Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:19:02 +0200 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> To: Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net> Cc: Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl>, current@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: tmux(1) in base Message-ID: <4AB7C396.5050802@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <20090921173936.65F881CC37@ptavv.es.net> References: <20090921173936.65F881CC37@ptavv.es.net>
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Kevin Oberman wrote: >>Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:26:57 +0200 >>From: Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl> >>Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org >> >>Hi all, >> >>At the DevSummit in Cambridge we briefly discussed including tmux(1) in >>the base system. We recently had window(1) there, but unfortunately >>window(1) was a very limited tool, compared to tools like screen(1) and >>tmux(1). Why tmux(1) and not screen(1)? Well, simple. The first has a >>better license and very active maintenance. >> >>I was talking with the author on IRC the other day and it seemed like I >>spoke with him at a fortunate moment, because he was just about to >>release version 1.0. I think it would be nice to import this into HEAD, >>which means FreeBSD 9.0 (maybe 8.1?) will include it by default. >> >>How to test tmux in base: >> >>- Download this tarball and extract it to contrib/tmux: >> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/tmux/tmux-1.0.tar.gz >>- Apply the following patch: >> http://80386.nl/pub/tmux.diff >> >>Comments? > > > While I make fairly heavy use of screen(1), I am unclear on why this > functionality should be included in the base. I can (and do) install it > on most systems I build, but I can't see any systemic justification for > putting it in the base system. It just makes updating tmux > harder. Remember the fun of dealing with Perl when it was in the base > system? (Yes, Perl was probably about the worst possible case.) > > Unless a tool is maintained by the FreeBSD project or is so essential > that most it would be inadvisable to have a base system where it was > not available (ntp, SSL libraries, C compiler, ssh, ...), I really think > adding things to the base is best avoided. +1 from me. I am daily screen(1) user but I think it (tmux or screen) should stay as port. It is better to have minimalistic base and easily upgradable ports. Miroslav Lachman
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