From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jul 12 14:43:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from freedom.cybertouch.org (freedom.cybertouch.org [216.183.2.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB4E14D30 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@freedom.cybertouch.org) Received: from localhost (lnb@localhost) by freedom.cybertouch.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA91855; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:43:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Lanny Baron To: Alex Zepeda Cc: Mike Avery , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Certification...again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: City: Thorhill Province: Ontario Postal: L4J 6X4 Tel: 905-763-1900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In no way was I referring to TekMetrics. I was referring to FreeBSD itself offering the certification and the course that would lead up to it (if you needed the background material). I still hope that the FreeBSD Project will seriously consider a REAL certification that is not easy to get, requires sufficient knowledge on running the system, complete networking (deep level of TCP/IP), mail for an organization...etc... This could also lead to different levels of Certs. depending on what route you take. Lanny On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Mike Avery wrote: > Lots of anti-certification people are motivated by the sour-grapes > syndrome... "I can't get it, therefore it must not be any good". And > many people overlook what the certifications were intended to do. Not hardly, TekMetrics offers free certification; try it out (www.tekmetrics.com). It's a fucking joke. Not only does their whole registration process fail to work properly (hey, I got a transcript id of 0; which is apparently invalid :) ), but their tests are a joke. For the hell of it, I took the OOP/C++ and Linux Administration tests. I know less about the anal retentive univ. level C++ "science of desiging a program" than I do about Linux; so it's easier for me to grab questions about the Linux test and say they were stupid. But considering that they had a handful of questions (out of 65) that related purely to C, I was disappointed. The Linux Administration test was far worse. It covered a lot of topics most, if not all, garden variety admins would never need to know (namely X) in depth; and had a single question pertaining to Apache, one to Samba, and two about filesystem names. The crowning blow was the last question, which asked about the difference between Gnome and KDE. I haven't taken any pay certifications (well, gosh, on a student's budget that comes as no suprise to me). But, I figure, the comercial ones can't be that much more useful; and if your employer/employer-to-be really wants you to be certified, they might even offer to pay the costs related with getting you certified. Also, I sincerely hope that Tekmetrics never, ever, creates a FreeBSD certification test, it would only be comparable to a black eye. - alex You better believe that marijuana can cause castration. Just suppose your girlfriend gets the munchies! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message