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Date:      Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:21:55 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak 
Message-ID:  <200007191821.MAA83214@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:09:48 %2B0200." <946.964030188@critter.freebsd.dk> 
References:  <946.964030188@critter.freebsd.dk>  

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In message <946.964030188@critter.freebsd.dk> Poul-Henning Kamp writes:
: A geiger counter and a smoke-detector would be *so much* cheaper
: and give more bits per second :-)

Agreed.  And a lot less hassle.  A *LOT* less hassle. :-)

: >It certainly would be better than nothing and would be a decent source 
: >of randomness.  It would be my expectation that if tests were run to
: >measure this randomness and the crypto random tests were applied,
: >we'd find a fairly good source.
: 
: The trick here is to actually measure the quality of our entropy.
: I have asked Markm to provide us with some kernel option which can
: be used to get a copy of the entropy so we can study the quality
: off it.

Yes.  That's the hard part.  that's one area where my knowledge is
somewhat weak.

: BTW: You have *no* idea how much I envy your access to high quality
: timing hardware :-)

Well, there are hidden benefits working here that I never knew :-)

Warner


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