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Date:      Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:17:19 -0500
From:      Valeri Galtsev <>
Subject:   Re: [OT] Is the IT Crowd re-inventing Unix with Virtualization, Docker and Microservices?
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On 9/13/18 4:04 PM, Makketron wrote:
> This is exactly why people get puzzled when they see a person in the team
> making a solution over a weekend, with no cost, instead of weeks.
> The irony is, they consider it a temporary solution, a hack so to speak,
> until fancier tools are used.
> Even funnier, when the switch happens, the tools tend to have higher
> downtime than a simple UNIX solution.

The whole new dominant way of doing IT sucks. And despite of that I 
still have my job.

I converted it from my usual: all systems suck, and thanks to that I 
have my job.


> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 12:16 AM Shane Ambler <> wrote:
>> On 12/9/18 4:40 am, Alejandro Imass wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I guess it's time for another food for thought email of like-minded
>>> FreeBSDers, as I am coming to a new conclusion about this whole
>> enterprise
>>> crap world of which I am so evermore fed up of...
>>> Oh yeah, that's right, high-level guys are too expensive? really?
>> compared
>>> to what? to the dozens and dozens of mediocre "coders", "devops",
>>> "techops"and whatever other "ops". Yeah, we are way more expensive but we
>>> are 50:1, maybe 100:1 compared the median in the "enterprise" side of
>>> things.
>> Good tech guys who know what to do don't use enough new fancy tech. It's
>> all about the buzzwords, the more your product uses the more money you
>> get to build it. The more layers, the more complex, the more people dumb
>> CEOs need to pay to setup and maintain it, but it has to be using the
>> newest, flashiest tech. If you have used the stuff before you need to go
>> and make a new one or two for the next project. One good guy can't
>> support an enterprise, it needs to be a group of dimwits that band
>> together and cover each others f*ups to support an enterprise.
>> I recall the Y2K bug, a well known telco employed about 80 people to
>> walk around to every desktop computer and manually run some script off a
>> server that checked installed programs and updated each one.
>> Well this telco has software installed on every desktop that allowed one
>> person to access every machine in the country, show reports of software
>> and versions installed, install, update or remotely control the GUI
>> desktop. The team I was on completed our two months work the first week,
>> so we got to use this to manually do the stupid steps on machines in
>> other states, after someone there had walked around to turn machines on.
>> It was all about one guy coming up with something that sounded complex
>> enough that the CEO can't understand but had enough buzzwords and parts
>> that it must be the solution to this dreaded Y2K problem.
>> --
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Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247

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