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To: Alan Somers Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , FreeBSD References: <140a6398-f8ad-ecd6-2a6f-5ca28f570a64@gmail.com> From: Don Wilde Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:20:09 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B7BbL2p74z4J8H X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=W5q893ri; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dwilde1@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dwilde1@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.43 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.55)[-0.553]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[71.223.3.53:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.924]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.956]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 00:20:15 -0000 On 7/16/20 4:55 PM, Alan Somers wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:47 PM Don Wilde > wrote: > > > On 7/16/20 1:28 PM, Alan Somers wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:20 PM Don Wilde > > wrote: >> >> The [deleted] ones in Redmond have done it again. My multi-OS >> GRUB2 boot >> loader is gone, and in its place is a 500M partition called >> 'Windows >> boot loader'. >> >> The purpose is to force us to look at MS' new version of >> Edge. All my >> old boot files are gone. >> >> It's taken me much of the morning to get underneath this, >> since on this >> unit my only OS (other than Doze 10) with a WM and GUI is Ubuntu. >> >> That's the last time I will allow this, and I'm calling those >> [deleted]s >> tomorrow to give them a piece of my mind. After that I will >> erase every >> vestige of that obscene OS from my disk. >> >> -- >> Don Wilde >> **************************************************** >> * What is the Internet of Things but a system * >> * of systems including humans?  * >> **************************************************** >> >> >> Edge?  I thought that was a browser.  What does it have to do >> with boot loaders? >> -Alan > It is. They over-wrote my boot loader with a special package > touting their upgrade and its features. > > AUTOEXEC.bat is no longer sufficient for them! > > The only way to get out of it was to reboot to a different disk. > By installing a new copy of Ubuntu from DVD on a portion of that > drive, I was able to get to the rest of my disk through its GRUB2 > (which had been trashed by MS). > > I sent a really pointed message to MS "Senior Technical Advisors" > but nobody (of more than a dozen who were on-line and saw it) > responded. I hope nobody commits seppuku, but I'll bet there will > be some resignations. > > MS Windows is the toxic RoundUp of the software world, and 10 is > the most egregious one yet. > > > Are you saying that they overwrite the bootloader in order to display > some kind of popup add before the main OS loads?  That makes no sense > whatsoever.  It is the crazy ravings of a madman.  Except, I know Don > to be reliable. There's definitely a madman involved with this story > somehow, but I don't think it's Don. > > -Alan Thanks, Alan! After that one, I'm not even sure. From what others have said, I guess I've been lucky on this. Then again, I've been dodging MS bullets since the CP/M days... -- Don Wilde **************************************************** * What is the Internet of Things but a system * * of systems including humans? * ****************************************************