From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 13 04:28:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF6510AE10B for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 04:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25B6187069 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 04:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.36.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MbizQ-1ffz6d0Egg-00dJEG; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 06:23:21 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.36.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MbizQ-1ffz6d0Egg-00dJEG; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 06:23:21 +0200 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 06:23:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: RW Cc: RW via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: freebsd packages going the debian way! Message-Id: <20181013062320.74a41dc2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20181012221107.58e93643@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20181012174553.ef4e8faf.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181012221107.58e93643@gumby.homeunix.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:UZD26uh7JvUSbfxPH98JEcM5QtMCa5xXwDEUVBTTsl5NGCO/Bu8 +HAIfjzZSYdmXex5Sb0Zqax1Dl5+VNe/tHxeV1kRlcXUNRJpXZtdmTt+Vb7+wI4YHHo9BaF 0jQyQmy8joZgyvZVgrXpiNy4NXBf76v529puxyoKokkd9HuJIXR1381IK2FdxUTya8m37cl 6xPn6WpYj24W4QHMzUIrw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:gSXxOgHr9XI=:zMb/9tAiiZTBRYOKuqdusT 6G+1g9kXe9npmdoV3XuYAwHjPYjg4nH3KP5oLFwVxaBIN5eqbGHCL+cM16zkoTc6MOhokLDzL edHSAdT7tqbYoqfpBVTqDHD2+Ai8maX193Gg2b5JlMK1AqhSZHT2Z2DkH0oIQ1vFujnCyQj6I slSOiHFqphTfb0vcPnX7bcXBuQs2Kh/fd10Cls975+HPZQm+je9eqqC/bbGhlXMM7SFjl1Mzx PFq8CqNoQFjX/x1ZC5FKNJfpzkibBavmJA9E714aggefSdGJZjeXx8uNbrcZOQQMLjqBkmxny T1xZBcnVejpLa1BdX39vRw1Lh6FaScZKTSa9FGYUmVwCptke1+j0G3wZwGaTuTjZuHqJ2Wd6e 7VImb4riFc9Rxde6drTrzr32WmWVYVTusOve7ZVIgGBqxGy9ZRQj7ltcPXjMmYcB4uAcBoshj ED+GSPdBMS5k/eeGwfinGUBc9fHlPcv1jtgEtiqHLgmPsrB5Dy/I4+jhuMLTTk3Q1fffcuzTc octqwuoq31y63EO6kXuu3PsGMmvkUktCTCRPjw0B7BPu+LgeumJE9qWvepHemjyletf9WtN0q jaWkhzaKMS5TORqE0b41ugsqIYFnOyMgzrZechMU59thT97YV5Cnf8N3xnnSPkDZl8PG8PhM0 1gS5l6ggZEv6IQxbgs9z8EcCKJs3ViTbjELXTC0+iOVor8wMz7Dh3sl4ZA1UnmY5RrSeZCSJx Zv/frZ9RvU5YhnRO X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 04:28:46 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 22:11:07 +0100, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:45:53 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:42:37 +0000, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > > i have been tinkering around with mailing system options under > > > freebsd and have found most of the options are dependent on entire > > > unnecessary bloated external components. > > > eg.; > > > - fetchmail depends on python, why? > > > > I think because of the fetchmailconf X11 tool, that one > > actually requires Python - fetchmail itself doesn't. So > > in this case, you are much better _not_ using the package > > (where the default building options don't fit your needs > > or expectations), and go with "make configure", select > > only the stuff that you _actually_ want, and then run > > "make install". > > It's strange, the python dependency seems to be unconditional when I > would have expected it to be conditional on the X11 option (which is off > by default). This may be a mistake. If it really is, I suspect a typical case of the "documentation does not match reality" Linuxism, as well as "let's just include everything" Linuxism. ;-) > > > - nmh depends on curl and libhttp, why? > > > > Seems to be something new. Older versions didn't need it. > > Seems to be for OAUTH authentication, currently just for sending though > gmail by the look of it. Maybe because "Google Mail is now the standard" it was decided to include it by default. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...