From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 8 18:23:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF65B37B416 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 18:23:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29927; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 18:23:11 -0800 Message-ID: <3C12CB0E.2050203@owt.com> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 18:23:10 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: telnet to a Win2k-pro machine References: <20011208223542.U29324-100000@big> <04cb01c1804f$2673f5b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C12BCBB.80700@owt.com> <04e401c18050$314ea060$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C12BEEC.6010402@owt.com> <04eb01c18054$217e7b70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kent writes: > > >>Well, NT-3.5x+ has had a POSIX subsystem and you >>can run the POSIX commands from the telnet command >>line. >> > > That's not NT administration, though. If you want something to run POSIX > with telnet, why not just run UNIX? There are a lot of command line program to do sysadmin stuff from the command line. Find out where they are called is a different matter. Now you can use XP and use the remote admin capability. I can't imagine using it either but if you add the MKS toolkit, you have pretty close to a real POSIX system. I have several computers running full time. One is a W2K Server and the other two run only FreeBSD. It is too easy to use one of the system running the proper OS for the task than it is to make task run on the wrong OS. > > >>For an editor, I use vi even on W2K. >> > > I use Notepad on Windows. For FreeBSD, currently I use joe most of the > time. vi has a steep learning curve for the simple editing I usually have > to do. I had to learn vi when we had a Cray X/MP scheduled to be delivered in 1988. I was to fly to Minneapolis to benchmark what was to be our system and there weren't a lot of choices for editors. Cray thought that just using vi was abusing their system. The only other choices were as bad as using "ed" on a DOS system. Once you get comfortable with something like an editor, it takes a lot to get you to switch. There was "Elvis" and it was available on everything I used. Most of the cursor keys work now even in input mode. There are only about 6 commands that you need to know to get started. Notepad won't do regular expressions. Doing a proper cross line cut and paste is hard from vi. I also use notepad when it will be the easiest. > > >>You can also setup your W2K machine to accept >>lpr from a Unix system. I can't imagine adding >>samba to a fine Unix machine just to share a printer. >> > > You could attach an A/B switch to the printer. When that happens, I am usually on a different floor. They are networked together anyway. If you turn your W2K machine into a lpr server, you don't have to do anything. It just works automagically. I have seen the electronic A/B switches and all they are is a bandaid solution. Sooner or later, you lose a print job because of contention. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message