From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 22 09:50:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6F9106566B for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marshc187@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2D98FC19 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marshc187@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1282759fgb.35 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:50:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9UFP9yBh+FUr1WfXE/oepVsEmXwlIIDyRPCVsqIfBRo=; b=ml2Iyz2r2fN27gw/72BC22+H48sWhHfiZG5zeOEB/negjDTpyLZp9oAXA+JrhDXFr+ n2NRI2nMGxjcQwT5g0fJy+Hp1YlDrXPz0VA/lhSG50oSET8thv7zyB2SvIwCx8EJV8+O kyDwja46UNHcWhpbgrfqAwk1rt4I2cOFBv7Vc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mirmUybyKPJWB50gXE54UegD/a8HYaDEkYSxjAbdpxJFHapMDdkJVwvrpWhiytEpHr 3A6jTgHhQtGKB64TU1fWUvvkQ7YMfOocYERXM7Copqk7PhYbWacCPulj0o0IHiswB9eF 2AQco2UjiuaIntcMAls6wfCTtETb9WrGcqDsU= Received: by 10.86.70.3 with SMTP id s3mr4570279fga.51.1222077038235; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.100? ([195.158.85.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm6040658fga.5.2008.09.22.02.50.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48D76A4D.2050208@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:50:05 +0200 From: marshc User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <467.10023.qm@web110506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <48D63C45.3080102@gmail.com> <1222058661.4625.24.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1222058661.4625.24.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Audio Production X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:50:40 -0000 > > I've just been following this thread and have remained silent until now, > but the linux kernel from my experience is nowhere near as stable or as > fast as the freebsd kernel. Another cool feature is you can build your > own kernel, stripping out anything unnecessary and including any > optimisations that you think will help. > Well thanks, because this was part of my original question. All I know is that you can modify GENERIC for a custom kernel and i can remove what hardware i don't need there, and add ext3fs and vesa, and was asking whether there were other settings elsewhere to tweak, but i am begining to think it would involve diving into the actual kernel source code, and other such sinister hacking. I'm using studio64 now and will eventually research a little what it involves, but i had just asked here to find out if there were any similar project or groups doing that sort of stuff on fbsd. so at this point all i can ask is, are there other more in depth settings somewhere? or should i forget about it? i have almost concluded it is the latter. > I think jack is still possible on freebsd too (correct me if I'm wrong), > so all in all I think your latency will not be as much of a problem on > bsd as it was on linux. > > jack is available on fsbd, yes. on my earlier post however, i was rushing a reply before going out and was trying to cover too much at once, and don't think i explained myself properly. I was trying to recap on my original question and explain the whole purpose of what i was looking for, since i still am not entirely clear till now. I was also trying to explain some basic areas, thinking maybe it would also reach some _NON_-audio consious, fsbd expert that might have some ideas, shed some light and point in the some direction. I mean i am not really a latency freak, and not my main concern. It is an unavoidable factor in audio production, something you live with and can manage on way or the other, and i was mentioning it trying to get to the big picture. That is , more or less, that latency is an issue, but you can work with, and what you really want is a computer that is basically always ready for your orders and request, individed and at the drop of a dime - " play this out there. that out that, record this part, write it to disk, mix that,,,, i don't care how, just do it and don't interrupt me". > I'm only just getting into this area myself, but I've been using freebsd > for a while now and I'm extremely happy with it (bar some driver issues, > particularly in multimedia- tv cards, etc- which may be rectified > natively very soon, or using the linux support in the kernel). The > multimedia list will be very helpful to you I'd say, and swapping notes > is always good. > > Good luck. > > I am very new outside windows and been on holidays spending alot of time getting familiar with freebsd as an OS, not audio, but it is an issue eventually. I wanted to know if it worth investing my time in it with those future plans in sight, or if i should make like a band aid and settle on ubuntu studio64 now. Like you mentioned, i was very happy with it as an os, but i had some basic performance issues and couldn't make out why. I am pretty sure it was due to my setup and lack of knowledge, basic settings/configs somewhere, but wanted to know if fbsd could be further optimized with those issues solved. dunno, this is ubuntu studio64 now and i have come to like it very mucch. it is well build; but think i would switch to fbsd at the drop of a hat given the choice. I respect the fact that most pro/long time users of fbsd would be network/server oriented, and you can't match fbsd there, but i also think the bigger the community, the more likely new faces, new groups, new projects. p.s. i haven't used jack much yet, but have known about it for a while, and going on specs and capabilities, it should be the better system. It is like windows ASIO and Rewire into one package. From what i heard it can route any signal between any running audio program, even if they are not normally aware of eachother, or build with that capability. good luck to you too,