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Date:      Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:58:09 -0800
From:      "Kip Macy" <kip.macy@gmail.com>
To:        obrien@freebsd.org, "Kip Macy" <kip.macy@gmail.com>,  freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is it possible to debug an AMD kernel on Intel
Message-ID:  <b1fa29170711261058s5d5e1631y27ae8486e0707f34@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20071126180500.GB79600@dragon.NUXI.org>
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On Nov 26, 2007 10:05 AM, David O'Brien <obrien@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 10:32:13PM -0800, Kip Macy wrote:
> > Also can we do what the rest of the world does and refer to it as
> > x86_64 or 64-bit intel? Continuing to refer to it as amd (I know they
> > came up with instruction set extensions but its now a fundamental part
> > of the x86 ISA) only serves to confuse new users.
>
> NO.  AMD pioneered this platform.  Without them we'd all be unhappily
> headed towards IA64's.  It is Intel that has constantly chosen to confuse
> its customers.  This is not a problem for The FreeBSD Project to fix.


Yes David, we do owe AMD a debt of thanks for accelerating the death
of ia64. But I have to burst your bubble. They are EXTENSIONS to
32-bit Intel not a new ISA. And conservative extensions at that.

I'm not advocating we change the name of the architecture in the tree,
but we are in a small minority in using AMD instead of x86_64 or
64-bit intel. In the future I'll remember to re-direct all "Can I run
an amd64 kernel on an Intel processor?" questions to you. And if you
don't answer promptly I'll give them my opinion on things.

 Cheers,
 Kip



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