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Date:      Wed, 09 Feb 2000 20:17:14 -0800
From:      R Joseph Wright <rjoseph@nwlink.com>
To:        Scott Hess <scott@avantgo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: softupdates and async
Message-ID:  <38A23BCA.1EA0A04D@nwlink.com>
References:  <38A2103E.815B0C4C@nwlink.com> <0bdb01bf7365$2c465080$1e80000a@avantgo.com> <38A216C9.5A2E6719@nwlink.com> <0c4901bf7374$a248bde0$1e80000a@avantgo.com>

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Scott Hess wrote:
> 
> "R Joseph Wright" <rjoseph@nwlink.com> wrote:
> > Scott Hess wrote:
> > > "R Joseph Wright" <rjoseph@nwlink.com> wrote:
> > > > Is it okay to have both on the same filesystem?
> > >
> > > No, you cannot run both on the same filesystem.  [Aside: what would be
> the
> > > point?  async+softupdates==async.]
> >
> > So softupdates does the same thing as async?
> 
> No.  async allows the system to rearrange writes completely arbitrarily.
> softupdates allows the system to rearrange writes such that they still go
> out in the correct order.  So async can be slightly faster, but softupdates
> is much safer.
> 
> > I have 100MB /, 40MB /var, 256MB swap, and the rest is /usr.  Is
> > softupdates generally only done for /usr?
> 
> Basically any filesystem that has write activity.  Keeping in mind that
> atime updates happen when you merely look at files (though in that case I'd
> just mount with the noatime option in fstab).  If you had seperate
> filesystems for /usr and /usr/home, I'd just set softupdates on /usr/home,
> and mount /usr noatime.  But with just /usr, I'd go with softupdates.
> 
> _Lots_ of write happen to /var, so it's probably worth enabling there.
> 
> I'd probably arrange for /tmp to be a link to /var/tmp, rather than worry
> about enabling softupdates on /.  I've been bitten too many times by
> programs (like sort) wanting to dump huge files on /tmp.

Mine is a link to /usr/tmp because my /usr filesystem is 15 GB whereas
my /var is 40MB.  Next time I'll make /var bigger or make it a link to
/usr/var as I've heard others do.

> 
> Later,
> scott

-- 
R Joseph Wright 

*I merely took the energy it takes to pout
and wrote some blues --Duke Ellington*


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