From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 1: 3:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F1C37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020217090331.WIUV2951.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:03:31 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1H93VM29972; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:03:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:03:30 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Tim Fulmer Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd and redirect_port Message-ID: <20020217010330.I48401@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <000a01c1b5bf$b94b5ef0$f2dca8c0@athena> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000a01c1b5bf$b94b5ef0$f2dca8c0@athena>; from tfulmer@dslextreme.com on Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 05:25:59PM -0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 05:25:59PM -0800, Tim Fulmer wrote: > > > Hi All, > > Having a bit of trouble with natd. > > Here's the setup : > > Internet > | > 66.Q.X.Y > 192.168.A.1---->192.168.A.2 > 192.168.B.1 > +--->192.168.B.2 > > I am browsing from 192.168.B.2. > > compiled a kernel with added options : > > options CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU > options NO_F00F_HACK > options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN > options IPFIREWALL > options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 > options IPDIVERT > > > relevant rc.conf : > > gateway_enable="YES" > ifconfig_rl0="inet 66.Q.X.Y netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_rl0_alias0="inet 66.Q.X.Z netmask 255.255.255.255" > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_type="OPEN" > natd_enable="YES" > natd_interface="rl0" > natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf" > > > and natd.conf : > > redirect_port tcp 192.168.A.2:80 80 > > > and am still getting the local apache installation when I point a browser at 66.Q.X.Y, though the connection sharing works fine from both internal nets. At some point in the future redirect_address may also be a good idea, but right now that is non-functional as well. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. You are saying that the redirect does not work when you try to connect from the NAT'ed network? This is expected. When you send the SYN to 66.Q.X.Y it goes to the gateway on the internal interface. It goes through your firewall rules and is either accepted or denied (you didn't show us the rules). If it is denied, story over. If it is accepted, the machine recognizes 66.Q.X.Y as its own address and processes the packet. And you are apparently running a webserver on this machine so it responds as expected. This is apparently not what you expect? natd(8) is only passed packets from ipfw(8) via the 'divert' rule when the packets are crossing the rl0 interface. In this situation, the packets never cross rl0, never go to natd(8), and translation will never occur. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 1:15:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr (postfix2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A6E37B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (lille-2-a7-5-146.dial.proxad.net [62.147.5.146]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 99E7821A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:15:24 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: mess-mate To: "freebsd-questions-en" Subject: Re: booting from a floppy Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:12:06 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <20020216210739.E4586AB1DB@postfix1-2.free.fr> <5.1.0.14.0.20020216202815.00c1cf10@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020216202815.00c1cf10@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20020217091524.99E7821A@postfix2-1.free.fr> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks. I should do . On Sunday 17 February 2002 02:32, you wrote: | At 01:50 2002/02/17 +0100, mess-mate wrote: | >I respond to myself. | >Did it with lilo and I can start FBSD now. | >Ther is an other pb : | >how can I disabling my mouse in console ??? | >A message is continuing displayed 'can't ........ cuaa0 .... is | > busy ' | >The connected mouse-port is com1 on a serial microsoft protocol. | >She worked on the install of FBSD but now no more. | | I had that problem with a different sort of mouse. I just edited | /etc/rc.conf. There's a line in there moused_enable=3D"YES" | Change the "YES" to a "NO" and that should fix the problem | | HTH | Scott Robbins --=20 mess-mate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 1:16:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2579537B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-vcaum4g.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.88.144] helo=timothyr.net) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16cNQw-0001Vj-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 04:16:35 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (scarlet [10.0.0.2]) by timothyr.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1H9GUg00779 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:16:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from timothyr@timothyr.com) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:16:26 -0800 Subject: Re: LPRng and /dev/null: SOLVED From: "Timothy L. Robertson" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Man, do I feel like a fool. Doing a make install from ports leaves the old lpr, lpq, lprm, and lpd files in /us/bin alone, so they show up first in the path. I needed to move them and symlink in the new files from /usr/local/bin for everything to work. On 2/16/02 11:39 PM, "Timothy L. Robertson" wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm trying to set up my 4.5 box as a print server to a Windows GDI printer > using RedMon and GhostScript. I've got it working so that if I do > > cat file.ps | /usr/local/libexec/filters/gs_9700_smb > /dev/null > > Things work fine. (gs_9700_smb is a filter which sends the file over smb to > the windows box. Included below.) > > I installed LPRng from ports, and have a very simple printcap file: > > lp: > :lp=/dev/null > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp > :filter=/usr/local/libexec/filters/gs_9700_smb > > But when I try to print a file I get: > > scarlet:~/prl 478$ lp test.ps > lpr: connect: No such file or directory > jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. > > Using checkpc, the LPRng diagnostic program gives > > scarlet:/home/timothyr 501# checkpc > 2002-02-16-23:33:36.457 scarlet lp: Checkwrite: fcntl F_SETFL of '/dev/null' > failed - Operation not supported by device > Warning - lp: cannot open lp device '/dev/null' - No Error > > Which looks to me like it's saying /dev/null doesn't act like a printer port > in some way. Any suggestions on how to make this work? > > Thanks, > -Tim > timothyr@timothyr.com > > scarlet:/home/timothyr 502# cat /usr/local/libexec/filters/gs_9700_smb > #!/bin/sh > # Print from Unix on a printer on SMB network. > # > client="DARKSTAR" # client name here... > pshare="GS9700" # and here printer share name > printfile="/tmp/smbspool.$$" > > cat > $printfile > if [ -s $printfile ] ; then > ( echo "translate" ; echo "print $printfile" ; echo "quit" ) \ > | smbclient \\\\$client\\$pshare printerpasswd -U printer -P -N > fi > rm -f $printfile > exit 0 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 2: 2:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from antares.surnet.ru (antares.surnet.ru [195.54.2.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A18B37B400; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 02:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by antares.surnet.ru (8.11.6/Joy) with UUCP id g1HA2SR69875; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:02:28 +0500 (YEKT) X-Authentication-Warning: antares.surnet.ru: uucp set sender to ilia@chel.skbkontur.ru using -f Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sol.chel.skbkontur.ru with ESMTP id g1H9np464530 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:49:52 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from ilia@chel.skbkontur.ru) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:49:51 +0500 (YEKT) From: =?koi8-r?B?6czY0SD7ydDJw8nO?= To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: squid + PAM Message-ID: <20020217144720.N64175-100000@sol.chel.skbkontur.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs, in auth_modules/PAM said that module is compiled using the following command, Compile this program with: gcc -o pam_auth pam_auth.c -lpam -ldl where should I take "dl" library ?? is it included in some port ? which one ? Regards, (=EE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=C5 =D0=CF=D6=C5=CC=C1=CE=C9=D1) Ilia Chipitsine (=E9=CC=D8=D1 =FB=C9=D0=C9=C3=C9=CE) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 2:24:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fe070.worldonline.dk (fe070.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 389B737B405 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 02:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9959 invoked by uid 0); 17 Feb 2002 10:24:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NEIGAARD?MOB) (213.237.13.224) by fe070.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 10:24:02 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:23:06 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?U/hyZW4gTmVpZ2FhcmQ=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <803740067.20020217112306@e-box.dk> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cluster information MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any information about FreeBSD clusters? Something about how they performs, how they scale and what they are good at. -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, Søren Neigaard mailto:neigaard@e-box.dk -- "Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not. In either case the idea is quite staggering." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 2:34:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr (postfix2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A563537B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 02:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (lille-1-a7-3-46.dial.proxad.net [62.147.3.46]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id A9D0B119 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:34:32 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: mess-mate To: "freebsd-questions-en" Subject: upsd problems Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:00:50 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20020217103432.A9D0B119@postfix2-1.free.fr> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, After my first install of FBSD I have following pb : (of course fonfigured the kernel before the install) in console there are continuing messages (on stdout) like 'upsd[226]: write port : cannot write to /dev/cuaa0 : Resource=20 temporarily unavailable'. 'upsd[226]: cannot put the UPS in smart mode' So, I thought this is a pb with my mouse and disabled the mouse in=20 /etc/rc.conf. Nothing helps. There is no way to eventually recompile the kernel with all this=20 messages on the screen. Are there maybe other services I have to disabling ? Thanks for your help. --=20 mess-mate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 2:48:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.home.nl (mail2.home.nl [213.51.129.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B8F37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 02:48:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([213.51.183.186]) by mail2.home.nl (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20020217104935.IGTQ29353.mail2.home.nl@there> for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:49:35 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Chris Delnooz To: Subject: Re: FreeBSD in school networks - interested? Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:46:46 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020216202047.P660-100000@pukruppa.de> In-Reply-To: <20020216202047.P660-100000@pukruppa.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020217104935.IGTQ29353.mail2.home.nl@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Peter, > I am a teacher on a "Gesamtschule" in Wuppertal, Germany. I have > got pupils/students between 10 and 19 years. > Since I behaved very well on our school's Win NT/2000 network our > Chief-Admin allowed me some spare 5 Gigs on four of our classroom > computers for "playing around" with some UN*X. That's some accomplishment already :P > At the first look this is not too sensational, but it is > a chance I would like to take to become independent of M$'s > monopol and price policy. Our schools always lack of money and > you have to fight for each single EURO if you whish to try > something new. And of course everybody is used to M$ software and > has to be convinced to learn something new. Yeah, it's the same everywhere... problem is that the politicians know nothing about eductation or computers... so they make decisions on something they don't know :P > I only teach maths and physics - so I don't know too much about > computers. Thus I would like to find some people "out there" who > are interested in this topic. Students, too, of course would be > welcome. > Perhaps - in a year or so - we could found a FreeBSD-schools > project. It's not very clear what you want to achieve with this "school-project". Do you have some clear goals in mind? I can imagine that you would install FBSD with some nice graphical environment (KDE sort of comes to mind, most M$ users will have little trouble with KDE) and enable your students to browse the web, read their emails and make their documents (staroffice, koffice, gnome-office etc) on a Unix machine. This will show them quickly that a Unix machine can do anything a m$ machine can do (and then some ;) Since you're a maths and physics teacher, you might want to incorporate some computer related courses, which will use FBSD ofcourse :) in the ports collection there are probably some programs that might be useful. Or you could make something yourself. This is just some initial rambling, my 2c so to say, i have nothing specific in mind (yet) but if you want to talk about it to generate some ideas, contact me on email (c.delnooz@home.nl). Oh, i'm from Roermond, Netherlands btw. regards Chris Delnooz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 3:14:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from amor.yuckfou.org (f40079.upc-f.chello.nl [80.56.40.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BBC37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 03:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from turbata.dhcp.yuckfou.org (turbata.dhcp.yuckfou.org [192.168.2.242]) by amor.yuckfou.org (Yuckfou Networks) with ESMTP id DFC2EBA1F for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:14:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: FreeBSD as traffic shaper From: Nils Vogels To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 17 Feb 2002 12:14:44 +0100 Message-Id: <1013944484.19544.2.camel@turbata.dhcp.yuckfou.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I recently installed a FreeBSD-4.5 system as a firewall with IPFilter, which is performing fine! :) I'd like to add an extra functionality to it, but I cant seem to find the correct docs for it. I'm looking for a way to prioritize data in and out of the firewall, so that when users access a file on the webserver which is behind it, my download speeds do not decrease .. does anyone know any good links to traffic shaping and/or QoS possibilities using FreeBSD ? Gr, -- Nils Vogels PGP:0xC26BD15F Available on keyservers. S@H:3099WU/4.426yr --> setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu. Will you find aliens? My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 5:59:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.csu.ru [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E0F37B402; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 05:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1HDxOd56088 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:59:27 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.11.6/8.11.2) with UUCP id g1HDxOA12544; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:59:24 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: from localhost (localhost.cgu.chel.su [127.0.0.1]) by jane.poka.net (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g1HDws100376; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:58:54 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:58:54 +0500 (YEKT) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@jane.poka.net To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pam_smbpass Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs, after I compiled samba --with-pam_sbmpass and put pam_smb_pass.so to /usr/lib ... Feb 17 18:56:35 bbs ftpd[1194]: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_smbpass.so) Feb 17 18:56:35 bbs ftpd[1194]: [dlerror: /usr/lib/pam_smbpass.so: Undefined symbol "get_interfaces"] Feb 17 18:56:35 bbs ftpd[1194]: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_smbpass.so what did I do wrong ? Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 6: 0:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170A337B428 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 06:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020217140011.ZEPJ1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:00:11 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1HE0AJ31104; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 06:00:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 06:00:10 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Nils Vogels Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD as traffic shaper Message-ID: <20020217060010.O48401@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <1013944484.19544.2.camel@turbata.dhcp.yuckfou.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1013944484.19544.2.camel@turbata.dhcp.yuckfou.org>; from nivo@yuckfou.org on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:14:44PM +0100 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:14:44PM +0100, Nils Vogels wrote: > Hi, > > I recently installed a FreeBSD-4.5 system as a firewall with IPFilter, > which is performing fine! :) > > I'd like to add an extra functionality to it, but I cant seem to find > the correct docs for it. > > I'm looking for a way to prioritize data in and out of the firewall, so > that when users access a file on the webserver which is behind it, my > download speeds do not decrease .. does anyone know any good links to > traffic shaping and/or QoS possibilities using FreeBSD ? man dummynet -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 6:20: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rudiment.dk (rudiment.egmont-kol.dk [130.225.237.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E1837B416 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 06:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.rudiment.dk (Postfix, from userid 104) id 723A6120C2; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:26:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rudiment.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63623120C1 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:26:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:26:43 +0100 (CET) From: Morten Grunnet Buhl Reply-To: Morten Grunnet Buhl To: Subject: Some jail questions In-Reply-To: <20020217022715.A11943@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello people, Yesterday I sad down and installed som jails and got em to work just fine, really it was a pice of cake, with the fine manual and all. But I ran into trouble when I tryed makeing one of the jail into an nfs sever for the other jails. So my first question is: Is at al all possible to run an nfs from a jail? Secondly I would like to hear from other users of jails, my plan was to put apache, mysql, nfs server and dns in seperate jails - is this to much, should I merge apache and mysql? Diskspace is not an issue, but im a little low on processing power and RAM. Its and old machine borrowed from a friend, so I cant tell much more about the its guts. The site hosted on the server is a private so theres not a lot of trafic, but im planning one using jails in production, as soone as I have learned a little more, so any help would be greatly appreciate. Thanks in advance, Morten To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 6:33:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web21104.mail.yahoo.com (web21104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C65E37B419 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 06:33:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 06:33:43 PST Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 06:33:43 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Subject: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi all, [ I am not currently subscribed to -questions, please CC a copy to me, thanks. :) ] I beleive this question is not intended for the -hackers list, but might be interesting. I have also cc'ed this to the -questions list. Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is kHTTPD for Linux? Thanks, Regards, -- Hiten Pandya -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 6:59:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from host213-123-129-40.in-addr.btopenworld.com (host213-123-129-40.in-addr.btopenworld.com [213.123.129.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B571B37B402; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 06:59:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by host213-123-129-40.in-addr.btopenworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8DA8B44E; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:59:35 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:59:35 +0000 From: Dominic Marks To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20020217145935.A1481@host213-123-129-40.in-addr.btop> References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>; from hitmaster2k@yahoo.com on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:33:43AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:33:43AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: > hi all, > > [ I am not currently subscribed to -questions, please CC a copy to > me, thanks. :) ] > > I beleive this question is not intended for the -hackers list, > but might be interesting. I have also cc'ed this to the > -questions list. > > Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is > kHTTPD for Linux? Ive never seen or heard of one, at least not one available to the general public. Services should be executed in the user space, thats what its for. Cross-polluting these user/kernel environments is to be discouraged. Thats my opinion anyway. > Thanks, > Regards, > > -- Hiten Pandya > -- > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Dominic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 7: 4:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF14C37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from potentialtech.com (dhcp065-024-023-038.columbus.rr.com [65.24.23.38]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g1HExKb06391 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:59:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C6FC768.5020908@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:08:24 -0500 From: Bill Moran Organization: Potential Technology User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010914 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Filserver clustering tool? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know of anything like this for FreeBSD? Basically, we want a backup fileserver that is kept updated almost in real-time, so that in the even of a failure we can fail over VERY quickly and have almost no data loss. I can't seem to find anything in the ports, but maybe I'm not looking in the right places. -- Bill Moran Potential Technology http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 7:30:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E86437B402; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id E79255344; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:30:20 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 17 Feb 2002 16:30:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hiten Pandya writes: > Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is > kHTTPD for Linux? God forbid! Lots of hack value, sure, but not something you'd seriously consider for production use. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 7:42:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mpr200-2.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-2.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E0737B405 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lymond.lvcablemodem.com (cm238.47.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.47.238]) by 100m.mpr200-2.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AWN40946; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dlm@localhost) by lymond.lvcablemodem.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g1HFdP700295 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:39:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:39:25 -0800 From: Dale Morris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: printing question Message-ID: <20020217073925.A223@lymond.lvcablemodem.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG freebsd version 4.5 epson stylus color 600 printer I'm new to freebsd from the debian/redhat/slackware world and I want to get printing working in freebsd. I thought I had it with apsfilter but when I tried to print a test file with abiword, the output was.. %!PS-Adobe-2.0 %%Creator Abiword %%Title /usr/home/dlm/abiword_test.abw %%Orientation: Portrait %%DocumentPaperSizes: Letter %%DocumentNeededResources font NimbusRomNo9L-Regu font NimbusRomNo9L-Regu %%EndComments %%BeginProlog /FSF {findfont exch scalefont} bind def .....etc................. What I would like to do is set up cups. I did the 'make install clean' in the relevant ports directories, but when I try to setup my printer using the http://localhost:631/admin command, I get the error that Netscape is unable to locate the localhost:631 I guess my questions are: How do I remove/disable lpd? How do I install cups? Do I have to reconfigure any file permissions? thanks dale To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 7:43:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8636137B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.12.2/2002020400) with ESMTP id g1HFhYj06077 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:43:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uni-sb.de (IDENT:FOUtLGgPL5eNKya/0ww3xD5003bCqQhe@mail.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.200]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.12.1/2001121800) with ESMTP id g1HFhXs08808 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:43:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de (wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.247.42]) by mail.cs.uni-sb.de (8.12.2/2002011500) with ESMTP id g1HFhVO01113 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:43:32 +0100 (CET) Received: (from schuerge@localhost) by wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de (8.11.0/8.11.0/wjp-SVR4/1999052600) id g1HFhVo26442 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:43:31 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Schuerger Message-Id: <200202171543.g1HFhVo26442@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de> Subject: New dir layout structure slow on full disks? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:43:31 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL57 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'm using 4.5-RELEASE and am quite happy with the new directory layout stuff. It really speeds up file scans etc. a lot. But there can be serious performance loss: When a disk is nearly full (e.g. 98%, but still 1,6 GB free, values taken from "df"), creating files becomes very slow. I noticed this when I wanted to install a big port (e.g. kdebase2). The extraction of the .tar.gz archive took really long and made my system more or less unusable. tar took something like 90-99% system time for 3 minutes. I compared extracting the same archive in /tmp (slice 1,disk 1, 3% full) with tar compared to extracting it somewhere in /usr/ports/... (slice 2,disk 1, 98% full). The latter took 8 times as long and almost completely blocked my system (note that this is on the same disk but on a different slice). It seems that looking for free nearby blocks in the new directory layout algorithms is really slow when there are few free blocks available. Is anyone else experiencing this? Greetings, Thomas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 7:47:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rambo.simx.org (rambo.simx.org [194.17.208.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB9B37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from rambo.simx.org (rocky [192.168.0.2]) by rambo.simx.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1HFkaZ22769; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:46:39 GMT (envelope-from listsub@rambo.simx.org) Message-ID: <3C6FD05B.7060703@rambo.simx.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:46:35 +0100 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" Reply-To: listsub@rambo.simx.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nils Vogels Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD as traffic shaper References: <1013944484.19544.2.camel@turbata.dhcp.yuckfou.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nils Vogels wrote: > Hi, > > I recently installed a FreeBSD-4.5 system as a firewall with IPFilter, > which is performing fine! :) > > I'd like to add an extra functionality to it, but I cant seem to find > the correct docs for it. > > I'm looking for a way to prioritize data in and out of the firewall, so > that when users access a file on the webserver which is behind it, my > download speeds do not decrease .. does anyone know any good links to > traffic shaping and/or QoS possibilities using FreeBSD ? > > Gr, > > IPFW has something called dummynet that does what you want. Switch to ipfw or run both ipfw and ipfilter. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 8: 6:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D4837B405 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from potentialtech.com (dhcp065-024-023-038.columbus.rr.com [65.24.23.38]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g1HG1Sb19037; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:01:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C6FD5F7.7060702@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:10:31 -0500 From: Bill Moran Organization: Potential Technology User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010914 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Schuerger Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New dir layout structure slow on full disks? References: <200202171543.g1HFhVo26442@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Schuerger wrote: > Hi! > > I'm using 4.5-RELEASE and am quite happy with the new directory layout > stuff. It really speeds up file scans etc. a lot. > > But there can be serious performance loss: > > When a disk is nearly full (e.g. 98%, but still 1,6 GB free, values > taken from "df"), creating files becomes very slow. I noticed this > when I wanted to install a big port (e.g. kdebase2). The extraction of > the .tar.gz archive took really long and made my system more or less > unusable. tar took something like 90-99% system time for 3 minutes. Err ... have you compared this to performance on a filesystem that's close to full with the old dirpref code? I'm gussing it would be similarly slow. ffs doesn't run well with close-to-full drives, it was never intended to. I believe both the man pages for newfs and tunefs state that performance drops exponentially on a filesystem as it passes the 92% capacity mark. That's why, under normal conditions, only root can fill it beyond that mark. When you say 98% full, do you mean 98% of the 92%, or do you mean 98% of the total fs capacity? If the former is the case, then you really do have an issue that needs looked at. If the latter is the case, then you are simply reiterating a known limitation of ffs that's been there since (I believe) BSD 4.2. -- Bill Moran Potential Technology http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 8:18:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bigfoot.com (adsl-216-102-199-63.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.199.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A82037B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:18:12 -0800 (PST) X-Server: (freedomserver.net.nu [0.12.134.146.55]) Message-ID: <006901c1b7ae$67d09540$0600a8c0@nu> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=F3rum_Social_Mundial...?= To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?..._e_F=F3rum_de_S=E3o_Paulo_se_d=E3o_a_m=E3o?= Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:27:03 -0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Caros amigos, Acabamos de receber, e retrasmitimos sob nossa exclusiva responsabilidade, um artigo sobre o Fórum Social Mundial de Porto Alegre, com informações que os meios de comunicação locais não deram. O artigo foi publicado hoje 15 de fevereiro no jornal Diario Las Américas, da Flórida. Está em espanhol, mas pensamos que dá para entender. Para tomar contato conosco, veja no final os links diretos, é só fazer clic. Atenciosos cumprimentos, Roberto L. Ferreira Passos Atualidade Brasileira / Rio de Janeiro cdurgent@urgentmail.com Diario Las Américas, Flórida, 15-2-2002 PORTO ALEGRE: FÓRUM SOCIAL MUNDIAL E FÓRUM DE SÃO PAULO SE DÃO A MÃO Anunciam gigantesca e preocupante articulação mundial de esquerdas político-sociais PORTO ALEGRE (CubDest) - El 2o. Foro Social Mundial (FSM), efectuado en Porto Alegre entre el 31 de enero y el 5 de febrero pp., consiguió combinar una apariencia de moderación -trasmitida al mundo con la ayuda de ciertos medios de comunicación que se limitaron a mostrar aspectos folklóricos o anecdóticos del evento- con una realidad que causa preocupación por su denso contenido revolucionario. Veamos, más allá de las apariencias, algunos aspectos de ese congreso en el cual se amalgamaron más de 50 mil activistas de izquierda de 119 países, en torno de 800 conferencias y seminarios . La tónica de las reuniones fue dada por socialistas, anarquistas, comunistas, seguidores de la teología de la liberación, de movimientos indigenistas y de corrientes feministas marxistas. El gobernador de Rio Grande do Sul, Olívio Dutra, del izquierdista Partido de los Trabajadores (PT), que actuó como anfitrión y fue uno de los grandes financiadores del evento, proclamó sin disimulo en la abertura del 2o. FSM que sus participantes se sienten "herederos" de todos los "luchadores socialistas y de los teólogos de la liberación" así como "de quienes se rebelan contra los sistemas de opresión" como el "neoliberalismo", que "esconde el rostro feroz de la tiranía del mercado y de las finanzas transnacionales" . El religioso dominico Fray Betto, uno de los más importantes estrategas de la "teología de la liberación" en Brasil, consejero del dictador Fidel Castro y autor del libro "Fidel y la Religión", fue una de las "estrellas" del 2o. FSM. En un auditorio de sacerdotes, monjas y millares de militantes de comunidades eclesiales de base (CEBs) que lo ovacionaron reiteradamente, dijo que la sociedad del futuro "más libre, más igualitaria, más solidaria", se define en una sola palabra: "socialismo". Pidió una salva de aplausos ni más ni menos que para Carlos Marx y añadió de manera chocante que el "hombre nuevo" debe ser "hijo del casamiento de Ernesto 'Che' Guevara y Santa Teresa de Jesús" . El norteamericano Noam Chomsky, profesor del Instituto de Tecnología de Massachussets (MTI), otra de las "estrellas" ideológicas del 2o. FSM, se define a sí mismo como "socialista libertario" (o sea, anarquista) y es uno de los más conocidos intelectuales anticapitalistas de la actualidad. En una de sus aplaudidas intervenciones declaró que el mundo vive una nueva "lucha de clases ideológica", entre los partidarios de una globalización que "favorece las grandes empresas multinacionales" y los adherentes a la globalización revolucionaria promovida por los miembros del FSM, que tiene como objetivo la "creación de un movimiento popular internacional" . Sin duda, ese "movimiento popular internacional" es una nueva Internacional anarco-socialista, hábilmente organizada en "redes" (de manera "horizontal" y no "vertical"), que sirve para darle una apariencia de espontaneidad. Uno de los ejemplos más elocuentes de esta articulación internacional de fuerzas revolucionarias, ocurrida en Porto Alegre, fue el seminario organizado por el Foro de São Paulo (FSP), en el marco del Foro Social Mundial. Éste se realizó en el salón de eventos de la Pontificia Universidad Católica de Rio Grande del Sur (PUC/RS), sede principal del FSM, con la presencia de 600 delegados sudamericanos, cubanos, franceses e italianos. El FSP fue creado en julio de 1990 en Brasil, a pedido de Fidel Castro, con el objetivo de proteger al socialismo cubano y latinoamericano en momentos en que se consumaba la desintegración del imperio soviético . Está integrado por los partidos comunistas del continente, las guerrillas FARC y ELN de Colombia, el Partido de los Trabajadores (PT) de Brasil y otros movimientos políticos del género. Ha venido haciendo reuniones anuales donde se trazan comunes estrategias. La última se efectuó en La Habana, en diciembre de 2001, con la activa participación de Castro. La idea de una ampliación del Foro de São Paulo, para agrupar corrientes políticas afines del mundo entero, fue lanzada en el seminario del FSP por Aloisio Mercadante, diputado federal del Partido de los Trabajadores (PT) y secretario de relaciones internacionales de dicha agrupación política: "Actualmente, el Foro de São Paulo reúne cerca de 100 partidos y organizaciones de izquierda latinoamericanas. Lo que deseamos es ampliar este Foro a nivel mundial, al que podríamos pasar a denominar Foro de Porto Alegre y que se efectuaría por primera vez simultáneamente con el 3er. Foro Social Mundial, en el 2003" . El sindicalista brasileño Kjeld Jakobsen, secretario de relaciones internacionales de la izquierdista Central Única de Trabajadores (CUT), en cuanto miembro del comité organizador del 2o. FSM agradeció la presencia de los representantes del FSP y saludó la "posibilidad de construir un gran frente integrado por partidos y por movimientos sociales a nivel mundial" . Carlos Tiburcio, representante de ATTAC-Brasil y miembro del comité organizador del FSM, junto con reconocer que el seminario del FSP constituía "una gran iniciativa del 2o. FSM", respaldó la sugerencia de Mercadante de ampliar el FSP para una instancia planetaria y propuso que ese futuro evento cuente con la participación "de jefes de Estado y de gobierno" . Tiburcio no lo mencionó explícitamente, pero a través de una invitación a "jefes de Estado" se abriría la puerta para que en el 2003, durante el 3er. FSM a efectuarse nuevamente en Porto Alegre, pueda estar presente el dictador comunista de Cuba. Por fin, Roberto Regalado, del departamento de Relaciones Internacionales, área América, del comité central del Partido Comunista de Cuba (PCC) -uno de los más activos articuladores del FSP- vislumbrando las perspectivas estratégicas ventajosas que se abren para el régimen cubano, endosó la propuesta del diputado Mercadante afirmando que "debemos enfrentar el desafío de organizar un Foro a nivel mundial" . Es significativo que en los días previos al 2o. FSM se efectuó en Montevideo el seminario "Los comunistas reflexionan y debaten sobre políticas de alianzas en el nuevo siglo", con la participación de partidos comunistas de 13 países de América del Sur, Europa Occidental y Cuba. En él se hizo un balance de la 10a. reunión del FSP efectuada recientemente en La Habana y se combinó la estrategia de los comunistas que fue puesta en práctica durante el 2o. FSM . En un escenario inestable como el que actualmente atraviesan varios países de América Latina, todas estas articulaciones deberían ser motivo de meditación y alerta. Otros aspectos del 2o. Foro Social Mundial serán abordados en próximo artículo. IMPORTANTE: Para enviar su valiosa opinión, haga clic en el link deseado, de acuerdo con su posición: Concorda ou não com as apreensões e preocupações do Editorial da agência CubDest sobre o recente Fórum Social Mundial? ("Concuerdo", "Discuerdo", "Depende"): mailto:cdurgent@urgentmail.com?Subject=Concuerdo mailto:cdurgent@urgentmail.com?Subject=Discuerdo mailto:cdurgent@urgentmail.com?Subject=Depende ATENCIÓN: Para recibir el artículo "Presencia de Cuba en el 2o. Foro Social Mundial", haga clic en: mailto:cdurgent@urgentmail.com?Subject=Informe-Cuba-FSM2002 Para recibir otros artículos sobre el 2o. 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Amendment I, The US Constitution To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 8:21:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF28537B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.12.2/2002020400) with ESMTP id g1HGLjj06273; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:21:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uni-sb.de (IDENT:9kl/W3fD33JTZfAa08iBFUHUnqWvWqxQ@mail.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.200]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.12.1/2001121800) with ESMTP id g1HGLis09211; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:21:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de (wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.247.42]) by mail.cs.uni-sb.de (8.12.2/2002011500) with ESMTP id g1HGLgO01609; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:21:43 +0100 (CET) Received: (from schuerge@localhost) by wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de (8.11.0/8.11.0/wjp-SVR4/1999052600) id g1HGLgl27185; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:21:42 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Schuerger Message-Id: <200202171621.g1HGLgl27185@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de> Subject: Re: New dir layout structure slow on full disks? In-Reply-To: <3C6FD5F7.7060702@potentialtech.com> from Bill Moran at "Feb 17, 2002 11:10:31 am" To: Bill Moran Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:21:42 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL57 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Hi! > > > > I'm using 4.5-RELEASE and am quite happy with the new directory layout > > stuff. It really speeds up file scans etc. a lot. > > > > But there can be serious performance loss: > > > > When a disk is nearly full (e.g. 98%, but still 1,6 GB free, values > > taken from "df"), creating files becomes very slow. I noticed this > > when I wanted to install a big port (e.g. kdebase2). The extraction of > > the .tar.gz archive took really long and made my system more or less > > unusable. tar took something like 90-99% system time for 3 minutes. > > Err ... have you compared this to performance on a filesystem that's > close to full with the old dirpref code? I'm gussing it would be > similarly slow. > > ffs doesn't run well with close-to-full drives, it was never intended > to. I believe both the man pages for newfs and tunefs state that > performance drops exponentially on a filesystem as it passes the > 92% capacity mark. That's why, under normal conditions, only root > can fill it beyond that mark. > > When you say 98% full, do you mean 98% of the 92%, or do you mean > 98% of the total fs capacity? > > If the former is the case, then you really do have an issue that > needs looked at. If the latter is the case, then you are simply > reiterating a known limitation of ffs that's been there since (I > believe) BSD 4.2. I mean the user-visible percentage (that's why I said "values taken from df"). I didn't compare it to the performance of the old dirpref code, but I have never noticed anything similar before 4.5-RELEASE even if the disks where even more full (df-capacity >100%). When I deleted some files on the disk (from 98% to 96% capacity), creating files seemed fine again as ever. Greetings, Thomas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 8:22:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.rwwa.com (ns1.rwwa.com [66.92.67.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBC537B429 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwwa.com (harvey.rwwa.com [192.124.97.11]) by ns1.rwwa.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985753235 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:22:11 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Where does the "xterm" queue come from? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:22:11 -0500 From: Robert Withrow Message-Id: <20020217162211.985753235@ns1.rwwa.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: On FreeBSD 4.2, if I do this: $ lpc lpc> stat all xterm: ... I get an "xterm" print queue. But if I do this: $ lpc stat all | grep xterm I don't get an "xterm" print queue. Also, if I do both of the above as root, I *don't* get an "xterm" queue. I don't have an "xterm" print queue configured anywhere! $ grep xterm /etc/printcap $ find /var/spool | grep xterm $ What gives? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 8:25:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.whitey.at (chello212186056066.12.vie.surfer.at [212.186.56.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B372F37B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19713 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 16:28:34 -0000 Received: from void.whitey.at (HELO void.whitey.at.) (192.168.1.1) by 0 with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 16:28:34 -0000 Subject: Re: Unable to get IMAP or POP working From: Christian Weihs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020217040818.40423.qmail@web13407.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020217040818.40423.qmail@web13407.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.1 Date: 17 Feb 2002 17:25:15 +0100 Message-Id: <1013963115.376.14.camel@void.whitey.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is something that botheres me.... You have sendmail, fine. Yhen courier-imap? courier-imap works ONLY with qmail's Maildir format and can't use tradidional UN*X mailboxes. I don't know which POP program you use but IMAP will certainly NOT access your emails. Christian Am So , 2002-02-17 um 05.08 schrieb Matt Bjornson: > I have recently installed 4.5 on an older i486. I have > 32MB of ram, and a 400MB HD. I have sendmail up and > running and am able to sendmail to and from this box. > I am able to read my mail with the 'mail' program. > > I am unable to access my mail server within my network > as well as from the internet with the webmail program > SquirrelMail. I have courier imap and pop installed. I > am able to telnet into both port 143 and 110 on my > mail server from within my network, though am unable > to have an email client send and receive email. > Instead I receive a time out error. > > Can you help me? > > Thanks, > > Matt > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 8:30:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from voi.aagh.net (pc1-hart4-0-cust168.mid.cable.ntl.com [62.254.84.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAA737B400; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky by voi.aagh.net with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16cUD7-000DmV-00; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:30:45 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:30:45 +0000 From: Thomas Hurst To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20020217163045.GB90303@voi.aagh.net> Mail-Followup-To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Organization: Not much. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.5-PRERELEASE (i386) X-Uptime: 4:25PM up 59 days, 1:10, 4 users, load averages: 2.55, 2.64, 2.52 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Dag-Erling Smorgrav (des@ofug.org) wrote: > Hiten Pandya writes: > > Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is kHTTPD > > for Linux? > > God forbid! Lots of hack value, sure, but not something you'd > seriously consider for production use. Don't functions like FreeBSD's zero-copy sendfile() provide similar performance benefits without the massive security issues? If the remaining speed "hog" of switching to userspace to process the request itself is causing noticable bottlenecks, I think that's a sign you need more Pentium than the service needs moving to the kernel :) -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - freaky@aagh.net - http://www.aagh.net/ - One of the disadvantages of having children is that they eventually get old enough to give you presents they make at school. -- Robert Byrne To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 8:36: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from energyhq.homeip.net (213-97-200-73.uc.nombres.ttd.es [213.97.200.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421A737B417; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by energyhq.homeip.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DC1673FC51; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:36:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:36:09 +0100 From: Miguel Mendez To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20020217173609.A25030@energyhq.homeip.net> References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>; from hitmaster2k@yahoo.com on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:33:43AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:33:43AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: Hi, > Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is > kHTTPD for Linux? As others have pointed out, it may have big hacker value, but no one would use it for anything serious. AFAIK there's no such thing for FreeBSD, but one thing I remember, is that once the Linux kernel incorporat= ed the zero copy netowrking code, userland HTTP servicing like Tux saw it's performance increase on par with khttpd, so it seems that's not worth to run a http server in kernel space. Cheers, --=20 Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk FreeBSD - The power to serve! --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8b9v4nLctrNyFFPERAue8AKCWMrT0H60sbMv9qLIU6pPnpiC72ACeMBY8 /iRHuwAYXUN1x4CMQI7FV80= =x/Qc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 8:43:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from midget.dons.net.au (daniel.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B454B37B400; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1HGhIbC042120; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 03:13:19 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Subject: Re: XFree86 4.2.0 + Asus A7A266 + Geoforce 2 Pro = No Go From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Javier Frias Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <1013930452.6346.19.camel@wolverine.jfns.net> References: <1013930452.6346.19.camel@wolverine.jfns.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 18 Feb 2002 04:13:14 +1130 Message-Id: <1013964198.15796.107.camel@chowder.dons.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.3 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 18:50, Javier Frias wrote: > Basically, anytime XFree86 4 ( and the version really doesn't matter, > I've tried it with 4.1.x and 4.2.0 ) loads the nv driver, the machines > locks up for a few seconds, then reboots. I was able to get a working > config from the system by removing libint10.a from the xfree directory, > but any attempt at then running the xserver with the new config has > the same effect.. Have you tried the port of the Linux nvidia driver that Matthew Dodd created? ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/nvidia/README Beware it's not a finished product but it does work well for me at least :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 8:54:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF3737B416; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from scott1.nyc.rr.com (24-168-24-239.nyc.rr.com [24.168.24.239]) by nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.12.1/Road Runner SMTP Server 1.0) with ESMTP id g1HGrdlS007368; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:53:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020217114540.00c322e0@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> X-Sender: scottro@pop-server.nyc.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:54:02 -0500 To: "Daniel O'Connor" , Javier Frias From: Scott Subject: Re: XFree86 4.2.0 + Asus A7A266 + Geoforce 2 Pro = No Go Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <1013964198.15796.107.camel@chowder.dons.net.au> References: <1013930452.6346.19.camel@wolverine.jfns.net> <1013930452.6346.19.camel@wolverine.jfns.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:13 2002/02/18 +1130, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 18:50, Javier Frias wrote: > > Basically, anytime XFree86 4 ( and the version really doesn't matter, > > I've tried it with 4.1.x and 4.2.0 ) loads the nv driver, the machines > > locks up for a few seconds, then reboots. I was able to get a working > > config from the system by removing libint10.a from the xfree directory, > > but any attempt at then running the xserver with the new config has > > the same effect.. One trouble seems to be with the Asus A7A266--some cursory searching of deja indicates that there were problems noted in Release 4.3 that haven't yet been fixed. After trying a few cards (didn't even realize the problem was the ASUS till I downgraded a Voodoo5) I was able to get adequate, though not great, resolution with a G200, using XFree 3.x. No joy with XFree 4.x (All cards worked perfectly in a low end machine with an SiS chipsets, with XFree 4.1 and 4.2) The same cards gave me no problem with MS or Linux on the same box. >Have you tried the port of the Linux nvidia driver that Matthew Dodd >created? >ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/nvidia/README >Beware it's not a finished product but it does work well for me at least >:) Haven't tried Mr. Dodd's port as I don't have a Geoforce--still, I'm betting it's the MB rather than the card, but if I had a Geoforce, I'd give it a shot :) Scott Robbins >--- >Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer >for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au >"The nice thing about standards is that there >are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 9: 4:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zerg.codec.ro (zerg.codec.ro [193.230.240.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656AE37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by zerg.codec.ro (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g1HH3Cv14161; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:03:12 +0200 Message-Id: <200202171703.g1HH3Cv14161@zerg.codec.ro> From: Soso Lolex To: questions freebsd Subject: IMPORTANT FOR: XFree86 4.x + i740 users !!! Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:03:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [193.226.6.226] X-Mailer: freemail 0.9.8 X-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 2000) Opera 6.0 [en] X-Organization: CODEC FreeMail Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I posted a message a while ago about the fact that I couldnt get running XFree86 4.x with i740 driver. Well, after too many desperate tries, I found a page on the net, and it seems that the server was properly configured but the diver for i740 was baddly written (a null pointer was referenced). I took the patched version of the driver, compiled it and it works. So if anyone seems to have my problem you should take a look at http://a2-studio.virtualave.net/xfree86/i740.htm greetings, soso ______________________________________________________________________ Do you want a free e-mail for life ? Get it at http://www.email.ro/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 9:19:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF63C37B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7034 invoked by uid 0); 17 Feb 2002 17:19:04 -0000 Received: from p5086eeb4.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO sirius.gmx.de) (80.134.238.180) by mail.gmx.net (mp007-rz3) with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 17:19:04 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020217181915.00ba9b40@pop.gmx.net> X-Sender: 12304286@pop.gmx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:22:00 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Thomas Salmon Subject: strange files in /usr folder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ..there are some strange files in the /usr directory. The filenames are: ?qq tatfs?qqq Does anybody know what these files are for? Appreciating any answer Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 9:24: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mango-bay.com (mail.mango-bay.com [208.206.15.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF0E37B405 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from barbish ([63.70.155.75]) by mail.mango-bay.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52377U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:28:14 -0500 From: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" To: Cc: "FBSD" , , "Patrick Soltani" Subject: RE: IPFW check-state rules Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:23:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020217080858.P48401@blossom.cjclark.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Crist you wrote this. I am saying it is difficult to get ipfw(8) 'keep-state' to work well with natd(8). It may not be worth it for many users. It does not provide additional protection. You are way out in no where land with that statement. I have read you stating in other posts that keep-stated provides much better security. And if keep-state did not provide better firewall security then why would somebody take the time to write it? Well I killed natd and user ppp and restarted user ppp with -nat flag and now the rules in the outbound section of my rules set as posted here early, minis the divert rule are functioning. The correct answer to my original question was to get rid of natd from the ipfw rules set and use the user ppp nat function. The only thing remaining to do is test each rule one at a time to be sure all the rules are functioning as desired. A very large Thank you to all who responded to me question. -----Original Message----- From: Crist J. Clark [mailto:crist.clark@attbi.com] Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 11:09 AM To: Joe & Fhe Barbish Cc: Patrick Soltani; cvarda@flopnet.com.br Subject: Re: IPFW check-state rules On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 10:04:21AM -0500, Joe & Fhe Barbish wrote: > Crist > Read your reply many, many times and the only conclusion > I come to is you are trying to say that the advanced > check-state function of IPFW does not work with natd(8). I am saying it is difficult to get ipfw(8) 'keep-state' to work well with natd(8). It may not be worth it for many users. It does not provide additional protection. > That if I had static ip addresses from my ISP assigned to my > lan machines the advanced check-state function of IPFW would > function as advertised. > [IE: there would be no 'divert natd all from any to any' rule > in the ipfw rule set]. ipfw(8) 'check-state' works fine. At issue is how a ruleset with 'keep-state' rules and a 'divert' rule to natd(8) functions as a whole. > This explains why my check-state/keep-state rule set only > functions correctly for packets originating from the FBSD box > where the ipfw/natd is running. Yep. > This sure looks like a design error in ipfw. It is due to the fact that ipfw(8) is totally independent from natd(8) and knows nothing about natd(8). natd(8) messes with the source and destination addresses of packets and there is no way for ipfw(8) to know about it. > So what if I turn off natd(8) and turn on Nat of user ppp, > remove the 'divert natd all from any to any' from my ipfw rule set, > will it work them? Actually, yes, it should. ppp(8) does its NAT after packets leave the firewall on the way out and before they enter on the way in. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 9:29: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sonic.kks.net (sonic.kks.net [213.161.0.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2ADC37B42A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from voyager.kksonline.com (5-51.ro.cable.kks.net [213.161.5.51]) by sonic.kks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDBB266 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:29:06 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20020217182317.02ac04c8@164.8.8.5> X-Sender: rozmanal@164.8.8.5 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:25:26 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Aleksander Rozman - Andy Subject: filesystem problem (bad file descriptor) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I was trying to do cvsup and it seems that one of source directories got damaged. I can't set it, delete it or do anything else... If I do ls -l command it said: "Bad file descriptior". How do I solve this. I would like to fix fs and delete this files. I will then cvsup again so that all files will be restored. Please help. Andy ************************************************************************** * Aleksander Rozman - Andy * Fandoms: E2:EA, SAABer, Trekkie, Earthie * * andy@kksonline.com * Sentinel, BH 90210, True's Trooper, * * andy@atechnet.dhs.org * Heller's Angel, Questie, Legacy, PO5, * * Maribor, Slovenia (Europe) * Profiler, Buffy (Slayerete), Pretender * * ICQ-UIC: 4911125 ********************************************* * PGP key available * http://www.atechnet.dhs.org/~andy/ * ************************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 9:33:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rudiment.dk (rudiment.egmont-kol.dk [130.225.237.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3623E37B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.rudiment.dk (Postfix, from userid 104) id 33A52120C2; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:39:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rudiment.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088DF11FBE for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:39:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:39:53 +0100 (CET) From: Morten Grunnet Buhl Reply-To: Morten Grunnet Buhl To: Subject: Re: Some jail questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Morten Grunnet Buhl wrote: > Hello people, After a more thorough search in the mailing list I found the answers to my first question - so no help, in the area, is needed. All though I would like to hear from others on my other questions. > Secondly I would like to hear from other users of jails, my plan was to > put apache, mysql, nfs server and dns in seperate jails - is this to much, > should I merge apache and mysql? > Diskspace is not an issue, but im a little low on processing power and > RAM. Its and old machine borrowed from a friend, so I cant tell much more > about the its guts. > The site hosted on the server is a private so theres not a lot of trafic, > but im planning one using jails in production, as soone as I have learned > a little more, so any help would be greatly appreciate. Thanks in advance, Morten To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 9:35:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4297637B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:35:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21126 invoked by uid 0); 17 Feb 2002 17:35:50 -0000 Received: from p5086eeb4.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO sirius.gmx.de) (80.134.238.180) by mail.gmx.net (mp014-rz3) with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 17:35:50 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020217182418.00ba5430@pop.gmx.net> X-Sender: 12304286@pop.gmx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:38:52 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Thomas Salmon Subject: observing ppp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'am running Freebsd 4.5 on a gateway. My dsl-connection is established with the ppp-Modul. ppp runs with the options "auto" and "nat". What i'd like to know is: how do i know if a connection is established and wether ppp is doing nat on the interface? thanks for your answer Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 9:50:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pseudo1.pseudohost.com (64.90.182.6.nyinternet.net [64.90.182.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3702A37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 46824 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 17:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wolverine.jfns.net) (66.65.6.178) by 64.90.182.6.nyinternet.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 17:53:26 -0000 Subject: Re: XFree86 4.2.0 + Asus A7A266 + Geoforce 2 Pro = No Go From: Javier Frias To: Daniel O'Connor Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <1013964198.15796.107.camel@chowder.dons.net.au> References: <1013930452.6346.19.camel@wolverine.jfns.net> <1013964198.15796.107.camel@chowder.dons.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.1 Date: 17 Feb 2002 12:50:59 -0500 Message-Id: <1013968260.753.2.camel@wolverine.jfns.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 11:43, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 18:50, Javier Frias wrote: > > Basically, anytime XFree86 4 ( and the version really doesn't matter, > > I've tried it with 4.1.x and 4.2.0 ) loads the nv driver, the machines > > locks up for a few seconds, then reboots. I was able to get a working > > config from the system by removing libint10.a from the xfree directory, > > but any attempt at then running the xserver with the new config has > > the same effect.. > > Have you tried the port of the Linux nvidia driver that Matthew Dodd > created? > ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/nvidia/README > Beware it's not a finished product but it does work well for me at least > :) > Thx.. am going to try it RIGHT now... lets see if I can get something working.. :) -Javier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10: 1:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0991C37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-66-124-158-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [66.124.158.42]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g1HI1k329110 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:01:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:30:16 -0800 (PST) From: Kirk Bollinger X-X-Sender: To: Subject: SMP Kernel Panic 4.5 In-Reply-To: <1013944484.19544.2.camel@turbata.dhcp.yuckfou.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have an Abit VP6 with two PIII's 1Ghz. I'm getting the following kernel panic: panic: lockmgr: pid 142, not sxclusive lock holder -80536370 unlocking mp_lock = 00000001; cpuid = 0: lapic.id = 00000000 boot() called on cpu0 syncing disks... I have 4.5 installed with a generic kernel with these modifications: #cpu I386_CPU #cpu I486_CPU # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O #STUFF I ADDED options NMBCLUSTERS=8192 any ideas? thanks! -kirk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10: 3: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB3637B404; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id DE7CE5341; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:02:57 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Thomas Hurst Cc: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <20020217163045.GB90303@voi.aagh.net> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 17 Feb 2002 19:02:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20020217163045.GB90303@voi.aagh.net> Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Hurst writes: > Don't functions like FreeBSD's zero-copy sendfile() provide similar > performance benefits without the massive security issues? sendfile() isn't zero-copy, it's just two-less-copies. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:14:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mustard.heime.net (mustard.heime.net [194.234.65.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DE237B400; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (roy@localhost) by mustard.heime.net (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g1HIDox06415; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:13:50 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:13:50 +0100 (CET) From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk X-Sender: To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Thomas Hurst , , , Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > sendfile() isn't zero-copy, it's just two-less-copies. zero-copy means "zero copy-operations within memory" non-zero-copy usually goes device -> buffer -> user space -> buffer -> device (2 copy operations) zero-copy device -> buffer/userspace/shared -> device -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA Computers are like air conditioners. They stop working when you open Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:15:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mustard.heime.net (mustard.heime.net [194.234.65.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A1937B44B; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:15:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (roy@localhost) by mustard.heime.net (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g1HIFAA06437; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:15:10 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:15:10 +0100 (CET) From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk X-Sender: To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: , , Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is > > kHTTPD for Linux? > > God forbid! Lots of hack value, sure, but not something you'd > seriously consider for production use. well .. So let's turn the question upside-down, and ask "Is there a web server or -accelerator for FreeBSD with similar performance as with khttpd or Tux? -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA Computers are like air conditioners. They stop working when you open Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:17:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chen.org.nz (adsl-210.54.19.51.quicksilver.net.nz [210.54.19.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3A337B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:17:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by chen.org.nz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1HIH3q00486; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:17:03 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:17:03 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: mess-mate Cc: freebsd-questions-en Subject: Re: upsd problems Message-ID: <20020218071703.A229@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <20020217103432.A9D0B119@postfix2-1.free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020217103432.A9D0B119@postfix2-1.free.fr>; from messmate@free.fr on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 11:00:50AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 11:00:50AM +0100, mess-mate wrote: > Hello all, > After my first install of FBSD I have following pb : > (of course fonfigured the kernel before the install) > in console there are continuing messages (on stdout) like > 'upsd[226]: write port : cannot write to /dev/cuaa0 : Resource > temporarily unavailable'. > 'upsd[226]: cannot put the UPS in smart mode' > So, I thought this is a pb with my mouse and disabled the mouse in > /etc/rc.conf. > Nothing helps. Well, you could read the message. It's the process "upsd" that's complaining about an error. It's probabably a UPS controller that you've installed (I assume you've got a UPS attached to your machine). Kill it and your messages will stop. You can uninstall it, or attach your UPS to /dev/cuaa0 (COM1 in DOS speak). -- Jonathan Chen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:26:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90DF37B405; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 32CC95341; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:26:01 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk Cc: , , Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 17 Feb 2002 19:26:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk writes: > well .. So let's turn the question upside-down, and ask "Is there a web > server or -accelerator for FreeBSD with similar performance as with khttpd > or Tux? Have you tried thttpd or boa? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:27: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from host213-123-129-40.in-addr.btopenworld.com (host213-123-129-40.in-addr.btopenworld.com [213.123.129.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1946037B41E; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:26:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by host213-123-129-40.in-addr.btopenworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5F83F44E; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:27:21 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:27:21 +0000 From: Dominic Marks To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20020217182721.C1481@host213-123-129-40.in-addr.btop> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from roy@karlsbakk.net on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 07:15:10PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 07:15:10PM +0100, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > > > Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is > > > kHTTPD for Linux? > > > > God forbid! Lots of hack value, sure, but not something you'd > > seriously consider for production use. > > well .. So let's turn the question upside-down, and ask "Is there a web > server or -accelerator for FreeBSD with similar performance as with khttpd > or Tux? Zeus is the best overall. A lot of people also seem to have good performance from tHttpd and Boa. When you say 'similar performance' how many Mbit/s can Tux achieve (for static and dynamic content aggregated). > -- > Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA > > Computers are like air conditioners. > They stop working when you open Windows. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Dominic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:31:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mustard.heime.net (mustard.heime.net [194.234.65.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1011837B400; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (roy@localhost) by mustard.heime.net (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g1HIV6i06497; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:31:06 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:31:06 +0100 (CET) From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk X-Sender: To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: , , Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Have you tried thttpd or boa? thttpd chrashed when >2 simultanous downloads was started (large files) haven tried boa... > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org > -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA Computers are like air conditioners. They stop working when you open Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:32:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F21437B47D for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020217183147.XROO2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:31:47 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1HIVjq31867; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:31:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:31:45 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Joe & Fhe Barbish Cc: FBSD , cvarda@flopnet.com.br, Patrick Soltani Subject: Re: IPFW check-state rules Message-ID: <20020217103145.Q48401@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20020217080858.P48401@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from barbish@a1poweruser.com on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:23:59PM -0500 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:23:59PM -0500, Joe & Fhe Barbish wrote: > Crist you wrote this. > I am saying it is difficult to get ipfw(8) 'keep-state' to work well > with natd(8). It may not be worth it for many users. It does not > provide additional protection. > > > You are way out in no where land with that statement. > I have read you stating in other posts that keep-stated provides > much better security. And if keep-state did not provide better firewall > security then why would somebody take the time to write it? 'keep-state' provides much better protection than a stateless packet filter, no doubt about it. But combining NAT and a stateless firewall makes a stateful packet filter. However, I feel that that is abusing NAT. NAT is not a security feature. NAT is something you do to increase your IP address space. I don't like the fact that 'keep-state' and natd(8) do not work well together. There are quite a few things that I don't like about 'keep-state.' That's one of the main reasons I don't use it much anymore. I use IPFilter (but it has its limits too). > Well I killed natd and user ppp and restarted user ppp with -nat flag > and now the rules in the outbound section of my rules set as posted > here early, minis the divert rule are functioning. The correct answer to > my original question was to get rid of natd from the ipfw rules set and > use the user ppp nat function. I didn't know you were using ppp(8). -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:33:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441FB37B404; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:33:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 6053A5343; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:33:01 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk Cc: Thomas Hurst , , , Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 17 Feb 2002 19:33:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk writes: > > sendfile() isn't zero-copy, it's just two-less-copies. > zero-copy means "zero copy-operations within memory" To an MCSE, maybe. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:37:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mango-bay.com (mail.mango-bay.com [208.206.15.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB9A37B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from barbish ([63.70.155.75]) by mail.mango-bay.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52377U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:41:48 -0500 From: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" To: "Thomas Salmon" Cc: "FBSD" Subject: RE: observing ppp Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:37:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020217182418.00ba5430@pop.gmx.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cat /var/log/ppp.log | grep CONNECT If your modem hardware has verbose return codes turned on this will work, otherwise use Hayes at commands to load the factory default settings AT&F0&W0&Y0 into modem hardware. 0=zero -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Thomas Salmon Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:39 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: observing ppp I'am running Freebsd 4.5 on a gateway. My dsl-connection is established with the ppp-Modul. ppp runs with the options "auto" and "nat". What i'd like to know is: how do i know if a connection is established and wether ppp is doing nat on the interface? thanks for your answer Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:40:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mustard.heime.net (mustard.heime.net [194.234.65.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D60337B400; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (roy@localhost) by mustard.heime.net (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g1HIdd406538; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:39:39 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:39:39 +0100 (CET) From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk X-Sender: To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Thomas Hurst , , , Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > sendfile() isn't zero-copy, it's just two-less-copies. > > zero-copy means "zero copy-operations within memory" > > To an MCSE, maybe. strange ... It's interesting that Dr. Scient Paal Halvorsen that recently finished his thesis about the subject 'Memory buffering / caching in multimedia streaming systems'. This has the following description The INSTANCE operating system enhancements show great improvements for multimedia streaming. In this thesis, we want to look at buffering/caching/prefetching mechanisms suitable for multimedia streams combined with the INSTANCE zero-copy data path. See http://www.ifi.uio.no/~paalh/index2.html for more info hm Am I an idiot here or have someone else misunderstood? -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA Computers are like air conditioners. They stop working when you open Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:41:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673ED37B483; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020217184023.XVYG2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:40:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA46907; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:27:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:27:06 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Dominic Marks Cc: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, jdp@polstra.com Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <20020217145935.A1481@host213-123-129-40.in-addr.btop> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG there is one. Written by jdp@freebsd.org I think it's proprietary but maybe not.. (CC'd) On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Dominic Marks wrote: > Hey, > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:33:43AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > hi all, > > > > [ I am not currently subscribed to -questions, please CC a copy to > > me, thanks. :) ] > > > > I beleive this question is not intended for the -hackers list, > > but might be interesting. I have also cc'ed this to the > > -questions list. > > > > Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is > > kHTTPD for Linux? > > Ive never seen or heard of one, at least not one available to the > general public. Services should be executed in the user space, thats > what its for. Cross-polluting these user/kernel environments is to be > discouraged. > > Thats my opinion anyway. > > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > > > -- Hiten Pandya > > -- > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > > http://sports.yahoo.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > -- > Dominic > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 10:51: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D4A37B402; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 130D05341; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:51:01 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk Cc: Thomas Hurst , , , Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 17 Feb 2002 19:51:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk writes: > > > > sendfile() isn't zero-copy, it's just two-less-copies. > > > zero-copy means "zero copy-operations within memory" > > To an MCSE, maybe. > strange ... > [...] So what would you call direct DMA from the disk controller to the network adapter? Minus-one-copy? And even in the sendfile(2) case, data sometimes *is* copied in-core to satisfy alignment requirements etc. Stop using buzzwords just because they give you a woody. (and yes, even a Dr. Scient can be mistaken. Papers don't make you smart, you know - though I wouldn't expect someone who brags about being an MCSE and MCNE to understand that) DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 11: 1:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13402.mail.yahoo.com (web13402.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D81537B416 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:01:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020217190102.89291.qmail@web13402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.67.136.178] by web13402.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:01:02 PST Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:01:02 -0800 (PST) From: Gerardo Joven Subject: Orinoco RG-1100 + Orinoco Cards To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello there: What I want to do: Share Internet via Orinoco RG-1100 with Orinoco cards (one Silver and one Gold) using Windows XP as the server. Windows XP is the server (damn USB modem) running ICS. Server configuration is all fine because I'm writing this mail as a client BUT on Windows. Now, lets go to the FreeBSD part. I'm running FreeBSD 4.5. PCCARD support is there and starts at boot. WI recognizes my card and gives no errors. Lets go to wicontrol now. First of all, should I use AD-HOC (which is mode 3 on wincontrol) or BSS mode (1)? I read wi and wicontrol man pages. I understood I gotta use BSS if Im using an Access Point ( A Residential Gateway works just as an access point, doesnt it?) but the signal light on the card won't turn on, it turns on when I choose ad-hoc. My RG has a "Network Name" at the bottom of it which I had to specify on Windows 98 (XP detected the RG) to I could connect to it. Do I need to specify that name with the -n option on wicontrol (wicontrol -i wi0 -n 394876)? Or isnt that necessary? Last, I wondered how to save the wicontrol options so they wont get reseted each time and I figured out to put them on pccard.conf BUT there is a small problem, all gets setted correctly but 1 thing. After I boot the machine with the pccard.conf already configured, i get the following: # wicontrol -i wi0 CURRENT NETWORK NAME [ FreeBSD Lucent Card] DESIRED NETWORK NAME [ 394876 ] How can I make my desired network name, be my network name? I mean, just in case I need to specify it. The 394876 name i typed in there is my RG's Network Name at the bottom, remember? Someone could help me pls?? If you need more info i will provide it ASAP Thanks in advance, Alcachofo Demv __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 11: 4: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from acl.lanl.gov (acl.lanl.gov [128.165.147.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A12C37B417 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:03:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1705325 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 12:03:53 -0700 Received: from xed.acl.lanl.gov (128.165.147.191) by acl.lanl.gov with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 12:03:53 -0700 Received: (qmail 5223 invoked by uid 3499); 17 Feb 2002 12:03:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 12:03:53 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:03:53 -0700 (MST) From: Ronald G Minnich X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17 Feb 2002, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk writes: > > > sendfile() isn't zero-copy, it's just two-less-copies. > > zero-copy means "zero copy-operations within memory" > > To an MCSE, maybe. I think Roy is right. AFAIK the term "zero copy" was invented by Van Jacobsen ca. 1990 to describe an optimized TCP stack he had working with the Witless interface project he did with HP, while he was still at LBL. Witless was an FDDI interface with interesting properties -- still well worth studying today. And, there was one copy in the TCP for Witless. You had to read "zero copy" to mean "Zero copies more than the absolute minimum". When we did the MINI interface at the SRC (ca. 1994), which had one less copy than Witless, we jokingly called it a "-1 copy" interface. ron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 11: 8:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25A237B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:08:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from DrdeHaerne@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id n.7c.23136e42 (5712) for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from web46.aolmail.aol.com (web46.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.7]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v83.35) with ESMTP id MAILINID45-0217140844; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:08:44 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:08:44 EST From: DrdeHaerne@aol.com Subject: make.conf, proxy and ports To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <7c.23136e42.29a159bc@aol.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, I just set up a new system with FBSD 4.5 behind a proxy server/firewall and I'm having a real pain getting ports installed. I followed logic and created /etc/make.conf with the following lines: $ cat /etc/make.conf | grep _PROXY FTP_PROXY= 10.100.10.100:1080 HTTP_PROXY= 10.100.10.100:3128 Those being the addresses of my proxies of course. All other machines that use the proxies work fine - ftp, ssh, http, whatever I need it works. I'll admit though, all of those machines are windows and this is the first time I set up a fbsd machine behind the proxy. Anyhow, even with the changes in the make.conf file, when I go to a port and run make, the machine still tries to make a direct connection (with fetch of course) instead of going through the proxy. I know this because I'm looking a tcp traffic logs while trying to install. So why aren't the ports using the make.conf proxy setting? In past experiences it always read it fine - well just for the USA_RESIDENT option. the make.conf on the machine in question only has the proxy lines (+usa resident and force register), and the proxy server is set up to accept connections from my new fbsd box. Sorry for the long question, but I just wanted to be clear. any help would be really appreciated, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 11: 9:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probsd.ws (ilm25-53-085.ec.rr.com [24.25.53.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C7B37B420 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by probsd.ws (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1HJAR900379 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:10:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd) Message-Id: <200202171910.g1HJAR900379@probsd.ws> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Michael Sharp To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: apache13 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:10:27 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just installed the apache13 port on a fresh install 4.5-RELEASE box and all went fine. However, when starting 'sh /usr/local/etc/rc.d apache.sh start' I get error: Unable to Determine the PREFIX The Daemon wont start with apachectl or with /usr/sbin/httpd either. Anyone else having this problem on 4.5? michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 11:15:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mustard.heime.net (mustard.heime.net [194.234.65.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E1837B416; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (roy@localhost) by mustard.heime.net (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g1HJFDR06658; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:15:13 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:15:13 +0100 (CET) From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk X-Sender: To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Thomas Hurst , , , Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > So what would you call direct DMA from the disk controller to the > network adapter? Minus-one-copy? And even in the sendfile(2) case, > data sometimes *is* copied in-core to satisfy alignment requirements > etc. Stop using buzzwords just because they give you a woody. buzzwords or whatever - I really dont care. But can you please point at *one* application/system/whatever that is using HDD->NIC DMA? > (and yes, even a Dr. Scient can be mistaken. Papers don't make you > smart, you know - though I wouldn't expect someone who brags about > being an MCSE and MCNE to understand that) er.. So - if you certify within a product, you'll probably become dumber? Grow up -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA Computers are like air conditioners. They stop working when you open Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 11:40:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F6B37B425 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:40:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.12.2/2002020400) with ESMTP id g1HJeWj07675; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:40:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uni-sb.de (IDENT:by5e5S6xS9nFv//qVV2xcKYG/nCaalqo@mail.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.200]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.12.1/2001121800) with ESMTP id g1HJeWs12084; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:40:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de (wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.247.42]) by mail.cs.uni-sb.de (8.12.2/2002011500) with ESMTP id g1HJeUO04818; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:40:30 +0100 (CET) Received: (from schuerge@localhost) by wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de (8.11.0/8.11.0/wjp-SVR4/1999052600) id g1HJeUO02195; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:40:30 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Schuerger Message-Id: <200202171940.g1HJeUO02195@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de> Subject: Re: make.conf, proxy and ports In-Reply-To: <7c.23136e42.29a159bc@aol.com> from "DrdeHaerne@aol.com" at "Feb 17, 2002 02:08:44 pm" To: DrdeHaerne@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:40:30 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL57 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > hi, > > I just set up a new system with FBSD 4.5 behind a proxy server/firewall and I'm having a real pain getting ports installed. > > I followed logic and created /etc/make.conf with the following lines: > > $ cat /etc/make.conf | grep _PROXY > FTP_PROXY= 10.100.10.100:1080 > HTTP_PROXY= 10.100.10.100:3128 Try using FTP_PROXY= http://10.100.10.100:1080 (http is correct here) HTTP_PROXY= http://10.100.10.100:3128 instead. I didn't put those environment variables in make.conf on my machine though. I used setenv FTP_PROXY http://server:port setenv HTTP_PROXY http://server:port in my .tcshrc file. But it should work fine in make.conf, too. Greetings, Thomas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 11:45: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EDAB37B405 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:44:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2319 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 19:44:45 -0000 Received: from dap-209-166-133-2.nfas.greensburg-tnt-2.sns234.pa.stargate.net (HELO wastegate.net) (209.166.133.2) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 19:44:45 -0000 Received: from mother.wastegate.net (mother.wg.local [192.168.1.2]) by wastegate.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 088C04844F; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:45:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Doug Reynolds" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" , "Michael Sharp" Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:47:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Doug Reynolds" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2380) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <200202171910.g1HJAR900379@probsd.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: apache13 Message-Id: <20020217194556.088C04844F@wastegate.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:10:27 -0500, Michael Sharp wrote: >I just installed the apache13 port on a fresh install 4.5-RELEASE box and all >went fine. However, when starting 'sh /usr/local/etc/rc.d apache.sh start' > >I get error: Unable to Determine the PREFIX > >The Daemon wont start with apachectl or with /usr/sbin/httpd either. > >Anyone else having this problem on 4.5? nope- sounds like you have a configuration errors, or it can't find an address to bind to. is your hostname is /etc/hosts? --- doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 6E7B 9993 B503 6D45 E33A 2019 26E5 C1DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 11:56: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1106B37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27297 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 19:55:53 -0000 Received: from dap-209-166-133-2.nfas.greensburg-tnt-2.sns234.pa.stargate.net (HELO wastegate.net) (209.166.133.2) by smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 19:55:53 -0000 Received: from mother.wastegate.net (mother.wg.local [192.168.1.2]) by wastegate.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B83448449; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:56:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Doug Reynolds" To: "FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" , "Robert Tsay" Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:58:56 -0500 Reply-To: "Doug Reynolds" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2380) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FE promiscuous mode? Message-Id: <20020217195659.0B83448449@wastegate.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:36:10 -0800 (PST), Robert Tsay wrote: >Anyone know what happened about this? > >host/kernel: fxp0: promiscuous mode enabled >host/kernel: fxp0: promiscuous mode disabled where you using tcpdump? I believe it enables it to snoop all packets and then disables when done promiscuous mode just allows the interface to read all packets on the network --- doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 6E7B 9993 B503 6D45 E33A 2019 26E5 C1DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 11:58:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FF0637B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:58:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23581 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 19:58:19 -0000 Received: from dap-209-166-133-2.nfas.greensburg-tnt-2.sns234.pa.stargate.net (HELO wastegate.net) (209.166.133.2) by smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 19:58:19 -0000 Received: from mother.wastegate.net (mother.wg.local [192.168.1.2]) by wastegate.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D5DF48449; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:59:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Doug Reynolds" To: "Alain Fabry" , "cjclark@alum.mit.edu" , "Crist J. Clark" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:01:31 -0500 Reply-To: "Doug Reynolds" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2380) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <20020215182653.Y36782@blossom.cjclark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Beginner's question - Network problem Message-Id: <20020217195934.5D5DF48449@wastegate.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:26:53 -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: >On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 02:46:08AM +0100, Alain Fabry wrote: >> It's a Intel EtherExpress Pro 10+ ISA card > >[snip] > >> ex: WARNING: board's EEPROM is configured for IRQ 0, using 5 >> ex0: at port 0x200-0x20f iomem 0xcc000-0xcffff irq 5 on isa0 >> ex0: PnP config, 16-bit bus, board id 0xfff, stepping 0xf >> ex0: Ethernet address ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff > >Not good. Have you tried disabling PnP in your BIOS? if I can recall correctly, that board can be either PnP or jumperless. download the dos program from intel, and set the board to where you want it. PnP is great for PCI, but sucks for ISA, imho. I've done this with all my isa network cards and never had a problem with freebsd or any other OS for that matter. --- doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 6E7B 9993 B503 6D45 E33A 2019 26E5 C1DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12: 1: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29C5537B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:01:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26843 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 20:00:57 -0000 Received: from dap-209-166-133-2.nfas.greensburg-tnt-2.sns234.pa.stargate.net (HELO wastegate.net) (209.166.133.2) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 20:00:57 -0000 Received: from mother.wastegate.net (mother.wg.local [192.168.1.2]) by wastegate.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 144944844F; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:02:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Doug Reynolds" To: "Noone Here" , "Steven Lake" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:04:20 -0500 Reply-To: "Doug Reynolds" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2380) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cablemodem bandwidth sharing (2 cablemodems) Message-Id: <20020217200223.144944844F@wastegate.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:15:48 -0600 (CST), Steven Lake wrote: > Now if someone knows a way to get the server on the far end to >split the data transfer and send it half and half via the two lines, that >would be awesome. But most likely you'd have to get your provider to bind >the two connections together on their end so that the data flow was split >at the gateway and then rejoined on your side. That works, but not many >providers I know go for that. Unless you wanna back some big $$$. I am not sure if this will work, but did you ever try round robin DNS configuration? it is sorta a make shift load-balancing deal, dont know if it'd work for that though. --- doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 6E7B 9993 B503 6D45 E33A 2019 26E5 C1DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12: 7: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98FB037B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15388 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 20:06:52 -0000 Received: from dap-209-166-133-2.nfas.greensburg-tnt-2.sns234.pa.stargate.net (HELO wastegate.net) (209.166.133.2) by smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 20:06:52 -0000 Received: from mother.wastegate.net (mother.wg.local [192.168.1.2]) by wastegate.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D753A4844F; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:08:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Doug Reynolds" To: "Cliff Sarginson" , "FreeBSD List" Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:10:23 -0500 Reply-To: "Doug Reynolds" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2380) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <20020216075519.GE4963@raggedclown.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: USB modems Message-Id: <20020217200825.D753A4844F@wastegate.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:55:19 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: >Hello, >There was recently a short interchange on this list concerning >USB modems. Re-reading it I am not sure I can draw any conclusion. > >Are USB modems sometimes/always/never winmodems ? from what I've gathered, yes, always. it seems they don't use AT commands either. glad I have 3 56k externel _serial_ USR Sportsters :) --- doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 6E7B 9993 B503 6D45 E33A 2019 26E5 C1DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12:11:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts17.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C836B37B43A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([209.226.240.120]) by tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020217201133.WTJE10641.tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:11:33 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Pierre-Luc Drouin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Setup of HP LaserJet 1200 on USB: can get ugen0 but not ulpt0 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:08:55 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020217201133.WTJE10641.tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying ton configure an HP LaserJet 1200 printer on usb In my kernel, i've: device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ulpt # Printer Device ulpt0 exist in /dev/ In dmesg, i get /kernel: usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support /kernel: usb0: on ohci0 /kernel: uhub0: AcerLabs OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 /kernel: uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered /kernel: ugen0: HewLett Packard HP LaserJet 1200, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2 but when i try to configure apsfilter with ulpt0 or anything else, it says than ulpt0 is not configured. It seems than FreeBSD detects my printer like any other usb device, but doesn't recognize that it's a printer. What can i do with it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12:13:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15BFE37B405 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14207 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 20:13:36 -0000 Received: from dap-209-166-133-2.nfas.greensburg-tnt-2.sns234.pa.stargate.net (HELO wastegate.net) (209.166.133.2) by smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 20:13:36 -0000 Received: from mother.wastegate.net (mother.wg.local [192.168.1.2]) by wastegate.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EE84248449; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Doug Reynolds" To: "questions@freebsd.org" , "ycardena@computer.org" , "Yonny Cardenas B." Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:17:07 -0500 Reply-To: "Doug Reynolds" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2380) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <20020216191255.80994.qmail@web14201.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: I can't Install 4.5 on Dell Inspiron 2500 Message-Id: <20020217201510.EE84248449@wastegate.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:12:55 -0800 (PST), Yonny Cardenas B. wrote: > >Hi > >I try to install FreeBSD 4.5 on Laptop Dell Inspiron 2500 but program install fail when it probes the hardware. > >What I can do ? first start by going into userconfig when the machine boot and disabling everything you don't have. that generally works for me --- doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 6E7B 9993 B503 6D45 E33A 2019 26E5 C1DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12:18:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ryu.zighelboim.com (ryu.zighelboim.com [204.251.1.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC7737B405 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:18:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from shame (DA.zighelboim.com [204.251.1.171]) (authenticated) by ryu.zighelboim.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1HKIBG06138 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO) for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:18:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from raul@zighelboim.com) From: "Raul Zighelboim" To: Subject: Clock running too fast ? Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:18:12 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello there; I setup a system with -Current and an AMD-K6 3D processor. I noticed that the clock was running (about twice the speed of time :-) I used sysctl to change kern.timecounter.hardware from ACPI to i8254 and now all is well. Even the kernel: microuptime() went backwards (2855.058761 -> 2850.689019) messages are gone. Questions: Is there a variable on the kernel to force kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254 ? What is going on ? thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12:18:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B6A37B416 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:18:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020217201824.ZVTY2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:18:24 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1HKINC32240; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:18:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:18:22 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Thomas Schuerger Cc: DrdeHaerne@aol.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make.conf, proxy and ports Message-ID: <20020217121822.R48401@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <7c.23136e42.29a159bc@aol.com> <200202171940.g1HJeUO02195@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200202171940.g1HJeUO02195@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de>; from schuerge@wjpserver.CS.Uni-SB.DE on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 08:40:30PM +0100 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 08:40:30PM +0100, Thomas Schuerger wrote: > [Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > hi, > > > > I just set up a new system with FBSD 4.5 behind a proxy server/firewall and I'm having a real pain getting ports installed. > > > > I followed logic and created /etc/make.conf with the following lines: > > > > $ cat /etc/make.conf | grep _PROXY > > FTP_PROXY= 10.100.10.100:1080 > > HTTP_PROXY= 10.100.10.100:3128 > > Try using > > FTP_PROXY= http://10.100.10.100:1080 (http is correct here) > HTTP_PROXY= http://10.100.10.100:3128 > > instead. Actually, try using, FETCH_ENV= FTP_PROXY=ftp://10.100.10.100:1080 HTTP_PROXY=http://10.100.10.100:3128 If you actually want it to work. I guess no one else is going to fix etc/defaults/make.conf now that it is depricated. Just have to do it myself. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12:22: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web21006.mail.yahoo.com (web21006.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7337637B41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:21:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020217202144.1110.qmail@web21006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.3.230.240] by web21006.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:21:44 GMT Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:21:44 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Matt=20Sykes?= Subject: CFLAGS should not apply to world or modules To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (4.5-stable) ... or there should be a separate PORTS_CFLAGS or WORLD_CFLAGS or whatever. If I want to set -O2 -march=pentiumpro for building XFree86, I don't necessarily want my 'ls' command optimized as such, especially since there are warnings that these optimizations can break things in the world. And these optimizations make little sense for kernel modules in all concievable cases. Yeah I could edit make.conf every time I build ports or the kernel/world, or always pass these flags explicitly at the command line etc., but that's annoying and a workaround for a setup which is Blatantly Incorrect. I see this discussed here and there, but the problem still persists. Why? --Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12:30:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kirk.dlee.org (66-61-162-235.mtc3.cox.rr.com [66.61.162.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE80F37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dgl@localhost) by kirk.dlee.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1HKU5b06604 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:30:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dgl) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:30:05 -0500 From: Doug Lee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Recommended answering machine software? Message-ID: <20020217203005.GH1069@kirk.dlee.org> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Lee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Organization: Bartimaeus Group Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd like to run something under FreeBSD 4.4/4.5 which can make my FreeBSD box act as an answering machine: answer calls, play an outgoing message (presumably a .wav or similar file), and take messages. It would be nice if it also could understand DTMF codes and do different things according to them, like allow messages to be maintained for multiple people. Whether or not it's part of the system, I also intend to cause the message files to be e-mailed appropriately on receipt. Finally, I'm hoping this system will be compatible (with or without a little shell/Perl programming) with mgetty+sendfax, which I already run. Currently, I can't dial into mgetty+sendfax unless I disable my answering machine in advance. I skimmed through ports but didn't find a clear winner for this type of application. I'm also not sure what specific hardware I'd need (I assume not just any modem will do :-), and I suspect this will be dependent on what software I use. Any suggestions welcome. -- Doug Lee dgl@visi.com http://www.visi.com/~dgl Bartimaeus Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com "Liberty comes in boxes: ballot, jury, and ammo." -Anonymous To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12:31:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mdv.dhs.org (mdv.xs4all.nl [213.84.209.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DAE37B42A; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mdv.dhs.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1HKUYB02016; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:30:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mdevries@haveityourway.nl) Received: from marcel.haveityourway.nl (marcel.mdv.int [192.168.1.3]) by mdv.dhs.org (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id g1HKUWn02009; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:30:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mdevries@haveityourway.nl) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020217212523.00b793d0@outshine> X-Sender: mdevries@outshine X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:30:26 +0100 To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk , Dag-Erling Smorgrav From: Marcel de Vries Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Cc: Thomas Hurst , , , In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As far as I can see about publishing your Product Status is really immature you know. To be posting this in a open source community is be asking for an confrontation. It is not about being smart of dump, to keep in track and learning the beauty of technology but even to make bigger sense in a way this community helps each other the best way is to cut the Status crap at the end of your signature. Enjoy your Certifcates on the wall in your living room in a private manner you know what I mean? . But bragging about that stuff in your mail is not a way to earn respect. I really dislike to see this beef, I respect you and I'm proud for your achievements but for the future keep it low profile, or else it would only be used against you. And can somebody please help me with the no buffer space problem I posted yesterday ;-) Should I say more? Marcel de Vries, Swim Diploma, Firt Aid, And I don't give a F##K At 20:15 17-02-2002 +0100, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > > So what would you call direct DMA from the disk controller to the > > network adapter? Minus-one-copy? And even in the sendfile(2) case, > > data sometimes *is* copied in-core to satisfy alignment requirements > > etc. Stop using buzzwords just because they give you a woody. > >buzzwords or whatever - I really dont care. > >But can you please point at *one* application/system/whatever that is >using HDD->NIC DMA? > > > (and yes, even a Dr. Scient can be mistaken. Papers don't make you > > smart, you know - though I wouldn't expect someone who brags about > > being an MCSE and MCNE to understand that) > >er.. So - if you certify within a product, you'll probably become dumber? > >Grow up > >-- >Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA > >Computers are like air conditioners. >They stop working when you open Windows. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12:36:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx01-a.netapp.com (mx01-a.netapp.com [198.95.226.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A6137B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:36:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from frejya.corp.netapp.com (frejya [10.10.20.91]) by mx01-a.netapp.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/NTAP-1.2) with ESMTP id g1HKZt323576; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from orbit-fe.eng (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frejya.corp.netapp.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/NTAP-1.4) with ESMTP id g1HKZtJQ016378; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kmacy@localhost) by orbit-fe.eng (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g1HKZbs02838; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:35:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:35:37 -0800 (PST) From: Kip Macy To: Marcel de Vries Cc: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Thomas Hurst , hiten@uk.freebsd.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020217212523.00b793d0@outshine> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can we move the personal slights off of -hackers? This is extraordinarily unprofessional. If you need to do this in a public forum, do it on -chat. On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Marcel de Vries wrote: > As far as I can see about publishing your Product Status is really immature > you know. > To be posting this in a open source community is be asking for an > confrontation. > > It is not about being smart of dump, to keep in track and learning the > beauty of technology but even to make bigger sense in a way this community > helps each other the best way is to cut the Status crap at the end of your > signature. > > Enjoy your Certifcates on the wall in your living room in a private manner > you know what I mean? . But bragging about that stuff in your mail is not a > way to earn respect. > > I really dislike to see this beef, I respect you and I'm proud for your > achievements but for the future keep it low profile, or else it would only > be used against you. > > And can somebody please help me with the no buffer space problem I posted > yesterday ;-) > > Should I say more? > > Marcel de Vries, Swim Diploma, Firt Aid, And I don't give a F##K > > > > At 20:15 17-02-2002 +0100, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > > > So what would you call direct DMA from the disk controller to the > > > network adapter? Minus-one-copy? And even in the sendfile(2) case, > > > data sometimes *is* copied in-core to satisfy alignment requirements > > > etc. Stop using buzzwords just because they give you a woody. > > > >buzzwords or whatever - I really dont care. > > > >But can you please point at *one* application/system/whatever that is > >using HDD->NIC DMA? > > > > > (and yes, even a Dr. Scient can be mistaken. Papers don't make you > > > smart, you know - though I wouldn't expect someone who brags about > > > being an MCSE and MCNE to understand that) > > > >er.. So - if you certify within a product, you'll probably become dumber? > > > >Grow up > > > >-- > >Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, MCSE, MCNE, CLS, LCA > > > >Computers are like air conditioners. > >They stop working when you open Windows. > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12:46:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A6B237B41E for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 635 invoked by uid 100); 17 Feb 2002 20:46:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15472.5792.116564.796409@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:46:24 -0600 To: "Mark Tamola" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Printer Problem In-Reply-To: <50212691@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: "Mike Meyer" X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.46 (Python 2.2; freebsd-4.5-STABLE-i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Tamola types: > I have a Canon BJC-2110 USB printer. > ulpt0: Canon BJC-2100, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 3, iclass 7/1 That's a good thing. It means the system recognizes it as a USB printer, and the data will be delivered to it. > When I do a "lptest > /dev/ulpt0" there is no response from the printer. I > know the printer works under Windows 2000. Are there any other things I > missed or any suggestions on how I may get this printer up and running under > FreeBSD 4.5? Thanks! Could it be a WinPrinter? That means you can't send it ASCII text and have it print, but have to render the text as a page of graphics in the language understood by the printer, and send that to it instead. If so, the only real hope is that there is a driver for it for ghostscript. If you search the archives for this list, there are pointers to a web page that lists WinPrinters, and their status. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 12:50:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FB5137B41C for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 706 invoked by uid 100); 17 Feb 2002 20:50:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15472.6030.263277.983397@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:50:22 -0600 To: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is apache13-fp port broken? In-Reply-To: <125726394@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: "Mike Meyer" X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.46 (Python 2.2; freebsd-4.5-STABLE-i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe & Fhe Barbish types: > Just tried to install apache13-fp port. > The install went fine until fp50.freebsd.tar.Z completed > downloading. While the process was trying to install, > it issued the following messages. [...] > /version5.0/set_default_perms.sh > ===> Patching for frontpage-5.0.2.2623_1 > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for frontpage-5.0.2.2623_1 > No file to patch. Skipping... > 13 out of 13 hunks ignored--saving rejects to fp_install.sh.rej > >> Patch patch-fp_install.sh failed to apply cleanly. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/ports/www/frontpage. > *** Error code 1 > To me this looks like the apache13-fp port is broken. > Has any body been able to install this port during the > last 2 weeks? 2/2/02 - 02/16/02 To me this looks like you've got out of date patch files in the port. If that's indeed the case, other ports will have the problem as well. The solution is to remove (or just mv) the ports tree, and re-cvsup it. Even if the port is broken, it may be fixed in the cvs repository, so re-cvsuping it is recommended. If it's still broken after that, do "make maintainer" in the port, and send a note to the email address that it prints about the problem. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 13: 1:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5FAF37B405 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 782 invoked by uid 100); 17 Feb 2002 21:01:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15472.6679.951226.877318@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:01:11 -0600 To: "Pierre-Luc Drouin" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setup HP LaserJet 1200 on usb: get ugen0 but not ulpt0 In-Reply-To: <35506768@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: "Mike Meyer" X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.46 (Python 2.2; freebsd-4.5-STABLE-i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Pierre-Luc Drouin types: > I'm unable to get ulpt0 for my printer in dmesg. > > -Option ulpt is activated in my kernel > -I get ugen0 in dmesg > -ulpt0 exists in /dev/ > > When i try to configure apsfilter or anything with ulpt0, it says than > the device is not configured. > > dmesg: > usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > usb0: on ohci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: AcerLabs OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > ugen0: HewLett Packard HP LaserJet 1200, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2 > > What can i do? Make absolutely sure you're running a kernel with the ulpt code compiled into it. If that is the case, then you're probably going to have to start working on the driver source in /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/ulpt.c In particular, USB_MATCH(ulpt) walks through the description of the USB device making sure it's a printer that speaks one of the protocols that the ulpt driver supports. Check to see why that's failing, and if how it will do on any tests that may not be making. You can then try assuming that the printer's USB support is broken, and tweak the driver so the printer passes the test and see how things go. On the other hand, you may have a printer that connects via USB, but doesn't follow the USB standards for printers, or doesn't support any of the protocols that ulpt needs. In which case, things are going to be noticably harder. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 13: 5:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 997D337B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:05:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 838 invoked by uid 100); 17 Feb 2002 21:05:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15472.6948.82917.622768@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:05:40 -0600 To: mess-mate Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upsd problems In-Reply-To: <89519867@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: "Mike Meyer" X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.46 (Python 2.2; freebsd-4.5-STABLE-i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mess-mate types: > Hello all, > After my first install of FBSD I have following pb : > (of course fonfigured the kernel before the install) > in console there are continuing messages (on stdout) like > 'upsd[226]: write port : cannot write to /dev/cuaa0 : Resource=20 > temporarily unavailable'. > 'upsd[226]: cannot put the UPS in smart mode' > So, I thought this is a pb with my mouse and disabled the mouse in=20 > /etc/rc.conf. > Nothing helps. > There is no way to eventually recompile the kernel with all this=20 > messages on the screen. > Are there maybe other services I have to disabling ? > Thanks for your help. First, do an "fstat /dev/cuaa0", and see if a process name falls out. If so, you've got to figure out why that process is using cuaa0, and what to do about it. If no process has /dev/cuaa0 open, then check /var/log/lock to see if there's an LCK..cuaa0 in it, and delete it if so. That will fix the problem. If no process has it open and there's no lock file, then you're up against something else. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 13:29:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ra.sigterm.com (sangui.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.16.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 292F037B416 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:29:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 39355 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 21:29:48 -0000 Received: from osiris.sigterm.com (203.47.187.211) by ra.sigterm.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 21:29:48 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:29:57 +1100 From: Stuart Tanner To: Dale Morris Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing question Message-ID: <20020218082957.A929@osiris.sigterm.com> References: <20020217073925.A223@lymond.lvcablemodem.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20020217073925.A223@lymond.lvcablemodem.com>; from dlm@well.com on Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 02:39:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.3.0 Lines: 57 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002.02.18 02:39 Dale Morris wrote: > freebsd version 4.5 > epson stylus color 600 printer > > > I'm new to freebsd from the debian/redhat/slackware world and I want > to > get printing working in freebsd. I thought I had it with apsfilter but > when I tried to print a test file with abiword, the output was.. > > %!PS-Adobe-2.0 > %%Creator Abiword > %%Title /usr/home/dlm/abiword_test.abw > %%Orientation: Portrait > %%DocumentPaperSizes: Letter > %%DocumentNeededResources font NimbusRomNo9L-Regu font > NimbusRomNo9L-Regu > %%EndComments > %%BeginProlog > /FSF {findfont exch scalefont} bind def > .....etc................. This indicates that you don't have apsfilter setup correctly. It should have passed the text above to GhostScript for conversion to a format suitable for your particular printer. You should revisit the apsfilter SETUP script and check that you have configured it to use GhostScript with the correct driver for you printer. > > What I would like to do is set up cups. I did the 'make install clean' > in the relevant ports directories, but when I try to setup my printer > using the http://localhost:631/admin command, I get the error that > Netscape is unable to locate the localhost:631 > > I guess my questions are: > > How do I remove/disable lpd? Edit /etc/rc.conf and add the following line (or change it from "YES" to "NO"): lpd_enable="NO" > How do I install cups? cd /usr/ports/print/cups make all install clean > Do I have to reconfigure any file permissions? Don't know. > > thanks > dale > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 13:58:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nwlynx.network-lynx.net (nwlynx.network-lynx.net [63.122.185.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558E437B416; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:57:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from Silver-Lynx.com (fly.network-lynx.net [63.122.185.98]) by nwlynx.network-lynx.net (8.11.1/8.9.3/Who.Cares) with ESMTP id g1HLwG194191; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:58:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from Don@Silver-Lynx.com) Message-ID: <3C702748.1826FAF5@Silver-Lynx.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:57:28 -0700 From: Don Wilde Organization: Silver Lynx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD in school networks - interested? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have an active project in a middle school in Albuquerque where we teach the kids digital logic, BSD, Linux and how to think for themselves. Our PC instruction happens mostly on FreeBSD because those of us who are active are BSD-oriented, but we sometimes get assistance from our NMLUG Linux guys. As it is now, we have 2-3 guys at the school every Friday morning, and we've gotten substantial donations from other geeks and from some of the parents. The school people are absolutely blown sky-high by this, but they know it's good and they're bending over backward to help make it happen. See http://www.meta-learn.com for details and mailing lists. -- Don Wilde http://www.Silver-Lynx.com Silver Lynx Embedded Microsystems Architects 2218 Southern Bl. Ste. 12 Rio Rancho, NM 87124 505-891-4175 FAX 891-4185 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 14:10:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netizen.co.za (situs.netizen.co.za [209.61.189.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A178337B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:10:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from evrtwa1-ar4-190-174.evrtwa1.dsl.gtei.net ([4.34.190.174] helo=gramroam.bradygirl.com) by mail.netizen.co.za with asmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16cZWK-000GQk-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:10:57 -0600 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020217140408.02a208b0@situs2.netizen.co.za> X-Sender: gram@situs2.netizen.co.za X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:11:03 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Graham Wheeler Subject: lpd not reading printcap? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I am having problems getting remote printing to work. I've done this many times before successfully, and can't understand why I am now having problems. I have a very simple /etc/printcap file, along the lines of: lprem:rm=printserv:sh:sf:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs When I start up lpd, I get two log messages: lpd: Cannot open /dev/lp: No such file or directory If I try to print to lprem, using "lp -d lprem", I get a message saying the printer is not known. If I just use lp without a -d argument, the file gets queued, but lpd again complains of being unable to open /dev/lp. If I make a link from /dev/lp to /dev/lpt0, then an lpc status tells me that the printer may be offline. In short, it appears that the /etc/printcap file is being ignored by lpd, and it is defaulting to /dev/lp. I'm running 4.5S, last cvsupped about 2 weeks ago. Any ideas, anyone? gram To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 14:17:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ra.sigterm.com (sangui.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.16.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EED437B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 40169 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 22:17:06 -0000 Received: from osiris.sigterm.com (203.47.187.211) by ra.sigterm.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 22:17:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 09:17:16 +1100 From: Stuart Tanner To: Graham Wheeler Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lpd not reading printcap? Message-ID: <20020218091716.C929@osiris.sigterm.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020217140408.02a208b0@situs2.netizen.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020217140408.02a208b0@situs2.netizen.co.za>; from gram@bradygirl.com on Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 09:11:03 +1100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.3.0 Lines: 51 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002.02.18 09:11 Graham Wheeler wrote: > Hi all > > I am having problems getting remote printing to work. I've done this > many times before successfully, and can't understand why I am now > having problems. > > I have a very simple /etc/printcap file, along the lines of: > > lprem:rm=printserv:sh:sf:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs > > When I start up lpd, I get two log messages: > > lpd: Cannot open /dev/lp: No such file or directory > > If I try to print to lprem, using "lp -d lprem", I get a message > saying the printer is not known. > > If I just use lp without a -d argument, the file gets queued, but lpd > again complains of being unable to open /dev/lp. > > If I make a link from /dev/lp to /dev/lpt0, then an lpc status tells > me that the printer may be offline. > > In short, it appears that the /etc/printcap file is being ignored by > lpd, and it is defaulting to /dev/lp. > > I'm running 4.5S, last cvsupped about 2 weeks ago. > > Any ideas, anyone? You are not telling lpd which printer to use at the other end. You have listed the remote machine but you don't have a rp entry. hpljiii|HP LaserJet III:\ :sh:\ :rm=ra:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ra:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :rp=hpljiii:\ :if=/usr/local/libexec/psif: > gram > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Stuart Tanner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 14:37:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E5937B402; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:37:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0152.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.152] helo=mindspring.com) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16cZvf-0005WD-00; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:37:07 -0800 Message-ID: <3C703089.AD03554B@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:36:57 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Hurst Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <20020217163045.GB90303@voi.aagh.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Hurst wrote: > * Dag-Erling Smorgrav (des@ofug.org) wrote: > > Hiten Pandya writes: > > > Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is kHTTPD > > > for Linux? > > > > God forbid! Lots of hack value, sure, but not something you'd > > seriously consider for production use. > > Don't functions like FreeBSD's zero-copy sendfile() provide similar > performance benefits without the massive security issues? > > If the remaining speed "hog" of switching to userspace to process the > request itself is causing noticable bottlenecks, I think that's a sign > you need more Pentium than the service needs moving to the kernel :) Not actually. If you have followed the khttpd work at all, then you'll know that Ingo has actually done some admirable work in it. Basically, the entire fast path, including the TCP stack, is small enough that the whole thing fits into the CPU cache itself, without any cache misses. It's actually very fast, considering (there are ways to make it faster that are actually more applicable to the FreeBSD approach, and which would take Linux a lot of work, even if they started from the QLinux base). For static content, such as the images and other content minus the main (non-static) page itself, it's quite a significant win for "first hits", which comprise the majority of HTTP traffic. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 14:38:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rousse.spnet.net (rousse.spnet.net [212.50.0.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B385E37B439 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from d-s-v.rousse.spnet.net ([213.169.44.254] helo=d-s-v.mail.bg) by rousse.spnet.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 16cZnA-0001ZV-00 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:28:23 +0200 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020218002301.00b36fa8@mail.bg> X-Sender: d_s_v@mail.bg@mail.bg (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:27:41 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Damian Valev Subject: dial-up problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, I have a problem whit my dial-up in FreeBSD 4.5 Stable when I dial-in, this error acures spring up /* d-s-v:/etc# more /root/ppperror Feb 17 12:04:42 d-s-v ppp[182]: tun0: IPCP: myaddr 213.169.44.254 hisaddr = 212.50.0.97 Feb 17 12:04:42 d-s-v routed[73]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP ALLHOSTS: Can't assign requested address Feb 17 12:04:42 d-s-v /kernel: Feb 17 12:04:42 d-s-v routed[73]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP AL LHOSTS: Can't assig n requested address Feb 17 12:04:42 d-s-v routed[73]: setsockopt(IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP RIP): Can't assign requested address Feb 17 12:04:42 d-s-v /kernel: Feb 17 12:04:42 d-s-v routed[73]: setsockopt(IP_ADD_ME MBERSHIP RIP): Can' t assign requested address Feb 17 12:04:42 d-s-v routed[73]: ignore RTM_CHANGE without mask Feb 17 12:04:42 d-s-v /kernel: Feb 17 12:04:42 d-s-v routed[73]: ignore RTM_CHANGE wi thout mask Feb 17 12:04:42 d-s-v routed[73]: ignore RTM_CHANGE without mask */ after this drops the connection any ideas where can be te problem ? d_s_v /* Name: Damian Valev ICQ# 16905092 */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 14:40:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E6337B43F; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:40:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0152.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.152] helo=mindspring.com) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16cZyx-0001PM-00; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:40:31 -0800 Message-ID: <3C703154.91ED7FB4@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:40:20 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miguel Mendez Cc: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <20020217173609.A25030@energyhq.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Miguel Mendez wrote: > As others have pointed out, it may have big hacker value, but no one > would use it for anything serious. AFAIK there's no such thing for > FreeBSD, but one thing I remember, is that once the Linux kernel incorporated > the zero copy netowrking code, userland HTTP servicing like Tux saw it's > performance increase on par with khttpd, so it seems that's not worth to > run a http server in kernel space. First, livelock means that top end load on a khttpd will be higher than top end load on a user http, where there is so much interrupt traffic that the user space never gets to run. Actually, Alfred claims to be the first person to pre-load porn into the FreeBSD kernel, and his approach seriously predates the khttpd work. 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 14:47:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB99A37B417; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 971B0AE608; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:47:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:47:24 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Terry Lambert Cc: Miguel Mendez , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20020217224724.GL12136@elvis.mu.org> References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <20020217173609.A25030@energyhq.homeip.net> <3C703154.91ED7FB4@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C703154.91ED7FB4@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Terry Lambert [020217 14:41] wrote: > Miguel Mendez wrote: > > As others have pointed out, it may have big hacker value, but no one > > would use it for anything serious. AFAIK there's no such thing for > > FreeBSD, but one thing I remember, is that once the Linux kernel incorporated > > the zero copy netowrking code, userland HTTP servicing like Tux saw it's > > performance increase on par with khttpd, so it seems that's not worth to > > run a http server in kernel space. > > First, livelock means that top end load on a khttpd will be > higher than top end load on a user http, where there is so > much interrupt traffic that the user space never gets to run. > > Actually, Alfred claims to be the first person to pre-load > porn into the FreeBSD kernel, and his approach seriously > predates the khttpd work. 8-). Yes, preloading pron into the kernel does make it serve quite a bit faster. :) I basically made an API that allowed one to load and unload "objects" from the kernel then use a sendfile(2) like syscall to send them. I was servicing 5000 connections a second for 1x1 gifs or several thousand per second (saturating 100mbit) for larger images. I also used kqueue. The real problem is that most of the generic web servers available (as well as most commercial ones) just suck for handling IO and events. A well thought out design can give you quite a perf boost without needing to stick the _entire_ thing into the kernel. -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' Tax deductible donations for FreeBSD: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 15: 6:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C984337B404; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0152.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.152] helo=mindspring.com) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16caNb-0005Hx-00; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:06:00 -0800 Message-ID: <3C70374D.6F29869C@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:05:49 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominic Marks Cc: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: <20020217182721.C1481@host213-123-129-40.in-addr.btop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dominic Marks wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 07:15:10PM +0100, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > > > > Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is > > > > kHTTPD for Linux? > > > > > > God forbid! Lots of hack value, sure, but not something you'd > > > seriously consider for production use. > > > > well .. So let's turn the question upside-down, and ask "Is there a web > > server or -accelerator for FreeBSD with similar performance as with khttpd > > or Tux? > > Zeus is the best overall. A lot of people also seem to have good > performance from tHttpd and Boa. When you say 'similar performance' > how many Mbit/s can Tux achieve (for static and dynamic content > aggregated). The real figure of merit you should be looking for here is "requests per second" -- HTTP 1.1; if you measure 1.0 requests, you actually end up measuring connection per second, instead, which is not a real figure of merit. BTW: There's actually a couple of ways to get the average connections per second incredibly high -- on the order of 300,000 per second -- but they involve using techniques that are not really useful in real life, since over a certain level, your stall point moves to the number of simultaneous connections you can support vs. the 2 MSL for the TIME_WAIT. Any number over around 30,000 CPS is therefore a ramp-up number, and is not sustainable over a long duration. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 15: 8:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netizen.co.za (situs.netizen.co.za [209.61.189.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C9E37B419 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.netizen.co.za ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost) by mail.netizen.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16caQG-000GVX-00; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:08:44 -0600 To: Stuart Tanner , Graham Wheeler , Subject: Re: lpd not reading printcap? From: Graham Wheeler Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:08:44 CST Reply-To: Graham Wheeler X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Originating-Ip: [4.34.190.174] X-Mailer: NOCC v0.9.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stuart Tanner wrote : > On 2002.02.18 09:11 Graham Wheeler wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I am having problems getting remote printing to work. I've done this > > many times before successfully, and can't understand why I am now > > having problems. > > > > I have a very simple /etc/printcap file, along the lines of: > > > > lprem:rm=printserv:sh:sf:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs > > > > When I start up lpd, I get two log messages: > > > > lpd: Cannot open /dev/lp: No such file or directory > > > > If I try to print to lprem, using "lp -d lprem", I get a message > > saying the printer is not known. > > > > If I just use lp without a -d argument, the file gets queued, but lpd > > again complains of being unable to open /dev/lp. > > > > If I make a link from /dev/lp to /dev/lpt0, then an lpc status tells > > me that the printer may be offline. > > > > In short, it appears that the /etc/printcap file is being ignored by > > lpd, and it is defaulting to /dev/lp. > > > > I'm running 4.5S, last cvsupped about 2 weeks ago. > > > > Any ideas, anyone? > You are not telling lpd which printer to use at the other end. You > have listed the remote machine but you don't have a rp entry. > > hpljiii|HP LaserJet III:\ > :sh:\ > :rm=ra:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ra:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :rp=hpljiii:\ > :if=/usr/local/libexec/psif: You're right; I had forgotten that this is needed even if the remote printer is named lp. It's been a while. I used the example for a remote printer given in the default /etc/printcap; it is also missing the rp field so its a poor example. Thanks Gram To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 15:20:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3D737B404; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0152.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.152] helo=mindspring.com) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16cab7-0007R7-00; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:19:58 -0800 Message-ID: <3C703A92.2EBD3E67@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:19:46 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Thomas Hurst , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > > > > sendfile() isn't zero-copy, it's just two-less-copies. > > > zero-copy means "zero copy-operations within memory" > > > > To an MCSE, maybe. > > strange ... > > It's interesting that Dr. Scient Paal Halvorsen that recently finished his > thesis about the subject 'Memory buffering / caching in multimedia > streaming systems'. This has the following description > > The INSTANCE operating system enhancements show great improvements for > multimedia streaming. In this thesis, we want to look at > buffering/caching/prefetching mechanisms suitable for multimedia streams > combined with the INSTANCE zero-copy data path. > > See http://www.ifi.uio.no/~paalh/index2.html for more info > > hm > > Am I an idiot here or have someone else misunderstood? First, the URL reference you give is bad; it's one of those terrible web pages that has a stupid frame that prevents you getting the real URL. The publications URL is: http://www.ifi.uio.no/~paalh/publications/ Second, there's no publication there with this title; the closest one is where he's the junior name on the paper: "Evaluation of a Zero-Copy Protocol Implementation". Third, this paper is bases on the idea that data is being replicated in main memory in lots of places; that doesn't really happen on FreeBSD, which uses a unified VM and buffer cache. Fourth, I think the reason he made the joke about MSCE's was that there are ways of doing true zero copy, using DMA directly between devices. There are a couple of people that have done this by, for example, rewriting the Tigon II firmware to permit page aligned buffers, and DMA'ing directly between disk and ethernet controllers. Technically, that's not zero copy, either, since there's a copy on the disk, and one in some controller memory. "Zero copy" usually means "zero unnecessary copies"; but what someone thinks of as "necessary" is really based on their bias towards an existing implementation. 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 15:22: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gate.tellurian.net (gate.tellurian.net [216.182.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00ABE37B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from walt99 (unverified [216.182.20.107]) by gate.tellurian.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with SMTP id for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:21:54 -0500 Message-ID: X-Sender: walterbetanc@popd.betan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:21:44 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Walter Betancourt Subject: mail problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hope someone can explain -- using freebsd 4.0, Added two new user accounts, setup as usual, trying to access either user email got "....cannot open temporary file,.... do you own it?" did some google searches and found several with same problem that had been advised to erase the temp file .UserName.pop in /var/mail/ in fact they advised to erase all temp files. Looking at /var/mail I found several .UserName.pop files but only one for the new users. so erased the one I found, and just for good measure, erased .MyName.pop file. Now I was NOT able to access the new email accounts or MyName email account. Losing ground rapidly.. Went back and used "touch" to create the new accounts and MyName .UserName.pop files, chown to UserName, chgrp to "mail" and chmod each to 600. All email accounts now work normally,..... and I dont know why. Anyone help ? thanks Walt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 15:26: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from homer.futureuse.net (c35884.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [203.164.229.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1390037B416 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 43334 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 23:22:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO futureuse.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 23:22:12 -0000 Received: from 203.11.225.5 (proxying for 10.140.148.30) (SquirrelMail authenticated user fbsdlist) by www.futureuse.net with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 10:22:12 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <11752.203.11.225.5.1013988132.squirrel@www.futureuse.net> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 10:22:12 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: Email -> SMS Gateway on FreeBSD From: To: In-Reply-To: <06ba01c1b45a$2c1ed900$1501a8c0@win2kws1> References: <06ba01c1b45a$2c1ed900$1501a8c0@win2kws1> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm looking to set up an Email -> SMS gateway on my FreeBSD machine. > Its primary use will be to notify a list of mobile phones via SMS if a > server goes down... [...] > I'm really just after anyone with experience getting this to work. > Suggestions for programs, hardware needed - and i guess most > importantly.. is it possible. Hi Brad, Good news - it is possible and shouldn't be very hard to do either. You've got these main options ... 1. Use a 3rd party service provider, they'll have software or an email gateway you can use. We use RedRock Communications at work. 2. Write your own gateway. For option 2 you'll need these numbers ... Vodafone: 0414 100 200 (Int: +61414100200) Telstra: 0418 707 767 (Int: +61418707767) Those are public SMS services offered by the carriers. You can see from the phone numbers that they are charged roughly at mobile phone rates, I don't know exactly how much that is. Optus doesn't have a service like this but I've confirmed the Vodaphone service will accept messages for Telstra and Optus users. The way the services work is you call them up (settings 8-n-1), send a internationally formatted mobile number when prompted, send the SMS message when prompted and then repeat up to another 2 times or simply disconnect. There are prompts to indicate if your message was sent successfully or not. I wrote a C program that did this but it wasn't for an email gateway and I've since lost the code anyway. I've heard of a few people scripting this, you just need a utility to call the number, send the message and interpret the results. I'm not sure how you interface this to mail. Back to the list - can anyone suggest some utilities that can call a number, send a simple ASCII message and report any output? Also, any suggestions on how to interface this with sendmail/qmail/postfix etc? Brad, if you get any replies off list could you include me on any details you get? I'm thinking about getting a similiar kind of thing working again. > Thanks in advance > > Brad Evans > Network Engineer > Doubleday Australia > +61 2 99 111 349 > www.doubleday.com.au | brad@bookandmusicclubs.com.au Regards, Aaron Hill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 15:36:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from artemis.drwilco.net (diana.drwilco.net [66.48.127.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81A537B400; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ceres.drwilco.net (docwilco.xs4all.nl [213.84.68.230]) by artemis.drwilco.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1HNZ7b38426 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:35:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from drwilco@drwilco.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020218004250.01bd1fc0@mail.drwilco.net> X-Sender: lists@mail.drwilco.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:45:28 +0100 To: Dominic Marks , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org From: "Rogier R. Mulhuijzen" Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020217145935.A1481@host213-123-129-40.in-addr.btop> References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 14:59 17-2-2002 +0000, Dominic Marks wrote: >On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:33:43AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is > > kHTTPD for Linux? > >Ive never seen or heard of one, at least not one available to the >general public. Services should be executed in the user space, thats >what its for. Cross-polluting these user/kernel environments is to be >discouraged. I've heard of a netgraph module that does HTTP, but I'm not sure where unfortunately. Also this sort of thing can be useful for embedded devices. My EUR0.02 DocWilco To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 15:39: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB11137B402; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:38:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0152.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.152] helo=mindspring.com) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16catE-00023n-00; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:38:41 -0800 Message-ID: <3C703EF6.72F1FADF@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:38:30 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk , Thomas Hurst , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > (and yes, even a Dr. Scient can be mistaken. Papers don't make you > smart, you know - though I wouldn't expect someone who brags about > being an MCSE and MCNE to understand that) Person A: How can you tell when someone is lying about having a PhD? Person B: I don't know, how? Person A: Aha! *You* don't have a PhD! -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 16: 6: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D80A537B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5299 invoked by uid 100); 18 Feb 2002 00:05:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15472.17755.609828.990961@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:05:47 -0600 To: Thomas Salmon Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange files in /usr folder In-Reply-To: <98204261@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: "Mike Meyer" X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.46 (Python 2.2; freebsd-4.5-STABLE-i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Salmon types: > ..there are some strange files in the /usr directory. > The filenames are: > ?qq > tatfs?qqq > > Does anybody know what these files are for? Nope. They aren't in their on my system. Frankly, they look like someone used an archive extraction tool of some sort on a file that wasn't meant for it. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 16:16:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01FDC37B417 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5381 invoked by uid 100); 18 Feb 2002 00:16:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15472.18395.637689.922871@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:16:27 -0600 To: "Doug Reynolds" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB modems In-Reply-To: <27072085@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: "Mike Meyer" X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.46 (Python 2.2; freebsd-4.5-STABLE-i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Reynolds types: > On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:55:19 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > >Hello, > >There was recently a short interchange on this list concerning > >USB modems. Re-reading it I am not sure I can draw any conclusion. > >Are USB modems sometimes/always/never winmodems ? > from what I've gathered, yes, always. Read my response for the correct answer. >it seems they don't use AT commands either. The AT command set is an optional part of the USB spec. The FreeBSD usb modem driver insists that it be implemented, otherwise it won't recognize the modem as such - after all, there's no userland software to use it. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 16:20:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D85A37B41C; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020218002009.LJVI1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:20:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA48434; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:17:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:17:25 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: "Rogier R. Mulhuijzen" Cc: Dominic Marks , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020218004250.01bd1fc0@mail.drwilco.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG there is a netgraph module in standard systems (ng_ksocket) that does the socket part but youstill need to write the http node.. John Polstra's one is proprietary. On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Rogier R. Mulhuijzen wrote: > At 14:59 17-2-2002 +0000, Dominic Marks wrote: > >On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:33:43AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > > Is there any In-Kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD, like there is > > > kHTTPD for Linux? > > > >Ive never seen or heard of one, at least not one available to the > >general public. Services should be executed in the user space, thats > >what its for. Cross-polluting these user/kernel environments is to be > >discouraged. > > I've heard of a netgraph module that does HTTP, but I'm not sure where > unfortunately. > > Also this sort of thing can be useful for embedded devices. > > My EUR0.02 > > DocWilco > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 16:21: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B65437B41B; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020218002019.LJYB1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:20:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA48414; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:13:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:13:03 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Terry Lambert Cc: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Thomas Hurst , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <3C703A92.2EBD3E67@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Fourth, I think the reason he made the joke about MSCE's > was that there are ways of doing true zero copy, using > DMA directly between devices. There are a couple of > people that have done this by, for example, rewriting > the Tigon II firmware to permit page aligned buffers, > and DMA'ing directly between disk and ethernet controllers. > > Technically, that's not zero copy, either, since there's > a copy on the disk, and one in some controller memory. > > "Zero copy" usually means "zero unnecessary copies"; but > what someone thinks of as "necessary" is really based on > their bias towards an existing implementation. At TFS we did this on BSD4.3, Mach 2.5 and FreeBSD(2.x) with proprietary protocols and proprieary network cards with lots of onboard RAM. We divided the RAM up into buffers and when we needed to send data we programmed the disk controllers to move the data directly to the network cards by DMA. This was on old slow busses but it gave us an order of magnitude advantage in bang per buck over the oposition.. Allowed us to do as much as them but on much cheaper hardware :-) Julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 16:27:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ox.lucas-nussbaum.net (cab-192023.calixo.net [213.166.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853DA37B405 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by ox.lucas-nussbaum.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE77A44E7; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 01:27:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 01:27:11 +0100 From: Lucas Nussbaum To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email -> SMS Gateway on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20020218002711.GA23631@oxygene.in.schickler.net> References: <06ba01c1b45a$2c1ed900$1501a8c0@win2kws1> <11752.203.11.225.5.1013988132.squirrel@www.futureuse.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <11752.203.11.225.5.1013988132.squirrel@www.futureuse.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 10:22:12AM +1100, fbsdlist@futureuse.net wrote: > > I'm looking to set up an Email -> SMS gateway on my FreeBSD machine. > > Its primary use will be to notify a list of mobile phones via SMS if a > > server goes down... > [...] > > I'm really just after anyone with experience getting this to work. > > Suggestions for programs, hardware needed - and i guess most > > importantly.. is it possible. > > Hi Brad, > > Good news - it is possible and shouldn't be very hard to do either. You've > got these main options ... > > 1. Use a 3rd party service provider, they'll have software or an email > gateway you can use. We use RedRock Communications at work. > > 2. Write your own gateway. 3. use the email address provided by your phone operator (eg: number@operator), and redirect the mail to it. Often it's only a mail notify service, so only subject is sent to the phone. I've a perl script which put all the content of a mail in a subject then send it. If someone is interested, mail me privately. Btw, someone talked about software available for that in the ports. Which ports exactly ? lucas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 16:48:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B5537B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:48:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g1I0m2r95808; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 01:48:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <017c01c1b815$ec40ac90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 01:48:02 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roy writes: > But can you please point at *one* application/ > system/whatever that is using HDD->NIC DMA? Irrelevant. The real-world feasibility of such a transfer is sufficient to support the point being made, whether anyone has actually done it or not. > er.. So - if you certify within a product, > you'll probably become dumber? No, but the point may have been that credentialism is often compensation for other deficiencies (imagined or real)--and, FWIW, this correlates well with my experience and observation. In contrast, the correlation between low intelligence and credentialism is weaker, being much less demonstrable than, say, the correlation between personal attacks and low intelligence. > Grow up Hmm. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 16:49:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C202E37B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:49:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g1I0nlr95818; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 01:49:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <018501c1b816$2a9cb970$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Terry Lambert" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <20020217163045.GB90303@voi.aagh.net> <3C703089.AD03554B@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 01:49:47 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry writes: > If you have followed the khttpd work at all, then > you'll know that Ingo has actually done some > admirable work in it. Admirable or not, an HTTP server does not belong in the kernel, unless the entire OS is designed as a dedicated HTTP server, and nothing else. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 16:51:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9E737B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g1I0pOr95830; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 01:51:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <018c01c1b816$6482f5a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Alfred Perlstein" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <20020217173609.A25030@energyhq.homeip.net> <3C703154.91ED7FB4@mindspring.com> <20020217224724.GL12136@elvis.mu.org> Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 01:51:24 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alfred writes: > The real problem is that most of the generic > web servers available (as well as most commercial > ones) just suck for handling IO and events. > A well thought out design can give you quite > a perf boost without needing to stick the > _entire_ thing into the kernel. In a production environment, the cheapest and safest way to improve performance is to buy more hardware. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 16:58:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pop.netgate.net (pop.netgate.net [204.145.147.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10F437B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lolafitz (pm3-37.netgate.net [205.214.163.37]) by pop.netgate.net (8.8.5/8.8.8-KB.072299) with SMTP id RAA11553 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:18:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000a01c1b817$3cf78ea0$0100a8c0@lolafitz> From: "frank adrian" To: Subject: How to install PHP with GD Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:57:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B7D4.2DFA1B40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B7D4.2DFA1B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm running FreeBSD4.5 and need PHP to work with GD installed. I've installed both packages and PHP is functional but without GD working. (I used phpinfo to confirm). Do I need to compile PHP from scratch? I couldn't find anything under man pkg_add or searching FreeBSD.org. Thanks Frank Adrian=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B7D4.2DFA1B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B7D4.2DFA1B40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 16:59:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B125B37B402; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:59:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 5A9545341; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 01:59:34 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk Cc: Thomas Hurst , , , Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 18 Feb 2002 01:59:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk writes: > er.. So - if you certify within a product, you'll probably become dumber? Getting an MCSE or an MCNE doesn't necessarily make one dumb - though some might ask if one couldn't find anything better to do with one's (employer's) time and money. Believing that it's worth more than the paper it's printed on, however, and bragging about it in an open-source forum, raises serious questions about one's intellectual acumen. Now, a CCNE, on the other hand... DES (neither of the above) -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 17: 1:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rambo.simx.org (rambo.simx.org [194.17.208.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B524D37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:01:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from rambo.simx.org (rocky [192.168.0.2]) by rambo.simx.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1I10vZ28591; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 01:00:57 GMT (envelope-from listsub@rambo.simx.org) Message-ID: <3C705249.6020002@rambo.simx.org> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 02:00:57 +0100 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" Reply-To: listsub@rambo.simx.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lucas Nussbaum Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email -> SMS Gateway on FreeBSD References: <06ba01c1b45a$2c1ed900$1501a8c0@win2kws1> <11752.203.11.225.5.1013988132.squirrel@www.futureuse.net> <20020218002711.GA23631@oxygene.in.schickler.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 10:22:12AM +1100, fbsdlist@futureuse.net wrote: > >>>I'm looking to set up an Email -> SMS gateway on my FreeBSD machine. >>>Its primary use will be to notify a list of mobile phones via SMS if a >>>server goes down... >>> >>[...] >> >>>I'm really just after anyone with experience getting this to work. >>>Suggestions for programs, hardware needed - and i guess most >>>importantly.. is it possible. >>> >>Hi Brad, >> >>Good news - it is possible and shouldn't be very hard to do either. You've >>got these main options ... >> >>1. Use a 3rd party service provider, they'll have software or an email >>gateway you can use. We use RedRock Communications at work. >> >>2. Write your own gateway. >> > > 3. use the email address provided by your phone operator (eg: > number@operator), and redirect the mail to it. Often it's only a mail > notify service, so only subject is sent to the phone. I've a perl script > which put all the content of a mail in a subject then send it. If > someone is interested, mail me privately. > > Btw, someone talked about software available for that in the ports. > Which ports exactly ? > > lucas /usr/ports/misc/smssend can use webbased services such as mtnsms.com and many others. It features some kind of script language that allows you to make scripts that enables it to use any webbased sms service, and comes preloaded with scripts for a lot of services. I havent used it more then in a few tests, but it seems to work. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 17:11:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from root.com (unknown [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162EA37B402; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:11:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dg@localhost) by root.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g1I19Tt81499; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:09:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:09:29 -0800 From: David Greenman To: Terry Lambert Cc: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Thomas Hurst , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20020217170929.D80718@nexus.root.com> References: <3C703A92.2EBD3E67@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C703A92.2EBD3E67@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 03:19:46PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >"Zero copy" usually means "zero unnecessary copies"; but >what someone thinks of as "necessary" is really based on >their bias towards an existing implementation. "zero copy" these days has come to mean no copies that involve the CPU. In my experiance, raw memory bandwidth to DMA packets to/from main memory is not the bottleneck on modern hardware. -DG David Greenman Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com President, Download Technologies, Inc. - http://www.downloadtech.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 17:14:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5943B37B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:14:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0152.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.152] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ccNq-0004gQ-00; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:14:22 -0800 Message-ID: <3C705564.E1EA2FDA@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:14:12 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <20020217163045.GB90303@voi.aagh.net> <3C703089.AD03554B@mindspring.com> <018501c1b816$2a9cb970$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Terry writes: > > If you have followed the khttpd work at all, then > > you'll know that Ingo has actually done some > > admirable work in it. > > Admirable or not, an HTTP server does not belong in the kernel, unless the > entire OS is designed as a dedicated HTTP server, and nothing else. This is the third list on which you've made bald statements as if they were facts. Do I need to filter you on this list, too? The obvious rejoinder to your claim is that on a resource starved system that is using HTTP based system management, once you hit resource starvation, your management of the system which would enable you to recover from the failure situation is impossible, unless that management is immune from said stavation (e.g. by being in the kernel). Another obvious, but somewhat less universal dictum, would be that performance of HTTP based management should be constant, regardless of other system load, since interacting with the human managing the system is the most import task any system can have on its "to do" list. Therefore, a kernel based HTTP server is an elegant approach to a problem that would otherwise require a significant amount of scheduler and other work to resolve. To back up my statement on the importance of a machine responding to the human who owns it, I refer you to: Context and Consciousness: Activity Theory and Human-Computer Interaction Ed. Bonnie A. Nardi MIT Press ISBN: 0-262-14058-6 Finally, yes, it makes sense for a dedicated web server to do this; so what? It also make sense for any web server where performance is an issue, dedicated or not. PS: People use FreeBSD for dedicated web servers; therefore, even if your limitation argument were valid, which I don't grant, it makes sense for FreeBSD to at least have this facility available. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 17:17:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ra.sigterm.com (sangui.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.16.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C157337B405 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 42249 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2002 01:17:06 -0000 Received: from osiris.sigterm.com (203.47.187.211) by ra.sigterm.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2002 01:17:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:17:17 +1100 From: Stuart Tanner To: frank adrian Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to install PHP with GD Message-ID: <20020218121717.C214@osiris.sigterm.com> References: <000a01c1b817$3cf78ea0$0100a8c0@lolafitz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <000a01c1b817$3cf78ea0$0100a8c0@lolafitz>; from marcovefa@netgate.net on Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:57:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.3.0 Lines: 28 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002.02.18 11:57 frank adrian wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running FreeBSD4.5 and need PHP to work with GD > > installed. I've installed both packages and PHP is functional > > but without GD working. (I used phpinfo to confirm). > > Do I need to compile PHP from scratch? > > I couldn't find anything under man pkg_add or searching > > FreeBSD.org. > > Thanks > > Frank Adrian > If you build PHP from the ports collection you will be presented with a menu offering choices about which additional features you want added to PHP, including GD. I don't know of a way to reconfigure PHP once it is installed. -- Stuart Tanner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 17:21:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA68237B400; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0152.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.152] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ccUO-0003yC-00; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:21:08 -0800 Message-ID: <3C7056F9.A9F37535@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:20:57 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Greenman Cc: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Thomas Hurst , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? References: <3C703A92.2EBD3E67@mindspring.com> <20020217170929.D80718@nexus.root.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Greenman wrote: > >"Zero copy" usually means "zero unnecessary copies"; but > >what someone thinks of as "necessary" is really based on > >their bias towards an existing implementation. > > "zero copy" these days has come to mean no copies that involve > the CPU. In my experiance, raw memory bandwidth to DMA packets > to/from main memory is not the bottleneck on modern hardware. I'll agree with your experience. At this point, the limiting factor is PCI bandwith, at least for general purpose hardware. The "AGP approach", where the main memory *is* the NIC memory, gets around this limitation, but doesn't kick the CPU out of the picture, even then. In practice, I've found that it is sometimes better to let the CPU do the copying, rather than the DMA engine on the device, since it's often faster at it. This assumes that the CPU is not otherwise engaged (e.g. doing cryptography), and there's enough spare cycles around the CPU can do the job faster. Moore's law and Intel really screw with the business model required to build special purpose network processors, don't they? 8-) 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 17:31:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from root.com (unknown [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BB437B400; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dg@localhost) by root.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g1I1U8J81562; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:30:08 -0800 From: David Greenman To: Terry Lambert Cc: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Thomas Hurst , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20020217173008.E80718@nexus.root.com> References: <3C703A92.2EBD3E67@mindspring.com> <20020217170929.D80718@nexus.root.com> <3C7056F9.A9F37535@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C7056F9.A9F37535@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 05:20:57PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I'll agree with your experience. At this point, the limiting >factor is PCI bandwith, at least for general purpose hardware. I haven't found PCI bandwidth to be a problem, either, at least when using gigabit ethernet NICs on 64bit and/or 66MHz PCI. When one writes an efficient HTTP server that takes a tiny amount of memory per process and uses sendfile() to crank out the bits, the bottleneck becomes the CPU for doing context switches, packet header creation, and TCP protocol processing. -DG David Greenman Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com President, Download Technologies, Inc. - http://www.downloadtech.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 17:40:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from iguana.icir.org (iguana.icir.org [192.150.187.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6469F37B402; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:40:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rizzo@localhost) by iguana.icir.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g1I1eAH16546; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:40:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:40:10 -0800 From: Luigi Rizzo To: David Greenman Cc: Terry Lambert , Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Thomas Hurst , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20020217174010.B16041@iguana.icir.org> References: <3C703A92.2EBD3E67@mindspring.com> <20020217170929.D80718@nexus.root.com> <3C7056F9.A9F37535@mindspring.com> <20020217173008.E80718@nexus.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020217173008.E80718@nexus.root.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 05:30:08PM -0800, David Greenman wrote: > >I'll agree with your experience. At this point, the limiting > >factor is PCI bandwith, at least for general purpose hardware. > > I haven't found PCI bandwidth to be a problem, either, at least when > using gigabit ethernet NICs on 64bit and/or 66MHz PCI. When one writes an Correct, though Terry probably meant that "general purpose hw" (read: cheap motherboards) usually have 32bit/33MHz PCI buses, so they can easily become a bottleneck especially if they are shared with other peripherals such as disk controllers, video acquisition boards, or multiple ethernet boards. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 17:58: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ness.aae.uiuc.edu (ness.aae.uiuc.edu [128.174.132.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B08437B442 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dmmcf@localhost) by ness.aae.uiuc.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g1I24TK20379; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:04:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dmmcf@uiuc.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: ness.aae.uiuc.edu: dmmcf set sender to dmmcf@uiuc.edu using -f To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Advice sought re MS Office compatibility From: dmmcf@uiuc.edu (D. Michael McFarland) Date: 17 Feb 2002 20:04:29 -0600 Message-ID: <86eljjlf4i.fsf@ness.aae.uiuc.edu> Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello All, I find it's becoming increasingly important for me to collaborate, at a .doc- and .ppt-file level, with colleagues who use MS Word and PowerPoint on Macs and PCs. Yes, I've tried to enlighten them about the alternatives; I've enlightened them about all they're going to stand, and it's necessary that I do something towards meeting them half-way. So, I'm here to ask your advice about compatible applications. I ran a couple different versions of Applixware under under Red Hat Linux a few years ago, and generally have a good opinion of it, but have never installed it under FreeBSD. I have used StarOffice a little under both Linux and FreeBSD, but recent versions (as of a few months ago) don't play well with XFree86 v. 4 on my laptop (an IBM T-22 running STABLE). I know about VMware and am anxiously awaiting the port of v. 3, but even were it available now, Office is Office and I'd rather use something else. So what's my question? Given that I'm willing to put a little money and more than a little effort into getting it going, what have people found is the most MS-compatible, robust application of this sort? Lest anyone think I'm a pointing, clicking ex-Windows jock, I hasten to add that I write everything I can in TeX. I run Matlab's Simulink from an Emacs buffer. Why, I even...well, you get the idea. But I need to Office to keep the peace, and I'd appreciate any recommendations. Best regards, Michael -- D. Michael McFarland Visiting Senior Research Scientist & Visiting Lecturer Department of Aeronautical and Astronautical Engineering University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 18: 0:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20101.mail.yahoo.com (web20101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B38937B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:00:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020218020047.50792.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.56.225.6] by web20101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:00:47 PST Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:00:47 -0800 (PST) From: ann kok Subject: don't understand the message in maillog To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear all I would like to know how this message is in the maillog of the mail server? What is this meaning? Is it using our mail server? Feb 17 04:11:31 email sendmail[24444]: EAA24444: from=, size=0, class=0, pri=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, relay=[208.254.57.2] TIA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 18: 3: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probsd.ws (ilm25-53-085.ec.rr.com [24.25.53.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAC537B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by probsd.ws (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1I23xE58376 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:03:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ms) Message-Id: <200202180203.g1I23xE58376@probsd.ws> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Michael Sharp To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mergemaster Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:03:59 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm kinda new to FreeBSD and I am about to do the -RELEASE to -STABLE procedure. I'm a little confused as to what mergemaster does, and what I should do.. whether install the temp, or delete, or merge. As I understand it, if you have self-edited files in the /etc directory and you want to keep those changes, you dont install the temp file and leave it for later. However, if you havent self-edited a /etc file, its best to install it. Am I correct? What 'merge' does, I have no idea? Someone mind clarifying what mergemaster does, is it ok to skip the process? michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 18: 7:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842DF37B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAE52B6C7; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 03:07:52 +0100 (CET) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 97A8F84A; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:07:47 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:07:47 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: ann kok Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: don't understand the message in maillog Message-ID: <20020218130747.O494@k7.mavetju.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , ann kok , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020218020047.50792.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020218020047.50792.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com>; from annkok2001@yahoo.com on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:00:47PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:00:47PM -0800, ann kok wrote: > Dear all > > I would like to know how this message is in the > maillog > of the mail server? > > What is this meaning? Is it using our mail server? > > Feb 17 04:11:31 email sendmail[24444]: EAA24444: > from=, size=0, class=0, pri=0, > nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, relay=[208.254.57.2] You have to find all lines which have the string EAA24444 in it. If you have them, post them here and more information can be given about it. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 18:28: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AA537B416 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 50C88AE768; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:27:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:27:59 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20020218022759.GM12136@elvis.mu.org> References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <20020217173609.A25030@energyhq.homeip.net> <3C703154.91ED7FB4@mindspring.com> <20020217224724.GL12136@elvis.mu.org> <018c01c1b816$6482f5a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <018c01c1b816$6482f5a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Anthony Atkielski [020217 16:51] wrote: > Alfred writes: > > > The real problem is that most of the generic > > web servers available (as well as most commercial > > ones) just suck for handling IO and events. > > A well thought out design can give you quite > > a perf boost without needing to stick the > > _entire_ thing into the kernel. > > In a production environment, the cheapest and safest way to improve > performance is to buy more hardware. That's untrue, short sighed and off topic. But since you brought it up... :) More hardware means more sysadmin time, means higher chances of failure, means your software must be more robust in dealing with failures. An example is a large server farm that I know of that even with true ECC ram gets several non-recoverable memory errors per-day. Expenses go up the larger your cluster is, both in power, cost for space and cost for replacement parts, and how many parts you must have on hand for replacement. Your cluster will also never scale linearly such that at a certain point adding more nodes/cpus/loadbalancers "just works". No amount of hardware thrown at a problem can equal a well thought out design. Case in point Ebay when they maxed out their e10ks a couple of years back. Eventually they _needed_ to rethink their design in order to make the site usable again. Most of the "clusters" I've seen have ben a resul of poor core engineering. If you have a cluster, if no one can get it to scale and if you can find him, maybe you can hire.... -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' Tax deductible donations for FreeBSD: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 18:39:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from joshua.site-fx.net (ajhm54hby52pi.bc.hsia.telus.net [66.183.47.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0D737B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:39:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from agent-orange.site-fx.net (gateway.site-fx.net [192.168.1.1]) by joshua.site-fx.net (8.12.1/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1GHiFv6007902; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:44:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: BIND vs djbdns From: "James A. Peltier" To: GB Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <000d01c1b69e$dd38a6d0$0201a8c0@CITYMOUSE> References: <000d01c1b69e$dd38a6d0$0201a8c0@CITYMOUSE> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 16 Feb 2002 09:44:23 -0800 Message-Id: <1013881463.2872.1.camel@agent-orange.site-fx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG BIND is included in most UNIX operating systems. BIND is even the base for the Windows 2000 Nameserver. Best to learn BIND as you will find it implemented more than djbdns. That said though I am personally migrating my DNS over to djbdns. On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 20:03, GB wrote: > Folks, > > Not to start a flame war, but does anyone have opinions/advice on BIND9 > vs. djbdns? > > The former is the worldwide standard; the latter seems simpler and more > secure. Simpler appeals to me, since I'm still scratching my head after > reading several BIND HOWTOs. > > Any thoughts appreciated! > > Greg B. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- -James Hardware, n.: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 18:42:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pmarquis.com (h002078d55764.ne.mediaone.net [66.30.63.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EA737B400; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pmarquis@localhost) by pmarquis.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1I2gIn17769; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:42:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pmarquis) Message-Id: <200202180242.g1I2gIn17769@pmarquis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Paul Marquis To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:42:18 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: Hiten Pandya , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In case anyone is interested, I've just submitted an update for the boa port: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35065 On Sunday 17 February 2002 01:26 pm, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk writes: > > well .. So let's turn the question upside-down, and ask "Is there > > a web server or -accelerator for FreeBSD with similar performance > > as with khttpd or Tux? > > Have you tried thttpd or boa? > > DES -- Paul Marquis pmarquis@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 18:48:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts11.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8249B37B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([199.243.128.21]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with ESMTP id <20020218024827.DCWI27257.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:48:27 -0500 Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g1I2avi99224; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:36:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <001e01c1b826$bd97e140$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "ann kok" Cc: References: <20020218020047.50792.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> <20020218130747.O494@k7.mavetju.org> Subject: Re: don't understand the message in maillog Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:48:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:00:47PM -0800, ann kok wrote: > > Dear all > > > > I would like to know how this message is in the > > maillog > > of the mail server? > > > > What is this meaning? Is it using our mail server? > > > > Feb 17 04:11:31 email sendmail[24444]: EAA24444: > > from=, size=0, class=0, pri=0, > > nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, relay=[208.254.57.2] Yes, this message is using your mail server (otherwise your mail server wouldn't have logged it.) All this message means is that your mail server accepted an e-mail from jone001@hotmail.com of size 0 (!). > You have to find all lines which have the string EAA24444 in it. > If you have them, post them here and more information can be given > about it. Absolutely. The other lines with EAA24444 will show you who the message was to. If it isn't someone who has a mailbox on your server, then your server is being used as an open relay, which doesn't contribute to the decline of e-mail spam. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 19:24:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20105.mail.yahoo.com (web20105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D859A37B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:24:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020218032424.17091.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.56.226.212] by web20105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:24:24 PST Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:24:24 -0800 (PST) From: ann kok Subject: Re: don't understand the message in maillog To: Matthew Emmerton , edwin@mavetju.org Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <001e01c1b826$bd97e140$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear all I only have this one line in the maillog How do I check and prevent it? I use sendmail Thank you again --- Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:00:47PM -0800, ann kok > wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > > > I would like to know how this message is in the > > > maillog > > > of the mail server? > > > > > > What is this meaning? Is it using our mail > server? > > > > > > Feb 17 04:11:31 email sendmail[24444]: EAA24444: > > > from=, size=0, class=0, > pri=0, > > > nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, relay=[208.254.57.2] > > Yes, this message is using your mail server > (otherwise your mail server > wouldn't have logged it.) > All this message means is that your mail server > accepted an e-mail from > jone001@hotmail.com of size 0 (!). > > > You have to find all lines which have the string > EAA24444 in it. > > If you have them, post them here and more > information can be given > > about it. > > Absolutely. The other lines with EAA24444 will show > you who the message was > to. If it isn't someone who has a mailbox on your > server, then your server > is being used as an open relay, which doesn't > contribute to the decline of > e-mail spam. > > -- > Matt Emmerton > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 19:36: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.austclear.com.au (ns1.austclear.com.au [192.43.185.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18AB37B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from tungsten.austclear.com.au (tungsten.austclear.com.au [192.168.166.65]) by ns1.austclear.com.au (8.11.2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g1I3a0065508; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 14:36:00 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from ahl@austclear.com.au) Received: from tungsten (tungsten [192.168.166.65]) by tungsten.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14525; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 14:36:00 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200202180336.OAA14525@tungsten.austclear.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: ann kok Cc: Matthew Emmerton , edwin@mavetju.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: don't understand the message in maillog In-Reply-To: Message from ann kok of "Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:24:24 -0800." <20020218032424.17091.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 14:35:59 +1100 From: Tony Landells Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I usually find that a line like that is an indication that sendmail has rejected the mail--it has a zero size and no recipients. You should actually find that somewhere in the log shortly before that line is an entry like: Feb 17 04:11:31 email sendmail[24444]: EAA24444: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=, relay=[208.254.57.2], reject=..... Where the "....." at the end is the rejection code, and an English explanation for the rejection. The ruleset may also be something different, but the anti-spam, anti-relay stuff usually starts with check_ Tony -- Tony Landells Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 Level 4, Rialto North Tower 525 Collins Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 19:37:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hauan.org (dah.sharedcomm.net [205.235.129.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E4637B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:37:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from hauan.org (localhost.hauan.org [127.0.0.1]) by hauan.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1HJjni22803 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:46:19 GMT (envelope-from dah@hauan.org) Message-ID: <3C70086C.7AA9B561@hauan.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:45:48 +0000 From: Dave X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBsd.org Subject: quick cam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone got a BW connectix quick cam working with 4.4-Release? Need help. Have tried qcread and xcam (sane) to no avail. Someone have any *cam* working well? Would love to know as I'm giving up on the bwqcam and will buy something that works. Just wondering! dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 19:41:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from angui.sh (angui.sh [216.27.181.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072B037B416 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wfroning@localhost) by angui.sh (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1I4DpK47367; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:13:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wfroning@angui.sh) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:13:51 -0800 (PST) From: Will Froning To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: Will Froning Subject: natd and dynamic rules Message-ID: <20020217201322.E46783-100000@angui.sh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [please CC me on replies, thanks] I have an issue with natd and my dynamic ipfw rules. Here goes. I recently implemented natd on my FBSD4.5 firewall. Here are the relevant ipfw rules (internal ip=192.168.100.1): 01400 divert 8668 ip from any to any via dc0 01500 check-state 01600 deny log tcp from any to any established 01700 allow tcp from ${oip} to any keep-state out setup 02800 allow ip from 192.168.100.0/24 to any keep-state via dc1 When I start a ssh session from my firewall to my mail server the dynamic rule gets the correct lifetime value from net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_ack_lifetime. When I start a ssh session from 192.168.100.2 to my firewall's internal interface, I again get the correct lifetime value from net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_ack_lifetime. When I start a ssh session from 192.168.100.2 to a remote machine, the packet gets through just fine. But when the dynamic rules come up I was suspecting both 2800 and 1700 to have the same lifetime value. That's not the case. It seems when natd sends the packet out, the outgoing packet gets it's lifetime value from net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_syn_lifetime NOT net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_ack_lifetime! So my questions are these: 1) Is this purposely done by implementation or is this a bug in either ipfw or natd? 2) If this is a "feature", is there any way to change this to have both rules look at the same lifetime value? FYI: I tried http://www.aarongifford.com/computers/ipfwpatch.html, but that effects ack_lifetime not syn_lifetime. I also tried natd with -s and again without, same results. Thanks. Will -- Will Froning Unix Sys. Admin. wfroning@angui.sh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 20: 0:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC36B37B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875CE5D09; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:00:28 -0800 (PST) To: Michael Sharp Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mergemaster In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:03:59 EST." <200202180203.g1I23xE58376@probsd.ws> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:00:28 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20020218040028.875CE5D09@ptavv.es.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Michael Sharp > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:03:59 -0500 > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > I'm kinda new to FreeBSD and I am about to do the -RELEASE to -STABLE > procedure. I'm a little confused as to what mergemaster does, and what I > should do.. whether install the temp, or delete, or merge. As I understand > it, if you have self-edited files in the /etc directory and you want to keep > those changes, you dont install the temp file and leave it for later. > However, if you havent self-edited a /etc file, its best to install it. Am I > correct? What 'merge' does, I have no idea? Someone mind clarifying what > mergemaster does, is it ok to skip the process? Michael, mergemaster does about what you think. There are a number of system file which are routinely modified by system admins and, when changes are made to the base files in the FreeBSD distribution, it would be disastrous to simply replace the existing file. Imagine your password file suddenly being replaced by one with none of your accounts in it! Megemaster-Why and How The purpose of mergemaster is to allow changes to files that are frequently/normally configured by an system administrator. These are mostly in the /etc tree. When you run mergemaster, it will build a copy of the root environment, by default in /var/tmp/temproot. Once this is done, you will get a list of files you have on your system that are not in the FreeBSD distribution. These are files that are not part of the distribution, files installed by X11 or files you have created. It's a good idea to scan over this list, but I'll admit that I seldom bother. Next, you will start getting the output of "diff | more" for all existing files that are different from the newly downloaded version. If the file is one you have not customized, you almost certainly want to select 'i' to install the newer file. You may also get some files that don't exist on your system because they were added to the tree since your prior installation. You almost certainly want to install 'i' these, too. I always look at the differences, even though I know I will be selecting the new version. There is a lot of easily understandable information about changes in the system and it might cause you to realize that something is messed up in the current installation or something new that you want to learn more about. If you have a reason to not want to install the new version or make any changes to the old version, choose 'd'. You probably don't really want to do this, though. When you get to a file that you have edited, you probably want to merge. If you select 'm', you will get an sdiff display where you can blend lines from your existing file (on the left) and the new file (on the right) by entering 'l' or 'r'. You should ALWAYS select the right (new) choice for the RCS version line so that you will not keep being bugged by this every time you run mergemaster. If the changes are such that simply selecting 'l' or 'r' does not do the right thing, you can choose 'e' to bring up the file in an editor so that you can make it look exactly like you want it to look. Remember to include the RCS version line from the new (right) version. The first time you run mergemaster is the worst. After you have done your merges, future runs won't ask about the most files because the RCS versions will not be changed (unless, of course, the distribution file HAS changed.) Never just let mergemaster install everything! You may lose password, groups, printcap, or other files critical to system operation. Finally, mergemaster will give you the opportunity to instantiate the changes made to files like /dev/MAKEDEV, /etc/mail/aliases, and master.passwd. Unless you are confident that there is a reason not to do any of these, answer 'y'. Finally, if you can't decide how to proceed, you can leave the new file in the temporary directory and worry about them later. But even this has risks as some changes (e.g. pam.conf) may be required for things to run normally. Try to avoid this option. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 20: 5:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chen.org.nz (adsl-210.54.19.51.quicksilver.net.nz [210.54.19.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C020437B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by chen.org.nz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1I44mY24517; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:04:48 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:04:48 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: mess-mate Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upsd problems Message-ID: <20020218170448.A6470@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <20020217103432.A9D0B119@postfix2-1.free.fr> <20020218071703.A229@grimoire.chen.org.nz> <20020217192144.8BEE8AB1BC@postfix1-2.free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020217192144.8BEE8AB1BC@postfix1-2.free.fr>; from messmate@free.fr on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 04:14:29PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Please don't remove the Cc: freebsd-questions] On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 04:14:29PM +0100, mess-mate wrote: > What's an UPS ??? :( > Uninterruptable Power Supply. It's usually a small cube that's got a battery supply. There's a serial port which you can connect to monitor the internal state; in the ports, sysutils/upsd is one such monitoring daemon that checks the state of APC Smart UPS boxes. It sounds like you've installed one by mistake. Check /var/db/pkg and pkg_delete the upsd_X.X.X package. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Irrationality is the square root of all evil" - Douglas Hofstadter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 20:49: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gecko.yellowgoanna.com (monatomic4.link.internode.on.net [150.101.99.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DA737B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from albert (unknown [192.168.0.12]) by gecko.yellowgoanna.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1EB17D50 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:18:42 +1030 (CST) From: "Richard Russell" To: Subject: RE: Problem installing Xfree86-4 and other ports Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:18:44 +1030 Message-ID: <004101c1b837$8b7aafb0$0c00a8c0@albert> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: <000c01c1b639$f56a4ca0$0c00a8c0@albert> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Was my post too long? too hard? too easy (not worth an RTFM!)? to the wrong list? I'm stuck here, folks... it's a showstopper, and I have already downloaded 800Mb ish of ports (which will cost me $A110 here) ... sigh :) rr -- Richard Russell Yellow Goanna Pty Ltd e: richard@yellowgoanna.com m: +61 412 827 805 f: +61 8 8462 2362 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of > Richard Russell > Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2002 2:31 AM > To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Problem installing Xfree86-4 and other ports > > > Hi all, > > New to the list -- apologies if this message is misdirected, > just answered, or Considered Evil -- please correct me :) > > I've just done my first installation of FreeBSD 4.4 from a > 4cd set on my Toshiba TE2000 Laptop. I'm having a few > problems getting some ports to work... > > Here's what I've done (from memory -- E&OE)... > > Installed. > make & install cvsupit > cvsup cvsupfile -- updated everything to the latest > (4.5-STABLE, latest ports, etc) did a make buildworld, make > buildkernel, make installkernel, make installworld, > mergemaster, reboot -- all seems ok. > > I've since installed a few ports successfully, but had > trouble with some... > > > XFree86-4 (fixed now, but I still wonder why the problem): > > I managed to mess about a bit too much with XFree86 -- > installed 3.3.6, then 4.1.0, then 3.3.6, then deinstalled > both and reinstalled 4.1.0 ... However, I couldn't start X > due to it not being able to find the fixed font... after much > messing around, I discovered that despite installing the > XFree86-font*-4.1.0 ports, I didn't have > XFree86-libraries-4.1.0 installed -- I'm not sure if this is > due to my messing around, or if it's because the dependencies > are mussed up... > > > Almost every other port I try now: > > eg sysutils/portupgrade... > > here's my log (superfluous stuff removed): > ---- > # make clean > ===> Cleaning for autoconf213-2.13.000227_1 > ===> Cleaning for m4-1.4_1 > ===> Cleaning for ruby-fnmatch-1.1b_1 > ===> Cleaning for ruby-optparse-0.8.6 > ===> Cleaning for ruby-1.6.6.2002.01.29 > ===> Cleaning for pkg_tarup-1.2_3 > ===> Cleaning for portupgrade-20020213.1_1 > # make > ===> Extracting for portupgrade-20020213.1_1 > >> Checksum OK for pkgtools-20020204.tar.bz2. > >> Checksum OK for pkgtools-20020204-20020213.1.diff.bz2. > ===> portupgrade-20020213.1_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/ruby - > found > ===> Patching for portupgrade-20020213.1_1 > ===> Applying distribution patches for > portupgrade-20020213.1_1 /usr/local/bin/ruby -i.orig -ne '/ p > / or print' /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade > /work/pkgtools-20020204/bin/portcvsweb > ===> Configuring for portupgrade-20020213.1_1 > ===> Building for portupgrade-20020213.1_1 > ===> bin > Warning: Object directory not changed from original > /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgr ade/work/pkgtools-20020204/bin > /usr/local/bin/ruby -wc make_describe_pass1 Syntax OK > /usr/local/bin/ruby -pe ' if $. == 1; if /^#!/; sub > /^#!\s*\S*(\benv\s+)?\bru by/, "#!/usr/local/bin/ruby"; > else; $_ = "#!/usr/local/bin/ruby\n" + $_; end; > end' make_describe_pass1 > .build/make_describe_pass1 > ... > > ... > /usr/local/bin/ruby -wc portversion > Syntax OK > /usr/local/bin/ruby -pe ' if $. == 1; if /^#!/; sub > /^#!\s*\S*(\benv\s+)?\bru by/, "#!/usr/local/bin/ruby"; > else; $_ = "#!/usr/local/bin/ruby\n" + $_; end; > end' portversion > .build/portversion > gzip -cn pkg_deinstall.1 > pkg_deinstall.1.gz > gzip -cn pkg_fetch.1 > pkg_fetch.1.gz > gzip -cn pkg_glob.1 > pkg_glob.1.gz > gzip -cn pkg_sort.1 > pkg_sort.1.gz > gzip -cn pkgdb.1 > pkgdb.1.gz > gzip -cn portcvsweb.1 > portcvsweb.1.gz > gzip -cn portsclean.1 > portsclean.1.gz > gzip -cn portsdb.1 > portsdb.1.gz > gzip -cn portupgrade.1 > portupgrade.1.gz > gzip -cn portversion.1 > portversion.1.gz > ===> etc > Warning: Object directory not changed from original > /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgr ade/work/pkgtools-20020204/etc > /usr/local/bin/ruby -p -e 'sub %r:/usr/local:, "/usr/local"' > pkgtools.sh > .bu ild/pkgtools.sh /usr/local/bin/ruby -p -e > 'sub %r:/usr/local:, "/usr/local"' status-pkg.sh > . > build/status-pkg.sh gzip -cn pkgtools.conf.5 > > pkgtools.conf.5.gz ===> lib > Warning: Object directory not changed from original > /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgr ade/work/pkgtools-20020204/lib > /usr/local/bin/ruby -wc pkg.rb Syntax OK /usr/local/bin/ruby > -p -e 'sub %r:/usr/local:, "/usr/local"' pkg.rb > .build/p > kg.rb ... stuff> ... /usr/local/bin/ruby -p -e 'sub %r:/usr/local:, > "/usr/local"' tsort.rb > > .build > /tsort.rb > ===> misc > ===> misc/bash > Warning: Object directory not changed from original > /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgr ade/work/pkgtools-20020204/misc/bash > ===> misc/tcsh > Warning: Object directory not changed from original > /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgr ade/work/pkgtools-20020204/misc/tcsh > ===> misc/zsh > Warning: Object directory not changed from original > /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgr ade/work/pkgtools-20020204/misc/zsh > # make > # make install > ===> Installing for portupgrade-20020213.1_1 > ===> portupgrade-20020213.1_1 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1 > .6/optparse.rb - found > ===> portupgrade-20020213.1_1 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1 > .6/i386-freebsd4/fnmatch.so - found > ===> portupgrade-20020213.1_1 depends on file: > /usr/local/sbin/pkg_tarup - not > found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/sbin/pkg_tarup in > /usr/ports/sysutils/p > kg_tarup > ===> Extracting for pkg_tarup-1.2_3 > >> Checksum mismatch for pkg_tarup?rev=1.2&content-type=text%2fplain. > Make sure the Makefile and distinfo file > (/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tarup/distinfo > ) > are up to date. If you are absolutely sure you want to > override this check, type "make NO_CHECKSUM=yes [other args]". > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tarup. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tarup. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tarup. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tarup. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tarup. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tarup. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade. > # > ---- > > Now that looks like an error to me... > > If I go into the pkg_tarup port, and try installing it there, > I get the same error... I also get it on a number of other ports... > > Note that one thing that _may_ be effecting me here is the > fact that I've tried cvsupping multiple times, and make clean > multiple times, and so on -- and occasionally, for various > reasons, I've CTL-C'd it in the middle of something (a build > or a clean, not an install AFAIK -- although I did it in the > middle of a make update in /usr/ports once...) > > Still... I simply don't know where to go from here -- it > seems that everything I try ends in the same error... any hints? > > rr > > > -- > Richard Russell > Yellow Goanna Pty Ltd > e: richard@yellowgoanna.com > m: +61 412 827 805 > f: +61 8 8462 2362 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 21: 7:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB1437B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AE35D09; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:07:38 -0800 (PST) To: "Richard Russell" Cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem installing Xfree86-4 and other ports In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:18:44 +1030." <004101c1b837$8b7aafb0$0c00a8c0@albert> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:07:38 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20020218050738.32AE35D09@ptavv.es.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Richard Russell" > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:18:44 +1030 > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Was my post too long? too hard? too easy (not worth an RTFM!)? to the > wrong list? > > I'm stuck here, folks... it's a showstopper, and I have already > downloaded 800Mb ish of ports (which will cost me $A110 here) ... sigh > :) Not too long, but badly organized. Tell us the problem and attach relevant files. Don't expect us to wade through over 200 lines of text before we can figure out if we can help. Some of the edit you made toe the messages were a bit confusing to me, but the bottom line seems to be that pkg_tarup is wrong. This probably means an error occurred when fetching the file. But the file fetched in now on you system, so subsequent attempt will fail in the same manner. The files are stored in /usr/ports/distfiles. In some cases they are stored in sub-directories of distfiles. Delete the bad file from there and try again. If you have a consistent problem with a port, it is possible that the distribution file was modified without a change to the file name, but that is not the case for pkg_tarup. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 21:14: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C2437B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:14:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from csserve0.corp.us.uu.net by cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: csserve0.corp.us.UU.NET [153.39.88.140]) id QQmcrs08658; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:13:57 GMT Received: from haiti.corp.us.uu.net by csserve0.corp.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: localhost [127.0.0.1]) id QQmcrs14323; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jamgill@localhost) by haiti.corp.us.uu.net (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g1I5DS511343; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:13:29 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: haiti.corp.us.uu.net: jamgill owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:13:27 -0500 (EST) From: "jamgill@uu.net" X-Sender: jamgill@haiti.corp.us.uu.net To: Richard Russell Cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Problem installing Xfree86-4 and other ports In-Reply-To: <004101c1b837$8b7aafb0$0c00a8c0@albert> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Richard Russell wrote: > Was my post too long? too hard? too easy (not worth an RTFM!)? to the > wrong list? > > I'm stuck here, folks... it's a showstopper, and I have already > downloaded 800Mb ish of ports (which will cost me $A110 here) ... sigh > :) > ... > kg_tarup > ===> Extracting for pkg_tarup-1.2_3 > >> Checksum mismatch for pkg_tarup?rev=1.2&content-type=text%2fplain. > Make sure the Makefile and distinfo file > (/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tarup/distinfo > ) > are up to date. If you are absolutely sure you want to > override this check, type "make NO_CHECKSUM=yes [other args]". > *** Error code 1 See that "Checksum mismatch" part? That (probably) means that the port pulled down a tarball of a later version than when the port was written. I have a few suggestions that I hope can help you navigate this pass: 1) when you CVSup'd to the latest version, did you update your ports tree also? If you didn't, I would recommend doing that. Try putting the lines: *default release=cvs tag=. ports-all in your cvsupfile and updating again to get a current ports tree.* 2) you can try going into the /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tarup/ and doing `make NO_CHECKSUM=yes` but if the port has patches or other modifications to the distribution that apply to an older version you can get into trouble. Not trouble that can't be fixed by rm -rf'ing the work subdir there, but unpredictable results at the least. 3) you can pull the version of the distfile off your CD set and put it into /usr/ports/distfiles/ or mount the CD to /cdrom and install the version of the distrobution files that are already in the room. That may save you a few A$ ;-) *This is relatively safe, but if you don't have anyone to blame but yourself if you follow advice from this or any list without understanding what the suggestions will actually do ;) Have Fun, -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --gill | Tatu Ylonen, SSH 1.2.12 README: "Beware that the most effective | way for someone to decrypt your data may be with a rubber hose." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 21:27:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gecko.yellowgoanna.com (monatomic4.link.internode.on.net [150.101.99.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A698437B402 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from albert (unknown [192.168.0.12]) by gecko.yellowgoanna.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04C517D50 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:57:18 +1030 (CST) From: "Richard Russell" To: Subject: RE: Problem installing Xfree86-4 and other ports Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:57:20 +1030 Message-ID: <004501c1b83c$f06676c0$0c00a8c0@albert> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: <20020218050738.32AE35D09@ptavv.es.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Not too long, but badly organized. Tell us the problem and > attach relevant files. Don't expect us to wade through over > 200 lines of text before we can figure out if we can help. ah -- sorry ... it was rather late here at the time... :) Also, I'm new to BSD, so wasn't sure what was relevant and what was not... > > Some of the edit you made toe the messages were a bit > confusing to me, but the bottom line seems to be that > pkg_tarup is wrong. This probably means an error occurred > when fetching the file. But the file fetched in now on you > system, so subsequent attempt will fail in the same manner. indeed... > The files are stored in /usr/ports/distfiles. In some cases > they are stored in sub-directories of distfiles. Delete the > bad file from there and try again. ok -- I had done a make distclean, but it had failed after that also.... However, after manually removing said file, it works... Thanks so much. I'm very, very appreiciative of your efforts :) > If you have a consistent problem with a port, it is possible > that the distribution file was modified without a change to > the file name, but that is not the case for pkg_tarup. How would I go about finding out if that was the case? rr -- Richard Russell Yellow Goanna Pty Ltd e: richard@yellowgoanna.com m: +61 412 827 805 f: +61 8 8462 2362 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 21:28:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gecko.yellowgoanna.com (monatomic4.link.internode.on.net [150.101.99.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D8537B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:28:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from albert (unknown [192.168.0.12]) by gecko.yellowgoanna.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9740D17D50; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:58:39 +1030 (CST) From: "Richard Russell" To: "'jamgill@uu.net'" Cc: Subject: RE: Problem installing Xfree86-4 and other ports Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:58:41 +1030 Message-ID: <004601c1b83d$20781120$0c00a8c0@albert> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > See that "Checksum mismatch" part? That (probably) means > that the port > pulled down a tarball of a later version than when the port was > written. I have a few suggestions that I hope can help you > navigate this > pass: > > 1) when you CVSup'd to the latest version, did you update > your ports tree > also? If you didn't, I would recommend doing that. Try putting the > lines: > *default release=cvs tag=. > ports-all > in your cvsupfile and updating again to get a current ports tree.* I did... > > 2) you can try going into the /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tarup/ and doing > `make NO_CHECKSUM=yes` > but if the port has patches or other modifications to the distribution > that apply to an older version you can get into trouble. Not trouble > that can't be fixed by rm -rf'ing the work subdir there, but > unpredictable > results at the least. tried... failed due to a patch... > > 3) you can pull the version of the distfile off your CD set and put it > into /usr/ports/distfiles/ or mount the CD to /cdrom and install the > version of the distrobution files that are already in the > room. That may > save you a few A$ ;-) heh :) deleting it and redownloading worked -- same diff, I suspect :) Thanks again... -- Richard Russell Yellow Goanna Pty Ltd e: richard@yellowgoanna.com m: +61 412 827 805 f: +61 8 8462 2362 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 21:49:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB61B37B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:49:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.194.207] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16cgfv-0000sh-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:49:19 +0000 Received: from angel.raggedclown.net (angel.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.7]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [buffy]) with ESMTP id 76BC313040 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 06:49:18 +0100 (CET) Received: by angel.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [angel], from userid 6002) id AD0D922590; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 06:49:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 06:49:18 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make.conf, proxy and ports Message-ID: <20020218054918.GA3731@raggedclown.net> References: <7c.23136e42.29a159bc@aol.com> <200202171940.g1HJeUO02195@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de> <20020217121822.R48401@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020217121822.R48401@blossom.cjclark.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:18:22PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 08:40:30PM +0100, Thomas Schuerger wrote: > > [Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > > hi, > > > > > > I just set up a new system with FBSD 4.5 behind a proxy server/firewall and I'm having a real pain getting ports installed. > > > > > > I followed logic and created /etc/make.conf with the following lines: > > > > > > $ cat /etc/make.conf | grep _PROXY > > > FTP_PROXY= 10.100.10.100:1080 > > > HTTP_PROXY= 10.100.10.100:3128 > > > > Try using > > > > FTP_PROXY= http://10.100.10.100:1080 (http is correct here) > > HTTP_PROXY= http://10.100.10.100:3128 > > > > instead. > > Actually, try using, > > FETCH_ENV= FTP_PROXY=ftp://10.100.10.100:1080 HTTP_PROXY=http://10.100.10.100:3128 > > If you actually want it to work. > > I guess no one else is going to fix etc/defaults/make.conf now that it > is depricated. Just have to do it myself. Is it deprecated ? I must have missed that. Where was that announced (not in stable UPDATING), what are the implications ? -- Regards Cliff Sarginson -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 22: 5:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C066337B404 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:05:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020218060546.TFGR1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 06:05:46 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1I65ii33651; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:05:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:05:43 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Graham Wheeler Cc: Stuart Tanner , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lpd not reading printcap? Message-ID: <20020217220543.S48401@blossom.cjclark.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from gram@bradygirl.com on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 05:08:44PM -0600 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 05:08:44PM -0600, Graham Wheeler wrote: > Stuart Tanner wrote : > > > On 2002.02.18 09:11 Graham Wheeler wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > > I am having problems getting remote printing to work. I've done this > > > many times before successfully, and can't understand why I am now > > > having problems. > > > > > > I have a very simple /etc/printcap file, along the lines of: > > > > > > lprem:rm=printserv:sh:sf:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs > > > > > > When I start up lpd, I get two log messages: > > > > > > lpd: Cannot open /dev/lp: No such file or directory > > > > > > If I try to print to lprem, using "lp -d lprem", I get a message > > > saying the printer is not known. > > > > > > If I just use lp without a -d argument, the file gets queued, but lpd > > > again complains of being unable to open /dev/lp. > > > > > > If I make a link from /dev/lp to /dev/lpt0, then an lpc status tells > > > me that the printer may be offline. > > > > > > In short, it appears that the /etc/printcap file is being ignored by > > > lpd, and it is defaulting to /dev/lp. > > > > > > I'm running 4.5S, last cvsupped about 2 weeks ago. > > > > > > Any ideas, anyone? > > You are not telling lpd which printer to use at the other end. You > > have listed the remote machine but you don't have a rp entry. > > > > hpljiii|HP LaserJet III:\ > > :sh:\ > > :rm=ra:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ra:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > > :rp=hpljiii:\ > > :if=/usr/local/libexec/psif: > > > You're right; I had forgotten that this is needed even if the remote > printer is named lp. It's been a while. > > I used the example for a remote printer given in the default > /etc/printcap; it is also missing the rp field so its a poor > example. It's not needed when the remote is 'lp.' This works fine for me at the client, lp|hp|hpt45:\ :sh:\ :rm=blossom:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: Where, lp|local line printer:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: This is the printcap(5) on the server. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 22: 6:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E206E37B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.194.207] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16cgwf-0000WG-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 06:06:38 +0000 Received: from angel.raggedclown.net (angel.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.7]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [buffy]) with ESMTP id 8739013040 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:06:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by angel.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [angel], from userid 6002) id EDEC722590; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:06:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:06:36 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Beginner's question - Network problem Message-ID: <20020218060636.GB3731@raggedclown.net> References: <20020215182653.Y36782@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020217195934.5D5DF48449@wastegate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020217195934.5D5DF48449@wastegate.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 03:01:31PM -0500, Doug Reynolds wrote: > On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:26:53 -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > >On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 02:46:08AM +0100, Alain Fabry wrote: > >> It's a Intel EtherExpress Pro 10+ ISA card > > > >[snip] > > > >> ex: WARNING: board's EEPROM is configured for IRQ 0, using 5 > >> ex0: at port 0x200-0x20f iomem 0xcc000-0xcffff irq 5 on isa0 > >> ex0: PnP config, 16-bit bus, board id 0xfff, stepping 0xf > >> ex0: Ethernet address ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff > > > >Not good. Have you tried disabling PnP in your BIOS? > > if I can recall correctly, that board can be either PnP or jumperless. > download the dos program from intel, and set the board to where you > want it. PnP is great for PCI, but sucks for ISA, imho. > Slightly OT (since the advice is probably the right thing to try), but PnP *only* applies to ISA. It has no meaning when applied to PCI devices. In the archives somewhere is a technical explanation of how ISA PnP came about. > I've done this with all my isa network cards and never had a problem > with freebsd or any other OS for that matter. > > --- > doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net > > PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 6E7B 9993 B503 6D45 E33A 2019 26E5 C1DB > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Regards Cliff Sarginson -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 22:21:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3C137B400 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:21:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020218062132.RRXF1147.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 06:21:32 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1I6LV033702; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:21:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:21:31 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Cliff Sarginson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make.conf, proxy and ports Message-ID: <20020217222131.T48401@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <7c.23136e42.29a159bc@aol.com> <200202171940.g1HJeUO02195@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de> <20020217121822.R48401@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020218054918.GA3731@raggedclown.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020218054918.GA3731@raggedclown.net>; from csfbsd@raggedclown.net on Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 06:49:18AM +0100 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 06:49:18AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:18:22PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 08:40:30PM +0100, Thomas Schuerger wrote: > > > [Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > > > hi, > > > > > > > > I just set up a new system with FBSD 4.5 behind a proxy server/firewall and I'm having a real pain getting ports installed. > > > > > > > > I followed logic and created /etc/make.conf with the following lines: > > > > > > > > $ cat /etc/make.conf | grep _PROXY > > > > FTP_PROXY= 10.100.10.100:1080 > > > > HTTP_PROXY= 10.100.10.100:3128 > > > > > > Try using > > > > > > FTP_PROXY= http://10.100.10.100:1080 (http is correct here) > > > HTTP_PROXY= http://10.100.10.100:3128 > > > > > > instead. > > > > Actually, try using, > > > > FETCH_ENV= FTP_PROXY=ftp://10.100.10.100:1080 HTTP_PROXY=http://10.100.10.100:3128 > > > > If you actually want it to work. > > > > I guess no one else is going to fix etc/defaults/make.conf now that it > > is depricated. Just have to do it myself. > > Is it deprecated ? I must have missed that. > Where was that announced (not in stable UPDATING), what are the > implications ? There are no implications. If you look, everything in /etc/defaults/make.conf is commented out. It's purely a set of examples. But sorry, "depricated" isn't really the right term. Maybe "orphaned." It moved. It lives in /usr/share/examples/etc in -CURRENT. And all of the stuff related to ports was gutted from that version. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 17 22:37:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2197437B41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from kevcomp5 ([12.237.116.101]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020218063716.STVT2951.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@kevcomp5> for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 06:37:16 +0000 From: "Kevin Christmas" To: Subject: XFree86 Problems Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:37:07 -0600 Message-ID: <000001c1b846$b2f7a480$3701a8c0@kevcomp5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1B814.685D3480" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1B814.685D3480 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1B814.685D3480" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1B814.685D3480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am need of some help. It seems my X server is not initializing it self properly, and I can't figure out what the problem is. The main symptom is that when X starts up, the back ground is black, not grey. This progresses into GNOME, where I suspect that the background is grey, it is black. This makes GNOME unusable. This all started when I compiled QT2 libraries from user/ports. After screwing with the configuration, I just formatted and started over. So I didn't install KDE2, and went with GNOME. The problem never went away. I have a Matrox G200 with 8 megs of ram sitting in a PCI slot on an i810 motherboard. I have tried building X WITH_MATROX_GXX and with out. Anyway, here is my XF86Config and make.conf ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1B814.685D3480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello, I am need of some help.  It seems my X server is not = initializing it self properly, and I can’t figure out what the problem is.  The main symptom is that when X = starts up, the back ground is black, not grey.  This = progresses into GNOME, where I suspect that the background is grey, it is = black.  This makes GNOME unusable.  This all started when I = compiled QT2 libraries from user/ports.  After screwing with the configuration, I just formatted and started over. =  So I didn’t install KDE2, = and went with GNOME.  The problem = never went away.  I have a Matrox G200 with 8 megs of ram sitting in a PCI slot = on an i810 motherboard.  I have = tried building X WITH_MATROX_GXX and with out.  = Anyway, here is my XF86Config and make.conf

 

 

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For example, for a non-U.S.=0A= # keyboard, you will probably want to use:=0A= # Option "XkbModel" "pc102"=0A= # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:=0A= # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"=0A= #=0A= # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.=0A= # For example, a german layout can be obtained with:=0A= # Option "XkbLayout" "de"=0A= # or:=0A= # Option "XkbLayout" "de"=0A= # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"=0A= #=0A= # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and=0A= # control keys, use:=0A= # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps"=0A= =0A= # These are the default XKB settings for XFree86=0A= # Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"=0A= # Option "XkbModel" "pc101"=0A= # Option "XkbLayout" "us"=0A= # Option "XkbVariant" ""=0A= # Option "XkbOptions" ""=0A= =0A= # Option "XkbDisable"=0A= =0A= Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"=0A= Option "XkbModel" "pc104"=0A= Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl"=0A= =0A= EndSection=0A= =0A= =0A= # **********************************************************************=0A= # Core Pointer's InputDevice section=0A= # **********************************************************************=0A= =0A= Section "InputDevice"=0A= =0A= # Identifier and driver=0A= =0A= Identifier "Mouse1"=0A= Driver "mouse"=0A= Option "Protocol" "auto"=0A= Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"=0A= =0A= # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment=0A= # the following line.=0A= =0A= # Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"=0A= =0A= # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In=0A= # almost every case these lines should be omitted.=0A= =0A= # Option "BaudRate" "9600"=0A= # Option "SampleRate" "150"=0A= =0A= # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice=0A= # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)=0A= =0A= # Option "Emulate3Buttons"=0A= # Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"=0A= =0A= # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice=0A= =0A= # Option "ChordMiddle"=0A= =0A= EndSection=0A= =0A= =0A= # **********************************************************************=0A= # Other input device sections =0A= # this is optional and is required only if you=0A= # are using extended input devices. This is for example only. 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REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S=0A= # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.=0A= =0A= VertRefresh 50-160=0A= =0A= EndSection=0A= =0A= =0A= # **********************************************************************=0A= # Graphics device section=0A= # **********************************************************************=0A= =0A= # Any number of graphics device sections may be present=0A= =0A= # Standard VGA Device:=0A= =0A= Section "Device"=0A= Identifier "Standard VGA"=0A= VendorName "Unknown"=0A= BoardName "Unknown"=0A= =0A= # The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to override=0A= # the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.=0A= =0A= # Chipset "generic"=0A= =0A= # The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver=0A= # modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver=0A= # module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line=0A= # indicates which driver should interpret the information in this = section.=0A= =0A= Driver "vga"=0A= # The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices=0A= # this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device=0A= # section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI=0A= # devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not=0A= # normally be included unless there is more than one video device=0A= # intalled.=0A= =0A= # BusID "PCI:0:10:0"=0A= =0A= # VideoRam 256=0A= =0A= # Clocks 25.2 28.3=0A= =0A= EndSection=0A= =0A= # Device configured by xf86config:=0A= =0A= Section "Device"=0A= Identifier "my matrox"=0A= Driver "mga"=0A= #VideoRam 8192=0A= VideoRam 8192=0A= # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate=0A= EndSection=0A= =0A= =0A= # **********************************************************************=0A= # Screen sections=0A= # **********************************************************************=0A= =0A= # Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes=0A= # the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section=0A= # may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"=0A= # option.=0A= Section "Screen"=0A= Identifier "Screen 1"=0A= Device "my matrox"=0A= Monitor "955df"=0A= DefaultDepth 16=0A= =0A= Subsection "Display"=0A= Depth 8=0A= Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"=0A= ViewPort 0 0=0A= EndSubsection=0A= Subsection "Display"=0A= Depth 16=0A= Modes "1024x768"=0A= ViewPort 0 0=0A= EndSubsection=0A= Subsection "Display"=0A= Depth 24=0A= Modes "1280x1024"=0A= ViewPort 0 0=0A= EndSubsection=0A= EndSection=0A= =0A= # **********************************************************************=0A= # ServerLayout sections.=0A= # **********************************************************************=0A= =0A= # Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present. Each describes=0A= # the way multiple screens are organised. A specific ServerLayout=0A= # section may be specified from the X server command line with the=0A= # "-layout" option. In the absence of this, the first section is used.=0A= # When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section=0A= # is used alone.=0A= =0A= Section "ServerLayout"=0A= =0A= # The Identifier line must be present=0A= Identifier "Simple Layout"=0A= =0A= # Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally=0A= # the relative position of other screens. The four names after=0A= # primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right=0A= # of the primary screen. In this example, screen 2 is located to the=0A= # right of screen 1.=0A= =0A= Screen "Screen 1"=0A= =0A= # Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and=0A= # optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be=0A= # used. 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