From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 14 14: 9:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF471526D; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr09.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17602; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:09:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr09.primenet.com(206.165.6.209) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd017573; Tue Sep 14 14:09:17 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20226; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:09:15 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199909142109.OAA20226@usr09.primenet.com> Subject: Re: ANSWER: "FreeBSD" registered by Walnut Creek To: walton@nordicrecords.com Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:09:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, brett@lariat.org, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990911040458.688.qmail@modgud.nordicrecords.com> from "Dave Walton" at Sep 10, 99 09:02:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > It's also annoying, because Jordan _must_ know this information > > himself, and is simply refusing to provide it for whatever reason, > > which just eggs Brett further on, with no end in sight. I respect > > both Brett and Jordan, but it seems to me that in this case Brett > > is being less resourceful than I've credited him, while Jordan is > > being more belligerant than I've credited him. Mostly it is my > > mislaid credit that annoys me, FWIW. > > I'm glad someone else feels the same way. As much as I respect > them, I was about ready to chide both of them for lack of any > attempt to resolve the debate when you came in and started > tossing facts around. Thanks. :) > > In their defense, I saw several instances where both sides fired off > knee-jerk responses and clearly did not take the time to read and > understand what the other was saying. So it's probably more a > matter of conditioned responses rather than belligerence or lack of > resourcefulness. > > But it *is* frustrating... Given Jordan's position as cat herder, and his recent posting on the issue, his silence is more understandable from the perspective of avoiding precipitating crisis. I don't think crisis is in the wings, really, since those of us who work for commercial players using FreeBSD typically credit it in the Free software movement, but not in advertising, since the legal caluse doesn't kick in until you mention it by name and/or call out specific features particular to the software. One thing that occurs to me is that Brett could offer to do the legwork on the trademark transfer. This doesn't satisfy Jordan's issue about the dilligent lawyer, though, so unless it's somehow mutually beneficial. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message