From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 00:10:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69FE106566B for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A5D8FC16 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2835E509D7 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:10:04 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XDGecetEzgV6 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:10:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E3532509D3; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090118001001.E3532509D3@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-12-28 - 2009-01-17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:10:05 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 00:11:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329401065672 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EB68FC13 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 20894 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2009 23:43:54 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Jan 2009 23:43:54 -0000 Message-ID: <49726B6A.2060606@telenix.org> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:36:10 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How NOT to use multibytes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:11:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This might seem an odd problem ... I spend my computertime developing, and don't really have much care for my own personal use of multibyte character sets, at least when I playing with the shell or in an editor. I just finished fixing a problem in a host I was logging into, where it was giving me strange characters in a simple make listing. It turned out to be that LANG and LC_ALL were set so that things like quotes (which I would really rather have be the same ' which I'm used to), was the "lsquo" and rsquo" multibyte character sequences. I suppressed the settings of LANG and LC_ALL, and then the problem evaporated. My problem here is that (1) this seemed like it was probably the wrong way to fix the problem, but (2) all the documentation seems to be telling me how to add this sort of thing, not to suppress it. I like it when the correct characters show up in my browser and mail, but not in the shell or editor sessions. What's the right way to get to where I want to be, it's not really to unset those variables, is it? BTW, things are just ducky with the browser and mail already, it's only the shell things which I need to set right. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklya2oACgkQz62J6PPcoOnyIgCgkCeLhCI1t0CAVLnPwdHDDmZI 6h8AoJOCGLSI4b0Oz81OMhiVboB2S9aq =4Lkz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 00:57:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B1A1065679 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4938FC22 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4ePX1b0050QkzPwA7oxH3E; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:57:17 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4oxG1b0010Yq9Sc8NoxGLV; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:57:17 +0000 Message-ID: <49727E6A.8030109@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:57:14 -0500 From: Allen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49725DE9.809@comcast.net> <20090118004112.B21458@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20090118004112.B21458@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Window Maker directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:57:17 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> directories are. I mean the ones that store themes and backgrounds and >> so on. On Linux I'd generally use /usr/share/WindowMaker/* >> >> But my FreeBSD 7.1 system doesn't seem to have that one, and in the 12 > > packages are in /usr/local, so maybe /usr/local/share/WindowMaker/* Thanks. I used find and locate and neither seemed to bring that up, though I had just run the updatedb > > use pkg_info to find exact package name and pkg_info -L packagename to > see a file list > >> or so FreeBSD books I have, it doesn't really mention it. > > windowmaker is not part of FreeBSD, why do you expect any FreeBSD book > to explain windowmaker? FreeBSD Unleashed has almost an entire chapter dedicated to it. It was the first thing I checked. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEUEARECAAYFAklyfmoACgkQrIzdsjqXtJm0ZwCYuiSMNgqDp3jX2THn+FkA4ew3 FACgsCZl9d12+QaV1XL9uFdq0laFDXg= =KxGH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 01:29:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE441065673 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184C88FC08 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:29:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1LOMU1-0002Yv-Vy>; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:29:50 +0100 Received: from e178021247.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.21.247] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1LOMU1-0007rR-T9>; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:29:49 +0100 Message-ID: <49728622.4080903@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:30:10 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.21.247 Subject: X11/Xorg: does VESA driver support ATi Radeon HD4830? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:29:51 -0000 I got a MSI R4830T2D512 ATI Radeon HD compatible graphics accelerator card I would like to use on my FreeBSD 8.0-CUR box running the most recent Xorg out from the ports-collection. As I found out, 'radeonhd' driver needs Xorg server 1.5.0 or higher when running in 64Bit and FreeBSD's ports are behind with 1.4.X. Therefore I tried VESA driver, but neither radeon, radeonhd nor vesa driver do recognize the board. I sthere any chance of getting Xorg-server 1.5 soon or is there another way making VESA driver recognizing the HD4830? Thnaks in advance, O. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 03:37:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DED1065670 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5718FC17 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (ool-457f63f5.dyn.optonline.net [69.127.99.245]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KDN00DI6CNTBHI0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:07:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:07:06 -0500 From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <49729CDA.6060309@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) Subject: Lost users on buildword X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:37:08 -0000 I just upgraded freebsd to 7.1 release and I think I messed up using mergemaster because I lost my users, I backed up /etc before I buildworld. Is there a way to recover this now? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 07:05:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB431065674 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E108FC1B for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so331781nfh.33 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:05:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PlFjRzOOJ5XOJ4VmLwjkpsOsacNDapGU09IEdQ7dLYI=; b=VHqVKWE/MvBwJw6SaqykONGrIJ2wNKQOZbcViyKK3KWx0sA7S1zSRyHx6V+nhvvHGP I6vTPj0sf0YeNqDDgpq/JnHr9fB2/bWJ9naREtaCp+i6VxY3FRmun8z/dSLZiKxhign1 VSoGAc8tYdhiMWYMCbCCjPktPNWg1A/+vcdt0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KLGNQ/Yf1owMHDNk4Tqy1YTr/JQBk/7wLxVfYhThxkz/0axC1hM/s20oSh4CJnZSPL +zxcZOcJWejyoMi6Awenh4KRjA38iWXMGJBmc20x8EDaFSdbldVFiAkN74W5OIpi9XKH zVpI3SMGYMt0dLKdHB1Scs0dwVg40meV/kTlM= Received: by 10.210.89.4 with SMTP id m4mr5560727ebb.12.1232262303790; Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:05:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4447372.home.otenet.gr [79.129.204.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm5807350eyf.57.2009.01.17.23.05.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:05:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4972D49D.5040703@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:05:01 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "E. J. Cerejo" References: <49729CDA.6060309@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <49729CDA.6060309@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost users on buildword X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:05:05 -0000 E. J. Cerejo wrote: > I just upgraded freebsd to 7.1 release and I think I messed up using > mergemaster because I lost my users, I backed up /etc before I > buildworld. Is there a way to recover this now? Sure. Compare your current /etc/master.passwd and /etc/passwd to your backups. Merge any new changes to your backups, restore them to /etc and run pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 07:53:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955A8106566B for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0708FC08 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.173.17.101] (helo=moosi) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LOSTX-000AfY-Ay; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:53:43 +0300 To: Rem P Roberti References: <497268ED.4080304@comcast.net> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:52:55 +0300 In-Reply-To: <497268ED.4080304@comcast.net> (Rem P. Roberti's message of "Sat\, 17 Jan 2009 15\:25\:33 -0800") Message-ID: <13735368@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Skype permissions (linux_kdump output) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:53:45 -0000 Rem P Roberti writes: > Here is the output of linux_kdump: > > http://home.comcast.net/~remegius/skypeuser.txt > > This was from a ktrace as user. When I did that ktrace it > it gave me the usual "Permission denied" message. Are you sure that the ktrace command was "ktrace -i skype"? WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 08:54:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EED5106564A for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scotia@thismonkey.com) Received: from mail-01.thismonkey.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:5c0:1100:8612::a01:20a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C558FC14 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scotia@thismonkey.com) Received: from server-01.thismonkey.com (server-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2001:5c0:1100:8611::a01:10b]) by mail-01.thismonkey.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0I8rdmg040236 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:53:40 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from scotia@server-01.thismonkey.com) Received: from server-01.thismonkey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server-01.thismonkey.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0I8rd4r079536 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:53:39 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from scotia@server-01.thismonkey.com) Received: (from scotia@localhost) by server-01.thismonkey.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0I8rdFb079535 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:53:39 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from scotia) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:53:39 +1100 From: Scott Aitken To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090118085337.GA77758@server-01.thismonkey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail-01.thismonkey.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8874/Sun Jan 18 16:02:00 2009 on mail-01.thismonkey.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (mail-01.thismonkey.com [IPv6:2001:5c0:1100:8612::a01:20a]); Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:53:46 +1100 (EST) Subject: disabling queuewarn DSN when mailhub delivers to specific host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:54:14 -0000 Hi all, I have a mailhub (freebsd/sendmail) which accepts mail from the Internet, then delivers to an exchange server, as well as keeping a local copy (using procmail). If my exchange server is down for whatever reason, after confTO_QUEUEWARN expires my mailhub sends the sender a delay DSN. Because I consider this mail to have already been accepted into my network, and has been delivered locally at least, can I configure sendmail to NOT send the DSN? Specifically I would like to do this on a per-host basis (ie, turn it off when delays to the exchange server occur, but not for other (future) servers). I would still like delay DSNs sent from other mail Internet servers to get though to my local users too. Many thanks, Scott ps if you cc any responses to freebsd-lists-3@thismonkey.com that would be great. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 16:11:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5771065670 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net) Received: from mx1.ukgrid.net (mx1.ukgrid.net [89.107.16.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B1A8FC0A for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net) Received: from www by mx1.ukgrid.net with local (Exim 4.69; FreeBSD) auth-from www envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net envelope-to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id 1LOZrw-000NLH-7u; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:47:24 +0000 Received: from 92-238-156-23.cable.ubr23.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk (92-238-156-23.cable.ubr23.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.238.156.23]) by horde.ukgrid.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:47:24 +0000 Message-ID: <20090118154724.780736hzlg7x77k0@horde.ukgrid.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:47:24 +0000 From: Andy Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 Sender: World Wide Web Owner Subject: PATH used by www user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:11:07 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to work out why the PATH is different for the www user on two different FreeBSD servers. The problem being that on one it cant find the traceroute binary (via a perl script hosted on apache 2.2). The www user on both is the FreeBSD default, so has no home directory on either. The /etc/profile is the same on both servers, also the login.conf have the same path value set and there are no /etc/bash files. But still on one server the path is /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin and on the other only /bin:/usr/bin. Can someone tell me where the path may be being set that I havent looked? thanks, Andy. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 16:21:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7211065670 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474F28FC1C for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 53dR1b00F0x6nqcA74MqXU; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:21:50 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([76.102.24.75]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 54Me1b00E1dCpWs8Y4Mp87; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:21:49 +0000 Message-ID: <49735711.5060201@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:21:37 -0800 From: Rem Roberti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <497268ED.4080304@comcast.net> <13735368@ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <13735368@ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Skype permissions (linux_kdump output) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:21:49 -0000 > Rem P Roberti writes: > > >> Here is the output of linux_kdump: >> >> http://home.comcast.net/~remegius/skypeuser.txt >> >> This was from a ktrace as user. When I did that ktrace it >> it gave me the usual "Permission denied" message. >> > > Are you sure that the ktrace command was "ktrace -i skype"? > > > WBR > That was definitely the command. Unfortunately, I don't have access to that machine now, so I can't provide further input. When I'm able to get back there I'll let you know. Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 17:04:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72BA106568C for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from dhcp-172-28-76-187.eur.corp.google.com (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400C28FC1B; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:04:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <49736117.7020700@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:04:23 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt donovan References: <28283d910901131456k1a94b322td46cea93406c6df@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28283d910901131456k1a94b322td46cea93406c6df@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: brad davison , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updated to 7.1 via cvs source, PAE kernel. server unstable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:04:27 -0000 matt donovan wrote: > could be due to PAE. since PAE is known not to be very stable. Not true at all unless you know something I don't. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 18:25:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96BD106564A for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hannes.flocke@gmx.li) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C56C8FC1A for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hannes.flocke@gmx.li) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Jan 2009 17:59:05 -0000 Received: from e177119212.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [192.168.1.36]) [85.177.119.212] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 18 Jan 2009 18:59:05 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3420007 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18cEY9NnPkchZFdy1ESIR71F2NglgzA2/owLbGTyx ALYJEmSGLW0Lmf Message-ID: <49736DE6.40601@gmx.li> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:59:02 +0100 From: Tobias Daub User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.66 Subject: Experience with DELL PowerEdge 2900 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:25:50 -0000 Hi There, I'm pretty new to UNIX/FreeBSD and I'm going to install and administrate FreeBSD on a DELL PowerEdge 2900. Does anybody have experience with that machine, or are there any known problems, for example: - Perc RAID Controller - attaching an APC to the machine and configuring the corresponding software - ACPI Thanks alot! Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 18:26:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B3210656C3 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from mail.vex.net (smaug.vex.net [208.76.104.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58758FC21 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from [192.168.110.8] (unknown [207.35.13.152]) by mail.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B00A217094; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:26:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4973745C.3000002@utoronto.ca> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:26:36 -0500 From: William Gordon Rutherdale User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> <3a142e750901101153x66d0099dxa871dce07df32175@mail.gmail.com> <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> <20090111165235.GA62524@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <496A7E0F.4060301@utoronto.ca> <20090111234532.GA86733@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <496A9800.40205@utoronto.ca> <20090112170739.GA14646@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090112170739.GA14646@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:26:39 -0000 Okay, I had a busy week but finally got back to this machine and made a fresh attempt at installing FreeBSD on it. I followed your advice and made the whole hard drive into a gigantic partition mounted on /, except that I also created a 20GB swap partition. Everything installed fine, including configuration of the ethernet adapter. So now I'm in on the FreeBSD world. Thanks for the help. -Will Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 08:08:16PM -0500, William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > >> I'm afraid it's gone from bad to worse. >> >> The 7.1 system may have recognised the ethernet adapter, but it seemed >> to fail writing to the hard drive. >> >> I got this during installation: >> >> Progress >> Extracting GENERIC into /boot directory... >> >> Message >> Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 1425408 bytes) >> >> /mtrt: write failed, filesystem is full. >> >> ------------- >> >> I think I allocated decent size partitions for /, /var, swap, /tmp, >> /usr. I made multiple attempts. Kept getting errors. >> > > The 'filesystem is full' message might imply that the partition for root > is too small. What were the filesystem sizes you chose? There should be > an item in the main install menu to start a shell. If you take that > option and use the 'df -h' command, you should see the sizes of the > mounted partitions. > > What happens if you just make one giant partition? > > Roland > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 20:11:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8D7106564A for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:11:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F336D8FC14 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 81AC0471824 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:11:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6DB38695C for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:11:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from TX2.Go2France.com [66.90.247.9] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A9EC5C7200CA; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:58:36 +0100 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:10:25 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <200901182058531.SM07868@TX2.Go2France.com> Subject: How's it going with 7.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:11:20 -0000 Any feedback? Can't find much in fbsd-questions. I have partner who said 7.0 tcp/ip was much slower for his VPN nets than 6.4. Is that fixed in 7.1. thanks, Len ______________________________________________ IMGate OpenSource Mail Firewall www.IMGate.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 20:45:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23D1106564A for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f14.google.com (mail-bw0-f14.google.com [209.85.218.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1A98FC08 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com) Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so128701bwz.16 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:45:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=eTNoDCCuZYxmm7FxtlwrFgsaRKGAFYjQHbBob5vvz4Q=; b=aKldhlbg4YT61v7F3g1bCJM61E68VNYKuZc1A2SzCXZfCDJCDRHt1Vs9WfeyBocDJ0 SfQj+iZGw1orUyBS3VjxKiUJEetZx9tzF+0h4ocR+ifn3o72cuI9hKa9m/ej5iFQ9x2k P02EaT0ZxhBYohmA7IIcp1n5cbD+D1KmhYUuk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=x2JJoNci1YUSmi3iv4visFeSajiFJZNonw2JMclwqpjsXJY9g/udOMGtzIcZgznqag rh65SZ6d5CgYXSa8890CGtsmeEimopMq78jBvn7wi4PJXG4ywOMs3RUoBQJed3oi+m6D yFK0M4JbyaZsJrN3409py5z61MEljC9xbmmEo= Received: by 10.181.221.7 with SMTP id y7mr1777940bkq.195.1232309859091; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.204.1 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:17:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <179b97fb0901181217v475a4a6aw127634c4c472266@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:17:39 -0600 From: "Brandon Gooch" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: iwn driver on 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:45:17 -0000 I have a working driver for the Intel 4965, aka iwn(4), loaded on my Lenovo X300 running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE (amd64). This driver is a slightly-modified version of the iwn(4) driver backported from 8.0-CURRENT by Gavin Atkinson: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=221758+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/freebsd-stable/20080928.freebsd-stable I was seeing the same symptoms described in these threads (among others): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-September/045264.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1334322+1338147+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20090118.freebsd-questions http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1418632+1421765+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20090118.freebsd-questions ...so I debugged and modified Gavin's driver for my system. The driver and the source tree diff can be downloaded here for any brave souls wanting to test it out: http://sites.google.com/site/bsdgooch/files I'm using the driver now to send this e-mail over a link to my TP-LINK TL-WR941ND access point (with WPA2). Feedback and bug reports would be useful. -brandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 21:06:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0B31065670 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from ariqua.hostforweb.net (ariqua.hostforweb.net [64.202.123.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181108FC16 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [78.90.167.18] (port=53544 helo=[10.30.4.100]) by ariqua.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LOe0h-0002B1-Lq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:12:43 -0600 Message-ID: <49738D65.9020405@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:13:25 +0200 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8a2c6ba675187902998462a317f9c69a@conservationnw.org> In-Reply-To: <8a2c6ba675187902998462a317f9c69a@conservationnw.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ariqua.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - aboutsupport.com Subject: Re: fopen(/conf/config.xml): failed to open stream: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:06:22 -0000 Hi, Better ask these in pfsense forums. But PfSense do provide comfortable web interface. Try using it. Peter bchristensen@conservationnw.org wrote: > > Hello, I am not a regular user or networking expert; I work for a small > non-profit that had a pfSense/FreeBSD firewall set up on a Soekris net4801. > The person who set it up has disappeared. When moving our office today, I > attempted to log on via a console cable to change the IP addresses, which I > sort of know how to do, but it froze up and had to be hard-rebooted. Now, > while it manages to boot all the way to the console setup menu, I receive > the error: > > Warning: fopen(/conf/config.xml): failed to open stream: No such file or > directory in /etc/inc/xmlparse.inc on line 149. Error: could not open xml > input > > Only the shell (#8), PfTop (9), and traffic logs (10) from the menu work; > the rest return same error > > The only thing I can see in the bootup that might be an issue is a line > reading: pci0 > at device 18.1 (no driver attached) > and then later the same error for device 18.5, but I don't know if that > was all there before the disaster > > I looked in the files named, but only know > enough to follow the script > for so long. I found some posts online about fstab and something not > mounting, and had a look at that file. The only line in /etc/fstab is > /dev/ufs/pfSense /ufs ro 1 1 > > That probably doesn't help, but... > > If you have any ideas, please let me know. RIght now I am sleeping on the > new office floor (don't live here) until it's fixed :) > > THANK YOU!!! > > -- > BRC > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 21:38:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2049106566B for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2C08FC0C for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CBC5C2F911 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:39:47 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <179b97fb0901181217v475a4a6aw127634c4c472266@mail.gmail.com> References: <179b97fb0901181217v475a4a6aw127634c4c472266@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:38:10 +1000 Message-Id: <1232314690.1190.46.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: iwn driver on 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:38:28 -0000 On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 14:17 -0600, Brandon Gooch wrote: > I have a working driver for the Intel 4965, aka iwn(4), loaded on my > Lenovo X300 running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE (amd64). > > This driver is a slightly-modified version of the iwn(4) driver > backported from 8.0-CURRENT by Gavin Atkinson: > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=221758+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/freebsd-stable/20080928.freebsd-stable > > I was seeing the same symptoms described in these threads (among others): > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-September/045264.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1334322+1338147+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20090118.freebsd-questions > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1418632+1421765+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20090118.freebsd-questions > > ...so I debugged and modified Gavin's driver for my system. > > The driver and the source tree diff can be downloaded here for any > brave souls wanting to test it out: > > http://sites.google.com/site/bsdgooch/files > > I'm using the driver now to send this e-mail over a link to my TP-LINK > TL-WR941ND access point (with WPA2). Feedback and bug reports would be > useful. > > -brandon Sounds like you got to it before I did- thank god! :) Question though: have you got it figured for a channels yet? I'll test it for you and keep you updated with my results. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 21:57:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A288106564A for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43238FC23 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DA9F90F47E; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:57:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from [78.52.48.166] (helo=[192.168.1.118]) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1LOfeG-0007NU-00; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:57:40 +0100 Message-ID: <4973A5D2.6000108@web.de> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:57:38 +0100 From: Marco User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <497092C6.7030905@web.de> <20090116175318.GA73625@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090116175318.GA73625@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19JTwi+3ri1L7dZzharGCnLU6gh+S1tE3HY9YGr qPxxUHAU3MmT3bBv7cUbDZ21ilEiW6anXRFhMiA5iYOd9Ai1gH StxCKlOJI= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Runtime de/encryption X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:57:42 -0000 First, thanks Roland. >On-disk encryption is not meant to secure access on a running machine. This is very true. And the reason for my thoughts on that topic. > I don't think there is something like that can be easily done. You'd > have to alter the semantics of systems calls like open(2) and read(2) to use > passwords. Changing the syscall's is also an interesting idea. That however would basicly change the host system in it's inner workings. Now, it would imply some changing of kernel related code base, with decision/distinguish on type of files. And in a case of encrypted file to use the beforehand added open_enc()/close_enc() ... syscall(s). Still this would make it possible to work with normal files, but also apply the functionality of runtime encryption. In difference to an extra layer of fs this possibly would be very unportable on the first thought.Nevertheless, i like the idea. Best regards, Marco Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:59:34PM +0100, Marco wrote: > >> Hello List, >> >> i'am using the geom framework for quite a time. I'am happy about >> gbde/geli implementations(beside the race condition in geli) however, i >> wonder since some time, as the data may get >> exposed on a running server(as the partitions decrypted) >> > > On-disk encryption is not meant to secure access on a running machine. > > File and directory contents are only decrypted in memory, not on disk > when you read them. You should use normal file permissions and possibly > ACL's to restrict access to mounted filesystems. > > There are of course data structures in the kernel that contain decrypted > information about the volume. But if an attacker can grab that info from > a running kernel you've got bigger problems... > > >> is there a way >> to do some kind of runtime de/encyrption, with keys? so that only >> special users with the right handle can encrypt or decrypt data? so >> talking about another filesystem layer... >> > > I don't think there is something like that can be easily done. You'd > have to alter the semantics of systems calls like open(2) and read(2) to use > passwords. > > Roland > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 22:09:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F821065678 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from dhcp-172-28-76-187.eur.corp.google.com (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E0D8FC41; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4973A899.3070002@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:09:29 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Len Conrad References: <200901182058531.SM07868@TX2.Go2France.com> In-Reply-To: <200901182058531.SM07868@TX2.Go2France.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How's it going with 7.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:09:37 -0000 Len Conrad wrote: > Any feedback? Can't find much in fbsd-questions. > > I have partner who said 7.0 tcp/ip was much slower for his VPN nets than 6.4. Is that fixed in 7.1. I've not heard that reported so it's hard to answer the question. Try it and see, or if your partner reported the problem then please provide a reference to their problem report. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 22:10:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C3110656FE; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C29C8FC32; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from janh.freebsd (e177246053.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.177.246.53]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML2xA-1LOfqc0Jbi-0005aY; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:10:28 +0100 Message-ID: <4973A8CE.9060909@janh.de> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:10:22 +0100 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable-list freebsd References: 179b97fb0901181217v475a4a6aw127634c4c472266@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18CKTZojz4YIXT6O9czel6CXZbts86zweYZ7tW NkWkwMffKIUTOZLhhc2UujwnVWFOAXJHJDB7xcvxnknDUK/RXA fAc5fJ0rltEBV6DO8AZcQ== Cc: Brandon Gooch , Da Rock , questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: iwn driver on 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:10:32 -0000 Da Rock wrote: > On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 14:17 -0600, Brandon Gooch wrote: >> I have a working driver for the Intel 4965, aka iwn(4), loaded on my >> Lenovo X300 running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE (amd64). >> >> This driver is a slightly-modified version of the iwn(4) driver >> backported from 8.0-CURRENT by Gavin Atkinson: >> >> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=221758+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/freebsd-stable/20080928.freebsd-stable >> >> I was seeing the same symptoms described in these threads (among others): >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-September/045264.html >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1334322+1338147+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20090118.freebsd-questions >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1418632+1421765+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20090118.freebsd-questions >> >> ...so I debugged and modified Gavin's driver for my system. >> >> The driver and the source tree diff can be downloaded here for any >> brave souls wanting to test it out: >> >> http://sites.google.com/site/bsdgooch/files >> >> I'm using the driver now to send this e-mail over a link to my TP-LINK >> TL-WR941ND access point (with WPA2). Feedback and bug reports would be >> useful. >> >> -brandon > > Sounds like you got to it before I did- thank god! :) > > Question though: have you got it figured for a channels yet? > > I'll test it for you and keep you updated with my results. Thanks for working on the driver! The only difference to the version of gavin that I could see is that the bands in iwn_bands that got commented out were brought back. Or did I miss something? Do you know why they were commented out and it was unnecessary? Or was it just to fix the crash? I did a few test runs: It does not crash immediately as the version from gavin, but the error I had with the perforce version iwn0: error, INTR=82000000 STATUS=0x10000 iwn0: iwn_config: could not set power mode, error 35 is there -- in 3 out of 3 tries. So nothing improved there. (I hit that error on first use in about 50% of the cases before.) Moreover, at 3 out of 4 tries to 'kldunload if_iwn' after hitting the error (after '/etc/rc.d/netif stop iwn0' and 'ifconfig iwn0 down'), there was a crash: 2 page faults and 1 freeze. I have not had that with the perforce version. (Maybe once long ago, but I think I forgot to stop iwn0 at that time.) The one time I actually got the (WPA2) connection up, I was able to transfer with a similar speed as with the perforce version. Thus, for me, there are no improvement over the (old) perforce version. Probably by chance, but I had more crashes. I think the thread on stable@ should rather be continued than the one on questions@, but since Da Rock answered on questions@, I reinclude both. Cheers, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 22:36:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91181065670 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912368FC0C for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1008732yxb.13 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:36:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; bh=rYO369d5UKOnTyKwlzl9gSNso86x6b2ReQ12MgoPz3w=; b=vK5IqDil5e+AWjAqKfVEx2Dxosijb3hRLy9PTiCYPczKGT5RfqPyFiENbpbUdR+B5z 3R3TOtdGtdbWlWOlXMNzEWOLKbIKUbAW8vFVyYE2knZmUpPlPg9+799AQclfARDaObsA ZrV0Lfdt87jzaRzrqUreEsSiMvde1WpBkXtRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=PJ0etGoN9oomzYLr3yLyVQRrhT7nrKbgXA/MQAPUa121gruGOBwWD82pqNJNK3WkxT SOQQL38iWvqpD8RNNxh6FPAzcU52jXuYtCFzJZTdd0syJ5YeQdgk8qCyMKVo9eXinkDD Pr77UHYYbUhg75s77UXtljtLYQHrDey7q9nVc= Received: by 10.100.128.2 with SMTP id a2mr1718364and.93.1232317671460; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? (CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c23sm1857960ana.52.2009.01.18.14.27.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:27:50 -0800 (PST) From: Mitja To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:27:32 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901181627.32860.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: gnome-keyring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:36:08 -0000 Update of gnome-keyring: checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from "http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh", which will diagnose the problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer cannot solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at gnome@FreeBSD.org, and attach (a) "/usr/ports/security/gnome-keyring/work/gnome-keyring-2.24.1/config.log", (b) the output of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any website, copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1) with the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list (gnome@FreeBSD.org), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists are usually discarded by the mailing list software. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnome-keyring. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnome-keyring. Thanks. -- Mitja __________________ They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear satanic messages...but that's nothing, if you play it forward it will install Windows! ********************************** http://www.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 22:54:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E8D106566B for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F3E8FC0C for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 50Sb1b00917dt5G51AgSNP; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:40:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5Agl1b00C0Yq9Sc3ZAgly2; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:40:46 +0000 Message-ID: <4973AFEC.9090408@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:40:44 -0500 From: Allen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200901182058531.SM07868@TX2.Go2France.com> <4973A899.3070002@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4973A899.3070002@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How's it going with 7.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:54:04 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kris Kennaway wrote: > Len Conrad wrote: >> Any feedback? Can't find much in fbsd-questions. >> >> I have partner who said 7.0 tcp/ip was much slower for his VPN nets >> than 6.4. Is that fixed in 7.1. I just installed FreeBSD7.1-RELEASE a few days ago, and I've been pretty impressed so far. I've been using FreeBSD on and off since 4.0 so I think I can say this: It's not slow at all. It's actually pretty snappy I'd say. I wouldn't listen to someone who's saying it's slow or something. You never know when a user screws with something MAKING it slow to begin with and then complains about it. Happens all the time to tech support people. A user will mess with an option, screw it up, and then complain like it's their fault at the company who makes it. Personally, my advice would be that if you had a machine you aren't using for anything really, or if you have a testing machine already, to install it and make your own conclusion. I personally have loved it. - -Allen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklzr+wACgkQrIzdsjqXtJnbZACgrh02Mn1tcbB4Y9YQ8oPqwaWo xeYAoLhgbN0p012pwExLzoMAEAYIsl48 =+Kav -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 23:06:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77AD1065676 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EEA8FC25 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4725C2FB35 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:07:50 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <179b97fb0901181217v475a4a6aw127634c4c472266@mail.gmail.com> References: <179b97fb0901181217v475a4a6aw127634c4c472266@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:06:10 +1000 Message-Id: <1232319970.1190.69.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: iwn driver on 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:06:42 -0000 On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 14:17 -0600, Brandon Gooch wrote: > I have a working driver for the Intel 4965, aka iwn(4), loaded on my > Lenovo X300 running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE (amd64). > > This driver is a slightly-modified version of the iwn(4) driver > backported from 8.0-CURRENT by Gavin Atkinson: > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=221758+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/freebsd-stable/20080928.freebsd-stable > > I was seeing the same symptoms described in these threads (among others): > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-September/045264.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1334322+1338147+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20090118.freebsd-questions > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1418632+1421765+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20090118.freebsd-questions > > ...so I debugged and modified Gavin's driver for my system. > > The driver and the source tree diff can be downloaded here for any > brave souls wanting to test it out: > > http://sites.google.com/site/bsdgooch/files > > I'm using the driver now to send this e-mail over a link to my TP-LINK > TL-WR941ND access point (with WPA2). Feedback and bug reports would be > useful. > > -brandon I get messages saying it can't read the eeprom- is this right? Other than that it seems good. Incidentally, I answered here because thats where the message was originally posted- should I move this discussion to stable? I'm subscribed there too I believe, so its no problem if its a matter of policy. #kldload if_iwn iwn0: mem 0xfe5fe000-0xfe5fffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci7 iwn0: could not read EEPROM iwn0: Reg Domain: iwn0:could not read EEPROM, address 00:00:00:00:00:00 iwn0: could not read EEPROM iwn0: could not read EEPROM iwn0: could not read EEPROM iwn0: could not read EEPROM iwn0: could not read EEPROM iwn0: could not read EEPROM iwn0: could not read EEPROM iwn0: could not read EEPROM iwn0: could not read EEPROM iwn0: could not read EEPROM iwn0: [ITHREAD] iwn0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps iwn0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps iwn0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps iwn0: 11na MCS: 6.5Mbps 13Mbps 19.5Mbps 26Mbps 39Mbps 52Mbps 58.5Mbps 65Mbps 13Mbps 26Mbps 39Mbps 52Mbps 78Mbps 104Mbps 117Mbps 130Mbps iwn0: 11ng MCS: 6.5Mbps 13Mbps 19.5Mbps 26Mbps 39Mbps 52Mbps 58.5Mbps 65Mbps 13Mbps 26Mbps 39Mbps 52Mbps 78Mbps 104Mbps 117Mbps 130Mbps #wpa_supplicant -i iwn0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf iwn0: error, INTR=2000000 STATUS=0x0 #wpa_supplicant -i iwn0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf Trying to associate with (SSID='' freq=2442 MHz) Authentication with timed out. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 23:30:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E241065670 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77358FC1A for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0INUHdm065837; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:30:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BEE10BA98; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:30:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:30:17 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Marco Message-ID: <20090118233017.GA14487@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <497092C6.7030905@web.de> <20090116175318.GA73625@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4973A5D2.6000108@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4973A5D2.6000108@web.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Runtime de/encryption X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:30:20 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 10:57:38PM +0100, Marco wrote: > First, thanks Roland. >=20 > >On-disk encryption is not meant to secure access on a running machine. > This is very true. And the reason for my thoughts on that topic. >=20 > > I don't think there is something like that can be easily done. You'd > > have to alter the semantics of systems calls like open(2) and read(2) t= o use > > passwords. >=20 > Changing the syscall's is also an interesting idea.=20 The point is was trying to make is that it is a _stupid_ idea. One of the strengths of UNIX is that you can use read() on every file, whether it is a regular file, a device or a pipe or a socket. Imagine that you'd have to call different read functions depending on if you're reading a regular file, or a device descriptor etc. That would suck big time. Using separate calls to read from encrypted files would cause just that. > That however would basicly change the host system in it's inner > workings. Now, it would imply some changing of kernel related code > base, with decision/distinguish on type of files. And in a case of > encrypted file to use the beforehand added open_enc()/close_enc() > ... syscall(s). The _big_ problem is that every application would have to learn to do that is you want them to be able to read these files. It poses the same problem as encrypting individual files with e.g. gnupg or ccrypt. You have to decrypt them before apps can use the data, because most apps don't know how to handle encrypted files.=20 Whatever security you're trying to achieve, I think this is not the way to go about it. There are several other mechanisms in place that are better suited for applying access restrictions to files; permissions, groups, ACLs, MAC. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklzu4kACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXjZgCgptOUUElP2FjRiIxyZHAPZyu9 YsYAn14D6VpASaWAeqwuQpdjTyb3uxfR =JZJq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 00:05:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443221065672; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f10.google.com (mail-bw0-f10.google.com [209.85.218.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020A38FC18; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so435992bwz.19 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:05:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hh8lNfpkt7q9yyO2C6ts5A/hV6sOPYNW0PuI18HFYTU=; b=YW56dlG+QK+zbZjk/REz52RaGvWjSYrVx1FVm2wGFg+fBiIe9bIFbnsOIPVsWujBrE DNuh4UKcchZ4j6YmMgNaGSBTpmaEF9jguRo0iwTzOKUfzE7dK6RmDi1q/h1oGf/+2Eir n5ll7z0yG0RiSdufAWVlmLmrUnBQoVaTO1OWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=aEbj2nl4O8U438LSGAFqDv1fEMVUi1JoaBVtmgyCTxyYLcOgxJoYuASNxPFvsFaOPU Z0wq2ihJL2GUuGOKocMvwN2IqweXG8IG8rAgVu/BLKac5IbR2d4h9WnasPhxKyczwLNp KIuln7+YXhr8sL4kYd+gPSaE/5GVYLi8lwGZw= Received: by 10.181.239.8 with SMTP id q8mr473349bkr.109.1232323540922; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:05:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.204.1 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:05:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <179b97fb0901181605r56ec98f8g7aa31fa4a6e51e99@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:05:40 -0600 From: "Brandon Gooch" To: "Jan Henrik Sylvester" In-Reply-To: <4973A8CE.9060909@janh.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4973A8CE.9060909@janh.de> Cc: stable-list freebsd , Da Rock , questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: iwn driver on 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:05:45 -0000 The kernel panic was due to a NULL pointer dereference in the module. The code that was commented out created a situation in which the array of structs (line 2412): static const struct iwn_chan_band iwn_bands[] contained only 2 items. The code following the struct array that obtained the list of authorized channels: /* read the list of authorized channels */ for (i = 0; i < N(iwn_bands)-2; i++) iwn_read_eeprom_band(sc, &iwn_bands[i]); didn't actually get a list of anything, since N(iwn_bands)-2 evaluates to zero in this case. The NULL pointer part comes in when the call to ieee80211_sort_channels() on line 2436 sends a list of no items with a value of 0 for ic->ic_nchans. The backported insertion sort code from 8.0-CURRENT's 802.11 stack fails somewhere because of this value, due to access of some memory address in the chancompar() or swap(?) -- I didn't really dig that far into it. I guess the purpose of commenting out the A channels in the iwn_bands[] was to keep the driver from potentially using them, but honestly, I'm not sure if that's the appropriate way to do that (I'm just getting into this stuff). I'm sure the MFC'd VAP stuff that Sam Leffler is working on will alleviate all of this, but I wanted a working iwn(4) for now ;) On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: > Da Rock wrote: >> >> On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 14:17 -0600, Brandon Gooch wrote: >>> >>> I have a working driver for the Intel 4965, aka iwn(4), loaded on my >>> Lenovo X300 running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE (amd64). >>> >>> This driver is a slightly-modified version of the iwn(4) driver >>> backported from 8.0-CURRENT by Gavin Atkinson: >>> >>> >>> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=221758+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/freebsd-stable/20080928.freebsd-stable >>> >>> I was seeing the same symptoms described in these threads (among others): >>> >>> >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-September/045264.html >>> >>> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1334322+1338147+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20090118.freebsd-questions >>> >>> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1418632+1421765+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20090118.freebsd-questions >>> >>> ...so I debugged and modified Gavin's driver for my system. >>> >>> The driver and the source tree diff can be downloaded here for any >>> brave souls wanting to test it out: >>> >>> http://sites.google.com/site/bsdgooch/files >>> >>> I'm using the driver now to send this e-mail over a link to my TP-LINK >>> TL-WR941ND access point (with WPA2). Feedback and bug reports would be >>> useful. >>> >>> -brandon >> >> Sounds like you got to it before I did- thank god! :) >> >> Question though: have you got it figured for a channels yet? >> >> I'll test it for you and keep you updated with my results. > > Thanks for working on the driver! > > The only difference to the version of gavin that I could see is that the > bands in iwn_bands that got commented out were brought back. Or did I miss > something? Do you know why they were commented out and it was unnecessary? > Or was it just to fix the crash? > > I did a few test runs: It does not crash immediately as the version from > gavin, but the error I had with the perforce version > iwn0: error, INTR=82000000 STATUS=0x10000 > iwn0: iwn_config: could not set power mode, error 35 > is there -- in 3 out of 3 tries. So nothing improved there. (I hit that > error on first use in about 50% of the cases before.) > > Moreover, at 3 out of 4 tries to 'kldunload if_iwn' after hitting the error > (after '/etc/rc.d/netif stop iwn0' and 'ifconfig iwn0 down'), there was a > crash: 2 page faults and 1 freeze. I have not had that with the perforce > version. (Maybe once long ago, but I think I forgot to stop iwn0 at that > time.) > > The one time I actually got the (WPA2) connection up, I was able to transfer > with a similar speed as with the perforce version. > > Thus, for me, there are no improvement over the (old) perforce version. > Probably by chance, but I had more crashes. > > I think the thread on stable@ should rather be continued than the one on > questions@, but since Da Rock answered on questions@, I reinclude both. > > Cheers, > Jan Henrik > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 00:11:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E593C106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:11:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linda.messerschmidt@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9688FC16 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:11:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linda.messerschmidt@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2501602rvf.43 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:11:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=jJ2PT5Idp6rAzYhzeYSTSpsEnf0Z4xjd3+U72IMlXns=; b=AnT8H1HcuDZU1SOVMzE+MA49guHc1SEIlS/ZlMoLGq8Rtrc1k2WuQ5EllwZsralDWb Wqqp+yfExDjMMaUVHYve+SlUqLyvRTIppwHydnkdwNmLOy+NHME4wWQklpjlUuXNweka NIQYzSnoOKN6v0zCGVJhhGCMmrqHU/i8/xjL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=uw7MtgfY08oLto87Gl/NTKLW8t8jCqVUDyZ81OA6QxGZaxKfW/xBI2PabgO4PBg8s6 x7hGwg2ipsK+67zLSUCDRWfZhWYkE8XaG4bxjG0kYhjp3Sbt6AP22uxhYHYB+0PxBPf1 aWwhDIgAEdsVE7MNo386ngpKtu14a5Ssd5UkQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.187.10 with SMTP id k10mr40726rvf.264.1232322119503; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:41:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:41:59 -0500 Message-ID: <237c27100901181541n412f66c3v24ebae43b9efc313@mail.gmail.com> From: Linda Messerschmidt To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Embedded scripting language advice sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:11:49 -0000 For a project I'm working on, I need to find an scripting language, and I have a long wishlist: - able to be "easily" embedded in a C++ application - "real" object-oriented with inheritance (preferably multiple inheritance) - able to implement object methods in C++ where needed - "sandbox" operation (e.g. ability to suppress any file I/O & system libraries, but keep math and string libraries) - thread-safe, or, at least able to have multiple coexisting execution contexts in one running process - relatively user-friendly syntax (i.e. (not (lisp (based)))) - has to build and embed on FreeBSD This is a mathematical model, and the goal is to write certain high-performance parts in C++, but to provide the user a command-line style interface where they can "explore" interactively, examine/tweak data values, etc, and then override certain behavior by subclassing from the C++ base classes using the scripting language to see how it affects the next model iteration. One thread is handling the model calculations, and one handles the user's exploration, with appropriate synchronization when changes are made. (We are doing this already, but since the code is C++, only the data can be edited while it's running and inspection is limited to our hacky pseudo-language.) The obvious choice for this was Lua; it hits a lot of the marks, but not all of them and not all well. I got as far as creating a Lua "object" in C++ that exposes some core functionality, which is great, but when it comes to inheritance, and especially multiple inheritance, Lua's object model wasn't thrilling me. Also, it uses setjmp for error handling, which I'm worried will mess around with C++ exceptions; they are already fragile enough in threaded applications. I do like Lua, but I'd really rather find an embedded scripting language designed from the start to support OO, if one exists. Are there other alternatives I should look at? Lua is to C as ______ is to C++? I tried to give Guile a look but a quick poll of the users vetoed the syntax. Lua is clearly ahead in the user-friendly department. I also wondered if Python would be a good choice, but I'm just not sure about how well it handles having new code generated more or less on the fly in the middle of a running application. I somewhat suspect that if it were done in Python, it would end up being a Python app with C++ add-ins, rather than a C++ app with an embedded scripting language. That isn't a deal-breaker, of course, as long as it works; results matter. That's not exactly "lightweight" though, and I'm not sure if (or how) Python sandboxes. One last "wouldn't it be nice" wish... If the user creates something they particularly like on the fly, compositing up an object a piece at a time on the command line, it would be just grand if the scripting language were able to reproduce a class definition for that arbitrary object that could be saved or tweaked for later reference and reuse. If not, we'll just have to abstract the editing process enough to keep one ourselves, which would probably be a bit user-unfriendly but hardly the end of the world. But with a wishlist this long and exotic, I'm afraid the question here is not whether something can do it all, but how disappointed I'm going to be. :-( I'm grateful for any language suggestions or feedback. Is Lua as close as we can get? Python? Other?! Thanks! -LM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 00:32:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7315106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from misha_78@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s36.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s36.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75D78FC17 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from misha_78@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY102-W17 ([64.4.61.117]) by bay0-omc1-s36.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:20:00 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [190.188.27.112] From: Ramiro Caso To: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:19:59 -0200 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2009 00:20:00.0184 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA744B80:01C979CB] Subject: Cannot perform user mounts after upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:32:01 -0000 I can't perform user mounts for my pendrive=2C and I used to be able to=2C = before making an upgrade. Moreover=2C user mounts for both /dev/cd0 and /dev/fd0 a= re still operational. Root mounts are possible=2C but it's doesn't strike me a= s good practice=2C and it is a little bit of an annoyance. I need help=2C at least= a hint in some direction or other=2C because at this point I'm clueless. I'm running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p2=2C GENERIC kernel=2C i386. I just did a = major ports updating=2C including perl-5.8.8 =3D=3D> perl-5.8.9. I ran the perl-after-upgrade script=2C and warned me about possible problems with /usr/local/sbin/snmpd and /usr/local/sbin/snmptrapd=2C but nothing else. I = also recently installed /usr/ports/misc/compat5x=2C among other ports. I have so= me security and related ports installed=2C but they never caused problems befo= re. The command I used is the expected one: % mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 ~/media/pendrive Now it gives the following (quite uninformative) error: mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: : Operation not permitted Strangely enough=2C a user mount with a read-only option works just fine: % mount -o ro -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 ~/media/pendrive The mount point still has the same ownership (me) and permissions (755) as before. Both /etc/devfs.rules=2C /etc/rc.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf have the relevant lines for allowing user mounts=2C namely: /etc/sysctl.conf =3D=3D> vfs.usermount=3D1 /etc/devfs.rules =3D=3D> [localrules=3D10] add path 'da*s*' mode 0660 group usb /etc/rc.conf =3D=3D> devfs_system_ruleset=3D"localrules" I don't recall this being necessary=2C but I also have devd enabled in rc.c= onf=2C although with no special rules for umass in devd.conf. Needless to say=2C I= belong to group usb. This configuration worked before just fine. Any ideas? _________________________________________________________________ Disfrut=E1 los mejores contenidos en MSN Video. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=3Des-xl= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 00:39:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7CD1065675 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from outgoing02.lava.net (pie.lava.net [IPv6:2001:1888:0:1:230:48ff:fe5b:3b8c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3441C8FC0C for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by outgoing02.lava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14FF170788; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:39:30 -1000 (HST) Received: by malasada.lava.net (Postfix, from userid 102) id 56D81153882; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:39:30 -1000 (HST) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:39:30 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: Linda Messerschmidt Message-ID: <20090119003929.GC26150@lava.net> Mail-Followup-To: Linda Messerschmidt , freebsd-questions References: <237c27100901181541n412f66c3v24ebae43b9efc313@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <237c27100901181541n412f66c3v24ebae43b9efc313@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Embedded scripting language advice sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:39:32 -0000 On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 06:41:59PM -0500, Linda Messerschmidt wrote: > For a project I'm working on, I need to find an scripting language, and I > have a long wishlist: > > - able to be "easily" embedded in a C++ application > > - "real" object-oriented with inheritance (preferably multiple inheritance) > > - able to implement object methods in C++ where needed > > - "sandbox" operation (e.g. ability to suppress any file I/O & system > libraries, but keep math and string libraries) > > - thread-safe, or, at least able to have multiple coexisting execution > contexts in one running process > > - relatively user-friendly syntax (i.e. (not (lisp (based)))) > > - has to build and embed on FreeBSD > > This is a mathematical model, and the goal is to write certain > high-performance parts in C++, but to provide the user a command-line style > interface where they can "explore" interactively, examine/tweak data values, > etc, and then override certain behavior by subclassing from the C++ base > classes using the scripting language to see how it affects the next model > iteration. One thread is handling the model calculations, and one handles > the user's exploration, with appropriate synchronization when changes are > made. (We are doing this already, but since the code is C++, only the data > can be edited while it's running and inspection is limited to our hacky > pseudo-language.) Some of these criteria seem to match TCL's design criteria (easy embeddability, relatively user friendly, able to implement methods in a compiled language) but core TCL falls down on the object-orientation side. However there is actually a choice of object models in TCL, with at least one of them [incr TCL] closely modeled on C++'s object model. You might find this worth looking into. I'm not a TCL maven, just worked with it a bit on a past employer's project where it was the primary scripting language for a large commercial hardware-test system. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- cliftonr@iandicomputing.com / cliftonr@lava.net President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 00:46:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0948106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from outgoing02.lava.net (pie.lava.net [IPv6:2001:1888:0:1:230:48ff:fe5b:3b8c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9D58FC14 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by outgoing02.lava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C737170783 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:46:22 -1000 (HST) Received: by malasada.lava.net (Postfix, from userid 102) id D9981153882; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:46:21 -1000 (HST) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:46:21 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: FreeBSD questions Message-ID: <20090119004620.GD26150@lava.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:46:23 -0000 My FreeBSD file server at home has been running for 5 or 6 years on a succession of generic PC "small form factor" boxes (a.k.a "shoebox cases".) I'm not very happy with this approach, because the hardware keeps dying every two years or so. The latest incarnation is getting flakier and flakier and it's time to replace it. I think one problem is that the cooling is lousy on the ones I've used, at least with two hard drives - I've ended up running with the cover off so it won't die rapidly - but maybe there are better ones out there. Can anyone recommend an integrated SFF system or other small case/mobo combination which they're using with FreeBSD 6 or 7, and which is both long-lived and fairly quiet? (It sits on my desk, and near my wife's desk, so the vacuum-cleaner-like noise levels from many 1U servers will not cut it.) As I am running two 200G PATA drives in gmirror - this has saved me twice now - one additional requirement is that it must fit at least two standard 3.5" hard drives and have an IDE interface. (Eventually I may switch over to SATA but would rather not change everything at the same time.) I'd consider running a Mac Mini (tiny, silent, s/b reliable) if it weren't for needing 2+ drives for mirroring. I'm comfortable either building my own system, or buying a packaged system if it offers better value. Any advice would be welcomed. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- cliftonr@iandicomputing.com / cliftonr@lava.net President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 01:43:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8BA1065672 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695C28FC18 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA715C2ED09 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:44:49 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:43:11 +1000 Message-Id: <1232329391.1138.7.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: age driver cannot handle af18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:43:30 -0000 Just testing the age driver on 7.1-RELEASE and got this error. Can anyone tell me why this might be happening before I go delving into the src? If I ping I get sendto: Address family not supported by protocol family. Surprisingly, this driver is now working- despite the fact that it ws having issues previously which changed with the power source. Also est1 on the cpu (dual core, so this issue is on the second core) is still having trouble, and iwn trouble (testing the backported driver for 7.1 thanks to Brandon) seems to be with scanning, so I'm left wondering about my acpi. What info should I be posting here to help find an answer to these questions plaguing me? :) BTW I'm still reading the developers book and soon be working on the arch book. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 02:27:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3751065675 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.lewis1989@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f26.google.com (mail-gx0-f26.google.com [209.85.217.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5C78FC23 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.lewis1989@gmail.com) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so485679gxk.10 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:27:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; bh=ZDdoCnL6XZUzB72JEGdI4RYYO2v0pSeKHRydA+6p3nw=; b=MBuM0hbEG/IYC1iJ6j/de16uSzr0eEDjqkVbuSiUoHnnFBjJMvCF6sz/GfKbiNIsY/ /SpZIKT8Ypdw1s/Ve7vO90GPo51lSLjhj84kfPVteoN7moBydgxBhbzT74Ur8gkxtICB oHyRbsx5YMPMVF2hHKDEZsTvuy8kH1PqXeCMI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; b=KZIHb6Wc65AC+oT+z3GjYTiR/fp7NtimfxwLPoZfZQcz82QzSr1A6exSvba57AAXq0 bbPfJ7mat0/vk4Dl4hwd/PdqFYx32FwKEvRnaRY/mubVVga54p0rqotXp4tgI16bzGgr iGmmn5SZrjobEQHIWURr2+GJmB/Qh92VdsWok= Received: by 10.151.101.20 with SMTP id d20mr4855731ybm.39.1232331337591; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.199.18 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:15:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <922d8fe50901181815g1a6d3331n3c04539159b24134@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:15:37 +0800 From: "aaron lewis" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: About FreeBSD hardware compatibility? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:27:47 -0000 Hi, I'm a freebsd lovers , i wonna install fbsd7.1 to my laptop (IBM Thinkpad R400 a18). There's no available informations on laptop compatibility lists. So do you have any solutions to make a quick check if everything will work? I know Solaris has a Install_check tool which will give a list whether a hardware has solaris drivers ,third-part driver or not supported. Does Fbsd has something likely? Thk in advance! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 02:45:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC64106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D008FC0C for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2541080rvf.43 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:45:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=6qpqGjaP0fDS8GQN72HLjMtHYZ2j5Y3B3O9d/WvlmUc=; b=NMZMdoXDnRuSOaUNchHvO/nkicWNSjfbehMCD6ZtI1wDJSFRS2ZkLuRmwSEbFm7WAP w5PPY+rjt0W0JW8GYsQ8DouO/E05FbmgEmfLk3zkUGgOazugDqqbwnBwuJAAua4OS26t BcQ9Mhm5McCiYSognP8hzEq0DCsXM19+HCyvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=lM5lVinIs/BPk3SmYxfLetYSLV6B1svyCNEdb8bxbOnNPB3jRx/c1Swe3P14tFpv+v OlUCIuJsPqqRU7Qg1rojmo32dDShy7h+l5P3IetaE9cE3n+OeKWLAJ7tcfQScl/8S3Zy +Qv3sjaMF5J2QSxi74XQ16RebGbcLqLSaoNRI= Received: by 10.141.99.2 with SMTP id b2mr1768178rvm.3.1232331199290; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.172.17 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:13:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9a52b1190901181813ua012a5fna6684b2f3554d2b7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:13:19 +0000 From: "Saifi Khan" Sender: saifikhan@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <237c27100901181541n412f66c3v24ebae43b9efc313@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <237c27100901181541n412f66c3v24ebae43b9efc313@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5671ea931b11f1f9 Subject: Re: Embedded scripting language advice sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:45:42 -0000 On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Linda Messerschmidt wrote: > For a project I'm working on, I need to find an scripting language, and I > have a long wishlist: > > > - able to be "easily" embedded in a C++ application > > - "real" object-oriented with inheritance (preferably multiple inheritance) > > - able to implement object methods in C++ where needed > > - "sandbox" operation (e.g. ability to suppress any file I/O & system > libraries, but keep math and string libraries) > > - thread-safe, or, at least able to have multiple coexisting execution > contexts in one running process > > - relatively user-friendly syntax (i.e. (not (lisp (based)))) > > - has to build and embed on FreeBSD > How about looking at Ruby ? -- thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 03:04:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04271106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F088FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0J34Jnl086593; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:04:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:04:19 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Clifton Royston In-Reply-To: <20090119004620.GD26150@lava.net> Message-ID: <20090118214333.C32776@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <20090119004620.GD26150@lava.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:04:21 -0000 On Sun, 18 Jan 2009, Clifton Royston wrote: [snip] > Can anyone recommend an integrated SFF system or other small > case/mobo combination which they're using with FreeBSD 6 or 7, and > which is both long-lived and fairly quiet? (It sits on my desk, and > near my wife's desk, so the vacuum-cleaner-like noise levels from many > 1U servers will not cut it.) > > As I am running two 200G PATA drives in gmirror - this has saved me > twice now - one additional requirement is that it must fit at least > two standard 3.5" hard drives and have an IDE interface. (Eventually > I may switch over to SATA but would rather not change everything at > the same time.) I'd consider running a Mac Mini (tiny, silent, s/b > reliable) if it weren't for needing 2+ drives for mirroring. > > I'm comfortable either building my own system, or buying a packaged > system if it offers better value. I have a Dell GX150 SFF which has been running 24/7 for about two years now with no problems (knock on wood). Right now it's running 7.1-PRERELEASE from November. It's small and very quiet; I like it. You may have issues with: a) it nominally only supports one hard drive, but there are "slimline" spots for optical and diskette drives, so you may be able to commandeer one of those for a second hard drive; b) the machine I have has SATA interface, which is truly nothing to fear. From FreeBSD's standpoint, it looks exactly like ATA. If I were trying to do what you want to do, I'd probably end up with one HD running SATA in the "hard drive" slot, and the other running PATA in the "optical" slot. I don't know if the physical dimensions would work out for that. See the service manual at http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx150/sm_en/smdsktp.htm ..and the user guide at http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx150/en/ug/index.htm Anyway, I've had good luck so far with Dell desktop hardware; it seems to be well-made, easy to work with and QUIET. Check it out if you can get a machine cheap or free. Hope this helps. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 03:37:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4510F106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stylish62@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f10.google.com (mail-bw0-f10.google.com [209.85.218.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72EB8FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stylish62@gmail.com) Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so563441bwz.19 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:37:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=R54+d+5dumyd3tMg4tAXONRzMbRzedSR/Zzk96f362M=; b=ojOCxr6q30gcMywu7/0Se7M3ioA7VpVZMVr6uM42SSlReUFVQWk7xyj0xRr0hNT/6+ TlOYq8MB0nWu6EO4qDestiKTXhovw+0UVtZ42xhDt7s5cJagVEUv36anGoXFY+14tO+X EGgSagtW/+oCa17zWYDHJv6br4aPp8qD5lMJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=txUc7a6KP+MP79KniN/Uo1qrt6CrVSfS3f0j4boXrDy5Zdrqty3Hp32XiyX7FI9NSP PX4fUkApwQO6hEdmY8QVM3ZftRK4I4OwYPebTy2NDcNxIGFX5+e/mEuO9ak1AfEN8UBx W80QT7TknG/lbFZjD1C6JZt2U81l+3cPE7NTE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.109.200 with SMTP id k8mr2102276fap.44.1232334939651; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:15:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:15:39 -0800 Message-ID: <63ad2d770901181915n58149481kcf7e4b6147685d16@mail.gmail.com> From: Jean-Francois Papineau To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Booting with high resolution console. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:37:25 -0000 Hello, I am wondering about how to enable the vesa high resolution videocontrol modes during the kernel debug message and initialization of the FreeBSD operating system. Currently I am only able to apply the videocontrol modes from the "allscreens_flags" in the global configuration file. Is there any way to accomplish this task with the current release of FreeBSD ? I highly suggest that this feature be added to the development of the FreeBSD operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 03:45:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6140010656C3 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5b.socket.net [216.106.26.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4205F8FC26 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from [10.129.40.202] (216.106.31.239.reverse.socket.net [216.106.31.239]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4C959241 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:45:21 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: From: Jay Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:44:45 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: ldapsearch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:45:22 -0000 I am running the following against an Active Directory server. ldapsearch -D "cn=admin_user,cn=users,dc=xx,dc=com" -x -w "password" - h 10.129.10.42 -p 3268 -b 'dc=abc,dc=com' -s sub '(! (objectclass=computer))' '(!(mail=*))' dn mail I am trying to return only objects for which the mail attribute is defined. I think my search is incorrect, and I am searching for the mail attribute being null. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 03:54:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836DB1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36938FC16 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0J3p0Qx025688 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:51:00 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n0J3rwFX083175; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:53:58 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:53:58 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200901190353.n0J3rwFX083175@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: jhall@socket.net In-reply-to: (message from Jay Hall on Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:44:45 -0600) References: X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ldapsearch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:54:03 -0000 Hi, > I think my search is incorrect, and I am searching for the mail > attribute being null. That's right, (!(mail=*)) means everything where mail is null. You would like to search for mail=*, meaning everything where mail is not null. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 03:58:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E281065672 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F3E8FC12 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.145] (helo=smtp14.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LOlHi-0003FQ-Kk; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:58:46 +0100 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp14.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LOlHh-0003sW-RT; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:58:45 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816E339841; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:58:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4973FA73.1030206@boosten.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:58:43 +0100 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mitja References: <200901181627.32860.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200901181627.32860.lumiwa@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1LOlHh-0003sW-RT X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.1, required 5, BAYES_20 -0.74, SPF_NEUTRAL 0.69, TW_GT 0.08, TW_TK 0.08) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome-keyring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:58:48 -0000 Mitja wrote: > Update of gnome-keyring: > [snip] > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnome-keyring. > I think this might be the solution to your problem (from /usr/ports/UPDATING): 20090110: AFFECTS: users of GNOME and GTK+ AUTHOR: gnome@FreeBSD.org GNOME has been updated to 2.24.x. You have to deinstall a few ports first before using portupgrade or portmaster in order to successfully upgrade your GNOME installation. After successfully upgrade, you have to reinstall gnome-session so the gnome.desktop session file is properly installed. Portupgrade users: # pkgdb -Ff (Answer "yes" to unregister gail while keeping gtk20.) (Answer "yes" to unregister fast-user-switch-applet while keeping gdm.) # pkg_deinstall -fO gtkmm-2.12\* # portupgrade -aOW # portupgrade -f gnome-session Portmaster users: # pkg_delete -f gtkmm-2.12\* # portmaster -a # portmaster gnome-session Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 04:05:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7568A106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5b.socket.net [216.106.26.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A678FC17 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from [10.129.40.202] (216.106.31.239.reverse.socket.net [216.106.31.239]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DB159268; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:05:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <9DFC15B7-CA66-4717-956D-1A761E8539AD@socket.net> From: Jay Hall To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200901190353.n0J3rwFX083175@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:04:50 -0600 References: <200901190353.n0J3rwFX083175@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ldapsearch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:05:26 -0000 On Jan 18, 2009, at 9:53 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > That's right, (!(mail=*)) means everything where mail is null. > > You would like to search for mail=*, meaning everything where mail is > not null. I receive the same results using mail=*. Following is the latest ldapsearch command. ldapsearch -D "cn=admin_user,cn=users,dc=xx,dc=com" -x -w "password" - h 10.129.10.42 -p 3268 -b 'dc=abc,dc=com' -s sub '(! (objectclass=computer))' '(mail=*)' dn mail Is it possible to search on the attribute, mail, not being present? Thanks, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 04:20:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5D21065672 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FA28FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:20:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0J4HiTJ026640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:17:44 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n0J4KgYQ086801; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:20:42 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:20:42 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200901190420.n0J4KgYQ086801@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: jhall@socket.net In-reply-to: <9DFC15B7-CA66-4717-956D-1A761E8539AD@socket.net> (message from Jay Hall on Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:04:50 -0600) References: <200901190353.n0J3rwFX083175@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <9DFC15B7-CA66-4717-956D-1A761E8539AD@socket.net> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ldapsearch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:20:48 -0000 > I receive the same results using mail=*. Following is the latest > ldapsearch command. > > ldapsearch -D "cn=admin_user,cn=users,dc=xx,dc=com" -x -w "password" - > h 10.129.10.42 -p 3268 -b 'dc=abc,dc=com' -s sub '(! > (objectclass=computer))' '(mail=*)' dn mail > > Is it possible to search on the attribute, mail, not being present? Hummm, that may be a feature from Active directory. When searching in LDAP: attribue=* means the attribute is present and set !(attribute=*) means the attribute is not set or the attribute is not present (this attribute does not exist for that object, or the attribute exist for the object but is not being used) I am not using active directory but OpenLDAP, so I canno help further. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 04:32:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3396C1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:32:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD498FC16 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan-a.emsphone.com [199.67.51.107]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n0J4Wq9F037663 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:32:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0J4WqdY072284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:32:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0J4WpF9072278; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:32:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:32:50 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Jay Hall Message-ID: <20090119043250.GB45931@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:32:52 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ldapsearch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:32:54 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 18), Jay Hall said: > I am running the following against an Active Directory server. > > ldapsearch -D "cn=admin_user,cn=users,dc=xx,dc=com" -x -w "password" - > h 10.129.10.42 -p 3268 -b 'dc=abc,dc=com' -s sub > '(!(objectclass=computer))' '(!(mail=*))' dn mail > > I am trying to return only objects for which the mail attribute is > defined. I think my search is incorrect, and I am searching for the > mail attribute being null. Your search filter is currently (!(objectclass=computer)) , and you are asking for the attributes (!(mail=*)), dn, and mail to be returned. I think you want this: '(&(!(objectclass=computer))(mail=*))' i.e. (objectclass isn't computer) AND (mail attribute is present). http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2254 -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 05:22:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E109B1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5b.socket.net [216.106.26.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00978FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from [10.129.40.202] (216.106.31.239.reverse.socket.net [216.106.31.239]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A5859239; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:22:20 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <78E1D535-205D-41E6-8230-2E79AB29C97C@socket.net> From: Jay Hall To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20090119043250.GB45931@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:21:45 -0600 References: <20090119043250.GB45931@dan.emsphone.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ldapsearch question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:22:22 -0000 On Jan 18, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > Your search filter is currently (!(objectclass=computer)) , and you > are asking for the attributes (!(mail=*)), dn, and mail to be > returned. > I think you want this: '(&(!(objectclass=computer))(mail=*))' i.e. > (objectclass isn't computer) AND (mail attribute is present). > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2254 > Thank you this is exactly what I was trying to do. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 06:02:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1DC106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8904A8FC0C for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LOnCv-0006WR-17; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:01:57 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n0J61uIF015280; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:01:56 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 35182FCA4DC; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:01:51 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:01:51 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Andy Smith Message-ID: <20090119060151.GA47488@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Andy Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090118154724.780736hzlg7x77k0@horde.ukgrid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090118154724.780736hzlg7x77k0@horde.ukgrid.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:01:56 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PATH used by www user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:02:03 -0000 On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 03:47:24PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to work out why the PATH is different for the www user > on two different FreeBSD servers. The problem being that on one it > cant find the traceroute binary (via a perl script hosted on apache > 2.2). The www user on both is the FreeBSD default, so has no home > directory on either. The /etc/profile is the same on both servers, > also the login.conf have the same path value set and there are no > /etc/bash files. But still on one server the path is > /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin > and on the other only /bin:/usr/bin. > > Can someone tell me where the path may be being set that I havent looked? > User www doesn't have a shell, profile & hence PATH. I don't know how your path is being set but it depends on perl & how your script looks. Look at Env(3) & the other perldocs. If you want to do it quick, call traceroute with the path in your scripts e.g: system "/usr/sbin/traceroute $some_host"; There's probably a perl module with a "traceroute" in it but I'm afraid I don't know it offhand. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 06:53:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59219106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A898FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2609018rvf.43 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:53:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=00aH0EGaerrCHy+iYvmu9yZT/c2PhOq2Up2wm+6UCZ0=; b=eGXfQhrH/ii4Vqf3tI0Ei92JGf29YJUPDBlqb6MU/KSisnZ4/6O1PGUcRVNRVcoYv3 VvnGGzsVovUE+vHL2qNMXFdNOFQl+UWkFtfc0CRt30LfliZ8lD5tS8sWPOK5xaBtI0f6 Gxl/xs1Qr8rLg7gzYgt3cnoCt6aD4KFUlpOIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KSndIFxxCeb0Q2jc83HVe9t+UHOlPiwovsGl2tIFGXv9ur+lS+iVxfljkEfi3mxxIB UZPByUQC9nXEwCBLxc2r8DmU9tZPJ60HsNr2GU8LykXcWeNkKsgf8/h32jSo7nL+qHC3 8y579EWVgSDkxd7B1KaXEYJNG1x1APOxyKDZc= Received: by 10.141.69.1 with SMTP id w1mr998202rvk.119.1232347997583; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.4.44? (c-68-35-57-46.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.57.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f42sm4109928rvb.5.2009.01.18.22.53.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:53:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49742354.1090305@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:53:08 -0700 From: Tim Judd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aaron lewis References: <922d8fe50901181815g1a6d3331n3c04539159b24134@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <922d8fe50901181815g1a6d3331n3c04539159b24134@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: About FreeBSD hardware compatibility? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:53:19 -0000 aaron lewis wrote: > Hi, > I'm a freebsd lovers , i wonna install fbsd7.1 to my laptop (IBM > Thinkpad R400 a18). > There's no available informations on laptop compatibility lists. So do you > have any solutions to make a quick check if everything will work? > I know Solaris has a Install_check tool which will give a list whether a > hardware has solaris drivers ,third-part driver or not supported. > Does Fbsd has something likely? > Thk in advance! > > The most reliable way to check, is by booting the livefs cd and checking pciconf -lvvv for any none* devices. the none* devices may be given a driver if you load a module, but what's in GENERIC on the livefs, is what's in GENERIC when you first boot it from the hard disk. This is an invaluable tool when I am just curious. It's also the invaluable tool for disaster recovery. Try the CD, and post to -questions when you get stuck with a device that should be recognized. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 06:57:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4420106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FB58FC13 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2843730wfg.7 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:57:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DJqFcTbP1CUxQc+gC7U9w0igmDUGTQ96CRKTloqQ454=; b=SOjBO3Vuy7vfh6xFua4tn3MyvP5autWY4xB0Ftxp1/q/3GFntxb3CA2WuRP7zVfn6P e61MRYdGWP8OhTzq4I0C3Iayk4HjZm8+B0dzfxaomCEhawvhuO7H4hQvU5XMvd1e+Wx/ tmqzmVkIJ2hBAkx7wcjexr34R//6mwfjxxepk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rj2bCnmLBjqhBONwaGpk0YGw/gp4wPyHsjKD5vbpJY6B9yq7BfeEfMPx9MD0sgA7ni MVis8uHg0b1vfzhdMyP9+cqR30wmZpI5lbwLdLkEAT9YGe9XG7mGntV6dGtG88s5fdzG 7NCo79h0ubVU1g30LaQh46hr2uDH6dGI5qd08= Received: by 10.142.177.5 with SMTP id z5mr2124216wfe.40.1232348274318; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.4.44? (c-68-35-57-46.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.57.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 32sm9810958wfc.59.2009.01.18.22.57.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:57:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49742468.1070204@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:57:44 -0700 From: Tim Judd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions References: <20090119004620.GD26150@lava.net> In-Reply-To: <20090119004620.GD26150@lava.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:57:55 -0000 Clifton Royston wrote: > My FreeBSD file server at home has been running for 5 or 6 years on a > succession of generic PC "small form factor" boxes (a.k.a "shoebox > cases".) I'm not very happy with this approach, because the hardware > keeps dying every two years or so. The latest incarnation is getting > flakier and flakier and it's time to replace it. I think one problem > is that the cooling is lousy on the ones I've used, at least with two > hard drives - I've ended up running with the cover off so it won't die > rapidly - but maybe there are better ones out there. > > Can anyone recommend an integrated SFF system or other small > case/mobo combination which they're using with FreeBSD 6 or 7, and > which is both long-lived and fairly quiet? (It sits on my desk, and > near my wife's desk, so the vacuum-cleaner-like noise levels from many > 1U servers will not cut it.) > > As I am running two 200G PATA drives in gmirror - this has saved me > twice now - one additional requirement is that it must fit at least two > standard 3.5" hard drives and have an IDE interface. (Eventually I may > switch over to SATA but would rather not change everything at the same > time.) I'd consider running a Mac Mini (tiny, silent, s/b reliable) if > it weren't for needing 2+ drives for mirroring. > > I'm comfortable either building my own system, or buying a packaged > system if it offers better value. > > Any advice would be welcomed. > -- Clifton > > I've got a shoebox Gateway I love for the case size, however it's drive location for the HDD has to be the worst place on earth to put it there. I'm almost tempted to pull the floppy drive out and stick the hdd in there instead -- but I digress. Taking a little more for desk space, you can always run with 1 internal 3.5" drive, and hook up an external USB drive for the mirror. FreeBSD won't think of it any different, it's just an 'ad' device and a 'da' device. FWIW, this is just another option for you. HTH --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 07:16:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346E2106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C9C8FC1E for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:16:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415B05C2F0EF for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:18:13 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <49742354.1090305@gmail.com> References: <922d8fe50901181815g1a6d3331n3c04539159b24134@mail.gmail.com> <49742354.1090305@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:16:34 +1000 Message-Id: <1232349394.1138.13.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: About FreeBSD hardware compatibility? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:16:53 -0000 On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 23:53 -0700, Tim Judd wrote: > aaron lewis wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm a freebsd lovers , i wonna install fbsd7.1 to my laptop (IBM > > Thinkpad R400 a18). > > There's no available informations on laptop compatibility lists. So do you > > have any solutions to make a quick check if everything will work? > > I know Solaris has a Install_check tool which will give a list whether a > > hardware has solaris drivers ,third-part driver or not supported. > > Does Fbsd has something likely? > > Thk in advance! > > > > > The most reliable way to check, is by booting the livefs cd and checking > pciconf -lvvv for any none* devices. the none* devices may be given a > driver if you load a module, but what's in GENERIC on the livefs, is > what's in GENERIC when you first boot it from the hard disk. > > This is an invaluable tool when I am just curious. It's also the > invaluable tool for disaster recovery. Try the CD, and post to > -questions when you get stuck with a device that should be recognized. > > --Tim Failing that look for the unknown devices (may show like 'multimedia device', etc) when the cd boots up prior to sysinstall. Just keep your eyes peeled as the text scrolls past; its not normally too fast that you can't read it. This may not be 100% (or maybe it is...) but if it shows up those tell tale signs here you can be sure its not supported. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 08:43:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040DC1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eriam@mediavirtuel.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF4B8FC14 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eriam@mediavirtuel.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1066946ywe.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:43:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.136.15 with SMTP id j15mr1031407and.11.1232351105262; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:45:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <179b97fb0901181217v475a4a6aw127634c4c472266@mail.gmail.com> References: <179b97fb0901181217v475a4a6aw127634c4c472266@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:45:05 +0100 Message-ID: From: Eriam Schaffter To: Brandon Gooch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iwn driver on 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:43:58 -0000 2009/1/18 Brandon Gooch > I have a working driver for the Intel 4965, aka iwn(4), loaded on my > Lenovo X300 running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE (amd64). > Wonderfull to say the least ! Seeing that you run successfully 7.1 on a X300 is excellent ! Did you manage to get suspend/resume aka hibernation working somehow ? Thanks Eriam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 09:16:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F1C1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net) Received: from mx1.ukgrid.net (mx1.ukgrid.net [89.107.16.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AA68FC2B for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net) Received: from www by mx1.ukgrid.net with local (Exim 4.69; FreeBSD) auth-from www envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net id 1LOqEu-000OZd-8F; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:16:12 +0000 Received: from blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com (blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com [195.212.29.67]) by horde.ukgrid.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:16:12 +0000 Message-ID: <20090119091612.23733vte33zp7we8@horde.ukgrid.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:16:12 +0000 From: Andy Smith To: Frank Shute References: <20090118154724.780736hzlg7x77k0@horde.ukgrid.net> <20090119060151.GA47488@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090119060151.GA47488@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 Sender: World Wide Web Owner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PATH used by www user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:16:57 -0000 Hi Frank, thanks for your responce, the PATH isn't set within the perl script =20 with ENV (and the script is identical on both systems). I've already =20 asked the question on the perl mailing list and came to the conclusion =20 the difference was something at the UNIX level on FreeBSD. There are =20 various ways I can easily work around it, but it just seemed so basic =20 I wanted to know how it was being set :S thanks, Andy. Quoting Frank Shute : > > User www doesn't have a shell, profile & hence PATH. > > I don't know how your path is being set but it depends on perl & how > your script looks. > > Look at Env(3) & the other perldocs. > > If you want to do it quick, call traceroute with the path in your > scripts e.g: > > system "/usr/sbin/traceroute $some_host"; > > There's probably a perl module with a "traceroute" in it but I'm > afraid I don't know it offhand. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 09:49:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1AE1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver@nemesis.charlie.mouhaha.de) Received: from nemesis.charlie.mouhaha.de (nemesis.charlie.mouhaha.de [78.47.10.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4438FC18 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver@nemesis.charlie.mouhaha.de) Received: from localhost (nemesis.charlie.mouhaha.de [78.47.10.193]) by nemesis.charlie.mouhaha.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BD118447; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:29:43 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mouhaha.de Received: from nemesis.charlie.mouhaha.de ([78.47.10.193]) by localhost (nemesis.charlie.mouhaha.de [78.47.10.193]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6lSxML2gMK8C; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:29:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nemesis.charlie.mouhaha.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D9D281843F; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:29:41 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:29:41 +0000 From: Oliver Peter To: David Allen Message-ID: <20090119092941.GC95736@nemesis.frida.mouhaha.de> References: <2daa8b4e0901160606rdeb7a1cu840f800458e9e38f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0901160606rdeb7a1cu840f800458e9e38f@mail.gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Upgrading Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:49:32 -0000 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 06:06:49AM -0800, David Allen wrote: > I have a test system where I've accumulated a large number of jails. To > update them (I'm not using the method outlined in the Handbook), I'd like > to avoid mounting /usr/src and /usr/obj within each and then jexec-ing a > shell but instead, perform everything on the host system directly. Would > the following be appropriate? Why bother with updating each jail and waste diskspace when you can have ezjail (sysutils/ezjail) to create and update your jails in one go? -- Oliver PETER, email: oliver@peter.de.com, ICQ# 113969174 "If it feels good, you're doing something wrong." -- Coach McTavish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 12:10:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C521210658BA for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9BE8FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LOsxJ-0003gt-Uc; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:10:13 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n0JCADPv000989; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:10:13 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F28C6FCA4DC; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:10:07 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:10:07 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Andy Smith Message-ID: <20090119121007.GA48330@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Andy Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090118154724.780736hzlg7x77k0@horde.ukgrid.net> <20090119060151.GA47488@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090119091612.23733vte33zp7we8@horde.ukgrid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090119091612.23733vte33zp7we8@horde.ukgrid.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:10:13 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PATH used by www user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:10:26 -0000 On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 09:16:12AM +0000, Andy Smith wrote: > > > Quoting Frank Shute : > > > > > >User www doesn't have a shell, profile & hence PATH. > > > >I don't know how your path is being set but it depends on perl & how > >your script looks. > > > >Look at Env(3) & the other perldocs. > > > >If you want to do it quick, call traceroute with the path in your > >scripts e.g: > > > >system "/usr/sbin/traceroute $some_host"; > > > >There's probably a perl module with a "traceroute" in it but I'm > >afraid I don't know it offhand. > > Hi Frank, > > thanks for your responce, the PATH isn't set within the perl script > with ENV (and the script is identical on both systems). I've already > asked the question on the perl mailing list and came to the conclusion > the difference was something at the UNIX level on FreeBSD. There are > various ways I can easily work around it, but it just seemed so basic > I wanted to know how it was being set :S > > thanks, Andy. > Hi Andy, I had to look at the Camel book & although it isn't explicit, it seems like the script inherits the environment of the calling process i.e Apache in this case. Apache sets the environment with SetEnv (or at least 1.3 does, I don't run 2*) as it can't inherit one from user www since it doesn't have one. So have you had a look at httpd.conf and .htaccess on each machine? BTW, one machine uses an "old" PATH with /usr/X11R6/bin in it. That disappeared some time ago. That may or may not be a clue. In short, I think this is probably an Apache question & you might have more informative answers from there. Sorry I can't be more helpful but quite a few Apache people run FreeBSD and they're likely to be more help than I am. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 12:22:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082FD1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marshc187@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f11.google.com (mail-fx0-f11.google.com [209.85.220.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A918FC1B for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marshc187@gmail.com) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so632769fxm.19 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:22:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mawii7FGh8RuIr2UkyoUeR7nP8wYAY//25Da7vbIwhs=; b=RO5kANutORJV1EJkSSGbre+H9ZFVG8JzmbEn3gM8+un7j7Sm8ZRb2ZLrundHyxt36X Z87pHblRssnFfJESOMNRKy3JcNM6tKg4/Gs3/ulIoF63771N0PwEQhSuaqaoXwGjSI1U /Np/rHro3SjuFJ+irNe+jyXNtWtztS+rsdzZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dy5c+1Ms35+ePLpzkFeiodP47T20kKO70aYevFY9d7+krDtGoTZW0zjrcfne8CTrIe rfUqyudlMXegrXm8EkeIe5dJ2DXwL6UMU1dtjSBxu+a4Xuc3vAz+MDdkQxIqOos8p94P kI7GbpU2WqQ6vQd5Ic5GPHc684awZ2bTezUMM= Received: by 10.223.108.75 with SMTP id e11mr5659865fap.97.1232367767150; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ilras.barsh.com ([92.251.20.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b17sm4940605fka.4.2009.01.19.04.22.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:22:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49747EA1.9080401@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:22:41 +0100 From: cwt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Boosten References: <200901181627.32860.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4973FA73.1030206@boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <4973FA73.1030206@boosten.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mitja , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome-keyring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:22:49 -0000 Peter Boosten wrote: > Mitja wrote: > >> Update of gnome-keyring: >> >> > [snip] > >> Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnome-keyring. >> >> > I think this might be the solution to your problem (from > /usr/ports/UPDATING): > > > 20090110: > AFFECTS: users of GNOME and GTK+ > AUTHOR: gnome@FreeBSD.org > > GNOME has been updated to 2.24.x. You have to deinstall a few ports first > before using portupgrade or portmaster in order to successfully upgrade > your GNOME installation. After successfully upgrade, you have to > reinstall > gnome-session so the gnome.desktop session file is properly installed. > > Portupgrade users: > # pkgdb -Ff > (Answer "yes" to unregister gail while keeping gtk20.) > (Answer "yes" to unregister fast-user-switch-applet while keeping gdm.) > > # pkg_deinstall -fO gtkmm-2.12\* > # portupgrade -aOW > # portupgrade -f gnome-session > > Portmaster users: > # pkg_delete -f gtkmm-2.12\* > # portmaster -a > # portmaster gnome-session > > > > Peter > oh, sorry, i replied to the poster only, not group. this was related to perl update, and seems it would affect most ports that use perl to build, not just gnome-keyring. in UPDATING 20090113: AFFECTS: users of lang/perl5.8 AUTHOR: skv@FreeBSD.org lang/perl5.8 has been updated to 5.8.9. You should update everything depending on perl. The easiest way to do that is to use perl-after-upgrade script supplied with lang/perl5.8. Please see its manual page for details rgds From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 12:39:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2832C1065673 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:39:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7DB8FC35 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:39:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1090142yxb.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:39:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=E+o6MG92GSuC0l96nUJW5ehlm0CVM51P4380yFppmTY=; b=ovbDbd9VB2stvhiWDC0e3AsBc1LhHcQN5iXA3EqNopHZLoBCARgkodCV222H2hc6HL 73Loy8/zxU7p2+qqH7QZ2tSTiuj+bPJXrDN+QbfMuLgY3/K2Wa+bDAM6GgBraD06vfOB l5R13fnk8Rznxx8PWh5tkC1Nm83iG8VH7VhBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=WK2RCW+q7r0ITn88xPjBBV8yN/6KokNmxLNY4FYFBwtJb6EK46MVjY5hgEvZjl4+IO DtqUJ4RclqCygaI5Q+Kae4H8x2Km9PmkgW50Iva50VrlPknkDQvGf90JKf+XnViO8Dtd XlQ1rtWK0PsMpNra/2B6+BeTAEc+02G74rq/M= Received: by 10.100.197.7 with SMTP id u7mr771254anf.72.1232366921313; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:08:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? (CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b14sm3625970ana.36.2009.01.19.04.08.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:08:40 -0800 (PST) From: Mitja To: Peter Boosten Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:08:25 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901181627.32860.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4973FA73.1030206@boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <4973FA73.1030206@boosten.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901190608.25700.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome-keyring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:39:19 -0000 On Sunday 18 January 2009 21:58:43 Peter Boosten wrote: > Mitja wrote: > > Update of gnome-keyring: > > [snip] > > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnome-keyring. > > I think this might be the solution to your problem (from > /usr/ports/UPDATING): > > > 20090110: > AFFECTS: users of GNOME and GTK+ > AUTHOR: gnome@FreeBSD.org > > GNOME has been updated to 2.24.x. You have to deinstall a few ports > first before using portupgrade or portmaster in order to successfully > upgrade your GNOME installation. After successfully upgrade, you have to > reinstall > gnome-session so the gnome.desktop session file is properly installed. > > Portupgrade users: > # pkgdb -Ff > (Answer "yes" to unregister gail while keeping gtk20.) > (Answer "yes" to unregister fast-user-switch-applet while keeping gdm.) > > # pkg_deinstall -fO gtkmm-2.12\* > # portupgrade -aOW > # portupgrade -f gnome-session > > Portmaster users: > # pkg_delete -f gtkmm-2.12\* > # portmaster -a > # portmaster gnome-session > > > > Peter It was perl-after-upgrade -f Thank you. -- Mitja __________________ They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear satanic messages...but that's nothing, if you play it forward it will install Windows! ********************************** http://www.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 12:51:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953C5106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:51:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net) Received: from mx1.ukgrid.net (mx1.ukgrid.net [89.107.16.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAA68FC13 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net) Received: from www by mx1.ukgrid.net with local (Exim 4.69; FreeBSD) auth-from www envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net id 1LOtaZ-0005HX-76; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:50:47 +0000 Received: from blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com (blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com [195.212.29.67]) by horde.ukgrid.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:50:47 +0000 Message-ID: <20090119125047.1346192x8cuo5hdw@horde.ukgrid.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:50:47 +0000 From: Andy Smith To: Frank Shute References: <20090118154724.780736hzlg7x77k0@horde.ukgrid.net> <20090119060151.GA47488@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090119091612.23733vte33zp7we8@horde.ukgrid.net> <20090119121007.GA48330@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090119121007.GA48330@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 Sender: World Wide Web Owner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PATH used by www user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:51:33 -0000 Hi Frank, thanks a lot for looking into it. Yes one server is an older =20 FreeBSD 6.1, the other 7.0 so they certainly aren't identical servers. =20 But they do have same version of apache (2.2.9) and same version of =20 the perl script, and as far as I can tell same config for default PATH =20 etc. I had a look and there doesnt appear to be anything setting the =20 path in the apache conifg, perhaps it could be a compiled in default =20 path?! I'll ask the apache experts and see if they can help, thanks again, Andy. Quoting Frank Shute : > > Hi Andy, > > I had to look at the Camel book & although it isn't explicit, it seems > like the script inherits the environment of the calling process i.e > Apache in this case. Apache sets the environment with SetEnv (or at > least 1.3 does, I don't run 2*) as it can't inherit one from user www > since it doesn't have one. So have you had a look at httpd.conf and > .htaccess on each machine? > > BTW, one machine uses an "old" PATH with /usr/X11R6/bin in it. That > disappeared some time ago. That may or may not be a clue. > > In short, I think this is probably an Apache question & you might have > more informative answers from there. > > Sorry I can't be more helpful but quite a few Apache people run > FreeBSD and they're likely to be more help than I am. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 14:00:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C48106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from d.mail.ru.ac.za (d.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9E88FC19 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:56908) by d.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LOugO-000J2w-Hg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:00:52 +0200 Received: from iwr61.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.161]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LOugO-0002sW-Ca for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:00:52 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:01:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4974A3C0.10084.EF6B689@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: d.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.36) Subject: monitor DG965 montherbaord X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:00:55 -0000 Hiya folks I want to monitor the fans and temperatures on a Intel DG965 motherbaord. I have added the coretamp driver to get temps from the dual core CPU, but so far I cannot find a way to get the motherboard temperatures. I normally use mbmon for this, works well on other (older) motherboards. FreeBSD 7R -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 14:46:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC231065678 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF898FC17 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0JEkqYS013266 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:46:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id n0JEkqdr013263 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:46:52 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:46:52 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: / mounted read-only after error in /etc/rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:46:57 -0000 I made a typing error when chanign /etc/rc.conf (linux_enable=YES") when rebooting the system, the boot stops /etc/rc.conf: 22: Syntax error: Unterminated quote string Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: # this leaves me with /dev/ds0s1a on / (ufs, local, read-only) since / is read-only I can not edit /etc/rc.conf to correct the error. How to solve this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 14:51:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC6A1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A2058FC1F for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 44136 invoked by uid 89); 19 Jan 2009 15:05:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 19 Jan 2009 15:05:21 -0000 Message-ID: <49749373.5040500@ibctech.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:51:31 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pieter Donche References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: / mounted read-only after error in /etc/rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:51:35 -0000 Pieter Donche wrote: > I made a typing error when chanign /etc/rc.conf > (linux_enable=YES") > when rebooting the system, the boot stops > /etc/rc.conf: 22: Syntax error: Unterminated quote string > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > # > this leaves me with > /dev/ds0s1a on / (ufs, local, read-only) > > since / is read-only I can not edit /etc/rc.conf to correct the error. > > How to solve this? Try: # mount -u / Which will try to re-mount the / partition as read/write. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 14:54:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51411065674 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ED28FC12 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Jan 2009 09:54:42 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id PKS62431; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Jan 2009 09:54:42 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18804.37937.713869.998623@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:54:41 -0500 To: Pieter Donche In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: / mounted read-only after error in /etc/rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:54:44 -0000 Pieter Donche writes: > I made a typing error when chanign /etc/rc.conf > (linux_enable=YES") > when rebooting the system, the boot stops > /etc/rc.conf: 22: Syntax error: Unterminated quote string > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > # > this leaves me with > /dev/ds0s1a on / (ufs, local, read-only) > > since / is read-only I can not edit /etc/rc.conf to correct the error. > > How to solve this? 1) boot to single user mode 2) (if necessary) mount /usr by hand to get access to favorite editor 3) edit rc.conf 4) re-boot Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 15:13:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8981065672 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f21.google.com (mail-gx0-f21.google.com [209.85.217.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932328FC0C for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so3114616gxk.19 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:13:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ocQcgw7Bu5t6u29h1UdWr3TTAqhTaUTpNtKfOlM/5SY=; b=dUl/xwC8z4XUUYxO/QRZiGu09XKpscSoCetoiQUbKN/MsEEbK/CWRfXvVBPmz8QtM5 2oDbk6cpwJImKjM94dhpszrWkcVL/og727/l1wVEUYOYjVjexPEIA6GIX3l2eKeGL4Vh /e2PVfvr/moe0NTmhRBbWjabYnn7t43OGlm7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uetcY1DUqWREBQE/VNDncvxnW9rh0llCO+zUigePhDb0z9PwqBlWwNDr8kAw5z0FAO G9qVukjkdI2EhDNuNy1S/4y5N9xyUk63ePvmh4bkbZYdjkuCSajEcgK0AroGKKmxL5YE 8baTa46EPV5N2I8/byFJ3atQzszyS/k7NtWeo= Received: by 10.90.70.6 with SMTP id s6mr2413073aga.115.1232377988923; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.148? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 38sm3745359agd.21.2009.01.19.07.13.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:13:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49749882.1080404@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:13:06 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clifton Royston References: <20090119004620.GD26150@lava.net> In-Reply-To: <20090119004620.GD26150@lava.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:13:10 -0000 Clifton Royston wrote: > I'd consider running a Mac Mini (tiny, silent, s/b reliable) if > it weren't for needing 2+ drives for mirroring. > this would work fine with gmirror using usb/firewire drives. there is also the droboshare. great little fileserver. aopen cubes run great. i've had one since 2005, runs quiet with two fans. they fully support freebsd and it can be more than a fileserver. its about the size of a two slice toaster. it runs below 25db of noise. > I'm comfortable either building my own system, or buying a packaged > system if it offers better value. > > Any advice would be welcomed. > -- Clifton > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 15:55:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8421D10656F1 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A020B8FC14 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp5.yandex.ru (smtp5.yandex.ru [77.88.32.24]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 09CA44C5DA1 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:55:19 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 165-33-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net ([92.113.33.165]:38410 "EHLO homeuser" smtp-auth: "kes-kes" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S6144113AbZASPzM (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:55:12 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp5 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1232380512 X-BornDate: 1149541200 X-Yandex-Karma: 0 X-Yandex-KarmaStatus: 0 X-MsgDayCount: 1 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp5.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kes-kes Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:55:16 +0200 From: KES X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: SaftTen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <914863280.20090119175516@yandex.ru> To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: swap_pager_getswapspace(7): failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KES List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:55:26 -0000 Здравствуйте, Questions. Jan 19 17:00:01 kes kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(7): failed Jan 19 17:00:01 kes kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed Jan 19 17:00:01 kes kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed Jan 19 17:00:01 kes kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(4): failed How to detect which process "eat" all swap space? -- С уважением, KES mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 16:07:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803AE1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp244.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp244.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4829A8FC0C for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9F2BF22C24F for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay14.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 00E742369E3 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:07:22 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:07:18 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: freebsd-update fetching files failed Thread-Index: Acl6UABu7+RiC+TRVEmSR+17DZU32Q== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd-update fetching files failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:07:25 -0000 a funny thing happened on wat to 7.1 today (from 7.0-p6): # freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.1-RELEASE Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.0-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Fetching 1 metadata patches. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 1 metadata files... done. Inspecting system... done. The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: ... Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y Fetching metadata signature for 7.1-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Fetching 1 metadata patches. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 1 metadata files... done. Inspecting system... done. Fetching files from 7.0-RELEASE for merging... done. Preparing to download files... done. Fetching 17537 patches.....10....20....30....40....50....60....70....80....90....100.... ... 4120....4130....4140. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 12842 files... failed. failed? at this point i couldn't think of anything else to do but try again: # freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.1-RELEASE Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.0-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Fetching 1 metadata patches. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 1 metadata files... done. Inspecting system... done. The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: ... Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y Fetching metadata signature for 7.1-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Fetching 1 metadata patches. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 1 metadata files... done. Inspecting system... done. Fetching files from 7.0-RELEASE for merging... done. Preparing to download files... done. Fetching 7292 patches.....10....20....30....40....50....60....70....80....90....100....110 ... 2030....2040....2050....2060....2070....2080....2090....2100.. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 5549 files... done. Attempting to automatically merge changes in files... done. so i'm assuming a network error during the download of the fetching files in the first attempt. but... it seems odd. if 17537 patches were downloaded...done, i.e. sucessfully, how come the second attempt downloads an additional 7292 patches? the road continues... The following file could not be merged automatically: /etc/hosts Press Enter to edit this file in vi and resolve the conflicts manually... so then i go through the manual merging of config files and later i am asked to confirm the changes: The following changes, which occurred between FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE and FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE have been merged into /etc/hosts: ... Does this look reasonable (y/n)? n i answered 'n' and freebsd-update turned its back on me like a huffy teenager. if it didn't want to know the truth, why did it ask? a parting message to suggest what i might do next would have been welcome. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 16:20:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012B8106568A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66088FC23 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n0JGJj5P051998; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:19:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n0JGJjm0051997; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:19:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:19:45 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Tobias Daub Message-ID: <20090119161945.GB51908@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49736DE6.40601@gmx.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49736DE6.40601@gmx.li> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Experience with DELL PowerEdge 2900 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:20:32 -0000 On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 06:59:02PM +0100, Tobias Daub wrote: > Hi There, > > I'm pretty new to UNIX/FreeBSD and I'm going to install and administrate > FreeBSD on a DELL PowerEdge 2900. > > Does anybody have experience with that machine, or are there any known > problems, for example: > > - Perc RAID Controller > - attaching an APC to the machine and configuring the corresponding software > - ACPI Should be no serious problem. I have loaded up a few 2950-s, same thing in a rack mount. The only problem I had was figuring out the device name for the disks. It has been more than a year, so my memory is fogging a little. But, it seems like dmesg showed both the individual disk devices and the raid device and you could address them either way and I errantly addressed the disk instead of the raid when I first tried to do something with them. Once I figured out what was happening by studying the dmesg more carefully, all was well. The only other thing is that the DRAC is less than hoped for if you got it with one. It really wants to live in MS land and seems to want for security. It was like the people building those DRACs have never heard of anything but MS 'networking' stuff, barely know that the internet exists or that wide open, non-protected connections in to the heart of your system might actually be attacked by some unfriendly entity. I have heard that the code for them has been updated a few times, so it might be a little better, but I won't hold my breath. Anyway, the DRACs don't affect the operation of the rest of the machine as long as you leave them unplugged from the net. So, 2900 should run FreeBSD just fine. ////jerry > > Thanks alot! > Tobias > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 16:28:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A18106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B848FC13 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n0JGRqU0052071; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:27:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n0JGRqda052070; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:27:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:27:52 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Linda Messerschmidt Message-ID: <20090119162751.GD51908@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <237c27100901181541n412f66c3v24ebae43b9efc313@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <237c27100901181541n412f66c3v24ebae43b9efc313@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Embedded scripting language advice sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:28:38 -0000 On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 06:41:59PM -0500, Linda Messerschmidt wrote: > For a project I'm working on, I need to find an scripting language, and I > have a long wishlist: Oh Oh, you're going to start a religious war now. Well, good luck and be ready to take everything you hear with a shovelful of salt or preferrably maybe something either mindnumbing or psychodelic. ////jerry > > > - able to be "easily" embedded in a C++ application > > - "real" object-oriented with inheritance (preferably multiple inheritance) > > - able to implement object methods in C++ where needed > > - "sandbox" operation (e.g. ability to suppress any file I/O & system > libraries, but keep math and string libraries) > > - thread-safe, or, at least able to have multiple coexisting execution > contexts in one running process > > - relatively user-friendly syntax (i.e. (not (lisp (based)))) > > - has to build and embed on FreeBSD > > > This is a mathematical model, and the goal is to write certain > high-performance parts in C++, but to provide the user a command-line style > interface where they can "explore" interactively, examine/tweak data values, > etc, and then override certain behavior by subclassing from the C++ base > classes using the scripting language to see how it affects the next model > iteration. One thread is handling the model calculations, and one handles > the user's exploration, with appropriate synchronization when changes are > made. (We are doing this already, but since the code is C++, only the data > can be edited while it's running and inspection is limited to our hacky > pseudo-language.) > > > The obvious choice for this was Lua; it hits a lot of the marks, but not all > of them and not all well. I got as far as creating a Lua "object" in C++ > that exposes some core functionality, which is great, but when it comes to > inheritance, and especially multiple inheritance, Lua's object model wasn't > thrilling me. Also, it uses setjmp for error handling, which I'm worried > will mess around with C++ exceptions; they are already fragile enough in > threaded applications. > > > I do like Lua, but I'd really rather find an embedded scripting language > designed from the start to support OO, if one exists. Are there other > alternatives I should look at? Lua is to C as ______ is to C++? > > > I tried to give Guile a look but a quick poll of the users vetoed the > syntax. Lua is clearly ahead in the user-friendly department. > > > I also wondered if Python would be a good choice, but I'm just not sure > about how well it handles having new code generated more or less on the fly > in the middle of a running application. I somewhat suspect that if it were > done in Python, it would end up being a Python app with C++ add-ins, rather > than a C++ app with an embedded scripting language. That isn't a > deal-breaker, of course, as long as it works; results matter. That's not > exactly "lightweight" though, and I'm not sure if (or how) Python sandboxes. > > > One last "wouldn't it be nice" wish... If the user creates something they > particularly like on the fly, compositing up an object a piece at a time on > the command line, it would be just grand if the scripting language were able > to reproduce a class definition for that arbitrary object that could be > saved or tweaked for later reference and reuse. If not, we'll just have to > abstract the editing process enough to keep one ourselves, which would > probably be a bit user-unfriendly but hardly the end of the world. > > > But with a wishlist this long and exotic, I'm afraid the question here is > not whether something can do it all, but how disappointed I'm going to be. > :-( > > > I'm grateful for any language suggestions or feedback. Is Lua as close as > we can get? Python? Other?! > > > Thanks! > > > -LM > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 16:36:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8370E10656F2 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEB48FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1144204ywe.13 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:36:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=8x6oPioVna7SppxSNCK7ohb8P9P+qV9F5aHJF4No49w=; b=RNS0iffGaWngUkvbDeK5I4EFdvqOkXSxdiud8+ugotxHiJYSAwt0hEZebnsfJCKA1U HbHa0pkBIWaG2ICMNNOaDOjkHYj54zUd0BchxhQ7RS9UJJzUoULUa56s6mgE6uYOQMun aSr+DHjs63VCHeWqhQjINoB+nGiH7e8dXHBOY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=lJqH6zJw9aWEB9m/QvYzQ7otchjGxarUl8oeCftHE2xqy5gnLbQ7cEDCGoNYbVFa5I poVsEQZ+oP5f3E044rcpkwmTf969RAUIFDaU+hU0yl5PWhmVAYANy5rfCa6nA/TKJIzS UEgSM4+jdT5TStbBH32y+0rBmuzP+SZIioyyw= Received: by 10.90.63.6 with SMTP id l6mr2480830aga.51.1232382983035; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.148? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm3812624agb.23.2009.01.19.08.36.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:36:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4974AC04.3060307@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:36:20 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <49736DE6.40601@gmx.li> <20090119161945.GB51908@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090119161945.GB51908@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: hannes.flocke@gmx.li, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Experience with DELL PowerEdge 2900 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:36:28 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 06:59:02PM +0100, Tobias Daub wrote: > > >> Hi There, >> >> I'm pretty new to UNIX/FreeBSD and I'm going to install and administrate >> FreeBSD on a DELL PowerEdge 2900. >> >> Does anybody have experience with that machine, or are there any known >> problems, for example: >> >> - Perc RAID Controller >> - attaching an APC to the machine and configuring the corresponding software >> - ACPI >> > > Should be no serious problem. I have loaded up a few 2950-s, same > thing in a rack mount. The only problem I had was figuring out > the device name for the disks. > > It has been more than a year, so my memory is fogging a little. > But, it seems like dmesg showed both the individual disk devices > and the raid device and you could address them either way and I > errantly addressed the disk instead of the raid when I first tried > to do something with them. Once I figured out what was happening > by studying the dmesg more carefully, all was well. > > in my case, it shows a list of devices daX-daXn then the raid device as the total space, of course this is only if the raid was configured in the bios to begin with. #http://lh5.ggpht.com/_0o9aKBCt5DY/RuME-dMAV0I/AAAAAAAAAC0/6EqgQQmDa0Q/office1.jpg# both of my 2900s run freebsd perfectly, all cores supported and 64G ram each. my drac worked fine as well... ymmv. i did have to rebuild the kernel and specify the number of cpu with the 6.x branch, 7R also. 8 runs great. esx also runs great and you could run your freebsd system in that, i've done that on one of the 2900s. also worthy of note is that freebsd will run excellent even in vmware workstation as long as you have a fair amount of ram. using these machines to their full potential is an excellent idea, virt does that pretty well. > The only other thing is that the DRAC is less than hoped for if you > got it with one. It really wants to live in MS land and seems to want > for security. It was like the people building those DRACs have never > heard of anything but MS 'networking' stuff, barely know that the > internet exists or that wide open, non-protected connections in to the > heart of your system might actually be attacked by some unfriendly entity. > I have heard that the code for them has been updated a few times, so it > might be a little better, but I won't hold my breath. > > Anyway, the DRACs don't affect the operation of the rest of the machine > as long as you leave them unplugged from the net. > > So, 2900 should run FreeBSD just fine. > > ////jerry > > >> Thanks alot! >> Tobias >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 17:20:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81B9106566B for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5B78FC1C for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2817538rvf.43 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:20:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=5SxxjgTFsvgdD/1sSxcazKspuqbAoIX2ix6ABv2ZgF0=; b=B1BSBg/pCmdTXQGqAVF2EKACIJ8Df8lR8j1ZfOomEUtyEhjCtdys+4b0Kshu6yJJu8 ToJiDIsa10ltRdWRdgSa3+YUagt5ov6oFKypYr/q5PELG5QyDYB3UXlJ7fL4XPWF1qNI w8k0oth29tU0yscRYL25ROheo2MEokdsntgDE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=SpjKpp3poKcmkIM/P9jJC5yEzFfYXkkzG3Qdf93iqV8C6bFVPz+82hJS9ID8rjC3QK 66joqmpn0l3FVOcyj5/0Bga9F96ko9OqngwMltR162zuXTE3PUe5jt5NsjvB1f3u0n62 5Q/pxIpsQpHJ0IPrgANdTzKftIj2L8tKY0DLg= Received: by 10.141.97.5 with SMTP id z5mr2919533rvl.269.1232385610120; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.140.19 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:20:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2b5f066d0901190920o625ed7bbgdc0919e47a182644@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:20:10 -0500 From: "Brian McCann" To: michael In-Reply-To: <49749882.1080404@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20090119004620.GD26150@lava.net> <49749882.1080404@gmail.com> Cc: Clifton Royston , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:20:10 -0000 On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:13 AM, michael wrote: > > > Clifton Royston wrote: >> >> I'd consider running a Mac Mini (tiny, silent, s/b reliable) if >> it weren't for needing 2+ drives for mirroring. >> > > this would work fine with gmirror using usb/firewire drives. > there is also the droboshare. great little fileserver. > aopen cubes run great. i've had one since 2005, runs quiet with two fans. > they fully support freebsd and it can be more than a fileserver. its about > the size of a two slice toaster. it runs below 25db of noise. > >> I'm comfortable either building my own system, or buying a packaged >> system if it offers better value. >> >> Any advice would be welcomed. >> -- Clifton >> >> As a heads up, if you do this, do NOT use the Western Digital MyBooks...I tried this...and gave up and got a D-Link NAS. The MyBooks "sleep" after no activity, and I was getting serious corruption. --Brian -- _-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_ Brian McCann "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of people waiting to abuse me." -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 17:32:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA33106568B for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64CC8FC26 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [69.69.69.183] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KDQ003OABDNNLJ0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:32:11 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4974B9A2.4070709@optiksecurite.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:34:26 -0500 From: FreeBSD User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Advice for dump/restore over SSH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:32:13 -0000 Hi everyone, I'm having difficulties trying to clone a FreeBSD 7.1 PC to another exact same PC over SSH. There is my the things I tried: I found that link http://devpit.org/wiki/Dump_and_Restore_over_SSH which seemed exactly what I wanted. The problem is that FreeSBIE is not working on this PC (Dell Vostro 220 Slim). It seems to be a problem with the disk controler (can't mount the / partition). So, I decided to install a minimal FreeBSD 7.1 on the PC to be cloned. I'm trying to dump/restore the /usr partition but I got warnings with the files already being present and it finally crashed SSHd just after transfering /usr/lib/libssl.so. After that, there is nothing to do with the PC, SSHd refuse to restart (segmentation fault). The other soon to be a problem is to dump/restore the / partition (the kernel and the others currently used files). My question is how do you clone PC over SSH (it would be too much a PITA to open each case to plug the HD directly in the source PC). Thanks a lot for sharing, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 17:46:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC741065675 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32F38FC13 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0JHkJPb073115; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:46:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7679AB853; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:46:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:46:19 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20090119174619.GA43749@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4974B9A2.4070709@optiksecurite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4974B9A2.4070709@optiksecurite.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advice for dump/restore over SSH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:46:28 -0000 --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:34:26PM -0500, FreeBSD wrote: > My question is how do you clone PC over SSH (it would be too much a PITA= =20 > to open each case to plug the HD directly in the source PC). Would it have to be ssh? Why not just use netcat [nc(1)] if both machines are on your local network? Try something like: newfs /dev/foo mount /dev/foo /mntroot cd /mntroot nc -l 65000| restore -rvf - dump -0 -a -C 8 -L -u -f - / | nc 65000 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl0vGsACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV0lACghPHYEX7Km0f/lVDYExOgJvtx 6VYAn1HPiCSTjSv990m51vKmivs5tu9v =GyZR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 18:07:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2E51065674 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BF58FC14 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 19972 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2009 18:07:23 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 19 Jan 2009 18:07:23 -0000 Message-ID: <4974BF93.4080000@telenix.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:59:47 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4974B9A2.4070709@optiksecurite.com> <20090119174619.GA43749@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090119174619.GA43749@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advice for dump/restore over SSH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:07:25 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:34:26PM -0500, FreeBSD wrote: >> My question is how do you clone PC over SSH (it would be too much a PITA >> to open each case to plug the HD directly in the source PC). > > Would it have to be ssh? Why not just use netcat [nc(1)] if both > machines are on your local network? > > Try something like: > > > newfs /dev/foo > mount /dev/foo /mntroot > cd /mntroot > nc -l 65000| restore -rvf - > > > dump -0 -a -C 8 -L -u -f - / | nc 65000 > > Roland Your answer is perfectly correct, but a couple of reasons makes me want to point up a tried & true tool like rsync. It'll do what the man wants while using ssh to cover security, give really nice running feedback (if the user likes that sort of thing, I do), and because it's basically a lot less general a tool than netcat, it's a bunch simpler for an occaisonal user to figure out the parameters on ... it's made precisely for this sort of job. Of course, it happens to be true that, if you are going to really spend the time to learn one of them, your time'd probably be better spent with netcat, it's got many more things it can do, but like I said, for an occaisonal user, well, I wouldn't have recommended that. Of course, a not terribly big shell script could make nc look like rsync. Reverse isn't true. Just wanted to offer a simpler option. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl0v5MACgkQz62J6PPcoOlZdACfXxFS+7SclI6Il/6fXYOgd6Vl JsYAn2MhB/5x9VH4JvnVwxWsDHi8SF4N =jKWP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 18:12:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60EB106564A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from outgoing01.lava.net (cake.lava.net [IPv6:2001:1888:0:1:230:48ff:fe5b:3b50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596158FC1C for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by outgoing01.lava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17AFD009A; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:12:48 -1000 (HST) Received: by malasada.lava.net (Postfix, from userid 102) id 7A559153882; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:12:48 -1000 (HST) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:12:48 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20090119181247.GA9669@lava.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4974B9A2.4070709@optiksecurite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4974B9A2.4070709@optiksecurite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advice for dump/restore over SSH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:12:55 -0000 On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:34:26PM -0500, FreeBSD wrote: > I'm having difficulties trying to clone a FreeBSD 7.1 PC to another > exact same PC over SSH. > > There is my the things I tried: > > I found that link http://devpit.org/wiki/Dump_and_Restore_over_SSH which > seemed exactly what I wanted. The problem is that FreeSBIE is not > working on this PC (Dell Vostro 220 Slim). It seems to be a problem with > the disk controler (can't mount the / partition). > > So, I decided to install a minimal FreeBSD 7.1 on the PC to be cloned. > I'm trying to dump/restore the /usr partition but I got warnings with > the files already being present and it finally crashed SSHd just after > transfering /usr/lib/libssl.so. After that, there is nothing to do with > the PC, SSHd refuse to restart (segmentation fault). It sounds like you're trying to restore onto the non-empty /usr partition while running programs from that partition. I don't think that is ever likely to work, and I'm not surprised that your sshd crashes and won't restart when you've replaced some-but-not-all of its files. You should restore non-incremental dump backups onto a file system made freshly empty with newfs, which you can do if you bring the system up in single-user mode or boot it from other media like a live CD. This is why the FreeSBIE CD is an essential part of the plan at the link you posted. You will probably have to start again from scratch on the PC you're cloning onto; find some media you can boot it from, or install it to where you can bring it up in single-user and run some listener which is simpler than sshd. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- cliftonr@iandicomputing.com / cliftonr@lava.net President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 18:17:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304D71065673 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E5B8FC18 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay14.apple.com (relay14.apple.com [17.128.113.52]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16794F3F139; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay14.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id B7F8828182; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:17:06 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807134-ac863bb000000ff0-de-4974c3a2c96e Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 86C04280F7; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:17:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <6C9757B2-E4D9-4898-973E-E4C42DCA05B6@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Scott Aitken In-Reply-To: <20090118085337.GA77758@server-01.thismonkey.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:17:06 -0800 References: <20090118085337.GA77758@server-01.thismonkey.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disabling queuewarn DSN when mailhub delivers to specific host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:17:07 -0000 On Jan 18, 2009, at 12:53 AM, Scott Aitken wrote: > If my exchange server is down for whatever reason, after > confTO_QUEUEWARN > expires my mailhub sends the sender a delay DSN. > > Because I consider this mail to have already been accepted into my > network, > and has been delivered locally at least, can I configure sendmail to > NOT send > the DSN? Add: define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', `6d')dnl ...to your sendmail.mc and rebuild sendmail.cf; this will change the DSN warning period to be longer than the (standard) bounce time, so no warning DSNs will be generated until the final bounce. This is not considered to be good practice, as most people would like a warning that the email they tried to send has not been delivered to the intended recipient sooner than that. (Most people seem to want email to resemble IM in terms of speed, so even a delay of a few minutes bothers some....) > Specifically I would like to do this on a per-host basis (ie, turn > it off when delays to the exchange server occur, but not for other > (future) > servers). I don't believe you can configure different timeouts for different destinations short of setting up multiple sendmail installations with different configs. > I would still like delay DSNs sent from other mail Internet servers > to get though to my > local users too. Not a problem, aside from the fact that any DSNs someone else sends are going to be delayed just like all other mail if your Exchange server is down... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 18:18:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3AA106573D for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:18:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cjones.org) Received: from gamera.mt.sri.com (gamera.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180748FC12 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cjones.org) Received: from [206.127.76.114] (myosin.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by gamera.mt.sri.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0JHsNUj027190 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:54:23 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4974BE49.2080508@cjones.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:54:17 -0700 From: Chris Jones User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DUMP: read error: Bad address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:18:42 -0000 Hi folks-- I have an amd64 machine with two drives. I've got my system set up on ad8, and I'm building a RAID0 array using gvinum that will span ad8 and ad10. So for now, I have partitions on ad8 plus a set of volumes on ad10 that I want to move all my data to. Today I was doing a test move of all the data, using dump | restore like this: # dump -0aL -f - /var | ( cd /mnt/var && restore -rf - ) I got about a dozen messages like this: DUMP: read error from /dev/ad8s1d: Bad address: [block 10992192]: count=5120 What is causing this message, and is it a cause for alarm? Here's my bsdlabel for ad8s1: # /dev/ad8s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1048576 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 b: 4123872 1048576 swap c: 488279547 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 104857600 5172448 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 2097152 110030048 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 376152347 112127200 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 Thanks in advance for any help. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 18:26:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A081065673 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891E58FC14 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay10.apple.com (relay10.apple.com [17.128.113.47]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782B84F3FA92 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:26:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay10.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay10.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id 61E1B28110 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:26:27 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 1180712f-ac171bb0000012d3-03-4974c5d3e941 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay10.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 2EE6928104 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:26:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3BC5671C-2780-46B0-BCA2-8F90CE7B82F9@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:26:26 -0800 References: <20090119181918.E70C54D12D74@mail-out3.apple.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: @Scott Aitken, was: disabling queuewarn DSN when mailhub delivers to specific host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:26:27 -0000 Scott, both of the email addresses you mentioned are undeliverable: Begin forwarded message: > From: MAILER-DAEMON@mail-out3.apple.com (Mail Delivery System) > Date: January 19, 2009 10:19:18 AM PST > To: cswiger@mac.com > Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > > This is the mail system at host mail-out3.apple.com. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The mail system > > : host > server-03.thismonkey.com[202.10.7.253] > said: 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying > denied (in > reply to RCPT TO command) > Reporting-MTA: dns; mail-out3.apple.com > X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 004E94D12D0D > X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; cswiger@mac.com > Arrival-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:19:02 -0800 (PST) > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; freebsd-lists-3@thismonkey.com > Original-Recipient: rfc822;freebsd-lists-3@thismonkey.com > Action: failed > Status: 5.7.1 > Remote-MTA: dns; server-03.thismonkey.com > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 ... > Relaying > denied > > From: Chuck Swiger > Date: January 19, 2009 10:19:01 AM PST > To: freebsd-lists-3@thismonkey.com > Subject: Re: disabling queuewarn DSN when mailhub delivers to > specific host > > > You should note that your sending address, , > bounces: > > ------ > > This is the mail system at host mail-out4.apple.com. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The mail system > > : host server-03.thismonkey.com[202.10.7.253] > said: 550 > 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied (in reply to RCPT TO > command) > Reporting-MTA: dns; mail-out4.apple.com > X-Postfix-Queue-ID: D16794F3F139 > X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; cswiger@mac.com > Arrival-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:17:06 -0800 (PST) > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; scott@thismonkey.com > Original-Recipient: rfc822;scott@thismonkey.com > Action: failed > Status: 5.7.1 > Remote-MTA: dns; server-03.thismonkey.com > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying > denied > > From: Chuck Swiger > Date: January 19, 2009 10:17:06 AM PST > To: Scott Aitken > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: disabling queuewarn DSN when mailhub delivers to > specific host > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 18:41:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E271065674 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73FB8FC1E for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LOz3S-0004pf-6q; Mon, 19 Jan 200