Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:26:45 -0600 From: Josh Paetzel <josh@tcbug.org> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: Travis Mikalson <bofh@terranova.net> Subject: Re: Any successful installs on a Broadcom HT1000 chipset? Message-ID: <200711242226.49244.josh@tcbug.org> In-Reply-To: <474477CE.3030805@terranova.net> References: <826454.61528.qm@web63913.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <200711210838.18781.fjwcash@gmail.com> <474477CE.3030805@terranova.net>
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--nextPart2444793.9LFjqCKKDy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 21 November 2007 12:24:14 pm Travis Mikalson wrote: > Freddie Cash wrote: > > On November 21, 2007 04:26 am Barney Cordoba wrote: > >> It would be a major > >> black eye to the project to say "FreeBSD 7 is > >> released, but BTW, if you have a supermicro or tyan > >> opteron system it won't work at all". > > > > The HT1000 is only 1 of the Opteron chipsets available from Tyan, and > > it's only available on their 1 socket boards (the Tomcats). The dual- > > and quad- socket boards either use AMD or AMD+nVidia chipsets (Socket > > 939/940), or nVidia chipsets (Socket AM2). Out of their entire lineup, > > the HT1000 makes up maybe 10% of the chipsets used by Tyan. > > > > I'd hardly call that a "black eye". And it's only the onboard SATA > > controller that has issues. Pop in a proper RAID controller, and it's = no > > longer an issue. > > Hate to sound like a broken record but that's exactly what I did and I > ran into the same nasty data corruption problem on that controller, too. > That was a little frustrating. > > atapci0@pci0:2:3:0: class=3D0x010000 card=3D0x11ab11ab chip=3D0x60811= 1ab > rev=3D0x09 hdr=3D0x00 > vendor =3D 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)' > device =3D 'MV88SX6081 8-port SATA II PCI-X Controller' > class =3D mass storage > subclass =3D SCSI > > I don't want a hardware RAID or a "software RAID" controller, I just > want normal SATA ports with no RAID so I can use ZFS :) > > I find myself much preferring ZFS to any other data management solution > I have ever used, including 3ware hardware RAID which was my previous > favorite. > > Another thing I haven't tried yet is a 3ware 9500 series PCI-X > controller in my HT1000 board's PCI-X slot to see if that's also broken > or if it's just a PCI-X + ata(4) specific problem. > > I'll reply with the result of that when I get to trying it out. > > >> Someone was complaining 2 years ago that they didn't > >> have hardware to do the work. Is the FreeBSD project > >> really so poorly funded that they can't get their > >> hands on a $150 motherboard for 2 years? > > > > Ever considered sending one in? :) > > I am considering it. Are any reputable FreeBSD developers interested in > this problem that could benefit from having the problematic hardware in > their posession? I'm in the middle of retiring nearly a dozen supermicro socket AM2 boards w= ith=20 this chipset. With the SATA controllers in native SATA mode the disks get= =20 scribbled on horribly. With the SATA controllers in legacy mode FreeBSD=20 detects them as ATA/33 but they seem to hold up a bit better. Under heavy= =20 I/O load they will stay up for about a week before panicing, although once= =20 they do panic they double panic and hang solid. I thought I was going dodg= e=20 swapping platforms by installing 3ware 9550 RAID controllers but I all I=20 managed to do was reduce the panic rate to about once per month per box, so= =20 there are gremlins that affect more than the onboard SATA I'm afraid. I've= =20 attempted to work with at least one FreeBSD developer on a fix, but the=20 inability of the boxes to complete a panic, let alone write a crash dump ha= s=20 made troubleshooting them incredibly painful. (Sometimes they don't even=20 manage to get the entire first line of the panic string on the console) Th= e=20 fact that they will stand up for days under heavy I/O load doesn't help=20 either. Intermittant problems suck. =2D-=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5A8C 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB --nextPart2444793.9LFjqCKKDy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHSPmJJvkB8SevrssRAimQAJ0dOkLs0RYQOA5tWMX2nUd3RZcl4wCeLMGa IPLAD5upWp99SsYh5o4BlCc= =ns6o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2444793.9LFjqCKKDy--
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