/ports/packages/All). That way, only ports > that have been updated since the release will be downloaded and I only > have to change CDs a couple of times. > > > >> 2. Being able to use Sysinstall and not having it crash when a dependency >> is already present. Sometimes I like to use Sysinstall to install gigantic >> packages where the compile time is 26 hours, e.g KDE metapackage, and my >> notebook uses an Intel Core 2 Duo at 2Ghz or thereabout. That is one hell >> of a long compile time. For this request I will just have to wait for >> FreeBSD 10.0. >> > > I have not seen this, but I don't sue sysinstall to install > packages/ports. >
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