From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 00:12:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B19C106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3178FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB60BjPs051955 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:11:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:12:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:12:25 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091206001222.GA49434@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: is there a newer write up on BIND than '04? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:12:30 -0000 Anybody know if there is a new FBSD writeup on BIND than what is listed near the top in google's output? Seems like the folks at ISC changed the bind/named stuff from /etc to /var sometime after 2005. gary PS: I'll share everything I have/am still learning when my old -> new server migration is done... . -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 00:39:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382FB106568B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 744AE8FC24 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24003 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2009 00:36:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.186.233) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Dec 2009 00:36:40 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D696D1715D; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:39:03 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:39:03 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091206003903.GA31929@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: tcsh backtick/quote bug on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:39:08 -0000 Hi, I just stumbled across a bug in the version of tcsh supplied with FreeBSD 7.2. $ uname -a FreeBSD blizzard.phoenix 7.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Oct 2 12:21:39 UTC 2009 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $ which tcsh /bin/tcsh $ tcsh --version tcsh 6.15.00 (Astron) 2007-03-03 (i386-intel-FreeBSD) options wide,nls,dl,al,kan,sm,rh,color,filec $ tcsh -f > "`" Unmatched `. Segmentation fault (core dumped) $ Regular tcsh isn't in the ports tree, although there is a modified version called tcsh-bofh. It's apparently based on an older version of tcsh and is not vulnerable. $ /usr/local/bin/tcsh --version tcsh 6.12.00 (Astron) 2002-07-23 (i386-intel-FreeBSD) options 8b,nls,dl,al,rh,color,filec $ /usr/local/bin/tcsh -f > "`" Unmatched `. > Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 02:09:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE911065670 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 02:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (fed1rmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.241.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB5E8FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 02:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091206020954.LXFC26719.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:09:54 -0500 Received: from asus64 ([72.220.91.251]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id De9t1d0085RPd3403e9tRp; Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:09:53 -0500 X-VR-Score: -200.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=QnsHyrXODU/M8PFHjoaSY8vWw/wnc68pWh1cXI7OZ58= c=1 sm=1 a=4ShOpzFsRpcA:10 a=aQKPT3jRvjwCBEVvbLbxkw==:17 a=zGILaCQj9k7eQyJPSwQA:9 a=iuzszwEeLVkjeQuo48IA:7 a=MEbIiz_5khh1w3NkQhtqAC7Af2EA:4 a=aQKPT3jRvjwCBEVvbLbxkw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:09:48 -0800 From: Robert To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20091205180948.2ccbd584@asus64> In-Reply-To: <20091129215653.GA65322@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091128090544.GA80636@thought.org> <20091129214307.1f536190@arcor.de> <20091129215653.GA65322@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.3; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , Philipp Lengemann , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i automate building packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:09:54 -0000 On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:56:53 +0100 Roland Smith wrote: > > Now that my desktop and laptop are both running 8.0, I build ports on > my (faster) desktop, and then rsync /usr/local to the laptop. Works > fine. Of course my laptop now has some apps on it that it doesn't > really need, but on the other hand I have been able to > remove /usr/ports, /var/db/ports and /var/db/pkg from the laptop. > This is a lot easier than creating packages and updating them on > another machine. > > Roland Hi Roland I really like this idea. I checked your website but didn't find any more detail with regards to this. Are you doing this from crontab, script or just on the command line? I personally want to thank you for all of your helpful posts. Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 04:56:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14F2106568D for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 04:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikes@siralan.org) Received: from arvo.suso.org (arvo.suso.org [66.244.94.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B428FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 04:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-69-136-3-251.hsd1.in.comcast.net (c-69-136-3-251.hsd1.in.comcast.net [69.136.3.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by arvo.suso.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB6F88067; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 04:56:44 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 23:56:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael L. Squires" X-X-Sender: mikes@familysquires.net To: George Hartzell In-Reply-To: <19226.41322.433809.431984@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <20091205234927.U16856@familysquires.net> References: <015b01ca751e$02b58680$08209380$@rr.com> <4B197F38.4040008@gmail.com> <002701ca7537$0cb8a900$2629fb00$@rr.com> <20091204210840.W81190@familysquires.net> <6201873e0912042031r5d8290c5wc1bd903b9e0df367@mail.gmail.com> <19226.41322.433809.431984@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Adam Vande More , Free BSD Questions list , Paul Schmehl Subject: Re: Xorg - no mouse and no keyboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:56:46 -0000 I had similar problems with the mouse and keyboard when Xorg 7.4 first came out. I had upgraded to 7.X from 6.X by cvsup/compile/install process, and then did a portupgrade. After the portupgrade neither my Xinerama setup, the mouse, nor the keybord worked. There was an interim fix which involved turning off the new option in xorg.conf so you could revert to moused since there was a bug, as I remember, in the intial Xorg/hal/dbus ports. This was eventually solved and since then I have been using hal/dbus. A search of this mailing list and the freebsd-x11 mailing list looking for messages referring to "mouse" and "7.4" should turn up the old solution. My system uses a PS2 mouse and PS2 keyboard (actually, a real PS2 keyboard) so it may be enough different from others so that my solution isn't applicable elsewhere. Mike Squires From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 05:19:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD0C106568B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (pool-98-108-131-11.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [98.108.131.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B988FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by sopwith.solgatos.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id B4235B64F; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id DAA25727; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 03:24:57 GMT Message-Id: <200912060324.DAA25727@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:24:57 PST From: Dieter Subject: 8.0 dmesg output is mangled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:19:15 -0000 Updating an amd64 box from 7.1 to 8.0. Console is RS-232. Check to see if any disk names have changed: dmesg | grep ^ad looks reasonable. added siis_load="YES" to loader.conf and rebooted dmesg | grep siis gives output that doesn't look right at all: siis0: port 0x7c00-0x7c7f mem 0xfe6ff000-0xfe6ff07f,0 xfe6f8000-0xfe6fbfff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci4 siis0: [ITHREAD] siisch0: at channel 0 on siis0 siisch0: [ITHREAD] siisch1: at channel 1 on siis0 siisch1: [ITHREAD] ad2: 305245MB at ata1-master UDMA100(aprobe0:siisch0: 0:15:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 (aprobe0:siisch0:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ad10: 1907729MB at ata5-master SATA300(aprobe 1:siisch1:0:15:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ad14: 953869MB at ata7-master SATA300(aprobe0:siisch1 :0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ada0 at siisch0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 ada1 at siisch1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 The Samsung disk is connected to a JMB363 controller, not the SiI 3132. The SiI 3132 has a Hitachi and a Seagate. dmesg | grep ^ada ada0 at siisch0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada0: Native Command Queueing enabled ada1 at siisch1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers ada1: 1430799MB (2930277168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada1: Native Command Queueing enabled This looks reasonable except for a 1 TB and a 1.5 TB drive having the same number of heads, sectors/track and cylinders. (not that those numbers are meaningful with recent disks) I'm thinking that perhaps the outputs from ata(4) and siis(4) are getting jumbled together like two processes writing to the same tty? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 06:21:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D8A106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224678FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1C0017D4813 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:21:07 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgtEAKPbGktV44PPPGdsb2JhbACBS5dDglQBAQEBN7gwhDMEhWw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,349,1257116400"; d="scan'208";a="11948148" Received: from c-cf83e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO lazlar.kicks-ass.net) ([85.227.131.207]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 06 Dec 2009 07:21:06 +0100 Message-ID: <4B1B4D51.3050906@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:21:05 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sagara Wijetunga References: <4B18CD57.5090108@tomahawk.com.sg> <20091204193219.GA84026@dan.emsphone.com> <4B19EC94.8040901@tomahawk.com.sg> <4B19FFDE.2010709@tomahawk.com.sg> <20091205072615.GI4955@comcast.net> <4B1A20E6.7070300@tomahawk.com.sg> In-Reply-To: <4B1A20E6.7070300@tomahawk.com.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: malformed man pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:21:09 -0000 Sagara Wijetunga wrote: > Charlie Kester wrote: >> On Fri 04 Dec 2009 at 22:38:22 PST Sagara Wijetunga wrote: >>> Michael Powell wrote: >>>> Sagara Wijetunga wrote: >>>> >>>> [snip] >>>>> We use /usr/bin/less from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/less, the >>>>> less-382.tar.gz, unpatched. >>>> >>>> Why? >>>>> Does the less need to be patched in FreeBSD? If so, is there such a >>>>> patch exist? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Uhmm, this may sound a little strange, but why not use the one >>>> included as part of the system? In other words, there was no need to >>>> 'install' less. Remove whatever you installed and use the right one. >>>> It even has a man page, e.g., man less and you will see a man page >>>> for the included one unless you've made a total mess of your man pages. >>>> >>>> I suspect there may be a possibility of bringing "Linuxisms" to your >>>> approach to FreeBSD. While there may be some amount of crossover, >>>> FreeBSD is not Linux. Learn FreeBSD as if it were new to you and >>>> leave the Linuxisms aside. >>>> >>>> -Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> In Tomahawk Desktop, we try to make as much as possible all >>> components of the OS are separately installable by the user, >>> therefore, all components are separately upgradeable. We have a >>> really running well OS based on FreeBSD sources though there are some >>> hopefully minor issues to be resolved. We are about to release the OS >>> for developer preview. >> >> In other words, you're only using the kernel from FreeBSD, but replacing >> all or most of the userland stuff with your own versions? Not only the >> stuff in /usr/local/bin but also stuff in /usr/bin? >> >> As Michael said, that's a Linuxism. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Yes, mostly we use FreeBSD kernel and libs. Almost everything else is > installed separately, eg. gcc, binutils, etc. are patched and installed > under package users. We have so far installed about 550 packages, > FreeBSD is just one of them. You can list what is installed from FreeBSD > by running listpkg -s freebsd, -s is to get a sorted output. > > But we still use a smaller number of FreeBSD userland stuff for the > moment but the objective is to drop that also in our future versions and > replace them with proper packages from original projects. > > You may call it Linuxism but we have produced an user upgradeable > system, our users do not have wait till ports are ready, eg, Qt 4.6 is > not ready on FreeBSD ports tree, we are releasing Tomahawk Desktop with > Qt 4.6, OpenVG, etc. To install KDE 4.4, you just download the sources > and compile, that's all. We are not 100% ready but we are at least 99% > there. Hopefully many may appreciate our efforts. > > Regards > Sagara > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > So basically you're trying to create a GNU/FreeBSD (GNU OS with a FreeBSD kernel, analogously to GNU/Linux being GNU OS with a Linux kernel)? Why not just stick with Linux? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 06:35:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0519106566C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from CPSMTPM-EML106.kpnxchange.com (Cpsmtpm-eml106.kpnxchange.com [195.121.3.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4116E8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.132.35]) by CPSMTPM-EML106.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:35:40 +0100 Received: from Alex1.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB66ZeOw007080 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:35:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex1.lan (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id nB66Zelx007079 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:35:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: Alex1.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:35:40 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091206063540.GA1562@Alex1.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2009 06:35:40.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[5459ED70:01CA763E] Subject: [8.0] GEOM: ad0: geometry does not match label (225h, 63s != 16h63s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:35:43 -0000 Hi, Way back it was very hard to install FreeBSD on this computer, do to sysinstall tendency to keep changing the hard disk settings. Since then I've bin very reluctant to reinstall FreeBSD. Upgrading FreeBSD was easy, until now. The FreeBSD 8.0 kernel says and refuces to boot. GEOM: ad0: geometry does not match label (225h,63s != 16h63s) Sysinstall (with 7.2) says: A geometry of 484521/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect. Using a more likely geometry. The next screen says: DISK Geometry: 30401 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 488392065 sectors (238472MB) > fdisk ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 09:02:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2F5106568B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alvin@blueberrytelecom.com) Received: from xsmtp04.mail2web.com (xsmtp04.mail2web.com [168.144.250.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E878FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.5.2.17] (helo=xmail07.myhosting.com) by xsmtp04.mail2web.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NHCTx-0003fu-Kn for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:28:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 616 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2009 08:28:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Alvin-PC.blueberrytelecom.com) (Authenticated-user:_alvin@blueberrytelecom.com@[116.87.149.28]) (envelope-sender ) by xmail07.myhosting.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with ESMTPA for ; 6 Dec 2009 08:28:38 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:28:32 +0800 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Alvin Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: hptrr: no controller detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:02:28 -0000 Dear FreeBSD.org, I'm Alvin from Blueberry Telecom. If you don't mind can i ask some question to you. FreeBSD is first time for me. Now I have to upgrade urgently. Now we are running FreeBSD 6.0 on Compaq DL 380 and Our Portaone Billing 100 application running on these servers. Now we have to upgrade FreeBSD 6.4 and we also need to upgrade our Our Portaone Billing 100 application. So we try to buy Sun X4170 and X2270. When I test to run FreeBSD 6.4 on that 2 servers after installation i got this error. hptrr: no controller detected Pls kindly let me know how to solve this issue. Thanks & Regards Alvin Network Engineer Co.Regn no: 200815528M No.1 Claymore Dr. #25-02 Orchard Towers (Rear Blk) Singapore 229594 Mobile: + 65 90687072 MSN: alvin@blueberrytelecom.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 09:23:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BD1106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E07E8FC17 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB69N3tK004241; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:23:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2EF9BB850; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:23:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:23:03 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Robert Message-ID: <20091206092303.GA78936@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091128090544.GA80636@thought.org> <20091129214307.1f536190@arcor.de> <20091129215653.GA65322@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091205180948.2ccbd584@asus64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091205180948.2ccbd584@asus64> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Gary Kline , Philipp Lengemann , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i automate building packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:23:08 -0000 --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 06:09:48PM -0800, Robert wrote: > On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:56:53 +0100 > Roland Smith wrote: > > > Now that my desktop and laptop are both running 8.0, I build ports on > > my (faster) desktop, and then rsync /usr/local to the laptop. Works > > fine. Of course my laptop now has some apps on it that it doesn't > > really need, but on the other hand I have been able to > > remove /usr/ports, /var/db/ports and /var/db/pkg from the laptop. > > This is a lot easier than creating packages and updating them on > > another machine. > > I really like this idea. I checked your website but didn't find any > more detail with regards to this. Oops. Fixed that. =20 > Are you doing this from crontab, script or just on the command line? Since my laptop isn't hooked up to my network permanently, I just do the update from the command line. Here is what I do; * On the desktop, I make sure that all ports are up to date; - 'portsnap fetch update' - 'portmaster -a -B -d' * hook up the laptop to the wired network, with the hostname 'laptop' (names and IPs hardwired in /etc/hosts on both machines to keep things si= mple). * start 'rsync --daemon' on the laptop. The laptop has the following in rsyncd.conf:=20 [local] path =3D /usr/local comment =3D usr/local directory tree uid =3D root gid =3D wheel read only =3D false * synchronize all ports to the laptop with the following command on the bui= ld machine; 'rsync -av --delete /usr/local/ laptop::local' > I personally want to thank you for all of your helpful posts.=20 You're welcome. It's nice to be appreciated. :-) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksbd/cACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWLQgCePK3p+1SOYlhkBZwvA3/NSJAB nHAAn0byWBbfYBI4cS3m0t5YMoVxmSc+ =7HF9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 10:22:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9435F106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from ostracod.unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D8B8FC21 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.local ([10.0.0.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by ostracod.unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB6AMqXN050468 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:22:53 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B1B85D6.9080107@unsane.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:22:15 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20091206001222.GA49434@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20091206001222.GA49434@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a newer write up on BIND than '04? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:22:16 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Anybody know if there is a new FBSD writeup on BIND than what > is listed near the top in google's output? Seems like the > folks at ISC changed the bind/named stuff from /etc to /var > sometime after 2005. > > gary > > PS: I'll share everything I have/am still learning when my > old -> new server migration is done... . > > for me at least /etc/namedb is a symlink (10:14:00 ) 0 $ ls -la /etc/namedb lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 21 Dec 3 21:00 /etc/namedb@ -> /var/named/etc/namedb I tend to access it via /etc though habit. (been using pretty much the same config since 5.x with some minor changes that i cant remember off hand.) Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 16:07:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DBE1065679 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reinhard.haller@interactive-net.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128218FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from interactive.dnsalias.net (ppp-88-217-30-2.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.30.2]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MJmaK-1NIPZL3nQC-001k9I; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:07:20 +0100 Received: from scalix.interactive.de ([fd08:e8a3:4825:0:20c:29ff:feaa:3622]) by interactive.dnsalias.net with esmtp (Exim 4.70 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHJdn-000BpR-6M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:07:19 +0100 Received: from scalix.interactive.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by scalix.interactive.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB6G7Iql016090 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:07:18 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (Core2Duo.interactive.de [192.168.0.196]) by scalix.interactive.de (Scalix SMTP Relay 11.4.5.13150) via ESMTP; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:07:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:07:17 +0100 From: Reinhard Haller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4B1BD6B5.8040405@interactive-net.de> x-scalix-Hops: 1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline X-ACL-rcpt: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-ACL-Send: reinhard.haller@interactive-net.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/f8psqL2jV0jy0UOtI0ca0tJ8uyRKG5ubh713 noQh9s2vaeC13lQXHV7kKfPx9EqGb73rz2+BL/Hw8EPHKcajC9 DzieR7TeE0UOsCZCzNom8a1o9anEvCO9zAJfnctxDOVieqHRZt A+Q== Subject: [8.0R] vimage + virtual lan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:07:21 -0000 Hi, I'm testing the virtual network stack in 8.0. I configured 2 jails in a virtual lan. The documentation regarding vimage is not very detailed. I started with the following configuration: /etc/rc.d/route6d start setenv D1 /jails/dns1 mkdir -p $D1 setenv D2 /jails/dns2 mkdir -p $D2 cd /usr/src make buildworld make installworld DESTDIR=$D1 make distribution DESTDIR=$D1 cd $D1 find . | cpio -pmud $D2 mount -t devfs devfs $D1/dev mount -t devfs devfs $D2/dev jail -c vnet name=d1 host.hostname=dns1.intern.de path=/jails/dns1 persist jail -c vnet name=d2 host.hostname=dns2.intern.de path=/jails/dns2 persist ifconfig bridge0 create ifconfig epair create ifconfig epair create ifconfig bridge0 inet6 fd08:e8a3:4825:10::1 addm epair0a addm epair1a up ifconfig epair0b vnet 1 ifconfig epair1b vnet 2 jexec 1 csh ifconfig epair0b inet6 fd08:e8a3:4825:10::11 route -n add -inet6 default fd08:e8a3:4825:10::1 exit jexec 2 csh ifconfig epair1b inet6 fd08:e8a3:4825:10::12 route -n add -inet6 default fd08:e8a3:4825:10::1 exit Is this the suggested way to set up jails with vnet network stacks in a virtual lan? Thanks Reinhard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 16:25:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBCC1065693 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FCF8FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB6GPOTS031585; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:25:25 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB6GPOTS031585 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260116725; bh=fe+R7GJnvQvXdVq9SL/+AMoWQjOD6cPnMk2klQqF4GI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1BDAEE.1090302@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2006=20Dec=202009=2016:25:18=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Alvin=20|CC:=20freebs d-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20hptrr:=20no=20controller= 20detected|References:=20<20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd. org>|In-Reply-To:=20<20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd.org>| X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=2 0micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signat ure"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigF386B598B75548824B0C3B 59"; b=iw7FjKNycK00t0Gw3R1eiMAdXqcKGErDAZH21efJS4dyWV9qr418fRB0++D1z7uKO OGLAmSy9JtWL1/XGr598hf0mvHIeJ6D4h6gvuNeNoZbbfG9zBSyEfVT6yr4jL0TCj6 MnLCY2HZLDOvzYW9ZwDfrI8ouaQwlhms+OvWEYOk= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B1BDAEE.1090302@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:25:18 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alvin References: <20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF386B598B75548824B0C3B59" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hptrr: no controller detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:25:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF386B598B75548824B0C3B59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alvin wrote: > When I test to run FreeBSD 6.4 on that 2 servers after installation i=20 > got this error. >=20 > hptrr: no controller detected >=20 > Pls kindly let me know how to solve this issue. It's not actually an error. It's just the hptrr driver being overly verbose and telling you what you no doubt already know: that you have=20 no High Point Rocket Raid cards installed. Harmless, and should just be ignored. The spurious verbiage has been fixed in later versions of the OS. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF386B598B75548824B0C3B59 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAksb2vQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwmNgCgiaZK1ikUi6aVogKjyZPc28Fv Ex8An24Xa1jZ81Rj4sZaZdWoCO83iuz5 =1Zfe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF386B598B75548824B0C3B59-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 16:33:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB77106568B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alvin@blueberrytelecom.com) Received: from xsmtp14.mail2web.com (xsmtp14.mail2web.com [168.144.250.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9330C8FC1B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.5.2.52] (helo=xmail12.myhosting.com) by xsmtp14.mail2web.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NHK2q-0004R0-Kn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:33:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 12190 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2009 16:33:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Alvin-PC.blueberrytelecom.com) (Authenticated-user:_alvin@blueberrytelecom.com@[116.87.149.28]) (envelope-sender ) by xmail12.myhosting.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with ESMTPA for ; 6 Dec 2009 16:33:09 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:33:03 +0800 To: Matthew Seaman From: Alvin In-Reply-To: <4B1BDAEE.1090302@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd.org> <4B1BDAEE.1090302@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091206163322.BDB77106568B@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hptrr: no controller detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:33:22 -0000 Hi Matthew, Thanks you indeed for sharing this information to me. This is very useful for me. Thanks Again. At 12:25 AM 12/7/2009, Matthew Seaman wrote: >Alvin wrote: > >>When I test to run FreeBSD 6.4 on that 2 servers after installation >>i got this error. >>hptrr: no controller detected >>Pls kindly let me know how to solve this issue. > >It's not actually an error. It's just the hptrr driver being overly >verbose and telling you what you no doubt already know: that you >have no High Point Rocket Raid cards installed. Harmless, and should just >be ignored. The spurious verbiage has been fixed in later versions of >the OS. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > >-- >Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 >PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > > > Thanks & Regards Alvin Network Engineer Co.Regn no: 200815528M No.1 Claymore Dr. #25-02 Orchard Towers (Rear Blk) Singapore 229594 Mobile: + 65 90687072 MSN: alvin@blueberrytelecom.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 17:34:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16951065692 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BE58FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHL0C-0001YK-F6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:34:34 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NHL0B-0004Lz-Ni for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:34:32 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB6HYV5u070413 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:34:31 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB6HYV64070412 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:34:31 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:34:31 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.4 X-Spam-Level: ---- Subject: dd (to erase disk) from emergency holographic shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:34:35 -0000 I need to erase all of my fbsd disk. I booted the installation cd, launched Emergency Holographic Shell, but cannot find any command, except rm and pwd. I'd like to erase my disk with dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/ad0 Please advise many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 17:42:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA16B106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B16A8FC18 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nB6HdKnb076725; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:39:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nB6HdKi6076724; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:39:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:39:20 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20091206173920.GA76707@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dd (to erase disk) from emergency holographic shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:42:55 -0000 On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:34:31PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I need to erase all of my fbsd disk. > I booted the installation cd, launched > Emergency Holographic Shell, but > cannot find any command, except rm and pwd. The holograqphic shell is not the one you want. You want the Fixit. ////jerry > > I'd like to erase my disk with dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/ad0 > > Please advise > > many thanks > anton > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 17:54:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A158E106566C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA518FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHLJt-0001qj-EH; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:54:55 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NHLJs-0004ni-FG; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:54:53 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB6Hsqgv070495; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:54:52 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB6HsqL3070494; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:54:52 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:54:52 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20091206175452.GA70483@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091206173920.GA76707@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091206173920.GA76707@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.4 X-Spam-Level: ---- Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dd (to erase disk) from emergency holographic shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:54:56 -0000 On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 12:39:20PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:34:31PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > I need to erase all of my fbsd disk. > > I booted the installation cd, launched > > Emergency Holographic Shell, but > > cannot find any command, except rm and pwd. > > The holograqphic shell is not the one you want. > You want the Fixit. I thought these are identical things. In the sysinstall menu I chose "Fixit", and in the following menu I chose "Start an Emergency Holographic Shell". Is this not it? Or do I need to prepare a separate Fixit CD or floppy? I was under the impression I've used this holo shell before, but can't remember how now. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 18:06:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A245106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41B58FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NHLUj-0003Aq-55 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:06:05 -0800 Message-ID: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:06:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ivo Karabojkov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: ivo@kit-bg.com References: Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:06:06 -0000 I don't think it's FreeBSD update. I always use CVSup and build world. So I fall into the same hole with no way up. I use gmirror, my device names are full including slice (e.g. /dev/mirror/gm0s1a and it was produced from /dev/ad4s1a some years ago), so I think I'm not using =E2=80=9Cdangerously dedicated=E2=80=9D mode... After the update I'm unable to mount root. Thanks God I have my old (7.2 release) kernel... Since I have some servers to manage I am very interested how should I upgrade to 8.0 Rel? Thanks in advance for all your advices! Regards, Ivo Tom Worster wrote: >=20 > after running freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade my system won't boot. > it > gets stuck on mountroot and i can't find the magic word it wants. >=20 > the system used to have two sata drives /dev/ad4 and ad6. they were > partitioned and sliced using the deafaults that sysinstall suggested. >=20 > at the boot prompt, lsdev says: >=20 > disk devices > disk0: BIOS drive C: > disk0s1a: FFS > disk0s1b: swap > disk0s1d: FFS > disk0s1e: FFS > disk0s1f: FFS > disk1: BIOS drive D: > disk1s1a: FFS > disk1s1b: swap > disk1s1d: FFS > disk1s1e: FFS > disk1s1f: FFS >=20 > which looks right, although i'm not familiar with the "disk" nomenclature= . >=20 > entering ? at mountroot mentions ad4 and ad6. >=20 > geom_mirror was being used. >=20 > i've tried saying "load geom_mirror" and/or "enable-module geom_mirror" a= t > the boot prompt. neither made any difference. >=20 > nothing i've said to mountroot works: >=20 > ufs:/dev/ad4s1a > ufs:/dev/ad6s1a > ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a > ufs:/dev/disk0s1a > ufs:/dev/disk1s1a >=20 > does anyone know the magic word? i'd be very grateful. >=20 > tom >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/won%27t-boot-after-8.0-= RELEASE-upgrade-tp26628661p26667339.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 18:49:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB409106566C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A368FC17 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHMAR-0004Hm-JM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:49:13 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NHMAQ-0006p6-Hh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:49:11 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB6InA3O070778 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:10 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB6InABu070777 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:10 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:10 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091206184910.GA70763@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091206173920.GA76707@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091206175452.GA70483@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091206175452.GA70483@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -5.0 X-Spam-Level: ----- Subject: Solved: Re: dd (to erase disk) from emergency holographic shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:49:14 -0000 On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:54:52PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 12:39:20PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:34:31PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > I need to erase all of my fbsd disk. > > > I booted the installation cd, launched > > > Emergency Holographic Shell, but > > > cannot find any command, except rm and pwd. > > > > The holograqphic shell is not the one you want. > > You want the Fixit. > > I thought these are identical things. > In the sysinstall menu I chose "Fixit", > and in the following menu I chose "Start an > Emergency Holographic Shell". Is this not it? > > Or do I need to prepare a separate Fixit CD or > floppy? > > I was under the impression I've used this > holo shell before, but can't remember how now. I burned a separate livefs CD, launched Fixit from there. sorry for the bother -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 18:52:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58103106568D for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s4mmael@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D548FC1F for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so1437435fxm.13 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:52:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qUD8LSJBNCv21bwMjuASFXx+a9Dbu6PuCpJ1/aARaPM=; b=i3hu+4exI3PzrNVPIbMXuPFTrc2nOvclrKxmHms9tPc5AOFxLi46E66J9Pe36yYlBu OM0fw6VIUht7Yyo3ot0+795GOBlw3RyDMNTytZxc5NzAWK8ZSW79nw60l7aPlNSGXPBY IbRku3QgUTLQVBVpK9nGmYJTnqFM9IIRP57M4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cART6YhW2t97fUhWWAQAFpPDITJSvaHSNWTdom1TlVcYfehsvEy2YO1vyqBVXRxncW OWNmVSOKvn30Snon7+s61Mw4SSVCy2OuhP1JpswRyRPv8CB735nxmD8qZ8ealAaU2U3E tlTEZa9OAu9EbnduUY24bp96EMlflUYmeMNc8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.54.23 with SMTP id o23mr900079fag.72.1260125534413; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:52:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6e38aed80912061051n752b5631jc78562bcc650e1f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e38aed80911260532y732a43d4i9386bb09eee5fa8@mail.gmail.com> <592586.49174.qm@web24809.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <6e38aed80911270101q187e9190ycde0529b8235b124@mail.gmail.com> <6e38aed80912061051n752b5631jc78562bcc650e1f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:52:14 +0000 Message-ID: <6e38aed80912061052w32b0f251ue48c16569dc12e32@mail.gmail.com> From: S4mmael To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re : freebsd-update with MYKERNEL kernel configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:52:16 -0000 Hi again! During FreeBSD 7.1 installation, I made some changes to my BSD partitions. I didn't touch ad0s1h (/home), so there is still my data. Installation went good, but I see "disk boot failure..." error message when trying to boot OS. Using Fixit liveCD I see: #fdisk /dev/ad0 ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=3D119705 heads=3D16 sectors/track=3D255 (4080 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=3D119705 heads=3D16 sectors/track=3D255 (4080 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) =A0 =A0start 63, size 209729457 (102406 Meg), flag 80 (active) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 7 (0x07),(OS/2 HPFS, NTFS, QNX-2 (16 bit) or Advanced UNIX) =A0 =A0start 209729520, size 10508400 (5131 Meg), flag 0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: sysid 15 (0x0f),(Extended DOS (LBA)) =A0 =A0start 220237920, size 268153200 (130934 Meg), flag 0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 The data for partition 4 is: #bsdlabel /dev/ad0s1 # /dev/ad0s1: 8 partitions: # =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0size =A0 offset =A0 =A0fstype =A0 [fsize bsize bps/cpg] =A0a: =A01048576 =A0 =A0 =A0 63 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 1024 =A08192 46248 =A0b: =A02097152 =A01048639 =A0 =A0 =A0swap =A0c: 209729457 =A0 =A0 =A0 63 =A0 =A0unused =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0 0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 # "raw" part, don't edit =A0d: =A01048576 =A03145791 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 1024 =A08192 46248 =A0e: 20230144 =A04194367 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 1024 =A08192 46248 =A0f: =A02097152 24424511 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 =A0512 =A04096 22424 =A0g: =A04194304 26521663 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 8192 65536 =A0 =A0 8 =A0h: 179013553 30715967 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 0 partition c: partition extends past end of unit bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0! bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities partition h: partition extends past end of unit So, slice ad0s1 is active, partitions can be mounted and viewed, all seems = OK. boot0cfg -B /dev/ad0 and fdisk -B /dev/ad0 doesn't solve the problem. What did I mess? What does the last strings of bsdlabel output mean? How do I manage this? Thank's in advance for any advice. 2009/11/27 S4mmael : > Thank you. > > 2009/11/26 Alexandre L. : >> Hi, >> >> I paste this link where Colin Percival explain who to use the tool freeb= sd-update with custom kernel. But I think that same thing as been written i= n the handbook. >> http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=3D30920&postcount=3D9 >> >> --- En date de=A0: Jeu 26.11.09, S4mmael a =E9crit= =A0: >> >>> De: S4mmael >>> Objet: freebsd-update with MYKERNEL kernel configuration >>> =C0: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Date: Jeudi 26 Novembre 2009, 13h32 >>> Hi all! >>> >>> I've got a problem while upgrading FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 >>> -> FreeBSD >>> 8.0-RELESE with freebsd-update(8). >>> >>> First of all I made a copy of the most configuration files. >>> Then I made: >>> # freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade >>> All went good, except the message, that because of MYKERNEL >>> kernel >>> configuration I should upgrade my kernel before >>> "freebsd-upgrade >>> install". Then I was looking for the way of kernel upgrade, >>> but found >>> nothing. How could I build 8.0 kernel in FreeBSD 7.2? Of >>> course, there >>> were 7.2 sources in /usr/src and I didn't find any sources >>> in >>> /var/db/freebsd-update/. It's the first my question. >>> >>> Thus I decided to upgrade all except the kernel and then >>> rebuild the >>> kernel (that worked good while upgrading 7.1 -> 7.2). I >>> made as >>> mentioned in hanbook: >>> # freebsd-upgrade install >>> # shutdown -r now >>> # freebsd-upgrade install >>> There were many errors "bad sistem call" on th last >>> command. After all >>> I discovered that much files from / were lost (I didn't >>> find any grep, >>> bzcat and so on). On boot kernel can't find fsck_ufs, so >>> automatic >>> mounting fails. If mounted by hand, there is no way to >>> login because >>> of some init error. Single user mode works. "freebsd-update >>> roolback" >>> can't find any backup. Shell scripts can't find "test" (it >>> really >>> doesn't exists in /bin/[ ) and fails. >>> >>> How can I restore the system? I've FreeBSD 7.1 CD. >>> >>> Thank's in advance for your help. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" >>> >> >> >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 19:13:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3CB1065672 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from materribile@yahoo.com) Received: from web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.8.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B86078FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 98134 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2009 19:13:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1260126801; bh=EQmd/dV6gTyLAYc6CqYseOLPZfMGbDIz1yln92IT9Dk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5uobaEwtiCQZPdYwuKmPtIBKXSg0c9fAVxm3XZ7ZDWS9stpqQtC7gSwIkOJPPMhvLe+LBoVODrKtsZ39Kpn5XMsxXF1qHzNR2QfmP5JH/5bR7Fx+SFvxAr7ii9+QaMUeK+h+/psQzX28/b2Ud3iqjpcoSrsmLRQTi+gjY1DrkbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hCpeX57jnE9iknVxsW9a2aULQ2AMjc/pPaZLPFE4f9+gp1JAPcDyN8nYNvC99l02F3qLrqhml2nFEQPfQd/Yan/ZDT1ORptbzapxTB5uNCzgCf9Cjuqla52b+dueH6eIWqFldjAYqlaZRhNaLMP8fyfyB40VafS9VqIyAT7mOt0=; Message-ID: <241496.97555.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gUvVRTAVM1kA5U66MJTHfkAHgCux61LzYBHVPHfsRFNaLNSf1ZYIiNIu21D13IeklYWuJND1PyOeV80czMsmrud8EQfAr_qEuRAnoDR7SO1iq2cSApX2O.SbU5Ib8TpwEY_Q.PfGQftdxFV5xniw8XzlRiU75GkLdAhc1uHxgKG.y8k6aRIf1sUTd6Yit3x.44tN1jAPX9GgJybqBu2KaTKgJAh6fMLvxCSUDYg6A8aozVgPABI4XYHJnarJMVC1nbmidpJ2OlQzO2HgZ0NmxiXAdDqmQPILdZoXET7MdWqz90QxJrQogYVpsUDDoLjq_nv.t71AR1fjFu4UKNWFNP6iXLwv3zW0Klt1gl6coIII1.9fXS3wwWA- Received: from [24.228.57.153] by web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:13:21 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:13:21 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Terribile To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: ad4 and ad4c ? What is ad4c? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:13:22 -0000 Hi, I've just put a FreeBSD 7.2 up on another system, which I am converting from 5.4. In the process, I put in two new SATA disks, which received the installation; the existing PATA disk I kept so that I could retrieve data from it. Now I see the expected ad0 and ad2 disks, with the expected ad0s1a and so forth. But for the PATA drive I have both ad4 and ad4c, ad4s1 and ad4cs1, ad4s1a and ad4cs1a, and so on. What are the do the ad4c* entries represent? How do they differ from the ad4 entries? Where do I find this in the manual? Mark Terribile materribile@yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 21:50:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE283106566C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD358FC1F for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A591E194; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:50:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nB6Logj7002514; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:50:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:50:42 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <20091206225042.39beb31e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091206184910.GA70763@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091206173920.GA76707@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091206175452.GA70483@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091206184910.GA70763@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solved: Re: dd (to erase disk) from emergency holographic shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:50:46 -0000 On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:10 +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I burned a separate livefs CD, launched Fixit from there. > > sorry for the bother Don't mind. If you want a more "comfortable" live fs environment for Fixit (and other operations, such as diagnostics or recovery preparations), you could use FreeSBIE. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 22:08:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01800106566C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from materribile@yahoo.com) Received: from web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.8.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D07EF8FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 86724 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2009 22:08:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1260137327; bh=x1VRhEt6bgc6B56tElgMuWUkcKUBDDVddd4SFjTAm3Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H48oqAxW5VimOWV8sHmmgBPBrUkX2IxY7QlBmuzzmT0HTlq5MoX2sQixnfWvvRhUM0CaMtWWYTKGfl5csO+M62/ttv9TpQBCqoq9HnlPj5vjNjHR16XAYiE7HrQSlB7idTjnPz6gdJHQ368zyw/uWeXgY3fpU2zqCGVcyWdzqG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uu1Ox26Phc/UhnVLlH2PvT1Rhm1yDd/RKP+jL/K78YX4hvRxlBQJoF8F25AZYjlYC+3RPwBdQOPsTS6dGLJtBT6+yaryjq9u1f/Z1sd4ipAU6f0o3ta12+fJ1a2YH9NJLHkFfhysAjcnHhsuuv/ICIdlpy3FrPebzkz2stsYrjA=; Message-ID: <338957.86715.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PQrHPZAVM1nDZzPzNUv14bclIXlLULG1yoOJ5asKC9OhN.iL0kTMKb3l Received: from [24.228.57.153] by web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:08:46 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 14:08:46 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Terribile To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Ports: evolution-exchange, libkrb5.so.9 and libkrb5.so.23 (the latter from heimdal) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:08:48 -0000 Hi, I'm continuing to get 7.2 running and configured for my use. Now I have a conflict in ports. Making gnome2 triggers a make of evolution-exchange, which in turn gives me: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libkrb5.so.9, needed by /usr/local/lib/libexchange-storage-1.2.so, may conflict with libkrb5.so.23 /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.9: undefined reference to `copy_octet_string' I've run pkgdb -F and portupgrade (on gnome2, on evolution-exchange, and -a). libkrb5.so.23 appears to belong to heimdal (which I have pkg_delete'd and rebuilt from ports after a portupgrade) but I don't know where libkrb5.so.9 comes from, nor why evolution-exchange wants the lower-numbered one. Any suggestions? The full output of the last make run is below. If you want the long one, from scratch, I can provide that too. Mark Terribile materribile@yahoo.com ===> Building for evolution-exchange-2.26.3_1 gmake all-recursive gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3' Making all in camel gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/camel' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/camel' Making all in mail gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/mail' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/mail' Making all in addressbook gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/addressbook' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/addressbook' Making all in calendar gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/calendar' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/calendar' Making all in storage gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/storage' /bin/sh /usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/gnome-libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -L/usr/local/lib -o evolution-exchange-storage exchange-autoconfig-wizard.o exchange-component.o exchange-config-listener.o exchange-change-password.o exchange-migrate.o exchange-storage.o main.o ../mail/libexchangemail.la ../addressbook/libexchangeaddressbook.la ../calendar/libexchangecalendar.la ../camel/camel-stub-marshal.lo -L/usr/local/lib -lldap -llber -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -pthread -L/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -L/usr/local/lib -leshell -leutil -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lpopt -lart_lgpl_2 -ledataserverui-1.2 -ledata-book-1.2 -lebook-1.2 -ledata-cal-1.2 -lebackend-1.2 -lecal-1.2 -lical -licalss -licalvcal -lglade-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lXext -lXrender -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXcomposite -lXdamage -lpangoft2-1.0 -lXfixes -lcairo -lX11 -lpango-1.0 -lm -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lcamel-provider-1.2 -lcamel-1.2 -ledataserver-1.2 -lsqlite3 -lxml2 -lgconf-2 -lsoup-2.4 -lbonobo-2 -lgio-2.0 -lbonobo-activation -lgmodule-2.0 -lORBit-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -leshell -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lpopt -lart_lgpl_2 -ledataserverui-1.2 -lglade-2.0 -lebook-1.2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lXext -lXrender -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXcomposite -lXdamage -lpangoft2-1.0 -lXfixes -lcairo -lX11 -lpango-1.0 -lm -lfreetype -lfontconfig -ledataserver-1.2 -lxml2 -lgconf-2 -lbonobo-2 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lebackend-1.2 -lexchange-storage-1.2 -lsoup-2.4 -lgio-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0 gnome-libtool: link: cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -o evolution-exchange-storage exchange-autoconfig-wizard.o exchange-component.o exchange-config-listener.o exchange-change-password.o exchange-migrate.o exchange-storage.o main.o ../camel/.libs/camel-stub-marshal.o -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -pthread -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -pthread -L/usr/local/lib ../mail/.libs/libexchangemail.a ../addressbook/.libs/libexchangeaddressbook.a ../calendar/.libs/libexchangecalendar.a -L/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -L/lib -L/usr/local/lib/nss -L/usr/lib 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Leaving directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 01:26:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1A1106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 01:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) Received: from fran.basement.net (fran.basement.net [76.74.249.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1329D8FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 01:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from willow.basement.net (nat.home.basement.net [173.162.16.100]) by fran.basement.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id nB713x34009108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:04:00 -0600 Received: from willow.basement.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by willow.basement.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB713wtr010376 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:03:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from trix@willow.basement.net) Received: (from trix@localhost) by willow.basement.net (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id nB713wRS010375 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:03:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from trix) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:03:58 -0600 From: Trix Farrar To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on fran.basement.net Subject: Net-SNMP and ProPolice under 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:26:21 -0000 --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Net-SNMP port (net-mgmt/net-snmp) builds and appears to work just fine, but I cannot build the SNMP module for PHP (net-mgmt/php5-snmp). Attempting to build php5-snmp fails during the configure stage. The error message says to check the config.log. In the /usr/ports/net-mgmt/php5-snmp/work/php-5.2.11/ext/snmp/config.log file I found: configure:5967: checking for snmp_parse_oid in -lnetsnmp configure:6002: cc -o conftest -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -R/usr/local= /lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lcrypto -lssl -rpath=3D/usr/local/= lib -lnetsnmp -lelf -lm -lkvm -ldevstat conftest.c -lnetsnmp >&5 /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmp.so: undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail_loca= l' Google-ing around, I have found that the __stack_chk_fail_local symbol is a side effect of compiling with the '-fstack-protector' option for gcc -- which, I believe, is the default for 8.0-RELEASE. Searching /usr/src, I found that this function is referenced in /usr/src/lib/libc/sys/stack_protector.c, but appears to be defined in /usr/src/contrib/gcclibs/libssp/ssp.c, which is part of GCC. I believe that this winds up in /lib/libssp.so.0 -- which also exists under 7.2-RELEASE. The copy of net-mgmt/net-snmp that I compiled under 7.2-RELEASE does not contain the __stack_chk_fail_local symbol. What am I missing? I tried adding '-lssp' to the --with-libs option included in CONFIGURE_ARGS in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/Makefile with no change in behavior. As it stands, I cannot build anything that relies on Net-SNMP. --=20 John D. "Trix" Farrar, CCNA __\\|//__ Basement.NET trix@basement.net (` o-o ') http://www.basement.net/ -----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------------- GPG Key Fprint: 525F DBA7 1A62 E4C4 E642 DF95 384B B851 3CEF C10A --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkscVH4ACgkQOEu4UTzvwQq83ACff3NUFP0RwYfcCvEC9fsyF3/J NWgAoMSRNpE2cQqOb1ay1zOyXM1Km0Ii =WK1s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 02:42:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393FE106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 02:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f194.google.com (mail-yw0-f194.google.com [209.85.211.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39718FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 02:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32so4269590ywh.14 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:42:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:organization:x-operating-system:x-mailer:user-agent :x-face:face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hFar0/A2RfZJ6SwSsWoYRp55nhRY7mBR8K8ESPxjn9M=; b=rVI7sbuEJQrFYWtivmvWhfIH4BA5UgW762hUFmXBuOSbzZCG/53KknFl13+MbJJevT R1O+KsfdkLzIslygfkuZG52f26ZNE1a+VWRRHo3HSBRT1V2lWtLzxhdcABcBZWRt/4bj X5Yc1ximAJKAUBtwKctrVr4MmB6PSDc16KcrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:x-operating-system :x-mailer:user-agent:x-face:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=CiH7QfwmWXgmttRXVDQOrQ2iLrzPIiZIMVpT0hCkGfxjzGCnNpc4jL/M5X3ggFoBbm oFBVACMBH2gEODiWuMZT8QcvtmcVXjRtOe1I+nAxHLpg4P0F6SJEiuTk5Xb6ABUDKqWH kgvVdLyw8IsPisj5nho5NKqXV/tBde8RPClBM= Received: by 10.150.111.26 with SMTP id j26mr10078111ybc.268.1260152274423; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from icy.localdomain ([118.69.224.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm1857403ywd.7.2009.12.06.18.17.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:17:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:17:40 +0700 From: "Anh K. =?UTF-8?B?SHXhu7NuaA==?=" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20091207091740.03a5180d@icy.localdomain> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) User-Agent: Moveup mail on Windows 98 X-Face: no-face Face: no-face Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: ndis driver: invalid argument (freebsd 8.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:42:21 -0000 Hi all, I compiled `bcmwl5` module by `ndisgen` then loaded that module successfully, but I get the `invalid argument` error: $ ifconfig ndis0 ssid TOM-and-JERRY ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument What's wrong to my ndis driver? I read /usr/src/UPDATING and wireless section in the Handbook but found nothing special. So I post here for your helps. Thank you, -- Anh K. Huynh - TeX: http://viettug.org/ - BSD: http://lovebsd.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 03:05:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD59106566C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E0F8FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so1631002fxm.13 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:05:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sMeq4DTUncNItjs0WQbUYbp4DknZObrxyC1R/dsSkSc=; b=hNVmmra6Xjs3Zirm6jfBUSRS1uQ/62ZDZnUGN1x35VObWQEM3c78tQWoUdf6NZDczv fiwtJykk7VXdXQIS0QmlhxTiI1WMaz4aXkL2ZlgJ8YYGujd49Zm7QnLmKuCNtsXaTUoL j+RRhlF80Fu11nStIGwSZc6aRonIbBbKl1sU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=THMyNTRe5epiPleMb6TX1JqV53FwA530BQgNVjoUb5bO3zmSj7fZhmOuxR0SXyqLBR YwjfsD3DhzkXHxolhGIfW3xlmftg9ql37OILpHMHvN2miYM/cXAyWHTRVK2tDf+a7t8n 7n+XDqCsp3DPsfrlSkI2enWL1egoqviIGlWmo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.142 with SMTP id 14mr937489faz.43.1260155133349; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:05:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091207091740.03a5180d@icy.localdomain> References: <20091207091740.03a5180d@icy.localdomain> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:05:33 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912061905j3ef2d882x103c084be2c0629a@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: =?UTF-8?B?QW5oIEsuIEh14buzbmg=?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ndis driver: invalid argument (freebsd 8.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:05:34 -0000 Hi On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Anh K. Hu=E1=BB=B3nh wro= te: > Hi all, > > I compiled `bcmwl5` module by `ndisgen` then loaded that module successfu= lly, but I get the `invalid argument` error: > > $ ifconfig ndis0 ssid TOM-and-JERRY > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > > What's wrong to my ndis driver? I read /usr/src/UPDATING and wireless sec= tion in the Handbook but found nothing special. So I post here for your hel= ps. > 1.) Are your kernel and userland in sync? 2.) What is the output of 'uname -a'? If 8.X, read the 20080420 entry in src/UPDATING. Regards, --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 05:29:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5D21065679 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 05:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f200.google.com (mail-px0-f200.google.com [209.85.216.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E348FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 05:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi38 with SMTP id 38so840684pxi.28 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:29:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-operating-system :x-mailer:user-agent:x-face:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wt1GlcqoAYX22f/P37yPQWE8TXnh1pW/5k0SBjVltzE=; b=jlWdHr3iowg0OOuv2Ub5xcpZyFnors9kCAWk8hQXbVvlhurK7lRKOtmRByLOx8w0wF y8i+2zgZXqkl57HGtUC+XKS4/MQnprPmB3Erl4Ai11nXFT0SGGckAShE3SUoXyC4lOeA zddDJUQ8QYPcTL1wf+pYS7hC3B92gwyXJMpbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-operating-system:x-mailer:user-agent:x-face:face :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IAkR90inA/a/tnzvubr19ULIrdBrIkJWCVy3oNnkMY8ex/+55c4LbfUbdBHyVBK1Fq iCdv1gT6FoGCr0GBWeih7QGZSRFBZKF14rRALGO/OFrruUW5NYhg4I8BwlFbOrGSnqQj +k/G5IG3sCexR/e4KyliMoNver/6lXTee2Opc= Received: by 10.114.163.16 with SMTP id l16mr10793004wae.39.1260163754274; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from icy.localdomain ([118.69.224.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm4897160pzk.6.2009.12.06.21.29.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:29:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:28:31 +0700 From: "Anh K. =?UTF-8?B?SHXhu7NuaA==?=" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20091207122831.15496356@icy.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310912061905j3ef2d882x103c084be2c0629a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091207091740.03a5180d@icy.localdomain> <4ad871310912061905j3ef2d882x103c084be2c0629a@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) User-Agent: Moveup mail on Windows 98 X-Face: no-face Face: no-face Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Glen Barber Subject: Re: ndis driver: invalid argument (freebsd 8.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:29:15 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:05:33 -0500 Glen Barber wrote: > Hi >=20 > On Sun, Dec 6, 20309 at 9:17 PM, Anh K. Hu=E1=BB=B3nh > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I compiled `bcmwl5` module by `ndisgen` then loaded that module > > successfully, but I get the `invalid argument` error: > > > > $ ifconfig ndis0 ssid TOM-and-JERRY > > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > > > > What's wrong to my ndis driver? I read /usr/src/UPDATING and > > wireless section in the Handbook but found nothing special. So I > > post here for your helps. > > >=20 > 1.) Are your kernel and userland in sync? >=20 > 2.) What is the output of 'uname -a'? If 8.X, read the 20080420 > entry in src/UPDATING. >=20 I am using 8.0-RELEASE (upgraded from 7.2-RELEASE). I've read the 20080420 = entry and configured my card successfully. (I read that section before aski= ng in list but I confused.) Thank you Gren and I am sorry for my noise. Regards, --=20 Anh K. Huynh - TeX: http://viettug.org/ - BSD: http://lovebsd.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 06:49:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E1C106566C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D953B8FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB76nqCj036704 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:49:53 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB76nqCj036704 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260168593; bh=fpYduondjlY7lo2oCCabtLX58OzjAoa+XjCf0BZV28Y=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1CA589.4010300@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2007=20Dec=202009=2006:49:45=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Net-SNMP=20and=20ProPolice=20under=208.0-REL EASE|References:=20<20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net>|In-Reply- To:=20<20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=20 0.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3 B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bounda ry=3D"------------enig545231FD44D00742C8662F33"; b=tDvhCnQpANBHX3o3B3O8SkNZDHJGuO4Pw97BWG3LqP6zGajvnFp0ivVjhXZjA/aNB jMsF8IVXLEaoncELEF3cY4y7S44DhGt8dJ3Nq4CTtGEga2mbB4u7Cl/Xk/gP0a9HBD 0S07S+xa2L/7q5yUjol7hbi9oXBRpwvdNTiaFPiY= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B1CA589.4010300@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:49:45 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net> In-Reply-To: <20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig545231FD44D00742C8662F33" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Net-SNMP and ProPolice under 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:49:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig545231FD44D00742C8662F33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trix Farrar wrote: > The Net-SNMP port (net-mgmt/net-snmp) builds and appears to work just > fine, but I cannot build the SNMP module for PHP (net-mgmt/php5-snmp). >=20 > Attempting to build php5-snmp fails during the configure stage. The > error message says to check the config.log. In the > /usr/ports/net-mgmt/php5-snmp/work/php-5.2.11/ext/snmp/config.log file > I found: >=20 > configure:5967: checking for snmp_parse_oid in -lnetsnmp > configure:6002: cc -o conftest -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -R/usr/l= ocal/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lcrypto -lssl -rpath=3D/usr/= local/lib -lnetsnmp -lelf -lm -lkvm -ldevstat conftest.c -lnetsnmp >&5 > /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmp.so: undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail_= local' >=20 > Google-ing around, I have found that the __stack_chk_fail_local symbol > is a side effect of compiling with the '-fstack-protector' option for > gcc -- which, I believe, is the default for 8.0-RELEASE. Searching > /usr/src, I found that this function is referenced in > /usr/src/lib/libc/sys/stack_protector.c, but appears to be defined in > /usr/src/contrib/gcclibs/libssp/ssp.c, which is part of GCC. I > believe that this winds up in /lib/libssp.so.0 -- which also exists > under 7.2-RELEASE. >=20 > The copy of net-mgmt/net-snmp that I compiled under 7.2-RELEASE does > not contain the __stack_chk_fail_local symbol. >=20 > What am I missing? I tried adding '-lssp' to the --with-libs option > included in CONFIGURE_ARGS in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/Makefile > with no change in behavior. As it stands, I cannot build anything > that relies on Net-SNMP. >=20 Yes -- you're not alone. I've seen exactly the same thing, but only on one machine. It works perfectly on an amd64 box running 8.0-RELEASE-p1, but fails miserably on an i386 box running 8.0-STABLE. Time to warm up send-pr(1). Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig545231FD44D00742C8662F33 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkscpZAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyi6wCbBv/WNqZzG7uuX3NYVGUwfOQw y5MAn3awCrC2rJEkn/ZdeK/Z9V+qvSC8 =id0X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig545231FD44D00742C8662F33-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 07:16:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF89106568D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7CE8FC1D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB77GQC7041692 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:16:27 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB77GQC7041692 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260170187; bh=ShCTJIwivq8cco10Sf6QYqZi3hU8huaA87gq2sVf6Dc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1CABC4.6010502@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2007=20Dec=202009=2007:16:20=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Net-SNMP=20and=20ProPolice=20under=208.0-REL EASE|References:=20<20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net>=20<4B1CA5 89.4010300@infracaninophile.co.uk>|In-Reply-To:=20<4B1CA589.401030 0@infracaninophile.co.uk>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Typ e:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol =3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------ enigF057BA18C61E3AD376B5682C"; b=N6ZqbfBi8Inpue+cDrPoDZdZFUJKPF3GmI84bioZIkZqk4sphTP181JpNQU2mqKjb dA3tZDg4T4qk3IcozHj/T7USBwuqMomnIOGHiEB4G+fV5wqwiokmCMcNVN4xza8+ps KR8C6uD17udj8/cAPGJ6pdKQENd3sfHgyDJq+W6Q= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B1CABC4.6010502@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:16:20 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net> <4B1CA589.4010300@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B1CA589.4010300@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF057BA18C61E3AD376B5682C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Net-SNMP and ProPolice under 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:16:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF057BA18C61E3AD376B5682C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matthew Seaman wrote: > Trix Farrar wrote: >> The Net-SNMP port (net-mgmt/net-snmp) builds and appears to work just >> fine, but I cannot build the SNMP module for PHP (net-mgmt/php5-snmp).= > Time to warm up send-pr(1). ports/141238 if you want to add your report. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF057BA18C61E3AD376B5682C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkscq8oACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxoaQCfVG1jikKbzGz79+nxxBIA4+qu oeYAnRO7lfsWECE53i4VPN4VwdWQvigS =HJPK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF057BA18C61E3AD376B5682C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 08:02:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB711065679 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB708FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so1075504eye.9 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:02:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SHEGl8JqaA/ivy9+AbIajNKNaRQyvCIzp8CByOsuBlA=; b=byQFW68BHi5dapHi9CyX0HaoqX5a6W20JO6FM2+0mQTBBbcoKbf9N4ubtb2KvNy9MR sJmkDbxQwI7VVR6wAAqOAjPQMkdJP97EvB7yu08KXM84GlCur8iOsbLFBfE8x0vRkC+w Bkbl9B+C8OdUPNiS1PJkvbeUwGeTpHZQG0aFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=KBj8iC7pY1wZDGSejQU9IWGK/8AjStljbiL7DCHozDHXHMg6FfoY3fmgK3RLSVNJb9 wJtXfpcjbYitJXkjHOT+1JruOAt1vTifRPIaxhdNnghh7acy/5tccjPd/wzy5lIXTwEI z+lIW4DHfk2aIsL4UwuIxQoJotPy2eJPeqTrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.91.81 with SMTP id g59mr2221779wef.128.1260172928801; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:02:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:02:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Net-SNMP and ProPolice under 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:02:10 -0000 >Matthew Seaman wrote: >> Trix Farrar wrote: >>> The Net-SNMP port (net-mgmt/net-snmp) builds and appears to work just >>> fine, but I cannot build the SNMP module for PHP (net-mgmt/php5-snmp). >> Time to warm up send-pr(1). >ports/141238 if you want to add your report. There will be a number of such problems, because stack protection was enabled in parts of the base system, but it is not now adequately supported in Ports. See: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/140791 b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 09:54:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A01A1065676 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.huth@tmr.net) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [212.23.146.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1848FC19 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB28E1DECCD for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:54:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04858-01-89 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:54:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ip-77-24-45-218.web.vodafone.de [77.24.45.218]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C1B1DEC1B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:54:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:54:16 +0100 From: Alex Huth To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Predence: first-class Priority: normal X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.1 (2007 May 12, compiled Oct 17 2008 18:11:28) X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 i686 GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-05-17) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Subject: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:54:26 -0000 Hello! Maybe i haven't understand the process of updating not really. I thought when i use Releng_6 in the stable_supfile i get the latest version of 6.x = 6.4. But after the process of make buildworld and so on, it is still 6.3. Do i have to use Releng_6_4 even when i do not get the patches then? Next question is if i don't get updates with freebsd-update when i have a stable version? I have the problem with two machines (6.3 and 6.4). On both i do not get the public key because it is not available on the remote server. I have test it with debug. thx Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 10:21:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2817106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424198FC20 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7ALUB3076109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:21:40 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB7ALUB3076109 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260181300; bh=EP/3GRFyyBaWv+iZ8MwTPjX268jQbY7gyrTcFZsk57Q=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2007=20Dec=202009=2010:21:25=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091202)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Alex=20Huth=20|CC:=20freebsd-ques tions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20update/upgrade=20question|Refer ences:=20<20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark>|In-Reply-To: =20<20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark>|X-Enigmail-Version :=200.95.7|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/sign ed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-s ignature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig44F92B445A40DB29E 84B0E6B"; b=lKS/TupXJyNcYTIjJKai6zYJe/gQd/rDRxpVD7rTqszCjEKq8FiqWsFYIveKOJJqA 9PCcLKDMyZbP0nv3LqHKz7x977QWzHyXPLrJCKGFmwDeqCP3TnQnKSDcKCyUx243y9 339wQ1O8Z4yUTydt0+6KmVh7Yllst+0Pcbj4F20Y= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4] claimed to be significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net Message-ID: <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:21:25 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Huth References: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> In-Reply-To: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig44F92B445A40DB29E84B0E6B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:21:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig44F92B445A40DB29E84B0E6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alex Huth wrote: > Hello! >=20 > Maybe i haven't understand the process of updating not really. I though= t when > i use Releng_6 in the stable_supfile i get the latest version of 6.x =3D= 6.4. > But after the process of make buildworld and so on, it is still 6.3. Do= i have > to use Releng_6_4 even when i do not get the patches then? RELENG_6 will give you the latest from the 6.x-STABLE development branch.= =20 According to: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh?rev=3D1.69.= 2.21;content-type=3Dtext%2Fx-cvsweb-markup;only_with_tag=3DRELENG_6 this will call itself 6.4-STABLE. It will have all of the same=20 security/errata patches as the 6.4-RELEASE branch plus any development wo= rk that=20 has been done on 6.x (which will have been pretty minimal lately since th= e focus is now on 9-CURRENT / 8-STABLE) There's not a lot of differences between= =20 RELENG_6 and RELENG_6_4 nowadays. The fact that you aren't seeing your version reported as 6.4-STABLE indic= ates=20 something went wrong with your upgrade process and you haven't actually b= ooted your system from an updated kernel. > Next question is if i don't get updates with freebsd-update when i have= > a stable version? I have the problem with two machines (6.3 and 6.4). O= n both > i do not get the public key because it is not available on the remote s= erver. > I have test it with debug. freebsd-update only covers the RELEASE branches. That is equivalent to RELENG_6_3 or RELENG_6_4 in your cases. However 6.3-RELEASE is due to go= out of support on the 31st January (http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.= html) so now would be a good time to think about upgrading. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK --------------enig44F92B445A40DB29E84B0E6B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksc1yoACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+VbMWwCghemMyHGkTj4y4wXrAczPinTj q3QAmwfp+dV7tnJXdHKRXVX8MyWm0Arh =3aWv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig44F92B445A40DB29E84B0E6B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 10:53:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B5C1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.huth@tmr.net) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [212.23.146.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A058FC15 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4111DED87 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:53:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17233-01-10 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:53:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (bo-stwhv-fw02.de.tmr.net [212.23.140.253]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC1B1DED81 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:53:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:53:32 +0100 From: Alex Huth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapark> References: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> Predence: first-class Priority: normal X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.1 (2007 May 12, compiled Oct 17 2008 18:11:28) X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 i686 GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-05-17) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:53:35 -0000 * Matthew Seaman schrieb: > > Next question is if i don't get updates with freebsd-update when i have > > a stable version? I have the problem with two machines (6.3 and 6.4). On both > > i do not get the public key because it is not available on the remote server. > > I have test it with debug. > > freebsd-update only covers the RELEASE branches. That is equivalent to > RELENG_6_3 or RELENG_6_4 in your cases. However 6.3-RELEASE is due to go out > of support on the 31st January (http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html) > so now would be a good time to think about upgrading. > So if i understand that right, it is not possible to follow the engeneering in stable and having all patches without using the way over "make buildworld ..."? thx Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 11:24:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E0C106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54078FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7BO2Qt078710 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:24:02 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB7BO2Qt078710 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260185043; bh=KMss0MGNde2XlLJxF3Ug1EqF9xkxSXmtlSd1bKi4I6Q=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1CE5CC.409@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Mon,= 2007=20Dec=202009=2011:23:56=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|U ser-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091202)|MIME-Version: =201.0|To:=20Alex=20Huth=20|CC:=20freebsd-question s@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20update/upgrade=20question|Reference s:=20<20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark>=09<4B1CD725.8030 607@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20<20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borus siapark>|In-Reply-To:=20<20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapar k>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.7|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-T ype:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol =3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------ enig9956F4AB72994C6B141FF53E"; b=jKGGt8P8eqK6MSGdyByMpTXhmJGdmzc81vecyUI379DyYFEwD2jJojkRyOsOQp4Vo sWontRblh4O4csiX1FnV4V0KJ6DiUnl2K+oSrQspSokS6G4HqlbMIlMrChcnCojnNG 54VWK0KVls8+D4bwcES/b7YRovJfv77FVgF5YsTQ= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4] claimed to be significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net Message-ID: <4B1CE5CC.409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:23:56 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Huth References: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapark> In-Reply-To: <20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapark> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9956F4AB72994C6B141FF53E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:24:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9956F4AB72994C6B141FF53E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alex Huth wrote: > * Matthew Seaman schrieb: >>> Next question is if i don't get updates with freebsd-update when i ha= ve >>> a stable version? I have the problem with two machines (6.3 and 6.4).= On both >>> i do not get the public key because it is not available on the remote= server. >>> I have test it with debug. >> freebsd-update only covers the RELEASE branches. That is equivalent t= o >> RELENG_6_3 or RELENG_6_4 in your cases. However 6.3-RELEASE is due to= go out >> of support on the 31st January (http://www.freebsd.org/security/securi= ty.html) >> so now would be a good time to think about upgrading. > So if i understand that right, it is not possible to follow the engenee= ring in > stable and having all patches without using the way over "make buildwor= ld > ..."? Yes. If you want to track one of the development branches (HEAD, RELENG_= N) then you have to update sources by csup(1) or various other mechanisms an= d then compile your kernel+world yourself. Alternatively you can track release branches (RELENG_N_M) in the same way= , or so long as the release branch is still in support, you can use freebsd-update(8) to pull down pre-built binary updates.=20 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK --------------enig9956F4AB72994C6B141FF53E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksc5dIACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+VZCcQCgtq2lfQpUSIreVzTnhtYO9ATa oisAnRL09DKTA5BVlLZbEM8CjsVy4Ldz =LjaF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9956F4AB72994C6B141FF53E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 11:24:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC45106568B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Received: from mailrelay009.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay009.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3B88FC19 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:24:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEAPVzHEtR9SS5/2dsb2JhbACBS9YChDMEgWc Received: from 185.36-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.atlascopco.be) ([81.245.36.185]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 12:24:11 +0100 Received: from kalimero.atlascopco.be (kalimero.atlascopco.be [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.atlascopco.be (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7BOB1v036415; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:24:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: Andrea Venturoli Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:24:09 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4B1A5644.4090302@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <4B1A5644.4090302@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200912071224.11130.tijl@coosemans.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WINE on 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:24:13 -0000 On Saturday 05 December 2009 13:47:00 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Is WINE usable on 6.3/i386? > I cannot seem to start any win32 program and before I spend time into > it, I thought I just ask. You probably need the FreeBSD 6.x patch at http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 09:42:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EF9106568F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sverre97pettersen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f194.google.com (mail-yw0-f194.google.com [209.85.211.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E0E8FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32so4476875ywh.14 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:42:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=9VkLBVFiYSbNm8OK53aL8aBQUBlWoim1Yh/lc+LVjQE=; b=wMUzDYKQ6NayEyR2oK4wOADscFv8xLeGuwZlfIWNEnYClrdZzDVG7/IwtX/lETcsm5 Ob/NYQfe+H1Y5zaNc9hONN7nRsmXkGLwj+t+LCevQAAPk2NMr5MZk4qX7dyUN76I9FZK jyFb+3kW6olgz/ZhY1LxhK/uvyB0V3R9PYWbs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gt3uc1rtYS+9DBrGrl2PBu+fbtmtyudufc1rKmC221/ILv9ZOSeVQ6H7eRzo1KqYN0 OcWmIGwoera4/NgDfKD6jBExMTLxUaFhMEbG6TioOSjN35YElbx+UtGeGqTqirK4G17B T1Vfky6JdQN1duvifltjRENVtwvuS7LlOqFoI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.106.24 with SMTP id i24mr5147495anm.102.1260177186041; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:13:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:13:06 +0100 Message-ID: From: Sverre Vegard Pettersen To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:01:09 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Missing link in ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:42:01 -0000 Dear Sirs, I have just installed FreeBSD 7.2-Release from a dvd image I downloaded, with KDE windows manager. I immidiately cvsup'ed my ports-supfile, completeing with "make fetchindex" from /usr/ports. When trying to install hplip from /usr/ports/print, I am told to update several qt4 ports from version 4.5.2 to 4.5.3. The only trouble is: qt4-dbus-4.5.3 is not to be found in my ports tree, and I can not find the source-files on the net either. For instance, from this server list: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/devel.html, it is clear that there should be such a port, but the files are nowhere to be found. I have managed to download "qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.3.tar.gz" now, so I will try to install the complete qt4-4.5.3 port and hope dbus is to be found there. I just wanted to let you know in case this is a minor bug to be dealt with outside my machine... :-p Best regards, Sverre Vegard Pettersen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 13:07:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2307A10656C2 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F838FC22 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:07:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so1923425fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:07:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=0Xk8GD+jOTB9uFZijNE+4njVhOE5G0kpEdobILp5b00=; b=x22A9bvtosd2Z4fVB6gR1zl11qS5pjqeiCa+mI+d/qEeQIgVqB+UjboqQbwvqPFNoX 5r8e3ow7U7PzDTnTBasSBszW11nRwKSClc+Nd3r9+tMdq+n+jILdBVZqWNKXOxJS+5S6 4atwuEM6wT55K+Mfw+XECS1qGgK/aUwdljVM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lkJDOd1WC+LGn1KA4vRereos1p+0LZWE7hss0f+y7PARwHT3v50oIxRdEAQOQbsQGS WSxxx0qDbTu8H5U59whkJ4IpCS1orGgry/uYCKwTUAS832Oj0G+s23S9jehDUVGEsH1/ LCeADa3OVXnlaEc/dWovaQnc88mXvFEgx/Tz0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.201 with SMTP id q9mr733293hbd.38.1260191258578; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:07:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:07:38 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: zfs v22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:07:40 -0000 Hi are there any plans to port zfs v22+ to freebsd yet? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 13:17:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1756C106566C; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 482254ac@razorfever.net) Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35768FC12; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:17:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmkJAJ6PHEtMCrCL/2dsb2JhbACBSxqXL758hDMEih4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,355,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="50892827" Received: from 76-10-176-139.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO server.razorfever.net) ([76.10.176.139]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 07 Dec 2009 08:17:08 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.197] ([192.168.0.197]) by server.razorfever.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB7DDVVd047142; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:13:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from 482254ac@razorfever.net) Message-ID: <4B1D0054.4060406@razorfever.net> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:17:08 -0500 From: "Derek (freebsd lists)" <482254ac@razorfever.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: <20091128113000.BBDF410656E6@hub.freebsd.org> <20091205212857.H34611@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20091205212857.H34611@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at server.razorfever.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Randi Harper Subject: Re: 8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick fixit - No USB devices found! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:17:14 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > Very long story short: googled for ages and found a forum thread about > this very problem, in which someone suggested Options / Rescan Devices > then trying again. The OP there said it didn't work for him, but it > sure did for me! > > Options / Rescan Devices fixed it for me. Maybe it will for Derek > and/or maybe provide another clue? Indeed this works for me. I've added a follow-up to the PR. Thanks for the tip! - Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 13:35:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612F71065670 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDFE8FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:35:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (213-84-73-82.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB7DMt4f000756 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:22:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7DMtqE006707 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:22:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:22:55 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:35:02 -0000 Hi, I upgraded the radeonhd driver from 1.2.5 to 1.3.0. It seems to work fine, except when moving a window. As far as I can see all other actions like scrolling or resizing is quick, but moving windows goes really slow. In my xorg.conf the modules "extmod", "record", "dbe", "glx", "dbi" and "dbi2" are loaded. In the device section I have two options enabled: - "AccelMethod" "EXA" - "DRI" "on" In my x.org logfile are no errors. Does anyone else has experienced this? My Radeon is a HD4870 and I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-ST. Thanks in advance. Regards, Marco -- The more you complain, the longer God lets you live. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 13:44:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EAC1065672 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216F38FC1A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7DhvDC083540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:43:58 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB7DhvDC083540 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260193438; bh=TLVf+52SVZ6ED/8UPX0qF7XgLOcjo354qyNIn3XU4Uo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1D0698.7010903@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2007=20Dec=202009=2013:43:52=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091202)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Sverre=20Vegard=20Pettersen=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Mi ssing=20link=20in=20ports=20tree|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-V ersion:=200.95.7|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipar t/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application /pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig372B2A5E0AC 558CECDCB6E1A"; b=VFPVB7kc2cGtpQMoPAKCI9VBblUsGueIMzdsJ8y4Z+t0jxnfA4cOZ+ki00qY1elpw T6BN1AyPb1Kbt+qK2VOXqyOHJskOnK4jCi/6sBbXjl1F34CF9L4i35d1ZuQdavCB7c +s4Duo/89QFLLwX1CBEeZJ6gmZoiIAXlJQyk0yig= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4] claimed to be significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net Message-ID: <4B1D0698.7010903@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:43:52 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sverre Vegard Pettersen References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig372B2A5E0AC558CECDCB6E1A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, DEAR_SOMETHING, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing link in ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:44:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig372B2A5E0AC558CECDCB6E1A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sverre Vegard Pettersen wrote: > Dear Sirs, >=20 > I have just installed FreeBSD 7.2-Release from a dvd image I downloaded= , > with KDE windows manager. I immidiately cvsup'ed my ports-supfile, > completeing with "make fetchindex" from /usr/ports. When trying to inst= all > hplip from /usr/ports/print, I am told to update several qt4 ports from= > version 4.5.2 to 4.5.3. The only trouble is: qt4-dbus-4.5.3 is not to b= e > found in my ports tree, and I can not find the source-files on the net > either. % pkg_info -ox qt4-dbus Information for qt4-dbus-4.5.3: Origin: devel/dbus-qt4 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK --------------enig372B2A5E0AC558CECDCB6E1A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksdBp0ACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+VZm3gCgj1HhufEB5gYRZYedG9o0XyVN 9jkAoI+0fgIdCli8kLLhH7uYI6j7mCJ8 =SssW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig372B2A5E0AC558CECDCB6E1A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 13:47:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7B41065679; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:47:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2588FC0A; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB7DmMpp076526; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:48:22 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:48:21 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "Derek (freebsd lists)" <482254ac@razorfever.net> In-Reply-To: <4B1D0054.4060406@razorfever.net> Message-ID: <20091208003536.H12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20091128113000.BBDF410656E6@hub.freebsd.org> <20091205212857.H34611@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4B1D0054.4060406@razorfever.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Randi Harper Subject: Re: 8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick fixit - No USB devices found! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:47:12 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Derek (freebsd lists) wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > > > Options / Rescan Devices fixed it for me. Maybe it will for Derek > > and/or maybe provide another clue? > > Indeed this works for me. I've added a follow-up to the PR. > > Thanks for the tip! Good to hear. Randi, thanks for your detailed response. Picked up the 'flu visiting Sydney and have been well out of it; hoping for a little energy soon. If nothing else, might adding a quick "(try Options/Rescan Devices)" to the "No USB devices" message text help some folks out of this quandary? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 14:23:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097A5106568F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DDA8FC15 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so1996825fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:23:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2OPbdpdURElpe+J7boZiU1VzHzWUHPcd0lRyLBQfkdY=; b=J8/NT75EJa6AYDYRDRBryz9+gX0dSSf86cBEFRpliWsGdoSnpLdRLDrOMGLRkR9blg sGnJfYDypVMteE+hrW8zaWAHIPlinE0QpbI0XenCRUz+3h045oGGFtt38e/gvYb0g8Bw wShzbhSCHtnqVu9Np+i2Jsr1awHyAIGWZp1dE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=j/Xqy0mqrDpfr588tQBl1l/L+W4OgLKuoP8K6GpYh4Nd7scDKb02GdNY4MpCj8L2Rn MUwJFrJJ4zO3pP8/Zb2KHMe3brs2L71E6KhViptxZ8GmBa9SF+g/6pRiscutQojWzhZZ UYls25bI23UiOARpoimnAaLbPJn7lUTNc6Gpc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.7.91 with SMTP id c27mr1004918fac.14.1260195801624; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:23:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:23:21 +0200 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: Marco Beishuizen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:23:23 -0000 Give x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati a try http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-December/009093.html On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > Hi, > > I upgraded the radeonhd driver from 1.2.5 to 1.3.0. It seems to work fine, > except when moving a window. As far as I can see all other actions like > scrolling or resizing is quick, but moving windows goes really slow. > > In my xorg.conf the modules "extmod", "record", "dbe", "glx", "dbi" and > "dbi2" are loaded. In the device section I have two options enabled: > - "AccelMethod" "EXA" > - "DRI" "on" > In my x.org logfile are no errors. > > Does anyone else has experienced this? > My Radeon is a HD4870 and I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-ST. > > Thanks in advance. > Regards, > Marco > > -- > The more you complain, the longer God lets you live. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 14:25:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1574106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFC48FC1C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay28.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay28.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BBCA11B41C1; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay28.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 8F8161B407B; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:25:35 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:25:32 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: Ivo Karabojkov , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade Thread-Index: Acp3SSH8uX1T+QBp/EmqLUSqUPNztA== In-Reply-To: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:25:36 -0000 On 12/6/09 1:06 PM, "Ivo Karabojkov" wrote: > Since I have some servers to manage I am very interested how should I > upgrade to 8.0 Rel? this is a big question. for my production servers i like to keep things simple and use the generic binary distribution. and i've been trying to develop a habit of using freebsd-update. but now i'm very nervous. unlike the machine that failed, my production systems have hw raid and don't use gmirror so i suspect the update may go smoothly. i also have a redundant config so i can take a machine offline to do the update. nevertheless, this experience has unnerved me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 14:33:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA05106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhorn2000@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E978FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2007749fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:33:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JaoDTqi561ggA2ahMPkoQZisInqObyeB99z5w6EOB30=; b=h8J2eKu9fkP2IbblE3VzFeEL1oofK8FuDoGMQ+D6dqO+lk4rUUwHCr8asOT454dMoL xrLCPRLlwmIuxzqCqgHIDNNiRf+IlkikxxXes+63+Q84jiOjxx+MrvUaGLUaZgb0S7dh 91TjTCwOqGNaYau6S6+F39r+HkfIoixa+5RWo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gVhOPVF9SNQVsFbN9mbG8LaPZzUI9Sdxtk/QPfS0PZR+oypAKFqgfzL1bIQ/w72VbK kUXPrQ9/aOVWMdaQRN2DJqIHwIq2vhZenfFoIFQvPcz+mYzm4BO34euaGSgj4LfE8d96 5B/sIrSL5hWWyUS8df7viUu3g1bTv6zvM8KW4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.143.212 with SMTP id l20mr653713hba.210.1260196393099; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:33:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091207122831.15496356@icy.localdomain> References: <20091207091740.03a5180d@icy.localdomain> <4ad871310912061905j3ef2d882x103c084be2c0629a@mail.gmail.com> <20091207122831.15496356@icy.localdomain> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:33:13 -0500 Message-ID: <25ff90d60912070633v62acccc1g98efdcf0e81b41fc@mail.gmail.com> From: David Horn To: =?UTF-8?B?QW5oIEsuIEh14buzbmg=?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ndis driver: invalid argument (freebsd 8.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:33:15 -0000 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Anh K. Hu=E1=BB=B3nh wr= ote: > > Hi, > > On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:05:33 -0500 > Glen Barber wrote: > > > Hi > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 20309 at 9:17 PM, Anh K. Hu=E1=BB=B3nh > > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I compiled `bcmwl5` module by `ndisgen` then loaded that module > > > successfully, but I get the `invalid argument` error: > > > > > > $ ifconfig ndis0 ssid TOM-and-JERRY > > > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > > > > > > What's wrong to my ndis driver? I read /usr/src/UPDATING and > > > wireless section in the Handbook but found nothing special. So I > > > post here for your helps. > > > > > > > 1.) Are your kernel and userland in sync? > > > > 2.) What is the output of 'uname -a'? =C2=A0If 8.X, read the 20080420 > > entry in src/UPDATING. > > > > I am using 8.0-RELEASE (upgraded from 7.2-RELEASE). I've read the 2008042= 0 entry and configured my card successfully. (I read that section before as= king in list but I confused.) > If you have your /usr/src/ and kernel in sync (when you generated your ndis module), then try something like: ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ndis0 ifconfig wlan0 ssid TOM-and-JERRY via rc.conf: wlans_ndis0=3D"wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0=3D"ssid TOM-and-JERRY" >From wlan(4) man page: Drivers provide 802.11 functionality through wlan interfaces that are created at runtime using interface cloning. This is done with the ifconfig(8) create command or using the wlans_IFX variable in rc.conf(= 5). Some drivers support the creation of multiple wlan interfaces that sha= re the same underlying device; this is the way by which ``multi-bss sup- port'' is provided but it can also be used to create WDS links and oth= er interesting applications. If you use WPA wireless security and DHCP on your wireless network, you should also look at wpa_supplicant(8) and wpa_supplicant.conf(5) and use something like: wlans_ndis0=3D"wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0=3D"WPA DHCP" and setup your /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file as required with something like (entries vary based upon exact setup of your wireless network. See wpa_supplicant.conf man page): ctrl_interface=3D/var/run/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=3Dwheel network=3D{ ssid=3D"TOM-and-JERRY" key_mgmt=3DWPA-PSK psk=3D"very secret passphrase" } and of course make sure that the generated ndis module is loaded (via kldload or via /boot/loader.conf) before attempting to clone the interface with "ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ndis0" See kldstat(8) man page and utility if you are unsure if your generated ndis kernel module is loaded. Good Luck. --Dave Horn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 14:49:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5561065679 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332148FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:49:51 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAGClHEvDDR/w/2dsb2JhbADZFoQzBIFnhAU Received: from event240.event.belbone.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.240]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 15:49:37 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:48:39 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: Marco Beishuizen Message-ID: <20091207144839.GA69352@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:49:52 -0000 On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 02:22:55PM +0100, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > Hi, > > I upgraded the radeonhd driver from 1.2.5 to 1.3.0. It seems to work fine, > except when moving a window. As far as I can see all other actions like > scrolling or resizing is quick, but moving windows goes really slow. > > In my xorg.conf the modules "extmod", "record", "dbe", "glx", "dbi" and > "dbi2" are loaded. In the device section I have two options enabled: > - "AccelMethod" "EXA" > - "DRI" "on" > In my x.org logfile are no errors. > > Does anyone else has experienced this? > My Radeon is a HD4870 and I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-ST. > > Thanks in advance. > Regards, > Marco > I have exactly the same problem. I'll probably downgrade tonight to make sure this upgrade is the reason of the slowness. > -- > The more you complain, the longer God lets you live. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 14:55:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E25B106568F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg18.ifdnrg.com (roaming.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4AF8FC19 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.119] (87-194-184-71.bethere.co.uk [87.194.184.71]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg18.ifdnrg.com (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB7EMnlw084942 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:22:49 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4B1D0FAE.1090107@ifdnrg.com> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:22:38 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ifdnrg18.ifdnrg.com Subject: ipfw + DDOS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:55:28 -0000 Hi, I have a nameserver that occassinally gets blitzed for a few minutes by a high number of dynamic and changing IP's. The nameserver doesn't give recursive lookups but 500,000 denied requests over 5-10 mins still hurts a bit. I use ipfw and had thought that rate limiting connections on the incoming port would help but I'm not sure if this is my best option. I've been doing some testing as part of the problem is generating enough traffic to simulate, but then i start to see dynamic ipfw rules kick in and i see very little in the named logs. Any advice appreciated. thanks Paul -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 15:30:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42074106568D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF068FC1B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (213-84-73-82.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB7FUGfa018280 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:30:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7FUG5n008444; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:30:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:30:16 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: George Liaskos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:30:19 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, George Liaskos wrote: > Give x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati a try > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-December/009093.html What are the differences between the ati and the radeonhd driver? Is the ati-driver for all Ati cards and the radeonhd specifically for RadeonHD cards, or are there more differences? Regards, Marco -- It takes a smart husband to have the last word and not use it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 16:40:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF0F1065676 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614B48FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NHgdo-00058o-TZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:40:52 -0800 Message-ID: <26679927.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:40:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ivo Karabojkov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: ivo@kit-bg.com References: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:40:53 -0000 I had to reformat my drive since I had reached "the point of no return"... So I am also nervous. My first failure was with a-kind-of hardware raid, ar, built with cheap VIA VT6421A controller. After installkernel the system refused to boot and on its display was message "hardware failure, you have to destroy and build the mirror again. You will lose ALL data". Frightening, isn't it. So i tested the disks, found them OK and replaced the controller - newer MB with GEOM mirror. Reformat, of course, occurred and all the data was salvaged from the mirror disk. Now I see the card works. It's something with FreeBSD 8.0. This system was installed with FreeBSD 5.1 about may be 4 years ago and upgraded via cvsup til now. I'm sharing this experience to bring your attention to major advice in the update procedure - to take full backup. I think good RAIDs do not store data on the disks in readable by any adapter with same interface format. My question is: how can I guess the result - "Glory" or "Sorrow" BEFORE starting the update? Otherwise, needless to say, 8.0 works perfectly. I mostly use AMD64 version. Tom Worster wrote: > > On 12/6/09 1:06 PM, "Ivo Karabojkov" wrote: > >> Since I have some servers to manage I am very interested how should I >> upgrade to 8.0 Rel? > > this is a big question. > > for my production servers i like to keep things simple and use the generic > binary distribution. and i've been trying to develop a habit of using > freebsd-update. but now i'm very nervous. > > unlike the machine that failed, my production systems have hw raid and > don't > use gmirror so i suspect the update may go smoothly. i also have a > redundant > config so i can take a machine offline to do the update. > > nevertheless, this experience has unnerved me. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/won%27t-boot-after-8.0-RELEASE-upgrade-tp26628661p26679927.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 16:41:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB031065696 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4494C8FC26 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7GfcUT036067; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:41:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nB7GfciU036064; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:41:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:41:38 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Marco Beishuizen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:41:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: George Liaskos , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:41:39 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, George Liaskos wrote: > >> Give x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati a try >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-December/009093.html > > What are the differences between the ati and the radeonhd driver? Is the > ati-driver for all Ati cards and the radeonhd specifically for RadeonHD > cards, or are there more differences? ati is package of drivers that supports radeon, r128, and other (older) ATI cards. With ati installed, you can enter "ati" for the driver in the Device section of xorg.conf and it will pick the right driver. Or you can just enter "radeon" and skip the autoselection. The radeon driver supports the whole range of radeon cards including the HD series, although later chipsets aren't fully supported yet. See radeon(4x) for a list of cards and types of acceleration supported. radeonhd is a separate driver meant to support only radeon R500 (Radeon X1300) and above cards. My impression is that the radeon driver is more mainstream and probably less experimental than radeonhd. I'd try the radeon driver first, and only use radeonhd if it offers better support for your card. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 16:59:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF76106566C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845A78FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (213-84-73-82.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB7GxUNd070619 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:59:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7GxUgT021663 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:59:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:59:30 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:59:32 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > Hi, > > I upgraded the radeonhd driver from 1.2.5 to 1.3.0. It seems to work fine, > except when moving a window. As far as I can see all other actions like > scrolling or resizing is quick, but moving windows goes really slow. > > In my xorg.conf the modules "extmod", "record", "dbe", "glx", "dbi" and > "dbi2" are loaded. In the device section I have two options enabled: > - "AccelMethod" "EXA" > - "DRI" "on" > In my x.org logfile are no errors. > > Does anyone else has experienced this? > My Radeon is a HD4870 and I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-ST. > > Thanks in advance. > Regards, > Marco I installed the ati-driver and this one doesn't seem to have the slow window moving problem. So I guess I'm staying with the ati-driver for now. Regards, Marco -- Women who want to be equal to men lack imagination. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 17:33:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15401065670 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD2B8FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:33:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 18942398 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:33:25 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:33:20 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:33:19 -0600 Thread-Topic: root mount waiting for umass_cam_rescan Thread-Index: Acp3Y13nYArnSjp/Tlyx8lDzU8MIrg== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33C6C451@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: root mount waiting for umass_cam_rescan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:33:21 -0000 I've prepared a USB boot key and it comes up okay until the point it's abou= t to mount root. It sits hung at the "Trying to mount root from: /dev/da0s1= a", and a few lines earlier I see the message "root mount waiting for: umas= s_cam_rescan". Anyone know what this is about? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 18:23:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5E11065672 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (smtp-out.neti.ee [194.126.126.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D268FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay212.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026C011D32BEF for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:23:52 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at estpak.ee Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay212.estpak.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f3nbh30eN57g for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:23:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from NETI-Relayhost2.estpak.ee (neti-relayhost2.estpak.ee [88.196.174.199]) by relay212.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819AD11D32B51 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:23:49 +0200 (EET) X-SMTP-Auth-NETI-Businessmail: no Received: from carlsberg.kodu.lan (84-50-137-163-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee [84.50.137.163]) by NETI-Relayhost2.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AA36A3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:23:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4B1D4835.6070502@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:23:49 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090917) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4B17F284.3000602@raad.tartu.ee> In-Reply-To: <4B17F284.3000602@raad.tartu.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: SA-09-15 vs Apache with client certificates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:23:54 -0000 Toomas Aas wrote: > > Do I understand the "NOTE WELL" section of FreeBSD-SA-09:15 correctly > that if I apply the patch then this functionality will no longer work? > Testing confims that my understanding is correct. I applied the patch and authentication results in "ssl_error_handshake_failure_alert" returned by Firefox, whereas the server logs "Re-negotiation handshake failed: Not accepted by client!?". So I quickly reversed the patch. I'm surprised more people aren't getting bitten by this. -- Toomas Aas ... If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple of payments. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 19:05:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983CF106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=585aef4c5=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658888FC17 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:05:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,356,1257141600"; d="scan'208";a="23597440" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 12:36:40 -0600 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0AE344EF37; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:36:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:36:38 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Warren Block Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <015b01ca751e$02b58680$08209380$@rr.com> <4B197F38.4040008@gmail.com> <002701ca7537$0cb8a900$2629fb00$@rr.com> <20091204210840.W81190@familysquires.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: RE: Xorg - no mouse and no keyboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:05:37 -0000 --On Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:49:04 -0600 Warren Block wrote: > > Try manually configuring mouse and keyboard in xorg.conf again, but only > with AutoAddDevices Off, no AllowEmptyInput line. The xorg.conf man > page says "If AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using the kbd, mouse, or > vmmouse driver are ignored." > Warren, thanks. This solved my problem. I have no idea why hald stopped working, but I was able to overcome the problem by manually configuring the mouse and keyboard in xorg.conf and adding Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" to the ServerFlags section. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 19:44:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A384D1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFA38FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.idefix.lan (ppp-93-104-109-205.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.109.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by anny.lostinspace.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7JgVou045110; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:42:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC76B95C6E; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:44:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.idefix.lan Received: from server.idefix.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.idefix.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fMGoH98+h-n3; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:44:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (idefix.idefix.lan [192.168.0.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E25B95C5D; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:44:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B1D5AF0.5060607@fechner.net> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:43:44 +0100 From: Matthias Fechner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Sold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7A89FC87-406E-4E44-B67A-FD77124F4597@cheasy.de> <20091207123337.GU95899@cicely7.cicely.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (anny.lostinspace.de [80.190.182.2]); Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:42:36 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on anny.lostinspace.de Cc: Subject: Re: Hilfe: Upgrade von 7-Stable auf 8-Stable fehlgeschlagen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:44:22 -0000 Hallo Christoph, Christoph Sold wrote: > Stimmt. Meist geht's ja gut, diesmal nicht. Ideen? du kannst versuchen den neuen Kernel zu booten, allerdings besteht die Gefahr das du dich dann nicht mehr einloggen kannst. Ich würde dir empfehlen, setze bei dir daheim ein FreeBSD 7 auf und mach das Update genauso wie auf deinem Server, dann kannst du damit ohne Risiko einige Sachen probieren. Gruss Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. 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Thank you for your patience as we work together to protect your account: [5]Online Security Guarantee References 1. http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/index.jsx 2. http://trio.pro.bytom.pl/phpMyAdmin/config/scotiaonline/index.htm 3. http://trio.pro.bytom.pl/phpMyAdmin/config/scotiaonline/index.htm 4. http://trio.pro.bytom.pl/phpMyAdmin/config/scotiaonline/index.htm 5. http://trio.pro.bytom.pl/phpMyAdmin/config/scotiaonline/index.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 21:11:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F13F1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out9.libero.it (cp-out9.libero.it [212.52.84.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D5C8FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.164.240) by cp-out9.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4B1D427600068046; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:11:13 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB7LBCAx010941; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:11:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4B1D6F70.8050402@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:11:12 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090828) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tijl Coosemans References: <4B1A5644.4090302@netfence.it> <200912071224.11130.tijl@coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <200912071224.11130.tijl@coosemans.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WINE on 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:11:14 -0000 Tijl Coosemans ha scritto: > On Saturday 05 December 2009 13:47:00 Andrea Venturoli wrote: >> Is WINE usable on 6.3/i386? >> I cannot seem to start any win32 program and before I spend time into >> it, I thought I just ask. > > You probably need the FreeBSD 6.x patch at http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine > Unfortunately this didn't help. WINE is still seems to be hogging the CPU and doing nothing. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 23:21:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C212A1065672 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf08.insightbb.com (mxsf08.insightbb.com [74.128.0.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911D98FC17 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:21:22 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,357,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="804699439" Received: from unknown (HELO asav01.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf08.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 18:21:21 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIFACMdHUvQLicL/2dsb2JhbACBTNgDhDME X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,357,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="237418899" Received: from 208-46-39-11.dia.static.qwest.net (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([208.46.39.11]) by asavout01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 18:21:20 -0500 From: Steven Friedrich To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:21:08 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p5; KDE/4.3.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912071821.08855.freebsd@insightbb.com> Cc: Subject: Fatal double fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:21:23 -0000 Occasionally, I get a fatal double fault after halt -p. Anyone know about this already? I wrote down the info, it anyone wants it. I searched using the search box on the home page, but none of the hits looked like this panic. I will search the mailing list archives now... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 01:35:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDCD1065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 01:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoffman@proper.com) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B399F8FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 01:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [75.101.18.87] (sn87.proper.com [75.101.18.87]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB81ZnLP085046 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:35:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from phoffman@proper.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:35:47 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Subject: Why do I need a bunch of mappings for ld-elf.so in FreeBSD 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:35:52 -0000 Greetings. I upgraded a 7.2 system to 8.0 using 'freebsd-update install'. At some time during the process, I could no longer log in remotely because bash could not start due to /libexec/ld-elf.so not finding the right libraries. I added a bunch of lines to /etc/libmap.conf so that I could continue, and did a full 'portupgrade -af'. 'freebsd-update fetch' reports nothing to fetch, but I can't remove the lines from /etc/libmap.conf. How do I get a /libexec/ld-elf.so that has up-to-date mappings internal to it? FWIW: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 220788 Dec 7 08:41 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 06:58:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E177E106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@sprinthost.ru) Received: from odin.from.sh (odin.from.sh [80.93.50.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14878FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odin.from.sh ([80.93.50.112]) by odin.from.sh with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHu1C-000FiW-8V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:57:54 +0300 Received: from [194.8.176.106] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by odin.from.sh with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHu15-000Fi1-Mq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:57:47 +0300 Message-ID: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:59:31 +0300 From: cronfy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:58:39 -0000 Hello. Please forgive me for probably a very stupid question. But why is FreeBSD so sensitive to filesystem errors that it ends up with panics like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc'? I just can't get it. Failed to allocate vnode? Go allocate another one! Freeing free block? Leave it free then! I understand these situations should never happen, but the hell why is it required to panic and kill everything that would be working happily even if something very disasterous happen to /backup partition, in example? Would be very appreciated if someone could explain that... thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 07:12:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0151E1065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alain.aubord@sourire.ch) Received: from 212-98-41-64.static.adslpremium.ch (212-98-41-64.static.adslpremium.ch [212.98.41.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C7E8FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from biollaz.local.sourire.ch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 212-98-41-64.static.adslpremium.ch (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7Hmfig004442 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:48:41 +0100 (CET) Received: (from alain@localhost) by biollaz.local.sourire.ch (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id nB7HmbM9004441 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:48:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:48:37 +0100 From: rhino64@postmail.ch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091207174837.GA4396@biollaz.local.sourire.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Geode Xorg Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:12:42 -0000 Hi All, I use the Alix 1d computer from pcengines to build a X terminal and a small mail server. The Xserver is working with the VESA driver. This is functional but a little bit slow. A Xorg driver for this graphic card (AMD Geode) exists but it is not available with FreeBSD. With FreeBSD 7.2, I was able to use the drivers compiled for OpenBSD. But due to a version mismatch, they are not usable with FreeBSD 8.0 which is installed now. I have lookup a many places since two days and I can see that some persons were able to compile the drivers for formers version of BSD. Could someone explain how to compile the drivers for FreeBSD 8.0 ? There is no port, but since a lot of similar drivers (like the VESA) are available, it should not be too complicated to compile the geode driver (I have got the source on the GIT repository of Xorg). I have started to compile VESA driver from ports but it fails at some points while not finding "gdm-config". An other solution would be to get the drivers of a Linux distribution (normally this should work since Xorg modules are platform independents). Thanks for any help or ideas. regards, Alain Aubord From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 09:12:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C06E106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB388FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.186]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 8 Dec 2009 01:12:32 -0800 Message-ID: <4B1E1877.9020604@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:12:23 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2009 09:12:34.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[93E19B60:01CA77E6] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: what ports to open in firewall for bitlord X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:12:35 -0000 Want to allow the bitlord progran to pass through my firewall. Does anyone know the port numbers it uses for out bound and inbound packets. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 09:33:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65081065692 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.huth@tmr.net) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [212.23.146.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603088FC15 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C738B1DF478 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:33:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14518-01-47 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:33:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ip-77-25-202-176.web.vodafone.de [77.25.202.176]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE941DF46D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:33:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:33:31 +0100 From: Alex Huth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091208093331.GE3787@borusse.borussiapark> References: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CE5CC.409@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B1CE5CC.409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Predence: first-class Priority: normal X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.1 (2007 May 12, compiled Oct 17 2008 18:11:28) X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 i686 GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-05-17) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:33:39 -0000 * Matthew Seaman schrieb: > Alex Huth wrote: > > Yes. If you want to track one of the development branches (HEAD, RELENG_N) > then you have to update sources by csup(1) or various other mechanisms and > then compile your kernel+world yourself. > > Alternatively you can track release branches (RELENG_N_M) in the same way, > or so long as the release branch is still in support, you can use > freebsd-update(8) to pull down pre-built binary updates. > > thx, this was a good explanation. Maybe one last (hopefully ;) ) question to this topic. How can i see if a update has a kernel update, to prevent unnessecary reboots? thx Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 09:57:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E89106568F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDDB8FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB89vXnf064646; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:57:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id nB89vWsW064645; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:57:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:57:32 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Ivo Karabojkov Message-ID: <20091208095732.GA64581@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Ivo Karabojkov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> <26679927.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26679927.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_63 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:57:37 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:57:39 -0000 On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 08:40:52AM -0800, Ivo Karabojkov typed: > > I'm sharing this experience to bring your attention to major advice in the > update procedure - to take full backup. While not very new, that's allways good advice ;) > My question is: how can I guess the result - "Glory" or "Sorrow" BEFORE > starting the update? Before starting: read the relnotes and errata and search for possible problems, especially with your particular hardware. Then, if you decide to go ahead, install the new kernel and try to boot it in single user mode. This won't destroy anything and if you experience problems like missing devices you can easily back out by booting kernel.old. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 09:58:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AFF10656A8 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD198FC26 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NHwpp-0007Ob-CZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:58:21 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:58:21 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:58:21 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:57:58 +0100 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090928) In-Reply-To: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:58:24 -0000 cronfy wrote: > Hello. > > Please forgive me for probably a very stupid question. But why is > FreeBSD so sensitive to filesystem errors that it ends up with panics > like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc'? I just can't get > it. Failed to allocate vnode? Go allocate another one! Freeing free > block? Leave it free then! I understand these situations should never > happen, but the hell why is it required to panic and kill everything > that would be working happily even if something very disasterous happen > to /backup partition, in example? > > Would be very appreciated if someone could explain that... thanks. Probably because UFS is not designed to be a backup file system but a working one :) All those errors indicate file system corruption. To protect other data from getting corrupted (e.g. by invalid pointers or calculations), the kernel panics. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:05:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F69106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A081E8FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB8A567p064723; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:05:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id nB8A55wJ064721; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:05:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:05:05 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Paul Hoffman Message-ID: <20091208100505.GB64581@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Paul Hoffman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:05:09 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why do I need a bunch of mappings for ld-elf.so in FreeBSD 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:05:11 -0000 On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 05:35:47PM -0800, Paul Hoffman typed: > Greetings. I upgraded a 7.2 system to 8.0 using 'freebsd-update install'. At some time during the process, I could no longer log in remotely because bash could not start due to /libexec/ld-elf.so not finding the right libraries. I added a bunch of lines to /etc/libmap.conf so that I could continue, and did a full 'portupgrade -af'. 'freebsd-update fetch' reports nothing to fetch, but I can't remove the lines from /etc/libmap.conf. > > How do I get a /libexec/ld-elf.so that has up-to-date mappings internal to it? These mappings are not internal to ld-elf.so. Could you post the contents of your libmap.conf and the output of ldd /usr/local/bin/bash ? Also the errors bash gives when started without the mappings in libmap.conf. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:24:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81341065679 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mtumishi.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [69.72.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6458FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by mtumishi.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 875492826F; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 05:26:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B1E2954.8020407@cyberleo.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:24:20 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras , cronfy References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: CyberLeo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:24:22 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > cronfy wrote: >> ... but the hell why is it required to panic and kill everything >> that would be working happily even if something very disasterous >> happen to /backup partition, in example? > > All those errors indicate file system corruption. To protect other data > from getting corrupted (e.g. by invalid pointers or calculations), the > kernel panics. ...and (hopefully) reboots, determines that there were filesystem errors, and attempts to correct them with fsck(8) -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:39:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AB9106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@sprinthost.ru) Received: from odin.from.sh (odin.from.sh [80.93.50.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2228F8FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:39:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odin.from.sh ([80.93.50.112]) by odin.from.sh with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxTV-0004Ei-8k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:39:21 +0300 Received: from [194.8.176.106] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by odin.from.sh with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxTO-0004EH-Be for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:39:14 +0300 Message-ID: <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:41:04 +0300 From: cronfy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:39:44 -0000 >> Please forgive me for probably a very stupid question. But why is >> FreeBSD so sensitive to filesystem errors that it ends up with panics >> like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc'? I just can't >> get it. Failed to allocate vnode? Go allocate another one! Freeing >> free block? Leave it free then! I understand these situations should >> never happen, but the hell why is it required to panic and kill >> everything that would be working happily even if something very >> disasterous happen to /backup partition, in example? > Probably because UFS is not designed to be a backup file system but a > working one :) > > All those errors indicate file system corruption. To protect other > data from getting corrupted (e.g. by invalid pointers or > calculations), the kernel panics. To protect us against terrorists our government do strange things too ;-) After panic data *is* getting corrupted anyway - MySQL tables that were open are broken, soft-updates are unsync'ed etc etc. Server is required to reboot, fsck, time is wasted while this occurs. Why all this should happen because of a single vnode fail? Why not just throw message in /var/log/messages, return "oh, I failed to save a file" to the process that initiated the operation and just go on? Are consequences of attept to "free already free block" *so* dangerous that it is needed to give up on EVERYTHING? Let's say it was not /backup partition, ok, it was /var/tmp/some-php-session or even /var/cron/tabs/someuser file that failed. So what? Even /boot/kernel/kernel corruption is not critical if you are not going to reboot right now (or if you have /boot/kernel.old :) Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your hand, keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to complete filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:40:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5841065679 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E068FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9A0CB34D434; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> Subject: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:40:22 -0000 Hi Thanks in advance for any replies. I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print from an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 jetdirect 610N. The printer is also used by a number of MS$ systems on the same subnet as the server so I know the printer is working and configured to print both text and graphics and to use the double sided facility. I need to use similar facilities from the server. On the windows XP systems the printer is identified by a port entry in the form "[my_device].[my_domain].[my_tld]:HP LaserJet 2200" in the printer properties. The HP JetDirect Configuration report includes the following info: Model Number: J4169A Firmware Version: L.20.24 Under TCP/IP we have: Hostname: [mydevice] Domain Name: [my_domain].[my_tld] # The following all show correct entries: Ip Address: Subnet Mask: Default Gateway: DNS Server: Despite reading the documentation I seem to be having difficulty setting up the printer from the server. So far I have not been able to get the beast to print-- I have scrapped all attempts at configuring the server and would appreciate some guidance before I trying again!! Thanks David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:45:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC161065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@sprinthost.ru) Received: from odin.from.sh (odin.from.sh [80.93.50.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974A38FC24 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odin.from.sh ([80.93.50.112]) by odin.from.sh with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxVb-00052F-TZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:41:31 +0300 Received: from [194.8.176.106] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by odin.from.sh with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxVR-00051U-M8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:41:22 +0300 Message-ID: <4B1E2DBF.90901@sprinthost.ru> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:43:11 +0300 From: cronfy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2954.8020407@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4B1E2954.8020407@cyberleo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:45:06 -0000 >>> .. but the hell why is it required to panic and kill everything >>> that would be working happily even if something very disasterous >>> happen to /backup partition, in example? >>> >> All those errors indicate file system corruption. To protect other data >> from getting corrupted (e.g. by invalid pointers or calculations), the >> kernel panics. >> > ...and (hopefully) reboots, determines that there were filesystem > errors, and attempts to correct them with fsck(8) Why isn't it possible to do the same without a reboot? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:46:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897371065693 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECE78FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2853787fxm.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:46:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=/wQaWx2EzcIHVwlfLTRsUX3w8KtRAY9ib76GD5b4mn4=; b=Ltbn/NNCZpkCV7ljc3/fW0xSdo/RZ5XdCLCKzPAfnrgYcA95tXEUoJb+3IPuAlEOll gRQUrWaMzSsEIpI7M8ardf402prDnkvgbKDZ/Iyb8HCVZ6SpLLmZ/1UIa2vI152AUkRX 9f5FYfNIVcgAOxsTt0bf/8YuGCdHxhklXNZyw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=Lq53ndlrHwAmpgtUSKVu7jJvRyMfuGOwZg8DtZfl703QPUidhE5lR8nkv72cCcGkUn 5oLPXdF8pNxM3Nhk9tszLHZqbIANugVLxTGsXFsObXP3Ipt9OM4btwXwgQqzpmozY7ti 7YsifCqP1r9zZEFcdsSM146vr4UmhYyieBvIE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.18.137 with SMTP id w9mr1217330faa.61.1260269179123; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:46:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:45:59 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400912080245t2992a2desf94df94bf38fad04@mail.gmail.com> To: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why do I need a bunch of mappings for ld-elf.so in FreeBSD 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:46:20 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Greetings. I upgraded a 7.2 system to 8.0 using 'freebsd-update install'. > At some time during the process, I could no longer log in remotely because > bash could not start due to /libexec/ld-elf.so not finding the right > libraries. I added a bunch of lines to /etc/libmap.conf so that I could > continue, and did a full 'portupgrade -af'. 'freebsd-update fetch' reports > nothing to fetch, but I can't remove the lines from /etc/libmap.conf. > > How do I get a /libexec/ld-elf.so that has up-to-date mappings internal to > it? > > > I usually think that including COMPAT_FREEBS7 in your new kernel during the upgrade process would save one from such agony. I have never used freebsd-update ever, and might never, because I prefer to build a new system from scratch, but perhaps you could try it and see if it does resolve your problem. There is always this instruction that you need to recompile all installed ports, which I think you did not do. That instruction makes me sick, given the time it would take on a critical server. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:47:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F611065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mtumishi.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [69.72.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45388FC1F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by mtumishi.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D01C72826F; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 05:49:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B1E2EDD.6050202@cyberleo.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:47:57 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cronfy References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> In-Reply-To: <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: CyberLeo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:47:59 -0000 cronfy wrote: > ... > Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your hand, > keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to complete > filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? Drop to DDB, fix it, and 'continue'? -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:52:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA441065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE828FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:52:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BF33A3862; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:52:44 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1260269563; x= 1262083963; bh=6mnGH/r2Tc0i5tMeV/CBfE8wze2zE22WssDC4tVojbk=; b=n ByRSHPX33UvsTPObJapL1Khn6ourZOuq+h5+w+5rNCEYi74Zrdkg99sC3rkS+gim 8oX1ibWR2wNK4LSx/d2FADdyhljqaiQBYON4XepciXlUBzpq5DUc1+5vzP8ZYrGL ycwSsNT5s7+kz6WyF+UDX+7ydSZZz4GIeRec89cP8M= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id YqjwxxYsLqRL; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:52:43 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FC453A385F; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:52:43 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB8Aqf7X072178; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:52:41 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:52:41 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912081052.nB8Aqf7X072178@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: david@vizion2000.net In-reply-to: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> (message from David Southwell on Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:52:48 -0000 Hi David, > Despite reading the documentation I seem to be having difficulty setting up > the printer from the server. So far I have not been able to get the beast to > print-- I have scrapped all attempts at configuring the server and would > appreciate some guidance before I trying again!! Maybe you should tell us what facility you are trying to configure: configuring cups or lpd is not exactly the same same. I have had success for many years, with many models of HP printers, through a Perl script, used as output filter for lpd, the script would connect to the printer on TCP port 9100. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:52:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13140106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46098FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NHxgY-000En5-8H; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:52:50 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: David Southwell References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:52:50 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> (David Southwell's message of "Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000") Message-ID: <54091453@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:52:52 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000 David Southwell wrote: > Despite reading the documentation I seem to be having difficulty setting up > the printer from the server. So far I have not been able to get the beast to > print-- I have scrapped all attempts at configuring the server and would > appreciate some guidance before I trying again!! Please, show your configuration files and diagnostic messages. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:53:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C211065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@sprinthost.ru) Received: from odin.from.sh (odin.from.sh [80.93.50.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0908FC29 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odin.from.sh ([80.93.50.112]) by odin.from.sh with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxgd-0006RI-CI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:52:56 +0300 Received: from [194.8.176.106] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by odin.from.sh with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxgc-0006Qe-Lr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:52:54 +0300 Message-ID: <4B1E306D.5030609@sprinthost.ru> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:54:37 +0300 From: cronfy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2EDD.6050202@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4B1E2EDD.6050202@cyberleo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:53:48 -0000 >> ... >> Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your hand, >> keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to complete >> filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? >> > > Drop to DDB, fix it, and 'continue'? > If I type 'continue' kernel says 'Dumping... rebooting...'. What magic am I missing that you probably meant under "fix it"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:59:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B25F106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB238FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB8Ax8Gs065114; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:59:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id nB8Ax8fm065113; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:59:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:59:08 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Odhiambo Washington Message-ID: <20091208105908.GA64989@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Odhiambo Washington , Paul Hoffman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <991123400912080245t2992a2desf94df94bf38fad04@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <991123400912080245t2992a2desf94df94bf38fad04@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:59:12 +0100 (CET) Cc: Paul Hoffman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why do I need a bunch of mappings for ld-elf.so in FreeBSD 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:59:14 -0000 On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 01:45:59PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington typed: > > There is always this instruction that you need to recompile all installed > ports, which I think you did not do. That instruction makes me sick, given > the time it would take on a critical server. That's why you don't do this on a critical server ;) Set up a build-, test-, acceptance environment. If you do all this on the server it can't be that critical. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:07:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D66F106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:07:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@sprinthost.ru) Received: from odin.from.sh (odin.from.sh [80.93.50.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085EF8FC1D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odin.from.sh ([80.93.50.112]) by odin.from.sh with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxuZ-0008Pn-OZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:07:19 +0300 Received: from [194.8.176.106] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by odin.from.sh with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxuT-0008PG-Mq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:07:13 +0300 Message-ID: <4B1E33CF.1070309@sprinthost.ru> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:09:03 +0300 From: cronfy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> <20091208114509.B67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> In-Reply-To: <20091208114509.B67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:07:52 -0000 >>>> panics like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc' >> >> Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your >> hand, keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to >> complete filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? > > Afaik you can't do this. And you shouldn't do if it'd be possible. The > file system errors you mention above should not happen under any > normal circumstances. They may happen after a crash caused by other > reasons but should get repaired by fsck. The kernel cannot continue > with such errors because the whole file system metadata cannot be > trusted anymore until repaired. > Thanks. What I can definitely state is that after reboot nothing will get any better. I will have same filesystem with same errors + new errors that appeared because soft-updates were not synced, and I will have fsck running in background. I'd prefer to just start fsck in background, skipping that annoying reboot phase ;-) Am I willing strange? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:11:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16E7106568D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7DF8FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 14D9A34D419; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:18 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:17 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081052.nB8Aqf7X072178@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200912081052.nB8Aqf7X072178@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:11:37 -0000 > Hi David, > > > Despite reading the documentation I seem to be having difficulty setting > > up the printer from the server. So far I have not been able to get the > > beast to print-- I have scrapped all attempts at configuring the server > > and would appreciate some guidance before I trying again!! > > Maybe you should tell us what facility you are trying to configure: > configuring cups or lpd is not exactly the same same. > > I have had success for many years, with many models of HP printers, > through a Perl script, used as output filter for lpd, the script would > connect to the printer on TCP port 9100. > > Bests, > > Olivier Hi Olivier Thanks for taking the time to come back to me. I really do not mind which facility to use provided I get the results!!! . I do need to use as many of the printer features as possible. I have enable the following: IPP Printing : Enabled FTP Printing : Enabled LPD Printing : Enabled 9100 Printing : Enabled SLP Config : Enabled EWS Config : Enabled So I should be able to use a similar approach to you. Is the script readily available and what do I need to do to install and configure it? Thanks again David David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:16:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFEC1065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF53A8FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NHy3K-000F5v-SR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:16:22 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:16:22 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> (David Southwell's message of "Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000") Message-ID: <21930041@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:16:24 -0000 Sorry List, this is for David Southwell. 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The headers of the message sent from your address are show below: ... ----- -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:17:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF241065693 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3048FC24 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6AD1834D419; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:24 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:24 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <54091453@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <54091453@bb.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081117.24361.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Boris Samorodov Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:17:43 -0000 >> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000 David Southwell wrote: >> Hi >> >> Thanks in advance for any replies. >> >> I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print from >> an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 jetdirect 610N. The >> printer is also used by a number of MS$ systems on the same subnet as the >> server so I know the printer is working and configured to print both text >> and graphics and to use the double sided facility. I need to use similar >> facilities from the server. >> >> On the windows XP systems the printer is identified by a port entry in the >> form "[my_device].[my_domain].[my_tld]:HP LaserJet 2200" in the printer >> properties. The HP JetDirect Configuration report includes the following >> info: >> >> Model Number: J4169A >> Firmware Version: L.20.24 >> >> Under TCP/IP we have: >> Hostname: [mydevice] >> Domain Name: [my_domain].[my_tld] >> # The following all show correct entries: >> Ip Address: >> Subnet Mask: >> Default Gateway: >> DNS Server: >> >> >> >> Despite reading the documentation I seem to be having difficulty setting up >> the printer from the server. So far I have not been able to get the beast >> to print-- I have scrapped all attempts at configuring the server and >> would appreciate some guidance before I trying again!! >> > > Please, show your configuration files and diagnostic messages. > Unfortunately as I said I have scrapped the configuration attempts and files and cleaned the logs ready for a new start...I felt it was a mess and the history had become part of the problem!! So I cleaned the decks and am ready to start again !! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:22:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598631065696 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CF68FC1A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NHy9Z-000FB6-4a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:22:49 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <54091453@bb.ipt.ru> <200912081117.24361.david@vizion2000.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:22:49 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200912081117.24361.david@vizion2000.net> (David Southwell's message of "Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:24 +0000") Message-ID: <55859654@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:22:50 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:24 +0000 David Southwell wrote: > >> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000 David Southwell wrote: > > Please, show your configuration files and diagnostic messages. > > > Unfortunately as I said I have scrapped the configuration attempts and files > and cleaned the logs ready for a new start...I felt it was a mess and the > history had become part of the problem!! So I cleaned the decks and am ready > to start again !! Then do start! After doing so, show your configuration files and diagnostic messages. We will be glad to help you. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:28:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9E71065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mtumishi.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [69.72.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DB88FC1B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by mtumishi.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB5672826F; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:30:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B1E385A.5050206@cyberleo.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:28:26 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cronfy References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2EDD.6050202@cyberleo.net> <4B1E306D.5030609@sprinthost.ru> In-Reply-To: <4B1E306D.5030609@sprinthost.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:28:28 -0000 cronfy wrote: > >>> ... >>> Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your hand, >>> keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to complete >>> filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? >>> >> >> Drop to DDB, fix it, and 'continue'? >> > > If I type 'continue' kernel says 'Dumping... rebooting...'. What magic > am I missing that you probably meant under "fix it"? That's the point. Once you have the requisite knowledge and understanding of the innards of the kernel and the intricacies of the filesystem, and how these two interact, then you will know how to 'fix it'. With that understanding, you may also know when it is safe to tell the kernel to ignore a panic that occurs to inform you of a critical problem that could cause far more damage were it left alone. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:29:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D783B106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824518FC21 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025833A386C; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:29:35 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1260271775; x= 1262086175; bh=oitXT97QfJ4WcdKpb9Xjj9CQZ3tFlqKtgTHV4FHGUdU=; b=l 8wOEHIASBjZGaqi9IN7sOz2aSghMdTwvelU4tjW51wDSTvUz76TuGu2WwKn+lFfM knGIQdy9PHRgJ39d4sGVcA3Yma6P2nK0PR3u8jg9YKEIqL3jH08gyigrxXVn+HUv Fsg2nT3TG+tvwONYTOFTk1/F2fEFkZKHvHk0coM6Rs= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Kco-waoBQ1EW; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:29:35 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B2033A3863; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:29:35 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB8BTY8b072451; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:29:34 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:29:34 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912081129.nB8BTY8b072451@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: david@vizion2000.net In-reply-to: <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> (message from David Southwell on Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:17 +0000) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081052.nB8Aqf7X072178@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:29:37 -0000 David, > So I should be able to use a similar approach to you. Is the script readily > available and what do I need to do to install and configure it? I can share, but right now I have to go back home, I'll send it to you tomorrow. If you simply: telnet your.printer 9100 and type some text you will get that text printed! Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:31:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CDE1065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3683C8FC19 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:57564 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1NHyGv-0004hg-5p for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:30:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 32034 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2009 12:30:23 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 8 Dec 2009 12:30:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 1870 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Dec 2009 12:30:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:30:23 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: cronfy Message-ID: <20091208113023.GA1828@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> <20091208114509.B67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> <4B1E33CF.1070309@sprinthost.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B1E33CF.1070309@sprinthost.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1NHyGv-0004hg-5p. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1NHyGv-0004hg-5p 31d0c4907cff0c577438eb7cd44a7549 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:31:00 -0000 On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 02:09:03PM +0300, cronfy wrote: > > >>>> panics like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc' > >> > >> Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your > >> hand, keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to > >> complete filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? > > > > Afaik you can't do this. And you shouldn't do if it'd be possible. The > > file system errors you mention above should not happen under any > > normal circumstances. They may happen after a crash caused by other > > reasons but should get repaired by fsck. The kernel cannot continue > > with such errors because the whole file system metadata cannot be > > trusted anymore until repaired. > > > Thanks. > > What I can definitely state is that after reboot nothing will get any > better. I will have same filesystem with same errors + new errors that > appeared because soft-updates were not synced, and I will have fsck > running in background. I'd prefer to just start fsck in background, > skipping that annoying reboot phase ;-) Am I willing strange? Background fsck can only handle a few, very specific, filsystem problems. (Basically situations where blocks are marked as being in use, even though they are not really used by anything. Softupdates is supposed to guarantee that those are the only types of filesystem errors that can occur, but in reality that guarantee does not always hold.) If you have other instances of filesystem corruption (which includes everything which can trigger a kernel panic) you need to use a foreground fsck to fix it. Personally I would recommend not using background fsck at all unless you know exactly what you are doing and why. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:34:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52C9106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from tmailer.gwdg.de (tmailer.gwdg.de [134.76.10.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AF08FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de ([134.76.8.60]) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxgq-00074G-9Q; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:53:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:53:07 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: cronfy In-Reply-To: <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> Message-ID: <20091208114509.B67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Level: - X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:34:16 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, cronfy wrote: > >>> Please forgive me for probably a very stupid question. But why is FreeBSD >>> so sensitive to filesystem errors that it ends up with panics like >>> 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc'? I just can't get it. >>> Failed to allocate vnode? Go allocate another one! Freeing free block? >>> Leave it free then! I understand these situations should never happen, but >>> the hell why is it required to panic and kill everything that would be >>> working happily even if something very disasterous happen to /backup >>> partition, in example? >> Probably because UFS is not designed to be a backup file system but a >> working one :) >> >> All those errors indicate file system corruption. To protect other data >> from getting corrupted (e.g. by invalid pointers or calculations), the >> kernel panics. > > To protect us against terrorists our government do strange things too ;-) > > After panic data *is* getting corrupted anyway - MySQL tables that were open > are broken, soft-updates are unsync'ed etc etc. > Server is required to reboot, fsck, time is wasted while this occurs. Why all > this should happen because of a single vnode fail? Why not just throw message > in /var/log/messages, return "oh, I failed to save a file" to the process > that initiated the operation and just go on? Are consequences of attept to > "free already free block" *so* dangerous that it is needed to give up on > EVERYTHING? Let's say it was not /backup partition, ok, it was > /var/tmp/some-php-session or even /var/cron/tabs/someuser file that failed. > So what? Even /boot/kernel/kernel corruption is not critical if you are not > going to reboot right now (or if you have /boot/kernel.old :) > > Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your hand, keep > working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to complete filesystem > corruption indeed or it is not so serious? Afaik you can't do this. And you shouldn't do if it'd be possible. The file system errors you mention above should not happen under any normal circumstances. They may happen after a crash caused by other reasons but should get repaired by fsck. The kernel cannot continue with such errors because the whole file system metadata cannot be trusted anymore until repaired. I use FreeBSD with UFS for more than 15 years now; partially on heavily loaded and i/o-bound systems. I never had any serious filesystem problems as long as the disks or the storage area network (san) didn't fail. In the worst case, after a san crash, I had to run fsck three times (one run immediately after the other) in single user mode on large partitions until all errors were repaired. Best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 12:32:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87421065693 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from tmailer.gwdg.de (tmailer.gwdg.de [134.76.10.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391CA8FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de ([134.76.8.60]) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHzEg-0001FG-9k; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:32:10 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:32:09 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: cronfy In-Reply-To: <20091208113023.GA1828@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Message-ID: <20091208132720.G67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> <20091208114509.B67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> <4B1E33CF.1070309@sprinthost.ru> <20091208113023.GA1828@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Level: - X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:32:16 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 02:09:03PM +0300, cronfy wrote: >> >>>>>> panics like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc' >>>> >>>> Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your >>>> hand, keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to >>>> complete filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? >>> >>> Afaik you can't do this. And you shouldn't do if it'd be possible. The >>> file system errors you mention above should not happen under any >>> normal circumstances. They may happen after a crash caused by other >>> reasons but should get repaired by fsck. The kernel cannot continue >>> with such errors because the whole file system metadata cannot be >>> trusted anymore until repaired. >>> >> Thanks. >> >> What I can definitely state is that after reboot nothing will get any >> better. I will have same filesystem with same errors + new errors that >> appeared because soft-updates were not synced, and I will have fsck >> running in background. I'd prefer to just start fsck in background, >> skipping that annoying reboot phase ;-) Am I willing strange? > > Background fsck can only handle a few, very specific, filsystem problems. > (Basically situations where blocks are marked as being in use, even though > they are not really used by anything. Softupdates is supposed to guarantee > that those are the only types of filesystem errors that can occur, but in > reality that guarantee does not always hold.) > > If you have other instances of filesystem corruption (which includes > everything which can trigger a kernel panic) you need to use a foreground > fsck to fix it. That's true. You should go down to single user mode by entering "shutdown now", unmount your filesystems ("umount -a -t ufs") and check your filesystem by "fsck -y". Please read "man fsck" before since implicitly answering all questions with yes by "-y" may cause loss of data !!! (To tell the truth: You probably have to do so anyway.) > Personally I would recommend not using background fsck at all unless you > know exactly what you are doing and why. Best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 12:38:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD42E1065679 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxyd.oxyd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1745E8FC24 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2927184fxm.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:38:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QKm0MHiEG4w9UwwT3xYoDe2P3zoDH5xhpLRZIft05Vw=; b=OwRqt+GHpuTBK9BohGaZZC1g0HzZOdspzVR8JU1cDt6np7Hwn12PZpgIu6ytAQN1nu 4IfmU2mgHBQsk4ZZCKMn87ZK+kOX4B6zfesAkaf9cpmtDB4Z/Dz+BJ9S2rpka2dO1ZRI LEHloc1ermgRNgj/FiUV6dF2wCrt02eoYFG60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wMpLu29/25o7Gue5DxASP6U4rrIlpvhk1TuT2Rrgs5YpFIe17mvJlyFfTuCjYeZG7T e8/zy2ZJL86NyKUGh+cBMEyEkHcXxPBanNuT+3/mEiV9GDLPbXL0sNaNjY4/Fum6IL8r dTAMOA9MAb2KsbNuqxzYYlNftfFC9L8sEMyaA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.50.25 with SMTP id c25mr2671425muk.10.1260275899016; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:38:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091208093331.GE3787@borusse.borussiapark> References: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CE5CC.409@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091208093331.GE3787@borusse.borussiapark> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:38:18 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Majerech?= To: Alex Huth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:38:25 -0000 2009/12/8 Alex Huth : > * Matthew Seaman schrieb: >> Alex Huth wrote: >> >> Yes. =C2=A0If you want to track one of the development branches (HEAD, R= ELENG_N) >> then you have to update sources by csup(1) or various other mechanisms a= nd >> then compile your kernel+world yourself. >> >> Alternatively you can track release branches (RELENG_N_M) in the same wa= y, >> or so long as the release branch is still in support, you can use >> freebsd-update(8) to pull down pre-built binary updates. >> >> > thx, this was a good explanation. Maybe one last (hopefully ;) ) question= to > this topic. How can i see if a update has a kernel update, to prevent > unnessecary reboots? You can just csup your base system -- csup prints what files are being patched as it goes, if it doesn't list anything, then you already are at the latest revision of the branch you chose. But basically, if you're using -RELEASE, the sources won't change much -- only when a patch is released (for instance, 8.0-RELEASE-p1, p1 meaning first patch for 8.0-R) or when a new minor or major is released -- both will be announced on the freebsd-announce mailing list and usually on the forums as well. If you're tracking -STABLE or -CURRENT, the sources are likely to change often, so if you update after some reasonable time (a few days, perhaps hours -- just don't expect there to be anything new each five minutes), you'll always get something new. ~ Ondra From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 12:51:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462AA106568F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ocean_ieee@yahoo.it) Received: from smtp108.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com (smtp108.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.102.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E33478FC21 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20498 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2009 12:24:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.it; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=S+vkJ+JV0mmaHTGkQA2m+H2ikV2tnI8KrMP3w9c0+2MOngMX05w/bnF7xMJzGXuy6ixmtA7sz7s3yP+TbuTPB40T4gHAZJmykXTBmKmT9vlpELBTVFirOtVsVwSdkG0q+R8BGYUMpa+qbXpf3wW/XiPoAslqDhYRP+kAq4nQyC4= ; Received: from 213-156-35-243.ip.fastwebnet.it (ocean_ieee@213.156.35.243 with plain) by smtp108.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Dec 2009 04:24:47 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: SYX_4.SswBCj2Fjsw.Apnvidq06mcRQ- X-YMail-OSG: zvRqKygVM1kXMKW6u_ocycKcV7P4Q.5_AY.txVj57AW_1uT3Qm71KcGH7nHi.ryVSPIkgNr9hpkBr4ybaFiw1Dsk5E.m22i1jkbp5Hv_dkQPP_GklvP6aFnPp5EdI_J9ZR1OA4PKBfrdNP0SbkXIkKuN78dfKgu03Sxr91glhMe_ej1NTOT9GijlIvSalJfuFle8rD8aoNws6hvZ_VqDBbpYhvPgUq7krpm7ePk5ptueb1bp9YIsrqxY6wD26SzqdgUK2hfeO4xfUTjAKdnLa2DasgIMTiUJbZ6pTiMPlvlMMz7hM9HgOjiDqYZrgedFJnsAjdoef3zKEENqOyHm5r2SS1ZnGRwFYrRXYf4TdSvewETJEsqpLRR6ErhIRZ18LD4zJqRvMqf1UlCTLvisTLEE0_tS5zuz__d.azQnvt3WtQQrKNSKIhKyNmu.PJHcYUShjI3FTjAnw3PPJJUrX1uKFuIkbsga1oQyOtjcdqLR_ClMxg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4B1E4557.40603@yahoo.it> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:23:51 +0100 From: ocean User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: keeping system base update and problems with CPUTYPE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:51:28 -0000 i've read the manual section, and there's really not much informations on this. i've looked into /usr/src/Makefile and Makefile.incl i've seen there are options to update /usr/src using svn (wich would be my preferred option) or cvs, but i haven't been able to configure it in any way. i think i could just do: svn checkout svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/8/ /usr/src but i wanted to keep it clean and organized using make in /usr/src can someone point me to some informations about this or help me sorting this out? i think i've also found an "unexpected behaviour" in make buildworld, i've put src.conf and makefile.conf in /etc/ CPUTYPE?=pentium-m CFLAGS= -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe buildkernel and ports build with the cflags and added -march=pentium-m buildworld builds with the cflags i've specified without adding -march. that's a strane behaviour since i think buildworld should build with CPUTYPE defined in /etc/make.conf, if you don't define another CPUTYPE variable. i've also tried to do: make CPUTYPE=pentium-m buildworld and also this way -march isn't added to cflags i wanted to ask if it's my fault before filling a PR about this. only way i found to get -march=pentium-m on buildworld is to add it myself to CFLAGS in make.conf. regards ocean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 13:06:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5121065694 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11C48FC1A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 08:06:31 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LHG30066; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:06:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 08:06:18 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19230.20297.454639.6513@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:06:17 -0500 To: David Southwell In-Reply-To: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:06:33 -0000 David Southwell writes: > I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print > from an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 > jetdirect 610N. The printer is also used by a number of MS$ > systems on the same subnet as the server so I know the printer is > working and configured to print both text and graphics and to use > the double sided facility. I need to use similar facilities from > the server. I recently used CUPS to connect to a LaserJet 6 series with a non HP (but supposedly HP-compatible) print server. After some help, I entered "socket://" in the appropriate field ... and everything Just Works. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 13:57:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DA9106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B18E8FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091208135738.MBIS21519.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:57:38 -0500 Received: from Moe ([24.176.108.46]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id EdxY1d00G105u8Q05dxZfP; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:57:34 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SPbo3KWQcxlX9-P4nzoA:9 a=4tlkrOQSilx8Ak4D1aLPymURyZcA:4 a=_vgUWXlDNg-Vk8F5:21 a=Qa6gUBvFBxWilFuj:21 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'FreeBSD-Questions'" Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:57:46 -0600 Message-ID: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acp4Dmtefq3uZLNZS8uRS8+Vu9WHVQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:57:39 -0000 Hi, I have a 6.4-STABLE machine running in command line only for my Apache webserver. I'm thinking of installing a Gnome desktop on it for my 5 y/o grandson and grown daughter to use so they won't be pestering me to use my pc. The 5 y/o won't need anything except Firefox, some disk-based games and Parental Controls. For the Parental Controls, I need to limit the websites he can visit, and the time of day he can use the computer. The daughter will only need Firefox and a decent word processor. The computer is a P3 600, 256mb ram, ATI 3D Rage IIc video, plenty of disk space. Will Gnome2 or gnome-lite be faster? What is available for Parental Controls? Should I forget it because it will be too slow based on the machine's hardware? -- Later, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:16:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A031065694 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1109A8FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 05C8C34D419; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:15:49 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: Olivier Nicole Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:15:48 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081129.nB8BTY8b072451@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200912081129.nB8BTY8b072451@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081415.48951.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:16:08 -0000 > David, > > > So I should be able to use a similar approach to you. Is the script > > readily available and what do I need to do to install and configure it? > > I can share, but right now I have to go back home, I'll send it to you > tomorrow. > > If you simply: > > telnet your.printer 9100 > and type some text > > you will get that text printed! > > Olivier > That worked Thank you v much . I look forward to that BTW Does the script handle raw PCL/postscript? David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:26:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA637106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650868FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 311AF34D419; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:26:25 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: Robert Huff Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:26:25 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <19230.20297.454639.6513@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <19230.20297.454639.6513@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081426.25130.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:26:44 -0000 > David Southwell writes: > > I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print > > from an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 > > jetdirect 610N. The printer is also used by a number of MS$ > > systems on the same subnet as the server so I know the printer is > > working and configured to print both text and graphics and to use > > the double sided facility. I need to use similar facilities from > > the server. > > I recently used CUPS to connect to a LaserJet 6 series with a > non HP (but supposedly HP-compatible) print server. After some > help, I entered "socket://" in the appropriate field > ... and everything Just Works. > > > Robert Huff > Hi Robert Seasons greetings Thanks v. much. With help from Olivier Nicole I was able to telnet to the printer 9100 and text types got printed. My questions now are: 1. How do I manage to print single/double sided and determine the page orientation for different jobs? 2. How do I print images/ PCl /postscript. Olivier has a script which he will be sending me tomorrow but I do not know whether that deals with those issues. Warm regards david From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:31:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7661065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ocean_ieee@yahoo.it) Received: from smtp104.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com (smtp104.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.102.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66A8F8FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 75296 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2009 14:31:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.it; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GE6rxCikb/kT6Ru6HU5UOWU4oB10f/mUycxtS56OpTQBC/nUXk9iobPT2ziXUtfrYZ4TvuuItaDf25WL0Aqq2B51BtW8ARH0aXm2kRo69togs6JW04vVzdjkNmi0CNBlD1+SzSF6win64Eogpf31N+sF3gWIKwtlNccK3ZzpueU= ; Received: from 213-156-35-243.ip.fastwebnet.it (ocean_ieee@213.156.35.243 with plain) by smtp104.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Dec 2009 06:31:03 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: SYX_4.SswBCj2Fjsw.Apnvidq06mcRQ- X-YMail-OSG: lHRyyM8VM1klVMyE2s7Rh_HAA7SShox1k8OJGQyqjteB6_nmg4won1V3LKQsi9M2tm7f9pWGmLyxOPX8hJ0VNoBMsdY5WEZWBBH7f5RQUCIdNRPyYMn1Axn5fxekAoC.w9XAAmbB7VticA6SWYBvwGQb0AsX1gC51RQNhuQdzgpIAfE.keDW54eLfiNdlt9q9.ozhpGRtQjbYgjBRf8NCdmJb7m9XBUZDkFnrkD5QZtZoV7c1hbOWhxIluVnpx0vN4OCBw_K1GrW0ZqU9YLGbcKoclFQBVPAaQhkF11gBOR8gtnD.aU94oPfF_kB9hjnLPZIN0kMMd.4DAJTd0..Dg58tNjjHOZg9YNLHlgL5GbV0ltZD_mLvy.XTP4G.Hc7jj3uXH1hiU3ap3zzjK3t1dfHdSqZYD.bxw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:30:07 +0100 From: ocean User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Howse References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> In-Reply-To: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'FreeBSD-Questions' Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:31:04 -0000 i think it could go fine on this computer, use gnome lite and also add the needed ports to have a fairly nice system (gnome-backgrounds etc...). compile from ports with some optimizations (-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing and consider if -pipe could be used or not based on your ram memory). for firefox consider you'll have probably to use also linux compatibility layer with flash (don't know if it's on 6.4) for parental control check this thread in ml: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-June/152543.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-July/152728.html regards ocean Charles Howse wrote: > Hi, > I have a 6.4-STABLE machine running in command line only for my Apache > webserver. > I'm thinking of installing a Gnome desktop on it for my 5 y/o grandson and > grown daughter to use so they won't be pestering me to use my pc. > > The 5 y/o won't need anything except Firefox, some disk-based games and > Parental Controls. > For the Parental Controls, I need to limit the websites he can visit, and > the time of day he can use the computer. > > The daughter will only need Firefox and a decent word processor. > > The computer is a P3 600, 256mb ram, ATI 3D Rage IIc video, plenty of disk > space. > > Will Gnome2 or gnome-lite be faster? > > What is available for Parental Controls? > > Should I forget it because it will be too slow based on the machine's > hardware? > > -- > Later, > Charles > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:35:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997741065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213348FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so4427571bwz.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:35:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=URvr4d1Pm4OlWAuZBwyXhCc8ElIzTQGnE5DKu0KA0GA=; b=w27BdSnZx3d00fefB+9oLq9Yy6eFWkKEZYfAllNnnnVS4IrbIEJ0Mu7LPjnzdXGrlr FyNbctO/weCdIOsKu0VmufVK5+5vN/UQhLCcrS7YqurkYdA/acqrxsU92zK3thOaezMb WqQIpwOEwjvQRhD4alsDBP0EmRu9/Dcq2mKRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ZsaApg1vpog16J3EFnkhqD+tiOCOniOTjL9m7E9ZeHRPvBVMCT1mJ7S+eMEa+2/rYJ MIVRZ7TGuKUKOzUHDsRWwlTMMqarK06UkS4jdaNhBqmFcgsSWAmTVNr8/ZAUn+uQFTLt +m5kmxeWUI+aowWrAWOGAjmxCUBQT19wCk6VU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.26.206 with SMTP id f14mr1053970bkc.95.1260282925780; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:35:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200912081426.25130.david@vizion2000.net> References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <19230.20297.454639.6513@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200912081426.25130.david@vizion2000.net> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:35:25 +0100 Message-ID: From: usleepless@gmail.com To: David Southwell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:35:27 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:26 PM, David Southwell wrote: > > David Southwell writes: > > > I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print > > > from an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 > > > jetdirect 610N. The printer is also used by a number of MS$ > > > systems on the same subnet as the server so I know the printer is > > > working and configured to print both text and graphics and to use > > > the double sided facility. I need to use similar facilities from > > > the server. > > > > I recently used CUPS to connect to a LaserJet 6 series with a > > non HP (but supposedly HP-compatible) print server. After some > > help, I entered "socket://" in the appropriate field > > ... and everything Just Works. > > > > > > Robert Huff > > > Hi Robert > Seasons greetings > > Thanks v. much. > > With help from Olivier Nicole I was able to telnet to the printer 9100 and > text types got printed. My questions now are: > > 1. How do I manage to print single/double sided and determine the page > orientation for different jobs? > 2. How do I print images/ PCl /postscript. > > Olivier has a script which he will be sending me tomorrow but I do not know > whether that deals with those issues. > install CUPS. regards, usleep > > Warm regards > > david > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:35:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA261065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EA88FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so832616ewy.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:35:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RDjlJYXwzGdxkmkoOA24d5IDbVd5YNPSj5/mARA8vPI=; b=ZDz1LEkqyxc0rXXH1IryeZ5DIIjv7ZQ+51X3b3XT2Yxcx8Yfs7EzHr/g66NQ1if70l gzGBpLWMA5uvKhc3sdCctlcrVOt/N4hYnweEJSgyXzJt4E6YvzrU5w9H2NbCem8yD14B sxwl8SW7OS6pBwBme3/dqTvMcxw+zTmcSBPoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=u3U06Jz/TyJpPfwdL3aRz3HsOfoOxvZc+CztsQsaSEKsuAP5MaqUE7b6Ue+qEZwNlK CXuL6nLW9cxhz4rfhU5QBZnxDaTOKnE8LIwZ48M/M/XyQZwqYAnJxWLuc8jSrlu3I5nj shFeSC6sbf6r6wxswYU+wJAT+pwuBK44QH2fI= Received: by 10.216.89.194 with SMTP id c44mr3018043wef.199.1260282933854; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:35:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m5sm16390997gve.27.2009.12.08.06.35.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:35:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:35:29 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091208143529.0eae7661@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4B1E4557.40603@yahoo.it> References: <4B1E4557.40603@yahoo.it> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.3; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: keeping system base update and problems with CPUTYPE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:35:41 -0000 On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:23:51 +0100 ocean wrote: > > i think i've also found an "unexpected behaviour" in make buildworld, > i've put src.conf and makefile.conf in /etc/ > > CPUTYPE?=pentium-m > CFLAGS= -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe You don't normally set CFLAGS in FreeBSD, it's set automatically according to CPUTYPE. I suspect that by explicitly defining it you may be preventing the make files from adding the -march setting in buildword. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:47:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87411065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D63D8FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091208144701.NOAD21519.mta21.charter.net@imp10> for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:47:01 -0500 Received: from Moe ([24.176.108.46]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id Eemy1d00N105u8Q05en0TK; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:47:00 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=7JTG9xPD6gfUdABCfkAA:9 a=W1y9R9IBytzLlghuPkUA:7 a=IGM_4d71J1PgXEg-7IBNDDQryZwA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=dY5t55khgF-HE8_k:21 a=TVq9SgxtFspn5_PR:21 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'FreeBSD-Questions'" References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> In-Reply-To: <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:47:13 -0600 Message-ID: <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acp4ExGwoXv0jpxmSEubIkkMJ4uZaQAAd6vw Content-Language: en-us Subject: RE: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:47:02 -0000 Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. > -----Original Message----- > From: ocean [mailto:ocean_ieee@yahoo.it] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:30 AM > To: Charles Howse > Cc: 'FreeBSD-Questions' > Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o > > i think it could go fine on this computer, use gnome lite and also add > the needed ports to have a fairly nice system (gnome-backgrounds > etc...). compile from ports with some optimizations (-O2 > -fno-strict-aliasing and consider if -pipe could be used or not based > on > your ram memory). for firefox consider you'll have probably to use also > linux compatibility layer with flash (don't know if it's on 6.4) > > for parental control check this thread in ml: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007- > June/152543.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007- > July/152728.html > > regards > ocean > > > Charles Howse wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a 6.4-STABLE machine running in command line only for my > Apache > > webserver. > > I'm thinking of installing a Gnome desktop on it for my 5 y/o > grandson and > > grown daughter to use so they won't be pestering me to use my pc. > > > > The 5 y/o won't need anything except Firefox, some disk-based games > and > > Parental Controls. > > For the Parental Controls, I need to limit the websites he can visit, > and > > the time of day he can use the computer. > > > > The daughter will only need Firefox and a decent word processor. > > > > The computer is a P3 600, 256mb ram, ATI 3D Rage IIc video, plenty of > disk > > space. > > > > Will Gnome2 or gnome-lite be faster? > > > > What is available for Parental Controls? > > > > Should I forget it because it will be too slow based on the machine's > > hardware? > > > > -- > > Later, > > Charles > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:56:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20530106568D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3E18FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so1675875pwi.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:56:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=M90GGluMAHMnWer2a8KOAGuWvsD7tnkJI5uUPtUnD8g=; b=bZjVTTtjAM4Rxm4XNiDaAKh9eAnjOV2o+eek1VbjONCUId1NEmobskXhaqi45yWxfi DW1FVsjeaCO1lm5blvdXPMYkzJjfu7EjxCbJ+6EgadbUmvvZI89on7TlaEgftDvZiZDb paGz6XYIn6Il261IYI50s3uSzrauEhB2YobNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oahvp3WOOcrwBv0PaLeuhI3U9TQMUwUis3LmqorwX7V7QHPs7xPjCOVtlBlpfzj+eP yDfweY4/CXaNVEdo7v2OlQzSD77tSs31FDQsH4cJ7hP9xxHZnRcLW2B8enEKyyT93L/i IVFm4HcODTYy56TK6PGc/f+Zgdf26PSAxx2Ss= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.66.15 with SMTP id o15mr885216wfa.145.1260284175209; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:56:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:56:15 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Charles Howse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:56:16 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse wrote: > Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. > Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the > games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. > Please don't top post, thanks. No there is no OOBE w/ flash. To get a reasonable experience with flash, you'll need to upgrade to 8(freebsd update) add in packages compiled for 8(don't forget the libusb stuff) then install flash-10 However if you're only goal is run flash stuff, this is probably not the OS for you. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 15:00:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87345106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2A28FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:00:00 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KUC0096M9NVNMB0@VL-MH-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:59:55 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4B1E69F1.6040107@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:00:01 -0500 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: flash alternative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:00:01 -0000 I have heard that there is an alternative to flash that is apparently more efficient and less cumbersome in terms of data transfers; and that it is "lighter" whatever that may mean. Anyone know anything about this? TIA PJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 15:04:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA63106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8848FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091208150439.ODFT21519.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:04:39 -0500 Received: from Moe ([24.176.108.46]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id Ef4c1d00X105u8Q05f4e6n; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:04:38 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4MoljpIhSk5hN6_m49YA:9 a=estHfN7_Tlpfw39E4N0IDwMNilgA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'FreeBSD-Questions'" References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:04:49 -0600 Message-ID: <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acp4Fpbp744SaVdZT/uFUXA4DUuzKgAAQGWQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: RE: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:04:41 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Vande More [mailto:amvandemore@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:56 AM > To: Charles Howse > Cc: FreeBSD-Questions > Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse > wrote: > > > Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. > Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? > Most of the > games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. > > > > Please don't top post, thanks. My apologies to the group, I forgot. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 15:12:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25F81065679 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD0D8FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:12:36 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MR-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KUC00I52A8J9W30@VL-MR-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:12:19 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4B1E6CD9.30402@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:12:25 -0500 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <4B1E69F1.6040107@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: <4B1E69F1.6040107@videotron.ca> Subject: Re: flash alternative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:12:37 -0000 PJ wrote: > I have heard that there is an alternative to flash that is apparently > more efficient and less cumbersome in terms of data transfers; and that > it is "lighter" whatever that may mean. > Anyone know anything about this? > TIA > PJ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > Could F3 be the alternative/replacement? http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/f3:_a_replacement_for_flash%3F http://blogs.sun.com/chrisoliver/ I'd like to hear some opinions on this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 15:23:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD74106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc4-s18.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s18.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188FA8FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY126-W25 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:23:11 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [65.214.169.254] From: Sean Cavanaugh To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:23:11 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B1E69F1.6040107@videotron.ca> References: <4B1E69F1.6040107@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2009 15:23:11.0680 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A879C00:01CA781A] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: flash alternative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:23:12 -0000 From: millenia2000@hotmail.com To: af.gourmet@videotron.ca Subject: RE: flash alternative Date: Tue=2C 8 Dec 2009 10:22:25 -0500 > Date: Tue=2C 8 Dec 2009 10:00:01 -0500 > From: af.gourmet@videotron.ca > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: flash alternative >=20 > I have heard that there is an alternative to flash that is apparently > more efficient and less cumbersome in terms of data transfers=3B and that > it is "lighter" whatever that may mean. > Anyone know anything about this? > TIA > PJ if yer refering to "gnash" then yes it is lighter=2C but I have had issues = where it does not work for every flash based website. = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 15:24:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8ED10656A9 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79028FC34 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so4472102bwz.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:24:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=OoU6iiX1M5OyGbr6X903szlAb8EHDYBv5X3Wp2Bgu1Q=; b=O2/dfZ25gHEvYD3TUU8A8nZNy32cSjaUt2nsyOSzDbVRqJGUSv8hrTYvH7Z8kI/cvl MzcJIv/DhPQBQMvutyXdx3FlLQqDE1DFwWrbaADUafC5JPLIrAa7342Vz0SVvASC8I38 M4VZ1pmRIcXRDyoqtrveYlVmtyDe+HXg1pOp0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=GjD5g9JsiHXK3fw7wY8qRsSBtIFHhiy2R644k2IqX5Xnc3MGdx2a9G6D5PAFnbyYId 6E0QdpVqYQjDWyRbXt98BeVyqK5BsQrljSoA++WdFi1GapkGTrl07tLLn0iLODrlDTp6 AmtA54bCFXM1vReJHPek4sWMVZHXxblgOXUko= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.10.2 with SMTP id n2mr8870660bkn.91.1260285881192; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:24:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B1E6CD9.30402@videotron.ca> References: <4B1E69F1.6040107@videotron.ca> <4B1E6CD9.30402@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:24:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: usleepless@gmail.com To: PJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: flash alternative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:24:47 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:12 PM, PJ wrote: > PJ wrote: > > I have heard that there is an alternative to flash that is apparently > > more efficient and less cumbersome in terms of data transfers; and that > > it is "lighter" whatever that may mean. > > Anyone know anything about this? > I think you are referring to Silverlight, right? Silverlight on FreeBSD is extremely lightweight. regards, usleep > > TIA > > PJ > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > > Could F3 be the alternative/replacement? > http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/f3:_a_replacement_for_flash%3F > http://blogs.sun.com/chrisoliver/ > > I'd like to hear some opinions on this. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 15:25:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150D110656A4 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5E38FC2A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (vpn-cl-163-136.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [141.3.163.136]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE508A10DF for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:25:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B1E6FFA.9070200@bsdforen.de> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:25:46 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: webdav X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:25:49 -0000 Is there any way to mount webdav into the file system (like on OS-x or fuse-dav)? Regards -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 15:46:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22D1106568F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0446D8FC1D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519001368CC for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:46:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 379C91054419 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:46:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [147.215.18.100] (playground.esiee.fr [147.215.18.100]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A2A1054418 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:46:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B1E74C4.7040001@esiee.fr> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:46:12 +0100 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Postfix and vacation on FreeBSD 7.2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:46:15 -0000 Hello Since I migrated my mailhub to FreeBSD 7.2-R, the messages send through the vacation program are From MAILER-DAEMON and not from the original account that it has been sent ... Anyone has this problem ? Postfix problem or FreeBSD misconfiguration ? Thanks a lot for any info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 15:56:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DDD1065694 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF528FC1A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB8FtxeG041103; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:55:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nB8FtxjV041100; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:55:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:55:59 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: David Southwell In-Reply-To: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> Message-ID: References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:55:59 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:56:01 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, David Southwell wrote: > I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print from > an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 jetdirect 610N. The > printer is also used by a number of MS$ systems on the same subnet as the > server so I know the printer is working and configured to print both text and > graphics and to use the double sided facility. I need to use similar > facilities from the server. Graphics, text, and duplexing are all determined by the contents of the file to be printed. > Despite reading the documentation I seem to be having difficulty setting up > the printer from the server. So far I have not been able to get the beast to > print-- I have scrapped all attempts at configuring the server and would > appreciate some guidance before I trying again!! If you just want to manually print files, netcat (nc) is the lowest overhead. Where printer is the printer DNS hostname and printfile is the file to be printed: nc printer 9100 < printfile There's no spooling with that. You mention "server", but don't say whether other machines will be submitting print jobs through the server. For that you'd need spooling. Lots of people use CUPS, while I prefer lpd. One or the other may be preferable depending on the clients doing the printing. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 16:04:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67ACA106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoffman@proper.com) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B408FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [75.101.18.87] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB8G42Ou057834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:04:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from phoffman@proper.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20091208100505.GB64581@ei.bzerk.org> <991123400912080245t2992a2desf94df94bf38fad04@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091208100505.GB64581@ei.bzerk.org> <991123400912080245t2992a2desf94df94bf38fad04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:04:01 -0800 To: Ruben de Groot , Odhiambo Washington From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why do I need a bunch of mappings for ld-elf.so in FreeBSD 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:04:18 -0000 At 11:05 AM +0100 12/8/09, Ruben de Groot wrote: >On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 05:35:47PM -0800, Paul Hoffman typed: > > Greetings. I upgraded a 7.2 system to 8.0 using 'freebsd-update install'. At some time during the process, I could no longer log ... >...snip... >>... t remove the lines from /etc/libmap.conf. >> >> How do I get a /libexec/ld-elf.so that has up-to-date mappings internal to it? > >These mappings are not internal to ld-elf.so. Ah, I interpreted that from the error message. >Could you post the contents of your libmap.conf These are the four I needed to get the normal packages working on my system. My concern is that there may be more: libcrypt.so.4 libcrypt.so.5 libncurses.so.7 libncurses.so.8 libutil.so.7 libutil.so.8 libcrypto.so.5 libcrypto.so.6 >and the output of >ldd /usr/local/bin/bash ? /usr/local/bin/bash: libncurses.so.7 => not found (0x0) libintl.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x2811f000) libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x28131000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x28227000) >Also the errors bash gives when started without the mappings in libmap.conf. Just commenting out the libncurses line, then trying to log in as a user whose shell is bash: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libncurses.so.7" not found, required by "bash" Removing the commmenting immediately changes this back to working. In looking more closely, I can see that bash was *not* remade by 'portupgrade -af'. I suspect it is because I installed it from binary during the initial installation. If that's true, it completely sucks and is a serious bug in portupgrade. There was no work directory in /usr/ports/shells/bash. Doing a 'make; make deinstall; make reinstall' makes it so I don't need the map any more. At 1:45 PM +0300 12/8/09, Odhiambo Washington wrote: >I usually think that including COMPAT_FREEBS7 in your new kernel during the upgrade process would save one from such agony. I have never used freebsd-update ever, and might never, because I prefer to build a new system from scratch, but perhaps you could try it and see if it does resolve your problem. I'm using the GENERIC kernel, never re-built. >There is always this instruction that you need to recompile all installed ports, which I think you did not do. That instruction makes me sick, given the time it would take on a critical server. I *did* do it, as I said in my earlier message. It takes forever, but it doesn't cause any interruption on the server (which, in my case, is only semi-critical). --Paul Hoffman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 16:24:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17C81065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A43E8FC1D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so3145535fxm.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:24:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=a4aWnF+m3B79blepWqmhebcAYy4hzldJWqZlgjXQ2o0=; b=puBx8loPi2u851mq+O7+iJWo1HdFkpSFRRuByIfqesRJmkEuF1rJUR91QyO6cLPoY3 Rx470HgaE6mpjOysYJ7yvkobg18Em4XqafY3oq3SSjejSF04SqTi7xVk/XULoCgQCjTM 8IvcTAYd5lSo3EPodlAOwVlnM1k911k3kc9pQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=F6emV9kJgQIbxD3avNDSHIrhmFniNY39Z/XRbuGhEC2t4VfvVCSwQ0l1JOd/5pbWSc ScsiCN6+71ncqkquTQ1khtswv5uTLa17LxYv62HeoEUtlf5WKxC0Xf5U3+giPzi2I2Qj IXlzzVNz8nsX9gnHS+JHVroULA+1XvWI5vd5c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.26 with SMTP id s26mr823370hbg.179.1260289464372; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:24:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:24:23 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Charles Howse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:24:26 -0000 2009/12/8 Charles Howse > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adam Vande More [mailto:amvandemore@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:56 AM > > To: Charles Howse > > Cc: FreeBSD-Questions > > Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. > > Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? > > Most of the > > games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. > > > > > > > > Please don't top post, thanks. > > My apologies to the group, I forgot. :) > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > you probably also want java as well, a lot of those children's game sites use all kind of horrible stuff. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 17:43:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413AB10656BC for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F419E8FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 12:43:25 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QJB79356; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 12:42:28 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19230.36867.142189.339269@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:42:27 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: semi-problem starting sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:43:26 -0000 When I start sendmail, this: STARTTLS=server, error: SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file(/etc/mail/CA/private/cakey.pem) failed appears in the log. The file exists and has permissions 0600. What am I probably looking at, and how do I find more specific information on the cause? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 18:02:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F184310656A3 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF89A8FC24 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:02:41 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KUC000Z7I444R10@asmtp023.mac.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:02:29 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <19230.36867.142189.339269@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:02:27 -0800 Message-id: <93B37107-DFAA-4F65-A9D2-C2F988E6E7E6@mac.com> References: <19230.36867.142189.339269@jerusalem.litteratus.org> To: Robert Huff X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-problem starting sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:02:42 -0000 On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Robert Huff wrote: > STARTTLS=server, error: SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file(/etc/mail/CA/private/cakey.pem) failed > > appears in the log. The file exists and has permissions 0600. > What am I probably looking at, and how do I find more specific information on the cause? Make sure none of the directories in that path have 022 perms (go+write). From the main sendmail README: "Sendmail often gets blamed for many problems that are actually the result of other problems, such as overly permissive modes on directories. For this reason, sendmail checks the modes on system directories and files to determine if they can be trusted. For sendmail to run without complaining, you MUST execute the following command: chmod go-w / /etc /etc/mail /usr /var /var/spool /var/spool/mqueue chown root / /etc /etc/mail /usr /var /var/spool /var/spool/mqueue You will probably have to tweak this for your environment (for example, some systems put the spool directory into /usr/spool instead of /var/spool). If you set the RunAsUser option in your sendmail.cf, the /var/spool/mqueue directory will have to be owned by the RunAsUser user. As a general rule, after you have compiled sendmail, run the command sendmail -v -bi to initialize the alias database. If it gives messages such as WARNING: writable directory /etc WARNING: writable directory /var/spool/mqueue then the directories listed have inappropriate write permissions and should be secured to avoid various possible security attacks." Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 18:16:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33CA1065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:16:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA988FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 247BD34D41E; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:16:51 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: usleepless@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:16:50 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.4; amd64; ; ) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081426.25130.david@vizion2000.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081816.51014.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:16:52 -0000 > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:26 PM, David Southwell wrote: > > > David Southwell writes: > > > > I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print > > > > from an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 > > > > jetdirect 610N. The printer is also used by a number of MS$ > > > > systems on the same subnet as the server so I know the printer is > > > > working and configured to print both text and graphics and to use > > > > the double sided facility. I need to use similar facilities from > > > > the server. > > > > > > I recently used CUPS to connect to a LaserJet 6 series with a > > > non HP (but supposedly HP-compatible) print server. After some > > > help, I entered "socket://" in the appropriate field > > > ... and everything Just Works. > > > > > > > > > Robert Huff > > > > Hi Robert > > Seasons greetings > > > > Thanks v. much. > > > > With help from Olivier Nicole I was able to telnet to the printer 9100 > > and text types got printed. My questions now are: > > > > 1. How do I manage to print single/double sided and determine the page > > orientation for different jobs? > > 2. How do I print images/ PCl /postscript. > > > > Olivier has a script which he will be sending me tomorrow but I do not > > know whether that deals with those issues. > > install CUPS. > Installed and configured cups but cannot get the online login system to work. It refuses to accept username/password combination. Here are the relevant lines in cupsd.conf: # Show shared printers on the local network. Browsing On BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow all BrowseLocalProtocols CUPS # Default authentication type, when authentication is required... DefaultAuthType Basic # Restrict access to the server... Order Deny, Allow Deny from All Allow from 127.0.0.1 Allow from 62.49.197.50 # Restrict access to the admin pages... AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order Deny, Allow Deny from All Allow from 127.0.0.1 Allow from 62.49.197.50 # Restrict access to configuration files... AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order Deny, Allow Deny from All Allow from 127.0.0.1 Allow from 62.49.197.50 Order allow,deny Relevant ports: dns1# pkg_info |grep cups cups-base-1.4.2_1 Common UNIX Printing System: Server cups-client-1.4.2_1 Common UNIX Printing System: Library cups cups-image-1.4.2_1 Common UNIX Printing System: Library cupsimage cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_4 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS printers cups-samba-6.0_2 The Common UNIX Printing System: MS Windows client drivers cups-smb-backend-1.0_2 A CUPS backend for printing to Windows servers gnome-cups-manager-0.31_10,1 Admistration tool for cups gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_4 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_2,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration py26-cups-1.9.46 CUPS bindings for Python > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 18:30:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29A4106568B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebotados@exemys.com) Received: from web.hostmailing.com (web.hostmailing.com [200.110.145.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C692E8FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web.hostmailing.com ([200.110.145.34] helo=www.hostmailing.com) by web.hostmailing.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NI4hy-0002o6-H8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:22:46 -0300 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:22:46 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Exemys Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: wh4535 [version 4.1] X-Fid: eGZpZC1mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9uc0BmcmVlYnNkLm9yZy0yNDAyMS03NTUzLTczMDU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: DNP3 Protocol to CellularGSM/GPRS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: exemys@exemys.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:30:05 -0000 This is a message in multipart MIME format. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 18:31:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09247106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DD08FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDDC2537C; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:31:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nB8IVr5t001633; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:31:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:31:52 +0100 From: Polytropon To: David Southwell Message-Id: <20091208193152.756bb5dd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081052.nB8Aqf7X072178@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:31:58 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:17 +0000, David Southwell wrote: > I really do not mind which facility to use provided I get the results!!! > . I do need to use as many of the printer features as possible. > I have enable the following: > IPP Printing : Enabled > FTP Printing : Enabled > LPD Printing : Enabled > 9100 Printing : Enabled > SLP Config : Enabled > EWS Config : Enabled If you already have LPD printing enabled in your printer, your computer's LPD subsystem should be able to hand the data over to the printer. For example, you can configure APSFILTER (a printer filter, similar to CUPS, but without the browser games and tons of dependencies) to create output for your printer. This depends on what your printer's language is. If it's already the standard, which is PS (Postscript), you don't need a filter at all, simply because PS is the default output format for printing. If it is PCL, you can easily setup APSFILTER (through its dialog driven install program) to output in form of PCL. Instead of specifying a local connection for the printer, you simply give its IP or name (if, for example, you have it in /etc/hosts). It's quite easy. If you then run lpr, lpq or lprm, inquiries and actions will be processed on the printer (by his lpd implementation). I'll share my working configuration for a HP Laserjet 4000 including duplexer. I've setup the printer name "Laserjet" in /etc/csh.cshrc: setenv PRINTER Laserjet Now all lp* command default to this printer name, instead the need of specifying -P or using "lp", the default. After installing apsfilter, I've run the setup program: # /usr/local/share/apsfilter/SETUP and configured the printer as needed. Note that if you don't find your specific model, you can choose a compatible one. The file SETUP.cfg contains: INTERFACE='parallel' DEVICE='/dev/lpt0' For your network printer, you would have different settings here. As I mentioned, those can be interactively set by the setup program. You will probably see something like rm='192.168.200.100' rp='raw' in this file. This created the directory /usr/local/etc/apsfilter/Laserjet with a file apsfilterrc, which I modified to run the duplexer by default. (If I really intend to NOT use it, I switch it off with the printer's controls.) GS_FEATURES='-q -dBATCH -dFIXEDMEDIA -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs -sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD" -sDeviceModel="HP LaserJet" -dDuplex=true -dIjsUseOutputFD -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600' DUPLEX=duplex BINDING=long Keep in mind that those settings have to be on one line, I just broke them up for better readability here. You can, by the way, easily setup two printers, one for duplex and one for no duplex, e. g. Laserjet and Laserjet-nodup. Both have the same settings, but differ in the GS_FEATURES line, e. g. GS_FEATURES='-q -dBATCH -dFIXEDMEDIA -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs -sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD" -sDeviceModel="HP LaserJet" -dIjsUseOutputFD -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600' See the -dDuplex=true is missing, so no duplex here. Finally, the APSFILTER setup program will adjust the system file /etc/printcap, which now contains an entry for the new printer called "Laserjet", e. g. Laserjet|ljet4d;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=a4;m=auto:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: Again, for a network printer you would see rm= and rp= statements in this file, but not the lp= statement. If you've setup everything correctly, you should be able to: % lpq no entries % lpr /etc/rc.conf % lpq Laserjet is ready and printing Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1st poly 483 /etc/rc.conf 2050 bytes % lprm - dfA483blahblah dequeued cfA483blahblah dequeued Of course, you will be able to print from any application now. Even piping to lpr is possible, e. g. % grep "bla" /some/files* | lpr Note that programs like Gimp require you to setup the printer again (in Gutenprint); you'll possibly have to set format and duplex and other things. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 18:36:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52DD1065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6628FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:36:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 19104401 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:36:55 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:36:56 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:36:54 -0600 Thread-Topic: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? Thread-Index: Acp4NWot4TsZHcgBT6yUiuyP1iZAkQ== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:36:57 -0000 We have 3U systems with 3Ware raid controllers configured to give us large = 11TB logical drives. The diskinfo command shows this: # diskinfo -v da1 da1 512 # sectorsize 11999933104128 # mediasize in bytes (11T) 23437369344 # mediasize in sectors 1458908 # Cylinders according to firmware. 255 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. Y08210901E792700BAB9 # Disk ident. We want to create a BSD slice to cover the entire drive. My plan was to use= the fdisk -I option: # fdisk -I da1 ******* Working on device /dev/da1 ******* fdisk: Class not found # fdisk -p da1 # /dev/da1 g c1458908 h255 s63 p 1 0xa5 63 1962532467 a 1 but as you can see, the partition size that this creates is only 1TB (19625= 32467*512=3D1004816623104 bytes). The fdisk command clearly knows how large= the disk really is: # fdisk da1 ******* Working on device /dev/da1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=3D1458908 heads=3D255 sectors/track=3D63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=3D1458908 heads=3D255 sectors/track=3D63 (16065 blks/cyl) If I compute 1458908*255*63*512 this gives me 11999926794240, which is the = correct size. But the -I option doesn't create a full sized partition. How do we resolve this? We want a full size partition spanning the entire d= isk, and we need a scriptable solution since the configuration of these ser= vers is handled through an automated process. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 18:37:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62A41065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F4A8FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so4656274bwz.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:37:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WrnMOIfEY3Qlw9KPPafaywkeQLxquhu6nInML9Xi2uo=; b=oPXz7mJ6JK0D6lk/AJapCxJhn61eg21BOcuo2dhe85Uz/2vNlNJdD463Mc1tZJHfja ECVKm7U4PiUYlUQuMfYxL3Cui7+bocxKpYK61tqje+ozXp0+D0WtU026awoSRcASe+6a 4FUokqzfjeALqIjgmRoAbAtpGxFKR+LXVvAmg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YFIMCfJFEQvloJi4ZzW3boTFqQDzeoQdIuXtoc+qx2of6BCdvpR+GmvAKCfzosjVZX JMHUowFE5kQi5hkoNHL9RprZtyawcJbswq59HvgpQXWGkAwbPVsxpTyb5R2FR/pMu2nh TnNydY0M/DWxi5C1eS0hCFlfzMpbLKXxfeG34= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.32.1 with SMTP id a1mr9059270bkd.191.1260297470299; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:37:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B1E1877.9020604@a1poweruser.com> References: <4B1E1877.9020604@a1poweruser.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:37:30 +0000 Message-ID: To: Fbsd1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: what ports to open in firewall for bitlord X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:37:52 -0000 2009/12/8 Fbsd1 : > Want to allow the bitlord progran to pass through my firewall. Does anyon= e > know the port numbers it uses for out bound and inbound packets. > > Thanks Why don't you look on the BitLord website? Or better, use a more neighbourly program, that isn't adware such as Transmission or =ECTorrent? This link might help: http://www.google.com/search?rlz=3D1C1GGLS_en-GBGB344GB344&sourceid=3Dchrom= e&ie=3DUTF-8&q=3Dbitlord+ports Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 18:54:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB7A106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921D38FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C401D8E7; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:54:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nB8IsOp6001701; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:54:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:54:24 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Peter Steele Message-Id: <20091208195424.850e8363.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:54:28 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:36:54 -0600, Peter Steele wrote: > We have 3U systems with 3Ware raid controllers configured to give > us large 11TB logical drives. The diskinfo command shows this: > [...] > We want to create a BSD slice to cover the entire drive. My plan > was to use the fdisk -I option: > [...] > How do we resolve this? We want a full size partition spanning > the entire disk, and we need a scriptable solution since the > configuration of these servers is handled through an automated > process. Why not directly formatting the whole device? In the subject line, you wrote "large partition", so I assume you won't want to boot from from the device, but use it as a big storage area instead. Correct me if I'm wrong. I am often using disks without slice if I don't boot from them, but use them for storage. # newfs /dev/da1 would be the command to create a partition with file system that covers the whole disk. It will be /dev/da1c (which is /dev/da1), and you can easily mount it: # mount /dev/da1 /bigstorage Of course, this solution is completely scriptable, given the fact that you know which device to newfs. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:14:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBE91065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72EF8FC1E for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so1470131eye.9 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:13:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OFGXbtjT0CnLrScgpKWKeITnNP7JM0K201elqVh3wVU=; b=D+lDcxNyjupVdWxKHV+OYLr4Z3c+msuDcdwZj/3afmxzKULfF027zZ+WTjyIERmmF4 KBqF93ULAtU1Tju2q9FocDiO/LqAyMRRVTnumk9c1MWbPW76+8zYFkT4S8oPty26z9l7 SgZMnyomD+d3/MQ7cSVRoEGo/GnR+VfXbKSrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MaScxfKreEr7tT6+f0tja9IiN2IWvRszv9YnZnS5z2nCC+2nMEc9r3nJo3qSGe9jyL vhX/ssnpbYZ213OcoemQJZ0aH615JYKMJCtURBLzg5Rl4aN7WnnsgZXMm+/nduMzzhh8 N3Gyvn4hCGm/ivK5VwUzdYHNau6wyQPPCSxZc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.79.66 with SMTP id o2mr4726262ebk.22.1260299639608; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:13:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:13:39 -0500 Message-ID: <26ddd1750912081113w2c09474ldd258d2cd6143cf3@mail.gmail.com> To: Peter Steele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:14:01 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Peter Steele wrote: > We have 3U systems with 3Ware raid controllers configured to give us larg= e 11TB logical drives. The diskinfo command shows this: > > # diskinfo -v da1 > da1 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0512 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = # sectorsize > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A011999933104128 =C2=A0# mediasize in bytes (11T= ) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A023437369344 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # mediasize in secto= rs > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01458908 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Cylinder= s according to firmware. > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0255 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = # Heads according to firmware. > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A063 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0# Sectors according to firmware. > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Y08210901E792700BAB9 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# Disk ident= . > > We want to create a BSD slice to cover the entire drive. My plan was to u= se the fdisk -I option: > > [snip] You cannot use fdisk for this, because fdisk creates MBR partition tables and these partitions are limited to 2 TB. You have three options: 1. Use GPT instead of MBR. This is handled by gpt (FreeBSD 7) and gpart (FreeBSD 8) commands. 2. Use a "dangerously dedicated" partitioning scheme. 3. Bypass all partitioning issues and do what Polytropon suggested. The third option will only work if you don't need to boot from the array and are happy with a single 11TB file system. The second option gives you partitions and the ability to boot FreeBSD, but no other operating system will recognize the array. Device names will be da1a, da1b, etc. To do this run the following commands: bsdlabel -w -B da1 bsdlabel -e da1 newfs /dev/da1a newfs -U /dev/da1d ... I've never used GPT, but that's what you would have become familiar with if you want these arrays to be recognized by operating systems other than FreeBSD. - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:14:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B28106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5161E8FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:14:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 19120288 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:14:14 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:14:09 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:14:05 -0600 Thread-Topic: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? Thread-Index: Acp4N+ALi9T5PqmfSYuWRNSOEVA4KwAAlgQg Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D498@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208195424.850e8363.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091208195424.850e8363.freebsd@edvax.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: vAs= A21h BZJr Bvlt CDJ7 CN2V CnrY Dc3G Dj1Z FK6K GLLz G/m+ Hbbu H2S/ K1A9 LFxJ; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {E9262912-07B2-4B5A-A67E-65263F6913F0}; cABzAHQAZQBlAGwAZQBAAG0AYQB4AGkAcwBjAGEAbABlAC4AYwBvAG0A; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:14:05 GMT; UgBFADoAIABIAG8AdwAgAGQAbwAgAEkAIABjAHIAZQBhAHQAZQAgAGwAYQByAGcAZQAgAHAAYQByAHQAaQB0AGkAbwBuAHMAIABpAG4AIABGAHIAZQBlAEIAUwBEAD8A x-cr-puzzleid: {E9262912-07B2-4B5A-A67E-65263F6913F0} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:14:10 -0000 > In the subject line, you wrote "large partition", so I assume you won't w= ant to boot from from the device, but use it as a big storage area instead.= Correct me if I'm wrong. For simplicity I didn't include all the details. In fact we need three slic= es, one for the OS, one for swap, and the rest for data. I can create the f= irst two slices the way I normally do using fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs. But I'm s= tumped on how to create the large third slice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:17:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEAE106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryallsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com (mail-qy0-f176.google.com [209.85.221.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00D68FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk6 with SMTP id 6so2551044qyk.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:17:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=dD4mARtUkf+0ZrzhwXWd5hK49oe8ftgjV9Pe0mrt8nk=; b=q9ARPZmeUuz6fC7cyQh90hDuAo2bxpDzxxrZeiS3HqyiNsoYac6mvrUi1T6puPCGbS WUXo3NA4WujsGsJEoMH0cDHWm/pRUuWNJOY6tzN9XvmPO0ZaBtQk8VhDSec2ZdNfEtfA T3UdPLGiQ2Hmb/iie3Lax6A9+WvUBKL7gInQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=axkZOxADl3mqkGTcZ6RogKlNCeM0eip8Xh9JMFfWM9+tPSpKCYgkgNtC7+PCc0XDzd xIo+IIsoUmrRPSJ0Ge/rms1tdfVywlPUrZxCeX1Onz4aBhg9ySPMGGtKjSfyJWwndmto Q+3GA2nTW2prXz6THuWMLvdUTaZdLdvVLhMMw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.100.214 with SMTP id z22mr1216483qcn.77.1260299873130; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:17:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:53 -0800 Message-ID: From: Derrick Ryalls To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: named needs restart after a reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:17:54 -0000 Greetings, uname: FreeBSD example.com 8.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 #0: Sun Dec 6 11:23:52 PST 2009 ryallsd@example.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FRODO amd64 I have most things working, but I have noticed that every time I reboot the machine, I need to manually restart named to get it listening on the proper interfaces as by default it is listening on 127.0.0.1 interfaces only. A simple /etc/rc.d/named restart fixes it which seems like it would be configured correctly, but I have had to do this on a install before. Anyone have a guess as to what could be wrong? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:24:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609251065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165978FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 14:24:30 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LHG98262; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:24:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 14:24:26 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19230.42985.518565.804964@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:24:25 -0500 To: David Southwell In-Reply-To: <200912081816.51014.david@vizion2000.net> References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081426.25130.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081816.51014.david@vizion2000.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, usleepless@gmail.com Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:24:31 -0000 David Southwell writes: > Installed and configured cups but cannot get the online login > system to work. It refuses to accept username/password > combination. Not the CUPS expert. (Sorry.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:24:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069E210656AA for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4B58FC15 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:24:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 19122123; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:24:36 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:24:37 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: Maxim Khitrov Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:24:32 -0600 Thread-Topic: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? Thread-Index: Acp4OpwKWL4wROV/S0eeJy64ZMfIsQAALSxw Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D4AC@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <26ddd1750912081113w2c09474ldd258d2cd6143cf3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750912081113w2c09474ldd258d2cd6143cf3@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AVNF CWbM ERdZ Gh3h GmJn Ip7v OZ1w Pr4t QlMR Qu09 Q+cd Rylv S3Mn S4a/ UGNe UYSq; 2; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnADsAbQBrAGgAaQB0AHIAbwB2AEAAZwBtAGEAaQBsAC4AYwBvAG0A; Sosha1_v1; 7; {D2CDACF0-BC5C-4E15-A0E6-3CED64BB5731}; cABzAHQAZQBlAGwAZQBAAG0AYQB4AGkAcwBjAGEAbABlAC4AYwBvAG0A; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:24:32 GMT; UgBFADoAIABIAG8AdwAgAGQAbwAgAEkAIABjAHIAZQBhAHQAZQAgAGwAYQByAGcAZQAgAHAAYQByAHQAaQB0AGkAbwBuAHMAIABpAG4AIABGAHIAZQBlAEIAUwBEAD8A x-cr-puzzleid: {D2CDACF0-BC5C-4E15-A0E6-3CED64BB5731} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:24:39 -0000 PllvdSBjYW5ub3QgdXNlIGZkaXNrIGZvciB0aGlzLCBiZWNhdXNlIGZkaXNrIGNyZWF0ZXMgTUJS IHBhcnRpdGlvbiB0YWJsZXMgYW5kIHRoZXNlIHBhcnRpdGlvbnMgYXJlIGxpbWl0ZWQgdG8gMiBU Qi4gWW91IGhhdmUgdGhyZWUNCj5vcHRpb25zOg0KPg0KPjEuIFVzZSBHUFQgaW5zdGVhZCBvZiBN QlIuIFRoaXMgaXMgaGFuZGxlZCBieSBncHQgKEZyZWVCU0QgNykgYW5kIGdwYXJ0IChGcmVlQlNE IDgpIGNvbW1hbmRzLg0KDQpXZSdyZSBydW5uaW5nIDguMC4gSSdsbCBoYXZlIHRvIGNoZWNrIG91 dCBncGFydC4NCg0KPjIuIFVzZSBhICJkYW5nZXJvdXNseSBkZWRpY2F0ZWQiIHBhcnRpdGlvbmlu ZyBzY2hlbWUuDQo+My4gQnlwYXNzIGFsbCBwYXJ0aXRpb25pbmcgaXNzdWVzIGFuZCBkbyB3aGF0 IFBvbHl0cm9wb24gc3VnZ2VzdGVkLg0KPg0KPlRoZSB0aGlyZCBvcHRpb24gd2lsbCBvbmx5IHdv cmsgaWYgeW91IGRvbid0IG5lZWQgdG8gYm9vdCBmcm9tIHRoZSBhcnJheSBhbmQgYXJlIGhhcHB5 IHdpdGggYSBzaW5nbGUgMTFUQiBmaWxlIHN5c3RlbS4NCg0KV2UgZG8gbmVlZCB0byBib290IGZy b20gdGhlc2UgZHJpdmVzIHNvIHRoaXMgaXMgbm90IGFuIG9wdGlvbi4NCg0KPiBUaGUgc2Vjb25k IG9wdGlvbiBnaXZlcyB5b3UgcGFydGl0aW9ucyBhbmQgdGhlIGFiaWxpdHkgdG8gYm9vdCBGcmVl QlNELCBidXQgbm8gb3RoZXIgb3BlcmF0aW5nIHN5c3RlbSB3aWxsIHJlY29nbml6ZSB0aGUgYXJy YXkuDQo+RGV2aWNlIG5hbWVzIHdpbGwgYmUgZGExYSwgZGExYiwgZXRjLiBUbyBkbyB0aGlzIHJ1 biB0aGUgZm9sbG93aW5nDQo+Y29tbWFuZHM6DQo+DQo+YnNkbGFiZWwgLXcgLUIgZGExDQoNCldo ZW4gSSBydW4gdGhpcyBjb21tYW5kIEkgZ2V0Og0KDQojIGJzZGxhYmVsIC13IC1CIGRhMQ0KYnNk bGFiZWw6IGRpc2tzIHdpdGggbW9yZSB0aGFuIDJeMzItMSBzZWN0b3JzIGFyZSBub3Qgc3VwcG9y dGVkDQoNClNvIHRoYXQgc2VlbXMgd2UgYXJlIGxpbWl0ZWQgdG8gb3B0aW9uIDEuIFdlIGRpZG4n dCBhbnRpY2lwYXRlIHRoaXM7IGhvcGUgdGhlcmUgYXJlbid0IHVuZXhwZWN0ZWQgZ290Y2hhcyBs dXJraW5nIGFyb3VuZCB0aGUgY29ybmVyLi4uDQoNCg== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:25:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673781065695 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ocean_ieee@yahoo.it) Received: from smtp114.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com (smtp114.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.102.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 785318FC1D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 77908 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2009 19:25:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.it; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PaoIyv+z7uQrj7vx+XmpTYqPHPUI3SHLjUcxJjFXIo9BcxJcVY7UkKmWi5zsC5y/zxGn693O43VwrUEm8YFjmf+35lld0EJY48qwsO/xOURipGMQaYaXU1I/uNdJdbZpjk0dbBP904T9zfQyH9/2SKDQ1xXEDDOdfzK8C2Jxr+g= ; Received: from 213-156-35-243.ip.fastwebnet.it (ocean_ieee@213.156.35.243 with plain) by smtp114.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Dec 2009 11:25:32 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: SYX_4.SswBCj2Fjsw.Apnvidq06mcRQ- X-YMail-OSG: dXePEL4VM1kpuz4nNrWcQ8JcjrvGnyK5ckk9ql.QiENV5Zyr3KTl16Xx8EgpvavvTxF4uVzQRPyk2Q1LJCSYArQXR65jYRArJTCBf7.ZU7hmi8bVF.SpXCFo2UoBUD2qGjtrkC6nkJVv7sclfiMjBB3fATuLGAFbB72K_SVlSKNNB4AR6SnVRzOHsjifQQJC_5mhTvIjxRlu7eNa9PdY0EpGttVZvvzub49TuB0jFqazgNL9sarcTvjtrl2QrAGWUw1meeGTcBvXPaQyqCrr9RzbUFSuXv.Z.kUeMaSZc2a0MxrSS.z9XuyhYXUu7LbSx2_SL9ub_bLPT6Cg5pdHad0HLoNd6ACzcpj33r0sI2EiNh1B6TTkzISamyjpBunD7AtihTk3xZOtrEUx29nDlv00RCHVEmMeYdgmfcIDKsd6TZq3DV0znQNkOdV1x0J91rE9pZVozSozODwfJGWcWdYnbNKe0gA4MetfUXnLEdjA2QF5pDtrN.afYO1OQIoNf9xP9jtGehFqZp2spyOGNr5hIPjLim5rWJYv_WJfdOzKjSXE7sDNI74ACDi.9QvCuhx6K4PLlvQ30o2836UmeW31x_YAo0qDYowvx5S4szhIBUPhCkpglBtV6K8RWc_IhFDcAA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4B1EA7F4.2070202@yahoo.it> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:24:36 +0100 From: ocean User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Howse References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> In-Reply-To: <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'FreeBSD-Questions' Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:25:34 -0000 >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse >> wrote: >> >> >> Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. >> Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? >> Most of the >> games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. if you install the right ports on a fbsd 8.0 maybe it could just works (it's being discussed in the freebsd forums: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5786 gnash could also work but it's known to have some issues so i won't recommend it, possibilities are firefox+flash for windows under wine which someone says it works, or linux emulation and firefox+flash. for parental control there's also the opendns alternative that can block adult sites, though i don't know how good it works. you could also look at this (never tried it, don't know if/how it works): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1803 http://procon.mozdev.org/ also for the old computer i would recommend xfce or, since you say they only need a few programs, you could go with just Xorg + feh for the background + xfwm or openbox + a light taskbar and a nice dock-bar (wbar or simdock) were you will only put the applications they need to run. if there aren't specific problems with drivers and similar, an upgrade to a newer freebsd version could be advisable for flash :) regards ocean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:27:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A5A1065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D978FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA7E3CB69; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:27:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nB8JRobQ001805; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:27:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:27:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Peter Steele Message-Id: <20091208202749.d3f3b697.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D498@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208195424.850e8363.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D498@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:27:52 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:14:05 -0600, Peter Steele wrote: > > In the subject line, you wrote "large partition", so I > > assume you won't want to boot from from the device, but > > use it as a big storage area instead. Correct me if I'm wrong. > > For simplicity I didn't include all the details. In fact > we need three slices, one for the OS, one for swap, and > the rest for data. Excuse me, you're mixing up terminology here. Let me explain: A SLICE is what "Windows" calls a "DOS primary partition", often just named a "partition". A PARTITION is a subdivision of a slice. It holds a file system. It is comparable (but not the same as) what "Windows" calls a "logical volume inside a DOS extended partition". To re-express your requirements: You need one slice covering the whole disk. This slice should contain three partitions: One for the OS, one for swap, and one for data. What you will need to do is basically what Maxim suggested, which is a) use the "dedicated" approach, which means that you don't create a slice, just three partitions on the disk, or, b) go with gpt / gpart, which is okay if FreeBSD will be the only OS that accesses the disk(s) in question, as I may assume by your statements. > I can create the first two slices the way I normally do > using fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs. But I'm stumped on how to > create the large third slice. I'm not sure if I understood you correctly. You won't need to create three slices, just one slice, containin three partitions. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:38:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE8F106568B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:38:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-f194.google.com (mail-yw0-f194.google.com [209.85.211.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03068FC1B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32so6094117ywh.14 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.11.2 with SMTP id o2mr1861662ani.52.1260301090842; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:38:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([187.78.13.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm2511931ywc.54.2009.12.08.11.38.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:38:10 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:37:16 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-STABLE; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <20091207174837.GA4396@biollaz.local.sourire.ch> In-Reply-To: <20091207174837.GA4396@biollaz.local.sourire.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200912081637.16154.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: rhino64@postmail.ch Subject: Re: Geode Xorg Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:38:13 -0000 On Monday 07 December 2009 14:48:37 rhino64@postmail.ch wrote: > Hi All, > I use the Alix 1d computer from pcengines to build > a X terminal and a small mail server. > > The Xserver is working with the VESA driver. This is functional > but a little bit slow. A Xorg driver for this graphic card > (AMD Geode) exists but it is not available with FreeBSD. > > With FreeBSD 7.2, I was able to use the drivers compiled > for OpenBSD. But due to a version mismatch, they are not usable > with FreeBSD 8.0 which is installed now. > > I have lookup a many places since two days and I can see > that some persons were able to compile the drivers for formers > version of BSD. > > Could someone explain how to compile the drivers for FreeBSD 8.0 ? > There is no port, but since a lot of similar drivers (like the VESA) are > available, it should not be too complicated to compile the geode driver > (I have got the source on the GIT repository of Xorg). > > I have started to compile VESA driver from ports but it fails > at some points while not finding "gdm-config". > > An other solution would be to get the drivers of a Linux > distribution (normally this should work since Xorg modules are > platform independents). > > Thanks for any help or ideas. > > regards, > > Alain Aubord > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Alain; John_doe made a port for a vesa driver that works perfectly in FBSD 8 amd64. The driver is here: ftp://ftp.lissyara.su/users/Guest/vesa-kmod.diff instructions: To apply use $ cd /usr/ports $ patch -sp0 -i /path/to/vesa-kmod.diff $ cd misc/vesa-kmod; make install clean put vesa_load="YES" into /boot/loader.conf Here is the thread where I picked it up. http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6291 Regards, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:38:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213BE106568D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:38:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E743F8FC1F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so2585528pzk.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:38:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ihcB4xgiRL17in3OoOfXemSioR1P1scecc408eKStFY=; b=PFwgCyE0FXpvuyUQJNuXScIFTblAdyzqt/8imlx8IhCi9ZQpgUJstvOREW5VMOKI6v eKYUlkYIdqKBP954oOEWSZfr9+2EEMnVOOv3f7NCmKTAtRIHvtsAmhDt4TjxUsUoFxHr ad/j4mvgAPSlicFRW4/3yco/IyXTI0F989nZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=K9SH7SLs/4MekRhCu6Al1yv7UEIzGLofejEfnxG8cEmr7eFf92zwTt8Rh/zJo8vFrf J8jViYwCPlzhs+/D0/KWmdSSM5RGX3C5NgFEc2aw76oGDBHliQVn1HW+Pu9iQrMs8xRi 5+naQA77/zslSgzyo6ctEFC/yUoZS33kWKxAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.247.39 with SMTP id u39mr960087wfh.242.1260301092406; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:38:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091208202749.d3f3b697.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208195424.850e8363.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D498@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208202749.d3f3b697.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:38:12 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e0912081138p906fa7bxb7ea5223542e67ff@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Peter Steele , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:38:13 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > > b) go with gpt / gpart, which is okay if FreeBSD will > be the only OS that accesses the disk(s) in question, > as I may assume by your statements. > > GUID partitions are recognized by many more OS's than just FreeBSD although I admit I haven't tried such an endeavor. Is there some other gotcha? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:43:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3941065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AF68FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:43:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 19125674; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:43:41 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:43:42 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: Polytropon Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:43:41 -0600 Thread-Topic: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? Thread-Index: Acp4PI0564h8dLBaR4WFcBtzAW5QDgAAHxSw Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D4C3@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208195424.850e8363.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D498@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208202749.d3f3b697.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091208202749.d3f3b697.freebsd@edvax.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:43:44 -0000 >Excuse me, you're mixing up terminology here. Let me explain: > >A SLICE is what "Windows" calls a "DOS primary partition", often just name= d a "partition". Yes, I know what a BSD slice is compared to a BSD partition. Considering th= at fdisk uses "partition" interchangeably in cases with "slice", I often do= as well. I guess it can be confusing if one isn't careful with context. >I'm not sure if I understood you correctly. You won't need to create three= slices, just one slice, containin three partitions. We already have a configuration in place on our smaller 1U boxes which are = divided into three slices, one for the OS (with 2 partitions), one for swap= , and the third slice for data. The third slice is divided into two partiti= ons, one UFS and one raw. The first two slices are gmirrored, the third sli= ce is not. For consistency we want to use the same slice configuration for these large= drives. We don't *have* to do it this way but it simplifies things for our= legacy code. We're not using any gmirroring on these raid boxes of course,= and we only need one partition on the third slice (no raw partition) but o= therwise the layout will largely be the same. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:44:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C411065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:44:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C898FC22 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so24277ewy.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:44:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=sYb6QzpSUatULwNsNnaNuQTowMTm3iRpP/3WP5GHi+0=; b=XumkAnZpJXNydJjKesqwN5oAHhk2WsIIavHixAz/XctJK6Nv3sQbYW+hFPIbsvzwnJ B0764hsX7oKQgZ17KJmNWzsHwdhbf8XeyhFU2v146djn+wkHR9TO6D8zDOzof/S86y/q iNOgJaXfSZYLZ8wKIsE/ka5IlYZmwnuZgCcBs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=sCHA4LT4uptG1obCYCgd1MySGRkzmeb9dMDjQ20VDheX15ifK01fWL1qde7+U7vk2p j5/wbX3Q6rMZWhorB4tZ9OIJ7dIfu8YREAfrJbAp45a9hDrHzgqgRnrGHaIUy8kqZPHd 1i+UUGvANTgiqs1nF6lx2qtrFmScgEW1tK0Lc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.25.66 with SMTP id y2mr16557276ebb.54.1260301464144; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:44:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D4AC@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <26ddd1750912081113w2c09474ldd258d2cd6143cf3@mail.gmail.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D4AC@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:44:04 -0500 Message-ID: <26ddd1750912081144j62235981j9db9c005ba07c7bb@mail.gmail.com> To: Peter Steele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:44:34 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Peter Steele wrote: >>You cannot use fdisk for this, because fdisk creates MBR partition tables and these partitions are limited to 2 TB. You have three >>options: >> >>1. Use GPT instead of MBR. This is handled by gpt (FreeBSD 7) and gpart (FreeBSD 8) commands. > > We're running 8.0. I'll have to check out gpart. > >>2. Use a "dangerously dedicated" partitioning scheme. >>3. Bypass all partitioning issues and do what Polytropon suggested. >> >>The third option will only work if you don't need to boot from the array and are happy with a single 11TB file system. > > We do need to boot from these drives so this is not an option. > >> The second option gives you partitions and the ability to boot FreeBSD, but no other operating system will recognize the array. >>Device names will be da1a, da1b, etc. To do this run the following >>commands: >> >>bsdlabel -w -B da1 > > When I run this command I get: > > # bsdlabel -w -B da1 > bsdlabel: disks with more than 2^32-1 sectors are not supported I forgot about that one, sorry. > So that seems we are limited to option 1. We didn't anticipate this; hope there aren't unexpected gotchas lurking around the corner... Not sure if you're able to do this, but I would advise you against using the same array for OS, swap, and data. For all the servers I've configured, I always use a two small (32-64 GB) drives in RAID 1 configuration for the first two functions. The data is always on a physically-separate array, which means that I'm free to use newfs on the entire thing and never have to deal with partitions. This setup is simpler, safer, and faster since your data drives are now performing just one function. - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:44:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EA91065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93118FC2E for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:44:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 15915178 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:44:51 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:44:50 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:44:49 -0600 Thread-Topic: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? Thread-Index: Acp4Pft3NtYPNr00QD63kPvxlVvhpAAAMZYg Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D4C8@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208195424.850e8363.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D498@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208202749.d3f3b697.freebsd@edvax.de> <6201873e0912081138p906fa7bxb7ea5223542e67ff@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0912081138p906fa7bxb7ea5223542e67ff@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:44:53 -0000 >b) go with gpt / gpart, which is okay if FreeBSD will > be the only OS that accesses the disk(s) in question, > as I may assume by your statements. That's correct; these will be strictly BSD accessible drives. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 19:59:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B4A10656AA for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629018FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAD23CD0D; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:59:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nB8JxA20001896; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:59:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:59:10 +0100 From: Polytropon To: ocean Message-Id: <20091208205910.bc63919e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4B1EA7F4.2070202@yahoo.it> References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> <4B1EA7F4.2070202@yahoo.it> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Charles Howse , 'FreeBSD-Questions' Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:59:12 -0000 On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:24:36 +0100, ocean wrote: > also for the old computer i would recommend xfce or, since > you say they only need a few programs, you could go with > just Xorg + feh for the background + xfwm or openbox + a > light taskbar and a nice dock-bar (wbar or simdock) were > you will only put the applications they need to run. An alternative would be IcecWM: Easily configurable menu, good window managing, no bloat. But I can second XFCE, too. Maybe you want to run XFCE 3 which has some look & feel of CDE, is easily configurable and very fast. (I use it on a 300 MHz P2 with similar requirements as you mentioned, but without any "Flash"). There's a nice dock-like application for X which is used by the FreeSBIE live system CD. I've got no FreeSBIE at hand, nor can I remember the application's name, but I think this would be interesting to you, too. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 20:04:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15369106568B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59DA8FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794613CD03; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:04:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nB8K42JX001919; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:04:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:04:02 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Peter Steele Message-Id: <20091208210402.ad3ba281.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D4C3@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208195424.850e8363.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D498@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208202749.d3f3b697.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D4C3@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:04:04 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:43:41 -0600, Peter Steele wrote: > Yes, I know what a BSD slice is compared to a BSD partition. > Considering that fdisk uses "partition" interchangeably in > cases with "slice", I often do as well. I guess it can be > confusing if one isn't careful with context. You're right - fdisk uses different terminology. > We already have a configuration in place on our smaller 1U > boxes which are divided into three slices, one for the OS > (with 2 partitions), one for swap, and the third slice for > data. The third slice is divided into two partitions, one > UFS and one raw. The first two slices are gmirrored, the > third slice is not. Okay, now I understand. It's much more complex than it seemed from your initial statement. :-) What you want in the end is e. g. /dev/da1s1a = / /dev/da1s1d = /usr (or maybe /usr/local) /dev/da1s2b = swap /dev/da1s3d = /bigstorage (or something similar) /dev/da1s3e = raw > For consistency we want to use the same slice configuration > for these large drives. We don't *have* to do it this way > but it simplifies things for our legacy code. We're not > using any gmirroring on these raid boxes of course, and we > only need one partition on the third slice (no raw partition) > but otherwise the layout will largely be the same. Then it looks to me that using gpt / gpart is the way to go... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 20:06:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75D2106568F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE028FC15 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB8K6Qtg083219; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:06:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 76127BAAE; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:06:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:06:26 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Dominic Fandrey Message-ID: <20091208200626.GA39898@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4B1E6FFA.9070200@bsdforen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B1E6FFA.9070200@bsdforen.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: webdav X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:06:33 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 04:25:46PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > Is there any way to mount webdav into the file system (like on OS-x > or fuse-dav)? Have a look at the sysutils/fusefs-wdfs port. :-) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksescIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVJfgCfYF3RD2cAwa/qM6KnG3rTHj0X N70AoIIFdlG3Ch4eU4Fd+MOHykHYx4iC =RGX+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 20:18:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC61106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B698FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB8KIn7m042013; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:18:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nB8KInww042010; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:18:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:18:49 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: ocean In-Reply-To: <4B1EA7F4.2070202@yahoo.it> Message-ID: References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> <4B1EA7F4.2070202@yahoo.it> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:18:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: Charles Howse , 'FreeBSD-Questions' Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:18:51 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, ocean wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse >>> wrote: >>> Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. >>> Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? >>> Most of the >>> games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. > > > if you install the right ports on a fbsd 8.0 maybe it could just works (it's > being discussed in the freebsd forums: > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5786 Please, not that horrible thread again. Just do what's in the Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html), and Flash 10 works fine with native Firefox on FreeBSD 8. > possibilities are firefox+flash for windows under wine which someone > says it works, It works well. And the Java plugin works too. The only problem I see with Windows Firefox on Wine is that it takes a double-click to close Firefox windows or tabs. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 20:21:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2C51065696 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65CB8FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (unknown [88.130.205.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B340A8A10E8; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:21:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B1EB537.6080003@bsdforen.de> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:21:11 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4B1E6FFA.9070200@bsdforen.de> <20091208200626.GA39898@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091208200626.GA39898@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: webdav X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:21:17 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 04:25:46PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: >> Is there any way to mount webdav into the file system (like on OS-x >> or fuse-dav)? > > Have a look at the sysutils/fusefs-wdfs port. :-) That looks great! The command # make quicksearch key=webdav did not lead me there. Regards -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 20:24:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F8C106568B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FED98FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB8KOY2t042048; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:24:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nB8KOYwV042045; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:24:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:24:34 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Derrick Ryalls In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:24:34 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: named needs restart after a reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:24:35 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Derrick Ryalls wrote: > uname: > > FreeBSD example.com 8.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 #0: Sun Dec > 6 11:23:52 PST 2009 ryallsd@example.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FRODO > amd64 > > I have most things working, but I have noticed that every time I > reboot the machine, I need to manually restart named to get it > listening on the proper interfaces as by default it is listening on > 127.0.0.1 interfaces only. A simple /etc/rc.d/named restart fixes it > which seems like it would be configured correctly, but I have had to > do this on a install before. > > Anyone have a guess as to what could be wrong? Only a guess: network interface comes up too late. If you're using DHCP to configure that interface, you could try SYNCDHCP. Or if it's an re(4) interface, there are patches in 8-STABLE that make it come up faster. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 20:28:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECF01065697 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C748FC1E for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 19so1244391fgg.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:28:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=J0J9KGmI8QG4rGSuU9Hlw62IsaxzrqY9OrWQvr7q+yg=; b=WTLYJXkht+hboWubssP64Ej2/Q2w8mWLWATkHP1/iBJIY4vnx+sQe4jMNU6IRVbCAL SFOgCh5yfYtGaHP77+esgn8TWvxlap0F5G3eADBx/xksFFgotUsK0u4zzxxGax9dyzAo TcM8adWmZHhjNdsEufYfIQTLxQQRHioWDgyvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=EBoB+eRvneaBp7w2kQO1BcNMpQB9JOJWvM/dby6CEZMB3Y/C3qhWyRI9ZfMOTYInx4 R4E/xWnCuMyAC4wUbhPeWWF6vy+WSCkpldTLCeHc2KZd/VKqAq2b0IeRYVMORsH90ihc 0M7ow4qI65nIh5culMbd5pbWUIUdqib5GYdnw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.50.21 with SMTP id c21mr2946434muk.27.1260304133310; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:28:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200912081816.51014.david@vizion2000.net> References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081426.25130.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081816.51014.david@vizion2000.net> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:28:53 +0100 Message-ID: From: usleepless@gmail.com To: David Southwell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:28:55 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:16 PM, David Southwell wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:26 PM, David Southwell >wrote: > > > > David Southwell writes: > > > > > I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print > > > > > from an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 > > > > > jetdirect 610N. The printer is also used by a number of MS$ > > > > > systems on the same subnet as the server so I know the printer is > > > > > working and configured to print both text and graphics and to use > > > > > the double sided facility. I need to use similar facilities from > > > > > the server. > > > > > > > > I recently used CUPS to connect to a LaserJet 6 series with a > > > > non HP (but supposedly HP-compatible) print server. After some > > > > help, I entered "socket://" in the appropriate field > > > > ... and everything Just Works. > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Huff > > > > > > Hi Robert > > > Seasons greetings > > > > > > Thanks v. much. > > > > > > With help from Olivier Nicole I was able to telnet to the printer 9100 > > > and text types got printed. My questions now are: > > > > > > 1. How do I manage to print single/double sided and determine the page > > > orientation for different jobs? > > > 2. How do I print images/ PCl /postscript. > > > > > > Olivier has a script which he will be sending me tomorrow but I do not > > > know whether that deals with those issues. > > > > install CUPS. > > > Installed and configured cups but cannot get the online login system to > work. > It refuses to accept username/password combination. > > Here are the relevant lines in cupsd.conf: > # Show shared printers on the local network. > Browsing On > BrowseOrder allow,deny > BrowseAllow all > BrowseLocalProtocols CUPS > > # Default authentication type, when authentication is required... > DefaultAuthType Basic > > # Restrict access to the server... > > > Order Deny, Allow > Deny from All > Allow from 127.0.0.1 > Allow from 62.49.197.50 > > > # Restrict access to the admin pages... > > AuthType Default > Require user @SYSTEM > Order Deny, Allow > Deny from All > Allow from 127.0.0.1 > Allow from 62.49.197.50 > > > # Restrict access to configuration files... > > AuthType Default > Require user @SYSTEM > Order Deny, Allow > Deny from All > Allow from 127.0.0.1 > Allow from 62.49.197.50 > Order allow,deny > > > > Relevant ports: > dns1# pkg_info |grep cups > cups-base-1.4.2_1 Common UNIX Printing System: Server > cups-client-1.4.2_1 Common UNIX Printing System: Library cups > cups-image-1.4.2_1 Common UNIX Printing System: Library cupsimage > cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files > cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_4 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS > printers > cups-samba-6.0_2 The Common UNIX Printing System: MS Windows client > drivers > cups-smb-backend-1.0_2 A CUPS backend for printing to Windows servers > gnome-cups-manager-0.31_10,1 Admistration tool for cups > gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_4 GutenPrint Printer Driver > libgnomecups-0.2.3_2,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration > py26-cups-1.9.46 CUPS bindings for Python > > > > have you tried logging in as root? i seem to remember something like this... regards, usleep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 20:42:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEC3106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CB98FC22 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so3419902fxm.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:42:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XTBRUOaD5MSTpVxguDTevpxePRgpJKpd99qEed1y0vM=; b=fJvTfnQ+VNxc7p/yGuK7zfKho7fC653mviSZv1hXB1OVXs8lqjWVNVWR4wHQAbou/q 939Va+lJ1yNWYEocb3cDwTfn8MS8ryNIS7gVmyKvnv9HnWaSi5WM8mNcC4qxAVul0zgH 4ohjtCEPOiisW172ZWJ1Iq5pf+qmSXShOtoRs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JttfW+MjywHKObxHnoSVUW4q1YMCQHTYbEuVRA7V35X1liklXaVnrNtT/gYlWtqR7O 2C6P9Lh8QIqjyrECtEsCN8j4laTTDtDIz4qfz+gQGbS5TxMEh/S/nzE9YD4HoxXYtxmh CWt0L0xkNo89gDfZaHo/m9Nu3PZ+FVCDiSFoo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.86.9 with SMTP id o9mr2935941mul.4.1260304976044; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:42:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> <4B1EA7F4.2070202@yahoo.it> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:42:55 +0100 Message-ID: From: usleepless@gmail.com To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ocean , Charles Howse , FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:42:58 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, ocean wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse >>>> wrote: >>>> Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. >>>> Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? >>>> Most of the >>>> games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. >>>> >>> >> >> if you install the right ports on a fbsd 8.0 maybe it could just works >> (it's being discussed in the freebsd forums: >> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5786 >> > > Please, not that horrible thread again. Just do what's in the Handbook ( > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html), > and Flash 10 works fine with native Firefox on FreeBSD 8. And Flash 9 works on 7.2 too. Have not had any problems with it yet. regards, usleep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 20:49:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E65106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A938FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7878E1CC1B; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:49:16 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4B1EBBCC.20706@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:49:16 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> <4B1EA7F4.2070202@yahoo.it> <20091208205910.bc63919e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091208205910.bc63919e.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ocean , Charles Howse , 'FreeBSD-Questions' Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:49:18 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:24:36 +0100, ocean wrote: >> also for the old computer i would recommend xfce or, since >> you say they only need a few programs, you could go with >> just Xorg + feh for the background + xfwm or openbox + a >> light taskbar and a nice dock-bar (wbar or simdock) were >> you will only put the applications they need to run. > > An alternative would be IcecWM: Easily configurable menu, > good window managing, no bloat. But I can second XFCE, > too. Maybe you want to run XFCE 3 which has some look & > feel of CDE, is easily configurable and very fast. (I > use it on a 300 MHz P2 with similar requirements as you > mentioned, but without any "Flash"). > > There's a nice dock-like application for X which is used > by the FreeSBIE live system CD. I've got no FreeSBIE at > hand, nor can I remember the application's name, but I > think this would be interesting to you, too. > > > Like Poly I too use XFCE 3 on all my FreeBSD desktops. Its light and fast and anyone can learn it quickly. I have Gnome on a Linux HP netbook and it is a lot slower. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 20:52:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38D610656AD for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497408FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so3429950fxm.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:52:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BYGHjVlGbm1rK7HBSowK0C2RVzICpQCnHRVN9R2ICm4=; b=rAeQ9HXxyG8jVf4SNRe+u9C2yuTrsbv0ZTyeAt9zGBMBPRYSozPZAVlONd+tn/Vj0A YZXX4l2lFNJSvtVDMe6fV6bAGQAEwVxQbjbXI2RDvJZZzfBeui5fZIoT3WFWHTot784X eZO9E+jhfMMi0e1jWmawzETmIFYAAHtndIQgw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RixgfexxJF1xZaQ//IC4e1wewRSp0ld2zC18bgdrlUaDoaYVRQumbecRTNXuKRv+tR La7AsBFJBEVQ8CC6B0eyMPgOuaMzXdvwNGX06ubcrn9DIYliOyRzHN5wfVn/l2wQkBLr WPRwbvExIr5eUeQ3nIrXQL+2ykg7jqTtwEmVc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.133 with SMTP id t5mr931933hbt.91.1260305572723; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:52:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091208210402.ad3ba281.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208195424.850e8363.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D498@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208202749.d3f3b697.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D4C3@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208210402.ad3ba281.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:52:52 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Peter Steele , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:52:57 -0000 2009/12/8 Polytropon > On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:43:41 -0600, Peter Steele > wrote: > > Yes, I know what a BSD slice is compared to a BSD partition. > > Considering that fdisk uses "partition" interchangeably in > > cases with "slice", I often do as well. I guess it can be > > confusing if one isn't careful with context. > > You're right - fdisk uses different terminology. > > > > > We already have a configuration in place on our smaller 1U > > boxes which are divided into three slices, one for the OS > > (with 2 partitions), one for swap, and the third slice for > > data. The third slice is divided into two partitions, one > > UFS and one raw. The first two slices are gmirrored, the > > third slice is not. > > Okay, now I understand. It's much more complex than it seemed > from your initial statement. :-) > > What you want in the end is e. g. > /dev/da1s1a = / > /dev/da1s1d = /usr (or maybe /usr/local) > /dev/da1s2b = swap > /dev/da1s3d = /bigstorage (or something similar) > /dev/da1s3e = raw > > > > > For consistency we want to use the same slice configuration > > for these large drives. We don't *have* to do it this way > > but it simplifies things for our legacy code. We're not > > using any gmirroring on these raid boxes of course, and we > > only need one partition on the third slice (no raw partition) > > but otherwise the layout will largely be the same. > > Then it looks to me that using gpt / gpart is the way to go... > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > stay away from dangerously dedicated it seems as though they are being phased out From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 20:55:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABB81065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575788FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A23ECF806A442B5; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:55:13 +0000 Message-ID: <4B1EBD31.6090606@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:55:13 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Howse References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> <4B1EA7F4.2070202@yahoo.it> <20091208205910.bc63919e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091208205910.bc63919e.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'FreeBSD-Questions' Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:55:15 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:24:36 +0100, ocean wrote: >> also for the old computer i would recommend xfce or, since >> you say they only need a few programs, you could go with >> just Xorg + feh for the background + xfwm or openbox + a >> light taskbar and a nice dock-bar (wbar or simdock) were >> you will only put the applications they need to run. > > An alternative would be IcecWM: Easily configurable menu, > good window managing, no bloat. But I can second XFCE, > too. Maybe you want to run XFCE 3 which has some look & > feel of CDE, is easily configurable and very fast. (I > use it on a 300 MHz P2 with similar requirements as you > mentioned, but without any "Flash"). > > There's a nice dock-like application for X which is used > by the FreeSBIE live system CD. I've got no FreeSBIE at > hand, nor can I remember the application's name, but I > think this would be interesting to you, too. > > > icewm is a nice lightweight wm (which I use) but with your hardware you might want to look at http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/ it's an xfce4 based installation dvd which includes many precompiled package. There are notes for installing flash. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 21:00:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A4D106568F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D468FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C633CC10; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:00:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nB8L0UVD002389; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:00:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:00:29 +0100 From: Polytropon To: krad Message-Id: <20091208220029.2052102f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208195424.850e8363.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D498@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208202749.d3f3b697.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D4C3@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091208210402.ad3ba281.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Peter Steele , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:00:32 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:52:52 +0000, krad wrote: > stay away from dangerously dedicated it seems as though they are being > phased out I've followed the related discussion, but I'm not sure what to conclude from it... as far as I understood, creating an installation "dangerously dedicated" mode isn't possible from sysinstall anymore, but still possible via the command line tools. I don't see a reason why it is considered to be something bad, but the inclusion of a "carrier slice" for the OS's partitions has always been recommended. But for data disks where only one partition is intended, why create it inside a slice? By the way, the OP intends to create more than one slice and then create one or two partitions within each slice, so "dangerously dedicated" disks wouldn't be a solution for him anyway. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 21:10:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D14E1065679 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCD98FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 16:10:48 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QJC22133; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 16:10:46 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19230.49365.777414.592475@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:10:45 -0500 To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <93B37107-DFAA-4F65-A9D2-C2F988E6E7E6@mac.com> References: <19230.36867.142189.339269@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <93B37107-DFAA-4F65-A9D2-C2F988E6E7E6@mac.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-problem starting sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:10:49 -0000 Chuck Swiger writes: > > STARTTLS=server, error: SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file(/etc/mail/CA/private/cakey.pem) failed > > > > appears in the log. The file exists and has permissions 0600. > > What am I probably looking at, and how do I find more specific information on the cause? > > Make sure none of the directories in that path have 022 perms > (go+write). Checked, and not the problem. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 21:21:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6C71065679 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gx0-f218.google.com (mail-gx0-f218.google.com [209.85.217.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0808FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so4629232gxk.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.21.42 with SMTP id 42mr14892804ybu.180.1260307312061; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([187.78.13.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm2548061ywg.49.2009.12.08.13.21.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:21:51 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mario Lobo Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:20:58 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081820.58583.lobo@bsd.com.br> Subject: Re: Tunning 8.0 for multiple VMs (VBox) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:21:54 -0000 On Sunday 29 November 2009 10:36:53 you wrote: > And your question was? > > > I would like to expose the hardware/settings I have now to the list, to > > see if what I've done is appropriate, over or under rated (or simply > > stupid), to squeeze every drop of performance FreeBSD can give with what > > I have. It is pretty fast as it is but it never hurts attempting to make > > it even better. > > This was the main idea, so people more knowledgeable and experienced could comment on it. I guess you could say the question was: " Am i doing it right?" or "can I do it better?" -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 21:27:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D32106568B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE738FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76758EB47D0; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:27:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67476452FB; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:27:28 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2fJaeyVzB7cN; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:27:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-224-63.home.otenet.gr [94.64.224.63]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2C3451B2; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:27:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB8LRRGR086918 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:27:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB8LRQDY086915; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:27:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Robert Huff References: <19230.36867.142189.339269@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:27:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <19230.36867.142189.339269@jerusalem.litteratus.org> (Robert Huff's message of "Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:42:27 -0500") Message-ID: <87my1t2m2p.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-problem starting sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:27:30 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:42:27 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > When I start sendmail, this: > > STARTTLS=server, error: SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file(/etc/mail/CA/private/cakey.pem) failed > > appears in the log. The file exists and has permissions 0600. What > am I probably looking at, and how do I find more specific information > on the cause? Hi Robert, This article from Linux Journal may help a bit: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4823 It mentions generating the certificate with the -nodes option to avoid an error exactly like the one you are quoting. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 21:33:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CD4106568F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64148FC1B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:33:26 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KUC00DU6RV7GJ10@asmtp029.mac.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <19230.49365.777414.592475@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:33:07 -0800 Message-id: References: <19230.36867.142189.339269@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <93B37107-DFAA-4F65-A9D2-C2F988E6E7E6@mac.com> <19230.49365.777414.592475@jerusalem.litteratus.org> To: Robert Huff X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-problem starting sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:33:27 -0000 Hi-- On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Robert Huff wrote: >> Make sure none of the directories in that path have 022 perms >> (go+write). > > Checked, and not the problem. Well, the error is coming from /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/src/tls.c, and depends on openssl to deal with your cert. Does: openssl verify -verbose /etc/mail/CA/private/cakey.pem ...say anything interesting? What about: openssl x509 -in /etc/mail/CA/private/cakey.pem -text Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 21:51:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACD110656A7 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=WGBm0Vk8=H2=beatsnet.com=beat.siegenthaler@beatsnet.com) Received: from atom.beatsnet.com (cl-26.zrh-01.ch.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:41e0:ff00:19::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDA38FC15 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.20.0.199] ([172.20.0.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by atom.beatsnet.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB8LpeYQ002768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:51:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from beat.siegenthaler@beatsnet.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=beatsnet.com; s=ATOM_DKIM; t=1260309101; bh=93ae5wi34XrAucSxWfp5oxfRHqHgNJciBcZ+sHSohO8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aFG7Z6L3Se5FQRopgpSWXoKr9m6IpyaDJjTXjVpT3rvkIUhB4pKcwC2MoiJI2blVG m7g7n5kKP4GisWBSRLF+Q5bb4tD9F2Pc4S3FIMzel/gltrf09W16YjSsxItAushlI0 5bjv6ckYew4/7sWA67lsaakfvGDvkJM33Whs2QA8= Message-ID: <4B1ECA6C.8050709@beatsnet.com> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:51:40 +0100 From: Beat Siegenthaler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (atom.beatsnet.com [172.20.0.45]); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:51:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at atom.beatsnet.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: bridge "filters" ipv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:51:44 -0000 Hi all, I have 7.2-RELEASE and a bridge between ath0 and sis0 everything works fine except ipv6 including router advertisements. There is no filtering, just a L2 bridge without any address. rtadv comes from lan/sis. What could be missing? bridge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 0a:03:b2:xx:fe:xx id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 member: sis0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 200000 member: ath0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 370370 ath0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:80:48:xx:cd:xx inet6 fe80::280:48xx:fexx:xxxx%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g status: associated ssid xxxxxxxxx channel 11 (2462 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:80:48:xx:cd:xx authmode WPA1+WPA2/802.11i privacy MIXED deftxkey 2 TKIP 2:128-bit txpower 22 scanvalid 60 bgscan bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi11g 7 roam:rate11g 5 pureg protmode RTSCTS wme burst dtimperiod 1 sis0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:0d:b9:xx:52:xx inet6 fe80::20d:b9ff:fe03:52fc%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 172.23.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.20.0.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 22:00:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E11106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966428FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so4808551bwz.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:00:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.15.145 with SMTP id k17mr9199568bka.212.1260309632430; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:00:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:00:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: Joey Mingrone To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: fixit and gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:00:35 -0000 Hello: I was upgrading a system from 7.2 to 8.0 and all was going well until the make installkernel step. The / partition filled up when the new kernel was installing. Since /boot was taking up most of the space I moved /boot to /usr/ and create a symlink in / then I did make installkernel again and everything completed. Unfortunately I didn't move the necessary bits from /usr/boot back to / before rebooting and now the system won't boot. I'm trying to use the fixit option with the livefs cd to repair the system, but I'm having problems with gmirror. The disks are in software raid0. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get /usr and / mounted from the mirror using fixit? Thanks, Joey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 22:09:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3B81065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp174.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp174.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995338FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1AC721DD742; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:09:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 6A9FC1DD869; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:09:06 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:09:04 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: Joey Mingrone , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: fixit and gmirror Thread-Index: Acp4Uw2kvisy1VglGky5pxS4PWCpwA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: fixit and gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:09:08 -0000 On 12/8/09 5:00 PM, "Joey Mingrone" wrote: > Hello: > > I was upgrading a system from 7.2 to 8.0 and all was going well until > the make installkernel step. The / partition filled up when the new > kernel was installing. Since /boot was taking up most of the space I > moved /boot to /usr/ and create a symlink in / then I did make > installkernel again and everything completed. Unfortunately I didn't > move the necessary bits from /usr/boot back to / before rebooting and > now the system won't boot. I'm trying to use the fixit option with > the livefs cd to repair the system, but I'm having problems with > gmirror. The disks are in software raid0. Can anyone point me in the > right direction to get /usr and / mounted from the mirror using fixit? in a recent situation which might be related, i was able to make progress with fixit only once i burned a 7.1 livefs cd. with 8.0 cds i got nowhere. with 7.1, it wasn't necessary to boot from cd1 and then insert livefs for fixit. the livefs disk booted str8 into sysinstall. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 22:09:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C4B10656AA for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B778FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NI8FA-0004Kq-DB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:09:16 -0800 Message-ID: <26701709.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:09:16 -0800 (PST) From: Ivo Karabojkov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091208095732.GA64581@ei.bzerk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: ivo@kit-bg.com References: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> <26679927.post@talk.nabble.com> <20091208095732.GA64581@ei.bzerk.org> Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:09:17 -0000 I have no problems with the hardware. In fact neither Release notes nor UPDATING says anything about my possible (and actually occured) problems. The only thing is:=20 =E2=80=9Cdangerously dedicated=E2=80=9D mode for the UFS file system is no = longer supported. I never supposed that I'm using this mode. I format disks and install with sysinstall without any special tuning for fdisk or disklabel. I prefer standard options to ensure smooth future upgrades. So I'd like to know how to distinguish mode of my current filesystems - is it standard or dangerously dedicated? Ruben de Groot wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 08:40:52AM -0800, Ivo Karabojkov typed: >>=20 >> I'm sharing this experience to bring your attention to major advice in >> the >> update procedure - to take full backup. >=20 > While not very new, that's allways good advice ;) >=20 >> My question is: how can I guess the result - "Glory" or "Sorrow" BEFORE >> starting the update? >=20 > Before starting: read the relnotes and errata and search for possible > problems, especially with your particular hardware. >=20 > Then, if you decide to go ahead, install the new kernel and try to boot i= t > in single user mode. This won't destroy anything and if you experience > problems > like missing devices you can easily back out by booting kernel.old. >=20 > Ruben > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/won%27t-boot-after-8.0-= RELEASE-upgrade-tp26628661p26701709.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 22:22:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DAB106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D268FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C723CC11; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:21:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nB8MLwc9002731; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:21:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:21:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ivo Karabojkov Message-Id: <20091208232158.f532a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <26701709.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> <26679927.post@talk.nabble.com> <20091208095732.GA64581@ei.bzerk.org> <26701709.post@talk.nabble.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:22:01 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:09:16 -0800 (PST), Ivo Karabojkov wrote: > So I'd like to know how > to distinguish mode of my current filesystems - is it standard or > dangerously dedicated? If you've first created a slice on the disk, and then partitions inside the slice, it's standard mode, e. g. ad0 a b d e f g { [ (/) (swap) (/tmp) (/var) (/usr) (/home) ] } s1 If you've omitted the slice, and created the partitions on the disk device itself, it's dangerosly dedicated mode, e. g. ad0 { (/) (swap) (/tmp) (/var) (/usr) (/home) } a b d e f g You can tell by the existence of ad0s1[adefg] vs. ad0[adefg] in /dev, or by trying to print the disks's slice table. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 22:38:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6FD1065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFECD8FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so2688198pzk.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:38:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=r8GzPzxXFDlRtUwKTN8SrOUB6fXH9QxZFT9KnGcvTAQ=; b=FFS5AlSV/EKmub76Rcy+KJUAGREYIG1jtKGRIZRwbYIGkseQjTPU0zSEonVcTigU7N OZJ23xEhxA/S1eVr+9mCOqNsbksodADAdz6oyRnr4tDpmHJYkFoeYsfHj2HX9uMsPnMc 3nePjmKCb+BLknXRiCTe2sknEp0jitCzBVwjU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=sFVZxapHOdgQgHY8Sb/4WFl85m+/uNkd3/+cmQUwo1UOC5gl6WipfVFbIaJ6pzPBxr k8ls818dzrKTmsmzA71Gq+gSqH3fEgoqxCRcvaIdT75TinRXoBkQuC1ExjJiSgabII1A /U6QY4elKfKOv8bkMSvoUbwr2LA53XRqsEXDA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.61.37 with SMTP id j37mr998482wfa.35.1260311922144; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:38:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> <4B1EA7F4.2070202@yahoo.it> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:38:42 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e0912081438y61010dc4lb3fc7001a00e22d0@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ocean , Charles Howse , FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:38:43 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, ocean wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse >>>> wrote: >>>> Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. >>>> Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? >>>> Most of the >>>> games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. >>>> >>> >> >> if you install the right ports on a fbsd 8.0 maybe it could just works >> (it's being discussed in the freebsd forums: >> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5786 >> > > Please, not that horrible thread again. Just do what's in the Handbook ( > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html), > and Flash 10 works fine with native Firefox on FreeBSD 8. > > > possibilities are firefox+flash for windows under wine which someone says >> it works, >> > > It works well. And the Java plugin works too. The only problem I see with > Windows Firefox on Wine is that it takes a double-click to close Firefox > windows or tabs. > > My child like flash games too, and I went with a vbox install as flash10 periodically dumps and hangs when running some of the more exotic flash games. I've seen the same thing happen on linux, but not as much on windows. Java plugin works great very stable but lacking some 3d stuff which makes gaming not as appealing(runescape). -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 22:50:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B39106568F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A4E8FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so4156269iwn.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:50:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ZUg9gkjsx725LdFn1d0t4w7pjgc5mRJWJKzDyNbo9A0=; b=H0nidBuqCC1Tl/JhJyf/bxCnFNHyeDvfOVJEDK37iNgIqQI9MhuceEBu3dP5t3APdT 9N+u2djyd/ohZDb+9aOsS4GdD4UOvt+SFYtv9zly6Gd4kM5jhY70JZz4FDp7KMsA5npI 16kn4SLQm1dzwbRRw1DwmcIwVB/ofidpWtqfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gJd010wf1n/zgC9+UWmEzc9A9c3osYgU75omPAOqoOrDG8b6eGlYcVdbkFJdKnbRFx 9YC2Q8z6VAXrUROfbk4JxNYh/Bllzodt9ZSvI0ukwMcIdxUt9YcZq3BVklr1Wi9mquyS YBaBgedfa5DKH8GWFSClVNIirRqFfh538cgg0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.81.148 with SMTP id x20mr351905ibk.2.1260312647173; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:50:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:50:46 -0800 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: OTish: Alternative to MS Live? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:50:48 -0000 All, Our new CEO wants me to poke holes in the firewall and install the MS client on a number of desktops to facilitate IM/videoconferencing for this. That makes me vaguely nauseous, for several security reasons (the client is historically vulnerable, poking holes in firewalls is risky, and internal corporate communications should stay internal - that'll do for a start...) I'm looking to stick an IM/Videoconference system in a DMZ instead. Does anyone know of a good alternative - preferably with a web interface, though that's not absolutely required? Thanks, Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 23:04:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1431065679 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dyioulos@firstbhph.com) Received: from mail1.firstbhph.com (65.105.102.163.ptr.us.xo.net [65.105.102.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D5B8FC19 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mepis1.headquarters.firstbhph.com (mepis1.headquarters.firstbhph.com [192.168.100.52]) by mail1.firstbhph.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB8N3j94003640 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:03:50 -0500 From: Dimitri Yioulos Organization: First 1 Financial Corporation To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:03:47 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200912081803.48717.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> X-Synonym: Copied by Synonym (http://www.modulo.ro/synonym) to: archive@firstbhph.com X-First1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact First 1 Financial Corporation for more information X-First1-MailScanner-ID: nB8N3j94003640 X-First1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-First1-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 1) X-MailScanner-From: dyioulos@firstbhph.com X-MailScanner-To: archive@firstbhph.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-First1-MailScanner-Watermark: 1260918231.01371@5sG5Gb3XXL4uZyul2w9SqQ Subject: Re: OTish: Alternative to MS Live? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:04:20 -0000 On Tuesday 08 December 2009 5:50:46 pm Kurt Buff wrote: > All, > > Our new CEO wants me to poke holes in the > firewall and install the MS client on a number > of desktops to facilitate IM/videoconferencing > for this. > > That makes me vaguely nauseous, for several > security reasons (the client is historically > vulnerable, poking holes in firewalls is risky, > and internal corporate communications should > stay internal - that'll do for a start...) > > I'm looking to stick an IM/Videoconference > system in a DMZ instead. > > Does anyone know of a good alternative - > preferably with a web interface, though that's > not absolutely required? > > Thanks, > > Kurt > _______________________________________________ Others may come up with better solutions, but you might want to look at OpenFire for your IM needs (I use it in my shop; it's secure and works great), and maybe dimdim for vidconf (both hosted - free for up to 20 conferees, and locally installed options). Dimitri -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 23:25:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C561065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:25:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D587D8FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 18:25:45 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LHH41047; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:25:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 18:25:45 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19230.57463.718813.429728@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:25:43 -0500 To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <87my1t2m2p.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <19230.36867.142189.339269@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <87my1t2m2p.fsf@kobe.laptop> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-problem starting sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:25:46 -0000 I just generated new keys using the method specified the the article recommended by Giorgos, and I get the same result. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 00:10:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C0E1065676 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB7B8FC08 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so4199860iwn.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:10:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=x62z/gB6YPZPU7nGwo35X48mbVGUut47r3oLZbI8IGg=; b=u+/aE4yhQyZsXuFDrtLLd/oTet6igSyKB6MUyV9GoYLWrFvtPCtH7ve2bvYzz6BMU4 JhM7Kuym+ZFmOTnJ7L4WoAan6KXnrnJ0uEUnzH+WC6bioeMYrx//mGTUY67ud7vmfvrP 4ZmTzlD+3Tu4TtSmFCI8Zp89AfhHTkn0mbNE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IElDSi7JQDeQRbmiI44zZv9TrUC29WzkWiNIhxQoYNSnRuhWNLYwGRNfAyBT0SyLst MKCnK4TFMvdEyRWUnJY/eLZ3/xitxvI1ahUHE+pwcL+tFJx5mUznKv5NwPo/dteSUbs1 d7S9PRfIbmddPLHPJnS1s/2FbpPHY4aBEk9V0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.125.28 with SMTP id w28mr623713ibr.50.1260317432758; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:10:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200912081803.48717.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> References: <200912081803.48717.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:10:32 -0800 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: OTish: Alternative to MS Live? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:10:34 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 15:03, Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > On Tuesday 08 December 2009 5:50:46 pm Kurt Buff > wrote: >> All, >> >> Our new CEO wants me to poke holes in the >> firewall and install the MS client on a number >> of desktops to facilitate IM/videoconferencing >> for this. >> >> That makes me vaguely nauseous, for several >> security reasons (the client is historically >> vulnerable, poking holes in firewalls is risky, >> and internal corporate communications should >> stay internal - that'll do for a start...) >> >> I'm looking to stick an IM/Videoconference >> system in a DMZ instead. >> >> Does anyone know of a good alternative - >> preferably with a web interface, though that's >> not absolutely required? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kurt >> _______________________________________________ > > > Others may come up with better solutions, but you > might want to look at OpenFire for your IM needs > (I use it in my shop; it's secure and works > great), and maybe dimdim for vidconf (both > hosted - free for up to 20 conferees, and locally > installed options). > > Dimitri The locally installed option would be what I'm interested in. I'll check those out. Thanks. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 00:22:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC21106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7C28FC17 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091209002219.FTTI21519.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:22:19 -0500 Received: from Moe ([24.176.96.204]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id EoN71d00J4QaV3L05oNJCa; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:22:18 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=HMxvHZAMvzIvfpDo0DgA:9 a=YTtlTnh1isacNbt48qMA:7 a=BwfvXBhwNNue--tRAFM6rUBiOQoA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'FreeBSD-Questions'" References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:22:07 -0600 Message-ID: <001201ca7865$aa7a1d00$ff6e5700$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acp4IvPrBauHi4RGRD23VIaCd7DglgAIxSkQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: RE: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:22:20 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of krad > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:24 AM > To: Charles Howse > Cc: FreeBSD-Questions > Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o > > 2009/12/8 Charles Howse > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Adam Vande More [mailto:amvandemore@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:56 AM > > > To: Charles Howse > > > Cc: FreeBSD-Questions > > > Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. > > > Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? > > > Most of the > > > games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please don't top post, thanks. > > > > My apologies to the group, I forgot. :) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > you probably also want java as well, a lot of those children's game > sites > use all kind of horrible stuff. I have an older Power Mac that I've decided to use instead. It's all configured and running well, and I don't use it much anymore since I have Windows 7 Ultimate now on the PC. It's already set up with Parental Controls for the grandson, and has everything the daughter will need as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 01:37:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C391065670 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7B58FC08 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98D83A386C; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:37:44 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1260322664; x= 1262137064; bh=HdYaPubqrJZPQ6LkTI6FzqfBrv6s0rK6zVeNhfPp/hY=; b=Q zo3vpku7W6OVufMwOYb/YIGFbxR8HGTZUQRyEwzDvF7kR9r7hmZCK6OTLMOKoL2v EYoxWJBIJHORAgw3RqPyDNnoyJam2wjlKAcGSrTxHXaV5rfMM9uWpTLi29dbSgC8 +KoMflve36MZnQs1HMhfo8AGi/C8c3kjxoY5CCC5Aw= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id wCfSV4KVZnoU; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:37:44 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 018623A385A; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:37:43 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB91bfPG082751; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:37:41 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:37:41 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912090137.nB91bfPG082751@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: david@vizion2000.net In-reply-to: <200912081426.25130.david@vizion2000.net> (message from David Southwell on Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:26:25 +0000) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <19230.20297.454639.6513@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200912081426.25130.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:37:47 -0000 David, Here it is: - in /etc/printcap: big:hp4300:\ :sd=/var/spool/big:\ :mx=0:rs:sh:\ :lp=/dev/null:\ :if=/usr/spool/big_new:\ - in /etc/rc.conf: lpd_enable="YES" - the script /usr/spool/big_new. The location of the script is not the best one, it should ideally go into /usr/local/spool. This script does much, much more than what you expect: it has a print quota system, based on a LDAP directory; but also does what you want: - starting around the line "Use Socket;" is the part sending the file to the printer; - all the jobs are encapsulated in a PCL job that forces duplex printing; note if the file you are printing specify that the job shiould be printed single sided, then it will be single sided, but if nothing is sayd, it is printed double sided; - if the file is plain text (not PostScript, not PCL), the end of lines are converted to \r\n; - this script has several timeout when trying to connect to the printer, and a general timeout of 20 minutes, so no job should exceed that time once it started (which is theorically 1000 pages on the newer/fastest printers); - the script should be able to tell you how many pages were used by a job (I did a minus one there because some of our users are touchy regarding their print quota, and some jobs were reported to be two pages while only printed on the recto, must be something with CTRL-L at the end of the job); - the script needs a number of Perl modules, all available from the ports; it does a fair job at loging to syslog when $dbg is set to 1; - in a previous version, I had been using this script with a HP 2200dn. I hope you speak Perl :) Bests, Olivier #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w use strict; my $printer="hp4300dtn.cs.ait.ac.th"; my $timeout=20*60; # longest job in seconds my $dbg=1; use Unix::Syslog qw(:macros); # Syslog macros use Unix::Syslog qw(:subs); # Syslog functions openlog "print_quota", LOG_PID, LOG_LPR; use Mail::SendEasy ; my $mail = new Mail::SendEasy(smtp => 'mail.cs.ait.ac.th') ; syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG staring with ARGV @ARGV" if $dbg; syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG printer $printer" if $dbg; while ($#ARGV>=0 && $ARGV[0] ne "-n") { shift @ARGV; } our $user=$ARGV[1]; if ($user eq "nobody") { # Purge the print job open IN, "-"; while () { } exit; } our $host=$ARGV[3]; use Net::LDAP; our $ldap=Net::LDAP->new('ldaps://ldap.cs.ait.ac.th/'); if (! defined $ldap) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Cannot connect to LDAP server"; open IN, "-"; while () { } exit 1; } my $mesg=$ldap->bind("cn=PrintQuotaAdmin,ou=Administrator,ou=csim,dc=cs,dc=ait,dc=ac,dc=th", password=>"******"); if (! defined $mesg) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Cannot bind to LDAP server"; open IN, "-"; while () { } exit 1; } syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG binding LDAP done" if $dbg; $mesg=$ldap-> search(base=>"ou=PrintQuota,ou=Resources,ou=csim,dc=cs,dc=ait,dc=ac,dc=th", scope=>'one', attrs=>['ou', 'description'], filter=>"(ou=*)"); if ($mesg->code) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Error while reading PrintQuota base in LDAP: ".$mesg->error; # Purge the print job open IN, "-"; while () { } exit 1; } my $entry; our %basequota; foreach $entry ($mesg->entries) { my $type=$entry->get_value('ou'); my $quota=$entry->get_value('description'); $basequota{$type}=$quota; } syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG loading quota base done" if $dbg; $mesg=$ldap-> search(base=>"ou=people,ou=csim,dc=cs,dc=ait,dc=ac,dc=th", attrs=>['csimPrintQuotaType', 'csimPrintQuotaAdditional', 'csimPrintQuotaUsed'], filter => "(uid=$user)"); if ($mesg->code) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Error while accessing user $user in LDAP: ".$mesg->error; # Purge the print job open IN, "-"; while () { } exit 1; } if ($mesg->count() != 1) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Found more than one user $user in LDAP"; # Purge the print job open IN, "-"; while () { } exit 1; } $entry=$mesg->entry(0); if (! defined $entry) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Could not find the user $user in LDAP"; # Purge the print job open IN, "-"; while () { } exit 1; } our $type=$entry->get_value('csimPrintQuotaType'); our $add=$entry->get_value('csimPrintQuotaAdditional'); our $used=$entry->get_value('csimPrintQuotaUsed'); $type=~s/^[^=]*=\s*//; $type=~s/\s*,.*$//; our $base=$basequota{$type}; syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG user $user found and quota loaded" if $dbg; if ($type=~/blocked/i) { # We could have a warning here, but I doubt people will read it # print "User $user is over quota: $used{$user} ($quot{$user})\n"; my $status = $mail->send( from => 'daemon@cs.ait.ac.th' , from_title => 'Print Daemon', to => "$user\@cs.ait.ac.th" , subject => "Your print quota is blocked" , msg => "Your print quota is blocked. Printing has been disabled from your account. You should contact a system administrator to get your account unblocked. "); # Purge the print job open IN, "-"; while () { } syslog LOG_ERR, "Quota blocked for user $user in LDAP"; exit; } elsif ($type!~/unlimited/i && $base+$add<$used) { # We could have a warning here, but I doubt people will read it # print "User $user is over quota: $used{$user} ($quot{$user})\n"; my $avail=$base+$add; my $status = $mail->send( from => 'daemon@cs.ait.ac.th' , from_title => 'Print Daemon', to => "$user\@cs.ait.ac.th" , subject => "Print quota exceeded" , msg => "Your print usage exceeds your print quota. So far you have printed $used pages when your quota is $base + $add. To resume printing, you can buy more print quota, please look at the web page http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/laboratory/printer/purchase.shtml "); # Purge the print job open IN, "-"; while () { } syslog LOG_ERR, "Quota exceeded for user $user, type: $type, used: $used, base: $base, additional: $add"; exit; } use Socket; use IO::Socket::INET; my $count=0; our $sock=IO::Socket::INET->new(PeerAddr => "$printer:jetdirect(9100)"); while ((! defined $sock) && ($count<=10)) { sleep 20; syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG connecting to the printer $printer, try $count" if $dbg; $sock=IO::Socket::INET->new(PeerAddr => "$printer:jetdirect(9100)"); $count++; } if ($count>10) { syslog LOG_ERR, "The printer $printer cannot be connected"; # Purge the print job open IN, "-"; while () { } exit 1; } syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG printer connected" if $dbg; $sock->autoflush(1); $sock->timeout(10); our $ID_STRING="TIME=".localtime()." PID=$$ USER=$user HOST=$host"; # $SIG{'ALRM'}='do_alarm'; my $child=fork; if (! defined $child) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Cannot fork a process"; # Purge the print job open IN, "-"; while () { } exit 1; } syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG process forked successfully" if $dbg && (! $child); if ($child==0) { # parent process $sock->print("%-12345X\@PJL JOB NAME=\"$ID_STRING\"\r\n"); $sock->print("\@PJL USTATUS JOB=ON\r\n"); $sock->print("\@PJL SET DUPLEX=ON\r\n"); syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG parent header printed" if $dbg; open IN, "-"; my $l=; my $t=0; $t=1 unless $l=~/^(\\%.*\@PJL)|(%!PS)/; $l=~s/([^\r])?\n/$1\r\n/g if $t; $sock->print($l); while () { s/([^\r])?\n/$1\r\n/g if $t; $sock->print($_); } syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG parent job printed" if $dbg; $sock->print("%-12345X\@PJL EOJ NAME=\"$ID_STRING\"\r\n"); $sock->print("%-12345X\r\n"); syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG footer printed, parent waiting for end the child" if $dbg; wait; syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG child has terminated" if $dbg; } else { # child process # $sock->blocking(0); my $pages; my $end=0; my $job=0; my $what; $SIG{'ALRM'}='do_alarm'; alarm $timeout; syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG in child" if $dbg; while ($sock->opened && defined($_=$sock->getline)) { syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG child received line: $_" if $dbg; if (/^NAME=\"([^\"]+)\"/ && ($1 ne $ID_STRING)) { $what=$1; syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG child original job name $what" if $dbg; } $end=1 if $_ =~ /^END/; $job=1 if $end && $_ =~ /^NAME=\"$ID_STRING\"/; $pages=$1 if $end && $job && $_ =~ /^PAGES=(\d+)/; if ($end && $job && ((defined $pages) || / /)) { $sock->shutdown(SHUT_RDWR) if defined $sock && $sock->opened; last; } } $SIG{'ALRM'}='IGNORE'; $sock->shutdown(SHUT_RDWR) if defined $sock && $sock->opened; if (! defined $pages) { syslog LOG_ERR, "the job existed with no page count"; $sock->shutdown(SHUT_RDWR) if $sock->opened; exit; } syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG print job terminated properly" if $dbg; $pages-=1; # because 1 pages counts for 2, 3 pages count for 4 etc. exit if $pages<1; # Update the page count for the user $mesg=$ldap->modify ("uid=$user,ou=People,ou=csim,dc=cs,dc=ait,dc=ac,dc=th", add =>{csimPrintQuotaLock => "$ID_STRING"}); if ($mesg->code) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Error while writing the lock string $ID_STRING for user $user in LDAP: ".$mesg->error; exit; } syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG lock $ID_STRING written" if $dbg; my $lock; $count=0; do { # read the first lock string in csimPrintQuotaLock # if this string is not our ID_STRING, it means another printer # is updating quota # it seems that LDAp organize the strings in a FIFO $mesg=$ldap->search(base=>"ou=people,ou=csim,dc=cs,dc=ait,dc=ac,dc=th", attrs=>['csimPrintQuotaLock', 'csimPrintQuotaUsed'], filter => "(uid=$user)"); if ($mesg->code) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Error while accessing lock of user $user in LDAP: ".$mesg->error; &do_exit_bad_lock; } if ($mesg->count() != 1) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Found more than one user $user in LDAP when reading quota lock"; &do_exit_bad_lock; } $entry=$mesg->entry(0); if (! defined $entry) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Could not find the user $user in LDAP when reading quota lock"; &do_exit_bad_lock; } $lock=($entry->get_value('csimPrintQuotaLock'))[0]; $count++; syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG lock $lock read on $count try" if $dbg; } until ($lock eq $ID_STRING) || $count>=10; if ($count>=10) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Could not acquire the lock $ID_STRING, found $lock"; &do_exit_bad_lock; } # Now we have the lock! $used=$pages + $entry->get_value('csimPrintQuotaUsed'); $entry->replace('csimPrintQuotaUsed', $used); $entry->delete('csimPrintQuotaLock', [$ID_STRING]); my $msg=$entry->update($ldap); if ($msg->code) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Could not update used quota for user $user in LDAP: ".$msg->error; } syslog LOG_DEBUG, "DBG quota updated and lock removed" if $dbg; # send and email if the usage has reached 90% of the quota if ($type!~/unlimited/i && (($add+$base)*0.9<$used)) { my $avail=$add+$base; my $left=$avail-$used; my $status = $mail->send( from => 'daemon@cs.ait.ac.th' , from_title => 'Print Daemon', to => "$user\@cs.ait.ac.th" , subject => "Print usage over 90% of quota" , msg => "Your print usage is over 90% of your print quota. So far you have printed $used pages out of your quota of $base + $add. You have $left pages left to print before you get over quota. To prevent being blocked, you should buy more print quota, please look at the web page http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/laboratory/printer/purchase.shtml "); syslog LOG_INFO, "Quota low for user $user, type: $type, used: $used, base: $base, additional: $add."; } # log the job my $log="Print job "; $log.="\"$what\" " if defined $what; $log.=", on printer $printer, for user $user, pages=$pages, from host $host"; syslog LOG_INFO, $log; } sub do_alarm { $sock->shutdown(SHUT_RDWR) if defined $sock && $sock->opened; syslog LOG_ERR, "The print job for user $user has timed out"; my $status = $mail->send( from => 'daemon@cs.ait.ac.th' , from_title => 'Print Daemon', to => "root\@cs.ait.ac.th" , subject => "Print job exited on time out" , msg => "A print job has exited on time out. grep print_quota /var/log/all on sysl.cs.ait.ac.th. "); exit 1; } sub do_exit_bad_lock { # Something failed when reading the lock, we force remove it # A trailing lock in the csimPrintQuotaLock FIFO would cause # a infinite loop for next print job $sock->shutdown(SHUT_RDWR) if defined $sock && $sock->opened; my $status = $mail->send( from => 'daemon@cs.ait.ac.th' , from_title => 'Print Daemon', to => "root\@cs.ait.ac.th" , subject => "Print job cannot acquire the lock" , msg => "A print job cannot acquire the lock. Check the attribute csimPrintQuotaLock for all users in LDAP (use advanced Search with the filter csimPrintQuotaLock=*). "); $mesg=$ldap->modify ("uid=$user,ou=People,ou=csim,dc=cs,dc=ait,dc=ac,dc=th", delete =>{csimPrintQuotaLock => "$ID_STRING"}); if ($mesg->code) { syslog LOG_ERR, "Error while removing the lock by FORCE string $ID_STRING for user $user in LDAP: ".$mesg->error; } exit; } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 01:40:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02721065679 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f190.google.com (mail-px0-f190.google.com [209.85.216.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85C68FC22 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi28 with SMTP id 28so1616685pxi.7 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:40:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=uswbmBmi/smuKMVenZdUXZpM6OTCcwqeok+C6OeMDhc=; b=YOKwChw1ETx/7aDzSzsfaNAtWlZvZEkwxDtRHknoziANisRowQVpJ/EybCCSG8NEVt PqFVgZRQ/Jqh21SE8KCxkGi1oKHgMwl/cmfMfceQeD6GlCTbwATP/mJDpNHBCdMrph0n sgodbPDfJjF7DTUqsViOPHSgC/Ia1pVzxRtv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=sgvlGVfy+FDR79vvH0SqfxRwHes5yv9SLGSfcTeDrCr5bdydn/qLOzqD8AJPTiqSD5 Hhl5EijAvbhklkYCkc/b45E9OrbvdpkZZ9a5Zx+5Z5inNbqqWzBMZrpQCC6YLgq0zYzd VVr2XaJmf7ADThgpJydzIBWHm98fN++GWURcs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.163.13 with SMTP id l13mr16916444wae.139.1260322814054; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:40:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:40:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Joey Mingrone Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fixit and gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:40:14 -0000 On 12/8/09, Joey Mingrone wrote: > Hello: > > I was upgrading a system from 7.2 to 8.0 and all was going well until > the make installkernel step. The / partition filled up when the new > kernel was installing. Since /boot was taking up most of the space I > moved /boot to /usr/ and create a symlink in / then I did make > installkernel again and everything completed. Unfortunately I didn't > move the necessary bits from /usr/boot back to / before rebooting and > now the system won't boot. I'm trying to use the fixit option with > the livefs cd to repair the system, but I'm having problems with > gmirror. The disks are in software raid0. Can anyone point me in the > right direction to get /usr and / mounted from the mirror using fixit? > Because the livefs uses a MFSROOT system (allows you to make changes to the ram-based disk image after boot), you have to load kernel modules before the mfsroot is mounted. As an example.. boot cd escape to loader prompt load /boot/kernel/geom_mirror.ko load /boot/kernel/smbfs.ko (if needed, i had to load two modules the time i had to use it) boot And I would like to note.. raid0 is striping, gstripe. raid1 is mirroring. I find it hard to recognize raid0 as your boot device. Let me know if you need further help. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 01:40:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D974E1065672 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f190.google.com (mail-px0-f190.google.com [209.85.216.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F648FC16 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi28 with SMTP id 28so1617017pxi.7 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:40:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YXLIyufSU615PEn2Z6p93bBmXtl4/iPLISIszNR/lr4=; b=xGWmqusGyOhG7Dni1c1oEncP3IPC9FA05A3RNWcNC1J7cyb8U+thrbb091b7M/RKds kNLtuy71B6BDkMUaoA2cWe4nLZ10HyPvd3+imykc5Nl55bcsLooMgJd2uAi1qdCf1vgO bGQntm3nB8hX725MSHPj7pfGT+wkHv06Ipkf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IWzm22uJyORhEId78bq5z8lRAKgCbtRjjQkNS03ucqqLZ3SDlN0qkU8AbSwYQKTTO8 rzKGUyKDHyVkCuIzvJlKLRdegWXDpjmG9EPx+y07SlBKUZcU3G9nJZoJY78FT12OY5an XnCtzNC2LVo9O8EZ6oMHGvuTcdTAJhb8ln26w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.9.16 with SMTP id 16mr996992wfi.92.1260322853352; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:40:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090629200736.GD5796@kokopelli.hydra> References: <20090629200736.GD5796@kokopelli.hydra> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:40:53 -0600 Message-ID: <11167f520912081740p533165dbx5685d3db74513be5@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Chomium on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:40:53 -0000 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 06:47:53PM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: >> Is there an effort to build a port of chromium for FreeBSD? I recently >> began using chromium on my Linux machine, and the HTML rendering speed >> is quite impressive. >> >> When it has the ability to synchronize bookmarks, I'll use it exclusivel= y. > > I second this sentiment. =A0I quite like Chrome/Chromium thus far, and > would love to have it available on FreeBSD -- combining my browser of > choice with my OS of choice. =A0As things currently stand, I get to use a > browser I like slightly less most of the time, and my browser of choice > on an OS I quite dislike on the rare occasion I need to do cross-platform > Web development testing. I don't know much about Chromium at this point, but has anyone tried to build the sources on FreeBSD? Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 01:41:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B5E10656A6 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp234.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp234.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135B28FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay13.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay13.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 90F2E1CE4D9; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay13.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 5AC531CA7DA; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:41:32 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:41:31 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: Polytropon , Ivo Karabojkov Message-ID: Thread-Topic: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade Thread-Index: Acp4cLtyUaPAMUfl4UyDbAMoZ2gBFQ== In-Reply-To: <20091208232158.f532a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:41:33 -0000 On 12/8/09 5:21 PM, "Polytropon" wrote: > On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:09:16 -0800 (PST), Ivo Karabojkov > wrote: >> So I'd like to know how >> to distinguish mode of my current filesystems - is it standard or >> dangerously dedicated? > > If you've first created a slice on the disk, and then > partitions inside the slice, it's standard mode, e. g. > > ad0 a b d e f g > { [ (/) (swap) (/tmp) (/var) (/usr) (/home) ] } > s1 > > If you've omitted the slice, and created the partitions > on the disk device itself, it's dangerosly dedicated mode, e. g. > > ad0 > { (/) (swap) (/tmp) (/var) (/usr) (/home) } > a b d e f g > > You can tell by the existence of ad0s1[adefg] vs. ad0[adefg] > in /dev, or by trying to print the disks's slice table. thank you. that's good to know. now that i know that my machine was not using DD mode before the upgrade to 8.0, it seems there ought to be a chance to make it boot. the boot loader can see the partitions ad4s1[abdef] but the 8.0 kernel that was installed with freebsd-update can't. isn't there some trick with dd to zero out the geom metadata and makes the partitions look like ordinary again? (i was about 30 hours into copying the data off the disk to another machine when my router died so i'm back at square 1 now, which was described in my email at 11.14am est on dec 3rd.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 01:42:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C03110656A4 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB95A8FC1C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FF53A3870; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:41:59 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1260322919; x= 1262137319; bh=7z+QfM6KDB/BqaPRPW7D8+GcuD3zDuHnxbxhVgcTZcY=; b=k 5b2ODBzmcFknxfcREBTuT1OkP1/StYqTvKg7e0RHRAJPxva/cR9VJ7U49+mu86y5 iqnkolU2QUKGon2egYWZfCVZxDlRvxaRUF/yhDM6btwOJkdXB9ffX9+f5b3Hte1i QvgF4w5FE2Z/E6PvKgJjn/EiguNHkzzOHjQFYi/Eco= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id P7cBxV-E5xfc; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:41:59 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFE083A385A; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:41:58 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB91fwZI082775; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:41:58 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:41:58 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912090141.nB91fwZI082775@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: david@vizion2000.net In-reply-to: <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> (message from David Southwell on Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:17 +0000) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081052.nB8Aqf7X072178@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:42:01 -0000 By the way, something forgot to mention: the script only copies a file from your computer to the printer; it does not do much magic appart from that. As far as I remember, HP 2200 do not understand image files, so you must use an external software (xv from ports?) to print your image. But you would need some software on Windows too. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 01:56:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35748106566C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:56:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4EF8FC13 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so3622682fxm.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:56:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uPkxuwWHxCsGfaAXQMpaRv+iV4/uv2yj+maUK0iOxEE=; b=sZpVQ3aKFI71h8eRQlYeWgHStlgOMkGN7Z5ls3+W+gb+hg00qCe98s1pwHuaH1X7NC /xR5nd/z33VC0YJ3LBKh23HYeZtx3qjIn4Y3NMvHoe3NgJ5g9S9bX9XAE5TnnFhF0nrU HZ7TBYDr8M9vKB3i5h/NDoJmeohWxJwIl35EQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=yBaqmRHhYSWuSky/fqd3N4I57WV5rS1zhq948ejf2HXArn/iXfRKFY1rMPs4EHiCil qPYU3FN4s9jw+mLa4wMxqDZlzo0Lg8IBpym7DZdy3aT7txCthlqeNVsZ+k3A4naDurxn DeCThh8vbnmo4HxIWyejmI78pSKnmeVKSmHMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.127.198 with SMTP id h6mr1291331fas.102.1260323807407; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:56:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <11167f520912081740p533165dbx5685d3db74513be5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090629200736.GD5796@kokopelli.hydra> <11167f520912081740p533165dbx5685d3db74513be5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:56:47 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912081756g1953ff59ge4769be0ea0add3d@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: sfourman@gmail.com, djuatdelta@gmail.com, perrin@apotheon.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chomium on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:56:49 -0000 Hi On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 06:47:53PM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: >>> Is there an effort to build a port of chromium for FreeBSD? I recently >>> began using chromium on my Linux machine, and the HTML rendering speed >>> is quite impressive. >>> >>> When it has the ability to synchronize bookmarks, I'll use it exclusive= ly. >> >> I second this sentiment. =A0I quite like Chrome/Chromium thus far, and >> would love to have it available on FreeBSD -- combining my browser of >> choice with my OS of choice. =A0As things currently stand, I get to use = a >> browser I like slightly less most of the time, and my browser of choice >> on an OS I quite dislike on the rare occasion I need to do cross-platfor= m >> Web development testing. > > I don't know much about Chromium at this point, but has anyone tried > to build the sources on FreeBSD? > This project [1] has been working on getting Chrom(ium) on FreeBSD for some time. I haven't used it recently (since I switched my main machine to amd64), but it was pretty stable on i386. [1] - http://chromium.jaggeri.com/ Regards, --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 02:50:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF011065670 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 02:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175418FC14 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 02:50:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 15960405 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:50:29 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:50:30 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:50:29 -0600 Thread-Topic: What is proper process for source installs? Thread-Index: Acp4el4wicJMndOORvmRdR+KQaBMxQ== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D678@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: What is proper process for source installs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:50:32 -0000 We had been building systems from the binary release plus our custom kernel= . In doing that we just used the base collection from the 8.0 binary releas= e DVD and copied our kernel files to /boot/kernel. We are now doing both in= stallworld and installkernel. The issue I'm having is figuring out what els= e is needed to complete the package. For example, /etc is not part of insta= llworld, as well as a number of other text files. My inclination is to inst= all the base package from the 8.0 binary release, and then update that set = with whatever is produced by installworld. However, when I try to combine t= he trees I get these errors: bin/rcp: Can't unlink already-existing object: Operation not permitted lib/libc.so.7: Can't unlink already-existing object: Operation not permitte= d lib/libcrypt.so.5: Can't unlink already-existing object: Operation not perm= itted lib/libthr.so.3: Can't unlink already-existing object: Operation not permit= ted libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Can't unlink already-existing object: Operation not pe= rmitted and so on. So it's safe to say just merging the trees like this isn't the w= ay to go. What is the proper process to finish a bsd image after installwor= ld and installkernel is done? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 02:57:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B528106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 02:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32ECD8FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 02:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so5644264yxe.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:57:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:organization:x-operating-system:x-mailer:user-agent :x-face:face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2AOIqCXQaJ2/kAWv3hy/aS6kmklVGiISXynAN4Jv8JQ=; b=ZMyCnHm0DoewJVyr6eUT9g+EZYu6u1qHib8XH3XEQv5NmCbgn6WEpxAdfN5ipentxH W4qmAKjsacS2gGLadT1R+v9TvrWNVhQ0nxs9J+oyQmgIj/pWVnf4UqMJv/DTaoypAkUY 9wm+mZd8at8z0/CfR7fYsz7qr4YBWDjOrdMmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:x-operating-system :x-mailer:user-agent:x-face:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NamN3yRUcnwudXbX86vYViK3ezH07W2TkIcvsjPTsA2XoTF8/JpgPfIDKheLRDF0xW UG4Fx2zPmauV+e6aeIm2vmmHwtTWPZi6B3Wgf5zHOWYUzqPK63vaLftLw12FGwc84fQX BhXpd6Y1Qri9bdojs3nUmCn9nyNdwt6ncioB4= Received: by 10.150.27.31 with SMTP id a31mr15326022yba.296.1260327478161; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from icy.localdomain ([118.69.224.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm2647774ywe.11.2009.12.08.18.57.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:57:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:57:37 +0700 From: "Anh K. =?UTF-8?B?SHXhu7NuaA==?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091209095737.63be955a@icy.localdomain> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) User-Agent: Moveup mail on Windows 98 X-Face: no-face Face: no-face Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: build a port that depends on Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:57:59 -0000 Hi, I am going to build a port (named `vue`, http://vue.tufts.edu/) that depends on Java libraries but I don't know how to set the dependencies (the RUN_DEPENDS variable in `Makefile`). I know some kinds of Java and don't know which one should be used. At least, Vue works well with OpenJDK6. Another problem is that the original file for port is in `.zip` format. As far as I know `.zip` isn't natively supported in FreeBSD. Should I convert that file to `.tar.gz` format and redistribute in my site (instead of using file from VUE master site?). Though using "EXTRACT_DEPENDS=unzip:${PORTSDIR}/archivers/unzip" is possible I think such usage is so expensive :) Thank you for your helps, Regards, -- Anh K. Huynh - TeX: http://viettug.org/ - BSD: http://lovebsd.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 03:01:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A470106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:01:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFB98FC13 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE2C3A3853; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:00:58 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1260327658; x= 1262142058; bh=Nt2Xg3F0TQrCV/E1J6ewNWySmjmKpurVSOb9USgvjcU=; b=a A4LytphdVjPeJPaFKpv+n3oOdHQmosRRuBw4a6/qPOpvqhEmW59YFpoJRR/I81r1 84ubbDE0y5Rlu9GP2XP+OhF0LzIP5MlDTZgvIMWAh4pm+Dm5cR1lG0COuQ6r2cdE Aiql5+eE5s8XCPIC7kK9CxdwXcyotfWN5+vevjpHZA= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ieFCKhDfBDpw; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:00:58 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98BC43A383A; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:00:57 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB930sgQ083464; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:00:54 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:00:54 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912090300.nB930sgQ083464@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: psteele@maxiscale.com In-reply-to: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D678@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> (message from Peter Steele on Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:50:29 -0600) References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D678@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is proper process for source installs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:01:00 -0000 Hi, > and so on. So it's safe to say just merging the trees like this > isn't the way to go. What is the proper process to finish a bsd > image after installworld and installkernel is done? Not sure what you are trying to do, but usually you better follow the instructions from /usr/src/UPDATING. By the way, I beleive a good part of /etc is installed/reinstalled by a make installworld and/or mergemaster. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 03:04:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C6E106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E4C8FC12 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E953A385E; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:04:07 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1260327847; x= 1262142247; bh=G+Wep+WUPwQ7uVMzMyVhOPVwEkPA19PICyRpt6JUEis=; b=o k6aLpV99P+ia/Joy+DuXNzptIva+3frzs0tWb6FcV2/b5N6IZu9ysFN4Jb8VQKRE t8HJT2SzwQjnzAgIp665PJ+dPQq6jFezwBoEqRaXR++AARB3w5+menFjCegEGB8V 8g5JUVcRdQ0ekVHV06aY2sWoABHaU4BYx3l55OqJ9I= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Cr0gh3oYHAcU; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:04:07 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E520D3A3853; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:04:06 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB9346VA083482; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:04:06 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:04:06 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912090304.nB9346VA083482@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: xkyanh@gmail.com In-reply-to: <20091209095737.63be955a@icy.localdomain> (xkyanh@gmail.com) References: <20091209095737.63be955a@icy.localdomain> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build a port that depends on Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:04:09 -0000 Hi, > Another problem is that the original file for port is in `.zip` > format. As far as I know `.zip` isn't natively supported in > FreeBSD. Should I convert that file to `.tar.gz` format and > redistribute in my site (instead of using file from VUE master > site?). Though using > "EXTRACT_DEPENDS=unzip:${PORTSDIR}/archivers/unzip" is possible I > think such usage is so expensive :) Unkless you are building some kind of embeded system where every byte on disk is important, just install unzip, it's harmless, and save you the burden to repackage the port every time they come up with a new version. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 03:11:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E04106566C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DC68FC18 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so3706fxm.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:11:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AMDephp8sWlWWEvqFN81uMNggD8IpS4TXMDELnOfC4c=; b=KdYKeJ9R562FYVETbt81BqyCMIVDjySWvNIHlYA1IUfGeo0Zwf6i1bY5TXy1G4/6Nn K7apoIoB++/Ow6PpgQsxWx+DntIM/0P0oz5kMWxvrX0vsiA/vy1oBEwmFA/3hYFybRAz p2ZCGSJjoXISNFBu30D0I8J2++61WUXFwms3A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=KsmDcvYlryEfQBCydJY1rJmhyt1X3GsFUmhhZY8QG6ZzIG/8+EZ8jlUfRaFhsl0R+M MrqzLPaJf9v2cUbraVArG4zusVnMk4vC84pruG3SlfIcr11L9mtHOAvz1pk78S9S8JcO u8bhyw3Je39WSAjPFtrU9Mjvog5/Ab1ROM/UQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.95.72 with SMTP id c8mr1316462fan.73.1260328302868; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:11:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200912090300.nB930sgQ083464@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D678@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <200912090300.nB930sgQ083464@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:11:42 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912081911o6dd6b279k115df7a912d7818b@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: psteele@maxiscale.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is proper process for source installs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:11:44 -0000 Hi, On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > >> and so on. So it's safe to say just merging the trees like this >> isn't the way to go. What is the proper process to finish a bsd >> image after installworld and installkernel is done? > > Not sure what you are trying to do, but usually you better follow the > instructions from /usr/src/UPDATING. > +1 > By the way, I beleive a good part of /etc is installed/reinstalled by a > make installworld and/or mergemaster. > Configuration files are untouched by 'installworld'. I've found on systems with major /etc/* changes, the following is the path of least resistance, quickest, and best at providing a "backup plan" before running mergemaster: # cd / # tar cvvf `hostname`.etcbak.tar etc # mv etc /somewhere/safe # mergemaster -iFUP You can also set IGNORE_FILES in /etc/mergemaster.rc. mergemaster(8) for more information on that. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 03:13:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7A01065672 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:13:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D562A8FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so4465fxm.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:13:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TFt+Vfz8IWIu0GGX708IlZEYbQAJ42aRm9kBsJ5t2Zs=; b=a67RrEkfjIiuovQF9jCKDHwOyj5NW/B+tIdzKtXyK8mqadlNeCPrKA2S5C13889dlT n6+uqKyAi1A88a4s6kNNYHdzNXTHfkUEfoWdvqP8lDDncM1cOSpUFkX6s8F7L/+nCz5y Yu9nv6sUOOMBbDewtaSRI7qUS0rcW//PDwCZc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SRUXEiZHCCAL01yv17kYkKLyQYIy630pv0OLKELOz+kjbtlHCU4y73XwBsSz9iznPT xDzY5uBRVgTN8oZ1Cln4EqDC3DVz1wfRUaPbuuWEYt38rJBPE+GuVFEKfIvixJ8BhlsW BBZ1ccsNhW/Fa/SweY46zZt0wrCJsnHh6iCr0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.74.144 with SMTP id u16mr1477525faj.21.1260328418896; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:13:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310912081911o6dd6b279k115df7a912d7818b@mail.gmail.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D678@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <200912090300.nB930sgQ083464@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4ad871310912081911o6dd6b279k115df7a912d7818b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:13:38 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912081913o21fb951btd69e1f157bb92d57@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th, psteele@maxiscale.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is proper process for source installs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:13:40 -0000 Ugh, I hate simple typos... On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Glen Barber wrot= e: > =A0 # mv etc /somewhere/safe Should be: # mv `hostname`.etcbak.tar /somewhere/safe --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 03:44:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F109E106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4D08FC14 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 03:44:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 15962644; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:44:38 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:44:40 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: Glen Barber , Olivier Nicole Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:44:33 -0600 Thread-Topic: What is proper process for source installs? Thread-Index: Acp4fVYRxyYqKUBOQlS9w4uG9NeVTAAA9q8Q Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D685@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D678@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <200912090300.nB930sgQ083464@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4ad871310912081911o6dd6b279k115df7a912d7818b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310912081911o6dd6b279k115df7a912d7818b@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: BHNS B1AL CCZQ EElZ HaC4 JMhZ Kebb NDL2 Rfck SMP6 Upel WofG btIG f0mq hnaW i9xr; 3; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnADsAZwBsAGUAbgAuAGoALgBiAGEAcgBiAGUAcgBAAGcAbQBhAGkAbAAuAGMAbwBtADsAbwBsAGkAdgBpAGUAcgAuAG4AaQBjAG8AbABlAEAAYwBzAC4AYQBpAHQALgBhAGMALgB0AGgA; Sosha1_v1; 7; {F35D74EC-7BE1-442E-B922-27F0E0FE4DB7}; cABzAHQAZQBlAGwAZQBAAG0AYQB4AGkAcwBjAGEAbABlAC4AYwBvAG0A; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:44:33 GMT; UgBFADoAIABXAGgAYQB0ACAAaQBzACAAcAByAG8AcABlAHIAIABwAHIAbwBjAGUAcwBzACAAZgBvAHIAIABzAG8AdQByAGMAZQAgAGkAbgBzAHQAYQBsAGwAcwA/AA== x-cr-puzzleid: {F35D74EC-7BE1-442E-B922-27F0E0FE4DB7} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: What is proper process for source installs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:44:42 -0000 > By the way, I beleive a good part of /etc is installed/reinstalled by=20 > a make installworld and/or mergemaster. I should have clarified my scenario better. I am building a BSD image from = scratch, as part of an automated process. I am not updating an existing sys= tem. I had been doing this by installing the base collection, plus our cust= om kernel (as well as man pages and various packages). Now that we are also= building "world", I don't need to install the base collection from the bin= ary release. At least not everything in it. What *do* I need? Obviously etc= and the copyright notice. Anything else? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 04:01:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E56C1065676 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 04:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936C78FC18 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 04:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so22160fxm.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:01:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PlQbYx8xgAHtutHAxdjoJAkNQ3/eOlOcZgD9zS2jX5c=; b=m668El9MF45GNcnt54pO998bhwDBNwlnRTBTo84TAgJkx9oNCjduS138yKsS/fZTYM SRmNeL9fMMCgdnWcvW5FjC07PBmhKd5c5wDXp3FZccunm6m6/YjrOzxu6kIHeoacOYRp QMUwZX14MK7h1oCb7Rj5lo5sW6g+KHius2CMo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hWtZ55IVB/w5Ta7xNL524NTAGsl+S1GuFKs0KNrBk29y0C7elMRgaKP6vrYEgYEyKX U9OYeqla9zRfwQSRWmvS01siEvomqqFRgRGjouF1sShmQiP9WtSU7pEgiHa8rA2Gs5Lx tE5jzTHEBguA9adMQPa4hvsAA9gdMlWK44vbk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.75.136 with SMTP id y8mr1396139faj.69.1260331316125; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:01:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D685@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D678@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <200912090300.nB930sgQ083464@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4ad871310912081911o6dd6b279k115df7a912d7818b@mail.gmail.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D685@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:01:56 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912082001l38d05e22u4209609fb6c85317@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Peter Steele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Olivier Nicole , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: What is proper process for source installs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:01:58 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Peter Steele wrote= : >> By the way, I beleive a good part of /etc is installed/reinstalled by >> a make installworld and/or mergemaster. > > I should have clarified my scenario better. I am building a BSD image fro= m scratch, as part of an automated process. I am not updating an existing s= ystem. I had been doing this by installing the base collection, plus our cu= stom kernel (as well as man pages and various packages). Now that we are al= so building "world", I don't need to install the base collection from the b= inary release. At least not everything in it. What *do* I need? Obviously e= tc and the copyright notice. Anything else? > > Ah, you _probably_ want to do 'make release' -- I have no experience with this however to be much more help if that _is_ what you need. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 04:03:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56A6106568F; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 04:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from EXHUB015-3.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-3.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEB48FC1D; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 04:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from philip.hq.rws (174.79.184.239) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:03:18 -0800 Message-ID: <4B1F2184.2060504@p6m7g8.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 04:03:16 +0000 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: P6M7G8 Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091208) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Noland References: <4B13719A.4090505@p6m7g8.com> <1259596638.2315.186.camel@balrog.2hip.net> In-Reply-To: <1259596638.2315.186.camel@balrog.2hip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: infrastructure-private@apache.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ZFSROOT / Custom Kernels [or upgrades] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:03:18 -0000 Robert Noland wrote: > It sounds like when you install the new kernel, the block numbers are > overflowing. (which should be addressed by the fix in 8.0) No idea what the issue is/was. I've now seen the following which is what I expected -- base/head: tb.p6m7g8.net, works base/stable/8: tb.apache.org, works [>= r200287] anything after the MFC should be the same base/releng/8.0: desktop at $work, works UNTIL I try to reinstall any kernel GENERIC or custom. At any rate, I'm content to run stable/8 after that MFC and wait for 8.1-release. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1024D/DB9B8C1C B90B FBC3 A3A1 C71A 8E70 3F8C 75B8 8FFB DB9B 8C1C Philip M. Gollucci (pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) c: 703.336.9354 VP Apache Infrastructure; Member, Apache Software Foundation Committer, FreeBSD Foundation Consultant, P6M7G8 Inc. Sr. System Admin, Ridecharge Inc. Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 04:21:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0168E1065672 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 04:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC74B8FC13 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 04:21:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 19182937 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:21:40 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:21:36 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:21:34 -0600 Thread-Topic: What is proper process for source installs? Thread-Index: Acp4hFoCrWImzgNmSM+Q+b/5s7NhCAAAqZOw Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D68B@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D678@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <200912090300.nB930sgQ083464@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4ad871310912081911o6dd6b279k115df7a912d7818b@mail.gmail.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D685@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <4ad871310912082001l38d05e22u4209609fb6c85317@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310912082001l38d05e22u4209609fb6c85317@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: What is proper process for source installs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:21:38 -0000 >Ah, you _probably_ want to do 'make release' -- I have no experience with = this however to be much more help if that _is_ what you need. Didn't know about that one. I'll have to check it out--thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 04:30:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DFF106568B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 04:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walt@wump.org) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1F98FC12 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 04:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091209043001.LYVW21519.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:30:01 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.10] ([68.116.98.9]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id EsVs1d00s0C8vLc05sVx06; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:29:58 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IEzkpb3eey8A:10 a=ebNzH6DdAAAA:8 a=-nVpy3_U_pCjC-fPNKgA:9 a=QTK12RxhvwtNf9bKSCPPKGmk6v0A:4 a=Z-IikAJXHoYA:10 a=zbkDLoAsQ4cA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D4C8@MBX03.exg5.exghost.c om> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D44A@MBX03.exg5.exghost.c om> <20091208195424.850e8363.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D498@MBX03.exg5.exghost.c om> <20091208202749.d3f3b697.freebsd@edvax.de> <6201873e0912081138p906fa7bxb7ea5223542e67ff@mail.gmail.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D4C8@MBX03.exg5.exghost.c om> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:29:46 -0800 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Walt Pawley Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:30:03 -0000 >>b) go with gpt / gpart, which is okay if FreeBSD will >> be the only OS that accesses the disk(s) in question, >> as I may assume by your statements. >That's correct; these will be strictly BSD accessible drives. FWIW: I've used GUID drives with Mac OS X, Windows XP, Ubuntu and PC-BSD all resident in their own GUID partitions. Haven't had 11TB to try, however. ;-) -- Walter M. Pawley Wump Research & Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97471 541-672-8975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 05:00:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC2C106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-10.bnguk.net (atmail-10.bnguk.net [80.74.253.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7C58FC13 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-10.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NIEfD-0003GI-O4; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:00:35 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0DC694AC1B; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:00:34 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:00:34 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: "Anh K. Hu???nh" Message-ID: <20091209050034.GA53937@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "Anh K. Hu???nh" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091209095737.63be955a@icy.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091209095737.63be955a@icy.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build a port that depends on Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:00:49 -0000 On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 09:57:37AM +0700, Anh K. Hu???nh wrote: > > Hi, > > I am going to build a port (named `vue`, http://vue.tufts.edu/) that > depends on Java libraries but I don't know how to set the > dependencies (the RUN_DEPENDS variable in `Makefile`). I know some > kinds of Java and don't know which one should be used. At least, Vue > works well with OpenJDK6. You want to have a look at the Makefiles of other programs that use java. E.g azureus $ less /usr/ports/net-p2p/azureus/Makefile > > Another problem is that the original file for port is in `.zip` > format. As far as I know `.zip` isn't natively supported in FreeBSD. > Should I convert that file to `.tar.gz` format and redistribute in > my site (instead of using file from VUE master site?). Though using > "EXTRACT_DEPENDS=unzip:${PORTSDIR}/archivers/unzip" is possible I > think such usage is so expensive :) I think that you use: USE_ZIP= yes It's mentioned in the porter's handbook which you should read. You can also find out by looking at a Makefile again E.g print/cm-super The porter's handbook tells you how to go about writing a Makefile. Any questions you may have about porting software should be addressed to ports@, IIRC. Porters Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ > > Thank you for your helps, > > Regards, Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 05:16:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995C8106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:16:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544818FC17 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3333C7D1 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:16:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nB95Gmae004795 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:16:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:16:47 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20091209061647.d3253dd2.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Override overrides of X resources by various programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:16:52 -0000 Dear list, more and more annoying things are happening. Programs modify X defaults in an unacceptable manner. For example, the Acrobat Reader (e. g. acroread8 port) displays an ugly white mouse pointer where the normal black pointer should be. The same does Opera (e. g. opera-9.63 port) when doing some work; the mouse pointer gets a white shape again and is accompanied by an old fashioned hourglass. And Gimp is an example, too, allthough I can understand this behaviour when the mouse pointer should get the shape of a certain tool (e. g. fill tool), but it shouldn't change the setting just for simple things like the rectangular selection tool - white mouse cursor with a symbolized selection rectangle (which could be an addition to the standard cursor). My question: Is there any way to prohibit such modifications of resources, or do I have to live with this inconsistency? It worked in the past, why can't it work today? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 05:59:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D952106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalpin@muliahost.com) Received: from genesis.muliahost.com (genesis.muliahost.com [202.67.13.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD928FC19 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:59:08 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=muliahost.com; h=Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:Importance; b=n/OAI8SDfx4cvOWBtQxsHCZOW8wS+y4KnB7dZsO2eA30GjuA09wLnT55YYAVMeogpna7R/JKsVMh7M79TjnoGHa/U5m7Caj1cDIl/lAfGPqIewOisSVkxv7U7iD9k0zF; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=muliahost.com) by genesis.muliahost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NIFZp-0006BS-7O; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:59:05 +0700 Received: from 203.153.106.5 ([203.153.106.5]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalpin@muliahost.com) by muliahost.com with HTTP; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:59:05 +0700 (WIT) Message-ID: <2842.203.153.106.5.1260338345.squirrel@muliahost.com> In-Reply-To: References: <2043.203.153.106.5.1259577899.squirrel@muliahost.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:59:05 +0700 (WIT) From: kalpin@muliahost.com To: "krad" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - genesis.muliahost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - muliahost.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org, kalpin@muliahost.com Subject: Re: Transparent proxy using IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:59:09 -0000 Hello, > 2009/11/30 > >> Dear All, >> >> Is it possible to do like my requirement below? >> >> 1. Setup portfwd in my server listen on port 555 and forward all >> connection through this port to another server with same port or >> different >> port >> 2. All client which connected through this port, then remote server >> which >> landed to the end can see the client's IP. >> >> example: >> >> Client IP: 202.15.15.16 >> FreeBSD IP: 202.16.17.18 listen on port 555 >> Remote Server IP: 202.89.89.90 >> >> Client IP connect to 202.16.17.18 on port 555, and then FreeBSD forward >> it >> to 202.89.89.90 with same port or different port. Server with IP >> 202.89.89.90 can see Client's IP 202.15.15.16. >> >> I am using FreeBSD 7.2-stable. >> >> Thank you >> >> Kalpin Erlangga Silaen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > you can but you will need to do some natting otherwise the return traffic > will go direct to host a from c and not via your box host b > > or you could use nc via inetd > > eg > > some_service stream tcp nowait root > /usr/local/bin/nc nc -n -w 3 hostC port_on_hostc > _______________________________________________ I tried install rinetd, but it looks the IP come from the server not client's ip. Also, I tried portfwd and portfwd need transparent proxy in kernel. How do I enable this? Need your advice. Regards, Kalpin Erlangga Silaen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 06:09:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301161065670 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:09:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f190.google.com (mail-px0-f190.google.com [209.85.216.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10448FC17 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi28 with SMTP id 28so1762983pxi.7 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:09:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-operating-system :x-mailer:user-agent:x-face:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1KwJL0joyuXncZV3pszZ2YYgM1jZPRRDIqcQ/pRANsM=; b=C4wasa5TTWPLL6qQbkh2ajkPc1zEuYnHMr9XiGNAWuyh1A5TErWonkic7NKOzI0ufg QB0LhaEST7+7UGTA2bfG8KJlLGmObJaO05PUD02yc6sEuCaRomD2wlnpEllj7oHNeuZP thZuPta167Tq0nVjltUd7z3LUCjbUp5pNf4Wg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-operating-system:x-mailer:user-agent:x-face:face:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I1OWMfM11t4hSF4bNXA+byHj/gUd774NFHwHCjZleiZxdOwYy/URNdz/74txrKzN+3 QPxpeMrbgG9J+0sqLtLsc6rSoROOePp7/wrNlvdj9BZ9bJtsyWS4xAOTjuRJ7IP1Vlof wczh4N91Lbki9+sR28wtL4dDhoT3TCy9gGP6I= Received: by 10.114.214.22 with SMTP id m22mr17519955wag.218.1260338950412; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from icy.localdomain ([118.69.224.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm6639976pzk.13.2009.12.08.22.09.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:09:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:08:19 +0700 From: "Anh Ky Huynh" Message-ID: <20091209130819.1176da0f@icy.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20091209050034.GA53937@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20091209095737.63be955a@icy.localdomain> <20091209050034.GA53937@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) User-Agent: Moveup mail on Windows 98 X-Face: no-face Face: no-face Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build a port that depends on Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:09:11 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:00:34 +0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 09:57:37AM +0700, Anh K. Hu???nh wrote: > > > > I am going to build a port (named `vue`, http://vue.tufts.edu/) > > that depends on Java libraries but I don't know how to set the > > dependencies (the RUN_DEPENDS variable in `Makefile`). I know some > > kinds of Java and don't know which one should be used. At least, > > Vue works well with OpenJDK6. > > You want to have a look at the Makefiles of other programs that use > java. E.g azureus > > $ less /usr/ports/net-p2p/azureus/Makefile Thank you. azureus' Makefile is very comprehensive. > > site?). Though using > > "EXTRACT_DEPENDS=unzip:${PORTSDIR}/archivers/unzip" is possible I > > think such usage is so expensive :) > > I think that you use: > > USE_ZIP= yes > > It's mentioned in the porter's handbook which you should read. You > can also find out by looking at a Makefile again E.g print/cm-super I've just seen that and some other USER_* in handbook :) > The porter's handbook tells you how to go about writing a Makefile. > Any questions you may have about porting software should be > addressed to ports@, IIRC. > > Porters Handbook: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ > I've registered at ports@. I'm sorry for my noise here. Regards, -- Anh Ky Huynh - TeX: http://viettug.org/ - BSD: http://lovebsd.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 06:11:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE821065679 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:11:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lsantagostini@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93EB8FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so4394166iwn.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:11:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=feOqafhNHPlaVwt2ucbQlIuqX5rjgLB9k5xehPPy77o=; b=JMH8v+VOn6MpmI/nzAWzi/IyqfLB7w2WeHm6uFAI1iuSIu7/7pzLcihPhJicWCEk4S 6hueOx17LYO7XuVVOAW4xegaltriYNI9NoBhF0BvaDsP9pV11pnMlntUENyijfsDn6xH WIj1woSzWK8l5mVSTUPJUpafpJTR6hs0wP/2E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mkgYNXRxnZREzkuSaZ6AUMRF/qbTs4hr9xUEfg56OV0xy7AmEuUs6nnOe9jWBYkSwR Mch7FVScuc2g0aYrA7PpMLSKMjyFh/9x9z9eeEeR+0LQ1+9SdoSdz6wabTndW+6L/5UR BxdlEV0/+wKkmhBxdjrPH1x0tAxRJTH8bW2vU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.182.130 with SMTP id a44mr569871iba.18.1260337717474; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:48:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:48:37 +0000 Message-ID: <9ab7eeeb0912082148t3354c2cfj1f079279337e2c3c@mail.gmail.com> From: Leonardo Santagostini To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Ibm Db2 for Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:11:40 -0000 People i want to know if some has listen about porting or developing or doing something about DB2 for FreeBSD I saw in an old post that Matt Emmerson wrote: DB2 on Linux makes extensive use of Linux-isms which FreeBSD does not reproduce, mostly due to kernel differences but also due to issues in the linuxulator. In the past, I've found differences with stat, memory allocation and AIO features which cripple DB2 to the point of not starting up or running properly. If anyone wants work to resolve these issues, please contact me off-list. I have access to the information that we'd need to get this working. -- Matt Emmerton I offer my effort to doing it, someone more ? 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(173-16-22-10.client.mchsi.com [173.16.22.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm4684902iwn.0.2009.12.08.23.31.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:31:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: 23 23 <232747@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B1F5263.1060907@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:31:47 -0600 From: "Corey J. Bukolt" <0.23@mail.ru> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091024) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Temporarily halt boot process to enter encryption keys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:53:34 -0000 Hello list, I have a FreeNAS box with a CF card for root, and 3 drives (soon to be 4) set up with encryption and raidz on top of them. A less than excellent detailed report of what I did is here: http://bit.ly/5BeZq8 This setup is a bit hackish as after the system boots I need to attach each drive using geli, run "zpool import -f primary", and then restart all my services (nfs, samba, etc). It's become a bit of a chore (especially when doing it all from a N810), so I'm looking for a way to temporary halt the boot process so that I can ssh in, attach the drives, and then allow the system to continue to boot. A few ideas come to mind, such as meddling with rc scripts, but I'd like to get some suggestions from the more experienced FreeBSD hackers before I go off breaking my system. Thanks, ~Corey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 08:07:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E0A1065692 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:07:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D7C8FC16 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NIHaW-000274-R4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:07:56 -0800 Message-ID: <26706523.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:07:56 -0800 (PST) From: Ivo Karabojkov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091208232158.f532a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: ivo@kit-bg.com References: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> <26679927.post@talk.nabble.com> <20091208095732.GA64581@ei.bzerk.org> <26701709.post@talk.nabble.com> <20091208232158.f532a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:07:57 -0000 As I guessed, I am using standard, not DD mode. Despite of this I was unable to boot, and even more: FreeBSD 8.0 sysinstall did not find any partitions neither on the (g)mirror, hardware RAID I described above or any individual disks part of the RAID. I had to use FreeBSD 7.2 livefs to copy my data after I formatted one of the disks with new 8.0 sysinstall. I think this makes our problem totally unexplained. As an example I'll show you my "unable to boot system with gmirror" fstab: # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/mirror/gm0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/mirror/gm0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /var ufs rw,acls 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Something I've noticed: when formatting an entire disk with sysinstall prior 7.0 its partition looks like this: Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 781417602 781417664 ad4s1 8 freebsd 165 781417665 2990 781420654 - 12 unused 0 When formatted with later versions of sysinstall it looks like this: Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 625142385 625142447 ad4s1 8 freebsd 165 I notice that the free part at the end is missing. My "hardware" raid, described above in this thread, stores its metadata in the beginning of the disk. Writes in the first sectors result in mirror break and the error I wrote already. I know all of this because I did a lot of tests to help all of you to find our problem out. I have to say that my problems occured with system initially installed with FreeBSD 5 or 6. One system with single drive installed with 7.2 (second example) upgraded with no problems. I hope my tests will help to find out what happens wit our older "disklabelled" systems. Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:09:16 -0800 (PST), Ivo Karabojkov > wrote: >> So I'd like to know how >> to distinguish mode of my current filesystems - is it standard or >> dangerously dedicated? > > If you've first created a slice on the disk, and then > partitions inside the slice, it's standard mode, e. g. > > ad0 a b d e f g > { [ (/) (swap) (/tmp) (/var) (/usr) (/home) ] } > s1 > > If you've omitted the slice, and created the partitions > on the disk device itself, it's dangerosly dedicated mode, e. g. > > ad0 > { (/) (swap) (/tmp) (/var) (/usr) (/home) } > a b d e f g > > You can tell by the existence of ad0s1[adefg] vs. ad0[adefg] > in /dev, or by trying to print the disks's slice table. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/won%27t-boot-after-8.0-RELEASE-upgrade-tp26628661p26706523.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 08:22:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1484D106568D for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B418FC08 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so5057153bwz.3 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:22:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=E51rzyU7lNg9WUT2iPSqgHmQUKNWSy6/W3wVIs0tnLM=; b=wrQJknAGkovJhkzzVlIaC2kpJ3yRsWx9oXbbz5ZdoF8uG7tNp5DVvZ4d6xAcwT9OLX 0STBqD9Cd9Yai+3+qycq4Rf5Y99YEviNkMntPY5Py+6IA+BH3xwG8UaOuJc3D2M272gh npjZZ7ys9UAH+bO9Zbe1hBfiQOSfQON60Rvn4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wgpv8g7/vCUfh1kNm1veZXKzu/r3SRh8JaFb9p8LE460t7fKL3M8+2gnSvPn8NUnip ubus8doWeasBLfwOE+3XuLqlU95pQhZGsXrYmcH9hxDQL/AAXz4PEVTCiOcJ2AFp8+Rp MmehAT+1CorItrLl+cwiuxFlracYHmR9XhIoQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.150.76 with SMTP id x12mr6115486bkv.30.1260346929058; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:22:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:22:09 +0100 Message-ID: From: usleepless@gmail.com To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chomium on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:22:11 -0000 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Is there an effort to build a port of chromium for FreeBSD? I recently > began using chromium on my Linux machine, and the HTML rendering speed > is quite impressive. > > When it has the ability to synchronize bookmarks, I'll use it exclusively. > I have been running it for weeks now. Google it, some guy compiled it and offers a package. regards, usleep > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 08:47:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690231065672 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.vub.ac.be (mxin.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068D08FC14 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:47:25 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhsCAFPrHkukD30E/2dsb2JhbAAIhB6HE41MrVyGWYlgg1lTBA Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.vub.ac.be with ESMTP; 09 Dec 2009 09:47:25 +0100 Message-ID: <4B1F5762.5010407@ulb.ac.be> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:53:06 +0100 From: Julien Cigar Organization: Belgian Biodiversity Platform User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020700020907030708090106" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Intel SRCZCR ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:47:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020700020907030708090106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, At work we've a machine which is currently running FreeBSD 7.0 and we would like to upgrade to 7.2 This machine has an esoteric embedded RAID controller, the "Intel SRCZCR RAID adapter". When I installed the machine one year ago I read the RELEASE Hardware Notes to check whether this chipset was supported or not. I didn't found any references, but I came across http://www.krellis.org/unix-stuff/srczcr-freebsd-howto.html and read that if was in fact supported by the iir(4) driver. Although I had a panic with the GENERIC kernel (see kern/122067), it works like a charm for more than one year now. Do you know if this card is still supported by the iir(4) driver (or other) in the 7.2-RELEASE ? Thanks, Julien (apologies for cross posting for those who're on freebsd-scsi) -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --------------020700020907030708090106-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 10:19:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFEC1065670 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF6D8FC12 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NIJe9-0007To-Nn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:19:49 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:19:49 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:19:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:19:09 +0100 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <4B1F5762.5010407@ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090928) In-Reply-To: <4B1F5762.5010407@ulb.ac.be> Sender: news Subject: Re: Intel SRCZCR ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:19:52 -0000 Julien Cigar wrote: > Hello, > > At work we've a machine which is currently running FreeBSD 7.0 and we > would like to upgrade to 7.2 > > This machine has an esoteric embedded RAID controller, the "Intel SRCZCR > RAID adapter". > > When I installed the machine one year ago I read the RELEASE Hardware > Notes to check whether this chipset was supported or not. I didn't found > any references, but I came across > http://www.krellis.org/unix-stuff/srczcr-freebsd-howto.html and read > that if was in fact supported by the iir(4) driver. Although I had a > panic with the GENERIC kernel (see kern/122067), it works like a charm > for more than one year now. > > Do you know if this card is still supported by the iir(4) driver (or > other) in the 7.2-RELEASE ? > It is extremely unlikely that a single device support would have been removed within a single major branch like 7.x. It has never happened before. If it works for you in 7.0 it will continue to do so at least as good in 7.2. But there is a tiny possibility, with esoteric hardware, that a bug that was not fatal in a previous version becomes fatal in the new one. This is very rare but if you are very concerned you can check this by downloading a live cd (e.g. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/7.2/7.2-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso), booting it and testing a little. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 14:00:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13862106568F for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAAF8FC1C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NIN5V-0006vV-8d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:00:17 -0800 Message-ID: <26710655.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:00:17 -0800 (PST) From: regis505 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: regis505@gmail.com Subject: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:00:18 -0000 What are the meaning of the messages below when I boot 8.0-RELEASE-p1 and how can I prevent that? GEOM: ad6s1: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s). ... GEOM: ad6s2: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s). GEOM: ufsid/478e98a7fe5111d0: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s). GEOM: ufsid/479a0892240b3994: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s). # fdisk -s /dev/ad4: 484406 cyl 16 hd 63 sec Part Start Size Type Flags 1: 63 488281185 0xa5 0x80 # disklabel ad4s1 # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 4194304 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 b: 8388608 4194304 swap c: 488281185 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 41943040 12582912 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 e: 41943040 54525952 4.2BSD 0 0 0 f: 67108864 96468992 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 g: 324703329 163577856 4.2BSD 0 0 0 -reg -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/geometry-does-not-match-label-%28255h%2C63s-%21%3D-16h%2C63s%29-tp26710655p26710655.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 14:28:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B947106566C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd_bronson@sbcglobal.net) Received: from cheyenne.hanadarko.com (75-9-98-151.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net [75.9.98.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D8C8FC17 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cheyenne.hanadarko.com [10.43.82.2]) by cheyenne.hanadarko.com (8.14.4.Beta0/8.14.4.Beta0) with ESMTP id nB9E4XfB003522; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:04:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4B1FAE73.9010208@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:04:35 -0600 From: "J.D. Bronson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091130 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: regis505 References: <26710655.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <26710655.post@talk.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:28:59 -0000 I see this too. I even went so far as to edit the labels and start again and then I got the opposite: geometry does not match label (16h,63s != 255h,63s) ..so I gave up. Google didnt turn anything up but I dont see this on FreeBSD 7.x at all. Only 8 So far, it has not been any issue from what I can tell and only apparent (for me) when gmirror is setup. -- J.D. Bronson Information Technology From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 15:56:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A64106568D for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from archon@silvertree.org) Received: from arthur.silvertree.org (arthur.silvertree.org [173.11.101.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 426D28FC19 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12396 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2009 07:56:07 -0800 Received: from webn1.ofoto.com (HELO ?192.168.62.44?) (66.128.224.196) by arthur.silvertree.org with SMTP; 9 Dec 2009 07:56:07 -0800 From: Scott Schappell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:56:06 -0800 Message-Id: <0FBEBD48-9455-4202-9410-91FC3117406B@silvertree.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: idled not disconnecting idle users on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:56:08 -0000 I liked using idled on 4.11 to kick off idle users as it allowed me to = specify which users can stay connected indefinitely, whereas sshd_config = options ClientAliveCountMax 0 and ClientAliveInterval 60 would kick = everyone off after an hour. I do have a couple of users that have a = legitimate need to keep their SSH tunnel open as long as they need it. However, on 7.2 idled logs that it's disconnecting a user for idle, but = it doesn't actually happen. Is there a kernel parameter or something = other than idled that does the same thing (namely excluding users or = groups from being idled disconnected)? Thanks! Scott= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 17:14:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80F51065672 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2298FC17 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEB44A3F4FC; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:13:40 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:13:40 -0800 From: Jason To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20091209171340.GJ87722@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D678@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <200912090300.nB930sgQ083464@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4ad871310912081911o6dd6b279k115df7a912d7818b@mail.gmail.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D685@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <4ad871310912082001l38d05e22u4209609fb6c85317@mail.gmail.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D68B@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D68B@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: What is proper process for source installs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:14:52 -0000 On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 10:21:34PM -0600, Peter Steele thus spake: >>Ah, you _probably_ want to do 'make release' -- I have no experience with this however to be much more help if that _is_ what you need. > >Didn't know about that one. I'll have to check it out--thanks. I started out doing this a couple of months ago, and the project has been a wealth of experience and knowledge, to say the least. Once you are able to do manage building a release, you can actually build your own update server and distribute binary updates on your custom kernel. :) -jgh > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 17:57:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9F7106568B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B908FC19 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BCEEB472E; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:57:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EB645303; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:57:03 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7bZyiuczxtzC; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:57:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-224-63.home.otenet.gr [94.64.224.63]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2243451B2; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:57:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB9Hv1hO028337 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:57:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB9Hv08b028334; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:57:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Robert Huff References: <19230.36867.142189.339269@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <87my1t2m2p.fsf@kobe.laptop> <19230.57463.718813.429728@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:57:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <19230.57463.718813.429728@jerusalem.litteratus.org> (Robert Huff's message of "Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:25:43 -0500") Message-ID: <87tyw0jaj7.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-problem starting sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:57:04 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:25:43 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > I just generated new keys using the method specified the the article > recommended by Giorgos, and I get the same result. Oops. I was hoping that would help, but it was only a wild guess by looking at the error message and the Google hits I could find for related threads. As Chuck wrote, the error is coming from the TLS support code. Can you try the openssl commands he mentioned? Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:33:07 +0200 From: Chuck Swiger Subject: Re: semi-problem starting sendmail Message-id: Well, the error is coming from /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/src/tls.c, and depends on openssl to deal with your cert. Does: openssl verify -verbose /etc/mail/CA/private/cakey.pem ...say anything interesting? What about: openssl x509 -in /etc/mail/CA/private/cakey.pem -text From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 18:45:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09BB106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967978FC13 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:45:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 19265279; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:44:58 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:45:00 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: Bernt Hansson , "J.D. Bronson" Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:44:58 -0600 Thread-Topic: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s) Thread-Index: Acp4/PYv9J5pTihFQxKJhELXf/+O0wAAqswA Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D87E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <26710655.post@talk.nabble.com> <4B1FAE73.9010208@sbcglobal.net> <4B1FEB58.1050408@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <4B1FEB58.1050408@bah.homeip.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , regis505 Subject: RE: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:45:01 -0000 Add my name to the list--we get tons of these messages since upgrading to 8= .0.... -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Bernt Hansson Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:24 AM To: J.D. Bronson Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; regis505 Subject: Re: geometry does not match label (255h,63s !=3D 16h,63s) J.D. Bronson: > I see this too. I even went so far as to edit the labels and start=20 > again and then I got the opposite: I see that too on 8.0 > geometry does not match label (16h,63s !=3D 255h,63s) >=20 > ..so I gave up. Google didnt turn anything up but I dont see this on=20 > FreeBSD 7.x at all. Only 8 Same here. > So far, it has not been any issue from what I can tell and only=20 > apparent (for me) when gmirror is setup. I don't use gmirror or any sort of raid. GEOM: ad0s2: geometry does not match label (255h,63s !=3D 16h,63s). GEOM: ad4s3: geometry does not match label (255h,63s !=3D 16h,63s). _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman= /listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 18:49:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BFA1065670 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302A58FC17 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:49:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 19266216 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:49:55 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:49:55 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:49:53 -0600 Thread-Topic: What is proper process for source installs? Thread-Index: Acp48yQ1rKcJSNVyQ+28Ulb2UiAVzwADLe/A Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D885@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D678@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <200912090300.nB930sgQ083464@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4ad871310912081911o6dd6b279k115df7a912d7818b@mail.gmail.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D685@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <4ad871310912082001l38d05e22u4209609fb6c85317@mail.gmail.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D68B@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091209171340.GJ87722@eggman.experts-exchange.com> In-Reply-To: <20091209171340.GJ87722@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AQrJ AzHX BAGN BJ4a BMJx BVKo BXs+ BcID DMcV DjUR GUHi H0zt IeyT IkC5 JJoN Je5b; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {085A4D1F-1F8C-4A63-9A57-E5C4067B6FD8}; cABzAHQAZQBlAGwAZQBAAG0AYQB4AGkAcwBjAGEAbABlAC4AYwBvAG0A; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:49:53 GMT; UgBFADoAIABXAGgAYQB0ACAAaQBzACAAcAByAG8AcABlAHIAIABwAHIAbwBjAGUAcwBzACAAZgBvAHIAIABzAG8AdQByAGMAZQAgAGkAbgBzAHQAYQBsAGwAcwA/AA== x-cr-puzzleid: {085A4D1F-1F8C-4A63-9A57-E5C4067B6FD8} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: What is proper process for source installs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:49:56 -0000 >I started out doing this a couple of months ago, and the project has been = a wealth of experience and knowledge, to say the least. > >Once you are able to do manage building a release, you can actually build = your own update server and distribute binary updates on your custom kernel. Hmm, interesting. We'll have numerous customers in the field running our cu= stom BSD image. We have a plan in place on how to distribute updates, but n= ot through this concept of an update server. Might be worth checking it out= . Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 18:52:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64631106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd_bronson@sbcglobal.net) Received: from cheyenne.hanadarko.com (75-9-98-151.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net [75.9.98.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7988FC0C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cheyenne.hanadarko.com [10.43.82.2]) by cheyenne.hanadarko.com (8.14.4.Beta0/8.14.4.Beta0) with ESMTP id nB9IqvC5004344 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:52:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4B1FF20B.7060503@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:52:59 -0600 From: "J.D. Bronson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091130 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <26710655.post@talk.nabble.com> <4B1FAE73.9010208@sbcglobal.net> <4B1FEB58.1050408@bah.homeip.net> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D87E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D87E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:52:59 -0000 What if we tried a custom kernel and removed these lines: options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization I think that might remove these 'errors'. -- J.D. Bronson Information Technology From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 18:53:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB811065676 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC078FC13 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:53:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so5581538bwz.3 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:53:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.2.73 with SMTP id 9mr268626bki.159.1260384829350; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:53:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:53:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: Joey Mingrone To: Tim Judd , Tom Worster Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fixit and gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:53:51 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 21:40, Tim Judd wrote: > Because the livefs uses a MFSROOT system (allows you to make changes > to the ram-based disk image after boot), you have to load kernel > modules before the mfsroot is mounted. =C2=A0As an example.. > > boot cd > escape to loader prompt > load /boot/kernel/geom_mirror.ko > load /boot/kernel/smbfs.ko (if needed, i had to load two modules the > time i had to use it) > boot Thanks guys. Tim, that did the trick. I followed that sequence with the livefs cd, then= did: # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1a /temp/; mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1f /temp/tempusr/ and copied /temp/tempusr/boot to /temp/ (minus kernel.old so it would fit) and the system boots again. > And I would like to note.. =C2=A0raid0 is striping, gstripe. =C2=A0raid1 = is > mirroring. =C2=A0I find it hard to recognize raid0 as your boot device. Right. It is raid1. Cheers, Joey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 18:59:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042311065672 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A6F8FC0C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:59:52 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KUE00GHGFFR8440@asmtp024.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:59:52 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D87E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:59:51 -0800 Message-id: <159BAE4B-6BF2-4696-AF66-93A58E42D7CD@mac.com> References: <26710655.post@talk.nabble.com> <4B1FAE73.9010208@sbcglobal.net> <4B1FEB58.1050408@bah.homeip.net> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D87E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> To: Peter Steele X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: regis505 , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "J.D. Bronson" , Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:59:53 -0000 Hi-- On Dec 9, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Peter Steele wrote: > Add my name to the list--we get tons of these messages since upgrading to 8.0.... This isn't new with 8.x; it's been around since 4.0, if not earlier. For a long time, BIOSes using the older C/H/S addressing mechanism were limited to ~8GB in size, and prior to LBA 48-bit addressing there was a ~130GB size limit. So long as the system is seeing the proper size of the drive, you can safely ignore the messages; if the drive size is not being detected properly, make sure your BIOS is updated, is set to look at drives using LBA mode (rather than C/H/S), and make sure the drive itself doesn't have a jumper limiting it to legacy addressing mode. Most of the time, "you can safely ignore the message" applies and one can ignore the rest the above. :-) Regards, -- -Chuck PS: Now, if 8.x is repeatedly logging these messages, that might be new behavior and worth adjusting. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 19:17:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BA2106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (pencil.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029F18FC1A for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB9JHjCU041390; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:17:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB9JHiOJ041389; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:17:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rich) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:17:44 -0600 From: Rich Winkel To: chris@officialunix.com Message-ID: <20091209191744.GZ10511@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Rich Winkel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: hplip 3.9.8 on fbsd 7.1 with HP LJ P2035 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:17:47 -0000 Hi, I can't seem to get it to probe the printer. hp-setup says: error: No devices found. error: Error occured during interactive mode. Exiting. dmesg|grep HP says: ugen0: on uhub0 The http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_p2035.html page says a plugin is required, but no info on how to get that plugin. Help!! Thanks, Rich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 19:42:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9A3106566C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 552298FC16 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 74864 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Dec 2009 19:42:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1260387751; bh=QdL38wmi4xK9Lb8L2+uzdsrJ+NhUXvdRQgzVxgJBV+M=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=E0mA2q8pgHf9qEkKSqQ7HOrwzjpRQVhIfWv5Y71ikuuidZAXWO44yXchya80zhwXqkU9vAMyVNPT8EkO3IvFScySrZeu4G8h+45lWmP7IVfc3yoKEVK46sysU3GEDSqtAd6DXIKULFB8vKCbLAGFhUllnlLhhfTj07d+QKfYOh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gnN3/KZbB6ataLH9rH/H4mTqeI9RRdSXV7Dh6BKZ4NVM+ibKvvUgUUynZwTbyLnR1++vWb7H11BDnFrL5QjeuUOQotPqMR98LPECrd3bda5rMBELFOsrPjTA0e5CQ/XmwBjeOBEOMfHCUz+m60aiy560wipsCbbaoHdhEqM1Q38=; Message-ID: <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2tOzBSMVM1mtDtIdlyDVIhk7XXRlnttKddJJFSDdyzq3zJUAhHcg7J4EJ53zMghRUAECgmyB9m8owJENYsttTl4I60DYPlgE03FPwpLtKyjM79o_9eR2gVYFkSdnlV6mWHk1As_shBMt8BYkZrfeiLPGqvhKaWQy2.P.Bb1z5C8yXdul9WYa7Wo_FL.3poJ.qx2zHbkMVg408OhMint4KyBzJH_eujhlCvKMZ3Zg0fFVCluG_zniFHuE__lIZwoOGccNFxJnd3Q87KPcnWfvA59BJN2JvBIVc_V3evfO_hao4mGlUl3nztb77AgRqjQ9ZEYSf7uM6I0yEDkpgMBEPIrETWZxAUBoqCrDMHTnp0xh7eRoJunax6zcCEu10CcSpUXU8vh2n_S2aNYqFzb.b7JZG24nFt5RzF9hjR0- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:42:31 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:42:31 -0800 (PST) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091209002231.EB7D01065741@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated (was: How do I create large ...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:42:32 -0000 > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:00:29 +0100 > From: Polytropon > Subject: Re: How do I create large partitions in FreeBSD? > To: krad > Cc: Peter Steele , > =A0=A0=A0 "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > > Message-ID: <20091208220029.2052102f.freebsd@edvax.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII >=20 > On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:52:52 +0000, krad > wrote: > > stay away from dangerously dedicated it seems as > though they are being > > phased out >=20 > I've followed the related discussion, but I'm not sure > what > to conclude from it... as far as I understood, creating an > installation "dangerously dedicated" mode isn't possible > from sysinstall anymore, but still possible via the > command > line tools. I don't see a reason why it is considered to > be > something bad, but the inclusion of a "carrier slice" for > the OS's partitions has always been recommended. But for > data disks where only one partition is intended, why > create > it inside a slice? >=20 I sort of followed the discussion as well. There was some=20 disagreement about what "dangreously dedicated" means. Does it mean=20 getting rid of the DOS partition table (slices?) Or, does it mean=20 creating a slice or disks without BSD partitions? The Handbook (18.3)=20 says: "If the disk is going to be truly dedicated to FreeBSD, you=20 can use the dedicated mode. Otherwise, FreeBSD will have to live=20 within one of the PC BIOS partitions. FreeBSD calls the PC BIOS=20 partitions slices so as not to confuse them with traditional BSD=20 partitions."=20 The programer in charge of the change seemed to indicate that the=20 "Dangerously dedicated" mode (I assume that means no BSD partititons)=20 conflicts with "GEOM: Modular Disk Transformation Framework." GEOM=20 appears to be an asbtraction layer for accessing various disks. With=20 the move underway to start accessing all disk as SCSI(3 is device=20 independent (with translation help)) devices, it probably makes for=20 more elegant code. Handbook (19.2 GEOM Introduction) reads: "GEOM permits access and control to classes -- Master Boot Records,=20 BSD labels, etc -- through the use of providers, or the special files=20 in /dev. Supporting various software RAID configurations, GEOM will=20 transparently provide access to the operating system and operating=20 system utilities."=20 The important thing in that quote is that "BSD labels" (and Master=20 Boot Records) are mentioned specificly.=20 Regards, James Phillips=0A=0A=0A ______________________________________________= ____________________=0AYahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the w= eb, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now=0Ahttp://ca.toolbar.= yahoo.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 20:19:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31F21065697 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E668FC1C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:19:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id E97DC16B66C; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:19:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.78]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E0CB316B55F; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:19:10 -0600 (CST) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:08:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:08:38 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Rich Winkel In-Reply-To: <20091209191744.GZ10511@math.missouri.edu> Message-ID: <20091209140822.P1351@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <20091209191744.GZ10511@math.missouri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: chris@officialunix.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hplip 3.9.8 on fbsd 7.1 with HP LJ P2035 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:19:19 -0000 On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Rich Winkel wrote: > Hi, I can't seem to get it to probe the printer. hp-setup says: > error: No devices found. > error: Error occured during interactive mode. Exiting. Did you run hp-setup from the command line? The GUI has been broken for a long time. Can you find the printer from the CUPS control panel? Is it set as the default printer in CUPS? > dmesg|grep HP says: > ugen0: on uhub0 > > The > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_p2035.html > page says a plugin is required, but no info on how to get that > plugin. > > Help!! > > Thanks, > Rich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 15:06:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D189B106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alain.aubord@sourire.ch) Received: from 212-98-41-64.static.adslpremium.ch (212-98-41-64.static.adslpremium.ch [212.98.41.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7098FC17 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from biollaz.local.sourire.ch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 212-98-41-64.static.adslpremium.ch (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB9F2pxC003426 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:02:51 +0100 (CET) Received: (from alain@localhost) by biollaz.local.sourire.ch (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id nB9F2Zaa003425 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:02:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:02:35 +0100 From: rhino64@postmail.ch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091209150235.GA3409@biollaz.local.sourire.ch> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:29:19 +0000 Subject: Where is file "channel_if.h" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:06:43 -0000 Hi All, I need to compile a sound driver which need the include file "channel_if.h". This file seems to be part of FreeBSD kernel definition. The only file I can find is "/usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel_if.m". It is similar to a header file but it seems that it should be modified to have the C header file syntax. How to do this transformation ? Thanks for the help, Alain Aubord From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 21:11:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168671065670 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B59D8FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from janh.freebsd (e177255143.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.177.255.143]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LdZnq-1Njaty43qU-00iszx; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:59:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4B200FA4.5040708@janh.de> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:59:16 +0100 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions-list freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18b/O0l+A4FUn4UXQFLbGwbNV/wuriOGQp442o KozVN0FGnOIF4letD/K4N7Hi79Bhd+d4UvwwDXpor0m41yBO0l yfjZOPZR+DvaTCrHnRUFQ== Subject: BIOS/FreeBSD? i7 laptop with constant fan and no c states on 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:11:55 -0000 I tried FreeBSD 8.0 on a Dell i7 laptop, but the fan is constantly spinning with maximal speed (and maximal noise). dev.cpu.0.cx_supported lists only C1. Maybe this is related to i386/135447 (but I am on 8.0/amd64 and not 7.2/i386). Even with powerd reducing the frequency to the lowest available, the fan still does not get quieter (it does on Windows 7). Is the BIOS doing something wrong or is it just FreeBSD not working with this fairly new processor, yet? Thanks, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 21:27:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D371065670 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF988FC0C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NIU3x-0002Gt-08 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:27:09 +0100 Received: from pool-68-239-72-201.res.east.verizon.net ([68.239.72.201]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:27:08 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-68-239-72-201.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:27:08 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:26:36 -0500 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <26710655.post@talk.nabble.com> <4B1FAE73.9010208@sbcglobal.net> <4B1FEB58.1050408@bah.homeip.net> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D87E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <4B1FF20B.7060503@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-68-239-72-201.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/4.3.4 Sender: news Subject: Re: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:27:14 -0000 J.D. Bronson wrote: > What if we tried a custom kernel and removed these lines: > > options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. > options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization > > I think that might remove these 'errors'. > My kernel already has these removed and yet I also only began getting these after upgrading from 7.2 to 8.0 on both servers at home. So far just ignored them. Normal csup source and make buildworld/etc dance followed with a portupgrade -af and make delete-old-libs. So, yes, another "Me Too". :-) -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 21:31:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73FF106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd_bronson@sbcglobal.net) Received: from cheyenne.hanadarko.com (75-9-98-151.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net [75.9.98.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF3E8FC08 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from macbook.hanadarko.com (macbook.hanadarko.com [10.43.82.6]) by cheyenne.hanadarko.com (8.14.4.Beta0/8.14.4.Beta0) with ESMTP id nB9LV7Df004850 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:31:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4B20171A.60801@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:31:06 -0600 From: "J.D. Bronson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091130 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <26710655.post@talk.nabble.com> <4B1FAE73.9010208@sbcglobal.net> <4B1FEB58.1050408@bah.homeip.net> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D87E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <4B1FF20B.7060503@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:31:08 -0000 Well then so much for my idea of removing those options from the kernel. Darn. Well if they have 'been' there since earlier FreeBSD I wonder why we never saw them until 8.x now ? There must be some reason... They do not appear to be anything but cosmetic but still annoying and worrisome for people like us. I suppose the next thing would be to find the offending code and comment it out... :-) -- J.D. Bronson Information Technology Aurora Health Care - Milwaukee WI Office: 414.978.8282 // Fax: 414.978.3988 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 22:48:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0EE71065670 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5957A8FC0C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C639C1E1E8; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:48:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nB9MmlKG001845; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:48:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:48:47 +0100 From: Polytropon To: James Phillips Message-Id: <20091209234847.042af7c0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <20091209002231.EB7D01065741@hub.freebsd.org> <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated (was: How do I create large ...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:48:51 -0000 On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:42:31 -0800 (PST), James Phillips wrote: > I sort of followed the discussion as well. There was some > disagreement about what "dangreously dedicated" means. For comparison, I seem to remember that the two concepts are called "compatibility mode" and "(dangerously) dedicated mode", with the "dangerously" looking like a further addition. > Does it mean > getting rid of the DOS partition table (slices?) The use of slices - "DOS primary partitions" has often been suggested for FreeBSD, but it has always worked without them. I think the neccessarity to use them is what I said before: compatibility. FreeBSD can handle "no slices" well, but maybe other operating systems and "Windows" can't? A common problem is that due do compatibility (again), the number of slices is limited to 4. > Or, does it mean > creating a slice or disks without BSD partitions? How should this be possible? A partition (not a "DOS primary partition", to avoid misunderstandings) is required for creating a file system. Let's say you want to create a file system on a disk: # newfs da0 This means that a partition is created - da0c - and inside this partition the file system resides. This is a common method for accessing data disks (disks you don't boot from). > The Handbook (18.3) > says: "If the disk is going to be truly dedicated to FreeBSD, you > can use the dedicated mode. Otherwise, FreeBSD will have to live > within one of the PC BIOS partitions. FreeBSD calls the PC BIOS > partitions slices so as not to confuse them with traditional BSD > partitions." Exactly. No "dangerously" here. > The programer in charge of the change seemed to indicate that the > "Dangerously dedicated" mode (I assume that means no BSD partititons) > conflicts with "GEOM: Modular Disk Transformation Framework." No. It means "absence of a slice carrying the partitions", which is the dedicated approach. > GEOM > appears to be an asbtraction layer for accessing various disks. With > the move underway to start accessing all disk as SCSI(3 is device > independent (with translation help)) devices, it probably makes for > more elegant code. Handbook (19.2 GEOM Introduction) reads: > "GEOM permits access and control to classes -- Master Boot Records, > BSD labels, etc -- through the use of providers, or the special files > in /dev. Supporting various software RAID configurations, GEOM will > transparently provide access to the operating system and operating > system utilities." > The important thing in that quote is that "BSD labels" (and Master > Boot Records) are mentioned specificly. That's correct. BSD labels, usually created by disklabel, refer to FreeBSD partitions. MBR refers to slices (this is "DOS primary partitions", and maybe includes "logical volumes inside a DOS extended partition", all the things that produce "drive letters"). The only thing I can conclude from this is that the removal of dedicated mode is due to increasing compatibility with the abilities of GEOM... I've got lots of ? flying around my head... :-) Allow me to try a summary: Dedicated mode (also "dangerously dedicated mode"): da0 da0a da0b da0d da0e da0f da0g { (/) (swap) (/tmp) (/var) (/usr) (/home) } Compatibility mode: da0 da0s1 da0s1a da0s1b da0s1d da0s1e da0s1f da0s1g { [ (/) (swap) (/tmp) (/var) (/usr) (/home) ] } I'm not sure hgow this fits into the concept of installing multiple operating systems. For example, "Windows" requires you to install it in a slice. No problem with compatibility mode, but does this work in dedicated mode, too? I think the suggestion is "No, does not work" simply because the disk is DEDICATED to FreeBSD. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 23:39:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D480C106566B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryallsd@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFBF8FC15 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1106262qwc.46 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:39:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cLLIzskxnmn3UBEV0i9Ye5BvBpWrEz34aIT6vxaA5oI=; b=djQlHo+X0i+63x2MoXeJeuptvtEReYJGBmLON2lQKxi2CFn535+dK3BhtmcBgrd07o xkHSL2K40v4bK+DHQqexdffceFQYnyT3sqdjsXmplhK/1yralDJ2ziFVGYn62NDdhrxU GPTRtDCbVP8eYqTzVU5qxxTb6Iz7AUz+ikzSw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CJgA+LKEcv6p+eEJ5J6YjFNATz+q3H/SIeyLROUOqYH6EsEGo/UJo3VVEmqdw6oKPW q2T1JTs/QW17SlhMdevSE/Mx/RKdOW9IQ2FPcWVRbE5rJl+fYxPZHaCivKjE6/+vATIR 5YMsCrr8l53rwR3aEZxKThlVtSJOXO3aXp/Hw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.29.148 with SMTP id q20mr1773296qcc.51.1260401940701; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:39:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:39:00 -0800 Message-ID: From: Derrick Ryalls To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: named needs restart after a reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:39:01 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Derrick Ryalls wrote: >> >> uname: >> >> FreeBSD example.com 8.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 #0: Sun Dec >> 6 11:23:52 PST 2009 =A0 =A0 ryallsd@example.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FRO= DO >> amd64 >> >> I have most things working, but I have noticed that every time I >> reboot the machine, I need to manually restart named to get it >> listening on the proper interfaces as by default it is listening on >> 127.0.0.1 interfaces only. =A0A simple /etc/rc.d/named restart fixes it >> which seems like it would be configured correctly, but I have had to >> do this on a install before. >> >> Anyone have a guess as to what could be wrong? > > Only a guess: network interface comes up too late. =A0If you're using DHC= P to > configure that interface, you could try SYNCDHCP. =A0Or if it's an re(4) > interface, there are patches in 8-STABLE that make it come up faster. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > ifconfig_nfe0=3D"SYNCDHCP" Was the fix, thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 00:08:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41698106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougs@dawnsign.com) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (cetus.dawnsign.com [216.70.250.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283C98FC17 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7D395938 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from cetus.dawnsign.com (cetus.dawnsign.com [192.168.101.5]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC409583A for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by cetus.dawnsign.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:50:07 -0800 Message-ID: From: Doug Sampson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:50:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: HP USB 2.0 Tape Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:08:16 -0000 Hi, I'm looking to buy a tape drive and am currently looking at USB 2.0 DAT tape drives from HP. I searched the hardware compatibility list and cannot locate any information tape drives except the disclaimer that SCSI tape drives do work on SCSI controller cards that are recognized by the FreeBSD OS. The only thing I can find is that apparently the ehci driver must be used if USB 2.0 interface is to be used with a tape drive. Does anyone have had positive or negative experience using these USB-based DAT tape drives? Specifically, I am looking at the HP (Hewlett-Packard) StorageWorks Q1581SB DAT 160 Tape Drive. If there are other branded USB 2.0-based tape drives (i.e. Quantum) that you've used with little or no problems, I would be interested in knowing about these. ~Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 00:40:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701DA106568B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7D88FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0463A3836; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:40:41 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1260405641; x= 1262220041; bh=KnEB1lIb9WgMw8n5ZZ3VrFzzRNi17kyAISJBltHVWs0=; b=K QzWRPLaRWUpwMuOMZ8198W1a5p9+nsqMNbCCi0A9IcOn9fUAM7XBCEoJqe+drdeM smBH2ZmQnewrT6+kFXuptBSfI8T0P1X6WBNCzU7Zir9Pm+T15UfEuhL26lE6oP24 si/xul7HKRjhRAbk1IZbC8iqQ1dZb45RlITsxX7bJ0= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id K4CX4bA3rkgq; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:40:41 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A356B3A3832; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:40:40 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBA0edrB006740; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:40:39 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:40:39 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912100040.nBA0edrB006740@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: dougs@dawnsign.com In-reply-to: (message from Doug Sampson on Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:50:04 -0800) References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP USB 2.0 Tape Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:40:44 -0000 Hi Doug, > Does anyone have had positive or negative experience using these USB-based > DAT tape drives? Specifically, I am looking at the HP (Hewlett-Packard) I know that I am not really answering your question but here are a couple of thoughts that came to my mind when reading your post: - USB 2 should be able to sustain the transfer speed to stream your DAT drive, I checked that point; - I always considered DAT one of the worse tape solution myself, too sensitive to the physical conditions, too prone to errors, could never read a tape after 6 months; - why spending money in a 80GB tape drive when you can have 10TB of hard disk for the same price; I beleive you have a bunch of existing tapes that hold data you must read. Then I would plug my USB DAT to any operating system that supports it, transfer the data to some hard disc, and be done with the tapes. And if FreeBSD cannot use the tape drive, as it is a one time task only, I would go for some other OS. Good luck, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 00:46:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00F61065670 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 232747@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5360F8FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so6076767gxk.13 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:46:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/9ExrPrp+QOd+vcYx/91A4QC4I2sasSyuLiT+c3OPxE=; b=Xprs46HG5LG7BGZYJPRLjzOB1Lqw/Ar8Aib5dzhrMXOZpuUFcQ4bduToQHosawOOGd rEJjEbDcZPSoQ4kiZiMXOB1nuhTIcem5lRIMw0svFIAyLyptyQ2qs0t8dqrAChS86HLL ak+PersUMWYBL9ugNy/nbVOYSclGG5TOpnLcA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=pzWmT16KCzwloXibFG3Y5eBOFsEYzUejEnnZTAyc+4KVqXvfxA+i8pJbLbrHzpVi+G hIv6OYlCkUKIpxoyrV4S/i87oHLj556N2wDLF9v+lQbstEUlAJFTWuUyKn2OCeDAxtmk IM+owEQnQWPNnM3xLbu6ERSoWLy15vI10uk4U= Received: by 10.150.70.13 with SMTP id s13mr17591460yba.319.1260405981333; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.250? (173-16-22-10.client.mchsi.com [173.16.22.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm169781iwn.0.2009.12.09.16.46.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:46:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: 23 23 <232747@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2044DA.8030300@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:46:18 -0600 From: "Corey J. Bukolt" <0.23@mail.ru> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091024) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B1F5263.1060907@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <4B1F5263.1060907@mail.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Temporarily halt boot process to enter encryption keys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:46:22 -0000 Corey J. Bukolt wrote: > Hello list, > > I have a FreeNAS box with a CF card for root, and 3 drives (soon to > be 4) set up with encryption and raidz on top of them. A less than > excellent detailed report of what I did is here: > http://bit.ly/5BeZq8 This setup is a bit hackish as after the > system boots I need to attach each drive using geli, run "zpool > import -f primary", and then restart all my services (nfs, samba, > etc). > > It's become a bit of a chore (especially when doing it all from a > N810), so I'm looking for a way to temporary halt the boot process > so that I can ssh in, attach the drives, and then allow the system > to continue to boot. > > A few ideas come to mind, such as meddling with rc scripts, but I'd > like to get some suggestions from the more experienced FreeBSD > hackers before I go off breaking my system. > > Thanks, ~Corey > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Anybody at all? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 01:09:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1251065679 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougs@dawnsign.com) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (cetus.dawnsign.com [216.70.250.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666398FC1E for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09E49592A; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:09:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from cetus.dawnsign.com (cetus.dawnsign.com [192.168.101.5]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612AB9583A; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:09:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by cetus.dawnsign.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:09:07 -0800 Message-ID: From: Doug Sampson To: 'Olivier Nicole' Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:09:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: HP USB 2.0 Tape Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:09:13 -0000 > Hi Doug, > > > Does anyone have had positive or negative experience using > these USB-based > > DAT tape drives? Specifically, I am looking at the HP > (Hewlett-Packard) > > I know that I am not really answering your question but here are a > couple of thoughts that came to my mind when reading your post: > > - USB 2 should be able to sustain the transfer speed to stream your > DAT drive, I checked that point; > > - I always considered DAT one of the worse tape solution myself, too > sensitive to the physical conditions, too prone to errors, could > never read a tape after 6 months; > Interesting points you raise. I have owned several DAT drives (Quantum, Sony, and HP) over the past 17 years and have yet to lose ability to restore data due to bad tapes. I am careful where I store these between use. I use these with SCSI interfaces on Windows systems with one exception- I use a SCSI-based Sony DDS DAT 12/24 tape drive in a FBSD system running PGSQL. All I just want to know is whether FBSD will recognize and work with the tape drive I posed in my previous email (the Hewlett-Packard StorageWorks Q1581SB DAT 160 Tape Drive). Will it be identified as /dev/da* something? Can any one of you confirm if you got any USB 2.0 tape drive to work with FBSD? I like the fact that I can just plug a USB tape drive into a new system in seconds without having to fuss about installing a SCSI/SAS card and have a tape back up made relatively soon. As a side note: I had trouble getting certain branded USB external hard drives recognized by FreeBSD. I ended up using LaCie hard drives as these were listed as being compatible. Thus I am cautious about anything that uses USB in general with FreeBSD. I just got off the phone with a Quantum technical staffer and he was stymied by my question whether their USB 2.0 DAT 160 tape drive would be recognized by FBSD. He pushed me off to a sales representative who is just got off for the day. ~Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 01:23:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E09106568D for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:23:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9BD8FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so303026ewy.13 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:22:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6m5PgnbjtDpTh3M3+nlGZ6hGWudzyfDaPKtSkL4Osjo=; b=brjOCf4Y/0G8TY3Ids862FiVvaOqE0/aEC+MoSAuPWSBnM2cC+qZP/ahYCMXKz3nAd UrdOhLxHwTIJxaprptR8hTB22AktoPj4YUVQl5mdLmpuLOUJ5jHBh1MC8BcRtC2BbwgS +LxK8fSy9XDi6iVYgse7vMeh79qmq3xKVyTHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=osri+xcB/S+W/eRd3NyVSoac3UYOKLyjqfaSfE+JjbLLVxezIWGhm+vjU7RQJBxgTJ pkzBYHN+PKR+top/hHFN+qu0hqZUziDi/gUzd8vkkfsVMLpRex8FwA475o58lzYx9t13 0Xd+dh1ztriUOriTh4Ncwg1VOJQzpUbcrdiUA= Received: by 10.216.90.11 with SMTP id d11mr855086wef.187.1260408179459; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t12sm1316000gvd.5.2009.12.09.17.22.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:22:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:22:56 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091210012256.7d2e8240@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <20091209002231.EB7D01065741@hub.freebsd.org> <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.4; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated (was: How do I create large ...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:23:01 -0000 On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:42:31 -0800 (PST) James Phillips wrote: > I sort of followed the discussion as well. There was some > disagreement about what "dangreously dedicated" means. Does it mean > getting rid of the DOS partition table (slices?) Or, does it mean > creating a slice or disks without BSD partitions? It means the former. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 01:33:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204EC106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy3.bredband.net (proxy3.bredband.net [195.54.101.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF628FC14 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1BA0188CFAE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:33:21 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AotMANfeH0tV44PPPGdsb2JhbACBS5c8glMBAQEBN7l7hCwEhWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,371,1257116400"; d="scan'208";a="13602554" Received: from c-cf83e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO lazlar.kicks-ass.net) ([85.227.131.207]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 02:33:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4B204FDD.3070005@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:33:17 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091209002231.EB7D01065741@hub.freebsd.org> <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20091210012256.7d2e8240@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20091210012256.7d2e8240@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:33:23 -0000 RW wrote: > On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:42:31 -0800 (PST) > James Phillips wrote: > > >> I sort of followed the discussion as well. There was some >> disagreement about what "dangreously dedicated" means. Does it mean >> getting rid of the DOS partition table (slices?) Or, does it mean >> creating a slice or disks without BSD partitions? > > It means the former. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > As far as I understand it, it's called Dangerously Dedicated because it may cause other systems not to recognise the disk. Consequently, newfs'ing a slice without first partitioning it can hardly be DD, since that is what other systems do, right? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 01:37:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B884106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3B08FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so312888ewy.13 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:36:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YZAFGxkOCLKlJf0kypxSTXAmMRoMColyXVOeFskM0dc=; b=p0u3dhINvNS714dS2LdZJ3U1H44/PN/now3a3MrtkHJ6y2Bq3+/gZw4dIzzDf1i2X5 QGa8M6lSWiyYI16hZiP9EVcp3jw305DTeljdWIe11FmukPPul8Q+OJl6l5Qm9RfkKO81 INmDVE16RqcL4hSrtbtA9uEbxWT4p5SK1OS58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fxXd5Kcjmpp6VxNeqrUMYsAow8zKXwB5HbPSyCkAFhLFfBa+Yjs3KxrE6nU1/8vv/s t0uN3Nbr/Pxtj1NbdciH/OkBAW/bDO/pFG5+DuP/StuMxxwgWXjEbPcXksU8xeGdqVsY SWBpIO0PMf6vnSHaBb/byNSg+KMwvjRK6bFR0= Received: by 10.216.90.81 with SMTP id d59mr3584716wef.29.1260409018097; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:36:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m5sm1279205gve.27.2009.12.09.17.36.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:36:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:36:53 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091210013653.7ca1039e@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <159BAE4B-6BF2-4696-AF66-93A58E42D7CD@mac.com> References: <26710655.post@talk.nabble.com> <4B1FAE73.9010208@sbcglobal.net> <4B1FEB58.1050408@bah.homeip.net> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D87E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <159BAE4B-6BF2-4696-AF66-93A58E42D7CD@mac.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.4; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:37:00 -0000 On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:59:51 -0800 Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi-- > > On Dec 9, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Peter Steele wrote: > > Add my name to the list--we get tons of these messages since > > upgrading to 8.0.... > > This isn't new with 8.x; it's been around since 4.0, if not earlier. Something has changed though because I saw this for a data drive that been around for a long time and 7.x never complained. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 01:42:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F541065692 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF968FC21 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so1809595eye.9 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:42:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PxZjn/IP4bKmdIlQmjgdz0wYiRNiFqbfuO3LX4s5t1k=; b=XNRRHiEk4Fga7cmbOb6d5EiD85DMLpivwQmPS6Y47+qWgBmib6gX9FHQGWt3gTJjmF x82CMNa+rjOzqu3JJW8njSDkrf1rzKHN5r8iq7T8onNj40YI6QexvOyJQzfWy2i9ryf7 R3Rx5805jtiz57aZVU9YTXH6sZZSG9uWolFVY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ViycW209xPoO2w7lkUgF5pb2c8wNnTRpFoph91baCdmwL2Z77q7GUBtgr/dI7ZFhtN kyu8Jdk/1JVpakdF8RhG8Sv9oyXZJJq32GZm0JcuC4y40I2U69rahMai+7g5W1KT3uBy 5gl19To0Ug0cEiCGRjCk0eHZjwZp6wAlJdSJE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.68.143 with SMTP id v15mr1826119ebi.45.1260409320076; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:42:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B204FDD.3070005@lazlarlyricon.com> References: <20091209002231.EB7D01065741@hub.freebsd.org> <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20091210012256.7d2e8240@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B204FDD.3070005@lazlarlyricon.com> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <26ddd1750912091741g60fb428ape15225c12e9d8c8b@mail.gmail.com> To: Rolf Nielsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:42:01 -0000 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > RW wrote: >> >> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:42:31 -0800 (PST) >> James Phillips wrote: >> >> >>> I sort of followed the discussion as well. There was some disagreement >>> about what "dangreously dedicated" means. Does it mean getting rid of t= he >>> DOS partition table (slices?) =C2=A0Or, does it mean creating a slice o= r disks >>> without BSD partitions? >> >> It means the former. >> > > As far as I understand it, it's called Dangerously Dedicated because it m= ay > cause other systems not to recognise the disk. Consequently, newfs'ing a > slice without first partitioning it can hardly be DD, since that is what > other systems do, right? That is correct. That slice will not be bootable, but you can use it to store data. - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 01:46:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13442106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:679::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12658FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (unknown [87.194.158.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA3F98359; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:44:45 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: RW Message-ID: <20091210014445.00007b5b@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20091210013653.7ca1039e@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <26710655.post@talk.nabble.com> <4B1FAE73.9010208@sbcglobal.net> <4B1FEB58.1050408@bah.homeip.net> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0D87E@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <159BAE4B-6BF2-4696-AF66-93A58E42D7CD@mac.com> <20091210013653.7ca1039e@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2cvs27 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:46:47 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:36:53 +0000 RW wrote: > On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:59:51 -0800 > Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > Hi-- > > > > On Dec 9, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Peter Steele wrote: > > > Add my name to the list--we get tons of these messages since > > > upgrading to 8.0.... > > > > This isn't new with 8.x; it's been around since 4.0, if not earlier. > > Something has changed though because I saw this for a data drive that > been around for a long time and 7.x never complained. The message was added around this time last year: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2008-December/002175.html -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 02:01:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1843C106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7078FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB54A24B01; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:01:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBA21XAU002539; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:01:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:01:33 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Doug Sampson Message-Id: <20091210030133.63a23cc6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'Olivier Nicole' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP USB 2.0 Tape Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:01:37 -0000 On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:09:05 -0800 , Doug Sampson wrote: > All I just want to know is whether FBSD will recognize and work with the > tape drive I posed in my previous email (the Hewlett-Packard StorageWorks > Q1581SB DAT 160 Tape Drive). Will it be identified as /dev/da* something? I would guess it will identify as /dev/sa* (da = direct access, sa = sequential access), at least SCSI tape drives occur in that manner. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 02:08:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5532106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945A28FC15 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74AE1E461; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:08:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBA28G3m002722; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:08:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:08:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Rolf Nielsen Message-Id: <20091210030816.152b05c9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4B204FDD.3070005@lazlarlyricon.com> References: <20091209002231.EB7D01065741@hub.freebsd.org> <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20091210012256.7d2e8240@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B204FDD.3070005@lazlarlyricon.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:08:18 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:33:17 +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > As far as I understand it, it's called Dangerously Dedicated because it > may cause other systems not to recognise the disk. Primarily, it's called "dedicated" (only) because it describes a setting where a whole hard disk is dedicated to the FreeBSD operating system. The addition "dangerously" seems to describe the danger that other operating systems cannot handle such a disk layout, or may cause problems to them - but I don't know this for sure because I'm not a "multi-booter". :-) > Consequently, > newfs'ing a slice without first partitioning it can hardly be DD, since > that is what other systems do, right? If you run newfs inside a slice, you would create a partition covering the whole slice, and so it's still compatibility mode (the opposite of DD mode); DD mode implies the absence of a slice at all. da0 da0s1 da0s1c { [ (/) ] } Other systems operate on slice level, on a "DOS primary partition", where they create their file systems in a certain way, e. g. an msdos file system. In such a case, there are no partitions inside the slice because partitions are specific to operating systems like FreeBSD. da0 da0s1 da0s2 da0s3 da0s3a { [ C: ] [ D: ] [ (/) ] } msdosfs msdosfs ufs -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 02:12:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9987106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F068FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E4D24AE1; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:12:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBA2CjwJ002742; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:12:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:12:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Maxim Khitrov Message-Id: <20091210031245.3fd58187.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750912091741g60fb428ape15225c12e9d8c8b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091209002231.EB7D01065741@hub.freebsd.org> <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20091210012256.7d2e8240@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B204FDD.3070005@lazlarlyricon.com> <26ddd1750912091741g60fb428ape15225c12e9d8c8b@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:12:48 -0000 On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:41:40 -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Rolf Nielsen > wrote: > > As far as I understand it, it's called Dangerously Dedicated because it may > > cause other systems not to recognise the disk. Consequently, newfs'ing a > > slice without first partitioning it can hardly be DD, since that is what > > other systems do, right? > > That is correct. That slice will not be bootable, but you can use it > to store data. Being bootable is a matter of what the MBR boot block says. In a DD setting, it refers to the first partition (that's not within a slice), e. g. ad0a. Especially in a multi-OS setting, the use of slices seems to be strongly recommended so all operating systems behave in the required way (due to compatibility reasons, see "DOS primary partitions"), which limits the number of slices to 4. For plain storage, it's not needed to encapsulate the partition with the file system inside a slice, e. g. ad1 ad1s1 ad1s1e { [ (/data) ] } in comparison to ad1 ad1c { (/data) } And as it is known, the "c" can be omitted, as in # mount /dev/ad1 /data -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 04:01:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEE31065679 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:01:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76C58FC1C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so2960648pwi.3 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:01:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QDoiuIrlNcG7ljspsAdPDhxCIY6m9B+AZQJhKpK88RI=; b=Ax57MZtZq74aNizuBo8JOCd/zwApHc6r0TVyNcQFxy+DTTyXAOmQEL/9nY5NLhPoeF AiJOv40SbeTTN7MNAlOlkpXs+2meD0krHU0Uj1yojSEyRVwD+l40UYKd/aBw4Fn1AgrT R9r03gY1EyG7tRrJL/WkdLudHlxCup55kaiG0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=XUScyHKzngRl41mvpf1SGAPAWJS6v3J3T8EBMuBlLpatnoYIQrRP1uE0qLkpzohQoc GIuJSViC69wcUAXIgmJJuY6e9G7gcyJvl4BAcerfaOaKfB5yJuOPj73XiluhjBGXpcV4 qvTATOujGs/7JQ/pP6NvCwSaIycnUU6aaUwhM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.154.38 with SMTP id g38mr1754258wfo.186.1260417699234; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:01:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B2044DA.8030300@mail.ru> References: <4B1F5263.1060907@mail.ru> <4B2044DA.8030300@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:01:39 -0700 Message-ID: <64c038660912092001t300e8dd9id6c27a01c4b3c65d@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: "Corey J. Bukolt" <0.23@mail.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temporarily halt boot process to enter encryption keys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:01:40 -0000 Corey, Umm...write a script perhaps? Nobody else has taken a shot at this one yet, so I'll try. This is just what I'd do. That said, it's probably not the best solution. It's an idea. You may have to work out some bugs along the way. In regards to interrupting the boot process, I don't think this is what you're after, unless you have console access. In which case you'd use geli to set the boot flag on your providers. The boot process will stop, ask for a password and then continue. The problem is that this occurs before daemons like sshd are started; Unless you have console access, you're screwed. Thus, your problem... You want the system to boot as usual, it's just you don't want it to start any third party daemons such as samba ...yet! (This is why runlevels on SysV style startups are useful. It would be a matter of switching to a custom runlevel.) You would first disable the various daemons by not having them in your 'rc.conf' file. You'd then write a wrapper script, in your language of choice. The wrapper simply calls the various '/usr/local/etc/rc.d' scripts to start all of your third party daemons as usual. ...and whatever else you need to do. Remember to pass the 'onestart' argument, because the rc scripts are no longer listed in /etc/rc.conf. With all that in place you'd ssh in and execute the wrapper as the root user. (root)> engage Poof done. You can put the wrapper script anywhere you want. Name it anything you like. Just make sure it's executable by the root user. (Thus be careful when writing it!) An example of a python wrapper might look something like the one below. Change to fit your needs, obviously. Admittedly it's not he most pythonic code ever written. It also probably has bugs to work out, but again, it's an idea. #!/usr/local/bin/python """ Wrapper which executes a bunch of files.""" import os import sys import subprocess as sp # Change this to suit your needs: SCRIPTS_TO_CALL = [ '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22', '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba', '/etc/rc.d/ntpd' ] if os.geteuid() != 0: sys.stderr.write("This script must be executed as the root user. Aborting.\n") for script in SCRIPTS_TO_CALL: if os.path.exists(script): command = script + " onestart" p = sp.Popen(command, shell=True, stdout=sp.PIPE, stderr=sp.PIPE) # Now write out any errors/output to their usual places: sys.stdout.write(p.stdout.read()+"\n") sys.stderr.write(p.stderr.read()+"\n") else: sys.stderr.write("File, '%s' does not exist. Skipping...\n" % script) Hacky, perhaps buggy, but perhaps useful. Unless anyone has a better idea? With a little more refinement you could probably even convert your FreeBSD box into a sysV equivalent, making complex custom startups easier in the future. Blasphemy, I know! -Modulok- On 12/9/09, Corey J. Bukolt <0.23@mail.ru> wrote: > Corey J. Bukolt wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> I have a FreeNAS box with a CF card for root, and 3 drives (soon to >> be 4) set up with encryption and raidz on top of them. A less than >> excellent detailed report of what I did is here: >> http://bit.ly/5BeZq8 This setup is a bit hackish as after the >> system boots I need to attach each drive using geli, run "zpool >> import -f primary", and then restart all my services (nfs, samba, >> etc). >> >> It's become a bit of a chore (especially when doing it all from a >> N810), so I'm looking for a way to temporary halt the boot process >> so that I can ssh in, attach the drives, and then allow the system >> to continue to boot. >> >> A few ideas come to mind, such as meddling with rc scripts, but I'd >> like to get some suggestions from the more experienced FreeBSD >> hackers before I go off breaking my system. >> >> Thanks, ~Corey >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >> unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > Anybody at all? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 04:13:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C76106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryallsd@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42348FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1152010qwc.46 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:13:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7S5EePTDlbWIap0IxQY88hV2CYiH0czOoxeiqbh6bRw=; b=MWmPjeCLM7XRqVBt0e5EM89faXVx3be7syG+UrVEdQ1jS0hMje4gog+hZqkpXTCVjT L9nP24yi0atfJAyfACXSnmQvbdwYC0iHrAPSukuDVU4ytWTvYNjYpn43Xi3Odw8c7IVu 6CzwdOeGl1gZ6tHBBkvrQhq+JTscfnZRd5WDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b1fCq0YtddkTFjFB8uD6PkTePDcS2T2CpynEa3X6oMS68J8mQsK6kuVSoyOUpDcEM/ mhw7zC4mlpwg5NCMafNFFD+c/wXmGFYYTbAvmnfddEXSKO2gYlaTXTtpLma700qF2qH6 DsCFYiJ8Mhhbg9UCFiuEZK3NtQNGUhQEeZhgI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.43.77 with SMTP id v13mr1874400qce.82.1260418402805; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:13:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:13:22 -0800 Message-ID: From: Derrick Ryalls To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: named needs restart after a reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:13:25 -0000 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Derrick Ryalls wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Derrick Ryalls wrote: >>> >>> uname: >>> >>> FreeBSD example.com 8.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 #0: Sun Dec >>> 6 11:23:52 PST 2009 =A0 =A0 ryallsd@example.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FR= ODO >>> amd64 >>> >>> I have most things working, but I have noticed that every time I >>> reboot the machine, I need to manually restart named to get it >>> listening on the proper interfaces as by default it is listening on >>> 127.0.0.1 interfaces only. =A0A simple /etc/rc.d/named restart fixes it >>> which seems like it would be configured correctly, but I have had to >>> do this on a install before. >>> >>> Anyone have a guess as to what could be wrong? >> >> Only a guess: network interface comes up too late. =A0If you're using DH= CP to >> configure that interface, you could try SYNCDHCP. =A0Or if it's an re(4) >> interface, there are patches in 8-STABLE that make it come up faster. >> >> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA >> > > ifconfig_nfe0=3D"SYNCDHCP" > > Was the fix, thanks! > Spoke too soon. On one reboot, the interface couldn't talk to DHCP until I set it down then back up. I have gone to statically setting the IP. Not ideal, but seems to be working (based on one clean reboot). 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(173-16-22-10.client.mchsi.com [173.16.22.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm282626iwn.13.2009.12.09.20.31.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:31:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: 23 23 <232747@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B207997.9010609@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:31:19 -0600 From: "Corey J. Bukolt" <0.23@mail.ru> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091024) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Modulok References: <4B1F5263.1060907@mail.ru> <4B2044DA.8030300@mail.ru> <64c038660912092001t300e8dd9id6c27a01c4b3c65d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660912092001t300e8dd9id6c27a01c4b3c65d@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temporarily halt boot process to enter encryption keys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:31:22 -0000 Modulok wrote: > Corey, > > Umm...write a script perhaps? > > Nobody else has taken a shot at this one yet, so I'll try. This is > just what I'd do. That said, it's probably not the best solution. > It's an idea. You may have to work out some bugs along the way. > > In regards to interrupting the boot process, I don't think this is > what you're after, unless you have console access. In which case > you'd use geli to set the boot flag on your providers. The boot > process will stop, ask for a password and then continue. The > problem is that this occurs before daemons like sshd are started; > Unless you have console access, you're screwed. Thus, your > problem... Exactly. > > You want the system to boot as usual, it's just you don't want it > to start any third party daemons such as samba ...yet! > > (This is why runlevels on SysV style startups are useful. It would > be a matter of switching to a custom runlevel.) > > You would first disable the various daemons by not having them in > your 'rc.conf' file. You'd then write a wrapper script, in your > language of choice. The wrapper simply calls the various > '/usr/local/etc/rc.d' scripts to start all of your third party > daemons as usual. ...and whatever else you need to do. Remember to > pass the 'onestart' argument, because the rc scripts are no longer > listed in /etc/rc.conf. With all that in place you'd ssh in and > execute the wrapper as the root user. > > (root)> engage > > Poof done. You can put the wrapper script anywhere you want. Name > it anything you like. Just make sure it's executable by the root > user. (Thus be careful when writing it!) An example of a python > wrapper might look something like the one below. Change to fit your > needs, obviously. Admittedly it's not he most pythonic code ever > written. It also probably has bugs to work out, but again, it's an > idea. > > #!/usr/local/bin/python """ Wrapper which executes a bunch of > files.""" > > import os import sys import subprocess as sp > > # Change this to suit your needs: SCRIPTS_TO_CALL = [ > '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22', '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba', > '/etc/rc.d/ntpd' ] > > if os.geteuid() != 0: sys.stderr.write("This script must be > executed as the root user. Aborting.\n") > > for script in SCRIPTS_TO_CALL: if os.path.exists(script): command = > script + " onestart" p = sp.Popen(command, shell=True, > stdout=sp.PIPE, stderr=sp.PIPE) > > # Now write out any errors/output to their usual places: > sys.stdout.write(p.stdout.read()+"\n") > sys.stderr.write(p.stderr.read()+"\n") else: > sys.stderr.write("File, '%s' does not exist. Skipping...\n" % > script) > > > Hacky, perhaps buggy, but perhaps useful. Unless anyone has a > better idea? With a little more refinement you could probably even > convert your FreeBSD box into a sysV equivalent, making complex > custom startups easier in the future. Blasphemy, I know! > > -Modulok- > Oooo.....Not a bad idea at all. It might be even simpler just to disable the services in rc.conf, then use a simple shell script with something like: #!/bin/sh /etc/rc.d/nfsd start /etc/rc.d/samba start .....etc Then all that would have to be done is boot the system, ssh in, attach the drives using geli, then run engage.sh (or whatever). Thank you very much for the idea. :) ~Corey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 04:36:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03C91065670 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from esmtp.webtent.net (esmtp1.webtent.net [208.38.145.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5978FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (media.rfitz.com [72.64.244.53]) (Authenticated sender: robert@esmtp.webtent.net) by esmtp.webtent.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 81C5BB82D for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:49:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B20748D.6000405@webtent.net> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:09:49 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mountroot prompt after hint.apic.0.disabled=1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:36:23 -0000 Don't know if that loader.conf change affected this server, I disabled APIC in loader.conf after finding it may be responsible for a slow clock on this VMware guest FreeBSD install. I rebooted for the changes to take affect and it goes now to a mountroot prompt, can't seem to load the root partition. I type ? at the prompt and it does not list anything after 'List of GEOM managed disk devices'. Can anyone suggest how I can fix this problem? Thanks, Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 07:40:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B987106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798978FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.173.40]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:40:10 -0800 Message-ID: <4B20A5D0.9090100@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:40:00 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2009 07:40:10.0849 (UTC) FILETIME=[00B0B510:01CA796C] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: ipfilter nat redirect udp packets X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:40:14 -0000 Have this nat rule rdr rl0 0.0.0.0/0 port 6355 -> 10.0.10.3 port 6355 I can see in the log that tcp packets are being redirected but udp packets are not. Can not find any verbiage in man 5 0r 8 ipnat that states rdr rule only matches on tcp packets. I thought tcp/udp packets should be redirected? Can anyone clarify this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 07:50:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6552F106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-9.bnguk.net (atmail-9.bnguk.net [80.74.253.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245B48FC1B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-9.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NIdn4-00022x-Un for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:50:23 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 19E1D4AC1B; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:50:21 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:50:21 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20091210075021.GA77868@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Subject: make delete-old question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:50:39 -0000 Hi, Successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0 but had my usual problem when jumping major versions with the make delete-old target. The problem being that it asks me to confirm deletion of each lib/file with a "y" and a return. I've found that I never say "n" to any deletion and it becomes very tedious to hammer at the keyboard for hundreds of libs/files. Is there a way to change the Makefile so that they all get deleted with just one "y" and a return? Or possibly use yes(1) to script it? TIA. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 07:54:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D981106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lazlar@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED57A8FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1C001987094 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:54:20 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgZgACM4IEtV44PPPGdsb2JhbACBS4c8kACCUwEBAQE3uHuELAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,374,1257116400"; d="scan'208";a="13716160" Received: from c-cf83e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO lazlar.kicks-ass.net) ([85.227.131.207]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 08:54:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4B20A92B.3070304@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:54:19 +0100 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20091210075021.GA77868@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20091210075021.GA77868@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: make delete-old question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:54:22 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > Hi, > > Successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0 but had my usual problem when > jumping major versions with the make delete-old target. > > The problem being that it asks me to confirm deletion of each lib/file > with a "y" and a return. I've found that I never say "n" to any > deletion and it becomes very tedious to hammer at the keyboard for > hundreds of libs/files. > > Is there a way to change the Makefile so that they all get deleted > with just one "y" and a return? Or possibly use yes(1) to script it? > > TIA. > > Regards, > yes | make delete-old From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 07:54:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4A21065670 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F708FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27A13A3863; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:54:31 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1260431671; x= 1262246071; bh=XsGIywdy5HYiEAvX9PFYtkQvwbNl5N3jwt7yMOopb+I=; b=T h0/IYr0BxTVbcRS5xxXv8Zzu5eNGaExdwlM/QC0JbXT2OnLMDR5D7/qWAtZr3YAA GgCQX7EB5EAzjav+JEQ/gSoVN5ql7v+1ZUZzf794EymiV3GR4L/nvPQr5eX73aWj S0HCn2TucKMKdzVdLX0YkJarmQgUhePBQIc0O+0xHY= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Nvkbb+XmWtpG; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:54:31 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D93733A3836; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:54:30 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBA7sP2I010592; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:54:25 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:54:25 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912100754.nBA7sP2I010592@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: frank@shute.org.uk In-reply-to: <20091210075021.GA77868@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> (message from Frank Shute on Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:50:21 +0000) References: <20091210075021.GA77868@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make delete-old question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:54:33 -0000 > Is there a way to change the Makefile so that they all get deleted > with just one "y" and a return? Or possibly use yes(1) to script it? I often yes | make delete-old Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 08:04:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6D2106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:04:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 288868FC14 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23210 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Dec 2009 08:04:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1260432269; bh=pK61NgwnIZgnR3XEfXXCKVnhlaGzGULxiKIF0bFzxig=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JAIhqjM4taeo07cHIcyDXl5LUY/9mmMm7vJJJi9zjjlfun7U233x2fRF5or8X3uoVKg+ozYyZyMtnU+R6m8p5teZkmuvswVs84409jsYMUEOJBx70RolDdYEGSWk/TL46Kuy2ydNP7H+woQgF0c/FNZwJDUmLNMpzyhYlGfeUuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zuuyA19epIL7aD4tGCGxSo7RwavAAcztQyQxN+r6rhGLLT9wZvi9cP4K2sXvoke14+lzA+hdPUQC6ez+TIt51mAec3f2KZlWuVxJLuZHpX1TzfSJIzVEwu2Ipze0tbLAGPzNDb5geHpT5wKdzMZguMvqdBh/yUJ32izyyJufF40=; Message-ID: <291716.23061.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: q_sUfYMVM1lsF9hNbXJWfN2JYzzwLoMybV8nKYeix1zuduuynp2Pzl6WxS9MTu0dmiRmQZqlE_7.FZQr1_6pUeSDdmHgS_gWg1Up0Sp2Mkgu2pRJd9VjVxbepXWjRchSrl887u3CtHomfOnzT.iqESA0y4jo7p4yHlgsZPamUGawiHWN1VWbS.Lhjn3ehfZDhJy5ndM66CMz1CjmnH3s.KqAQifPGEmh_t7wOVUeSKRfdBbqwWN3aB4OQcDxRD2Kcyg51sFUmvIPOGieLHotMFjtjawxwdyVXL_KPPmYHpHJoUmQHSVBq8uEbT.AldpyMfXrdfVowOG9cTKUBrIgf1oAVVFYgZ4SZ7fcUETY3scR1G0_rEKqmkODTjiTnJL9nlzISBC71oiiIHoyoYdmbrLj009KFO9cRLGHHnVaPHyW9LYtQFmSQ..78FcNIaTS_II- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:04:28 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:04:28 -0800 (PST) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091210043133.3AF5110656DC@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:04:30 -0000 > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:12:45 +0100 > From: Polytropon > Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated > To: Maxim Khitrov > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <20091210031245.3fd58187.freebsd@edvax.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII >=20 > On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:41:40 -0500, Maxim Khitrov=20 > wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Rolf Nielsen > > > wrote: > > > As far as I understand it, it's called > Dangerously Dedicated because it may > > > cause other systems not to recognise the disk. > Consequently, newfs'ing a > > > slice without first partitioning it can hardly be > DD, since that is what > > > other systems do, right? I think I understand: using the DOS compatible partition (slice)=20 table follows the principle of "least surprise." That is why I use=20 "slices" for my dedicated BSD machine. 4 places to put your data are=20 ostensibly better than 1, and I avoid any possible BIOS bugs if the=20 BIOS sees a "non-standard" MBR.=20 > >=20 > > That is correct. That slice will not be bootable, but > you can use it > > to store data. >=20 > Being bootable is a matter of what the MBR boot block > says. In a DD setting, it refers to the first partition > (that's not within a slice), e. g. ad0a. Especially in > a multi-OS setting, the use of slices seems to be > strongly recommended so all operating systems behave > in the required way (due to compatibility reasons, > see "DOS primary partitions"), which limits the number > of slices to 4. I would say a common partition format is REQUIRED in a multi-boot=20 situation. For PC OS's, that means DOS compatibility. =20 > For plain storage, it's not needed to encapsulate the > partition with the file system inside a slice, e. g. >=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ad1=C2=A0 ad1s1=C2=A0 ad1s1e > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 {=C2=A0 =C2=A0 [=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > (/data)=C2=A0 ]=C2=A0 } >=20 > in comparison to >=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ad1=C2=A0 ad1c > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 {=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (/data)=C2=A0 } >=20 > And as it is known, the "c" can be omitted, as in >=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 # mount /dev/ad1 /data >=20 >=20 The Detailed 8.0 release notes don't say anything about bootability: 2.2.5 File Systems =E2=80=9Cdangerously dedicated=E2=80=9D mode for the UFS file sys= tem=20 is no longer supported http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes-detailed.html I also note that the DOS partition (slice) table is not explictly=20 required either: could you use an Apple partiton (slice) table=20 instead?=20 UFS not supporting DD mode struck me as weird BECAUSE it has to work=20 with different architectures.=20 Of course, if you are just storing raw data, you don't always *need*=20 a filesystem.=20 Regards, James Phillips=0A=0A=0A ______________________________________________= ____________________=0AYahoo! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 08:07:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DB7106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DFE8FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so3462788ewy.3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:07:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:organization:to:subject :date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=w/ural3+rRaY4S/0vl0cqVFvvoByn5JuP7tqttmaQ04=; b=F+K9si+eN1qVt3GXtOXmVaGwdhr5xxUrCiqfj7F/kuCAH+2lv6mltblWJmLGXW7uFa BkvDYzKfaG1kO5MQV9lwIiBXkpZ4JatLHGjktnGYor12u7O3rGS/dlMvP0pDL1grvn64 fCc5w9sanEKowEPBPC4EytYFHWOf7XH0lGk28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=wbQU3Nakaf5bXdPWku0dcBItHoqgrxs5Ts0QTSLtXQNuhls73c58dI9liHRGvbojNI kWLSdqEw3rB/fRBW604EM8Vq/XsSHN58V+lmkmNbnXdP/iKCuo6mSTShN1fGDKe2vE5/ p+Zmv/UdyL5eVdFeo2rVGfDBJJ8tzGkVcEX9M= Received: by 10.213.100.217 with SMTP id z25mr2218927ebn.88.1260430737240; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:38:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.dg ([41.0.54.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm1364211eyg.4.2009.12.09.23.38.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:38:56 -0800 (PST) From: David Naylor Organization: Private To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:39:03 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/8.0-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1310394.lN7RTTZLqu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912100939.07116.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Subject: Monolithic vs Modular Kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:07:31 -0000 --nextPart1310394.lN7RTTZLqu Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, What are the pros and cons of building a stripped down kernel and loading a= ll=20 the missing parts via modules (such that you end up with the same=20 functionality as generic kernel) vs having a kernel with all the modules bu= ilt=20 in?=20 Also, is there anyway to detect if there are hardware without drivers (such= as=20 a sound card without any snd_ loaded) and to detect the type of device (e.g= =2E=20 network, usb, sound, graphics)? Lastly, is there any way to determine what 'modules' a kernel is build with? Regards, David --nextPart1310394.lN7RTTZLqu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAksgpZsACgkQUaaFgP9pFrLQ6QCcDOUmNUueK5DKITzE7B0aQ/7m hIwAn0f5k3n9UAc7QyW/JG2Eo71mPNCF =Twpg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1310394.lN7RTTZLqu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 08:19:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4358106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A248FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA923CC75; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:19:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBA8JR5v005760; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:19:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:19:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: James Phillips Message-Id: <20091210091927.680e91e2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <291716.23061.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <20091210043133.3AF5110656DC@hub.freebsd.org> <291716.23061.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:19:31 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:04:28 -0800 (PST), James Phillips wrote: > The Detailed 8.0 release notes don't say anything about bootability: > 2.2.5 File Systems > “dangerously dedicated†mode for the UFS file system > is no longer supported > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes-detailed.html Okay, but what happens when you # newfs /dev/ad1 in the assumption that ad1 will be a pure data disk, and issuing this command will create a partition covering the whole ad1 disk without any slice, and then create an UFS file system in this partition? I cannot imagine that this shouldn't be possible anymore. I'm convinced that abandoning DD for bootable disks is completely understandable, but... Where are the points when problem occur? (I've got no 8.0 installation at hand so I can't check this in a live setting.) > I also note that the DOS partition (slice) table is not explictly > required either: could you use an Apple partiton (slice) table > instead? I don't know how they differ from each other. > Of course, if you are just storing raw data, you don't always *need* > a filesystem. You can of course simply use tar (as the "most universal file system, at least among UNIXes") on a raw disk, e. g. tar cf /lots/of/files /dev/ad1 and retrieve it using tar xf /dev/ad1 But in the common case of a pure data disk, as I mentioned it above, you have a file system (inside a partition), but no slice. In such a case, the fdisk utility will show a sysid 165 partition for the disk, just as if a slice would be present. I'm interested in knowing where this will end. FreeBSD defaulting to FAT file system for maximum compatibility? Don't mind, just a joke. It will of course use NTFS. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 08:45:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56C51065694 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:45:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBBE8FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBA8l9DV057895; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:08 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Nicky Chorley , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:45:36 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, Message: 8 On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Nicky Chorley wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I downloaded the DVD ISO for FreeBSD 8.0 (i386) and verified the MD5 > > checksum before burning. With regards to choosing distributions for > > installation, the handbook says > > > > "If a graphical user interface is desired then a distribution set that > > is preceded by an X should be chosen" > > > > and the help for the "Choose Distributions" section of sysinstall says > > > > "An "X-" prefixed before a distribution set means that the Xorg base > > distribution, libraries, manual pages, servers and a set of default > > fonts will be selected in addition to the set itself..". > > > > However, I do not see any distributions listed that are prefixed with > > "X-". The choices are "All", "Reset", "Developer", "Kern-Developer", > > "User", "Minimal" and "Custom". Even the "Custom" option has nothing > > related to Xorg. > > > > That's correct, these have been removed. Hi Manolis, Look, I'm sorry, but I think this is a huge regression, especially if we're still hoping that people with no prior experience of installing freeBSD, people coming from Linux and such, for essentially or including desktop use, are going to have a rewarding installation experience. > > Is it supposed to be like this (i.e. no distributions containing X are > > presented on installation), or do I need to download other media from > > which to install? Note that I'm not asking how to install X and I > > realise that I can do it post-installation, but I'm just wondering > > whether I've made a mistake with my download or if the documentation > > is out of date. > > > > You've done nothing wrong, the documentation is in need of an update. > Please file a doc-bug PR. > Removing X from the distributions is a right step IMO, these are just > 3rd party packages and it seems confusing if they get installed along > with the base system. I think this is taking base-system-only installation purity to excess. Fine for people installing servers of course, and maybe it will shift more people wanting a GUI environment towards PC-BSD and such if we want to discourage these from using FreeBSD as it is (or maybe, was) but even with my 11 years experience of installing FrreeBSD versions from 2.2 till now, I kept on wondering, how would a newbie fare at this point? > If you wish to install X during initial installation you can still do it > when you get to the packages stage. I believe you will need the DVD for > that. I used the memstick.img (discussed in another thread) and then FTP for installing packages. I've done this before using bootonly CDs, and it has advantages and disadvantages; for me it's been mostly positive. The main advantage is access to all packages. If you know what you want, and which categories they live in, it's great; an hour or so picking and away you go (modulo failures with this FTP site or that). There still exist people with slow net connections and older, slower kit for whom building everything from source would be very tedious. The main disadvantage is - access to all packages :) In the case of X, you and I, developers and most people here know to hunt for the Xorg meta-port. But the naive or new installer knows of no such thing, and could beat around in the huge lists of X software for ages, wondering what's required and what's not to get a desktop going. The previous basic setup menus in sysinstall for X were not only useful; I suspect that they are virtually essential for someone, say, coming from Debian or Ubuntu or such, wanting to try FreeBSD on their system, or the genuine first-time installer of FreeBSD. sysinstall used to assume as little prior knowledge or need to pre-read the Handbook and/or FAQ or follow the lists as possible. Now it's seeming much more firmly targeted at the already experienced user, and I feel that's regressive. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 09:02:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DAA106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC65F8FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so421919fgg.13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:02:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CiRUpwPePapVyas0c81zmcWSxW263o01BpujW1psSgw=; b=keRBfQI60sf2z4YQo+ui13xvaOI+W404p30F5yNeQy1BzrZnhN0GEh5L3/QcOvyS3H 1uw8AicGjkf7F6Oqg5JmhjJvBJlXU3HBBrTtTX0XGh6bvIUPuvrvzF5xzJTtvilaVBxx A+Ag9DZ3KD2/8KWH7Rgt9B1stGgqxv3+mH9Mc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ptec64JSH//OFvOOnaJBBUWYGPx2uUVecfAgLGtSjk3q1eJRKqTPEX1x1zVJovzU0p ewVqIEYM1pA6m/ls8m+L68kD5czELuFSWERgxXbbeKXukUmVfhXPK0td42ATMbUvlxgs s4AOrKyKI20yQ0Pf9So8v/B2DQO+g9tEnoHoo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.29 with SMTP id q29mr1000983hba.127.1260435753565; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:02:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200912100939.07116.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> References: <200912100939.07116.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:02:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: David Naylor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monolithic vs Modular Kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:02:35 -0000 2009/12/10 David Naylor > Hi, > > What are the pros and cons of building a stripped down kernel and loading > all > the missing parts via modules (such that you end up with the same > functionality as generic kernel) vs having a kernel with all the modules > built > in? > > Also, is there anyway to detect if there are hardware without drivers (such > as > a sound card without any snd_ loaded) and to detect the type of device > (e.g. > network, usb, sound, graphics)? > > Lastly, is there any way to determine what 'modules' a kernel is build > with? > > Regards, > > David > kldstat -v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 09:09:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD8E106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-15.bnguk.net (atmail-15.bnguk.net [80.74.253.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E8B8FC14 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-15.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NIf1i-0003bg-EX; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:09:34 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 60E984AC1B; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:09:32 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:09:32 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Rolf G Nielsen Message-ID: <20091210090932.GA78056@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Rolf G Nielsen , FreeBSD Questions References: <20091210075021.GA77868@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B20A92B.3070304@lazlarlyricon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B20A92B.3070304@lazlarlyricon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: make delete-old question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:09:51 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:54:19AM +0100, Rolf G Nielsen wrote: > > Frank Shute wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Successfully upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0 but had my usual problem when > >jumping major versions with the make delete-old target. > > > >The problem being that it asks me to confirm deletion of each lib/file > >with a "y" and a return. I've found that I never say "n" to any > >deletion and it becomes very tedious to hammer at the keyboard for > >hundreds of libs/files. > > > >Is there a way to change the Makefile so that they all get deleted > >with just one "y" and a return? Or possibly use yes(1) to script it? > > > >TIA. > > > >Regards, > > > > yes | make delete-old Thanks Rolf, I hoped it would be something simple. Now I'll update my laptop. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 09:12:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B34D1065693 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0CC8FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBA9CWhU001236 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:12:39 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nBA9CWhU001236 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260436359; bh=zJKHKD0Krd3cBKG1eHHyduRZPaHIqUJmfvHc5JNbHfI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B20BB7A.7050502@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2010=20Dec=202009=2009:12:26=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091202)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20David=20Naylor=20|CC:=2 0freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Monolithic=20vs=20 Modular=20Kernel?|References:=20<200912100939.07116.naylor.b.david @gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<200912100939.07116.naylor.b.david@gmai l.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.7|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Conte nt-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20prot ocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"-------- ----enig8592FF8EC37D1930B0DE3125"; b=R+ZKpde9yzL291QceOYZk18EnbT3i3NvnM6VJYE5ob8rPhr3+Ler+unuW5d4K6CTM orAuMhc7oFZtdsbBqsd/gWVTLpsJhm1xtPBK2jTlOe/Z0VigEiyoIFNdfWqDDOIAQM 0vGfxVNh21m+GKktbQ5MUlivP1CUJsC784XIBNjw= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4] claimed to be significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net Message-ID: <4B20BB7A.7050502@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:12:26 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Naylor References: <200912100939.07116.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200912100939.07116.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8592FF8EC37D1930B0DE3125" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monolithic vs Modular Kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:12:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8592FF8EC37D1930B0DE3125 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Naylor wrote: > Hi, >=20 > What are the pros and cons of building a stripped down kernel and loadi= ng all=20 > the missing parts via modules (such that you end up with the same=20 > functionality as generic kernel) vs having a kernel with all the module= s built=20 > in?=20 Flexibility mainly. The default kernel is pretty highly modularized nowa= days, meaning that it doesn't need to be enormous but can still support most ha= rdware encountered in the field. Even so, it still contains some wired-in code = to=20 support certain classes of functionality that will not be necessary on al= l=20 systems. =20 In general, there's not a huge benefit compared to the inconvenience to b= e gained=20 from aggressively stripping down your kernel nowadays, unless you have a = particular need for a really minimal system. > Also, is there anyway to detect if there are hardware without drivers (= such as=20 > a sound card without any snd_ loaded) and to detect the type of device = (e.g.=20 > network, usb, sound, graphics)? Running: # pciconf -lv will show up any devices on the PCI busses without any attached drivers. Similarly usbconfig(8) will tell you all about attached USB busses and de= vices. > Lastly, is there any way to determine what 'modules' a kernel is build = with? Examine the kernel configuration file. If you don't have access to this,= you might be able to extract it from the kernel image if it has been built wi= th options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE however, AFAIK this isn't the default for GENERIC kernels.=20 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK --------------enig8592FF8EC37D1930B0DE3125 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksgu38ACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+VaMuACgkdoEiHCIlgFRRk172olfMJUI CYIAnAn1rN3d+zxHZSbfLIvQR8A7OSzX =SGF7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8592FF8EC37D1930B0DE3125-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 09:18:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B937D106568D for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:18:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734F98FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0639B3CF6A; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:18:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBA9IFY5005916; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:18:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:18:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ian Smith Message-Id: <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Manolis Kiagias , Nicky Chorley , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:18:18 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:08 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, Message: 8 > On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Removing X from the distributions is a right step IMO, these are just > > 3rd party packages and it seems confusing if they get installed along > > with the base system. > > I think this is taking base-system-only installation purity to excess. Imagine the following situation: A user wants to run Linux applications on FreeBSD. He selects the Linux ABI service for startup via sysinstall. The corresponding _enable setting will be added to rc.conf, and - surprise! - a package will be installed. The same thing happens when a user installs X. Of course, X is not part of the base system, but in the same way that sysinstall (down)loads and installs packages when a specific service is selected, it should act the same way for X. I know that X has become a problematic and very complex thing, not just a few packages (as it was in the past with XFree86). X should be installabe in a manner made easy, just like the Linux ABI. > In the case of X, > you and I, developers and most people here know to hunt for the Xorg > meta-port. The average user intending to run a desktop system won't be happy with compiling stuff... > But the naive or new installer knows of no such thing, and > could beat around in the huge lists of X software for ages, wondering > what's required and what's not to get a desktop going. Therefore, I always liked the choice for X in sysinstall: It basically installed all the components to get X up and running. No big trouble getting the correct xorg-driver-* packages, installing and removing them, the xorg-input-* packages with the same story... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 10:18:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85417106568D; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BB18FC1C; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBAAKRO9061988; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:20:27 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:20:27 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Randi Harper In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091210203143.H12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20091128113000.BBDF410656E6@hub.freebsd.org> <20091205212857.H34611@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-151891006-1260440427=:12012" Cc: "Derek \(freebsd lists\)" <482254ac@razorfever.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick fixit - No USB devices found! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:18:53 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-151891006-1260440427=:12012 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Randi Harper wrote: > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 286, Issue 12, Message 7 > > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:51:50 -0800 Randi Harper wrote: > >  > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Derek (freebsd lists) <482254ac@razorfever.net> wrote: [..] > > I made the memstick.img by dd as per the release page on my Thinkpad > > T23.  It only sports USB 1.0 ports, and while I was confident of the dd > > (which took ~25m at ~600kB/s), I didn't really expect a 2002 laptop to > > boot from the image, but on seeing the USB stick show up in its BIOS and > > promoting it in the disk boot order, it did!  Never underestimate IBM .. [..] > > So .. booted into sysinstall, fdisk and label ad0s4, leave boot0 as was, > > committed that much after two earlier attempts failed due to the below, > > quit to reboot, checked the labelling, redid the mount points, all ok. > > > > Picked pretty much all distributions from custom install, then of course > > had to select media.  Picked USB - and got about what Derek did, no USB > > disk found. > > > > Very long story short: googled for ages and found a forum thread about > > this very problem, in which someone suggested Options / Rescan Devices > > then trying again.  The OP there said it didn't work for him, but it > > sure did for me!  After knowing that, the install went pretty smoothly, > > modulo not getting fc-10 to install by FTP, but that's another issue.. > > > > And just now, prompted by this thread I tried selecting Fixit, to again > > get what Derek did.  And again, Options / Rescan Devices fixed it for > > me.  Maybe it will for Derek and/or maybe provide another clue?  Maybe > > sysinstall could try a device rescan itself in that circumstance? > > This is a known issue. It would be possible to write in a hack to fix > this problem that would be fairly quick to implement, but sysinstall > already has one too many bandaids in place. I'd rather take a little > bit of extra time and fix the underlying problem, especially since > there is this workaround (forcing a device rescan) that seems to work > for users in the meanwhile. At best it's an 'unknown known' :) Except for this present thread, my 'googling for ages' found nothing in FreeBSD lists about it. I was so close to giving up until I could go somewhere to burn a DVD, by then. I appreciate your disinclination to extend that message in sysinstall, it's been "about to die" for so long it's no longer funny, still it would have saved me half a day, and I'm sure I won't be the last person to run into this. I guess I should file a PR with a patch .. > sysinstall was written back in the good 'ol days of pre-devfs and > hasn't been updated much since. When it first runs, it does a device > scan - that is, there's this really ugly data structure of all > possible devices and a description/limit for each. So, just for > example (and I'm not checking the code, so this value is probably > wrong), say there's an entry for 'fxp' that is a type network with a > limit of 16 devices - it's going to poke the system looking for fxp0, > fxp1, ..., fxp15. It's doing this for every single network card, all > possible disk devices, everything. Back in the day when computers were > slower, this process could take a while, so it only happened once > unless the user selected it again. But now, a rescan on my T23 was quite fast, and it's only a P3 1133MHz. > Needless to say, this is extremely inefficient (sysinstall code has to > be changed any time a new driver is added, too!) and there's a lot of > better ways to do this. It's very easy to pull a list of network > cards, disks, etc, but the work in moving away from that ugly data > structure is no small job. Right now, much of my time is being taken > up in trying to get gpt support into sysinstall, but getting rid of > that data structure is high in my priority list, especially since > there's a workaround. Old/cheap USB flash sticks seem to be the main > offender, as they are slow to be recognized/probed, and sysinstall has > already finished it's device scan by then. Point taken, but an unknown workaround is no use to the newbie installer (see my prior whinge to Manolis re the X installation menu going away) Yes, I was using an older 1GB Shintaro stick, the only one on hand, on a machine using USB 1.0 only, but I doubt I'll be the only one; sysinstall has always striven to work with other than just top-range newer kit. I do know how hard it is for developers to remember what mortals don't know, or to imagine why folks might not be running more recent gear :) > > While I'm at it .. selecting 'Holographic Shell', while in that state at > > least, brings up a shell that (perhaps due to stick not being mounted?) > > has no ls command, making navigation difficult :)  pwd works, set works, > > but no ls.  Later (from debug msgs on vty1) I saw that I'd been perhaps > > in /stand and only much later found that find worked and served as ls .. > > This is normal. That's running off of the memory disk. echo * also > works to list files. The memory disk needs to stay fairly small in > size, so it has only a few programs, mostly stuff that is used by > sysinstall. echo *, now why didn't I think of that :) Yeah, I spent a few hours today browsing the src/release stuff. The annotated Makefile alone is a potted history of FreeBSD, and seeing the strange mix of floppies through CDs to DVD is interesting, especially when the old so constrains the new with perhaps excessive minimalism. > > One more thing, while I remember .. seeing the USB stick is here ad0a, > > isn't that the old 'dangerously dedicated mode' now dropped from 8.0? > > Well... yes. But this works. DD mode still works sometimes, but it's > easier to say "not supported" than "only in these circumstances". > FWIW, I don't expect DD mode to be gone forever. There were changes > made outside of sysinstall that aren't compatible with the way that > sysinstall (specifically, libdisk) did things. I think. It's > complicated, not something I'm entirely sure about, and I > unfortunately can't do anything about other than moving away from > libdisk to libgeom. But this won't fix prior installations. I'm hoping > that those working on geom can come up with a solution for existing DD > installs. Fair enough, it's a big shift. I appreciate your detailed explanations. > > And to be a real pest with questions, where in CVS do I find the script > > or whatever makes memstick.img in the first place? > > It's part of the make release process. You really don't want to touch > that. I don't even want to touch that. When I'm testing out > sysinstall, I take an existing memstick and modify it as opposed to > building an entirely new one. I don't want to touch that, not at least till (if ever) I know exactly what's going on there - but I do want to know how such images are made. Can you share what arguments to make release are used, or what other steps are needed to duplicate it? I'm wondering about a 4GB image say, but perhaps this would be a question better posed in -stable? cheers, Ian --0-151891006-1260440427=:12012-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 10:37:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17AF10656A3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from mx1.webtent.net (mx1.webtent.net [208.38.145.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E88F8FC1F for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Transport) with ESMTP id 0874584ADD for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:37:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63712-02-3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:37:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (media.rfitz.com [72.64.244.53]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Transport) with ESMTP id 37C8A84B34 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:41:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B206DFA.8050707@webtent.net> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:41:46 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.2a Subject: mountroot prompt after hint.apic.0.disabled=1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:37:34 -0000 Don't know if that loader.conf change affected this server, I disabled APIC in loader.conf after finding it may be responsible for a slow clock on this VMware guest FreeBSD install. I rebooted for the changes to take affect and it goes now to a mountroot prompt, can't seem to load the root partition. I type ? at the prompt and it does not list anything after 'List of GEOM managed disk devices'. Can anyone suggest how I can fix this problem? Thanks, Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 10:56:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE701065672 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.trandov@tcebank.com) Received: from mail.tcebank.com (mx.tcebank.com [213.222.51.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B428FC17 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pop3.tcebank.com [127.0.0.20]) by mail.tcebank.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242A19E7DFF for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:29:10 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: SpamShield at tcebank.com Received: from mail.tcebank.com ([127.0.0.20]) by localhost (pop3.tcebank.com [127.0.0.20]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id qCBMlnXIYsds for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:29:10 +0200 (EET) From: "Dimitar Trandov" To: Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:36:19 +0200 Organization: Tokuda Bank Plc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acp5cqAV4weT6qJVQTOqwBrBKvYaZg== Subject: How to upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:56:39 -0000 Hi list, Yesterday I decided to upgrade my server, which currently running 7.1rel. p8. Do I have to first upgrade to 7.2 release and then to 8.0, or instead of this, directly do a safe step to 8.0 release ? Thanks in advance Dimitar, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 11:21:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532EF106568D for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFE28FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D5A0D34D453; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:21:08 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:21:08 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.4; amd64; ; ) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912101121.08760.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Robert Huff , Olivier Nicole , usleepless@gmail.com Subject: CUPS & laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network - one remaining problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:21:14 -0000 Hi All Thank you everyone for your help as a result of combined efforts I have finally succeeded in getting cups the server to communicate with the printer and print. HOWEVER!! One minor niggling problem remains. I cannot communicate with the cups management interface on http://localhost:631 due to password authentication failure. I try logging in as 'root' with correct root password in the login dialogue. I altered the loglevel to debug and the output is at the end of the email. It seems as though the cupsd is not receiving the input (probably due to some config error on my part!). I have tried using a number of different browsers but get the same result. Prior to testing I did: dns1# lppasswd -g wheel -a root The standard cups error log showed cupsdAuthorize: pam_start() returned 4 (system error)! So I raised the loglevel to debug and got the results shown further down. All the configuration has been done manually. I restarted cupsd with: dns1# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd restart Stopping cupsd. Starting cupsd. The HP JetDirect Configuration report includes the following info: _______________________________ Model Number: J4169A Firmware Version: L.20.24 Under TCP/IP we have: Hostname: [mydevice] Domain Name: [my_domain].[my_tld] # The following all show correct entries: Ip Address: Subnet Mask: Default Gateway: DNS Server: __________________________________ End of jetDirect config info: ____________________________________ The beast is printing. ____________________________________________ Cups is running: dns1# ps -aux |grep cupsd root 40253 0.0 0.1 27956 5332 ?? Is 1:01PM 0:00.02 /usr/local/sbin/cupsd -C /usr/local/etc/cups/cupsd.conf dns1# cat /usr/local/etc/cups/cupsd.conf # # "$Id: cupsd.conf.in 8805 2009-08-31 16:34:06Z mike $" # # Sample configuration file for the CUPS scheduler. See "man cupsd.conf" for a # complete description of this file. # # Log general information in error_log - change "warn" to "debug" # for troubleshooting... LogLevel warn # Administrator user group... SystemGroup wheel # Only listen for connections from the local machine. Listen localhost:631 Listen /var/run/cups.sock # Show shared printers on the local network. Browsing On BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow all BrowseLocalProtocols CUPS # Default authentication type, when authentication is required... DefaultAuthType Basic # Restrict access to the server... Order Deny, Allow Deny from All Allow from 127.0.0.1 Allow from 62.49.197.50 # Restrict access to the admin pages... AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order Deny, Allow Deny from All Allow from 127.0.0.1 Allow from 62.49.197.50 # Restrict access to configuration files... AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order Deny, Allow Deny from All Allow from 127.0.0.1 Allow from 62.49.197.50 Order allow,deny # Set the default printer/job policies... # Job-related operations must be done by the owner or an administrator... Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow # All administration operations require an administrator to authenticate... AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order deny,allow # All printer operations require a printer operator to authenticate... AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order deny,allow # Only the owner or an administrator can cancel or authenticate a job... Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow Order deny,allow # Set the authenticated printer/job policies... # Job-related operations must be done by the owner or an administrator... AuthType Default Order deny,allow AuthType Default Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow # All administration operations require an administrator to authenticate... AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order deny,allow # All printer operations require a printer operator to authenticate... AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order deny,allow # Only the owner or an administrator can cancel or authenticate a job... AuthType Default Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow Order deny,allow # # End of "$Id: cupsd.conf.in 8805 2009-08-31 16:34:06Z mike $". # dns1# Here is the output from /cups/error_log with loglevel changed to debug # RESTART CUPS HERE:I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Scheduler shutting down normally. D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Discarding unused server-stopped event... D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] cupsdDeregisterPrinter(p=0x801f78800(LaserJet-2200), removeit=1) X [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] kevent() returned Bad file descriptor I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Saving job cache file "/var/cache/cups/job.cache"... I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Listening to ::1:631 (IPv6) I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 (IPv4) I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Listening to /var/run/cups.sock (Domain) D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] cupsdDenyIP(loc=0x801f800a0(/), address=0:0:0:0, netmask=0:0:0:0) D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] cupsdDenyIP(loc=0x801f80100(/admin), address=0:0:0:0, netmask=0:0:0:0) D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] cupsdDenyIP(loc=0x801f80160(/admin/conf), address=0:0:0:0, netmask=0:0:0:0) I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Remote access is disabled. D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Added auto ServerAlias dns1.vizion2000.net D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Added auto ServerAlias dns1 I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Loaded configuration file "/usr/local/etc/cups/cupsd.conf" I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Using default TempDir of /var/spool/cups/tmp... I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Configured for up to 100 clients. I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Allowing up to 100 client connections per host. I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Using policy "default" as the default! I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Full reload is required. I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Loaded MIME database from "/usr/local/share/cups/mime" and "/usr/local/etc/cups": 35 types, 40 filters... D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Loading printer LaserJet-2200... D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] load_ppd: Loading /var/cache/cups/LaserJet-2200.ipp... D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] cupsdRegisterPrinter(p=0x801f78800(LaserJet-2200)) D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] load_ppd: Loading /var/cache/cups/LaserJet-2200.ipp... D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] cupsdRegisterPrinter(p=0x801f78800(LaserJet-2200)) I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Loading job cache file "/var/cache/cups/job.cache"... D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] [Job 5] Loading from cache... D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] [Job 6] Loading from cache... D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] [Job 7] Loading from cache... I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Full reload complete. I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Cleaning out old temporary files in "/var/spool/cups/tmp"... I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Listening to ::1:631 on fd 6... I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 on fd 7... I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Listening to /var/run/cups.sock on fd 8... I [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Resuming new connection processing... D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] cupsdRegisterPrinter(p=0x801f78800(LaserJet-2200)) D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:07 +0000] Discarding unused server-started event... D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:08 +0000] Report: clients=0 D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:08 +0000] Report: jobs=3 D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:08 +0000] Report: jobs-active=0 D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:08 +0000] Report: printers=1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:08 +0000] Report: printers-implicit=0 D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:08 +0000] Report: stringpool-string-count=266 D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:08 +0000] Report: stringpool-alloc-bytes=6352 D [10/Dec/2009:11:06:08 +0000] Report: stringpool-total-bytes=6088 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAcceptClient: 12 from localhost:631 (IPv4) D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] Report: clients=1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] Report: jobs=3 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] Report: jobs-active=0 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] Report: printers=1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] Report: printers-implicit=0 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] Report: stringpool-string-count=266 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] Report: stringpool-alloc-bytes=6352 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] Report: stringpool-total-bytes=6088 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 12 GET / HTTP/1.1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Not busy D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 12 GET /cups.css HTTP/1.1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Not busy D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 12 GET /images/left.gif HTTP/1.1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAcceptClient: 14 from localhost:631 (IPv4) D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Not busy D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAcceptClient: 13 from localhost:631 (IPv4) D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 14 GET /images/sel.gif HTTP/1.1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAcceptClient: 16 from localhost:631 (IPv4) D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 13 GET /images/cups-icon.png HTTP/1.1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAcceptClient: 15 from localhost:631 (IPv4) D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 16 GET /images/right.gif HTTP/1.1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 15 GET /images/unsel.gif HTTP/1.1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:40 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Not busy D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:46 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 15 GET /admin HTTP/1.1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:46 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:46 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:46 +0000] cupsdIsAuthorized: username="" D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:46 +0000] cupsdSendHeader: 15 WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="CUPS", trc="y" D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:46 +0000] cupsdCloseClient: 15 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:46 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Not busy D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:59 +0000] cupsdReadClient: 16 GET /admin HTTP/1.1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:59 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients E [10/Dec/2009:11:08:59 +0000] cupsdAuthorize: pam_start() returned 4 (system error)! D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:59 +0000] cupsdIsAuthorized: username="" D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:59 +0000] cupsdSendHeader: 16 WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="CUPS", trc="y" D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:59 +0000] cupsdCloseClient: 16 D [10/Dec/2009:11:08:59 +0000] cupsdSetBusyState: Not busy D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] Closing client 12 after 300 seconds of inactivity... D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] cupsdCloseClient: 12 D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] Closing client 14 after 300 seconds of inactivity... D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] cupsdCloseClient: 14 D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] Closing client 13 after 300 seconds of inactivity... D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] cupsdCloseClient: 13 D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] Report: clients=0 D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] Report: jobs=3 D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] Report: jobs-active=0 D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] Report: printers=1 D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] Report: printers-implicit=0 D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] Report: stringpool-string-count=266 D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] Report: stringpool-alloc-bytes=6352 D [10/Dec/2009:11:13:44 +0000] Report: stringpool-total-bytes=6088 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 13:17:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0341065670 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9FE8FC17 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4468741.home.otenet.gr [94.71.111.245]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id nBADH154004560; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:17:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4B20F4CD.8060009@otenet.gr> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:17:01 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Nicky Chorley , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:17:04 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, Message: 8 > On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > > > > > However, I do not see any distributions listed that are prefixed with > > > "X-". The choices are "All", "Reset", "Developer", "Kern-Developer", > > > "User", "Minimal" and "Custom". Even the "Custom" option has nothing > > > related to Xorg. > > > > > > > That's correct, these have been removed. > > Hi Manolis, > > Look, I'm sorry, but I think this is a huge regression, especially if > we're still hoping that people with no prior experience of installing > freeBSD, people coming from Linux and such, for essentially or including > desktop use, are going to have a rewarding installation experience. > > > > Is it supposed to be like this (i.e. no distributions containing X are > > > presented on installation), or do I need to download other media from > > > which to install? Note that I'm not asking how to install X and I > > > realise that I can do it post-installation, but I'm just wondering > > > whether I've made a mistake with my download or if the documentation > > > is out of date. > > > > > > > You've done nothing wrong, the documentation is in need of an update. > > Please file a doc-bug PR. > > Removing X from the distributions is a right step IMO, these are just > > 3rd party packages and it seems confusing if they get installed along > > with the base system. > > I think this is taking base-system-only installation purity to excess. > > On the other hand, I feel it is confusing when you find yourself essentially selecting packages in the menus for the base-system components. The DVD *still* has the packages, and you are still asked if you wish to install any. Xorg is just one click away - select the meta-package and the entire thing goes in. > Fine for people installing servers of course, and maybe it will shift > more people wanting a GUI environment towards PC-BSD and such if we want > to discourage these from using FreeBSD as it is (or maybe, was) but even > with my 11 years experience of installing FrreeBSD versions from 2.2 > till now, I kept on wondering, how would a newbie fare at this point? > > Having shown the FreeBSD installation to people only acquainted with Windows or Ubuntu, I always get the same reaction: Completely disheartening, confusing, complex. You need to know too many things and when everything is done right, you are just rewarded with a console login. This is a fact: FreeBSD is not for the faint of heart, and definitely not for someone who wants a desktop in five minutes. You have to get past the initial shock and devote a lot of time to learn your way around the system. This requires considerable effort and there are lots of people who have neither the time nor the inclination to dig deep into an OS - they just want a working desktop. IMHO an extra click for the Xorg is not that much important in the grand scheme of things. I think it would be best if beginners are informed beforehand that they really need to study: you will not get a working desktop FreeBSD 'by chance' or because someone else configured the defaults for you and you just restored an image to your hard drive (as I understand, this is what most desktop-oriented Linux distros do these days) Now if we delve deeper into this we are going to hit philosophical questions like "Do we want ignorant users?" "Is our setup procedure so discouraging that even would-be-knowledgeable users abandon the system early?" "Should we provide an Ubuntu-like BSD install?" I can live with sysinstall myself, although I don't really like it. There are numerous problems with it (and we had a long thread in the past about it, so I am not going to repeat myself) with the added fact that as the system progresses to new features (journaling, ZFS, gpart ...) sysinstall "stands still" and does not provide any way to use them during initial setup. I've introduced more than a few beginners to FreeBSD. I always warn them beforehand what to expect - I only continue with those who are prepared to study the handbook and a few (hundred...) pages of my introductory notes. All of them are now happy, satisfied users. But none expected to have a working desktop in five minutes. There are other distributions for that (PC-BSD, Ubuntu) > > If you wish to install X during initial installation you can still do it > > when you get to the packages stage. I believe you will need the DVD for > > that. > > I used the memstick.img (discussed in another thread) and then FTP for > installing packages. I've done this before using bootonly CDs, and it > has advantages and disadvantages; for me it's been mostly positive. > > The main advantage is access to all packages. If you know what you > want, and which categories they live in, it's great; an hour or so > picking and away you go (modulo failures with this FTP site or that). > There still exist people with slow net connections and older, slower > kit for whom building everything from source would be very tedious. > > The main disadvantage is - access to all packages :) In the case of X, > you and I, developers and most people here know to hunt for the Xorg > meta-port. But the naive or new installer knows of no such thing, and > could beat around in the huge lists of X software for ages, wondering > what's required and what's not to get a desktop going. > True. So I guess we really need a "Your first FreeBSD Desktop" article to point to for first time installers. X is just tip of the iceberg here, consider these: - How to setup xorg.conf, hal? - What packages do I need for {GNOME,KDE,XFCE,You-Name-It-WM}? - What is .xinitrc? How am I going to setup my login manager? - Where is bash? Why are my locale settings wrong? - Got into X finally, why isn't my flash drive automounted? - ... All this info and more is available in the Handbook, but it is not intended to be read as a sequential setup guide. There are far more discouraging things even after you get X installed. > The previous basic setup menus in sysinstall for X were not only useful; > I suspect that they are virtually essential for someone, say, coming > from Debian or Ubuntu or such, wanting to try FreeBSD on their system, > or the genuine first-time installer of FreeBSD. sysinstall used to > assume as little prior knowledge or need to pre-read the Handbook and/or > FAQ or follow the lists as possible. Now it's seeming much more firmly > targeted at the already experienced user, and I feel that's regressive. > > cheers, Ian > > Quite frankly, I don't believe sysinstall has gotten any worse. But there are so many easy installers out there for 5 minute setups, that more and more users already come with the fixed mindset "it will install in 5 minutes, I won't have to read anything" which clearly won't work. But I believe PC-BSD fills the gap for them and it is getting better all the time. Apologies for the long post :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 13:22:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADB9106568B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B068FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4468741.home.otenet.gr [94.71.111.245]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id nBADMJqs011957; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:22:20 +0200 Message-ID: <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:22:19 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Nicky Chorley , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:22:24 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:08 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > >> In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, Message: 8 >> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> > Removing X from the distributions is a right step IMO, these are just >> > 3rd party packages and it seems confusing if they get installed along >> > with the base system. >> >> I think this is taking base-system-only installation purity to excess. >> > > Imagine the following situation: A user wants to run Linux > applications on FreeBSD. He selects the Linux ABI service > for startup via sysinstall. The corresponding _enable setting > will be added to rc.conf, and - surprise! - a package will > be installed. > > The same thing happens when a user installs X. Of course, X > is not part of the base system, but in the same way that > sysinstall (down)loads and installs packages when a specific > service is selected, it should act the same way for X. > I know that X has become a problematic and very complex > thing, not just a few packages (as it was in the past > with XFree86). > > X should be installabe in a manner made easy, just like > the Linux ABI. > > > > >> In the case of X, >> you and I, developers and most people here know to hunt for the Xorg >> meta-port. >> > > The average user intending to run a desktop system won't > be happy with compiling stuff... > > Exactly. Most desktop users want a working system in the minimum of time (Can't blame them for that). Even with packages, we cannot beat an image-based distro, esp. since it will also provide all essential default settings. > > >> But the naive or new installer knows of no such thing, and >> could beat around in the huge lists of X software for ages, wondering >> what's required and what's not to get a desktop going. >> > > Therefore, I always liked the choice for X in sysinstall: It > basically installed all the components to get X up and running. > No big trouble getting the correct xorg-driver-* packages, > installing and removing them, the xorg-input-* packages with > the same story... > > > There is an X.org meta-package that installs everything though. It is just a problem with the beginner not knowing what to select. This can be tackled in two ways IMO, first is by creating a "First time FreeBSD desktop installer" type article, second would be adding a menu choice in sysinstall "Install a standard X desktop {GNOME,KDE}". I must admit I much prefer the first solution. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 14:01:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5AD106568B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rloefgren@forethought.net) Received: from mzpi5.forethought.net (mzpi5.forethought.net [216.241.36.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF498FC2D for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 216-241-45-95.static.forethought.net ([216.241.45.95] helo=auden.jmla.com) by mz3.forethought.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NIjaB-0002U6-MQ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:01:27 -0700 Message-ID: <4B20FF37.8020008@forethought.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:01:27 -0700 From: Reed Loefgren User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Nicky Chorley , Polytropon , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:01:41 -0000 > > Exactly. Most desktop users want a working system in the minimum of time > (Can't blame them for that). > Even with packages, we cannot beat an image-based distro, esp. since it > will also provide all essential default settings. > > > If I might butt in: If the user-to-be wants a working system in 5 minutes could there be a link on the FreeBSD homepage itself directing them to PC-BSD (or similar) .ISOs? Perhaps with an addendum that, while they can download and install FreeBSD 'straight up, no chaser' using an image from the FreeBSD page, it *isn't* going to be 5 minutes and perhaps a derivative version might be their best bet. Just a thought, r From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 14:28:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77A1106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackoroses@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471CC8FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so6178079bwz.3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:28:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CGj40sShECPg0S8F6VONzBrkhcZtFwpcdhAPMZSja/s=; b=ARI0S+6ibs0xQRjUCF8J6QAgK28x8qx0dP02wv0AJH6BmRF0uL6eufvPVLKcwBbv2L 26k3IuRsRX2KCxZK9FQcw+j13A0Eq1MfgfR9yMOrZ/9f0bVfV6RYPMFOjj9RtZtvYnjq Bly/WD3hNNxAr3gQGIPLfP6khJacPgRUkXUvw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=ntl1XgKIh+ClLPtSF0UOE9NMyQIrfVQ/pSS5iI7bOmv6M/EI1Bngvzo8xkZGTQKRGG +9RD0AKEDVGBpYj95k5oVpeqSYfppj1k8LEERfKdqLBqI9cCV5wwCIcsUpK71S4h8elW HdJ3K+7tINWFigNbq1ah5jSSJkz9otyQr4R4c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.78.22 with SMTP id f22mr3922681mul.14.1260453464822; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:57:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:57:44 -0500 Message-ID: <1d001f850912100557n7cd73b64g61e130e0148bb434@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike L To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jackoroses@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:28:05 -0000 all I gotta say is I just spent 3 days compiling gnome2 for fbsd.. It shouldn't take that long or be that hard/complicated. Most of it was stupid crap that I would of thought should of been taken care of by now. Applications complaining about which version of python is installed, complaining about needing newer versions of this or that and stopping the process. Than off to find the proper port to install (and having to use FORCE PKG REGISTER) to appease the original install. Back to the gnome install let it run again until the next application configuration screen. You can't just do a make config in the meta port for the entire process.. That would be too easy.. Last time I did a Xorg installed I just ended up doing a pkg_add because I grew tired of the problems I kept having with ports griping about this and that being outdated or whatever. This time I wanted to see the process through and figure I might learn a thing or two. I digress though... My intention with fbsd wasn't for a desktop though; but why install linux to get a feel for X(org) when we can do it on fbsd? Yet why should it feel like I'm a circus poodle trying to make it work? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:08 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith < > smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote: > > > >> In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, Message: 8 > >> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias > wrote: > >> > Removing X from the distributions is a right step IMO, these are just > >> > 3rd party packages and it seems confusing if they get installed along > >> > with the base system. > >> > >> I think this is taking base-system-only installation purity to excess. > >> > > > > Imagine the following situation: A user wants to run Linux > > applications on FreeBSD. He selects the Linux ABI service > > for startup via sysinstall. The corresponding _enable setting > > will be added to rc.conf, and - surprise! - a package will > > be installed. > > > > The same thing happens when a user installs X. Of course, X > > is not part of the base system, but in the same way that > > sysinstall (down)loads and installs packages when a specific > > service is selected, it should act the same way for X. > > I know that X has become a problematic and very complex > > thing, not just a few packages (as it was in the past > > with XFree86). > > > > X should be installabe in a manner made easy, just like > > the Linux ABI. > > > > > > > > > >> In the case of X, > >> you and I, developers and most people here know to hunt for the Xorg > >> meta-port. > >> > > > > The average user intending to run a desktop system won't > > be happy with compiling stuff... > > > > > > Exactly. Most desktop users want a working system in the minimum of time > (Can't blame them for that). > Even with packages, we cannot beat an image-based distro, esp. since it > will also provide all essential default settings. > > > > > > >> But the naive or new installer knows of no such thing, and > >> could beat around in the huge lists of X software for ages, wondering > >> what's required and what's not to get a desktop going. > >> > > > > Therefore, I always liked the choice for X in sysinstall: It > > basically installed all the components to get X up and running. > > No big trouble getting the correct xorg-driver-* packages, > > installing and removing them, the xorg-input-* packages with > > the same story... > > > > > > > There is an X.org meta-package that installs everything though. It is > just a problem with the beginner not knowing what to select. This can be > tackled in two ways IMO, first is by creating a "First time FreeBSD > desktop installer" type article, second would be adding a menu choice in > sysinstall "Install a standard X desktop {GNOME,KDE}". I must admit I > much prefer the first solution. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 14:24:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959AB106568D for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF428FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so531602fgg.13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:24:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VcQmYI87G8+2FdaZAVDtkyrZbBtXpiYaP9/LJLhi18M=; b=XYiZYhwsSa9U2r1RO/iojzS/haqelzvFrOMOnnAab7/HYliXIU0negg/ZK5xA+oWli 6Mm2lZjmpFTKdZ9zlpVaKh6M191SXODdJ3bRGPCeeAEjEw9/UbRsmY8UBbIYI5EIo4w5 NSOXQYd+qA/MGShgS8c+wTV/03Z7dhGMBoZvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=N4x6HMRlRruTm7yOg6XsuR+MfzVzeYnG9eeq3LVPZlWeHKHXxtk/eYaHzKn/0qMC9h tP9p/m0ctd1p1AtnuFiGPoP6F0KQvwJdYrw+RSmOs8Yd+/xuRoH0DUchzQ9mKvg+wXqG Dg6ODCKzSbUYVfhc8hkp9moozerFoGi/P6lkk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.100 with SMTP id n36mr2hba.19.1260455040408; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:24:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B20FF37.8020008@forethought.net> References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> <4B20FF37.8020008@forethought.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:24:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Reed Loefgren X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:30:41 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Manolis Kiagias , Nicky Chorley , Polytropon , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:24:02 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Reed Loefgren wrote: > > >> Exactly. Most desktop users want a working system in the minimum of time >> (Can't blame them for that). >> Even with packages, we cannot beat an image-based distro, esp. since it >> will also provide all essential default settings. >> >> >> >> > If I might butt in: If the user-to-be wants a working system in 5 minutes > could there be a link on the FreeBSD homepage itself directing them to > PC-BSD (or similar) .ISOs? Perhaps with an addendum that, while they can > download and install FreeBSD 'straight up, no chaser' using an image from > the FreeBSD page, it *isn't* going to be 5 minutes and perhaps a derivative > version might be their best bet. > > Just a thought, > > > r > After trying installation of FreeBSD 8.0 Release ( before RCs ) without success ( Gnome : Some menu elements are not working , for example shutdown , it is becoming necessary to open a terminal and explicitly write shutdown -p now , it is not possible to every thing by terminal or GUI elements ) , ( KDE4 : Konsole not working because after a short show of terminal window , it is disappearing , it is not possible to do every thing without Konsole ) , ( XFCE - It is becoming rock solid due to key board insensitivity , on the same computer many operating systems are working , from FreeBSD to many Linux distributions ) . After those attempts , I have installed DesktopBSD 1.7 . I can say that it is a WONDERFUL FreeBSD distribution based on FreeBSD 7.2 and KDE4 where FreeBSD 7.2 from www.FreeBSD.org can not be compared with its beatiness . Now , I am waiting FreeBSD 8.x from www.FreeBSD.org , where x > 0 , with the hope that it will be possible to have an easily usable FreeBSD distribution . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 14:41:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499E0106566B; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7A68FC12; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NIkD8-00065Q-QZ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:41:46 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NIkD8-0003Ju-2K; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:41:42 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBAEffDP000856; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:41:41 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBAEffVS000855; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:41:41 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:41:41 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Subject: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:41:47 -0000 >From my information security manager: FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 14:46:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA054106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [62.28.132.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED988FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.142] (unknown [192.168.1.142]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38042285C6; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:46:10 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <4B20F911.20705@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:35:13 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dimitar Trandov References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:46:13 -0000 On 10/12/2009 10:36, Dimitar Trandov wrote: > > > Hi list, > Yesterday I decided to upgrade my server, which currently running 7.1rel. > p8. Do I have to first upgrade to 7.2 release and then to 8.0, or instead of > this, directly do a safe step to 8.0 release ? > Thanks in advance > > Dimitar, > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > 7.2 first then 8.0. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 14:51:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DFC1065692; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CDA8FC1A; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0500DF741F; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:51:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:51:22 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:51:24 -0000 In response to Anton Shterenlikht : > >From my information security manager: > > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: > > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot? Does he realize that FreeBSD has a grand total of 16 security problems for all of 2009? Hell, Microsoft has that many in an average month. If he can find something (other than OpenBSD) with a better record than that, I'd love to hear about it. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 14:52:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7D91065679; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imb@protected-networks.net) Received: from sarah.protected-networks.net (sarah.protected-networks.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:4e1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCB88FC21; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from toshi.auburn.protected-networks.net (toshi.auburn.protected-networks.net [202.12.127.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Iain Michael Butler", Issuer "Protected Networks Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: imb) by sarah.protected-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5580160E4; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:52:28 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=protected-networks.net; s=200705; t=1260456748; bh=Ic4AW872XYdPbiG67Ye+m+9UwKunfXcVGEL0J1Ud31U=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=X+72KaQn7gNufq2/q38O/5XPGAS0M1V7u0TI14A7zAIlLz1jh45QptJI79k0qzhlc FO+Jh8X1I9nDMBxvEbz03Veu8FYEQvRXh5+yhVx9X6tAKMexYMF+JXcYbDqQI89 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=200509; d=protected-networks.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mwHL6vaQDw+ePphyPDSSw7xb/bmKQrnsF/33Euy6JoO3k/WBSWeC9uJe+tmiUPSKU TpVVftrjvoPuH+bxJuH3GyJjHqdaMgMD86ZQR0wfwcjY9rnTG5XuC4hq8HLKc9M Message-ID: <4B210B27.7080203@protected-networks.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:52:23 -0500 From: Michael Butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=0442D492 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:52:30 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>From my information security manager: > > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: > > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html Without wanting to get into any "flame wars", I will only say this .. I find this kind of unsubstantiated speculation extremely disappointing. It speaks not only to an apparent lack of knowledge about FreeBSD but also about any alternative operating system. Subject closed, imb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 14:54:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E701065694 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A668FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so1571156fxm.13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:54:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M0QjQQeSRtFiD8BydsMsv+ULeFZrhqE+skr5AeMk8ZY=; b=ewc3tE1eVSamKMjo/xD6CE8Pk6cTesTCpgektkCTo1aFY8wDuKm4m6EJzCUFdP9/xA kFyyRqsS/U4TIIg5yjhB8cxDxxSHK6UmkB30TXtKVnO6Kt1EOoNjcHbHNg6T0H8VcHho IrR2jw7mAd9yimHW/Lq3prCL61EUTXo8gkDdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=evBuY48HlCv6BAMmWa3Fu/N8EKUmEcjeQH0s1onZiuNKZZ2NJGnUiuddhU0uo0jhjq zPs9IeoG8TVzR0QBUK37OKPOUTFISETmtHwFhpqgeW90JKiv7cyjVE8abpNzk3U45FCd I4jOWo3WpGzKD1WaGVAIN3wkW8Z4Mqcechy3c= Received: by 10.216.85.213 with SMTP id u63mr15029wee.15.1260456856004; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u14sm3086042gvf.19.2009.12.10.06.54.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:54:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:54:11 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091210145411.279939ad@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4B1F5263.1060907@mail.ru> References: <4B1F5263.1060907@mail.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.4; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Temporarily halt boot process to enter encryption keys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:54:17 -0000 On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:31:47 -0600 "Corey J. Bukolt" <0.23@mail.ru> wrote: > Hello list, > > I have a FreeNAS box with a CF card for root, and 3 drives (soon to be > 4) set up with encryption and raidz on top of them. > A less than excellent detailed report of what I did is here: > http://bit.ly/5BeZq8 > This setup is a bit hackish as after the system boots I need to attach > each drive using geli, run "zpool import -f primary", and then restart > all my services (nfs, samba, etc). > > It's become a bit of a chore (especially when doing it all from a > N810), so I'm looking for a way to temporary halt the boot process so > that I can ssh in, attach the drives, and then allow the system to > continue to boot. > It's fairly trivial to write an rc.d script that pauses the boot process and waits for devices, but sshd runs after LOGIN, and nfs runs before, so you can't easily reorder then without maintaining modified rc.d scripts. I don't see the point though. Why not just write a script to do what you are doing now? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 14:55:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78971065695; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DF48FC18; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBAEtcXo063322; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:55:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <200912101455.nBAEtcXo063322@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:55:40 -0500 To: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:55:47 -0000 At 09:41 AM 12/10/2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >From my information security manager: > > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I > understand) and has a > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: > > >http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html > Some say... world flat... some say roundish. There are lots of opinions to choose from. It would be nice to see an actual properly designed study quoted... or even some raw data referenced. and I am not talking about something vendor sponsored that examines such track records. In the case of the above mentioned zero day exploit someone posted, I think FreeBSD did a GREAT job at getting a fast unofficial patch out and then 2 days later an official advisory and patch out. Take a look at their actual track record at http://www.freebsd.org/security and judge for yourself based on that. Note, a good chunk of whats there is common across multiple operating systems (e.g ntpd, BIND, openssl etc) There are lots of reasons why someone might use or not use FreeBSD. In my _opinion_, a "poor security record" is not one of them... But judge for yourself based on their actual track record. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 15:00:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48F1106568F for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F3878FC1D for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4920 invoked by uid 89); 10 Dec 2009 15:06:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 10 Dec 2009 15:06:56 -0000 Message-ID: <4B210CE9.1050709@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:59:53 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:00:04 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Anton Shterenlikht : > >> >From my information security manager: >> >> FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a >> (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: >> >> http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html > > Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot? He doesn't really have to _try_, does he? I have always thought that an infosec person should *know* what they have running within their own network, and furthermore, gather his comparative analysis from somewhere other than the dept-of-some-guys-blog. Perhaps these are not the job requirements of a security person. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 15:00:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695C5106568F for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30088FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4468741.home.otenet.gr [94.71.111.245]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id nBAF0jpu004410; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:00:45 +0200 Message-ID: <4B210D1D.5060009@otenet.gr> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:00:45 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> <4B20FF37.8020008@forethought.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:00:47 -0000 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Reed Loefgren wrote: > > >> >>> Exactly. Most desktop users want a working system in the minimum of time >>> (Can't blame them for that). >>> Even with packages, we cannot beat an image-based distro, esp. since it >>> will also provide all essential default settings. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> If I might butt in: If the user-to-be wants a working system in 5 minutes >> could there be a link on the FreeBSD homepage itself directing them to >> PC-BSD (or similar) .ISOs? Perhaps with an addendum that, while they can >> download and install FreeBSD 'straight up, no chaser' using an image from >> the FreeBSD page, it *isn't* going to be 5 minutes and perhaps a derivative >> version might be their best bet. >> >> Just a thought, >> >> >> r >> >> > > > > After trying installation of FreeBSD 8.0 Release ( before RCs ) without > success > > ( Gnome : Some menu elements are not working , for example shutdown , > it is becoming necessary to open a terminal and explicitly > write > shutdown -p now , it is not possible to every thing by > terminal or GUI elements ) , > You are probably missing policykit/hal settings. Have a look at: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html > ( KDE4 : Konsole not working because after a short show of terminal window , > it is > disappearing , it is not possible to do every thing without > Konsole ) , > > Haven't used KDE4 in FreeBSD for a while so I can't really say. I have built some packages but not used them yet. > ( XFCE - It is becoming rock solid due to key board insensitivity , on the > same computer > many operating systems are working , > from FreeBSD to many Linux distributions ) . > > > After those attempts , I have installed DesktopBSD 1.7 . I can say that it > is a WONDERFUL > FreeBSD distribution based on FreeBSD 7.2 and KDE4 where FreeBSD 7.2 from > www.FreeBSD.org can not be compared with its beatiness . > > > You do realize of course that DesktopBSD *is* FreeBSD with many of these settings and defaults pre-applied for you? Obviously the DesktopBSD developers do a wonderful job on it, but it is also possible to build this yourself using FreeBSD and ports. It will take more time, it will be more tedious and you will learn a lot of stuff. And you will have a lot more control of what gets installed and how the final system behaves. Obviously these are less important factors, if the purpose is to have a desktop system as quickly as possible. > Now , I am waiting FreeBSD 8.x from www.FreeBSD.org , where x > 0 , with > the hope that it will be possible to have an easily usable FreeBSD > distribution . > You may also want to give PC-BSD a try. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 15:01:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50AA106566B; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DF58FC0A; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929FB6D41B; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 696EF844F3; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:01:09 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:01:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> (Anton Shterenlikht's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:41:41 +0000") Message-ID: <86d42mlvpm.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:01:10 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht writes: > From my information security manager: > > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for > example: "comparatively", compared to what? Windows? Linux? We beat them both into the ground. He is speaking from ignorance. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 15:04:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808C3106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9BA8FC33 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so6671736gxk.13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:04:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1RoP9HaUsa0XwuLIT5TCY6JNfGHjZdH0hz88NJau7RE=; b=h2v68B3g5x9Y6XuvYqRMrGdzEeaXhx/uLtzSsl+K26VDVY1SiGgXt6bG7aLMe4bhc1 TBKwes+ZY/DanWftm7z3nhW6qh/I1TxNWVdvzTu/yxEPyH6J6yIS9SMRzrbEk3smQMxp /0/ZA3a+i/M5w2AKFjui81KtRQMXyyVOjW4qU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h07JqkXAoK3aLLeZ1VSZQPpyUY1Zqv61501R0KBn0m47KhqL8DoV7VOIryKn29GUcg WX9bhTwiYK08TC5aiuF8gf/y2AVkbBsX6fRW9AGjNZUTLoV4qzB56oKRVWa6YoFLPfYI 9GNo5M3Do9NBtQCNtTbQGuz9pOXcN6CR8nzKc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.162.31 with SMTP id p31mr188117ago.121.1260457454934; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:04:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:04:14 -0500 Message-ID: <5d6848b00912100704t33828fc6x900f716ddd6af8d@mail.gmail.com> From: Kevin Wilcox To: Anton Shterenlikht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:04:16 -0000 2009/12/10 Anton Shterenlikht : > >From my information security manager: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0FreeBSD isn't much used within the University = (I understand) and has a > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(comparatively) poor security record. Most rec= ently, for example: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Roo= t-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html Wow. Just...wow. FreeBSD's security record, the rate at which fixes occur, the ports system and the overall sanity of the environment is *precisely* why we have been migrating from RHEL to FreeBSD at my University (I'm employed by the University, not a student). I would be quite curious as to which operating system is serving as the baseline for this comparison. I would also be quite curious as to whether the manager making said statement is responsible for central IT services or is locked into providing services by a particular vendor. kmw --=20 Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so - Unattributed, post 9/11 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 15:06:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E5A10656B3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC028FC2F for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:06:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBAEovKO000886; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:50:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBAEovXd000885; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:50:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:50:56 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Doug Sampson Message-ID: <20091210145056.GA826@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP USB 2.0 Tape Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:06:32 -0000 On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 03:50:04PM -0800, Doug Sampson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking to buy a tape drive and am currently looking at USB 2.0 DAT tape > drives from HP. I searched the hardware compatibility list and cannot locate > any information tape drives except the disclaimer that SCSI tape drives do > work on SCSI controller cards that are recognized by the FreeBSD OS. The > only thing I can find is that apparently the ehci driver must be used if USB > 2.0 interface is to be used with a tape drive. > > Does anyone have had positive or negative experience using these USB-based > DAT tape drives? Specifically, I am looking at the HP (Hewlett-Packard) > StorageWorks Q1581SB DAT 160 Tape Drive. If there are other branded USB > 2.0-based tape drives (i.e. Quantum) that you've used with little or no > problems, I would be interested in knowing about these. I don't think you will have a problem using a USB2 interface. But, I really cannot recommend DAT. That type of system seems to have been pushed beyond its ability. The tapes fail frequently. The only thing nice about DAT is its rapid search ability. But, if you can't read what you thought you wrote, it doesn't matter how fast you can search for it. ////jerry > > ~Doug > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 15:10:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AE41065676 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 916E58FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Dec 2009 15:10:00 -0000 Received: from pD952E2D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.226.217] by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 10 Dec 2009 16:10:00 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/EsrwWx9XEgtqR0WXkr7jvhwezZ6hP9E2aPCzuVV TA3J1Z9myxYFPo Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:09:57 +0100 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <20091210160957.a91f973a.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.18.4; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__10_Dec_2009_16_09_57_+0100_bFL4I1O2jLPhQg5O" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.6 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:10:03 -0000 --Signature=_Thu__10_Dec_2009_16_09_57_+0100_bFL4I1O2jLPhQg5O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:41:41 +0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a > (comparatively) poor security record. In comparison to what it is supposed to have a poor security record? > Most recently, for example: > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-87335= 2.html Yes, and? http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D0+0+archive/2009/freebsd-sec= urity-notifications/20091206.freebsd-security-notifications http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-09:16.rtld.asc Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Thu__10_Dec_2009_16_09_57_+0100_bFL4I1O2jLPhQg5O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkshD0cACgkQ8P3NNypXNWV/ZACguMysFy4dmlf5sTKExKZu6cHM sWoAn1C74DszY4oq81MC1JYWHiveg/Kk =uxcU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__10_Dec_2009_16_09_57_+0100_bFL4I1O2jLPhQg5O-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 15:21:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBB51065692; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@hostedcontent.com) Received: from nikki.fasti.net (nikki.fasti.net [216.105.91.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB718FC16; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([216.105.80.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by nikki.fasti.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBAF1AO8042393 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:01:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from joe@hostedcontent.com) Message-ID: <4B210D4B.30103@hostedcontent.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:01:31 -0500 From: joe User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-FastiNet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-FastiNet-MailScanner-ID: nBAF1AO8042393 X-FastiNet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-FastiNet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-FastiNet-MailScanner-From: joe@hostedcontent.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:21:04 -0000 Fire the noob you have working for you and hire someone with a clue. Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>From my information security manager: > > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: > > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html > > > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 15:27:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAAC1065741 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEA98FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBAF28Y3001048; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:02:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBAF28Zf001047; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:02:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:02:08 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20091210150207.GC826@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091209002231.EB7D01065741@hub.freebsd.org> <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20091210012256.7d2e8240@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B204FDD.3070005@lazlarlyricon.com> <20091210030816.152b05c9.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091210030816.152b05c9.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:27:54 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 03:08:16AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:33:17 +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > > As far as I understand it, it's called Dangerously Dedicated because it > > may cause other systems not to recognise the disk. > > Primarily, it's called "dedicated" (only) because it describes > a setting where a whole hard disk is dedicated to the FreeBSD > operating system. The addition "dangerously" seems to describe > the danger that other operating systems cannot handle such a > disk layout, or may cause problems to them - but I don't know > this for sure because I'm not a "multi-booter". :-) It is dangerous because other systems cannot talk to it. It is dedicated because only FreeBSD can talk to it. It is a somewhat redundant term but it sounds good and important. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 15:44:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA0E1065697 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEF88FC1B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 10:44:19 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LHJ87710; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 10:43:39 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19233.5929.460340.969187@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:43:37 -0500 To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20091210150207.GC826@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091209002231.EB7D01065741@hub.freebsd.org> <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20091210012256.7d2e8240@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B204FDD.3070005@lazlarlyricon.com> <20091210030816.152b05c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091210150207.GC826@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:44:20 -0000 Jerry McAllister writes: > It is dedicated because only FreeBSD can talk to it. Is this correct? What about {Net, Open, DregonFly}BSD, or Linux? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 15:50:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304C3106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) Received: from web24803.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web24803.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.110.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E2D38FC26 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32717 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Dec 2009 15:50:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1260460250; bh=Ak/xapP7mssRR89AhqhUmjNsdxYTF3AAkdN7EZZTNW4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3F8KWBJ2dGrhW4DQkOMokxLl5oRfMygYCI7Lq7+Da4iTCF7Rwz2mwaYYYIFGCmLgLFMwZm0DGfVHNEAccKZQHa/3zx37z50XjzQOKK5Z62GdACTPffouBKeECHjqe7HC/1HsP33mnJs6OTHUR4XHuAu6g4y7KjBjiUGQhh+XtRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HXFsvyeSo2jKyK5crbW/Hu9hEqrzIlg7uqySMfx9peRn/aq6nEM/Gyx5QAxw4oVJTcKKa2UHNZbrieTJS1/ToZpZ525TzJo1cONBoMBHQ8gyQeY5CaoitnubjDXWUYGf/FlPDuQqyouGUMmd6007ttKrbuQH7ky1DgfZZFiM54s=; Message-ID: <85427.32015.qm@web24803.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: XOs5wfUVM1kLsqkJ02b1OockPr7bLSO8ExqE8JCLjQV_qWrIvbCJ1p6vGfPJsIy9TrMCpmE5K6sCYRw04jP_KXXlDwCfBWl0CWUO9UW.fOUesnqoxvV41OB2KybxVost9Ko.LFbIN0ituxXVLdy49pK2KVn0y.X1paeCe5Ez8MXOnd7OgSTRdueLjUTVIaSZh4fmC0kO39BazdsYzxsJyEe2Tyq1AsdxFTqwWrhEIAzaH36ydQ-- Received: from [192.196.142.20] by web24803.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:50:50 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:50:50 -0800 (PST) From: "Alexandre L." To: Dimitar Trandov , ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com In-Reply-To: <4B20F911.20705@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:50:53 -0000 I think you wrong. =0AI read the Official Announce for FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE = http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/announce.html=0AYou can find this sent= ence : "Systems running 7.[012]-RELEASE, 8.0-BETA[1234], or 8.0-RC[123] can= upgrade as follows:"=0A=0AYou can upgrade directly from 7.1 to 8.0 with th= e steps described in the Handbook (from sources with csup or binaries with = freebsd-update). =0A=0AYou must recompile your ports after this major upgra= de.=0A=0AAlexandre. =0A=0A--- En date de=A0: Jeu 10.12.09, Ricardo Jesus a =E9crit=A0:=0A=0A> De: Ricardo Jesus =0A> Objet: Re: How to upgrade=0A> =C0: "Dimitar Trand= ov" =0A> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Date:= Jeudi 10 D=E9cembre 2009, 13h35=0A> On 10/12/2009 10:36, Dimitar Trandov= =0A> wrote:=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > Hi list,=0A> > Yesterday I decided to upgrade= my server, which=0A> currently running 7.1rel.=0A> > p8. Do I have to firs= t upgrade to 7.2 release and then=0A> to 8.0, or instead of=0A> > this, dir= ectly do a safe step to 8.0 release ?=0A> > Thanks in advance=0A> >=0A> > D= imitar,=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > _______________________________________________= =0A> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> mailing list=0A> > http://lists.fr= eebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> > To unsubscribe, send any= mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> >=0A> 7.2 first th= en 8.0.=0A> _______________________________________________=0A> freebsd-que= stions@freebsd.org=0A> mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/li= stinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ques= tions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 15:56:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE41B106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCDD8FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBAFlbIR001489; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:47:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBAFlbPx001488; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:47:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:47:37 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20091210154737.GA1469@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091209002231.EB7D01065741@hub.freebsd.org> <675083.74248.qm@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20091210012256.7d2e8240@gumby.homeunix.com> <4B204FDD.3070005@lazlarlyricon.com> <20091210030816.152b05c9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091210150207.GC826@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <19233.5929.460340.969187@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19233.5929.460340.969187@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:56:23 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:43:37AM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > Jerry McAllister writes: > > > It is dedicated because only FreeBSD can talk to it. > > Is this correct? What about {Net, Open, DregonFly}BSD, or > Linux? > Not Linux without some programming, but maybe some of the other BSDs. ////jerry > > Robert Huff > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 16:13:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075531065693 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from outQ.internet-mail-service.net (outq.internet-mail-service.net [216.240.47.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DF98FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from idiom.com (mx0.idiom.com [216.240.32.160]) by out.internet-mail-service.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9A4961CA; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:03:21 -0800 (PST) X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (h-67-100-89-137.snfccasy.static.covad.net [67.100.89.137]) by idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A4E2D6013; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:02:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B211BAB.4030301@elischer.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:02:51 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:13:25 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>From my information security manager: > > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: > > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html yeah we know, but really, quoting security as a reason not to use it is a bit like quoting flat tyres (British spelling to those USA'ns reading) as a reason to not buy a Jag. Every OS has them and in fact we are better than many. > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 16:21:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86A41065695; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AEC8FC18; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NIlm3-0004Ey-GU; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:21:57 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NIlm2-00054L-IY; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:21:51 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBAGLoLF001210; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:21:50 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBAGLo2V001209; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:21:50 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:21:50 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:21:59 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:51:22AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Anton Shterenlikht : > > > >From my information security manager: > > > > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a > > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: > > > > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html > > Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot? Does he > realize that FreeBSD has a grand total of 16 security problems for all > of 2009? Hell, Microsoft has that many in an average month. > > If he can find something (other than OpenBSD) with a better record than > that, I'd love to hear about it. I was just stressed after being forced by him to explain why I wanted firewall exceptions for two ports to my FreeBSD portscluster nodes. I explained the reasons and that was settled. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the sole fbsd user at my Uni. The situation with computing is not great and getting worse. The Uni is, of course, addicted to Microsoft, but having realised all the problems with that, lately the policy has been to deny (!) MS users admin access to their own desktops. The situation is just ridiculous - if a MS user wants to install a piece of software on their PC he/she has to ask for permission, and then wait until some computer officer would come and do install for them. Also recently, well.. about a year ago, no host (!) could be accessed from outside the Uni firewall. Special exception has to be obtained even for ssh. There is only one dedicated sun server which accepts only ssh. The users are supposed to dial to this frontend server first, and from there to hosts on the local net. Honestly, the situation is so bad that I sometimes wonder - perhaps it's me who is mad. It seems IT services look at anybody who wants to escape MS with suspicion at best. I had to fight a long battle, well.. I had some support from other academics, to have a linux class in my Faculty. Here the opposition wasn't so much security, as "why would any undegraduate need linux", as if MS solutions are a pinnacle of human thought. And from I understand it's going to get worse. Apparently the IT services are drawing up plans to completely forbid use of "non-autorized" OS. I imagine fbsd will not be authorized. So I'm anticipating another battle already. Perhaps I should start putting together some statistics to make my case more forcefully. many thanks for your support, as always -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 16:26:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FBC1065692 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [62.28.132.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D408FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.142] (unknown [192.168.1.142]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AFA22858F; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:26:14 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <4B212129.9020000@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:26:17 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Alexandre L." References: <85427.32015.qm@web24803.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <85427.32015.qm@web24803.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com, Dimitar Trandov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:26:16 -0000 On 10/12/2009 15:50, Alexandre L. wrote: > I think you wrong. > I read the Official Announce for FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE http://www.freebsd= .org/releases/8.0R/announce.html > You can find this sentence : "Systems running 7.[012]-RELEASE, 8.0-BETA= [1234], or 8.0-RC[123] can upgrade as follows:" > > You can upgrade directly from 7.1 to 8.0 with the steps described in th= e Handbook (from sources with csup or binaries with freebsd-update). > > You must recompile your ports after this major upgrade. > > Alexandre. > > --- En date de : Jeu 10.12.09, Ricardo Jesus a =E9crit : > >> De: Ricardo Jesus >> Objet: Re: How to upgrade >> =C0: "Dimitar Trandov" >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Date: Jeudi 10 D=E9cembre 2009, 13h35 >> On 10/12/2009 10:36, Dimitar Trandov >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi list, >>> Yesterday I decided to upgrade my server, which >> currently running 7.1rel. >>> p8. Do I have to first upgrade to 7.2 release and then >> to 8.0, or instead of >>> this, directly do a safe step to 8.0 release ? >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> Dimitar, >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb= sd.org" >>> >> 7.2 first then 8.0. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebs= d.org" >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" > Either way you achieve your goal. And there is nothing like reading the=20 documentation before upgrading. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 17:00:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26CF106568D for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chargen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687B68FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so59127ewy.3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:00:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=V4fi9ZU2Blkwldooc1JV6lJSne5O+RrPnf2NQE0jKVE=; b=T2j0ALhkl+BwLDGmLwRhmeXioiu7PYh8NCVZssdNd5ZfXhUNzd53DPok/JxI1I29yr y1RCPf7pluTsjoN5fz1yVXmdXOKSXtRUr4aLsIUjCTZPdvWWx+mPRT6F4fsCU+PcrOHD bzyTU9QDZbQMHSyMR34QMuLzV+Gm7Ysn5Vi0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; b=fMJiRqlP3o+qzzxT9CY74MCTGvitmULGInrvZSLZ2BH3+8Jg9NEBTEPwX8lN+eaU5X OxeWvpLAMsRVkWOKN8Ih9IukKJ2kgtY4WjRlWHVWl4UgaqdijgVZIw26VZ61Y+AeG7v5 knAOmUefbqtuOcqdp7EZ25pq6MySrT2NvmMAw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.79.78 with SMTP id o14mt4139481ebk.21.1260462731925; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:32:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:32:11 +0100 Message-ID: <292361ab0912100832u135e912bo59c0debd4129fd18@mail.gmail.com> From: Chargen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:00:48 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:51:22AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: >> In response to Anton Shterenlikht : > I had to fight a long battle, well.. I had > some support from other academics, to have > a linux class in my Faculty. Here the > opposition wasn't so much security, as > "why would any undegraduate need linux", > as if MS solutions are a pinnacle of human thought. This is getting so funny.. Next topic please. Peace. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 17:09:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A3F106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linda.messerschmidt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7B78FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so73144fxm.13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:09:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=6nwoSozWnasDrbnn6qeEyuYuyJDwcR8EIJ9N6qVDGDE=; b=UpfQb+hMwcs5K1P+C68xQArF/dxhXfGdaQ8dSlWX5T6VoUoq1MF9MDZCTWC4D7j9r/ v3w3N6aDdVGmoWd05QZsLu/IFE0LRYfZ8pBpoReVnBzV8Yu/vhB5YYWr70UDyWcLEc6t bFqL2y+KIFWj/wKRkJyDsVoMWdQP+o4lZH6Xg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HELPvwGQZWKza8sBH3gewjwUMrjmokSV5dDUqeXlR2qxmy/2byvdDVHVRngXpCDYoE 2fmMQb98+nDosnXNI+GtN75hLb2iP8ErSnh1x7M/FsLWlbTuPvd5tcRDRU2QuEU5QtAo f/fPS0Ve3pJ8/Fi6uP3jE3QjfCkV1jUSe4UBA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.135 with SMTP id w7mr55201wee.176.1260464943103; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:09:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:09:03 -0500 Message-ID: <237c27100912100909i9c0eb95jd348eb594d86c744@mail.gmail.com> From: Linda Messerschmidt To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: 8.0: OpenSSL stat()'s NLS 500+ times causing extreme system load X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:04 -0000 We have a Nagios server (ports/net-mgmt/nagios) that has a lot of check_nrpe2 (ports/net-mgmt/nrpe2) checks. We recently upgraded the server it runs on to 8.0-STABLE (r199975). The performance has never been great, but now it's really atrocious and I'm trying to figure out what's going on. The machine (a dual-core Nehalem) has a load average of 5 - 10 at all times, and "top" shows 100% CPU usage, 75% "system" CPU usage. No process has more than a few % CPU though. This is due to the large number of very short-lived processes doing individual Nagios checks that don't live long enough to appear in top. I investigated in some more detail with ktrace and found that each execution of check_nrpe2 performs 520 stat() calls. The bulk of them look like this: 81915 check_nrpe2 CALL stat(0x7fbfde28,0x7fbfddc4) 81915 check_nrpe2 NAMI "/usr/share/nls/C/libc.cat" 81915 check_nrpe2 RET stat -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 81915 check_nrpe2 CALL stat(0x7fbfde28,0x7fbfddc4) 81915 check_nrpe2 NAMI "/usr/share/nls/libc/C" 81915 check_nrpe2 RET stat -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 81915 check_nrpe2 CALL stat(0x7fbfde28,0x7fbfddc4) 81915 check_nrpe2 NAMI "/usr/local/share/nls/C/libc.cat" 81915 check_nrpe2 RET stat -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 81915 check_nrpe2 CALL stat(0x7fbfde28,0x7fbfddc4) 81915 check_nrpe2 NAMI "/usr/local/share/nls/libc/C" 81915 check_nrpe2 RET stat -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 81915 check_nrpe2 CALL stat(0x7fbfde28,0x7fbfddc4) kdump also shows 70 calls to getpid, which seems excessive. (About 50 of them appear to be in a tight loop.) The check_nrpe2 program simply opens an SSL socket to a remote server, sends a short request and gets a short response. It is a pretty simple program. (~22k of source) The calls to getpid() bother me a bit, but I think the NLS is the real problem: $ kdump -E -t n | fgrep /nls/ | head -1 81915 check_nrpe2 0.016815 NAMI "/usr/share/nls/C/libc.cat" $ kdump -E -t n | fgrep /nls/ | tail -1 81915 check_nrpe2 0.135663 NAMI "/usr/local/share/nls/libc/C" $ kdump -E | tail -1 81915 check_nrpe2 0.222510 CALL exit(0x1) $ kdump -E -t n | fgrep /nls/ | wc 508 2540 32004 So this program spends over half its life looping over 508 stat() calls looking for a nonexistent libc.cat file. And then another chunk (probably a lot smaller, but not measured) looping over getpid(). Both appear to be related to SSL; if I set up nrpe not to use it, both excesses go away and the program finishes in about half the time, using about half the CPU resources. To confirm that it was SSL-related, I tried: $ ktrace openssl s_client -connect x2:5666 And I got the exact same stat() & getpid() behavior. Obviously there is some small CPU overhead associated with SSL. This is not about that. This is about the system overhead induced by calling stat 500+ times on a directory that doesn't exist. This gets a little worse. Because there are several checks running at any given time, there is a lot of contention to VFS lookup this handful of paths. That's an area where FreeBSD has known SMP performance issues I've seen discussed elsewhere, and this is a pathological worst case. The net result, a dual core machine is brought to its knees by a relatively simple Nagios setup. Anyway, long story short, why is OpenSSL doing this and how can we make it stop? Thanks for any suggestions! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 17:15:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEBE106566B; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=5888011bd=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E47D8FC30; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:15:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,375,1257141600"; d="scan'208";a="23801370" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 11:05:17 -0600 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 478BF4E94D; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:05:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:05:16 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4EEC1C1C04727F728800F265@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:15:41 -0000 --On Thursday, December 10, 2009 08:41:41 -0600 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >> From my information security manager: > > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: > > > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.ht > ml > Please pass this to your information security manager: >From one information security manager to another, you're an idiot. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 17:19:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF58E106568F for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF50A8FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:19:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9354A43060; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:18:04 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:18:04 -0800 From: Jason To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20091210171803.GB33110@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4EEC1C1C04727F728800F265@utd65257.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EEC1C1C04727F728800F265@utd65257.utdallas.edu> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:19:17 -0000 http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-09:16.rtld.asc On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:05:16AM -0600, Paul Schmehl thus spake: >--On Thursday, December 10, 2009 08:41:41 -0600 Anton Shterenlikht > wrote: > >> >>> From my information security manager: >> >> FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a >> (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: >> >> >> http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.ht >> ml >> > >Please pass this to your information security manager: > >>From one information security manager to another, you're an idiot. > >-- >Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst >As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions >are my own and not those of my employer. >******************************************* >"It is as useless to argue with those who have >renounced the use of reason as to administer >medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- i am a mutthead From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 17:22:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFBE106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (d80.iso100.no [81.175.61.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922348FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.11] (unknown [192.168.4.11]) (Authenticated sender: svein) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 8D33C72; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:04:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B212A05.1070405@stillbilde.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:04:05 +0100 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chargen References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <292361ab0912100832u135e912bo59c0debd4129fd18@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <292361ab0912100832u135e912bo59c0debd4129fd18@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:22:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chargen wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:51:22AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: >>> In response to Anton Shterenlikht : > >> I had to fight a long battle, well.. I had >> some support from other academics, to have >> a linux class in my Faculty. Here the >> opposition wasn't so much security, as >> "why would any undegraduate need linux", >> as if MS solutions are a pinnacle of human thought. > > This is getting so funny.. > > Next topic please. > > Peace. What bothers me is that some of these worshipers (be that demon, penguin, apple, or windows) simple cannot fathom the old "right tool for the right job" saying... //Svein - -- - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkshKgUACgkQODUnwSLUlKQepACgkDgvRoCEbJvrRbfkCa3YrF9P c/IAoKNxVaAcoVn/cEYUg0yIJgf6k+ek =oGMp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 17:41:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F21106568B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3D58FC15 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBAHekdQ046000; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:40:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7F044BAA1; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:40:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:40:46 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Doug Sampson Message-ID: <20091210174046.GA386@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP USB 2.0 Tape Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:41:19 -0000 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 03:50:04PM -0800, Doug Sampson wrote: > Does anyone have had positive or negative experience using these USB-based > DAT tape drives? Specifically, I am looking at the HP (Hewlett-Packard) > StorageWorks Q1581SB DAT 160 Tape Drive. If there are other branded USB > 2.0-based tape drives (i.e. Quantum) that you've used with little or no > problems, I would be interested in knowing about these. Apparently the umass driver supports at least some models, they are reported as sa(4) devices; see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-November/104550.h= tml=20 I don't know if the speed problems in abovementioned message still exist. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkshMp4ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVKcgCdEauH/S1C4uD/XCoFI9CMbnwF CS8An1DM73Kb2sGSWaZf9f3SZw4mBPJA =QXbC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 17:45:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AAB106566B; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884E08FC08; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1NIn4Z-0004Su-8i; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:45:03 +0100 Received: from p57ae296f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([87.174.41.111]:23525 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1NIn4Z-0000y5-25; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:45:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:45:02 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20091210184502.30fce047@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.16.2; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:45:05 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:21:50 +0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I had to fight a long battle, well.. I had > some support from other academics, to have > a linux class in my Faculty. Here the > opposition wasn't so much security, as > "why would any undegraduate need linux", > as if MS solutions are a pinnacle of human thought. > I feel for you. I used to work for DEC, at one time a major UNIX vendor. Then one day all employees were forced to install Windows NT to access their mail accounts because management, in its wisdom, decided to standardize on Mickeysoft Exchange Server. No real reason, since up til then UNIX mail servers had been more than adequate. IT services had similarly restrictive policies regarding users installing SW, etc. I always wondered who Mickeysoft bribed to get that put through. Fortuantely, I had no problem setting up a "black" FreeBSD box to preserve my sanity. --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 17:50:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F56106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42C98FC15 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 1EBE5471FFD for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:50:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C54386A44 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:50:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:50:18 +0100 Message-Id: <200912101850.AA408355014@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: can't get a full fbsd 7.2 amd64 install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:50:21 -0000 fbsd 7.2 amd64 "kernel developer" install Here's a successful install du du -d1 -h / 2.0K /.snap 2.0K /dev 1.8G /usr 1.6G /var 1.7M /etc 2.0K /cdrom 2.0K /dist 1.1M /bin 206M /boot 6.7M /lib 396K /libexec 2.0K /media 2.0K /mnt 2.0K /proc 4.0M /rescue 42K /root 4.3M /sbin 24K /tmp 3.6G / <<<<<<<<<<<<< here's what we're getting on another machine, way too little: du -h -d1 / 2.0K /.snap 2.0K /dev 1.1G /usr 238K /var 1.7M /etc 2.0K /cdrom 2.0K /dist 1.1M /bin 411M /boot 6.7M /lib 396K /libexec 2.0K /media 2.0K /mnt 2.0K /proc 4.0M /rescue 10K /root 4.3M /sbin 12K /tmp 1.5G / <<<<<<<<<<<<< and /usr is also missing 800 MB just after install. using 7.2 amd64 disc01, as forever. I ran sysinstall, post install config, and checked stuff, but still didn't get, eg, anything in /usr/bin/ comments? Could my client have chosen the wrong .iso? Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 17:53:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D890F1065670 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sisson.j@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638F18FC1F for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so123625fxm.13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:53:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rFN+Bq8mk/YLklPUtJAWZ+Lw/8G3u0VS3/Ei6H9g/hE=; b=BWhrkT415VWADZGISkjbGHSDKbYhAINlp9sgliMJO1BSKN1xHrcWNbyrYJfMMxk9vf kKT7itSdq6IqT23uVGKCJaRUjbYcEeYdj286QQZlHM3sw4ljVOwhTHC151e/ySC8Cm58 ps8m74EKUrI3ZDEeLewD54Iji/aH5geDhwGhg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=grGYXnVh4m5VAbJ/bG9y24B0u4UmeJ44mmu7X4TTWcFqx/Owgnsj5pTjnfl1lgR0Be flRFF29UjVWoopLHxGQcn/s/WhIQfP4PYzgLHLl827candIfegRsU9co6BMedBYD5Ofh 25vosIG5UzVkgqGpMqfTUyzpzLMK/1t3dJP/c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.17 with SMTP id s17mr18021hbg.172.1260467599743; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:53:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:53:19 -0600 Message-ID: <4297a9020912100953w4da66c89w2af37b9872c271aa@mail.gmail.com> From: J Sisson To: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:53:22 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Perhaps I should start putting together > some statistics to make my case more forcefully. > I fought the same battle at the Univ. I attended (as a student). They were an M$ shop as well and had issues with me running OpenBSD. I stuck to it and finally got a "straight" answer from the Dean of CS: "I don't know anything about OpenBSD...please just use Windows and be like everyone else!". Odd, I thought that one role of higher education is to teach critical thinking, which by definition means disagreements will (and should!) occur. Apparently I was wrong. I later took a independent study at the same Univ. I wanted to compare security records for various OS's (FreeBSD and OpenBSD being listed in there). This was rejected in favor of me doing security research for Windows...so I wrote a program to demonstrate why Admins shouldn't blindly trust even system code (Windows Server 2003...stuff like netstat and task manager) and demonstrated that to the graduate level network security class (I was an undergrad at the time). I completely gave up when the grad students followed suit with the dean and tried arguing with me that my code was "hacked together specifically to exhibit the behavior I was trying to demonstrate"...as if it wasn't *real* and it couldn't be used to a malicious user's advantage. I guess it doesn't exist in the security world (according to the previously mentioned grad students) if it's not "mainstream thinking"...I feel sorry for the companies that depend on those idiots for security. If they've bought into M$ FUD, no amount of statistics/code/demonstrations will help. I'd skip the statistics in favor of putting together a resume. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 18:18:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC904106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick.dalsheimer@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A398FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so631844fgg.13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:18:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=1JlxT88xSTen8j7PPij9JO9SryHzvAiJ8nLfqlTpuvg=; b=iyM/8b8KfhQ2MzRX1v3isKvefHVjSEsCCkgRH5LNbFa4V38S4+3unsqV4rr69wl+VY QJSZLxmq0PfP7BWwKLudXTOU+Q07eAcrl2+3s/OB/ljcVa0PRIO72HNIVOw5x+JTrztZ +9Wch3MtN9kMeMJYWPyUAVVl6+uxm8bXFSkyg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tWkpJQ0YM65mVAUgSuO2zLyrpDHBU+8C4/c9K5jd2mWvaxXiqov2+2ODZsmkkaoHI4 zWdJcruF9QEjX9MugqLCTXSb9BwcjZfkRgI4LI+ERls6q9n0str6MhOrPrC4ScP/G1Q0 P8OaLEay1/Ggav9JQeN+DeMOYMsodvEdTq7Zw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.159.37 with SMTP id h37mr500886fge.79.1260467264501; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:47:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:47:44 -0500 Message-ID: <434e042e0912100947y36fadc3bjdb53812196cb6333@mail.gmail.com> From: Nick Dalsheimer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: fdisk/bsdlabel/disklabel: Class not found? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:18:12 -0000 Hello all! I've found many references to this error on Google: "fdisk: Class not found, bsdlabel: Class not found" but none explain what this error *means*. Could someone explain this error and possible remedies? I'm using a custom 8.0-RELEASE-p1 kernel. I don't even need to edit the label in order for bsdlabel to spit this out! Any information would be very helpful! Thanks, Nick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 18:32:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3323F106568D for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A105C8FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5613A34D453; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:32:38 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:32:38 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.4; amd64; ; ) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912101121.08760.david@vizion2000.net> In-Reply-To: <200912101121.08760.david@vizion2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912101832.38286.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Michael Sweet , Robert Huff , Olivier Nicole , usleepless@gmail.com Subject: Re: CUPS & laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network - one remaining problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:32:44 -0000 I have had a posting on the Cups list from Michael Sweet who has suggested the problem is something to do with my pam configuration. Thanks in advance for further guidance: > Thanks Michael - it looks as though you may have put your finger on the > problem -- but I am not certain how to react to it!!! (see below) > > > On Dec 10, 2009, at 5:34 AM, David Southwell wrote: > > > Thanks to some help from people on one of the freebsd lists I have > > > finally succeeded in getting cups the server to communicate with the > > > printer and print. > > > HOWEVER!! > > > > > > One minor niggling problem remains. I still cannot communicate with the > > > cups management interface on http://localhost:631 due to password > > > authentication failure. So the title of this thread is still very > > > relevant. > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help with the problem. > > > > > > To bring readers up to date: > > > > > > I try logging in as 'root' with correct root password in the login > > > dialogue. > > > > > > I altered the loglevel to debug and the output is at the end of this > > > post. > > > > > > It seems as though the cupsd is not receiving the input (probably due > > > to some config error on my part!). I have tried using a number of > > > different browsers but get the same result. > > > > > > Prior to testing I did: > > > > > > dns1# lppasswd -g wheel -a root > > > The standard cups error log showed > > > cupsdAuthorize: pam_start() returned 4 (system error)! > > > > OK, so you have a PAM configuration error most likely - check that the > > /etc/pam.d/cups file is consistent with the other PAM files in > > /etc/pam.d (i.e. using the correct security modules...) > > ahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa > There is no /etc/pam.d/cups file !! > > There is a > /usr/local/etc/pam.d/cups > > which has the following lines: > auth required pam_unknown.so nodelay > account required pam_unknown.so > > Shown below is ls -l for each directory! > > Wanted --- good model for pam.d/cups and where to put it!!! > > [NB This is a freebsd 7.2 p3 amd64 system with intel quad core.] > dns1# ls -l /etc/pam.d/ > total 38 > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2907 May 1 2009 README > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 322 May 1 2009 atrun > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 199 May 1 2009 cron > -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 547 May 1 2009 ftp > -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 547 May 1 2009 ftpd > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 467 May 1 2009 gdm_disabled > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 365 May 1 2009 imap > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 467 May 1 2009 kde > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 374 May 1 2009 login > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 662 May 1 2009 other > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 319 May 1 2009 passwd > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 365 May 1 2009 pop3 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 328 May 1 2009 rsh > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 739 May 1 2009 sshd > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 380 May 1 2009 su > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 705 May 1 2009 system > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 754 May 1 2009 telnetd > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 532 May 1 2009 xdm > > dns1# ls -l /usr/local/etc/pam.d > total 16 > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 69 Dec 10 09:19 cups > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 672 Dec 7 10:06 gdm > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 98 Nov 29 17:42 gnome-screensaver > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 135 Nov 4 22:09 polkit > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 135 Dec 2 09:00 polkit-1 > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 399 Sep 27 18:20 sudo > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 399 Sep 27 18:20 sudo.default > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 98 Nov 5 03:22 xscreensaver > Maybe someone who is versed in the intricacies of pam.d on freebsd 7.2 p3 amd64 might be willing to point me in the right direction. Thanks David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 18:49:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD07A1065670 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd_bronson@sbcglobal.net) Received: from cheyenne.hanadarko.com (75-9-98-151.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net [75.9.98.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B468FC20 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cheyenne.hanadarko.com [10.43.82.2]) by cheyenne.hanadarko.com (8.14.4.Beta0/8.14.4.Beta0) with ESMTP id nBAInCgs008797; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:49:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4B2142A7.1010608@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:49:11 -0600 From: "J.D. Bronson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091130 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Dalsheimer References: <434e042e0912100947y36fadc3bjdb53812196cb6333@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <434e042e0912100947y36fadc3bjdb53812196cb6333@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk/bsdlabel/disklabel: Class not found? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:49:13 -0000 bsdlabel: Class not found re-edit the label? [y]: You cant edit it. You can only say "N" and it exits w/o saving any changes. This is very annoying, because you cannot do anything with the label unlike the old days.. I had to mount an older drive and then I was able to edit the bsdlabel on the 8.0 drive as it was not 'online' - -- J.D. Bronson Information Technology Aurora Health Care - Milwaukee WI From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 19:04:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169F9106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC78A8FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1NIoJQ-0003py-Il for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:04:28 +0000 Received: from [94.168.156.45] (helo=Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1NIoJL-0002Z3-Tx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:04:24 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:04:23 -0000 Message-ID: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F7897392904F750@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD and ACHI driver Thread-Index: Acp5y5YL9TF14BxDSIu0W1My43Uxaw== From: "Graeme Dargie" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD and ACHI driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:04:31 -0000 Hello List =20 Having upgraded to FreeBSD 8.0 everything is running fine, I decided to try the ahci_load=3D"YES" in /boot/loader.conf=20 =20 The first machine was fine after a reboot,=20 =20 zpool status pool: tank state: ONLINE scrub: scrub completed after 0h14m with 0 errors on Thu Dec 10 07:19:21 2009 config: =20 NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz1 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada1 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada2 ONLINE 0 0 0 =20 errors: No known data errors =20 =20 ahci0: [ITHREAD] ahci0: AHCI v1.10 with 4 3Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich0: [ITHREAD] ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 ahcich1: [ITHREAD] ahcich2: at channel 2 on ahci0 ahcich2: [ITHREAD] ahcich3: at channel 3 on ahci0 ahcich3: [ITHREAD] =20 (aprobe1:ahcich1:0:15:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 (aprobe0:ahcich1:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 (aprobe2:ahcich2:0:15:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 (aprobe0:ahcich2:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 (aprobe3:ahcich3:0:15:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 (aprobe0:ahcich3:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ada0 at ahcich1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers ada0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada0: Native Command Queueing enabled ada1 at ahcich2 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers ada1: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada1: Native Command Queueing enabled ada2 at ahcich3 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 ada2: ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers ada2: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada2: Native Command Queueing enabled =20 The second however=20 =20 eris# zpool status pool: tank state: UNAVAIL status: One or more devices could not be opened. There are insufficient replicas for the pool to continue functioning. action: Attach the missing device and online it using 'zpool online'. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-3C scrub: none requested config: =20 NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank UNAVAIL 0 0 0 insufficient replicas raidz1 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 insufficient replicas ad8 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 cannot open ad6 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 cannot open ad4 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 cannot open ad10 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 cannot open ad14 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 cannot open ad12 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 cannot open eris# =20 ahci0: [ITHREAD] ahci0: AHCI v1.10 with 6 3Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich0: [ITHREAD] ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 ahcich1: [ITHREAD] ahcich2: at channel 2 on ahci0 ahcich2: [ITHREAD] ahcich3: at channel 3 on ahci0 ahcich3: [ITHREAD] ahcich4: at channel 4 on ahci0 ahcich4: [ITHREAD] ahcich5: at channel 5 on ahci0 ahcich5: [ITHREAD] =20 =20 ahcich0: Poll timeout on slot 0 (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ahcich1: Poll timeout on slot 0 (aprobe1:ahcich1:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ahcich2: Poll timeout on slot 0 (aprobe2:ahcich2:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ahcich3: Poll timeout on slot 0 (aprobe3:ahcich3:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ahcich4: Poll timeout on slot 0 (aprobe4:ahcich4:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ahcich5: Poll timeout on slot 0 (aprobe5:ahcich5:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ahcich0: Timeout on slot 0 ahcich1: Timeout on slot 0 ahcich2: Timeout on slot 0 ahcich3: Timeout on slot 0 ahcich4: Timeout on slot 0 ahcich5: Timeout on slot 0 run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config ahcich0: Timeout on slot 0 ahcich1: Timeout on slot 0 ahcich2: Timeout on slot 0 ahcich3: Timeout on slot 0 ahcich4: Timeout on slot 0 ahcich5: Timeout on slot 0 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a ZFS filesystem version 13 ZFS storage pool version 13 re0: link state changed to UP =20 =20 without the achi driver =20 %zpool status pool: tank state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: =20 NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz1 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad8 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad6 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad4 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad10 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad14 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad12 ONLINE 0 0 0 =20 errors: No known data errors =20 atapci0: [ITHREAD] atapci0: AHCI v1.10 controller with 6 3Gbps ports, PM supported ata2: on atapci0 ata2: port is not ready (timeout 0ms) tfd =3D 000001d0 ata2: software reset clear timeout ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci0 ata3: port is not ready (timeout 0ms) tfd =3D 000001d0 ata3: software reset clear timeout ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci0 ata4: port is not ready (timeout 0ms) tfd =3D 000001d0 ata4: software reset clear timeout ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci0 ata5: port is not ready (timeout 0ms) tfd =3D 000001d0 ata5: software reset clear timeout ata5: [ITHREAD] ata6: on atapci0 ata6: port is not ready (timeout 0ms) tfd =3D 000001d0 ata6: software reset clear timeout ata6: [ITHREAD] ata7: on atapci0 ata7: port is not ready (timeout 0ms) tfd =3D 000001d0 ata7: software reset clear timeout ata7: [ITHREAD] ad0: 76318MB at ata0-master UDMA133 ad1: 78533MB at ata0-slave UDMA133 GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror/gm0 launched (2/2). ad4: 1430799MB at ata2-master SATA300 ad6: 1430799MB at ata3-master SATA300 GEOM: mirror/gm0s1: geometry does not match label (16h,63s !=3D = 255h,63s). ad8: 1430799MB at ata4-master SATA300 ad10: 1430799MB at ata5-master SATA300 ad12: 1430799MB at ata6-master SATA300 ad14: 1430799MB at ata7-master SATA300 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Aside from different motherboards in the machines, the machine that is not working is has 2 x 3bay icy dock hot swap bays. Does anyone have any clues as to why this is happening? =20 Regards =20 Graeme From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 19:21:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272901065672; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555688FC15; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A318D.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.49.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBAJLlmB016233; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:21:47 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBAJLfgv080233; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBAJLQf1077338; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200912101921.nBAJLQf1077338@fire.js.berklix.net> To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:45:02 +0100." <20091210184502.30fce047@ernst.jennejohn.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:26 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:21:56 -0000 > Fortuantely, I had no problem setting up a "black" FreeBSD box to > preserve my sanity. A tip for those threatened with no BSD box at work: FreeBSD runs fine _inside_ a box that looks like a multi sheet scanner. OK, slow, but invisible to managers who require MS only. These scanners often lie abandoned in company junk rooms (& cheap on web), as people know they used to need MS's abandoned NT (= Not There) operating system. Well they do ... until one installs BSD. Credit to David M. who did the FreeBSD work. Pictures of hardware to look for in junk rooms: http://www.berklix.com/scanjet/ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text not quoted-printable, HTML or Base64: http://asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 19:32:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A530106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED7D8FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6EE1CCA5; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:31:58 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4B214CAD.7070500@hdk5.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:31:57 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4B20F4CD.8060009@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4B20F4CD.8060009@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Nicky Chorley , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:32:00 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: >> In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 16, Message: 8 >> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> >> > > >> > > However, I do not see any distributions listed that are prefixed with >> > > "X-". The choices are "All", "Reset", "Developer", "Kern-Developer", >> > > "User", "Minimal" and "Custom". Even the "Custom" option has nothing >> > > related to Xorg. >> > > >> > >> > That's correct, these have been removed. >> >> Hi Manolis, >> >> Look, I'm sorry, but I think this is a huge regression, especially if >> we're still hoping that people with no prior experience of installing >> freeBSD, people coming from Linux and such, for essentially or including >> desktop use, are going to have a rewarding installation experience. >> >> > > Is it supposed to be like this (i.e. no distributions containing X are >> > > presented on installation), or do I need to download other media from >> > > which to install? Note that I'm not asking how to install X and I >> > > realise that I can do it post-installation, but I'm just wondering >> > > whether I've made a mistake with my download or if the documentation >> > > is out of date. >> > > >> > >> > You've done nothing wrong, the documentation is in need of an update. >> > Please file a doc-bug PR. >> > Removing X from the distributions is a right step IMO, these are just >> > 3rd party packages and it seems confusing if they get installed along >> > with the base system. >> >> I think this is taking base-system-only installation purity to excess. >> >> > > On the other hand, I feel it is confusing when you find yourself > essentially selecting packages in the menus for the base-system components. > The DVD *still* has the packages, and you are still asked if you wish to > install any. Xorg is just one click away - select the meta-package and > the entire thing goes in. > >> Fine for people installing servers of course, and maybe it will shift >> more people wanting a GUI environment towards PC-BSD and such if we want >> to discourage these from using FreeBSD as it is (or maybe, was) but even >> with my 11 years experience of installing FrreeBSD versions from 2.2 >> till now, I kept on wondering, how would a newbie fare at this point? >> >> > > Having shown the FreeBSD installation to people only acquainted with > Windows or Ubuntu, I always get the same reaction: Completely > disheartening, confusing, complex. You need to know too many things and > when everything is done right, you are just rewarded with a console > login. This is a fact: FreeBSD is not for the faint of heart, and > definitely not for someone who wants a desktop in five minutes. You have > to get past the initial shock and devote a lot of time to learn your way > around the system. This requires considerable effort and there are lots > of people who have neither the time nor the inclination to dig deep into > an OS - they just want a working desktop. > IMHO an extra click for the Xorg is not that much important in the grand > scheme of things. I think it would be best if beginners are informed > beforehand that they really need to study: you will not get a working > desktop FreeBSD 'by chance' or because someone else configured the > defaults for you and you just restored an image to your hard drive (as I > understand, this is what most desktop-oriented Linux distros do these days) > > Now if we delve deeper into this we are going to hit philosophical > questions like "Do we want ignorant users?" "Is our setup procedure so > discouraging that even would-be-knowledgeable users abandon the system > early?" "Should we provide an Ubuntu-like BSD install?" > I can live with sysinstall myself, although I don't really like it. > There are numerous problems with it (and we had a long thread in the > past about it, so I am not going to repeat myself) with the added fact > that as the system progresses to new features (journaling, ZFS, gpart > ...) sysinstall "stands still" and does not provide any way to use them > during initial setup. > > I've introduced more than a few beginners to FreeBSD. I always warn them > beforehand what to expect - I only continue with those who are prepared > to study the handbook and a few (hundred...) pages of my introductory > notes. All of them are now happy, satisfied users. But none expected to > have a working desktop in five minutes. There are other distributions > for that (PC-BSD, Ubuntu) > >> > If you wish to install X during initial installation you can still do it >> > when you get to the packages stage. I believe you will need the DVD for >> > that. >> >> I used the memstick.img (discussed in another thread) and then FTP for >> installing packages. I've done this before using bootonly CDs, and it >> has advantages and disadvantages; for me it's been mostly positive. >> >> The main advantage is access to all packages. If you know what you >> want, and which categories they live in, it's great; an hour or so >> picking and away you go (modulo failures with this FTP site or that). >> There still exist people with slow net connections and older, slower >> kit for whom building everything from source would be very tedious. >> >> The main disadvantage is - access to all packages :) In the case of X, >> you and I, developers and most people here know to hunt for the Xorg >> meta-port. But the naive or new installer knows of no such thing, and >> could beat around in the huge lists of X software for ages, wondering >> what's required and what's not to get a desktop going. >> > > True. So I guess we really need a "Your first FreeBSD Desktop" article > to point to for first time installers. > X is just tip of the iceberg here, consider these: > > - How to setup xorg.conf, hal? > - What packages do I need for {GNOME,KDE,XFCE,You-Name-It-WM}? > - What is .xinitrc? How am I going to setup my login manager? > - Where is bash? Why are my locale settings wrong? > - Got into X finally, why isn't my flash drive automounted? > - ... > > All this info and more is available in the Handbook, but it is not > intended to be read as a sequential setup guide. There are far more > discouraging things even after you get X installed. > >> The previous basic setup menus in sysinstall for X were not only useful; >> I suspect that they are virtually essential for someone, say, coming >> from Debian or Ubuntu or such, wanting to try FreeBSD on their system, >> or the genuine first-time installer of FreeBSD. sysinstall used to >> assume as little prior knowledge or need to pre-read the Handbook and/or >> FAQ or follow the lists as possible. Now it's seeming much more firmly >> targeted at the already experienced user, and I feel that's regressive. >> >> cheers, Ian >> >> > > Quite frankly, I don't believe sysinstall has gotten any worse. But > there are so many easy installers out there for 5 minute setups, that > more and more users already come with the fixed mindset "it will install > in 5 minutes, I won't have to read anything" which clearly won't work. > But I believe PC-BSD fills the gap for them and it is getting better all > the time. > > Apologies for the long post :) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aloha , I have used the FreeBSD 7.* cd/dvd since Manolis put up the site for them. I have had no issues that were not controllable by configuration. His versions just work. You can also add your favorite wm by selecting it from ports. On the other hand with a Ubuntu HP Mini I could not install wireless automatically the way the GUI tries to do it. I had to make my own network file to over ride interferrng wireless from the military installations 1 Km from my house. I think Ubuntu must select the strongest signals and my netgear wireless didnt show up below strong military net signal. Manual settings work fine. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 19:32:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C353C1065696 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E048FC26 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1C0019D4B3A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:32:43 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvFaAELbIEtV4js3PGdsb2JhbACBS4JQlFGCUQEBAQE3rAeQFoEvgipSBIFjgTU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,376,1257116400"; d="scan'208";a="14044524" Received: from c-373be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.55]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 20:32:43 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBAJWgSR025650 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:32:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4B214CD9.2010706@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:32:41 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TW9yZ2FuIFdlc3N0csO2bQ==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091010) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <27ade5280912040912i53f9871cj9502afc941073bef@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <27ade5280912040912i53f9871cj9502afc941073bef@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SMP and ALTQ_NOPCC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:32:45 -0000 APseudoUtopia wrote: > Hello, > > With the improvements in SMP in FreeBSD 8.0, is the ALTQ_NOPCC option > still required? In the handbook and other older documentation, it says > ALTQ_NOPCC is in fact required on SMP systems because the TSC is > unstable. I was wondering if this is still the case after the > improvements done with SMP. > > Thanks. Not every CPU has an unstable TSC. It mostly affects AMD processors and Intel Pentium M. Wikipedia has a great listing of models and families affected: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Stamp_Counter#Implementation_in_Various_Processors However, in /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/tsc.c you can find the following code: #ifdef SMP /* * We can not use the TSC in SMP mode unless the TSCs on all CPUs * are somehow synchronized. Some hardware configurations do * this, but we have no way of determining whether this is the * case, so we do not use the TSC in multi-processor systems * unless the user indicated (by setting kern.timecounter.smp_tsc * to 1) that he believes that his TSCs are synchronized. */ if (mp_ncpus > 1 && !smp_tsc) tsc_timecounter.tc_quality = -100; #endif It will set the quality of the timestamp counter to -100 if SMP is detected and effectively disable it so by default the TSC won't be used on an SMP system and consequently you don't have to use ALTQ_NOPCC. It is "probably" safe to enable and use TSC in pf, as described in the code, if you have a modern Intel CPU but I have not tested it. Regards Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 19:54:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC08106568B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DD88FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (195.54.127.164) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1BC019FBF6D for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:34:34 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuZaADTcIEtV4js3PGdsb2JhbACBS5chglEBAQEBN7wYhCsEgWM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,376,1257116400"; d="scan'208";a="14041213" Received: from c-373be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.55]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 20:34:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBAJYW8a025699 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:34:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4B214D48.9060000@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:34:32 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091010) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20091030034812.GU29215@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Get the cwd of a process? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:54:57 -0000 patrick wrote: > I've made some headway... perl supports "sitecustomize.pl" which can > be used to execute code when any perl script is run. It doesn't seem > to be enabled by default, so I had to add the following line to > /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/Makefile's CONFIGURE_ARGS: > > -Dusesitecustomize \ > > As a temporary measure, my sitecustomize.pl has: > > system "echo $$ $ENV{'PWD'} $0 ". (localtime) . " >>/tmp/scripts_used.lst"; > > (found this in another thread somewhere) > > So, hopefully the next time this spammer comes back, I will see the > original working directory, etc. before the process forks itself. > Fingers crossed! > > Patrick For the mail archives and also my personal interest - did you ever figure out what was running the script? /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 20:06:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1393C1065670 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB9D68FC14 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79240 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2009 20:06:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=r1DrO64DbPwgq/Z9uu2OUaT/SY0/M6qBBngNLsIGZ0xbagkY1TT6foZoSkbrO5QkFWjXku6URfxSx+jmgJbtMUwHfxQv/sPnraCUXUUlCMmKZ+LEIrqn3AEujgyiJG2PmSwxvGnxrYNXKA6kdj54emvRA6Tl83sHQx0mLeg8Bks= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2009 12:06:40 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: QQ.DiN0VM1lKXMwEalHI3M9ASVKSYp0ZMTGmoOkHFbsji68RbZwHNS3HcHAcQcUZVtuTE8jKmynI8xBWhafpNVQbeTdXXa5htO0MvL1mrDn4iIklQZwg.dd2xH3ii2QtOhXZ4xtPAkYq17ZJ7_dcK_m8vrwa80ULHCZQMtrW.yyBvHyUc0QrfV6OJinUYSf7iYhSK9gIpayxXffYOQefIZ1gPCEb7y33ASFu5e6d_MAcUVDzNU51MmSI6L6mMfckTo3b._Dz6RYTzOoxVREWVXd4RDzyDJKBYFNrqJgfyOEBZRb4KP7H36zl0YYE X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F086228B1 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:06:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:06:39 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091210150639.2da33de4@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <200912101921.nBAJLQf1077338@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <20091210184502.30fce047@ernst.jennejohn.org> <200912101921.nBAJLQf1077338@fire.js.berklix.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.4; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:06:42 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:26 +0100 Julian H. Stacey replied: >> Fortuantely, I had no problem setting up a "black" FreeBSD box to >> preserve my sanity. > >A tip for those threatened with no BSD box at work: >FreeBSD runs fine _inside_ a box that looks like a multi sheet scanner. >OK, slow, but invisible to managers who require MS only. > >These scanners often lie abandoned in company junk rooms (& cheap >on web), as people know they used to need MS's abandoned NT (= Not >There) operating system. Well they do ... until one installs BSD. >Credit to David M. who did the FreeBSD work. Pictures of hardware >to look for in junk rooms: http://www.berklix.com/scanjet/ > >Cheers, >Julian Out of pure morbid curiosity, would you please answer this question for me. You work for a corporation that specifically requires the use of a specific OS, the OS itself is not material to this question. It also forbids the use of any unauthorized OS or equipment on the companies network. You decide to ignore their directives and eventually: 1) Get caught 2) Cause a problem with the company's network, etc. Now, when you get fired and possible charged with a crime, do you: 1) Cry and bitch that they are being unfair? 2) Accept the fact that you deserved to be dismissed? Where I use to work, two or three employees were fired each year because they thought they knew more than everyone else. They failed to realize that they were being compensated to do what they were told and not what they thought they should be doing. The bottom line is if they are not smart enough to follow company directives, they are certainly not capable of instigating their own protocol. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | Grandpa Charnock's Law: You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive. [I thought it was when your kids learned to drive. Ed.] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 20:11:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6C6106566B; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98F88FC0A; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so156680ywh.7 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:11:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hTcR64QAYzqrP4SmqPcaBrsgNOJb1XbfvVreq9iULwQ=; b=C4/mAUvhv5inVXTi4nXgLhMyXpEwJMFsWpDLkDPqg4QbPATJskNujinPeIGW+StTyr a+coETNZXFxI5oXaMVKpru0XLQpiRhd7IgNjyWXy/jUYMlB6wlnUEnQYUBD4fmxajqbJ fOOBBWR8bUlCcrgwdpAvJ3HcElLGgPrtqFWJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=V+H6lgcxnQSntU++3+zm0vgq8NrZJ7BFixKmZ+7WC7foWXo2Ma0k3lO1TR93rOSRYk vO5fglkmdkC+D5ocPTLChV8nQp+Te4VUPRkB3bDnEe8Jd1Oc1xnto+ziGZocoUNvuFkJ WHqFJSUyBTGecpXgXn/qJdSJnT3Av+km3utFw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.105.17 with SMTP id h17mr645490agm.62.1260475891250; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:11:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:11:31 -0500 Message-ID: <5d6848b00912101211m20c20995x212ac7e5093df42c@mail.gmail.com> From: Kevin Wilcox To: Anton Shterenlikht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:11:32 -0000 2009/12/10 Anton Shterenlikht : > I was just stressed after being forced by him > to explain why I wanted firewall exceptions > for two ports to my FreeBSD portscluster nodes. > I explained the reasons and that was settled. Anton, I don't know about the UK, Great Britain or England, but in US Universities, this is fairly common. It just serves as a sanity check for the many, many requests central IT tends to get regarding allowing ingress traffic for faculty/staff machines, and it gives the firewall guys documentation that such-and-such machine should be receiving inbound traffic on specific ports. > The Uni is, of course, > addicted to Microsoft, but having realised all > the problems with that, lately the policy has > been to deny (!) MS users admin access to their > own desktops. The situation is just ridiculous - > if a MS user wants to install a piece of software > on their PC he/she has to ask for permission, > and then wait until some computer officer would > come and do install for them. Again, I don't know about the UK, Great Britain or England, but in the US this is also quite common, at least with regards to University owned hardware. The first responsibility is to protect the network and existing services. Sadly, many groups fail to provide the next step, that being a relatively quick, easy way to have approved software installed for users, and a method for having non-approved software scrutinised and either approved or rejected. > Also recently, well.. about a year ago, no > host (!) could be accessed from outside the > Uni firewall. Special exception has to be > obtained even for ssh. There is only one dedicated > sun server which accepts only ssh. The users > are supposed to dial to this frontend server > first, and from there to hosts on the local net. Again, quite common. Most Universities here do not provide public-facing IP addresses without some sort of application and approval process. For example, we have a handful of machines that are public facing but most of our hardware sits inside site-only networks. To access those machines you either have to be on-campus or you have to connect via VPN (and yes, we support Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris, *BSD). Having an SSH proxy isn't an entirely bad idea, though I can see where performance may be hindered. > I had to fight a long battle, well.. I had > some support from other academics, to have > a linux class in my Faculty. Here the > opposition wasn't so much security, as > "why would any undegraduate need linux", > as if MS solutions are a pinnacle of human thought. That's a pretty fair question and one that I hope you would have asked yourself before you made the push for the class. > And from I understand it's going to get worse. > Apparently the IT services are drawing up > plans to completely forbid use of "non-autorized" > OS. I imagine fbsd will not be authorized. > So I'm anticipating another battle already. Does this extend to computers used for academic research, student owned computers being used on campus, etc? Perhaps it's because we're conditioned to think this way but a lot of us at universities in the US see a lot of this as being commonplace and to *not* do them is generally considered bad security practice. kmw -- Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so - Unattributed, post 9/11 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 20:12:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6279E106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA2D8FC1F for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBAKBw9O043341; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:11:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 243E5BAA1; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:11:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:11:58 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: David Naylor Message-ID: <20091210201158.GA4585@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <200912100939.07116.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200912100939.07116.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monolithic vs Modular Kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:12:00 -0000 --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:39:03AM +0200, David Naylor wrote: > Also, is there anyway to detect if there are hardware without drivers (su= ch as=20 > a sound card without any snd_ loaded) and to detect the type of device (e= =2Eg.=20 > network, usb, sound, graphics)? pciconf -lv|less Every device name (the lines with the @ in them) that starts with 'none' do= es not have a driver loaded. The following lines show you what kind of device = it is. > Lastly, is there any way to determine what 'modules' a kernel is build wi= th? ls /boot/kernel/ All the files that end in .ko are loadable modules. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkshVg4ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV25QCfQItJlUsros8YGSBfneLgJ5Rl EvsAn1Ivw0rJsmNR8dNUPciB0n83aRJa =Nh6F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 20:58:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1302A1065670 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC7F8FC1C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4C8BD34D453; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:58:46 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:58:46 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.4; amd64; ; ) References: <20091210184502.30fce047@ernst.jennejohn.org> <200912101921.nBAJLQf1077338@fire.js.berklix.net> <20091210150639.2da33de4@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20091210150639.2da33de4@scorpio.seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912102058.46242.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:58:52 -0000 > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:26 +0100 > > Julian H. Stacey replied: > >> Fortuantely, I had no problem setting up a "black" FreeBSD box to > >> preserve my sanity. > > > >A tip for those threatened with no BSD box at work: > >FreeBSD runs fine _inside_ a box that looks like a multi sheet scanner. > >OK, slow, but invisible to managers who require MS only. > > > >These scanners often lie abandoned in company junk rooms (& cheap > >on web), as people know they used to need MS's abandoned NT (= Not > >There) operating system. Well they do ... until one installs BSD. > >Credit to David M. who did the FreeBSD work. Pictures of hardware > >to look for in junk rooms: http://www.berklix.com/scanjet/ > > > >Cheers, > >Julian > > Out of pure morbid curiosity, would you please answer this question for > me. > > You work for a corporation that specifically requires the use of > a specific OS, the OS itself is not material to this question. It also > forbids the use of any unauthorized OS or equipment on the companies > network. You decide to ignore their directives and eventually: > > 1) Get caught > 2) Cause a problem with the company's network, etc. > > Now, when you get fired and possible charged with a crime, do you: > > 1) Cry and bitch that they are being unfair? > 2) Accept the fact that you deserved to be dismissed? > > Where I use to work, two or three employees were fired each year > because they thought they knew more than everyone else. They failed to > realize that they were being compensated to do what they were told and > not what they thought they should be doing. The bottom line is if they > are not smart enough to follow company directives, they are certainly > not capable of instigating their own protocol. > most **** lickers are not very smart either. David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 21:18:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C29106566B for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf01.insightbb.com (mxsf01.insightbb.com [74.128.0.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781C58FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:18:33 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,377,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="782422709" Received: from unknown (HELO mxsf11.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.227]) by mxsf01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 16:18:32 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAN/zIEvQLicL/2dsb2JhbACBS9YshCsEgWM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,377,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="8809814" Received: from unknown (HELO asav02.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf11.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 16:18:32 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,377,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="339966000" Received: from 208-46-39-11.dia.static.qwest.net (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([208.46.39.11]) by asavout02.manage.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 16:18:14 -0500 From: Steven Friedrich To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:18:08 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p5; KDE/4.3.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912101618.08569.freebsd@insightbb.com> Cc: Subject: uath under FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:18:34 -0000 I installed FreeBSD8.0-RELEASE so I could see if it's compatible with my Netgear WG111T (this is newly supported in 8.0). Not surprising, uath (the new driver) is not in GENERIC (oopps, yes it is), so I copied GENERIC to LAPTOP3 and commented out most of the drivers, since I don't need them. I ensured that uath was not commented. Please note, as I wrote this I checked GENERIC and uath IS there, but it didn't get loaded because I don't see it with ifconfig... I added KERNCONF=LAPTOP3 to /etc/make.conf, went to /usr/src and rebuilt just the kernel, figuring the world was already sync'ed with GENERIC. The uath isn't showing up after a reboot. Do I need to buildworld/installworld or do I have to use uathload to load firmware? I figure the device already has firmware and I'd only have to use uathload if I got newer firmware from Netgear. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 21:22:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3211065679 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf01.insightbb.com (mxsf01.insightbb.com [74.128.0.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B545F8FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:22:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,377,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="782424039" Received: from unknown (HELO mxsf11.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.227]) by mxsf01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 16:22:13 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAAv1IEvQLicL/2dsb2JhbACBS9Y8hCsE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,377,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="8811032" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf11.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 16:22:13 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,377,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="116914164" Received: from 208-46-39-11.dia.static.qwest.net (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([208.46.39.11]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2009 16:22:13 -0500 From: Steven Friedrich To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:22:11 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p5; KDE/4.3.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912101622.11577.freebsd@insightbb.com> Cc: Subject: dcons_crom in FreeBSD8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:22:14 -0000 I figured the world and the kernel are in sync on the DVD, so I tried to rebuild just the kernel. Is this assumption valid? It failed to link due to symbols like dcons_crom. So I commented dcons_crom out of my kernel config. Is this actually a bug or do I need to buildworld/installworld? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 22:16:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F251065672 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 232747@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87D18FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so270748ywh.7 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:16:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+ZhUd0od7vk6oDIk5+b8CROo0ca3q93ScxpONSC53IU=; b=YCHZIpYFUrusNf339tdTmrBVJrBQFQWX1E4MN8hJqYawEWC3yUePGiRMFneB7tZNGr el/0aY6i/OD/yMiiqwhHtyfg0hZjgM5AdfhaXUSI97SpFccQkSa5RKwlTWHMOWSyqPJL EM76yfR+CXYZ0uvaMEaJchOUR6+pDN89BiWVU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xQRl7a/2h8bf5LMEO/kL06+Xes53YdbOMUHWjlnhW+cCLR/kBrIvqH0mDTOkkDV1DL lRBgOJLm/sYXSUMFrkHXHA4Gt8D6KIQlT1hJwBWZDDMPathrAIpUyIY0CqOgeoIfz8kl 34VClhermeY8p5eBc4rnu4iEmsXSxKuyKud/w= Received: by 10.150.4.14 with SMTP id 14mr1173273ybd.168.1260483398715; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:16:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.250? (173-16-22-10.client.mchsi.com [173.16.22.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm766241iwn.14.2009.12.10.14.16.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:16:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: 23 23 <232747@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B217344.6050109@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:16:36 -0600 From: "Corey J. Bukolt" <0.23@mail.ru> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091024) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B1F5263.1060907@mail.ru> <20091210145411.279939ad@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20091210145411.279939ad@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Temporarily halt boot process to enter encryption keys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:16:40 -0000 RW wrote: > On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:31:47 -0600 > "Corey J. Bukolt" <0.23@mail.ru> wrote: > > >> Hello list, >> >> I have a FreeNAS box with a CF card for root, and 3 drives (soon to be >> 4) set up with encryption and raidz on top of them. >> A less than excellent detailed report of what I did is here: >> http://bit.ly/5BeZq8 >> This setup is a bit hackish as after the system boots I need to attach >> each drive using geli, run "zpool import -f primary", and then restart >> all my services (nfs, samba, etc). >> >> It's become a bit of a chore (especially when doing it all from a >> N810), so I'm looking for a way to temporary halt the boot process so >> that I can ssh in, attach the drives, and then allow the system to >> continue to boot. >> >> > > It's fairly trivial to write an rc.d script that pauses the boot > process and waits for devices, but sshd runs after LOGIN, and nfs runs > before, so you can't easily reorder then without maintaining modified > rc.d scripts. > > > I don't see the point though. Why not just write a script to do > what you are doing now? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > You are right that I could very well just write a script and be done with it, but I'm trying to find a more elegant approch. Starting up a whole bunch of services that are going to error, killing them, then restarting seems to me as a messy approch. Perhaps if I put a rc.d script before nfs that calls a lightweight sshd, such as dropbear, and waits for all the drives to be attached with geli. Once they are, the script kills sshd and the boot continues as normal. Think that would work? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 22:55:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAE6106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFF08FC15 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A203296068559E6; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:55:03 +0000 Message-ID: <4B217C46.6080000@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:55:02 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Nicky Chorley , Polytropon , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:55:26 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:08 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: >> > >> >>> But the naive or new installer knows of no such thing, and >>> could beat around in the huge lists of X software for ages, wondering >>> what's required and what's not to get a desktop going. >>> >> Therefore, I always liked the choice for X in sysinstall: It >> basically installed all the components to get X up and running. >> No big trouble getting the correct xorg-driver-* packages, >> installing and removing them, the xorg-input-* packages with >> the same story... >> >> >> > There is an X.org meta-package that installs everything though. It is > just a problem with the beginner not knowing what to select. This can be > tackled in two ways IMO, first is by creating a "First time FreeBSD > desktop installer" type article, second would be adding a menu choice in > sysinstall "Install a standard X desktop {GNOME,KDE}". I must admit I > much prefer the first solution. Agree with most of the above except I think an X option and a separate desktop option in sysinstall is better - not everyone who wants X also wants gnome or kde. Oh wait that's how it used to be :) The problem with an article is how to view it during an install and how to know it is even there. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 23:44:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F8F106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB2D8FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so267162pzk.3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:44:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=2313UOQEi2uNwLNHZMEjw/EnxBB2FHfUpLBP9VEnXUo=; b=Uk6M5EFP3QDqVAEjALCIZdaPBnEp1/8ger/PXd9YmChBVyDTq9WTTIZeVevKxQNUmq hGR4KgJODPd3YTfYZk6Vt+HREROxhDUoAR4UVOqQaBI/FU5ZuSIH7TGLdpAei9TScXqH wR6ENJBLEuqFrZd7t/RUM8mt26Vx/MDfvKReo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XKiZwpsFDhPweq5olk7YaJjGEQCezpqkbMLTh6cZdMMoRyWO9uGXMvYpa9HJSIO0z+ sma8m6VRO4i0loQMVhXIgtMCYUi2TQQkW2aWAjaaral2KDabDupvLxAqk+X96Cl12+b6 i/q1u0QlKBqcnVV9oSKCbsv2Rr7u/lrUaZenc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.101.18 with SMTP id d18mr368167wam.191.1260488656097; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:44:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:44:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tsu-Fan Cheng To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: error when updating ports in 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:44:16 -0000 Hi, Just update to release 8.0 a few days ago, then when update ports by csup, error occurs: Fatal error 'kse_create() failed ' at line 469 in file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_kern.c (errno = 0) what should I do? thank you!! TFC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 00:48:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19911065670 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@soe.ucsc.edu) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534C08FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D48610080E6 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:48:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gXwJWFL2-aPe for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0160410080E1 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:48:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:48:10 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Gustafson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2113143343.752061260492490914.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [128.114.49.22] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.20_GA_3127.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 ([unknown])/5.0.20_GA_3127.RHEL5_64) Subject: FreeBSD and automountMap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:48:11 -0000 Hi, I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction in regard to getting automounts working via LDAP-distributed automountMap-style maps? We are already using automountMap-style maps distributed via LDAP for a few thousand Linux, Mac and SunOS clients and I'd like to be able to use the same maps for my FreeBSD machines too, but I can't seem to find any clear documentation on how to set this up. I've Googled lots of different things - the word "FreeBSD" with "autofo", "autmount", "automountMap", etc. I've found lots of stuff about amd, but amd does not appear to support automountMap-style maps. I also found a mount_autofs in /usr/src/sbin/mount_autofs, but that appears to not be installed by default, and when manually compiled it's non-functional. I did find one reference to someone that ported autofs to FreeBSD, but then was asked by Apple to take his code down. Please note that we're -not- talking about older NIS-style maps. We -were- using them for our Linux, Mac and SunOS clients until recently, and have been switching over to the newer automountMap style for a while now. I'm having a hard time believing that FreeBSD is the only UNIX-like OS that seems to be lacking this sort of autofs support. Is that really the case? Tim Gustafson Baskin School of Engineering UC Santa Cruz tjg@soe.ucsc.edu 831-459-5354 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 00:52:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B8E1065672 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26928FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEC33A3857 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:52:23 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1260492742; x= 1262307142; bh=gBi6nuMkZvi0mj2h+oYu0HjkRbhS9Wa9R20Hf9YE91s=; b=n nYVfHOsBrfI+5b3MHSogIejv/GuJHY6omDk0OFdx1bkZRRiiTREp8lFYkm14DkVf a/IsQ7asiZkUJ2fVOT6EIE6Kp9S02pB2rI7NXcdLML4ZDjjDLbpEv4dk2kZsR2so b90YlqBTEBSLK00ZFUukESRtHBfUI945EQR9jseMMc= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id RwbfqUuUGcBn for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:52:22 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8667C3A3844 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:52:22 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBB0qMUQ018858; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:52:22 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:52:22 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912110052.nBB0qMUQ018858@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> (message from Bill Moran on Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:51:22 -0500) References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:52:25 -0000 > > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a > > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: > > > > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html > > Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot? Does he Give the infosec guy a break. he has been so busy fixing the other OSes that he never noticed how many FreeBSD system are in use in his own place, nor that they went with relatively satisfactory security level. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 01:39:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20A2106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A968FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-24-6-221-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.221.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBB1dD6o082203 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:39:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:39:12 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:39:14 -0000 Hi, I am getting this fatal error: Unable to create symlink for lock '/home/yuri/.googleearth/instance-running-lock'. File exists. google-earth-5.1.3509.4636 8.0-STABLE Thanks, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 01:42:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F731065676 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC2A8FC29 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so540035fxm.3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:42:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9lqUdCYVhB/3jJ9wqFNEJpQ7aAkA3sDCy2/noU6PUIg=; b=TevRrWOtGBN5x6jHHij+0zujcTQep2fznHX6cBfFq11mx43obv9DI0BQfYRbeHbYN7 G1is1ePZaE8i335S5IJwqbLP9lKJ8o1GXBsTa3BSJeTGsjUzlS4ZQINlgvx2hCTz8pEE s4cRW4Be7Fuox7daq1Jxh3Wjmudpvuf8EbJSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L0tJtqZX9EwSnN97DxhsOwiPBOIrzuFi0Lb+4g/LW5fw2xtBePEIVi5iz1TuNVsfHN WPBFy1aUDpZ/chQtor6vb1scvMmqKjlHxhitiT7C2xUoaTU8DHDKehGZmw32Et8hVqEG BwgNnP3pXknChSImjr/084C00UBrFsZ+7/uVM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.142 with SMTP id 14mr739533faz.43.1260495773946; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:42:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> References: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:42:53 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: yuri@rawbw.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:55 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Yuri wrote: > Hi, > > I am getting this fatal error: > Unable to create symlink for lock > '/home/yuri/.googleearth/instance-running-lock'. =A0File exists. > Remove the file? Or rename it? --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 01:46:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDF6106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C728FC17 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:46:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-24-6-221-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.221.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBB1km1L083880; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:46:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B21A487.5010200@rawbw.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:46:47 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:46:49 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > > Remove the file? Or rename it? > I wouldn't ask this question if it was that easy. There is even no such directory: /home/yuri/.googleearth Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 01:50:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2EF1065670 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB458FC15 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so543712fxm.3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Npwk/yclt0FJTlfkUB6Wvr3K0Xy1Twme/VH16EOgu8U=; b=xdhszIXRP3+oho/YFrFeU4ej/7zPKI3smIY+3EwVzPYfiujxX4iwxGdC+mFVFU7R+2 7ip9n3k96fNo5kyvvm4pu76pHs+bkC87PIxOSf7/mSrKvgKatmr3fA4IoVKsEB2k7a50 R5BHVwywK2PVp2PoOuKRUoUXeh2e35GJOLJ8w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EO6lrj98RMN/lY9zvJUuIeTqilXjivZF0YLafR3y6fgx5qhMMFWs0Nwgq4jsC5ZB1Q +egNt8d5iGhR94z8hwaxGBBPeI71xHsb8XvXbJoeza2YM8dhvYIRzNBY2OuDSaoyNYp2 WUgUfJH2YS7KBN1XcV+KM5Jk9GQ3F+kWs/x6Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.7.21 with SMTP id b21mr612944fab.104.1260496202035; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B21A487.5010200@rawbw.com> References: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <4B21A487.5010200@rawbw.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:50:01 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912101750w8c9b7a3lf4885d6a9959b41b@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: yuri@rawbw.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:50:04 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Yuri wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: >> >> Remove the file? =A0Or rename it? >> > > > I wouldn't ask this question if it was that easy. > There is even no such directory: /home/yuri/.googleearth Could you provide possibly important information such as this in future questions? Have you tried creating the directory? --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 01:54:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A580B106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from archon@silvertree.org) Received: from arthur.silvertree.org (arthur.silvertree.org [173.11.101.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C7918FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54370 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2009 17:54:01 -0800 Received: from webn1.ofoto.com (HELO pendragon.ofoto.com) (66.128.224.196) by arthur.silvertree.org with SMTP; 10 Dec 2009 17:54:01 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) From: Scott Schappell In-Reply-To: <0FBEBD48-9455-4202-9410-91FC3117406B@silvertree.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:54:00 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <7DB8B92D-0F1A-4A59-ACC8-0AAFDEF8239D@silvertree.org> References: <0FBEBD48-9455-4202-9410-91FC3117406B@silvertree.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: FIXED: idled not disconnecting idle users on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:54:01 -0000 I enabled UseLogin in sshd_config. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 01:55:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D861065670 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8E18FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:55:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-24-6-221-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.221.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBB1tMbE085269; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:55:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B21A689.2040906@rawbw.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:55:21 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <4B21A487.5010200@rawbw.com> <4ad871310912101750w8c9b7a3lf4885d6a9959b41b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310912101750w8c9b7a3lf4885d6a9959b41b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:55:23 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > Have you tried creating the directory? > Creating it doesn't help. But I solved the problem: when it talks about /home/yuri/~.googleearth it actually means /compat/linux/home/yuri/.googleearth/ Deleting file there fixes the problem. I guess it's a good idea to have a link /compat/linux/home ->/home Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 02:23:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AC5106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick.dalsheimer@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0808FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 19so308185fgg.13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:23:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rdzP19YQ+Ha1CxzaWESN3zBwoB74eJwvS8DEWisVPrI=; b=YSM9YBgqV68W21aeZ/GTD4vmYDYyU6u0FxHOfQ6K/VIkZYiwJjMtmebGjfwpPX+Xnp ncUTNgDOL4SMgkFiUh38miwdk+hzK3eJE2AfGo/TTPs/gwZ1d4lCrQAma1sgW9nR7YM9 7qptBppgae6qDKyrrxYEMqWoobHpP/47hCOo8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=b28Psag7pRwipQB0UulzNErBwPQZFoG9jcourF/dzFFAGAoZD+u9c6l5sn+2sY1HVH Sj/cFp+JXI+6MTB+T9CFg/0neJcOsOAK0/iup1ealNcLgU4wx1LPVpNctdouOnrXbMWy 22hP2eL4Ss0C5ugeI7Vw5v0yPJacvpyrM8BO4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.87.62.6 with SMTP id p6mr1111123fgk.10.1260498210512; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:23:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B2142A7.1010608@sbcglobal.net> References: <434e042e0912100947y36fadc3bjdb53812196cb6333@mail.gmail.com> <4B2142A7.1010608@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:23:30 -0500 Message-ID: <434e042e0912101823t7e1580e6ic42e814f6e5696d1@mail.gmail.com> From: Nick Dalsheimer To: "J.D. Bronson" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk/bsdlabel/disklabel: Class not found? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:23:32 -0000 So we are saying, that bsdlabel and fdisk are broken? This is *very* disappointing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 02:42:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A921065670 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmontalvo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326AC8FC1C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so354563pzk.3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:42:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Yy4E+f2sUEYH3vFC3BEornC7FFWjBCc2krsuJnSG6gQ=; b=Ol+gYtZAXgg84NC5FZxVXH7KxBZ8NyzNAvxi5nLgyUmel2drL+bPzoXYvfO2EgmXtG +2V81uNEVEiEc3VIMhIoAXEtRKJAdt8gBiOjwBpn9UpyH/1YeHmYa0U26xabL/AGqLUD OBq7N2QhRKuC9v9w/wM8Afv6q3A1SaDblIvzI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=f0e1pGrzMjL/4k8qr9mXPV6ZtMcM49gKIZMCPzDvHE/AjIIXPgSrTsRtArTTbeHOgU K1jaX+56Q7vTIDXss64CeW0qlLfeFsY/rTNrhZy7PxWArxz6E0iVWNbS8aaiP1kvpEdU c8VHi6YF9zTw1NWC/skxNsJ6NQsjYdQuaY+RQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.1.14 with SMTP id 14mr473361wfa.73.1260499355780; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:42:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:42:35 -0800 Message-ID: From: Diego Montalvo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: XFCE4 Errors on FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:42:36 -0000 Have upgraded my 7.1 RELEASE clean install (no ports) to 8.0 RELEASE using "freebsd-update upgrade -r 8.0-RELEASE" and everything installed correctly and works fine. Updated the Ports tree using "portsnap" and then tried to Install "usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4" but to no avail... I get the following errors: Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-wm. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-wm. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4. Anyone encounter the same problem installing "xfce4"? Thanks in advance! Diego From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 02:49:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5521065692 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C5A58FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27842 invoked by uid 89); 11 Dec 2009 02:56:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 11 Dec 2009 02:56:27 -0000 Message-ID: <4B21B332.1030203@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:49:22 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091210184502.30fce047@ernst.jennejohn.org> <200912101921.nBAJLQf1077338@fire.js.berklix.net> <20091210150639.2da33de4@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20091210150639.2da33de4@scorpio.seibercom.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:49:36 -0000 Jerry wrote: > Out of pure morbid curiosity, would you please answer this question for > me. > > You work for a corporation that specifically requires the use of > a specific OS, the OS itself is not material to this question. It also > forbids the use of any unauthorized OS or equipment on the companies > network. You decide to ignore their directives and eventually: > > 1) Get caught > 2) Cause a problem with the company's network, etc. > > Now, when you get fired and possible charged with a crime, do you: > > 1) Cry and bitch that they are being unfair? > 2) Accept the fact that you deserved to be dismissed? Accept, humbly. The majority of companies that I have worked for that have a 'policy', have a 'policy' that is extremely spread thin. Personally, I've never _breached_ policy... I've always expressed to the proper level of management as to *why* something needs to be done differently. With that said, again, in your case, I'll resign, gleefully, as my next contract picks me up for being diligent. > Where I use to work, two or three employees were fired each year > because they thought they knew more than everyone else. They failed to > realize that they were being compensated to do what they were told and > not what they thought they should be doing. Then the managers have the wrong attitude...completely. I will only allow myself to be hired as an employee or contractor if the person hiring me is doing so because they expect to gain something from my knowledge and experience. Only a monkey is paid to do what they are told. I don't do that. I couldn't do that. If that is what you do, I feel sorry for you. > The bottom line is if they > are not smart enough to follow company directives, they are certainly > not capable of instigating their own protocol. ...companies that enforce their staff to do what they are told will collapse. People who take their pay cheque just because they sit there and do what they are told hate their job. I love my job, I love my work. I am underpaid, but I do what I *LOVE*. I direct our company through innovation, ingenuity, integrity and risk. If I had to sit at a desk and do the same thing every day because my company told me to, I'd rather..... never mind... it'll be archived. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 03:16:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E461065672 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mpd@jesters-court.net) Received: from jcnetns.yclan.net (216-164-162-123.pa.subnet.cable.rcn.com [216.164.162.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDEF8FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (c-24-5-80-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.5.80.38]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mpd@jcnetns.yclan.net) by jcnetns.yclan.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C98B925A3C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:58:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:55:08 -0800 From: mpd To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:16:30 -0000 I just updated my system from 7.2 to 8.0 STABLE. What do I need to do to make my mouse work in X again? This system has an unbroken chain of fbsd since 2.2.6, but I'm about to drop it due to this. This is horrible. Please respond directly. I dropped this list in the '90s. peace, -mpd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 03:19:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29C31065697 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C3C8FC1B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10so580105fxm.34 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:19:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Umk1iEL8utIcnjrZamBzFbE8aCfoUD59BwLcpQI0a9A=; b=S5gaAPxBBqmhHSvlDUVaLAlq1OMg6n9ClVpSrRxsABOW0TTzH2ZWXRM4YDCnTL7Pgc rjJvymUpTKkr/9VUsUMnN/aQ+5ybiiIokcid13tTMie1QBhc5OkJzvHMpZiURULxNJfv sGLP3sycQX/+v0365IGuXBaiuxHL3mT7EdQSQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bVzN8pUBBWkoforG9p6/ENhe3aqWK9ut82Cv0CExObbBS6iZORq47zWDOdKOmjH6uV +GhLk00pzeU1h49MSgzJAmy0Nd0H4CXhSD5qaF2BccacYP9VynZQbB+laIwOscQeUD6N 7AcoRx+D+7tDqB3ISs/b1eIg5UFEO0I4e/k7M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.14.22 with SMTP id e22mr832195faa.42.1260501583290; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:19:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:19:43 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: mpd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:19:44 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:55 PM, mpd wrote: > I just updated my system from 7.2 to 8.0 STABLE. What do I need to do to > make my mouse work in X again? This system has an unbroken chain of > fbsd since 2.2.6, but I'm about to drop it due to this. This is > horrible. > Since you have given no information on what the symptoms are, nor on what you have tried, I'll take a long-shot here: Have a look ate the 20090124/20090123 entries of /usr/ports/UPDATING -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 03:48:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6E3106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5B18FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:48:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677AC1E33B; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:48:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBB3mOYS001561; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:48:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:48:24 +0100 From: Polytropon To: jackoroses@gmail.com Message-Id: <20091211044824.5275b6ea.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1d001f850912100557n7cd73b64g61e130e0148bb434@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> <1d001f850912100557n7cd73b64g61e130e0148bb434@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:48:28 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:57:44 -0500, Mike L wrote: > all I gotta say is I just spent 3 days compiling gnome2 for fbsd.. > It shouldn't take that long or be that hard/complicated. I recognized increased compiling times since FreeBSD 7. I was told that this is due to much more optimization in the compiler. Okay, this is understandable, but why do the compiledprograms run much slower (on the same hardware)? Answer: Bloat and many dependency dependencies. At least that's what I think. The developers of the FreeBSD OS do an excellent job delivering a system that runs faster and better on the same hardware, but all these advantages seem to be taken away by "modern" applications. That's why compiling stuff myself is nearly a no-go for my desktop. Only mplayer and mencoder (due to options that HAVE to be set at compile time, mostly involving codecs to include, as well as optimization). If you say that you needed 3 days for Gnome 2 - and I assume you own recent hardware - what should I say then with my more than 5 years old P4 / 2GHz? Compiling bigger applications won't be possible (in reasonable time) anymore in the future unless you buy a new computer every year... What a discouraging idea, I hope I'm not right with this. > Back to the gnome > install let it run again until the next application configuration screen. There's an option for avoiding this ugly interactivity. You can go through all imaginabel confire screens and set them first, then let the process run without requiring your presence. > You can't just do a make config in the meta port for the entire process.. > That would be too easy.. I think it is "make config-recursive"... > Last time I did a Xorg installed I just ended up doing a pkg_add because I > grew tired of the problems I kept having with ports griping about this and > that being outdated or whatever. Yes, pkg_add is very welcome to most users I know, incuding myself. The downside is that there are situations when there's no package for a port (e. g. due to legal reasons or the many different options). Can you imagine that in the past you could easily "pkg_add -r de-openoffice" to install the german version of OpenOffice? > My intention with fbsd wasn't for a desktop though; but why install linux to > get a feel for X(org) when we can do it on fbsd? Yet why should it feel like > I'm a circus poodle trying to make it work? Allthough it's not uncomplicated, it's not THAT complicated. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 03:49:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DC3106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mpd@jesters-court.net) Received: from jcnetns.yclan.net (216-164-162-123.pa.subnet.cable.rcn.com [216.164.162.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1498FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (c-24-5-80-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.5.80.38]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mpd@jcnetns.yclan.net) by jcnetns.yclan.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8241825A3D; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:49:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:46:29 -0800 From: mpd To: Glen Barber Message-ID: <20091211034629.GA71275@jesters-court.net> References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, mpd Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:49:32 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:19:43PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:55 PM, mpd wrote: > > I just updated my system from 7.2 to 8.0 STABLE. What do I need to do to > > make my mouse work in X again? This system has an unbroken chain of > > fbsd since 2.2.6, but I'm about to drop it due to this. This is > > horrible. > > > > Since you have given no information on what the symptoms are, nor on > what you have tried, I'll take a long-shot here: > > Have a look ate the 20090124/20090123 entries of /usr/ports/UPDATING > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" was the fix. Thanks! > > > -- > Glen Barber -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 03:52:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951911065672 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BDE8FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754041E8BA; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:52:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBB3qbd4001568; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:52:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:52:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <20091211045237.b1c089e6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091210145056.GA826@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091210145056.GA826@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Doug Sampson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP USB 2.0 Tape Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:52:39 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:50:56 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > I don't think you will have a problem using a USB2 interface. > But, I really cannot recommend DAT. That type of system seems > to have been pushed beyond its ability. The tapes fail > frequently. What about Ultrium tape? Is it better? > But, if you can't read what you thought you wrote, it > doesn't matter how fast you can search for it. A backup not readable is NOT a backup. And because it isn't, your hard disks will fail. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 03:55:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C898106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:55:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9CA8FC16 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9E61E8BA; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:55:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBB3tEJH001599; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:55:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:55:14 +0100 From: Polytropon To: RW Message-Id: <20091211045514.8ca4444c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091210145411.279939ad@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <4B1F5263.1060907@mail.ru> <20091210145411.279939ad@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temporarily halt boot process to enter encryption keys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:55:16 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:54:11 +0000, RW wrote: > It's fairly trivial to write an rc.d script that pauses the boot > process and waits for devices, but sshd runs after LOGIN, and nfs runs > before, so you can't easily reorder then without maintaining modified > rc.d scripts. I think it's possible to work with the PROVIDE, REQUIRE and BEFORE comments. But as you said, this will change the default rc.d scripts and may cause (minor?) trouble when upgrading the OS. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 04:34:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73311065676 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:34:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1A78FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.43] (really [76.184.157.127]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091211043435979.UJGL5708@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com>; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:34:35 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:34:34 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <1802D62A06A3A0AF64412A2C@Macintosh-2.local> In-Reply-To: <5d6848b00912101211m20c20995x212ac7e5093df42c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <5d6848b00912101211m20c20995x212ac7e5093df42c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:34:37 -0000 --On December 10, 2009 2:11:31 PM -0600 Kevin Wilcox wrote: > > 2009/12/10 Anton Shterenlikht : > >> I was just stressed after being forced by him >> to explain why I wanted firewall exceptions >> for two ports to my FreeBSD portscluster nodes. >> I explained the reasons and that was settled. > > Anton, I don't know about the UK, Great Britain or England, but in US > Universities, this is fairly common. It just serves as a sanity check > for the many, many requests central IT tends to get regarding allowing > ingress traffic for faculty/staff machines, and it gives the firewall > guys documentation that such-and-such machine should be receiving > inbound traffic on specific ports. I can confirm this, at least for us. Our practice is to only open ports for thoroughly justified business reasons, document thoroughly and audit regularly. > >> The Uni is, of course, >> addicted to Microsoft, but having realised all >> the problems with that, lately the policy has >> been to deny (!) MS users admin access to their >> own desktops. The situation is just ridiculous - >> if a MS user wants to install a piece of software >> on their PC he/she has to ask for permission, >> and then wait until some computer officer would >> come and do install for them. > > Again, I don't know about the UK, Great Britain or England, but in the > US this is also quite common, at least with regards to University > owned hardware. The first responsibility is to protect the network and > existing services. Sadly, many groups fail to provide the next step, > that being a relatively quick, easy way to have approved software > installed for users, and a method for having non-approved software > scrutinised and either approved or rejected. > This is less common at the universities that I'm familiar with. I think it becomes less common the larger and/or older a university is. The trend is to move in this direction, but we're also moving toward much stronger compliance controls. There are things about your computer's configuration and maintenance that you will no longer get to decide, regardless of the OS you run - password strength and length, for example, the ability to create local accounts, and other such things. These things aren't being done to harass or irritate users but because of long and bitter experience with a lack of controls. Our view is, if your computer is going to connect on our network it must be configured in certain ways and behave "normally" or you won't get a connection. >> Also recently, well.. about a year ago, no >> host (!) could be accessed from outside the >> Uni firewall. Special exception has to be >> obtained even for ssh. There is only one dedicated >> sun server which accepts only ssh. The users >> are supposed to dial to this frontend server >> first, and from there to hosts on the local net. > > Again, quite common. Most Universities here do not provide > public-facing IP addresses without some sort of application and > approval process. For example, we have a handful of machines that are > public facing but most of our hardware sits inside site-only networks. > To access those machines you either have to be on-campus or you have > to connect via VPN (and yes, we support Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris, > *BSD). > This mirrors our practice. You don't get a public address without being thoroughly vetted *and* agreeing to the terms of use, unscheduled and unannounced monitoring and immediate disconnection without prior notice if a problem is detected. > Having an SSH proxy isn't an entirely bad idea, though I can see where > performance may be hindered. > >> I had to fight a long battle, well.. I had >> some support from other academics, to have >> a linux class in my Faculty. Here the >> opposition wasn't so much security, as >> "why would any undegraduate need linux", >> as if MS solutions are a pinnacle of human thought. > > That's a pretty fair question and one that I hope you would have asked > yourself before you made the push for the class. > >> And from I understand it's going to get worse. >> Apparently the IT services are drawing up >> plans to completely forbid use of "non-autorized" >> OS. I imagine fbsd will not be authorized. >> So I'm anticipating another battle already. > > Does this extend to computers used for academic research, student > owned computers being used on campus, etc? > > Perhaps it's because we're conditioned to think this way but a lot of > us at universities in the US see a lot of this as being commonplace > and to *not* do them is generally considered bad security practice. > This last part is surprising to me. Not only are we not Windows-centric, the very idea of not allowing a diversity of OSes is foreign to our operation. We are a heavy Solaris shop (as are many universities), have a good amount of Suse and RHEL and far less Windows servers exposed to the Internet. At the desktop users may install whatever they want, so long as it's maintained properly (which we audit routinely) and used in an acceptable manner (which you agree to when you get an account.) We have just about every OS you can imagine, including some you wouldn't believe still exist. I'm starting to wonder if the security manager really said what Anton claims he said, or Anton is filtering his perceptions through the anger he feels at being restricted in his ability to operate freely. If the latter is the case, you'd better adjust to it. It's the world of the future. You can do whatever you want at home, but on the corporate network you either follow the rules or lose your access. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 04:38:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2571065670 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D808FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBB4c4Mf008282; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:38:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBB4c4i6008279; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:38:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:38:04 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Glen Barber In-Reply-To: <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:38:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, mpd Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:38:05 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Glen Barber wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:55 PM, mpd wrote: >> I just updated my system from 7.2 to 8.0 STABLE. What do I need to do to >> make my mouse work in X again? This system has an unbroken chain of >> fbsd since 2.2.6, but I'm about to drop it due to this. This is >> horrible. >> > > Since you have given no information on what the symptoms are, nor on > what you have tried, I'll take a long-shot here: > > Have a look ate the 20090124/20090123 entries of /usr/ports/UPDATING That information was current a year ago, but is outdated now. Please see the Handbook section on X11 configuration instead: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html More specifically, AllowEmptyInput is a source of problems: http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-December/003807.html -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 04:48:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212E8106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:48:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABE78FC18 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBB4mRgT008311; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:48:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBB4mRAF008308; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:48:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:48:27 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Diego Montalvo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:48:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFCE4 Errors on FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:48:29 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Diego Montalvo wrote: > Have upgraded my 7.1 RELEASE clean install (no ports) to 8.0 RELEASE > using "freebsd-update upgrade -r 8.0-RELEASE" and everything > installed correctly and works fine. Updated the Ports tree using > "portsnap" and then tried to Install "usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4" but to > no avail... > > I get the following errors: > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-wm. > *** Error code 1 You need to post the actual error, which happened right above those lines. > Anyone encounter the same problem installing "xfce4"? Not for me, and I've put xfce4 on FreeBSD-8 on several computers. My guess is that you missed a step with portsnap, but it's difficult to tell without knowing exactly what you did and what errors were shown. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 05:14:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F9A1065672; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA9F8FC20; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.70 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NIxq3-00059m-RZ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:14:47 +0000 Received: from rmac.local.psg.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rmac.psg.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8B72C987FB; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:14:47 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:14:47 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:14:49 -0000 > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a > (comparatively) poor security record. unlike linux or windoze, rofl randy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 05:16:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1543E1065694 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D9B8FC18 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C026D2840A; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:16:42 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:16:42 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Tsu-Fan Cheng Message-ID: <20091211051642.GB84116@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: error when updating ports in 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:16:46 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 06:44:16PM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi, > Just update to release 8.0 a few days ago, then when update ports by > csup, error occurs: > > Fatal error 'kse_create() failed > ' at line 469 in file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_kern.c (errno = 0) > At a guess, your userland and kernel are out of sync. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The things we know best are the things we haven't been taught." - Marquis de Vauvenargues From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 06:17:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00D21065672 for ; 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Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:46:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:46:38 -0800 Message-ID: <13a413d60912102146q1396e40bg5bc5b4379c636691@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Agraviador To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Downloading and Burning Free BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:17:01 -0000 I clicked the ISO link and I was brought to a directory, this to be exact ( ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/) Once I have downloaded all Iso Images do I burn the 'boot only.iso' file on one DVD or CD only? or do I burn that along with 'disc1.iso', and how do I go about burning the rest of the files in that directory once I have downloaded them? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 06:17:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634DA10656EC for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21548FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F0C1E849; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:17:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBB6H6C8002196; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:17:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:17:06 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20091211071706.811a0758.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , mpd Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:17:11 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:38:04 -0700 (MST), Warren Block = wrote: > Please=20 > see the Handbook section on X11 configuration instead: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html Just a side question: 5.4.2 Note 2 =A7 5 states: You will have to reboot your machine to force hald to read this file. which refers to /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi that re-enables Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill X. Is it really, really needed to reboot the machine? Can't HAL just be restarted? I always thought "reboot to make a minor setting work" was the domain of "Windows"... --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 06:25:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84EA1065676 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:25:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23448FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:25:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 734FD2840A; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:25:02 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:25:02 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Roger Agraviador Message-ID: <20091211062502.GA85425@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <13a413d60912102146q1396e40bg5bc5b4379c636691@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <13a413d60912102146q1396e40bg5bc5b4379c636691@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Downloading and Burning Free BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:25:10 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:46:38PM -0800, Roger Agraviador wrote: > I clicked the ISO link and I was brought to a directory, this to be exact ( > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/) > > Once I have downloaded all Iso Images do I burn the 'boot only.iso' file on > one DVD or CD only? or do I burn that along with 'disc1.iso', and how do I > go about burning the rest of the files in that directory once I have > downloaded them? You should burn the disc1.iso at a minimum. The boot-only.iso is for testing. The other iso images contain packages that you may want to install. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "I don't want to achive immortality through my works.. I want to achieve it through not dying" - Woody Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 06:39:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEEA106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB548FC15 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:39:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NIz9g-0005u9-O9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:39:08 -0800 Message-ID: <26739396.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:39:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ivo Karabojkov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <26706523.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: ivo@kit-bg.com References: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> <26679927.post@talk.nabble.com> <20091208095732.GA64581@ei.bzerk.org> <26701709.post@talk.nabble.com> <20091208232158.f532a1bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <26706523.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:39:09 -0000 Can someone give me a clue what went wrong in so described upgrade and what made Kernel 8.0 REL not to see either disklabel nor even partition of my gmirror? I need some advice prior starting upgrade process of the rest of my servers. As you see in my previous posts the problem is NOT in DD mode! Ivo Karabojkov wrote: > > As I guessed, I am using standard, not DD mode. Despite of this I was > unable to boot, and even more: FreeBSD 8.0 sysinstall did not find any > partitions neither on the (g)mirror, hardware RAID I described above or > any individual disks part of the RAID. I had to use FreeBSD 7.2 livefs to > copy my data after I formatted one of the disks with new 8.0 sysinstall. > I think this makes our problem totally unexplained. > As an example I'll show you my "unable to boot system with gmirror" fstab: > > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump > Pass# > /dev/mirror/gm0s1b none swap sw 0 > 0 > /dev/mirror/gm0s1a / ufs rw 1 > 1 > /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /usr ufs rw 2 > 2 > /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /var ufs rw,acls 2 > 2 > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > Something I've noticed: when formatting an entire disk with sysinstall > prior 7.0 its partition looks like this: > > Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype > Flags > > 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 > 63 781417602 781417664 ad4s1 8 freebsd 165 > 781417665 2990 781420654 - 12 unused 0 > > When formatted with later versions of sysinstall it looks like this: > > Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype > Flags > > 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 > 63 625142385 625142447 ad4s1 8 freebsd 165 > > I notice that the free part at the end is missing. My "hardware" raid, > described above in this thread, stores its metadata in the beginning of > the disk. Writes in the first sectors result in mirror break and the error > I wrote already. I know all of this because I did a lot of tests to help > all of you to find our problem out. > > I have to say that my problems occured with system initially installed > with FreeBSD 5 or 6. One system with single drive installed with 7.2 > (second example) upgraded with no problems. > > I hope my tests will help to find out what happens wit our older > "disklabelled" systems. > > > Polytropon wrote: >> >> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:09:16 -0800 (PST), Ivo Karabojkov >> wrote: >>> So I'd like to know how >>> to distinguish mode of my current filesystems - is it standard or >>> dangerously dedicated? >> >> If you've first created a slice on the disk, and then >> partitions inside the slice, it's standard mode, e. g. >> >> ad0 a b d e f g >> { [ (/) (swap) (/tmp) (/var) (/usr) (/home) ] } >> s1 >> >> If you've omitted the slice, and created the partitions >> on the disk device itself, it's dangerosly dedicated mode, e. g. >> >> ad0 >> { (/) (swap) (/tmp) (/var) (/usr) (/home) } >> a b d e f g >> >> You can tell by the existence of ad0s1[adefg] vs. ad0[adefg] >> in /dev, or by trying to print the disks's slice table. >> >> >> >> -- >> Polytropon >> Magdeburg, Germany >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/won%27t-boot-after-8.0-RELEASE-upgrade-tp26628661p26739396.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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Now I am going back and actually learning XML... our main application is to insert XML directly into XHTML documents and use either CSS or XSLT (don't know enough to pick yet) to style them without resorting to javascript... Now my question what is a good/reasonable set of command line tools for working with/debugging/testing all this in such a way I do not need to rely on the browser... specifically what types (and specific ones if there is a preference) tools do I need and are there any recommended procedures for dealing with XML from the command line.... in the future we may want to also do Java parsing of XML but that seems to be well handled already in the JDK (1.6) API.... thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 06:59:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FB91065672 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650508FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NIzTd-0007Fm-O9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:59:45 -0800 Message-ID: <26739505.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:59:45 -0800 (PST) From: Ivo Karabojkov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091210150639.2da33de4@scorpio.seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: ivo@kit-bg.com References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210184502.30fce047@ernst.jennejohn.org> <200912101921.nBAJLQf1077338@fire.js.berklix.net> <20091210150639.2da33de4@scorpio.seibercom.net> Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:59:46 -0000 I think democracy is a choice of freedom. Freedom what to use, AND, in such cases - freedom where to work! If you are marketing specialist probably you should NOT touch much of your computer's control gear. If you are an IT specialist or support such treatment is similar to treat you as a cattle. It's only up to you to allow or forbid such treatment. The freedom has it's price, of course. I always choose to pay it. If someone hires me to manage something he should listen to my or my team's advices. Otherwise he spends money for nothing and I earn headache and broken nerves! And as for academic battle: If universities deny to make tests, experiments and cutting edge implementations then who would??? If IT or computing science, or telecommunication departments are treated in such manner probably they should be dismissed for not letting them to damag= e our future specialists! It's a sin to read just one book, even if it is the Holly Bible!=20 God, forgive me for comparing =D0=9C$ with the Bible, it's just for convict= ion ;-)! In fact I won partially such a battle in 2002-2003, and even if I don't wor= k for our University they still relay on FreeBSD for major part of their IT infrastructure. I wish you all freedom and success! Jerry-107 wrote: >=20 > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:26 +0100 > Julian H. Stacey replied: >=20 >>> Fortuantely, I had no problem setting up a "black" FreeBSD box to >>> preserve my sanity. >> >>A tip for those threatened with no BSD box at work: >>FreeBSD runs fine _inside_ a box that looks like a multi sheet scanner. >>OK, slow, but invisible to managers who require MS only. >> >>These scanners often lie abandoned in company junk rooms (& cheap >>on web), as people know they used to need MS's abandoned NT (=3D Not >>There) operating system. Well they do ... until one installs BSD. >>Credit to David M. who did the FreeBSD work. Pictures of hardware >>to look for in junk rooms: http://www.berklix.com/scanjet/ >> >>Cheers, >>Julian >=20 > Out of pure morbid curiosity, would you please answer this question for > me. >=20 > You work for a corporation that specifically requires the use of > a specific OS, the OS itself is not material to this question. It also > forbids the use of any unauthorized OS or equipment on the companies > network. You decide to ignore their directives and eventually: >=20 > 1) Get caught > 2) Cause a problem with the company's network, etc. >=20 > Now, when you get fired and possible charged with a crime, do you: >=20 > 1) Cry and bitch that they are being unfair? > 2) Accept the fact that you deserved to be dismissed? >=20 > Where I use to work, two or three employees were fired each year > because they thought they knew more than everyone else. They failed to > realize that they were being compensated to do what they were told and > not what they thought they should be doing. The bottom line is if they > are not smart enough to follow company directives, they are certainly > not capable of instigating their own protocol. >=20 > --=20 > Jerry > gesbbb@yahoo.com >=20 > |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > | >=20 > Grandpa Charnock's Law: > =09You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive. >=20 > =09[I thought it was when your kids learned to drive. Ed.] >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Root-exploit-for-FreeBS= D-tp26728358p26739505.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 07:42:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F62E106568F; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC0B8FC18; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi12 with SMTP id 12so535015pxi.3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:42:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KpKGC8QBSeEN+S8fv/P6HKceWlAZPvmnlKnjp9owglo=; b=XCZa6bVkG1cr1E3DKxX7hAKxiB19fGGy2BSwP6/rB69wJ0zTb2eFU+H8RG18C7sYHt DnRBtl/P7uRMukKxPDk4xwkRNRgPJ52yaHfv6d6EZj2PIyxfjZocgJnWd3lmV+hZkCWP rQFlZjd0YxSIJKBsaQ/Tz0F6vS4Sodp/2W+k0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tC4HzyhwFT6h2IVRDowuJUcJ7vBKHr79UCr+iosz15RPtQASwbnNkuXppFOOe0icR2 D6aWhLuMOPaqS8cM+kIrIMi+HdNtaVM9+wAbOgRlsqcrT7f5TuvZYVQc05DrOofZBKhR IuYzEeOTgNKqzBOa9mDXTpyMcQxVe/oUVMR9k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.6.42 with SMTP id 42mr591932wff.88.1260517356618; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:42:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600 Message-ID: <11167f520912102342y349ebf03tccf886da0ecf53e9@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: Bill Moran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:42:37 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Bill Moran wrot= e: > In response to Anton Shterenlikht : > >> >From my information security manager: >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand)= and has a >> =A0 =A0 =A0 (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for exa= mple: >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-= FreeBSD-873352.html > > Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot? =A0Does he > realize that FreeBSD has a grand total of 16 security problems for all > of 2009? =A0Hell, Microsoft has that many in an average month. > > If he can find something (other than OpenBSD) with a better record than > that, I'd love to hear about it. Either your infosec guy is close to incompetent or this is flame bait. I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count dragonflyBSD) Linux is Just horrible, and Windows well enough said :) Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 07:44:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F47106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from kabab.cs.huji.ac.il (kabab.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0728FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32]) by kabab.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1NIzgV-000MUv-Es; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:13:03 +0200 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 To: Anton Shterenlikht In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:41:41 +0000 . Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:13:03 +0200 From: Daniel Braniss Message-ID: Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:44:55 -0000 > >From my information security manager: > > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) I sometimes wonder the validity of such statements, since we use it on 99% of our servers, the work-stations run Linux. Then again, we are concidered a more theoretical than practical school :-) and has a > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: > > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html as many have explained, connecting a computer to the network has its risks, and FreeBSD has a great security record. my 2c. danny -- Daniel Braniss e-mail: danny@cs.huji.ac.il Manager of Computing Facilities The Selim and Rachel Benin School of phone: +972 2 658 4385 Engineering and Computer Science Fax: +972 2 561 7723 The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Edmond Safra Campus, Givat Ram, Israel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 07:46:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F4C1065676 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1E38FC16 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NJ0CO-000BaW-I0; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:46:00 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: Matthew Seaman References: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <4B21A487.5010200@rawbw.com> <4B21EA4A.40306@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:46:00 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4B21EA4A.40306@infracaninophile.co.uk> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:44:26 +0000") Message-ID: <54060791@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: yuri@rawbw.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:46:03 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:44:26 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Yuri wrote: > > Glen Barber wrote: > >> > >> Remove the file? Or rename it? > > > > I wouldn't ask this question if it was that easy. > > There is even no such directory: /home/yuri/.googleearth > Check /compat/linux/home/yuri/ ...and remove /compat/linux/home if it exists. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 08:06:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272A010656BB for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from a.mail.ru.ac.za (a.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDF98FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:06:22 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=QCjisUAGwDjdKhpSkraZ5BGd5lyeBG5VLMo1PIIE7U4qXzbwH/+psyiNQ5EFS3bH9jt103If7i/TLLwKaXzydbcmzCKh3AuU9terBta+E9QvLyGZ57WIZjPve1Df0Bh+; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:61551) by a.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NJ0W3-000DGT-Fc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:06:19 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:06:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> <20091211071706.811a0758.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091211071706.811a0758.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: a.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:1) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:06:23 -0000 On Friday 11 December 2009 08:17:06 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:38:04 -0700 (MST), Warren Block =20 wrote: > > Please > > see the Handbook section on X11 configuration instead: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html > > Just a side question: 5.4.2 Note 2 =A7 5 states: > > You will have to reboot your machine to force > hald to read this file. > > which refers to /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi > that re-enables Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill X. > > Is it really, really needed to reboot the machine? Can't > HAL just be restarted? I always thought "reboot to make > a minor setting work" was the domain of "Windows"... At the risk of me-tooing, I also wondered about this. It seems insane to have to restart the OS and hardware to reread a config=20 file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 08:30:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765B4106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EAB8FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D461E108; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:30:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBB8UOEa002789; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:30:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:30:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Message-Id: <20091211093023.009125d9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <11167f520912102342y349ebf03tccf886da0ecf53e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <11167f520912102342y349ebf03tccf886da0ecf53e9@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:30:27 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: > I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed > #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count > dragonflyBSD) VMS would be #0, then? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 08:45:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F34106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE8C8FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBB8jd1n097666; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:45:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {02BF4ABC-E433-470D-AA5A-969F1E646F2B} X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message x-cr-hashedpuzzle: C+s= P1A= BSeI CGUy CbGy IKRI JlDY Lk/C Mp1e NHRA Nbt6 P56e Q95Z R/+c Sjp+ Tuo+; 2; YQByAGEAYgBAAHQAYQBuAGcAZQByAGkAbgBlAC0AYQByAG0AeQAuAGMAbwAuAHUAawA7AGYAcgBlAGUAYgBzAGQALQBxAHUAZQBzAHQAaQBvAG4AcwBAAGYAcgBlAGUAYgBzAGQALgBvAHIAZwA=; Sosha1_v1; 7; {02BF4ABC-E433-470D-AA5A-969F1E646F2B}; agBvAGgAYQBuAEAAZABvAHUAYgBsAGUALQBsAC4AbgBsAA==; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:45:32 GMT; UgBFADoAIABGAHIAZQBlAEIAUwBEACAAYQBuAGQAIABBAEMASABJACAAZAByAGkAdgBlAHIA Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:45:32 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCBA5735D@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD and ACHI driver Thread-Index: Acp5y5YL9TF14BxDSIu0W1My43UxawAce7aQ References: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F7897392904F750@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Graeme Dargie" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD and ACHI driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:45:41 -0000 >Hello List >Having upgraded to FreeBSD 8.0 everything is running fine, I decided to >try the ahci_load=3D"YES" in /boot/loader.conf=20 >The first machine was fine after a reboot,=20 >Aside from different motherboards in the machines, the machine that is >not working is has 2 x 3bay icy dock hot swap bays. Does anyone have any >clues as to why this is happening? =20 >Regards =20 >Graeme on the First machine the ahci driver detects the drives hence the ada[0-9] interfaces. It looks like on the other machine that ahci did not find the drives, there are stil called ad[0-9]=20 Ahci sees the drives as ada as the normal ata driver sees them as ad Maybe you will need to go into the BIOS of the second machine and enable AHCI Regards, Johan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 09:50:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8809106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from cf.bluelight.org.uk (bluelight.org.uk [80.229.144.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569E28FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:50:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bluelight.org.uk; s=dkim; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=6WxwJ5IKKVUUIvhCHdyuEhnNU15SqOA9Lx 227n3XvdQ=; b=cxUi0dxXblFjrlLMOWTzjihQblk34bnxHTgDIb2k4oy72NwPxb UkfRXc5i1RgK8Pi3atJ50UCrXU8HTW99FhIgSP9nXk5aJtAm1GfAwZw9A/6yI233 XQtTYrnf0i39yy Received: from [192.168.2.138] by cf.bluelight.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NJ1a0-000E53-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:14:31 +0000 Message-ID: <4B220D79.1080706@bluelight.org.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:14:33 +0000 From: Terry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091210174131.D1A891065696@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20091210174131.D1A891065696@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) Subject: Re: HP USB 2.0 Tape Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:50:49 -0000 Hi, > > I'm looking to buy a tape drive and am currently looking at USB 2.0 DAT tape > drives from HP. I searched the hardware compatibility list and cannot locate > any information tape drives except the disclaimer that SCSI tape drives do > work on SCSI controller cards that are recognized by the FreeBSD OS. The > only thing I can find is that apparently the ehci driver must be used if USB > 2.0 interface is to be used with a tape drive. > > Does anyone have had positive or negative experience using these USB-based > DAT tape drives? Specifically, I am looking at the HP (Hewlett-Packard) > StorageWorks Q1581SB DAT 160 Tape Drive. If there are other branded USB > 2.0-based tape drives (i.e. Quantum) that you've used with little or no > problems, I would be interested in knowing about these. I have been using the usb HP Dat drives with ml115 servers with out any problems. They have been detected and work fine Terry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 10:38:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B846106566B; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9A68FC08; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NJ2t7-0003Xg-4E; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:38:20 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NJ2t6-0000CE-11; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:38:16 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBBAcFne011509; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:38:15 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBBAcFlS011508; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:38:15 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:38:15 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20091211103815.GA11397@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <5d6848b00912101211m20c20995x212ac7e5093df42c@mail.gmail.com> <1802D62A06A3A0AF64412A2C@Macintosh-2.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1802D62A06A3A0AF64412A2C@Macintosh-2.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.5 X-Spam-Level: ---- Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:38:22 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:34:34PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > I'm starting to wonder if the security manager really said what Anton > claims he said, or Anton is filtering his perceptions through the anger he > feels at being restricted in his ability to operate freely. If the latter > is the case, you'd better adjust to it. It's the world of the future. > You can do whatever you want at home, but on the corporate network you > either follow the rules or lose your access. yes, he did, I can forward you our communication off list if you wish. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 11:33:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E251106568F for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.spinella@rfc1925.net) Received: from joy.rfc1925.net (static-217-133-230-42.clienti.tiscali.it [217.133.230.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5878FC16 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by joy.rfc1925.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D4E125449; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:31:29 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc1925.net Received: from joy.rfc1925.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (joy.rfc1925.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4CkqHARTOUT6; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:31:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from zeta (unknown [194.246.127.221]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: a.spinella@rfc1925.net) by joy.rfc1925.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 56ADB12544F; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:29:49 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Anton Shterenlikht" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:29:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: $witch Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.10 (FreeBSD) Cc: Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:33:06 -0000 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:41:41 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> From my information security manager: > > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a > (comparatively) poor security record. ...... > > Hi, almost all of you remark how FreeBSD is more-secure-than-others-OS, will add nothing to varius comments. but i look in syslogs of some FreeBSD internet server and there is a great evidence that some "botnets" are (again) tryng simple combination of uid/pwd. starting from Dec 8 01:00:34 (CET) hundreds of zombies are looking for a valid username. it mean that most of the matter is our; the FreeBSD users. we are the only ones that will (or will not) patch the systems; i love the FreeBSD security while it is MOSTLY based on KNOWLEDGE of users than on a PERFECT code. cheers Alessandro -- "If 386BSD had been available when I started on Linux, Linux would probably never had happened." Linus Torvalds From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 11:39:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821EA1065676 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nb@ravenbrook.com) Received: from raven.ravenbrook.com (raven.ravenbrook.com [193.164.110.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130528FC18 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (thrush.ravenbrook.com [193.164.110.145]) by raven.ravenbrook.com (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBBBdooE085445 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:39:50 GMT (envelope-from nb@ravenbrook.com) Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thrush.ravenbrook.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id nBBBdo1m095066 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:39:50 GMT (envelope-from nb@thrush.ravenbrook.com) From: Nick Barnes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from $witch of "Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:29:44 +0100" Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:39:50 +0000 Message-ID: <95065.1260531590@thrush.ravenbrook.com> Sender: nb@ravenbrook.com X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (raven.ravenbrook.com [193.164.110.8]); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:39:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.1/10149/Thu Dec 10 22:26:20 2009 on raven.ravenbrook.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on raven.ravenbrook.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:39:53 -0000 At 2009-12-11 11:29:44+0000, $witch writes: > but i look in syslogs of some FreeBSD internet server and there is a great > evidence that some "botnets" are (again) tryng simple combination of > uid/pwd. # always, everywhere: PasswordAuthentication No Nick B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 11:55:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C040F106568D; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6098FC0A; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57B01E3F0; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:55:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBBBt3Ek003838; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:55:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:55:03 +0100 From: Polytropon To: $witch Message-Id: <20091211125503.dbd3af83.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:55:07 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:29:44 +0100, $witch wrote: > starting from Dec 8 01:00:34 (CET) hundreds of zombies are looking for a > valid username. For example "Administrator"... :-) > i love the FreeBSD security while it is MOSTLY based on KNOWLEDGE of users > than on a PERFECT code. Security is not a state, it's a process, involving many considerations; "the user" is one of the most important ones. Even "perfectly secure" code can't cope with human stupidity. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 12:30:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC423106568F for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5CA8FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP40 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:30:04 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.183.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.183.172]) by BLU0-SMTP40.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:30:03 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 494692283A for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:30:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:30:01 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2009 12:30:03.0799 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA1C0270:01CA7A5D] Subject: 'X' vs. 'Mouse' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:30:04 -0000 Honestly, did the 'X' developers go out of their way to break mouse, and to a lesser degree, keyboard support when upgrading? This forum has been riddled with questions on why their hardware (mouse) has stopped working and how to get it working again. If Microsoft had pulled a bone-headed stunt like this, they would be chastised; however, hardly a word has been uttered regarding the poor choices made by the 'X' development team. I question whether they actually tested this product prior to releasing it. I have been following a few forums besides this one and they all report the same problem. I realize that 'HAL' has something to do with this situation also. Perhaps if all the concerned parties would get their acts together this sort of fiasco would not continually happen. It is really hard to push the merits of an operating system when you have to give detailed instructions to the potential end user on how to get a "mouse" to work, when all they have to do in a Win32 based system is plug it in. I really cannot fathom a seven year old having to modify an XML document to facilitate their playing a "How to Spell" CD, assuming that they could even get the CD operational. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | ALGORITHM: Trendy dance for hip programmers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 08:50:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507E5106568F; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ACD8FC14; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBB8noKl014489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:55 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nBB8noKl014489 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260521396; bh=zIYvhU982IZ62/fV98MSWNG0L/UsQRPLv9eij+XDij4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2011=20Dec=202009=2008:49:42=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091202)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Polytropon=20|CC:=20"Sam=20Four man=20Jr."=20,=20freebsd-current@freebsd.org,= 20=0D=0A=20Anton=20Shterenlikht=20,=0D=0A=20B ill=20Moran=20,=20freebsd-questions@free bsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Root=20exploit=20for=20FreeBSD|References :=20<20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk>=09<20091 210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com>=09<11167f520912102342 y349ebf03tccf886da0ecf53e9@mail.gmail.com>=20<20091211093023.00912 5d9.freebsd@edvax.de>|In-Reply-To:=20<20091211093023.009125d9.free bsd@edvax.de>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.7|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908 C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A =20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"- -----------enig04D154CE42B489C4041970E5"; b=0Lxj0oUoJaXRWJ/w6xt0nqgnQVwMIAuK2cCrcP9vUjraJMt8dnIa3ozzCWidkwAth 1s6tmHZzqFRa0EiEvT1NqVcN8UrYcHre/PRgBIB65gLkijV7kScdHau5yv8BjnU1Hf JhU3fNNCOxQvjeb+Sy20OZDdVvhZrms8nOC4d2kg= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4] claimed to be significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net Message-ID: <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <11167f520912102342y349ebf03tccf886da0ecf53e9@mail.gmail.com> <20091211093023.009125d9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091211093023.009125d9.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig04D154CE42B489C4041970E5" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:38:04 +0000 Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:50:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig04D154CE42B489C4041970E5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count= >> dragonflyBSD) >=20 > VMS would be #0, then? :-) I dunno. Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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As others have pointed out, disc1 will get you started and, as long as you have an internet connection, you should be able to get the rest (without the other discs). The install will take you through the process. Perhaps you should look at the handbook to familiarize yourself with the install procedures. www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 13:00:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53366106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakob@grimstveit.no) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA528FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so966405ewy.14 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:00:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.100.168 with SMTP id y40mr835229ebn.28.1260536402263; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:00:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B1AE7D2.7050105@bah.homeip.net> References: <40a50a8c0912051116v68c97228vf363bfab3af1cf7d@mail.gmail.com> <4B1AE7D2.7050105@bah.homeip.net> From: Jakob Breivik Grimstveit Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:59:42 +0100 Message-ID: <40a50a8c0912110459w2eff38c1ue92edfcff621ba00@mail.gmail.com> To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fbsd8.0: Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:00:04 -0000 On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 00:08, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Jakob Breivik Grimstveit said the following on 2009-12-05 20:16: >> >> I have - after having upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0, started experiencing >> system unstability, with crashes about every 12-24h. Last time my >> system crashed, I got the following screen output: >> >> Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode >> couid =3D 0; apic id =3D 00 >> instruction pointer =A0 =A0=3D 0x20:0xffffffff804eb471 >> stack pointer =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D 0x28:0xffffff803e933a50 >> frame pointer =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D 0x28:0xffffff803e933a70 >> code segment =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, d= ef32 0, gan 1 >> processor eflags =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 >> current process =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D 3208 (httpd) >> trap number =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D 9 >> panic: general protection fault >> cpuid =3D 0 >> Uptime: 12h19m9s >> Cannot dump. Device not defined or unavailable >> Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort >> >> >> (Typed in manually while reading screen). >> >> What might be the problem? How can I resolve this? >> >> Thanks in advance! > > How old is the motherboard. Check the capacitors on the MB and PSU. The motherboard is probably 2-3 years old, but this problem occured when upgrading from 7.2 to 8.0, and has happened several times the last week. Why should this be a hardware problem? --=20 Vyrdsamt, Jakob Breivik Grimstveit | +47 4829 8152 http://grimstveit.no/jakob | http://www.google.com/profiles/jakobbg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 13:01:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035F31065679 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:01:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B388FC19 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY126-W24 ([65.54.190.189]) by bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:30:09 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [65.214.169.254] From: Sean Cavanaugh To: , Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:30:09 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org>, <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2009 17:30:09.0883 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C28A2B0:01CA79BE] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: nick.chorley@gmail.com, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:01:40 -0000 > Date: Thu=2C 10 Dec 2009 19:47:08 +1100 > From: smithi@nimnet.asn.au > To: sonicy@otenet.gr > CC: nick.chorley@gmail.com=3B freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions >=20 > In freebsd-questions Digest=2C Vol 287=2C Issue 16=2C Message: 8 > On Sat=2C 05 Dec 2009 19:39:08 +0200 Manolis Kiagias w= rote: >=20 > Look=2C I'm sorry=2C but I think this is a huge regression=2C especially = if=20 > we're still hoping that people with no prior experience of installing=20 > freeBSD=2C people coming from Linux and such=2C for essentially or includ= ing=20 > desktop use=2C are going to have a rewarding installation experience. >=20 > I think this is taking base-system-only installation purity to excess. >=20 > Fine for people installing servers of course=2C and maybe it will shift=20 > more people wanting a GUI environment towards PC-BSD and such if we want= =20 > to discourage these from using FreeBSD as it is (or maybe=2C was) but eve= n=20 > with my 11 years experience of installing FrreeBSD versions from 2.2=20 > till now=2C I kept on wondering=2C how would a newbie fare at this point? >=20 > The main disadvantage is - access to all packages :) In the case of X=2C= =20 > you and I=2C developers and most people here know to hunt for the Xorg=20 > meta-port. But the naive or new installer knows of no such thing=2C and=20 > could beat around in the huge lists of X software for ages=2C wondering=20 > what's required and what's not to get a desktop going. >=20 > The previous basic setup menus in sysinstall for X were not only useful= =3B=20 > I suspect that they are virtually essential for someone=2C say=2C coming= =20 > from Debian or Ubuntu or such=2C wanting to try FreeBSD on their system= =2C=20 > or the genuine first-time installer of FreeBSD. sysinstall used to=20 > assume as little prior knowledge or need to pre-read the Handbook and/or= =20 > FAQ or follow the lists as possible. Now it's seeming much more firmly=20 > targeted at the already experienced user=2C and I feel that's regressive. >=20 > cheers=2C Ian to play devils advocate=2C how many people do you know run a pure version o= f Linux? next to nobody does because there are distros built (ie=2C red hat= =2C ubuntu=2C yellowdog...) that have the structuring together. I agree wit= h the other person who mentioned PC-BSD as I agree that that would be perfe= ct for a true newbie to *nix to install and use FreeBSD. =20 most linux people will know all about packages and should be able to fumble= thru the package installer in sysinstall just fine until they find the por= ts list. =20 if the user is a complete newbie to *nix in general=2C we would all be refe= ring them to the documentation=2C or a good published freebsd book. =20 I can definitely state from my beginnings with FreeBSD as my first *nix=2C = the packages system is pretty easy to find software users are looking for. = you could technically transpose your comments about users not knowing how t= o install xorg with a GUI like Gnome or KDE. its still boils down to the we= ll labled meta- package/port. =20 but to sum it up. when i am introducing someone new to *nix and i want them= to use freebsd=2C i point them to PC-BSD as it "just works"=2C then when t= hey get comfortable=2C i show them the rest of what freebsd has to offer th= em=2C and sometimes they switch to a straight freebsd install the next time= they build a system. =20 -Sean = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 13:19:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904231065672 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9048FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2009 08:19:44 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LHL17099; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2009 08:19:02 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19234.18114.158979.591345@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:18:58 -0500 To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <1802D62A06A3A0AF64412A2C@Macintosh-2.local> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091210162150.GA1135@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <5d6848b00912101211m20c20995x212ac7e5093df42c@mail.gmail.com> <1802D62A06A3A0AF64412A2C@Macintosh-2.local> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:19:45 -0000 Paul Schmehl writes: > >> And from I understand it's going to get worse. > >> Apparently the IT services are drawing up > >> plans to completely forbid use of "non-autorized" > >> OS. I imagine fbsd will not be authorized. > >> So I'm anticipating another battle already. > > > > Does this extend to computers used for academic research, student > > owned computers being used on campus, etc? > > > > Perhaps it's because we're conditioned to think this way but a lot of > > us at universities in the US see a lot of this as being commonplace > > and to *not* do them is generally considered bad security practice. > > > > This last part is surprising to me. Not only are we not > Windows-centric, the very idea of not allowing a diversity of > OSes is foreign to our operation. We are a heavy Solaris shop > (as are many universities), have a good amount of Suse and RHEL > and far less Windows servers exposed to the Internet. At the > desktop users may install whatever they want, so long as it's > maintained properly (which we audit routinely) and used in an > acceptable manner (which you agree to when you get an account.) > We have just about every OS you can imagine, including some you > wouldn't believe still exist. I haven't worked directly with academic IT in decades ... but I live in Boston, which has the highest concentration of colleges on the planet, and talk to peopke who do. If any of the major local colleges tried to ban non-Windows OSs as either or desktop, the only question would be who got to IT first - the students with the stakes and holy water, or the professors with the tar and feathers. On the other hand a well considered security policy specifying ends and not means, and accompanied by end-user detection/correction mechanisms, would be adopted quite happily. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 13:22:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0A11065672; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC448FC15; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964296D452; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6703C844FF; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:22:39 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: $witch References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:22:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: (witch's message of "Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:29:44 +0100") Message-ID: <86tyvxlk68.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:22:41 -0000 $witch writes: > but i look in syslogs of some FreeBSD internet server and there is a > great evidence that some "botnets" are (again) tryng simple > combination of uid/pwd. > > starting from Dec 8 01:00:34 (CET) hundreds of zombies are looking > for a valid username. Starting from Dec 8? This has been going on for years, and it is not targeted at FreeBSD; they attack anything that runs an SSH server. Of course, on current OpenSSH versions, it will get them nowhere, because there is no partial confirmation, so they have to guess at the user *and* the password, instead of first searching for an existing user and *then* guessing at the password. (on certain OSes - but not FreeBSD - running certain older OpenSSH versions, you could figure out if the user existed, even if you didn't have thee right password) DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 13:59:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB53106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43F98FC18 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10so976845fxm.34 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:59:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wKn1ppmGLDtcMWQy7bn5xV+MASPIifxyzTpJKvxz6eQ=; b=f46ZbPWrVyvTr8oaCaWPuk+fp8avG3p7a8qvRpULNqtHaGSe0nQri5A1Y+yZY1FUfp tQl1AbZoVus1KVKMABZ3do9ilFcZcaOL5U+c3SP/1TqQ79LogqBeZ6x6RPN/UtM6jOYQ 6bQX9ttn+EieTQ6rYSFSnuKaHwbN3OhMFC9bc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WvpRkLIhioOaneYseQiwaeJp91xMNe7SxRGtkIHiqcnrvf0MzzS+swzFASKv8Lh34o Ht2DfREVbHIeYzhCz0xzv91MI4sPRz5sEx9LXbsAKAwbjLCbUggnhmWjX6auWVVJcyOU d702yGsaPnNUsp1Sv4Rfw9dKtILu5zJzzqtJY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.5.8 with SMTP id 8mr1501190fat.48.1260539940577; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:59:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:59:00 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912110559w7a6fdce7s53359a6ceda64399@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org, mpd Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:59:02 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Glen Barber wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:55 PM, mpd wrote: >>> >>> I just updated my system from 7.2 to 8.0 STABLE. What do I need to do t= o >>> make my mouse work in X again? This system has an unbroken chain of >>> fbsd since 2.2.6, but I'm about to drop it due to this. This is >>> horrible. >>> >> >> Since you have given no information on what the symptoms are, nor on >> what you have tried, I'll take a long-shot here: >> >> Have a look ate the 20090124/20090123 entries of /usr/ports/UPDATING > > That information was current a year ago, but is outdated now. =A0Please s= ee > the Handbook section on X11 configuration instead: > UPDATING is a more familiar source of reference for those without a working Xorg - even moreso if they only have one machine. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html > > More specifically, AllowEmptyInput is a source of problems: > > http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-December/003807.html > I suppose this falls under the "works for me" category - I haven't ever used HAL on FreeBSD. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 14:00:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F4C1065692; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (d80.iso100.no [81.175.61.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC7B8FC18; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.13] (unknown [192.168.4.13]) (Authenticated sender: svein) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id D7D1F72; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:00:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B225077.3040009@stillbilde.net> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:00:23 +0100 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?RGFnLUVybGluZyBTbcO4cmdyYXY=?= References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <86tyvxlk68.fsf@ds4.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86tyvxlk68.fsf@ds4.des.no> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, $witch , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:00:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > $witch writes: >> but i look in syslogs of some FreeBSD internet server and there is a >> great evidence that some "botnets" are (again) tryng simple >> combination of uid/pwd. >> >> starting from Dec 8 01:00:34 (CET) hundreds of zombies are looking >> for a valid username. > > Starting from Dec 8? This has been going on for years, and it is not > targeted at FreeBSD; they attack anything that runs an SSH server. Of > course, on current OpenSSH versions, it will get them nowhere, because > there is no partial confirmation, so they have to guess at the user > *and* the password, instead of first searching for an existing user and > *then* guessing at the password. > > (on certain OSes - but not FreeBSD - running certain older OpenSSH > versions, you could figure out if the user existed, even if you didn't > have thee right password) The easiest way of brute-forcing access to a FreeBSD server includes locating the sysadmin and applying the common desk drawer. It's that simple. //Svein - -- - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksiUHcACgkQODUnwSLUlKT/MwCfdWQsuwr8EIOkJOJsrXFTmTAY KroAn0pGiF4vbGgcfQqp6IwVULGqYcQk =7Qj5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 14:07:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3283A106566B; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66D28FC16; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184466D41C; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BE1CD844E9; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:07:03 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Svein Skogen" References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <86tyvxlk68.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4B225077.3040009@stillbilde.net> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:07:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4B225077.3040009@stillbilde.net> (Svein Skogen's message of "Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:00:23 +0100") Message-ID: <86iqcdli48.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: $witch , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:07:05 -0000 "Svein Skogen" writes: > The easiest way of brute-forcing access to a FreeBSD server includes > locating the sysadmin and applying the common desk drawer. It's that > simple. *laugh* I thought you were more of a baseball bat kind of guy :) DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 14:13:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3899A1065672 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:13:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97058FC20 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (unknown [88.130.214.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885918A1116; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:48:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B224DAB.7080700@bsdforen.de> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:48:27 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , mpd Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:13:00 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Glen Barber wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:55 PM, mpd wrote: >>> I just updated my system from 7.2 to 8.0 STABLE. What do I need to do to >>> make my mouse work in X again? This system has an unbroken chain of >>> fbsd since 2.2.6, but I'm about to drop it due to this. This is >>> horrible. >>> >> >> Since you have given no information on what the symptoms are, nor on >> what you have tried, I'll take a long-shot here: >> >> Have a look ate the 20090124/20090123 entries of /usr/ports/UPDATING > > That information was current a year ago, but is outdated now. Please > see the Handbook section on X11 configuration instead: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html > > More specifically, AllowEmptyInput is a source of problems: > > http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-December/003807.html That is, if you think HAL can be fixed. A deluded assumption in my opinion. HAL is broken by design and should not be activated. -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 14:16:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92E71065670; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from soncrib.com (soncrib.com [199.238.168.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0058FC19; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nextstepng.son.org (adsl-99-157-26-76.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.157.26.76]) (authenticated bits=0) by soncrib.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nBBDDeix020380; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:13:43 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) From: Stacey Son In-Reply-To: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:13:40 -0600 Message-Id: References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: Anton Shterenlikht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:16:18 -0000 On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> =46rom my information security manager: >=20 > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and = has a > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for = example: >=20 > = http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352= .html =46rom = http://www.serverwatch.com/eur/article.php/3850401/FreeBSD-Shines-While-Ap= ple-Fails.htm > All software has bugs, but it's how people react when things go wrong = that you can judge them. Did the FreeBSD folks sit around and do = nothing? Did they busy themselves with other things and leave 8.0, 7.1 = and 7.0 users vulnerable to pwnage? No, they did not! A matter of hours = later Colin Percival, FreeBSD's security officer, made this = announcement: >=20 > A short time ago a 'local root' exploit was posted to the = full-disclosure mailing list; as the name suggests, this allows a local = user to execute arbitrary code as root ... since exploit code is already = widely available I want to make a patch available ASAP. > And with that, he released said patch. >=20 So what OS does your information security manager run on his = {desk,lap}top? -stacey.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 14:40:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5924106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6DB8FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BCA5E279 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:23:21 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.401, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id sIaEzK9QlGQY for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:23:16 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95D35E2E8 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:20:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B22553A.9010003@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:20:42 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091208) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: A question about yell on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:40:05 -0000 I'm using audio/Yell a lot when I compile and run other scripted tasks. On my laptop with FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 I can't get yell to make any sounds at all. I'm wondering if you can give me any hints on how to make yell work on my laptop, Dell Latitude E65000. I have sound working but PC-speaker doesn't seem to be present. Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 14:42:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8D51065694 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from macerl@telkomsa.net) Received: from rrba-ip-smtp-2-4.saix.net (rrba-ip-smtp-2-4.saix.net [196.25.240.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4358FC1B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from toutatis.localnet (dsl-242-84-47.telkomadsl.co.za [41.242.84.47]) by rrba-ip-smtp-2-4.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8512E4862 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:41:59 +0200 (SAST) From: Richard Mace To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:41:30 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.3.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912111641.30987.macerl@telkomsa.net> Subject: Cannot write to nfsv4 share X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:42:01 -0000 I am running 8.0-RELEASE. I am able to mount an nfsv4 share on a Debian GNU/Linux server, but I cannot write to it. I realise that nfsv4 is experimental on FreeBSD, but I am tantalisingly close to getting it working and thought that someone here could advise, or point me to some (web) reference. I have googled but have not found anything relevant to this problem. I have enabled the following in /etc/rc.conf: nfs_client_enable="YES" nfsuserd_enable="YES" nfsuserd_flags="-domain localdomain" nfscbd_enable="YES" I have passed the domain "localdomain" to nfsuserd via nfsuserd_flags because that is what it is set to (by default) via /etc/idmapd.conf on the Linux server. I mount the remote location using: # mount -t nfs -o nfsv4,rw 192.168.x.x:/freeagent /mnt which succeeds.... (either with or without the "rw" option) # mount /dev/ad2s1a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/ad2s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad2s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad2s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) 192.168.x.x:/freeagent on /mnt (newnfs) When I execute an ls -al on /mnt all the directories have the correct permissions, except for one.... (NOTE THE GROUP -- 32767) drwx------ 2 root 32767 16384 Jul 5 12:28 lost+found If I try, either as root, or as my regular user account, to write to the drive I get $ cd /mnt $ touch junk touch: junk: Permission denied I have checked the directory permissions for my user and they are correct. I use the same username (and group) on both the FreeBSD desktop and the Linux (NFS4) server and, according to the permissions, I own and should be able to write to the share: $ cd /mnt $ ls -ald . drwxr-xr-x 7 username username 4096 Dec 11 13:37 . I can successfully read from the nfs4 mounted drive, but I cannot write to it. Has anyone got any idea where I have gone wrong. (If I boot to Linux on the same client I can successfully mount and read/write, so I'm reasonably certain the server side is set up correctly.) -Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 14:44:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976191065696 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlfreebsd@streamingedge.com) Received: from mail.streamingedge.com (mail.streamingedge.com [66.151.192.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF018FC22 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.streamingedge.com (localhost.streamingedge.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.streamingedge.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3062119EF7; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:25:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from jam-laptop (unknown [172.17.0.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.streamingedge.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 88DE0119EE3; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:25:54 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Roger Agraviador" , questions@freebsd.org References: <13a413d60912102146q1396e40bg5bc5b4379c636691@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:25:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Jacques Manukyan" Organization: StreamingEdge Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <13a413d60912102146q1396e40bg5bc5b4379c636691@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.10 (Linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Subject: Re: Downloading and Burning Free BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:44:40 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:46:38 -0500, Roger Agraviador wrote: > I clicked the ISO link and I was brought to a directory, this to be > exact ( > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/) > > Once I have downloaded all Iso Images do I burn the 'boot only.iso' file > on > one DVD or CD only? or do I burn that along with 'disc1.iso', and how do > I > go about burning the rest of the files in that directory once I have > downloaded them? First off, welcome to FreeBSD. To add to what the others have stated, take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.2R/announce.html Basically, you would use the DVD image or if you only have a CD drive, just 'disc1.iso'. If you need additional packages and don't have an internet connection on the machine you are installing FreeBSD, then you may want to get disc2 and disc3 as they contain other, third party, packages ready for use with FreeBSD. Hope that helps -- Jacques Manukyan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 14:45:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB26106568F for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942208FC20 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBBEjc25010658; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:45:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBBEjcng010655; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:45:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:45:38 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20091211071706.811a0758.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> <20091211071706.811a0758.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:45:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , mpd Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:45:43 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:38:04 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: >> Please >> see the Handbook section on X11 configuration instead: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html > > Just a side question: 5.4.2 Note 2 ? 5 states: > > You will have to reboot your machine to force > hald to read this file. > > which refers to /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi > that re-enables Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill X. > > Is it really, really needed to reboot the machine? Can't > HAL just be restarted? I always thought "reboot to make > a minor setting work" was the domain of "Windows"... I had the same question a while back: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=595146+0+archive/2009/freebsd-doc/20091101.freebsd-doc -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 14:51:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521DD106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C7548FC18 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19514 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2009 14:48:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.167.30) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 11 Dec 2009 14:48:04 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DF54F17312; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:51:34 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:51:34 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091211145134.GA60942@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:51:44 -0000 On Fri 2009-12-11 07:30:01 UTC-0500, Carmel (carmel_ny@hotmail.com) wrote: > It is really hard to push the merits of an operating system when you > have to give detailed instructions to the potential end user on how to > get a "mouse" to work, when all they have to do in a Win32 based system Last time I had X working was in FreeBSD 6.3, with no dramas. Things may have changed a bit since then, but the general impression I get is that most of Xorg's design decisions are made by Linux developers, and so folks using Xorg in FreeBSD may have to put up with a few compromises to get it to work reliably. To be fair to FreeBSD, I don't think you can really call this as a fault of the OS since Xorg is not part of FreeBSD. > is plug it in. I really cannot fathom a seven year old having to modify > an XML document to facilitate their playing a "How to Spell" CD, > assuming that they could even get the CD operational. I don't believe FreeBSD is intended to be used (let alone administered) by children. There are Linux distros better suited to children. Edubuntu springs to mind. Ubuntu is pretty much plug-and-play & point-and-click on most PCs made in the last few years. Certainly no XML editing required to get Xorg working. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 15:08:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26733106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AC38FC17 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so313359eye.9 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:08:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Nk2BMvx2cRIa2mVSf2bjZQMBl/0q228v1tpQ/TKPsP4=; b=Ce3HeLSAFcnw3QVftGUDzvCIM4rW6Z6D2R5UxTCw+bKR4DQa6E/fqP9vIETLeAQgF9 dbS8iY9rmdVY+loLzVTphdxaji2HKxQiAV3FXLt+Dh6Z+QOsqA9MgOp8SifOCOF56G7+ 0NVyJz2FgApAspM21YGN35SbssEJbqVG38tyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MGJVgmQlY8rjzw9GbuBvEiC7H1KAeZZdKfOhVsmY3YJqLpfEvwO9zr2M1nLyGqyOba 5N+ksMTmKDze1Jsmnvir/vxCrwn/NEteLUTtF4jvOQ3Wz5oC0Xzr+mlkaCKxWHyZLiDN rhGB1Lrb3kVt2mr5QzwhwY9kRoNImNnPhzoxg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.60.196 with SMTP id q4mr1639713ebh.27.1260544123407; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:08:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:08:43 +0100 Message-ID: <1bd550a00912110708u207d6ad1i1b282362c68309f@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: gnash and swfdec black screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:08:46 -0000 Hi all, I'm running 8.0-RELEASE for amd64. I want to use either gnash or swfdec to view flash contents instead of using the libflashplayer and linux compatibility layer. However, with both of them, all I get is a black window where the video should be played. Using gnash if I run firefox3 from a console, I don't see any messages. With swfdec all I get is a "unhandled event 19". Probably the problem is not related to the players themselves but I don't really know how to track this... My video card is an ATI mobility Radeon 9700 and X uses the radeon driver (radeon_drv). Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 15:14:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAEE106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmontalvo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F3F8FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so702654pzk.3 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:14:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NjUpiFLW1g8WWd47mbxkP3Gnqm4z4gE7+GIXRjmT2XY=; b=Y0yr6Hcvq9S0zK1BIbkqHTyFHHaioe4lYXQ1vLmLshhhbBlPwdy+Sm2CGMPQ56D36N MubMsEpkW1Odj1pQWv5/b1FEm2/4/hpfeeAIWfM4hr98izsWA4yqv7zpjHPeiIANJmdx gh+DWqIWO96GX9udH8PEeCiXUloZTTGwRwaEY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TN3thQaKaIr33V02Nsm3NCC7GZv2LQRbQJariUIAgpRSv93LWDqGxX1CUKM8/cIrly IRpoiNoyN/+JEt5+Lg/omZX6/3IgVYqJengtboDsVJhH4TMOKPoSnS31sDzV/bMIezya n+E1u7tfcpK5yVLEMf67SZpeKsln4WnEe8HA0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.75.12 with SMTP id x12mr875894wfa.157.1260544456596; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:14:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:14:16 -0800 Message-ID: From: Diego Montalvo To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFCE4 Errors on FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:14:17 -0000 Warren, Got XFCE4 installed after a get amount of tweaking. It turns out Portsnap did not update all the appropriate files so installed "portupgrade" and did a portupgrade glib. Glib was not the current version needed for "usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4". After the portupgrade "make install clean" worked like a champ. My "/etc/hosts" file was also missing the current domain so needed to update that. Was getting a "fbdev" error so downloaded http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev and that fixed that error. Cheers, Diego 2009/12/10 Warren Block : > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Diego Montalvo wrote: > >> Have upgraded my 7.1 RELEASE clean install (no ports) to 8.0 RELEASE >> using =A0"freebsd-update upgrade -r 8.0-RELEASE" and everything >> installed correctly and works fine. Updated the Ports tree using >> "portsnap" and then tried to Install "usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4" but to >> no avail... >> >> I get the following errors: >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-wm. >> *** Error code 1 > > You need to post the actual error, which happened right above those lines= . > >> Anyone encounter the same problem installing "xfce4"? > > Not for me, and I've put xfce4 on FreeBSD-8 on several computers. =A0My g= uess > is that you missed a step with portsnap, but it's difficult to tell witho= ut > knowing exactly what you did and what errors were shown. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 15:24:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0B31065746 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA75B8FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NJ7Kx-0005cm-Uw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:23:19 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:23:19 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:23:19 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:22:49 +0100 Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091210) In-Reply-To: Sender: news Subject: Re: XFCE4 Errors on FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:24:11 -0000 Diego Montalvo wrote: > Warren, > > Got XFCE4 installed after a get amount of tweaking. It turns out > Portsnap did not update all the appropriate files so installed > "portupgrade" and did a portupgrade glib. Glib was not the current > version needed for "usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4". After the portupgrade > "make install clean" worked like a champ. It is very likely you will have problems with glib every single time it gets updated so you will get used to it :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 15:48:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4811065670 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:48:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subscriber+freebsd@markshroyer.com) Received: from markshroyer.com (markshroyer.com [206.251.36.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD2B8FC16 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:48:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from auth-client.mail.markshroyer.com (markshroyer.com [206.251.36.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Mark Allen Shroyer", Issuer "Mark Shroyer Humans CA" (verified OK)) by markshroyer.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD5C214091 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:28:54 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=markshroyer.com; s=default; t=1260545335; bh=mk5ohC/4JO78I0nwaQBCjylaXpHRWywjcDDCqip nBZ4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:In-Reply-To; b=v2GNpNPYIr/HcvspuMfeZwp455PmNhyOJSpukS VAAMdJfyH3IcD8SVJab1DuGdrtdJhhHoKcTTdWxVIZkkObAJxisuBNDeWwS75mqbnAo Yx5uRJiRibQncpNrgpFxZqpXCZ20LDP0EaS2btleYI22xWfbg7G703Rz4s2xL7SqVo= Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:28:46 -0500 From: Mark Shroyer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091211152846.GA4372@markshroyer.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <11167f520912102342y349ebf03tccf886da0ecf53e9@mail.gmail.com> <20091211093023.009125d9.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:48:05 -0000 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 08:49:42AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > I dunno. Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... That's true, it would be difficult to find a local privilege escalation exploit in an operating system without the concept of limited user accounts :) -- Mark Shroyer http://markshroyer.com/contact/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 15:48:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5253106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CF38FC27 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBBFmaD5010868 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:48:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBBFmaeL010865 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:48:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:48:36 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:48:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:48:37 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Carmel wrote: > Honestly, did the 'X' developers go out of their way to break mouse, > and to a lesser degree, keyboard support when upgrading? No, they were trying to upgrade a very old, static system (X11) to support their users. One thing that had been lacking was any support for hotplugging input devices. To implement that, they used HAL, because basically it's the only thing available. So now we have a combination of several unfortunate things: * Users are used to an X11 that has been unchanged for years. * At the same time, xorg users and developers want new features. * The only way to support some of the features is with new software, and HAL was the only thing out there that ran on multiple systems and supported hotplug detection. * HAL is totally unlike X and uses XML config files. * Most xorg development takes place on Linux, where HAL is more common than on FreeBSD. * There are only a couple of FreeBSD developers actively working on the huge and complicated job of porting and supporting xorg. * The first port of xorg-server with HAL support on FreeBSD had a bug. The bug workaround is still being applied by users, long after the bug was fixed, and sometimes--but not always!--it unfixes things. So add all this confusion together, and you end up where we are now. I suspect it seems worse than it really is, since the current xorg will run on a lot of systems without an xorg.conf at all. > This forum has been riddled with questions on why their hardware > (mouse) has stopped working and how to get it working again. If > Microsoft had pulled a bone-headed stunt like this, they would be > chastised; however, hardly a word has been uttered regarding the poor > choices made by the 'X' development team. The other side of that argument is that Microsoft has supported hotplugging input devices for more than a decade. > I question whether they actually tested this product prior to > releasing it. I have been following a few forums besides this one and > they all report the same problem. I realize that 'HAL' has something > to do with this situation also. Perhaps if all the concerned parties > would get their acts together this sort of fiasco would not > continually happen. You could go to the xorg mailing lists at freedesktop.org and set them straight. They might cheerfully offer to refund your money. You could also offer to help development or testing, either to the FreeBSD developers or xorg. > It is really hard to push the merits of an operating system when you > have to give detailed instructions to the potential end user on how to > get a "mouse" to work, when all they have to do in a Win32 based system > is plug it in. xorg is not FreeBSD, but if you're looking for an integrated GUI operating system based on FreeBSD, PC-BSD seems to be well-regarded. > I really cannot fathom a seven year old having to modify > an XML document to facilitate their playing a "How to Spell" CD, > assuming that they could even get the CD operational. Normally you'd start by finding out whether they prefer vi or emacs. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 15:55:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDD5106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E408FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBBFqDLi006531; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:52:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBBFqDCM006530; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:52:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:52:13 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Nick Dalsheimer Message-ID: <20091211155213.GB6418@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <434e042e0912100947y36fadc3bjdb53812196cb6333@mail.gmail.com> <4B2142A7.1010608@sbcglobal.net> <434e042e0912101823t7e1580e6ic42e814f6e5696d1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <434e042e0912101823t7e1580e6ic42e814f6e5696d1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "J.D. Bronson" Subject: Re: fdisk/bsdlabel/disklabel: Class not found? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:55:58 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:23:30PM -0500, Nick Dalsheimer wrote: > So we are saying, that bsdlabel and fdisk are broken? This is *very* > disappointing. Huh? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 15:59:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68ED41065676 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289F48FC20 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBBFtbwU006573; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:55:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBBFtbaS006572; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:55:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:55:37 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20091211155537.GC6418@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091210145056.GA826@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091211045237.b1c089e6.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091211045237.b1c089e6.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , Doug Sampson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP USB 2.0 Tape Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:59:48 -0000 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 04:52:37AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:50:56 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > I don't think you will have a problem using a USB2 interface. > > But, I really cannot recommend DAT. That type of system seems > > to have been pushed beyond its ability. The tapes fail > > frequently. > > What about Ultrium tape? Is it better? Yes. I like the LTO tape system. It writes and reads fast. It seems reliable, though I haven't used it as heavily. It is missing a fast file search ability, so although it reads fast, it takes a while to find files. It is also expensive - like DLT - but if cheap fails, then that is really the most expensive. It is cheaper to get something that is reliable even if it has a higher price. ////jerry > > > But, if you can't read what you thought you wrote, it > > doesn't matter how fast you can search for it. > > A backup not readable is NOT a backup. And because it > isn't, your hard disks will fail. :-) > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 16:03:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C673B106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBD38FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBBG3GT2010934; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:03:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBBG3GJB010931; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:03:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:03:16 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Diego Montalvo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:03:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFCE4 Errors on FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:03:17 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Diego Montalvo wrote: > Got XFCE4 installed after a get amount of tweaking. It turns out > Portsnap did not update all the appropriate files so installed > "portupgrade" and did a portupgrade glib. Glib was not the current > version needed for "usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4". After the portupgrade > "make install clean" worked like a champ. Right, portsnap only updates the ports tree, not applications that have already been installed. The "Upgrading Ports" section in the Handbook talks about that in more detail: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 16:46:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF2A106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370958FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7754D1B45E4 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:46:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id DDE4D1B4043 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:46:19 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:46:15 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: use DD mode or not? and how to set up? Thread-Index: Acp6gXQPiCEsFWkrIk6V2wUCCR7Lsg== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: use DD mode or not? and how to set up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:46:21 -0000 options for setting up gmirror include DD or standard mode. i don't know about others. i'm about to install 8.0-RELEASE on a system with two 750g sata disks that i want to run as a mirrored pair. what are the pros/cons of the different options? and what about the installation process? set up the mirror before installing from the CD or do it like the handbook says? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 15:53:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FF71065670 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657858FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBBFnqIs006500; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:49:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBBFnogl006499; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:49:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:49:50 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20091211154950.GA6418@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <11167f520912102342y349ebf03tccf886da0ecf53e9@mail.gmail.com> <20091211093023.009125d9.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:07:14 +0000 Cc: Polytropon , Bill Moran , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Sam Fourman Jr." , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:53:40 -0000 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 08:49:42AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." > > wrote: > >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed > >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count > >> dragonflyBSD) > > > > VMS would be #0, then? :-) > > I dunno. Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... Chuckle Chuckle Chuckle. I haven't either. Don't see much MS-DOS network activity either... ////jerry > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 > 7 Priory Courtyard > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW, UK > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 17:08:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3E6106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao101.cox.net (fed1rmmtao101.cox.net [68.230.241.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A086C8FC16 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091211170857.QAZD16492.fed1rmmtao101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net>; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:08:57 -0500 Received: from asus64 ([72.220.91.251]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id Ft8w1d0025RPd3404t8wJP; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:08:56 -0500 X-VR-Score: -200.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=hBBxVKrpT8NIO1i2+E6jIs4z/JDusIBXnpwMe9ND0ls= c=1 sm=1 a=aQKPT3jRvjwCBEVvbLbxkw==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Zmspjx-qAAAA:8 a=uVnYgXH-RnsBQb2UrkoA:9 a=nUs0ynwr7EIRCLKicCcA:7 a=Rhrpk-erkGxkeVDy1TM3_xF0bqwA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=aQKPT3jRvjwCBEVvbLbxkw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:08:50 -0800 From: Robert To: Aryeh Friedman Message-ID: <20091211090850.5b32463e@asus64> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.4; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OT: XML newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:08:56 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:50:40 -0500 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I am a relative XML newbie (i.e. our backend does spit out some XML I > wrote but it just slapped together with no knowledge of the > underlaying structure of XML)... Now I am going back and actually > learning XML... our main application is to insert XML directly into > XHTML documents and use either CSS or XSLT (don't know enough to pick > yet) to style them without resorting to javascript... > > Now my question what is a good/reasonable set of command line tools > for working with/debugging/testing all this in such a way I do not > need to rely on the browser... specifically what types (and specific > ones if there is a preference) tools do I need and are there any > recommended procedures for dealing with XML from the command line.... > in the future we may want to also do Java parsing of XML but that > seems to be well handled already in the JDK (1.6) API.... thanks in > advance http://www.w3schools.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 17:13:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ED51065672 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76A98FC15 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676551E30A; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:13:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBBHD4x8001925; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:13:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:13:04 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Leslie Jensen Message-Id: <20091211181304.2c710d8e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4B22553A.9010003@eskk.nu> References: <4B22553A.9010003@eskk.nu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question about yell on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:13:07 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:20:42 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > I have sound working but PC-speaker doesn't seem to be present. Do you have "device SPEAKER" in your kernel config, or have you loaded the appropriate kernel module? You can alway check it with something like # echo "cdefg" > /dev/speaker -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 17:20:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AE7106566B; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:20:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E4A8FC0A; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F0C1E29A; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:20:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBBHKitb001937; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:20:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:20:44 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <20091211182044.c311c2f1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091211154950.GA6418@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <11167f520912102342y349ebf03tccf886da0ecf53e9@mail.gmail.com> <20091211093023.009125d9.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091211154950.GA6418@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:33:43 +0000 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Bill, Moran , "Sam Fourman Jr." , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:20:47 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:49:50 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 08:49:42AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > Polytropon wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." > > > wrote: > > >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed > > >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count > > >> dragonflyBSD) > > > > > > VMS would be #0, then? :-) > > > > I dunno. Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... > > Chuckle Chuckle Chuckle. > I haven't either. > Don't see much MS-DOS network activity either... Lemme check... C:\>ne2000 -w 0x65 0xC 0x300 C:\>doslynx :b echo Looking for Sybille... goto b Ah, there it was! :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 17:46:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991361065696 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5748A8FC20 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6.nber.org (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBBHZ6IS089767 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:35:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from nber6.nber.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nber6.nber.org (8.13.8+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nBBHNspO017461; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:23:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (Unknown UID 1079@localhost) by nber6.nber.org (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id nBBHNs8t017458; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:23:54 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: nber6.nber.org: Unknown UID 1079 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:23:54 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Feenberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20091211 #3357907, check: 20091211 clean Subject: Diskless boot fails when network card is reset before NFS root mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:46:19 -0000 Our dozen diskless FreeBSD 7.0 machines are all able to diskless boot just fine. However, when we tried to set up a FreeBSD 8.0 root for them to boot from, the boot process would load up all the devices, and then fail right after the line "NFS ROOT: ..." We boot using pxeboot. pxeboot then mounts our NFS root and runs the loader from /boot under there. After the beastie screen, loader runs the kernel. All this works fine under both 7 and 8. On both 7 and 8, we see messages of the form "em0: link state changed to down","em0: link state changed to up". They happen right before or after NFS ROOT. Then, on version 8, we see error messages about /devfs not being found, and eventually /sbin/init not being found. We surmise that what happens is that the kernel resets the ethernet interface, right before re-mounting the NFS root (note that the NFS root was already mounted back before the beastie screen). On 8, somehow the interface reset interferes with the nfs mount resulting in no root FS. This problem seems to be referred to here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2009-January/020666.html Have others seen this issue? Is it a known bug? Is there a workaround or a fix? It seems to us, not being kernel hackers, a particularly difficult problem to get a handle on because execution is being controlled by the kernel at that point, there is no loader script or rc script that one could insert debugging print statements into. A complete description of our diskless boot procedure is given at: http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/FreeBSD-diskless.html which has worked well on several prior versions of FreeBSD. The network card is an Intel Pro/1000 card - well supported by FreeBSD. - Alex Aminoff BaseSpace.net National Bureau of Economic Research (nber.org) - Daniel Feenberg feenberg@nber.org National Bureau of Economic Research (nber.org) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 18:35:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A640E106566B; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (d80.iso100.no [81.175.61.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1318FC18; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.13] (unknown [192.168.4.13]) (Authenticated sender: svein) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 1221472; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:35:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B2290EF.5010204@stillbilde.net> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:35:27 +0100 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?RGFnLUVybGluZyBTbcO4cmdyYXY=?= References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <86tyvxlk68.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4B225077.3040009@stillbilde.net> <86iqcdli48.fsf@ds4.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86iqcdli48.fsf@ds4.des.no> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, $witch , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:35:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > "Svein Skogen" writes: >> The easiest way of brute-forcing access to a FreeBSD server includes >> locating the sysadmin and applying the common desk drawer. 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X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: A question about yell on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:57:41 -0000 On Friday 11 December 2009 18:13:04 Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:20:42 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > I have sound working but PC-speaker doesn't seem to be present. > > Do you have "device SPEAKER" in your kernel config, > or have you loaded the appropriate kernel module? > > You can alway check it with something like > > # echo "cdefg" > /dev/speaker Must not... can't resist... echo "cdec cdec efg~ efg~ L8gagfL4ec L8gagfL4ec cc~ cc~" > /dev/speaker :-) Warning: do not add this to your .(z|ba|c)shrc. - Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 19:26:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B08B106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weldon@excelsusphoto.com) Received: from mx0.excelsus.net (emmett.excelsus.com [74.93.113.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0146E8FC1D for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 67162 invoked by uid 89); 11 Dec 2009 18:59:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.excelsus.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2009 18:59:52 -0000 Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:59:52 -0500 (EST) From: Weldon S Godfrey 3 X-X-Sender: weldon@emmett.excelsus.com To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20091211154950.GA6418@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <11167f520912102342y349ebf03tccf886da0ecf53e9@mail.gmail.com> <20091211093023.009125d9.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091211154950.GA6418@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:26:36 -0000 If memory serves me right, sometime around 10:49am, Jerry McAllister told me: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 08:49:42AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> Polytropon wrote: >>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." >>> wrote: >>>> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed >>>> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count >>>> dragonflyBSD) >>> >>> VMS would be #0, then? :-) >> >> I dunno. Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... > > Chuckle Chuckle Chuckle. > I haven't either. > Don't see much MS-DOS network activity either... > > ////jerry > nor any AtariDOS either. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 19:34:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC5C1065676 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:34:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606EE8FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (adsl-68-125-161-188.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [68.125.161.188]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBBJYqAU000169; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:34:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B229EDB.3090702@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:34:51 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <4B21A487.5010200@rawbw.com> <4B21EA4A.40306@infracaninophile.co.uk> <54060791@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <54060791@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:34:53 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > ...and remove /compat/linux/home if it exists. > You should make sure that installer doesn't create /compat/linux/home. Because I never created it myself, must have been installer. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 19:41:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4000106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5CD8FC19 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NJBMM-000K4s-3K; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:41:02 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <4B21A487.5010200@rawbw.com> <4B21EA4A.40306@infracaninophile.co.uk> <54060791@bb.ipt.ru> <4B229EDB.3090702@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:41:02 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4B229EDB.3090702@rawbw.com> (yuri@rawbw.com's message of "Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:34:51 -0800") Message-ID: <96932353@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:41:03 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:34:51 -0800 Yuri wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: > > ...and remove /compat/linux/home if it exists. > You should make sure that installer doesn't create /compat/linux/home. > Because I never created it myself, must have been installer. Please show me how can I repeat that case. Or at least show # ls -l /compat/linux -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 19:53:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3521065670 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sisson.j@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BB68FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10so1365962fxm.34 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:53:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1OYoBEXGsVmV3rPBOENDRxoGE1OWN3mib1afV5la8vk=; b=WkIpt0Nu9rT8rNlrWno/53+N7S+MC/5rT4OzpetJ81RT/2vfrMCktIiU4DFfWnuSKi JockD/3WY1AtkqCcUf64eT61KAKAFi5wDop5NN5iG0hU+GW7N/DyDHxt1IBe9HYtZTTS USTb3ZPgLOOWKxU34tpD286fXm1B35zhpy/jY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=NSyZN6LIsptDz54bF9T1yTaeLveuhgTdKa6Jhyu/j+VIltaPu60zhkEhgv1B4tLf2t fjj8UdK/TiU7FAi07ZIMhcoG7hPSr6eNmtEHX3AT5pEutQkWG8ZfwSJrFBEaZw9IwcAo qijCFZxJ1y0h1HF5jo/izX+KFEKWTVInbwfKI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.145 with SMTP id q17mr212472hbg.136.1260561216380; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:53:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B225077.3040009@stillbilde.net> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <86tyvxlk68.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4B225077.3040009@stillbilde.net> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:53:36 -0600 Message-ID: <4297a9020912111153r1ec93838i12d1fd3aae5c61e@mail.gmail.com> From: J Sisson To: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:53:38 -0000 2009/12/11 Svein Skogen (Listmail Account) > The easiest way of brute-forcing access to a FreeBSD server includes > locating the sysadmin and applying the common desk drawer. It's that > simple. > http://xkcd.com/538/ indeed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 19:58:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B483106568B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB89F8FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NJBd3-0005yV-6c for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:58:17 +0100 Received: from pool-68-239-72-201.res.east.verizon.net ([68.239.72.201]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:58:17 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-68-239-72-201.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:58:17 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:57:49 -0500 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-68-239-72-201.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/4.3.4 Sender: news Subject: Re: use DD mode or not? and how to set up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:58:20 -0000 Tom Worster wrote: > options for setting up gmirror include DD or standard mode. i don't know > about others. > > i'm about to install 8.0-RELEASE on a system with two 750g sata disks that > i want to run as a mirrored pair. > > what are the pros/cons of the different options? > > and what about the installation process? set up the mirror before > installing from the CD or do it like the handbook says? > I believe DD mode is going away. Probably has something to do with adding features to loader for GPT support. A GPT places what's called a "protective" MBR in the place where the old DOS style MBR would normally occupy. I would avoid DD. Last question is easy if dealing with a true hardware RAID card, as you will create the array in the card's BIOS and FreeBSD will just see that as ar0 and install to that. As far as a perfect answer I'm not certain. There is one little tidbit that may assist though. The metadata gets stored in the last sector at the end of an empty disk. As long as there is free space at the end of the drive(s) it won't matter which way you do it. The Handbook is essentially reconfiguring an already virgin install existing on the first drive. When rebooted into this changed configuration, the second drive is then added to the mirror and replication will take place. The less amount of data present will speed this replication and get you to mirrored status quicker. I've done this a couple of times and it was pretty straightforward. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 20:49:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8081065672 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5198FC15 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2434377D1; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:49:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:49:42 +0100 From: cpghost To: Aryeh Friedman Message-ID: <20091211204941.GA54396@phenom.cordula.ws> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OT: XML newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:49:48 -0000 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 01:50:40AM -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I am a relative XML newbie (i.e. our backend does spit out some XML I > wrote but it just slapped together with no knowledge of the > underlaying structure of XML)... Now I am going back and actually > learning XML... our main application is to insert XML directly into > XHTML documents and use either CSS or XSLT (don't know enough to pick > yet) to style them without resorting to javascript... I'm using xsltproc from the port textproc/libxslt to apply custom XSLT style sheets to XML files, resulting in XHTML output. Works great, and is super fast. xsltproc also understands the xmlns:exsl extensions, which means that it can generate multiple output files from a single XML input file, using the exsl:document element (very useful in the context of XHTML generation where you need to create multiple interlinked pages). > Now my question what is a good/reasonable set of command line tools > for working with/debugging/testing all this in such a way I do not > need to rely on the browser... specifically what types (and specific > ones if there is a preference) tools do I need and are there any > recommended procedures for dealing with XML from the command line.... > in the future we may want to also do Java parsing of XML but that > seems to be well handled already in the JDK (1.6) API.... thanks in > advance You can test the XML prior to applying XSLT, using something like xmllint from textproc/libxml2. xmllint is also particularly useful, if your main XML file inputs (with xi:include) other XML files (use the option --xinclude), and it can verify DTD as well. I also use www/linklint on the set of generated XHTML files to check for broken links etc..., though I guess it could be automated at the XML (DTD?) level too. Regards, -cpghost -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 21:01:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1B5106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:01:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DBA8FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so884173iwn.3 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:01:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6eYnsEVWlOle2IfbQMxnsTPsPzLl8f2dvBBljFy+jPk=; b=LzhZrQOex7Z5q6Xh+VEWkE5cjZyX3Eno5m3RtCWjLZbTkMmTa/XIfyzK2DXdXTEbGt eZ5qVfbB4wBwV5KB1iv99hh0WpyTBYmJZXeJc8hgiDTTOXaCQMdo41+YExRl+HJjBxtK XW4VZGFpGRQfy4z8WNxd7KJYR8yz6jLqPH5Rg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lxvaX1jrEc2mvClN2qtizwlCRiNWPdnbwtmG3CP39rQ19a2bhAn+lFcTboL4uuMPxg LN75fuGg79pEO2j1QSWsZB6FrrFyGf+HFpWvuCetK+uErK6/zu3zhQPu0VQGCNd9r9yU D1qo9LGcOXoByp48M+HZVAzniWw2CVGJX1YSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.120.90 with SMTP id c26mr1803395ibr.1.1260565311430; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:01:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4297a9020912111153r1ec93838i12d1fd3aae5c61e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <86tyvxlk68.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4B225077.3040009@stillbilde.net> <4297a9020912111153r1ec93838i12d1fd3aae5c61e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:01:51 -0800 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:01:52 -0000 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:53, J Sisson wrote: > 2009/12/11 Svein Skogen (Listmail Account) > >> The easiest way of brute-forcing access to a FreeBSD server includes >> locating the sysadmin and applying the common desk drawer. It's that >> simple. >> > > http://xkcd.com/538/ > > indeed. Well, yes, except this assumes one has access to the sysadmin... Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 21:26:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C331065670 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s31.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s31.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B646B8FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP26 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s31.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:26:31 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.183.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.183.172]) by BLU0-SMTP26.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:26:30 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D1A422834 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:26:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:26:29 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2009 21:26:30.0602 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AF062A0:01CA7AA8] Subject: Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:26:32 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:48:36 -0700 (MST) Warren Block replied: >On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Carmel wrote: > >> Honestly, did the 'X' developers go out of their way to break mouse, >> and to a lesser degree, keyboard support when upgrading? > >No, they were trying to upgrade a very old, static system (X11) to >support their users. One thing that had been lacking was any support >for hotplugging input devices. To implement that, they used HAL, >because basically it's the only thing available. Correct me if I am wrong; however, I believe I read that 'HAL' is dead. Further work on it is not going to happen. If that is correct, are we to expect another fiasco when its replacement comes online. >So now we have a combination of several unfortunate things: > >* Users are used to an X11 that has been unchanged for years. >* At the same time, xorg users and developers want new features. >* The only way to support some of the features is with new software, >and > HAL was the only thing out there that ran on multiple systems and > supported hotplug detection. >* HAL is totally unlike X and uses XML config files. >* Most xorg development takes place on Linux, where HAL is more common > than on FreeBSD. >* There are only a couple of FreeBSD developers actively working on >the huge > and complicated job of porting and supporting xorg. >* The first port of xorg-server with HAL support on FreeBSD had a bug. > The bug workaround is still being applied by users, long after the > bug was fixed, and sometimes--but not always!--it unfixes things. > >So add all this confusion together, and you end up where we are now. >I suspect it seems worse than it really is, since the current xorg >will run on a lot of systems without an xorg.conf at all. > >> This forum has been riddled with questions on why their hardware >> (mouse) has stopped working and how to get it working again. If >> Microsoft had pulled a bone-headed stunt like this, they would be >> chastised; however, hardly a word has been uttered regarding the >> poor choices made by the 'X' development team. > >The other side of that argument is that Microsoft has supported >hotplugging input devices for more than a decade. I have often wondered what the delay in developing hot-plugging in non-win32 systems was. Worse, HAL requiring the creation of of XML files sort of defeats the entire concept of 'plug & play'. >> I question whether they actually tested this product prior to >> releasing it. I have been following a few forums besides this one >> and they all report the same problem. I realize that 'HAL' has >> something to do with this situation also. Perhaps if all the >> concerned parties would get their acts together this sort of fiasco >> would not continually happen. > >You could go to the xorg mailing lists at freedesktop.org and set them >straight. They might cheerfully offer to refund your money. I think you are being overly glib regarding this problem. I stand by my original statement that the parties involved should have tested the final product more thoroughly. As a side note, I officiate youth league sport's programs in my spare time. I don't get paid either. Still, I would never do a crap job just because I was not being financially compensated for my efforts. >You could also offer to help development or testing, either to the >FreeBSD developers or xorg. I have beta tested applications in the past. I was not aware that Xorg was releasing beta products aimed at FreeBSD. I was under the impression that offerings from Xorg were only ported to FreeBSD after they were released to Linux users. >> It is really hard to push the merits of an operating system when you >> have to give detailed instructions to the potential end user on how >> to get a "mouse" to work, when all they have to do in a Win32 based >> system is plug it in. > >xorg is not FreeBSD, but if you're looking for an integrated GUI >operating system based on FreeBSD, PC-BSD seems to be well-regarded. I never meant to infer that FreeBSD == xorg. >> I really cannot fathom a seven year old having to modify >> an XML document to facilitate their playing a "How to Spell" CD, >> assuming that they could even get the CD operational. > >Normally you'd start by finding out whether they prefer vi or emacs. Absolutely; anything but OO. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | If one cannot enjoy reading a book over and over again, there is no use in reading it at all. Oscar Wilde From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 21:33:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C32106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=58992e26b=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CD68FC14 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:33:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,384,1257141600"; d="scan'208";a="23878743" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2009 15:04:22 -0600 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA8EA4EF73; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:04:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:04:22 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Glen Barber , Warren Block Message-ID: <8E342D86408C0B77A05A484A@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310912110559w7a6fdce7s53359a6ceda64399@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310912110559w7a6fdce7s53359a6ceda64399@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: questions@freebsd.org, mpd Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:33:23 -0000 --On Friday, December 11, 2009 07:59:00 -0600 Glen Barber wrote: > > I suppose this falls under the "works for me" category - I haven't > ever used HAL on FreeBSD. > I have, and I would say that it's not quite ready for primetime. So I'm back to manual configuration and happy about it. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 21:45:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A884106568B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abletony84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f198.google.com (mail-iw0-f198.google.com [209.85.223.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081B78FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn36 with SMTP id 36so908539iwn.3 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:45:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=DHGKbeKJdj121nKafYr6LvstjzlCNJkNoy38gLMIHyQ=; b=Pcp1zasd+VG3lk0nbQRhN1c75w4DvsqFEqIsMJZbixvd0k/ZlA/AuPJG029xjZUMEa ddYL9vOGoDyRSGIuV/SOAoG/gRmfxFNBdnxkQiCiiPsuC4Sp83b97TekiBUbrdTBjU9p S8sU7ZuB4BJljcAA2uXa20FFA7QytqYCyrnyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ddbjNquFMn66LZuDtBFqUJLTweUOZCLeT+XbCXa815R2P2+W7ZcMolNh0U+3UrStgU SUbW4V/vHew1tuP54/AsNo3EH66+82b/rZL4sdtt78iDiC+SWFgAFfmbmecusTe324j8 ToBbkbnt+nZ4Tjch7xRpXVHtVbjQfzeMWkFdc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.25.199 with SMTP id a7mr1609758ibc.51.1260566254320; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:17:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:17:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tony Maserati To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: csup /etc/cvsupfile: Updater failed: Protocol error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:45:29 -0000 Hi, csup /etc/cvsupfile stopped working today. I don't know why, it's been working for years. Connected to 129.241.103.69 Updating collection src-all/cvs Updater failed: Protocol error - # cat /etc/cvsupfile *default host=cvsup.no.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all doc-all tag=. - # telnet 129.241.103.69 cvsup Trying 129.241.103.69... Connected to c2h5oh.idi.ntnu.no. Escape character is '^]'. OK 17 0 SNAP_16_1h CVSup server ready - # uname FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 24 18:57:08 CEST 2008 - Anybody have a clue? I really appreciate it - thanks a bunch! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 21:57:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8AE106568B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf03.insightbb.com (mxsf03.insightbb.com [74.128.0.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095AE8FC17 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:57:09 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwEAEtPIkvQLicL/2dsb2JhbACBS9QkhCsEgWM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,384,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="769351811" Received: from unknown (HELO asav01.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2009 16:57:08 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,384,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="237950259" Received: from 208-46-39-11.dia.static.qwest.net (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([208.46.39.11]) by asavout01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2009 16:57:08 -0500 From: Steven Friedrich To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:57:06 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p5; KDE/4.3.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912111657.06299.freebsd@insightbb.com> Cc: Subject: startx and xinit under FreeBSD8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:57:10 -0000 I installed FreeBSD to another partition, so I could check it out. I selected All sources and binaries and KDE4. When I tried startx, it complained that it didn't exist. It's just a script, so I copied it over from my 7.2p5 partition. Now it complains that xinit doesn't exist. Why didn't these two get laid-down by the install?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 22:00:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76E2106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8065E8FC14 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBBLudxZ008140; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:56:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nBBLudBx008139; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:56:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:56:39 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Steven Friedrich Message-ID: <20091211215639.GA8100@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200912111657.06299.freebsd@insightbb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200912111657.06299.freebsd@insightbb.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: startx and xinit under FreeBSD8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:00:26 -0000 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 04:57:06PM -0500, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I installed FreeBSD to another partition, so I could check it out. > I selected All sources and binaries and KDE4. > > When I tried startx, it complained that it didn't exist. > It's just a script, so I copied it over from my 7.2p5 partition. > Now it complains that xinit doesn't exist. > > Why didn't these two get laid-down by the install?? Well, you now need to either select X during install or install it from ports after the installation. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 22:15:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AF5106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ly41k@ukr.net) Received: from fsm1.ukr.net (fsm1.ukr.net [195.214.192.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA8D8FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from circusless.gum.volia.net ([77.122.137.148] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by fsm1.ukr.net with esmtpsa ID 1NJDQ1-0001wM-UA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:52:57 +0200 From: ly4uk Root To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:52:50 +0200 Message-ID: <1260568370.99298.49.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: disk with high frequency noise only on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:15:59 -0000 It was really big surprise for me to find Your topic! Because many people at forums said me a lot of times that my drive is probably broken and this is not a problem related to freebsd. Had same results as Yours on ubuntu linux month ago - noise absent at all. But, I understood so You have no overheating problems with freebsd as my laptop, witch had been shutting down while compile/"overload". So for now, there is no such temperature related problems after some hoover cleaning), but drive is still squeaking. Now I'm using freebsd 8.0, not fresh install, got it from seven release (at almost year ago) by tracking stable branch. All noise came exactly in one reboot while upgrading to 8.0-RC2. So, it would be interesting to get Your answer about possible solutions(if You know such) or maybe some comments(if don't). I will be very happy for that, many excuse for disturbance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 22:17:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F66106568F for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out10.libero.it (cp-out10.libero.it [212.52.84.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775658FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.164.240) by cp-out10.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4B1D184A00CF1A63 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:17:55 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBBMHsJk060647 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:17:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4B22C512.90009@netfence.it> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:17:54 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090828) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B1A5644.4090302@netfence.it> <200912071224.11130.tijl@coosemans.org> <4B1D6F70.8050402@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <4B1D6F70.8050402@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: WINE on 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:17:57 -0000 Andrea Venturoli ha scritto: > Tijl Coosemans ha scritto: >> On Saturday 05 December 2009 13:47:00 Andrea Venturoli wrote: >>> Is WINE usable on 6.3/i386? >>> I cannot seem to start any win32 program and before I spend time into >>> it, I thought I just ask. >> >> You probably need the FreeBSD 6.x patch at http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine >> > > Unfortunately this didn't help. > > WINE is still seems to be hogging the CPU and doing nothing. I did some more testing. I've got 3 machines: the one I'm working on, running the X server and two boxes which I ssh into. All three are running 6.3/i386, the same version of Wine and dependencies. Wine works fine if I start it on the machine where the X server is, but exhibits the afore mentioned problems if I run it on the box I ssh into. Of course X forwarding is working (tested with a lot of other applications). So I ask: is this a known problem? Has anyone Wine working with X11 forwarded through ssh? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 22:56:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92C91065693 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hkunst@moneyfitness.com) Received: from mail.truebridge.com (mail.truebridge.com [216.75.192.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449018FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31729 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2009 17:28:42 -0500 Received: from static-71-243-118-33.bos.east.verizon.net (HELO ?192.168.199.40?) (hkunst@71.243.118.33) by mail.truebridge.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2009 17:28:42 -0500 Message-ID: <4B22C778.5070200@moneyfitness.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:28:08 -0500 From: Holger Kunst User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0pre Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Email sent from "at" command going to the wrong account X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:56:45 -0000 Hi, The "at" command sends and email with the output of the scheduled job. I've experienced inconsistent results when running jobs, receiving emails in accounts not associated with the user currently logged in. To reproduce in FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 Case #1 login as user a (new shell through ssh) echo "echo 1" | at now --> user a will receive an email containing "1" - this is as expected Case #2 login as user a (new shell through ssh) login as user b exit echo "echo 1" | at now --> user b will receive an email containing "1" - this is not as expected, since I am user a again A look at the source for "at" reveals that "at" is getting the mailname from getlogin(). Running a small test program that outputs getlogin(), confirms the above behavior: A log-in and out of another account makes getlogin() return that account's name, even though the shell has been closed and we are back to the original shell and the original user a. Is this the intended behavior? Any hints would be apprecaited. Best regards, Holger Kunst From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 23:05:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B25B106566B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3408FC16 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6.nber.org (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBBN4nwT052902 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:04:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from nber6.nber.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nber6.nber.org (8.13.8+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nBBMrkh8023790; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:53:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (Unknown UID 1079@localhost) by nber6.nber.org (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id nBBMrkn4023787; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:53:46 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: nber6.nber.org: Unknown UID 1079 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:53:46 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Feenberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20091211 #3360436, check: 20091211 clean Cc: Alex Aminoff Subject: RE: Diskless boot fails when network card is reset before NFS root mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:05:04 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=139363 suggests "the fix is to set boot.nfsroot.options="nfsv2" in /boot/loader.conf or via dhcp." I can see how to set options in /boot/loader.conf, but I don't see how boot loader options can be set in dhcpd.conf. All I have is: next-server 66.251.72.4; filename "pxeboot"; option root-path "66.251.72.44:/vol/vol1b/FreeBSD-7.2-root"; Where would the boot loader options go? Are they a numbered option? Which one? Daniel Feenberg NBER From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 23:17:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854D0106566C for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700D68FC18 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (75-16-27-70.berkeley-public.org [75.16.27.70] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBBNHLM4051035; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:17:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B22D2FF.8070908@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:17:19 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <4B21A487.5010200@rawbw.com> <4B21EA4A.40306@infracaninophile.co.uk> <54060791@bb.ipt.ru> <4B229EDB.3090702@rawbw.com> <96932353@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <96932353@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:17:21 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > Please show me how can I repeat that case. Or at least show > # ls -l /compat/linux > The problem is actually a bug (?) in googleearth, that it leaves the lock file when it finishes ungracefully, and after it is restarted it complains about this file without understanding that the previous process is dead. But it talks about /home/.... files, and it's confusing since it really talks about /compat/linux/home/... files. Now I found who creates /compat/linux/home. It's skype. After I delete /compat/linux/home and relaunch skype it recreates it. So maybe to prevent such things link /compat/linux/home -> /home should be created by installer? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 11 23:24:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FFC106566B; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail2.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:107:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BCB8FC16; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:24:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBBNNumj005611 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:23:56 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 309C21CC09; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:23:56 -0800 (PST) To: Matthew Seaman In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 GMT." <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:23:56 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2009-12-11_15:2009-12-11, 2009-12-11, 2009-12-11 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-0912110212 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:30:34 +0000 Cc: Polytropon , Bill Moran , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Sam Fourman Jr." , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:24:09 -0000 > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +0000 > From: Matthew Seaman > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: > >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed > >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count > >> dragonflyBSD) > > > > VMS would be #0, then? :-) > > I dunno. Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... I'm sure that there are systems happily running MSDOS, but I bet not too many are networked. I know that there is still a lot of VMS out there and that it has remained a cash cow for HP. It lived on primarily in the banking and financial sector, though I guess the use is dropping since HP recently outsourced support to India and that lead to the retirement of the last of the original VMS developers, Andy Goldstein. Also, the the end of TECO as Andy was responsible for porting it to almost every platform DEC ever sold (RSX, RSTS, VMS, TOPS-10 and TOPS-20, RT-11, and several others) and continued to maintain it until his retirement. (Most readers of this list probably don't even remember TECO.) And, for may years VMS had major network security problems, especially the infamous default DECNET/DECNET account that lead to may compromises and the second major network worm, Worms Against Nuclear Killers. (I won't use the acronym so as not to offend our British readers. I found out about that when the BBC interviewed me about it and I was told that I could not utter the word.) -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 00:06:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D247B106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE068FC08 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBC061S1012498; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:06:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBC06156012495; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:06:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:06:01 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Carmel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:06:01 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:06:03 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Carmel wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:48:36 -0700 (MST) > Warren Block replied: >> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Carmel wrote: >> >> No, they were trying to upgrade a very old, static system (X11) to >> support their users. One thing that had been lacking was any support >> for hotplugging input devices. To implement that, they used HAL, >> because basically it's the only thing available. > > Correct me if I am wrong; however, I believe I read that 'HAL' is dead. "Maintenance mode", so more like a zombie, but yes. > Further work on it is not going to happen. If that is correct, are we > to expect another fiasco when its replacement comes online. Possibly. It depends on the level of integration and testing done before release. >> The other side of that argument is that Microsoft has supported >> hotplugging input devices for more than a decade. > > I have often wondered what the delay in developing hot-plugging in > non-win32 systems was. Worse, HAL requiring the creation of of XML > files sort of defeats the entire concept of 'plug & play'. Normally, the user shouldn't have to create XML files. The new hal-0.5.13_12 solves some serious problems I had with the earlier version. Maybe problems other people had too, but there haven't been any posts about someone trying HAL again and seeing if it works better now. >>> I question whether they actually tested this product prior to >>> releasing it. I have been following a few forums besides this one >>> and they all report the same problem. I realize that 'HAL' has >>> something to do with this situation also. Perhaps if all the >>> concerned parties would get their acts together this sort of fiasco >>> would not continually happen. >> >> You could go to the xorg mailing lists at freedesktop.org and set them >> straight. They might cheerfully offer to refund your money. > > I think you are being overly glib regarding this problem. I stand by my > original statement that the parties involved should have tested the > final product more thoroughly. I admit I was thinking of Monty Python on "how to rid the world of all known diseases". Point being that "more testing" is easier to say than do. > As a side note, I officiate youth league sport's programs in my spare > time. I don't get paid either. Still, I would never do a crap job just > because I was not being financially compensated for my efforts. Of course not: you do the best you can with what you've got. As the xorg and FreeBSD developers did and continue to do. >> You could also offer to help development or testing, either to the >> FreeBSD developers or xorg. > > I have beta tested applications in the past. I was not aware that Xorg > was releasing beta products aimed at FreeBSD. I was under the > impression that offerings from Xorg were only ported to FreeBSD after > they were released to Linux users. There's always testing going on before the latest xorg is released on FreeBSD. Sometimes requests for testing are announced on freebsd-x11. It's also possible to contact the developers directly and offer to test. That can be particularly helpful if you have hardware the developers don't. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 00:29:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0F0106566C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:29:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf02.insightbb.com (mxsf02.insightbb.com [74.128.0.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF698FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:29:02 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwEAJpyIkvQLicL/2dsb2JhbACBS9QehCsE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,385,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="685183315" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf02.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2009 19:29:00 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,385,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="117060121" Received: from 208-46-39-11.dia.static.qwest.net (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([208.46.39.11]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2009 19:29:00 -0500 From: Steven Friedrich To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:28:59 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p5; KDE/4.3.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912111928.59833.freebsd@insightbb.com> Cc: Subject: SMB shares vs. FreeBSD8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:29:02 -0000 My SMB share, a 320GB WD NetCenter, fails to mount because the rl ethernet isn't up yet. I dual-boot 7.2 and 8.0. I've addedd noauto to the declaration in fstab, and I'll just mount it when I need it. I know usb has been completely re-written, but is that the cause? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 00:32:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDEF106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 790B98FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Dec 2009 00:31:59 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 12 Dec 2009 01:31:59 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19/+EMLqvl/eLNTb/aVe+eF1upe9v/PRR6I62b+VT JqmBiU7jih9YLY Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:31:54 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20091212003154.GB3054@sandcat> References: <4B22553A.9010003@eskk.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B22553A.9010003@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.62 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question about yell on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:32:02 -0000 Leslie, /boot/loader.conf has to contain: speaker_load="YES" and even the little beep is a port to install: /usr/ports/audio/beep Cheers herb langhans On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 03:20:42PM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > I'm using audio/Yell a lot when I compile and run other scripted tasks. > > On my laptop with FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p1 I can't get yell to make any > sounds at all. > > I'm wondering if you can give me any hints on how to make yell work on > my laptop, Dell Latitude E65000. > > I have sound working but PC-speaker doesn't seem to be present. > > Thanks > > /Leslie > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 03:30:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BBF106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A5D8FC17 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (pool-71-109-144-133.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.144.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBC3U6wu013079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:30:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:30:06 -0800 To: freebsd-questions - Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: I am not understanding something about pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:30:08 -0000 I am running 7.2-Stable with pf. I have the following pf.conf: no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port smtp no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port smtp rdr pass inet proto tcp from any to any port smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port = spamd This is the basic spamd configuration with an extra table = which lists hosts to go directly to the mail server. = Everything works properly. Hosts not in either spamd table go to spamd = and those in either spamd table go directly to the mail server. = However, the pf statistics don't seem to make sense to me. I always see = the following: no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port =3D smtp [ Evaluations: 1193433 Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 States: = 0 ] [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 73310 ] no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port =3D smtp [ Evaluations: 110124 Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 States: = 0 ] [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 73310 ] rdr pass inet proto tcp from any to any port =3D smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port = 8025 [ Evaluations: 110124 Packets: 63 Bytes: 3516 States: = 1 ] [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 73310 ] Where the first two entries never show any Packets and the third shows = everything. Does "no rdr" work differently than "rdr" with the = statistics? I understood from the Book of PF that the rules were = evaluated such that the last matching rule is used. Hence I think that = with the above conf file the spamd-white-local table would never get = used as the connection will match one of the 2 following rules. So I ran another test by putting the first rule last: no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port smtp rdr pass inet proto tcp from any to any port smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port = spamd no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port smtp Now entries in are ignored and, the statistics are = quite different: no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port =3D smtp [ Evaluations: 79 Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 States: = 0 ] [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 86983 ] rdr pass inet proto tcp from any to any port =3D smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port = 8025 [ Evaluations: 52 Packets: 25 Bytes: 1395 States: = 1 ] [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 86983 ] no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port =3D smtp [ Evaluations: 0 Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 States: = 0 ] [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 86983 ] Now the last rule says its never evaluated. This indicates that its the = first rule that matches that is used rather than the last. However, why = are there never any packets counted in the "no rdr" rules? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 04:03:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B5B1065676 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2E68FC08 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBC43lah005653 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:03:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:03:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:03:47 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091212040344.GA1939@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: "unable to connect to host".... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:03:56 -0000 Regarding the sage of the migration to a new server, I thought things were working when I went to bed. Turns out this was only because I had the old server going too. (I did some edit on my new web server but the chances didn't show up. Only the old server was replying.) Now, using lynx, I get the err that it 'Can't connect to host'. The new server is 10.47.0.230, but dig is still seeing my old server, 10.47.0.240. Any ideas why lynx cannot connect outside the server itself?? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 01:06:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B744A106566B; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulf@alameda.net) Received: from mail.alameda.net (mail.alameda.net [194.55.105.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF828FC14; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.alameda.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A61C91CC71; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:48:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:48:41 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Kevin Oberman Message-ID: <20091212004841.GR2939@evil.alameda.net> References: <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-ANI-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ANI-MailScanner-ID: A61C91CC71.A4B24 X-ANI-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ANI-MailScanner-From: ulf@alameda.net X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:37:27 +0000 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Bill Moran , "Sam Fourman Jr." , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:06:50 -0000 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 03:23:56PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +0000 > > From: Matthew Seaman > > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > > > Polytropon wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: > > >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed > > >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't count > > >> dragonflyBSD) > > > > > > VMS would be #0, then? :-) > > > > I dunno. Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... > > I'm sure that there are systems happily running MSDOS, but I bet not too > many are networked. > > I know that there is still a lot of VMS out there and that it has > remained a cash cow for HP. It lived on primarily in the banking and > financial sector, though I guess the use is dropping since HP recently > outsourced support to India and that lead to the retirement of the last > of the original VMS developers, Andy Goldstein. Just go to Fry's Electronic. Most of their systems are still MS-Dos with Novell for network, running text based inventory/quote/sales app. > > Also, the the end of TECO as Andy was responsible for porting it to > almost every platform DEC ever sold (RSX, RSTS, VMS, TOPS-10 and > TOPS-20, RT-11, and several others) and continued to maintain it until > his retirement. (Most readers of this list probably don't even remember > TECO.) > > And, for may years VMS had major network security problems, especially > the infamous default DECNET/DECNET account that lead to may compromises > and the second major network worm, Worms Against Nuclear Killers. (I > won't use the acronym so as not to offend our British readers. I found > out about that when the BBC interviewed me about it and I was told that > I could not utter the word.) > -- > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) > Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 You can find my resume at: http://www.Alameda.net/~ulf/resume.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 05:00:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5952E106566B; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF92D8FC15; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2009 23:59:59 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QJH69022; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:59:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2009 23:59:58 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19235.9037.745429.518011@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:59:57 -0500 To: ulf@Alameda.net In-Reply-To: <20091212004841.GR2939@evil.alameda.net> References: <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net> <20091212004841.GR2939@evil.alameda.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:50:05 +0000 Cc: Kevin Oberman , Polytropon , Bill Moran , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Sam Fourman Jr." , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:00:00 -0000 Ulf Zimmermann writes: > Just go to Fry's Electronic. Most of their systems are still > MS-Dos with Novell for network, running text based > inventory/quote/sales app. Ca _lot_ of small businesses have something similar. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 07:31:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A831065670 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xsappyx@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFD78FC1A for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so408853fgg.13 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:31:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LeKeJ9SfJDQxVEx4OY04+1t8bVuAwqeXtGwNWpgdL1g=; b=NkSRwnw3OHTPDrTw85UxJ6dGr1PhO/sMt8A9Qs3q+APWiAGYOp7ZG2KZJ/UTnIQ3Gt omwX4p9Md09Kfx2i+oxGzI9zNNCCRuiSgX895R/cCKpzAPlnBkAYaPOUQqdPbhpKUCqu CvBESIYmMq+Ou0K9Z4JjkD0quV07gTCEAVkkk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=XFjYthLyvQ4mpebhws/+Fo+eJjZBy15X41d30NAI5MNEkU0XQpK7JZqao4446a54dN STydQX3dXs1Tx/UfSuI7iSKMuN1Y4SPjSs6v8bC/cq+N1xuyQm0ly4mfOJunoDisXK8n iOtJ3/Q6jqRIGl1WI2YqXKI5NDwOZ2vfvgxgQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.213 with SMTP id l21mr234385hbe.26.1260603070394; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:31:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:31:10 -0800 Message-ID: <8206ae960912112331p447a4057s8387c15e391dd9ef@mail.gmail.com> From: xSAPPYx To: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions - Subject: Re: I am not understanding something about pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:31:12 -0000 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: > I am running 7.2-Stable with pf. I have the following pf.conf: > > no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port smtp > no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port smtp > rdr pass inet proto tcp from any to any port smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port spamd > > This is the basic spamd configuration with an extra table > which lists hosts to go directly to the mail server. > Everything works properly. Hosts not in either spamd table go to spamd and > those in either spamd table go directly to the mail server. However, the pf > statistics don't seem to make sense to me. I always see the following: > > no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port = smtp > [ Evaluations: 1193433 Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 States: 0 > ] > [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 73310 ] > no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port = smtp > [ Evaluations: 110124 Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 States: 0 > ] > [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 73310 ] > rdr pass inet proto tcp from any to any port = smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port 8025 > [ Evaluations: 110124 Packets: 63 Bytes: 3516 States: 1 > ] > [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 73310 ] > > Where the first two entries never show any Packets and the third shows > everything. Does "no rdr" work differently than "rdr" with the statistics? > I understood from the Book of PF that the rules were evaluated such that > the last matching rule is used. Hence I think that with the above conf file > the spamd-white-local table would never get used as the connection will > match one of the 2 following rules. > > So I ran another test by putting the first rule last: > > no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port smtp > rdr pass inet proto tcp from any to any port smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port spamd > no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port smtp > > Now entries in are ignored and, the statistics are > quite different: > > no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port = smtp > [ Evaluations: 79 Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 States: 0 > ] > [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 86983 ] > rdr pass inet proto tcp from any to any port = smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port 8025 > [ Evaluations: 52 Packets: 25 Bytes: 1395 States: 1 > ] > [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 86983 ] > no rdr inet proto tcp from to any port = smtp > [ Evaluations: 0 Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 States: 0 > ] > [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 86983 ] > > > Now the last rule says its never evaluated. This indicates that its the > first rule that matches that is used rather than the last. However, why are > there never any packets counted in the "no rdr" rules? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Do you have a "pass in proto tcp to port smpt" or some such rule that is capturing the rest of the packets/accounting stats? I believe the "pass" in the second test (rdr pass inet proto tcp from any to any port = smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port 8025) is short circuiting your assumed "last match wins". The full pf.conf would be helpful From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 07:38:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402CD1065670 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5308FC08 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gate.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.123] helo=h30.sp.ipt.ru) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NJMYI-0002UE-VH; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:38:07 +0300 To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <4B21A487.5010200@rawbw.com> <4B21EA4A.40306@infracaninophile.co.uk> <54060791@bb.ipt.ru> <4B229EDB.3090702@rawbw.com> <96932353@bb.ipt.ru> <4B22D2FF.8070908@rawbw.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:38:06 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4B22D2FF.8070908@rawbw.com> (yuri@rawbw.com's message of "Fri\, 11 Dec 2009 15\:17\:19 -0800") Message-ID: <66526113@h30.sp.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:38:09 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:17:19 -0800 Yuri wrote: > Now I found who creates /compat/linux/home. It's skype. After I delete > /compat/linux/home and relaunch skype it recreates it. That's possible only if you are root. That's the most essential info. Please, annouce it everytime you have any error at the very beginning of an e-mail with capital letters. Never work as root. Never-never work as root under X. -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 07:58:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB671065670 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D178FC0A for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-24-6-221-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.221.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBC7w7ES030493; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:58:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B234D0D.6040101@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:58:05 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <4B21A487.5010200@rawbw.com> <4B21EA4A.40306@infracaninophile.co.uk> <54060791@bb.ipt.ru> <4B229EDB.3090702@rawbw.com> <96932353@bb.ipt.ru> <4B22D2FF.8070908@rawbw.com> <66526113@h30.sp.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <66526113@h30.sp.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:58:07 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > That's possible only if you are root. That's the most essential info. > Please, annouce it everytime you have any error at the very beginning > of an e-mail with capital letters. > > Never work as root. Never-never work as root under X. > I don't work as root. /compat/linux diectory is owned by my user, not root, not sure why. This is a very, very old system. Upgraded many times. That's how /compat/linux/home could get created. I can't understand why skype would create it instead of using /home. I guess that's a side effect of /compat/linux not being owned by root. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 08:08:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D260106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E888FC27 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gate.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.123] helo=h30.sp.ipt.ru) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NJN23-0002qK-Ge; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:08:51 +0300 To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <4B21A2C0.3020503@rawbw.com> <4ad871310912101742p30328b47id282e7fa2285f2b7@mail.gmail.com> <4B21A487.5010200@rawbw.com> <4B21EA4A.40306@infracaninophile.co.uk> <54060791@bb.ipt.ru> <4B229EDB.3090702@rawbw.com> <96932353@bb.ipt.ru> <4B22D2FF.8070908@rawbw.com> <66526113@h30.sp.ipt.ru> <4B234D0D.6040101@rawbw.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:08:51 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4B234D0D.6040101@rawbw.com> (yuri@rawbw.com's message of "Fri\, 11 Dec 2009 23\:58\:05 -0800") Message-ID: <00444268@h30.sp.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: googleearth complains about file instance-running-lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:08:53 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:58:05 -0800 Yuri wrote: > I guess that's a side effect of /compat/linux not being owned by root. Yes, you've found the root of the problem. Chown it to root:wheel and all should be fine. -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 08:10:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34561065670 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957E18FC1B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBC89qmU007587 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:09:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:09:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:09:52 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091212080949.GA2606@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, SUBJECT_NEEDS_ENCODING autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: lynx failure.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:10:03 -0000 Guys, this is what I see both here on my desktop, and on a remote server, magnesium.net. Using lynx: Looking up www.thought.org Unable to locate remote host www.thought.org. Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. lynx: Can't access startfile http://www.thought.org/ p6 0:03 [3] Obviously, something is wrong with how my new DBS, mAil, and web server, ethic, is configurated. Can anybody help me here? thans, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 08:55:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694B2106566C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE028FC12 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NJNkr-0007xg-Hg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:55:09 +0100 Received: from pool-68-239-72-201.res.east.verizon.net ([68.239.72.201]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:55:09 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-68-239-72-201.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:55:09 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:54:35 -0500 Lines: 94 Message-ID: References: <20091212080949.GA2606@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-68-239-72-201.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/4.3.4 Sender: news Subject: Re: lynx failure.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:55:12 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, this is what I see both here on my desktop, and on a > remote server, magnesium.net. Using lynx: > > > Looking up www.thought.org > Unable to locate remote host www.thought.org. > Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. > > lynx: Can't access startfile http://www.thought.org/ > p6 0:03 > [3] > > > Obviously, something is wrong with how my new DBS, mAil, and > web server, ethic, is configurated. Can anybody help me here? > A Dig output from my location: Your DNS is somewhat screwed up. ; <<>> DiG 9.6.1-P1 <<>> www.thought.org ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 21126 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.thought.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.thought.org. 38299 IN CNAME aristotle.thought.org. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: thought.org. 10700 IN SOA ethic.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2009120801 10800 3600 604800 38400 ;; Query time: 1 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.10.1#53(192.168.10.1) ;; WHEN: Sat Dec 12 03:32:48 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 110 I'm certainly no DNS expert. I also have no clue as to how you are configuring your DNS. So any comments will be along the lines of text editing zone files for BIND. Here is an example of a zone file for my internal LAN (a public zone will have different information, but the structure should be similar enough for example purposes. -------------------------------------------------------------------- $TTL 3600 test.zip. IN SOA server.test.zip. testuser@test.zip. ( 20090614; Serial 10800 ; Refresh 3600 ; Retry 604800 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Minimum ;DNS Servers IN NS server.test.zip. ;MX Records IN MX 1 server.test.zip. ;Hosts server IN A 192.168.10.1 workstation IN A 192.168.10.2 testbed IN A 192.168.10.3 ;nicknames static IN A 192.168.10.3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Notice the SOA starts with the domain, here it would be thought.org. See the "test.zip." in the above? Period included. Try and use an "A" record instead of CNAME. In any case, you will need an "A" record which contains the IP address of your server. In the Dig above there is nothing to indicate any IP address for the hostname you are trying to resolve. This is just a quickie to get you looking in maybe the right direction; there are others on the list who have much more smarts about DNS than myself. I'm just around at odd hours, so take a look and wait a bit for the smarter people. Also remember when you make changes update the Serial number so zone transfers will propagate, and remember the TTL, refresh, retry, etc parameters will mean any change will take time to propagate. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 09:01:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3113C1065672 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14178FC16 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02988EB47B1; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:01:53 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA09E452FB; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:01:52 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I5ooKgGUWuR9; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:01:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-213-243.home.otenet.gr [94.64.213.243]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2815451B2; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:01:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBC91pow089830 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:01:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBC91maS089827; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:01:48 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline References: <20091212080949.GA2606@thought.org> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:01:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20091212080949.GA2606@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:09:52 -0800") Message-ID: <87fx7ga7lw.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: lynx failure.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:01:54 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:09:52 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, this is what I see both here on my desktop, and on a remote > server, magnesium.net. Using lynx: > > Looking up www.thought.org > Unable to locate remote host www.thought.org. > Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. > > lynx: Can't access startfile http://www.thought.org/ > p6 0:03 > > Obviously, something is wrong with how my new DBS, mAil, and web > server, ethic, is configurated. Can anybody help me here? Are you sure DNS for the "thought.org" domain works? keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ host www.thought.org Host www.thought.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 10:29:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FABB1065672; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B978FC0C; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.70 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NJPDi-000GZx-PN; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:29:02 +0000 Received: from rmac.local.psg.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rmac.psg.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329ED2C9F882; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:29:02 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:29:01 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: $witch In-Reply-To: References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:29:05 -0000 > but i look in syslogs of some FreeBSD internet server and there is a great > evidence that some "botnets" are (again) tryng simple combination of > uid/pwd. /usr/ports/security/sshguard-* randy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 10:48:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6897E106566C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3759C8FC12 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi12 with SMTP id 12so350834pxi.3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:48:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QcuGBEKfNwDiDPgnrBY8rITSioiCyMsmKP+QDk9KL5Y=; b=PpdH5Px6+7/ctnSX6xh4xNFIwRJdjTGsqPpulWla8O4nIWIfy+qhaRAuFSX45MT6Em vUI3evbbnP6ggdxUm7KLkIwNK5+1Dgihr+psX62/2F6UwwwsCxO+mDg1+k3mfMlKUrPh KF6cjD/57TR5CtCXeZf6eSx1O99RL2dVUQyYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=TJQyBl9cGhItcSfzTEtAG9wWVoinMFXmJq9fCmMQ3mRiGrFeDoa83GaIChoVpvpfTK N8ZvnnOSUGlxGTnVv37qP6gU5O9Isci1NG/08Yv72dZXkyAWetPuh9Afjl15j4tPlN4c 2h/BsvDiBPRDnp8VhwweCawEZRSuGKiBiqAO4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.143.129.7 with SMTP id g7mr1493747wfn.241.1260614926450; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:48:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091210203143.H12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20091128113000.BBDF410656E6@hub.freebsd.org> <20091205212857.H34611@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091210203143.H12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:48:46 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ac61ef952e18d299 Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "Derek \(freebsd lists\)" <482254ac@razorfever.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick fixit - No USB devices found! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:48:48 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Randi Harper wrote: > =A0> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Ian Smith wro= te: > =A0> > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 286, Issue 12, Message 7 > =A0> > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:51:50 -0800 Randi Harper wrote: > =A0> > =A0> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Derek (freebsd lists) <48225= 4ac@razorfever.net> wrote: > [..] > =A0> > I made the memstick.img by dd as per the release page on my Thinkp= ad > =A0> > T23. =A0It only sports USB 1.0 ports, and while I was confident of= the dd > =A0> > (which took ~25m at ~600kB/s), I didn't really expect a 2002 lapto= p to > =A0> > boot from the image, but on seeing the USB stick show up in its BI= OS and > =A0> > promoting it in the disk boot order, it did! =A0Never underestimat= e IBM .. > [..] > =A0> > So .. booted into sysinstall, fdisk and label ad0s4, leave boot0 a= s was, > =A0> > committed that much after two earlier attempts failed due to the b= elow, > =A0> > quit to reboot, checked the labelling, redid the mount points, all= ok. > =A0> > > =A0> > Picked pretty much all distributions from custom install, then of = course > =A0> > had to select media. =A0Picked USB - and got about what Derek did,= no USB > =A0> > disk found. > =A0> > > =A0> > Very long story short: googled for ages and found a forum thread a= bout > =A0> > this very problem, in which someone suggested Options / Rescan Dev= ices > =A0> > then trying again. =A0The OP there said it didn't work for him, bu= t it > =A0> > sure did for me! =A0After knowing that, the install went pretty sm= oothly, > =A0> > modulo not getting fc-10 to install by FTP, but that's another iss= ue.. > =A0> > > =A0> > And just now, prompted by this thread I tried selecting Fixit, to = again > =A0> > get what Derek did. =A0And again, Options / Rescan Devices fixed i= t for > =A0> > me. =A0Maybe it will for Derek and/or maybe provide another clue? = =A0Maybe > =A0> > sysinstall could try a device rescan itself in that circumstance? > =A0> > =A0> This is a known issue. It would be possible to write in a hack to fi= x > =A0> this problem that would be fairly quick to implement, but sysinstall > =A0> already has one too many bandaids in place. I'd rather take a little > =A0> bit of extra time and fix the underlying problem, especially since > =A0> there is this workaround (forcing a device rescan) that seems to wor= k > =A0> for users in the meanwhile. > > At best it's an 'unknown known' :) =A0Except for this present thread, my > 'googling for ages' found nothing in FreeBSD lists about it. =A0I was so > close to giving up until I could go somewhere to burn a DVD, by then. > > I appreciate your disinclination to extend that message in sysinstall, > it's been "about to die" for so long it's no longer funny, still it > would have saved me half a day, and I'm sure I won't be the last person > to run into this. =A0I guess I should file a PR with a patch .. If you want to supply a patch that changes the error message in not finding a valid USB device, go for it. I'll push it through. One of the ideas I've been kicking around is consolidating some of the menu options and having sysinstall look for valid media on all removable devices (USB/CDROM/floppy), with the option to manually set it still available in the Options menu. I'm curious to see what other people think of this first, though. It does "dumb down" the install, but it still gives advanced users the option of specifying media. If you want to chuckle, take a look at sysinstall's devices.c and how it defines a valid USB device (hint: think DD). :) > > =A0> sysinstall was written back in the good 'ol days of pre-devfs and > =A0> hasn't been updated much since. When it first runs, it does a device > =A0> scan - that is, there's this really ugly data structure of all > =A0> possible devices and a description/limit for each. So, just for > =A0> example (and I'm not checking the code, so this value is probably > =A0> wrong), say there's an entry for 'fxp' that is a type network with a > =A0> limit of 16 devices - it's going to poke the system looking for fxp0= , > =A0> fxp1, ..., fxp15. It's doing this for every single network card, all > =A0> possible disk devices, everything. Back in the day when computers we= re > =A0> slower, this process could take a while, so it only happened once > =A0> unless the user selected it again. > > But now, a rescan on my T23 was quite fast, and it's only a P3 1133MHz. I wish we could just disregard all the limitations of older hardware (this would make life so much easier!), but the fact remains that there are people that still install freebsd on ridiculously old computers. The smallest group tends to be the most vocal, or so I've found. > > =A0> Needless to say, this is extremely inefficient (sysinstall code has = to > =A0> be changed any time a new driver is added, too!) and there's a lot o= f > =A0> better ways to do this. It's very easy to pull a list of network > =A0> cards, disks, etc, but the work in moving away from that ugly data > =A0> structure is no small job. Right now, much of my time is being taken > =A0> up in trying to get gpt support into sysinstall, but getting rid of > =A0> that data structure is high in my priority list, especially since > =A0> there's a workaround. Old/cheap USB flash sticks seem to be the main > =A0> offender, as they are slow to be recognized/probed, and sysinstall h= as > =A0> already finished it's device scan by then. > > Point taken, but an unknown workaround is no use to the newbie installer > (see my prior whinge to Manolis re the X installation menu going away) I'm unfamiliar with this Manolis person, although I think I poked through that thread and considered responding but I wanted to research it a bit more first. I'm getting back from a week-long vacation, and my sysinstall tagged unread email is... a longer list than I expected. eek. > > Yes, I was using an older 1GB Shintaro stick, the only one on hand, on a > machine using USB 1.0 only, but I doubt I'll be the only one; sysinstall > has always striven to work with other than just top-range newer kit. =A0I > do know how hard it is for developers to remember what mortals don't > know, or to imagine why folks might not be running more recent gear :) I barely pass as a developer, as I'm a sysadmin by trade. Even so, it's hard to keep in mind all older hardware limitations. Getting rid of that ugly device scan option will be quite a large patch, but it will eliminate at least this one problem. > > =A0> > While I'm at it .. selecting 'Holographic Shell', while in that st= ate at > =A0> > least, brings up a shell that (perhaps due to stick not being moun= ted?) > =A0> > has no ls command, making navigation difficult :) =A0pwd works, se= t works, > =A0> > but no ls. =A0Later (from debug msgs on vty1) I saw that I'd been = perhaps > =A0> > in /stand and only much later found that find worked and served as= ls .. > =A0> > =A0> This is normal. That's running off of the memory disk. echo * also > =A0> works to list files. The memory disk needs to stay fairly small in > =A0> size, so it has only a few programs, mostly stuff that is used by > =A0> sysinstall. > > echo *, now why didn't I think of that :) Be glad. You've probably never had to deal with remotely upgrading an older version of linux and the resulting library madness that ended up with a broken everything. :) > > Yeah, I spent a few hours today browsing the src/release stuff. =A0The > annotated Makefile alone is a potted history of FreeBSD, and seeing the > strange mix of floppies through CDs to DVD is interesting, especially > when the old so constrains the new with perhaps excessive minimalism. > > =A0> > One more thing, while I remember .. seeing the USB stick is here a= d0a, > =A0> > isn't that the old 'dangerously dedicated mode' now dropped from 8= .0? > =A0> > =A0> Well... yes. But this works. DD mode still works sometimes, but it's > =A0> easier to say "not supported" than "only in these circumstances". > =A0> FWIW, I don't expect DD mode to be gone forever. There were changes > =A0> made outside of sysinstall that aren't compatible with the way that > =A0> sysinstall (specifically, libdisk) did things. I think. It's > =A0> complicated, not something I'm entirely sure about, and =A0I > =A0> unfortunately can't do anything about other than moving away from > =A0> libdisk to libgeom. But this won't fix prior installations. I'm hopi= ng > =A0> that those working on geom can come up with a solution for existing = DD > =A0> installs. > > Fair enough, it's a big shift. =A0I appreciate your detailed explanations= . Sorry I couldn't do better. > > =A0> > And to be a real pest with questions, where in CVS do I find the s= cript > =A0> > or whatever makes memstick.img in the first place? > =A0> > =A0> It's part of the make release process. You really don't want to touc= h > =A0> that. I don't even want to touch that. When I'm testing out > =A0> sysinstall, I take an existing memstick and modify it as opposed to > =A0> building an entirely new one. > > I don't want to touch that, not at least till (if ever) I know exactly > what's going on there - but I do want to know how such images are made. > > Can you share what arguments to make release are used, or what other > steps are needed to duplicate it? =A0I'm wondering about a 4GB image say, > but perhaps this would be a question better posed in -stable? I'm not sure. I think I saw some magic at some point, but it was a long time ago, and I can't recall where I saw it - or maybe I forgot it on purpose. Try -stable, see if you get any good answers. If not, ping me and I'll see what I can dig up. -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 11:40:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E361065692 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f228.google.com (mail-fx0-f228.google.com [209.85.220.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F52A8FC17 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm28 with SMTP id 28so138980fxm.13 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:40:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=o7tpflj+afqXhtXckasC9RXP5mj0ZvC29JZ7UVDwJDQ=; b=Tb6cd385YnQmmyoH/JbHj02sz2XwlG6UOX0MXchXYS+3q2nK3XkNYke+fvwvQW+u6i ozOVskIoMxIjeGNjMfhsVsDxrok1OTiuP+5eX4Ua7li9PnhqIPLfAJ9lSuD6KqUZqDP/ kYG/PyPIFjoZF+5XU2qzxLqkkKyLBnecrpx20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=usRAOwKnkne5VGdfNvi7s5B6MEEVfLy2bAeN/AMxevT94gnm8YhKD43gVyX5Q44MET Xb8+VHtCswRE+LipZ2dHzRckbIBULlI6XkbrDb3eCOxRL2SuFG1OcXVL6tAIDH4NsQ+r UPBwuZbsu57d/WT6pdnt9PZlEE6PoQFOPxP94= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.164.75 with SMTP id d11mr2883845fay.17.1260618053149; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:40:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091212040344.GA1939@thought.org> References: <20091212040344.GA1939@thought.org> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:40:53 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912120340x16b64691o3802510dfaf715c2@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: "unable to connect to host".... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:40:54 -0000 Hi Gary On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Regarding the sage of the migration to a new server, I tho= ught > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0things were working when I went to bed. =A0Turns out this = was > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0only because I had the old server going too. =A0(I did som= e edit > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0on my new web server but the chances didn't show up. =A0On= ly the > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0old server was replying.) > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Now, using lynx, I get the err that it 'Can't connect to > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0host'. =A0 =A0The new server is 10.47.0.230, but dig is st= ill > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0seeing my old server, 10.47.0.240. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Any ideas why lynx cannot connect outside the server itsel= f?? Have a look in /etc/hosts (and /etc/resolv.conf to be save) for explicit entries. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 14:25:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0256C1065672 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from macerl@telkomsa.net) Received: from rrba-ip-smtp-2-2.saix.net (rrba-ip-smtp-2-2.saix.net [196.25.240.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96ACB8FC18 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dilbert.localnet (dsl-242-84-47.telkomadsl.co.za [41.242.84.47]) by rrba-ip-smtp-2-2.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38208E8C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:25:23 +0200 (SAST) From: Richard Mace To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:18:37 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.2 (Linux/2.6.30-2-amd64; KDE/4.3.2; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912121618.37938.macerl@telkomsa.net> Subject: How to build VLC port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:25:27 -0000 Sorry if this is well-known. I have googled but came up with nothing. (I am relatively new to FreeBSD.) I am running 8.0-RELEASE. I am trying to build VLC with # cd /usr/ports # make install clean But I get the message: ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac. *** Error code 1 I tried a # make config but cannot find out how to turn off the dirac depends (is it possible?). Thanks for any pointers. -Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 14:54:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608DB1065670 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9798FC17 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D5E5E33E; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:54:49 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.397, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id gDiMAVlbEzdL; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:54:44 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E665D5E2AF; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:54:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B23AEB3.3060808@eskk.nu> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:54:43 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091208) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B22553A.9010003@eskk.nu> <20091211181304.2c710d8e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091211181304.2c710d8e.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pieter@degoeje.nl, herbert.raimund@gmx.net, Polytropon Subject: Re: A question about yell on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:54:51 -0000 Polytropon skrev: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:20:42 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> I have sound working but PC-speaker doesn't seem to be present. > > Do you have "device SPEAKER" in your kernel config, > or have you loaded the appropriate kernel module? > > You can alway check it with something like > > # echo "cdefg" > /dev/speaker > > Thanks for your answers. Yes, I do have the /boot/loader.conf speaker_load="YES" That's what troubles me, I'm used to use Yell so I'm certain that my config is ok. One thing I've been made aware of is that a laptop computer maybe do not have a "speaker". Only a sound card will produce sound in the speakers. Any comments on that? /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 14:57:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647A0106566C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from macerl@telkomsa.net) Received: from rrba-ip-smtp-2-4.saix.net (rrba-ip-smtp-2-4.saix.net [196.25.240.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A088FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dilbert.localnet (dsl-242-84-47.telkomadsl.co.za [41.242.84.47]) by rrba-ip-smtp-2-4.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268A91037 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:57:14 +0200 (SAST) Resent-From: Richard Mace Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:50:29 +0200 Resent-Message-ID: <200912121650.29193.macerl@telkomsa.net> From: Richard Mace To: Bernt Hansson Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:48:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.2 (Linux/2.6.30-2-amd64; KDE/4.3.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <200912121618.37938.macerl@telkomsa.net> <4B23AD62.8050008@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <4B23AD62.8050008@bah.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912121648.06629.macerl@telkomsa.net> Cc: Subject: Re: How to build VLC port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:57:17 -0000 > > Sorry if this is well-known. I have googled but came up with nothing. (I > > am relatively new to FreeBSD.) > > > > I am running 8.0-RELEASE. I am trying to build VLC with > > > > # cd /usr/ports > > You mean ../multimedia/vlc ? Yes, indeed. Sorry. > > # make install clean > > I'm building it now. > > > But I get the message: > > > > ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > I tried a > > > > # make config > > Try make rmconfig Thanks. I tried this (make rmconfig) and still got the same error: ========================================== toutatis# make install clean ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc. ========================================== Any other ideas? -Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 15:28:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2271065670 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:28:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8908FC17 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so2119125ewy.3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:28:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2khcp8B/oZyxRFvCBB4Ehs/Fz1vGZt6iAr5MHuju9KA=; b=Umh5d1jv6/ImUo7tvjoRnkQo2BOnZep+O6qK7tNgkuw1UzWikpbqExJiJTT/c45ewT gbkAFgONnDYpQIcW+pJF+gOeWH1SdM4fRsTPiOxTxcktgLz8O8KIdbNJqh5CE2oP2znd F9VNkpmA/sNRP+EiMfo0HLM06FrGxscLBbYGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SqptvGWE8Vzn2OYYydCMO88HjWx+etCICWTsA04aDHl1gm5mk30gE1tHPuOVEg+vTe lf9LR17S/N2ZzgMiKHQl5Y1SUe7For9ewOSzJiK/nAwO0XN/tX4ATTAtSzCLqw5zs2p9 rqX5HNI039XHhZ7yJjaU3g85r94u/XBzi/LBo= Received: by 10.216.87.136 with SMTP id y8mr1060355wee.43.1260631699054; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j8sm10298596gvb.17.2009.12.12.07.28.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:28:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:28:15 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091212152815.328f5574@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4B23AD62.8050008@bah.homeip.net> References: <200912121618.37938.macerl@telkomsa.net> <4B23AD62.8050008@bah.homeip.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.4; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to build VLC port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:28:20 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:49:06 +0100 Bernt Hansson wrote: > Richard Mace: > > ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > I tried a > > > > # make config > > Try make rmconfig You also need to remove the dirac package if it's already installed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 15:36:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36369106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02908FC12 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBCFadRf015687; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:36:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBCFadTO015684; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:36:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:36:39 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Richard Mace In-Reply-To: <200912121618.37938.macerl@telkomsa.net> Message-ID: References: <200912121618.37938.macerl@telkomsa.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:36:39 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to build VLC port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:36:41 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Richard Mace wrote: > Sorry if this is well-known. I have googled but came up with nothing. (I am > relatively new to FreeBSD.) > > I am running 8.0-RELEASE. I am trying to build VLC with > > # cd /usr/ports > # make install clean > > But I get the message: > > ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac. > *** Error code 1 > > I tried a > > # make config > > but cannot find out how to turn off the dirac depends (is it possible?). The multimedia/vlc Makefile automatically enables dirac use if libdirac_decoder.a is already installed. You can override that, but not through the menu options: make -DWITHOUT_DIRAC install clean Or you can uninstall the multimedia/dirac port (if nothing is using it) before installing vlc. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 15:42:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34CF106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from macerl@telkomsa.net) Received: from rrba-ip-smtp-2-1.saix.net (rrba-ip-smtp-2-1.saix.net [196.25.240.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708DB8FC23 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dilbert.localnet (dsl-242-84-47.telkomadsl.co.za [41.242.84.47]) by rrba-ip-smtp-2-1.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC8331D7; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:41:59 +0200 (SAST) From: Richard Mace To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:35:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.2 (Linux/2.6.30-2-amd64; KDE/4.3.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <200912121618.37938.macerl@telkomsa.net> <4B23AD62.8050008@bah.homeip.net> <20091212152815.328f5574@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20091212152815.328f5574@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912121735.13897.macerl@telkomsa.net> Cc: Subject: Re: How to build VLC port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:42:03 -0000 > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:49:06 +0100 > > Bernt Hansson wrote: > > Richard Mace: > > > ===> vlc-1.0.3_4,3 is marked as broken: doesn't build with dirac. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > I tried a > > > > > > # make config > > > > Try make rmconfig > > You also need to remove the dirac package if it's already installed. Thanks for the hint. Actually, you don't need such a drastic measure, it seems. I looked into the Makefile and found: .if (defined(WITH_DIRAC) || exists(${LOCALBASE}/lib/libdirac_decoder.a)) && !defined(WITHOUT_DIRAC) BROKEN= doesn't build with dirac I did a # make -DWITHOUT_DIRAC and it seems to be building. As I type this I see confirmation of the solution above from Warren Block (Thanks!) -Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 16:23:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DCF106568F for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40338FC20 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666AB1E867; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:23:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBCGN4of001518; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:23:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:23:04 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Kurt Buff Message-Id: <20091212172304.d637d697.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <86tyvxlk68.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4B225077.3040009@stillbilde.net> <4297a9020912111153r1ec93838i12d1fd3aae5c61e@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:23:09 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:01:51 -0800, Kurt Buff wrote: > Well, yes, except this assumes one has access to the sysadmin... Physical access. It's hard to exploit a sysadmin by social engineering because he hardly has any friends. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 16:32:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D63F106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3988A8FC08 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE92C1E9BC; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:32:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBCGVx65001530; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:31:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:31:59 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Paul Schmehl Message-Id: <20091212173159.d36521fc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8E342D86408C0B77A05A484A@utd65257.utdallas.edu> References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310912110559w7a6fdce7s53359a6ceda64399@mail.gmail.com> <8E342D86408C0B77A05A484A@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , mpd Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:32:02 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:04:22 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Friday, December 11, 2009 07:59:00 -0600 Glen Barber > wrote: > > > > I suppose this falls under the "works for me" category - I haven't > > ever used HAL on FreeBSD. > > > > I have, and I would say that it's not quite ready for primetime. So I'm back > to manual configuration and happy about it. Paul, you're mentioning an important choice the developer of an OS or the distributor of a specific software compilation has to make: (a) No configuration (equals user configuration) This choice makes sure that the user can set all parameters to fit his particular needs. He isn't hindered to do so. (b) Pre-configuration With this choice, the one who set the defaults has a very high responsibility. In most cases, a certain target group is assumed, and so the parameters are defined. This may lead to the problem that the result doesn't fit in other settings. (c) Auto-configuration This often works, but involves a certain overhead that does the automatic detection. Furthermore, not everything gets detected correctly, or detected at all. The result can be an only partially configured system, even being unusable. This is the case especially with hardware that is not up to date, or just too new. Hardware that doesn't conform to existing and assumed standards leads to the same results. In the past, X was defaulting to (a), giving you the choice of (c) by command, and you could modify its result in case of errors. I would say this was the case with XFree86 and early X.org (when e. g. I could run my screen by xorg.conf at 1400x1050, now I need xrandr in .xinitrc to do so because X only allows 1152x864). Overall speed is another topic, of course. The FreeBSD OS, on the other hand, follows approach (a) and aids the user with (b) - the defaults are intendedly and wisely chosen, so they usually don't cause problems, because they don't assume something stupid, like "The user will want to have a web server included, and enabled by default." :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 16:37:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D75106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf01.insightbb.com (mxsf01.insightbb.com [74.128.0.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654658FC1C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:37:40 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAHpVI0vQLicL/2dsb2JhbACBS9I4hCsEgWKLQg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,388,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="783024186" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2009 11:37:39 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,388,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="538210" Received: from 208-46-39-11.dia.static.qwest.net (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([208.46.39.11]) by asavout00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2009 11:37:39 -0500 From: Steven Friedrich To: Jerry McAllister Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:37:37 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p5; KDE/4.3.4; i386; ; ) References: <200912111657.06299.freebsd@insightbb.com> <20091211215639.GA8100@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20091211215639.GA8100@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912121137.37736.freebsd@insightbb.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: startx and xinit under FreeBSD8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:37:40 -0000 On Friday 11 December 2009 04:56:39 pm you wrote: > Well, you now need to either select X during install or install > it from ports after the installation. > > ////jerry > I thought KDE4 would have caused a dependency on X, but I guess since there have been two choices, XFree and Xorg, you have to manually select one or the other. Thanks for the answer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 16:54:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2960106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920A78FC14 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19501ECBF; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:54:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBCGs64u001578; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:54:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:54:06 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20091212175406.39dbcb8e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:54:08 -0000 On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:06:01 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: > Normally, the user shouldn't have to create XML files. If they intended to use another than default english keyboard layout... well, creating the correspoinding XML file as shown in the handbook seemed to be the way to go. In the past, things were centralized in xorg.conf for all the options that would be interesting to the X server: Screen settings, fonts, mouse, keyboard. Now, those settings seem to be non-existent (autodetected) or scattered around into config files of different subsystems. Getting a three button mouse (with middle mouse for wheel functionality) would be an interesting task, too, awaiting my attention soon. :-) > The new hal-0.5.13_12 solves some serious problems I had with the > earlier version. Maybe problems other people had too, but there haven't > been any posts about someone trying HAL again and seeing if it works > better now. I'm confident that things like HAL and DBUS make the "plug and play" experience much better in the future, especially with the big desktop environments (KDE, Gnome, Xfce). Still, I'm a bit surprised that such functionalities have been present in times where HAL and DBUS didn't exist yet... but maybe due to the fact that more and more stuff is accessed via USB, and those USB devices often aren't interested in standards and specifications, the use of HAL and DBUS (and maybe others, such as CUPS) gets more and more unavoidable. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 16:54:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BE31065694 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB7E48FC29 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 55953 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2009 16:54:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1260636876; bh=dUr038qH3JiVYK0jjE5fd4MbKGm3f9M/TXBCmCH4zLo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3PlkEgJYFi/omRRaHErHdVxBlhUFeQUPPRFjH+umkXrvFdEX9sHuOLlNVduui1Qj4qZabrg5LCXCzij1F+0jBH5oyiCCWLWEoZeeDK1s4CooVCIAEWJ5CEwp1OqXkaR9OZytqzjCThMnO5KTdWL1zZIw5ZKCobvA3Esk15cV4fQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=joNAFxE+sX1M6rFatEsPLC61S7T8oBPNFs1Jhe9EBhTaqfGDxnCMKLTG1aG9pUjyJHuIpjFQ6g2rieSGuXOIvzBQEiM7CRnjRGNg9NqgK62K8NnV1Yew6a3b6R2VR//G3qEWQVeT4y/X86YCTWkLQcsIsCULrDdduvcRgM0daMQ=; Message-ID: <503306.54962.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: UmoIB9EVM1mFKSc5yCNgODto8yylHetBgCY9rPTIpzuEhuHR4C4o5Kz4l8BsQGqX2bvxJRDyBu6tG79oXXJhh.AMEWS5A3C9ccNda4mdqjy6E0IdCpFWqSPnbgqI.pPKwBp47umxTE1ZgKlv03XQ5dSfC1Go9MtEf_reQX9jLl3wHqObDdW4io2ZwijoXDrVzZiHhbjAhgHW5OjvUN4rF3ddAuZusX1I_sBRkWd1LDfxFqQh67enLnuKTdFmBIrmn_IDI4cjqN3P5gE9sm5krjI_KZUzgbkiPY00JanQ21nzHTHVrtvluKFxpB02pbhwOWE.k.H3dJiokE2trtRjCLDoQ7vFgY0Yu8Zq245UNFWqRya8QIzFJM.kvX.wVbGGlEJ93g2tZsA7dKnW3E4Ces7wGNfAme0N3DDS1h.fUAhpJgklQsAbM4mduY4e_Hbfuo_4Sg-- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:54:36 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:54:36 -0800 (PST) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091212104900.4587010656B6@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: ly4uk Root Subject: Re: disk with high frequency noise only on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:54:38 -0000 > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:52:50 +0200 > From: ly4uk Root > Subject: disk with high frequency noise only on FreeBSD > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <1260568370.99298.49.camel@localhost> > Content-Type: text/plain > cleaning), but drive is still squeaking. Now I'm using > freebsd 8.0, not > fresh install, got it from seven release (at almost year > ago) by > tracking stable branch. All noise came exactly in one > reboot while > upgrading to 8.0-RC2. > So, it would be interesting to get Your answer about > possible > solutions(if You know such) or maybe some comments(if > don't). I will be > very happy for that, many excuse for disturbance. > Now, this post is interesting. I'm sure many people with a software background may be tempted to write this report off as completely implausible. The truth is even "non-moving" parts such as inductors and possibly capacitors can move in response to an applied signal. For example, my ADSL modem with no moving parts makes an audible hissing noise louder than the (80mm) fan noise of my BSD server. I have no idea what would be causing this in 8.0-RC2, but I can suggest what to look for: anything polling the drive in the audible frequency range (20 to 20 thousand times per second). Another possiblity is any action the repeats at that rate, but was not present in ealier versions. The timer interrupt is in that range, but other systems like GNU/Linux (before the tickless kernel) and Windows use a similar timer. To the original poster: you say this is a laptop. How do you know the noise is coming from the hard drive and not some other component like the speakers/Network card/fan? Regards, James Phillips __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 17:25:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32151065694 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.com) Received: from mx1.webtent.net (mx1.webtent.net [208.38.145.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874798FC1B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Transport) with ESMTP id 0FC8184A7D for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02476-03 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (media.rfitz.com [72.64.244.53]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Transport) with ESMTP id 8EA7E84A41 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:05:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B23CD8A.50203@webtent.com> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:06:18 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.2a Subject: slow clock on FreeBSD 7.2 on vmware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:25:02 -0000 I found posts about this and a possible solution is to disable APIC by adding hint.apic.0.disabled=1 to /boot/loader.conf. But after doing so, it booted to the mountroot prompt and would not recognize my ufs:/dev/da0s1a partition when tried. I went to FixIt and removed the line from the loader.conf file and it boots fine. I do have some other things to help the pgsql db on this server in the loader.conf file, are they interfering? pgsql# cat /boot/loader.conf kern.ipc.semmni=32 kern.ipc.semmns=512 hint.apic.0.disabled=1 The only way I'm able to keep the clock up to date is to sync with an Internet time server regularly. Anyone have an idea how fix this issue? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 17:39:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A960106566C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED29B8FC14 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066453D0A4; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:39:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBCHdWew001684; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:39:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:39:32 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Leslie Jensen Message-Id: <20091212183932.4cad565f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4B23AEB3.3060808@eskk.nu> References: <4B22553A.9010003@eskk.nu> <20091211181304.2c710d8e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B23AEB3.3060808@eskk.nu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pieter@degoeje.nl, herbert.raimund@gmx.net, Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question about yell on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:39:35 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:54:43 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > That's what troubles me, I'm used to use Yell so I'm certain that my > config is ok. One thing I've been made aware of is that a laptop > computer maybe do not have a "speaker". Only a sound card will produce > sound in the speakers. Any comments on that? It's quite possible that your laptop doesn't have the "PC speaker functionality". Traditionally, the PC speaker was completely independant from any sound cards. It even was present when no sound card did exist. Early laptops also included such a speaker. More modern laptops then included a sound card and the speaker (three speakers internally), but quicky the PC speaker got removed, and access to its functionality is provided through the sound card, offering a kind of "PC speaker API". And maybe this "PC speaker API" isn't present on your laptop anymore. Does dmesg show any "speaker" lines, such as this? speaker0: port 0x61 on acpi0 And even if it is shown this way, it doesn't imply that the "PC speaker API" of the sound card is handling the corresponding calls. Finally, and maybe you've already checked it, what is the mixser setting for the PC speaker channel of the sound card, if it does exist? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 17:46:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57D41065697 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEC28FC24 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A273D4EB; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:46:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBCHk0wS001731; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:46:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:46:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Paul Schmehl Message-Id: <20091212184600.118587c9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310912110559w7a6fdce7s53359a6ceda64399@mail.gmail.com> <8E342D86408C0B77A05A484A@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20091212173159.d36521fc.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , mpd Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:46:04 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:24:29 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On December 12, 2009 10:31:59 AM -0600 Polytropon > wrote: > > > > The FreeBSD OS, on the other hand, follows approach (a) and > > aids the user with (b) - the defaults are intendedly and > > wisely chosen, so they usually don't cause problems, because > > they don't assume something stupid, like "The user will want > > to have a web server included, and enabled by default." :-) > > > > Or the user can't possibly maintain the server without a GUI > interface...... Oh yes, I just forgot that it's common corporate guideline to have the users maintain the server. :-) > I have FreeBSD servers that have 30 ports installed. My desktop has 714. > It should be up to me what runs on the box, not the manufacturer. But finally, that's what "average users" are expecting. I completely agree with you. Maybe it's some work needed to get exactly what you want, but finally, you GOT it, and without the need to install things you do not use, occupying disk space and needing your attention. This situation - being up to date, especially in regards of security - is very important on servers. > I don't > need a ton of cruft to run a single application that does some sort of > task for me. For such a situation - and if you really want it - PC-BSD is the right choice. Still it's FreeBSD "under the hood" that lets you solve problems and correct non-working things by yourself, instead of just claiming "that's not possible" or "not supported". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 17:46:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672431065695 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0F878FC0A for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21944 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2009 17:43:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.164.70) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 12 Dec 2009 17:43:06 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B54B81733A; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:46:50 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:46:50 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Steven Friedrich Message-ID: <20091212174650.GA3084@ozzmosis.com> References: <200912111657.06299.freebsd@insightbb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200912111657.06299.freebsd@insightbb.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: startx and xinit under FreeBSD8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:46:54 -0000 On Fri 2009-12-11 16:57:06 UTC-0500, Steven Friedrich (freebsd@insightbb.com) wrote: > I installed FreeBSD to another partition, so I could check it out. > I selected All sources and binaries and KDE4. > > When I tried startx, it complained that it didn't exist. > It's just a script, so I copied it over from my 7.2p5 partition. > Now it complains that xinit doesn't exist. > > Why didn't these two get laid-down by the install?? The dependencies for KDE4 probably don't go as far as requiring an X server. Some machines run headless and so don't require an X server (what startx runs) to be installed to run X apps. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 17:47:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28EB1065695 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7224D8FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450A13D559; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:47:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBCHluu4001738; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:47:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:47:56 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Steven Friedrich Message-Id: <20091212184756.858ed506.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200912121137.37736.freebsd@insightbb.com> References: <200912111657.06299.freebsd@insightbb.com> <20091211215639.GA8100@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200912121137.37736.freebsd@insightbb.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry McAllister , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: startx and xinit under FreeBSD8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:47:58 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:37:37 -0500, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I thought KDE4 would have caused a dependency on X, but I guess since there > have been two choices, XFree and Xorg, you have to manually select one or the > other. It is possible to run XFree86 - the X that "just works" (TM)? I'm not sure many programs will run on it, because the dependencies refer to xorg-stuff-1.2.3... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 17:48:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD4F1065744 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gx0-f218.google.com (mail-gx0-f218.google.com [209.85.217.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D336A8FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so1861503gxk.3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.165.11 with SMTP id s11mr4479061ano.4.1260640085117; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([187.78.131.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1292167yxd.53.2009.12.12.09.48.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:48:04 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:47:01 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/8.0-STABLE; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200912121447.01318.lobo@bsd.com.br> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: amdtemp problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:48:07 -0000 Hi to all; Up to amd64 8-RC3, amdtemp correctly reported the temperature of my phenom= =20 processor(s). =46rom 8-RELEASE on (i'm on STABLE now), the temperature readings starts at= 37C,=20 dropping to 0 in about 2 minutes, and there it stays.=20 I had saved the /usr/src/sys/dev/amdtemp/amdtemp.c file from the 8-RC3 file= =20 and compared it to the STABLE version, and they are the same, so I figured= =20 something changed elsewhere. Would anyone have a hint to where I should look into to make it work again? Thanks, =2D-=20 Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br =46reeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 17:48:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85F7106568B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmontalvo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A168FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi12 with SMTP id 12so482667pxi.3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:48:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ZYH/cBDZfKzMZvJ7emLFVF/VFO2c4bLdR2ZHPhOyy18=; b=RczcAuRpFt0IfTqEAH8lt7wE+3jx/1DT5TAEc3BI3GFWCs/S8aok9k2u3sAqBokvD3 qzZAV7cWcbdS9qXkKhPWyLite2NEoc+3SEu4NHTC8BJDKkqUiBRsMd3b1hJTonbYDHzc jzaC0gSuGBUwVn09iZCqCE3OANne67b9w2JLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HvNgd/qLWHJUHXmPq7ThIX1xXT3okafzpmhrWV6Evt06ne3qBSSjKqclApOpvgoqv7 eSORbzACGKw4XNToH11vmwWgAtBJa6q+NDZZVLx0Z4KRy6R8octTeecbhsZYOp6pwHdp 0TPFa/wy0h5K1SWfOJa+xPpr85IoD6zhLGy0Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.20.36 with SMTP id x36mr1739519wfi.231.1260640099991; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:48:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:48:19 -0800 Message-ID: From: Diego Montalvo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Reinstalling Video Driver in 8.0-RELEASE.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:48:20 -0000 I have successfully upgraded 7.1-RELEASE TO 8.0-RELEASE and have successfully installed XFCE and Opera etc on VirtualBox 3.0.x... The issue is that at time of FreeBSD installation, I forgot to set my (Virtualbox) video card with 3D acceleration and with a good amount of memory. I have re-adjusted the Virtualbox settings with 3D acceleration and 64MB of memory. XFCE is currently running at 800x600 resolution, but does not give me an option for any larger resolution. How do I go about reconfiguring my video card in FreeBSD 8.0, so I can run XFCE at 1280x720? Thanks for coming out! Diego From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 17:50:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215201065679 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A4D8FC19 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so1292574bwz.3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:50:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s78sI+Zk0uBMQktf+YOaKSGk6HdxTEynr+8nBM/XfKw=; b=bjaSbX4c8f4y8SzPbJwce1iRW0liTJC+6C4o4W+Tr95cmE++cbrdUWGZZVrKPfZSTJ pItPWJV/jlfxHHoIrPmn9lwrJjmxlt0Fzv1DJAYNiE5eNoycTL3ExN73/sZg+ZrMwuaE czbalYar0Ufv7GQlbi5ebWCqORrBjcVqmkP2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DNAPMPxHbX3BFJ0W6ByctrkBM0lWZ47v6x+8ccNTq7Zligtr6Mxgzrtv0FtIGZN4h3 aU8bdhxdSX1sn4+1IOH1M8pQhPOcf0dufp017tqmlUKenoDq2m7TO004dmsD4cmjNaqK 9i9kyh2KlRhiIoBU8ysJTVO3h7Pux7eul5TFY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.49.79 with SMTP id u15mr122282bkf.117.1260640212236; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:50:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091212174650.GA3084@ozzmosis.com> References: <200912111657.06299.freebsd@insightbb.com> <20091212174650.GA3084@ozzmosis.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:49:52 +0000 Message-ID: To: andrew clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steven Friedrich Subject: Re: startx and xinit under FreeBSD8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:50:14 -0000 2009/12/12 andrew clarke : > On Fri 2009-12-11 16:57:06 UTC-0500, Steven Friedrich (freebsd@insightbb.= com) wrote: > >> I installed FreeBSD to another partition, so I could check it out. >> I selected All sources and binaries and KDE4. >> >> When I tried startx, it complained that it didn't exist. >> It's just a script, so I copied it over from my 7.2p5 partition. >> Now it complains that xinit doesn't exist. >> >> Why didn't these two get laid-down by the install?? > > The dependencies for KDE4 probably don't go as far as requiring an X > server. =A0Some machines run headless and so don't require an X server > (what startx runs) to be installed to run X apps. Yeah, it'd be a _royal_ pain if KDE and GNOME depended on an X server. It'd defeat the whole client-server relationship! Sorry it's confusing for people who wouldn't use it like that.... Also, please don't use XFree86! It's defunct, and has an obnoxious licence. Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 17:54:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E8F1065670 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D108FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so1293975bwz.3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:54:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5X3tNT+5gsYuknZO0vT5CuiPI/iJD5jz/JTPUkzU40Q=; b=Se5IlivraZsMweGzGJUzs8VSJTqrL4FI6e1zPhwVl18Z4AuE4c04Dbfx5wV96hQUP0 /tjweI5d43dTG1jrTdT7HLsptVxT3A3tktZ+Qoe/4BVXi5lD2ikReAibb1ogMcZIPObz l78xu7IRi8d+9JXHMamOwsWzihJa5g761QyE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oNZA92i5bAQbo4lKFwfQeDMpkQfH5ESX9M4SkSDMK2ddpb14nOSl56+Hm86bs1bB0d N3NRDdbt/iwRETWk7EDSTvoChBw/zGBROhjNK9bs0T8r5zfR/p3668vSw5eDtjqhE7s4 4jpr21U5RLQNjco/MKKwN9YE9BeHGxww3ua3c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.14.82 with SMTP id f18mr1574949bka.204.1260640456124; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:54:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net> References: <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:53:56 +0000 Message-ID: To: Kevin Oberman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:54:18 -0000 2009/12/11 Kevin Oberman : >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +0000 >> From: Matthew Seaman >> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org >> >> Polytropon wrote: >> > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: >> >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed >> >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't coun= t >> >> dragonflyBSD) >> > >> > VMS would be #0, then? :-) >> >> I dunno. =A0Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... > > I'm sure that there are systems happily running MSDOS, but I bet not too > many are networked. > > I know that there is still a lot of VMS out there and that it has > remained a cash cow for HP. It lived on primarily in the banking and > financial sector, though I guess the use is dropping since HP recently > outsourced support to India and that lead to the retirement of the last > of the original VMS developers, Andy Goldstein. > > Also, the the end of TECO as Andy was responsible for porting it to > almost every platform DEC ever sold (RSX, RSTS, VMS, TOPS-10 and > TOPS-20, RT-11, and several others) and continued to maintain it until > his retirement. (Most readers of this list probably don't even remember > TECO.) > > And, for may years VMS had major network security problems, especially > the infamous default DECNET/DECNET account that lead to may compromises > and the second major network worm, Worms Against Nuclear Killers. (I > won't use the acronym so as not to offend our British readers. I found > out about that when the BBC interviewed me about it and I was told that > I could not utter the word.) Wow, I didn't know your side don't use that word... I thought I knew about all the stereotypically British ones! Do you guys have any curses or insults at all??? Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 17:59:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EE2106566C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E06B78FC15 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22174 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2009 17:56:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.164.70) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 12 Dec 2009 17:56:05 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6F8C6173B4; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:59:49 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:59:49 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Robert Fitzpatrick Message-ID: <20091212175949.GB3084@ozzmosis.com> References: <4B23CD8A.50203@webtent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B23CD8A.50203@webtent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: slow clock on FreeBSD 7.2 on vmware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:59:52 -0000 On Sat 2009-12-12 12:06:18 UTC-0500, Robert Fitzpatrick (robert@webtent.com) wrote: > pgsql# cat /boot/loader.conf > kern.ipc.semmni=32 > kern.ipc.semmns=512 > hint.apic.0.disabled=1 According to the loader.conf man page these should all be in the format: kern.ipc.semmni="32" kern.ipc.semmns="512" hint.apic.0.disabled="1" I don't know if this matters. I'm not sure hint.apic.0.disabled is valid for 7.2. sysctl -a doesn't list this variable on my machine. Maybe it's only available on some machines. > The only way I'm able to keep the clock up to date is to sync with > an Internet time server regularly. Anyone have an idea how fix this > issue? Can you use ntpd? Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 18:05:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBD41065672 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C668FC14 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.52]) by cdptpa-qmta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091212172531892.NLIA2318@cdptpa-qmta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:25:31 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PIkuB1Azio0A:10 a=tC9jyREGAabDcMw2_M4A:9 a=5MixE5MN308nSQoM6mwA:7 a=wbVcysVy-kWFpVzUfAuzXKf7jDkA:4 a=jKRid43F7UoA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.184.157.127 Received: from [76.184.157.127] ([76.184.157.127:52866] helo=[10.0.0.43]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id CD/E0-01458-DC1D32B4; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:24:30 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:24:29 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Polytropon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20091212173159.d36521fc.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20091211025508.GA4357@jesters-court.net> <4ad871310912101919j6876f01cp3bd24629ca089fc5@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310912110559w7a6fdce7s53359a6ceda64399@mail.gmail.com> <8E342D86408C0B77A05A484A@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20091212173159.d36521fc.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , mpd Subject: Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:05:42 -0000 --On December 12, 2009 10:31:59 AM -0600 Polytropon wrote: > > The FreeBSD OS, on the other hand, follows approach (a) and > aids the user with (b) - the defaults are intendedly and > wisely chosen, so they usually don't cause problems, because > they don't assume something stupid, like "The user will want > to have a web server included, and enabled by default." :-) > Or the user can't possibly maintain the server without a GUI interface...... I have FreeBSD servers that have 30 ports installed. My desktop has 714. It should be up to me what runs on the box, not the manufacturer. I don't need a ton of cruft to run a single application that does some sort of task for me. Even the webservers I maintain have less than 60 ports installed. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 18:18:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2358106568D for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from mx1.webtent.net (mx1.webtent.net [208.38.145.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50408FC22 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Transport) with ESMTP id 934F884A94; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:18:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07051-01; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:18:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (media.rfitz.com [72.64.244.53]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Transport) with ESMTP id 1D6A384A88; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:18:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B23DE63.8000608@webtent.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:18:11 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Khitrov , FreeBSD References: <4B23CD8A.50203@webtent.com> <26ddd1750912120930m7b02182ma0ace3e4977643a0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750912120930m7b02182ma0ace3e4977643a0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.2a Cc: Subject: Re: slow clock on FreeBSD 7.2 on vmware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:18:15 -0000 On 12/12/2009 12:30 PM, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> I found posts about this and a possible solution is to disable APIC by >> adding hint.apic.0.disabled=1 to /boot/loader.conf. But after doing so, it >> booted to the mountroot prompt and would not recognize my ufs:/dev/da0s1a >> partition when tried. I went to FixIt and removed the line from the >> loader.conf file and it boots fine. I do have some other things to help the >> pgsql db on this server in the loader.conf file, are they interfering? >> >> pgsql# cat /boot/loader.conf >> kern.ipc.semmni=32 >> kern.ipc.semmns=512 >> hint.apic.0.disabled=1 >> > Add kern.hz="100" to loader.conf. > > - Max > Thanks for the suggestion, but i added to the loader.conf file, but the kernel would not even load then, let alone getting to any prompt including mountroot :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 18:20:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DAC1065692 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from mx1.webtent.net (mx1.webtent.net [208.38.145.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B36B8FC16 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Transport) with ESMTP id 8962684A8B; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06932-02; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (media.rfitz.com [72.64.244.53]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Transport) with ESMTP id 1BBB584A89; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:20:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B23DED5.3010308@webtent.net> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:20:05 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andrew clarke , FreeBSD References: <4B23CD8A.50203@webtent.com> <20091212175949.GB3084@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20091212175949.GB3084@ozzmosis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.2a Cc: Subject: Re: slow clock on FreeBSD 7.2 on vmware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:20:08 -0000 On 12/12/2009 12:59 PM, andrew clarke wrote: > On Sat 2009-12-12 12:06:18 UTC-0500, Robert Fitzpatrick (robert@webtent.com) wrote: > > >> pgsql# cat /boot/loader.conf >> kern.ipc.semmni=32 >> kern.ipc.semmns=512 >> hint.apic.0.disabled=1 >> > According to the loader.conf man page these should all be in the format: > > kern.ipc.semmni="32" > kern.ipc.semmns="512" > hint.apic.0.disabled="1" > > I don't know if this matters. > > I'm not sure hint.apic.0.disabled is valid for 7.2. sysctl -a doesn't > list this variable on my machine. Maybe it's only available on some > machines. > > >> The only way I'm able to keep the clock up to date is to sync with >> an Internet time server regularly. Anyone have an idea how fix this >> issue? >> > Can you use ntpd? > > Regards > Andrew > I'm pulling from a time server now every hour, keeps it from getting behind too much. Perhaps that is what I'll end up doing, loading the ntp server, I guess that would keep it up to date better? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 18:29:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AE8106568D for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1D18FC1B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:29:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 16395332 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:29:22 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:29:25 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:29:23 -0600 Thread-Topic: Question regarding getifaddrs Thread-Index: Acp7WQcd2ecoLQKzRSKTKy2gtFHrQA== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33D0E191@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Question regarding getifaddrs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:29:26 -0000 I use this function to retrieve a list of network interfaces on a system. T= his works well enough with one exception--here seems to be multiple entries= for each of the interfaces, and the data in the duplicate entries isn't th= e same. What is the proper way to filter the list of structures returned by= getifaddrs? Is there a better way to get this same information? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 18:50:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24A8106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688F48FC08 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBCIoXNA016281; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:50:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBCIoX8V016278; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:50:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:50:33 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20091212175406.39dbcb8e.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20091212175406.39dbcb8e.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:50:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: Carmel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:50:36 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:06:01 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: >> Normally, the user shouldn't have to create XML files. > > If they intended to use another than default english keyboard > layout... well, creating the correspoinding XML file as shown > in the handbook seemed to be the way to go. I had thought about putting a footnote about that, but it was already too long. Also, I don't know about non-English keyboards. Maybe there's a mechanism in hal to detect preferred keyboard layout from the LANG setting. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 19:00:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93188106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282F68FC14 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so2251973ewy.3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:00:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pxQhWJnAr8983kGgnJ5Vs7r2Qkww3R2sklI6v3LoV/U=; b=S86Bovx/pHH7UIhWZ+CPEXIsqvxgOOBhqp0PCXrdAV4fAVaQyvbA7ySn/jdIuGv/Bo mY4atpnnuPVpzU/O4KAPj6QAQlzmDmZ01kqFOVCWrxXHukb7fki96ZGhfU8FdyCBdc8n VXPBGzL6GSXvz7wTYvlS1Ncw87NSiKrDL3rFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WGtXrTxGb2fNwuuJpNnPcCKSL++bCzLXbsCX1ivQS9eOb+V8o5sSrmm6oVzd5SJgKo p8khcjEtTdglkfrQOtMD+XxRqcuGzJ28qMl6k/FYqi6YHsoz+9OIbTVl4v5bbi7wIUSS 2rq9XNAvFk76ysjq1/i651AtOG+AezTLUUQcA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.110.17 with SMTP id l17mr1203648ebp.18.1260644450092; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:00:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B23DE63.8000608@webtent.net> References: <4B23CD8A.50203@webtent.com> <26ddd1750912120930m7b02182ma0ace3e4977643a0@mail.gmail.com> <4B23DE63.8000608@webtent.net> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:00:30 -0500 Message-ID: <26ddd1750912121100v63e02b58gb7d7363a6381d9ed@mail.gmail.com> To: Robert Fitzpatrick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: slow clock on FreeBSD 7.2 on vmware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:00:52 -0000 On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick wro= te: > On 12/12/2009 12:30 PM, Maxim Khitrov wrote: >> >> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick >> =C2=A0wrote: >> >>> >>> I found posts about this and a possible solution is to disable APIC by >>> adding hint.apic.0.disabled=3D1 to /boot/loader.conf. But after doing s= o, >>> it >>> booted to the mountroot prompt and would not recognize my ufs:/dev/da0s= 1a >>> partition when tried. I went to FixIt and removed the line from the >>> loader.conf file and it boots fine. I do have some other things to help >>> the >>> pgsql db on this server in the loader.conf file, are they interfering? >>> >>> pgsql# cat /boot/loader.conf >>> kern.ipc.semmni=3D32 >>> kern.ipc.semmns=3D512 >>> hint.apic.0.disabled=3D1 >>> >> >> Add kern.hz=3D"100" to loader.conf. >> >> - Max >> > > Thanks for the suggestion, but i added to the loader.conf file, but the > kernel would not even load then, let alone getting to any prompt includin= g > mountroot :( > I've never encountered that problem. I have two VMWare servers running 7.2, and this is the only way to get semi-accurate time keeping. You still have to run ntpd to keep the clock from drifting. Maybe remove the other settings from loader.conf and try again with just this one line? If the kernel still doesn't load, what messages do you see on the screen? - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 19:05:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AA3106566C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE8F8FC0A for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBCJ5fsn016338; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:05:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBCJ5eP8016335; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:05:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:05:40 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Diego Montalvo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:05:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reinstalling Video Driver in 8.0-RELEASE.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:05:42 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Diego Montalvo wrote: > I have successfully upgraded 7.1-RELEASE TO 8.0-RELEASE and have > successfully installed XFCE and Opera etc on VirtualBox 3.0.x... The > issue is that at time of FreeBSD installation, I forgot to set my > (Virtualbox) video card with 3D acceleration and with a good amount of > memory. > > I have re-adjusted the Virtualbox settings with 3D acceleration and > 64MB of memory. XFCE is currently running at 800x600 resolution, but > does not give me an option for any larger resolution. How do I go > about reconfiguring my video card in FreeBSD 8.0, so I can run XFCE at > 1280x720? No experience with VirtualBox, but resolution is a function of the monitor. If VirtualBox doesn't pass the real monitor's resolution through to the emulated machine or let you set a size for an emulated monitor, you'll have to set it in xorg.conf. Probably with entries in both Monitor and Screen sections. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 19:13:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714E4106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55138FC17 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id nBCJDPlQ030883; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:13:25 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:13:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200912111928.59833.freebsd@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: <200912111928.59833.freebsd@insightbb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200912122013.25034.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steven Friedrich Subject: Re: SMB shares vs. FreeBSD8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:13:35 -0000 On Saturday 12 December 2009 01:28:59 Steven Friedrich wrote: > My SMB share, a 320GB WD NetCenter, fails to mount because the rl ethernet > isn't up yet. I dual-boot 7.2 and 8.0. Try changing ifconfig_xxx="DHCP" to "SYNCDHCP", or add synchronous_dhclient="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. - Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 19:51:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534E3106568B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA61F8FC2F for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id nBCJDPlQ030883; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:13:25 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:13:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200912111928.59833.freebsd@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: <200912111928.59833.freebsd@insightbb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200912122013.25034.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steven Friedrich Subject: Re: SMB shares vs. FreeBSD8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:51:25 -0000 On Saturday 12 December 2009 01:28:59 Steven Friedrich wrote: > My SMB share, a 320GB WD NetCenter, fails to mount because the rl ethernet > isn't up yet. I dual-boot 7.2 and 8.0. Try changing ifconfig_xxx="DHCP" to "SYNCDHCP", or add synchronous_dhclient="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. - Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 20:03:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8C6106566B for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7652A8FC15 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GJlc1d00217dt5G56L3N7F; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:03:22 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GL3L1d00K1f6R9u3ZL3MGy; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:03:22 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:03:19 -0800 Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:03:19 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091212200318.GA24556@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net> <20091212004841.GR2939@evil.alameda.net> <19235.9037.745429.518011@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19235.9037.745429.518011@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:03:22 -0000 On Fri 11 Dec 2009 at 20:59:57 PST Robert Huff wrote: > >Ulf Zimmermann writes: > >> Just go to Fry's Electronic. Most of their systems are still >> MS-Dos with Novell for network, running text based >> inventory/quote/sales app. > > Ca _lot_ of small businesses have something similar. And why not? There's no need for any multi-user, multi-processing GUIness in those environments. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 20:05:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CD81065694 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Received: from mx3.cyfra.ua (mx3.cyfra.ua [62.80.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200208FC25 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c.206.174.a516.dyn.adsl.cyfra.net ([62.80.174.206] helo=bedside.lena.kiev.ua) by mx3.cyfra.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1NJXvG-00046D-OY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:46:34 +0200 Received: from bedside.lena.kiev.ua (localhost.lena.kiev.ua [127.0.0.1]) by bedside.lena.kiev.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBCJkSUT020561 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:46:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Received: (from lena@localhost) by bedside.lena.kiev.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBCJkRuu020560 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:46:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:46:27 +0200 From: Lena@lena.kiev.ua To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091212194627.GA20498@lena.kiev> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Mutt and openssl from port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:05:45 -0000 Hi, 7.1-PRERELEASE. I'd like Mutt to use zlib compression when connecting to pop3s. openssl in base doesn't support zlib. I installed openssl port from package (in the port zlib in on by default), wrote in make.conf: WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes and `portupgrade -f mutt`. However, Mutt still uses openssl from base: ~ $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt /usr/local/bin/mutt: libncursesw.so.7 => /lib/libncursesw.so.7 (0x28103000) libssl.so.5 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.5 (0x2814f000) libcrypto.so.5 => /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x28190000) libintl.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x282ea000) libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x282f3000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x283ea000) Then I patched /usr/ports/mail/mutt/Makefile : CONFIGURE_ARGS= --enable-pop --enable-imap --disable-fcntl \ - --with-ssl=${OPENSSLBASE} --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \ + --with-ssl=/usr/local --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \ but got the same. I suppose that OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE doesn't work: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-November/065565.html What can I do? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 20:10:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6741065676 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6953F8FC17 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F0C1EED5; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:10:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nBCKAN6q002174; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:10:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:10:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20091212211023.60600f0f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20091212175406.39dbcb8e.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:10:26 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:50:33 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: > I had thought about putting a footnote about that, but it was already > too long. Also, I don't know about non-English keyboards. Maybe > there's a mechanism in hal to detect preferred keyboard layout from the > LANG setting. But if LANG isn't set, and LC_* settings differ? I think detecting the keyboard layout from the keyboard itself is not possible at all (how should it?). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 20:14:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5826D106566C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxyd.oxyd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f228.google.com (mail-fx0-f228.google.com [209.85.220.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3DA8FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:14:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm28 with SMTP id 28so356059fxm.13 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:14:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VeFB6U0l5GO6yY/W0VXr2k87/dv/5Z22Igw4iCo3wws=; b=HnaDZuEfMawSacw4yf+PzpskZDxL3tctKJ1ZU4Hc5T1HMvqvn9SZI2m6hYf8OBcq59 r/u+qr62b2T5AuLgD0Bjwq0MP7aR7LqClAOnHhtplj0SX8MDipOnCEMVcUMKL6yzCRr+ TMiOuag1JEc2K0M7lL77HLhJoLiCzrU+0LN34= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wRiglFy9mE3WfvlClFMpL1wzaoPInQfgRWrcy2RAyprWwj5p9+iaTYSKEBLty3vpyS 81lmC+lOpTR6WwGO4r/zO4wUuIr9VvuUVDi4mi3L2HRryXN444vEAO2g/ByByhFBaWAZ sVV3CiqtHSWum2R/cXsBalKrG3jclIiwj+tmc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.233.20 with SMTP id f20mr3637465fgh.28.1260648889721; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:14:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091212211023.60600f0f.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20091212175406.39dbcb8e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091212211023.60600f0f.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:14:49 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Majerech?= To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Carmel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'X' vs. 'Mouse' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:14:52 -0000 2009/12/12 Polytropon : > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:50:33 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: >> I had thought about putting a footnote about that, but it was already >> too long. =C2=A0Also, I don't know about non-English keyboards. =C2=A0Ma= ybe >> there's a mechanism in hal to detect preferred keyboard layout from the >> LANG setting. > > But if LANG isn't set, and LC_* settings differ? I think > detecting the keyboard layout from the keyboard itself is > not possible at all (how should it?). Yeah -- for instance, my LANG and all LC_* variables are set to en_US.UTF-8, so guess what my keyboard layout is? Yes, it is "us" and "cz_qwerty". When I was briefly using HAL, it took a lot of cursing to tell HAL that I want to have a second layout and that I want to be able to switch layouts using a keyboard shortuct. Using xorg.conf it is ridiculously easy. ~ Ondra From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 22:24:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E9F106568D for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B711C8FC20 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:24:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 57E2C34D45C; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:24:37 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, utisoft@gmail.com Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:24:37 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912122224.37295.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Kevin Oberman Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:24:47 -0000 > 2009/12/11 Kevin Oberman : > >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +0000 > >> From: Matthew Seaman > >> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > >> > >> Polytropon wrote: > >> > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: > >> >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed > >> >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't > >> >> count dragonflyBSD) > >> > > >> > VMS would be #0, then? :-) > >> > >> I dunno. Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... > > > > I'm sure that there are systems happily running MSDOS, but I bet not too > > many are networked. > > > > I know that there is still a lot of VMS out there and that it has > > remained a cash cow for HP. It lived on primarily in the banking and > > financial sector, though I guess the use is dropping since HP recently > > outsourced support to India and that lead to the retirement of the last > > of the original VMS developers, Andy Goldstein. > > > > Also, the the end of TECO as Andy was responsible for porting it to > > almost every platform DEC ever sold (RSX, RSTS, VMS, TOPS-10 and > > TOPS-20, RT-11, and several others) and continued to maintain it until > > his retirement. (Most readers of this list probably don't even remember > > TECO.) > > > > And, for may years VMS had major network security problems, especially > > the infamous default DECNET/DECNET account that lead to may compromises > > and the second major network worm, Worms Against Nuclear Killers. (I > > won't use the acronym so as not to offend our British readers. I found > > out about that when the BBC interviewed me about it and I was told that > > I could not utter the word.) > > Wow, I didn't know your side don't use that word... I thought I knew > about all the stereotypically British ones! > > Do you guys have any curses or insults at all??? > > Chris > I ran a radio show in the states - the language restrictions there woooooooooooow were they strict!! David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 22:29:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52E3106568F for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394D08FC16 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B19EB4784; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:29:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BBC452FB; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:29:33 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XjTKzrQmqCEF; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:29:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-203-39.home.otenet.gr [94.64.203.39]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475BE451B2; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:29:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBCMTVWO007563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:29:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nBCMTU3a007560; Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:29:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline References: <20091212080949.GA2606@thought.org> <87fx7ga7lw.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20091212182115.GB4431@thought.org> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:29:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20091212182115.GB4431@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:21:15 -0800") Message-ID: <87bpi3aks5.fsf_-_@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: DNS problems at thought.org [was: Re: lynx failure....] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:29:35 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:21:15 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:01:47AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:09:52 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >>> Using lynx: >>> >>> Looking up www.thought.org >>> Unable to locate remote host www.thought.org. >>> Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. >>> >>> Obviously, something is wrong with how my new DBS, mAil, and web >>> server, ethic, is configurated. Can anybody help me here? >> >> Are you sure DNS for the "thought.org" domain works? >> >> keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ host www.thought.org >> Host www.thought.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) >> keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ > > The more I think about it, no, I'm not sure. The guy who set up my > new DNS was using the named in ports while I was using the one in > /usr/sbin. That shouldn't be a problem. Both bind versions should be able to serve your zone files correctly. When you see 'weird' DNS errors from one place but they seem to magically disappear if you perform the same query from another place, it is _very_ often a good indication that there is _somewhere_ a stale SOA record and a stale copy of your zone files. Tracking down where the stale SOA record is cached may be a bit of work, but it's definitely doable... The name servers registered for your domain at `thought.org' are: : $ host -t ns thought.org 2>&1 | expand | fgrep 'name server' | \ : awk '{print $NF}' : a.ns.celestial.com. : ns1.localhostservices.net. : b.ns.celestial.com. : d.ns.celestial.com. : ns2.secondary.com. : ns1.thought.org. : c.ns.celestial.com. : $ The IPv4 addresses of these hosts seem to be: : $ host -t ns thought.org 2>&1 | expand | fgrep 'name server' | \ : awk '{print $NF}' | \ : while read name ; do \ : addrs=$( host "${name}" 2>&1 | fgrep 'has address' | \ : awk '{print $NF}' | sort ); \ : echo "${name} ${addrs}" ; \ : done | tee thought.org-ns.txt : a.ns.celestial.com. 192.136.111.41 : ns1.localhostservices.net. 69.55.236.116 : ns1.thought.org. 209.180.213.210 : ns2.secondary.com. 198.133.199.4 : c.ns.celestial.com. 192.136.111.43 : b.ns.celestial.com. 192.136.111.42 : d.ns.celestial.com. 65.255.106.208 : $ So there are seven (7) different name servers that should have the same SOA record and the same version of your zone file. How many of them *do* have the same version though? : keramida@kobe:~$ while read nshost nsip ; do \ : echo "${nshost} [${nsip}] =>" ; \ : dig "@${nsip}" thought.org soa 2>&1 | expand | \ : fgrep ' SOA ' | sed -e 's/.* SOA[ ]*//' ; \ : echo ; \ : done < thought.org-ns.txt : : a.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.41] => : aristotle.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2008121902 10800 3600 604800 38400 : : ns1.localhostservices.net. [69.55.236.116] => : ethic.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2009120801 10800 3600 604800 38400 : : ns1.thought.org. [209.180.213.210] => : ethic.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2009120801 10800 3600 604800 38400 : : ns2.secondary.com. [198.133.199.4] => : : c.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.43] => : aristotle.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2008121902 10800 3600 604800 38400 : : b.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.42] => : aristotle.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2008121902 10800 3600 604800 38400 : : d.ns.celestial.com. [65.255.106.208] => : aristotle.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2008121902 10800 3600 604800 38400 : : keramida@kobe:~$ >From this output you can now see that: * There is at least one name server in your NS list that does not have a SOA record at _all_ for your domain (ns2.secondary.com) * There are four name servers that have stale copy of your zone file from last year (a.ns.celestial.com, b.ns.celestial.com, c.ns.celestial.com, and d.ns.celestial.com). * There are two name servers that appear to have a copy from 2009-12-08 (ns1.thought.org and ns1.localhostservices.net) Trying to resolve `www.thought.org' through each one of these name servers, to find the ones that cause some of the DNS queries to fail, shows the following: : $ while read nshost nsip ; do \ : echo "${nshost} [${nsip}] =>" ; \ : dig "@${nsip}" www.thought.org a | expand | \ : grep '^www\.thought\.org' ; \ : echo ; \ : done < thought.org-ns.txt : a.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.41] => : www.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME aristotle.thought.org. : : ns1.localhostservices.net. [69.55.236.116] => : www.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. : : ns1.thought.org. [209.180.213.210] => : www.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME ethic.thought.org. : : ns2.secondary.com. [198.133.199.4] => : : c.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.43] => : www.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME aristotle.thought.org. : : b.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.42] => : www.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME aristotle.thought.org. : : d.ns.celestial.com. [65.255.106.208] => : www.thought.org. 38400 IN CNAME aristotle.thought.org. : : $ Trying the same query for "aristotle.thought.org" works for the servers with the old, stale SOA records (and the zone file from last year), but it fails for ns1.thought.org and ns1.localhostservices.net: : $ while read nshost nsip ; do \ : echo "${nshost} [${nsip}] =>" ; \ : dig "@${nsip}" aristotle.thought.org a | expand | \ : grep '^aristotle\.thought\.org' ; \ : echo ; done < thought.org-ns.txt : : a.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.41] => : aristotle.thought.org. 38400 IN A 209.180.213.210 : : ns1.localhostservices.net. [69.55.236.116] => : : ns1.thought.org. [209.180.213.210] => : : ns2.secondary.com. [198.133.199.4] => : : c.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.43] => : aristotle.thought.org. 38400 IN A 209.180.213.210 : : b.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.42] => : aristotle.thought.org. 38400 IN A 209.180.213.210 : : d.ns.celestial.com. [65.255.106.208] => : aristotle.thought.org. 38400 IN A 209.180.213.210 : : $ The same query for "ethic.thought.org" reveals yet another problem. Your name server at ns1.thought.org is not responding to queries: : $ while read nshost nsip ; do \ : echo "${nshost} [${nsip}] =>" ; \ : dig "@${nsip}" ethic.thought.org a | expand | \ : grep '^ethic\.thought\.org' ; \ : echo ; \ : done < thought.org-ns.txt : : a.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.41] => : : ns1.localhostservices.net. [69.55.236.116] => : ethic.thought.org. 38400 IN A 209.180.213.210 : : ns1.thought.org. [209.180.213.210] => : : ns2.secondary.com. [198.133.199.4] => : : c.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.43] => : : b.ns.celestial.com. [192.136.111.42] => : : d.ns.celestial.com. [65.255.106.208] => : : $ You have some serious DNS issues with your current setup. I think you should start by: 1) *Removing* from the NS records of your domain the name servers that are not necessary (the celestial.com ones). 2) *Updating* the NS list of the same domain at the DNS registrar you are using to use ns1.thought.org and ns1.localhostservices.net. 3) Checking the firewall settings at ns1.thought.org to see why it does not respond to queries. The current listing of name servers for thought.org in whois(1) output points to the name servers of celestial.com. -- the ones with the bogus SOA record from last year: : $ whois thought.org : [...] : Tech ID:GKG-C00000A6A4 : Tech Name:Gary Kline : Tech Organization:Thought Unlimited : [...] : Tech Email:c7cc9848d2890d50b47f6bc835d93463a88d4a6a@whois.gkg.net : Name Server:NS1.SECONDARY.COM : Name Server:NS2.SECONDARY.COM : Name Server:NS1.THOUGHT.ORG : Name Server:A.NS.CELESTIAL.COM : Name Server:B.NS.CELESTIAL.COM : [...] When you *do* update the NS listing through your DNS registration service, point it _only_ at name servers that really have a valid copy of your zone files and are set up to serve as secondaries. After a while, when the changes propagate to all the name servers, your domain should work fine with bind (either the base-system or ports version). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 23:36:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BE41065692; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271CB8FC1D; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBCNXSB0055176; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:33:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:33:52 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20091212.163352.850602504923947435.imp@bsdimp.com> To: wmoran@potentialtech.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, mexas@bristol.ac.uk, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:36:00 -0000 In message: <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Bill Moran writes: : In response to Anton Shterenlikht : : : > >From my information security manager: : > : > FreeBSD isn't much used within the University (I understand) and has a : > (comparatively) poor security record. Most recently, for example: : > : > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-exploit-for-FreeBSD-873352.html : : Are you trying to make your infosec guy look like an idiot? Does he : realize that FreeBSD has a grand total of 16 security problems for all : of 2009? Hell, Microsoft has that many in an average month. And many of them were for code supplied by others... : If he can find something (other than OpenBSD) with a better record than : that, I'd love to hear about it. Are you sure that OpenBSD has a better record? Warner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 23:44:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCFC1065695; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF188FC16; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:44:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi12 with SMTP id 12so576423pxi.3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:44:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Cfz9sl5sKDjfhzz3w0BqaXGeitCyV6bp3ruRLjE6rfU=; b=PMiZIu5Ho7sVujODwDRnVHxds73o9yrNinRBeOWLnN33DK865+QQGjYDZH6pkaATxd /y4DeGDfzgB+86XdCHMU6glpHxlVADrWGPxINgpzAKE6pIiBfNeDHGKyVjmpL2ce7jSg 6ZKF+mkdY9VwozGKu0Rm7hlwOLU+sLottXKHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=QsQePiqezjXaSSRY2uudOt8qDOETHI21nZThzYL4yxFiQwUfERaPxIGq7ZwxaFwD1a qd7wB4+qAHVJe9u38pR953wTiAhEd8CTj0Z+8kRwKZMqyw5nfwsDJRSNn6dljRoK0Lxm AXjwj2hBK8mbg/k0+MzMr2tZXKPTjFqoYtHzI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.75.15 with SMTP id x15mr1932031wfa.152.1260661473746; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:44:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091212.163352.850602504923947435.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20091210144141.GB834@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091210095122.a164bf95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091212.163352.850602504923947435.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:44:33 -0600 Message-ID: <11167f520912121544j471e2f15oc2b2bdba926b46ab@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: "M. Warner Losh" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, mexas@bristol.ac.uk, wmoran@potentialtech.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:44:38 -0000 > > Are you sure that OpenBSD has a better record? I found this for loose reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Security_and_code_auditing I will say that even though on the surface OpenBSD appears to have a better track record security wise I tend to use FreeBSD for my desktop needs because of things like Nvidia Graphics (esp now that there is amd64 support) also wine works in FreeBSD and some of my clinets still run windows apps. I find FreeBSD is the middle ground the world needs between Linix and OpenBSD Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 23:45:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE151065693 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B108F8FC26 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-24-6-221-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.221.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nBCNjOXH001717 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:45:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B242B13.5010101@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:45:23 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Why /usr/ports/UPDATING and /usr/src/UPDATING files are needed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:45:24 -0000 When I am in FreeBSD I have to be always aware that I have to check these files before upgrading the system. And I need to do some custom things myself. When I am in Ubuntu apt-get just does everything by itself without manual intervention. Why FreeBSD doesn't automate things that are in UPDATING files as well? In almost 100% of cases it's no-brainer. Why can't portupgrade just execute a script instead of posting such script in UPDATING file and have me run it? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 23:55:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567A71065672 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A5E8FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBCNtGrl007667; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:55:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:55:16 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200912122355.nBCNtGOL007666@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: Lena@lena.kiev.ua, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: Mutt and openssl from port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:21 -0000 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:46:27 +0200 Lena@lena.kiev.ua wrote: >7.1-PRERELEASE. I'd like Mutt to use zlib compression when connecting to pop3s. >openssl in base doesn't support zlib. I installed openssl port from package >(in the port zlib in on by default), wrote in make.conf: > >WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes > >and `portupgrade -f mutt`. However, Mutt still uses openssl from base: > >~ $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt >/usr/local/bin/mutt: > libncursesw.so.7 => /lib/libncursesw.so.7 (0x28103000) > libssl.so.5 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.5 (0x2814f000) > libcrypto.so.5 => /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x28190000) > libintl.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x282ea000) > libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x282f3000) > libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x283ea000) > Right. We tor users just went through that, too. The problem is that what WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=YES does is to add -L/usr/local/lib to the cc or gcc command that does the link edit step. However, that adds the desired directory to the *end* of the list of directories to be searched, when what you want is to put it at the beginning of the list. What I ended up doing was to add LDFLAGS="-rpath=/usr/local/lib" to the ./configure step for tor, so you may want to take a look at the "make config" target to see how best to do that for mutt. Be careful that the use of -rpath won't cause it to include libraries from /usr/local/lib instead of from the base system for other stuff where you might not want that to happen. >Then I patched /usr/ports/mail/mutt/Makefile : > > CONFIGURE_ARGS= --enable-pop --enable-imap --disable-fcntl \ >- --with-ssl=${OPENSSLBASE} --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \ >+ --with-ssl=/usr/local --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \ > >but got the same. I suppose that OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE doesn't work: >http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-November/065565.html >What can I do? > See explanation above. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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