From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jun 7 19:10:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown2-3-111.adsl.one.net [216.23.16.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9CD37B98C for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:10:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA14249; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:16:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:16:54 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Coleman Kane , Bosko Milekic , void , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kerneld for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000607221654.B14205@cokane.yi.org> References: <20000607013058.A32270@firedrake.org> <20000607014353.A10364@cokane.yi.org> <20000607124949.A25014@mithrandr.moria.org> <20000607084842.C11781@cokane.yi.org> <20000607145120.A26432@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000607145120.A26432@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 08:51:36AM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, I actually wasn't aware of the net and fs stuff at first. It works great though, I was just continuing from what someone else had mentioned, and then it got turned into kerneld for freebsd. I originally simply wanted to see about options sort of like kerneld. I mean, maybe a utility that can load modules and all itself, or at the very least, a mechanism to manage the growing number of modules in the kernel. Anyway, the questions we should ask are: What are the shortcomings of the current kld 'module' system? What type of support would we like to see? Neil Blakey-Milner had the audacity to say: > If you're suggesting more modularity, that's great. You just confused > me by mentioning "kerneld". I'm all for more modules. > > I still had problems with why you wanted a 'kerneld', but rwatson's > suggestions about security, pccardd, usbd, do make sense. I do like the > way the auto-ifconfig and auto-mount stuff works, though. > > At the very least, I'd like a probe-only way to find out what devices > are available, given a bunch of device driver modules. > > Neil > -- > Neil Blakey-Milner > Sunesi Clinical Systems > nbm@mithrandr.moria.org > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message