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Date:      Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:25:32 -0400
From:      "Martin Mactaggart" <martinm@visualedge.com>
To:        <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: remembering last keystrokes + net q
Message-ID:  <006001bf157e$6ec7be70$a600a8c0@visualedge.com>

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Personally, I've used redhat & openlinux (gee, simple to install, no c
compiler by default, and it crashes a lot... Just like Windows, neat, =
ummm,
yeah) and kind of like FreeBSD better... Just a personal thing... I find
you're more likely to be forced to recompile the kernel, but that doing =
it
is a much easier / more reliable process for someone somewhat unix
illiterate like me...

    As for X, you have tried doing a post install configure using
/stand/sysinstall's X config thing (in the post-install configuration)
n'est-ce-pas?  The hardest part, in my experience, is finding a refresh
rate/colour depth/resolution combo that both your monitor and your =
graphics
card like at the same time...  Make sure you have your monitor's
specifications in hand (H & V refresh rates) and whatever you do, don't
choose 24bit colour; go with 32bit or 16bit... Something about the way X
allocates colours makes apps think they have 32bit and then panic when =
they
realize they don't (I think (usually reverting to monochrome)).

    It'd help to know what the error msg you get when it crashes is... =
You
might also want to look at .xclients and .xsession in your ~ ($HOME)
directory; make sure they look something like the following:

gnome-session &
exec your_window_manager

    I think the "gnome session &" part might be optional.

    You might also try asking freebsd-questions instead of newbies, =
you'll
get an answer who's likelyhood of being right is much greater, but be =
sure
to include your error msg and keep it short and to the point (well, =
that's
my experience anyway).

    BTW, I've always found X much nicer when you install ttf support (12
butt ugly fonts is not my idea of pretty), you probably already know =
this,
but if you install xfsftt from your CD (I don't think it's on CD #1 =
though),
modify the font paths in your XF86Config file to include (at the end of =
the
list) "unix:/7100" (or was that "unix/:7100"?) and then create the file
rc.local in your /etc dir with 'echo "starting true type font server \n" =
;
xfstt &' in it, you can use ttf fonts like the rest of the not-unix =
world.

----- Original Message -----
From: Greg W <redhat_list@hotmail.com>
To: <martinm@visualedge.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: remembering last keystrokes + net q


Thanks , was exactly as I was after, I am used to bash as default, gotta =
see
if I can get used to the BSD thing (used to RH)
was a pain retyping commands whilst building first kernel :-)

I cant get X to run properly either, any tips there ? it fires up but =
dies
cause there is no gnome-session ???

I am not sure here as have not played with X a lot, as have always had
running from default installs .....


>From: "Martin Mactaggart" <martinm@visualedge.com>
>To: "Greg W" <redhat_list@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: remembering last keystrokes + net q
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:03:20 -0400
>
>     use the command "chsh" (which will invoke "vi" on your profile =
file,
>type "man vi" if you don't know how to use vi) to change your shell to
>"bash" or maybe "tcsh"...  It's not FreeBSD that is/sin't remembering =
your
>keystrokes but rather it is your shell interpreter which manages said
>behaviour...
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Greg W <redhat_list@hotmail.com>
>To: <FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:15 AM
>Subject: remembering last keystrokes + net q
>
>
>Hi all
>
>Not sure if its the keyboard setup or if I need to edit a file, but how =
do
>I
>get FreeBSD to remember the x number of last commands typed so I can =
scroll
>through them ?
>
>I have a few network questions to follow, but I want to get X working =
first
>to see what tools are there
>
>I know ifconfig is for adding net routes etc, not sure where I specify
>gateways, nameservers  etc , i take it there is a graphical tool or =
menu
>driven one
>
>Thanks all
>
>Greg
>
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