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Date:      Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:15:44 -0700
From:      Jeremy Chadwick <jdc@koitsu.org>
To:        Willem Jan Withagen <wjw@digiware.nl>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Adam Strohl <adams-freebsd@ateamsystems.com>
Subject:   Re: shutdown -r / shutdown -h / reboot all hang and don't cleanly dismount
Message-ID:  <20130623011544.GA77759@icarus.home.lan>
In-Reply-To: <51C64437.3000007@digiware.nl>
References:  <51C1979D.3010305@ateamsystems.com> <20130619122143.GA70813@icarus.home.lan> <51C1A9BF.8030304@ateamsystems.com> <20130619133538.GA71689@icarus.home.lan> <51C1BCF6.8090606@ateamsystems.com> <20130619150414.GA72566@icarus.home.lan> <51C64437.3000007@digiware.nl>

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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 02:41:27AM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
> On 19-6-2013 17:04, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> >- Adam runs 9.1-RELEASE because of business needs pertaining to
> >   freebsd-update and binary updates.  (I ask more about this for
> >   benefits of readers below, however -- because this situation comes
> >   up a lot and I want to know what real-world admins do)
> 
> The bug is very specifically available in 9.1-RELEASE because I got
> bit by it before the release of 9.1. But discussed it with avg@ and
> it did not make it into the release, but was submitted only like 2
> weeks later.
> 
> So in that case you can probably stop looking.
> 
> For just about any 9.1-STABLE after that should the fix be in the code.

I'm not sure why so many people (so far) seem to think that this problem
is always the same issue -- it isn't.  There are multiple things that
have historically (and/or presently) have caused this issue.

Here's the list I composed only a few days ago, and it is far from
thorough:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-June/073863.html

My point is that the "shutdown -r issue" issue might manifest itself in
the same fashion for everyone, but the **root cause** often differs.
I.e.  what fixed it for you may not fix it for Adam.  We must wait and
see (he's in the process of getting a system to try stable/9 on).

-- 
| Jeremy Chadwick                                   jdc@koitsu.org |
| UNIX Systems Administrator                http://jdc.koitsu.org/ |
| Making life hard for others since 1977.             PGP 4BD6C0CB |




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