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Date:      Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:44:54 -0800
From:      "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
To:        "Brett Glass" <brett@lariat.org>, "Giorgos Keramidas" <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Judge: "Gates Was Main Culprit"
Message-ID:  <002501bf2e17$f06946e0$021d85d1@youwant.to>
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991112222541.0431f140@localhost>

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> At 04:46 PM 11/12/1999 -0800, David Schwartz wrote:
>
> >         Ahh, I see. Superior has nothing to do with user
> experience. Superior is to
> >be judged by experts according to arcane principles. That's much
> better than
> >letting the market decide.
>
> The market had no opportunity to decide, as Judge Jackson has
> handily pointed out.
>
> I could comment on some of your other bogus assertions as well,
> but I suspect
> that there is no point. I've reviewed the messages you've posted
> in this and other
> forums during the past six months (Web search engines are VERY
> handy for this!), and
> they're 100% pro-NT and pro-Microsoft. In some, you make rather
> lame excuses for
> serious security holes in Microsoft products; in others, you bash
> Linux, FreeBSD,
> and other non-Microsoft OSes.

	Actually, I just oppose government intervention in the marketplace. If you
search back further, you'll find that I've made numerous similar comments
about other antitrust cases.

	As for the "lame excuses for security holes in Microsoft products", I can
only assume that you're referring to a problem where third-party drivers
created objects and didn't set their permissions. That's not even a security
hole in a Microsoft product, so I question the relevancy.

	I do consider ActiveX overall a security hole though. Though I suppose it's
no worse than downloading software over the net in general.

	As for the IE security holes, well, pretty much every technology has had
similar security holes. The only security hole to date to appear in a
Microsoft product that I consider inexcusable or indicative of a serious
lack of proper design practice was the hole in 98's PWS and Microsoft's
response to that. If you recall, Microsoft's response was essentially 'if
you want a secure operating system for hostile networks, we offer NT'.
Obviously, that's pretty inexcusable if you're promoting 98 as making the
Internet easier!

	As for bashing Linux and FreeBSD, let me state outright that I love them,
use them, and recommend them to pretty much everyone. When I do bash them, I
bash specific defects in forums that mainly reach the developers who could
fix those defects. My goal is solely to push them to improve.

	So, yes, I 'bash' FreeBSD for not having kernel threads. I 'bash' Linux for
eating too much system CPU when you have tens of thousands of TCP
connections. But would I like to run a production web, print, or file server
on NT? Nope. Not me. I still think Windows is the best operating system for
the desktop.

> Folks, I think that what we have here is a "Barkto" -- a Microsoft mole.

	Do I get paid for that? That would be nice.

	DS



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