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On Thursday 17 July 2008 12:30:17 pm Randy Bush wrote:
> > I think the best route to that is to have a separate utility for managing
> > disk partitioning.  The installer can then use that utility, and
> > sysadmins can also use it later after the system is installed.
>
> i often invoke sysinstall on a running system to slice/partition/etc a
> new drive

Yes, I have found it nicer than raw bsdlabel in the past, but I think it 
should be a standalone tool (diskpart or some such) that manages that and 
that the installer should use that tool rather than the installer having a 
disk partitioning sub-personality.

-- 
John Baldwin