From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 07:20:01 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7584EF883 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DQZk83982z3Kpm for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=KTcwJUSV9oNYhwSeUDpGwFlyerDz8rZrC4i0O6m+Mb0=; b=j/TPGA7JnILHeZRN8Bl8q1bXFX 3YNYUbfhmT+zG+vskAihz0Y26EIDhcVq9vd0sBd/jyu2tYHfZEsvBcj5C3e8wsHtPg4yH33GCY6E0 SVMR4pa+Kqf80bHDh25wRUTkDT0TGhX+AkbbhpvM7a5BXvou8mnfPVkr8/NfOC8GzX7A=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1l4f7O-000EeQ-1e for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 14:19:58 +0700 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 14:19:58 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: References: <56586dc9179211205d9eb5ad03f8ae2c834b8809.camel@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="v3P/H1RwfL9GiV0M" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <56586dc9179211205d9eb5ad03f8ae2c834b8809.camel@riseup.net> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DQZk83982z3Kpm X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=j/TPGA7J; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.69 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.41)[0.409]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:20:01 -0000 --v3P/H1RwfL9GiV0M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ralf Mardorf wrote: > The grass is always greener on the other side. >=20 > On Wed, 2021-01-27 at 09:13 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > I think it's time to migrate to Linux for a desktop (after >20 years > > on FreeBSD). >=20 > Linux is a good choice to meet several needs, but Linux isn't a good > choice to get rid of Intel GPU issues, see > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2021-January/292754= =2Ehtml . Yes, I've read it in the thread. >=20 > > 2. Cyrillic filenames support in gvfs (or whatever that removable media > > automounter is called). >=20 > [root@archlinux rocketmouse]# pacman -Si gvfs | grep Description > Description : Virtual filesystem implementation for GIO >=20 > GIO is for Gnome Input/Output >=20 > Personally, I believe it's better to stay away from gvfs and GNOME, but > to fulfill dependencies against gvfs by installing empty dummy packages. Well, it's build in into the Xfce port and have not found a way to disable it (the userspace volume mounting) on FreeBSD/Xfce. >=20 > I'm using Linux every single day, mainly Arch Linux, second most Ubuntu. >=20 > [root@archlinux rocketmouse]# pacman -Qi gvfs | head -3 > Name : gvfs > Version : 2013.08.18-1 > Description : Dummy package > [root@archlinux rocketmouse]# systemd-nspawn -D /mnt/moonstudio 2>/dev/= null dpkg -l gvfs | grep ii > ii gvfs 2016:07-13-m all Dummy package >=20 > ;) I wish I had an easy way to disable this gvfs automounting stuff in FreeBSD= 's Xfce or Mate, then I'd probably switch to sysutils/automount or something like that. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --v3P/H1RwfL9GiV0M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJgERQeAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0hr0IAIyTleHNfykzGLZNRiKwrygB GcU+EEilOubvZdrmIyBhG+h6dSUKjb9k1rJkM2XZpBiwHyl2n/CRJjOJVPTKjyP1 dkYf1alYC1VEy9MzRJc1EPXDHR+lC0IS3uyBg5l2b6+y/00S92IwERGdZFigdnOW OsRP+Im3XvZO4GFBfXbLzI54amfwcdo4MCThYAwMUp5vrNXissdEXaVb8TlOaAsa Bq1VVT6YlJxcKLqYCrj+06/nXO7hVT6AvlvGfe3BcILCekg1xqMuTjVAkO13qkXZ O1cFcGkZiGZFiHJ1yUrFSCDfzF0L0yGwPb2T2UxeNN2Uf18IWg0RAkuVSN3ZIig= =JF6L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --v3P/H1RwfL9GiV0M--