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Date:      Wed, 23 May 2018 13:14:07 +0200
From:      Andreas Nilsson <andrnils@gmail.com>
To:        Philip Homburg <pch-fbsd-1@u-1.phicoh.com>
Cc:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, "K. Macy" <kmacy@freebsd.org>, "A. Wilcox" <AWilcox@wilcox-tech.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver
Message-ID:  <CAPS9%2BStT-%2BQPm2t=t5h77ehc5eeMXwCbtHf3ooCoUCPGgYPxHw@mail.gmail.com>
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References:  <201805222212.w4MMCdA9031937@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <m1fLQNs-0000G0C@stereo.hq.phicoh.net>

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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Philip Homburg <pch-fbsd-1@u-1.phicoh.com>
wrote:

> >Also as the Moore's law curve flattens expect the life of these
> >older, but not so old, machines to live quiet some time.  I
> >believe we are talking sandy bridge and earlier?  If that is
> >corret Sandy bridge is still a very viable system.
>
> I noticed this lack of love for older systems recently.
>
> I wanted to use an older Dell server to test the 11.2 BETAs and RCs.
>
> Turns out, you can't install FreeBSD using a USB stick image because the
> BIOS only support MBR. No idea why MBR support was dropped for the USB
> images.
>

It's not that hard create a mbr based usb-stick. Far easier than to find a
CD burner.

>
> In the end I had to find a CD burner, and after a couple of tries managed
> to
> install from CD.
>
> After that, my ansible playbooks started failing because /boot/loader.conf
> is absent if you boot from zfs in combination with MBR.
>
I believe boot/loader.conf is something you have to create, it is not there
by default.

>
> Pity. This older server hardware is great for trying out new releases,
> play
> with zfs, etc.
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