From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 2 01:20:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA12253 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 01:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usr08.primenet.com (tlambert@usr08.primenet.com [206.165.6.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA12248 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 01:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA24323; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 01:20:05 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710020820.BAA24323@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Good Lord, Commercial Linux To: pgiffuni@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:20:05 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, Shimon@i-Connect.Net, jamil@counterintelligence.ml.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <34331F3E.3CD4@asme.org> from "Pedro Giffuni S," at Oct 1, 97 09:12:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > And Noorda didn't leave Novell in a good position either...they seem to > be getting better without him. > BTW, it seems like the Groupwise client is a Java application :-) Noorda was forced out by Mar Burnside and the other members of "The Office Of The President", a triumvarite of which Burnside was the strongest member. Burnside was a bean-counter (accountant) who decided that the best way to optimize short term profit was to milk the existing product line to death without investment in new technology. That strategy has a 5 year cap. Novell is doing better because of the retirement of the HP vice president, Frankenburg, who never got over the V.P. "Yes man" stage and thus let people like Mike DeFazio ride roughshod over him. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.