From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 19 18:28:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B1F4CE0 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1914211F5 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBF8E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.251.248.224]) (authenticated bits=128) by land.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0JIS9Kr017625; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:28:09 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s0JIS9Gn011781; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:28:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0JIRoHI073294; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:28:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201401191828.s0JIRoHI073294@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Newsreader issues From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:13:55 GMT." Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:27:50 +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:28:25 -0000 Walter Hurry wrote: > I have been using the Pan newsreader for years, very happily. > > Unfortunately it won't compile on FreeBSD 10. I have raised a PR: 182203. > > In the meantime, two questions: > > Is there a workaround or patch available? > > If not, can anyone recommend a GUI reader for Usenet? I don't need > binaries, just text. I used /usr/ports/news/slrn many years back, it does at least compile & run on 10-RC5 (I just checked). (but I'm behind a fire wall so I didnt test further trying for a news spool) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Interleave replies below like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text, not quoted-printable, HTML, base64, or multipart/alternative. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 19 18:43:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6505E3B7 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20463131B for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.139.104] (helo=tiny-r255948) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1W4xLF-0006LR-As; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:43:29 +0100 Received: from tiny-r255948 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s0JIhU7Z000919; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:43:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3/Submit) id s0JIhTt2000918; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:43:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny-r255948: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:43:28 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: Newsreader issues Message-ID: <20140119184328.GA911@tiny-r255948> References: <201401191828.s0JIRoHI073294@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201401191828.s0JIRoHI073294@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r235646 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.139.104 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Walter Hurry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:43:38 -0000 El día Sunday, January 19, 2014 a las 07:27:50PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey escribió: > Walter Hurry wrote: > > I have been using the Pan newsreader for years, very happily. > > > > Unfortunately it won't compile on FreeBSD 10. I have raised a PR: 182203. > > > > In the meantime, two questions: > > > > Is there a workaround or patch available? > > > > If not, can anyone recommend a GUI reader for Usenet? I don't need > > binaries, just text. > > I used /usr/ports/news/slrn many years back, I'm used to use ports/news/nn for many*many years now. But, it is more for vi minded people than for mouse users. Be warned :-) matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz, , http://www.unixarea.de/ f: +49-170-4527211 UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 19 19:57:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4495FA21 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from snt0-omc4-s14.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s14.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5391816 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT404-EAS379 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s14.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:56:52 -0800 X-TMN: [VvjSCbiot9L6mlAvXd2eftkdG6idKyMW] X-Originating-Email: [elifire_ng@hotmail.com] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Class: From: Elijah Yakubu Subject: Need help --> Mozilla, no running window. Firefox, even less... Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:56:38 +0100 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2014 19:56:52.0598 (UTC) FILETIME=[99071960:01CF1550] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:57:59 -0000 I've not been able download Firefox on my windows hd7 phone. Pls what can I= do? =0D=0DSent from my Windows Phone= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 19 20:07:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A72ED63 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA92418BD for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.130.40] (helo=tiny-r255948) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1W4yew-00013P-DJ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:07:54 +0100 Received: from tiny-r255948 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s0JK7pEc001223; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:07:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3/Submit) id s0JK7oj2001222; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:07:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny-r255948: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:07:50 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Elijah Yakubu Subject: Re: Need help --> Mozilla, no running window. Firefox, even less... Message-ID: <20140119200749.GA1214@tiny-r255948> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r235646 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.130.40 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:07:57 -0000 El día Sunday, January 19, 2014 a las 08:56:38PM +0100, Elijah Yakubu escribió: > I've not been able download Firefox on my windows hd7 phone. Pls what can I do? > > Sent from my Windows Phone You should ask Microsoft or your local reseller to install FreeBSD on the device. Sorry, could not resist matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz, , http://www.unixarea.de/ f: +49-170-4527211 UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 19 22:29:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E02973B for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 22:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E07F01200 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 22:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W50ru-0001ON-FG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:29:26 +0100 Received: from 65.75.36.70 ([65.75.36.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:29:26 +0100 Received: from gyliamos by 65.75.36.70 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:29:26 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Will Parsons Subject: Re: Newsreader issues Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 22:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <201401191828.s0JIRoHI073294@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.75.36.70 User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: gyliamos@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 22:29:34 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Walter Hurry wrote: >> I have been using the Pan newsreader for years, very happily. >> >> Unfortunately it won't compile on FreeBSD 10. I have raised a PR: 182203. >> >> In the meantime, two questions: >> >> Is there a workaround or patch available? >> >> If not, can anyone recommend a GUI reader for Usenet? I don't need >> binaries, just text. > > I used /usr/ports/news/slrn many years back, > it does at least compile & run on 10-RC5 (I just checked). > (but I'm behind a fire wall so I didnt test further trying for a news spool) slrn is a text-mode rather than a GUI reader, but it is an excellent newsreader for text groups. I've used it for years (typically in an xterm) and would highly recommend it to the OP. -- Will From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 20 10:06:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C75D6A65; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from potato.growveg.org (potato.growveg.org [62.49.247.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81C081768; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from john by potato.growveg.org with local (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1W5BAG-000Fdi-FI; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:29:04 +0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:29:04 +0000 From: John To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: dns/bind-tools fails to build on 10-stable Message-ID: <20140120092904.GA13438@potato.growveg.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Sender: John X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: john@potato.growveg.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on potato.growveg.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:06:02 -0000 Hello list, On a new 10-stable system, I can't seem to build bind tools. I get the following error: checking host system type... x86_64-portbld-freebsd10.0 checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking how to print strings... printf checking for gcc... cc checking whether the C compiler works... no configure: error: in `/usr/ports/dns/bind-tools/work/bind-9.9.4-P2': configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to mat@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/dns/bind-tools/work/bind-9.9.4-P2/config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. a /usr/local/sbin/pkg-static info -g -Ea). *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools 10-stable is r260886. The ports tree is 340327. Before I directly bother the maintainer, I wondered if this is a known issue? thanks, -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 20 10:28:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7820CEF3 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eu1sys200aog123.obsmtp.com (eu1sys200aog123.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C997A18F8 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob123.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUtz6Qj9uGGxWGfD+pLCm1GzWdToUUWUQ@postini.com; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:28:25 UTC Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id x12so6583448wgg.13 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:28:18 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to; bh=CHlQAACE4X8oT0r7rjqV5a3fw7oKjdD8xdUssjXLTfY=; b=TiO6jtg+kv73Y9zmOKPZM1z7fZKeRjUmpqe+QbUPP1VMGBEZlx6DQXw/qOmVdNY+vL ca/WdfilNnuOlxyxpl9/wnWNsXIFWWVqP6K0x4eJe0zWWH7xhfqbz9gdh5HHIELMwMaV QywdrgZkTyv0kUyqSfh04i/PHC1DSng462S6is1NrcQ6xk2yFR1gPN4OmaO5A/2gLUWE 4WXDHVeEO1ws0YUPIwWFFgD+wb9GuWOoSv0WF8sgh0LgnJNMaMTxsGSub5kkCcmQjK3q DFX8HFh/c6sfhUdyPvZCd/0BJO7aLUYnctjiTa4NUtXGa2djInICSN8ItQRTnQ2gKeQ1 U76g== X-Received: by 10.180.98.42 with SMTP id ef10mr6093412wib.49.1390213364351; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:22:44 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlJzrsyJc39KEFPM8utcGpc6wWdy+hgYjSJML6WBArZYO3hfekBCgBG8LVTTadSR2o01WEVqAmooTY6ghNu9j+8xqE4TDbE4y8KhiU2yuCfrEsFi8sGPT8ROL6lE/mVEqAK8nQhiTs+G8evvLT4Oc3hlgqOnsPM4dMxKEZJopmyEVPBAA+ijGQceJd0o6PqbIuW6erH X-Received: by 10.180.98.42 with SMTP id ef10mr6093409wib.49.1390213364283; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:22:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.187.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z2sm1378909wiy.11.2014.01.20.02.22.42 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:22:43 -0800 (PST) Sender: Anton Shterenlikht Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id s0KAMe6h005897 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:22:40 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6/Submit) id s0KAMecZ005896 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:22:40 GMT (envelope-from mexas) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:22:43 -0800 (PST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201401201022.s0KAMecZ005896@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: texlive fonts configuration: cannot find Arial, Times X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:28:26 -0000 Hi I'm starting to use texlive. I installed texlive-full-20120701. I need to build a document with these declarations: \usepackage{fontspec} \usepackage{subfigure} \setmainfont{Times New Roman} \setsansfont{Arial} Which seems to be a new standard way of choosing fonts. I get these errors with both lualatex and xelatex: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! ! fontspec error: "font-not-found" ! ! The font "TimesNewRoman" cannot be found. ! ! See the fontspec documentation for further information. ! ! For immediate help type H . !............................................... l.28 \setmainfont{Times New Roman} !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! ! fontspec error: "font-not-found" ! ! The font "Arial" cannot be found. ! ! See the fontspec documentation for further information. ! ! For immediate help type H . !............................................... l.29 \setsansfont{Arial} I presume these basic fonts should be available as part of the default installation, right? So probably I haven't configured texlive fonts correctly? I've these directories: $ ls /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/fonts/ afm enc misc ovf sfd truetype cid fea ofm ovp source type1 cmap map opentype pk tfm vf But not sure if this is enough. Please advise Many thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 20 10:41:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCB273EC for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F0461A36 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D3BC3CFCA; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:41:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0KAeeQD004608; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:40:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:40:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: mexas@bris.ac.uk Subject: Re: texlive fonts configuration: cannot find Arial, Times Message-Id: <20140120114040.a69491ce.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201401201022.s0KAMecZ005896@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <201401201022.s0KAMecZ005896@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:41:12 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:22:43 -0800 (PST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Hi > > I'm starting to use texlive. > I installed texlive-full-20120701. > > I need to build a document with these > declarations: > > \usepackage{fontspec} > \usepackage{subfigure} > \setmainfont{Times New Roman} > \setsansfont{Arial} > > [...] > > I presume these basic fonts should be available > as part of the default installation, right? I don't think so. Those are fonts made by MICROS~1 to avoid licensing real fonts. :-) > So probably I haven't configured texlive fonts correctly? I'm not sure in how far TeXlive is able to pick up fonts installed on the system (usually fonts for use in X), but maybe you could try installing the "webfonts" package? It helps to make web pages look better when they have been "optimized" for use with "Windows" (i. e., explicitely requiring things like "Arial"). The results can then be found in the /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/ directory. > I've these directories: > > $ ls /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/fonts/ > afm enc misc ovf sfd truetype > cid fea ofm ovp source type1 > cmap map opentype pk tfm vf > > But not sure if this is enough. Those are the fonts to be used with Metafont. As I said, I'm not sure if those can interact in some way with other fonts in the systmm. Just as a sidenote: If you want a good-looking serif font, just use the CMR (Computer Modern Roman) that is the default font for many LaTeX cases. If you want a Helvetica-like font (which "Arial" is a poor replacement for), try this: \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[scaled]{helvet} \renewcommand{\familydefault}{\sfdefault} Note that I'm using this when I need a sans serif font, and it works in teTeX. Not sure if it will also work in TeXlive, but I assume this functionality has been kept. Also note that it isn't "the real Helvetica", but a very good variation that comes with ligatures and looks _much_ better than shabby "Arial". Maybe if you use \setmainfont{cmr} \setsansfont{helvet} you can get the same result? Again, note that I haven't tested this. But giving it a try isn't a hard exercise. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 20 10:47:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B628500 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.bsdbox.co (122-149-22-79.static.dsl.dodo.com.au [122.149.22.79]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAA951A80 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (122-149-22-79.static.dsl.dodo.com.au [122.149.22.79]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdbox.co (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 18E7E238D63 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52DCFD62.5020603@bsdbox.co> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:41:38 +1100 From: nano User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Do not define STAGEDIR in command line Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:47:31 -0000 Trying to perform reinstall of all ports with "portmaster -f" after upgrading to 10.0-RELEASE but am running into build errors: ===> $PORTNAME Do not define STAGEDIR in command line. *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/$PORTSCATEGORY/$PORTSDIR Never encountered this before and not sure what to do about it. Any fixes? Thanks. -- syn.bsdbox.co From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 20 11:04:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34DFA718 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [37.59.62.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1C41CD0 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr185083.univ-rennes1.fr (mr185083.univ-rennes1.fr [129.20.185.83]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CEE2C2884; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:04:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mr185083 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mr185083.univ-rennes1.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B3070B9; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:04:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:04:50 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Newsreader issues Message-ID: <20140120120450.18c420cc@mr185083> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (smtp.lamaiziere.net [0.0.0.0]); Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:04:50 +0100 (CET) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:04:59 -0000 Le Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:13:55 +0000 (UTC), Walter Hurry a écrit : > If not, can anyone recommend a GUI reader for Usenet? I don't need > binaries, just text. I use XPN, in ports. Not the best newsreader but it does the job. Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 20 12:36:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FC65B1E for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (pop3.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CF401B37 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9219 invoked by uid 89); 20 Jan 2014 10:32:07 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO AHMBLTPC) (ahmet@ihlas.net.tr@10.11.0.69) by pop3.ihlas.net.tr with SMTP; 20 Jan 2014 10:32:06 +0200 From: "Ahmet Bulut" To: , References: <102201ce0478$23453d90$69cfb8b0$@ihlas.net.tr> <44mwvh5lfn.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <10a201ce049d$6c4375a0$44ca60e0$@ihlas.net.tr> <010801cf11ed$03a99340$0afcb9c0$@ihlas.net.tr> <20140116222918.319028hnbra5z85c@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: about pfctl Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:31:48 +0200 Message-ID: <042601cf15ba$1a6fab20$4f4f0160$@ihlas.net.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIbLtbCOoJnpXUFyQfCc2GuVoZDaQGMf7/8AmhsIMMC+t4bgwKCA0i6AypODV+ZkDBzcA== Content-Language: tr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:36:36 -0000 Hi, When I put pfctl -vT show -t mytable, result is same, can not see user connection details on FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE. Thank you very much for your kindly helps, Ahmet Bulut =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Michael Powell Sent: 16 Ocak 2014 Per=BAembe 22:44 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: about pfctl Toomas Aas wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 Ahmet Bulut wrote: >=20 >> I have a serious problem about pfctl statics. When I put "pfctl -t=20 >> tablename -vT show" I can not see the statics for each ip. >> >> I am getting the results like below, >> >> 192.168.3.115 >> Cleared: Wed Jan 15 13:33:11 2014 >> 192.168.3.116 >> Cleared: Wed Jan 15 13:33:11 2014 >> 192.168.3.117 >> Cleared: Wed Jan 15 13:33:11 2014 >> 192.168.3.118 >> Cleared: Wed Jan 15 13:33:11 2014 >> 192.168.3.239 >> Cleared: Wed Jan 15 13:33:11 2014 >> 192.168.3.242 >> Cleared: Wed Jan 15 13:33:11 2014 >=20 > Me too. The command given by Ahmet works as expected on FreeBSD 8.4,=20 > but not on 10.0-RC5. >=20 > The pfctl manpage has an example of slightly different syntax: > # pfctl -t tablename -vTshow >=20 > ...but that misbehaves exactly the same way. >=20 Does is behave differently if you do: pfctl -T show -t irchost - where 'irchost' is the table name for your table? That is what I do, but it is also on version 9.2 Release. -Mike _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 20 12:51:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA6EBDE1 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42::50ed:8591]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7799D1D7D for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xdsl-78-34-138-66.netcologne.de ([78.34.138.66] helo=dijkstra.cruwe.de); authenticated by wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1W5EKP-0001L7-7a; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:51:45 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:51:40 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: texlive fonts configuration: cannot find Arial, Times Message-ID: <20140120135140.0aafbaaf@dijkstra.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <20140120114040.a69491ce.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <201401201022.s0KAMecZ005896@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20140120114040.a69491ce.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;cjr@cruwe.de;1390222308;cbac98aa; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:51:48 -0000 On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:40:40 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:22:43 -0800 (PST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > Hi > > > > I'm starting to use texlive. > > I installed texlive-full-20120701. > > > > I need to build a document with these > > declarations: > > > > \usepackage{fontspec} > > \usepackage{subfigure} > > \setmainfont{Times New Roman} > > \setsansfont{Arial} > > > > [...] > > > > I presume these basic fonts should be available > > as part of the default installation, right? > > I don't think so. Those are fonts made by MICROS~1 to avoid > licensing real fonts. :-) > > > > > So probably I haven't configured texlive fonts correctly? > > I'm not sure in how far TeXlive is able to pick up fonts > installed on the system (usually fonts for use in X), but > maybe you could try installing the "webfonts" package? It > helps to make web pages look better when they have been > "optimized" for use with "Windows" (i. e., explicitely > requiring things like "Arial"). The results can then be > found in the /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/ directory. > > > > > I've these directories: > > > > $ ls /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/fonts/ > > afm enc misc ovf > > sfd truetype cid fea > > ofm ovp source type1 > > cmap map opentype pk > > tfm vf > > > > But not sure if this is enough. > > Those are the fonts to be used with Metafont. As I said, > I'm not sure if those can interact in some way with other > fonts in the systmm. > > > > Just as a sidenote: > > If you want a good-looking serif font, just use the CMR > (Computer Modern Roman) that is the default font for many > LaTeX cases. If you want a Helvetica-like font (which "Arial" > is a poor replacement for), try this: > > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage[scaled]{helvet} > \renewcommand{\familydefault}{\sfdefault} > > Note that I'm using this when I need a sans serif font, and > it works in teTeX. Not sure if it will also work in TeXlive, > but I assume this functionality has been kept. > > Also note that it isn't "the real Helvetica", but a very good > variation that comes with ligatures and looks _much_ better > than shabby "Arial". > > Maybe if you use > > \setmainfont{cmr} > \setsansfont{helvet} > > you can get the same result? Again, note that I haven't tested > this. But giving it a try isn't a hard exercise. :-) > > > If by some reasons such as e.g. "customer demand" you are forced to use fonts normally not available in common latex, you can try xetex. Then, you have all fonts available which are pulled in by fc-cache and declare for instance \setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Avenir LT Std 35 Light} Cheers, -- Christopher TZ: GMT + 1h GnuPG/GPG: 0xE8DE2C14 FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #1 r256184: Thu Oct 10 19:12:54 CEST 2013 cjr@dijkstra.cruwe.de:/usr/obj/usr/home/cjr/media/src/freebsd/base/stable/9/sys/GEN_WDTRACE Punctuation matters: "Lets eat Grandma." or "Lets eat, Grandma." - Punctuation saves lives. "A panda eats shoots and leaves." or "A panda eats, shoots, and leaves." - Punctuation teaches proper biology. "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." (RFC 1925) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 20 19:26:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E6DD703; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from potato.growveg.org (potato.growveg.org [62.49.247.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E597211F3; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from john by potato.growveg.org with local (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1W5KUJ-00023x-HX; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:26:23 +0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:26:23 +0000 From: John To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dns/bind-tools fails to build on 10-stable Message-ID: <20140120192623.GA83718@potato.growveg.org> References: <20140120092904.GA13438@potato.growveg.org> <52DD676C.5090007@daemonic.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52DD676C.5090007@daemonic.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Sender: John X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: john@potato.growveg.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on potato.growveg.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:26:27 -0000 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 07:14:04PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrote: > On 01/20/14 10:29, John wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > On a new 10-stable system, I can't seem to build bind tools. I get the following > > error: > > > > checking host system type... x86_64-portbld-freebsd10.0 > > checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes > > checking how to print strings... printf > > checking for gcc... cc > > checking whether the C compiler works... no > > configure: error: in `/usr/ports/dns/bind-tools/work/bind-9.9.4-P2': > > configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables > > See `config.log' for more details > > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > > Please report the problem to mat@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the > > "/usr/ports/dns/bind-tools/work/bind-9.9.4-P2/config.log" including the > > output > > of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to > > provide > > an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. a > > /usr/local/sbin/pkg-static info -g -Ea). > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > make: stopped in /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools > > > > 10-stable is r260886. The ports tree is 340327. Before I directly bother > > the maintainer, I wondered if this is a known issue? > > > > thanks, > > > > That is a rather strange error. Can you provide config.log together > with /etc/make.conf and options for bind-tools? > Regards! > -- > Niclas Hello, thanks for looking. I "fixed" the problem - looking in config.log, I noticed this: configure:3284: checking build system type configure:3298: result: x86_64-portbld-freebsd10.0 configure:3318: checking host system type configure:3331: result: x86_64-portbld-freebsd10.0 configure:3352: checking whether make sets $(MAKE) configure:3374: result: yes configure:3442: checking how to print strings configure:3469: result: printf configure:3538: checking for gcc configure:3565: result: cc configure:3794: checking for C compiler version configure:3803: cc --version >&5 FreeBSD clang version 3.3 (tags/RELEASE_33/final 183502) 20130610 Target: x86_64-unknown-freebsd10.0 Thread model: posix configure:3814: $? = 0 configure:3803: cc -v >&5 FreeBSD clang version 3.3 (tags/RELEASE_33/final 183502) 20130610 Target: x86_64-unknown-freebsd10.0 Thread model: posix configure:3814: $? = 0 configure:3803: cc -V >&5 cc: error: argument to '-V' is missing (expected 1 value) cc: error: no input files configure:3814: $? = 1 configure:3803: cc -qversion >&5 cc: error: no input files configure:3814: $? = 1 configure:3834: checking whether the C compiler works configure:3856: cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -L/usr/lib -lgssapi_krb5 -Wl,-rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib conftest.c >&5 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgssapi_krb5 cc: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation) configure:3860: $? = 1 configure:3898: result: no configure: failed program was: | /* confdefs.h */ | #define PACKAGE_NAME "" | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "" | #define PACKAGE_VERSION "" | #define PACKAGE_STRING "" | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT "" | #define PACKAGE_URL "" | /* end confdefs.h. */ | Looked in options and gssapi was enabled by default ( was there after make rmconfig-recursive ) and i don't use kerebos so disabled it, now it builds. Enabled options resulting in successful build are IPv6 SSL and THREADS. Thanks anyway, hope this proves useful to someone. I can post the entire log but it is huge. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 20 19:43:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEEE9516; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22b.google.com (mail-la0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F09821399; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f43.google.com with SMTP id er20so5864124lab.2 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:43:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=eDSTKTmUz4ZPNJQMfTp0GM/3P1faNRquKqjQeTLDmn8=; b=JUhhYfWYomMDKWnsDPXgu/XE8KxL5G0gSoYZtCRLf9FXvJKUP7on0I0tbZ73quvE4B 3+7r66RjmZ5JIDW5NugFjpOeiRowBv4Ig7sOvv2/4dUgUZ+PC0FMADxGt7/Yn3dJSV4l +iQmMsOubjQZzphUvUjW5Ayy7VeV+OfoSDroXUxaP24YmNGWEdJ06XM32sa5jQchDezv dFAHkAfOCXUjd/mN5pxWa4JaaMNf2H4oWTNnHYSa6G3t0BQaaH0LrbhwhChpfdFD8JjJ y2XZKkVZTIFy8DjMuFHC/V/JwetuyuqHS087MR6g5HGe+svWnmRI3+7lASfZP0uPxx0P 7Z8Q== X-Received: by 10.112.159.69 with SMTP id xa5mr47038lbb.89.1390247005955; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:43:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.129.136 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:42:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140120162953.GA7750@glenbarber.us> References: <20140120162953.GA7750@glenbarber.us> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:42:45 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE Now Available To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:43:28 -0000 Congratulations to the FreeBSD Core Team on this milestone!! On 20 January 2014 19:29, Glen Barber wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team is pleased to announce the > availability > of FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE. This is the first release of the stable/10 > branch. > > Some of the highlights: > > * GCC is no longer installed by default on architectures where > clang(1) is the default compiler. > > * Unbound has been imported to the base system as the local caching > DNS resolver. > > * BIND has been removed from the base system. > > * make(1) has been replaced with bmake(1), obtained from the NetBSD > Project. > > * pkg(7) is now the default package management utility. > > * pkg_add(1), pkg_delete(1), and related tools have been removed. > > * Major enhancements in virtualization, including the addition of > bhyve(8), virtio(4), and native paravirtualized drivers providing > support for FreeBSD as a guest operating system on Microsoft > Hyper-V. > > * TRIM support for Solid State Drive has been added to ZFS. > > * Support for the high-performance LZ4 compression algorithm has > been added to ZFS. > > For a complete list of new features and known problems, please see the > online release notes and errata list, available at: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html > http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/10.0R/errata.html > > For more information about FreeBSD release engineering activities, > please see: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/releng/ > > Availability > ------------- > > FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE is now available for the amd64, i386, ia64, powerpc, > powerpc64, and sparc64 architectures. > > FreeBSD 10.0 can be installed from bootable ISO images or over the > network. Some architectures also support installing from a USB memory > stick. The required files can be downloaded via FTP as described in the > section below. While some of the smaller FTP mirrors may not carry all > architectures, they will all generally contain the more common ones such > as amd64 and i386. > > SHA256 and MD5 hashes for the release ISO and memory stick images are > included at the bottom of this message. > > The purpose of the images provided as part of the release are as follows: > > dvd1: This contains everything necessary to install the base FreeBSD > operating system, the documentation, and a small set of pre-built > packages aimed at getting a graphical workstation up and running. > It also supports booting into a "livefs" based rescue mode. This > should be all you need if you can burn and use DVD-sized media. > > disc1: This contains the base FreeBSD operating system. It also support= s > booting into a "livefs" based rescue mode. There are no pre-buil= t > packages. > > bootonly: This supports booting a machine using the CDROM drive but > does not contain the support for installing FreeBSD from the > CD itself. You would need to perform a network based install > (e.g. from an FTP server) after booting from the CD. > > memstick: This can be written to an USB memory stick (flash drive) and > used to do an install on machines capable of booting off USB > drives. It also supports booting into a "livefs" based rescue > mode. There are no pre-built packages. > > As one example of how to use the memstick image, assuming the USB drive > appears as /dev/da0 on your machine something like this should work: > > # dd if=3DFreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=3D/dev/da0 bs=3D10= 240 > conv=3Dsync > > Be careful to make sure you get the target (of=3D) correct. > > FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE can also be purchased on CD-ROM or DVD from several > vendors. One of the vendors that will be offering FreeBSD 10.0-based > products is: > > ~ FreeBSD Mall, Inc. http://www.freebsdmall.com/ > > FTP > --- > > FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE may be downloaded via ftp from the following site: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/10.0/ > > However before trying this site, please check your regional mirror(s) > first by going to: > > ftp://ftp..FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD > > Any additional mirror sites will be labeled ftp2, ftp3 and so on. > > More information about FreeBSD mirror sites can be found at: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html > > For instructions on installing FreeBSD or updating an existing machine to > 10.0-RELEASE please see: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/10.0R/installation.html > > Important note to freebsd-update(8) users: Please be sure to follow the > instructions in the following FreeBSD Errata Notices before upgrading > the system to 10.0-RELEASE: > > o EN-13:04.freebsd-update: > > http://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-13:04.freebsd-updat= e.asc > > o EN-13:05.freebsd-update: > > http://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-13:05.freebsd-updat= e.asc > > Support > ------- > > FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE will be supported until 31 January 2015. > The End-of-Life dates can be found at: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/security/ > > Other Projects Based on FreeBSD > ------------------------------- > > There are many "third party" Projects based on FreeBSD. The Projects > range from re-packaging FreeBSD into a more "novice friendly" distributio= n > to making FreeBSD available on Amazon's EC2 infrastructure. For more > information about these Third Party Projects see: > > http://wiki.FreeBSD.org/3rdPartyProjects > > Acknowledgments > --------------- > > Many companies donated equipment, network access, or man-hours to > support the release engineering activities for FreeBSD 10.0 including > The FreeBSD Foundation, Yahoo!, NetApp, Internet Systems Consortium, > ByteMark Hosting, Sentex Communications, New York Internet, Juniper > Networks, NLNet, and iXsystems. > > The release engineering team for 10.0-RELEASE includes: > > Ken Smith Release Engineering Lead > Marcus von Appen Release Engineering > Glen Barber Release Engineering, 10.0-RELEASE > Release Engineer > Konstantin Belousov Release Engineering > Joel Dahl Release Engineering > Baptiste Daroussin Package Building > Bryan Drewery Package Building > Marc Fonvieille Release Engineering, Documentatio= n > Steven Kreuzer Release Engineering > Xin Li Release Engineering, Security > Josh Paetzel Release Engineering > Colin Percival Security Officer Emeritus > Craig Rodrigues Release Engineering > Hiroki Sato Release Engineering, Documentatio= n > Gleb Smirnoff Release Engineering > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav Security Officer > Marius Strobl Release Engineering > Robert Watson Release Engineering, Security > > Trademark > --------- > > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > > ISO Image Checksums > ------------------- > > o 10.0-RELEASE amd64: > SHA256 (FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso) =3D > a005b55a7d25e00b247b1e1bddbb9279faaecfa01f1a42846a92f62908229aa0 > SHA256 (FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso) =3D > 9c377b4a4e63443c0b210080694de26133e6a276eddb07c7e00e1c9aebd84109 > SHA256 (FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso) =3D > b0f25ae6f165132525cdda690de7b762ba6bcec3a77e784ca293a49a520fe8f5 > SHA256 (FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img) =3D > 8cfd48c35d968f4f7a7e34376fd77af351fbbf2a37f4654843845bdb2cd51bbe > > MD5 (FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso) =3D > 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a215b48b78481b4ff399f54c95024e79 > MD5 (FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-powerpc-powerpc64-disc1.iso) =3D > f0081ae54e8677c090a1b88838c5cd94 > MD5 (FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-powerpc-powerpc64-memstick.img) =3D > 08b260573677f925da20498fe714c245 > > > o 10.0-RELEASE sparc64: > SHA256 (FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-sparc64-bootonly.iso) =3D > 773bc7d438e89ce8f2f4fee90db59b17025f6da5c61259bbd02c275305cc968d > SHA256 (FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-sparc64-disc1.iso) =3D > 0e7fc117dfa785e6df793898c2fdccd9054c81523d7a734fc2c4b5e5baac6999 > > MD5 (FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-sparc64-bootonly.iso) =3D > 10ab6d0462d6e6fc876655e0a1c1d202 > MD5 (FreeBSD-10.0-RELEASE-sparc64-disc1.iso) =3D > ebcf423b5e610ca0448c44c65901e3f2 > > > Glen > > Love FreeBSD? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 20 21:18:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8410B8A for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp1-smtp-6.eutelia.it (mp1-smtp-6.eutelia.it [62.94.10.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899D41C90 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns2.biolchim.it (ip-188-188.sn2.eutelia.it [83.211.188.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mp1-smtp-6.eutelia.it (Eutelia) with ESMTP id 374BC6B4608 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:18:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-210-136.41-151.net24.it [151.41.136.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns2.biolchim.it (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0KLIfnJ046774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:18:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: ns2.biolchim.it: Host adsl-ull-210-136.41-151.net24.it [151.41.136.210] claimed to be soth.ventu Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0KLIZne029278 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:18:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <52DD92AB.9070407@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:18:35 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: arpbalance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (ns2.biolchim.it [192.168.2.203]); Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:18:45 +0100 (CET) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:18:56 -0000 Hello. I read from 10.0 release notes that carp's arpbalance is gone. What is the intended replacement? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 20 23:11:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B800CAD for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:11:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECEC315D4 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:11:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W5O0C-0006qP-Gs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 00:11:32 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 00:11:32 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 00:11:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Newsreader issues Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <20140120120450.18c420cc@mr185083> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net User-Agent: XPN/1.2.6 (Street Spirit ; FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:11:42 -0000 Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Le Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:13:55 +0000 (UTC), > Walter Hurry a écrit : > >> If not, can anyone recommend a GUI reader for Usenet? I don't need >> binaries, just text. > > I use XPN, in ports. Not the best newsreader but it does the job. > XPN seems fine to me. Thanks, and thanks too to the other responders. 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To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:30:41 -0000 Hi: I am new to FreeBSD. For working, I have to use Windows OS, and I konw FreeBSD is very strong, so I want to install FrssBSD to my USB-HDD(because the notebook is belong to my Company). I have read the official document, and research for 3 weeks. I have failed to finished it. Waiting for your help. Thanks! Happy New Year! 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Message-Id: <20140121040958.3c757523.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:10:26 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:30:18 +0800, moogle wrote: > Hi: > > I am new to FreeBSD. For working, I have to use Windows OS, and I konw > FreeBSD is very strong, so I want to install FrssBSD to my USB-HDD(because > the notebook is belong to my Company). I have read the official document, > and research for 3 weeks. I have failed to finished it. > Waiting for your help. You should be able to install FreeBSD on an external disk as long as the notebook is able to _boot_ from that disk. You can start the installation via USB stick and add additional software using the Internet. The installation process is described here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall.html Follow the instructions, it doesn't really matter if you deal with a build-in disk or SSD, or if you're installing to a USB HDD. Just make sure you _really_ install to the external disk so your employer doesn't get offended if you overwrite the "Windows". :-) You'll find excellent help and support on this list as long as you try to provide details on what you've tried (which OS version, which media, what steps performed), what the results where (displayed messages), and how you continued. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 04:33:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C54AE1E0 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 938831EDB for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0L4XTXc030174 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Subject: confused by these mbuf stats From: Dennis Glatting To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:33:29 -0800 Message-ID: <1390278809.3668.128.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-ID: s0L4XTXc030174 X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:33:43 -0000 I have a 10.0 system (r260881) with multiple applications reading data over NFS. I'm a bit confused by the stats below where 1478 requests for 9k bufs were denied yet 9k numbers (current/cache/total/max) seem to indicate that should never happen. This system is reading ~800Mb from a 1Gb ethernet. I'm a bit confused what these numbers are telling me. Can you explain? root@mc:# netstat -m 32791/18824/51615 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 0/7136/7136/4194304 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/7130 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 6/1187/1193/2097408 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 32764/2604/35368/16779264 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/2097408 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 303097K/47162K/350259K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs delayed (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters delayed (4k/9k/16k) 0/1478/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile root@mc:# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 04:36:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A00C2B4 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62EEF1F09 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:36:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=gUI0sFtmjPtk7YDPPRnaycukW4GROQQzGTB58Fl9394=; b=kASVjt4hMOoKOZ4GdHv+jJOQCo0cjZil8yGLOYMpvnW3AxEn4bIB9qho5lxt0W41jIGkkmnlgcbXiePDXsvbXzBdNzLOALtTiim2NxTFl8oR5mzkeyYWKjrgNTM4f7yz5f7grilZIrG/y12gNvgIHonKztBzVXmh4TQi4NM/Sc8=; Received: from bb220-255-60-82.singnet.com.sg ([220.255.60.82]:39857 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W5T4a-000AzW-Fn; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:36:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:36:14 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: moogle Subject: Re: How to install FreeBSD to USB-HDD? Message-ID: <20140121123614.1881973f@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:36:31 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:30:18 +0800 moogle wrote: > Hi: > > I am new to FreeBSD. For working, I have to use Windows OS, and I > konw FreeBSD is very strong, so I want to install FrssBSD to my > USB-HDD(because the notebook is belong to my Company). I have read > the official document, and research for 3 weeks. I have failed to > finished it. Waiting for your help. this is not a problem at all. If you have a notebook with just one internal hard disk and no other USB media attached, /dev/da0 should be the external USB hard disk. But it will be different when you boot the FreeBSD installer from a USB media like thumb drive or other hard disks. After the installation program is up, you can connect your USB hard disk and it will become /dev/da1. I think the best way to continue is to tell us what choices the installer gives. Just never install FreeBSD on /dev/ada0 or /dev/ad0. This would wipe out your Windows. I would like this but your company will not. So, be really careful here. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 04:45:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AAC34EF for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:45:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 632A31FA5 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:45:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=+igK1eW+1ImMVAU3/opgNh6IKvujz6CAoruZWGnCTEY=; b=iCn91aIBgXc+vaT7cuA5tlE8BRcGYgW7AOK76a7tz9R9NAXnAkbgI87QMkNCYJBWWpmuExGOHleDOaqPqs7aR85mjLcZ9A5l4fMadWpSq5sHChgvkXzpw5GUEyHBVWJ3tYXQoUDte3Yy/Th4sMk12fcQ6FbdFP6F4nu44F6p1Sw=; Received: from bb220-255-60-82.singnet.com.sg ([220.255.60.82]:59064 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W5TCu-000DVO-I0; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:45:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:44:49 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: moogle Subject: Re: How to install FreeBSD to USB-HDD? Message-ID: <20140121124449.04a4417f@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:45:02 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:30:18 +0800 moogle wrote: > I am new to FreeBSD. For working, I have to use Windows OS, and I > konw FreeBSD is very strong, so I want to install FrssBSD to my > USB-HDD(because the notebook is belong to my Company). I have read > the official document, and research for 3 weeks. I have failed to > finished it. Waiting for your help. I forgot to mention that not all notebooks are able to boot from USB. Also, some notebooks are able only to boot MBR structured disks. The installer will put a GPT structure onto your disk by default. So, you will have to watch for this too. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 05:04:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B4F3875 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:04:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F3271117 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 249CC3CB9A for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:04:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0L545ap002502 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:04:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:04:05 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation Message-Id: <20140121060405.396586d4.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:04:34 -0000 For educational and experimental purposes, I'd like to install FreeBSD along with two Linusi on a laptop. It has a 100 GB SATA disk which should be sufficient. So I'm searching for important advice and mentioning of pitfalls that I should avoid. I'm planning to use FreeBSD 10.0, Kali Linux and Mageia. Here are some problems or considerations I expect to be facing: Partitioning: Does Linux support GPT, or should I better keep using MBR? FreeBSD would get one slice, "DOS primary partition", a common data exchange partition another one, and the Linusi could do their stuff on "logical drives inside a DOS extended partition", as it seems to be common over there. Boot manager: Can the FreeBSD boot manager (which I prefer because it's simple and sufficient) recognize and distinguish the two Linusi? Is there an easy way to modify its source so the display is more obvious, e. g. F1 FreeBSD F2 Kali F3 Mageia Default: F1 instead of F1 FreeBSD F2 Linux F3 Linux Default: F1 which I assume would be the default? I have already briefly checked the source at /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot0/boot0ext.S which doesn't seem to have a more specific differentiation, but maybe a "custom hack" could be used to disguise one of the Linusi at something else? Swap: Can the two Linusi share the same swap partition? And furthoermore, could FreeBSD also use that one? Note that the different systems are not running at the same time, so it would be nonsense to waste disk space for three "dedicated" swap partitions when one is sufficient. Shared data partition: I'm not searching for blazing performance, so I do not require the most recent ext10fs or RiceFat here. The goal should be that this partition can be adressed from all the operating systems. It doesn't have to be /home, instead it will be mounted separately, but rw. Regarding FreeBSD, it would nice to not require fuse here (base OS tools preferred). My initial partitioning and sizing idea: Partition OS, subpart. Size Device (slice, partition) -------------- -------------- ------ --------------------------- Prim. #1 FreeBSD 55 GB /dev/ada0s1{a,d,e,f,g} a / 1 GB d /tmp 2 GB e /var 2 GB f /usr 15 GB g /home 35 GB Prim. #2 swap 5 GB /dev/ada0s2(b?), /dev/sda2 Prim. #3 common data 10 GB /dev/adas3, /dev/sda3 Extend. #1 log. dr. #1 Kali Linux 15 GB /dev/sda5 log. dr. #2 Mageia Linux 15 GB /dev/sda6 Would something like this work, or is there a better approach? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 05:14:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE4FDADB for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com (mail-wi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8911C11A9 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id ex4so3937291wid.17 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:14:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sPEII1h3Xtp/Z5UpzPCu3yMQyK41HzlMh0Lqr3fcvio=; b=JNl9NdAzMHIcNN8HiJ7H7oa6lzyNCYjADIcvy1+zbit/mMyCHNHh9Xjwf4iDLQh4uW aX2wyEYLNTeRBUSxWLP65/baJqMJzgVkSltWQwcznEvhImprwUZi7nd+9mlG3Ey4c18S 8xwTvAH8GTD8BwySbgBzCz/McCYzpTgytbP1KORbd3T6gQpF8997yj+TRkQNaBres2nq XlVyHCxweStHTR8j3V3fPaESQQZY1xcX5L25TCndyR298E9sm7NukZ8NWalO6/PVwIS9 0HdNyvaJXbc4ciY2jtMeFyPBmR3qYosHGI4mDnky7n6uFcMpfF/hDi12lo/Er6bXOsBd mZYQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.11.142 with SMTP id q14mr12790386wib.45.1390281271549; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:14:31 -0800 (PST) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.82.70 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:14:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140121060405.396586d4.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20140121060405.396586d4.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:14:31 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zX57GizrtGZoamhUuO0C-MbPtjo Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation From: Olivier Nicole To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:14:34 -0000 Hi, > Swap: Can the two Linusi share the same swap partition? And I do something of the sort on machines in my teaching lab. I have installed one Ubuntu on one partition, and I have another empty partition where students can install their own Ubuntu (for class project) and they both use one same (extended) partition. I see no reason why FreeBSD could not use it too, swap partition is supposed to be empty when the system boots, so any data/formatting done by another OS will be over written. One a side note, should you have 35GB of /home in FreeBSD partition of instead increase the size of your common space? Bests, Olivier > furthoermore, could FreeBSD also use that one? Note that the > different systems are not running at the same time, so it would > be nonsense to waste disk space for three "dedicated" swap > partitions when one is sufficient. > > Shared data partition: I'm not searching for blazing performance, > so I do not require the most recent ext10fs or RiceFat here. > The goal should be that this partition can be adressed from all > the operating systems. It doesn't have to be /home, instead it > will be mounted separately, but rw. Regarding FreeBSD, it would > nice to not require fuse here (base OS tools preferred). > > My initial partitioning and sizing idea: > > Partition OS, subpart. Size Device (slice, partition) > -------------- -------------- ------ --------------------------- > > Prim. #1 FreeBSD 55 GB /dev/ada0s1{a,d,e,f,g} > a / 1 GB > d /tmp 2 GB > e /var 2 GB > f /usr 15 GB > g /home 35 GB > > Prim. #2 swap 5 GB /dev/ada0s2(b?), /dev/sda2 > > Prim. #3 common data 10 GB /dev/adas3, /dev/sda3 > > Extend. #1 > log. dr. #1 Kali Linux 15 GB /dev/sda5 > log. dr. #2 Mageia Linux 15 GB /dev/sda6 > > Would something like this work, or is there a better approach? > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 05:48:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A395A4CC for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6481B1379 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C54E3CB0C; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:48:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0L5mFgI002731; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:48:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:48:14 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation Message-Id: <20140121064815.78f3a357.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20140121060405.396586d4.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:48:42 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:14:31 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > > Swap: Can the two Linusi share the same swap partition? And > > I do something of the sort on machines in my teaching lab. > > I have installed one Ubuntu on one partition, and I have another empty > partition where students can install their own Ubuntu (for class > project) and they both use one same (extended) partition. > > I see no reason why FreeBSD could not use it too, swap partition is > supposed to be empty when the system boots, so any data/formatting > done by another OS will be over written. That was my initial assumption too. Thanks for confirming, I will definitely try that. The only thing I've been wondering about: The ID would have to be set to 82 "Linux swap" (and the Linux partitions theirselves of course 83 "Linux native partition"), will FreeBSD complain when I define that partition, e. g. /dev/ada0s2, as swap, having the "wrong" type ID? On the other hand, a typical FreeBSD swap at /dev/ada0s1b would have no partition ID at all... so I assume that won't be a problem. > One a side note, should you have 35GB of /home in FreeBSD partition of > instead increase the size of your common space? I thought about that, but decided against it. The common data partition will be more of an "exchange point" because I will spend most of my time in FreeBSD, and I prefer data to be under the control of UFS (because I just trust this more than the various Linux file systems), that's why FreeBSD's /home is where the majority of data will be. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 06:42:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94F48E8F for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x235.google.com (mail-wg0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D9D81777 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id y10so7682421wgg.20 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:42:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=u18OhwC16l9yTPfj7c0lur4nSN9wsPWPV8apcl0P99g=; b=C6r6K0apuvcZ+pq2JOf+zUXi8WJYWICiaDyiWlxFjTZISLQgexjTJTkFgMsJdD1f10 i8NZAHRC+Ap9ShQMvCnqGBQXTbQ7d3q1NdzBrneohXjdT2a8QvwpecxxPAkSzXaU2KD2 NjtNX0JKJXb4IX2+LYJAOTaCy0ERA58Ipirv/bWK995MEbrAA6vaeEfY37usyhN8k76N IOWTyfpCiF7kNPRJNuoBciheG2KWRPoxxePJ33bQAQzPOPGQS1jQzG7YMuuhGgrFlbrp R+G+vn0yS0M9OkNwP+f3XObSSqMj98Vv3aRllqDeoO2uUt4ACJlBfQGRpz+AqC06UOFv wfbg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.6.8 with SMTP id w8mr144630wjw.16.1390286534487; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:42:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.82.70 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:42:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140121064815.78f3a357.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20140121060405.396586d4.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140121064815.78f3a357.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:42:14 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: x9fEPYjn5J7Y23TRsj_LjZNpZCQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation From: Olivier Nicole To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Olivier Nicole , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:42:16 -0000 Hi, >> > Swap: Can the two Linusi share the same swap partition? And >> >> I do something of the sort on machines in my teaching lab. >> >> I have installed one Ubuntu on one partition, and I have another empty >> partition where students can install their own Ubuntu (for class >> project) and they both use one same (extended) partition. >> >> I see no reason why FreeBSD could not use it too, swap partition is >> supposed to be empty when the system boots, so any data/formatting >> done by another OS will be over written. > > That was my initial assumption too. Thanks for confirming, > I will definitely try that. The only thing I've been wondering > about: The ID would have to be set to 82 "Linux swap" (and > the Linux partitions theirselves of course 83 "Linux native > partition"), will FreeBSD complain when I define that partition, > e. g. /dev/ada0s2, as swap, having the "wrong" type ID? On > the other hand, a typical FreeBSD swap at /dev/ada0s1b would > have no partition ID at all... so I assume that won't be > a problem. I have no machine with both FreeBSD and Linux, so I cannot try. >> One a side note, should you have 35GB of /home in FreeBSD partition of >> instead increase the size of your common space? > > I thought about that, but decided against it. The common data > partition will be more of an "exchange point" because I will > spend most of my time in FreeBSD, and I prefer data to be > under the control of UFS (because I just trust this more than > the various Linux file systems), that's why FreeBSD's /home > is where the majority of data will be. It would be worth trying whether Linux can see/mount your FreeBSD home partition (Linux supposedly knows the ufs file system), that way you may not even need the common data partition. Bests, Olivier > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 07:36:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 573E81B9 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A40A1CAC for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s0L7aKuq080740; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:36:20 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:36:20 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Polytropon Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20140121172736.A25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:36:48 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 503, Issue 1, Message: 28 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:04:05 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > For educational and experimental purposes, I'd like to install > FreeBSD along with two Linusi on a laptop. It has a 100 GB SATA > disk which should be sufficient. So I'm searching for important > advice and mentioning of pitfalls that I should avoid. I'm > planning to use FreeBSD 10.0, Kali Linux and Mageia. Here are > some problems or considerations I expect to be facing: > > Partitioning: Does Linux support GPT, or should I better keep > using MBR? FreeBSD would get one slice, "DOS primary partition", > a common data exchange partition another one, and the Linusi > could do their stuff on "logical drives inside a DOS extended > partition", as it seems to be common over there. I've been waiting for 'someone' to do a GPT version of boot0 for a few years, as otherwise even if all the OS you want to multiboot handle GPT, you're forced to go with GRUB or some other? non-base boot loader. So meanwhile, the hard work of stuffing boot0 into the 512 bytes of the MBR has been done and very well documented, and it's never let me down. I've never (since OS/2 anyway) tried using the extended partition for bootable OSes but since the code caters for it and Olivier and others have reported it working, I'll assume it does :) > Boot manager: Can the FreeBSD boot manager (which I prefer because > it's simple and sufficient) recognize and distinguish the two > Linusi? Is there an easy way to modify its source so the display > is more obvious, e. g. > > F1 FreeBSD > F2 Kali > F3 Mageia > > Default: F1 > > instead of > > F1 FreeBSD > F2 Linux > F3 Linux > > Default: F1 > > which I assume would be the default? I have already briefly checked > the source at /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot0/boot0ext.S which doesn't > seem to have a more specific differentiation, but maybe a "custom > hack" could be used to disguise one of the Linusi at something else? The short answer is 'no way'. For one thing, boot0ext.S is a whopping 1KB program with likely some scope for mods if you're sharp with x86 assember, but it's never made, only boot0 and boot0sio appear in /boot and Makefile makes no mention .. I assume it's 'historical reference'. As boot0.S points out, many hacky tricks have been used to squeeze it into the MBR and there's next to no scope for any additional code. > Swap: Can the two Linusi share the same swap partition? And > furthoermore, could FreeBSD also use that one? Note that the > different systems are not running at the same time, so it would > be nonsense to waste disk space for three "dedicated" swap > partitions when one is sufficient. Can't see any problem with that, based on (limited) Debian experience. > Shared data partition: I'm not searching for blazing performance, > so I do not require the most recent ext10fs or RiceFat here. > The goal should be that this partition can be adressed from all > the operating systems. It doesn't have to be /home, instead it > will be mounted separately, but rw. Regarding FreeBSD, it would > nice to not require fuse here (base OS tools preferred). EXT2 or 3 should be no problem, but I'm not up to date (esp wrt FUSE). My older Win{98,XP,2K} plus FreeBSD laptops - not that I've booted 'doze for years now - have used msdosfs for shared data, of course before the FreeBSD partition/s to keep it simple for stupid, and Linux doesn't mind. Despite being slow, inefficient and trashing fine permissions and timestamps, everything handles it. I also use it for shared space on memsticks, to readily share some files between DOS, Linux and Mac boxes. > My initial partitioning and sizing idea: > > Partition OS, subpart. Size Device (slice, partition) > -------------- -------------- ------ --------------------------- > > Prim. #1 FreeBSD 55 GB /dev/ada0s1{a,d,e,f,g} > a / 1 GB > d /tmp 2 GB > e /var 2 GB I'd likely go 4GB for /var, but it depends a lot on your usage. > f /usr 15 GB > g /home 35 GB Should be good. I tend to disagree with Olivier about not having a separate /home, and I recall you also being a fan of dump/restore, something else rendered far less useful with 'everything in /', though I understand the utility of that approach in (increasingly common) VMs. > Prim. #2 swap 5 GB /dev/ada0s2(b?), /dev/sda2 The (b?) would imply a bsdlabel, which would get clobbered by Linux. > Prim. #3 common data 10 GB /dev/adas3, /dev/sda3 > > Extend. #1 > log. dr. #1 Kali Linux 15 GB /dev/sda5 > log. dr. #2 Mageia Linux 15 GB /dev/sda6 >From FreeBSD accessing my old OS/2 partitions I seem to recall that /dev/ada0s5 is the ext drive itself, and within would be ada0s6 and s7, though the above nomenclature would be right from Linux' POV. > Would something like this work, or is there a better approach? Should be a goer .. modulo remembering which Linux is which :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 07:50:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F8826D9 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x236.google.com (mail-we0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBA201D7E for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id w62so7827103wes.13 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:50:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/p538aC7WgzY7HaRq/WUwDZ+11JZFGBC1AVcyW4K1yI=; b=VFShDFRaKFyQUk741rBtXqaUW9Nwzrl2OCqYWkHaTHfmEiefJkCZyS5GEIxlu8qGKz 4LqB2x5LYfnoh1PEUQBDdBmPdL4UImINB0/KklZo39ouAi6Yq2l1QYBT26WUj9R1fM4Z wleI8ezCfJ/4TaF/+c+LSUiWan8gPYYm1WBAmP61DvKafj/gzNpgvywR3oNimvhzkssS 72zbWfoh/Wobr2NDieqV9zAP/v1SRPfl3/ZZFQ75xKH8XPFq8AltpHLfPXsnHGvSM1+j PhA+INscEmxD69tAtD6ECX0mcAe8fQixqm0or5KH2U8lyT3AhWyq3oJsqOJMAQk3yE8v CiXw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.12.146 with SMTP id y18mr13409923wib.37.1390290620139; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:50:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.82.70 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:50:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140121172736.A25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20140121172736.A25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:50:20 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Vg4tzIPHXjlBSWJSxF1YprK1UFc Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation From: Olivier Nicole To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:50:22 -0000 Hi, > Should be good. I tend to disagree with Olivier about not having a > separate /home, and I recall you also being a fan of dump/restore, I advocate a separate file system for /home, but I was suggesting to join that with the Prim #3 partition below, not having one file system for /home and one other file system for /common (as it reduces the fragmentation, and what is common is the data, usually located in /home). > > Extend. #1 > > log. dr. #1 Kali Linux 15 GB /dev/sda5 > > log. dr. #2 Mageia Linux 15 GB /dev/sda6 > > From FreeBSD accessing my old OS/2 partitions I seem to recall that > /dev/ada0s5 is the ext drive itself, and within would be ada0s6 and s7, > though the above nomenclature would be right from Linux' POV. In Linux too (Ubuntu) the Extended #1 is partition #4 and being splited into logical partition #5 and #6. Basically what you write Ian, but you missed the #4: /dev/ada0s4 is the ext drive itself, and within would be ada0s5 and s6... 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21 Jan 2014 08:58:04 +0000 UTC From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20140121060405.396586d4.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:01:21 -0000 from Polytropon: > For educational and experimental purposes, I'd like to install > FreeBSD along with two Linusi on a laptop. It has a 100 GB SATA > disk which should be sufficient. So I'm searching for important > advice and mentioning of pitfalls that I should avoid. I'm > planning to use FreeBSD 10.0, Kali Linux and Mageia. Here are > some problems or considerations I expect to be facing: > Partitioning: Does Linux support GPT, or should I better keep > using MBR? FreeBSD would get one slice, "DOS primary partition", > a common data exchange partition another one, and the Linusi > could do their stuff on "logical drives inside a DOS extended > partition", as it seems to be common over there. I am not sure how to configure a boot manager, though you can use GRUB2. I can definitively say Linux supports GPT and OpenBSD does not. System Rescue CD/USB recognizes GPT disks but can not mount or read UFS2, either on MBR or GPT. If /dev/sda is partitioned with GPT, partitions would be /dev/sda1, sda2, sda3 and so on. NetBSD supports GPT though not as elegantly as Linux or FreeBSD. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 09:12:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6333A9FE for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5DC0164E for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:12:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s0L9CEiV083978; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:12:14 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:12:14 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20140121193035.K25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20140121172736.A25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:12:37 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:50:20 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, G'day Olivier, > > Should be good. I tend to disagree with Olivier about not having a > > separate /home, and I recall you also being a fan of dump/restore, > > I advocate a separate file system for /home, but I was suggesting to > join that with the Prim #3 partition below, not having one file system > for /home and one other file system for /common (as it reduces the > fragmentation, and what is common is the data, usually located in > /home). The main issue there is that from FreeBSD you'd be working with a (say) ext2/3 partition as /home, when you really have to be sure that FreeBSD handles R/W flawlessly with it rather than with UFS2+SU(+J), especially regarding crash recovery. Perhaps with FUSE that might be solid enough, but personally I tend to trust native formats and tools better, whether from the FreeBSD or Linux side. > > > Extend. #1 > > > log. dr. #1 Kali Linux 15 GB /dev/sda5 > > > log. dr. #2 Mageia Linux 15 GB /dev/sda6 > > > > From FreeBSD accessing my old OS/2 partitions I seem to recall that > > /dev/ada0s5 is the ext drive itself, and within would be ada0s6 and s7, > > though the above nomenclature would be right from Linux' POV. > > In Linux too (Ubuntu) the Extended #1 is partition #4 and being > splited into logical partition #5 and #6. Basically what you write > Ian, but you missed the #4: /dev/ada0s4 is the ext drive itself, and > within would be ada0s5 and s6... I'm still not sure about that from FreeBSD's perspective. Remembering back to '98-'99 when I salvaged years of OS/2 work, especially code, and those disks only had 3 primary partitions ('C:', OS/2 Boot Manager, then drives D: through I: or J: on the extended partition, but with no s4 I still had to start at s5, with s6 the first mountable partition (after having built the HPFS code which is still in the tree, at 9.1 anyway). However I may be misremembering (non-ECC memory :) so perhaps Polytropon could show us an 'ls /dev/ada0*' when it's done? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 09:17:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E4F9AE4 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9DD01680 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id cc10so4073891wib.11 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:17:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Ib2Soltg4Kx69Ss1fJVqtzIvsWhV/4AnYAvjzvqM9+I=; b=DXfysQ9kxgjLTVAv3ae+WbZBshGSPrwVb7KVQ3d/aTvbgl5l1/pATSCDu0KPkG8twI xpzZW+KD50o2TeYRUZNZIxfYXJw28/ETX87Wu8fow5n6486AAdcEEe7Cocq0eEodRJGr Ub9EJFdtyStD7NZdfqgwuNCRAK41/CuWXuGPhHzPP45hbVCxaY6rZRUqrp/fSbi3jjdK eMt8gvIGJgTUzlwWqyhFFDq39QsC+UkgiuY4ezGT8S62LwvlFdHTtqBOEKqOh3xP73mb tvA34rO3deTpMtcrjz1fyUwJ/1Tb+WAMctZpkEIR6aryACLZhx3rilk0C1Y9Q+woPgJL hrfQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.219.132 with SMTP id po4mr10240563wjc.7.1390295868432; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:17:48 -0800 (PST) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.82.70 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:17:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140121193035.K25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20140121172736.A25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20140121193035.K25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:17:48 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YNkzCt_0RFMxSHIGiBCygL_qaY8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation From: Olivier Nicole To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:17:50 -0000 Ian, > The main issue there is that from FreeBSD you'd be working with a (say) > ext2/3 partition as /home, when you really have to be sure that FreeBSD > handles R/W flawlessly with it rather than with UFS2+SU(+J), especially > regarding crash recovery. Perhaps with FUSE that might be solid enough, > but personally I tend to trust native formats and tools better, whether > from the FreeBSD or Linux side. I think that Linux (Ubuntu) supports UFS. As I have no machine with oth system, I never pushed further, but I think I remember seeing an option to format a partition using UFS in Ubuntu install. Let me give it a trty. Olivier > > > > > Extend. #1 > > > > log. dr. #1 Kali Linux 15 GB /dev/sda5 > > > > log. dr. #2 Mageia Linux 15 GB /dev/sda6 > > > > > > From FreeBSD accessing my old OS/2 partitions I seem to recall that > > > /dev/ada0s5 is the ext drive itself, and within would be ada0s6 and s7, > > > though the above nomenclature would be right from Linux' POV. > > > > In Linux too (Ubuntu) the Extended #1 is partition #4 and being > > splited into logical partition #5 and #6. Basically what you write > > Ian, but you missed the #4: /dev/ada0s4 is the ext drive itself, and > > within would be ada0s5 and s6... > > I'm still not sure about that from FreeBSD's perspective. Remembering > back to '98-'99 when I salvaged years of OS/2 work, especially code, and > those disks only had 3 primary partitions ('C:', OS/2 Boot Manager, then > drives D: through I: or J: on the extended partition, but with no s4 I > still had to start at s5, with s6 the first mountable partition (after > having built the HPFS code which is still in the tree, at 9.1 anyway). > > However I may be misremembering (non-ECC memory :) so perhaps Polytropon > could show us an 'ls /dev/ada0*' when it's done? > > cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 09:25:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA886193 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 858E91755 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W5XaS-0001mJ-LR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:25:36 +0100 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:25:36 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:25:36 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <20140121060405.396586d4.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:25:39 -0000 Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > ... > Swap: Can the two Linusi share the same swap partition? And > furthoermore, could FreeBSD also use that one? Note that the > different systems are not running at the same time, so it would > be nonsense to waste disk space for three "dedicated" swap > partitions when one is sufficient. > ... Swap partition in Linux has a signature, which is destroyed by FB, and so it has to be restored by Linux again. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+FreeBSD-3.html Linux does suspend-to-disk to swap partition, which makes sharing it problematic. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 09:46:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBD4D733 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DC83191C for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5686F2760C; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:46:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0L9jemN003496; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:45:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:45:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: jb Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation Message-Id: <20140121104540.706f9180.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20140121060405.396586d4.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:46:13 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:25:15 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > > ... > > Swap: Can the two Linusi share the same swap partition? And > > furthoermore, could FreeBSD also use that one? Note that the > > different systems are not running at the same time, so it would > > be nonsense to waste disk space for three "dedicated" swap > > partitions when one is sufficient. > > ... > > Swap partition in Linux has a signature, which is destroyed by FB, and so it > has to be restored by Linux again. > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+FreeBSD-3.html That sounds reasonable. I'll have to find the correct places in the selected Linusi to try to "initialize" the swap space (mkswap) prior to activating it (swapon), and of course check what content from the article still applies to modern Linux. That will be the hard part. :-) > Linux does suspend-to-disk to swap partition, which makes sharing it > problematic. When the status is written to swap, it will be read by the same Linux when waking up. Only one OS will run at a given time, so it basically _should_ work, but probably I won't try it. Troubleshooting on Linux has become almost as terrible and impossible as on "Windows"... I'm not planning to use any of those suspend features. Either a computer is on, or it is off. A computer is binary, it only knows 0 and 1. Therefore, it is a total idiot. Of course it's the fasted idiot in the world. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 10:31:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96DBD1000 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x229.google.com (mail-qc0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 504201DB0 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id w7so6978123qcr.0 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 02:31:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=DlDrUUVIqsyBxGa3M1oYRblTMggdvgJExZCePAz1hFs=; b=U9rC8BE+T/x+H8AU1AhwkZ4G4t4DZkoAwZ94kkDPHZ/PEZtBf1VAQ+s3Zn77xgzfkm TBtPeANDEusar0RXp3E/IDXP/1OQJcNhevQ/rS4eVHMkcvXEXqBWyqXlqIsYPd5k5XnC +XBeILBKcwoP38kpenK9RtIe9lJ5/FJA05LphSpr50qKyDCu5zjZBMujvasnj4qP/XRC pj6PYrOzddy6HQV8WT20QhI/cIAU1w+6Gq/UEeBY+M+KbKOCNimppg73xXTeErLfKIVF 5M+yvl4Vm4VBsT2MhJk/b3C9AaHcX+0Niy9MRdwThUHb9kjEO5FrTrM4BBIKXdMu48DO y+Tw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.102.204 with SMTP id w70mr33272800qge.110.1390300313057; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 02:31:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.37.227 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 02:31:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20140121172736.A25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20140121193035.K25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:31:52 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation From: krad To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: Polytropon , Ian Smith , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:31:54 -0000 if you want data exchange, you might be better going for nfs or cifs rather than trying to keep it on disk. All of the issues with fs support then go away, and you can keep each os install atomic On 21 January 2014 09:17, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Ian, > > > The main issue there is that from FreeBSD you'd be working with a (say) > > ext2/3 partition as /home, when you really have to be sure that FreeBSD > > handles R/W flawlessly with it rather than with UFS2+SU(+J), especially > > regarding crash recovery. Perhaps with FUSE that might be solid enough, > > but personally I tend to trust native formats and tools better, whether > > from the FreeBSD or Linux side. > > I think that Linux (Ubuntu) supports UFS. As I have no machine with > oth system, I never pushed further, but I think I remember seeing an > option to format a partition using UFS in Ubuntu install. > > Let me give it a trty. > > Olivier > > > > > > > > Extend. #1 > > > > > log. dr. #1 Kali Linux 15 GB /dev/sda5 > > > > > log. dr. #2 Mageia Linux 15 GB /dev/sda6 > > > > > > > > From FreeBSD accessing my old OS/2 partitions I seem to recall that > > > > /dev/ada0s5 is the ext drive itself, and within would be ada0s6 and > s7, > > > > though the above nomenclature would be right from Linux' POV. > > > > > > In Linux too (Ubuntu) the Extended #1 is partition #4 and being > > > splited into logical partition #5 and #6. Basically what you write > > > Ian, but you missed the #4: /dev/ada0s4 is the ext drive itself, and > > > within would be ada0s5 and s6... > > > > I'm still not sure about that from FreeBSD's perspective. Remembering > > back to '98-'99 when I salvaged years of OS/2 work, especially code, and > > those disks only had 3 primary partitions ('C:', OS/2 Boot Manager, then > > drives D: through I: or J: on the extended partition, but with no s4 I > > still had to start at s5, with s6 the first mountable partition (after > > having built the HPFS code which is still in the tree, at 9.1 anyway). > > > > However I may be misremembering (non-ECC memory :) so perhaps Polytropon > > could show us an 'ls /dev/ada0*' when it's done? > > > > cheers, Ian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 11:03:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85C33DBD for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 442E81039 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F06A3CEFC; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:03:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0LB2qSo003777; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:02:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:02:52 +0100 From: Polytropon To: krad Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation Message-Id: <20140121120252.442c19cf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20140121172736.A25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20140121193035.K25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:03:26 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:31:52 +0000, krad wrote: > if you want data exchange, you might be better going for nfs or cifs rather > than trying to keep it on disk. All of the issues with fs support then go > away, and you can keep each os install atomic If I would need this for larger amounts of data, NFS would definitely be my choice. I already _know_ that it works because I have tried it in the past. But the requirement is "network-less", and only for small amounts of data, just in case I want to access something from all installed operating systems, or want something created on one OS make accessible on the other OS. It's not even about a shared home directory. Also it's not about simultaneous access, because only one OS will run at a time. The primary intention is that it should be r/w from all systems with the simplest means possible. I'm not sure in how far Linux supports UFS (either as a partition inside a slice, or as a GPT partition, or as a "slice on its own"), that's why I thought the best choice would be the lowest Linux file system (ext2), because FreeBSD can read and write this with OS tools (fuse not required). So the "means of sharing or transfer" can be kept on the same disk (installed in the laptop) and does not require something specific. It's really not meant for big amounts of data, it's a "just in case" concept. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[137.222.187.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y13sm7248715wjr.8.2014.01.21.03.37.16 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:37:17 -0800 (PST) Sender: Anton Shterenlikht Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id s0LBbEGG017783 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:37:15 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6/Submit) id s0LBbEE9017782; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:37:14 GMT (envelope-from mexas) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:37:17 -0800 (PST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201401211137.s0LBbEE9017782@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: cjr@cruwe.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: texlive fonts configuration: cannot find Arial, Times In-Reply-To: <20140120135140.0aafbaaf@dijkstra.cruwe.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:45:32 -0000 >Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:51:40 +0100 >From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: texlive fonts configuration: cannot find Arial, Times > >On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:40:40 +0100 >Polytropon wrote: > >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:22:43 -0800 (PST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> > Hi >> > >> > I'm starting to use texlive. >> > I installed texlive-full-20120701. >> > >> > I need to build a document with these >> > declarations: >> > >> > \usepackage{fontspec} >> > \usepackage{subfigure} >> > \setmainfont{Times New Roman} >> > \setsansfont{Arial} >> > >> > [...] >> > >> > I presume these basic fonts should be available >> > as part of the default installation, right? >> >> I don't think so. Those are fonts made by MICROS~1 to avoid >> licensing real fonts. :-) >> >> >> >> > So probably I haven't configured texlive fonts correctly? >> >> I'm not sure in how far TeXlive is able to pick up fonts >> installed on the system (usually fonts for use in X), but >> maybe you could try installing the "webfonts" package? It >> helps to make web pages look better when they have been >> "optimized" for use with "Windows" (i. e., explicitely >> requiring things like "Arial"). The results can then be >> found in the /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/ directory. >> >> >> >> > I've these directories: >> > >> > $ ls /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/fonts/ >> > afm enc misc ovf >> > sfd truetype cid fea >> > ofm ovp source type1 >> > cmap map opentype pk >> > tfm vf >> > >> > But not sure if this is enough. >> >> Those are the fonts to be used with Metafont. As I said, >> I'm not sure if those can interact in some way with other >> fonts in the systmm. >> >> >> >> Just as a sidenote: >> >> If you want a good-looking serif font, just use the CMR >> (Computer Modern Roman) that is the default font for many >> LaTeX cases. If you want a Helvetica-like font (which "Arial" >> is a poor replacement for), try this: >> >> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} >> \usepackage[scaled]{helvet} >> \renewcommand{\familydefault}{\sfdefault} >> >> Note that I'm using this when I need a sans serif font, and >> it works in teTeX. Not sure if it will also work in TeXlive, >> but I assume this functionality has been kept. >> >> Also note that it isn't "the real Helvetica", but a very good >> variation that comes with ligatures and looks _much_ better >> than shabby "Arial". >> >> Maybe if you use >> >> \setmainfont{cmr} >> \setsansfont{helvet} >> >> you can get the same result? Again, note that I haven't tested >> this. But giving it a try isn't a hard exercise. :-) >> >> >> > >If by some reasons such as e.g. "customer demand" you are forced to >use fonts normally not available in common latex, you can try xetex. > >Then, you have all fonts available which are pulled in by fc-cache and >declare for instance > >\setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Avenir LT Std 35 Light} > >Cheers, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! ! fontspec error: "font-not-found" ! ! The font "Avenir LT Std 35 Light" cannot be found. ! ! See the fontspec documentation for further information. ! ! For immediate help type H . !............................................... l.32 ...ont[Ligatures=TeX]{Avenir LT Std 35 Light} It seems fontspec cannot find this font. So do I only have availble what is returned by fc-list? Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 12:03:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D66BD9DA for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50022156D for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s0LC3K44089613; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:03:20 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:03:20 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: krad Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20140121225122.G25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20140121172736.A25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20140121193035.K25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Olivier Nicole , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:03:47 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:31:52 +0000, krad wrote: > if you want data exchange, you might be better going for nfs or cifs rather > than trying to keep it on disk. All of the issues with fs support then go > away, and you can keep each os install atomic For multiple boxes, sure, but perhaps you missed Polytropon's original: > For educational and experimental purposes, I'd like to install > FreeBSD along with two Linusi on a laptop. It has a 100 GB SATA > disk which should be sufficient. So I'm searching for important > advice and mentioning of pitfalls that I should avoid. I'm > planning to use FreeBSD 10.0, Kali Linux and Mageia. [..] cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 12:42:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF22532C for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x22a.google.com (mail-qc0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 991BD1898 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id e9so7101883qcy.29 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:42:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9t+3J43dNpQrBQ2dN9H4eiiYX8ptmfxwpoNd67vtEsU=; b=lUFioAB3x8tJimltj++wzJRhUSfEMWQBaj58/7r3GSe2oqv+feE2nuhTq9IJlHt5GG pTzQ9R3tEpLCXIVK6y+WxK9can0Zzk6YBxbfYs2Yl4Mxh7tsbUAld/V2lJiVVrNxBE3q azeT/RKsu3XejF6VmF7bDex70/zwez6brBw9/rXhp0WiJJmzXb9yrsqtyz9dfBYluYJn 3DCxeftAhQVkbY1V2VGiWn5vMpwBndNJW403PRHco67FJgzrZnSnAd9PCvIzwLmq1q4Z lvyjpQVz9gtlRvWhEmYOG+tZbEkfPAYNtyI5ajkOjgeGvlW49+m9m3nCkG3g6YpQegr+ PJ9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.102.204 with SMTP id w70mr34160430qge.110.1390308146667; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:42:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.37.227 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:42:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140121120252.442c19cf.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20140121172736.A25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20140121193035.K25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20140121120252.442c19cf.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:42:26 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation From: krad To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:42:27 -0000 ifs its only for small stuff would fat32 not be good enough. Linux and BSD are ok with with, even if it is a bit ugly On 21 January 2014 11:02, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:31:52 +0000, krad wrote: > > if you want data exchange, you might be better going for nfs or cifs > rather > > than trying to keep it on disk. All of the issues with fs support then go > > away, and you can keep each os install atomic > > If I would need this for larger amounts of data, NFS would definitely > be my choice. I already _know_ that it works because I have tried it > in the past. But the requirement is "network-less", and only for > small amounts of data, just in case I want to access something from > all installed operating systems, or want something created on one > OS make accessible on the other OS. It's not even about a shared > home directory. Also it's not about simultaneous access, because > only one OS will run at a time. > > The primary intention is that it should be r/w from all systems > with the simplest means possible. I'm not sure in how far Linux > supports UFS (either as a partition inside a slice, or as a GPT > partition, or as a "slice on its own"), that's why I thought the > best choice would be the lowest Linux file system (ext2), because > FreeBSD can read and write this with OS tools (fuse not required). > So the "means of sharing or transfer" can be kept on the same > disk (installed in the laptop) and does not require something > specific. It's really not meant for big amounts of data, it's > a "just in case" concept. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 12:47:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79FB6522 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x22e.google.com (mail-qa0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B6C718E2 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id ii20so6410475qab.19 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:47:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uHWKYFHoECCM+JSs8uiCNQepsoZBSnhRy2YDZX20NpM=; b=U9TR9RANA+rzATiThwj+A4Gijk1VMnTVezT2cWkU886d9LBh6m7bH6Eg2NyBkRaeue ZOeq5F48wPpLDGSuetOuJUloh55dDAUQgfdvHhecXnQ4qORk1y2/GMuBo76stDx15vlA aS06BMJvexpmgaKkAT8sL0RKoZ+1Noi9F2cnbYs00SgaIwnasF/KmjmmSALXBa+7NoqC DtjRmHYpOLofz8KeUoxHPCWeuTI8ktYBX6zIZt8wjmPkpKjjTzr5vhIDJjP3tqhGLBCx z1evg0MzT+4RA2tiXTbDc+jT5iesgQ0yZN89xbR+CdkS8qOYGHoElv/c6N2oS7TOjCv7 vfXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.93.130 with SMTP id d2mr34297595qge.41.1390308447469; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.37.227 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 04:47:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:47:27 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: IPV6 and disabling DAD From: krad To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:47:28 -0000 To cut a long story short, I have a virtualized environment (vbox ontop of solaris11) with a couple of freebsd vms. The ipv6 address assignment keeps failing due to duplicated addresses. From what I can see this is basically due to multicast frames being looped back to the guest OS. In my simplistic mind i should just disable dad and do it all manually. I cant find how to do this though. I know this isnt a bsd thing as the linux guests have the same issue. kernel: Cannot enable an interface with a link-local address marked duplicate. kernel: mplex: DAD detected duplicate IPv6 address fe80:4::a00:27ff:fe99:3372: NS in/out=5/1, NA in=0 carrera kernel: mplex: DAD complete for fe80:4::a00:27ff:fe99:3372 - duplicate found From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 13:13:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C80138D6 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8542F1AFA for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W5b8i-0004zG-Bn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:13:12 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:13:12 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:13:12 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <20140121060405.396586d4.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net User-Agent: XPN/1.2.6 (Street Spirit ; FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:13:15 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > For educational and experimental purposes, I'd like to install > FreeBSD along with two Linusi on a laptop. It has a 100 GB SATA > disk which should be sufficient. So I'm searching for important > advice and mentioning of pitfalls that I should avoid. I'm > planning to use FreeBSD 10.0, Kali Linux and Mageia. Here are > some problems or considerations I expect to be facing: > I have FreeBSD and two Linuxes installed on my laptop. My setup is: MBR Boot with GRUB2 All three share the same (extended) partition for swap. Shared data partitions are EXT2 (AFAIK FreeBSD can mount EXT3 but treats it as EXT2 - i.e. no journalling). One of the Linuxes is installed in an extended partition I don't claim that my setup is absolutely optimal, but it's been 100% reliable and works for me. Note: My use of the word "partition" is in the Linux sense. HTH. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fp9sm10450123wib.8.2014.01.21.05.16.29 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Jan 2014 05:16:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:16:28 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation Message-ID: <20140121131628.0bc79469@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20140121060405.396586d4.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:16:33 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:14:31 +0700 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > > Swap: Can the two Linusi share the same swap partition? And > I see no reason why FreeBSD could not use it too, swap partition is > supposed to be empty when the system boots, so any data/formatting > done by another OS will be over written. FreeBSD doesn't care what's already in the SWAP partition, but I think Linux requires it to have be formated as swap with mkswap. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 13:31:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19237E2C for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42::50ed:8591]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C96251D8D for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xdsl-87-78-56-118.netcologne.de ([87.78.56.118] helo=dijkstra.cruwe.de); authenticated by wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1W5bPt-0007HU-47; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:30:57 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:30:51 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: texlive fonts configuration: cannot find Arial, Times Message-ID: <20140121143051.7565c4b3@dijkstra.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <201401211137.s0LBbEE9017782@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20140120135140.0aafbaaf@dijkstra.cruwe.de> <201401211137.s0LBbEE9017782@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;cjr@cruwe.de;1390311059;754fa4ff; Cc: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:31:00 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:37:17 -0800 (PST) Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:51:40 +0100 > >From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: texlive fonts configuration: cannot find Arial, Times > > > >On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:40:40 +0100 > >Polytropon wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:22:43 -0800 (PST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >> > Hi > >> > > >> > I'm starting to use texlive. > >> > I installed texlive-full-20120701. > >> > > >> > I need to build a document with these > >> > declarations: > >> > > >> > \usepackage{fontspec} > >> > \usepackage{subfigure} > >> > \setmainfont{Times New Roman} > >> > \setsansfont{Arial} > >> > > >> > [...] > >> > > >> > I presume these basic fonts should be available > >> > as part of the default installation, right? > >> > >> I don't think so. Those are fonts made by MICROS~1 to avoid > >> licensing real fonts. :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > So probably I haven't configured texlive fonts correctly? > >> > >> I'm not sure in how far TeXlive is able to pick up fonts > >> installed on the system (usually fonts for use in X), but > >> maybe you could try installing the "webfonts" package? It > >> helps to make web pages look better when they have been > >> "optimized" for use with "Windows" (i. e., explicitely > >> requiring things like "Arial"). The results can then be > >> found in the /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/ directory. > >> > >> > >> > >> > I've these directories: > >> > > >> > $ ls /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/fonts/ > >> > afm enc misc ovf > >> > sfd truetype cid fea > >> > ofm ovp source type1 > >> > cmap map opentype pk > >> > tfm vf > >> > > >> > But not sure if this is enough. > >> > >> Those are the fonts to be used with Metafont. As I said, > >> I'm not sure if those can interact in some way with other > >> fonts in the systmm. > >> > >> > >> > >> Just as a sidenote: > >> > >> If you want a good-looking serif font, just use the CMR > >> (Computer Modern Roman) that is the default font for many > >> LaTeX cases. If you want a Helvetica-like font (which "Arial" > >> is a poor replacement for), try this: > >> > >> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > >> \usepackage[scaled]{helvet} > >> \renewcommand{\familydefault}{\sfdefault} > >> > >> Note that I'm using this when I need a sans serif font, and > >> it works in teTeX. Not sure if it will also work in TeXlive, > >> but I assume this functionality has been kept. > >> > >> Also note that it isn't "the real Helvetica", but a very good > >> variation that comes with ligatures and looks _much_ better > >> than shabby "Arial". > >> > >> Maybe if you use > >> > >> \setmainfont{cmr} > >> \setsansfont{helvet} > >> > >> you can get the same result? Again, note that I haven't tested > >> this. But giving it a try isn't a hard exercise. :-) > >> > >> > >> > > > >If by some reasons such as e.g. "customer demand" you are forced to > >use fonts normally not available in common latex, you can try xetex. > > > >Then, you have all fonts available which are pulled in by fc-cache > >and declare for instance > > > >\setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Avenir LT Std 35 Light} > > > >Cheers, > > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > ! > ! fontspec error: "font-not-found" > ! > ! The font "Avenir LT Std 35 Light" cannot be found. > ! > ! See the fontspec documentation for further information. > ! > ! For immediate help type H . > !............................................... > > l.32 ...ont[Ligatures=TeX]{Avenir LT Std 35 Light} > > It seems fontspec cannot find this font. > > So do I only have availble what is returned by fc-list? > > Thanks > > Anton > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I do not exactly know whether there is another way with xelatex, but I believe that the answer is yes. All the .ttf and .otf fonts I have available are listed using fc-list. [cjr@dijkstra:~]$ fc-list | grep Avenir | grep 35 (01-21 14:20) /usr/home/cjr/.fonts/Avenir LT Std/AvenirLTStd-Light.otf: Avenir LT \ Std,Avenir LT Std 35 Light:style=35 Light,Regular /usr/home/cjr/.fonts/Avenir LT Std/AvenirLTStd-LightOblique.otf:\ Avenir LT Std,Avenir LT Std 35 Light:style=35 Light Oblique,Italic /usr/home/cjr/.fonts/avenirltstd/AvenirLTStd-Light.otf: Avenir LT \ Std,Avenir LT Std 35 Light:style=35 Light,Regular /usr/home/cjr/.fonts/avenirltstd/AvenirLTStd-LightOblique.otf: Avenir \ LT Std,Avenir LT Std 35 Light:style=35 Light Oblique,Italic I have appended /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype /usr/local/share/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype to /usr/local/etc/fontslocal.conf and have a local ~/.fonts directory which gets pulled in by fc-cache, although I do not remember at the moment why. (FreeBSD Handbook 6.5.3? Could be.) It's the same to add fonts to openoffice. Cheers, -- Christopher TZ: GMT + 1h GnuPG/GPG: 0xE8DE2C14 FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #1 r256184: Thu Oct 10 19:12:54 CEST 2013 cjr@dijkstra.cruwe.de:/usr/obj/usr/home/cjr/media/src/freebsd/base/stable/9/sys/GEN_WDTRACE Punctuation matters: "Lets eat Grandma." or "Lets eat, Grandma." - Punctuation saves lives. "A panda eats shoots and leaves." or "A panda eats, shoots, and leaves." - Punctuation teaches proper biology. "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." (RFC 1925) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 15:35:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BC54FBC for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from frv196.fwdcdn.com (frv196.fwdcdn.com [212.42.77.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 384B9192F for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:35:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=ffe; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-Id:To:Subject:From:Date; bh=pdgU3GkyDfaG9sF58p8VtGDNU2nLwe5nk8j7hP+z7ys=; b=Hs50Ec4+AGt+4xO1M2Km2bY4LKLk9wCvLfXtWDeXM8hZjSsQRmCc0G28AKYtT5qXmQ3TfDemirwQ7y0HHFROYmfGpjkCnqcrzdYRIfrBhvLoRj/rHQOH797IwQ7+sqbs9cydmjV/z1jS53wAej4rUxSg1+y99QJjZ/XBa995G+8=; Received: from [10.10.10.34] (helo=frv34.ukr.net) by frv196.fwdcdn.com with smtp ID 1W5dMG-0005nE-LX for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:35:20 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:35:20 +0200 From: wishmaster Subject: 9.2 -> 10.0 Compille error. To: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: mail.ukr.net 5.0 Message-Id: <1390318454.138054037.136hfeiu@frv34.ukr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from artemrts@ukr.net by frv34.ukr.net; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:35:20 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:35:33 -0000 Hi, anybody has had this error? cc -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fpic -fvisibility=hidden -DVISIBILITY_HIDDEN -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-enum-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -c /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt/../../contrib/compiler-rt/lib/absvdi2.c -o absvdi2.o cc: unrecognized option '-Qunused-arguments' cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-empty-body" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-string-plus-int" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-tautological-compare" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-parentheses-equality" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-enum-conversion" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-knr-promoted-parameter" *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake[2]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake: stopped in /usr/src *** [buildworld] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 15:37:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1D62144 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x230.google.com (mail-qa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0A8B195C for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id f11so6611559qae.21 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:37:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rZO190dAXHNrWGzkWTHLTkbDQBvGpm7OjQwQC3kCPfg=; b=nM2XiCp5M+tB+Itkid3tjLFnt0xJLipZaOokQSQUtaKdve0V5/BOfj9V6ODQfsdKmw BHjA1UF0GOdrxgJSkaBYBuG3nZHCHNQAZcgmctMXjBGQotqhAwG2N8adSdx02PdaNbmh LwhICXWT+JiXuW4sPqQtZURsQFn2TyzANXSzM5V2pD0VWVq8HfSWw3Igud/sQEXy6+CA 45j4PSvAsfExjG0CNnpTGuAKd2Bplj4y4UW+aSdVyrwsThJSlxHEq5Hl41ZVVge5WE76 tXMvq1KmgVbimDG0/Jdf1xxGdYVk/UVFsntmhD9nKZmN6OhPwT47pUuHZI3S35UQb4O5 t/ng== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.93.130 with SMTP id d2mr35706909qge.41.1390318652877; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.37.227 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:37:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:37:32 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: IPV6 and disabling DAD From: krad To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:37:34 -0000 after reading the source it seems the following tunable is what i needed net.inet6.ip6.dad_count=0 On 21 January 2014 12:47, krad wrote: > To cut a long story short, I have a virtualized environment (vbox ontop of > solaris11) with a couple of freebsd vms. The ipv6 address assignment keeps > failing due to duplicated addresses. From what I can see this is basically > due to multicast frames being looped back to the guest OS. In my simplistic > mind i should just disable dad and do it all manually. I cant find how to > do this though. I know this isnt a bsd thing as the linux guests have the > same issue. > > kernel: Cannot enable an interface with a link-local address marked > duplicate. > > kernel: mplex: DAD detected duplicate IPv6 address > fe80:4::a00:27ff:fe99:3372: NS in/out=5/1, NA in=0 > carrera kernel: mplex: DAD complete for fe80:4::a00:27ff:fe99:3372 - > duplicate found > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 15:47:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29EC1785 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A59071A77 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id hm7so4415565lab.17 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:47:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=2AjxWKzIJQaDyEFdENSPFE331r0/nAnTKCt5zvFO0OM=; b=n1TqpS/sCv/o7SajRopT5cJ5FSLSsf0gmi8vGpZZOZ9VNxUnVSL8nAUw7t538sA1vw 4yTsx+ranjWuhF+3z19lnIDjFOOrjkThWS1yNraqqyN6F9mfsOxfBS3zw4LHX0xMPTSH j9EcaTm0vJxupJAHD60I6HDaSyT4Xjqe/2szxsvbCh1atJxiddspZqUa+T5nJ3cLE77T qlMDG/75lhNqWCkqLEjCfIWqHcWYbz6tr7KRLzR+Cr3WTawXMyBO2e5sBPAzxX+raa+A 2BEkwJYLUiIgYLNkqaCOXZAHkC4Bu1AfIwjWZiBoM42Pi1lcs9hjeMMqFl5XHEA98950 YZWQ== X-Received: by 10.112.168.66 with SMTP id zu2mr574698lbb.60.1390319252700; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:47:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.129.136 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:46:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1390318454.138054037.136hfeiu@frv34.ukr.net> References: <1390318454.138054037.136hfeiu@frv34.ukr.net> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:46:51 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 9.2 -> 10.0 Compille error. To: wishmaster Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:47:35 -0000 Does this mean you are UPDATING from 9.2 to 10.0-RELEASE?? Hmm, better just do a fresh install. There may be ways out though, but I'd not try it with the changes I saw in 10.0!! On 21 January 2014 18:35, wishmaster wrote: > Hi, > > anybody has had this error? > > cc -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fpic -fvisibility=hidden > -DVISIBILITY_HIDDEN -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector > -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized > -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int > -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality > -Wno-unused-function -Wno-enum-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum > -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -c > /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt/../../contrib/compiler-rt/lib/absvdi2.c -o > absvdi2.o > cc: unrecognized option '-Qunused-arguments' > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-empty-body" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-string-plus-int" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-tautological-compare" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-parentheses-equality" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-enum-conversion" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-knr-promoted-parameter" > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake[2]: stopped in /usr/src > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake[1]: stopped in /usr/src > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake: stopped in /usr/src > *** [buildworld] Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 16:33:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19FC855A for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from frv196.fwdcdn.com (frv196.fwdcdn.com [212.42.77.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6A4D1F59 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:33:16 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=ffe; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Cc:To:Subject:From:Date; bh=cwI/u4KwtAqKLlcrG7j0QNQJSYpBC8ZZonTC2t+dTn0=; b=fWTgpsad+5b2CDWJ4JmhHi9jxSrqe/rOluFD4NaPbOpcNC3lwo/pp1/TpeqDLAok3rD3VETY582v+o+X4RmOHaXyPnYmK6IRF6Ank4ss0gE6u07X2eNHWS5FOC0rTMnLwNr4YM3cBcns/vN22SKteVpH/pxcKLq6X9c22gNAAhw=; Received: from [10.10.10.34] (helo=frv34.ukr.net) by frv196.fwdcdn.com with smtp ID 1W5eGI-000Irz-Kl for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:33:14 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:33:14 +0200 From: wishmaster Subject: Re[2]: 9.2 -> 10.0 Compille error. To: Odhiambo Washington X-Mailer: mail.ukr.net 5.0 Message-Id: <1390321475.740479345.wsfoy2po@frv34.ukr.net> In-Reply-To: References: <1390318454.138054037.136hfeiu@frv34.ukr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from artemrts@ukr.net by frv34.ukr.net; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:33:14 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Disposition: inline Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:33:17 -0000 > > Does this mean you are UPDATING from 9.2 to 10.0-RELEASE?? Yes. It does. If be more exactly from 9.2-STABLE to 10-STABLE > Hmm, better just do a fresh install. There may be ways out though, but I'd not try it with the changes I saw in 10.0!! It is unable. I have just droped src.conf and make.conf to defaults .or the time being without errors. Below src.conf. May be anybody can point me to my mistake. I think there is some dependencies which I've broken: WITHOUT_ATM=true WITHOUT_AMD=true WITHOUT_APM=true WITHOUT_AUDIT=true WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=true WITHOUT_BSNMP=true WITHOUT_CALENDAR=true WITHOUT_CDDL=true WITHOUT_CTM=true WITHOUT_CROSS_COMPILER=true WITHOUT_DICT=true WITHOUT_FLOPPY=true WITHOUT_FREEBSD_UPDATE=true WITHOUT_GAMES=true WITHOUT_GDB=true WITHOUT_GCOV=true WITHOUT_HTML=true WITHOUT_INET6=true WITHOUT_IPFILTER=true WITHOUT_PF=true #WITHOUT_IPFW=true #WITHOUT_INSTALLLIB=true WITHOUT_IPX=true #WITHOUT_JAIL=true WITHOUT_LEGACY_CONSOLE=true WITHOUT_LPR=true WITHOUT_NDIS=true #WITHOUT_NIS=true WITHOUT_NCP=true WITHOUT_NTP=true WITHOUT_PROFILE=true WITHOUT_RCMDS=true WITHOUT_ROUTED=true WITHOUT_RESCUE=true #WITHOUT_QUOTAS=true WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true WITHOUT_SHAREDOCS=true WITH_SVN=true WITHOUT_TCSH=true WITHOUT_USB=true WITHOUT_WIRELESS=true WITHOUT_WPA_SUPPLICANT_EAPOL=true WITHOUT_ZFS=true > > > > > > On 21 January 2014 18:35, wishmaster wrote: > Hi, anybody has had this error? cc   -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fpic -fvisibility=hidden -DVISIBILITY_HIDDEN -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments  -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-enum-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -c /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt/../../contrib/compiler-rt/lib/absvdi2.c -o absvdi2.o cc: unrecognized option '-Qunused-arguments' cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-empty-body" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-string-plus-int" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-tautological-compare" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-parentheses-equality" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-enum-conversion" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-knr-promoted-parameter" *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake[2]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake: stopped in /usr/src *** [buildworld] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 16:33:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 206F16D7 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qe0-x236.google.com (mail-qe0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D46CD1F71 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f54.google.com with SMTP id df13so7366333qeb.13 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:33:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jnkiaIqseAwAgMvMXe00RojZBe2gKHj2di5vN4nnT7I=; b=NGGOcoLaFo3Jh0ip7EnNb68QFIMUeGEUlRt5Yu2eSDQWe04M9XBV5aOExA7yT1W7vk kscFQyWBhXBVcpK1zV41cnYniE6ZCQNqn/rl7iFsW4EGxguzsB99INb+lTUfHldMq7+h /YTbX1U+aarY8HHzACwk4o5cA+qzGCRPgWDmEC+XWxk/n3PRznPQyY/Q+SbhnGsO2WfH V/2fsXt7hofqtox2w66sZ5LiMq5zifBdS8RmAmzU136q1qn3Jwj80lpQCbcdsg92d5WJ BhcHxxaAQm1OqofFokmeqTU6WpC+tfEKZ1CkPnuKVY8WtOeDXmgYZB0XmzezJcq3NUk+ x2vw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.41.234 with SMTP id z97mr36550186qgz.89.1390322029011; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:33:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: pldrouin@gmail.com Received: by 10.96.157.35 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:33:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:33:48 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FBHL9ZDPxWAMFznaIXbFETTYozs Message-ID: Subject: What happened to NO_GAMES, NO_SENDMAIL and NO_LPR options in make.conf ? From: Pierre-Luc Drouin To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:33:50 -0000 Hi, I have the NO_GAMES, NO_SENDMAIL and NO_LPR options in make.conf to prevent these from installing when I buildworld, but I noticed that these options no longer have an effect. What is the new method to prevent the buildworld process from building these? Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 17:03:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B7CFF19 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway01.edpnet.net (relaygateway01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39509120C for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:03:33 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnAGAAyn3lJNbXft/2dsb2JhbABZgws4g1O4IU+BEhd0giUBAQEDAQEBASArCBgLBQsLGAICBRMOAgIPBRMBCQgkCAcEARwEh1wMCac8lyeEfxeBKY0FAQFPB4IvQIFJBJVRglABgTKJHIdKgy47MYEE X-IPAS-Result: AnAGAAyn3lJNbXft/2dsb2JhbABZgws4g1O4IU+BEhd0giUBAQEDAQEBASArCBgLBQsLGAICBRMOAgIPBRMBCQgkCAcEARwEh1wMCac8lyeEfxeBKY0FAQFPB4IvQIFJBJVRglABgTKJHIdKgy47MYEE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,696,1384297200"; d="scan'208";a="231970607" Received: from 77.109.119.237.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.119.237]) by relaygateway01.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 21 Jan 2014 17:45:39 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:03:24 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Pierre-Luc Drouin Subject: Re: What happened to NO_GAMES, NO_SENDMAIL and NO_LPR options in make.conf ? Message-ID: <20140121170324.GM39980@mordor.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:03:34 -0000 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:33:48AM -0500, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > Hi, > > I have the NO_GAMES, NO_SENDMAIL and NO_LPR options in make.conf to prevent it's WITHOUT_GAMES, WITHOUT_SENDMAIL and WITHOUT_LPR, and those have to be set in src.conf and not make.conf > these from installing when I buildworld, but I noticed that these options > no longer have an effect. What is the new method to prevent the buildworld > process from building these? > > Thank you! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 18:34:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A201669 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22c.google.com (mail-lb0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A18881A92 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id c11so6261990lbj.17 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:34:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=EN5DYb3BVXaQVdbqZpYXkyd+Nx81fVn+EOsQ04XuSRk=; b=WcGdD8+IcovV9uf5ZbyfYz67bBJ988o0TMDlffijodzXynS43E8MY7sNvFXLM8Y3eS FZEu58gckj3dfSZyioeayiaI5xOR6H4sc1mj5jW7XWAi9agdCCpL4bZbM9x0o2+AbblH v3nmFg9rHFCHjxvWVzVLtI5ttCWdBuBNwIg4SKGgnwi9/oZCAQF/j3qGHzhJC1TPuI8G JWtRfH67pb2eF73GL8mPATqtovHuH/BGOLI+LNYJ+zuydPTTNruKq5iCqi0zKKGP7bgD 2wkiEOjuu32Zz7flgrGkVU3Tvfw1MOJFDe7gIo6/fPKBPl2LxeFxgKwzr9I//AAvqkhT O73w== X-Received: by 10.152.28.230 with SMTP id e6mr17099165lah.3.1390329269559; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:34:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.129.136 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:33:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1390321475.740479345.wsfoy2po@frv34.ukr.net> References: <1390318454.138054037.136hfeiu@frv34.ukr.net> <1390321475.740479345.wsfoy2po@frv34.ukr.net> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:33:49 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re[2]: 9.2 -> 10.0 Compille error. To: wishmaster Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:34:32 -0000 A good guy going by the names of Ralf S. Engelschall used o document major upgrade procedures here ->http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/upgrade/ and I remember I tested his procedure for upgrade from 8.x -> 9.x and it worked!! He was most responsive and helpful. However, such procedure seems untenable for 9.x -> 10.x ... there are so many changes in 10.0 that it would just make sense to install 10.0 and migrate your data instead of upgrading from 9.x. However, this is a rope you've chosen for yourself. Go right ahead and commit the digital suicide:) On 21 January 2014 19:33, wishmaster wrote: > > > > > Does this mean you are UPDATING from 9.2 to 10.0-RELEASE?? > > Yes. It does. If be more exactly from 9.2-STABLE to 10-STABLE > > > Hmm, better just do a fresh install. There may be ways out though, but > I'd not try it with the changes I saw in 10.0!! > > It is unable. I have just droped src.conf and make.conf to defaults .or > the time being without errors. > Below src.conf. May be anybody can point me to my mistake. I think there > is some dependencies which I've broken: > > WITHOUT_ATM=true > WITHOUT_AMD=true > WITHOUT_APM=true > WITHOUT_AUDIT=true > WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=true > WITHOUT_BSNMP=true > WITHOUT_CALENDAR=true > WITHOUT_CDDL=true > WITHOUT_CTM=true > WITHOUT_CROSS_COMPILER=true > WITHOUT_DICT=true > WITHOUT_FLOPPY=true > WITHOUT_FREEBSD_UPDATE=true > WITHOUT_GAMES=true > WITHOUT_GDB=true > WITHOUT_GCOV=true > WITHOUT_HTML=true > WITHOUT_INET6=true > WITHOUT_IPFILTER=true > WITHOUT_PF=true > #WITHOUT_IPFW=true > #WITHOUT_INSTALLLIB=true > WITHOUT_IPX=true > #WITHOUT_JAIL=true > WITHOUT_LEGACY_CONSOLE=true > WITHOUT_LPR=true > WITHOUT_NDIS=true > #WITHOUT_NIS=true > WITHOUT_NCP=true > WITHOUT_NTP=true > WITHOUT_PROFILE=true > WITHOUT_RCMDS=true > WITHOUT_ROUTED=true > WITHOUT_RESCUE=true > #WITHOUT_QUOTAS=true > WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true > WITHOUT_SHAREDOCS=true > WITH_SVN=true > WITHOUT_TCSH=true > WITHOUT_USB=true > WITHOUT_WIRELESS=true > WITHOUT_WPA_SUPPLICANT_EAPOL=true > WITHOUT_ZFS=true > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21 January 2014 18:35, wishmaster wrote: > > Hi, > > anybody has had this error? > > cc -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fpic -fvisibility=hidden > -DVISIBILITY_HIDDEN -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector > -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized > -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int > -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality > -Wno-unused-function -Wno-enum-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum > -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -c > /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt/../../contrib/compiler-rt/lib/absvdi2.c -o > absvdi2.o > cc: unrecognized option '-Qunused-arguments' > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-empty-body" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-string-plus-int" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-tautological-compare" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-parentheses-equality" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-enum-conversion" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-knr-promoted-parameter" > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake[2]: stopped in /usr/src > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake[1]: stopped in /usr/src > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake: stopped in /usr/src > *** [buildworld] Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > > Nairobi,KE > > +254733744121/+254722743223 > > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > > > -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 18:52:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C9A9C8 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E0231D23 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (host86-163-34-80.range86-163.btcentralplus.com [86.163.34.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0LIqVOb061620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:52:31 GMT (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52DEC1F2.1040008@fjl.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:52:34 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Mounting NTFS on 10.0-RELEASE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:52:40 -0000 I new I was in for trouble when mount_ntfs wasn't found... Okay, I need to mount an NTFS volume on FreeBSD 10.0 (on ZFS if it matters). Unfortunately there doesn't look to be an NTFS module any more. 'sfunny, as I thought putting FUSE in the base system was supposed to interface to anything. It probably does, but I just don't know how and I'm in a hurry. Reading the obvious manual pages isn't any help, so I need a non-obvious one, no doubt. As this has whole FUSE business has been in flux, all the pages I Google are out-of-date. I might suggest that when commands like mount_ntfs are removed for the base that they be replaced by a script to print out some help. Thanks, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 19:09:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E5E3FBB; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E053D1EB8; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0LJ97vh097051 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:09:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:09:07 -0600 From: dweimer To: Odhiambo Washington Subject: Re: Re[2]: 9.2 -> 10.0 Compille error. Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: References: <1390318454.138054037.136hfeiu@frv34.ukr.net> <1390321475.740479345.wsfoy2po@frv34.ukr.net> Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0-beta Cc: questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, wishmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:09:10 -0000 On 01/21/2014 12:33 pm, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > A good guy going by the names of Ralf S. Engelschall used o document > major > upgrade procedures here ->http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/upgrade/ and I > remember I tested his procedure for upgrade from 8.x -> 9.x and it > worked!! > He was most responsive and helpful. However, such procedure seems > untenable > for 9.x -> 10.x ... there are so many changes in 10.0 that it would > just > make sense to install 10.0 and migrate your data instead of upgrading > from > 9.x. However, this is a rope you've chosen for yourself. Go right ahead > and > commit the digital suicide:) > > > On 21 January 2014 19:33, wishmaster wrote: > >> >> > >> > Does this mean you are UPDATING from 9.2 to 10.0-RELEASE?? >> >> Yes. It does. If be more exactly from 9.2-STABLE to 10-STABLE >> >> > Hmm, better just do a fresh install. There may be ways out though, but >> I'd not try it with the changes I saw in 10.0!! >> >> It is unable. I have just droped src.conf and make.conf to defaults >> .or >> the time being without errors. >> Below src.conf. May be anybody can point me to my mistake. I think >> there >> is some dependencies which I've broken: >> >> WITHOUT_ATM=true >> WITHOUT_AMD=true >> WITHOUT_APM=true >> WITHOUT_AUDIT=true >> WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=true >> WITHOUT_BSNMP=true >> WITHOUT_CALENDAR=true >> WITHOUT_CDDL=true >> WITHOUT_CTM=true >> WITHOUT_CROSS_COMPILER=true >> WITHOUT_DICT=true >> WITHOUT_FLOPPY=true >> WITHOUT_FREEBSD_UPDATE=true >> WITHOUT_GAMES=true >> WITHOUT_GDB=true >> WITHOUT_GCOV=true >> WITHOUT_HTML=true >> WITHOUT_INET6=true >> WITHOUT_IPFILTER=true >> WITHOUT_PF=true >> #WITHOUT_IPFW=true >> #WITHOUT_INSTALLLIB=true >> WITHOUT_IPX=true >> #WITHOUT_JAIL=true >> WITHOUT_LEGACY_CONSOLE=true >> WITHOUT_LPR=true >> WITHOUT_NDIS=true >> #WITHOUT_NIS=true >> WITHOUT_NCP=true >> WITHOUT_NTP=true >> WITHOUT_PROFILE=true >> WITHOUT_RCMDS=true >> WITHOUT_ROUTED=true >> WITHOUT_RESCUE=true >> #WITHOUT_QUOTAS=true >> WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=true >> WITHOUT_SHAREDOCS=true >> WITH_SVN=true >> WITHOUT_TCSH=true >> WITHOUT_USB=true >> WITHOUT_WIRELESS=true >> WITHOUT_WPA_SUPPLICANT_EAPOL=true >> WITHOUT_ZFS=true >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 21 January 2014 18:35, wishmaster wrote: >> > Hi, >> >> anybody has had this error? >> >> cc -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fpic -fvisibility=hidden >> -DVISIBILITY_HIDDEN -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector >> -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized >> -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int >> -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality >> -Wno-unused-function -Wno-enum-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum >> -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -c >> /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt/../../contrib/compiler-rt/lib/absvdi2.c -o >> absvdi2.o >> cc: unrecognized option '-Qunused-arguments' >> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-empty-body" >> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-string-plus-int" >> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option >> "-Wno-tautological-compare" >> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option >> "-Wno-parentheses-equality" >> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-enum-conversion" >> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option >> "-Wno-knr-promoted-parameter" >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop. >> bmake[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop. >> bmake[2]: stopped in /usr/src >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop. >> bmake[1]: stopped in /usr/src >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop. >> bmake: stopped in /usr/src >> *** [buildworld] Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/src. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Best regards, >> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> > Nairobi,KE >> > +254733744121/+254722743223 >> > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >> > >> I have not had any problems getting the build world or kernel to work, under 9.2, so you might want to check on the options you have set in /etc/make.conf and /etc/src.conf and see if one of them is causing your build issue. I have not however, successfully been able to get my ports to reinstall after doing an update though, but I haven't given up trying on test systems yet. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 19:23:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D155854A for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x236.google.com (mail-pd0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A89061002 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id v10so8539300pde.41 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:23:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WD77siSJUOWp0mBdRxg9yha417SQ6S2Vv9ND208DOsE=; b=SyV83luWpNW1fqtsGGryDpuBMcfkrsS5yifid5WC6CaAhUj6SYJZnaMAMI3oghLIUI sbc8hHHyFArAa1kHqIzovtKwfXFqosv2n0xxVc9ZiS/pA3xNUUWB4fYsDAzc8QuJ6fpN XDc1cOdUAyj/U9fG22uxPIxICaiqUdJX17rSkT2wQPFxTj6Gl5TOGsalVZX9hgUtghIC 31pOu1qio+sOLcVME6NV52GnzHK9aBOhPEsH+g+UlVnHnyWuxPmFEXaOZJ9g7UBorgS7 PqcI6gcI6pDA20dvAT8SmeTKrUKfzTSAMgQIUcz2s2g9EpnapWdnixwzJho5PQwNGRTH rjsw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.228.138 with SMTP id si10mr26931354pbc.13.1390332231361; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.92.71 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:23:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1390318454.138054037.136hfeiu@frv34.ukr.net> References: <1390318454.138054037.136hfeiu@frv34.ukr.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:23:51 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 9.2 -> 10.0 Compille error. From: Adam Vande More To: wishmaster Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:23:51 -0000 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:35 AM, wishmaster wrote: > Hi, > > anybody has had this error? > > cc -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fpic -fvisibility=hidden > -DVISIBILITY_HIDDEN -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector > -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized > -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int > -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality > -Wno-unused-function -Wno-enum-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum > -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -c > /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt/../../contrib/compiler-rt/lib/absvdi2.c -o > absvdi2.o > cc: unrecognized option '-Qunused-arguments' > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-empty-body" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-string-plus-int" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-tautological-compare" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-parentheses-equality" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-enum-conversion" > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-knr-promoted-parameter" > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake[2]: stopped in /usr/src > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake[1]: stopped in /usr/src > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > bmake: stopped in /usr/src > *** [buildworld] Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > Make sure you are running ALL the steps IN ORDER. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 20:38:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61509583 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from frv191.fwdcdn.com (frv191.fwdcdn.com [212.42.77.191]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 184D0167F for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.2.23] (helo=frv198.fwdcdn.com) by frv191.fwdcdn.com with esmtp ID 1W5hpg-000MnK-PC for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:22:00 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=ffe; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Cc:To:Subject:From:Date; bh=C+y/EYGnD/1y9pV0K5LO8N6APSmtpEnupvxN/BZT6lo=; b=StD5jRgcG4Twz9W2D/FsXkL1XB+gJMuw7W2L7ykbIlHx7uJl+h2rxOfhDdK0uFUey0UXLZO9yGzr3hZmfeM5+ZNyyTBQC4zJgzLkXIdLCkHM686UWoaZ/YvmenY2hFtieb6VQXEKBBdw2hpnMwqz5BXng8pc1xXcv1RLqxzKPo4=; Received: from [10.10.10.34] (helo=frv34.ukr.net) by frv198.fwdcdn.com with smtp ID 1W5hpW-000Mj5-7p for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:21:50 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:21:49 +0200 From: wishmaster Subject: Re[2]: 9.2 -> 10.0 Compille error. To: Adam Vande More X-Mailer: mail.ukr.net 5.0 Message-Id: <1390335440.120375640.strkarkg@frv34.ukr.net> In-Reply-To: References: <1390318454.138054037.136hfeiu@frv34.ukr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from artemrts@ukr.net by frv34.ukr.net; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:21:49 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Disposition: inline Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:38:43 -0000 --- Original message --- From: "Adam Vande More" Date: 21 January 2014, 21:23:52 > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:35 AM, wishmaster wrote: > Hi, anybody has had this error? cc   -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fpic -fvisibility=hidden -DVISIBILITY_HIDDEN -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments  -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-enum-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -c /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt/../../contrib/compiler-rt/lib/absvdi2.c -o absvdi2.o cc: unrecognized option '-Qunused-arguments' cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-empty-body" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-string-plus-int" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-tautological-compare" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-parentheses-equality" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-enum-conversion" cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-knr-promoted-parameter" *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/libcompiler_rt *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake[2]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake: stopped in /usr/src *** [buildworld] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. > > > > Make sure you are running ALL the steps IN ORDER. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html > Thanks Adam, but I have been using FreeBSD since 2006 and always use rebuild world/kernel. I know this steps like Gebet. Well, I have found problem. Two options were commented #WITHOUT_CDDL=true #WITHOUT_CROSS_COMPILER=true and now all fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 22:00:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AFD162D for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-x232.google.com (mail-pb0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 500F81DFA for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id rq2so9004424pbb.9 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:00:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kEw6ss6bWjCzRKeotmKL45LjWJvCcsnOUU1bVhnvZVk=; b=DyzVsvw892BKURLttqICr5wDd6yBxKhGi9AhnCObFAUAc9nn0a5U8lRC+SsbjXzX2v c1fTFMyWcXn5/zhO53JgxQtKB/kN0pqviyPUZidBnjgay3dx7zf4mWmU1B+ovX0r8H/h Fbj+GCvLSmgp4+GGN/VMU7VYPtDYo3Fypa0YHPvCwaMTypP593koD6cJOenQ5O+r+r4j EfBYU3DLlKSyY9zj8Nv44GCGWaW3u+YJ9VTC2gp9WS3CYkSf/Ov5Vf3nxMJpAWmC4nH7 1N+VG96hdwLL82JnVI79W9SK7+O6vE49Hz01l7n25gd+DV4NmLf07iOaAPsG/3Wc9LZp cZBQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.221.68 with SMTP id qc4mr27228101pbc.29.1390341638814; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.92.71 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:00:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1390335440.120375640.strkarkg@frv34.ukr.net> References: <1390318454.138054037.136hfeiu@frv34.ukr.net> <1390335440.120375640.strkarkg@frv34.ukr.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:00:38 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re[2]: 9.2 -> 10.0 Compille error. From: Adam Vande More To: wishmaster Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:00:39 -0000 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:21 PM, wishmaster wrote: > > > > > > > > > Make sure you are running ALL the steps IN ORDER. > > > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html > > > Thanks Adam, but I have been using FreeBSD since 2006 and always use > rebuild world/kernel. I know this steps like Gebet. > > Well, I have found problem. Two options were commented > > #WITHOUT_CDDL=true > #WITHOUT_CROSS_COMPILER=true > > and now all fine. > > The page I linked to directs you to check make.conf and src.conf. So I repeat, make sure you are running ALL the steps IN ORDER. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 23:36:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C29F1BD3 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FD551598 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id s0LNPP5E088343 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:25:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <52DF01E5.4070801@dreamchaser.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:25:25 -0700 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: source (.drv) files for cups ppd files? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:25:25 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:36:57 -0000 I'm trying to figure out how to improve the ppd file for the epson 3880 printer, and in order to do that I need the source (.drv) files used to create the ppd file. I thought it should have been in one of the cups ports, but after expanding them I don't see it. All that is there is the ppd files for the individual printers, each separately gzipped up. Am I missing something? Thanks for any clues, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 00:00:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD07F319 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 00:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.networktest.com (mail5.networktest.com [204.109.60.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96FF4170F for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 00:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C20C2FCCA0 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:53:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail5.networktest.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail5.networktest.com [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08012-06 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:53:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp131.eng.networktest.com (ns.networktest.com [205.147.16.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3CB0D2FCC96 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:53:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52DF088C.7040800@networktest.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:53:48 -0800 From: David Newman Organization: Network Test Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd-update and 10.0: Just checking X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 00:00:23 -0000 Just checking: Ate there any issues with upgrading a plain-vanilla 9.2-RELEASE box to 10.0-RELEASE using freebsd-update? The 10.0 release announcement contains scary warnings about upgrading using freebsd-update, but the installation instructions look like the usual procedure. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/announce.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/installation.html Errata 13:04 and 13:05 pertain to 10.0 release candidates, so I'm hoping these issues got fixed before the final release. Thanks! dn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 01:54:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C17D72CC for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 01:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lancer.b1c1l1.com (lancer.b1c1l1.com [IPv6:2607:f358:1a:1a:1000::]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A73D41F88 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 01:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lancer.b1c1l1.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25CC217464D; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:53:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=b1c1l1.com; s=default; t=1390355636; bh=sS680qhV34YSZkGFxlQpzYKDM1QDQ8XmSq5bwK70Vks=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=5vTvMhb2L2t9JeAc0t853EgBAl3pPo5tC3aYZZtOdsQcQ1V7Vy5fkOmCzZ3zc0NIS IO6Kmid30B7QOSXo26nzfRhQdoMBtL/KfzCI4q4P6ezE2PblpAzpDmrT5gi9xxtiV2 HH20nonBlKS9DcVxV4yJ8exCUl4jDpFxeGTSbe9A= Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:53:51 -0800 From: Benjamin Lee To: David Newman Subject: Re: freebsd-update and 10.0: Just checking Message-ID: <20140121175351.69302be2@b1c1l1.com> In-Reply-To: <52DF088C.7040800@networktest.com> References: <52DF088C.7040800@networktest.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/j8_hSvlkHCjF17j4slk3Y8j"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 01:54:02 -0000 --Sig_/j8_hSvlkHCjF17j4slk3Y8j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:53:48 -0800, David Newman = wrote: > Just checking: Ate there any issues with upgrading a plain-vanilla > 9.2-RELEASE box to 10.0-RELEASE using freebsd-update? Yes, you must first upgrade to the latest version of freebsd-update(8). You can either follow the manual steps listed in the errata or use freebsd-update to upgrade to 9.2-RELEASE-p2. --=20 Benjamin Lee http://www.b1c1l1.com/ --Sig_/j8_hSvlkHCjF17j4slk3Y8j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJS3ySyAAoJEIdV4+NBZRmFh4kP/RNxkcQ+Mzh8BY8WKoX22o9c JUVubDDhe7IRocsfATetS+zTA5GFrNVlx9aWjX+8IMwTOg43wzY2qjnXWLd5ag9W CJOxqbpAe9zWSY2nMoIsO7W4Gd81xaLzMZ2USpgov3HDOyyMLbNtii7MOCZuzYOo ialEkhcI1/yeWMUjgxc6AxredoG+Za5x2x/eoe9R5LEKrYK0ztKK+n94Atqvsg/c 8OmJVOkW2KjnQcn+P/HiQi5cneFfgLhK9N8TSgunmNdLNx91h1CGV2uNS6/HrCtA MekFyG7yrNpkHd05iEkNb9xUDRSlZQf0NL83R4NSPMlwLjqmrQ+vxGpRRRH4Maw1 /42lf9SZnCPHIBZUwbcU/9nM9+K1P3777TPE9S4tgdV6Xr5J+R53FgwMVLArsNMT 3kiqeX5zdAuT+UPJWeejS6uMO/rhhyidnGpfvIyXUCP1EvwANpuyasnlyYNG7+AW pnGqaZFnhI9kDAhfDXqHvuKIMemNy0Za9cQx7hOJJ9paMbnJ7zDj83DtZEoxbkk8 1E0V9ip1PWJ34RLCa9EiejPrbGpvgk8zu9jQslQ7haUX2GnaRsZlziSEzZzTDctM Vz+WEiK1Sl633wCEViXJVBZDQRSRlKrguh84sKdNepNaZvh8RwIzf4+H+sY0FapJ u0gdE23InMpdj85t15G5 =grKu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/j8_hSvlkHCjF17j4slk3Y8j-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 02:49:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FF9BC07 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 02:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EFA1307 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 02:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [96.28.178.143] ([96.28.178.143:30335] helo=localhost) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 0A/C0-02594-E913FD25; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 02:49:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 02:49:02 +0000 Message-ID: <0A.C0.02594.E913FD25@cdptpa-oedge01> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <52DF088C.7040800@networktest.com> Subject: Re: freebsd-update and 10.0: Just checking X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Cc: David Newman X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 02:49:09 -0000 from David Newman : > Just checking: Ate there any issues with upgrading a plain-vanilla > 9.2-RELEASE box to 10.0-RELEASE using freebsd-update? > The 10.0 release announcement contains scary warnings about upgrading > using freebsd-update, but the installation instructions look like the > usual procedure. > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/announce.html > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/installation.html > Errata 13:04 and 13:05 pertain to 10.0 release candidates, so I'm hoping > these issues got fixed before the final release. > Thanks! > dn I found a bug in one section (2.1) of installation.html: 2.1. Upgrading from Source The procedure for doing a source code based update is described in and . For SVN use the releng/10.0 branch which will be where any upcoming Security Advisories or Errata Notices will be applied. (end of quote) It looks like they copied from a template and forgot to fill in the blanks in the first sentence above. I would know to look in /usr/src/UPDATING or $SRCDIR/UPDATING . Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 06:38:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE78E344 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 06:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm5-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.153]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ACEC13D5 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 06:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.39.60.169] by nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2014 06:36:57 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.96] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2014 06:36:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2014 06:36:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1390372617; bh=iQ/2+gdsVidzPiLBYLZIFqPP7bX8jkzZTQIcX4A8dxk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:References; b=iURCMUO2XPt0rt6tCS42TNkCUoI3gHAq+cMa37zCtfiP5wT076m8zk+msbMYEMWiJly3CSXxvxpMsek/JrDqOufaLfo+KAy4QoTPQks82Vf9wbSlGe0QXTKGXge7MNr4OTFwphDE/P25XMFoLSTZYp1TJJUntb3FpIQm+ToQa9M= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 563483.74912.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <563483.74912.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 06:36:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: kiDiqWoVM1mFUoB2QkwTueA0XNFqwXmJ9HdHLyCuVoFjJQG XkqKGMg2VSnED8naw00VAoi2UOPN_5kMikJGYJbyBI0WjEW6OKvtfiedj2.B .b8uQzDduj16TGXvh1LKgLdLRShWBApto7QssU5EmFHIRpu1T4fEFdHoX_65 o3SgGaDCGI7NUBvaxcn9EaDNvHCJ3ZI9O1O9.vqSHaC3dPKUxk.zHLx7kiER ZtFd9q4xTb1cVv5G5yAdgodQf9vn47IBE3uNZBmdAcd6XK4KSP0ke0UhCofr 7AyRFRUfA8eJVqZAdO9FkIbNofK55JNPR1DcXt5eMabsXCDZUiSZ9ThTs3FI FVDKxu7UQgmQUfXb7QCWcWwYjioZJpZK.KMZnPW7LOoycbcgfxoCZHU8F5eC wUDljmhndBYwmqANkdQY03QnG0QbKkcyVNnFxPRcDeh9k4GeEDkD2Zzcde2y SyhKf42dg0Wa_CSad7cqR5udcDjAhLlruLqmPL8T_83LkG0MaLuZTA.8YgIy lI1FluhaiafPvl7LXfeh8yxsXclWDGCyxT6NtLfl5F9M- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@96.28.178.143 with plain [98.138.31.74]) by smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2014 06:36:57 +0000 UTC From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 9.2 -> 10.0 Compile error References: <1390318454.138054037.136hfeiu@frv34.ukr.net> <1390335440.120375640.strkarkg@frv34.ukr.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 06:38:57 -0000 > The page I linked to directs you to check make.conf and src.conf. So I > repeat, make sure you are running ALL the steps IN ORDER. > Adam I successfully built FreeBSD 10-HEAD from a USB-stick installation of 9.2-STABLE amd64 and 9.1-STABLE i386, respectively for amd64 and i386. I was able to partition the new hard drive with gdisk, installed on the USB stick. Src tree was on hard drive, so I did all the heavy work there. I was at first not able to download the src tree because re(4) failed to connect to Realtek 8111E Ethernet on MSI Z77 MPOWER motherboard. I took and updated a NetBSD-current amd64 USB-stick installation, ran pkg_rolling-release and built devel/subversion from pkgsrc. NetBSD's re(4) works on that motherboard, I checked out the src tree, later doc and ports trees, switched back to FreeBSD USB-stick installations and built FreeBSD 10-HEAD. This was a bit before BETA1, when HEAD was still on releng-10. That was a fresh install rather than an update. Directories on hard drive partition included /usr/src, /usr/ports, /usr/doc, /netbsd-HEAD and /pkgsrc . Now I look ahead to updating 9.2-STABLE installation to 10.0-STABLE using hard drive, understand it will be necessary or strongly recommended to rebuild all ports. I will likely update 10.0 installation on MSI Z77 MPOWER motherboard to STABLE/postrelease, both amd64 (hard drive) and i386 (USB 3.0 stick) first. But I am also working on 11-HEAD for both amd64 and i386. One big reason for i386 installation is Wine. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 07:25:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEC38D58 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22e.google.com (mail-we0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88DA7179E for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id x55so9456wes.33 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:25:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RlGYqOVhBcutPLJZsKQ43mm5NlbTN6XEfXBVE97wTuE=; b=xfkb3YepX3gHx0h+0k0KsxHUUwIO7IV7u+euXoRQtpkLG9ht87ILpRnVzGBh138zTP TB1OExvKplRayg2wY0MkXgpqkn+MUTubPju5WOledwiMkrXm+Z4GnAdykbJ7Sfwe6Cfy qnl5skpYx/W8pSPtvJBKzmIg2Mfzw02UQrdWkK05UFzZMUpOQasBB5ltAOS2Kf9Gfvrz 17g+AiUgIU5I3YAfZz2HoGoAVBB3gBYh64QlPcEu9kbH4cGscWa69jiHKs0Tthyz+r7x PtTjzir2/KND23b1L+D67oMSqmey6y2RWSCLwN/2OAyOGV58BSH+jwWfiHTF3U9fXJTK CIVA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.35.36 with SMTP id e4mr1543763wij.8.1390375509984; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.75.210 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:25:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:55:09 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Server hang : MBR installation after dump and restore on new hard disk From: eras mus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:25:12 -0000 On 1/16/14, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, eras mus wrote: > >> Dear List, >> >> Thank you all for the help. I understood that the old hard disk is dying. >> I booted with a FreeBSD Live CD with the new hard disk. >> Now it detected the old hard disk as /dev/ad4 and new one as /dev/ad7. >> >> Then using sysinstall did slicing and partitioning on the new hard >> disk(ad7). Then dump and restore performed on all the partitions of >> the old hard disk to the new hard disk partitions. > > While sysinstall had a reasonably nice user interface for disk > partitioning, it was and is buggy and best avoided on current versions > of FreeBSD. > >> After performing dump and restore to the new hard disk, I edited the >> /etc/fstab of the root partition so that it will update the /etc/fstab >> for the new hard disk partitions(ad7s1a,ad7s1d,ad7s1f ..... instead of >> the ad4 entries in the /etc/fstab) >> >> Now when i try to boot the machine with both the hard disks as attached. >> It is showing as below >> >> F1 FreeBSD >> F5 Drive 1 >> >> When i select F5 it is going to a GRUB prompt of the new hard disk >> ,Because it already had a linux installation before doing the dump and >> restore operation. >> >> As per my understanding FreeBSD Boot Manager is not installed for the >> new >> hard disk. Am I right? > > Yes. Use 'boot0cfg -B ad7' to install it to the new drive, or > 'fdisk -B ad7' for a plain MBR that just boots without showing the menu. > > You may also need to install bootcode to the BSD partitions themselves. > This can be done with 'bsdlabel -B ad7s1'. I'd recommend using gpart > instead, but you don't say what version of FreeBSD you have, and it may > be old enough that gpart is not present. If gpart is present, see > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_old_standard_mbr > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 07:29:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B901E57 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x236.google.com (mail-we0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 398F317C9 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id w62so12934wes.27 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:29:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xx4vQv+fiG4vYi/dtYcdviR7mglri+9nbVHDfPYLhHY=; b=q3St8o6zw9nkZZ6B3EEYHWm6NHI8Ev0Iv+UO+muWhUTrmABLv3Nm4ZacoRhWvglKjb xTpTtYl9MWqEyTa8CofYOjkTxro6N/M5VsHGFBbwfrbzG0EZoZR+psr6Iu8dLFINMFtf 3RhcyZKELnWQz4lxmv+Jkb39Xa1FTuAZZLGCukN4/I2YnmcHHYhnEkDxfEnbuljo08Ey BruzNwQ/1p/VCGKM2X926Xog7ul/D1+Tub3MCkJK/8P/s8AhgDRV3POGRrxO6B0Qbo+E RbyvR6ANf6sSTDtT4WCh3uyv4CXAlfDU9FdxhE2UUlWeKaKhd5eLCjVD5a3flpA3WpFv tP1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.181.13.11 with SMTP id eu11mr17858835wid.30.1390375771728; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:29:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.75.210 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:29:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:59:31 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: restoresymtable after dump and restore From: eras mus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:29:33 -0000 Dear list, Thank you for the help. My new hard disk is working fine after the dump and restore operation.And able to boot with new disk. But in my /home folder i have a restoresymtable of size 33968468 and that partition is 101% full. Does this file(restoresymtable) has any significance? Could i remove it by rm -rf ? Will removing of the file cause any harm? On 1/16/14, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, eras mus wrote: > >> Dear List, >> >> Thank you all for the help. I understood that the old hard disk is dying. >> I booted with a FreeBSD Live CD with the new hard disk. >> Now it detected the old hard disk as /dev/ad4 and new one as /dev/ad7. >> >> Then using sysinstall did slicing and partitioning on the new hard >> disk(ad7). Then dump and restore performed on all the partitions of >> the old hard disk to the new hard disk partitions. > > While sysinstall had a reasonably nice user interface for disk > partitioning, it was and is buggy and best avoided on current versions > of FreeBSD. > >> After performing dump and restore to the new hard disk, I edited the >> /etc/fstab of the root partition so that it will update the /etc/fstab >> for the new hard disk partitions(ad7s1a,ad7s1d,ad7s1f ..... instead of >> the ad4 entries in the /etc/fstab) >> >> Now when i try to boot the machine with both the hard disks as attached. >> It is showing as below >> >> F1 FreeBSD >> F5 Drive 1 >> >> When i select F5 it is going to a GRUB prompt of the new hard disk >> ,Because it already had a linux installation before doing the dump and >> restore operation. >> >> As per my understanding FreeBSD Boot Manager is not installed for the >> new >> hard disk. Am I right? > > Yes. Use 'boot0cfg -B ad7' to install it to the new drive, or > 'fdisk -B ad7' for a plain MBR that just boots without showing the menu. > > You may also need to install bootcode to the BSD partitions themselves. > This can be done with 'bsdlabel -B ad7s1'. I'd recommend using gpart > instead, but you don't say what version of FreeBSD you have, and it may > be old enough that gpart is not present. If gpart is present, see > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_old_standard_mbr > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 07:44:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C66D4264 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 885B9191A for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB7423D052; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:44:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0M7hea7004795; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:43:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:43:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: eras mus Subject: Re: restoresymtable after dump and restore Message-Id: <20140122084340.4e00c210.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:44:07 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:59:31 +0530, eras mus wrote: > But in my /home folder i have a restoresymtable of size 33968468 > and that partition is 101% full. Note that /home is a directory, not a "folder". This hint is just about proper terminology. :-) > Does this file(restoresymtable) has any significance? > Could i remove it by rm -rf ? > Will removing of the file cause any harm? This file is a remains from running the restore program. It should be safe to remove it. Its creation is usually caused by the -r option of restore (see "man restore" for details). >From the manpage: Note that restore leaves a file restoresymtable in the root directory to pass information between incremental restore passes. This file should be removed when the last incremental has been restored. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 09:18:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E89CE0E for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22f.google.com (mail-wg0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BB7311D0 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id m15so97191wgh.2 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 01:18:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TLNwv+aJ/mx2DzyHwl/hoqIG4zBCNu76llI6H2YlKAw=; b=ex48GrfuUz2rETeSrLTU4kDY/LsqfwGXuiplDVnGgNutNdkDQV5f/LrUi9R8dq52o9 +zTvQZ8Di+r80tgTNZpLD9CQJBYAPqwulJU+rWvmIU59OrFOn25iEuvIfN8y4vbDPzJP HZal8soxHqEvQKiYwSlCGBMl5MtlLHfhBRR+D2qKB0pqS6SBtxVoF8TXOkUAGuM6dkEK 5D/Fdr4mMSvAwGtlAF/EwYjE66bP2ymbEXiIjnquguJxz3sed6ryUfhP2AigmHQ5uzbC hIOqal49JSctXCh5feAOm33uuqR3acIqX6fQq7i8Mpp3p6o8Ye42amHonZrx7wNLCT68 OKag== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.75.202 with SMTP id e10mr18689523wiw.50.1390382288324; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 01:18:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.227.154.201 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 01:18:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 16:18:08 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BQeE4CzsmqFDjm7zzK41NxFGBKQ Message-ID: Subject: Am I getting too old From: Olivier Nicole To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:18:10 -0000 Hi, in the old times (FreeBSD 8) it took me 5 minutes to partition a disk for a test machine: create a couple of MS DOS partitions, install the MBR, create FreeBSD partitions, done. It used to be working easily, efficiently and reliably. Now it had been one day since I tried to reproduce that with FreeBSD 9, not to avail: I always end up with messaged saying things like invalid partition, or stuff like that. What was the rational behind the decision of breaking something that used to work fine (that had been working fine for over 10 years) and replace it with something that is ugly, unfriendly (you have to give some types to the partitions, but nowhere is it written what type is allowed or not) and that is not working? Oh maybe if I choose to go all by default it will work, but I don't want the default, I want to be allowed to make my own choices easily. Best regards Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 09:39:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E1D0A18 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA64B13AB for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDC75E496; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:39:47 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.968 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.968 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Mjh1TL0NligQ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:39:42 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.121] (c224-156-70-80.bjare.net [80.70.156.224]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A3F5E452; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:39:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <52DF91E6.2070809@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:39:50 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Am I getting too old References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:39:56 -0000 Olivier Nicole skrev 2014-01-22 10:18: > Hi, > > in the old times (FreeBSD 8) it took me 5 minutes to partition a disk > for a test machine: create a couple of MS DOS partitions, install the > MBR, create FreeBSD partitions, done. It used to be working easily, > efficiently and reliably. > > Now it had been one day since I tried to reproduce that with FreeBSD > 9, not to avail: I always end up with messaged saying things like > invalid partition, or stuff like that. > > What was the rational behind the decision of breaking something that > used to work fine (that had been working fine for over 10 years) and > replace it with something that is ugly, unfriendly (you have to give > some types to the partitions, but nowhere is it written what type is > allowed or not) and that is not working? > > Oh maybe if I choose to go all by default it will work, but I don't > want the default, I want to be allowed to make my own choices easily. > > Best regards > > Olivier If this had been Facebook I would have liked your post :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 10:05:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEB69246 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BF0E1603 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F27783D19C; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:05:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0MA4cUh010793; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:04:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:04:38 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: Am I getting too old Message-Id: <20140122110438.f7de3bf5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:05:05 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 16:18:08 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > in the old times (FreeBSD 8) it took me 5 minutes to partition a disk > for a test machine: create a couple of MS DOS partitions, install the > MBR, create FreeBSD partitions, done. It used to be working easily, > efficiently and reliably. I assume you're talking about the use of the traditional MBR partitioning tools: fdisk, disklabel / bsdlabel, newfs. Those are considered deprecated. If you're talking about sysinstall and the partitioning tool derived from it, called sade, those aren't being maintained anymore. > Now it had been one day since I tried to reproduce that with FreeBSD > 9, not to avail: I always end up with messaged saying things like > invalid partition, or stuff like that. I tried the traditional tools with FreeBSD 9 and 10, they still seem to work in case they _must_ be used, but gpart, being able to deal with GPT _and_ MBR partitioning, should be used today. The new installer, bsdinstall, is a thing on its own, it's probably fine for novice users, but usually dropping to CLI and issuing the commands often is the faster way to get things running, at least in my experience. > What was the rational behind the decision of breaking something that > used to work fine (that had been working fine for over 10 years) and > replace it with something that is ugly, unfriendly (you have to give > some types to the partitions, but nowhere is it written what type is > allowed or not) and that is not working? The documentation isn't fully integrated into the installer, but at least The FreeBSD Handbook has it covered: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall.html As always, I'd also like to point to those sources of high-quality information which is a good aid to get used to the new set of commands: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/gmirror.html And this one about labels is also helpful: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html Still there should be no real reason why the traditional CLI tools should stop working. > Oh maybe if I choose to go all by default it will work, but I don't > want the default, I want to be allowed to make my own choices easily. Try the CLI tools. Use gpart for creating the partitions and then initialize them with newfs / tunefs as required. It's something new, but there's good documentation. Even manpages do already exist. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[82.127.90.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dd3sm13972662wjb.9.2014.01.22.02.47.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 02:47:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52DFA1C0.9030404@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:47:28 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: manage libraries for multiple parallel python versions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:47:35 -0000 On 14/01/2014 12:35, till plewe wrote: > Are there any simple (stable) methods to manage python libraries for > multiple python versions in parallel? > > What I have in mind is something like: > > $ setenv PYTHON_VERSIONS "2.7,3.2,3.3" > $ cd /usr/ports/devel/py-ply > $ make install clean > > installing three separate versions of py-ply. > > - Till > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >From ports it's possible by setting WITH_PYTHON_VERION=python2.7 make install in your port directory or WITH_PYTHON_VERSION=python3.3. However from binary packages it is not currently possible see [1]. So you can test: cd /usr/ports/devel/py-ply make WITH_PYTHON_VERSION=python2.7 install clean make WITH_PYTHON_VERSION=python3.3 install clean (I never tried myself). [1] https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/582 Regards, David. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 11:54:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1ED2E335 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7B110C5 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:54:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnIGAHSw31Jbs45y/2dsb2JhbABbgwu5ZYMFgRAXdIIlAQEBBDocIxALGAklDyoeBogcAcFrF458B4Q4AQOYIZIZgy47 Received: from 114.142-179-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([91.179.142.114]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 22 Jan 2014 12:53:15 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0MBrD8L002209; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:53:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:53:12 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: Mounting NTFS on 10.0-RELEASE Message-ID: <20140122125312.34ff36f4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <52DEC1F2.1040008@fjl.co.uk> References: <52DEC1F2.1040008@fjl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:54:25 -0000 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:52:34 +0000 Frank Leonhardt wrote: > I new I was in for trouble when mount_ntfs wasn't found... > > Okay, I need to mount an NTFS volume on FreeBSD 10.0 (on ZFS if it > matters). Unfortunately there doesn't look to be an NTFS module any > more. 'sfunny, as I thought putting FUSE in the base system was supposed > to interface to anything. It probably does, but I just don't know how > and I'm in a hurry. Reading the obvious manual pages isn't any help, so > I need a non-obvious one, no doubt. As this has whole FUSE business has > been in flux, all the pages I Google are out-of-date. > > I might suggest that when commands like mount_ntfs are removed for the > base that they be replaced by a script to print out some help. Try the sysutils/fusefs-ntfs port. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 12:35:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B714B56 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [IPv6:2001:470:1d:8da::100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5BC9142B for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:470:89e9:1:feed::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3f8R0c3mgnz1DP4 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from BigBloat (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.20.1.4]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3f8R0Z4Y2Gz1Bjx for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:35:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <201401220735230348.009E6644@smtp.24cl.home> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:35:23 -0500 From: "Mike." To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Am I getting too old Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:35:30 -0000 On 1/22/2014 at 4:18 PM Olivier Nicole wrote: |Hi, | |in the old times (FreeBSD 8) it took me 5 minutes to partition a disk |for a test machine: create a couple of MS DOS partitions, install the |MBR, create FreeBSD partitions, done. It used to be working easily, |efficiently and reliably. | |Now it had been one day since I tried to reproduce that with FreeBSD |9, not to avail: I always end up with messaged saying things like |invalid partition, or stuff like that. | |What was the rational behind the decision of breaking something that |used to work fine (that had been working fine for over 10 years) and |replace it with something that is ugly, unfriendly (you have to give |some types to the partitions, but nowhere is it written what type is |allowed or not) and that is not working? | |Oh maybe if I choose to go all by default it will work, but I don't |want the default, I want to be allowed to make my own choices easily. | |Best regards | |Olivier ============= I had sentiments similar to yours a couple of months ago, except I had been using FreeBSD since around version 4. Except for a (imo, stupid) design decision that allows metadata conflict between gpart and gmirror in some instances, I learned to like using the gtools suite. I did take the time to install FreeBSD on a spare computer, and use and learn the new way of doing things. I found that step to be important because examples for the gsuite are not as common as examples for the older way of doing things. I also found out that the disk you are working on must be clean of any old metadata that may be lurking on it. That was a big source of frustration for me until I discovered that it was the old metadata that was fighting me. I eventually wrote a script that wipes the first few and the last few sectors of a disk drive, as I found that gpart was not always able to clear all metadata. Why, I do not know. imo, that should be a gpart subcommand - unequivocally and assuredly wipe all metadata. ("gpart destroy -F" does not seem to always work). In summary, I now prefer gpart and the gsuite of tools, but they are still rough around the edges in the documentation, ease of use and examples areas. 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[80.229.5.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fz5sm6503597wic.11.2014.01.22.04.46.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 04:46:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52DFBD8F.9070005@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:46:07 +0000 From: James Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: xfce4.10, GUI Reboot/Suspend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:46:11 -0000 Hi I've read a number of older posts found on the internet about using the xfce4 menus to reboot and shutdown the system. Amounts to using options in xinitrc and a '.pkla' file in /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority. All of the variations i've tried do not work as intended. Can someone using xfce4 on FreeBSD 10 explain how to do this, it shouldn't be so difficult (should it?). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 12:57:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CB3618D for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3E7E1602 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4346B3D197; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:57:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0MCv40s012118; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:57:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:57:04 +0100 From: Polytropon To: James Griffin Subject: Re: xfce4.10, GUI Reboot/Suspend Message-Id: <20140122135704.abd0fd22.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52DFBD8F.9070005@gmail.com> References: <52DFBD8F.9070005@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:57:38 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:46:07 +0000, James Griffin wrote: > I've read a number of older posts found on the internet about using the > xfce4 menus to reboot and shutdown the system. [...] Can someone > using xfce4 on FreeBSD 10 explain how to do this, it shouldn't be so > difficult (should it?). I've been using XFCE 3 in the past and got those things working, even though probably different from what today's layered, inter- connected and library-driven concepts suggest. Here's my solution, maybe you can adapt it to your needs: THe user who should be allowed to perform shutdown and suspend has been placed in the "operator" and "wheel" group. The menu entries for the actions have been created to perform the required actions. For example xterm -class SHUTDOWN -fg black -bg red -e "shutdown -p now ; read DUMMY" was associated with the "Shutdown system" menu item, and for suspend, I think (because I can't check this at the moment) xterm -class SUSPEND -fg black -bg green -e "apm -z ; read DUMMY" was configured. As you can see, this has been in ye olden times of APM. :-) To repeat: In order to make this work, the user has to be a member of the "operator" group (for calling /sbin/shutdown) and the "wheel" group" (for calling /usr/sbin/apm and also /usr/sbin/zzz); the 2nd requirement could be omitted when those two binaries were chown'd to root:operator. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[80.229.5.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j9sm14795274wjz.13.2014.01.22.05.13.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 05:13:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52DFC410.60001@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:13:52 +0000 From: James Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4.10, GUI Reboot/Suspend References: <52DFBD8F.9070005@gmail.com> <20140122135704.abd0fd22.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140122135704.abd0fd22.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:13:57 -0000 On 01/22/14 12:57, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:46:07 +0000, James Griffin wrote: >> I've read a number of older posts found on the internet about using the >> xfce4 menus to reboot and shutdown the system. [...] Can someone >> using xfce4 on FreeBSD 10 explain how to do this, it shouldn't be so >> difficult (should it?). > I've been using XFCE 3 in the past and got those things working, > even though probably different from what today's layered, inter- > connected and library-driven concepts suggest. Here's my solution, > maybe you can adapt it to your needs: > > THe user who should be allowed to perform shutdown and suspend > has been placed in the "operator" and "wheel" group. The menu > entries for the actions have been created to perform the required > actions. For example > > xterm -class SHUTDOWN -fg black -bg red -e "shutdown -p now ; read DUMMY" > > was associated with the "Shutdown system" menu item, and for > suspend, I think (because I can't check this at the moment) > > xterm -class SUSPEND -fg black -bg green -e "apm -z ; read DUMMY" > > was configured. As you can see, this has been in ye olden times > of APM. :-) > > To repeat: In order to make this work, the user has to be a > member of the "operator" group (for calling /sbin/shutdown) > and the "wheel" group" (for calling /usr/sbin/apm and also > /usr/sbin/zzz); the 2nd requirement could be omitted when > those two binaries were chown'd to root:operator. > > Ok, thanks for the information. I always add my user to operator and wheel groups anyway, i'll work it out I guess. I just started using xfce4 -- I've always used fvwm2 but just wanted something that doesn't require so much fiddling with configuration files. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 13:23:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15529735 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-x22e.google.com (mail-pb0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE0791838 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id um1so381061pbc.33 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 05:23:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=S4ss78DDEtO0BDMoL8fJP1P63D/TrYeMFJQu5eI7bLk=; b=f3oQlFewD/f5G16PjXeQ3ueQKlCNI3usRInUcyVN6RBAI8mFOoL839wdHdfOfld12+ 1p06ZcL0ZJIS19xzNsm8CrfBdLYYBrIDgWrYBBmfX9XjmL06yjQO3DiklnL+ffI6x5Kq cMv2wGPomRZUyPo/Msx0Qe3uomNGeSC9utolqbo2PjNSx19l0z1RUxCHBln6shlKR34T qeL/D2ngeC4hKsUCLyM7gDFUMSJq7oF7qHFa2vR79ngovRD4Kf4fl33bj0UPJUDsS2AN GPA2MU78ju5o2a7UBKDuGKWkJS2y2pCGtZwenrvV7lcd7rE30JqmN3NZzzBYsQLUHMUD BkCg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.182.199 with SMTP id eg7mr1473004pac.135.1390396988711; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 05:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.212.162 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 05:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.212.162 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 05:23:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201401220735230348.009E6644@smtp.24cl.home> References: <201401220735230348.009E6644@smtp.24cl.home> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:23:08 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Am I getting too old From: iamatt To: "Mike." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:23:10 -0000 Agree. I'm glad I'm not the only one who fumbled around with this. Been running FreeBSD servers in some capacity since 3.X days and had some issues with my normal 4.2 upgrade and disk manipulation mentality. Now I have to reconfigure all of my jails to the "new" way... Guess , for me, its getting a lot of cool features in the OS that I do not need but glad they are available! Mb On Jan 22, 2014 6:35 AM, "Mike." wrote: > On 1/22/2014 at 4:18 PM Olivier Nicole wrote: > > |Hi, > | > |in the old times (FreeBSD 8) it took me 5 minutes to partition > a disk > |for a test machine: create a couple of MS DOS partitions, > install the > |MBR, create FreeBSD partitions, done. It used to be working > easily, > |efficiently and reliably. > | > |Now it had been one day since I tried to reproduce that with > FreeBSD > |9, not to avail: I always end up with messaged saying things > like > |invalid partition, or stuff like that. > | > |What was the rational behind the decision of breaking something > that > |used to work fine (that had been working fine for over 10 > years) and > |replace it with something that is ugly, unfriendly (you have to > give > |some types to the partitions, but nowhere is it written what > type is > |allowed or not) and that is not working? > | > |Oh maybe if I choose to go all by default it will work, but I > don't > |want the default, I want to be allowed to make my own choices > easily. > | > |Best regards > | > |Olivier > ============= > > I had sentiments similar to yours a couple of months ago, except > I had been using FreeBSD since around version 4. > > Except for a (imo, stupid) design decision that allows metadata > conflict between gpart and gmirror in some instances, I learned > to like using the gtools suite. > > I did take the time to install FreeBSD on a spare computer, and > use and learn the new way of doing things. I found that step to > be important because examples for the gsuite are not as common > as examples for the older way of doing things. > > I also found out that the disk you are working on must be clean > of any old metadata that may be lurking on it. That was a big > source of frustration for me until I discovered that it was the > old metadata that was fighting me. I eventually wrote a script > that wipes the first few and the last few sectors of a disk > drive, as I found that gpart was not always able to clear all > metadata. Why, I do not know. imo, that should be a gpart > subcommand - unequivocally and assuredly wipe all metadata. > ("gpart destroy -F" does not seem to always work). > > In summary, I now prefer gpart and the gsuite of tools, but they > are still rough around the edges in the documentation, ease of > use and examples areas. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 14:33:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC0C2895 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22d.google.com (mail-pa0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1D801E95 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id lf10so448381pab.32 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 06:33:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RX9dmMhW6m+8TbyaItGxkzy5WFZUmY2UR7rmQtR2ME0=; b=s5KWJjgonYKIzz5l+UdVE+6wso51hR4OBwhu0er3Wea/JVh2lto9MfJHJpCR6c+UwW voyCo7dZ6cHuQ0eIkAezgbkADrqTAKwG3sbtfCp+L3d30wgGNQV7h2KP/gYX4IZF2jow DcgMH6qHm1d2Rnm/bTPjVv9a/3rOtdACOALs6MV8aSHUIf5fDn/tQruz8ZxujSjYNKrM lElChPscVxDdZkmuHtC6dP91a2DA/QHbChF2+kZyKc4aUJVRQ64lZiqj5pdrDXxGY3oD LeJmh5GBz6he6BrdI52GvIGkPg9HatPfz4tTvlQIrY+8wyuoem09mBMjFWPb26iyeS46 QQJg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.139.100 with SMTP id qx4mr1843372pab.141.1390401189413; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 06:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.92.71 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 06:33:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:33:09 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Am I getting too old From: Adam Vande More To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:33:10 -0000 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:18 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > in the old times (FreeBSD 8) it took me 5 minutes to partition a disk > for a test machine: create a couple of MS DOS partitions, install the > MBR, create FreeBSD partitions, done. It used to be working easily, > efficiently and reliably. > > Now it had been one day since I tried to reproduce that with FreeBSD > 9, not to avail: I always end up with messaged saying things like > invalid partition, or stuff like that. > > What was the rational behind the decision of breaking something that > used to work fine (that had been working fine for over 10 years) and > replace it with something that is ugly, unfriendly (you have to give > some types to the partitions, but nowhere is it written what type is > allowed or not) and that is not working? > > Oh maybe if I choose to go all by default it will work, but I don't > want the default, I want to be allowed to make my own choices easily. > > Best regards > > Olivier >From a FreeBSD admin since the 2.2.x era, I find GPT much easier to work with. I guess this is a preference thing. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 14:36:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51767B68 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 038AE1EDF for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0MEamgR066891; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:36:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0MEam7X066888; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:36:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:36:48 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: eras mus Subject: Re: restoresymtable after dump and restore In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:36:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:36:57 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jan 2014, eras mus wrote: > Dear list, > > Thank you for the help. > My new hard disk is working fine after the dump and restore > operation.And able to boot with new disk. > But in my /home folder i have a restoresymtable of size 33968468 > and that partition is 101% full. > > Does this file(restoresymtable) has any significance? > Could i remove it by rm -rf ? > Will removing of the file cause any harm? Removing it is fine, see: man restore | less -p restoresymtable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 15:47:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 968CC1DF for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 487A61599 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0MFl9jY067479; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:47:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0MFl9GX067476; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:47:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:47:09 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: Am I getting too old In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:47:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:47:25 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jan 2014, Olivier Nicole wrote: > in the old times (FreeBSD 8) it took me 5 minutes to partition a disk > for a test machine: create a couple of MS DOS partitions, install the > MBR, create FreeBSD partitions, done. It used to be working easily, > efficiently and reliably. > > Now it had been one day since I tried to reproduce that with FreeBSD > 9, not to avail: I always end up with messaged saying things like > invalid partition, or stuff like that. > > What was the rational behind the decision of breaking something that > used to work fine (that had been working fine for over 10 years) and > replace it with something that is ugly, unfriendly (you have to give > some types to the partitions, but nowhere is it written what type is > allowed or not) and that is not working? > > Oh maybe if I choose to go all by default it will work, but I don't > want the default, I want to be allowed to make my own choices easily. Is this about sysinstall versus bsdinstall? Or fdisk/bsdlabel versus gpart? sysinstall was fine for me, except when it unpredictably overwrote the MBR even after being told not to. sade was, well, the same thing. For disk partitioning, I find gpart much easier to use than sysinstall, sade, fdisk (FreeBSD, Linux, or MS-DOS), bsdlabel, or the partition editor in bsdinstall. Here are my notes on using gpart to set up GPT or MBR/BSDLabel: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html There is a separate version for SSDs which has all the steps on a quick summary which is also applicable to hard drives: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ssd.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 15:51:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27A01387 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B58B7162A for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0MFprKu067521; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:51:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0MFprfb067518; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:51:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:51:53 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: James Griffin Subject: Re: xfce4.10, GUI Reboot/Suspend In-Reply-To: <52DFBD8F.9070005@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <52DFBD8F.9070005@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:51:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:51:55 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jan 2014, James Griffin wrote: > Hi > > I've read a number of older posts found on the internet about using the xfce4 > menus to reboot and shutdown the system. Amounts to using options in xinitrc > and a '.pkla' file in /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority. I don't know of any required changes to xinitrc or .xinitrc. Create the file org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla in /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/ with these contents: [Restart] Identity=unix-group:operator Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes [Shutdown] Identity=unix-group:operator Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes To enable the logout dialog, right-click logout icon on panel, Properties, First Button: Log Out Dialog. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 17:07:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E12C9251 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 761FC1D8D for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hi8so838757wib.8 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:07:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xO/g4aeTJcjKxcplUeUxLgRwt4PxeHB/lEtJxd5nhhw=; b=jS569ziQjnH3I/2kAHOsmgCky5kiHPP2DCXzK+KaFT1alCKv2QkhpFsQ+1bIdhztxh 8bbDQIdAmxf2h3iSZFiQBMuETHY2psSNHfnjLjSV3vDWKJQ5rNHa+UQQDfVGbD1p53q0 GYKJoPcK4A9465dslkna4QSuKgmZ/AF5kUbUdmDqMyuCmbCTk9Z5nuYlElY9cft9TXAh wqASrvtdx+JueMhd+Xq2r3DeOm9X9nU3VzDSOIJVy0Psto2xF0QQt0r8MQWBI1UMW9mF r0mr9jGq3GVNhd03xShDacjZl95LfKPPxkwsDNUGuEu72AkSE1CA9kWClL0I72stFuE4 wQHg== X-Received: by 10.180.38.11 with SMTP id c11mr20629146wik.60.1390410453893; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net. [80.229.5.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ff9sm20462448wib.11.2014.01.22.09.07.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:07:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52DFFAD3.4060404@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:07:31 +0000 From: James Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4.10, GUI Reboot/Suspend References: <52DFBD8F.9070005@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:07:36 -0000 On 22/01/2014 15:51, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014, James Griffin wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I've read a number of older posts found on the internet about using >> the xfce4 menus to reboot and shutdown the system. Amounts to using >> options in xinitrc and a '.pkla' file in >> /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority. > > I don't know of any required changes to xinitrc or .xinitrc. Create > the file org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla in > /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/ with these contents: > > [Restart] > Identity=unix-group:operator > Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart > ResultAny=yes > ResultInactive=yes > ResultActive=yes > > [Shutdown] > Identity=unix-group:operator > Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop > ResultAny=yes > ResultInactive=yes > ResultActive=yes > > To enable the logout dialog, right-click logout icon on panel, > Properties, First Button: Log Out Dialog. Thanks, it's working now. Another issue, the last 2 emails i've sent to this mailing list i've had replies from spam address with photos attached of women with their tits out - what is going on? is anyone else getting this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 17:47:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4403C7 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75DC410DA for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25B743CF90; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:47:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0MHl4dn018025; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:47:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:47:04 +0100 From: Polytropon To: James Griffin Subject: Re: xfce4.10, GUI Reboot/Suspend Message-Id: <20140122184704.af2806fc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52DFFAD3.4060404@gmail.com> References: <52DFBD8F.9070005@gmail.com> <52DFFAD3.4060404@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:47:31 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:07:31 +0000, James Griffin wrote: > Another issue, the last 2 emails i've sent to this mailing list i've had > replies from spam address with photos attached of women with their tits > out - what is going on? is anyone else getting this? Relatively new thing, annoying, deleted. At least it doesn't come in masses. I've also gotten some of these, ignoed. Comes through twitmails.com, maybe hijacked MX or open relay... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 18:27:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CF8C318 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x22f.google.com (mail-qa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF3F714CF for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id j5so893314qaq.20 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:27:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=IaKYiNAI4BYyzBY8UKKx0u0Uo6kZWAqRTrgx1pcDIK4=; b=ab5p5k9+ylV3udBuihU/++5N2E7Q9zbZGywHeXH4zXAoGHSHXb0I/TW94n5VeNhFTq Zld1aRXUcRLGrc59OxfddQG1lyPOEL1+l83F417kk3K51Cskgs0hhSZ2oW7N9gSfE3Jg mB9QNHkoTRd2/Jfzs6rDrZ+KwVojfFIQGXzKFDcucrsmE0IsUR65w/Mtt7zMLruaJncr bISVvA/by7QF1/8l9syWIGAWptfKw4rQwk22LJH/mK+ze592Nx4Av9FRuRasVA90kosq 0jA597be/RQnQQ2tsTGQ144LFzWBDP7JtZWwHSkG8SE5Wd+HUL7QJGc8eRoCMNvTAmEO CnGg== X-Received: by 10.140.92.65 with SMTP id a59mr4660700qge.34.1390415250037; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lumiwa.farms.net ([71.241.213.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j7sm15121323qas.13.2014.01.22.10.27.28 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:27:29 -0800 (PST) From: Ajtim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: gimp-gmic-plugin Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:27:27 -0500 Message-ID: <1663662.ZdOD2qSziF@lumiwa.farms.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.11.4 (FreeBSD/10.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.11.4; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:27:31 -0000 Hi! I use GIMP and gimp-gmic-plugin on FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE (amd64). Gimp-gmic-plugin compile without problem with clang but so many plugins crashed. Is it related to clang, please? I had the same version on GIMP for OS X and there works without problems. Thank you. -- Mitja ------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 19:47:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 079C4C0F for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 19:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x.it.okstate.edu (x.it.okstate.edu [139.78.2.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2D221CB6 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 19:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x.it.okstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x.it.okstate.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0MJWAtk073598 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:32:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201401221932.s0MJWAtk073598@x.it.okstate.edu> From: Martin McCormick cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unusual Exit Behavior MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <73596.1390419130.1@x.it.okstate.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:32:10 -0600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 19:47:06 -0000 The strangest thing just happened on a FreeBSD9.1 system. I had used ssh to access this system in command-line mode from a Linux platform running screen so it is possible that the behavior came from either the Linux box or the FreeBSD system but here is what happened. I was on the FreeBSD system in bash, testing a perl script I was writing and I called calc to tell me the answer to a simple subtraction problem. It gave me the answer but then there was no shell prompt. Thinking this was odd, I hit Return a couple of times with nothing so I typed Control-C and got a message stating something like "abort level 1." Each Control-C I typed incremented the abort level until at about 3 or 4, I did get the shell prompt back. Every time I ran calc, I got that behavior. I could short-circuit the odd exit by typing Control-D, but calc wouldn't just end like it always does if you type something like calc 86400-3600 I finally caused screen on the Linux box to exit, killing all the open sessions and when I restarted screen again and re-connected to the same FreeBSD box, everything was totally back to normal. I am pretty sure I set something that thankfully unset after the logout, but what could it have been? I don't really think this had anything to do with calc but at this stage, I would believe just about anything. I have been using unix for about 22 years and I am not sure I have ever seen this before. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 20:25:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABDF36A5 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x234.google.com (mail-ie0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CC531FB9 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id at1so42958iec.39 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:25:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=U7bIp3xci9bPexqM2RE0g0YrkCgZifTFA1kJUE7cjms=; b=Nc7DyHKKqX0X1BFoWihGEkUL4lSFNhpuLMd/JWrXi1nAzj+OMyeriuEtN1amWjGyvl fWLyTpMwTN65Xm/r0eT6HExUGUe6Gx4B3ExD5LyocAYVVgxSyV5MMlIDtVHQlmI3FU8o 6ACmouSXqTKc+wb42T32/oVmFN3nPf5qgiPnlPZhmefLNawTA+D1MPy3mhLKiaBxbEDE PVv2GFwCyzSip7PZg2vukakTz1i1ZwrRnhrJdssbGrZu+Z+y+QCvDGEi96MY2PZSrzze LPU1OlyiuRC6mVcMhgq8Nhun8iOyPEfugW/k2UfM60oYl3gNrNhlNlPyi7eglf0zWkLI oaHw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.62.102 with SMTP id x6mr25097528igr.35.1390422348887; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:25:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.130.134 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:25:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:25:48 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: ZFS: pool vs FS From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:25:49 -0000 Please identify any incorrect statements: 1. Filesystems, not pools, can be mounted 2. "zpool create foo /dev/bar" makes new pool called foo 3. (2) does not create a file system 4. After (2), /foo is mounted and ready for writing 5. (4) violates (1) Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 20:51:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DAED2C4 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BE2B1260 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:51:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [172.17.17.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0MKmSCT032878 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:48:28 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id s0MKmSKh033719 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:48:28 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s0MKmSPw033718; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:48:28 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:48:28 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Chris Stankevitz Subject: Re: ZFS: pool vs FS Message-ID: <20140122204828.GA6033@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (email2.allantgroup.com [172.17.19.78]); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:48:28 -0600 (CST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on email2.allantgroup.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:51:07 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 22), Chris Stankevitz said: > Please identify any incorrect statements: > > 1. Filesystems, not pools, can be mounted > > 2. "zpool create foo /dev/bar" makes new pool called foo > > 3. (2) does not create a file system "zpool create" does create a filesystem. The manpage doesn't say so explicitly, but does document the -O flag, which only makes sense if a filessytem is created to apply the properties to: -O file-system-property=value [-O file-system-property=value] ... Sets the given file system properties in the root file system of the pool. See zfs(8) Properties for a list of valid prop- erties that can be set. > 4. After (2), /foo is mounted and ready for writing > > 5. (4) violates (1) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 21:20:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B09CFF02 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 131CF14AD for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (host86-163-34-80.range86-163.btcentralplus.com [86.163.34.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0MLKdxh034179 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:20:40 GMT (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52E0362B.8090800@fjl.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:20:43 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting NTFS on 10.0-RELEASE References: <52DEC1F2.1040008@fjl.co.uk> <20140122125312.34ff36f4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <20140122125312.34ff36f4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:20:49 -0000 On 22/01/2014 11:53, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:52:34 +0000 Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> I new I was in for trouble when mount_ntfs wasn't found... >> >> Okay, I need to mount an NTFS volume on FreeBSD 10.0 (on ZFS if it >> matters). Unfortunately there doesn't look to be an NTFS module any >> more. 'sfunny, as I thought putting FUSE in the base system was supposed >> to interface to anything. It probably does, but I just don't know how >> and I'm in a hurry. Reading the obvious manual pages isn't any help, so >> I need a non-obvious one, no doubt. As this has whole FUSE business has >> been in flux, all the pages I Google are out-of-date. >> >> I might suggest that when commands like mount_ntfs are removed for the >> base that they be replaced by a script to print out some help. > Try the sysutils/fusefs-ntfs port. > _______________________________________________ > Thanks! That's just what I needed - I tried looking for a port and couldn't find it. I just compiled it, but it said... ================================================================ *** Error code 70 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs ================================================================ I'd tried using sysutils/ntfsprogs earlier (amongst a LOT of other things) and it looks like they're not friends. I *did* try to find the ntfs-3g port - should have guessed it was actually called fusefs-ntfs. For anyone else looking for the solution, DON'T install sysutils/ntfsprogs (or if you do, "make deinstall"), and do build sysutils/fusefs-ntfs. Then don't kid yourself that mount_ntfs is going to work :-) What does work is: Add 'fusefs_enable="YES"' to /etc/rc.conf Add 'fuse_load=YES' to /boot/loader.conf Reboot and then mount your USB NTFS volume thus: ntfs-3g /dev/da0s1 /mnt Obviously altering da0s1 to suit. I'm not 100% sure that the lines in rc.conf and loader.conf are necessary but the machine's busy and I can't reboot it to find out. I shall document this at some point, when I've figured out how to get it to work the old way - i.e. mount_ntfs - but I'm posting this here in case anyone else has having the same trouble. Incidentally, mount -t ntfs-3g... doesn't do it. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 22:01:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09C2EF85 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x234.google.com (mail-ie0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDD29187D for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id at1so204355iec.11 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:01:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=SaePDGmP9SVq5ayRvatxuLtTWp4XbdM6TGWO2y51850=; b=NPccKbel5TZtDyHlfK5SfToBSzmhGRsXjsuzLSQV9fByhVEwK5kuvJVi73ZDryF494 BPmyuhBhC1kLHdNY7VvasAINRKcrHZVFtgMrZ/P/eaf2yF3wWgvwJoTZ3H7w1SnMPgah BhphJSpdu5pfBK4HyvVwNa9+Wlx+bxcmkksgX1ZpTRomE2qB9ki8OwaNBkJRwHUvzOj5 PRdYZ/yFznV5FaVaaDE5igU7QJjrdM/XPCt8vYyIk2rS8yw33OKrL6hYzC4uOrRnKaZn ZSTqlIqbkhUz4okfa0tJZbJ3XRnfgFy6SxdTcKAoaR4N4OzqTkX2k6RF6epqNNlnBxBz 39xg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.102.99 with SMTP id fn3mr25741867igb.5.1390428100287; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:01:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.130.134 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:01:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140122204828.GA6033@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20140122204828.GA6033@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:01:40 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS: pool vs FS From: Chris Stankevitz To: Dan Nelson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:01:41 -0000 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > "zpool create" does create a filesystem Dan, Thank you. I suspected this was the case (the FreeBSD handbook certainly implies this). Now that we have that out of the way I can ask my real question: Can you identify the concept I am missing as evidenced by this failure: === # truncate -s 100m disk1 # truncate -s 100m disk2 # zpool create pool1 /root/disk1 # zpool create pool2 /root/disk2 So far so good... however, the next lines concern me. Some people seem to say "Wait, /pool1 is not a good filesystem to start using you need to uze 'zfs create' first". However your comment leads me to believe that /pool1 is okay to start using right away. # echo asdf > /pool1/file.txt # zfs snapshot pool1@123 Let's try to replicate: # zfs send pool1@123 | zfs recv pool2 cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination 'pool2' exists must specify -F to overwrite it Okay we have a problem. This is the heart of my misunderstanding. But I'll try to power through: # zfs send pool1@123 | zfs recv -F pool2 # zfs list -t snapshot NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT pool1@123 18.5K - 31.5K - pool1@124 0 - 31.5K - pool2@123 0 - 31.5K - So far so good. And let's try another replication: # echo qwer > /pool1/file.txt # zfs snapshot pool1@124 # zfs send pool1@124 | zfs recv pool2 cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination 'pool2' exists must specify -F to overwrite it # zfs send pool1@124 | zfs recv -F pool2 cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination has snapshots (eg. pool2@123) must destroy them to overwrite it # echo Okay I do not understand what is happening. Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 22 22:18:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58CE9955; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpin1.utoledo.edu (smtpin1.utoledo.edu [131.183.2.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7771198D; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:18:01 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjUBALRC4FKDtwIWl2dsb2JhbABbhBqCfrlzFg4BAQEBAQgWBzyCTxUbOyACBSECEQJMAQwIAQGIAQWnapcohH8XgSmQSYFJBIlHlSKPHIIM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,702,1384318800"; d="scan'208";a="308110849" Received: from dlpint00.utoledo.edu ([131.183.2.22]) by smtpin1.utoledo.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 22 Jan 2014 17:15:29 -0500 Received: from MSGAPP12.utad.utoledo.edu (msgapp12.utad.utoledo.edu [131.183.3.8]) by dlpint00.utoledo.edu (RSA Interceptor); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:15:19 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.79] (76.238.196.183) by Email.Utoledo.Edu (131.183.3.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.169.1; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:15:19 -0500 Message-ID: <52E042F5.60008@UToledo.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:15:17 -0500 From: Robert Burmeister User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Subject: Suggest two additions to /usr/src/UPDATING for FreeBSD 10 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [76.238.196.183] X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-RSA-Action: allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:18:02 -0000 Suggest two additions to /usr/src/UPDATING for FreeBSD 10: 1. Note that PKGNG is required in FreeBSD 10, and that functionality of previous port management tools may have change or have been removed. Details of the changed behavior of specific port management tools, when used in conjunction with pkgng, should be noted in /usr/ports/UPDATING. 2. Note that the functionality of /converters/libiconv has been moved into the base system in FreeBSD 10, and that /converters/libiconv should be deinstalled before recompiling all ports after an OS upgrade. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 02:29:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92136AF1 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A251F75 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp121-45-52-62.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([121.45.52.62]) by ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2014 12:58:47 +1030 Message-ID: <52E07E5D.4080900@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:58:45 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Stankevitz , Dan Nelson Subject: Re: ZFS: pool vs FS References: <20140122204828.GA6033@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:29:28 -0000 On 23/01/2014 08:31, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: >> "zpool create" does create a filesystem > > Dan, > > Thank you. I suspected this was the case (the FreeBSD handbook > certainly implies this). Now that we have that out of the way I can > ask my real question: > > Can you identify the concept I am missing as evidenced by this failure: > > === > > # truncate -s 100m disk1 > # truncate -s 100m disk2 > # zpool create pool1 /root/disk1 > # zpool create pool2 /root/disk2 > > So far so good... however, the next lines concern me. Some people > seem to say "Wait, /pool1 is not a good filesystem to start using you > need to uze 'zfs create' first". However your comment leads me to > believe that /pool1 is okay to start using right away. > > # echo asdf > /pool1/file.txt > # zfs snapshot pool1@123 > > Let's try to replicate: > > # zfs send pool1@123 | zfs recv pool2 > cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination 'pool2' exists > must specify -F to overwrite it > > Okay we have a problem. This is the heart of my misunderstanding. > But I'll try to power through: > > # zfs send pool1@123 | zfs recv -F pool2 > # zfs list -t snapshot > NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT > pool1@123 18.5K - 31.5K - > pool1@124 0 - 31.5K - > pool2@123 0 - 31.5K - > > So far so good. And let's try another replication: > > # echo qwer > /pool1/file.txt > # zfs snapshot pool1@124 > # zfs send pool1@124 | zfs recv pool2 > cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination 'pool2' exists > must specify -F to overwrite it > # zfs send pool1@124 | zfs recv -F pool2 > cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination has snapshots (eg. pool2@123) > must destroy them to overwrite it The filesystem specified as the destination for recv must not exist therefore the need to -F the destination. The next snapshots should then be incremental or sent to a different filesystem. So we end up with the following steps - # zfs snapshot pool1@123 # zfs send pool1@123 | zfs recv pool2/pool1snaps # zfs snapshot pool1@124 # zfs send -i 123 pool1@124 | zfs recv pool2/pool1snaps this sends snapshot 124 as an incremental change from 123 # zfs snapshot pool1@125 # zfs send -i 124 pool1@125 | zfs recv pool2/pool1snaps this sends snapshot 125 as an incremental change from 124 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 04:10:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4905CA for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 04:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from maul.immure.com (immure.com [107.218.164.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74819185E for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 04:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.132.9] (helo=rancor.immure.com) by maul.immure.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1W6BcT-000PQz-Ag for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:10:24 -0600 Received: from rancor.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rancor.immure.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0N4ALCn053496 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:10:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by rancor.immure.com (8.14.7/8.14.6/Submit) id s0N4ALpT053495 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:10:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:10:21 -0600 From: Bob Willcox To: questions list Message-ID: <20140123041021.GA50784@rancor.immure.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 10.1.132.9 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bob@immure.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on maul.immure.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: mksh forgets the 'set -o vi' setting X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on maul.immure.com) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 04:10:33 -0000 With release 10.0 I've had to switch from using pdksh to mksh as my shell and have noticed that mksh doesn't remember the 'set -o vi' setting when forking and execing a new mksh process. The other shells I've used (pdksh, ksh93, & bash) have always retained the vi setting but for some reason mksh doesn't. Is there some way to get mksh to behave as the others? Thanks, Bob -- Bob Willcox | Philosophy, n.: bob@immure.com | Unintelligible answers to insoluble problems. Austin, TX | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 07:36:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 328DFB6E for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E13111B76 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3B35E255 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:36:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.966 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.966 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id qSew9rl-pxBP for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:36:26 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.121] (c224-156-70-80.bjare.net [80.70.156.224]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3745E472 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:36:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:36:38 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:36:35 -0000 I keep getting replies from half naked woman when I write to the list. Someone else wrote about this yesterday. Can it be stopped in any way? I'm marking it as spam but it would be nice not to receive it at all. Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 07:43:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64CB9E5A for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x236.google.com (mail-we0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3A051D58 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id w62so817821wes.13 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 23:43:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hlJDjjngI+hD2Ef7cmw64gwcNGiG73tPt2BarXtdh4o=; b=gakZ5ACnOK6uN6FocE2lzkF2nsqgx/TjdQEJeVwD8u0XRq9sQNBVhZ7kvVbuYWxn0F s6sPOilqvE3ewtpyi7Y6vDc1URJ0w+gpq/+JwlswyiFYrHPGvz+Eorws2bYFmg93/fnC mGYrfT2tOd0AxmRkfi9xGXTTR+MbCfumP3LGu7VkLntb9+1JvR+7c3hGM3vdC2YvWpHo iUQyk6TYAeZEvKZFiBjnB3++qNvj8IRPI98AfpiDvKVdxiIUJBs4/5t50btrW+UWVtRR 7HpbiQyovnoH57GSEEk0yuVmxzODPhPmNGMNJ6fcf/d1BFCRcOXg6IWcQY/RAxpJYF+R 9kqQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.91.17 with SMTP id ca17mr23348912wib.41.1390463007311; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 23:43:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.227.154.201 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 23:43:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:43:27 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Be0-AJzgsZUhn8ysLbsG4hCDz7w Message-ID: Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list From: Olivier Nicole To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:43:29 -0000 Leslie, > I keep getting replies from half naked woman when I write to the list. > > Someone else wrote about this yesterday. Can it be stopped in any way? Is that that you'd prefer her to be fully naked? :)) I recon that spam on the list is a pain. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 07:54:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53E723DA for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D92701E6F for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0N7rnRi046043 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:53:50 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s0N7rnRi046043 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s0N7rnRi046043; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:53:38 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aKk8TOctkTTgN23XKkQCC2Nw7hGFmG0Bd" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DCC_CHECK autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:54:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --aKk8TOctkTTgN23XKkQCC2Nw7hGFmG0Bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/01/2014 07:36, Leslie Jensen wrote: >=20 > I keep getting replies from half naked woman when I write to the list. >=20 > Someone else wrote about this yesterday. Can it be stopped in any way? >=20 > I'm marking it as spam but it would be nice not to receive it at all. I've raised this problem with postmaster@freebsd.org, and they are enthusiastic about tracking down how the freebsd-questions@... traffic is being harvested and stopping this whole thing. Unfortunately the perpetrators of this seem to have been covering their tracks fairly effectively so far. If anyone does receive a spam message back from a posting to the list, I'd urge you to forward it -- including all of the message headers -- to postmaster@freebsd.org with a small note explaining the circumstances. Postmaster needs some substantive data in order to have any chance of stopping this. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --aKk8TOctkTTgN23XKkQCC2Nw7hGFmG0Bd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJS4MqNXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATzvIP/AgNgbubl9DfzuzlqzTaYGyv Cc8qQiQiKbdawppLft+ZrGuMxbatncI4MEDUJ6MPaAEene/uK/eoHh18O7VXc0aE zGDMoOhqnqJ2YxKd4JGi0BlVS2Mp3t745vkc0EpAEtvvkHSIvl33UB+qFzJMDhvx 71S+Ss11oI643nR8T1EVb6nO1xqGhkDxsloaNX0MFtlP02zdbyCeMmL7AZlII+pq 3bQFru4xj1DZDEqV79TnZALJJXACEk83MuKmLIWtlM3azR8/TdTZKXjBaLLO5kvx 6GD39K9l9gj9N5gxNqtgwTJu//DhJwOYfhErBQTXQ35h9KU7J0z1nqTw21tWQdF4 2E+xEIC3C5zV3Pt2uQSHNXfjBj+w+g7kqKr2VIRxgQaR7W/OE8midM+s3kdjzfYo vPb/BcdI07yrja3RRlVhPSreASQHcQKz8ra2nBaCA9HXV/5nfgOVB3MSqBYYNPZI B3nprZUAuMzCJiE11CgpHH4xvi5lf1+j8qHblvN8cLoa/EHTiINPkgxpqu7rLBb9 c26zFK340kblphBmR6GQscrXUEe0GzRzLz6p3rB3+ZX3ajM+6J2bPhdXOVO4Dmm/ V0Iz0Wff7BoDn3wWcwhgy4j4d4bfZUY5vYRk8zIKGLUCqhtBDeIy2XM95tnD52PF P6IbiUSftmCvanaLGywX =QgzQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aKk8TOctkTTgN23XKkQCC2Nw7hGFmG0Bd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 07:56:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CDF8596 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76B271EAE for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:56:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=kYi7pDOsiobQoD97RfTtzYJJTofWSR4SQWPLn6EJQmw=; b=RlWuKiyDdIJcCOCLZyBe8hYKwEcdWox2YNRgaJ2eInHTiFbJK8X9W0J8lxKlbohT8UYqVrSv/X0c9I5LQ4+8W+Zwi26cJAxeCKxJK98BEV/iKkpvcRUPfiZaumdTTA8IM89pZqM9DAD31bBIXXyjrrUD/iR14mXdLdtFpnIHPFI=; Received: from [114.123.79.154] (port=12991 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W6F9Z-0006IU-9v; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:56:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:56:37 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list Message-ID: <20140123155637.3f7ec69a@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:56:52 -0000 Hi, On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:36:38 +0100 Leslie Jensen wrote: > > I keep getting replies from half naked woman when I write to the list. > > Someone else wrote about this yesterday. Can it be stopped in any way? > > I'm marking it as spam but it would be nice not to receive it at all. > check the mail server sending out the spam. When I was once affected by the same kind of spam, I notified the provider and it stopped. It looks like they are harvesting here life. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 08:31:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ED99310 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x235.google.com (mail-qc0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E64A51220 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id e9so2028764qcy.26 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:31:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VbArE2Rkh1KixbbXfjFPy/9HSxRE7QOthSF1nZ9vA5s=; b=EbhPWIiJ8zuCi9/VgGUFcD7ZKBLwl5nynZMTD1/a97xh0NW0/3zkhQR2hKsdA9kzOt ilwUXwKKt2jdutCnvHmOYYgwFC+CFde5Va4CPLYHk7mwbnYOLkZtpT8Goayw3N3LM5ju MpW2H7zAshIiIt/HcDeIM+pbK486lpmFY/+sv9RDzMcgz0hyDdFEIDPHPTYz9Qho0zt3 UfYd2VhPnZLxNXwCBUzIa0oC9IKKhCzl7ix10DjVRo9qbXv+0FfSdSm9xNlW86Px8v6u YIIldolVZEzcCQqI0VC+/iXPu0Wve/9GJubDe2y2zU9vDy2563ytrKfVzg+NaDu3f3L0 R5eA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.80.8 with SMTP id r8mr9576364qak.88.1390465889046; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.120.193 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:31:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:31:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: network config problem From: Joar Jegleim To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:31:30 -0000 Hi list, I'm looking at 10.0-RELEASE, on this particular server I've got 4 nic's, one of them uses vlan tagging. When rebooting this box it doesn't setup the default route (?) . Does anybody see what I don't in this /etc/rc.conf setup (?) hostname="censored" keymap="norwegian.iso.kbd" # em0 in iscsi vlan ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.33.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 mtu 9000 media 1000baseTX mediaopt full-duplex" # em1 in iscsi vlan ifconfig_em1="inet 192.168.44.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 1000baseTX mediaopt full-duplex" # bce0 is plugged into 2 vlans ifconfig_bce0="up" # gotta be up, or else vlan won't work cloned_interfaces="vlan1 vlan2" ifconfig_vlan1="inet 192.168.66.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 1 vlandev bce0" ifconfig_vlan2="inet 192.168.77.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 2 vlandev bce0" static_routes="net1 net2" route_net1="-net 192.168.100.0/24 192.168.66.1" route_net2="-net 192.168.150.0/24 192.168.66.1" # bce0 is in vlan 3 and got defaultrouter ifconfig_bce1="inet 192.168.200.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" defaultrouter="192.168.200.1" sshd_enable="YES" # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable dumpdev="NO" munin_node_enable="YES" nrpe2_enable="YES" iscsid_enable="YES" iscsictl_enable="YES" iscsictl_flags="-Aa" zfs_enable="YES" exim_enable="YES" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" #nrpe_enable="YES" -- ---------------------- Joar Jegleim Homepage: http://cosmicb.no Linkedin: http://no.linkedin.com/in/joarjegleim fb: http://www.facebook.com/joar.jegleim AKA: CosmicB @Freenode ---------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 08:33:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 536B93DE for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com (mail-we0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD75D123B for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id t60so850956wes.9 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:33:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Lx9yGXPwbVJqisDLvowpNvr6XxHSgIQMvtFyTqdO9WM=; b=wTKopTpCEu6OUB8Iqi/fE6j3aCjsTVP+iSFC/cbQHcKLZyby10Rlofw1cG9rnsggWA ACirsVafB89DJPAWVN1AHEgpZtt9ZimeQQEXCf/8NtuyDaV9fhSmGWvRgpNlJ2TxMrSc H1AGEm6JqRSBgfAeKgU0OACBmP+1jUK8sH0jwW4U3U5WLuXT756eQNL1xo4I/DUvDF0l 2IsKQKkOpoYJQl1qBm47RcIkSJpfPCqnMK0OL+/UfnxFvntArtSncTe7XAZ/qAHkjnrf t4QeyUzGYEGfWG4pKypaUAQHBrBrmfq+mqN7dOjoPLUsPMeZdg0qV92Y7Vqo/9LJFkdi 13IQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.109.68 with SMTP id hq4mr5715964wjb.12.1390465981285; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.154.201 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:33:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20140121172736.A25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20140121193035.K25136@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:33:01 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux shared installation From: Olivier Nicole To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Polytropon , Ian Smith , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:33:03 -0000 Hi, I tried FreeBSD 8.4 and Ubuntu 12.0.4. They can share the swap partiction without needing any trick on Ubuntu part. Bests, Olivier On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Ian, > >> The main issue there is that from FreeBSD you'd be working with a (say) >> ext2/3 partition as /home, when you really have to be sure that FreeBSD >> handles R/W flawlessly with it rather than with UFS2+SU(+J), especially >> regarding crash recovery. Perhaps with FUSE that might be solid enough, >> but personally I tend to trust native formats and tools better, whether >> from the FreeBSD or Linux side. > > I think that Linux (Ubuntu) supports UFS. As I have no machine with > oth system, I never pushed further, but I think I remember seeing an > option to format a partition using UFS in Ubuntu install. > > Let me give it a trty. > > Olivier > >> >> > > > Extend. #1 >> > > > log. dr. #1 Kali Linux 15 GB /dev/sda5 >> > > > log. dr. #2 Mageia Linux 15 GB /dev/sda6 >> > > >> > > From FreeBSD accessing my old OS/2 partitions I seem to recall that >> > > /dev/ada0s5 is the ext drive itself, and within would be ada0s6 and s7, >> > > though the above nomenclature would be right from Linux' POV. >> > >> > In Linux too (Ubuntu) the Extended #1 is partition #4 and being >> > splited into logical partition #5 and #6. Basically what you write >> > Ian, but you missed the #4: /dev/ada0s4 is the ext drive itself, and >> > within would be ada0s5 and s6... >> >> I'm still not sure about that from FreeBSD's perspective. Remembering >> back to '98-'99 when I salvaged years of OS/2 work, especially code, and >> those disks only had 3 primary partitions ('C:', OS/2 Boot Manager, then >> drives D: through I: or J: on the extended partition, but with no s4 I >> still had to start at s5, with s6 the first mountable partition (after >> having built the HPFS code which is still in the tree, at 9.1 anyway). >> >> However I may be misremembering (non-ECC memory :) so perhaps Polytropon >> could show us an 'ls /dev/ada0*' when it's done? >> >> cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 09:02:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3400B327 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDD7A14E9 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hi8so1515492wib.2 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 01:02:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/SZHRpBuh89ohrXKdjLPgmRD1K98GIPeAiyVKHmZt4M=; b=aURDr73Styh111plRpotd+3TR65u7vEfjKqMz38MgAH2hZKyD8z0oMe9OfT+XGX5ZW gN7GCyjEvmyuVP6bSSLRVZZZIWTWStaSxiKjX0TIWbS5bs0UECiUIhhd+6jUZUwgqyI5 0pjahc5Ki2pYDq50Cl6ZT5WeN3PYrR+UuSbiKNZNol6NGubam2GZeUF3Ay4AnqL/Cqo5 VGFobsLzwaEyIG8GNBgngOZ/QqYYakEa5lNkS+JdtTe64gAaVK6nCRa3tih4s39bh2If Kxi0q8wbY0lDOarg7ONIojGFIZenfD0xbIz5Gsoh9LMYL6t3EnRmqLcaqpFKmWY39Jvy VDVw== X-Received: by 10.194.86.200 with SMTP id r8mr5580104wjz.49.1390467744222; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 01:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.2.15] (LNantes-156-74-19-50.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr. [82.127.90.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ot9sm20725612wjc.0.2014.01.23.01.02.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 01:02:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52E0DA9E.7070402@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:02:22 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:02:26 -0000 On 23/01/2014 08:36, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > I keep getting replies from half naked woman when I write to the list. > > Someone else wrote about this yesterday. 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From: Ross To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:04:53 -0000 When I tried to install anything on a fresh FreeBSD 10 pkg failed. OK, I googled the topic. Main repository is half empty at the moment for some reason. I added another repo by creating /etc/pkg/release-0.conf: release-0: { url: "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/release/0", mirror_type: "srv", signature_type: "fingerprints", fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg", enabled: yes } So, now I have two repos: the main one and the release repo. Tried to pkg install kde After downloading the packages it failed because of conflicts. Apparently it mixed main repo packages with the release repo and died. OK, run this way: pkg install -r release-0 kde At last! Everything went well and now I have a KDE desktop. But what next? I want to run "pkg upgrade" some time later and have all the packages installed from the release repo to be updated to the latest version. At the moment, after "pkg upgrade" I get a list of packages to be upgraded and when I say "yes" pkg dies with errors like this (a lot of errors like this): pkg: WARNING: locally installed qt4-webkit-4.8.5 conflicts on /usr/local/share/qt4/mkspecs/modules/qt_webkit_version.pri with: - qt4-webkit-4.8.5_1 So how do I upgrade? Am I doing something wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 10:10:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA06A92C; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 096581AD1; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hr1so1568651wib.0 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:10:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TZXnn5zR7unaqC2qdnpq1YjGibXw9ghgF0pchLVfeL0=; b=bcohqPCDRlaX8nCE8gsffMJ66iGuqI3LJseTpBtbTwZeUpvGYVcKN2Sp7dJZ1uji4I 4RRl6/L9tLyO2rri3nPMYHulsRjZxyEEa9X+zrZlacrrSa7MAN8ofzWDTxrmWfYJVjsf PbPCPoZL0uvqw/JNyg3PlTukiKK7F2Wn6wFoR7ZhJwjLRTb9lmLAr/0HrocAfkQctejd U8ZsdT/PIjs59UwIx1zBMEcTOc4+TvRxdL/ehlnhQuwEmWWc4x2M893dsMegZ43uMkUc CIdRxcbhaFDWThIWZV4HBxhNkHAuKBcEBHzQ4aGWyv/i+L6xjPCNDj2wBYTD/aF7kW4C l+rA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.82.105 with SMTP id h9mr5928500wjy.52.1390471851291; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:10:51 -0800 (PST) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.227.154.201 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:10:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:10:51 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kN3nX_uoYfQHzTrORphvA2YY87E Message-ID: Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list From: Olivier Nicole To: Matthew Seaman , postmaster@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Leslie Jensen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:10:53 -0000 Hi, > I've raised this problem with postmaster@freebsd.org, and they are > enthusiastic about tracking down how the freebsd-questions@... traffic > is being harvested and stopping this whole thing. I would guess that the harvesting is done thought mailing list archive on some web server: it took almost 24 hours before I got my half naked woman, and it came only after I posted on a new thread (I did not receive anything for all the replies I have posted the last 48 hours). Maybe that can help. Best regards, Olivier Unfortunately the > perpetrators of this seem to have been covering their tracks fairly > effectively so far. > > If anyone does receive a spam message back from a posting to the list, > I'd urge you to forward it -- including all of the message headers -- to > postmaster@freebsd.org with a small note explaining the circumstances. > Postmaster needs some substantive data in order to have any chance of > stopping this. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 10:33:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA8C5355 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x231.google.com (mail-qc0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BDB21DEF for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id i8so2152268qcq.22 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:33:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Hqh3OnpvDFZk4xCOmWBS16rwpWEfdTeR2cEE/Fix8VY=; b=JwX2sBToQjAU0c5Kl8D9ZD5GLQayfZGkYGpq+56aw4rWVn7tODlVtV9XgC/H7YUDHv dO61AUu0yuEk70HjnLNONLdCI7W0P1rUSb8vlZQZhLie5rwGLmttEkInITlUUMbdVnK3 riyMj5HMj2HCb+k/vzL0jfKE69JHprr7BqXE4H4qt0/i7fP5sPRdMn5OAOLRpOwfFLIn qoFvZZ8XI2FfqUWVi2FAabxOb4mAprZ59AhvIxGBHOCzHCBJozLmUI7GXRoSedM7PwbF EP4dLIcRxeDAQSf+WNnTJtZGE6nGFsEDGhXv2/Ok7S+CZwtKDcSfalSItefAabaaygvE elWg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.92.54 with SMTP id a51mr9618457qge.111.1390473184644; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.120.193 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 02:33:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:33:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Fwd: network config problem From: Joar Jegleim To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:33:05 -0000 hmm, this might have been a bebcak. I had put # REQUIRE: mountcritlocal iscsictl in /etc/rc.d/zfs , trying to make zfs start after iscsi, since the zfs pool are delivered through iscsi ... Reverting that little hack made defautlrouter settings work from rc.conf again (?) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joar Jegleim Date: 23 January 2014 09:31 Subject: network config problem To: freebsd-questions Hi list, I'm looking at 10.0-RELEASE, on this particular server I've got 4 nic's, one of them uses vlan tagging. When rebooting this box it doesn't setup the default route (?) . Does anybody see what I don't in this /etc/rc.conf setup (?) hostname="censored" keymap="norwegian.iso.kbd" # em0 in iscsi vlan ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.33.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 mtu 9000 media 1000baseTX mediaopt full-duplex" # em1 in iscsi vlan ifconfig_em1="inet 192.168.44.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 1000baseTX mediaopt full-duplex" # bce0 is plugged into 2 vlans ifconfig_bce0="up" # gotta be up, or else vlan won't work cloned_interfaces="vlan1 vlan2" ifconfig_vlan1="inet 192.168.66.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 1 vlandev bce0" ifconfig_vlan2="inet 192.168.77.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 2 vlandev bce0" static_routes="net1 net2" route_net1="-net 192.168.100.0/24 192.168.66.1" route_net2="-net 192.168.150.0/24 192.168.66.1" # bce0 is in vlan 3 and got defaultrouter ifconfig_bce1="inet 192.168.200.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" defaultrouter="192.168.200.1" sshd_enable="YES" # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable dumpdev="NO" munin_node_enable="YES" nrpe2_enable="YES" iscsid_enable="YES" iscsictl_enable="YES" iscsictl_flags="-Aa" zfs_enable="YES" exim_enable="YES" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" #nrpe_enable="YES" -- ---------------------- Joar Jegleim Homepage: http://cosmicb.no Linkedin: http://no.linkedin.com/in/joarjegleim fb: http://www.facebook.com/joar.jegleim AKA: CosmicB @Freenode ---------------------- -- ---------------------- Joar Jegleim Homepage: http://cosmicb.no Linkedin: http://no.linkedin.com/in/joarjegleim fb: http://www.facebook.com/joar.jegleim AKA: CosmicB @Freenode ---------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 11:25:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 704AC23E for ; 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Linux i686; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:25:18 -0000 http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/malware-vendors-buy-chrome-extensions-to-send-adware-filled-updates/ jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 11:42:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DC126A2 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com (mail-pa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74C3013E4 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:42:15 -0000 If you have your running FreeBSD 10 and feeling a little adventurous (i.e. using brand new features in 10 and ports that are not even yet committed to the port tree officially) then you might want to create a VM (virtual machine) on which to run the browser on and then use xhost on the host machine and you use the DISPLAY variable on the instance to make sure any weird things that it might do are done to a toss away VM.... unless your a devote of -virtualization@ you're likely better off using a front-end such as petitecloud or vmrun.sh (the second is for experts though). For more details see the proposed Handbook revisions on virtualization at http://www.petitecloud.org/handbook.jsp... an other approach but a little complex to set up and manage is run it as a jail -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 12:42:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 946EF927 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307C01977 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:42:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al8GANsN4VJbs45y/2dsb2JhbABbgwy5e4MFgQ8XdIIlAQEBBDocIxALGAklDyoeBi6HbgHFWxeOTTMHhDgEmCKSGYMuOw Received: from 114.142-179-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([91.179.142.114]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2014 13:41:49 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0NCfmg1002430; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:41:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:41:47 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: Mounting NTFS on 10.0-RELEASE Message-ID: <20140123134147.4aa953f1@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <52E0362B.8090800@fjl.co.uk> References: <52DEC1F2.1040008@fjl.co.uk> <20140122125312.34ff36f4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <52E0362B.8090800@fjl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:42:07 -0000 On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:20:43 +0000 Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 22/01/2014 11:53, Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:52:34 +0000 Frank Leonhardt wrote: >>> I new I was in for trouble when mount_ntfs wasn't found... >>> >>> Okay, I need to mount an NTFS volume on FreeBSD 10.0 (on ZFS if it >>> matters). Unfortunately there doesn't look to be an NTFS module any >>> more. 'sfunny, as I thought putting FUSE in the base system was supposed >>> to interface to anything. It probably does, but I just don't know how >>> and I'm in a hurry. Reading the obvious manual pages isn't any help, so >>> I need a non-obvious one, no doubt. As this has whole FUSE business has >>> been in flux, all the pages I Google are out-of-date. >>> >>> I might suggest that when commands like mount_ntfs are removed for the >>> base that they be replaced by a script to print out some help. >> Try the sysutils/fusefs-ntfs port. > Thanks! That's just what I needed - I tried looking for a port and > couldn't find it. > > I just compiled it, but it said... > ================================================================ > *** Error code 70 > > Stop. > make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs > ================================================================ > > I'd tried using sysutils/ntfsprogs earlier (amongst a LOT of other > things) and it looks like they're not friends. I *did* try to find the > ntfs-3g port - should have guessed it was actually called fusefs-ntfs. > > For anyone else looking for the solution, DON'T install > sysutils/ntfsprogs (or if you do, "make deinstall"), and do build > sysutils/fusefs-ntfs. > > Then don't kid yourself that mount_ntfs is going to work :-) > > What does work is: > > Add 'fusefs_enable="YES"' to /etc/rc.conf > Add 'fuse_load=YES' to /boot/loader.conf > > Reboot and then mount your USB NTFS volume thus: > > ntfs-3g /dev/da0s1 /mnt > > Obviously altering da0s1 to suit. > > I'm not 100% sure that the lines in rc.conf and loader.conf are > necessary but the machine's busy and I can't reboot it to find out. I > shall document this at some point, when I've figured out how to get it > to work the old way - i.e. mount_ntfs - but I'm posting this here in > case anyone else has having the same trouble. Incidentally, mount -t > ntfs-3g... doesn't do it. There's mount_fusefs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 12:47:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2177ADD for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE5D19BB for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:47:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al8GAIYO4VJbs45y/2dsb2JhbABbgww4vEiBDxd0giUBAQEEOhwjEAsYCSUPKh4GiBwBxV8Xjj5CB4Q4BJgikhmDLjuBLg Received: from 114.142-179-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([91.179.142.114]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2014 13:47:46 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0NCljMU002463; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:47:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:47:44 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Ross Subject: Re: pkg: What am I doing wrong? Message-ID: <20140123134744.000f7246@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:47:53 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:04:52 +0200 Ross wrote: > When I tried to install anything on a fresh FreeBSD 10 pkg failed. OK, I > googled the topic. Main repository is half empty at the moment for some > reason. I added another repo by creating /etc/pkg/release-0.conf: > > release-0: { > url: "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/release/0", > mirror_type: "srv", > signature_type: "fingerprints", > fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg", > enabled: yes > } > > So, now I have two repos: the main one and the release repo. Tried to > > pkg install kde > > After downloading the packages it failed because of conflicts. Apparently > it mixed main repo packages with the release repo and died. OK, run this > way: > > pkg install -r release-0 kde > > At last! Everything went well and now I have a KDE desktop. But what next? > I want to run "pkg upgrade" some time later and have all the packages > installed from the release repo to be updated to the latest version. > > At the moment, after "pkg upgrade" I get a list of packages to be upgraded > and when I say "yes" pkg dies with errors like this (a lot of errors like > this): > > pkg: WARNING: locally installed qt4-webkit-4.8.5 conflicts on > /usr/local/share/qt4/mkspecs/modules/qt_webkit_version.pri with: > - qt4-webkit-4.8.5_1 > > So how do I upgrade? Am I doing something wrong? There was a problem with the package builds last week. Everything should be ok again now so you can remove the second repo. 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charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:29:38 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:24:06 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/malware-vendors-buy-chrome-extensions-to-send-adware-filled-updates/ As far as I know, this has already been removed. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57617467-93/google-discards-extensions-that-force-feed-users-ads-in-chrome/ But my tinfoil is glowing, urging me to reply with this one: Chrome Bugs Allow Sites to Listen to Your Private Conversations http://talater.com/chrome-is-listening/ STILL TOO LOUD?! ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 13:47:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86DF3199 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailrelay008.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay008.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AB61035 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:47:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al8GAOoc4VJbs45y/2dsb2JhbABbgww4vEmBDxd0giUBAQEEOhwjEAsYCSUPKh4GiBwBxWQXjj5CB4Q4BJgikhmDLjuBLg Received: from 114.142-179-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([91.179.142.114]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2014 14:47:23 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0NDlM0H002737; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:47:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:47:21 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Ross Subject: Re: pkg: What am I doing wrong? Message-ID: <20140123144721.1e1e2946@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <20140123134744.000f7246@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> References: <20140123134744.000f7246@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:47:32 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:47:44 +0100 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:04:52 +0200 Ross wrote: >> When I tried to install anything on a fresh FreeBSD 10 pkg failed. OK, I >> googled the topic. Main repository is half empty at the moment for some >> reason. I added another repo by creating /etc/pkg/release-0.conf: >> >> release-0: { >> url: "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/release/0", >> mirror_type: "srv", >> signature_type: "fingerprints", >> fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg", >> enabled: yes >> } >> >> So, now I have two repos: the main one and the release repo. Tried to >> >> pkg install kde >> >> After downloading the packages it failed because of conflicts. Apparently >> it mixed main repo packages with the release repo and died. OK, run this >> way: >> >> pkg install -r release-0 kde >> >> At last! Everything went well and now I have a KDE desktop. But what next? >> I want to run "pkg upgrade" some time later and have all the packages >> installed from the release repo to be updated to the latest version. >> >> At the moment, after "pkg upgrade" I get a list of packages to be upgraded >> and when I say "yes" pkg dies with errors like this (a lot of errors like >> this): >> >> pkg: WARNING: locally installed qt4-webkit-4.8.5 conflicts on >> /usr/local/share/qt4/mkspecs/modules/qt_webkit_version.pri with: >> - qt4-webkit-4.8.5_1 >> >> So how do I upgrade? Am I doing something wrong? > > There was a problem with the package builds last week. Everything should > be ok again now so you can remove the second repo. Hmm, I looked at the wrong repo. It's not ok yet, but it should be by the end of the week or so. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 14:38:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81146301 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CFE114AB for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:38:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=68UlsJZi2hZdL/IIjKhNw4BvA67s6ipuGgeBLcapfyU=; b=p8JnP8os26pehRGy+jXNjg7AhQegSrxVV5qCv9ffEX5zu4NG+lToyqfHDso4M9TbcvkvcYVwDyq4K2xblRVG2GPQXXyE7fkUG2dFBdpcdt5UgROKkaUWJMLcHLoCZBZJXzU0FY321PBSjdDn0eHpJzvFZjHRm1tfHNZwaOGmxs4=; Received: from [114.123.79.154] (port=62031 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W6LQ5-002zM7-9U for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:38:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:38:03 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: coretemp0: critical temperature detected, suggest system shutdown Message-ID: <20140123223803.3b02c179@X220.alogt.com> Organization: ALO Green Technologies X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erich@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:38:14 -0000 Hi, I have seen today for the first time above's message in messages. This happened when I compiled some ports. It is normal that the CPU get then some 96 degrees. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 15:00:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B7E51B2 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway01.edpnet.net (relaygateway01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2021682 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:00:40 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AksQAAcu4VJNbXft/2dsb2JhbABbgww4P4MViVqvFgOBERd0gk8zWAIFEw4CEQUliEAJmjKPEZcbhRaBKY10glmBSQSYIgGBMpBmgy47 X-IPAS-Result: AksQAAcu4VJNbXft/2dsb2JhbABbgww4P4MViVqvFgOBERd0gk8zWAIFEw4CEQUliEAJmjKPEZcbhRaBKY10glmBSQSYIgGBMpBmgy47 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,706,1384297200"; d="scan'208";a="232367857" Received: from 77.109.119.237.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.119.237]) by relaygateway01.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 23 Jan 2014 15:42:40 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:00:32 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 10 on HP Proliant Microserver Message-ID: <20140123150032.GV39980@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:00:41 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 10 (AMD64) on a new HP Proliant Microserver, but it panics on boot: http://slug.uni.cx/stuff/IMG_20140123_155316.jpg Any idea what could be wrong .. ? Thanks, Julien -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 15:44:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 354085B1 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip-006.utdallas.edu (ip-006.utdallas.edu [129.110.182.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD1441A9B for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:44:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AroIAI834VKBbgogVWdsb2JhbABbjGKiHZI0AwEXBAcLBxQoglMRAjGBMg4MLIdsmk6HC6QxkiuBFASJSKQ/HQ X-IPAS-Result: AroIAI834VKBbgogVWdsb2JhbABbjGKiHZI0AwEXBAcLBxQoglMRAjGBMg4MLIdsmk6HC6QxkiuBFASJSKQ/HQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,706,1384322400"; d="scan'208";a="20079906" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd71538.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-006.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 23 Jan 2014 09:43:20 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:43:59 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Freebsd Questions Subject: awk programming question Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; size=1921 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:44:31 -0000 I'm kind of stubborn. There's lots of different ways to skin a cat, but I like to force myself to use the built-in utilities to do things so I can learn more about them and better understand how they work. So, I'm trying to parse a file of snort rules, extract two string values and insert a double pipe between them to create a sig-msg.map file Here's a typical rule: alert udp $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET 69 (msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request"; content:"|00 01|"; depth:2; classtype:bad-unknown; sid:2008120; rev:1;) Here's a typical sig-msg.map file entry: 9624 || RPC UNIX authentication machinename string overflow attempt UDP So, from the above rule I would want to create a single line like this: 2008120 || E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request There are several ways I can extract one or the other value, and I've figured out how to extract the sid and add the double pipe, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to extract and print out sid || msg. This prints out the sid and the double pipe: echo `awk 'match($0,/sid:[0-9]*;/) {print substr($0,RSTART,RLENGTH)" || "}' /tmp/mtc.rules | tr -d ";sid" It seems I could put the results into a variable rather than printing them out, and then print var1 || var2, but my google foo hasn't found a useful example. Surely there's a way to do this using awk? I can use tr for cleanup. I just need to get close to the right result. How about it awk experts? What's the cleanest way to get this done? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 15:45:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33D5C652 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E710E1AB2 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.20.30.90] (50-0-66-198.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [50.0.66.198]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0NFP4JC027183 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:25:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from phoffman@proper.com) X-Authentication-Warning: hoffman.proper.com: Host 50-0-66-198.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [50.0.66.198] claimed to be [10.20.30.90] From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Undoing REPLACE_BASE for a BIND port Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:45:11 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:45:17 -0000 Greetings again. Earlier, I built bind98 from /usr/ports/dns/bind98, and = selected REPLACE_BASE. Now I want to use the base BIND. When I uninstall = bind98, it seems that there is no /usr/src/named any more. What is the = best way to revert from using REPLACE_BASE? --Paul Hoffman= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 15:56:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF3123D2 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x22b.google.com (mail-qa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C6691D48 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id o15so2425344qap.30 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:56:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2K4bmMRkWU+Q1ppJWkToNax1Ps4Mph/V4L6ShEbR+yA=; b=iPdk2O+fueFtCr0PvtGo+yi6yu177CGQbDCSXhLx1qGspm3JPttRnOI02hLUrn/T27 vvZTzSc0uI1GfTZDcGMCnOCibmsQuNiCym+sSM2dc/AbZ7yla/G7OrGKoAxQzlHJfMnq sL+7MbQOtLmZ4D99hJc3/LYGbbn7QPIXCsYLDmonExkI0ZJ0fq4M/5aKuxaETxR4Qrz2 rUbZ1MfD6nCiPD5ytpeEmY/RWSgTiZwJoETkg9vJ5mtLGBfekUaUvFYIk+QyqkVW/Imz OnDyuUjYiqz9Cyu3qbMeET5Quuj1KUqz2HnjUiCJKse59fSfVdkwAV13ymXQpv/vaxj9 V2ng== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.101.104 with SMTP id t95mr11910013qge.106.1390492577579; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.37.227 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:56:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:56:17 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS: pool vs FS From: krad To: Chris Stankevitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:56:18 -0000 1. Filesystems, not pools, can be mounted correct pools are imported, however every pool as a root dataset/file system, this is automatically mounted normally to the specified mount point. This isnt necessary the same as the pool name. This may not happen if various filesystem tunables are set (canmount, mountpoint=legacy, jailed,zoned) or import options set (-N -R) 2. "zpool create foo /dev/bar" makes new pool called foo correct, with a root dataset, mounted on $pool_name by default 3. (2) does not create a file system false see (1) 4. After (2), /foo is mounted and ready for writing not always see (1) 5. (4) violates (1) false On 22 January 2014 20:25, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Please identify any incorrect statements: > > 1. Filesystems, not pools, can be mounted > > 2. "zpool create foo /dev/bar" makes new pool called foo > > 3. (2) does not create a file system > > 4. After (2), /foo is mounted and ready for writing > > 5. (4) violates (1) > > Thank you, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 16:30:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D0B9199 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFC95100D for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0NGUZn6078226; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:30:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0NGUZ4n078223; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:30:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:30:35 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Paul Schmehl Subject: Re: awk programming question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:30:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: Freebsd Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:30:37 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I'm kind of stubborn. There's lots of different ways to skin a cat, but I > like to force myself to use the built-in utilities to do things so I can > learn more about them and better understand how they work. > > So, I'm trying to parse a file of snort rules, extract two string values and > insert a double pipe between them to create a sig-msg.map file > > Here's a typical rule: > > alert udp $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET 69 (msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound > TFTP Read Request"; content:"|00 01|"; depth:2; classtype:bad-unknown; > sid:2008120; rev:1;) > > Here's a typical sig-msg.map file entry: > > 9624 || RPC UNIX authentication machinename string overflow attempt UDP > > So, from the above rule I would want to create a single line like this: > > 2008120 || E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request > > There are several ways I can extract one or the other value, and I've figured > out how to extract the sid and add the double pipe, but for the life of me I > can't figure out how to extract and print out sid || msg. > > This prints out the sid and the double pipe: > > echo `awk 'match($0,/sid:[0-9]*;/) {print substr($0,RSTART,RLENGTH)" || "}' > /tmp/mtc.rules | tr -d ";sid" > > It seems I could put the results into a variable rather than printing them > out, and then print var1 || var2, but my google foo hasn't found a useful > example. > > Surely there's a way to do this using awk? I can use tr for cleanup. I just > need to get close to the right result. > > How about it awk experts? What's the cleanest way to get this done? Not an awk expert, but you can do math on the start and length variables to get just the date part: echo "sid:2008120;" \ | awk '{ match($0, /sid:[0-9]*;/) ; \ ymd=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; print ymd }' Closer to what you want: echo 'msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request"; sid:2008120;' \ | awk '{ match($0, /sid:[0-9]*;/) ; \ ymd=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ match($0, /msg:.*;/) ; \ msg = substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ print ymd, "||", msg }' Note the error that the too-greedy regex creates, and the inability of awk to capture regex sub-expressions. awk does not have a way to reduce the greediness, at least that I'm aware. You may be able to work around that, like if the message is always the same length. sed, despite its many weaknesses, can capture subexpressions: echo "sid:2008120;" | sed -e 's/^.*sid:\([0-9]*\);.*$/\1/' I don't think sed has a non-greedy modifier either. Basically, sed and awk are frozen in the early 1970s, back before it became popular to do useful things. That was one reason Perl came along, and later, Python and Ruby. echo 'msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request"; sid:2008120;' \ | perl -ne 'if ( /msg:"(.*)?";.*sid:(\d*?);/ ) { print "$2 || $1\n" };' The regex uses the ? to reduce greediness, Perl's "\d" instead of the longer [0-9], and the pattern capturing parens, which fill in $1 and $2. The "if" statement is not required, but it's bad practice to print the contents of pattern capture variables unless the match actually succeeded. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 16:31:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4769C283 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECA4010BB for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0NGVd0K078249; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:31:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0NGVdCs078246; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:31:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:31:39 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Paul Hoffman Subject: Re: Undoing REPLACE_BASE for a BIND port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:31:39 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:31:41 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Greetings again. Earlier, I built bind98 from /usr/ports/dns/bind98, > and selected REPLACE_BASE. Now I want to use the base BIND. When I > uninstall bind98, it seems that there is no /usr/src/named any more. > What is the best way to revert from using REPLACE_BASE? In what version of FreeBSD? FreeBSD 10 does not have bind in base any more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 16:53:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AB52CBF for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6247912A2 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.20.30.90] (50-0-66-198.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [50.0.66.198]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0NGWoNB029331 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:32:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from phoffman@proper.com) X-Authentication-Warning: hoffman.proper.com: Host 50-0-66-198.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [50.0.66.198] claimed to be [10.20.30.90] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: Undoing REPLACE_BASE for a BIND port From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:52:59 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7027F6B0-FEF6-4895-8A92-8E735F16B989@proper.com> References: To: Warren Block X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:53:03 -0000 On Jan 23, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Paul Hoffman wrote: >=20 >> Greetings again. Earlier, I built bind98 from /usr/ports/dns/bind98, = and selected REPLACE_BASE. Now I want to use the base BIND. When I = uninstall bind98, it seems that there is no /usr/src/named any more. = What is the best way to revert from using REPLACE_BASE? >=20 > In what version of FreeBSD? FreeBSD 10 does not have bind in base any = more. It is running 9.2-RELEASE. It is running BIND on purpose because it acts = as an authoritative server. --Paul Hoffman= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 17:31:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAA96352 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 642411663 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0NHVV2V078898; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:31:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0NHVVKP078895; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:31:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:31:31 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Paul Hoffman Subject: Re: Undoing REPLACE_BASE for a BIND port In-Reply-To: <7027F6B0-FEF6-4895-8A92-8E735F16B989@proper.com> Message-ID: References: <7027F6B0-FEF6-4895-8A92-8E735F16B989@proper.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:31:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:31:37 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Jan 23, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> >>> Greetings again. Earlier, I built bind98 from /usr/ports/dns/bind98, >>> and selected REPLACE_BASE. Now I want to use the base BIND. When I >>> uninstall bind98, it seems that there is no /usr/src/named any more. >>> What is the best way to revert from using REPLACE_BASE? >> >> In what version of FreeBSD? FreeBSD 10 does not have bind in base any more. > > It is running 9.2-RELEASE. It is running BIND on purpose because it acts as an authoritative server. That should be /usr/src/contrib/bind9/bin/named or /usr/src/usr.sbin/named. You may need to do a buildworld/installworld cycle to get the base version back. And check that it is not being prevented from building in /etc/src.conf. But I would install dns/bind99. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 18:03:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DCC4581 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22a.google.com (mail-we0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06A091909 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f170.google.com with SMTP id u57so1609775wes.15 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:03:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=B/HgppQjgDZJZILOB7wU7qN3A378Eo6jaPAQqqCRjYQ=; b=F0jkSGIwWS2sx2vPC7jAD1PnYRaYdvHh4rOppHLCezRYcfrgojoxbWRGGb78S1pFjn fJwXQXov/OcCVJxFTAl4SKpVGj5xim6cWKgMt4fcrBV/YVp27FiyuT224xkZn+XhWABV /uCccSVfsa7YwmkYQlZefjU0nUBqwg6Ob1l7O32cUufVpI+cpUFmg39rRPslOsqQOlxS BUNEZwZ/wfBtJPPYXN0JpRUWTvFygvfF8ohAHpMnj+snmA1/zxI/UtstjMBZsRp+9jbR ZOw4hF2mrcixnytYawh1DAs/OYu4MIq2gwVo56bcOUFC/o4WZKQl+5ZMvYALXAdry7po g2bA== X-Received: by 10.194.60.73 with SMTP id f9mr2681562wjr.65.1390500210537; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-112-13.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.112.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p1sm765173wie.1.2014.01.23.10.03.29 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:03:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:03:28 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: find/fts_read and mountpoints Message-ID: <20140123180328.7dd2dc6d@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:03:32 -0000 Could someone elaborate on this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33235 I don't see why it isn't considered to be a bug. The problem is that find(1) (and potentially other things using fts(3)) will fail with a cryptic error message when recursing across a mountpoint where the underlying directory lacks read and execute permissions. This happens despite read and execute permissions on the mounted volume that allow directory listing and traversal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 18:56:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 766CF996 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com (mail-we0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B5AB1E64 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id t60so1668747wes.9 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:56:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=P9mBn580QX4xuGaCqVHeFoSUkTwpzC/ITYdjyR5iP8Q=; b=xOrPnxYay57VzhYHWoyGWP7t1y9uGudhhif28h/xCT2AlDv9MYagjwvQIMVmVZFb2c auu9UeT2SH5QM9K0SyAKYMkyD+lKoFEhhMIsxF5baaUV7F0K15FLKKwiA9cEmM5bvaYy veZq1ggzt3glRLmfm7YfQNaInlgf6KgjF01yPMba4KqjA5shrkk+C0GM5DsbifOeacY4 UtvlFareE0UYFZzAzqmROOWXgMF59UqOLORC5Nbgm/KVlPSQC3mQ4wZ2Aj84XwDUfVYi yUOY0j5jw/yzs9QRn/x86s5NOGk0Mi51PsKOl/W7+K13bmxGEmY+Qp6oaWwT6vPzysjl +FGA== X-Received: by 10.194.202.230 with SMTP id kl6mr7976191wjc.9.1390503366436; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-112-13.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.112.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z1sm24599814wjq.19.2014.01.23.10.56.05 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:56:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:56:04 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: awk programming question Message-ID: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:56:08 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:30:35 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > > I'm kind of stubborn. There's lots of different ways to skin a > > cat, but I like to force myself to use the built-in utilities to do > > things so I can learn more about them and better understand how > > they work. > > > > So, I'm trying to parse a file of snort rules, extract two string > > values and insert a double pipe between them to create a > > sig-msg.map file > > > > Here's a typical rule: > > > > alert udp $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET 69 (msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY > > Outbound TFTP Read Request"; content:"|00 01|"; depth:2; > > classtype:bad-unknown; sid:2008120; rev:1;) > > > > Here's a typical sig-msg.map file entry: > > > > 9624 || RPC UNIX authentication machinename string overflow attempt > > UDP > > > > So, from the above rule I would want to create a single line like > > this: > > > > 2008120 || E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request > > > > There are several ways I can extract one or the other value, and > > I've figured out how to extract the sid and add the double pipe, > > but for the life of me I can't figure out how to extract and print > > out sid || msg. > > > > This prints out the sid and the double pipe: > > > > echo `awk 'match($0,/sid:[0-9]*;/) {print > > substr($0,RSTART,RLENGTH)" || "}' /tmp/mtc.rules | tr -d ";sid" > > > > It seems I could put the results into a variable rather than > > printing them out, and then print var1 || var2, but my google foo > > hasn't found a useful example. > > > > Surely there's a way to do this using awk? I can use tr for > > cleanup. I just need to get close to the right result. > > > > How about it awk experts? What's the cleanest way to get this done? > > Not an awk expert, but you can do math on the start and length > variables to get just the date part: > > echo "sid:2008120;" \ > | awk '{ match($0, /sid:[0-9]*;/) ; \ > ymd=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; print ymd }' > > Closer to what you want: > > echo 'msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request"; > sid:2008120;' \ | awk '{ match($0, /sid:[0-9]*;/) ; \ > ymd=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ > match($0, /msg:.*;/) ; \ > msg = substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ > print ymd, "||", msg }' > > Note the error that the too-greedy regex creates, and the inability > of awk to capture regex sub-expressions. awk does not have a way to > reduce the greediness, at least that I'm aware. You may be able to > work around that, like if the message is always the same length. $ echo 'msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request"; sid:2008120;' |\ awk '{ match($0, /sid:[0-9]+;/) ; ymd=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ match($0, /msg:[^;]+;/) ; msg = substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ print ymd, "||", msg }' 2008120 || "E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request" Note that awk supports +, but not newfangled things like *. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 19:06:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7741CCE3 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22e.google.com (mail-oa0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4112F1F35 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id n16so2626865oag.33 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:06:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xNyyuHXcGvcdH9Oh3I6uv3zH12PAYC4+jeWin29wIPk=; b=t2bMOIvJzNoTsarUFhReXd9LihFDGRiCS2uBhtzQmFT6mGYTF36J7L2FYKV4/LHWB+ fZPLLUbaD0o66YuJZm5SkEm/qZKKLacUHk9SR7DvVPDsQKS16t0FbPnCFwDWi8HSTDoh YJcuzWXM+WiNr3e/bWg3r0Xb428I8K+3GHPk61JGNI7YqQx9hulxv9eaNcnbqawNsleP FljVrq/67OTqciXxp9StnFEi7bDkU4JpE10q5h6dkXAduVMLyN0AQHym/Ayj5ULHzejk 2wPSfkHntOQTiOFf4r6F5LlSOuHQAJewL/tagwSnf8t9C43TDAY5EC9iHfXyDMXP3OGf 1u6w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.72.234 with SMTP id g10mr7988911obv.21.1390503964496; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.235.80 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:06:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:06:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD 9.2 won't boot without a video console under KVM From: David Tenney To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:06:05 -0000 I'm trying to run a FreeBSD 9.2 64-bit installation under KVM, but am having issues when I remove the video hardware and install a serial console connection. The installation boots just fine when video/Cirrus hardware is provided to the virtual machine, but once it is removed, the installation stops at the BTX loader and causes KVM to go into Paused mode, which cannot be returned to Running. Here is a list of adjustments that were made to configuration files: /etc/ttys: ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure /boot/defaults/loader.conf: console="comconsole" /boot.config: echo "-hP" > /boot.config Any help would be great. Thanks! -- David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 19:53:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 588B242D for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A54213A6 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id s0NJqwVl096109 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:52:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <52E1731A.1020005@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:52:58 -0700 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: coretemp0: critical temperature detected, suggest system shutdown References: <20140123223803.3b02c179@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20140123223803.3b02c179@X220.alogt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:52:58 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:53:07 -0000 On 01/23/14 07:38, Erich Dollansky wrote: > I have seen today for the first time above's message in messages. > > This happened when I compiled some ports. It is normal that the CPU get > then some 96 degrees. I had this problem some time ago. I ended up replacing the stock fan on my system with a better one. However, a good cleaning of the system may remove enough dust, cobwebs, etc. and promote better airflow and thereby solve the problem. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 20:20:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 218889BF; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF46E165B; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.192]) by ltcfislmsgpa01.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0NKKWBW004241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:20:32 -0600 Received: from THEMADHATTER (10.242.181.54) by smarthost.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.192) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:20:30 -0600 From: Sender: Devin Teske To: "'RW'" , References: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> Subject: RE: awk programming question Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:20:26 -0800 Message-ID: <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQImboywfYAMtXakWRoTJ2P0ROJwWwJr8ryGAjfseSaZvuO00A== Content-Language: en-us X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-23_05:2014-01-22,2014-01-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: 'Devin Teske' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:20:33 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: RW [mailto:rwmaillists@googlemail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:56 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: awk programming question > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:30:35 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > > > > I'm kind of stubborn. There's lots of different ways to skin a cat, > > > but I like to force myself to use the built-in utilities to do > > > things so I can learn more about them and better understand how they > > > work. > > > > > > So, I'm trying to parse a file of snort rules, extract two string > > > values and insert a double pipe between them to create a sig-msg.map > > > file > > > > > > Here's a typical rule: > > > > > > alert udp $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET 69 (msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY > > > Outbound TFTP Read Request"; content:"|00 01|"; depth:2; > > > classtype:bad-unknown; sid:2008120; rev:1;) > > > > > > Here's a typical sig-msg.map file entry: > > > > > > 9624 || RPC UNIX authentication machinename string overflow attempt > > > UDP > > > > > > So, from the above rule I would want to create a single line like > > > this: > > > > > > 2008120 || E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request > > > > > > There are several ways I can extract one or the other value, and > > > I've figured out how to extract the sid and add the double pipe, but > > > for the life of me I can't figure out how to extract and print out > > > sid || msg. > > > > > > This prints out the sid and the double pipe: > > > > > > echo `awk 'match($0,/sid:[0-9]*;/) {print substr($0,RSTART,RLENGTH)" > > > || "}' /tmp/mtc.rules | tr -d ";sid" > > > > > > It seems I could put the results into a variable rather than > > > printing them out, and then print var1 || var2, but my google foo > > > hasn't found a useful example. > > > > > > Surely there's a way to do this using awk? I can use tr for > > > cleanup. I just need to get close to the right result. > > > > > > How about it awk experts? What's the cleanest way to get this done? > > > > Not an awk expert, but you can do math on the start and length > > variables to get just the date part: > > > > echo "sid:2008120;" \ > > | awk '{ match($0, /sid:[0-9]*;/) ; \ > > ymd=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; print ymd }' > > > > Closer to what you want: > > > > echo 'msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request"; sid:2008120;' > > \ | awk '{ match($0, /sid:[0-9]*;/) ; \ > > ymd=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ > > match($0, /msg:.*;/) ; \ > > msg = substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ > > print ymd, "||", msg }' > > > > Note the error that the too-greedy regex creates, and the inability of > > awk to capture regex sub-expressions. awk does not have a way to > > reduce the greediness, at least that I'm aware. You may be able to > > work around that, like if the message is always the same length. > > > $ echo 'msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request"; sid:2008120;' > |\ > awk '{ match($0, /sid:[0-9]+;/) ; ymd=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ > match($0, /msg:[^;]+;/) ; msg = substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ > print ymd, "||", msg }' > > 2008120 || "E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request" > > Note that awk supports +, but not newfangled things like *. With respect to regex, what awk really needs is the quantifier syntax... * = {0,} = zero or more + = {1,} = one or more {x,y} = any quantity from x inclusively up to y {x,} = any quantity from x or more sed supports it -- e.g., echo "aaa" | sed -e 's/a\{1,2\}//' # produces "a" sed -E (aka sed -r) supports it -- e.g., echo "aaa" | sed -E 's/a{1,2}//' # produces "a" grep supports it -- e.g., echo "aaa" | grep 'a\{2,\}' # match printed grep -E (aka egrep) supports it -- e.g., echo "aaa" | grep -E 'a{2,}' # match printed perl supports it -- obviously (in the modern regex form, lacking backslash) nvi supports it -- e.g., :%s/a\{1,2\}// vim supports it -- obviously (and uses the backslash form; even with noncompatible set) onetrueawk however does NOT support it -- example given... echo aaa | awk '/a{2,}/{print}' # no match printed echo aaa | awk '/a\{2,\}/{print}' # no match printed There's a couple of other nits here... 1. sig-msg.map file according to OP shouldn't have the quotes that are present from the snort rule input 2. Doesn't ignore lines of disinterest (See http://oreilly.com/pub/h/1393) NB: The result code of match() is ignored; I don't think the program should output known bad sig-msg.map lines (where an sid is not given, for example; which appears to be the key for the sig-msg.map file). I gather that a more complete solution would be as follows: awk '!/^[[:space:]]*(#|$)/{if (!match($0, /[[:space:](;]sid:[[:space:]]*[0-9]/)) next; sid = substr($0, RSTART + RLENGTH - 1); sub(/[^0-9].*/, "", sid); if (!match($0, /[[:space:](;]msg:[[:space:]]*/)) next; buf = substr($0, RSTART + RLENGTH); quoted = substr(buf, 0, 1) == "\""; split(buf, msg, quoted ? "\"" : FS); print sid, "||", msg[quoted ? 2 : 1]}' rules_file Where "rules_file" is the name of the file you want to parse. Putting this into a script, we can clean it up so that it's readable... #!/bin/sh awk ' !/^[[:space:]]*(#|$)/ { if (!match($0, /[[:space:](;]sid:[[:space:]]*[0-9]/)) next sid = substr($0, RSTART + RLENGTH - 1) sub(/[^0-9].*/, "", sid) if (!match($0, /[[:space:](;]msg:[[:space:]]*/)) next buf = substr($0, RSTART + RLENGTH) quoted = substr(buf, 0, 1) == "\"" split(buf, msg, quoted ? "\"" : FS) print sid, "||", msg[quoted ? 2 : 1] }' "$@" -- Cheers, Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 20:46:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0A74D3E; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip-005.utdallas.edu (ip-005.utdallas.edu [129.110.182.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C294118FD; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:45:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkcMABt+4VKBbgogVWdsb2JhbABag0SJHqIjkUyBKwMBFwQHAgkHFCiCJQEBAQQnEQIxGgQLEQQBAQEnB0MDCQgGARIZAodWAxHBIQ2FVheMbIIbBoMegRQEiUiQDZQyHQ X-IPAS-Result: AkcMABt+4VKBbgogVWdsb2JhbABag0SJHqIjkUyBKwMBFwQHAgkHFCiCJQEBAQQnEQIxGgQLEQQBAQEnB0MDCQgGARIZAodWAxHBIQ2FVheMbIIbBoMegRQEiUiQDZQyHQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,708,1384322400"; d="scan'208";a="21158311" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd71538.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-005.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 23 Jan 2014 14:44:37 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:45:16 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: dteske@FreeBSD.org, 'RW' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: awk programming question Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> References: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; size=6497 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:46:03 -0000 --On January 23, 2014 at 12:20:26 PM -0800 dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: RW [mailto:rwmaillists@googlemail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:56 AM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: awk programming question >> >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:30:35 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: >> >> > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> > >> > > I'm kind of stubborn. There's lots of different ways to skin a cat, >> > > but I like to force myself to use the built-in utilities to do >> > > things so I can learn more about them and better understand how they >> > > work. >> > > >> > > So, I'm trying to parse a file of snort rules, extract two string >> > > values and insert a double pipe between them to create a sig-msg.map >> > > file >> > > >> > > Here's a typical rule: >> > > >> > > alert udp $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET 69 (msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY >> > > Outbound TFTP Read Request"; content:"|00 01|"; depth:2; >> > > classtype:bad-unknown; sid:2008120; rev:1;) >> > > >> > > Here's a typical sig-msg.map file entry: >> > > >> > > 9624 || RPC UNIX authentication machinename string overflow attempt >> > > UDP >> > > >> > > So, from the above rule I would want to create a single line like >> > > this: >> > > >> > > 2008120 || E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request >> > > >> > > There are several ways I can extract one or the other value, and >> > > I've figured out how to extract the sid and add the double pipe, but >> > > for the life of me I can't figure out how to extract and print out >> > > sid || msg. >> > > >> > > This prints out the sid and the double pipe: >> > > >> > > echo `awk 'match($0,/sid:[0-9]*;/) {print substr($0,RSTART,RLENGTH)" >> > > || "}' /tmp/mtc.rules | tr -d ";sid" >> > > >> > > It seems I could put the results into a variable rather than >> > > printing them out, and then print var1 || var2, but my google foo >> > > hasn't found a useful example. >> > > >> > > Surely there's a way to do this using awk? I can use tr for >> > > cleanup. I just need to get close to the right result. >> > > >> > > How about it awk experts? What's the cleanest way to get this done? >> > >> > Not an awk expert, but you can do math on the start and length >> > variables to get just the date part: >> > >> > echo "sid:2008120;" \ >> > | awk '{ match($0, /sid:[0-9]*;/) ; \ >> > ymd=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; print ymd }' >> > >> > Closer to what you want: >> > >> > echo 'msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request"; sid:2008120;' >> > \ | awk '{ match($0, /sid:[0-9]*;/) ; \ >> > ymd=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ >> > match($0, /msg:.*;/) ; \ >> > msg = substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; \ >> > print ymd, "||", msg }' >> > >> > Note the error that the too-greedy regex creates, and the inability of >> > awk to capture regex sub-expressions. awk does not have a way to >> > reduce the greediness, at least that I'm aware. You may be able to >> > work around that, like if the message is always the same length. >> >> >> $ echo 'msg:"E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request"; sid:2008120;' >> | \ >> awk '{ match($0, /sid:[0-9]+;/) ; ymd=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; > \ >> match($0, /msg:[^;]+;/) ; msg = substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) ; > \ >> print ymd, "||", msg }' >> >> 2008120 || "E3[rb] ET POLICY Outbound TFTP Read Request" >> >> Note that awk supports +, but not newfangled things like *. > > With respect to regex, what awk really needs is the quantifier syntax... > > * = {0,} = zero or more > + = {1,} = one or more > {x,y} = any quantity from x inclusively up to y > {x,} = any quantity from x or more > > sed supports it -- e.g., echo "aaa" | sed -e 's/a\{1,2\}//' # produces "a" > sed -E (aka sed -r) supports it -- e.g., echo "aaa" | sed -E 's/a{1,2}//' > # produces "a" > grep supports it -- e.g., echo "aaa" | grep 'a\{2,\}' # match printed > grep -E (aka egrep) supports it -- e.g., echo "aaa" | grep -E 'a{2,}' # > match printed > perl supports it -- obviously (in the modern regex form, lacking > backslash) nvi supports it -- e.g., :%s/a\{1,2\}// > vim supports it -- obviously (and uses the backslash form; even with > noncompatible set) > > onetrueawk however does NOT support it -- example given... > echo aaa | awk '/a{2,}/{print}' # no match printed > echo aaa | awk '/a\{2,\}/{print}' # no match printed > > There's a couple of other nits here... > > 1. sig-msg.map file according to OP shouldn't have the quotes that are > present from the snort rule input > 2. Doesn't ignore lines of disinterest (See http://oreilly.com/pub/h/1393) > NB: The result code of match() is ignored; I don't think the program > should output > known bad sig-msg.map lines (where an sid is not given, for example; which > appears > to be the key for the sig-msg.map file). > > I gather that a more complete solution would be as follows: > > awk '!/^[[:space:]]*(#|$)/{if (!match($0, > /[[:space:](;]sid:[[:space:]]*[0-9]/)) next; sid = substr($0, RSTART + > RLENGTH - 1); sub(/[^0-9].*/, "", sid); if (!match($0, > /[[:space:](;]msg:[[:space:]]*/)) next; buf = substr($0, RSTART + > RLENGTH); quoted = substr(buf, 0, 1) == "\""; split(buf, msg, quoted ? > "\"" : FS); print sid, "||", msg[quoted ? 2 : 1]}' rules_file > > Where "rules_file" is the name of the file you want to parse. > > Putting this into a script, we can clean it up so that it's readable... > ># !/bin/sh > awk ' > !/^[[:space:]]*(#|$)/ { > if (!match($0, /[[:space:](;]sid:[[:space:]]*[0-9]/)) next > sid = substr($0, RSTART + RLENGTH - 1) > sub(/[^0-9].*/, "", sid) > if (!match($0, /[[:space:](;]msg:[[:space:]]*/)) next > buf = substr($0, RSTART + RLENGTH) > quoted = substr(buf, 0, 1) == "\"" > split(buf, msg, quoted ? "\"" : FS) > print sid, "||", msg[quoted ? 2 : 1] > }' "$@" Thanks so much! In the end I opted to use perl, because i had more pressing matters to attend to, but I'm please to know that it's doable with awk, and I will test your script (and endeavor to more fully understand it) when I have the time to do so. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 20:57:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A740D3C7; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2E8419FA; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0NKv3NP080736; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:57:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0NKv3rH080733; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:57:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:57:03 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "'Devin Teske'" Subject: RE: awk programming question In-Reply-To: <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:57:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: 'RW' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:57:05 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: >> From: RW [mailto:rwmaillists@googlemail.com] >> Note that awk supports +, but not newfangled things like *. > > With respect to regex, what awk really needs is the quantifier syntax... > > * = {0,} = zero or more > + = {1,} = one or more > {x,y} = any quantity from x inclusively up to y > {x,} = any quantity from x or more I think RW meant to type that awk did not have the newfangled "?" for non-greedy matches. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 21:05:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C90205F8; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FF7D1AC0; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.191]) by ltcfislmsgpa05.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0NL5IIe001942 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:05:18 -0600 Received: from THEMADHATTER (10.242.181.54) by smarthost.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.191) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:05:16 -0600 From: Sender: Devin Teske To: "'Warren Block'" , "'Devin Teske'" References: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: awk programming question Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:05:12 -0800 Message-ID: <04aa01cf187e$cfcf9ef0$6f6edcd0$@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQImboywfYAMtXakWRoTJ2P0ROJwWwJr8ryGAjfseSYDBtd9AwHDspKgmZisGGA= Content-Language: en-us X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-23_05:2014-01-23,2014-01-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: 'RW' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:05:19 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Warren Block [mailto:wblock@wonkity.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:57 PM > To: 'Devin Teske' > Cc: 'RW'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: awk programming question > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > >> From: RW [mailto:rwmaillists@googlemail.com] > >> Note that awk supports +, but not newfangled things like *. > > > > With respect to regex, what awk really needs is the quantifier syntax... > > > > * = {0,} = zero or more > > + = {1,} = one or more > > {x,y} = any quantity from x inclusively up to y {x,} = any quantity > > from x or more > > I think RW meant to type that awk did not have the newfangled "?" for non- > greedy matches. But that one is supported. Tested on 9.2-R and 10.0-R... echo abbb | awk '{sub(/a?bbb/, ""); print}' # produces NULL output echo bbb | awk '{sub(/a?bbb/, ""); print}' # similarly produces NULL output Seems to be supported. But I'd really like to see {x,y} (the ? is equivalent to {0,1}). -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. 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[87.194.112.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hv3sm988231wib.5.2014.01.23.13.33.52 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:33:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:33:52 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: awk programming question Message-ID: <20140123213352.5f289890@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:33:56 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:57:03 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > >> From: RW [mailto:rwmaillists@googlemail.com] > >> Note that awk supports +, but not newfangled things like *. > > > > With respect to regex, what awk really needs is the quantifier > > syntax... > > > > * = {0,} = zero or more > > + = {1,} = one or more > > {x,y} = any quantity from x inclusively up to y > > {x,} = any quantity from x or more > > I think RW meant to type that awk did not have the newfangled "?" for > non-greedy matches. No I meant it doesn't support *, which had been used in all the previous awk examples in this thread, and would have been interpreted as a literal "*". $ echo "sid:2008120; re" | awk ' {match($0,/[0-9]+/) ; \ s=substr($0,RSTART,RLENGTH) ; print "_",s,"_"} ' _ 2008120 _ 21:12 (bob) ~ $ echo "sid:2008120; re" | awk ' {match($0,/[0-9]*/) ; \ s=substr($0,RSTART,RLENGTH) ; print "_",s,"_"} ' _ _ On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:20:26 -0800 dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > 1. sig-msg.map file according to OP shouldn't have the quotes that are > present from the snort rule input > 2. Doesn't ignore lines of disinterest I know nothing about snort - I was just going on the previous posts, but FWIW removing the quotes is just a matter of changing: msg = substr($0,RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) to msg = substr($0,RSTART+5, RLENGTH-6) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 21:57:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEAE933F; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85249109F; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.191]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0NLvQO6025047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:57:26 -0600 Received: from THEMADHATTER (10.242.181.54) by smarthost.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.191) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:57:24 -0600 From: Sender: Devin Teske To: "'RW'" , References: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> <20140123213352.5f289890@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140123213352.5f289890@gumby.homeunix.com> Subject: RE: awk programming question Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:57:20 -0800 Message-ID: <04bd01cf1886$1844f390$48cedab0$@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQImboywfYAMtXakWRoTJ2P0ROJwWwJr8ryGAjfseSYDBtd9AwHDspKgALGSJniZkyqbIA== Content-Language: en-us X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-23_05:2014-01-23,2014-01-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: 'Devin Teske' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:57:28 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: RW [mailto:rwmaillists@googlemail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 1:34 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: awk programming question > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:57:03 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > > > >> From: RW [mailto:rwmaillists@googlemail.com] > > >> Note that awk supports +, but not newfangled things like *. > > > > > > With respect to regex, what awk really needs is the quantifier > > > syntax... > > > > > > * = {0,} = zero or more > > > + = {1,} = one or more > > > {x,y} = any quantity from x inclusively up to y {x,} = any quantity > > > from x or more > > > > I think RW meant to type that awk did not have the newfangled "?" for > > non-greedy matches. > > No I meant it doesn't support *, which had been used in all the previous awk > examples in this thread, and would have been interpreted as a literal "*". > > $ echo "sid:2008120; re" | awk ' {match($0,/[0-9]+/) ; \ > s=substr($0,RSTART,RLENGTH) ; print "_",s,"_"} ' > _ 2008120 _ > 21:12 (bob) ~ > $ echo "sid:2008120; re" | awk ' {match($0,/[0-9]*/) ; \ > s=substr($0,RSTART,RLENGTH) ; print "_",s,"_"} ' > _ _ > Awk does support "*" but you have to give match() something to "anchor" to. For example... $ echo "sid:2008120; re" | awk '{match($0,/[0-9][0-9]*/); \ s=substr($0,RSTART,RLENGTH); print "_",s,"_"}' _ 2008120 _ > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:20:26 -0800 > dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > > 1. sig-msg.map file according to OP shouldn't have the quotes that are > > present from the snort rule input 2. Doesn't ignore lines of > > disinterest > > I know nothing about snort - I was just going on the previous posts, but > FWIW removing the quotes is just a matter of changing: > > msg = substr($0,RSTART+4, RLENGTH-5) > > to > > msg = substr($0,RSTART+5, RLENGTH-6) The match() that preceded that (going back in the thread) was: match($0, /msg:[^;]+;/ That was bad for a couple reasons. 1. The msg could be the last property in the ( ... ) set, meaning the msg would either be NULL or contain too much (go beyond the terminating parenthetical and on to the next semi-colon 2. If the msg is not double-quoted, you'll end up shaving the first and last byte unexpectedly. Hence why I test the first byte of the msg and then split on a conditional field separator, later extracting the appropriate field based on traditional parsing logic (which a little googling helped when it came to finding out how simple vs. complex the snort rules file was). -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 22:42:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68858F1F; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0239F1515; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0NMgIaP081722; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:42:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0NMgG97081719; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:42:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:42:16 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "'Devin Teske'" Subject: RE: awk programming question In-Reply-To: <04aa01cf187e$cfcf9ef0$6f6edcd0$@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> <04aa01cf187e$cfcf9ef0$6f6edcd0$@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:42:18 -0700 (MST) Cc: 'RW' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:42:24 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Warren Block [mailto:wblock@wonkity.com] >> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:57 PM >> To: 'Devin Teske' >> Cc: 'RW'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: RE: awk programming question >> >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: >> >>>> From: RW [mailto:rwmaillists@googlemail.com] >>>> Note that awk supports +, but not newfangled things like *. >>> >>> With respect to regex, what awk really needs is the quantifier syntax... >>> >>> * = {0,} = zero or more >>> + = {1,} = one or more >>> {x,y} = any quantity from x inclusively up to y {x,} = any quantity >>> from x or more >> >> I think RW meant to type that awk did not have the newfangled "?" for non- >> greedy matches. > > But that one is supported. Tested on 9.2-R and 10.0-R... > > echo abbb | awk '{sub(/a?bbb/, ""); print}' # produces NULL output > echo bbb | awk '{sub(/a?bbb/, ""); print}' # similarly produces NULL output > > Seems to be supported. But I'd really like to see {x,y} (the ? is equivalent > to {0,1}). No, the non-greedy modifier to a standard quantifier: echo "abczabczabcz" | perl -ne '/(a.*z)/; print "$1\n"' abczabczabcz echo "abczabczabcz" | perl -ne '/(a.*?z)/; print "$1\n"' abcz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 23 23:45:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AB8F698; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:45:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E618919F6; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.191]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0NNj3k6031425 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:45:03 -0600 Received: from THEMADHATTER (10.242.181.54) by smarthost.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.191) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:45:01 -0600 From: Sender: Devin Teske To: "'Warren Block'" , "'Devin Teske'" References: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> <04aa01cf187e$cfcf9ef0$6f6edcd0$@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: awk programming question Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:44:56 -0800 Message-ID: <04d201cf1895$20956890$61c039b0$@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQImboywfYAMtXakWRoTJ2P0ROJwWwJr8ryGAjfseSYDBtd9AwHDspKgAVvTlWgA1aCjm5mHTZOg Content-Language: en-us X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-23_05:2014-01-23,2014-01-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: 'RW' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:45:10 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Warren Block [mailto:wblock@wonkity.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:42 PM > To: 'Devin Teske' > Cc: 'RW'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: awk programming question > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Warren Block [mailto:wblock@wonkity.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:57 PM > >> To: 'Devin Teske' > >> Cc: 'RW'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> Subject: RE: awk programming question > >> > >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > >> > >>>> From: RW [mailto:rwmaillists@googlemail.com] > >>>> Note that awk supports +, but not newfangled things like *. > >>> > >>> With respect to regex, what awk really needs is the quantifier syntax... > >>> > >>> * = {0,} = zero or more > >>> + = {1,} = one or more > >>> {x,y} = any quantity from x inclusively up to y {x,} = any quantity > >>> from x or more > >> > >> I think RW meant to type that awk did not have the newfangled "?" for > >> non- greedy matches. > > > > But that one is supported. Tested on 9.2-R and 10.0-R... > > > > echo abbb | awk '{sub(/a?bbb/, ""); print}' # produces NULL output > > echo bbb | awk '{sub(/a?bbb/, ""); print}' # similarly produces NULL > > output > > > > Seems to be supported. But I'd really like to see {x,y} (the ? is > > equivalent to {0,1}). > > No, the non-greedy modifier to a standard quantifier: > > echo "abczabczabcz" | perl -ne '/(a.*z)/; print "$1\n"' > abczabczabcz > > echo "abczabczabcz" | perl -ne '/(a.*?z)/; print "$1\n"' > abcz Craziness! Wonder when that crept in. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that -- in terms of readability, I'm not sure if the following is more readable: /(a[^z]*z)/ -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. 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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:22:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: 'RW' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:22:57 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: >> No, the non-greedy modifier to a standard quantifier: >> >> echo "abczabczabcz" | perl -ne '/(a.*z)/; print "$1\n"' >> abczabczabcz >> >> echo "abczabczabcz" | perl -ne '/(a.*?z)/; print "$1\n"' >> abcz > > Craziness! Wonder when that crept in. I've been using it for at least a decade, so it's probably been around at least twice that long. ...So probably came out about twenty years after the sed and awk feature sets were frozen. :) > I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that -- in terms of > readability, I'm not sure if the following is more readable: > > /(a[^z]*z)/ Wait till you see the other PCRE stuff. There are lots of things that really make it much more powerful. perlre(1) covers it all, sketchily and not really in order. I've said elsewhere, and will repeat again: "Mastering Regular Expressions" by Jeffrey E. F. Friedl (the owl book) is amazing. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 03:44:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA90BE19 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from the-host.seacom.mu (ge-0.ln-01-mba.ke.seacomnet.com [41.87.100.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 504B61E7F for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=the-host.localnet) by the-host.seacom.mu with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1W6XIk-0001hD-Ei; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 05:19:26 +0200 From: Mark Tinka Organization: SEACOM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Am I getting too old Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 05:19:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.37.6-24-desktop; KDE/4.6.0; i686; ; ) References: <201401220735230348.009E6644@smtp.24cl.home> In-Reply-To: <201401220735230348.009E6644@smtp.24cl.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2889493.K9CBLivOWD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201401240519.21142.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> Cc: "Mike." X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark.tinka@seacom.mu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:44:25 -0000 --nextPart2889493.K9CBLivOWD Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 02:35:23 PM Mike. wrote: > In summary, I now prefer gpart and the gsuite of tools, > but they are still rough around the edges in the > documentation, ease of use and examples areas. If you're having trouble understanding the new installer,=20 suggest looking at the 4th last post from "wblock" at this=20 link: https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?t=3D26578 It gives you a good summary on how to quickly get partitions=20 setup and the installer going. 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Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.29.163 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:55:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 06:55:13 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Errors building p5-Mouse port From: "C. L. Martinez" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 06:55:15 -0000 Hi all, I have a poudriere server used to rebuild packages for my Fbsd8 and Fbsd10 servers. Due to some dependencies, p5-Mouse port needs to be installed for both releases. But for both releases, build fails for this port with the following errors: xs-src/MouseAccessor.xs => xs-src/MouseAccessor.c xs-src/MouseAttribute.xs => xs-src/MouseAttribute.c xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs => xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.c xs-src/MouseUtil.xs => xs-src/MouseUtil.c cc -I. -Ixs-src -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/mach/CORE -DPIC -fPIC -Wall -Wextra -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wc++-compat -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -o xs-src/MouseUtil.o xs-src/MouseUtil.c xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs: In function 'boot_Mouse__Util': xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:609: warning: implicit declaration of function 'setup_my_cxt' xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:612: warning: implicit declaration of function 'DEFINE_TC' xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:612: error: 'Any' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:612: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:612: error: for each function it appears in.) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:613: error: 'Undef' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:614: error: 'Defined' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:615: error: 'Bool' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:616: error: 'Value' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:617: error: 'Ref' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:618: error: 'Str' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:619: error: 'Num' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:620: error: 'Int' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:621: error: 'ScalarRef' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:622: error: 'ArrayRef' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:623: error: 'HashRef' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:624: error: 'CodeRef' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:625: error: 'GlobRef' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:626: error: 'FileHandle' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:627: error: 'RegexpRef' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:628: error: 'Object' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:629: error: 'ClassName' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:630: error: 'RoleName' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:695: error: 'MTC_CLASS' undeclared (first use in this function) xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:695: error: expected ')' before string constant xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:695: error: too few arguments to function 'Perl_newXS' xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:699: error: expected ')' before string constant xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:699: error: too few arguments to function 'Perl_get_sv' xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:706: error: expected ')' before string constant xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:706: error: too few arguments to function 'Perl_get_cv' xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:708: error: expected ')' before 'MTC_CLASS' xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:708: error: expected ')' before string constant xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:715: error: expected ')' before string constant xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:715: error: too few arguments to function 'Perl_get_cv' xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:717: error: expected ')' before 'MTC_CLASS' xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:717: error: expected ')' before string constant xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:724: error: expected ')' before string constant xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:724: error: too few arguments to function 'Perl_get_cv' xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:726: error: expected ')' before 'MTC_CLASS' xs-src/MouseTypeConstraints.xs:726: error: expected ')' before string constant error building xs-src/MouseUtil.o from 'xs-src/MouseUtil.c' at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/ExtUtils/CBuilder/Base.pm line 175, line 1. *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/p5-Mouse. ===> Cleaning for p5-Mouse-2.1.0,1 build of /usr/ports/devel/p5-Mouse ended at Thu Jan 23 12:41:26 UTC 2014 build time: 00:00:14 I am not the only user with this problem: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/devel-p5-Mouse-td5865703.html Any idea why this port fails to build?? Thanks. P.D: Sorry for the cross posting, but I am not sure which mailing list to choose. 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King Baghdad IRAQ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 10:49:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FE09F5F for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sh4-5.1blu.de (sh4-5.1blu.de [178.254.11.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D99C61F95 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1W6e3V-0008Ic-Hh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:32:09 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:32:09 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: restore(8) && used memory not freed-up Message-ID: <20140124103209.GA30885@sh4-5.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:49:57 -0000 Hello, I was restoring some files which I removed while updating from KDE3 to KDE4 and encountered the following interesting problem: # mount -o ro /dev/da1s1a /mnt # cd /tmp # restore -x -f /mnt/Tiny/dumpsTiny-20131025/usrLocal.dmp ./guru/.kde/share/apps/knode after the restore was finished(!) the memory in top was shown as: Mem: 535M Active, 1136M Inact, 270M Wired, 28M Cache, 90M Buf, 14M Free only the unmount of the device freed-up the memory: # umount /mnt Mem: 535M Active, 46M Inact, 192M Wired, 8104K Cache, 90M Buf, 1203M Free Why is the memory reserved by the system (10-CURRENT, i386)? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 11:01:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0863327E for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BA5E10E5 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0OB1knY091528 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:01:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0OB1kI7091525; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:01:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:01:46 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: restore(8) && used memory not freed-up In-Reply-To: <20140124103209.GA30885@sh4-5.1blu.de> Message-ID: References: <20140124103209.GA30885@sh4-5.1blu.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:01:52 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:32+0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > I was restoring some files which I removed while updating from KDE3 to > KDE4 and encountered the following interesting problem: > > # mount -o ro /dev/da1s1a /mnt > # cd /tmp > # restore -x -f /mnt/Tiny/dumpsTiny-20131025/usrLocal.dmp ./guru/.kde/share/apps/knode > > after the restore was finished(!) the memory in top was shown as: > > Mem: 535M Active, 1136M Inact, 270M Wired, 28M Cache, 90M Buf, 14M Free > > only the unmount of the device freed-up the memory: > > # umount /mnt > > Mem: 535M Active, 46M Inact, 192M Wired, 8104K Cache, 90M Buf, 1203M Free > > Why is the memory reserved by the system (10-CURRENT, i386)? I assume you're referring to the amount of inactive pages. These are freed pages ready for consumption by other processes, however their contents has not been overwritten and they can thus be reactivated without any disk activity. Once you unmounted the filesystem, the contents of these inactive pages became invalid and the pages were moved to the free list. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 12:45:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D61E0515 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA3A01892 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:45:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=Q7FMLkSTWzBcX5fgJ6McEEnk2q/9ZhHPCfsK60SYnAg=; b=Hq973+gMTG2aZ6OrYthNRoP9kY/Wub0jA57uXybRFpyrXfRN7iZsEkAu5+1wQg/5s63vpE5lgj2jzf3YJToF6tFc2nJZoXwMLIOCzeEI9taps0DAyzc8/ICOEiX1VEbHHcLPnhgbfk4ZEdQRjis3jLJLAyR/aLZsYspMEN9XPio=; Received: from [39.192.214.26] (port=48999 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W6g8b-003IOd-7J; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 05:45:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:45:23 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: coretemp0: critical temperature detected, suggest system shutdown Message-ID: <20140124204523.5ff8e368@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <52E1731A.1020005@dreamchaser.org> References: <20140123223803.3b02c179@X220.alogt.com> <52E1731A.1020005@dreamchaser.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:45:40 -0000 Hi, On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:52:58 -0700 Gary Aitken wrote: > On 01/23/14 07:38, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > I have seen today for the first time above's message in messages. > > > > This happened when I compiled some ports. It is normal that the CPU > > get then some 96 degrees. > > I had this problem some time ago. > I ended up replacing the stock fan on my system with a better one. > However, a good cleaning of the system may remove enough dust, > cobwebs, etc. and promote better airflow and thereby solve the > problem. this is not the problem. The machine has still the same temperatures as at the beginning. Only the message appeared with the update. It was always normal that the CPU went up to 96 Celsius the moment I was compiling the kernel or some larger ports. It does not get hotter now. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 15:26:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2F5124F; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x22b.google.com (mail-qa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D2EF1822; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id o15so4023912qap.2 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:26:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2CK5KoqGn8gNvL4ebyJyAy7yvyJZsPz38YcGPMHJmpo=; 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Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.235.80 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:30:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20140123150005.0665e0c8@mail.computinginnovations.com> References: <6.0.0.22.2.20140123150005.0665e0c8@mail.computinginnovations.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:30:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.2 won't boot without a video console under KVM From: David Tenney To: Derek Ragona Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:30:54 -0000 Thanks for the info Derek! Unfortunately, I still receive the same crash from KVM. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Derek Ragona < derek@computinginnovations.com> wrote: > At 01:06 PM 1/23/2014, David Tenney wrote: > > I'm trying to run a FreeBSD 9.2 64-bit installation under KVM, but am > having issues when I remove the video hardware and install a serial console > connection. The installation boots just fine when video/Cirrus hardware is > provided to the virtual machine, but once it is removed, the installation > stops at the BTX loader and causes KVM to go into Paused mode, which cannot > be returned to Running. Here is a list of adjustments that were made to > configuration files: > > /etc/ttys: > > ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > > /boot/defaults/loader.conf: > > console="comconsole" > > /boot.config: > > echo "-hP" > /boot.config > > Any help would be great. Thanks! > > -- > David > > > > I have systems setup to do serial and regular consoles. In my setup I > access the serial console over lan via ipmitool. > > In loader.conf I have > comsole="comconsole,vidconsole" > comconsole_speed="115200" > boot_multicons="YES" > boot_serial="YES" > > Along with some hint.uart settings such as: > hint.uart.2.baud="115200" > hint.uart.2.port="0x3e8" > hint.uart.2.irq="10" > hint.uart.2.flags="0x10" > > -Derek > > ------------------------------ > > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:33:02 -0000 Hi all, Running FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p7 and attempting to upgrade to 10.0-RELEASE via freebsd-update as instructed at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/installation.html has resulted in errors during the automatic merge that occurs during "freebsd-update upgrade -r 10.0-RELEASE". The results are many merges that could not occur mainly due to the CVS version lines despite having /etc/mergemaster.rc setup. Here is the contents of the config file: /*** /etc/mergemaster.rc ***/ root@iese-bsd100-dev:~ # cat /etc/mergemaster.rc # Automatically install files that do not exist AUTO_INSTALL='yes' # Automatically upgrade files that have not been edited AUTO_UPGRADE='yes' # Ignore files that I don't want changed IGNORE_FILES='/etc/motd' # Do not display changes that only affect whitespace DIFF_FLAG="'.Bub'" # Ignore CVS id lines to stop replacing files where only that line has changed DIFF_OPTIONS='-I$FreeBSD:.*[$]' /*** /etc/mergemaster.rc ***/ I have tried different variations of DIFF_FLAG, "'-Bub'", and DIFF_OPTIONS, '-I $FreeBSD:.*[$]', both of which resulted in the same behavior. Based on threads I've read in the archives and a couple posts on the forums, this seems correct. Wondering if anyone has any thoughts and/or suggestions? -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 17:13:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFF7D4D9 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x234.google.com (mail-wg0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8469D13B8 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id b13so3304209wgh.7 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:13:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RGpXuXJFEfdZhQvLqvqW95C2a1it0XXG1lBOlmh4t2Y=; b=BXnp/SoV4CWZijwR103m2UCkinmIWjNE5neIDTzgrLFisaJ1A3xAMtMu9xxQEg7A8e koPrcYEWvFhdJK9v5olNkYvyGPt3U2j4cGCk3gE/jHOIvg91OJhMbWQ19vTcqwVkE5lL tJAdh0qSDPaguPj5xUP9AYR9Z/gVfN8HiRNfn6IMiSUJGh2y4vP1LKrfNMgBKjq+zSqc Cjbl1az+cSVv156OVtFZoIFGAGF2z9Q07cRUNeRprciO8AWwzIQ2Stk6xxAQmr8ZahLW A1o+tPgkQ37TehUAKrE9UQ1708x8+flgxIxRXfa4RxTsz5PNR46LdniXQHO2NVrnzUFh ZDdA== X-Received: by 10.180.90.37 with SMTP id bt5mr3921805wib.43.1390583599659; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-112-13.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.112.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uq2sm3603981wjc.5.2014.01.24.09.13.17 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:13:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:13:17 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update automerge ignoring mergemaster.rc? Message-ID: <20140124171317.35574e28@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:13:22 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:33:01 -0500 Rick Miller wrote: > The results are many merges that could not occur mainly due to the CVS > version lines despite having /etc/mergemaster.rc setup. Here is the > contents of the config file: freebsd-update doesn't use mergemaster. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 17:23:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9C636E5; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE43C14D2; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.191]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0OHNhiB005803 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:23:43 -0600 Received: from THEMADHATTER (10.242.181.54) by smarthost.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.191) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:23:41 -0600 From: Sender: Devin Teske To: "'Warren Block'" , "'Devin Teske'" References: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> <04aa01cf187e$cfcf9ef0$6f6edcd0$@FreeBSD.org> <04d201cf1895$20956890$61c039b0$@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: awk programming question Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:23:36 -0800 Message-ID: <050a01cf1929$051c0670$0f541350$@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQImboywfYAMtXakWRoTJ2P0ROJwWwJr8ryGAjfseSYDBtd9AwHDspKgAVvTlWgA1aCjmwLA5WZtAnzeO/eZXodP0A== Content-Language: en-us X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-24_04:2014-01-24,2014-01-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: 'RW' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:23:45 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Warren Block [mailto:wblock@wonkity.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:23 PM > To: 'Devin Teske' > Cc: 'RW'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: awk programming question > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > >> No, the non-greedy modifier to a standard quantifier: > >> > >> echo "abczabczabcz" | perl -ne '/(a.*z)/; print "$1\n"' > >> abczabczabcz > >> > >> echo "abczabczabcz" | perl -ne '/(a.*?z)/; print "$1\n"' > >> abcz > > > > Craziness! Wonder when that crept in. > > I've been using it for at least a decade, so it's probably been around at least > twice that long. ...So probably came out about twenty years after the sed > and awk feature sets were frozen. :) > > > I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that -- in terms of > > readability, I'm not sure if the following is more readable: > > > > /(a[^z]*z)/ > > Wait till you see the other PCRE stuff. There are lots of things that really > make it much more powerful. perlre(1) covers it all, sketchily and not really > in order. > > I've said elsewhere, and will repeat again: "Mastering Regular Expressions" > by Jeffrey E. F. Friedl (the owl book) is amazing. My first edition (1997) does > not have some of the newer Perl stuff, but it's now up to a third edition: > > http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596528126.do Does it cover "back references" ? Definitely one of the more powerful but esoteric regular expressions (e.g., you want to match a string that starts with a quote and has a matching terminating quote, but not match a string that has a quote without matching termination). If-so, I'm totally buying that book. -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 17:34:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFB01CD8; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BA1C16E6; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0OHYl9L089233; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:34:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0OHYlL0089230; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:34:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:34:47 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "'Devin Teske'" Subject: RE: awk programming question In-Reply-To: <050a01cf1929$051c0670$0f541350$@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> <04aa01cf187e$cfcf9ef0$6f6edcd0$@FreeBSD.org> <04d201cf1895$20956890$61c039b0$@FreeBSD.org> <050a01cf1929$051c0670$0f541350$@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:34:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: 'RW' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:34:48 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: >>> I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that -- in terms of >>> readability, I'm not sure if the following is more readable: >>> >>> /(a[^z]*z)/ >> >> Wait till you see the other PCRE stuff. There are lots of things >> that really make it much more powerful. perlre(1) covers it all, >> sketchily and not really in order. >> >> I've said elsewhere, and will repeat again: "Mastering Regular >> Expressions" by Jeffrey E. F. Friedl (the owl book) is amazing. My >> first edition (1997) does not have some of the newer Perl stuff, but >> it's now up to a third edition: >> >> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596528126.do > > Does it cover "back references" ? Definitely one of the more powerful > but esoteric regular expressions (e.g., you want to match a string > that starts with a quote and has a matching terminating quote, but not > match a string that has a quote without matching termination). It does cover backreferences, in the sense of egrep: \<[A-Za-z]+) +\1\> That will find a word followed by one or more spaces and the same word again. > If-so, I'm totally buying that book. Buy it. I've never seen another book that treats such a complex subject with such clarity and readability. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 17:36:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 991D7DAA for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09C1F1706 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0OHaDov013804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:36:24 GMT (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s0OHaDov013804 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s0OHaDov013804; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:36:00 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krad Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iPh0c7vwvcDj0tj0aHvLPK77tKtWmSuFg" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK, RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:36:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --iPh0c7vwvcDj0tj0aHvLPK77tKtWmSuFg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/24/14 15:26, krad wrote: > I feel really left out 8( You really aren't missing anything. 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[80.229.5.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v7sm8651830wix.5.2014.01.24.09.41.18 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:41:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52E2A5BD.8090400@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:41:17 +0000 From: James Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:41:21 -0000 On 24/01/2014 17:36, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 01/24/14 15:26, krad wrote: >> I feel really left out 8( > You really aren't missing anything. I't not as if she's particularly > good looking or anything. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > I had 2 more today and I haven't posted to the list. I hope they're not putting malware or the-like on our computers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 17:45:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD7D5FF1 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22d.google.com (mail-wg0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 421CE1818 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id n12so3267815wgh.0 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:45:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vc4V6pHQ8zBN8cLPlqztLdBFs6kqK5X2+jxQU581Y7A=; b=aNwAdqFjgVgIOcQqvz8EXOSfwPJNExOdkHI+Vg/qlRYGnLBzDQ6lPGwUIGIQBqtLlg C5KKOApmJhv0+vclcEtI85chIY5gkrvjs92Eqou2EY0JHfuHaA133R9X9C7cYjFwA9F1 tJefJ1SAEQqjzKZvjvQCKWVOYYryCGpCaoQt0FRFCJFK3SuLx3fFsia5HEkq44WsnWKx liiSOok5qHMjkQULvYlVO05QFxfrpiMzobclY4WQ1reRhmsj45gdSIJtzrMQl8v4pgMR kj8kL2jx5pH5lJDPQ8dK/CosE6PS5py/ou7gtANEnLKfY6MYk18GlAHMJVRcQnpz4dgu 7g4A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.185.113 with SMTP id fb17mr11586184wjc.29.1390585516597; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.22.5 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:45:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52E2A5BD.8090400@gmail.com> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> <52E2A5BD.8090400@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:45:16 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list From: iamatt To: James Griffin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:45:18 -0000 I get these emails as well. I searched the interwebs for my address and topics but did not see any. Wondering if there is a rogue bot signed up to the lists? Anyway almost to the point of unsubscribing from the list. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:41 AM, James Griffin wrote: > > On 24/01/2014 17:36, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> On 01/24/14 15:26, krad wrote: >> >>> I feel really left out 8( >>> >> You really aren't missing anything. I't not as if she's particularly >> good looking or anything. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> >> I had 2 more today and I haven't posted to the list. I hope they're not > putting malware or the-like on our computers. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 18:04:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37B9276B for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2D2519AF for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W6l7Z-0000sn-Le for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:04:49 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:04:49 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:04:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> <52E2A5BD.8090400@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net User-Agent: XPN/1.2.6 (Street Spirit ; Linux) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:04:58 -0000 iamatt wrote: > I get these emails as well. I searched the interwebs for my address and > topics but did not see any. Wondering if there is a rogue bot signed up to > the lists? Anyway almost to the point of unsubscribing from the list. > I read the list in a newsreader via gmane.os.freebsd.questions. No problems here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 18:20:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99F63D74 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x229.google.com (mail-wg0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CBE31AC5 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id n12so2166975wgh.2 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:20:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ubIB6iOIEzDBcviy2lIsyFzk19gxj6z/ZlBWAubHEkg=; b=ELTi78ofEFgE7SAY7G/fG69c0vPVjhH+usgIprziXqHaivEi+XbOTjDrl069ezdthk Id7QcPBwIfRoGLfkTwT+21QoRuBGz9+aPWLFBiCy25bSoOBLaBgmkNdA6r/n2WJmMeM2 RK592Z83qMwBud1tv2japjo4zypp9rxaINtW9Ep1UhG3MYUvPPh/2PptXLBHXfEAVKaH Z7s3+eKzMOrGhhyX2bWkoirFsZ5MLXts+QnnoJbUutbsH6g2x3jGYaNfR1Mup4NQEr3K KL/6Z+TeZiYIlELm8vLoeMoUBV2EveVpjGE8oXKfQC1dsWzemAUm4EsQd+xdjw+ufs/v yN8A== X-Received: by 10.194.78.141 with SMTP id b13mr11621838wjx.32.1390587654031; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (105.33.91.91.rev.sfr.net. [91.91.33.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ev4sm7626468wib.1.2014.01.24.10.20.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:20:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52E2AF02.9020005@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:20:50 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> <52E2A5BD.8090400@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <52E2A5BD.8090400@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:20:56 -0000 On 24/01/2014 18:41, James Griffin wrote: > > On 24/01/2014 17:36, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 01/24/14 15:26, krad wrote: >>> I feel really left out 8( >> You really aren't missing anything. I't not as if she's particularly >> good looking or anything. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> > I had 2 more today and I haven't posted to the list. I hope they're not > putting malware or the-like on our computers. No worries if you are running FreeBSD :-). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 18:34:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2646846C for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-057.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F2C71D0F for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i7-quad-PC.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-142.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.142]) by mail.computinginnovations.com (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0OIYWSn092663; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:34:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20140124121411.05e73350@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:31:37 -0600 To: David Tenney From: Derek Ragona Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.2 won't boot without a video console under KVM In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.0.22.2.20140123150005.0665e0c8@mail.computinginnovations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140124-0, 01/24/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-computinginnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-computinginnovations-MailScanner-ID: s0OIYWSn092663 X-computinginnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-computinginnovations-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.889, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, T_REMOTE_IMAGE 0.01) X-computinginnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:34:40 -0000 At 09:30 AM 1/24/2014, David Tenney wrote: >Thanks for the info Derek! > >Unfortunately, I still receive the same crash from KVM. > > >On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Derek Ragona < >derek@computinginnovations.com> wrote: > > > At 01:06 PM 1/23/2014, David Tenney wrote: > > > > I'm trying to run a FreeBSD 9.2 64-bit installation under KVM, but am > > having issues when I remove the video hardware and install a serial console > > connection. The installation boots just fine when video/Cirrus hardware is > > provided to the virtual machine, but once it is removed, the installation > > stops at the BTX loader and causes KVM to go into Paused mode, which cannot > > be returned to Running. Here is a list of adjustments that were made to > > configuration files: > > > > /etc/ttys: > > > > ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > > > > /boot/defaults/loader.conf: > > > > console="comconsole" > > > > /boot.config: > > > > echo "-hP" > /boot.config > > > > Any help would be great. Thanks! > > > > -- > > David > > > > > > > > I have systems setup to do serial and regular consoles. In my setup I > > access the serial console over lan via ipmitool. > > > > In loader.conf I have > > comsole="comconsole,vidconsole" > > comconsole_speed="115200" > > boot_multicons="YES" > > boot_serial="YES" > > > > Along with some hint.uart settings such as: > > hint.uart.2.baud="115200" > > hint.uart.2.port="0x3e8" > > hint.uart.2.irq="10" > > hint.uart.2.flags="0x10" > > > > -Derek > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! > Antivirusprotection is active. > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > > believed to be clean. > > David, I'm not sure what hardware you are using. In my case I have supermicro motherboards with dedicated IPMI ports. I do need to do some BIOS setup for the console redirection. Have you tried booting single user, without acpi, or one of the others? If one of those boots, you may get some idea. If not you might boot a live cd and check the crash dump. -Derek --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 18:48:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FE1773B for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 276971DF1 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.235] (helo=tiny-r255948) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1W6lnY-00031t-BK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:48:13 +0100 Received: from tiny-r255948 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s0OImBHY000974 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:48:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3/Submit) id s0OImAVW000973 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:48:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny-r255948: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:48:10 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list Message-ID: <20140124184810.GB927@tiny-r255948> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> <52E2A5BD.8090400@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r235646 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.235 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:48:15 -0000 El día Friday, January 24, 2014 a las 06:04:26PM +0000, Walter Hurry escribió: > iamatt wrote: > > > I get these emails as well. I searched the interwebs for my address and > > topics but did not see any. Wondering if there is a rogue bot signed up to > > the lists? Anyway almost to the point of unsubscribing from the list. > > > I read the list in a newsreader via gmane.os.freebsd.questions. No problems here. I get the list as mails and I see only your complains about the issue, not the SPAM itself (and I do not run any SpamAssassin). And I'm posting frecuently. Do I miss something not seeing her? :-) matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz, , http://www.unixarea.de/ f: +49-170-4527211 UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 18:51:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 124AD8CC for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0ACD1E29 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.235] (helo=tiny-r255948) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1W6lqG-0004Cv-No; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:51:01 +0100 Received: from tiny-r255948 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s0OIoxQ5000984; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:50:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny-r255948 (8.14.7/8.14.3/Submit) id s0OIowWk000983; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:50:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny-r255948: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:50:58 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: David Demelier Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list Message-ID: <20140124185058.GC927@tiny-r255948> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> <52E2A5BD.8090400@gmail.com> <52E2AF02.9020005@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <52E2AF02.9020005@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r235646 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.235 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:51:03 -0000 El día Friday, January 24, 2014 a las 07:20:50PM +0100, David Demelier escribió: > > I had 2 more today and I haven't posted to the list. I hope they're not > > putting malware or the-like on our computers. > > No worries if you are running FreeBSD :-). Even a FreeBSD could have been lifted up into a VM and is now running on top of malware doing its bad work. matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz, , http://www.unixarea.de/ f: +49-170-4527211 UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 19:48:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 655B0986 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A1681253 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id s0OJlsvx000340; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:47:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <52E2C36A.3070306@dreamchaser.org> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:47:54 -0700 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: coretemp0: critical temperature detected, suggest system shutdown References: <20140123223803.3b02c179@X220.alogt.com> <52E1731A.1020005@dreamchaser.org> <20140124204523.5ff8e368@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20140124204523.5ff8e368@X220.alogt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:47:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:48:03 -0000 On 01/24/14 05:45, Erich Dollansky wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:52:58 -0700 > Gary Aitken wrote: >> On 01/23/14 07:38, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> >>> I have seen today for the first time above's message in messages. >>> >>> This happened when I compiled some ports. It is normal that the CPU >>> get then some 96 degrees. >> >> I had this problem some time ago. >> I ended up replacing the stock fan on my system with a better one. >> However, a good cleaning of the system may remove enough dust, >> cobwebs, etc. and promote better airflow and thereby solve the >> problem. > > this is not the problem. The machine has still the same temperatures as > at the beginning. Only the message appeared with the update. > > It was always normal that the CPU went up to 96 Celsius the moment I was > compiling the kernel or some larger ports. It does not get hotter now. Sorry, I misunderstood the original question. Unfortunately, I can't help you there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 21:47:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 978FDB76 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com (mail-pa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7120C1B6D for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id kx10so3720351pab.7 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:47:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=klzktRSymh5lqaODSxsKNJtv9oa46dlKn65KAJK8ivU=; b=dFUejCwUN4tp8zOU67A64x+811ku4gWoB1wEXvnX8Q8WCuMVJaX+VGf6gDPYJPXFEI EKidapb51NAaIxm+RplE6UMLuumS4osv7VXlCAntmLLjH4UIn43BtHxC4Lp6PXrbJ0Mi nZUJ7DppV/4iZhtwiQmXxixQ39CaUv/iuiUrGe7k9sjfuob0dbSZjh+N9yx4rk8ktaF6 BYV0Q9CfHlrDvvGG+Uem3Jc4XWN4RuMVDc6T38s4kZp1+qXf9moGXBA99QZlHdFGdWSV EJF0ev8og84orz/iDwFIUz/gp2PwFFDueY4itSXyHVK4mGZ/TFKhZNqcEQs1XBryQF2g 4U/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.233.71 with SMTP id tu7mr16655355pac.22.1390600073033; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.90.138 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:47:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:47:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Unable to boot on USB key on Lenovo Thinkpad T440 From: Kata Goto To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:47:53 -0000 Hello all, I recently (this week), recieved a Lenovo Thinkpad T440 and I want to install FreeBSD, so I have disabled the secure boot and force the legacy boot mode only. Then I have downloaded an USB image and write it via $ dd if=FreeBSD-9.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=64k (I also tried with 10.0-RELEASE) And my laptop refuses to boot on it, even if I force to boot on it (via ). My USB key works well on other computers (they boot on it) and my laptop boots well on an Ubuntu USB key. I have also tried to boot on an external CD Drive, but nothing change :/ I am running out of ideas. If you have the same issue or new ideas, please, let me know. In advance, Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 21:56:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36857F44 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com (mail-oa0-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F21CD1D2C for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id n16so4399586oag.37 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:56:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=f0+RHELUM6Cn1aNAOLT835yn0XS8dHfo7pDQZ3exALA=; b=FplSKk8zNLUFB/c6+hZBllzKElj334tAszqBPW6sY1jD2VDAskfruLJtRYJ0IqeEsF pdvUivlnHTP8KorBRM7lHp+1SkT+BAl320xoTxKCsh+X4rmtXfCojWyw7owhoLoVQqQj mdppixXRrxQ2K2oUl7xptbCn8YpmNW7hE+G2ue50HPHRb2FGTfG3Cn5URRHLPLzbcOiS +IHLXAQD//ILm8zisWargu56aDnBhy+tV3XaYc37Ex2s3XpaiStKgL2i6cUe+1ZNtzoI NseOpF/yyJFC7Ny12qAONXcWxOWmH2VrERw8zseITebzDUC11CoUQRbHH5lg/3wxZpTo eDrA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmyQ0JqwqqoYtamEEQTZ4AYsmhspQaiPKCcB2Q/xcBRdIOBpRQHa8XobM3Cy9PGoo69cFGb MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.81.197 with SMTP id c5mr14169774oby.40.1390600579964; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:56:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.21.8 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:56:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:56:19 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unable to boot on USB key on Lenovo Thinkpad T440 From: Michael Sierchio To: Kata Goto Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:56:21 -0000 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Kata Goto wrote: > Hello all, > > I recently (this week), recieved a Lenovo Thinkpad T440 and I want to > install FreeBSD, so I have disabled the secure boot and force the legacy > boot mode only. > Then I have downloaded an USB image and write it via > $ dd if=FreeBSD-9.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=64k > > (I also tried with 10.0-RELEASE) > And my laptop refuses to boot on it, even if I force to boot on it (via > ). > My USB key works well on other computers (they boot on it) and my laptop > boots well on an Ubuntu USB key. > I have also tried to boot on an external CD Drive, but nothing change :/ It's my experience that not all USB sticks are bootable. I tend to use the low profile SanDisk models, which are. - M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 22:27:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1C9ED07 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22c.google.com (mail-pa0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 970871F55 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id kq14so3789392pab.3 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:27:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8BcVh0tPIODEhRMGzU4mr1nn5WaUMG7rMl0L2xRIk9U=; b=qj9XE7EUySqbheRSDnj/Wb635gZZ3seNYqjB837BMz13U2jBtosvoDHyAn1+GMEQzQ ndNXB6Cs1wy/2VHkeFVQBBZwtAz92OVBpIg4bW55GwIMsZad6Fkm5mA5/IIGe7ZQ+jKg Ryzvjzf/3AYWpmvcZd6C2uAAohDyu0eYAisrWCgKlBsZDX2bddz7waiweIKp4BUo0UFp 6hJg7vruv6o5wTLUvmY96aiRlmFpTiEjg1NfcnZeic4GNSd+x0p6VGWxGxNM3LWJts1m 5pwQYRq4MeuYhWlUCWTRgn0uEp/IMvbCsLwWjt1Ipa2QJ7dbKkwtf/Kqfqk++WIOdV3Z oIbQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.219.202 with SMTP id pq10mr16808460pbc.23.1390602455920; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.90.138 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:27:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:27:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unable to boot on USB key on Lenovo Thinkpad T440 From: Kata Goto To: Michael Sierchio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:27:36 -0000 2014/1/24 Michael Sierchio > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Kata Goto > wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I recently (this week), recieved a Lenovo Thinkpad T440 and I want to > > install FreeBSD, so I have disabled the secure boot and force the legacy > > boot mode only. > > Then I have downloaded an USB image and write it via > > $ dd if=FreeBSD-9.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=64k > > > > (I also tried with 10.0-RELEASE) > > And my laptop refuses to boot on it, even if I force to boot on it (via > > ). > > My USB key works well on other computers (they boot on it) and my laptop > > boots well on an Ubuntu USB key. > > I have also tried to boot on an external CD Drive, but nothing change :/ > > It's my experience that not all USB sticks are bootable. I tend to > use the low profile SanDisk models, which are. > > - M > Thanks for your answer, I have tried 5 different USB sticks and they don't work in my laptop but they work on other computers, if they were not bootable, they should not boot on other computers, should they? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 24 23:02:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 953E1B59 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-f46.google.com (mail-pb0-f46.google.com [209.85.160.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 634011202 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id um1so3746576pbc.19 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:01:59 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:mail-followup-to:date:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=+Ka2i5Lm39MEoh1KU00ISGzqHUL8Wk9TG0I5B4PS7Es=; b=eMa7mpU2J8K8TCmFQ2mJ3Xqs5CFF8Fk0aycv6D29w7AE6u9E6f2q0F+mMuRhJQI+wR OpNCXEGO4nOz17dIIcSF6goRzYwrcSA1SFnBpqiOX6x0dnz3xociPw0l8NpICMzpOe6A 5Jwlb0yrob4htQVrcllHj8X2Qe9uRnqVY2cLeFP6DaKxzs1fViIHto75bqbisXtpQcRQ dZ/nJz6HbVyhc5hsd4dQg3ugeMAOBiTO5omln5eodT3N1+CNLs6y59NsE6iym+ql2FBB sy18EFhlg9UZtT2olzUFgDqXfzU+MJYgICOrzkXWfDHxJsEOH8++VvdeTqVjUMI3+NNw d44A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnEUSKXjA0uNYqeoEZIDdi/vcShfd0cUVcjUG/Iv53bhVoTIlI5mrmWQTtzyNP+ZmaZb6WB X-Received: by 10.66.226.46 with SMTP id rp14mr16743019pac.133.1390604519523; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from birch.localnet ([207.55.103.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kk1sm6692088pbd.22.2014.01.24.15.01.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [192.168.193.34]) by birch.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E8955E22 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:01:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FA9BD5F for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:01:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s0ON1u0F039877; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:01:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Where is ruby ri documentation? Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:01:56 -0800 Message-ID: <87ob313rx7.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:02:00 -0000 I am trying out a 10.0-RELEASE installation, but when I tried to look at ruby documentation with ri it doesn't find anything. I try 'ri String' and it just says 'Nothing known about String'. There is some documentation for ri, but only what has been installed by various gems. I have looked but I don't see where it has been split out into a separate port. I have installed ruby-1.9.3.484,1 using pkg, if that makes any difference. Thanks for any information. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 00:45:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 464B729B; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B1A519E7; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:45:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=HiUiXaXaWC6tzLOK22Pf+F4qUGnIK147hN3W/RpsFH8=; b=mgs00gPby+tvpWWwb4GHOLK5M3SizD8oBo0JSt8+3SAEchSw5+k7WzMpFQQyPwpRL6fC6tkTM3hjyR66nQxD88esfTHrd0EJotBdbXjm9j1HUZa6iz90BpXfx4+f18F2kE64eF1/3U3n4MXZ8r27oOMv+aDsLKt9LVMWp7CykjQ=; Received: from [39.209.120.9] (port=33905 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W6rN0-000Xt1-6W; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:45:11 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:45:02 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list Message-ID: <20140125084502.28bfc155@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: FreeBSD Questions , krad X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:45:12 -0000 i, On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:36:00 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 01/24/14 15:26, krad wrote: > > I feel really left out 8( > > You really aren't missing anything. I't not as if she's particularly > good looking or anything. she must be working in dental care as she has three tooth brushes in use. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 00:52:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF1DA6A4 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 944781A80 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:52:00 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=eKWp5I9sTVxzB+V81qh+AbDrxbtzOcTvMNt3/KEFgD8=; b=UpC3KJSOgQgYnznJX5lko2kJni3JAUZ3dhRo6P4Yv2hYnfteIIILNiorBHa9Bw1+OMYWfoYR8ZDqtiFu8gtnNJiMEsLz0CruW9naqhOMRhKJCwPcaJcJWcw94EpoSU3WplaNtTCY+fU/o773D6kP4BAx2iRJ3dODq5BU0XDhPak=; Received: from [39.209.120.9] (port=10555 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W6rTa-000ba9-4X; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:51:59 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:51:50 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list Message-ID: <20140125085150.0ba19696@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20140124184810.GB927@tiny-r255948> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> <52E2A5BD.8090400@gmail.com> <20140124184810.GB927@tiny-r255948> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:52:00 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:48:10 +0100 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Friday, January 24, 2014 a las 06:04:26PM +0000, Walter Hurry > escribi=F3: >=20 > > iamatt wrote: > >=20 > > > I get these emails as well. I searched the interwebs for my > > > address and topics but did not see any. Wondering if there is a > > > rogue bot signed up to the lists? Anyway almost to the point of > > > unsubscribing from the list. > > > > > I read the list in a newsreader via gmane.os.freebsd.questions. No > > problems here. >=20 > I get the list as mails and I see only your complains about the issue, > not the SPAM itself (and I do not run any SpamAssassin). And I'm > posting frecuently. >=20 it seems that a bot is registered to the list and answers randomly e-mails posted here. I was affected until I reported to the owner of the SMTP server used to send the e-mail to the list. > Do I miss something not seeing her? :-) She uses three tooth brushes. I could imagine that she works in dental care. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 00:58:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EECEB927 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4C1E1AB1 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:58:37 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=6Cx43m3JgMmJXAek8HyM6VV0n5A2WyCwWCSeK8N9BCM=; b=crbzAqRTUZ63DRs9A7ylCl+s24fpyc6/tuk5RE4u/3csavj5SdTsuX2Qp1ZSKZpIjOxHr6H/aFCKzOimKy2sdllguEgcrEn/rqWttSCshAtDtwkqi/7n/Y259q9EssY0vxL+/cIqEYn0I07q3QW91bBIZYC42aweejaOS1pl60M=; Received: from [39.209.120.9] (port=54299 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W6rZy-000eNx-V1; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:58:36 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:58:26 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Kata Goto Subject: Re: Unable to boot on USB key on Lenovo Thinkpad T440 Message-ID: <20140125085826.692bccc0@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Michael Sierchio , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:58:38 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:27:35 +0100 Kata Goto wrote: > 2014/1/24 Michael Sierchio > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Kata Goto > > wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I recently (this week), recieved a Lenovo Thinkpad T440 and I > > > want to install FreeBSD, so I have disabled the secure boot and > > > force the legacy boot mode only. > > > Then I have downloaded an USB image and write it via > > > $ dd if=FreeBSD-9.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 > > > bs=64k > > > > > > (I also tried with 10.0-RELEASE) > > > And my laptop refuses to boot on it, even if I force to boot on > > > it (via ). > > > My USB key works well on other computers (they boot on it) and my > > > laptop boots well on an Ubuntu USB key. > > > I have also tried to boot on an external CD Drive, but nothing > > > change :/ > > > > It's my experience that not all USB sticks are bootable. I tend to > > use the low profile SanDisk models, which are. > > > > - M > > > > Thanks for your answer, > > I have tried 5 different USB sticks and they don't work in my > laptop but they work on other computers, if they were not bootable, > they should not boot on other computers, should they? my ThinkPad is also very picky about this. I never tried 10 from a flash drive but only from CD which worked. What OS is currently running on the machine? In what stage does it stop? I assume you see it as an option via F12 but then nothing happens when you select it. True? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 01:05:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1841BD51 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E42731C90 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:05:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=lfN0iFCjweS5Ule16McdY0a4XEdH0VfznRcJseGm4BM=; b=Hea6LENHjW4WUQIuVWlCAqt95FDNxNSoqJFJ3FStNStKj9Ul3WRQyENQCQiLeV8Kn3nsoGtme8hbMFwhzraHyV92KmpRnJdW/CiwHNVzhR1iLnhWMEgnX3LtJp7msoXOcWgvKKtKBGC0mdZLEbCvvbUFHUhoLmkywAeMSOiT8JI=; Received: from [39.209.120.9] (port=43612 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W6rh5-000iHI-9t; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:05:56 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:05:47 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: coretemp0: critical temperature detected, suggest system shutdown Message-ID: <20140125090547.2120ffcd@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <52E2C36A.3070306@dreamchaser.org> References: <20140123223803.3b02c179@X220.alogt.com> <52E1731A.1020005@dreamchaser.org> <20140124204523.5ff8e368@X220.alogt.com> <52E2C36A.3070306@dreamchaser.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:05:58 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:47:54 -0700 Gary Aitken wrote: > On 01/24/14 05:45, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:52:58 -0700 > > Gary Aitken wrote: > >> On 01/23/14 07:38, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >> > >>> I have seen today for the first time above's message in messages. > >>> > >>> This happened when I compiled some ports. It is normal that the > >>> CPU get then some 96 degrees. > >> > >> I had this problem some time ago. > >> I ended up replacing the stock fan on my system with a better one. > >> However, a good cleaning of the system may remove enough dust, > >> cobwebs, etc. and promote better airflow and thereby solve the > >> problem. > > > > this is not the problem. The machine has still the same > > temperatures as at the beginning. Only the message appeared with > > the update. > > > > It was always normal that the CPU went up to 96 Celsius the moment > > I was compiling the kernel or some larger ports. It does not get > > hotter now. > > Sorry, I misunderstood the original question. > Unfortunately, I can't help you there. I just ignore the messages then. I just wonder why nobody else get them. Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 01:07:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7B72FA2 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4DC1CAA for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:07:43 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version; b=a9CYM1FoNTS1fw+YFpTHfn7DQwW6OqY68zJqFJIEm1ZJnPnSQ9OtFEGA9puPWsCket9zSqyXfifK rmmTGmUxz7Ak2OGStXJGv5r4omq34/cHjvqqpxrKo8Lyumom962/ Received: from [10.1.2.6] (46.229.54.117 [46.229.54.117]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1390612062440227.41375424837236; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:07:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Where is ruby ri documentation? From: clutton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <87ob313rx7.fsf@oak.localnet> References: <87ob313rx7.fsf@oak.localnet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-D5++Q4vNU+MkA85Ia85W" Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:07:38 +0200 Message-ID: <1390612058.1846.85.camel@eva02> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Zoho-Virus-Status: 1 X-ZohoMail: Ss SS_10 UW UB UW UB ZMHF-MSGIDDMNPTN_1 SGR3_1_16014_33 X-ZohoMail-Owner: <1390612058.1846.85.camel@eva02>+zmo_0_ X-ZohoMail-Sender: 46.229.54.117 X-ZohoMailClient: External X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:07:43 -0000 --=-D5++Q4vNU+MkA85Ia85W Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 15:01 -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: > documentation for ri, but only what has been installed by various > gems. Hm, it may be built with OPTIONS_UNSET+=3D DOCS. Please post output from `pkg info ruby-your-ruby-version` here. --=-D5++Q4vNU+MkA85Ia85W Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJS4w5aAAoJECNkWbjnbjuiChkQAKeya+R9JVTWS59Y7bM3bdN/ QLI1SSsWb+ONMEn0DCSestUOVAPz2AdddnRPOgPYECnnqjS2MWpeCM6ObMqUVVPL KxgrzCce7THpmS74cBZe90xeUIAhV4THEUBDALcgEF52+BlG6nizs48/mkECWr8v NrHPjMSf9CQNPfTASG8GD8Owedoun6PWz2EjsNJ/VdqSbNf9k7p7u2ghqqzWHJzQ BUw9dr7Pw7qfpYjFdoYmhzXtyXvtJIGmRA+0e5slTq63W4IDXffe0GErizb4l1Di Oc+ZpP4odzxcy4PbUlZFlmctSWwAuZSzzRay20nTewYlN3FxNK2gClQCRqE7GeA+ JGcoJTDwifMom3v51QyE1K5gNEL+jCIuAzIKM/eye7EWHYOybD5q3MgWcS2rfSbE 9e/Oryr1dwSMpCwDBOOhEzuXlkfEWPIf/crv1/zsrcDhKr32GpQPpHTUiWujmuRz M0jbJbCGJrh7VDGBNTcwp0TiOATYXvm/ZmUWdpYQtYiIzkAVoOi2YTtaaps5G711 2ka3muBAe5JC5mv3jOKv7nzEyp4y1CZn8TWagAlz0Heh8SfGNesHTX+b8ikdmP+H y/Y7Hk26A4W2xa6ItauGHCshx9vJ78fXWCDL67fTEDcueFbkO1Xe+Qg5RYJki4dt 98LgwxRnydxYfLNa+dHE =bPt3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-D5++Q4vNU+MkA85Ia85W-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 01:26:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68F467F0 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (e.febed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.254.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10A251E42 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0P1PpE5016777 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:25:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:24:45 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Recommendations for wiki software? Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:26:37 -0000 Hello list, I'm looking to run a small wiki on my home server, for use by the far-flung family. Can anyone recommend something in ports that might be suitable? Ideally I'd like something relatively lightweight, with no overly heinous demands on either server and client. On the server side, it would be nice not to have to deal with perl. FOSS preferred, of course, as is a BSD or Apache license, although I can choke down GPL if need be. The server is currently running 8.1-RELEASE, but will be upgraded to 10.0-RELEASE soon-ish. The hardware is relatively modern, but no hot rod: CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz (2527.02-MHz 686-class CPU). Thanks. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 01:43:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8317A99 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E3FF1F7B for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 48002 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2014 01:43:22 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2014 01:43:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=52e316ba.xn--btvx9d.k1401; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=hpNkF81EOqK850F+Y6xsmYr2OFEnO243fI4KjPGBcYM=; b=LCSyjH9uDkeaZAmdYNrYlm+9Tqr+m3ehccFZb8Cg26ReQIyoxCuJ3PEy5h2vTvtvx1gR+UPKHSEKThOM6Wd7p4un09vQjuFtkdMWGr95/H1mM3S89pWV9KP8tkH/CEJzzK0TN2bvP31YDKNMXYCNciDsOrlhLM5vu6uLyyhVZIbYVMPSw1LPqUf/zEpDTjKchjAuZ3RJRZIQJa/Xie9+o4fgFCC4XhHJ2xshyqDnf3b4M28SYlUpE00GBK+/+wCe Date: 25 Jan 2014 01:43:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20140125014300.84363.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendations for wiki software? In-Reply-To: Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:43:25 -0000 >I'm looking to run a small wiki on my home server, for use by the >far-flung family. Can anyone recommend something in ports that might be >suitable? I use mediawiki for a bunch of wikis. It's written in PHP (tell me about it) but is surprisingly easy to set up and manage. You do need a database. It's supposed to work with sqlite but everyone uses mysql. For my low-traffic wikis, the load has always been too low to notice. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 01:59:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0EF7D22 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D491030 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd2mr1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.110]) by pd2mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 24 Jan 2014 18:58:54 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=s+0R4JzlRBUW8GXF//6L4/AwYJegyFoFyppZH3AfVto= c=1 sm=1 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=wfdjpi_6mxMA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=1IN6_p7L3sYqiAMeHhEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pHiVTS448PcA:10 a=7R4C4GgqGGwA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO cds005.dcs.int.inet) ([10.0.141.22]) by pd2mr1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 24 Jan 2014 18:58:54 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Recommendations for wiki software? References: <20140125014300.84363.qmail@joyce.lan> From: Dale Scott MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20140125014300.84363.qmail@joyce.lan> Message-Id: <860DEEBD-CDE1-498A-94D5-68A6D3A6A5E0@shaw.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:58:54 -0700 (MST) To: John Levine X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.1.4_GA_2567 (MobileSync - Apple-iPad2C5/1102.55400001) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:59:01 -0000 > For my low-traffic wikis, the load has always been too low to notice. I run Wikipedia on a single core P4 and fully agree. If you want something = standard and straightforward, use Wikipedia. But there are also lots of coo= l wiki and wiki-like groupware apps if you have the time to learn and confi= g.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 02:13:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88E05F21 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:2:7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C6B116E for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp121-45-52-62.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([121.45.52.62]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2014 12:43:43 +1030 Message-ID: <52E31DD5.3010800@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:43:41 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: coretemp0: critical temperature detected, suggest system shutdown References: <20140123223803.3b02c179@X220.alogt.com> <52E1731A.1020005@dreamchaser.org> <20140124204523.5ff8e368@X220.alogt.com> <52E2C36A.3070306@dreamchaser.org> <20140125090547.2120ffcd@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20140125090547.2120ffcd@X220.alogt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:13:46 -0000 On 25/01/2014 11:35, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:47:54 -0700 > Gary Aitken wrote: > >> On 01/24/14 05:45, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:52:58 -0700 >>> Gary Aitken wrote: >>>> On 01/23/14 07:38, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have seen today for the first time above's message in messages. >>>>> >>>>> This happened when I compiled some ports. It is normal that the >>>>> CPU get then some 96 degrees. >>>> >>>> I had this problem some time ago. >>>> I ended up replacing the stock fan on my system with a better one. >>>> However, a good cleaning of the system may remove enough dust, >>>> cobwebs, etc. and promote better airflow and thereby solve the >>>> problem. >>> >>> this is not the problem. The machine has still the same >>> temperatures as at the beginning. Only the message appeared with >>> the update. >>> >>> It was always normal that the CPU went up to 96 Celsius the moment >>> I was compiling the kernel or some larger ports. It does not get >>> hotter now. >> >> Sorry, I misunderstood the original question. >> Unfortunately, I can't help you there. > > I just ignore the messages then. I just wonder why nobody else get them. I started seeing them a couple of months back - I opened my case and vacuumed all the dust out. Temps under load then dropped back under 60C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 02:20:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 114AE1D4 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC84B11A5 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:20:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=S50Qb/DTTOdo/A/qLzWNOMGXFgCvDxL+Ri2KbqonQEU=; b=BzTqtohn5JGux/a7o+ktcT4ybcNjT62ikYRIf9PhAXxOb7bg4bCIX3/jYXlp+jmfFlxtWUJAYWs46JuuxgvNhCoSgRdbb5XPmlp0sUnOx9nrnlrMUSO1uNt7Y+IcWdH4rxrVZQsWlPF55Ia2vHIlddwCsk7h/B/cFvTGDXuAb7g=; Received: from [39.209.120.9] (port=17454 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W6sqp-001E8Y-ML; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:20:05 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:19:55 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Shane Ambler Subject: Re: coretemp0: critical temperature detected, suggest system shutdown Message-ID: <20140125101955.1651160f@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <52E31DD5.3010800@ShaneWare.Biz> References: <20140123223803.3b02c179@X220.alogt.com> <52E1731A.1020005@dreamchaser.org> <20140124204523.5ff8e368@X220.alogt.com> <52E2C36A.3070306@dreamchaser.org> <20140125090547.2120ffcd@X220.alogt.com> <52E31DD5.3010800@ShaneWare.Biz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:20:07 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:43:41 +1030 Shane Ambler wrote: > > I started seeing them a couple of months back - I opened my case and > vacuumed all the dust out. Temps under load then dropped back under > 60C > the problem is that the temperatures did not change. Only the message appeared. The idle machine is still around 50 to 60 and a loaded machine is still 96, all in Celsius. As I live in the tropics, these temperatures are perfectly normal. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 02:52:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DBC670F for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F67E13A3 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:52:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from otaku.freeshell.org (IDENT:cwr@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0P2qSCC000839 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:52:30 GMT Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:52:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Charlie X-X-Sender: cwr@faeroes.freeshell.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Xorg on ThinkPad T430/10.0-RELEASE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:52:38 -0000 Hi everyone, I just did a fresh install of 10.0-RELEASE on my ThinkPad T430 (Intel graphics). I do not have a display/login manager (such as XDM or GDM, etc.) running on my system, so I do a simple "startx" to launch X and begin my XFCE4 session. However, when I attempt to exit X and return to the console, the screen goes dark and the usual combination of ctrl + alt + F* does nothing, nor does ctrl-alt-backspace. I can still SSH into the laptop, so the system has not crashed, it just seems like its a problem with X and/or the system console. This also happens when I attempt to test an Xorg config file via the method presented in the handbook: Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro Any suggestions or ideas is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Charlie cwr@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 03:12:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D52E6B45 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE0D515F8 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:12:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=YUKBD5PZX1yyrYKrrJ+NxX7rJMhFglp/SVuaG5FbhHw=; b=c3CgqiBvXzgLrI471foP7Tc4acknxiwk72KGauReJdiOU3LnFdYaF4/YgDNrX8AyBIZznjznFUL2RM4MnyjIEUw2t9Frd7EjDRQqtFFdR7M3cmbRlFZvsE3fU73L/iLBIASCDUu0dhF4eThHdjxF21D9HkIGyhgvsngm60bOVL0=; Received: from [39.209.120.9] (port=62800 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W6tfq-001XyS-AJ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:12:47 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:12:32 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Charlie Subject: Re: Xorg on ThinkPad T430/10.0-RELEASE Message-ID: <20140125111232.1e04429a@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:12:48 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Charlie wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just did a fresh install of 10.0-RELEASE on my ThinkPad T430 (Intel > graphics). > > I do not have a display/login manager (such as XDM or GDM, etc.) > running on my system, so I do a simple "startx" to launch X and begin > my XFCE4 session. > > However, when I attempt to exit X and return to the console, the > screen goes dark and the usual combination of ctrl + alt + F* does > nothing, nor does ctrl-alt-backspace. > this is the expected behaviour at the moment. It should be fixed in CURRENT and might be fixed with 10.1 for RELEASE. > I can still SSH into the laptop, so the system has not crashed, it > just seems like its a problem with X and/or the system console. > > This also happens when I attempt to test an Xorg config file via the > method presented in the handbook: > > Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro > > Any suggestions or ideas is greatly appreciated! Be patient or move to CURRENT. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 03:16:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3426FC2D for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFC75161C for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 53431 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2014 03:15:59 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2014 03:15:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=52e32c6f.xn--yuvv84g.k1401; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=WMC7iuhhpSZBzF5doIu7c/1m8qbL1pfn9ehG/Do1id4=; b=Xfs5bMuF9fBUu81ZIiohhqe1hMBier20+L3b/zHt7gq5etAyqkaJlRtmrVFCL78N729ZiGzXNYTdUlNd1OyZfkP23nghPeIvPf35DG5PCWasyvLLhQE5TWJmsCJoJkvVXprZx8QxX+FCRkIj/rpfz+i9jxJcxvNWZIC70sID+nfup7eOMkJjlhreZhMZ4vzr5N1bLzJFJJMMGHNoQ4ZFlcFJrEgGDlDee5jqhIdhEdkdhZUm5ZeDSI9/8jMsRANn Date: 25 Jan 2014 03:15:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20140125031536.84872.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: coretemp0: critical temperature detected, suggest system shutdown In-Reply-To: <20140125101955.1651160f@X220.alogt.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Cc: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:16:01 -0000 >the problem is that the temperatures did not change. Only the message >appeared. The idle machine is still around 50 to 60 and a loaded >machine is still 96, all in Celsius. As I live in the tropics, these >temperatures are perfectly normal. I expect that the thermocouple that measures the temperature has aged and is reporting higher temperatures. Before assuming that, I would check that you don't have dust clogging the vents or otherwise impaired airflow. Look at the man page for acpi_thermal to change the temperature warnings. My laptop was shutting down from overtemperature until I realized that I had placed it next to something that was blocking the fan vent. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 03:18:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AF32E38 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x232.google.com (mail-qa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B97AA164B for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id cm18so4804851qab.37 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:18:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S+/f1TQACmdKpXhA18HJfFFOmI/MF0Jgz9fzJ6ypp/0=; b=I19+OcAmruS4Bhw01MVdzevztPsjuW7faQrDLB8YTlu4791x5/Yr8e1sbyWKKSe0FU Nf/XWNi2rEWPLeOgZ4B8k7lMftvNsolyt4Z8mz7ZRHuIQXjgX+AqLGrK7duMplljUMED 5vSB9KQrDcY9mUyxiMHOItvcUeznq/emP36p/XI/rFs7clXRtepEiPAeKz8zFtGdMYpf K1fE9+2n/X1CpFeuLYcEitPdfnOy86iiDD6CfRtGK2qTzE4KjcuY+BDJs4jMEmzjf1l2 XAmA1TivuFRtN2T39K5CsclMdbbmhd2zMzZxkQflxKekKdaTyxrff5oGvMBxn+J6LOQF 50+g== X-Received: by 10.140.34.207 with SMTP id l73mr14825283qgl.85.1390619917913; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:18:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] ([96.250.7.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j65sm2421547qgj.18.2014.01.24.19.18.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:18:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52E32D0C.8050307@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:18:36 -0500 From: Kevin Phair User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Recommendations for wiki software? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:18:39 -0000 Dokuwiki has served all of my wiki needs at work and at home for a number of years. It is licensed under the GPL, and written in PHP. All of the data is stored in text files, avoiding any database overhead. On 1/24/14, 8:24 PM, Chris Hill wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm looking to run a small wiki on my home server, for use by the > far-flung family. Can anyone recommend something in ports that might > be suitable? > > Ideally I'd like something relatively lightweight, with no overly > heinous demands on either server and client. On the server side, it > would be nice not to have to deal with perl. FOSS preferred, of > course, as is a BSD or Apache license, although I can choke down GPL > if need be. > > The server is currently running 8.1-RELEASE, but will be upgraded to > 10.0-RELEASE soon-ish. The hardware is relatively modern, but no hot > rod: CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz (2527.02-MHz 686-class CPU). > > Thanks. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 03:41:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 611A1231 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x229.google.com (mail-oa0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 281E81792 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j17so4685964oag.14 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:41:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZamGHt0PzNcecXAzqm26gpva7zj2PRWE4p6cVwPGywk=; b=COZ5pDGAAkYBYyy2qHz60Ixw3gO20oNBE11hX5HzYqtltdjqp/GGl8lpc6hnDPNm0A 0umSkLpMYlGaYjhOO0XmjqkT+ZjZTkvebCMJKqTm3i2P2ils6i6+irONtMQh2UHKxI8a Nud5whtwlcBea9KF49xJjhObglWk1n4xKpu+34vxLilQ0kALfIqrLlnLb/GGPcPXglzT QeqDBR1MYQqYx60/47IRnw1MFHrQ33Og1s0nsvM3Vj7fvnqbMBbmdqUAmgvHbCGN4nur TKyV8//NgLYnGs5r87ZOXmA16HlnvTgowhM3QL2+yJOJFLwbEYOfOoAI5UKlNeb8Fzhg iE3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.67.105 with SMTP id m9mr90988oet.58.1390621274991; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.3.11 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:41:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52E32D0C.8050307@gmail.com> References: <52E32D0C.8050307@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:41:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recommendations for wiki software? From: Outback Dingo To: Kevin Phair Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Questions List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:41:16 -0000 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Kevin Phair wrote: > Dokuwiki has served all of my wiki needs at work and at home for a number > of years. It is licensed under the GPL, and written in PHP. All of the > data is stored in text files, avoiding any database overhead. > > > > On 1/24/14, 8:24 PM, Chris Hill wrote: > >> Hello list, >> >> I'm looking to run a small wiki on my home server, for use by the >> far-flung family. Can anyone recommend something in ports that might be >> suitable? >> >> Ideally I'd like something relatively lightweight, with no overly heinous >> demands on either server and client. On the server side, it would be nice >> not to have to deal with perl. FOSS preferred, of course, as is a BSD or >> Apache license, although I can choke down GPL if need be. >> >> The server is currently running 8.1-RELEASE, but will be upgraded to >> 10.0-RELEASE soon-ish. The hardware is relatively modern, but no hot rod: >> CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz (2527.02-MHz 686-class CPU). >> >> Thanks. >> >> TiddlyWiki is a sweet one page standalone app ive used for years > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 03:49:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 321B4470 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D822A183D for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.183.65.74] ([76.183.65.74:65523] helo=[192.168.1.32]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 79/06-11837-B4433E25; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:49:33 +0000 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:49:31 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Warren Block , 'Devin Teske' Subject: RE: awk programming question Message-ID: <834811727E040B4079BD1CB4@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: References: <20140123185604.4cbd7611@gumby.homeunix.com> <04a201cf1878$8ebce540$ac36afc0$@FreeBSD.org> <04aa01cf187e$cfcf9ef0$6f6edcd0$@FreeBSD.org> <04d201cf1895$20956890$61c039b0$@FreeBSD.org> <050a01cf1929$051c0670$0f541350$@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Cc: 'RW' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:49:35 -0000 --On January 24, 2014 10:34:47 AM -0700 Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > >>>> I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that -- in terms of >>>> readability, I'm not sure if the following is more readable: >>>> >>>> /(a[^z]*z)/ >>> >>> Wait till you see the other PCRE stuff. There are lots of things >>> that really make it much more powerful. perlre(1) covers it all, >>> sketchily and not really in order. >>> >>> I've said elsewhere, and will repeat again: "Mastering Regular >>> Expressions" by Jeffrey E. F. Friedl (the owl book) is amazing. My >>> first edition (1997) does not have some of the newer Perl stuff, but >>> it's now up to a third edition: >>> >>> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596528126.do >> >> Does it cover "back references" ? Definitely one of the more powerful >> but esoteric regular expressions (e.g., you want to match a string >> that starts with a quote and has a matching terminating quote, but not >> match a string that has a quote without matching termination). > > It does cover backreferences, in the sense of egrep: > \<[A-Za-z]+) +\1\> > > That will find a word followed by one or more spaces and the same word > again. > >> If-so, I'm totally buying that book. > > Buy it. I've never seen another book that treats such a complex subject > with such clarity and readability. I can't possibly thank you gentlemen enough for this wonderful discussion of awk and perl and regex. Thank you for sharing your insights and knowledge. Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 03:54:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EBC8562 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0715A18B5 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:54:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=7Z0++xDtItQnuxRCMCE6qvc5T3TH/fTCDT2JAoQXQIQ=; b=MWeb5xvlERuB16bsv1i0FPNrgZXhGF91CDIBKIDyL4VCP6g6jiDqepNCTNxiL2iD2jfNxlbMyx6LTR8uLEX7YM7GKKSFADbdqcKoXR2vVPggHvPH4pYoytKPIQT93j48dpQfUohdTMDi6AG07WY4vsyGW8Cwawlgo+Y2QRMbACo=; Received: from [39.209.120.9] (port=23429 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W6uKB-001oM5-VS; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:54:30 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:54:20 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: "John Levine" Subject: Re: coretemp0: critical temperature detected, suggest system shutdown Message-ID: <20140125115420.3043ad5d@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20140125031536.84872.qmail@joyce.lan> References: <20140125101955.1651160f@X220.alogt.com> <20140125031536.84872.qmail@joyce.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:54:31 -0000 Hi, On 25 Jan 2014 03:15:36 -0000 "John Levine" wrote: > >the problem is that the temperatures did not change. Only the message > >appeared. The idle machine is still around 50 to 60 and a loaded > >machine is still 96, all in Celsius. As I live in the tropics, these > >temperatures are perfectly normal. > > I expect that the thermocouple that measures the temperature has aged > and is reporting higher temperatures. Before assuming that, I would > check that you don't have dust clogging the vents or otherwise > impaired airflow. > An example: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 60.0C This is perfectly normal under the conditions here and I get these values since I have this machine. > Look at the man page for acpi_thermal to change the temperature > warnings. The warning level is set to -1. So, there should be no warning. The temperature level for shutting down is set to 99 degrees. This value is never reached and the machine also never shuts down. > > My laptop was shutting down from overtemperature until I realized that > I had placed it next to something that was blocking the fan vent. > I placed the machine the same as it runs for at least 3 months now. As I have said before, the temperature shown are the same as before. Just the warning comes up when the machine is loaded. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 03:58:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDB1062B for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x234.google.com (mail-ob0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2D3D18D4 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id wp4so4510673obc.11 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:58:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wJIYQMABdDfLLOu8HwQUhzW1MOzxHECKENAspki94dI=; b=sPk/Ie1AANEIqrq3ie0RTzd+NuWlZL3ZWW1WfWSPBVWCzOV0llOZIN0VAC0os8wqhd CINVvZ4qlvAuF4ND+JRv8910ADv8mv7uNOsPUMSNgRDOzMvM+85JNFnhMXQ5kevEMMDO eM1y+bnSom6nzDdV1LiQgo2zmzVkZJeKc8DbrAy3/6D2Ji7Y0hK1WQdPKW8k6LHeKdmk OJq14yi+AORJFo4cl/hV6ckGaajZ8NXf5we71e2nhedkNhllV4Sn0t9JTSUEmX39KVoo kiP23BnDwkfW7sx1sPmOU+8NZucjw535vVVkbPura9TiAUCNLnt9foG5/Vk1kRmorpB1 EZSQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.220.225 with SMTP id pz1mr4702181obc.51.1390622301955; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:58:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.3.11 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:58:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <52E32D0C.8050307@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:58:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recommendations for wiki software? From: Outback Dingo To: Kevin Phair Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Questions List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:58:23 -0000 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Outback Dingo wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Kevin Phair wrote: > >> Dokuwiki has served all of my wiki needs at work and at home for a number >> of years. It is licensed under the GPL, and written in PHP. All of the >> data is stored in text files, avoiding any database overhead. >> >> >> >> On 1/24/14, 8:24 PM, Chris Hill wrote: >> >>> Hello list, >>> >>> I'm looking to run a small wiki on my home server, for use by the >>> far-flung family. Can anyone recommend something in ports that might be >>> suitable? >>> >>> Ideally I'd like something relatively lightweight, with no overly >>> heinous demands on either server and client. On the server side, it would >>> be nice not to have to deal with perl. FOSS preferred, of course, as is a >>> BSD or Apache license, although I can choke down GPL if need be. >>> >>> The server is currently running 8.1-RELEASE, but will be upgraded to >>> 10.0-RELEASE soon-ish. The hardware is relatively modern, but no hot rod: >>> CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz (2527.02-MHz 686-class CPU). >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> > TiddlyWiki is a sweet one page standalone app ive used for years > theres also d3 cubed a clone of tiddlywiki with some awesome features > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 04:13:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BA1B786 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27BCD19D5 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82C320795 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:13:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=operamail.com; h= message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:date; s=mesmtp; bh=ThnHXrosGC7+BAW0iP7IE43cEH8=; b= JzH28zc3t1fryhmBr5ZXBCC3eRVqU+muS6tVkI4U+63G0hwOSwML2jKDwk7YLsjC QQadSN7nYc+qT56yzBaDGRNlueJdDYXwpy/dEvuY3uGvx1Gxz5uBso8P36koMU4c 3WrMv4+kHHP5mc2RQh+sokV0WFCc3K0uVgCzq9EZVlU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date; s=smtpout; bh=ThnH XrosGC7+BAW0iP7IE43cEH8=; b=GPW7OV9Xzl1jeTqU4jf2mmKdIWuy/hbHA2Ip 7rRi8YQ6RvdAU8kOUTmXJ1WBKIEd1CukAlbigk2XQegDeTUSLDTqXqr+2uaKQlS5 85qpbvI5CdQeoJVXsA5QVeCDc+M63JRx0Xwn68hckilAkcp0C5vikrHdGqCaDZ6G ZMLa63U= Received: by web6.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id ABE902851CC; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:13:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1390623216.13279.75096525.21DA4B31@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: c0Rjd9V3FMo8eVXW2J1V8uxirwkMQuHkThlMrJPXbkDh 1390623216 From: M V To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - html Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:13:36 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:13:39 -0000 Hello i hope you can help me, i have downloaded freeBSD ISO 9 and 10 more than once after burning to a cd than trying to boot into the live cd they wont they ask for password so i use root, than i get to a root promt and i dont know what command to use it just stops the live cd boot process??? would like to try freebsd first i have also tried installing after installation all i get is like a dos invironment no graphics of any kind ???hope you can help me P/S ISO is i386 using on dell latitude d520 -- M V [1]dreamsun777@operamail.com References 1. mailto:dreamsun777@operamail.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/help/overview_quotes.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 04:26:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6798E04 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 789041CCD for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 455FC3CB03; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:26:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0P4PsBq004404; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:25:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:25:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: M V Subject: Re: Message-Id: <20140125052554.d1dd907a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1390623216.13279.75096525.21DA4B31@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1390623216.13279.75096525.21DA4B31@webmail.messagingengine.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:26:27 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:13:36 -0800, M V wrote: > Hello i hope you can help me, i have downloaded freeBSD ISO 9 and 10 > more than once after burning to a cd than trying to boot into the live > cd they wont they ask for password so i use root, than i get to a root > promt and i dont know what command to use it just stops the live cd > boot process??? >From what you describe, the boot process seems to have finished successfully. You could start an installation from there. Have a look at The FreeBSD Handbook on how to perform the installation, it's really easy: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall.html This documentation does in cover all important steps for a successful installation. For installation, you should use the installation CD #1. You could also use a USB image (so you don't need to burn optical media) or the network installation CD (less stuff to download) if you have an internet connection ("online installation" requires network, while the CD and DVD do not). > would like to try freebsd first In that case, you'd probably be interested in VirtualBSD, which is a preinstalled and preconfigured image for virtualization sofware, so you can run and try it without requiring an actual installation. http://www.virtualbsd.info/ It works with VMware, but can also be used with VirtualBox, if I remember correctly. > i have also tried > installing after installation all i get is like a dos invironment no > graphics of any kind ??? That's correct. Because FreeBSD is a multi-purpose OS, having a graphical interface per default would make it totally useless as a server operating system, because servers usually don't have graphics cards or screens. Most of them don't even have a real keyboard. :-) If you're interested in running FreeBSD as a graphical desktop, try PC-BSD. It comes with an installer targeted at "GUI people" and includes lots of software from the start. http://www.pcbsd.org/ It's interesting that people still confuse seeing text mode display on their machine with "DOS"... :-) > hope you can help me P/S ISO is i386 using on > dell latitude d520 I've also successfully installed and run FreeBSD on that kind of hardware. Note that if you have more than 2 GB RAM and no real needs to intendedly run i386 (32 bit), use amd64 (64 bit). Still both of them should work fine. PS. Please specify a Subject when posting to the mailing list. It's possible that your message could be regarded spam when it doesn't have an obvious topic. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 04:59:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6878D577 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f50.google.com (mail-pa0-f50.google.com [209.85.220.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32B351EC5 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id kp14so4030072pab.9 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:59:50 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:references:mail-followup-to:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Cqp2PjY/SdSUKPKZP79w/4LqUV6Mg4evIcfBaXRwHog=; b=UMjMD0hzpbM7KVZjVHjeYhd6+FhxT/s2tAe8uWpSDl6lK8te5iPwEBJUc3r9kpPLaR WfXc9NSeZho2a6bxBktZBYnw84JfmwStJ4j5RV0OYz6uYImjwIZI/oFsNo19MeMPsUzZ SnylcTy4PlpDLZo6Z2m9yLjbthnOUzaxSmCGUicx+6xexAkYuxpaIGx6S3aaLQW0xeDn G+xbp8qYLQVQH7giOKOZjyPQ0xPQNp2PFM2H1FODeNN7HT8L02Grfe7TJT/UmTB9J4fL W7RWYAwBC3NU1zaBmMld6fnInnq/YGMQGCcGA7GK5LqPSD5dTXHkOtsetOq9zswcLG9E N/cg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl3XIvGnLge4K2uBeuHt2oTNMS7/WxnkKL7xlE6vvzIw8tw1ckbwwQlJyd3R/OX+48IcxDh X-Received: by 10.68.172.65 with SMTP id ba1mr18303311pbc.18.1390625990823; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from birch.localnet ([207.55.103.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id vg1sm8677539pbc.44.2014.01.24.20.59.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [192.168.193.34]) by birch.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF8255E22 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE4DBDA3 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s0P4xjjU041132; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:59:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is ruby ri documentation? References: <87ob313rx7.fsf@oak.localnet> <1390612058.1846.85.camel@eva02> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:59:45 -0800 In-Reply-To: <1390612058.1846.85.camel@eva02> (clutton@zoho.com's message of "Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:07:38 +0200") Message-ID: <87k3do4pxa.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:59:58 -0000 clutton writes: > On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 15:01 -0800, Carl Johnson wrote: >> documentation for ri, but only what has been installed by various >> gems. > > Hm, it may be built with OPTIONS_UNSET+= DOCS. > Please post output from `pkg info ruby-your-ruby-version` here. It says that rdoc is off, but I don't know if that includes the ri documentation. The pkg info follows: --------------------------------------------------------------- $ pkg info ruby ruby-1.9.3.484,1 Name : ruby Version : 1.9.3.484,1 Origin : lang/ruby19 Architecture : freebsd:10:x86:64 Prefix : /usr/local Categories : ruby lang ipv6 Licenses : RUBY or BSD2CLAUSE Maintainer : ruby@FreeBSD.org WWW : http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ Comment : Object-oriented interpreted scripting language Options : DEBUG : off RDOC : off Shared Libs required: libyaml-0.so.2 libruby19.so.19 libffi.so.6 Shared Libs provided: libruby19.so.19 Flat size : 19.7MiB Description : Ruby is the interpreted scripting language for quick and easy object-oriented programming. It has many features to process text files and to do system management tasks (as in Perl). It is simple, straight-forward, and extensible. Features of Ruby are shown below. + Simple Syntax + *Normal* Object-Oriented features(ex. class, method calls) + *Advanced* Object-Oriented features(ex. Mix-in, Singleton-method) + Operator Overloading + Exception Handling + Iterators and Closures + Garbage Collection + Dynamic Loading of Object files(on some architecture) + Highly Portable(works on many UNIX machines, and on DOS, Windows, Mac, BeOS etc.) WWW: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ --------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the reply. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 07:00:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E513990 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 434E01643 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0P70AJw095243; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:00:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0P70AAe095240; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:00:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:00:10 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Kata Goto Subject: Re: Unable to boot on USB key on Lenovo Thinkpad T440 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:00:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:00:12 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, Kata Goto wrote: > Hello all, > > I recently (this week), recieved a Lenovo Thinkpad T440 and I want to > install FreeBSD, so I have disabled the secure boot and force the legacy > boot mode only. > Then I have downloaded an USB image and write it via > $ dd if=FreeBSD-9.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=64k > > (I also tried with 10.0-RELEASE) > And my laptop refuses to boot on it, even if I force to boot on it (via > ). > My USB key works well on other computers (they boot on it) and my laptop > boots well on an Ubuntu USB key. > I have also tried to boot on an external CD Drive, but nothing change :/ > > I am running out of ideas. > If you have the same issue or new ideas, please, let me know. The USB image uses a bare BSDlabel, aka "dangerously dedicated", meaning there is no MBR at all. Some versions of Thinkpad firmware had strange misconceptions about disk formats. A CD could boot fine, being a more common format. Make certain the Thinkpad firmware is the latest version, and the USB image might work. Some work with gpart and dd might be able to convert the USB image to an MBR/BSDlabel format which would boot. Or the problem might not be related to the bare BSDlabel, but that it works on everything but the Thinkpad make it a good guess. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 07:10:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCE3CB9C for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E6171674 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0P7AOfN095291; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:10:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0P7AOcO095288; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:10:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:10:23 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Charlie Subject: Re: Xorg on ThinkPad T430/10.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:10:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:10:25 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jan 2014, Charlie wrote: > I just did a fresh install of 10.0-RELEASE on my ThinkPad T430 (Intel > graphics). > > I do not have a display/login manager (such as XDM or GDM, etc.) running on > my system, so I do a simple "startx" to launch X and begin my XFCE4 session. > > However, when I attempt to exit X and return to the console, the screen goes > dark and the usual combination of ctrl + alt + F* does nothing, nor does > ctrl-alt-backspace. Yes. You are using the KMS video drivers, and currently there is no KMS console driver in FreeBSD 10. There is one, called Newcons, in -CURRENT, and an MFC is planned at some point: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons > I can still SSH into the laptop, so the system has not crashed, it just seems > like its a problem with X and/or the system console. The console is running, it just can't be seen. Type startx and you will be back in X and can shut down or do further work in a terminal window. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 09:42:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D90730F for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x22b.google.com (mail-qc0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35F0510D3 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id n7so5770098qcx.30 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:42:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ip9fM7+7qfGcbLs2+0DFxqez0h1JfC+84+9HrVu+neY=; b=RcqCAx9hPvSWZxU1c6httuCcNwPdQ+r/UW0N9TqbyLtLz0Nu9w9QA9obQ7ez82EW0h n1rnZmmERi93u5bNtNIVnbK9lsn5wtQBy4rAZuCz2lyBHBj9OOaZFpMxYw9LgRUrMisy GEf2B6ofXuC5gbsdVy3NQPBMFhuxwA5UaK/sCHt8Ut35hEqNi8FlQzIruzgteUk1HHlM lozgkLhrnh3DLeepEy1J/8x85ZWnLsvmgnjzkWYyei4CN8eJxDTgUev/KWnv5lPNbO8Q Kq+cGnF/t+IhvebzRhhwlSlzfNMMj/XkjBgd29GIfEKyzLJ8Uz7NYmNaUSAO/xvRCVD5 MGAw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.104.8 with SMTP id m8mr27310443qao.87.1390642950152; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.37.227 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:42:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140125085150.0ba19696@X220.alogt.com> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> <52E2A5BD.8090400@gmail.com> <20140124184810.GB927@tiny-r255948> <20140125085150.0ba19696@X220.alogt.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:42:30 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list From: krad To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: Matthias Apitz , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:42:31 -0000 Anyone on a gmail account getting them? On 25 January 2014 00:51, Erich Dollansky wrot= e: > Hi, > > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:48:10 +0100 > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > El d=EDa Friday, January 24, 2014 a las 06:04:26PM +0000, Walter Hurry > > escribi=F3: > > > > > iamatt wrote: > > > > > > > I get these emails as well. I searched the interwebs for my > > > > address and topics but did not see any. Wondering if there is a > > > > rogue bot signed up to the lists? Anyway almost to the point of > > > > unsubscribing from the list. > > > > > > > I read the list in a newsreader via gmane.os.freebsd.questions. No > > > problems here. > > > > I get the list as mails and I see only your complains about the issue, > > not the SPAM itself (and I do not run any SpamAssassin). And I'm > > posting frecuently. > > > it seems that a bot is registered to the list and answers randomly > e-mails posted here. I was affected until I reported to the owner of > the SMTP server used to send the e-mail to the list. > > > Do I miss something not seeing her? :-) > > She uses three tooth brushes. I could imagine that she works in dental > care. > > Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 10:11:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93000752 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x234.google.com (mail-wg0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2370212B2 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id b13so3936544wgh.7 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:11:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9sF0vT9u4LGVNYlL4OTlty6zJDB6S4fJpwA7v3bb+pk=; b=MsG1Wh1WufVEzVTQNGwkvUGIiFUjddK++wJk/S42TVaWgEncAvlGKN9fWWJgHU7Jbr DKjFTetoQ4bQlud6/cMimPLC/8Rs0vZwsScVY8o1fwWv1mr4sBwiwszDuwCeX4idF/0P awbA8fWyMnHKPvCCGSnaxxKlpmldEmHAiECc7F+TIda0FvFzKfNiKuecOL6WexAP5uoe ZpP5xOlArUlkJYJ2Bjbsi6U+XNUtepvsZZuf1yrgsGWdzpUckzxDcoSpuXrlZHLv6Of5 XbCJAqZxFeodQE56XETyiSMT92dQl96fy0zJY7k8axLAKJAWdURMY6Zz4ZrF7GIfK7dn BOAw== X-Received: by 10.180.7.227 with SMTP id m3mr5969091wia.59.1390644694631; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net. [80.229.5.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uc9sm13446017wib.2.2014.01.25.02.11.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:11:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52E38DD4.7000909@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:11:32 +0000 From: James Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <52E0CA82.3020102@FreeBSD.org> <52E2A480.6000205@freebsd.org> <52E2A5BD.8090400@gmail.com> <20140124184810.GB927@tiny-r255948> <20140125085150.0ba19696@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:11:36 -0000 On 25/01/2014 09:42, krad wrote: > Anyone on a gmail account getting them? > > > yes, I use gmail now. Because we're subscribed to this list, for some reason it is seen as legitimate mail. I'm sure the list administrator will have it sorted out soon. Initially I just wanted to check I wasn't the only subscriber receiving them - I thought my account had been hacked. 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[80.229.5.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ay6sm8771774wjb.23.2014.01.25.02.15.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:15:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52E38EB5.3080604@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:15:17 +0000 From: James Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: pkg command to remove multiple packages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:15:22 -0000 Hi With this new pkgng thing, if I use 'pkg delete -R -x xfce' will it remove all the stuff related to the xfce4 installation. I had to use ports to build xfce4 because there wasn't a meta-pkg to install (at least not that I could find), but i'm using kde4 now instead. Could do with the disk space. I guess that command won't find a few bits like thunar and some libs. Cheers, Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 10:32:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F8B7C33 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D47D91473 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0PAVnhG036915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:32:06 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s0PAVnhG036915 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s0PAVnhG036915; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <52E39294.3010106@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:31:48 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg command to remove multiple packages References: <52E38EB5.3080604@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <52E38EB5.3080604@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LXjwnn8lXXJgAcDI5rx1BFkNDBqkn3FjF" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DCC_CHECK autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:32:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --LXjwnn8lXXJgAcDI5rx1BFkNDBqkn3FjF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/01/2014 10:15, James Griffin wrote: > Hi >=20 > With this new pkgng thing, if I use 'pkg delete -R -x xfce' will it > remove all the stuff related to the xfce4 installation. I had to use > ports to build xfce4 because there wasn't a meta-pkg to install (at > least not that I could find), but i'm using kde4 now instead. Could do > with the disk space. >=20 > I guess that command won't find a few bits like thunar and some libs. 'pkg deinstall -R pkgname' deletes pkgname and everything that requires pkgname, which is 90% of what you need. The remaining 10% can be cleaned up by: pkg autoremove This deletes packages that were installed solely to fulfill the dependencies of pkgname -- if you're building your packages locally with portmaster / portupgrade or similar, it should try and remove any build dependencies[*] too, which may or may not be what you want. Also, it won't remove a package if something else has subsequently been installed that also requires it. Cheers, Matthew [*] pkg(8) only ever considers run-time dependencies. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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I searched the interwebs for = my > > > > > address and topics but did not see any. Wondering if there i= s a > > > > > rogue bot signed up to the lists? Anyway almost to the poin= t of > > > > > unsubscribing from the list. > > > > > > > > > I read the list in a newsreader via gmane.os.freebsd.questions.= No > > > > problems here. > > > > > > I get the list as mails and I see only your complains about the i= ssue, > > > not the SPAM itself (and I do not run any SpamAssassin). And I'm > > > posting frecuently. > > > > > it seems that a bot is registered to the list and answers randomly > > e-mails posted here. I was affected until I reported to the owner o= f > > the SMTP server used to send the e-mail to the list. > > > > > Do I miss something not seeing her? :-) > > > > She uses three tooth brushes. I could imagine that she works in den= tal > > care. > > > > Erich > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb= sd.org" I have too and I got everyday one or to emails: Delivered-To: lumiwa@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.234.42 with SMTP id ub10csp88726wjc; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:59:06 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.224.29.4 with SMTP id o4mr26859412qac.43.139063674611= 1; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:59:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from 77-88.rs.smtp.com (77-88.rs.smtp.com. [74.91.88.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id ew5si1513137qab.39.2014.01.24.23= .59.05 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mitzi.ellis@deluxmail.net des= ignates 74.91.88.77 as permitted sender) client-ip=3D74.91.88.77; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=3Dpass (google.com: domain of mitzi.ellis@deluxmail.net desi= gnates 74.91.88.77 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=3Dmitzi.ellis@deluxma= il.net; dkim=3Dneutral (bad format) header.i=3D@smtp.com Return-Path: X-MSFBL: bHVtaXdhQGdtYWlsLmNvbUA3NF85MV84OF83N0BlY29ub215aG9zdGluZ3Byb3= Zp =09ZGVyX2RlZGljYXRlX3Bvb2xA DKIM-Signature: v=3D1; a=3Drsa-sha256; d=3Dsmtp.com; s=3Dsmtpcomcustome= rs; c=3Drelaxed/simple; =09q=3Ddns/txt; i=3D@smtp.com; t=3D1390636745; =09h=3DFrom:Subject:To:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; =09bh=3DueOeoy1naKmSLc3pNedrm39mtBLd4LDunMjLi5kaxHQ=3D; =09b=3DSrVnopNiNDX2JHXF2OCjZs1jjAhUHK6lSiaHNWwJHiVPpdE9MJqa/DljY9O81nP+= =09PeeiAMCIjnWSdsC/NbdCYMAH+KQEDzKI9fKG9z0kf/+deLqSLn9zVnW7px0xCuqU =09I7mVexHRON+iJu9RKQgJZy5ddAi2NYVZm2tkorVO64Y=3D; Received: from [173.3.51.173] ([173.3.51.173:46485] helo=3Dlocalhost.lo= caldomain) =09by rs-ord-mta04.smtp.com (envelope-from )= =09(ecelerity 3.3.2.44647 r(44647)) with ESMTP =09id E0/86-24008-8CE63E25; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:59:05 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=3D"_----------=3D_1390636744582= 690" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 3.029 (F2.82; T2.01; A2.12; B3.14; Q3.13) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:59:04 -0500 From: Mitzi Ellis To: lumiwa@gmail.com Subject: Re: Looking for my soulmate X-SMTPCOM-Tracking-Number: be634388-21fa-460e-94ff-d488542cd8c0 X-SMTPCOM-Sender-ID: 5000329 X-SMTPCOM-Spam-Policy: SMTP.com is a paid relay service. We do not tole= rate UCE of any kind. Please report it ASAP to abuse@smtp.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=3D_1390636744582690 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/html Hi, i like to workout love eating different cuisine and travelling.

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Sent from my iPad --_----------=3D_1390636744582690 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=3D"bathroom.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=3D"bathroom.jpg" --=20 Mitja ------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 11:40:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57C8D5D6 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DF621915 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:40:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=iJvHRd/7ARTnNPCHom2ON/wspSgqevfhs4z8lXCKklE=; b=BqTXBxesuVCpyy0W4Waz2ulMifvHBfcGd5o0x0RqCZz20LgkBHeO1Lk++qaGzAthfOY1KLURNai37RIQDK+m6SsAbt924BWa/qqSBjK6sjLWPSbPmDrXW5p2Ujpn5LWY+9yAHV81GSTLZChNGC/0pQCEwcFUF9WgB9EW1xpKWHM=; Received: from [114.120.114.186] (port=11379 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W71b3-000W3T-9h; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:40:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:40:08 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Ajtim Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list Message-ID: <20140125194008.23b8e5f9@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <9400887.Cl6VNfUFA9@lumiwa.farms.net> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <20140125085150.0ba19696@X220.alogt.com> <9400887.Cl6VNfUFA9@lumiwa.farms.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, krad X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:40:23 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:29:51 -0500 Ajtim wrote: > On Saturday 25 January 2014 09:42:30 krad wrote: > > Anyone on a gmail account getting them? > > > I have too and I got everyday one or to emails: > > Received: from 77-88.rs.smtp.com (77-88.rs.smtp.com. [74.91.88.77]) I addressed the guys which have been on this location in the spam I got and it stopped. Try your luck. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 11:47:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E38D79D0 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0FEC19B3 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s0PBg1c0034434; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:42:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <52E3A309.4070401@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:42:01 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ajtim , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <20140125085150.0ba19696@X220.alogt.com> <9400887.Cl6VNfUFA9@lumiwa.farms.net> In-Reply-To: <9400887.Cl6VNfUFA9@lumiwa.farms.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Erich Dollansky , Matthias Apitz , krad X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:47:22 -0000 On 2014-01-25 12:29, Ajtim wrote: > Content-Type: text/html > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="bathroom.jpg" That is why we don't get them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 12:03:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D2B9C2C for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:03:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 539F81AD2 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:03:05 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=8Qf6xWepIMrykRN2vzYauzo6Z6pNOdPxu9LcbdBgSZM=; b=uClHEqGG0+4MRwLfdP5C6c1uZqet0k9kfWeo74rj0Q50L78QW9bciRytwA5tBAvC6Sf5sukpVEK5FbZXKqZmaZA9tZy1D/s8uj6hxhx5rxNtTM8HwC/TD6rTjotUYMkgMNSbt7CVTsvugFmOyo0NoKPke+DX+c7+8+BtxOY6zAs=; Received: from [114.120.114.186] (port=48067 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W71x1-000fKt-Mz; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:03:04 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:02:57 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list Message-ID: <20140125200257.5541c212@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <52E3A309.4070401@bananmonarki.se> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <20140125085150.0ba19696@X220.alogt.com> <9400887.Cl6VNfUFA9@lumiwa.farms.net> <52E3A309.4070401@bananmonarki.se> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Matthias Apitz , Ajtim , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, krad X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:03:05 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:42:01 +0100 Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2014-01-25 12:29, Ajtim wrote: > > > Content-Type: text/html > > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="bathroom.jpg" > > That is why we don't get them. it is not sent via the list but directly to the members here. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 12:11:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F37611DE; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.solomo.de (mail.solomo.de [5.9.87.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5F831B7C; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cpos1.nexxtmobile.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.solomo.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCBC118F0; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:11:32 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at nexxtmobile.de Received: from mail.solomo.de ([127.0.0.1]) by cpos1.nexxtmobile.de (cpos1.nexxtmobile.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id zoRiZfU5r-LH; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:11:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from nibbler-wlan.home.lan (unknown [IPv6:2001:4dd0:fd65:d00d:8859:2d7e:ee30:6959]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.solomo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A0E36118D0; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:11:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <52E3A9E7.4000300@smeets.im> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:11:19 +0100 From: Florian Smeets User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/29.0a1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ajtim , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <20140125085150.0ba19696@X220.alogt.com> <9400887.Cl6VNfUFA9@lumiwa.farms.net> In-Reply-To: <9400887.Cl6VNfUFA9@lumiwa.farms.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.7a1pre Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AWK4jKNwWcSLgREIhbFJA5AbOfjTQtlLe" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:13:18 +0000 Cc: Erich Dollansky , Matthias Apitz , postmaster@freebsd.org, krad X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:11:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --AWK4jKNwWcSLgREIhbFJA5AbOfjTQtlLe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/01/14 12:29, Ajtim wrote: >=20 > I have too and I got everyday one or to emails: >=20 postmaster@ is actively looking into this. Can people say when this started? I'm currently trying to figure out how they harvest the messages. Email vs the web archives. If they use the web it could be any archive, it doesn't actually have to be the FreeBSD list archives, so I'm not sure we can stop this. Currently the first report of this was around 14.01.2014, so if you received messages like this earlier please tell us. Thanks, Florian (current hat: part of postmaster@freebsd.org) --AWK4jKNwWcSLgREIhbFJA5AbOfjTQtlLe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJS46nuAAoJEOcFPfn/hvB2FBAP/2tRdJMqIHaXRgOC4//34AI4 PjITXMANlj92TtTURLqConVbH3eGUbdrwX5lKYHuY9GQkRj1/J/lloGxUPlaeSnT VMztbhprtkSULStS7fe/zyZ85bT+oVbENlYM873WG5cyGUZCjK3x6D+NIcWDTKrO rIOaOBj2EA9yJT/SPczjWJD4Tqm2ckAfHQHPSlab4mnPgNe+1LILS/2va6gzg33E V8SDeVOLUl/PVHYL1v9uIfLTMBLUOuKbAV+uf0WdEXxbJ/8jA7jQ0jTuZ98bI6y/ ZLDg2vr5mIHRAhKuglV9eP9bWfe5GXCNZs6TZ6XxOk5W4uWccYvRHuJrZcxtevpo mTzJRMIjHIqGoRwf7cnP3tRkdNjmkL2KNKTib6vVY9+1M7O2YRXSrlCZZc5CUGld fIIlBX5/ZIy1rN8Scravn3TFl+RxL7dXb3Yjaqg8dn6SlozrqM/yH5GGToGzS2rg 36wizAhIkXaUtR7O7Tulq8cOr2OwO5zpXXvZIb/Enk5XI/0Y2zLTLqBrYk3x3guT O55g6XuJcGtvrIVXN9zWC1zDqbtQhQTsJAAWhmgfWwaRWd1CkoOXjyK9h4uJKwNj RewGpYWKYFTEqJOw4/vGcOIOq7YgIsK1sKEM5ALao7haSK1vwue7ysaXJqQIbXjW 06OzM3eT4/nb7OGcD8Os =/0J2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AWK4jKNwWcSLgREIhbFJA5AbOfjTQtlLe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 12:55:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C40FA11; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr (smtp22.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7E11F1E; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2204.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D8BA3700013C; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:48:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from e330 (91.168.102.84.rev.sfr.net [84.102.168.91]) by msfrf2204.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A3F17000132; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:48:51 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20140125124851500.7A3F17000132@msfrf2204.sfr.fr Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:48:50 +0100 From: francesco scaglione To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Recommendations for wiki software? Message-ID: <20140125124850.GA7588@e330> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions List References: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:55:46 -0000 On 24 Jan 2014 à 20:24, Chris Hill wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm looking to run a small wiki on my home server, for use by the > far-flung family. Can anyone recommend something in ports that might > be suitable? > > Ideally I'd like something relatively lightweight, with no overly > heinous demands on either server and client. On the server side, it > would be nice not to have to deal with perl. FOSS preferred, of > course, as is a BSD or Apache license, although I can choke down GPL > if need be. > > The server is currently running 8.1-RELEASE, but will be upgraded to > 10.0-RELEASE soon-ish. The hardware is relatively modern, but no hot > rod: CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz (2527.02-MHz 686-class > CPU). > > Thanks. Hello, I'm using Dokuwiki on a small, Atom based server running 8.4-RELEASE and I'm quite happy with that. It is fast, simple, the back up is really easy and the port is very well maintained: you have a new stable release every six months and the FreeBSD port is updated a few days later! Francesco From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 13:57:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EA54AA1 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com (mail-we0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A245139D for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id t60so3669307wes.37 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:57:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; bh=Fcy57eTZbId39sQrClIDHuXdm/WGT3l/jXm+m9E0yWw=; b=Q9V8RueO7bsDNWXoafQla2DNxeOVwOwPKhBzdAzAuAI1BmltAot6wr7NF5ANunRn5a loV+U6NPZIT+nNhkAHyDOaY7/FCc8MKdmU8JP1tV2wrRYU3VqT38Ay3K0UEk6zyLCMRX UIb/LT5M5pSoeMkPxRA8aZr4lc1Rhi8WdmfIkotvf97SFv+tsqG7ZgA8WGBD/FDFcpKq LM/HCvIqBMBn24Gd8RFRHVpXhVDGrYDL1AKeCB63IEQkTmJo64IbocYfWvXICvKL99a9 uAsHvcW8LjZcCcw56nLtXGo1cJluCkoj3hDFCkv46HXbMaSqJK2vjYCEZZJfWmTvBfg9 BMnw== X-Received: by 10.181.11.133 with SMTP id ei5mr6631421wid.2.1390658263998; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nicolass-mbp.home (AOrleans-652-1-77-193.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr. [92.140.148.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p1sm14666484wie.1.2014.01.25.05.57.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:57:43 -0800 (PST) From: Nicolas Kozic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: macboopro can't boot the boot stage 2 after an OpenBSD install. Message-Id: <7ABE6E02-6681-4C9B-B69E-79F029DDA5A7@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:57:39 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:57:47 -0000 Hello FreeBSD Users, I seriously need help to boot to the install disc of FreeBSD. I recently = installed OpenBSD 5.4 on my MacBook Pro and it put a mess in my bios or = hard drive, I don=92t know exactly. I can boot on FreeBSD boot stage 1 = but not the stage 2. I tried a command like =93 boot = /dev/cdrom/boot/boot/kernel=94 but nothing happens. Help me because I = have to do my work dev on FreeBSD. Thank you in advance for help, Nicolas Kozic.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 13:59:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 850D9B82 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-f173.google.com (mail-qc0-f173.google.com [209.85.216.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34E2013AB for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id i8so5884945qcq.32 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:59:12 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4m3LvzqqLWjjyqQI6YVZs8eARa/+fVnC4twI8Impjdo=; b=nJSxbiIN1VWt81IhPfXWQd9mifCFECbNQW8GeGmn4goSgWYuF8B6qD3idqmBuWm4o4 z+C1RAfMuMs/KyZS4M4nN0BLhZb3uhLB3JWdwSLcJ+NIy9jpdv1YsdSy/RDRo+2SOoLk 1sU0AfN57mAc8R99jUkrnOVzFFAmOjTCHdMnQw5W4S5/S0kA4Xim8uzSogsRVGLMXhgC kpQ90PM4dG8jhZ2zx/0s5QyJ0hPpdiionJbnAbpTv2V7foXoWv4tH9rM7X5MpXD9KHNK cuf1IeQrbOLkehUzicS2PeIVVzgGthBcCxaQ11I9laY5ZyIkAmUc9OxDKJlNqD4pMRNE h8iQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmWxKZoDt3MOffCMDBZo/cqVupa5cMn1+e39m0vYEQTEmXoc1h2Elxrns5c1Wo2MJIkKhnN MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.98.33 with SMTP id n30mr27069463qge.8.1390658351964; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:59:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.193.8 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:59:11 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [184.148.68.164] Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:59:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Field delimiter in sort program in freebsd From: Shayan Pooya To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:59:13 -0000 Hello, How can I use the ascii character 0xff as the field delimiter for the FreeBSD sort program? On bash on Linux I use the following: $ sort -t $'\xff' -z to sort a set of null terminated lines where each field is separated by a \xff. The FreeBSD 10 manual page says it has the -t option, but I am not sure how I should give it the option to use a specific character. On tcsh: % sort -t $'\xff' Illegal variable name. On bash: sort -t $'\xfe' works fine, but: $ sort -t $'\xff' complains: sort: Invalid argument (Just in case, this is the piece of code that runs on MacOS and Linux but not on FreeBSD: https://github.com/discoproject/disco/blob/develop/lib/disco/compat.py#L79because of this issue). Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 14:13:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24F8AE22 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C8CB1516 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s0PEDbtr038578; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:13:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <52E3C691.8090000@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:13:37 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shayan Pooya , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Field delimiter in sort program in freebsd References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:13:41 -0000 On 2014-01-25 14:59, Shayan Pooya wrote: > Hello, > > How can I use the ascii character 0xff as the field delimiter for the > FreeBSD sort program? > On bash on Linux I use the following: > $ sort -t $'\xff' -z > to sort a set of null terminated lines where each field is separated by a > \xff. > > The FreeBSD 10 manual page says it has the -t option, but I am not sure how > I should give it the option to use a specific character. > > On tcsh: > % sort -t $'\xff' > Illegal variable name. $ is a variable, and you have not defined it. $ by it self means the first word on the line ie sort. So your line expands to: $ sort -t sort'\xff' NB I AM NOT A PROGRAMMER! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 14:31:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B8EBFF7 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC065165C for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5DCBC66D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.203.198.109]) (authenticated bits=128) by land.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0PEUuTb076223; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:30:57 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s0PEQ491019051; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:26:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0PEPkI2025474; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:25:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201401251425.s0PEPkI2025474@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Kata Goto Subject: Re: Unable to boot on USB key on Lenovo Thinkpad T440 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:47:53 +0100." Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:25:46 +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:31:14 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Kata Goto > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:47:53 +0100 Kata Goto wrote: > Hello all, > > I recently (this week), recieved a Lenovo Thinkpad T440 and I want to > install FreeBSD, so I have disabled the secure boot and force the legacy > boot mode only. > Then I have downloaded an USB image and write it via > $ dd if=FreeBSD-9.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=64k > > (I also tried with 10.0-RELEASE) > And my laptop refuses to boot on it, even if I force to boot on it (via > ). > My USB key works well on other computers (they boot on it) and my laptop > boots well on an Ubuntu USB key. > I have also tried to boot on an external CD Drive, but nothing change :/ > > I am running out of ideas. > If you have the same issue or new ideas, please, let me know. > > In advance, > Thanks for your help. Check md5 from freebsd.org with md5 from file on your hard disk Check md5 from freebsd.org with md5 from your USB stick. USB sticks do develop unrecoverable bad sectors (2 of my sandisk have over time (just to counter the good name given by another sandisk user ;-) Try the stick on another PC. Describe how far the boot gets `nothing' leaves readers guessing. Try booting off pre installed USB hard disk. Try a net boot via BIOS & ethernet Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Interleave replies below like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text, not quoted-printable, HTML, base64, or multipart/alternative. 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That explains the error message. What is the correct way of doing it in tcsh though? 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[80.229.5.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gd5sm15270757wic.0.2014.01.25.07.51.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 07:51:07 -0800 (PST) From: James Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg command to remove multiple packages Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:51:05 +0000 Message-ID: <1481503.WyXhS8WgeP@kontrol.kode5.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.10.5 (FreeBSD/10.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <52E39294.3010106@FreeBSD.org> References: <52E38EB5.3080604@gmail.com> <52E39294.3010106@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:51:10 -0000 On Saturday 25 January 2014 10:31:48 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 25/01/2014 10:15, James Griffin wrote: > > Hi > > > > With this new pkgng thing, if I use 'pkg delete -R -x xfce' will it > > remove all the stuff related to the xfce4 installation. I had to use > > ports to build xfce4 because there wasn't a meta-pkg to install (at > > least not that I could find), but i'm using kde4 now instead. Could do > > with the disk space. > > > > I guess that command won't find a few bits like thunar and some libs. > > 'pkg deinstall -R pkgname' deletes pkgname and everything that requires > pkgname, which is 90% of what you need. > > The remaining 10% can be cleaned up by: > > pkg autoremove > > This deletes packages that were installed solely to fulfill the > dependencies of pkgname -- if you're building your packages locally with > portmaster / portupgrade or similar, it should try and remove any build > dependencies[*] too, which may or may not be what you want. Also, it > won't remove a package if something else has subsequently been installed > that also requires it. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [*] pkg(8) only ever considers run-time dependencies. Are you sure 'pkg deinstall ...' is right? I don't see deinstall as an available argument to use. Am I missing something here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 18:45:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9702722D for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D2C81898 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0PIj7Uk045288 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:45:08 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s0PIj7Uk045288 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1390675508; bh=l9m3Xt2UsW53AVBonVyJ5D+NAbi2Wt42fce/FompFYo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sat,=2025=20Jan=202014=2018:44:56=20+0000|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20pkg=20command=20to=20remove=20mul tiple=20packages|References:=20<52E38EB5.3080604@gmail.com>=20<52E 39294.3010106@FreeBSD.org>=20<1481503.WyXhS8WgeP@kontrol.kode5.net >|In-Reply-To:=20<1481503.WyXhS8WgeP@kontrol.kode5.net>; b=yjphS6YCBkq8io8xez9IFBbdEqDW2B2pOSIvCy8Km3P4ANoCzOkLhqtTgWx1mJj6C 3mt5kcPWRlbn+1B6G6XfPD7c3wXAndo2u3+P1WFWwj+cnLQodRKTsoihhiYVy4XxdH dwmppFvagXApMZh0BctKAW62eqZ9eTRceoDA8wHk= Message-ID: <52E40628.2050505@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:44:56 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg command to remove multiple packages References: <52E38EB5.3080604@gmail.com> <52E39294.3010106@FreeBSD.org> <1481503.WyXhS8WgeP@kontrol.kode5.net> In-Reply-To: <1481503.WyXhS8WgeP@kontrol.kode5.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=E7F39EBF Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ueGKAOtEq22HjRDTTRk60he2nraj3QFD9" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DCC_CHECK,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:45:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ueGKAOtEq22HjRDTTRk60he2nraj3QFD9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/01/2014 15:51, James Griffin wrote: > On Saturday 25 January 2014 10:31:48 Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 25/01/2014 10:15, James Griffin wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> With this new pkgng thing, if I use 'pkg delete -R -x xfce' will it >>> remove all the stuff related to the xfce4 installation. I had to use >>> ports to build xfce4 because there wasn't a meta-pkg to install (at >>> least not that I could find), but i'm using kde4 now instead. Could=20 > do >>> with the disk space. >>> >>> I guess that command won't find a few bits like thunar and some=20 > libs. >> >> 'pkg deinstall -R pkgname' deletes pkgname and everything that=20 > requires >> pkgname, which is 90% of what you need. >> >> The remaining 10% can be cleaned up by: >> >> pkg autoremove >> >> This deletes packages that were installed solely to fulfill the >> dependencies of pkgname -- if you're building your packages locally=20 > with >> portmaster / portupgrade or similar, it should try and remove any=20 > build >> dependencies[*] too, which may or may not be what you want. Also,=20 > it >> won't remove a package if something else has subsequently been=20 > installed >> that also requires it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> [*] pkg(8) only ever considers run-time dependencies. >=20 > Are you sure 'pkg deinstall ...' is right? I don't see deinstall as an = > available argument to use. Am I missing something here? Err -- no. It's 'pkg delete' --- "pkg deinstall" is just something my fingers want to produce in defiance of my brain. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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[81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f9sm16317405wib.3.2014.01.25.11.12.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:12:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52E40C82.7050302@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:12:02 +0000 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: ZFS confusion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:12:08 -0000 Hi, I'm really confused about something so I hope someone can help me clear the fog up.... basically I'm about to setup a ZFS RAIDZ3 pool and having discovered this site: https://calomel.org/zfs_raid_speed_capacity.html as a reference for disk quantity got totally confused. Though in addition have checked out these sites too: https://blogs.oracle.com/ahl/entry/triple_parity_raid_z http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/06/03/howto-create-raidz2-pool/ http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/05/26/zfs-raid-levels/ http://www.linux.org/threads/zettabyte-file-system-zfs.4619/ Implementing a test ZFS pool on my old FreeBSD 8.3 box using dd derived vdevs coupled with reading the man page for zpool found that raidz3 needs a minimum of 4 disks to work. However, according to the above mentioned site for triple parity one should use 5 disks in 2+3 format. My confusion is this: does the 2+3 mean 2 disks in the pool with 3 hot spares or does it mean 5 disks in the pool? As in: zpool create raidz3 disk1 disk2 disk3 disk4 disk5 In addition to my testing I was looking at ease of expansion... ie. growing the pool, so is doing something like this: zpool create raidz3 disk1 disk2 disk3 disk4 Then when I needed to expand just do: zpool add raidz3 disk5 disk6 disk7 disk8 which gets: pool: testpool state: ONLINE status: The pool is formatted using a legacy on-disk format. The pool can still be used, but some features are unavailable. action: Upgrade the pool using 'zpool upgrade'. Once this is done, the pool will no longer be accessible on software that does not support feature flags. scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM testpool ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz3-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk1 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk2 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk3 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk4 ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz3-1 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk5 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk6 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk7 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk8 ONLINE 0 0 0 ---------- The same as this: ---------- pool: testpool state: ONLINE status: The pool is formatted using a legacy on-disk format. The pool can still be used, but some features are unavailable. action: Upgrade the pool using 'zpool upgrade'. Once this is done, the pool will no longer be accessible on software that does not support feature flags. scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM testpool ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz3-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk1 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk2 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk3 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk4 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk5 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk6 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk7 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/disk8 ONLINE 0 0 0 ?? Of course using the 1st method there is extra meta data involved but not too much especially with TB drives. Having created a zfs filesystem on top of both setups, the fs will grow over the 1st scenario to utilize disks 5 through 8 added later; while of course with the second setup the filesystem is already created over all 8 disks. In a real situation however, the above would certainly be 5 disks at a time to gain the triple parity, with ZIL and L2ARC on SSD's and hot swap spares. The reason am asking the above is that I've got a new enclosure with up to 26 disk capacity and need to create a stable environment and make best use of the space. So another words, maximum redundancy with max capacity allowed per method: which would be raidz1..3 and of course raidz3 offers the best redundancy but yet has much more capacity then a raid1+0 setup. My intention was to grab 5 disks to start with then expand as necessary plus 2 SSD's for ZIL+L2ARC using (raid0 mirroring and raid1 mirroring consecutively) and then 3x hot swap spares and use lz4 compression on the filesystem. With FreeBSD 10.0 as base OS... my current 8.3 must be EOL now though on a different box so no matter :-) Hopefully someone can help me understanding the above. Many thanks. Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 19:13:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E26A7D26 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 667531A9C for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (host86-163-127-175.range86-163.btcentralplus.com [86.163.127.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0PJD5IZ084480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:13:05 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:13:08 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Why was nslookup removed from FreeBSD 10? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:13:13 -0000 Unbelievable, but true - someone somewhere thought that removing nslookup from the base system was the way to go. Why? Can anyone shed any light on how this decision was made? That's the question. The remainder are a few observations to save an obvious response... nslookup has been deprecated in some quarters for while now, with that annoying message asking people to use dig instead, although ISC changed its mind on this point after BIND 9.8. That's not a reason, and anyway, dig is missing too. Was it dropped because it's part on BIND, and that's been dropped from the base system (bad idea if you ask me, but no one did)? Well, as far as I can tell, this move has left us having to use "host" instead, and that's part of the BIND package too. What's next? Will someone get the bright idea that "ls" is a bit dated and/or unfamiliar to Microsofties and replace it with "dir"? (And EVEN WINDOWS has nslookup). If I wanted an OS that lacked features such as DNS out of the box, I'd have chosen Linux. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 19:30:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 980CE37B for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-x235.google.com (mail-bk0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4008:c01::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DB1D1CE0 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id my13so1965340bkb.26 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:30:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=umgmmgEjU3DENTQKxdbfQfYyNlBoCT1PaaHqd20QVnk=; b=YR3R3LSszN8bGrZXc/17KHSfK9SpMcYuvo4gvaWshceMVXGEV2gAu1rEWfXm8PE5am L135TnY5bDKLMl6Nkwlsz6CZo7F4WyeNpvpob+oa4kWdsBXc/dI5mDbhIK8IXYQpEzGn l+MyTdaUnvVBtd1OKW8oN4WypOi/FLC3O297w5Gtx5iVmiL3x4478QAnnSATa+NUktSI bJXUCtMKvfuZleZcRJgr4/YHHlS/xBqhZ2AZ+OjPgZRIJyyTT6WjLoWH82f3PQIPl/fN 8D7Hzze7iCBWK/9SdsjOeYNFkkO0QzwUW4hbe7lb9XD5a1o3Oj6g4ZFyT7xE+/1PMmvR PbCA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.197.203 with SMTP id el11mr14923570bkb.24.1390678207391; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:30:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.123.193 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:30:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> References: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 11:30:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why was nslookup removed from FreeBSD 10? From: Waitman Gobble To: Frank Leonhardt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:30:09 -0000 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > > Was it dropped because it's part on BIND, and that's been dropped from the > base system (bad idea if you ask me, but no one did)? Well, as far as I can > tell, this move has left us having to use "host" instead, and that's part > of the BIND package too. > > AFAIK nslookup is part of bind, which was dropped from base and instead unbound. http://www.freebsdnews.net/2013/09/20/freebsd-10s-new-technologies-and-features/ -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 19:38:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BE52887 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from the-host.seacom.mu (ge-0.ln-01-mba.ke.seacomnet.com [41.87.100.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 563791D54 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=the-host.localnet) by the-host.seacom.mu with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1W793E-0007f1-3N; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:37:56 +0200 From: Mark Tinka Organization: SEACOM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why was nslookup removed from FreeBSD 10? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:37:49 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.37.6-24-desktop; KDE/4.6.0; i686; ; ) References: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1567129.qSjGgZx2VF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201401252137.50132.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> Cc: Frank Leonhardt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark.tinka@seacom.mu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:38:16 -0000 --nextPart1567129.qSjGgZx2VF Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, January 25, 2014 09:13:08 PM Frank Leonhardt=20 wrote: > Unbelievable, but true - someone somewhere thought that > removing nslookup from the base system was the way to > go. >=20 > Why? Can anyone shed any light on how this decision was > made? If you read: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html Under the "2.3. Userland Changes" section, you will notice: "BIND has been removed from the base system. unbound(8), which is maintained by NLnet Labs, has been imported to support local DNS resolution functionality with DNSSEC. Note that it is not a replacement of BIND and the latest versions of BIND is still available in the Ports Collection. With this change, nslookup and dig are no longer a part of the base system. Users should instead use host(1) and drill(1) Alternatively, nslookup and dig can be obtained by installing dns/bind-tools port. [r255949]" So install /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools and you're a happy guy. As to the philosophy of it all, no point arguing. Fait=20 accompli. Mark. --nextPart1567129.qSjGgZx2VF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJS5BKOAAoJEGcZuYTeKm+GyYUP/RDSxeyaev0tS8YmbkpPVhwd t2/mTPlqJ+9qC4FNh18aDZnXGm1Y+uSk/a81t039YfYxmUqpt+e+GGXrYeRmgXG5 Jab+jUKhhaP5GNm/aihsix2IN104Z6AJ8qZ99K+HU8HkPj570iX9oWFzoOKXVZlY 5zuObKdw6SDww3qJHWqPrOZJ0L7wQ/NnZveaBw+pCBhDBViEXdwa4ZvMNANrjC5o A1fHyVfxM9MMb50cm7UuStSFN+ZdF0/LE/BE1Al0AHoY4g5fzj4s4QleyoDm6ZEA oTAychiOL+54RH/nQXaTzYneIjtT0J5UdJ1r5X0OXkEnrymVvZOG4mv1i2LKcKCC 69wO/s0OxdzpQdWlmQaiTV5yCpyAzv9NDc+ynnxwf9P86vUO3bIegioZbNps5Cf9 sO0XhBqeSnNvSTFODZXDyIq9NmDr91akykROrx0natIUbLLgITqRHbx3kSX2nnSB rgX1jZd2fbgkskEy5DnfJtpgW4qjLY5axGpOwBOXlOQY9U64KPSUH1Y1nl9aGm/u /uSq5hIkd1PM1v9Nl2ocaSQ/mkimHl5tU9Sx84D7UUbaC5odgsPKe2n9jBvR+OM+ JZFrjyvCzFcTEMXkSP3Woa2qbIjt063S5wzq4IF0YB9ZMK+brZVtohrrK4CFApfR OCIHKXjdh8k7sHUKuoqN =wgMH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1567129.qSjGgZx2VF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 19:52:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9585FF9 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DCFA1EA2 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (host86-163-127-175.range86-163.btcentralplus.com [86.163.127.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0PJqs4b093002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:52:54 GMT (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:52:57 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why was nslookup removed from FreeBSD 10? References: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> <201401252137.50132.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> In-Reply-To: <201401252137.50132.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:52:56 -0000 On 25/01/2014 19:37, Mark Tinka wrote: > On Saturday, January 25, 2014 09:13:08 PM Frank Leonhardt > wrote: > >> Unbelievable, but true - someone somewhere thought that >> removing nslookup from the base system was the way to >> go. >> >> Why? Can anyone shed any light on how this decision was >> made? > If you read: > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html > > Under the "2.3. Userland Changes" section, you will notice: > > "BIND has been removed from the base system. > unbound(8), which is maintained by NLnet Labs, has > been imported to support local DNS resolution > functionality with DNSSEC. Note that it is not a > replacement of BIND and the latest versions of BIND > is still available in the Ports Collection. With > this change, nslookup and dig are no longer a part > of the base system. Users should instead use > host(1) and drill(1) Alternatively, nslookup and > dig can be obtained by installing dns/bind-tools > port. [r255949]" > > So install /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools and you're a happy guy. > > As to the philosophy of it all, no point arguing. Fait > accompli. > > Mark. As you and Waitman both pointed out, nslookup IS part of BIND, yet as I said in the diatribe following the question in my post, so is "host" and that's still there. Also Windoze has nslookup but doesn't include BIND. I agree there's no point arguing unless you know the rational behind what appears an arbitrary decision; hence my question. Was this simply an oversight or is there a thought-out reason for it that one can take issue with? IIRC, nslookup was present in 4.3BSD, and I'm pretty sure it existed before that. (That's BSD, not FreeBSD). Its relied on in scripts. The reason for dropping it from the base system must be pretty spectacular. FreeBSD 10.0 might be better known as FreeBSD Vista, at this rate. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 20:20:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9A11E5E for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com (mail-wg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50F101216 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id z12so4146961wgg.18 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:20:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VQ5SXEVUM77lH/9E7a4VnlFo4XkoGsqUrFRd4ARjtPc=; b=r+jEqc5AetvxumzdVhtDbRntWrkxOiZAeDVcS/FNIZen8n3DwBruVJYX3KNIcNh96d C5x6+PVnm6eauZZ+Z+vPncWs1yKrd4grkAlr72PZsCoj+sCHS7LlCbo00BpDAVaOfpWx hnlwWaWProrVPvyLieMfza86jZdIJE94Z3Ev6IRVCIWt1yuiRNjpKmLb65YzKIXNcVV4 9NBX86OngoFUVVEsNJyfGQ6Zrvp/midC+4499uzGUd45dQ7aNDumeq2RCu8oaC/cr8A/ 96iK1BwqQfg5+Vcdx7c4NL+M1wGSNsIKP9fTBK0iIuc1Er5Os/jig+2MywW+O7lHG89g TNBw== X-Received: by 10.180.149.206 with SMTP id uc14mr5451266wib.10.1390681239852; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:20:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-112-13.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.112.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hv3sm15374119wib.5.2014.01.25.12.20.38 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:20:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:20:38 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why was nslookup removed from FreeBSD 10? Message-ID: <20140125202038.125a4264@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk> References: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> <201401252137.50132.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:20:41 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:52:57 +0000 Frank Leonhardt wrote: > As you and Waitman both pointed out, nslookup IS part of BIND, yet as > I said in the diatribe following the question in my post, so is > "host" and that's still there.=20 =46rom the host manpage: COMPATIBILITY host aims to be reasonably compatible with `host' utility from BIND9 distribution,=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 20:26:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3734F30C for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x235.google.com (mail-oa0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFAAD12AF for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id m1so5277994oag.12 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:26:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=ejTXRQgymuBnMk+6h35GVPN2n3SM3MqUiCWYKoI7uVM=; b=toFmD9nIbrg+/+kQH3mimjZRxSp4C1C+6paEAK6YIhbR9yFBDRaX1bJ2X1Z0hC/9Ff /p2onrZh80yhF7pPFeaiO9LZKqyIlwXJ5Pn3F8dSTgjlTS30tuKCCn1yX7vcYQe9qBrG ERsSCgxaL6db/r7yEkUHZHnPaXELkd2dm899u8Ny+sXkC1kXAiAnJFk94csNGrWJEfOC BHkFqz3kc8odMmUPt8/HAvw9YI2JamgKYIKntEE3tkDo6tANiiahmWLbZFIWDv8i+PNd qCNo0bgZBIMYz5hQMAtp4MLU1vYEs/s/++iz4e/tPLiiVwKJttU2+kYqVNY5HgDhnjtR GSQg== X-Received: by 10.60.45.38 with SMTP id j6mr8203822oem.2.1390681586200; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (pool-71-164-175-115.dllstx.fios.verizon.net. [71.164.175.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xs17sm33767033oeb.1.2014.01.25.12.26.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:26:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Why was nslookup removed from FreeBSD 10? References: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> <201401252137.50132.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk> From: Matthew Pherigo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B554a) In-Reply-To: <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk> Message-Id: <97A0F01F-3E78-47D6-BDD6-ECE45D1BC45C@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:26:26 -0600 To: Frank Leonhardt , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:26:27 -0000 To my understanding, almost half of all the security vulnerabilities in the e= ntire lifetime of the FreeBSD project have been from BIND. Personally, I'd s= ay that's "pretty spectacular." --Matt > On Jan 25, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Frank Leonhardt wrote: >=20 >> On 25/01/2014 19:37, Mark Tinka wrote: >> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 09:13:08 PM Frank Leonhardt >> wrote: >>=20 >>> Unbelievable, but true - someone somewhere thought that >>> removing nslookup from the base system was the way to >>> go. >>>=20 >>> Why? Can anyone shed any light on how this decision was >>> made? >> If you read: >>=20 >> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html >>=20 >> Under the "2.3. Userland Changes" section, you will notice: >>=20 >> "BIND has been removed from the base system. >> unbound(8), which is maintained by NLnet Labs, has >> been imported to support local DNS resolution >> functionality with DNSSEC. Note that it is not a >> replacement of BIND and the latest versions of BIND >> is still available in the Ports Collection. With >> this change, nslookup and dig are no longer a part >> of the base system. Users should instead use >> host(1) and drill(1) Alternatively, nslookup and >> dig can be obtained by installing dns/bind-tools >> port. [r255949]" >>=20 >> So install /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools and you're a happy guy. >>=20 >> As to the philosophy of it all, no point arguing. Fait >> accompli. >>=20 >> Mark. > As you and Waitman both pointed out, nslookup IS part of BIND, yet as I sa= id in the diatribe following the question in my post, so is "host" and that'= s still there. Also Windoze has nslookup but doesn't include BIND. I agree t= here's no point arguing unless you know the rational behind what appears an a= rbitrary decision; hence my question. Was this simply an oversight or is the= re a thought-out reason for it that one can take issue with? >=20 > IIRC, nslookup was present in 4.3BSD, and I'm pretty sure it existed befor= e that. (That's BSD, not FreeBSD). Its relied on in scripts. The reason for d= ropping it from the base system must be pretty spectacular. >=20 > FreeBSD 10.0 might be better known as FreeBSD Vista, at this rate. >=20 > Regards, Frank. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 20:55:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 741F3688 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-x22b.google.com (mail-bk0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4008:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC9E615E0 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id mx11so2000411bkb.16 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:55:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=iVhiMztbLr6cu00+5TPK5LaU8P8L2C3zXW0KjNelH10=; b=lUW+jhtg/3y/0W1nxhgiBVJHxuEZ3W9TpxnBt+qte1jvpjVUN2UDaOisMnD0d+dBtB LIP5DuY2ulCsEm2OBqMyujwK3Ed85rLQiCAwCSYteSyo41nO/wOrYnQv6wn6Y2vMaY3x RZeIfZ4ESgQXZp6FPzR6hm0bYLI4LYrYKDmBUX3hxnkDx7DbHRW7l1qqqtxxGSE7NjMh gpVz1doIoM95xF262Uo0mdYoQF7p+v+FxMHmlYa1OILWMZT5X8vqm9UU/IdTGXv3xgZD pk8QhILApV9/KAii+o4UTtwmvFH5SDED6VfNbS+FtQhZeS4IC69SbuWEuUCzNmqR00Rp Nmlw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.177.142 with SMTP id bi14mr3324406bkb.84.1390683345136; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:55:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.123.193 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:55:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk> References: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> <201401252137.50132.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:55:45 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why was nslookup removed from FreeBSD 10? From: Waitman Gobble To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:55:47 -0000 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 25/01/2014 19:37, Mark Tinka wrote: > >> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 09:13:08 PM Frank Leonhardt >> wrote: >> >> Unbelievable, but true - someone somewhere thought that >>> removing nslookup from the base system was the way to >>> go. >>> >>> Why? Can anyone shed any light on how this decision was >>> made? >>> >> If you read: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html >> >> Under the "2.3. Userland Changes" section, you will notice: >> >> "BIND has been removed from the base system. >> unbound(8), which is maintained by NLnet Labs, has >> been imported to support local DNS resolution >> functionality with DNSSEC. Note that it is not a >> replacement of BIND and the latest versions of BIND >> is still available in the Ports Collection. With >> this change, nslookup and dig are no longer a part >> of the base system. Users should instead use >> host(1) and drill(1) Alternatively, nslookup and >> dig can be obtained by installing dns/bind-tools >> port. [r255949]" >> >> So install /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools and you're a happy guy. >> >> As to the philosophy of it all, no point arguing. Fait >> accompli. >> >> Mark. >> > As you and Waitman both pointed out, nslookup IS part of BIND, yet as I > said in the diatribe following the question in my post, so is "host" and > that's still there. Also Windoze has nslookup but doesn't include BIND. I > agree there's no point arguing unless you know the rational behind what > appears an arbitrary decision; hence my question. Was this simply an > oversight or is there a thought-out reason for it that one can take issue > with? > > IIRC, nslookup was present in 4.3BSD, and I'm pretty sure it existed > before that. (That's BSD, not FreeBSD). Its relied on in scripts. The > reason for dropping it from the base system must be pretty spectacular. > > FreeBSD 10.0 might be better known as FreeBSD Vista, at this rate. > > > Regards, Frank. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > You might try 'drill' in contrib/ldns http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/release/10.0.0/contrib/ldns/drill/drill.c?view=log -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 21:03:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB43BAF7 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E4AD1699 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (host86-163-127-175.range86-163.btcentralplus.com [86.163.127.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0PL3mRC000197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:03:49 GMT (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52E426B8.3080905@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:03:52 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why was nslookup removed from FreeBSD 10? References: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> <201401252137.50132.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk> <20140125202038.125a4264@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140125202038.125a4264@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:03:53 -0000 On 25/01/2014 20:20, RW wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:52:57 +0000 > Frank Leonhardt wrote: > > >> As you and Waitman both pointed out, nslookup IS part of BIND, yet as >> I said in the diatribe following the question in my post, so is >> "host" and that's still there. > >From the host manpage: > > COMPATIBILITY > host aims to be reasonably compatible with `host' utility from > BIND9 distribution, Yes - I read that too, and assumed it means it's a derived work until I'd checked the source code. It's contributed, but part of ldns and not bind. By removing bind from the base system in favour of ldns based stuff, it could mean that its just the case that no one wrote an ldns version of nslookup or dig; only host. This is one of my theories as to the answer. It's worth noting that one of the criticisms I've heard of nslookup has been that it DOESN'T use BIND as a resolver and works in its self-contained way, and is therefore not valid as a DNS (meaning BIND) debugging tool. However, it should mean that it's stand-alone - hence the Windoze port (which used to contain incriminating strings showing it was pinched from BSD!) So if you prefer a slightly rephrased question: Why has someone written "host" for FreeBSD 10.0 but neglected to provide nslookup (or dig)? As to Matt's comment that "almost half of all the security vulnerabilities in the entire lifetime of the FreeBSD project have been from BIND. Personally, I'd say that's "pretty spectacular."" - I'd say that's these security vulnerabilities are more to do with DNS the protocol rather than BIND the implementation. Whoever would have thought that criminals would have got their hands on computers? By removing BIND and not replacing it with anything (apart from a local resolver) will, I guess, meet your security needs. But I'm talking about nslookup, not the whole of BIND and all its utilities. I've never heard of a security problem with nslookup. Except, of course, with the Micro$soft version ;-) There must be a discussion about how the decision was taken somewhere, mustn't there? If there isn't, its looking like an accident. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 21:32:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C6679DD for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EDEF18E3 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (host86-163-127-175.range86-163.btcentralplus.com [86.163.127.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0PLWfNo002703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:32:41 GMT (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52E42D7C.3010905@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:32:44 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Why was nslookup removed from FreeBSD 10? References: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> <201401252137.50132.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:32:44 -0000 On 25/01/2014 20:55, Waitman Gobble wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > >> On 25/01/2014 19:37, Mark Tinka wrote: >> >>> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 09:13:08 PM Frank Leonhardt >>> wrote: >>> >>> Unbelievable, but true - someone somewhere thought that >>>> removing nslookup from the base system was the way to >>>> go. >>>> >>>> Why? Can anyone shed any light on how this decision was >>>> made? >>>> >>> If you read: >>> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html >>> >>> Under the "2.3. Userland Changes" section, you will notice: >>> >>> "BIND has been removed from the base system. >>> unbound(8), which is maintained by NLnet Labs, has >>> been imported to support local DNS resolution >>> functionality with DNSSEC. Note that it is not a >>> replacement of BIND and the latest versions of BIND >>> is still available in the Ports Collection. With >>> this change, nslookup and dig are no longer a part >>> of the base system. Users should instead use >>> host(1) and drill(1) Alternatively, nslookup and >>> dig can be obtained by installing dns/bind-tools >>> port. [r255949]" >>> >>> So install /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools and you're a happy guy. >>> >>> As to the philosophy of it all, no point arguing. Fait >>> accompli. >>> >>> Mark. >>> >> As you and Waitman both pointed out, nslookup IS part of BIND, yet as I >> said in the diatribe following the question in my post, so is "host" and >> that's still there. Also Windoze has nslookup but doesn't include BIND. I >> agree there's no point arguing unless you know the rational behind what >> appears an arbitrary decision; hence my question. Was this simply an >> oversight or is there a thought-out reason for it that one can take issue >> with? >> >> IIRC, nslookup was present in 4.3BSD, and I'm pretty sure it existed >> before that. (That's BSD, not FreeBSD). Its relied on in scripts. The >> reason for dropping it from the base system must be pretty spectacular. >> >> FreeBSD 10.0 might be better known as FreeBSD Vista, at this rate. >> >> >> Regards, Frank. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > You might try 'drill' in contrib/ldns > > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/release/10.0.0/contrib/ldns/drill/drill.c?view=log > > I see - a dig clone called drill. Amusingly the man page refers to dig in the See Also, although it's not there. I don't know if drill is script-compatible with dig, but I was never a fan anyway. A quick snoop at NLnet's web site shows it as the only tool that goes with ldns. It's reasonable to remove multiplicity if you're going to have a revolution. I know I can compile and install BIND and get everything back, but this isn't my gripe. When a utility has been part of the base system for nearly 30 years, and has doubtless found itself used in plenty of scripts, you shouldn't just go around arbitrarily removing it. (And FWIW, I'm also one of the many worried by the prospect switching to BIND 10!) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 21:33:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE6D3A7C for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-x22b.google.com (mail-bk0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4008:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 427A118F9 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id mx11so2012447bkb.16 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:33:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1SdgTU59tUD3TKau/wubnbQLEH5XZpgCr6I346VnAk4=; b=k9fo5o4OP8+1B9zLZpHYTKOyRPFpVZ49YlBmOqwy+Qy2NoohFSpw70xYJtv4GZDRXj xXHSWyGnQnJMvGEPMgi3PeZaF6eFidqww+Qzmfs/AV9JD/semWTQc5SRcTzgdtqvjFuV NiJmRY59xXtIe/GSPCvwxiMvrV/O5JsDFBn50CimLvt8HIOtZJO2Xgih3znU/DNwZXdv UlM/JLc3g2vMZlqWlcRQXLNSn9OJmeWpC8z030pG9kMrvCgJSQ2jTi+fvlTFIj5WCvJS aEvVetTJN7PcmqfqVlUkep98daoTKqpYyIyrH0auecV1Gngp7zTk5hoRPwPebW4kVi/n lirg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.126.206 with SMTP id d14mr3154729bks.13.1390685634638; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:33:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.123.193 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:33:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52E426B8.3080905@fjl.co.uk> References: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> <201401252137.50132.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk> <20140125202038.125a4264@gumby.homeunix.com> <52E426B8.3080905@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:33:54 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why was nslookup removed from FreeBSD 10? From: Waitman Gobble To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:33:56 -0000 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 25/01/2014 20:20, RW wrote: > >> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:52:57 +0000 >> Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> >> >> As you and Waitman both pointed out, nslookup IS part of BIND, yet as >>> I said in the diatribe following the question in my post, so is >>> "host" and that's still there. >>> >> >From the host manpage: >> >> COMPATIBILITY >> host aims to be reasonably compatible with `host' utility from >> BIND9 distribution, >> > > Yes - I read that too, and assumed it means it's a derived work until I'd > checked the source code. It's contributed, but part of ldns and not bind. > By removing bind from the base system in favour of ldns based stuff, it > could mean that its just the case that no one wrote an ldns version of > nslookup or dig; only host. This is one of my theories as to the answer. > > It's worth noting that one of the criticisms I've heard of nslookup has > been that it DOESN'T use BIND as a resolver and works in its self-contained > way, and is therefore not valid as a DNS (meaning BIND) debugging tool. > However, it should mean that it's stand-alone - hence the Windoze port > (which used to contain incriminating strings showing it was pinched from > BSD!) > > So if you prefer a slightly rephrased question: Why has someone written > "host" for FreeBSD 10.0 but neglected to provide nslookup (or dig)? > > As to Matt's comment that "almost half of all the security vulnerabilities > in the entire lifetime of the FreeBSD project have been from BIND. > Personally, I'd say that's "pretty spectacular."" - I'd say that's these > security vulnerabilities are more to do with DNS the protocol rather than > BIND the implementation. Whoever would have thought that criminals would > have got their hands on computers? By removing BIND and not replacing it > with anything (apart from a local resolver) will, I guess, meet your > security needs. But I'm talking about nslookup, not the whole of BIND and > all its utilities. I've never heard of a security problem with nslookup. > Except, of course, with the Micro$soft version ;-) > > There must be a discussion about how the decision was taken somewhere, > mustn't there? If there isn't, its looking like an accident. > > Regards, Frank. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I believe the reasoning.. because BIND is a full-featured authoritative name server (and much more), unbound has a much more narrow aim. unbound also has BSD license. (ISC is similar). Anyway, So far I like my experimental BIND10 authoritative nameserver much better than my BIND9 servers, but I can't see how BIND10 would ever be part of base. That wouldn't work. -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 21:51:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D53D0445 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 958821A71 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D174924F94; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:51:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0PLp15G002014; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:51:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:51:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Florian Smeets Subject: Re: Half naked woman answering my posts to this list Message-Id: <20140125225101.c92a5714.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52E3A9E7.4000300@smeets.im> References: <52E0C686.4000201@eskk.nu> <20140125085150.0ba19696@X220.alogt.com> <9400887.Cl6VNfUFA9@lumiwa.farms.net> <52E3A9E7.4000300@smeets.im> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:51:35 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:11:19 +0100, Florian Smeets wrote: > Currently the first report of this was around 14.01.2014, so if you > received messages like this earlier please tell us. I got my first one Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 21:52:12 -0800 from "Casey Lisa" , so the date should be correct. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 22:10:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E611AFE8 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A66F01CCF for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-155.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C7C324F94; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:10:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0PMAAku002142; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:10:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:10:10 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Shayan Pooya Subject: Re: Field delimiter in sort program in freebsd Message-Id: <20140125231010.b630559b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <52E3C691.8090000@bananmonarki.se> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:10:37 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:51:39 -0500, Shayan Pooya wrote: > Thanks. That explains the error message. What is the correct way of doing > it in tcsh though? I know it's probably one of the most overcomplicated and stupid approaches, but it seems to work: % sort -t `awk 'BEGIN { printf("%c", 0); }'` Please note that I've not tested this. The null byte has a special meaning, it's interpreted as "end of string" in C-style strings ("null terminated strings"), so having to use it as a field delimiter looks a bit strange. Maybe you could use a search and replace step _prior_ to sorting to get this resolved? Just a suggestion... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 23:24:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57A19502 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-f181.google.com (mail-qc0-f181.google.com [209.85.216.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11FA6115D for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id e9so6163231qcy.40 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:24:04 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sZ3CsChSWD23xvXMLj+UKHe7kzdjBU83CUD9XI9LOOY=; b=aTusJb54odBzRW9WkyPCjmA9iXujFa8b+O8WwnL/APyLjErs0at7kk4pjbS1Qp/N11 Ba8pKWOtAaNVbWhbTBo/md3yUQA3Iml+TRa8Gndlm+3r0NctnDEtVuM4x5rQiJgGM/Wt hrCm7TozgFPe3TAxrsn17MywXvGUUylLG+9vJqC+2rpg7I+HtOm3m8+awtBKNpAdWslE zG8ZmL97sAfqv8sDj81cf3wICOUwT5WxuwonKq1fjj1IRL/1BkvvZJpG8CGBVQgVvwnu oQID6knv9camWkjQ8e3L6oo32CcikybOLUowdWYUM6IvS1b6mSe6Rpr3G10Ff6etSzGT iL1A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmU41OxKCRaMdDqgmbTfPvd3gB7HKF5jh8/Kmol9LyTP17Bdi/vL1ls5WLNnViXVDC5P/Wv MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.121.67 with SMTP id g3mr1693355qar.78.1390692243936; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.163.9 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [184.148.68.164] In-Reply-To: References: <52E3C691.8090000@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:24:03 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Field delimiter in sort program in freebsd From: Shayan Pooya To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:24:11 -0000 I took a look at the source code of sort and saw this condition: if (sort_opts_vals.field_sep == WEOF) { errno = EINVAL; err(2, NULL); } https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/blob/master/usr.bin/sort/sort.c#L1063 Removing this condition and remaking sort fixes the issue (at least I can use bash to give 0xff to the sort program, no luck with other shells though). Using \xff as the record separator makes sense for binary files. Any idea why there is such a condition in the sort program? Thanks.