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Date:      Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:37:15 -0800
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" <jeroen@vangelderen.org>
Cc:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: inheriting the "nodump" flag ?
Message-ID:  <3A33BF4B.97EE1BCC@elischer.org>
References:  <97668.976451080@critter> <3A33BCCE.844B35B4@vangelderen.org>

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"Jeroen C. van Gelderen" wrote:
> 
>
> This answer does not address the real point Julian is trying
> to make. Trying to fix a buggy dump implementation by patching
> the kernel is the wrong approach. It doesn't matter how peculiar
> the tree walker is, if it's buggy the fixing needs to be done
> there.

thanks:
well the patch is there on the URL given below.
I fully support implementing it on FreeBSD as well.
(with a little testing)

> 
> It looks like NetBSD have already addressed the problem a
> year ago:
> 
>  http://lists.openresources.com/NetBSD/tech-kern/msg00453.html
> 
> for the beginning of a thread discussing the problem. This
> was the first hit Google returned for "nodump flag". Basic
> research is cheap these days...
> 
> A look at the NetBSD PR in question (6705) reveals:
> http://www.NetBSD.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=6705
> [...]
> >Release-Note:
> >Audit-Trail:
> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
> State-Changed-By: bouyer
> State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 9 09:32:08 PST 1999
> State-Changed-Why:
> Functionality added [to dump I presume], but differently.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> It seems that fixing dump is the correct approach. Changing
> the semantics to nodump almost certainly is not as Julian
> pointed out in his other mail (<3A336EA3.9F1FE318@elischer.org>).
> 
> I can now even add another reason why changing the kernel isn't
> such a good plan: inter-BSD compatibility.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jeroen
> --
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