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Subject: Re: svn commit: r396689 - in head/mail: cyrus-imapd23 cyrus-imapd24
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To: Hajimu UMEMOTO <ume@FreeBSD.org>, marino@freebsd.org
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On 9/12/2015 5:00 PM, Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote:
> Again, it is hard to inspect whether it becomes equivalent to the one
> I intended.  The commit was done, violently.  Isn't it enough reason
> for you?  At least, it seems different from something I intend in
> DOCS.

Matt, an expert, is stating what you had in place was flat-out wrong.
"Hard" is not the same as "impossible", and "hard" is relative (e.g. I
might not find it difficult to understand at all).  So if you have
experts saying it is correct now, and you have proof that it is correct
(assuming poudriere passes) then I think you should NOT back it out, but
study the changes (even if you find it "hard").

The culture is no longer "everything must be approved by maintainer and
he can block it for no good reason".  If something is obviously
incorrect, it can be fixed without maintainer approval (or in this case,
with maintainer objection).

John

P.S. Again I am just a bystander, but I don't like how this topic is
progressing as a bystander.