From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 27 15:48:54 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5D8336131 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 15:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd33.google.com (mail-io1-xd33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49XFcQ09pLz4b6s for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 15:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd33.google.com with SMTP id h10so26480382iob.10 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 08:48:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=cQeUbaw99QBZcNTBdtHx0TdTqEGzNeNV13uzKJtfS0E=; b=ECo5au77FxUgzu/nppYRs1uozGPpJbymMBGje6easQR1yYyaoWBvOQIVAKFH6Bsnu8 ztziTpcgox2w6Qf2m0mgsP1Pbu8QDIYNUxjYObUQqaEMyZQjQO0uFWQ/YVc1tlzjThbo bPk+icWXf5WYTqL/v3uXZWRCF+/kJbPDJc1VRoCgW85qLnvQCJ/q/I3emhno0dvr1AQb ln7xVP1ISKdATrMFTWgtlmwTzciMu3HRRFG32DmObsPtp/eMToI8p4avTJGk8Wt4j2XZ 0zBQjfH0ug8fbHd9EQNn59YqT2b2tpMvsAeLFkcXGcm3mWxrPjDJ9Jaw4mCtaDlp0lm9 EJqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cQeUbaw99QBZcNTBdtHx0TdTqEGzNeNV13uzKJtfS0E=; b=TXgAredm15WVQHWIBQ2lEqWD1bWKRIkUJq7G5VVFQyAVVvx5xiiP1297owBi7YLDuQ pLJJPAqur65GF2iHCeFClXdqog201lsB8J98VQgXYoCW4putaF1ApNt2vQUr+hISliRl 5XQ5ji3PCcFtjN3s0s0KAwYo3ug1MMA1ILZyTqMrQ5cvdw8K1kd3yF8OJEDCw9zDn1gY uVuWa1idYDaeSWD3mWWxEOzDEAE5Um9JJzRdpEmh2DK3MgWAUNBNwm51hU/fONxcncCO cAzPB2jGX52lyM8IKH6zCabNjqhj28JCYyg1zqXzd8S3swsj4euR/OII//ejMBUS1VHo b4GQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5339b+DiCg2JOery1wJjZnNRhsrNV7Z16EwXKbBgs8GBwYCndacG 0TG8cwGZKJOve7QlvYuqcniL7Fy3K+Z9ujcq1jQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwuZ8lgH4BBR4GxuH03jQc8FsQEf0NZMHlkJARzyYnK+ag9oahDxxWS/0WOkrF+7IInCNiKLo2x5Uckn00CRGc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:2815:: with SMTP id d21mr13561645ioe.174.1590594531386; Wed, 27 May 2020 08:48:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200527141409.5469f1a3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 11:48:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Cert To: Brandon helsley Cc: Ottavio Caruso , Polytropon , Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49XFcQ09pLz4b6s X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ECo5au77; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.60 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.59)[-0.590]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.01)[-1.014]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.997]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[yahoo.com,edvax.de,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 15:48:55 -0000 On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 11:36 AM Brandon helsley < brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> wrote: > How much experience is necessarry? > I don't know anything about computers but got freebsd as a project to > learn as much as possible. If I were to get involved does "teaching the > ropes" at all possibly include learning other things like networking and > possibly and hopefully learning how to port software? > A lot of times (but by far from all the time) porting requires at least basic programming skills since you often need to find parts of the code that are incompatible with FreeBSD and make them compatible (you then include a patch for the work in the port files). > > > Sent from Outlook Mobile > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Aryeh Friedman > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2020 8:33:10 AM > *To:* Brandon helsley > *Cc:* Ottavio Caruso ; Polytropon < > freebsd@edvax.de>; Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > *Subject:* Re: FreeBSD Cert > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 8:39 AM Brandon helsley < > brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> wrote: > > What about port maintainership. Or port mentee? What Is it exactly. Good > learning experience? > > > Yes/no/maybe is it worth and is it a good learning experience. > > A port maintainer as Mathew said is resonible for keeping a port in good > working order visa vie FreeBSD. A good example is when I took over > maintainership of devel/aegis it was to update to the latest released > version (the original author passed away in 2014 and no one has picked up > the ball to make new versions since despite a small group of hardcore users > [including my self]) and all was good then when FreeBSD started to phase > out the preference for GCC I had to make some patches to make it work with > LLVM, etc. > > Taking over a dead port is likely not as good of an learning experience as > making and maintaining a new one. Contact me privately I have some ideas > for stuff that can and should be ports that I haven't had time for (mostly > side projects relating to PetiteCloud that I can maintain via aegis but not > via ports due to not making the translation scripts completely yet) > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org